L1[00:04:32] ⇨
Joins: cmmc (~cmmc@24.55.116.104)
L2[00:07:07] ⇦
Quits: cmmc (~cmmc@24.55.116.104) (Client Quit)
L3[00:28:04] ⇦
Quits: Inari (~Pinkishu@p4fe7e93b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Read error:
Connection reset by peer)
L4[00:28:20] ⇨
Joins: S|h|a|w|n
(~shawn156@c-76-25-73-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
L6[01:02:22] ⇦
Quits: S|h|a|w|n (~shawn156@c-76-25-73-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
(Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L7[01:05:21] ⇦
Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@port-92-192-6-121.dynamic.as20676.net)
(Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L8[01:06:13] ⇨
Joins: S|h|a|w|n
(~shawn156@c-76-25-73-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
L9[01:06:40] ⇦
Quits: S|h|a|w|n (~shawn156@c-76-25-73-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
(Client Quit)
L10[01:06:49] ⇨
Joins: S|h|a|w|n
(~shawn156@c-76-25-73-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
L11[01:13:47] 
<Michiyo>
>Kristopher38: well well well, what could this be
<Michiyo>
>Kristopher38: well well well, what could this beL12[01:13:47] <Michiyo> A
screenshot of some code.
<Michiyo> A
screenshot of some code.L13[01:13:59] <Michiyo>
:P
<Michiyo>
:PL14[01:18:30] <Amanda> %choose rain box or
continue in space
L15[01:18:30] <MichiBot> Amanda: My
grandfather always told me that "continue in space" is
the way to go!
L16[01:18:44] <Amanda> hrm, rain box.
L17[02:29:46] ⇦
Quits: ben_mkiv|afk
(~ben_mkiv@2001:16b8:14c2:8e00:fe34:97ff:fea9:75f2) (Quit:
Leaving)
L18[02:48:26] ⇦
Quits: Michiyo (~Michiyo@50.38.53.215) (Ping timeout: 189
seconds)
L19[03:00:21] ⇨
Joins: Michiyo (~Michiyo@50.38.53.215)
L20[03:00:21] zsh
sets mode: +o on Michiyo
L21[03:23:13] <Ocawesome101> @Kristopher38 nice
<Ocawesome101> @Kristopher38 niceL22[03:45:57] ⇦
Quits: Michiyo (~Michiyo@50.38.53.215) (Read error: -0x1: UNKNOWN
ERROR CODE (0001))
L23[03:52:24] <Amanda> %remindme 10h dump
the switch
L24[03:52:25] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"dump the switch" in 10h at 12/27/2021 01:52:24 PM
L25[03:54:37] *
Amanda snuggles up around elfi, yawns and veg's out to
YouTube's
L26[04:43:14] *
Amanda looks at elfi, looks at a long-range potato dropping device
confiscate from the foxes, looks at a potato. Decides it'd be
better to just curl up and zzzmew
L27[04:43:42] *
Amanda offers elfi a tail blanket, curls up and
zzzmews
L28[04:43:47] <Amanda> Night nerds
L29[04:43:57] * Elfi
climbs under tail and zzz
L30[07:06:34] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL31[07:06:35] <MichiBot> Geez! Vaur! You
beat Forecaster's previous record of 2 hours, 36 minutes and 46
seconds (By 5 hours, 41 minutes and 38 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L32[07:06:36] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record
is 8 hours, 18 minutes and 25 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.01707
(0.00569 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need
0.15067507 more points to pass Forecaster!
L33[07:55:32] ⇨
Joins: BCcomputer1 (~BCcompute@1.156.248.39)
L34[07:56:14] ⇦
Quits: BCcomputer1 (~BCcompute@1.156.248.39) (Client
Quit)
L35[07:56:36] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL36[07:56:37] <MichiBot> You drink a warpy
caterium potion (New!). The bottle turns into an adamantium
spear.
L37[08:47:22] ⇦
Quits: Hawk777 (~chead@2607:c000:8275:d900:a47f:7587:281d:e303)
(Quit: Leaving.)
L38[09:12:41] ⇨
Joins: Michiyo (~Michiyo@50.38.53.215)
L39[09:12:41] zsh
sets mode: +o on Michiyo
L40[10:06:11] ⇦
Quits: S|h|a|w|n (~shawn156@c-76-25-73-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
(Read error: -0x1: UNKNOWN ERROR CODE (0001))
L41[10:09:03] ⇨
Joins: baschdel
(~baschdel@2a02:6d40:367a:5201:e9ce:c459:ce79:2625)
L42[11:05:57] ⇦
Quits: baschdel (~baschdel@2a02:6d40:367a:5201:e9ce:c459:ce79:2625)
(Ping timeout: 189 seconds)
L43[11:16:37] ⇨
Joins: Vexatos
(~Vexatos@port-92-192-6-121.dynamic.as20676.net)
L44[11:16:37] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L45[11:50:02] ⇨
Joins: Inari (~Pinkishu@p508ef0be.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
L46[12:39:34] ⇨
Joins: baschdel
(~baschdel@2a02:6d40:367a:5201:e9ce:c459:ce79:2625)
L47[12:54:06] <Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 Wth, this code is awful...
<Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 Wth, this code is awful...L48[12:54:12] <Z0idberg>
is it generated?
<Z0idberg>
is it generated?L49[12:54:50] <Z0idberg>
It looks generated
<Z0idberg>
It looks generatedL50[13:03:51] <Amanda> The if breakpoint...
Part is, they were talking about manipulating lua ASTs
L51[13:11:46] <Amanda> At least, that's
what I assume
L52[13:24:07] <Kristopher38> >Z0idberg: It looks
generated
<Kristopher38> >Z0idberg: It looks
generatedL53[13:24:07] <Kristopher38> Well, yeah
<Kristopher38> Well, yeahL54[13:38:52] <Kristopher38> The plan is to have
single-step debugging capabilities inside of OC
<Kristopher38> The plan is to have
single-step debugging capabilities inside of OCL55[13:51:50] <Z0idberg>
Hmmmm.
<Z0idberg>
Hmmmm.L56[13:52:25] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
dump the switch
L57[13:52:36] <Z0idberg>
I wonder if there's a better way to do that, but it would be very
useful regardless
<Z0idberg>
I wonder if there's a better way to do that, but it would be very
useful regardlessL58[13:53:11] <Kristopher38> depends on what you call
"better"
<Kristopher38> depends on what you call
"better"L59[13:53:53] <Kristopher38> you could emulate an entire
Lua VM and execute bytecode, I've done that but it's a lot of work
to get it run bug-free
<Kristopher38> you could emulate an entire
Lua VM and execute bytecode, I've done that but it's a lot of work
to get it run bug-freeL60[13:54:16] <Kristopher38> on the other hand the
screenshot above only took me a few evenings
<Kristopher38> on the other hand the
screenshot above only took me a few eveningsL61[13:54:55] <Kristopher38> i'm open for ideas
though
<Kristopher38> i'm open for ideas
thoughL62[14:01:07] <Amanda> I mean, ideally the
generated code won't even be shown to the user at any point, just
generated in memory then "load()"'d
L63[14:01:15] <Amanda> so it's not like it
matters mucn
L64[14:01:51] <Kristopher38> yeah
<Kristopher38> yeahL65[14:03:47] <Z0idberg>
It can matter when debugging the debugger though
<Z0idberg>
It can matter when debugging the debugger thoughL66[14:05:05] <Z0idberg>
I wonder how I would do it if I made one. That'd be a cool
project
<Z0idberg>
I wonder how I would do it if I made one. That'd be a cool
projectL67[14:06:32] <Z0idberg>
I wonder if I could abuse coroutines to achieve a similar
solution
<Z0idberg>
I wonder if I could abuse coroutines to achieve a similar
solutionL68[14:08:01] <Kristopher38> the debugged program could
very well be a coroutine and the inserted `krisDebug` call could
call coroutine.yield
<Kristopher38> the debugged program could
very well be a coroutine and the inserted `krisDebug` call could
call coroutine.yieldL69[14:08:08] <Kristopher38> to yield to the
debugger
<Kristopher38> to yield to the
debuggerL70[14:08:32] <Kristopher38> that's the approach i'm
taking in fact
<Kristopher38> that's the approach i'm
taking in factL71[14:09:25] <Z0idberg>
Yes absolutely
<Z0idberg>
Yes absolutelyL72[14:12:24] <Z0idberg>
But also just for unnecessary elegance, I think if would be cool to
build a lua parser and compile it into an AST and run it, like a VM
but not a bytecode one of course. Actually you know you don't even
need to parse it, you could make it into an AST of plaintext code
chunks if you wanted
<Z0idberg>
But also just for unnecessary elegance, I think if would be cool to
build a lua parser and compile it into an AST and run it, like a VM
but not a bytecode one of course. Actually you know you don't even
need to parse it, you could make it into an AST of plaintext code
chunks if you wantedL73[14:12:57] ⇦
Quits: baschdel (~baschdel@2a02:6d40:367a:5201:e9ce:c459:ce79:2625)
(Ping timeout: 189 seconds)
L74[14:18:59] <Z0idberg>
I could forsee an AST being kind of slow. Maybe. Though the nice
thing about an AST is that you can rearrange the code during
runtime easily which is kinda nice.
<Z0idberg>
I could forsee an AST being kind of slow. Maybe. Though the nice
thing about an AST is that you can rearrange the code during
runtime easily which is kinda nice.L75[14:20:39] <Z0idberg>
You could even have the debugger watch the file for changes and
recompile the AST at runtime
<Z0idberg>
You could even have the debugger watch the file for changes and
recompile the AST at runtimeL76[14:20:54] <Z0idberg>
so edits to the file would just magically update the running
code
<Z0idberg>
so edits to the file would just magically update the running
codeL77[14:21:34] <Z0idberg>
Granted it would need a fallback method if the code is undone in a
way that it absolutely breaks it
<Z0idberg>
Granted it would need a fallback method if the code is undone in a
way that it absolutely breaks itL78[14:37:44] ⇨
Joins: baschdel
(~baschdel@2a02:6d40:367a:5201:e9ce:c459:ce79:2625)
L79[14:47:05] <Kristopher38> Yeah you could totally
execute by traversing the AST
<Kristopher38> Yeah you could totally
execute by traversing the ASTL80[14:48:34] <Kristopher38> The reason most interpreted
langs use bytecode instead is for performance reasons, or so am I
told, executing the AST is just slower
<Kristopher38> The reason most interpreted
langs use bytecode instead is for performance reasons, or so am I
told, executing the AST is just slowerL81[14:48:58] <Kristopher38> The reason most interpreted
langs use bytecode instead is for performance reasons, or so I am
told, executing the AST is just slower [Edited]
<Kristopher38> The reason most interpreted
langs use bytecode instead is for performance reasons, or so I am
told, executing the AST is just slower [Edited]L82[14:50:07] <Kristopher38> So your assumption is
right
<Kristopher38> So your assumption is
rightL83[14:53:46] <Kristopher38> Rearranging the AST during
runtime would be like magic, I like the concept, but the ast-vm
would face similar challenges as the bytecode one imo
<Kristopher38> Rearranging the AST during
runtime would be like magic, I like the concept, but the ast-vm
would face similar challenges as the bytecode one imoL84[15:00:15] ⇦
Quits: baschdel (~baschdel@2a02:6d40:367a:5201:e9ce:c459:ce79:2625)
(Ping timeout: 189 seconds)
L85[16:11:52] <Forecaster> hm, one of these things is
not like the others... https://tinyurl.com/y2srr7zd
<Forecaster> hm, one of these things is
not like the others... https://tinyurl.com/y2srr7zdL86[16:12:52] <Z0idberg>
Wut
<Z0idberg>
WutL87[16:31:26] <Ocawesome101> The redstone IO block is
fixed!
<Ocawesome101> The redstone IO block is
fixed!L88[16:32:29] <Forecaster> why isn't it translating this
one episode... >:
<Forecaster> why isn't it translating this
one episode... >:L89[16:37:45] ⇨
Joins: ben_mkiv
(~ben_mkiv@2001:16b8:14c2:8e00:fe34:97ff:fea9:75f2)
L90[16:39:11] ⇦
Quits: ThePiGuy24 (~ThePiGuy2@host-92-31-106-206.as13285.net) (Ping
timeout: 195 seconds)
L91[16:46:58] <Kristopher38> @Ocawesome101 you fixed
it?
<Kristopher38> @Ocawesome101 you fixed
it?L92[16:47:08] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
Alex birthday
L93[16:50:32] <Michiyo>
>Kristopher38: <@563866872702042132> you fixed it?
<Michiyo>
>Kristopher38: <@563866872702042132> you fixed it?L94[16:50:32] <Michiyo> I
asked Sangar to merge 3449
<Michiyo> I
asked Sangar to merge 3449L95[16:50:46] <Kristopher38> Ah
<Kristopher38> AhL96[17:03:06] <Neuro>
>Ocawesome101: The redstone IO block is fixed!
<Neuro>
>Ocawesome101: The redstone IO block is fixed!L97[17:03:06] <Neuro>
Olé, Olé, Olé Olé Olé!
<Neuro>
Olé, Olé, Olé Olé Olé!L98[17:24:09] ⇦
Quits: ben_mkiv (~ben_mkiv@2001:16b8:14c2:8e00:fe34:97ff:fea9:75f2)
(Ping timeout: 192 seconds)
L99[17:25:38] <Vaur>
%tonkout
<Vaur>
%tonkoutL100[17:25:39] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
Vaur! You beat your own previous record of 8 hours, 18 minutes and
25 seconds (By 2 hours and 38 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L101[17:25:40] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.01 tonk points! plus 0.018
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 4.34520667,
Position #2 Need 0.12267507 more points to pass Forecaster!
L102[17:34:39]
⇨ Joins: Hawk777
(~chead@2607:c000:8275:d900:6acb:c1e8:c7b:d660)
L103[17:49:28] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL104[17:49:28] <MichiBot> You drink a
solid tomato potion (New!). A genie appears out of the empty
bottle, turns it into a pie, then vanishes.
L105[18:02:46] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL106[18:02:46] <MichiBot> You drink a
woolly rock potion (New!). Gravity reverses for Vaur until they
have some bacon.
L107[18:03:04]
⇨ Joins: ben_mkiv
(~ben_mkiv@2001:16b8:1e3f:6e00:fe34:97ff:fea9:75f2)
L108[18:37:31] ⇦
Quits: Fridtjof (~fridel@thonk.9net.org) (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
L109[18:37:31] ⇦
Quits: Stary (~Stary@thonk.9net.org) (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
L110[18:37:31] ⇦
Quits: CompanionCube (~samis@thonk.9net.org) (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)
L111[19:23:01]
⇨ Joins: Stary (~Stary@thonk.9net.org)
L112[19:29:50]
⇨ Joins: Fridtjof (~fridel@thonk.9net.org)
L113[19:32:42]
⇨ Joins: CompanionCube (~samis@thonk.9net.org)
L114[19:35:10]
⇨ Joins: baschdel
(~baschdel@2a02:6d40:367a:5201:e9ce:c459:ce79:2625)
L115[19:43:05] ⇦
Parts: lunar_sam (c44a7f2987@2a00:c70:1:178:170:40:189:1)
())
L116[19:43:12]
⇨ Joins: lunar_sam
(c44a7f2987@2a00:c70:1:178:170:40:189:1)
L117[20:14:54] ⇦
Parts: lunar_sam (c44a7f2987@2a00:c70:1:178:170:40:189:1)
())
L118[20:14:57]
⇨ Joins: lunar_sam (c44a7f2987@jabberfr.org)
L119[20:20:01] <Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 I've been writing down ideas of how an AST compiler
debugger would work with Lua, lol
<Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 I've been writing down ideas of how an AST compiler
debugger would work with Lua, lolL120[20:20:34] <Kristopher38> I'm curious to hear
them
<Kristopher38> I'm curious to hear
themL121[20:20:45] <Z0idberg>
I'm not telling you that you should do so, I was just curious
<Z0idberg>
I'm not telling you that you should do so, I was just curiousL122[20:21:43] <Kristopher38> I'm not planning to, just
out curiosity since it's an area I know something about lol
<Kristopher38> I'm not planning to, just
out curiosity since it's an area I know something about lolL123[20:28:26] <Kristopher38> And I might get some cool
idea for my debugger
<Kristopher38> And I might get some cool
idea for my debuggerL124[20:36:00] <Z0idberg>
Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/odeniwisob
<Z0idberg>
Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/odeniwisobL125[20:36:11] <Z0idberg>
But that is if I wanted to go full VM
<Z0idberg>
But that is if I wanted to go full VML126[20:36:29] <Z0idberg>
another option is to do something similar, but instead put lines
with separable variable names and function calls, etc
<Z0idberg>
another option is to do something similar, but instead put lines
with separable variable names and function calls, etcL127[20:36:50] <Z0idberg>
it would improve performance a little but wouldn't be as
powerful
<Z0idberg>
it would improve performance a little but wouldn't be as
powerfulL128[20:37:12] <Z0idberg>
That IS neat about a full AST like VM is that you don't even have
to VM it.
<Z0idberg>
That IS neat about a full AST like VM is that you don't even have
to VM it.L129[20:37:33] <Z0idberg>
I could decompile into an AST above like that, inject what I want,
and then recompile my AST into pure Lua
<Z0idberg>
I could decompile into an AST above like that, inject what I want,
and then recompile my AST into pure LuaL130[20:37:47] <Z0idberg>
it would remove all of the odd conditions and steps
<Z0idberg>
it would remove all of the odd conditions and stepsL131[20:37:54] <Z0idberg>
and improve performance
<Z0idberg>
and improve performanceL132[20:38:02] <Z0idberg>
it would be kind of like a dynamic recompiler? I guess.
<Z0idberg>
it would be kind of like a dynamic recompiler? I guess.L133[20:38:23] <Z0idberg>
from there I could load()
<Z0idberg>
from there I could load()L134[20:39:19] <Z0idberg>
And if the braces don't line up it's because I didn't count them
well.
<Z0idberg>
And if the braces don't line up it's because I didn't count them
well.L135[20:39:55] <Z0idberg>
For a recompiler to work I would not be able to store function
references
<Z0idberg>
For a recompiler to work I would not be able to store function
referencesL136[20:40:01] <Z0idberg>
I'd have to macro those too
<Z0idberg>
I'd have to macro those tooL137[20:41:34] <Kristopher38> >Z0idberg: I could
decompile into an AST above like tha…
<Kristopher38> >Z0idberg: I could
decompile into an AST above like tha…L138[20:41:34] <Kristopher38> Yeah but you'd need to
either have some way of splitting the code into blocks (basic
blocks maybe?) to be able to modify running program on the fly, or
fully rerun the program after making changes
<Kristopher38> Yeah but you'd need to
either have some way of splitting the code into blocks (basic
blocks maybe?) to be able to modify running program on the fly, or
fully rerun the program after making changesL139[20:41:59] <Z0idberg>
yeah, that's what codeblock does
<Z0idberg>
yeah, that's what codeblock doesL140[20:42:06] <Z0idberg>
I got the idea from how Elixir does its AST
<Z0idberg>
I got the idea from how Elixir does its ASTL141[20:42:20] <Z0idberg>
in Elixir, your code compiles to an AST, and macros allow you to
modify the AST at runtime
<Z0idberg>
in Elixir, your code compiles to an AST, and macros allow you to
modify the AST at runtimeL142[20:42:24] <Z0idberg>
so for example:
<Z0idberg>
so for example:L144[20:42:49] <Z0idberg>
quote do compiles code btw, and converts it to an AST
<Z0idberg>
quote do compiles code btw, and converts it to an ASTL145[20:43:45] <Z0idberg>
so I could do something similar, inject it with a bunch of shit
like line number information, etc then decompile the AST back into
Lua, injecting some lines of code that do things like present the
line number meta data and scope variables, etc.
<Z0idberg>
so I could do something similar, inject it with a bunch of shit
like line number information, etc then decompile the AST back into
Lua, injecting some lines of code that do things like present the
line number meta data and scope variables, etc.L146[20:44:16] <Z0idberg>
and it would then lack all of the strange conditional issues, as I
could probably wrap each function body with an assert or some shit
and catch all to the debugger
<Z0idberg>
and it would then lack all of the strange conditional issues, as I
could probably wrap each function body with an assert or some shit
and catch all to the debuggerL147[20:44:37] <Z0idberg>
or do some sort of breakpoint sectioning without having to check
each line.
<Z0idberg>
or do some sort of breakpoint sectioning without having to check
each line.L148[20:45:13] <Z0idberg>
The other cool thing I could do with this is turn the debugger into
a dialyzer.
<Z0idberg>
The other cool thing I could do with this is turn the debugger into
a dialyzer.L149[20:47:23] <Z0idberg>
So you could make it so that your OC editor told you when you were
calling functions and passing it too many values, or not enough,
before it even ran, let you know about table data that will return
null at runtime in some oddball loop, etc.
<Z0idberg>
So you could make it so that your OC editor told you when you were
calling functions and passing it too many values, or not enough,
before it even ran, let you know about table data that will return
null at runtime in some oddball loop, etc.L150[20:47:45] <Z0idberg>
I hate dialyzers though
<Z0idberg>
I hate dialyzers thoughL151[20:52:09] <Kristopher38> >Z0idberg: so I could do
something similar, inject it w…
<Kristopher38> >Z0idberg: so I could do
something similar, inject it w…L152[20:52:10] <Kristopher38> I get that, that's what I'm
essentially doing; What I'm asking is where do you split your
blocks of code, since you want to be able to replace them on the
fly
<Kristopher38> I get that, that's what I'm
essentially doing; What I'm asking is where do you split your
blocks of code, since you want to be able to replace them on the
flyL153[20:54:41] <Z0idberg>
You wouldn't be able to do anything catastrophic. In my example
{"codeblock, {args}} args is just a list of code blocks. When
a file edit is made, you would still have to recompile the AST. You
would need to keep track of where you are, and if there was an
issue, you'd probably have to back out into the debugger and stop
the program.
<Z0idberg>
You wouldn't be able to do anything catastrophic. In my example
{"codeblock, {args}} args is just a list of code blocks. When
a file edit is made, you would still have to recompile the AST. You
would need to keep track of where you are, and if there was an
issue, you'd probably have to back out into the debugger and stop
the program.L154[21:11:05] <Kristopher38> okay, let me try to grasp
the whole scenario that would play out: I edit a file, recompile
the AST, and now how are the changes applied to an already-running
program
<Kristopher38> okay, let me try to grasp
the whole scenario that would play out: I edit a file, recompile
the AST, and now how are the changes applied to an already-running
programL155[21:11:58] <Kristopher38> since you want to recompile
your AST back into Lua for more performance
<Kristopher38> since you want to recompile
your AST back into Lua for more performanceL156[21:13:10] <Kristopher38> unless we're talking about
not recompiling back to lua and just running the AST
<Kristopher38> unless we're talking about
not recompiling back to lua and just running the ASTL157[21:23:56] ⇦
Parts: lunar_sam (c44a7f2987@jabberfr.org) ())
L158[21:24:04]
⇨ Joins: lunar_sam
(c44a7f2987@2a00:c70:1:178:170:40:189:1)
L159[21:53:47]
⇨ Joins: ThePatmann (~ThePatman@47.187.192.129)
L160[21:54:34] ⇦
Parts: lunar_sam (c44a7f2987@2a00:c70:1:178:170:40:189:1)
())
L161[21:55:02]
⇨ Joins: lunar_sam (c44a7f2987@jabberfr.org)
L162[21:55:07] <ThePatmann> Quick
Question: The version of Lua that my OpenComputers computers boot
in by default is Lua 5.2, how can I change the version of lua they
boot with?
L163[21:55:20] <Forecaster> use the cpu
<Forecaster> use the cpuL164[21:55:47] <Michiyo> Recent versions
of OC use 5.3 by default. If you want to change the default for all
new CPUs there is a config entry
L165[21:56:09] <ThePatmann> TYSM
L166[21:57:03] <Michiyo>
"defaultLua53=true"
L167[21:57:29] <ThePatmann> No clue why my
modpack has that false... Fixing that now!
L168[21:58:24] <Michiyo> well, depending
on the mod version that may have been default?
L169[21:59:26] <Z0idberg>
>Kristopher38: unless we're talking about *not* recompi…
<Z0idberg>
>Kristopher38: unless we're talking about *not* recompi…L170[21:59:26] <Z0idberg>
So that's what you meant. For that you would need to either rub the
last directly like you said or do some sort of multi chunk magic of
transferring state or something
<Z0idberg>
So that's what you meant. For that you would need to either rub the
last directly like you said or do some sort of multi chunk magic of
transferring state or somethingL171[21:59:39] ⇦
Parts: lunar_sam (c44a7f2987@jabberfr.org) ())
L172[21:59:43] <Z0idberg>
Run the ast directly*
<Z0idberg>
Run the ast directly*L173[22:00:03]
⇨ Joins: lunar_sam
(c44a7f2987@2a00:c70:1:178:170:40:189:1)
L174[22:00:05] <Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 it is usually safer to just start from the
beginning
<Z0idberg>
@Kristopher38 it is usually safer to just start from the
beginningL175[22:00:33] <lunar_sam> \o/ i got mms
working on the pinephone
L176[22:01:39] <lunar_sam> chatty is
eating shit now tho
L177[22:01:53] <Z0idberg>
N7uuu
<Z0idberg>
N7uuuL178[22:02:06] ⇦
Parts: lunar_sam (c44a7f2987@2a00:c70:1:178:170:40:189:1)
())
L179[22:02:14] <Z0idberg>
Nuuuuuu @lunar_sam don't do it
<Z0idberg>
Nuuuuuu @lunar_sam don't do itL180[22:02:21] <Z0idberg>
It's a trap
<Z0idberg>
It's a trapL181[22:03:11]
⇨ Joins: lunar_sam (c44a7f2987@jabberfr.org)
L182[22:03:14] <Izaya> what is?
L183[22:04:03] <Z0idberg>
Smartphones
<Z0idberg>
SmartphonesL184[22:04:17] <Izaya> oh. yeah.
L185[22:05:27] <Z0idberg>
I don't like how society views me as insignificant because I would
rather not have one, even though I don't care a lot about what
anyone else thinks.
<Z0idberg>
I don't like how society views me as insignificant because I would
rather not have one, even though I don't care a lot about what
anyone else thinks.L186[22:05:53] <Z0idberg>
The whole bandwagon is required concept is not good.
<Z0idberg>
The whole bandwagon is required concept is not good.L187[22:06:12] ⇦
Quits: ThePatmann (~ThePatman@47.187.192.129) (Quit:
ThePatmann)
L188[22:07:28] <Izaya> zswap is breddy
cool
L189[22:07:38] <Izaya> like zramswap but
not super jank
L190[22:10:27] <Z0idberg>
EVERY TIME
<Z0idberg>
EVERY TIMEL191[22:11:24] <Z0idberg>
every time I sit in Em's car lol to start it I reach for the clutch
and there Is none
<Z0idberg>
every time I sit in Em's car lol to start it I reach for the clutch
and there Is noneL192[22:12:02] <Z0idberg>
Instead there's a parking brake there
<Z0idberg>
Instead there's a parking brake thereL193[22:12:52] <Izaya> did I tell you I
got an XT250?
L194[22:12:54] <Z0idberg>
I'm surprised I haven't stomped on the parking brake when stopping
at intersections
<Z0idberg>
I'm surprised I haven't stomped on the parking brake when stopping
at intersectionsL195[22:12:59] <Z0idberg>
Oooooooooh
<Z0idberg>
OoooooooohL196[22:13:02] <Izaya> because I got an
XT250
L197[22:13:10] <Izaya> and it's the
opposite of my ZZR250
L198[22:13:30] <Z0idberg>
Pics or it didn't happen lol
<Z0idberg>
Pics or it didn't happen lolL199[22:14:07] <Izaya> so where I'd
normally take off on my ZZR250 by revving it, lightly applying some
rear brake, slowly letting the clutch out, then when I feel it
pushing, release the brake
L200[22:14:21] <Izaya> on the XT250 I have
to idle it as I slowly let out the clutch because it's all fuckin
torque
L201[22:14:54] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/tmp/EUc3.jpg
L202[22:15:04] <Z0idberg>
Ooh!
<Z0idberg>
Ooh!L203[22:17:11] <Izaya> split the cost
50/50 with my sister so it cost me $1600
L204[22:17:29] <Izaya> (I paid for my half
by dumping dogecoin while she paid for her half by selling off some
snakes. living the meme.)
L205[22:21:07] <lunar_sam>
>Z0idberg: Nuuuuuu <@175686996461617162> don't do it
<lunar_sam>
>Z0idberg: Nuuuuuu <@175686996461617162> don't do itL206[22:21:08] <lunar_sam>
pinephone good tho :(
<lunar_sam>
pinephone good tho :(L207[22:21:23] <lunar_sam>
like a tiny linux pc in my pocket
<lunar_sam>
like a tiny linux pc in my pocketL208[22:21:48] <lunar_sam>
need a slide out keyboard so i can work on tsukinet on the go
<lunar_sam>
need a slide out keyboard so i can work on tsukinet on the goL209[22:22:42] <Elfi> Having a proper
keyboard is nice, makes it an actual communication device rather
than one of consumption
L210[22:22:52] <Elfi> Makes me wish the
Galaxy S Relay 4G wasn't a one-off
L211[22:22:57] <Izaya> keyboard addon
should be out soon(TM) if it isn't already
L212[22:23:00] <Elfi> god that was the
best keyboard I've ever seen
L213[22:24:28] <Ocawesome101> izaya: keyboard addon is
indeed out
<Ocawesome101> izaya: keyboard addon is
indeed outL214[22:24:47] <Ocawesome101> @lunar_sam the pine64
keyboard addon isn't slide-out but i hear it's decent
<Ocawesome101> @lunar_sam the pine64
keyboard addon isn't slide-out but i hear it's decentL215[22:25:08] <lunar_sam>
slide out
<lunar_sam>
slide outL216[22:25:12] <lunar_sam>
REQUIRED
<lunar_sam>
REQUIREDL217[22:25:29] <lunar_sam>
flip out stinky
<lunar_sam>
flip out stinkyL218[22:26:00] <Inari> Elfi: Well you can
thumb-type on a screen keyboard too, and unless your phone lags
seems about the same as a tiny keyboard
L219[22:26:17] <Izaya> I don't see it on
the store
L220[22:26:36] <lunar_sam>
slide out enables me to both hold it like a phone and actually type
and have screen space
<lunar_sam>
slide out enables me to both hold it like a phone and actually type
and have screen spaceL221[22:26:45] <lunar_sam>
depending on what i want
<lunar_sam>
depending on what i wantL222[22:26:53] <Elfi> Oh god no, screen
keyboards have no tactile feedback
L223[22:27:16] <lunar_sam>
does the pinephone have a forward facing proximity sensor?
<lunar_sam>
does the pinephone have a forward facing proximity sensor?L224[22:27:18] <Ocawesome101> tactile feedback is chef's
kiss
<Ocawesome101> tactile feedback is chef's
kissL225[22:27:28] <Ocawesome101> @lunar_sam like on the
screen side? or the other side?
<Ocawesome101> @lunar_sam like on the
screen side? or the other side?L226[22:27:38] <Ocawesome101> @lunar_sam like on the
screen side? or the camera side? [Edited]
<Ocawesome101> @lunar_sam like on the
screen side? or the camera side? [Edited]L227[22:27:43] <lunar_sam>
screen side
<lunar_sam>
screen sideL228[22:27:45] <Ocawesome101> yes
<Ocawesome101> yesL229[22:27:59] <Elfi> More than that,
tactile feedback is paramount to a viable keyboard that doesn't
need autocorrect
L230[22:28:08] <Ocawesome101> yes that
<Ocawesome101> yes thatL231[22:28:36] <Amanda> Oh, the keyboard
is actually out now?
L232[22:28:49] <lunar_sam>
>Ocawesome101: yes
<lunar_sam>
>Ocawesome101: yesL233[22:28:49] <lunar_sam>
wish the phone would use it then >->
<lunar_sam>
wish the phone would use it then >->L234[22:29:03] <Ocawesome101> it's finicky but it does
indeed work
<Ocawesome101> it's finicky but it does
indeed workL235[22:29:04] <lunar_sam>
amount of times i hung up by accident is just
<lunar_sam>
amount of times i hung up by accident is justL236[22:29:09] <lunar_sam>
gah fucking aaaaa
<lunar_sam>
gah fucking aaaaaL237[22:29:09] <Ocawesome101> you have to get really
close to it
<Ocawesome101> you have to get really
close to itL238[22:29:20] <lunar_sam>
it's on my fuckin ear
<lunar_sam>
it's on my fuckin earL239[22:29:25] <Ocawesome101> i assume there's a way to
adjust it but i don't know what that way is
<Ocawesome101> i assume there's a way to
adjust it but i don't know what that way isL240[22:30:14] <Izaya> > PP(P) keyboard
available early Jan 2022
L241[22:30:14] <lunar_sam>
damn
<lunar_sam>
damnL242[22:30:23] <lunar_sam>
also it likes to turn on in my pocket which is
<lunar_sam>
also it likes to turn on in my pocket which isL243[22:30:26] <lunar_sam>
infinitely annoying
<lunar_sam>
infinitely annoyingL244[22:30:26] <Izaya> not yet but
almost
L245[22:30:44] <Izaya> exciting
L246[22:31:04] <lunar_sam>
also
<lunar_sam>
alsoL247[22:31:07] <lunar_sam>
VVM works
<lunar_sam>
VVM worksL248[22:31:09] <lunar_sam>
:D
<lunar_sam>
:DL249[22:32:10] <lunar_sam>
but yeah
<lunar_sam>
but yeahL250[22:32:19] <lunar_sam>
once i get a 3D printer and all
<lunar_sam>
once i get a 3D printer and allL251[22:32:32] <Amanda> Voxel Virtual
Machine?
L252[22:32:38] <lunar_sam>
i want to make a funny slide out keyboard
<lunar_sam>
i want to make a funny slide out keyboardL253[22:32:42] <lunar_sam>
visual voice mail
<lunar_sam>
visual voice mailL254[22:32:51] <Amanda> I see
L255[22:33:29] <lunar_sam>
i'm too lazy to use the normal voice mail
<lunar_sam>
i'm too lazy to use the normal voice mailL256[22:33:30] <lunar_sam>
lol
<lunar_sam>
lolL257[22:34:02] <lunar_sam>
but yeah, i have a few minor annoyances with the pinephone
but
<lunar_sam>
but yeah, i have a few minor annoyances with the pinephone
butL258[22:34:04] <lunar_sam>
all together
<lunar_sam>
all togetherL259[22:34:05] <Ocawesome101> what's the difference? i'm
not clear on that
<Ocawesome101> what's the difference? i'm
not clear on thatL260[22:34:11] <lunar_sam>
8/10 worth it
<lunar_sam>
8/10 worth itL261[22:34:21] <Ocawesome101> also: arch + plasma has
gotten much better since i last tried, aka it's actually good
now
<Ocawesome101> also: arch + plasma has
gotten much better since i last tried, aka it's actually good
nowL262[22:34:29] <lunar_sam>
VVM means i don't have to call up the voicemail number
<lunar_sam>
VVM means i don't have to call up the voicemail numberL263[22:34:31] <lunar_sam>
lol
<lunar_sam>
lolL264[22:34:31] <Ocawesome101> phosh is still faster by
virtue of having no animations though
<Ocawesome101> phosh is still faster by
virtue of having no animations thoughL265[22:34:38] <Ocawesome101> that's what i figured it
was
<Ocawesome101> that's what i figured it
wasL266[22:34:48] <Izaya> gonna install alarm
on my SD card
L267[22:34:52] <lunar_sam>
also MMS fully works on my end
<lunar_sam>
also MMS fully works on my endL268[22:34:59] <lunar_sam>
but it trashes chatty
<lunar_sam>
but it trashes chattyL269[22:35:02] <Izaya> alarm + awesomewm +
phosh utils
L270[22:35:06] <lunar_sam>
lag/10
<lunar_sam>
lag/10L271[22:35:28] <lunar_sam>
pinephone works about as well as my og stylo
<lunar_sam>
pinephone works about as well as my og styloL272[22:35:43] <lunar_sam>
that being "mostly works, but random features sometimes dont
work"
<lunar_sam>
that being "mostly works, but random features sometimes dont
work"L273[22:36:01] <Ocawesome101> MMS works rather
indifferently through spacebar
<Ocawesome101> MMS works rather
indifferently through spacebarL274[22:36:18] <Ocawesome101> i haven't yet been able to
download an attachment
<Ocawesome101> i haven't yet been able to
download an attachmentL275[22:36:46] <Ocawesome101> meanwhile i'm installing
windows 95
<Ocawesome101> meanwhile i'm installing
windows 95L276[22:38:16] <Izaya> lunar_sam:
shout-out to my sister for sending group MMS despite me repeatedly
telling her that I can't receive MMS and that it fills up my SMS
buffer until I can't receive any messages at all
L277[22:38:59] <lunar_sam>
make sure your mms settings are right
<lunar_sam>
make sure your mms settings are rightL278[22:39:04] <lunar_sam>
lol
<lunar_sam>
lolL279[22:39:16] <Izaya> I'm running a
stable version of pmOS from like 08 last year
L280[22:39:23] <Izaya> doesn't have the
software in the repos
L281[22:39:29] <Izaya> don't care enough
to update yet
L282[22:39:30] <Izaya> >.>
L283[22:40:05] <Izaya> (also, she's been
doing it for like two years, so it's a more general
complaint)
L284[22:40:30] <lunar_sam>
lol
<lunar_sam>
lolL285[22:40:41] <Izaya> other sister is
alright
L286[22:40:45] <Izaya> she sends stuff to
the XMPP room
L287[22:43:19] <lunar_sam>
nice
<lunar_sam>
niceL288[22:43:23] <lunar_sam>
ya know
<lunar_sam>
ya knowL289[22:43:30] <lunar_sam>
waydroid is still kinda pain
<lunar_sam>
waydroid is still kinda painL290[22:44:51] <Izaya> pain is in the
name, after all :^)
L291[22:46:39] <Amanda> Oh hey, totally
forgot about catgirl time
L292[22:48:00] <Amanda> I blame poor link
quality to the fox satellite network I'm -hijacking- borrowing due
to being in deep space
L293[22:49:28] <Izaya> Amanda rn: https://shadowkat.net/tmp/oBQ8.jpg
L294[22:50:25] <lunar_sam>
O U R
<lunar_sam>
O U RL295[22:51:18] <Amanda> Very deep space.
To the order oh 3M ly
L296[22:51:27] <Amanda> Of*
L297[22:51:42] <lunar_sam>
Izaya: i'm making thermobaric tank shells to exterminate
biters
<lunar_sam>
Izaya: i'm making thermobaric tank shells to exterminate
bitersL298[22:51:44] <lunar_sam>
what do
<lunar_sam>
what doL299[22:52:00] <Izaya> use your excess oil
to run flamethrowers
L300[22:52:09] <Izaya> cover your base in
flamethrowers
L301[22:52:14] <Amanda> You guys have
excess oil?
L302[22:52:22] <lunar_sam>
whoa
<lunar_sam>
whoaL303[22:52:33] <lunar_sam>
why do i hear the US national anthem
<lunar_sam>
why do i hear the US national anthemL304[22:52:41] <Izaya> I always end up
with one of the oils in significantly larger quantities than the
others
L305[22:52:59] <Amanda> Oh, oil byproducts
gen
L306[22:52:59] <lunar_sam>
i have actually made a `moat`
<lunar_sam>
i have actually made a `moat`L308[22:53:59] <Izaya> how did you make a
moat
L309[22:54:31] <lunar_sam>
waterfill
<lunar_sam>
waterfillL310[22:54:33] <Amanda> I thought you
meant crude oil, which I can never have enough of for running at
100% efficiently for anything that needs it
L311[22:54:55] <Izaya> ah I see, that used
to be water then?
L312[23:01:12] <lunar_sam>
i need to take a nee screenie when i grt home
<lunar_sam>
i need to take a nee screenie when i grt homeL313[23:19:24] <Amanda> Did michibot not
remind me to dump the switch this meowning, or did I dream adding
that reminder
L314[23:20:02] <Amanda> ah, no, I was too
lost in space to notice the ding
L315[23:43:35] <Amanda> Damnit Evernya,
can't you go one chapter without killing a racist and siccing all
the humans in the world against you
L316[23:44:39] <Neuro>
wut
<Neuro>
wutL317[23:45:28] <Amanda> I mean, the stupid
kid deserved it, but you should have lured him into a alleyway or
something, not executed him in the middle of the school
arena!
L318[23:49:31] ⇦
Quits: Inari (~Pinkishu@p508ef0be.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: KVIrc
5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)
L319[23:53:13] <Ocawesome101> TIL that xonotic runs
faster through xwayland than on native xorg
<Ocawesome101> TIL that xonotic runs
faster through xwayland than on native xorgL320[23:53:17] <Ocawesome101> both under plasma
<Ocawesome101> both under plasma