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<@217864048010592260> solution. Write a new…
<Kristopher38> >Z0idberg:
<@217864048010592260> solution. Write a new…L2[00:03:41] <Kristopher38> that's basically what
vintage story creators did lol
<Kristopher38> that's basically what
vintage story creators did lolL3[00:03:58] <Kristopher38> >esotericist: i'm
currently thinking mugging integrated dy…
<Kristopher38> >esotericist: i'm
currently thinking mugging integrated dy…L4[00:03:58] <Kristopher38> i've heard integrated
dynamics has pretty laggy networks
<Kristopher38> i've heard integrated
dynamics has pretty laggy networksL5[00:18:16] <Izaya> vintage story seems
neat
L6[00:18:26] <Izaya> shame the only
communication channel is discord
L8[00:23:35] <GogoFox>
with this technology u can add single digit numbers in hex
<GogoFox>
with this technology u can add single digit numbers in hexL9[00:24:49] <Kristopher38> Son, we unlocked hex
<Kristopher38> Son, we unlocked hexL10[00:25:30] <Kristopher38> Izaya: it's basically
terrafirmacraft but as a standalone game
<Kristopher38> Izaya: it's basically
terrafirmacraft but as a standalone gameL11[00:26:14] <Kristopher38> With this temporal
stability quirk sprinkled on top
<Kristopher38> With this temporal
stability quirk sprinkled on topL12[00:29:04] <lunar_sam> VS is neat
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L15[01:00:48] <GogoFox>
actual calculations are done by a single module at the back, rest
is just for convenience https://tinyurl.com/y6kstfuq
<GogoFox>
actual calculations are done by a single module at the back, rest
is just for convenience https://tinyurl.com/y6kstfuqL16[01:00:51] <GogoFox> i
see that this server is very OC focused, do people actually post
TIS-3D stuff here?
<GogoFox> i
see that this server is very OC focused, do people actually post
TIS-3D stuff here?L17[01:03:15] <Izaya> EsperNet was
originally for roleplay but here we are >.>
L18[01:03:17] <Ocawesome101> occasionally
<Ocawesome101> occasionallyL19[01:03:32] <Izaya> TIS-3D isn't terribly
popular but it does appear occasionally
L20[01:03:46] <GogoFox>
sad
<GogoFox>
sadL21[01:12:00] <Izaya> https://whinge.town/media/b30cadc8-9fba-4cab-ae7c-451b660eef92/07acec4ab42dc051eeb52889e6d3f8627fbe2b0cef593db44548d661d6016714.png
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server is very OC focused, …
<esotericist> >GogoFox: i see that this
server is very OC focused, …L24[01:12:19] <esotericist> i was starting to think i
was the only one around here who actually used tis-3d XD
<esotericist> i was starting to think i
was the only one around here who actually used tis-3d XDL25[01:12:26] <GogoFox>
<3
<GogoFox>
<3L26[01:12:33] <GogoFox>
this is serious stuff
<GogoFox>
this is serious stuffL27[01:12:38] <esotericist> it's metal as hell
<esotericist> it's metal as hellL28[01:13:03] <GogoFox>
im trying to make game of life where one cell would be one
controller
<GogoFox>
im trying to make game of life where one cell would be one
controllerL29[01:13:04] <esotericist> i've been helping sangar
with it the last few days, and that's been a great feeling. my 1.18
port went up a little while ago on curseforge
<esotericist> i've been helping sangar
with it the last few days, and that's been a great feeling. my 1.18
port went up a little while ago on curseforgeL30[01:13:10] <esotericist> that would be intense
<esotericist> that would be intenseL31[01:13:33] <GogoFox>
lul 2 hours ago
<GogoFox>
lul 2 hours agoL32[01:13:40] <GogoFox>
nice
<GogoFox>
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L34[01:14:16] <esotericist> yeah. it felt really great
when i finally got it running. then felt really sad when i realized
i'd botched the nbt stuff and it wasn't saving anything XD
<esotericist> yeah. it felt really great
when i finally got it running. then felt really sad when i realized
i'd botched the nbt stuff and it wasn't saving anything XDL35[01:14:27] <GogoFox>
also why when i click on the controller it does a clicking
sound?
<GogoFox>
also why when i click on the controller it does a clicking
sound?L36[01:14:36] <esotericist> i have no idea!
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L38[01:14:43] <esotericist> but i sometimes click it
just cuz
<esotericist> but i sometimes click it
just cuzL39[01:14:51] <GogoFox>
makes sense
<GogoFox>
makes senseL40[01:15:10] <esotericist> also, are you taking
advantage any of overclocking?
<esotericist> also, are you taking
advantage any of overclocking?L41[01:15:41] <esotericist> i mostly just see the usual
amount of redstone
<esotericist> i mostly just see the usual
amount of redstoneL42[01:15:47] <GogoFox>
>esotericist: also, are you taking advantage any of o…
<GogoFox>
>esotericist: also, are you taking advantage any of o…L43[01:15:47] <GogoFox>
im not sure i understand
<GogoFox>
im not sure i understandL44[01:16:02] <Ocawesome101> put levers on all possible
sides of the controller
<Ocawesome101> put levers on all possible
sides of the controllerL45[01:16:05] <esotericist> how fast the machine runs is
based on the strength of the redstone signal you send into it
<esotericist> how fast the machine runs is
based on the strength of the redstone signal you send into itL46[01:16:05] <Ocawesome101> you get more speed that
way
<Ocawesome101> you get more speed that
wayL47[01:16:07] <esotericist> it counts past 15
<esotericist> it counts past 15L48[01:16:13] <GogoFox>
wut????????
<GogoFox>
wut????????L49[01:16:24] <Izaya> cursed
L50[01:16:36] <esotericist> so if you put max strength
redstone signals on five sides (such as from a lever or redstone
blocks) it goes about five times as fast
<esotericist> so if you put max strength
redstone signals on five sides (such as from a lever or redstone
blocks) it goes about five times as fastL51[01:16:52] <GogoFox>
WUTT!!!?!??
<GogoFox>
WUTT!!!?!??L52[01:16:54] <Ocawesome101> a signal strength of one
halts but doesn't shut down iirc
<Ocawesome101> a signal strength of one
halts but doesn't shut down iircL53[01:17:02] <Ocawesome101> useful for stopping
programs
<Ocawesome101> useful for stopping
programsL54[01:17:06] <esotericist> that's why i said 'about' XD
the math is a little wonky
<esotericist> that's why i said 'about' XD
the math is a little wonkyL55[01:17:26] <GogoFox>
it's... something
<GogoFox>
it's... somethingL56[01:18:02] <esotericist> i mean, at the end of the
day, tis-3d is a like a progression from raw redstone, but more
arcane
<esotericist> i mean, at the end of the
day, tis-3d is a like a progression from raw redstone, but more
arcaneL57[01:18:31] <GogoFox>
technically everything can be a progression from raw redstone
<GogoFox>
technically everything can be a progression from raw redstoneL58[01:18:45] <esotericist> sure, but stuff like
opencomputers/computercraft skip a bunch of steps
<esotericist> sure, but stuff like
opencomputers/computercraft skip a bunch of stepsL59[01:18:51] <esotericist> i think this is a more
minecrafty computing solution
<esotericist> i think this is a more
minecrafty computing solutionL60[01:19:05] <GogoFox>
hmmmm makes sense
<GogoFox>
hmmmm makes senseL61[01:19:22] <GogoFox>
brb im gonna overclock all my stuff
<GogoFox>
brb im gonna overclock all my stuffL62[01:19:38] <esotericist> just don't bleed redstone
signals into redstone mdules unintentionally
<esotericist> just don't bleed redstone
signals into redstone mdules unintentionallyL63[01:20:18] <esotericist> anyway i have in the past
used tis-3d to manage production systems in tech mods, but that's
going to be really hard in 1.18 if i can't get some better data
transfer tools.
<esotericist> anyway i have in the past
used tis-3d to manage production systems in tech mods, but that's
going to be really hard in 1.18 if i can't get some better data
transfer tools.L64[01:20:36] <esotericist> i mean, i guess i could rely
on infrared
<esotericist> i mean, i guess i could rely
on infraredL65[01:21:23] <GogoFox>
is serial module expanded in 1.18 or still needs some external
addons?
<GogoFox>
is serial module expanded in 1.18 or still needs some external
addons?L66[01:21:23] <esotericist> but the way it buffers is a
pain in the ass
<esotericist> but the way it buffers is a
pain in the assL67[01:21:42] <esotericist> there's no new features in
1.18 aside from being on 1.18
<esotericist> there's no new features in
1.18 aside from being on 1.18L68[01:21:47] <esotericist> and additions isn't ported
yet
<esotericist> and additions isn't ported
yetL69[01:21:54] <esotericist> i've been trying to decide
if i have the energy to get that too
<esotericist> i've been trying to decide
if i have the energy to get that tooL70[01:23:44] <esotericist> but it's made for 1.16.2, so
i'd have a lot more work to do than i did with tis-3d
<esotericist> but it's made for 1.16.2, so
i'd have a lot more work to do than i did with tis-3dL71[01:24:10] <GogoFox>
understandable
<GogoFox>
understandableL72[01:27:48] <esotericist> ... i didn't realize tis-3d
additions is fabric, as well. oh, well, that definitely tilts
things to 'no'
<esotericist> ... i didn't realize tis-3d
additions is fabric, as well. oh, well, that definitely tilts
things to 'no'L73[01:28:06] <esotericist> at least as a direct
port
<esotericist> at least as a direct
portL74[01:28:35] <esotericist> i'll probably just implement
my own equivalent of some of that
<esotericist> i'll probably just implement
my own equivalent of some of thatL75[01:56:08] <Amanda> %choose laptop nap
time or continue playing games
L76[01:56:09] <MichiBot> Amanda: Is it a
bird?! Is it a plane?! No! It's "laptop nap time"!
L77[01:58:20] <GogoFox>
>esotericist: i'll probably just implement my own equ…
<GogoFox>
>esotericist: i'll probably just implement my own equ…L78[01:58:20] <GogoFox> I
grant you my blessing so one day you will have strength to do it
<3
<GogoFox> I
grant you my blessing so one day you will have strength to do it
<3L79[01:58:51] <GogoFox>
Also how can i do persistent storage in tis-3d?
<GogoFox>
Also how can i do persistent storage in tis-3d?L80[01:59:07] <esotericist> there are... degrees of
persistent
<esotericist> there are... degrees of
persistentL81[01:59:11] <esotericist> there's nothing like a hard
drive at present
<esotericist> there's nothing like a hard
drive at presentL82[01:59:52] <esotericist> the closest you can get is
initializing a rom module with ram state
<esotericist> the closest you can get is
initializing a rom module with ram stateL83[02:00:03] <esotericist> which is of course a manual
action
<esotericist> which is of course a manual
actionL84[02:01:05] <GogoFox>
Im thinking something that allows me to restart my machine but also
read/write operations
<GogoFox>
Im thinking something that allows me to restart my machine but also
read/write operationsL85[02:01:19] <esotericist> this is not something we
presently have.
<esotericist> this is not something we
presently have.L86[02:01:32] <esotericist> the best you could do is
have a separate system that receives and stores information
<esotericist> the best you could do is
have a separate system that receives and stores informationL87[02:01:36] <GogoFox>
Maybe additional constrollers with infrared and ram that are always
on
<GogoFox>
Maybe additional constrollers with infrared and ram that are always
onL88[02:01:41] <GogoFox>
Yea
<GogoFox>
YeaL89[02:01:44] <esotericist> yeah. that's the best at the
moment
<esotericist> yeah. that's the best at the
momentL90[02:01:51] <GogoFox>
Hmmmm ok
<GogoFox>
Hmmmm okL91[02:02:00] <esotericist> i've been thinking about
persistence and other logistics needs
<esotericist> i've been thinking about
persistence and other logistics needsL92[02:02:11] <esotericist> trying to figure out how to
make something possible without obviating the engineering
challenges
<esotericist> trying to figure out how to
make something possible without obviating the engineering
challengesL93[02:03:39] <esotericist> oh, there is one other
thing
<esotericist> oh, there is one other
thingL94[02:03:41] <esotericist> it's terrible
<esotericist> it's terribleL95[02:03:43] <esotericist> but you could do it
<esotericist> but you could do itL96[02:03:50] <esotericist> pistons and redstone
modules
<esotericist> pistons and redstone
modulesL97[02:04:02] <esotericist> it's one of the ways of
doing persistent storage in redstone
<esotericist> it's one of the ways of
doing persistent storage in redstoneL98[02:06:52] <GogoFox>
True but it can be slow
<GogoFox>
True but it can be slowL99[02:07:44] <GogoFox>
Im thinking if there could be a possible serial port interaction
that would help
<GogoFox>
Im thinking if there could be a possible serial port interaction
that would helpL100[02:10:45] <GogoFox>
Nope nvm
<GogoFox>
Nope nvmL101[02:11:22] <GogoFox> I
think that a module with removable magnetic tape would be
cool
<GogoFox> I
think that a module with removable magnetic tape would be
coolL102[02:12:44] <GogoFox>
But it would look weird with how modules are flat now
<GogoFox>
But it would look weird with how modules are flat nowL103[02:13:51] <Izaya> consider: modules
could be pyramid-shaped
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L107[02:17:51] <esotericist> >GogoFox: But it would
look weird with how modules ar…
<esotericist> >GogoFox: But it would
look weird with how modules ar…L108[02:17:52] <esotericist> i'd make it an external
device that connects to serial
<esotericist> i'd make it an external
device that connects to serialL109[02:18:38] <esotericist> a one stack container object
that holds a tape. then you'd need to manipulate the inventory some
other way
<esotericist> a one stack container object
that holds a tape. then you'd need to manipulate the inventory some
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L111[02:19:08] <esotericist> coincidentally, i've been
thinking really hard on how to make an inventory interaction add-on
for tis-3d, although that's still in early concept stages, let
alone actual design
<esotericist> coincidentally, i've been
thinking really hard on how to make an inventory interaction add-on
for tis-3d, although that's still in early concept stages, let
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>esotericist: a one stack container object that holds…
<GogoFox>
>esotericist: a one stack container object that holds…L115[02:24:41] <GogoFox>
Im not sure if tis-100 is happening in magnetic tape years or more
floppy disk years
<GogoFox>
Im not sure if tis-100 is happening in magnetic tape years or more
floppy disk yearsL116[02:25:07] <GogoFox>
But it sounds fun
<GogoFox>
But it sounds funL117[02:25:35]
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L118[02:26:24] <esotericist> it sounded like it was
designed in late 70s/early 80s, which is definitely a span of time
where many systems still used tape
<esotericist> it sounded like it was
designed in late 70s/early 80s, which is definitely a span of time
where many systems still used tapeL119[02:26:35] <esotericist> especially when density of
storage was involved
<esotericist> especially when density of
storage was involvedL120[02:27:06] <esotericist> of course, it was from an
alternate reality whenever-it-was
<esotericist> of course, it was from an
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L122[02:28:28] <esotericist> one where they went for
parallelism instead of single core execution, so who the hell knows
what kind of weird answers they had for storage
<esotericist> one where they went for
parallelism instead of single core execution, so who the hell knows
what kind of weird answers they had for storageL123[02:28:30]
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L125[02:29:42] <Izaya> bubble memory
modules
L126[02:29:56] <Izaya> it's weird and
2D
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L129[02:31:21] <GogoFox>
Hmmmm
<GogoFox>
HmmmmL130[02:31:38] <esotericist> it's in the right timeframe,
and kinda bizarre
<esotericist> it's in the right timeframe,
and kinda bizarreL131[02:31:49] <GogoFox>
Its 2d and has bubbles
<GogoFox>
Its 2d and has bubblesL132[02:31:53] <GogoFox>
True
<GogoFox>
TrueL133[02:33:30] <esotericist> okay, i like this idea. it's
high density, non-volatile, but with weird semantics
<esotericist> okay, i like this idea. it's
high density, non-volatile, but with weird semanticsL134[02:33:52] <Izaya> cursed idea: bubble
memory on a sphere
L135[02:34:28] <Izaya> you can move what's
under the read head by applying magnetic fields but you don't have
to re-write the data you read onto the other side
L136[02:34:39] <Izaya> (because it wraps
around)
L137[02:34:42] <GogoFox>
>Izaya: bubble memory modules
<GogoFox>
>Izaya: bubble memory modulesL138[02:34:43] <GogoFox>
Or Twistor
<GogoFox>
Or TwistorL139[02:35:52] <esotericist> ... okay, but now you're
talking about polar coordinate addressing XD
<esotericist> ... okay, but now you're
talking about polar coordinate addressing XDL140[02:36:07] <Izaya> yes B)
L141[02:36:12] <GogoFox>
Xd
<GogoFox>
XdL142[02:36:17] <Izaya> the cursed turing
tape
L143[02:36:47] <GogoFox>
Turing sphere
<GogoFox>
Turing sphereL144[02:36:57] <GogoFox> I
like that
<GogoFox> I
like thatL145[02:37:12] <esotericist> i'm delighted by it, but i'm
not going to try to implement that XD
<esotericist> i'm delighted by it, but i'm
not going to try to implement that XDL146[02:37:22] <Izaya>
understandable
L147[02:37:32] <GogoFox>
Not as much as i like hyper-dimensional brainfuck but still
<GogoFox>
Not as much as i like hyper-dimensional brainfuck but stillL148[02:39:41] <Izaya> alternatively, a
torus
L149[02:40:01] <GogoFox>
>esotericist: i'm delighted by it, but i'm not going …
<GogoFox>
>esotericist: i'm delighted by it, but i'm not going …L150[02:40:01] <GogoFox> I
think simple whatever-bit addressing would make most sense
<GogoFox> I
think simple whatever-bit addressing would make most senseL151[02:40:56] <GogoFox>
>Izaya: alternatively, a torus
<GogoFox>
>Izaya: alternatively, a torusL152[02:40:56] <GogoFox>
Actually torus is simpler than a sphere
<GogoFox>
Actually torus is simpler than a sphereL153[02:41:18] <Amanda> %choose noms or no
noms
L154[02:41:18] <MichiBot> Amanda: A
wizard is never late, and sometimes engages in some "no
noms".
L155[02:41:18] <Izaya> it means it loops
around in all directions but you don't need to use coordinate
systems that are too weird
L156[02:41:28] <Izaya> I think you can
unwrap them as a rectangle?
L157[02:41:39] <GogoFox>
Yea
<GogoFox>
YeaL158[02:42:45] <Amanda> Somehow
"turning sphere" reminded me of one of my many inane
dreams where I was in charge of a micro-universe and my neighbor
kept being rude and sending invaders at me
L159[02:43:21] <esotericist> bubble memory functioning as
essentially a set of persistent FIFO queues that need refreshing to
maintain contents seems like the right kind of bent to me
<esotericist> bubble memory functioning as
essentially a set of persistent FIFO queues that need refreshing to
maintain contents seems like the right kind of bent to meL160[02:43:36] <GogoFox>
>Amanda: Somehow "turning sphere" reminded me
of…
<GogoFox>
>Amanda: Somehow "turning sphere" reminded me
of…L161[02:43:36] <GogoFox> I
hope u managed to defend ur planet
<GogoFox> I
hope u managed to defend ur planetL162[02:44:20] <GogoFox>
>esotericist: bubble memory functioning as essentiall…
<GogoFox>
>esotericist: bubble memory functioning as essentiall…L163[02:44:21] <GogoFox>
What if we stop refreshing ?
<GogoFox>
What if we stop refreshing ?L164[02:44:39] <GogoFox>
😱
<GogoFox>
😱L165[02:44:45] <esotericist> then you stop getting
output
<esotericist> then you stop getting
outputL166[02:45:13] <esotericist> the tracks need something
put onto them to push them
<esotericist> the tracks need something
put onto them to push themL167[02:47:02] <esotericist> the semantics i'm imagining
are some number of tracks of some length. the numbers aren't
important. but i'm leaning towards selecting a track by writing a
negative nmber.
<esotericist> the semantics i'm imagining
are some number of tracks of some length. the numbers aren't
important. but i'm leaning towards selecting a track by writing a
negative nmber.L168[02:47:02] <esotericist> once you read from a track,
that track can't be read from again until it's written to.
<esotericist> once you read from a track,
that track can't be read from again until it's written to.L169[02:47:44] <GogoFox>
Sounds fun
<GogoFox>
Sounds funL170[02:48:04] <GogoFox>
Except its weird that u select by negative numbers
<GogoFox>
Except its weird that u select by negative numbersL171[02:48:59] <esotericist> tis-100 had some semantics
that relied on negative numbers for sentinels. tis-3d has a larger
word size, so just straight up using negative values for addressing
is simple without needing extra hoops to write a byte
<esotericist> tis-100 had some semantics
that relied on negative numbers for sentinels. tis-3d has a larger
word size, so just straight up using negative values for addressing
is simple without needing extra hoops to write a byteL172[02:49:33] <GogoFox>
Hmmmm
<GogoFox>
HmmmmL173[02:49:55] <esotericist> i mean, it could just be the
normal byte value with a high bit set or w/e, but might as well
just use a negative value
<esotericist> i mean, it could just be the
normal byte value with a high bit set or w/e, but might as well
just use a negative valueL174[02:50:02] <Izaya> Amanda: turing
sphere https://social.shadowkat.net/media/d983c716699dfe1393e1fb54de3b246e8590286c07249959d05b81614a7b5ead.png
L175[02:50:14] <Izaya> artist's rendition
of a magnetic bubble memory sphere: https://social.shadowkat.net/media/d55c725302e6a3e1f381aaffc944672105d8690d2fd9c36dc55aba65535628d5.png
L176[02:51:34] <esotericist> fun
<esotericist> funL177[02:51:46] <Izaya> (artist being me,
pixels in blender.)
L178[02:52:06] <Izaya> speaking of
blender, 2.9 was broken with my GPU but 3.0 doesn't even see it
.>>
L179[02:52:16] <esotericist> that sounds like normal
blender operation to me
<esotericist> that sounds like normal
blender operation to meL180[02:52:56] <esotericist> "what's that? a minor
revision? why yes, we deprecated your entire workflow, added three
'replacement' alternatives, none of which provides the entirety of
what you were doing before, and only one and a half of them are
documented"
<esotericist> "what's that? a minor
revision? why yes, we deprecated your entire workflow, added three
'replacement' alternatives, none of which provides the entirety of
what you were doing before, and only one and a half of them are
documented"L181[02:53:20] <Izaya> :D
L182[02:53:38] <Izaya> they did document
that AMD driver support is basically null now though
L183[02:53:40] <Izaya> so that's
something
L184[02:54:01] <GogoFox>
>esotericist: i mean, it could just be the normal byt…
<GogoFox>
>esotericist: i mean, it could just be the normal byt…L185[02:54:02] <GogoFox>
Im conflicted part of me wants some quirky fun storage system other
part wants just a simplest persistent memory
<GogoFox>
Im conflicted part of me wants some quirky fun storage system other
part wants just a simplest persistent memoryL186[02:54:12] <esotericist> pistons and hoppers, my
friend
<esotericist> pistons and hoppers, my
friendL187[02:54:21] <Izaya> but in 2.9 it
didn't fuckin work properly anyway
L188[02:54:22] <Izaya> so whatever
L189[02:54:41] <Izaya> > here is your
default cube, rendered as a matte black hexagon
L190[02:54:43] <esotericist> it does still suck
<esotericist> it does still suckL191[02:54:48] <esotericist> and you have my
sympathy
<esotericist> and you have my
sympathyL192[02:55:11] <Izaya> if it worked I'd be
annoyed but it wasn't usable before so if they're nuking it to
replace it later whatever
L193[02:55:15] <esotericist> >GogoFox: Im conflicted
part of me wants some quirky …
<esotericist> >GogoFox: Im conflicted
part of me wants some quirky …L194[02:55:15] <esotericist> have you dealt with hopper
clock/hopper values, out of curiosity? there's some interesting
techniques the vanilla redstone folks have come up with
<esotericist> have you dealt with hopper
clock/hopper values, out of curiosity? there's some interesting
techniques the vanilla redstone folks have come up withL195[02:55:46] <Izaya> bidirectional shift
registers make pretty neat stacks
L196[02:56:05] <Izaya> (Though I guess
that's what a stack is, isn't it)
L197[02:56:12] <GogoFox> I
know how hopper clock works but that all
<GogoFox> I
know how hopper clock works but that allL198[02:58:00] <Izaya> perhaps more dense
bubble memory with weird addressing and management AND less dense
core memory with straightforward addressing?
L199[02:59:18] <esotericist> well, you probably know then
that hoppers are redstone controlled. so the principle here is you
have a feed hopper (which is itself full of things, and ideally has
something feeding it more to avoid the possibility of exhaustion),
a register hopper, and some method of sending redstone signals to
each hopper without the other receiving it, while still having room
for a comparator reading the 'value' of the register hopper
<esotericist> well, you probably know then
that hoppers are redstone controlled. so the principle here is you
have a feed hopper (which is itself full of things, and ideally has
something feeding it more to avoid the possibility of exhaustion),
a register hopper, and some method of sending redstone signals to
each hopper without the other receiving it, while still having room
for a comparator reading the 'value' of the register hopperL200[02:59:18] <esotericist> and the register hopper is
of course feeding to some mechanism for putting the items back up
top.
<esotericist> and the register hopper is
of course feeding to some mechanism for putting the items back up
top.L201[03:00:15] <esotericist> if the register hopper is
'higher' value than you want, you turn it on until it drains to the
desired value. if it's too low, you instead turn on the feeder
hopper until it fills to the desired value
<esotericist> if the register hopper is
'higher' value than you want, you turn it on until it drains to the
desired value. if it's too low, you instead turn on the feeder
hopper until it fills to the desired valueL202[03:00:22] <esotericist> 0 to 15 values, on ...
'demand'
<esotericist> 0 to 15 values, on ...
'demand'L203[03:01:34] <esotericist> yeah, bubble memory for high
density (maybe high performance?) but fiddly
<esotericist> yeah, bubble memory for high
density (maybe high performance?) but fiddlyL204[03:01:34] <esotericist> something like core memory
for low density, low speed, but straightforward
<esotericist> something like core memory
for low density, low speed, but straightforwardL205[03:01:34] <esotericist> but i'm a terrible person so
i'll probably start with the bubble memory.
<esotericist> but i'm a terrible person so
i'll probably start with the bubble memory.L206[03:01:58] <esotericist> ah, apparently core memory
and bubble are equivalent performance
<esotericist> ah, apparently core memory
and bubble are equivalent performanceL207[03:02:08] <esotericist> so it'll be density and ease
of access as the tradeoffs
<esotericist> so it'll be density and ease
of access as the tradeoffsL208[03:02:38] <esotericist> of course for them to be
equivalent performance the bubble memory would have to be 'faster'
by some metrics, to account for the cycle pattern
<esotericist> of course for them to be
equivalent performance the bubble memory would have to be 'faster'
by some metrics, to account for the cycle patternL209[03:02:45] <GogoFox>
>Izaya: perhaps more dense bubble memory with w…
<GogoFox>
>Izaya: perhaps more dense bubble memory with w…L210[03:02:45] <GogoFox>
That would be ideal but at the same time a lot of work to
implement. Also it would make it easier to make an OS in
tis3d
<GogoFox>
That would be ideal but at the same time a lot of work to
implement. Also it would make it easier to make an OS in
tis3dL211[03:05:39] <esotericist> reading up on core memory,
it also had destructive readout, just a different pattern
<esotericist> reading up on core memory,
it also had destructive readout, just a different patternL212[03:05:50] <Izaya> yup
L213[03:05:55] <Izaya> usually handled by
the controller though
L214[03:06:08] <Izaya> (though I guess in
the case of bubble memory it was handled there too)
L215[03:06:34] <esotericist> i mean, if you aren't
building the controller, what even is the point?
<esotericist> i mean, if you aren't
building the controller, what even is the point?L216[03:07:22] <esotericist> :P
<esotericist> :PL217[03:07:50] <Amanda> Oh, it was turing
not turning, I can read
L218[03:08:11] <esotericist> XD
<esotericist> XDL219[03:08:17] <Amanda> I was imagining
like "turning radius" but for 3d rotation
L220[03:08:33] <esotericist> polar cornerdinates
<esotericist> polar cornerdinatesL221[03:08:53] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL222[03:08:55] <MichiBot> Awesome! Vaur!
You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 6 hours, 54
minutes and 54 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L223[03:08:56] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 6 hours, 54 minutes and 54 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.00692 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L224[03:09:50] <esotericist> okay. fun chat, but i'm
going to go get some rest. later, all.
<esotericist> okay. fun chat, but i'm
going to go get some rest. later, all.L225[03:10:13] <GogoFox>
Same bb <3
<GogoFox>
Same bb <3L226[03:50:02] ⇦
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zzzmews
L228[04:42:13] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L234[07:45:55] <lunar_sam>
i fucked up and forgot the last `ff` in the dest but d/w about
it
<lunar_sam>
i fucked up and forgot the last `ff` in the dest but d/w about
itL235[07:48:18] <Izaya> guess who's now the
owner of an XT250
L236[07:48:20] <Izaya> B)
L237[07:48:48] <lunar_sam>
neat
<lunar_sam>
neatL238[07:48:58] <lunar_sam>
Izaya: i'm delving into insanity again
<lunar_sam>
Izaya: i'm delving into insanity againL239[07:50:53] <lunar_sam>
but d/w
<lunar_sam>
but d/wL240[07:50:57] <lunar_sam>
i'm taking a break for tonight
<lunar_sam>
i'm taking a break for tonightL241[07:51:14] <lunar_sam>
the real insanity starts once i write the ethernet receive
part
<lunar_sam>
the real insanity starts once i write the ethernet receive
partL242[07:51:16] <lunar_sam>
:)
<lunar_sam>
:)L243[07:51:25] <lunar_sam>
then i'll be cooking with fire
<lunar_sam>
then i'll be cooking with fireL244[08:10:08] <Ashirg>
%sip
<Ashirg>
%sipL245[08:10:10] <MichiBot> You drink a
hairy coral potion (New!). A sudden craving for soup occupies
Ashirg's thoughts until they see a star fall.
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L251[09:37:52] <GogoFox>
>GogoFox: im trying to make game of life where on…
<GogoFox>
>GogoFox: im trying to make game of life where on…L252[09:37:52] <GogoFox>
ok i forgor that cells have to communicate on the diagonal
<GogoFox>
ok i forgor that cells have to communicate on the diagonalL253[09:38:24] <GogoFox> i
guess i have to get some rules without diagonals
<GogoFox> i
guess i have to get some rules without diagonalsL254[10:37:06] ⇦
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L256[10:38:38] <Vaur>
%tonkout
<Vaur>
%tonkoutL257[10:38:40] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle!
Vaur! You beat your own previous record of 6 hours, 54 minutes and
54 seconds (By 34 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L258[10:38:41] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.012
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 4.56831264,
Position #1
L259[12:12:16] <Kristopher38> >GogoFox: i guess i have
to get some rules without dia…
<Kristopher38> >GogoFox: i guess i have
to get some rules without dia…L260[12:12:16] <Kristopher38> You could pass messages
through the vertical/horizontal cells though
<Kristopher38> You could pass messages
through the vertical/horizontal cells thoughL261[12:17:28] <GogoFox>
Maybe
<GogoFox>
MaybeL262[12:17:49] <GogoFox>
But im lazy
<GogoFox>
But im lazyL263[12:18:49] <GogoFox>
Iim scared that if i add this weird routing its gonna be hell to
debug
<GogoFox>
Iim scared that if i add this weird routing its gonna be hell to
debugL264[12:19:00] <GogoFox>
Im scared that if i add this weird routing its gonna be hell to
debug [Edited]
<GogoFox>
Im scared that if i add this weird routing its gonna be hell to
debug [Edited]L265[12:19:19] <GogoFox>
We’ll see i guess
<GogoFox>
We’ll see i guessL266[12:22:11] <Wattana>
random idea: opl3 sound cards in OC
<Wattana>
random idea: opl3 sound cards in OCL267[12:22:23] <Wattana>
chip music go brrrrr
<Wattana>
chip music go brrrrrL268[12:38:27] <Neuro> . .
tbh i always thought oc could use more cards and that sounds
excellent
<Neuro> . .
tbh i always thought oc could use more cards and that sounds
excellentL269[12:38:27] <Neuro>
+1
<Neuro>
+1L270[13:11:13] *
Amanda jumps awake as she suddenly feels a sharp prickling from
where elfi is among her floof, looks over and meows at elfi about
setting up infrastructure in there
L271[13:13:11] <Amanda> Silly fairy, it's
nowhere near may pole time anyway
L272[13:14:38] <Amanda> or is that a
festivus pole?
L273[13:15:27] <Amanda> ... okay steam,
why are you using 3CPUs worth of processing to... idle?
L274[13:16:00] <Amanda> or did they move
the shader pre-caching into the steam executable
L275[13:28:26] <Amanda> %choose game or
use the spoons, amanda
L276[13:28:27] <MichiBot> Amanda: Once
you get a taste of "game" you can't stop.
L277[13:52:30] <Z0idberg>
How do you like my drop pod?
<Z0idberg>
How do you like my drop pod?L278[13:52:32] <Z0idberg>
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/584106582359408660/917612864938860555/unknown.png?width=1211&height=681
<Z0idberg>
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/584106582359408660/917612864938860555/unknown.png?width=1211&height=681L279[13:53:02] <Z0idberg>
this attaches to a rocket, we lifted off for our first space run
from earth, and something went wrong and our payload broke so we
had to turn back
<Z0idberg>
this attaches to a rocket, we lifted off for our first space run
from earth, and something went wrong and our payload broke so we
had to turn backL280[13:54:18] <Z0idberg>
it has 4 cockpits 20 small hydrogen thrusters a small hydrogen tank
(so you get like 1 - 2 mins of fuel but that's enough for docking
at space stations and returning)- but what's interesting as that we
have deadly reentry and the unlimited speed mod, we didn't have a
parachute in the hatch for some reason and we ended up crashing
back to earth at like 500 m/s
<Z0idberg>
it has 4 cockpits 20 small hydrogen thrusters a small hydrogen tank
(so you get like 1 - 2 mins of fuel but that's enough for docking
at space stations and returning)- but what's interesting as that we
have deadly reentry and the unlimited speed mod, we didn't have a
parachute in the hatch for some reason and we ended up crashing
back to earth at like 500 m/sL281[13:54:37] <Z0idberg>
And for some reason, our little light armored pod took very little
damage, almost nothing was broken
<Z0idberg>
And for some reason, our little light armored pod took very little
damage, almost nothing was brokenL282[13:54:40] <Z0idberg>
@lunar_sam ^
<Z0idberg>
@lunar_sam ^L283[13:55:27] <Z0idberg>
I think it broke a merge block and the cargo container behind it in
the front
<Z0idberg>
I think it broke a merge block and the cargo container behind it in
the frontL284[13:55:33] <Z0idberg>
and 1 hydrogen thruster
<Z0idberg>
and 1 hydrogen thrusterL285[14:04:02]
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L286[14:30:47] <Forecaster> it certainly looks like it
dropped
<Forecaster> it certainly looks like it
droppedL287[14:35:07] <Z0idberg>
lol
<Z0idberg>
lolL288[14:35:20] <Z0idberg>
I love the crater
<Z0idberg>
I love the craterL289[14:35:27] <Z0idberg>
It's so perfect
<Z0idberg>
It's so perfectL290[14:57:19] <Senliast>
i have a problem, so i have a "running string" program,
i.e. just a string that runs on the display. And i have this
program on 4 PC. They are not so far from each other, and on 2 of
them the program sometimes freezes - i.e. the image freezes, and on
2 of them - not. It happens when i come back to them i.e. i think,
when chucks reloads. But on all 4 PCs, the program is the same. Can
some one help me?
<Senliast>
i have a problem, so i have a "running string" program,
i.e. just a string that runs on the display. And i have this
program on 4 PC. They are not so far from each other, and on 2 of
them the program sometimes freezes - i.e. the image freezes, and on
2 of them - not. It happens when i come back to them i.e. i think,
when chucks reloads. But on all 4 PCs, the program is the same. Can
some one help me?L291[15:11:27] <Z0idberg>
I think they are supposed to keep running regardless of the chunk
reloading due to the persistence code
<Z0idberg>
I think they are supposed to keep running regardless of the chunk
reloading due to the persistence codeL292[15:12:00] <Z0idberg>
Does it respond to ctrl z or something?
<Z0idberg>
Does it respond to ctrl z or something?L293[15:12:20] <Z0idberg>
Ctrl c whatever works for oc
<Z0idberg>
Ctrl c whatever works for ocL294[15:15:45] <Senliast>
yeah, it does
<Senliast>
yeah, it doesL295[15:16:07] <Senliast>
but it freezes, and it shouldnt
<Senliast>
but it freezes, and it shouldntL296[15:17:16] ⇦
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L302[15:53:00] <GogoFox>
looks cools
<GogoFox>
looks coolsL303[15:53:06] <GogoFox>
also doesnt work :D
<GogoFox>
also doesnt work :DL304[16:05:26] <lunar_sam>
>Z0idberg: <@!175686996461617162> ^
<lunar_sam>
>Z0idberg: <@!175686996461617162> ^L305[16:05:26] <lunar_sam>
very nice
<lunar_sam>
very niceL307[16:18:38] <MichiBot> Warframe |
Official Trailer | The New War: Act One Teaser | length:
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PlayWarframe | Published On 7/12/2021
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L310[17:32:20] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL311[17:32:22] <MichiBot> Boom! Vaur! You
beat your own previous record of <0 (By 6 hours, 53 minutes and
42 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L312[17:32:23] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 6 hours, 53 minutes and 42 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.0069)
L313[17:35:43] <Ashirg>
%sip
<Ashirg>
%sipL314[17:35:45] <MichiBot> You drink a
rather titanium potion (New!). The potion contained a computer
virus! It changed Ashirg's theme to one they don't like!
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L316[18:22:17] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL317[18:22:19] <MichiBot> You drink a
seeping salmon potion (New!). Tonk moved back 1 hour.
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L319[18:41:22] <Wattana>
which one of you made super mario bros. in oc again? i dont
remember
<Wattana>
which one of you made super mario bros. in oc again? i dont
rememberL320[18:41:55] <Wattana>
im having ideas for a computronics sound card driver that acts as
an RC service listening to commands
<Wattana>
im having ideas for a computronics sound card driver that acts as
an RC service listening to commandsL321[18:49:33] <Ocawesome101> it was @Zen1th
<Ocawesome101> it was @Zen1thL322[19:32:48] <Senliast>
>Senliast: so i have a problem that certain PCs are…
<Senliast>
>Senliast: so i have a problem that certain PCs are…L323[19:32:49] <Senliast>
so i updated the mod to the developer version 216, but the issue
still persist. Sometimes all components gets wiped, sometimes only
hard drive, i.e. it becomes another ID, and this way, gets cleared.
But the folder with the old Hard drive ID still exists in the
opencomputers folder. An issue #1991 already existed and aperrently
was solved, but its not, at least in OC for MC 1.12.2
<Senliast>
so i updated the mod to the developer version 216, but the issue
still persist. Sometimes all components gets wiped, sometimes only
hard drive, i.e. it becomes another ID, and this way, gets cleared.
But the folder with the old Hard drive ID still exists in the
opencomputers folder. An issue #1991 already existed and aperrently
was solved, but its not, at least in OC for MC 1.12.2L324[19:33:10] <Senliast>
sorry that i annoy you guys, but the mods sometimes drives me
crazy...
<Senliast>
sorry that i annoy you guys, but the mods sometimes drives me
crazy...L325[19:36:19] <Senliast>
and it seems to be chunk-related
<Senliast>
and it seems to be chunk-relatedL326[19:36:20] <Senliast>
[16:30:37] [Server thread/WARN] [opencomputers]: A component of
type 'screen' disappeared (7c855af4-286f-477a-b651-e743b06b1f00)!
This usually means that it didn't save its node.
<Senliast>
[16:30:37] [Server thread/WARN] [opencomputers]: A component of
type 'screen' disappeared (7c855af4-286f-477a-b651-e743b06b1f00)!
This usually means that it didn't save its node.L327[20:07:54]
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L330[20:34:08] <Michiyo>
>Senliast: so i updated the mod to the developer v…
<Michiyo>
>Senliast: so i updated the mod to the developer v…L331[20:34:08] <Michiyo>
To quote the commit that closed 1991 "closes #1991 in some
cases, the other cases are undefined/no repro"
<Michiyo>
To quote the commit that closed 1991 "closes #1991 in some
cases, the other cases are undefined/no repro"L332[20:34:24] <Michiyo>
This issue has existed since 2017, and a fix has yet to be found
for all causes of it
<Michiyo>
This issue has existed since 2017, and a fix has yet to be found
for all causes of itL333[20:35:18] <Michiyo>
I've ran into it so many times it's actually stopped me from
playing MC.
<Michiyo>
I've ran into it so many times it's actually stopped me from
playing MC.L334[20:39:32] <Forecaster> I had a fix, but then I lost
it along with my unicorn I'm afraid
<Forecaster> I had a fix, but then I lost
it along with my unicorn I'm afraidL335[20:51:12] <Michiyo>
%remindme 30s test
<Michiyo>
%remindme 30s testL336[20:51:13] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"test" in 30s at 12/07/2021 08:51:42 PM
L337[20:51:43] <MichiBot> @Michiyo
REMINDER: test
L338[20:53:03] <Michiyo>
%remindme 5s test
<Michiyo>
%remindme 5s testL339[20:53:04] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"test" in 5s at 12/07/2021 08:53:08 PM
L340[20:53:08] <MichiBot> @Michiyo
REMINDER: test
L341[21:00:36] <Michiyo> "You'll
never professionally write a Command Line application in
C++".................................
L342[21:00:58] <Michiyo> If I didn't HAVE
to do this fucking course for work I wouldn't ._.
L343[21:08:05] <Forecaster> Sounds fun
<Forecaster> Sounds funL344[21:08:17] <Forecaster> For a certain definition of
fun
<Forecaster> For a certain definition of
funL345[22:15:38] <Ashirg>
Now
<Ashirg>
NowL346[22:16:22] <Ashirg>
Imagine having somebody tell you to write a command line
application in KOBOL or, science beware, Assembler
<Ashirg>
Imagine having somebody tell you to write a command line
application in KOBOL or, science beware, AssemblerL347[22:21:16] <Izaya> watch this
L348[22:21:23] *
Izaya refuses to write any GUI software at work
L349[22:25:53] <CompanionCube> ah, but
which assembler?
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L351[22:27:35] <Amanda> Izaya: I mean,
isn't it already obvious it's some certification course which
microsoft put their thumb on the scales for? "You don't need
C++ for shell, you have PowerShell and C# for that!"
L352[22:28:01] <Izaya> powershell is a
valid argument ... sort of ... but C#? ???
L353[22:28:19] <Amanda> Powershell
extensions are written in C#
L354[22:28:41] <Izaya> (in that powershell
fills a similar place to bash in that you use it to connect other
stuff together)
L355[22:31:48] <Amanda> %choose cereal and
laptop nap time or wait until after some halucinations
L356[22:31:49] <MichiBot> Amanda: I
received a message from future you, said to go with "wait
until after some halucinations".
L357[22:32:04] <Amanda> future me likes to
mess with the timeline though, so unplug it is
L358[22:38:37] <lunar_sam>
Izaya: GUIs are too hard to write
<lunar_sam>
Izaya: GUIs are too hard to writeL359[22:44:05] <Izaya> lunar_sam: https://social.shadowkat.net/media/702bbe3fec7d5bec4f4cc88d95eb12f99aff949379f56644ed3d59126c8823c7.jpg
L360[22:45:18] <lunar_sam> very nice
L361[22:45:34] <Izaya> gotta rearrange the
shed so I can fit both in there comfortably
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L365[23:13:00] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL366[23:13:01] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Forecaster, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 6 hours, 53
minutes and 42 seconds this time. 6 hours, 40 minutes and 39
seconds were wasted! Missed by 13 minutes and 2 seconds!