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L10[01:25:31] <stephan48> i liked the previous X games because they gave you a bit of a mission focussed start - beginning with X3 and ongoing you where basically thrown into the void and had to figure out how to go from there
L11[01:26:51] <stephan48> if you never played an X game before or are not used to the features, this made it a bit too sandboxy in my opinion
L12[01:26:55] <Amanda> yeah, I think I originally played like 3-6h of X4 before some random youtube video I watched taught me about the way you get into the main plot
L13[01:27:18] <Amanda> like, you have to enter a specific mode, and skima round the station
L14[01:27:26] <stephan48> yea i gave up after maybe half an hour on my first attempt because i did not figure out much
L15[01:27:45] <stephan48> yea find a specific signal - granted its not easy to miss it... unless you don't know its there
L16[01:28:17] <Amanda> I wouldn't have even considered scanning around the stations before the video pointed it out
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L18[01:28:44] <stephan48> hrm. i think i got that as a leftover knowledge from one of the X3 standalones
L19[01:28:49] <Amanda> "Scanning mode? Oh, so like to determine what an asteroid has in it, right!"
L20[01:29:00] <stephan48> then on my second start i managed to permanently brick the elevators in the first station you land on :D
L21[01:29:12] <Amanda> ... how?
L22[01:29:15] <stephan48> okey it was just after release... but...
L23[01:29:43] <luna​r_sam> is this ace combat https://tinyurl.com/y3lnzres
L24[01:29:45] <stephan48> i think i broke the state machine somehow, bad ordering of actions, getting them into a specific state? i don't know
L25[01:29:48] <Amanda> They've done a lot of changes since, in 4.0 they made the signals more obvious than a tiny little spark every 30s
L26[01:30:05] <stephan48> but suddently they where all stuck in their positions, inaccessible and i could not get across
L27[01:30:19] <stephan48> i think i had to start a new game... don't remember right now
L28[01:30:34] <Amanda> Wait, proper elevators? I don'-- oh! In the station docking area?
L29[01:30:44] <Amanda> Near the trade shop?
L30[01:30:46] <stephan48> yea
L31[01:30:57] <Amanda> I vaguely recall breaking them as well, but a save reload fixed it
L32[01:30:57] <stephan48> you land in the dock, then have to cross to the other side via the elevators+walkways
L33[01:31:00] <stephan48> huh
L34[01:31:05] <stephan48> i am sure i tried that :D
L35[01:31:09] <stephan48> for a couple patches even
L36[01:31:21] <Amanda> Maybe I broke them in a different way
L37[01:31:31] <stephan48> they are fancy
L38[01:31:51] <Amanda> I think what happen was I logged out in the elevator, then was stuck in the shaft after loading back in, going back in a second time and the elevator happen to be on the floor I was on
L39[01:31:53] <stephan48> should have stuck with simple metal boxes... these future people
L40[01:32:13] <stephan48> mh. i don't remember but yea sounds right.
L41[01:32:17] <Amanda> or maybe I dreamed this
L42[01:32:22] <stephan48> i think i gliched out of them somehow and died
L43[01:32:31] <stephan48> and then was back on top
L44[01:32:59] <stephan48> i actually need to see where i am currently in the story, have not played in a long time
L45[01:34:29] <stephan48> oh. haha it might have gone like i usually play X games, write a couple scripts get lots of money and ships... break the station building thing by making mega complex stations with strange geometry, try to make it self sufficient without cheating in wares and spawn thousands of ships in xenon sectors to take them over?
L46[01:35:00] <stephan48> once i managed to make a station in X3 which slowly destroyed itself due to colliding with itself :D
L47[01:35:30] <stephan48> and since this does not count as an attack nor really shows this anywhere i was mega confused for a long time why
L48[01:37:45] <stephan48> but now bed time... have a fun rest of the day/evening/bla :)
L49[01:38:45] <Va​ur> %tonk
L50[01:38:47] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 5 minutes and 11 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L51[01:38:48] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 2 hours, 5 minutes and 11 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00209 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.01965 more points to pass Ko​dos!
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L53[02:00:21] <Va​ur> %sip
L54[02:00:22] <MichiBot> You drink a ripe unobtanium potion (New!). Vaur is suddenly more aware of cute things nearby for 18 seconds.
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L60[04:20:26] <DaCompu​terNerd> %sip
L61[04:20:27] <MichiBot> You drink a diluted gold potion (New!). A bard starts playing a lute behind DaComputerNerd until they exit the room.
L62[04:45:44] * Amanda teaches Elfi The Secret Meows to get into the pocket dimension she stores her lämps in
L63[04:46:16] <Amanda> They must be performed outside Inari's bedroom window at 0300
L64[04:46:31] * Amanda snuggles up around Elfi, zzzmews
L65[04:46:34] <Amanda> Night nerds
L66[05:02:34] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L67[05:02:36] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 5 minutes and 11 seconds (By 1 hour, 18 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L68[05:02:37] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.03342, Position #3 Need 0.01265 more points to pass Ko​dos!
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L78[07:58:20] <Ko​dos> One of my buildings tenants just asked if I wanted some ivermectin for my Covid. Send help
L79[07:58:36] <Ko​dos> I’m surrounded by morons
L80[07:58:49] <Mic​hiyo> big oof
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L87[08:29:22] <Ko​dos> %tonk
L88[08:29:24] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! Ko​dos! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 26 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L89[08:29:25] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record is 3 hours, 26 minutes and 48 seconds! Kodos also gained 0.00345 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.00109 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L95[09:48:19] <Forec​aster> %sip
L96[09:48:20] <MichiBot> You drink a powdery black potion (New!). Forecaster's clothes turn gold until they find a lamp.
L97[09:48:43] <Forec​aster> Heavy clothes D:
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L104[12:36:45] <Va​ur> %tonk
L105[12:36:46] <MichiBot> Holy tiny packet of rubber bands Batman! Va​ur! You beat Ko​dos's previous record of 3 hours, 26 minutes and 48 seconds (By 40 minutes and 34 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L106[12:36:47] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 7 minutes and 22 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00272 (0.00068 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.01338 more points to pass Ko​dos!
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L109[12:39:26] <TPG24> internet would you mind not doing that please kthxbye
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L111[13:24:00] <Va​ur> %sip
L112[13:24:02] <MichiBot> You drink a goopy cyan potion (New!). Vaur's favourite hair suddenly disintegrates.
L113[13:51:49] <Forec​aster> %sip
L114[13:51:50] <MichiBot> You drink an eroded tuna potion (New!). The potion bottle insults Forecaster's haircut.
L115[13:52:08] <Forec​aster> D:<
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L121[15:11:08] <ben_mkiv|afk> Michiyo, you may want to revisit the project settings on curseforge, as they added a new license thing which by default allows redistribution of mods on other sites
L122[15:11:46] <ben_mkiv|afk> for my mods i've disabled that
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L124[15:18:49] <Amanda> TPG24: Internet does what it wants!
L125[15:36:13] <Ocawes​ome101> @Kodos congratulations you probably have Omicron
L126[15:36:36] <Ocawes​ome101> @ThePiGuy24 try having your internet literally freeze for four days
L127[15:37:04] <Ocawes​ome101> They had to wait to replace a cable because it was so cold
L128[15:41:48] <Izaya> oh, that's what you meant by freeze
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L133[17:04:13] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L134[17:04:30] <Vaur> %ping
L135[17:04:40] <MichiBot> Darn! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 7 minutes and 22 seconds (By 20 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L136[17:04:40] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.04614, Position #3 Need 0.00338 more points to pass Ko​dos!
L137[17:04:41] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Va​ur 10.39s
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L139[17:08:18] <Amanda> goddesses, that's dark. "If you bring any creatures on board, please make sure they're chained properly, any loose animals will be vaporized on sight."
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L144[17:36:43] <Va​ur> %sip
L145[17:36:45] <MichiBot> You drink a dusty radiation potion (New!). The bottle splits into two revealing a smaller Salty Rød potion.
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L148[17:44:58] <Elfi> It's undergoing fission D: RUN
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L150[17:50:51] <luna​r_sam> so
L151[17:50:55] <luna​r_sam> i'm playing FtD again
L152[17:51:04] <luna​r_sam> time to make absurd amounts of submarines
L153[17:53:22] <Forec​aster> https://i.imgur.com/tW9L5te.mp4
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L155[18:19:27] <bomba> <3
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L158[18:25:50] <Amanda> %remindme 15m deploy vangard to second contact 2 flashpoint to buy antimatter cells
L159[18:25:51] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "deploy vangard to second contact 2 flashpoint to buy antimatter cells" in 15m at 01/08/2022 06:40:50 PM
L160[18:40:51] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: deploy vangard to second contact 2 flashpoint to buy antimatter cells
L161[19:11:48] <Forec​aster> %sip
L162[19:11:50] <MichiBot> You drink a shiny purple potion (New!). The bottle turns into an apple.
L163[19:17:05] <Ko​dos> %tonk
L164[19:17:05] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Ko​dos! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 12 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L165[19:17:06] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record is 2 hours, 12 minutes and 51 seconds! Kodos also gained 0.00221 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2 => #1. (Overtook Forecaster)
L166[19:25:23] <Amanda> uhhhhh
L167[19:25:43] <Amanda> The pioneers want me to place a malware package on the HQ you get from the main quest?
L168[19:33:57] <Amanda> ah. Boso's got it under control, got it
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L171[19:45:08] <Amanda> ... What happen to my scout ship...
L172[19:59:26] <Amanda> Inari: gimme 15M credits, I want to buy myself my own builder ship instead of renting one
L173[20:00:12] <Inari> Amanda: do I look like I have money
L174[20:00:39] <Amanda> Inari: Rude, I guess I'll just have to save up the 8M more I need
L175[20:00:51] <Inari> I never got too far on trying X4
L176[20:04:36] <Forec​aster> I uh... Borrowed one from an enemy eventually
L177[20:05:12] <Forec​aster> I came across one that was traveling thorough friendly space for some reason
L178[20:06:50] <Amanda> heh
L179[20:07:51] <Amanda> Let's go scan some ally's stations and see if we can reverse engineer their production
L180[20:37:45] <Amanda> %choose look for more production parts or head back
L181[20:37:46] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: "head back", now with 30% fewer deaths caused by negligence!
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L183[21:12:01] <Ko​dos> X4 looks super fun, and I briefly tried it once, but I struggled with the controls for EVA as well as justifying the money I spent on it, and eventually refunded it. Looks like a fun af game though
L184[21:14:39] <Amanda> The EVA is hard because it doesn't do the same space jelly stuff that ships so, so it can be easy to fling yourself away
L185[21:18:25] <Ko​dos> Indeed
L186[21:18:31] <Ko​dos> I just found it clunky
L187[21:31:51] <Ko​dos> %tonkout
L188[21:31:51] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Ko​dos! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 12 minutes and 51 seconds (By 1 minute and 54 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L189[21:31:58] <MichiBot> Ko​dos has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.05573, Position #1
L190[22:06:34] <Forec​aster> Fortunately you don't need to Eva a lot
L191[22:07:03] <Forec​aster> There's a technology you can get eventually that lets you teleport between ships
L192[22:07:17] <Ko​dos> Oh, cool
L193[22:07:23] <Ko​dos> I just wanted a huge mining/industrial corporation tbh
L194[22:07:36] <Ko​dos> I essentially wanted to be a hoarding switzerland
L195[22:07:43] <Ko​dos> (Neutral/allied to everyone, no enemies if I can)
L196[22:08:01] <Forec​aster> That takes a long time to set up :P
L197[22:08:12] <Ko​dos> I mean, I'm disabled and home 99% of the time, so
L198[22:08:16] <Ko​dos> Time isn't really a constraint
L199[22:08:37] <Ko​dos> Not to mention I'm currently dealing with a shattered lateral malleolus and a 2nd degree burn on my other leg
L200[22:08:42] <Forec​aster> And technically you can't have no enemies because there's this one faction that's just hostile to everyone
L201[22:08:52] <Forec​aster> I think
L202[22:08:58] <Ko​dos> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L203[22:09:05] <Ko​dos> Any game I play, especially space games, I just like to mine
L204[22:09:25] <Forec​aster> It's been a while since I played it and there's been a couple of expansions since
L205[22:09:27] <Ko​dos> Mine, hoard resources/money, get better mining gear/ship, repeat
L206[22:09:39] <Ko​dos> Until I'm the guy everyone comes to
L207[22:09:42] <Ko​dos> It's what I did in EVE
L208[22:09:46] <Ko​dos> Until my corp died
L209[22:09:58] <Forec​aster> They mostly bug the other factions unless you go into their sectors though
L210[22:10:02] <Ko​dos> Well, it died because we got forcefully evicted from our C3
L211[22:10:13] <Ko​dos> And I was the primary moon miner
L212[22:10:30] <Forec​aster> I mostly mined in Eve too
L213[22:10:34] <Ko​dos> I just lost interest after the Trig shit started
L214[22:10:40] <Forec​aster> I wasn't in corp though
L215[22:10:45] <Ko​dos> I dealt with CODE enough, I didn't want to deal with NPC bullshit too
L216[22:11:35] <Forec​aster> I wish I had help mining in Elite :P
L217[22:13:21] <Ko​dos> I want to get back into core mining, but I'm holding out hope for either an Abrasion Blaster fighter, or the Panther Clipper
L218[22:13:30] <Ko​dos> Because I want to do it in my T9
L219[22:13:53] <Ko​dos> Imagine an NPC doing all the weaving around popping rock blisters
L220[22:13:58] <Ko​dos> And just having to sit there and collect
L221[22:14:11] <Ko​dos> Or even better, a friend doing the fighter bits
L222[22:14:44] <Ko​dos> I also wish you could dock a fighter without it auto-transferring you to the cockpit, maybe you just want to restock ammo or repair
L223[22:14:55] <Ko​dos> Or even some proximity based system to do it with
L224[22:15:38] <Forec​aster> I do core mining
L225[22:15:40] <Ko​dos> TBH I miss Elite, but the main setback I have is that I hate Engineering with a passion, and it's pretty much required to play effectively now
L226[22:16:01] <Forec​aster> Play effectively?
L227[22:16:05] <Kristo​pher38> Rngneering
L228[22:16:08] <Ko​dos> For combat at the very least
L229[22:16:17] <Ko​dos> I'd argue exploration too
L230[22:16:21] <Kristo​pher38> @Forecaster you know, the usual minmaxing stuff
L231[22:16:25] <Forec​aster> Against players maybe, but I don't do that anyway
L232[22:16:35] <Ko​dos> Even NPCs, they're engineered too
L233[22:16:42] <Forec​aster> I do engineering when I feel like it
L234[22:16:50] <Forec​aster> I've been doing fine
L235[22:17:13] <Kristo​pher38> I've been minmaxing for a long time too
L236[22:17:55] <Kristo​pher38> Then I discovered that this doesn't bring that much fun compared to just sitting back and going at a relaxed pace
L237[22:17:58] <Forec​aster> If you want to help me mine I'd love that, I use a Python currently, but if you want to haul I can use a smaller ship
L238[22:18:39] <Forec​aster> I never minmax or follow metas or anything, I just do what I feel like you have fun
L239[22:18:48] <Forec​aster> I never minmax or follow metas or anything, I just do what I feel like to have fun [Edited]
L240[22:19:24] <Kristo​pher38> My point is, you don't have to absolutely engineer by any means
L241[22:19:38] <Kristo​pher38> I just engineered my fsd and that's about it
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L243[22:20:48] <Forec​aster> I have a couple of ships with an engineered FSD but I don't really need that anymore because FC
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L246[22:24:08] <SteelWoolDX> j
L247[22:24:59] <Forec​aster> p
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L249[22:27:53] <Forec​aster> I used to use a T9 for mining but it was too clumsy
L250[22:28:52] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L251[22:28:52] <MichiBot> Boom! Forec​aster! You beat Ko​dos's previous record of <0 (By 57 minutes and 1 second)! I hope you're happy!
L252[22:28:53] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 57 minutes and 1 second! Forecaster also gained 0.00095 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.00417 more points to pass Ko​dos!
L253[22:44:00] <Amanda> Damn, I should really trim out the XEN, they killed my miner
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L259[23:11:20] * Amanda sends Inari to go mining in XEN space for her
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L265[23:29:26] <Ko​dos> %tonk
L266[23:29:27] <MichiBot> Shoot! Ko​dos! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 57 minutes and 1 second (By 3 minutes and 33 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L267[23:29:28] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record is 1 hour and 34 seconds! Kodos also gained 0.00006 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L268[23:50:16] <Va​ur> %sip
L269[23:50:17] <MichiBot> You drink a shimmering cerulium potion (New!). Vaur looks up and sees the moon smile at them for a second.
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