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L1[00:06:43] <dequbed> Amanda: Gee thanks, fully redundant brain chips now \o/ Now I only need to redundandize the rest of my central nervous system.
L2[00:08:05] <dequbed> @Ariri a) wtf. b) wtf? c) no.
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L4[00:13:11] <Ne​uro> aw rip czat
L5[00:13:14] <Ne​uro> aw rip cat [Edited]
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L10[00:45:34] <Amanda> Elfi: did you ever read a sci-fi story and get so immersed you feel like you're not interacting with technology correctly anymore? Anyway, I want brain implants.
L11[00:45:53] <Amanda> Let's make them run Windows XP and control medical nanites
L12[00:47:34] <Amanda> %choose cereal or find something else to inhale
L13[00:47:37] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I've learned anything in life it's that you always pick "cereal"
L14[00:47:54] <Amanda> sigh, fiiine
L15[00:48:10] <Ne​uro> let's all love lain
L16[01:01:18] <Amanda> I don't know, I'm not sure if I'm emotionally ready for a relationship, let alone a poly one
L17[01:06:21] <Ne​uro> haha
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L19[01:59:09] <Ar​iri> dequbed: :(
L20[02:02:09] <lunar_sam> @Ocawesome101 https://github.com/lunaboards-dev/lcpio/blob/master/formats/txc.lua
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L23[03:11:05] * Amanda curls up around elfi, starting to think maybe reading all day after only getting 5h of sleep wasn't the best idea when he brain already has trouble with determining what memories are real and what ones she's hallucinated from a story
L24[03:11:46] * Amanda decides that's a problem for future-amanda, lays her head on Elfi's general vicinity and zzzmews
L25[03:11:49] <Amanda> Night nerds
L26[03:28:51] <Fizz​york> Hi all. I was just wondering what the state of OpenComputers is for Minecraft 1.18.
L27[03:30:32] <Ocawes​ome101> @Fizzyork nonexistent
L28[03:30:47] <Ocawes​ome101> It’ll exist if you port it
L29[03:31:39] <Fizz​york> Thanks for the info. What was the last supported MC version?
L30[03:58:55] <Mic​hiyo> 1.12
L31[05:31:39] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L32[05:31:40] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! Forec​aster! You beat Ko​dos's previous record of <0 (By 6 hours, 19 minutes and 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L33[05:31:41] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours, 19 minutes and 25 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00632 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.34628254 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L50[10:19:13] <Asseat​ingduck> Why no port to 1.16.5
L51[10:26:04] <ben_mkiv> because forge changed a lot of things
L52[10:26:13] <ben_mkiv> and dropped scala, which opencomputers is written in
L53[10:26:38] <ben_mkiv> so long story short, it's probably less work to rewrite it from scratch, which afaik some people are working on
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L55[11:09:54] <Kristo​pher38> i see no 1.16 ports being actively worked on
L56[11:10:41] <Kristo​pher38> there were 2 afaik and both people doing them quickly lost interest
L57[11:11:34] <Ne​uro> rip
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L60[11:38:23] <Forec​aster> I mean, Sangar is rewriting it (if by rewriting you mean wiring a new mod that is vaguely related)
L61[11:46:28] <Senl​iast> >Asseatingduck: Why no port to 1.16.5
L62[11:46:29] <Senl​iast> It doesn't work stable on 1.12 yet...
L63[11:52:51] <Izaya> The only issues I've had on 1.12 are the eternal mild persistence issues?
L64[12:12:25] <Senl​iast> And random hard drives erasing and components disappearing...
L65[12:39:24] <Izaya> Guess I avoided the dev builds with those issues :p
L66[12:43:09] <Senl​iast> Yeah that would be great, but it isn't. The issue is also present on the official build from github.
L67[12:43:56] <Izaya> Are you using filesystem buffering?
L68[12:44:33] <Senl​iast> Ehm no idea what it is, where can i see it?
L69[12:44:48] <Izaya> it's a config file option
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L72[13:04:21] <Amanda> %choose rain box or try and be "productive"
L73[13:04:21] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: After all, why shouldn't you "try and be "productive""?
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L77[13:21:09] <Amanda> I thought we had an OC release with the crash + disk erase fix already>?
L78[13:21:35] <Amanda> It was a long-standing race condition that changes in forge exhaserbated
L79[13:22:03] <Amanda> if not, it's definately fixed in the CI builds
L80[13:22:14] <Amanda> which are usually just as stable
L81[13:39:57] <Izaya> yeah like I remember that from ... ages ago
L82[13:42:03] <Forec​aster> Hooray, my internet is back [Edited]
L83[13:42:11] <Forec​aster> Only took 9 days
L84[13:42:32] <Forec​aster> For them to turn my internet back on
L85[13:53:14] <Z0id​berg> You what's satisfyingly dangerous?
L86[13:53:19] <Z0id​berg> https://tinyurl.com/y4djdy8x
L87[14:06:34] <Senl​iast> >Izaya: it's a config file option
L88[14:06:34] <Senl​iast> Okay, I am currently at work but I will look into it later, are you later online?
L89[14:07:41] <Senl​iast> Amanda, I am on 216 dev build, but it's still happens... or which build do you mean?
L90[14:13:19] <Amanda> @Senilast what other mods do you have, because It should be fixed for awhile now
L91[14:16:06] <Senl​iast> Okay I will also send the mod list, once I am done with work
L92[14:50:30] <Amanda> If you're using a non-forge mod loader that may also be the cause. There's been issues with sponge before for example
L93[15:07:25] <Senl​iast> https://tinyurl.com/y4bapen3
L94[15:08:42] <Senl​iast> okay thats my mod list, so actually not too much
L95[15:11:27] <Senl​iast> bufferChanges=false , is it this? i changed only one config flag timeout=999999999 so the yielding this, but i think it shouldnt do matter?
L96[15:12:16] <Senl​iast> and i am using official minecraft launcher with forge 14.23.5.2854
L97[15:14:47] <Senl​iast> ah and disableMemoryLimit=true
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L99[15:35:26] <Amanda> uh. disabling the resource sandboxing like that might have an effect, why did you even do that?
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L101[15:49:52] <Senl​iast> >Amanda: uh. disabling the resource sandboxing l…
L102[15:49:52] <Senl​iast> cuz i thought that it may slow down the PCs or so on... should i return it to disableMemoryLimit true and timeout 5?
L103[15:50:03] <Senl​iast> cuz i thought that it may slow down the PCs or so on... should i return it to disableMemoryLimit false and timeout 5? [Edited]
L104[15:50:23] <Amanda> it's meant to slow down the PCs so that they don't overload the MC server and cause lag
L105[15:50:44] <Amanda> and regardless it's still hard-limited to 20 ticks a second
L106[15:50:54] <Amanda> for stuff like screen updates
L107[15:51:48] <Senl​iast> ok, so i would set it to false and 5?
L108[15:52:12] <Amanda> yes. I've never had issues with OC computers feeling slow, but then again I don't use messes like MineOS
L109[15:52:37] <Amanda> at least, not issues not caused by bad code
L110[15:53:30] <Senl​iast> and also sometimes the PC crashes with "too long without yelding" therefore i set timeout to 999999999
L111[15:54:03] <Amanda> whatever the PC is running is probably causing an infinite loop without yielding, then
L112[15:54:44] <Amanda> That is there to stop such potentially-malicious conditions from bringing down the entire MC server
L113[15:55:10] <Ocawes​ome101> ^ malicious or just poorly-written
L114[15:55:21] <Senl​iast> it happened on my programs... so it means that i wrote it wrong?
L115[15:55:52] <Amanda> if you share your code, we can try and point out where it should be yielding
L116[15:55:53] <dequbed> Depends. Is your program designed to lag out servers? Then no, you wrote it exactly right :P
L117[15:56:22] <Senl​iast> so it happened pretty often (a blue screen with "too long without yielding"), then i set the this timeout - and it never happened then
L118[15:56:42] <Senl​iast> oh okay...
L119[15:57:37] <Senl​iast> but is MineOS bad? i am using its and its very nice, so thats a OS with GUI
L120[15:57:55] <Amanda> MineOS is atrocious
L121[15:58:00] <Amanda> a massive resource hog
L122[15:58:13] <Senl​iast> i mean its single OS with GUI for OC, it has IDE etc... so its much more comfortable than the the default command line
L123[15:58:45] <Senl​iast> oh okay...
L124[15:58:49] <Amanda> it's not the only OS with a gui, it's just the most popular
L125[15:59:13] <dequbed> It's not "bad". But GUIs require massive amounts of computation power. Ever seen picture of completely hopelessly overloaded trucks or bikes from Africa or India? It's like that. It *works* but it's not the best way if you have alternatives.
L126[16:00:12] <Senl​iast> okay, i didnt know it. I choose it because it has pretty much of APIs and a IDE with GUI, that make writing of programs more easier, at least for me...
L127[16:03:17] <Senl​iast> but it should not be the problem for disappearing components? because i would try to set the two values to default just like i said, and then just look what happens...
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L129[16:05:35] <Amanda> what do you mean "disabling components"
L130[16:06:15] <Senl​iast> disappearing components
L131[16:06:56] <Amanda> Does it happen under openos? I've never had that happen, so it could be a mineos big
L132[16:07:11] <Amanda> Bug*
L133[16:07:38] <Senl​iast> well just like i said, i have problem that sometimes hard drives of PCs are just erases, so are blank and components in the PCs are disappearing, so only blank PC with no components inside
L134[16:08:02] <Senl​iast> but it is somehow PC- or chunk-related so it happens always on the same PCs
L135[16:08:30] <Senl​iast> and other PCs are running just fine.
L136[16:10:13] <Amanda> how did you create those PCs? Duplicating items / pulling from the creative inventory can cause problems, though the creative inventory problems should all be fixed, I think
L137[16:10:58] <Amanda> what else is in their chunk? Anything in the logs?
L138[16:11:35] <Senl​iast> ok so i copied them worldedit (/copy /paste), but then i remove and throw the hard drive aways and insert new one from inventory
L139[16:11:57] <Senl​iast> i also treid completely destroying the PC case, and taking all components new from inventory
L140[16:12:03] <Va​ur> %tonk
L141[16:12:05] <MichiBot> Yikes! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 6 hours, 19 minutes and 25 seconds (By 4 hours, 20 minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L142[16:12:06] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 10 hours, 40 minutes and 24 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.03045 (0.00435 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L143[16:12:40] <Amanda> I'm not sure then, might be some interaction with worldedit or similar
L144[16:13:49] <Senl​iast> in the chunk are also wires from ProjectRed and elevator from DynamicElevators (i use it as door xD)
L145[16:14:34] <Senl​iast> [16:30:37] [Server thread/WARN] [opencomputers]: A component of type 'screen' disappeared (7c855af4-286f-477a-b651-e743b06b1f00)! This usually means that it didn't save its node.
L146[16:14:46] <Senl​iast> thats what appears in the log, as example. so i assume its that
L147[16:16:35] <Amanda> Did you paste it multiple times?
L148[16:17:10] <Amanda> OC really isn't designed for that kind of duplication of entire computers and their components.
L149[16:20:19] <Senl​iast> yeah, so i copy and paste the building with PCs multiple times, but then i destroy the PCs and put new components from inventory by hand
L150[16:29:38] <M​GR> What if you copy and paste the building, and then put the PCs in?
L151[16:30:23] <Senl​iast> yes, it does actually more sense
L152[16:36:38] <Amanda> note that things like screens, relays, etc also need to be rebuild/placed
L153[16:37:04] <Amanda> not just the components inside the computer and the case
L154[16:42:45] <Senl​iast> okay i will try it. do you think that it may not happen in 217? i am currently on 216 because of redstone bug but if it will not happen on 217- then the redstone bug doesnt matter for me.
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L156[16:48:00] <Z0id​berg> Ok.
L157[16:48:24] <Z0id​berg> Discord's official stable package is now broken on many distributions by default so I had to move to Canary. Annoying but ok
L158[16:48:47] <Z0id​berg> They decided to screw up the ffmpeg dependency
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L160[16:58:35] <Amanda> somehow I'm not surprised
L161[18:43:45] <Ash​irg> %sip
L162[18:43:48] <MichiBot> You drink an eroded moonstone potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! But Ashirg's anti-virus routines destroy it.
L163[18:50:34] <Forec​aster> Ooh
L164[18:50:37] <Forec​aster> https://youtu.be/pZiIe_UJC20
L165[18:50:41] <Forec​aster> Is finally here
L166[18:50:46] <Forec​aster> It's*
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L168[18:53:08] <Kristo​pher38> finally
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L170[19:05:06] <Ko​dos> Did U9 finally drop
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L175[19:26:47] <Forec​aster> I hope they make a more transporty one next
L176[20:12:32] <CompanionCube> 'Two in five people in England and Wales from an ethnic minority background could become eligible to be deprived of their citizen status without warning.'
L177[20:15:54] <Ocawes​ome101> o.0
L178[20:17:11] <Amanda> Good mews, I finally figured out how to make my homelab stop running at 4.5GHz all the time
L179[20:17:24] <Amanda> maybe now the fan will survive until I get back from my holiday
L180[20:18:09] <Amanda> turns out under modern intel drivers, "ondemand" doesn't exist, you have "performance" and "powersave" which are ondemand, but skew to max and min respectively
L181[20:20:24] <luna​r_sam> https://tinyurl.com/y3f2v86p
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L183[21:13:05] <Ko​dos> %sip
L184[21:13:07] <MichiBot> You drink a molten orange potion (New!). A genie appears out of the empty bottle, turns it into a pie, then vanishes.
L185[21:40:37] <Senl​iast> Is it Microsoft Flight Simulator?
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L187[21:53:18] <Amanda> KSP I think
L188[22:08:04] <Forec​aster> Yes, aka Kerbal space program
L189[22:10:34] <Z0id​berg> What are you talking about, they're totally playing barbie(r) for the NES
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L192[22:18:10] <Ash​irg> >Amanda: turns out under modern intel drivers, …
L193[22:18:10] <Ash​irg> Intel
L194[22:18:11] <Ash​irg> Smh
L195[22:18:31] <Ash​irg> I have an intel too, but still
L196[22:23:27] <Amanda> %remindme 45m text your aunt about the fan you're mailing her
L197[22:23:28] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "text your aunt about the fan you're mailing her" in 45m at 12/09/2021 11:08:27 PM
L198[22:25:12] <Amanda> @Ashirg I don't much care what cpu I have really, if it's faster than whatever I'm upgrading from, that's fine enough for me, tbh
L199[22:25:18] <Amanda> I think my gaming rig has an intel i5
L200[22:25:51] <Amanda> the machine I was having the CPU govener issues with is an intel NUC 8th gen, which I use as a homelab, and accidentally the fan
L201[22:26:27] <Amanda> Turns out it has one of those fans you're meant to hold in place when you use compressed air on it
L202[22:27:34] <Ash​irg> Newer intel CPUs apparently have a mini OS that's also used to spy on the users or something like that
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L204[22:28:21] <Amanda> not really _meant_ to, just poorly security-revieweed so it's got lots of shitty security
L205[22:28:38] <Amanda> assuming you mean the Intel Management Engine
L206[22:29:02] <Amanda> It's meant for enterprises and such to do remote management easier across a fleet
L207[22:29:12] <dequbed> It's the only part of a modern intel that has anything that could be considered close to a "full OS", so probably, yes :P
L208[22:29:40] <Amanda> dequbed: I mean, their Intel Edison ran a side-processor with an even-more-stripped-down Linux on it, so
L209[22:29:52] <Amanda> which ran the BT and such
L210[22:30:05] <dequbed> Uh yeah
L211[22:30:09] <dequbed> Every Modem does that
L212[22:30:14] <dequbed> Either Linux or Android
L213[22:30:49] <Amanda> They actually published the source for the image, probably due to GPL restrictions, but no way to flash it yourself, or instructions on how to compile it, IIRC
L214[22:32:30] <Amanda> ... girls.
L215[22:32:35] <dequbed> I mean yeah, FCC rules didn't exactly encourage user reflashable code :P
L216[22:32:41] <Amanda> That's all I have to say about this lysdecia mis-read: "In the cloud: How machine learning boobs product discovery for retail."
L217[22:40:50] <luna​r_sam> new lcpio version soon
L218[22:41:10] <luna​r_sam> with support for links and a hot new liblcpio for all your lower level cpio creation needs
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L220[22:48:05] <Z0id​berg> I want the version of lcpio that has an arbitrary code execution exploit
L221[22:53:02] <luna​r_sam> but it doesn't support rars
L222[23:08:28] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: text your aunt about the fan you're mailing her
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