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<lunar_sam>
friend was drawing me a foxgirl
<lunar_sam>
friend was drawing me a foxgirlL2[00:21:24] <lunar_sam>
and
<lunar_sam>
andL3[00:21:31] <lunar_sam>
sent me a WIP
<lunar_sam>
sent me a WIPL4[00:21:42] <lunar_sam>
and i can't post most of it here but
<lunar_sam>
and i can't post most of it here butL5[00:21:53] <lunar_sam>
he also drew a cozy fox getting pet
<lunar_sam>
he also drew a cozy fox getting petL7[00:22:05] <lunar_sam>
cozy fox
<lunar_sam>
cozy foxL8[00:31:41] <marsh>
does anyone here know how to get oc2
<marsh>
does anyone here know how to get oc2L9[00:31:51] <marsh> do
i actually have to compile it
<marsh> do
i actually have to compile itL10[00:32:27] <Michiyo> https://ci.cil.li/job/oc2-1.16-forge/
L11[00:32:43] <Michiyo> It's on the same
jenkins as OC
L12[00:34:11] <marsh>
bruh
<marsh>
bruhL13[00:34:16] <marsh> i
just finished compiling it 💀
<marsh> i
just finished compiling it 💀L14[00:34:56] ⇦
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L15[00:38:22] <Z0idberg>
you and your furries
<Z0idberg>
you and your furriesL16[00:38:39] <Z0idberg>
@lunar_sam They are drawing you your waifu?
<Z0idberg>
@lunar_sam They are drawing you your waifu?L17[01:04:10] <Amanda> Ah yes, it's that
time of year where my youtube recommendations are shot due to me
searching for a 12h fireplace video to put on the TV during
christmas presents
L18[01:04:31] <Amanda> "You wanted
nothing but more fireplace videos now, right, Amanda?" -
Google, probably
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L21[01:25:55] <Amanda> Elfi halp, I know
where s planet is with enough gold to crash the galactic economy,
but I'm too lazy to mine all the fuel I need to get back
there
L22[01:26:57] <Amanda> Rather, get there
and back
L23[01:27:07] <Amanda> I could probably
make it one-way
L24[01:28:21] <Amanda> Also the planet is
infested with arachne wannabes
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L26[02:59:10] <lunar_sam>
>Z0idberg: <@!175686996461617162> They are drawing
y…
<lunar_sam>
>Z0idberg: <@!175686996461617162> They are drawing
y…L27[02:59:10] <lunar_sam>
no, i just like foxgirls
<lunar_sam>
no, i just like foxgirlsL28[03:35:21] <Michiyo> Well fuck it, guess
I'm testing in production
L29[03:35:24] <Michiyo> I hate java
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L33[03:37:00] <Michiyo>
well, shit
<Michiyo>
well, shitL34[03:38:26] <Michiyo>
Oh
<Michiyo>
OhL35[03:38:41] <Michiyo>
>lunar_sam: waterfill
<Michiyo>
>lunar_sam: waterfillL36[03:38:41] <Michiyo> I
need to test a reply, sorry
<Michiyo> I
need to test a reply, sorryL37[03:38:57] <Michiyo> I
see... it's broken because webhooks don't have a member ._.
<Michiyo> I
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L41[03:39:50] <Michiyo> yay for being able
to specify build numbers on start
L42[03:39:59] <Michiyo>
>Michiyo: yay for being able to specify build num…
<Michiyo>
>Michiyo: yay for being able to specify build num…L43[03:40:00] <Michiyo>
Right?
<Michiyo>
Right?L44[03:43:11] *
Amanda teaches elfi the secret meowphrase to get into the ships and
access the warp drive
L45[03:43:28] *
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she sleeps
L46[03:43:52] <Michiyo> Night Amanda
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L50[03:44:33] <Amanda> Night night
L51[03:44:42] <Michiyo>
>Michiyo: Night Amanda
<Michiyo>
>Michiyo: Night AmandaL52[03:44:42] <Michiyo>
Testing
<Michiyo>
TestingL53[03:44:51] <Michiyo>
>lunar_sam: no, i just like foxgirls
<Michiyo>
>lunar_sam: no, i just like foxgirlsL54[03:44:51] <Michiyo>
Testing
<Michiyo>
TestingL55[03:44:54] <Michiyo>
yay!
<Michiyo>
yay!L56[04:49:49] ⇦
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L61[05:44:13] <CompanionCube> %redshell
Forecaster
L62[05:44:14] <MichiBot> CompanionCube:
Unfortunately you missed with a 5 vs 14.
L63[05:48:13] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL64[05:48:13] <MichiBot> Fiddlesticks!
Vaur! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 12 hours, 22
minutes and 34 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L65[05:48:14] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record
is 12 hours, 22 minutes and 34 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.01238)
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L72[13:30:54] *
Amanda boops Inari
L73[13:31:01] <Amanda> @splash Inari with
mutable pearlpeas potion
L74[13:31:17] <Amanda> %splash Inari with
mutable pearlpeas potion
L75[13:31:17] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable pearlpeas potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari
turns into a turtle girl until someone stabs them.
L76[13:31:32] <Amanda> Inari's now a
kappa?
L77[13:31:45] <Amanda> Hey Inair, look at
your keyboard reak quick!
L78[13:32:04] *
Inari bops Amanda
L79[13:32:08] <Amanda> D:
L80[13:32:36] <Amanda> rude kappa
L81[14:04:25] <Z0idberg>
rewd
<Z0idberg>
rewdL82[14:04:50] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL83[14:04:51] <MichiBot> You drink a tiny
citrus potion (New!). After drinking the potion Vaur realizes the
bottle has their face on it.
L84[14:14:53] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL85[14:14:54] <MichiBot> You drink a fiery
boneboo potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a turtle girl until
they see a star fall.
L86[14:15:09] <Forecaster> Dangit
<Forecaster> DangitL87[14:20:09] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL88[14:20:09] <MichiBot> You drink a
shining titanium potion (New!). For about a second Vaur knows the
location of a great treasure.
L89[14:57:32] <Amanda> Two kappa
girls!
L90[15:03:06] <Forecaster> not all turtles are kappas
> . >
<Forecaster> not all turtles are kappas
> . >L91[15:03:23] <Amanda> Sounds like
something a kappa trying to trick a cat would say!
L92[15:04:41] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL93[15:04:41] <MichiBot> You drink a warpy
dalekanium potion (New!). Vaur suddenly craves pie.
L94[15:06:01] <Amanda> %choose go mine some
zacs from the fox home planet or continue the story mission
L95[15:06:01] <MichiBot> Amanda: You'll
want to go with "go mine some zacs from the fox home
planet".
L96[15:32:53] <Amanda> Such a...
"beautiful" day ,mining Zacsoium from the fox
homeworks.
L97[15:33:10] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/hQSmrFdJrHXbkzIbgtknhbkx/383120_20211228103226_1.png
L98[15:33:29] <Forecaster> hot planet is hot
<Forecaster> hot planet is hotL99[15:35:27] <Amanda> I believe that the
lore implication of this type of planet is those purple PoIs have
mined the planet to the point that it's gotten geologically
unstable, as there's constant storms, oceans of lava, and the whole
planet's a furnace
L100[15:36:32] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL101[15:36:32] <MichiBot> You drink a
smooth emerald potion (New!). The potion bottle insults Vaur's
haircut.
L102[15:36:54] <Amanda> %choose stay and
mine more or head home
L103[15:36:54] <MichiBot> Amanda: Why not
both? Okay fine. "stay and mine more".
L104[15:37:04] <Amanda> Hrm. Nah, I'll
come back later
L105[15:37:45] <Forecaster> what the...
<Forecaster> what the...L109[15:38:21] <Forecaster> this makes no sense to
me...
<Forecaster> this makes no sense to
me...L110[15:39:54] <Forecaster> oh...
<Forecaster> oh...L111[15:40:00] <Forecaster> oops
<Forecaster> oopsL112[15:40:31] <Forecaster> it was using the wrong
order
<Forecaster> it was using the wrong
orderL113[15:40:49] <Amanda> Will wrong your
order
L114[15:41:42] <Amanda> %choose inspect
mapEdenScaninfoResource or continue home, ignoring the potential
bug
L115[15:41:42] <MichiBot> Amanda: Hold on
tightly! "continue home, ignoring the potential bug" is a
wild ride!
L116[15:41:44] <Forecaster> turns out I made it save the
order file in the working dir instead of the target dir
<Forecaster> turns out I made it save the
order file in the working dir instead of the target dirL117[15:42:02] <Forecaster> so it was using the one from
the last show
<Forecaster> so it was using the one from
the last showL118[15:42:37] <Amanda> Hrm. I'll seed
some savescum then try and poke about that asteroid field, I'm
curious
L119[15:50:27] <Amanda> "Too much
interfearence - Astroid Scan Inconclusive"
L120[15:57:07] <Forecaster> the asteroids are saying
"quit being so nosy"
<Forecaster> the asteroids are saying
"quit being so nosy"L121[16:14:46] <Neuro>
>Forecaster:
<Neuro>
>Forecaster:L122[16:14:46] <Neuro> it
took . . too long to figure out what show that was
<Neuro> it
took . . too long to figure out what show that wasL123[16:14:46] <Neuro>
LOL
<Neuro>
LOLL124[16:15:23] <Forecaster> the episode names are pretty
generic
<Forecaster> the episode names are pretty
genericL125[16:15:42] <Neuro>
yup
<Neuro>
yupL126[16:15:50] <Neuro>
"a stranger from earth" ended up being the one that
worked
<Neuro>
"a stranger from earth" ended up being the one that
workedL127[16:16:04] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL128[16:16:04] <MichiBot> You drink a
light tuna potion (New!). Some tonk points fly by. Vaur caught
0.012 tonk points. (Rem. uses: 2)
L129[16:16:18] <Forecaster> %sip light tuna
<Forecaster> %sip light tunaL130[16:16:18] <MichiBot> You drink a
light tuna potion. Some tonk points fly by. Forecaster caught 0.076
tonk points. (Rem. uses: 1)
L131[16:16:50] <Forecaster> oh yeah, I refactored potion
actions slightly in the last update
<Forecaster> oh yeah, I refactored potion
actions slightly in the last updateL132[16:22:00]
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L133[16:35:02] <Forecaster> %sip light tuna
<Forecaster> %sip light tunaL134[16:35:03] <MichiBot> You drink a
light tuna potion. Some tonk points fly by. Forecaster caught 0.007
tonk points. (Rem. uses: 0)
L135[16:54:37] <Amanda> fuck.
L136[16:54:57] <Amanda> Guess I'm going
back out, I didn't realise I needed estrogen as well as zacs
L137[17:06:25] <Amanda> oh good, the game
hung, in a hostile sector. :D
L138[17:06:38] <Forecaster> that's always fun
<Forecaster> that's always funL139[17:08:06] <Amanda> ofc as soon as I
call it out, it unhangs
L141[17:18:48] <Forecaster> dammit
<Forecaster> dammitL142[17:30:52] <Z0idberg>
Looking at this space game Amanda has been playing i dunno some of
it looks way better than SE but the ship building l
<Z0idberg>
Looking at this space game Amanda has been playing i dunno some of
it looks way better than SE but the ship building lL143[17:30:53] <Z0idberg>
Part looks too simple
<Z0idberg>
Part looks too simpleL144[17:31:27] <Z0idberg>
Like I wanted to have a game like SE but more complex ship
building
<Z0idberg>
Like I wanted to have a game like SE but more complex ship
buildingL145[17:33:41] <Forecaster> so more like Dual
Universe?
<Forecaster> so more like Dual
Universe?L146[17:36:28]
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L150[17:41:08] <dequbed> @Z0idberg
Interstellar Rift?
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L155[17:50:37] <Z0idberg>
I have only heard the name
<Z0idberg>
I have only heard the nameL156[18:26:07] <lunar_sam> >dual
universe
L157[18:26:11] <lunar_sam>
disgusting
L158[18:26:20] <lunar_sam> fr*nch
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L161[18:32:02] <Neuro>
fr*nch game 🤮
<Neuro>
fr*nch game 🤮L162[18:33:00] <Izaya> tfw your government
pisses off the french to become more of the US's bitch and you
can't decide which option you hate more
L163[18:33:35] <Amanda> The hell did I
miss
L164[18:33:55] <Izaya> you didn't hear
about the submarine thing?
L165[18:34:34] <Amanda> For the sake of my
mental health, I ignore the news as much as physically
possible
L166[18:34:43] <Izaya>
understandable
L167[18:35:29] <Izaya> well tl;dr we were
half way through having the french build us submarines for ...
whatever reason, then because australia is a US client state the
government decided "nah fuck that we're going to operate
US-built nuclear submarines instead"
L168[18:36:04] <Izaya> which y'know, we
can't actually maintain or anything, but that's fine because we're
supposed to be dependent anyway
L169[18:36:33] <Izaya> so we successfully
pissed off the french and gave up another piece of what little
independence australia has in one action
L170[18:36:40] <Izaya> ft. the australian
PM ghosting the french PM
L171[18:36:46] <Amanda> I see
L172[18:37:14] <Izaya> it'd be funny if I
wasn't involved, but it's sort of just depressing from where I'm
sitting
L173[18:37:47] <Amanda> %choose go visit
the foxes or head home
L174[18:37:47] <MichiBot> Amanda: If I
had a gold nugget for every time someone asked me about "go
visit the foxes"
L175[18:45:26] <Ashirg>
%sip
<Ashirg>
%sipL176[18:45:27] <MichiBot> You drink a
powdery red potion (New!). As Ashirg drinks the potion they seem to
have become magnetic and A living tombstone flies towards them!
They fail to evade it with a 11 vs DC 14 and takes 1d6 => 1
damage.
L177[18:45:39] <Ashirg>
What
<Ashirg>
WhatL178[18:46:10] <Amanda> Damnit, whose
making golem tombstones again!
L179[18:49:21] <lunar_sam> Izaya: feel
that
L180[18:49:50] <Forecaster> %tonkout
<Forecaster> %tonkoutL181[18:49:51] <MichiBot> Fudge!
Forecaster! You beat Vaur's previous record of 12 hours, 22
minutes and 34 seconds (By 39 minutes and 2 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L182[18:49:52] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.013 tonk
points! plus 0.012 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 4.58188174. Position #1
L183[19:20:51] <dequbed> Izaya: The best
part about the whole thing is that you arguably downgraded with
that decision too :P
L184[19:21:36] <Izaya> it's so
stupid
L185[19:21:55] <Z0idberg>
Why are weddings so expensive
<Z0idberg>
Why are weddings so expensiveL186[19:26:37] <Amanda> Because
Capitalism
L187[19:28:31] <Izaya> getting that
paperwork signed isn't that expensive is it
L188[19:28:38] <Izaya> it's like
registering a road vehicle
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L190[19:29:52] <prisma> \o/ got my GPUSS
lib working
L191[19:30:14] <Izaya> what's that?
L192[19:30:21] <prisma> GPU
SaveStates
L193[19:30:28] <prisma> fancy screenshots
that you can restore from
L194[19:30:31] <Z0idberg>
My car $260? USD I think this year to register
<Z0idberg>
My car $260? USD I think this year to registerL195[19:30:37] <Z0idberg>
which is not bad
<Z0idberg>
which is not badL196[19:30:39] <prisma> captures the whole
screen, or an area
L197[19:30:43] <prisma> then you can
restore that
L198[19:30:44] <Z0idberg>
Not bad for a 2018 sports car
<Z0idberg>
Not bad for a 2018 sports carL199[19:30:47] <prisma> doesn't save blank
pixels
L200[19:31:05] <Izaya> my bikes were $226
total which is also not bad
L201[19:31:18] <Z0idberg>
I forget what the number is based on here
<Z0idberg>
I forget what the number is based on hereL202[19:31:21] <prisma> aud?
L203[19:31:28] <Izaya> amusingly the 2007
ZZR was like 1.5x as much as the 2010 XT
L204[19:31:30] <Izaya> yee
L205[19:31:42] <prisma> I should get back
onto the shadowkat server
L206[19:31:46] <prisma> What's the pack
link, again?
L207[19:31:59] <prisma> I've gotten back
into OC dev
L208[19:32:08] <Z0idberg>
According to our state:
<Z0idberg>
According to our state:L210[19:32:12] <Izaya> https://games.shadowkat.net/mc
L211[19:32:16] <prisma> Thamk
L212[19:32:23] <Z0idberg>
I think my car was $29K
<Z0idberg>
I think my car was $29KL213[19:32:24] <Izaya> guess I should
update forge huh
L214[19:32:33] <prisma> If only OC for
fabric
L215[19:32:48] <Z0idberg>
Subaru's sports line is perhaps the cheapest sports cars you can
buy that I know of
<Z0idberg>
Subaru's sports line is perhaps the cheapest sports cars you can
buy that I know ofL216[19:33:04] <Z0idberg>
It's kinda nice tbf
<Z0idberg>
It's kinda nice tbfL217[19:33:27] <Izaya> I turned off the
server because I was too lazy to update to deal with the log4j
thing lmao
L218[19:33:32] <Z0idberg>
And they are the third leqast depreciated value vehicle in the
world, second only to the porche 911 and some nissan sports
car
<Z0idberg>
And they are the third leqast depreciated value vehicle in the
world, second only to the porche 911 and some nissan sports
carL219[19:33:39] <Z0idberg>
so it doesnt lose its value
<Z0idberg>
so it doesnt lose its valueL220[19:33:47] <Izaya> nissan huh
L221[19:33:50] <Izaya> go figure
L222[19:34:05] <Izaya> would you believe
the value of my ZZR has gone up since I got it?
L223[19:34:10] <prisma> Oh, server's not
on?
L224[19:34:16] <Z0idberg>
yeah.. I've seen it in person, the thing looks like a tiny lemans
car
<Z0idberg>
yeah.. I've seen it in person, the thing looks like a tiny lemans
carL225[19:34:20] <prisma> Also log4j bug
only affects ancient java
L226[19:34:24] <prisma> Like, pre
8u191
L227[19:34:37] <Z0idberg>
log4j is in literally everything
<Z0idberg>
log4j is in literally everythingL228[19:34:41] <Z0idberg>
so I mean
<Z0idberg>
so I meanL229[19:34:42] <prisma> Yeah
L230[19:34:46] <prisma> And a lot of that
uses ancient java
L231[19:34:51] <Izaya> I mean, the server
runs on Debian...
L232[19:34:56] <Z0idberg>
Whether or not you're using something modern or not you probably
have shit that has it
<Z0idberg>
Whether or not you're using something modern or not you probably
have shit that has itL233[19:35:05] <Z0idberg>
the problem is prisma is that many people are still on Java 8
<Z0idberg>
the problem is prisma is that many people are still on Java 8L234[19:35:11] <prisma> yup
L235[19:35:18] <Z0idberg>
Why I don't know
<Z0idberg>
Why I don't knowL236[19:35:23] <prisma> minecraft.
L237[19:35:29] <Z0idberg>
heh
<Z0idberg>
hehL238[19:35:34] <prisma> 1.16 and
earlier
L239[19:35:40] <prisma> forge really does
not like java 11
L240[19:36:03] <Z0idberg>
Even placeds I've worked that used Java were using Java 8 even last
year solely because the migration to anything newer would break all
of the dependencies qand everything else.
<Z0idberg>
Even placeds I've worked that used Java were using Java 8 even last
year solely because the migration to anything newer would break all
of the dependencies qand everything else.L241[19:36:07] <Z0idberg>
so
<Z0idberg>
soL242[19:36:09] <Izaya> so this is probably
fine? build 1.8.0_265-b01
L243[19:36:19] <prisma> Yup
L244[19:36:24] <prisma> Should be
L245[19:36:49] <Z0idberg>
To be fair though, logging isn't something you should need to use
an existing library for. It's logging...
<Z0idberg>
To be fair though, logging isn't something you should need to use
an existing library for. It's logging...L246[19:37:03] <prisma> Doesn't Java have
a logger inbuilt
L247[19:37:04] <Z0idberg>
you can roll your own that works really well in 5 minutes or
less.
<Z0idberg>
you can roll your own that works really well in 5 minutes or
less.L248[19:37:06] <prisma> `openjdk version
"1.8.0_312"` is mine
L249[19:37:18] <Z0idberg>
you could even just send to syslog or some shit in a minute or
less
<Z0idberg>
you could even just send to syslog or some shit in a minute or
lessL250[19:37:27] <prisma>
System.out.println
L251[19:37:39] <prisma> Quick and dirty,
does the job
L252[19:38:19] <prisma> also, Izaya: the
server itself should auto-update right?
L253[19:38:27] <prisma> mojang patched it
on their manifests
L254[19:38:37] <Izaya> not quite, the
updater specifies a version of forge
L255[19:38:54] <prisma> ah
L256[19:38:55] <Z0idberg>
It's just that the whole Java community attitude that reinventing
the wheel is always 100% bad in any case no matter what foot down
no exceptions is, in itself, very wrong.
<Z0idberg>
It's just that the whole Java community attitude that reinventing
the wheel is always 100% bad in any case no matter what foot down
no exceptions is, in itself, very wrong.L257[19:39:05] <dequbed> prisma: Would you
believe me when I said there's a RCE in the very latest Log4J 2.17
currently in embargo? :)
L258[19:39:08] <Izaya> and I'm told you
need to update forge for 1.12 to patch it
L259[19:39:11] <prisma> sometimes the
wheel is shit
L260[19:39:21] <prisma> dequbed: wait, its
not patched at all?
L261[19:39:27] <dequbed> It's a new
one
L262[19:39:30] <prisma> O h
L263[19:39:37] <dequbed> … the third one
at that.
L264[19:39:46] <prisma> Is there a
CVE?
L265[19:40:05] <prisma> Also why haven't
we ditched log4j already, considering this, and the other one
L266[19:40:30] <dequbed> prisma: May I
point you at the word "embargo"?
L267[19:40:42] <prisma> Yes, I do not know
what that means
L268[19:40:57] <Izaya> it means imports
and exports are blocked to that country
L269[19:41:00] <Izaya> :^)
L270[19:41:01] <prisma> Ah
L271[19:41:07] <prisma> How does that
relate to log4j
L272[19:41:17] <dequbed> "The issue
is currently on a need-to know basis so we can fix it before
everybody and their grandma gets their collective digital asses
reamed"
L273[19:41:21] <prisma> Ah
L274[19:41:46] <prisma> I bet you
someone's already exploited it and hasn't told anyone
L275[19:41:59] <dequbed> Possible, but
unlikely
L276[19:43:46] <prisma> Was the previous
one exploited a lot in the wild or not much
L277[19:44:06] <prisma> Also: 1.6.4 and
older are safe, right?
L278[19:44:09] <prisma> They don't use
log4j2
L279[19:44:54] <dequbed> The previous one
was around for several years. It was definitely exploited. It's
unlikely that not at least one of the big Spy agencies knew and
used it extensively.
L280[19:45:14] <prisma> Fair
L281[19:46:06] <Amanda> someone dug up the
JIRA ticket for the jdni format feature requesdt and subsiquent
patch
L282[19:46:57] <prisma> If the JNDI/LDAP
port is blocked, will it still go through?
L283[19:47:14] <Amanda> It's somewhat
worrying how little thought seemed to have gone into accepting that
patch. "We need this." nobody asking "why does a log
library need to have support for polling external
servers."
L284[19:47:18] <prisma> (389/626)
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L286[19:47:30] <prisma> Amanda: People are
stupid and blind
L287[19:47:38] <prisma> This reminds me of
an xkcd
L288[19:47:52] <prisma>
xkcd.com/1700
L289[19:48:05] <Forecaster> %xkcd 1700
<Forecaster> %xkcd 1700L290[19:48:05] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
New Bug URL: https://xkcd.com/1700
L291[19:48:16] <prisma> Oh, forgot about
that
L292[19:49:11] <dequbed> prisma: you can
specify a port in the URL. The only solution is to use DPI or to
replace the log4j classes.
L293[19:49:19] <prisma> Ah
L294[19:49:21] <prisma> DPI?
L295[19:49:26] <dequbed> deep packet
inspection
L296[19:49:29] <prisma> ah
L297[19:49:36] <prisma> does java 8u191+
fix it, at all?
L298[19:49:37] <dequbed> aka figure out
that this is a LDAP connection and kill it with fire
L299[19:49:39] <prisma> Or java 11+?
L300[19:49:43] <dequbed> Java has nothing
to do with it.
L301[19:49:48] <prisma> Oh right
L302[19:50:07] <Amanda> It's a third-party
library, one tjat just happens to be used by a lot of java
projects
L303[19:50:11] <dequbed> Granted, killing
it with fire is what you should do to every part of X.500, LDAP
very much included.
L304[19:50:49] <prisma> kill it with `sudo
rm -rfv`
L305[19:51:03] <Amanda> someone linked a
post to twitter where their outbound firewall was logging attempts
LDAP attempts from their RFID scanner in front of their
building
L306[19:51:03] <prisma> and then overwrite
it with zeros, for good measure
L307[19:51:15] <prisma> Amanda: what the
fuck?
L308[19:51:19] <prisma> LDAP... from an
RFID scanner???
L309[19:51:26] <prisma> Something that
shouldn't be connected to the internet???
L310[19:51:37] <prisma> Or even a network,
really??
L311[19:51:45] <Amanda> Presumably someone
loaded a JDNI log4j payload onto a NFC card to try and hack the
building
L312[19:51:48] <dequbed> RFID as in door
control
L313[19:51:54] <prisma> Yup
L314[19:51:57] <dequbed> That can very
sensibly be networked.
L315[19:52:03] <dequbed> You need to
validate the card somehow.
L316[19:52:03] <prisma> Yeah, I
guess
L317[19:52:06] <prisma> but it shouldn't
have internet
L318[19:52:08] <prisma> should it?
L319[19:52:13] <dequbed> Depends
L320[19:52:17] <dequbed> Where's your
authentication server?
L321[19:52:18] <Amanda> Exactly why it was
flagging the outbound firewall
L322[19:52:33] <prisma> Shouldn't auth
servers be on-site?
L323[19:52:36] <dequbed> But yeah. It's
safer to *not* rely on Internet there. See Facebook.
L324[19:52:41] <Amanda> depends on the
size of the org
L325[19:52:41] <prisma> Yup
L326[19:52:47] <prisma> Yeah for a small
org probably offsite
L327[19:53:13] <prisma> But for any large
org it should be on-site, or at the very least sandboxed to hell
and back with a second round trip for good measure
L328[19:53:23] <Amanda> dequbed:
"What happens when LDAP is down, we don't have any physical
keyholes" "I'm sure we pay someone to think of
that!" - Apparently not exactly, I mean, someone had thought
of bringing in a contractor with an angle grinder, I guess
L329[19:53:48] <prisma> imo there should
always be a physical keyhole
L330[19:53:49] <prisma> because like
that
L331[19:53:56] <prisma> "what happens
if our rfid can't connect"
L332[19:54:03] <prisma> "we're just
fucked, simple"
L333[19:54:08] <dequbed> Amanda: Exactly
why we have deadswitches to bootstrap the everything without LDAP
:P
L334[19:54:38] <prisma> Izaya: May I
suggest 'Controlling'?
L335[19:54:49] <prisma> Makes the keybind
menu not shit
L336[19:54:53] <Amanda> dequbed: the first
couple quotes are from someone who interned at facebook
L337[19:55:14] <prisma> Lets you search
keys and find conflicts
L338[19:55:31] <dequbed> Amanda: I know.
I'm a person getting paid to think of what to do when your LDAP
burns down :P
L339[19:55:38] <Amanda> haha
L340[19:56:32] <stephan48> what happens
when ldap is down? well take a brick out of the drive way and smash
a window
L341[19:56:42] <stephan48> happy
2021
L342[19:56:52] <prisma> I read
"drive" and thought of computer drives
L343[19:57:00] <prisma> And was like
"why do you have bricks in your racks"
L344[19:57:13] <dequbed> stephan48: No.
Step 1: celebrate! The witch is dead! Step 2: Go on with your life
knowing everything is so much easier now :P
L345[19:57:19] <stephan48> in case the
network admin annoys me.
L346[19:57:30] <prisma> but if you have
rack access
L347[19:57:34] <prisma> you *are* the
netadmin, usually
L348[19:57:43] <prisma> I'd hope noone
other than the sysadmin/netadmin has physical rack access
L349[19:57:55] <dequbed> You never met
manglement did you?
L350[19:58:01] <prisma> Nope
L351[19:58:04] <stephan48> you never
worked with colocation did you? :D
L352[19:58:07] <Neuro>
everyone has rack access with a large enough brick 😛
<Neuro>
everyone has rack access with a large enough brick 😛L353[19:58:14] <dequbed> Taking away keys
from suits is like taking away sweets from toddlers.
L354[19:58:22] <stephan48> you are
surprised what businesses put their stuff into colo and gave us
keys
L355[19:58:28] <prisma> Speaking of
colocation
L356[19:58:29] <Forecaster> we need tighter brick
control
<Forecaster> we need tighter brick
controlL357[19:58:33] <prisma> %xkcd 1439
L358[19:58:33] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Rack Unit URL: https://xkcd.com/1439
L359[19:59:09] <prisma> oh boy I sure do
love having seconds per frame
L360[19:59:16] <dequbed> @Forecaster
around here having server centers in disused WW2 (muniiton) bunkers
is quite common. Ya need a pretty big brick to get in there
:P
L361[19:59:31] <stephan48> thats a great
XKCD
L363[20:00:03] <Neuro>
should be large enough
<Neuro>
should be large enoughL364[20:00:18] <prisma> Izaya: what was
the irc channel for the server, again?
L365[20:00:57] <Izaya> #SKSDev
L366[20:01:02] <prisma> ty
L367[20:02:31] <Neuro>
speaking of xkcd checked the site and the most recent one is pretty
good haha https://tinyurl.com/y5r527a2
<Neuro>
speaking of xkcd checked the site and the most recent one is pretty
good haha https://tinyurl.com/y5r527a2L368[20:03:04] <Neuro>
alt: "You can find a perfect correlation if you just control
for the residual."
<Neuro>
alt: "You can find a perfect correlation if you just control
for the residual."L369[20:03:32] <prisma> %xkcd
L370[20:03:33] <MichiBot> Random XKCD
Comic: https://dynamic.xkcd.com/random/comic/
L371[20:03:35] <prisma> Oh
L372[20:03:37] <prisma> Doesn't support
latest
L373[20:04:03] <prisma> %ckd 2560
L374[20:04:06] <prisma> %xkcd 2560
L375[20:04:06] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Confounding Variables URL: https://xkcd.com/2560
L376[20:04:07] <prisma> There we go
L377[20:04:21] <Neuro> I
was about to try lol
<Neuro> I
was about to try lolL378[20:05:07] <Neuro> the
random one it picked is also a pretty good one lol
<Neuro> the
random one it picked is also a pretty good one lolL379[20:34:44] <Forecaster> ew, I landed right in the
bacteria D:
<Forecaster> ew, I landed right in the
bacteria D:L381[20:35:35] ⇦
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L382[20:35:54] <Michiyo>
Whoops
<Michiyo>
WhoopsL383[20:36:02] <Michiyo>
better throw some antibiotics at it.
<Michiyo>
better throw some antibiotics at it.L384[20:41:41] <Amanda> What game is that,
Forecaster
L385[20:41:48] <Forecaster> Elite
<Forecaster> EliteL386[20:41:52] <Amanda> ah
L387[20:47:48] <Amanda> %choose lakeside
base or keep using the original landing pad
L388[20:47:49] <MichiBot> Amanda: Out of
these two choices? I'd say "keep using the original landing
pad".
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L391[21:31:10] <Amanda> Blargh, who went
and ran off with all my spoons?
L392[21:32:07] <Forecaster> probably MichiBot
<Forecaster> probably MichiBotL393[21:32:17] <Amanda> %boop
MichiBot
L394[21:32:17] <MichiBot> You boop
MichiBot on the snoot.
L395[21:32:21] <Forecaster> %give MichiBot one of
Amanda's spoons
<Forecaster> %give MichiBot one of
Amanda's spoonsL396[21:32:21] <Amanda> bad bot
L397[21:32:21] *
MichiBot accepts one of Amanda's spoons and adds it to her
inventory
L398[21:34:09] <Amanda> rude!
L399[21:44:20] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL400[21:44:20] <MichiBot> You drink a
fiery gold potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! It
sent a message to all of Forecaster's friends telling them that
they love them!
L401[21:44:31] <Forecaster> dangit
<Forecaster> dangitL402[21:50:34] <Forecaster> hm, I need a new ship name
now
<Forecaster> hm, I need a new ship name
nowL403[21:55:17] <Amanda> Such water, very
wow:
L404[21:55:34] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/YduONdQfvqDsGNgnXJTMElkD/383120_20211228160000_1.png
L405[21:55:57] <Izaya> nice force
field
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L408[22:33:15] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
Skye: 'Labour’s David Lammy apologises for nominating Jeremy Corbyn
to be leader' “I never believed he would become leader. That was a
mistake and I am sorry for that.”
L409[23:01:12] <Izaya> CompanionCube: is
UK politics real
L410[23:17:51] <Neuro>
thats not even news
<Neuro>
thats not even newsL411[23:17:58] <Neuro>
everybody knew the nomination was a joke from the start
<Neuro>
everybody knew the nomination was a joke from the startL412[23:36:51] *
Amanda flops down around Elfi, meows to her about this great new
concrete platform she put next to a lake
L413[23:44:02] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL414[23:44:03] <MichiBot> Yay!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 4
hours, 54 minutes and 12 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L415[23:44:04] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 4 hours, 54 minutes and 12 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.0049)
L416[23:58:12] <Vaur>
%tonksnipe red Forecaster
<Vaur>
%tonksnipe red ForecasterL417[23:58:12] <MichiBot> Vaur: You can't
target this user right now. Try again in 5 hours, 46 minutes and 1
second.