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<Vaur>
>Amanda: starfield is the game that... activision? posted a like
2-min cinematic…
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<Vaur>
bethesda ...
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<Vaur> the
... isn't me being upset at you not remembering who is making it
but rather at bethesda being bethetic ...
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<Michiyo>
lol
L6[00:09:46] <Amanda> My first instinct was
bioshock, but then Ir emembered they were absorbed into the EA,
there's no way people would be that excited about something so
vague coming from EA
L7[00:10:03] <Amanda> ( This is where
someone points out that bethesda is also absorbed )
L8[00:10:10] <Amanda> (( Knowing my luck
)
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<Vaur> they
haven't been
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<Vaur>
zenimax still control bethesda
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<Michiyo>
And Microsoft owns Zenimax
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<Michiyo>
So... good times there lol
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<Vaur> >
On September 21, 2020, Microsoft announced they entered into an
agreement to acquire ZeniMax Media and all its subsidiaries for
$7.5 billion.
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<Vaur> damn
... Amanda called it
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<Vaur> I
totally missed that bit of news
L16[00:12:34] <Amanda> MS is bad, but
nowhere as bad as EA
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<Michiyo>
`Microsoft has finalized its $7.5 billion deal to acquire ZeniMax
Media, the parent company of Doom and Fallout studio Bethesda
Softworks.Mar 9, 2021`
L18[00:12:46] <Amanda> rather, b ad in
entirely different ways
L19[00:12:59] <Amanda> like how getting
punched in the tits is different than getting punched in
the---
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<Vaur>
microsoft is bad with its established monopoly and strong-arming
users on windows, but that's another can of worms
L21[00:14:42] <Amanda> Hasn't EA been voted
worst company like 10+ years in a row
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<Michiyo>
MS's games are good though
L23[00:15:02] <Amanda> IT's like their
execs take pride in bring total pieces of shit
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<Michiyo>
EA Has been voted Worst * 10+ years in a row
L25[00:15:39]
<Vaur> So
... I need an opinion
L26[00:15:51] <Amanda> Socks are better
than no-socks
L27[00:15:55]
<Michiyo>
Black goes with everything
L28[00:15:59] <Izaya> cofe > tea
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<Michiyo>
Wait, that's a fact
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<Michiyo>
damn
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<Michiyo>
In my opinion, that is Minecraft.
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<Michiyo>
Wait no! I did it again
L34[00:16:54] <Amanda> probably better than
I could do
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<Michiyo>
Nah, it looks good
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<Vaur> the
black block indented at mid range of the wall will be a screen to
select destination of the teleporter
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<BrisingrAerowing> That room is a
5/7.
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<Vaur> any
suggestion to increase this mark ? 😄
L39[00:19:43]
<BrisingrAerowing> That's a joke from
Imgur / Reddit.
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<Vaur>
ah
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<BrisingrAerowing> It's used as a perfect
score.
L42[00:19:57]
<Vaur> that
completly woosh by me
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<BrisingrAerowing> I have no idea of the
origins.
L44[00:20:39] <Amanda> Ken something
L45[00:20:57] <Amanda> (I assume)
shitposter from facebook, got screenshott'd and shared around
L47[00:21:34] <Amanda> ah
L48[00:21:37] <Amanda> guess not
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<Kodos>
%tonk
L51[00:25:07] <MichiBot> Yippee! Kodos!
You beat Ocawesome101's previous record of 4 hours, 12 minutes and
57 seconds (By 9 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L52[00:25:08] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record
is 4 hours, 22 minutes and 48 seconds! Kodos also gained 0.0008
(0.00016 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L53[00:30:43] <Amanda> %choose mars or
halucinate or irradiate
L54[00:30:44] <MichiBot> Amanda: My
grandfather always told me that "halucinate" is the way
to go!
L55[00:37:33]
<Kristopher38> @Vaur a bit claustrophobic
for my taste; you could make the ceiling one block higher
L56[00:38:25]
<Vaur> I
could though it's kind of meant to be at this point since this is
the lowest room inside the spherical part of my base
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<Vaur>
ignoring maintance floors I'll be increasing the height in other
room
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<Vaur> I
... crashed, rip
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<Vaur> but
it didn't turn out right
L66[01:44:05] <MichiBot> Izaya: Ariri will
be notified of this message when next seen.
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<Vaur>
found another block I want to try ... but its a very grindy one
😄
L68[01:53:18] <lunar_sam> awoo
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<Vaur> I
know what I really want ... but it's not in this version of
minecraft 😄
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L76[02:32:46] <Amanda> So tell me what you
want, what you really-really want
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<Vaur>
>Amanda: So tell me what you want, what you really-really
want
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<Vaur>
oxidised copper
L81[02:57:29] <Amanda> Excuse me, I need to
continue digging my grave, as I'm old
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<Michiyo>
>Amanda: So tell me what you want, what you really-really
want
L83[03:03:40]
<Michiyo>
I'll tell you what i want what i really really want
L84[03:04:03] <Amanda> See, she gets
it!
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L86[03:04:52] *
Amanda flops down around elfi, meows to her about her
ziggy-ziggy-ah
L87[03:05:37] <Amanda> Sleeps time, night
beds nerds
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<Vaur>
>Amanda: Excuse me, I need to continue digging my grave, as I'm
old
L92[03:43:14]
<Vaur> I'm
french, cultural reference may not land as I did not experience
them like you did 😉
L93[03:53:12] <Izaya> Vaur: Immersive
Engineering copper blocks are green
L94[04:06:33]
<Vaur> I
know they are, but it's not the right kind
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<Kodos>
%tonkout
L99[05:53:42] <MichiBot> Kapow! Kodos! You
beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 22 minutes and 48 seconds
(By 1 hour, 5 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L100[05:53:43] <MichiBot> Kodos has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points!
plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.04295, Position #1
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<Kodos>
Cursed involuntary naps
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<Forecaster> %tonk
L112[08:52:12] <MichiBot> Kapow!
Forecaster! You beat Kodos's previous record of <0 (By 2
hours, 58 minutes and 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L113[08:52:13] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 2 hours, 58 minutes and 30 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00298 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need
0.01851 more points to pass Kodos!
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<Wattana>
well maybe using ASM in combination with C is better for making an
os
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zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
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<Kristopher38> Yeah, you should probably
get cc65 or whatever it was called
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<Wattana>
`error: target not found: cc65`
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<Wattana>
the fuck is it not in Arch's repo
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<Wattana>
why is it in aur instead 🤔
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<Wattana>
there's no prebuilt release and now im compiling 😭
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<Wattana>
hope it's not as bad as compiling gzdoom. that shit took at least
20 minutes
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<Wattana>
thank god it only took a few minutes
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<Kristopher38> Last time multimc took
something like half an hour to compile on my laptop
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<Wattana>
@Kristopher38 mind helping me set up ld65 for Thistle?
L133[11:56:37]
<Kristopher38> I've never used cc65
lol
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<Forecaster> %tonkout
L136[12:20:41] <MichiBot> Dogast!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 58
minutes and 30 seconds (By 29 minutes and 58 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L137[12:20:42] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points!
plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
0.03144, Position #2 Need 0.01151 more points to pass Kodos!
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L139[13:56:24] <Amanda> %choose mars or
humans
L140[13:56:24] <MichiBot> Amanda: I saw
that "mars" is the best choice in a vision
L141[13:57:15]
<Forecaster> colonising mars is probably a
better idea than colonising humans
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<Vaur>
%tonk
L143[14:00:42] <MichiBot> Yippee! Vaur!
You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour and 40
minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L144[14:00:43] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 1 hour and 40 minutes! Vaur also gained 0.00167 tonk
points for stealing the tonk. Position #4 => #3. (Overtook
Michiyo) Need 0.01211 more points to pass Forecaster!
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<Wattana>
Progress: Hello world Thistle in C. Took hours only to found out
the author of Thistle wrote the config files for Thistle for
compiling C programs then a few minute to write the program + print
function
https://tinyurl.com/y2kpswp2
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<Kristopher38> nice
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<Z0idberg>
@Wattana Wha
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<Z0idberg>
thistle?
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<Z0idberg>
Is Thistle your C compiler written in Lua?
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<Kristopher38> @Z0idberg thistle is 6502
arch for OC
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<Z0idberg>
OHHH
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<Z0idberg>
it must be a replacement for OCSymon then>
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<Z0idberg>
@Wattana WHY are you using C on a 6502 arch?
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<Z0idberg>
It's so incredibly inefficient
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<Z0idberg>
Cool proof of concept though
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<Wattana>
pure ASM is too hard for me
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<Wattana> I
could mix in ASM codes tho
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<Z0idberg>
6502 assembly is among the easiest assembly syntaxes that
exist
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<Z0idberg>
it's a lot easier than ARM thumb 16 that's for sure
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<Z0idberg>
or x86
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<Wattana>
mfw idk how to send arguments to subroutines
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<Z0idberg>
My opinion I guess is that if C is requested on the table and you
want a small arch, perhaps someone whould make a motorola 6800 arch
for OC
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<Z0idberg>
there are 6800 chips that have two stacks
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<Z0idberg>
which make it much easier to handle C function calls
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<Z0idberg>
though even then, the 68000 is better
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<Z0idberg>
@Wattana you do it the way C does, or use registers.
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<Z0idberg>
@Wattana How does C usually send arguments to subroutines, ( I
know, but you should)
L171[15:29:24]
<Wattana>
>Z0idberg: <@!373271404155764747> How does C usually send
arguments to subroutines, (…
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<Wattana>
idk never bothered to learn
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<Z0idberg>
Ok
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<Z0idberg>
Well typically, arguments are passed to functions on the
stack
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<Z0idberg>
if you have 3 arguments you push 3 separate items on the stack. If
it's a string or something you push a pointer to it instead
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<Z0idberg>
and 6502 has a register specifically for dealing with
pointers
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<Z0idberg>
@Wattana If you want to mix assembly and C you absolutely have to
know this.
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<Z0idberg>
otherwise it won't work
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<Z0idberg>
You will need to look at the spec for the C compiler you are using
(cc65, maybe?) and how it handles arguments to functions
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<Z0idberg>
under "Calling sequences"
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<Forecaster> someone wanted this wall to
be very black
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<lunar_sam>
>Z0idberg: though even then, the 68000 is better
L188[15:56:44]
<lunar_sam>
👀
L189[15:56:48]
<lunar_sam>
i've thought about doing this
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<Z0idberg>
Oh yeah?
L191[15:56:59]
<Z0idberg>
I have a book on that chip heh
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<lunar_sam>
yea
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<Z0idberg>
the 6809E is what I have in my coco though
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<Z0idberg>
which si an 8 bit 6800 with dual stack
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<lunar_sam>
i just couldn't figure out how to make component calls work
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<Z0idberg>
that's one of the hardest things
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<Z0idberg>
My recommendation is to build data structures in memory and perhaps
even create a "component controller"
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<Z0idberg>
that you talk to
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<lunar_sam>
i used unicorn engine as my emulator for 68k
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<Z0idberg>
possibly have a signature ID taht's 16 bit or something
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<Z0idberg>
or just have them check the string name
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<Z0idberg>
OH
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<Z0idberg>
you could hash it
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<Z0idberg>
the component name
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<Z0idberg>
do like 16 bit pearson hashing
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<Z0idberg>
and then you would have some memory for the UUID
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<Z0idberg>
and maybe some sort of method vector
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<Z0idberg>
@lunar_sam It's not an easy problem for sure.
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<lunar_sam>
yea
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<Wattana>
>Forecaster:
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<Wattana>
thats no wall thats the void
L214[16:19:54]
<Forecaster> well, someone hung some
things on the void
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<Wattana>
so i wanna try UNIX on Thistle
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<Wattana>
kernel from scratch or port Little UNIX?
L217[16:36:53] <Amanda> %choose wind farm
or use solars again
L218[16:36:53] <MichiBot> Amanda: Wait,
what was the question again? Uhh... "wind farm"?
L219[16:52:57]
<Forecaster> these are important issues
MichiBot, you should be paying attention
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L221[16:54:19] <Amanda> very important
indeed
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L223[16:55:12] <Amanda> Anyone know of
landscaping around a deposit does anything to the deposit. There's
a deposit of water in a crater I want to fill in
L224[16:55:31] <Amanda> ( In Surviving
MArs )
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<Vaur>
%tonkout
L227[16:59:27] <MichiBot> Wah! Vaur! You
beat your own previous record of 1 hour and 40 minutes (By 1 hour,
18 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L228[16:59:28] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.002
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.02333,
Position #3 Need 0.00811 more points to pass Forecaster!
L229[17:01:03] <Amanda> %choose spend 2B
or wait until you can produce them locally
L230[17:01:03] <MichiBot> Amanda: I have
a pamphlet that says never to engage in "spend 2B", so
you should definitely do it!
L231[17:01:17] <Amanda> michibot needs to
get more financially responsible pamphlets
L232[17:01:18] <Amanda> ph wel
L233[17:06:05] <Amanda> I'm kinda afraid
this warm patch I placed this dome on will disappear when the game
decides to recalculate the permafrost states
L235[18:15:32] <Amanda> %choose keep the
happy-little-accident or waste resources fixing it
L236[18:15:32] <MichiBot> Amanda: I tried
reading my tea leaves this morning. There was something about death
and doom. Anyway, go with "keep the
happy-little-accident"
L237[18:15:50] <Amanda> Hrm. No, I shall
waste resources.
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<Forecaster> a health pack station and an
energy pack station in literally the same place
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<Z0idberg>
@Forecaster what is that?
L247[18:48:10]
<Wattana>
Elite Dangerous maybe
L248[18:48:14]
<Z0idberg>
I see
L249[18:48:35]
<Z0idberg>
@Wattana I wanna see a Forth
L250[18:48:53]
<Z0idberg>
We need a good Forth implementation for the 6502 arch
L251[18:49:03]
<Z0idberg>
But writing a Forth in C is a sin
L252[18:49:15]
<Z0idberg>
Since forth is usually faster than C
L254[18:49:50]
<Z0idberg>
Yes that one
L255[18:50:20]
<Z0idberg>
Though it isn't a language you should implement just by looking at
it;
L256[18:50:34]
<Z0idberg>
It has some really, really interesting quirks in its design under
the hood
L257[18:50:40]
<Z0idberg>
and has been done in many different ways
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<Wattana>
just writing a parser in lua makes me withered
L260[18:50:50]
<Z0idberg>
I've done it
L261[18:50:52]
<Wattana>
just writing a parser in lua already makes me withered
[Edited]
L262[18:50:59]
<Z0idberg>
it's actually one of the easiest languages to parse
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<Z0idberg>
You can do it in like one line
L265[18:51:53]
<Wattana>
I'd still have to write myself a library for processing inputs
tho?
L266[18:52:13]
<Wattana>
component mapper thing
L267[18:52:14]
<Z0idberg>
the inputs is the language itself. you can use the TIB
L268[18:52:19]
<Z0idberg>
aka the Text Input Buffer
L269[18:53:09]
<Z0idberg>
Look at me go, I just finished a programming test I needed to do
for a potential employer
L270[18:53:46]
<Z0idberg>
Some of the questions on it were interesting but a lot of it was
like, ...really?
L271[18:53:55]
<Z0idberg>
"what is a programming language?"
L272[18:54:42]
<Wattana>
~~a dud~~
L273[18:55:49]
<Forecaster> it is E:D
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L276[19:04:14] ***
maxpowa is now known as max
L277[19:04:30]
<Z0idberg>
are you frigging kidding me
L278[19:04:53]
<Z0idberg>
I got 1 question wrong because it asked me how to spell ie.
correctly. I wrote i.e. and it said, "you're incorrect, it's
"i.e.,"
L279[19:04:56]
<Z0idberg>
I missed a comma
L280[19:05:55]
<Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 good good! Gamax92 is still around eh
L281[19:06:04]
<Z0idberg>
To be expected of them to write one
L282[19:06:42]
<Kristopher38> this is pretty old though,
2017
L283[19:55:35] <lunar_sam> very good,
address serialization works on my linux TN stack
L284[19:55:41] <lunar_sam> TNv2, that
is
L285[19:57:59] <lunar_sam> it can also
understand addresses you throw at it
L286[19:58:02] <lunar_sam> like
`:::`
L287[19:58:08] <lunar_sam> and probably
`:`
L288[19:58:57] <lunar_sam> yeah
L289[19:59:29] <lunar_sam> `:` turns into
`0000:`
L290[20:00:45] <lunar_sam> also it can
auto generate checksums
L291[20:01:24] <lunar_sam> like
`ffff:0000:0000:` turns into `ffff:::0e10` if you want to generate
the checksum
L292[20:01:47] <lunar_sam> which shows off
the basic shorthard forms of TN addresses
L293[20:09:51] <Amanda> Ah yes, who cares
if mars ends up grey-goo'd
L295[20:10:56]
<Forecaster> a little nanite
contamination's never killed anyone
L296[20:11:08]
<Forecaster> just rearranged their
molecules a little
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L300[20:20:48] <Amanda> %choose tunnel or
ramp
L301[20:20:49] <MichiBot> Amanda: I tried
reading my tea leaves this morning. There was something about death
and doom. Anyway, go with "tunnel"
L302[20:47:47] *
Amanda wonders if she'll get the breakthrough that lets drone hubs
be automatous in this playthough
L303[20:47:56] <Amanda> I was truely
spoilt by getting that breakthrough in my first run
L304[20:48:17] <Amanda> Wait, seocnd
L305[20:49:51] <Amanda> ... damnit, I'm
not sure my fuel processor will last until this rocket's full so I
can send it out for more machine parts.
L306[20:50:18] <Amanda> %choose call in
supply pod or wait and see
L307[20:50:18] <MichiBot> Amanda: I
received a message from future you, said to go with "call in
supply pod".
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<Forecaster> %tonk
L312[21:27:29] <MichiBot> Boom!
Forecaster! You beat Vaur's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours,
28 minutes and 1 second)! I hope you're happy!
L313[21:27:30] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 4 hours, 28 minutes and 1 second! Forecaster also gained
0.00447 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need
0.00704 more points to pass Kodos!
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L316[22:17:02] <Amanda> %choose
pizza?
L317[22:17:02] <MichiBot> Amanda:
"pizza" doesn't really seem like a good idea right
now.
L318[22:17:14] <Amanda> hrm, what _is_ a
good idea, then
L319[22:17:35]
<Forecaster> pizza, but call it
tacos
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L321[22:28:30] <Amanda> That sounds
good
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<Forecaster> It's very nice of the
commando guarding the security room to give himself a timeout and
stand in the corner
L325[22:54:33]
<Forecaster> makes it very easy to sneak
past him and turn off the facility alarm system
L326[23:12:05]
<Forecaster> heh, if you turn of the
reactor and there's still a worker in the reactor room they go and
turn it back on again
L327[23:52:10]
<Z0idberg>
LOL Discord revoked my nitro
L328[23:52:17]
<Z0idberg>
No idea why
L330[23:54:41]
<Forecaster> did you get a message or
something