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L4[00:45:09] <Amanda> %choose laptop nap time
L5[00:45:09] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Yes! Do it now!
L6[00:45:13] <Amanda> D:
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L11[01:36:54] <Brisingr​Aerowing> %sip
L12[01:36:56] <MichiBot> You drink a gloomy grathnode potion (New!). BrisingrAerowing gains the ability to talk to bricks until they eat a pie.
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L14[01:49:00] <Ne​uro> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/anabobazek
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L16[02:32:18] <Amanda> %choose re-computer to update the hallucinations?
L17[02:32:19] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Are you sure? Well alright.
L18[02:32:27] <Amanda> I guess I am
L19[03:09:05] <Sagh​etti> >surface to air missile: i wanna make custom PCBs and whatnot
L20[03:09:05] <Sagh​etti> you should go for it
L21[03:10:05] <Sagh​etti> honestly i didn't really know where to start
L22[03:10:09] <Sagh​etti> and then i found this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7-8nUU6e3E
L23[03:10:09] <MichiBot> KiCad STM32 + USB + Buck Converter PCB Design and JLCPCB Assembly (Update) | length: 2h, 50m 28s | Likes: 8,463 Dislikes: 346 Views: 669,324 | by Phil’s Lab | Published On 26/9/2020
L24[03:10:22] <Sagh​etti> this is the video that got me into pcb design
L25[03:10:31] <Sagh​etti> absurdly detailed and well explained
L26[03:10:46] <luna​r_sam> currently working on something
L27[03:10:48] <luna​r_sam> very dumb
L28[03:10:51] <luna​r_sam> in gmod
L29[03:11:06] <Sagh​etti> fun
L30[03:11:15] <Ar​iri> %whois Ariri
L31[03:11:21] <Ar​iri> %last seen Ariri
L32[03:11:28] <Ar​iri> %lastseen Ariri
L33[03:11:30] <luna​r_sam> for some reason
L34[03:11:33] <luna​r_sam> my cockpit keeps disappearing
L35[03:11:34] <Ar​iri> uh
L36[03:11:41] <luna​r_sam> https://tinyurl.com/yezaen92
L37[03:11:45] <luna​r_sam> that blue part there is supposed to be there
L38[03:11:48] <Ar​iri> %seen Ariri
L39[03:11:49] <MichiBot> Ariri was last seen 1s ago. Saying: <Ar​iri> %seen Ariri
L40[03:11:55] <Ar​iri> :/
L41[03:12:03] <Sagh​etti> lmao
L42[03:12:12] <Ar​iri> >surface to air missile:
L43[03:12:12] <Ar​iri> have you considered the following
L44[03:12:15] <luna​r_sam> but now, for some reason, it doesn't wanna exist https://tinyurl.com/yg8ltd9q
L45[03:12:21] <Ar​iri> rapid weld tool noises
L46[03:12:29] <luna​r_sam> they're holos
L47[03:12:50] <Ar​iri> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L48[03:13:01] <luna​r_sam> there's a lot of stuff that's only working sometimes
L49[03:13:04] <luna​r_sam> kinda getting annoying
L50[03:16:07] <luna​r_sam> https://tinyurl.com/ygpsagbg
L51[03:16:16] <luna​r_sam> seems it has to do with ops per tick
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L54[03:38:24] <Amanda> Goddesses, I've not though of wiremod in yers
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L56[04:18:30] <Old35school> Кто в кс *?
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L58[05:04:16] <Amanda> 192 language not spoken
L59[05:04:44] <Amanda> Hey! Who authorized this time skip!?
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L61[05:47:10] * Amanda changes the language on Elfi's mothtop to Simplified Martian, curls up and finally passes out
L62[06:16:01] <Izaya> %tell Ariri https://i.poastcdn.org/d2f0cc7ad66ffca66716c35b8df7ea4291d4323b7c31fffb804b87071c6e5bd2.png
L63[06:16:03] <MichiBot> Iz​aya: Ariri will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L73[09:33:39] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L74[09:33:40] <MichiBot> Woooo! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 9 hours, 3 minutes and 42 seconds (By 59 minutes and 16 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L75[09:33:41] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.01 tonk points! plus 0.018 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 3.8078301, Position #2 Need 0.46008254 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L78[10:44:59] <Kristo​pher38> >Neuro: does anyone have a good method for measuring…
L79[10:44:59] <Kristo​pher38> As in you get a resolution of 20ms? That's well above what OC could do (50ms)
L80[10:47:26] <Kristo​pher38> Anyway what you're asking for with OC would be possible. Have a microcontroller that connects to a main server, you pulse redstone into it and it sends a wireless message to your server saying how long the pulse was
L81[10:48:03] <Kristo​pher38> The thing with microcontrollers is you just plop them down and start them, no other setup required
L82[10:49:50] <Kristo​pher38> But as I said, theoretical measurement resolution is 1 Minecraft tick
L83[10:50:54] <Izaya> minecraft planck time
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L86[11:55:55] <Izaya> %tell Ariri https://fedi.absturztau.be/media/d2f9ca8f201165a6a94dc28b3697b3a6d69791a75062785185f755b5b55bd89c.png
L87[11:55:56] <MichiBot> Iz​aya: Ariri will be notified of this message when next seen.
L88[12:05:34] <Ne​uro> >Kristopher38: As in you get a resolution of 20ms? T…
L89[12:05:34] <Ne​uro> I'm dumb
L90[12:05:38] <Ne​uro> I mistyped
L91[12:06:09] <Ne​uro> The projected resolution is 0.2s
L92[12:06:18] <Ne​uro> Which is 200ms not 20 lmao
L93[12:06:51] <Ne​uro> Since 0.2 is the fastest you can set a timer
L94[12:11:48] <Kristo​pher38> so yeah theoretically you can get better resolution with OC
L95[12:26:35] <Ne​uro> yeah
L96[12:26:58] <Ne​uro> the thing with micros is I havent figured out if you can take out the BIOS once you put it in. it seems to only let you swap for a new one
L97[12:27:10] <Izaya> pretty sure you have to swap it yeah
L98[12:29:18] <Ne​uro> yeah, I guess i can make a micro case and just make 100 copies of a bios that connects to another machine and has it display tick time
L99[12:31:10] <Ne​uro> bit more effort than id like but it will certainly work
L100[12:44:26] <Kristo​pher38> if you're on creative then if you craft a uC manually with a custom bios you can place however many you want with that bios
L101[12:45:24] <Kristo​pher38> ...though it might produce some bugs depending on how you code your system since now all network cards in uCs will have the same address
L102[12:48:03] <Ne​uro> technically if only the uC sends and does not receive it shouldn't be a problem
L103[12:48:14] <Ne​uro> could be messy tho yeah sure
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L107[13:07:00] <Ne​uro> ~~t3 microcontroller case when~~
L108[13:08:00] <Amanda> Never, like tablets they're meant to be under powered
L109[13:08:59] <Ne​uro> tablet comparison is pretty funny cause a tablet has like, triple the complexity, much more slots, much higher max in those slots, etc
L110[13:09:18] <Ne​uro> I would be very happy if a microcontroller could be as capable as a tablet
L111[13:09:37] <Ne​uro> altho I dont think it needs that much, maybe +2 complexity, possibly also a second upgrade slot
L112[13:10:39] <Amanda> Tablets tend to be slightly more powerful than sbc's yes
L113[13:10:41] <Izaya> microcontroller + screen is what I want
L114[13:10:58] <Amanda> Izaya: like, in one block?
L115[13:11:01] <Izaya> yeees
L116[13:11:10] <Amanda> That would be neat
L117[13:11:13] <Izaya> I want network terminals that speak Minitel
L118[13:11:24] <Ne​uro> to me, the main irritation with micros is its basically impossible to fit solar upgrade on them
L119[13:11:37] <Ne​uro> thats what would really make them interesting in terms of sprinkling them about to do their own little things independently
L120[13:11:42] <Ne​uro> now I gotta hook them all up to power
L121[13:11:43] <Ne​uro> like, okay
L122[13:11:53] <Ne​uro> kinda ruins the point
L123[13:11:56] <Izaya> 256-512K of RAM, filesystem mounted over the network, single block
L124[13:13:07] <Amanda> If it didn't involve having to do mc rendering or guis, I might have had the spoons to make such a block
L125[13:13:30] <Ne​uro> lets consider the testing uC that was mentioned earlier https://tinyurl.com/yghwzmuj
L126[13:13:46] <Ne​uro> just not possible unless you give it external power
L127[13:14:14] <Ne​uro> other option would be non t2 wireless card but the t1 wireless card is so comically bad there's barely a point
L128[13:14:31] <Ne​uro> the t2 one is literally 25 times better
L129[13:15:20] <Izaya> The T1 card really needs like, 4x range
L130[13:15:36] <Izaya> then it'd be a really affordable way for wireless access to minitel networks
L131[13:16:03] <Ne​uro> like, I don't think "simple self-powered IC that can read redstone signals and send messages to other computers about them" is a thing that should be impossible, or too complicated for a microcontroller
L132[13:16:25] <Ne​uro> its really not much
L133[13:20:01] <Ne​uro> anyway, this is creative, I can use the creative case which has all the slots in the world and you dont care about power, whatever. Not a problem for me personally rn. but I find it a bit silly. I can certainly hook up an arduino or rpi to do something very similar irl. (id say this is closer to an rpi cause the ram is measured in gigabytes lol)
L134[13:31:04] <Ne​uro> Izaya: yeah that would work too
L135[13:31:17] <Izaya> to be fair that is configurable
L136[13:31:29] <Izaya> personally I found the issue is that they weren't reliable even at really short range
L137[13:31:56] <Ne​uro> probably because of the randomness and hardness
L138[13:32:01] <Ne​uro> probably because of the randomness and hardness factors [Edited]
L139[13:32:04] <Izaya> yeah
L140[13:32:15] <Izaya> boosting their range would solve that for the same sort of ranges
L141[13:32:34] <Ne​uro> well, everything is configurable. I'm sure it wouldn't take me long to compile a version of this mod that gives t2 microcontroller case 999 complexity or whatever
L142[13:32:59] <Ne​uro> just figured it was probably a neat change to be incorporated into the whole thing
L143[13:33:13] <Izaya> the wireless range is configurable also and now that I think of it I might do it for my own stuff
L144[13:33:36] <Izaya> Skye: given how painful OC stuff in AFH is, 64 block range T1 wireless cards?
L145[13:33:51] <Ne​uro> +1 vote
L146[13:34:25] <Ne​uro> alternatively make a 1.5 card that still doesn't have inbuilt wired capabilities but decently longer range
L147[13:35:13] <Izaya> idea might be to do the maths on for reliable 16-block range operation rather than 16 block max range operation
L148[13:35:55] <Izaya> that'd be a reasonable change for the defaults
L149[13:36:33] <Ne​uro> could be nice, even guaranteed 16 blocks is not super long tho. Start for sure
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L151[13:48:34] <Amanda> %choose play with matches or wait for new hardware to come in
L152[13:48:34] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: My grandfather always told me that "play with matches" is the way to go!
L153[13:50:05] <Ne​uro> Izaya: the way its currently set up "reliable" 16 block operation is not possible, at least not with config
L154[13:50:15] <Izaya> oh?
L155[13:50:39] <Ne​uro> mainly because block hardnesses vary so much in minecraft
L156[13:51:14] <Ne​uro> to give the signal enough strength to pass through just one block of water, it needs to have minimum 100 range
L157[13:51:37] <Ne​uro> oh and I don't fully understand the code but you can't just make sure no water in line of sight, since it kinda checks randomly around the direct point to point line
L158[13:52:15] <Izaya> ah, I see
L159[13:52:26] <Ne​uro> basically the code is like this: it will check sqrt(gap) points roughly along the line
L160[13:52:33] <Ne​uro> add the hardness of blocks at those points
L161[13:52:42] <Ne​uro> and if hardness + gap < strength, signal goes through
L162[13:53:35] <Ne​uro> so even if you have just one of the few blocks mc gives really high hardness lying about, if it happens to be checked, any signal that doesn't have t2's ridiculous 400 str will get nixed
L163[13:53:44] <Ne​uro> you can see hardnesses here: https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Breaking
L164[13:54:20] <Izaya> that's a neat detail that the best faraday cage would be water
L165[13:54:20] <Ne​uro> to me the only obvious way to get truly reliable 16 block operation would be to just bypass that code entirely, but thats obviously not just a config job
L166[13:54:39] <Ne​uro> well yes and no
L167[13:54:45] <Ne​uro> since it has to choose to check the water
L168[13:55:00] <Ne​uro> 1 block layer of water would do little
L169[13:55:06] <Ne​uro> surrounded by a ton, maybe
L170[13:55:30] <Ne​uro> the code is here, line 104:
L171[13:55:30] <Ne​uro> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/af2db43c53b9690fceabfb813987572bf2258db5/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/server/network/WirelessNetwork.scala
L172[13:55:45] <Ne​uro> or rather thats the subcode for hardness checks
L173[13:55:45] <Izaya> under da sea would be the best faraday cage
L174[13:55:52] <Ne​uro> the main computereachable function is line 76
L175[13:56:03] <Ne​uro> was surprisingly hard to find lol cause, well, java moment
L176[13:56:26] <Izaya> welcome to OOP hell we hope you enjoy your stay please check out the FactoryFactoryFactoryFactoryFactoryFactories
L177[13:56:49] <Ne​uro> 🅱️eans
L178[13:58:46] <Ne​uro> either way, if you say you have no blocks of hardness above 5 in the vicinity
L179[13:59:03] <Ne​uro> which isnt super hard, mainly no water no lava no obsidian/derivatives
L180[13:59:22] <Ne​uro> that means any signal will have up to sqrt(gap) * 5 strength taken away
L181[13:59:36] <Izaya> bumping the range up to 64 should nicely solve the reliability issues within a chunk or so's distance
L182[13:59:58] <Ne​uro> yeah, sqrt(16) * 5 means - 20 str
L183[14:00:15] <Ne​uro> so 36 str should guarantee 16 block messages if you dont have anything above hardness 5
L184[14:00:39] <Ne​uro> obviously thats worst case, a lot of the times those random blocks will be air
L185[14:00:46] <Ne​uro> its just about the few times they aren't
L186[14:02:15] <Ne​uro> actually wait its even more than -20?
L187[14:02:52] <Ne​uro> > hardness *= gap / samples
L188[14:02:52] <Ne​uro> I don't fully get this line but that implies 4 samples of hardness 5 should subtract a whopping 80 strength
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L192[14:03:14] <Ne​uro> since that becomes hardness = 20 * (16/4)
L193[14:04:11] <Ne​uro> no wonder the t1 wireless card is so ass
L194[14:04:43] <Ne​uro> if it hits anything with a hardness above, like, one, it has no chance of going through
L195[14:05:04] <Va​ur> %tonk
L196[14:05:05] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 31 minutes and 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L197[14:05:06] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 31 minutes and 25 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00452 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L198[14:05:30] <Izaya> yeah that checks out
L199[14:05:44] <Izaya> I was using it like 5 blocks away and it hardly worked
L200[14:06:19] <Forec​aster> just use tunnels all the time :D
L201[14:06:28] <Ne​uro> certainly sounds like it could use an upgrade
L202[14:07:52] <Ne​uro> nyway guess someone could open an issue on it
L203[14:07:58] <Ne​uro> "make t1 wireless card not bad"
L204[14:09:10] <Ne​uro> and that code is harsh, a single block of water checked would make it impossible for even t2 to go through because scaling
L205[14:10:20] <Ne​uro> if you send a 16 block message with t2, 3 samples are air 1 is water, now your hardness is 400. wont go through
L206[14:11:21] <Ne​uro> I dont fully know if water/lava's ostensible hardness is what block.getBlockHardness returns tho
L207[14:11:27] <Ne​uro> so, it might not be so bad
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L209[14:53:24] <Amanda> %remindme 10m try again
L210[14:53:25] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "try again" in 10m at 11/22/2021 03:03:24 PM
L211[15:03:25] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: try again
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L214[16:27:34] <Forec​aster> %sip
L215[16:27:35] <MichiBot> You drink a mutable rainbow potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a diamond golem until they see a unicorn.
L216[16:27:51] <Forec​aster> well, there are worse materials I guess
L217[16:29:50] <Z0id​berg> Let's just decomission Java as a usable product
L218[16:30:05] <Z0id​berg> Take C# with it
L219[16:30:09] <Forec​aster> good luck with that
L220[16:30:21] <Z0id​berg> "4 billion devices are infected with Java"
L221[16:32:22] <Va​ur> %sip
L222[16:32:23] <MichiBot> You drink a porous boneboo potion (New!). Vaur feels like one particular wasp has it out for them suddenly.
L223[16:33:20] <Forec​aster> yes, people have opinions about programming languages, excellent
L224[16:58:32] <Ton​atsi> I have a question about OC and Lua:
L225[16:58:32] <Ton​atsi> I'm creating a system that automatically updates modules. Now, the problem I run into is that other programs that are running that require() the module use the cached module. would setting the package.loaded entry to nil and then immediately requiring it in a program refresh it for all the other programs seamlessly?
L226[16:58:35] <Ton​atsi> I have a question about OC and Lua:
L227[16:58:35] <Ton​atsi> I'm creating a system that automatically updates modules. Now, the problem I run into is that other programs that are running that require() the module use the cached module. would setting the package.loaded entry to nil and then immediately requiring it in a program refresh it for all the other programs near-seamlessly? [Edited]
L228[17:01:12] <Ton​atsi> hmm no that isn't working
L229[17:05:17] <Ne​uro> sounds like a mess tbh
L230[17:05:27] <Ne​uro> can't think of a better way around your original problem?
L231[17:07:06] <Ne​uro> >Tonatsi: I have a question about OC and Lua:
L232[17:07:06] <Ne​uro> I…
L233[17:07:06] <Ne​uro> that will cause the local script to refresh, it shouldn't affect any other ones tho
L234[17:07:51] <Ton​atsi> >Neuro: can't think of a better way around your…
L235[17:07:51] <Ton​atsi> The easiest method would be a reboot
L236[17:07:54] <Ton​atsi> but I really have no way to do that
L237[17:08:06] <Ton​atsi> The problem is that I want an option to not need to
L238[17:08:13] <Ton​atsi> and also not need to effectively reboot the device
L239[17:08:25] <Ton​atsi> by forcefully shutting down all programs using the library
L240[17:08:27] <Ne​uro> computer.shutdown(true)?
L241[17:08:40] <Ton​atsi> It's more I want to avoid shutting down in the first place
L242[17:08:45] <Ton​atsi> I'm trying to make something that does a seamless update
L243[17:08:54] <Ne​uro> as far as I can tell
L244[17:09:07] <Ne​uro> every script running those modules would need to contain some sort of trigger that tells it to update
L245[17:09:17] <Ne​uro> which another updater script could then trigger
L246[17:09:38] <Ne​uro> i dont think theres a setting that somehow autodetects modules being changed and re-loads them
L247[17:10:01] <Ne​uro> you could use a service instead of a module
L248[17:10:15] <Ne​uro> so a piece of code that instead of being copied and run, is sent stuff to do and sends out responses
L249[17:10:22] <Ne​uro> then you could just change that
L250[17:10:49] <Forec​aster> you can nil the cached module
L251[17:12:17] <Forec​aster> @Tonatsi `package.loaded["module"] = nil`
L252[17:12:46] <Ne​uro> yes they already mentioned trying that
L253[17:12:48] <Ton​atsi> >Forecaster: <@!271320187876147201> `package.loaded[…
L254[17:12:49] <Ton​atsi> I tried that and it doesnt work
L255[17:12:56] <Ton​atsi> It only affects newly loaded scripts
L256[17:12:59] <Ne​uro> the problem was getting other scripts running the module to also update
L257[17:12:59] <Ton​atsi> not scripts already loaded
L258[17:13:17] <Ton​atsi> without having to re-require them
L259[17:13:24] <Ton​atsi> without them having to re-require the module [Edited]
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L261[17:23:29] <Amanda> Like a phoenix rising from the ashes, I (and my home LAN) live!
L262[17:23:47] <Amanda> That was way more of a cluster fuck to do than I was expecting
L263[17:24:21] <Ocawes​ome101> lel
L264[17:25:28] <Ne​uro> hm? what did you do
L265[17:29:01] <Amanda> Switched the subnet I'm using for my LAN. turns out either unifi, or the unifi terraform provider I'm using doesn't handle that well.
L266[17:29:24] <Ne​uro> neat
L267[17:48:06] <Amanda> %choose spoon debt?
L268[17:48:06] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I don't think I've heard of "spoon debt", so probably not.
L269[17:48:20] <Amanda> Probably for the best, we'll see how I feel in a hour or so
L270[17:48:35] <Amanda> %remindme 1h try and get ipv6 working if you found some spoons
L271[17:48:36] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "try and get ipv6 working if you found some spoons" in 1h at 11/22/2021 06:48:35 PM
L272[17:50:11] <Amanda> dequbed: Would you call it a SPoF if it's actually many individual things, that if any single one goes down the whole system bursts into flames?
L273[17:51:35] <Amanda> %choose halucinate or irradiate
L274[17:51:35] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Once you get a taste of "halucinate" you can't stop.
L275[17:51:37] <Ne​uro> mpof lol
L276[18:01:37] <Amanda> @Ashirg Called it!
L277[18:02:06] <Amanda> at least, I partially called it
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L280[18:14:49] <dequbed> Amanda: Uh well no you see in the business we prefer to describe such an arrangement as an "motherfucking clusterfuck" instead.
L281[18:18:21] <dequbed> Or well if you build one it's called an "proficient highly interlinked service nexus providing high assurances for singular services" which is just fancy speak for "no fuck you the mail server wasn't down you just couldn't reach it because the VPN gateway broke taking down the internal network and print spoolers with them. It's *not my fault*!"
L282[18:18:52] <Amanda> dequbed: sounds about right. I spent all meowning resolving such a clusterfuck of my own making
L283[18:25:00] <dequbed> Amanda: Well see there's a reason why it's called "terraform". It *can* accidentally terraform your setup the "glassing" kind if you're not careful :P
L284[18:38:08] <Amanda> okay, still some lingering fuckery, brb
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L287[18:48:36] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: try and get ipv6 working if you found some spoons
L288[18:51:38] * Michi sigh
L289[18:52:00] <Amanda> Meow?
L290[18:52:11] <Michi> I'm an idiot, and nuked my local proxmox install... I still have the iSCSI disk sitting on the storage server, and I need to get data off of a VM's drive.. but I have no way to USE this damn iSCSI disk
L291[18:52:20] <Amanda> ah
L292[18:52:44] <Michi> I can't mount it on one of the linux VMs I have, I mounted the VHDx in windows, but even with ext support it can't read it
L293[18:53:59] <Forec​aster> maybe its just too dry, submerge it in olive oil
L294[18:55:05] <Michi> Now I'm trying to install Proxmox in ANOTHER VM with the iSCSI disk mounted directly
L295[18:56:49] <Forec​aster> well now it's my turn to sigh
L296[18:56:53] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/yxg7hq4k
L297[18:56:54] <Forec​aster> This is great
L298[18:57:21] <Michi> Fun
L299[18:58:06] <Forec​aster> this is one of those collections where all the episode numbers are wrong compared with the standard order on tvdb...
L300[18:58:38] <Forec​aster> what's even more fun is this: https://tinyurl.com/y4ychn9o
L301[18:59:11] <Forec​aster> "No episode in registry" means there's a file with a number that doesn't correspond to an episode on tvdb
L302[18:59:20] <Forec​aster> and missing file is the reverse
L303[18:59:41] <Forec​aster> it's always a load of work to sort these out...
L304[18:59:55] <Forec​aster> but at least my file naming script tells me these things now...
L305[19:00:31] <Ne​uro> TAS?
L306[19:00:47] <Forec​aster> yes
L307[19:00:49] <Ne​uro> nvm yeah thats deffo tas
L308[19:00:59] <Ne​uro> what can I say, good taste 😛
L309[19:04:19] <Forec​aster> bah, I should add a mode to re-number files by trying to match the titles
L310[19:04:54] <Michi> Ok, Proxmox with the VHDx mounted directly "works" I have my 12 disks, I just need to get access to them
L311[19:05:59] <Michi> Sadly the VM Configs were on the now... wiped server
L312[19:06:44] <Amanda> Well, I hope you learned a valuable lesson young lady, always blame the foxes for any technical problems
L313[19:07:03] <Amanda> unless it has to do with michibot, then blame Forecaster
L314[19:07:09] <Michi> Reason ext support didn't work is this is "LVM"
L315[19:07:16] <Forec​aster> this is why you never delete anything
L316[19:07:40] <Amanda> I've probably deleted more code and files than I've created
L317[19:08:05] <Amanda> Us cats aren't known for our data hygine
L318[19:08:28] <Forec​aster> so you've deleted other peoples files
L319[19:08:38] <Michi> I know I have. :D
L320[19:09:24] <Amanda> probably lost at least some files from my friends when I accidentally a server or two
L321[19:16:44] <Z0id​berg> I can not get lemmy to work at all
L322[19:17:03] <Z0id​berg> I was hoping to set up a Lemmy fediverse instance
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L324[19:29:40] <Forec​aster> nice https://tinyurl.com/yyaboz7j
L325[19:30:43] <Forec​aster> but... the next time this happens I'm implementing the re-numbering feature...
L326[19:31:18] <Ne​uro> what software is this? something you wrote yourself by the sounds of it
L327[19:31:51] <Forec​aster> yes, it's a python script that connects to tvdb and processes show directories
L328[19:32:32] <Amanda> It also mines bitcoin unless you solve it's riddles three
L329[19:32:44] <Ne​uro> simple but neat. nice
L330[19:32:54] <Forec​aster> I'm not sure I'd call it simple...
L331[19:33:34] <Forec​aster> it does a lot of things, like the colored text is percentage based string comparison which is what tells me if the numbering is wrong
L332[19:33:55] <Ne​uro> yeah match% etc
L333[19:34:47] <Forec​aster> so if it tries to rename s01e03 from "VariousThingsHappen" to "Various things happen" you'll get a high percentage
L334[19:35:20] <Ne​uro> yeah its pretty obvious looking at the logs
L335[19:35:35] <Forec​aster> but if it tries to rename "Various Things Happen" to "Opposite happenings" you get a <50% value which I've made it color red
L336[19:35:38] <Ne​uro> the low ones when it removes the whole (dual audio dir comm) etc
L337[19:35:46] <Forec​aster> makes it super easy to spot wonky numberings
L338[19:35:55] <Forec​aster> yep
L339[19:36:13] <Ne​uro> tbh thats the one part of this that didn't seem relatively simple to implement to me
L340[19:36:26] <Ne​uro> i dont know how to get python to output different coloured text 🤣
L341[19:36:42] <Forec​aster> it's a library that does that
L342[19:36:53] <Forec​aster> and another library for the string comparison
L343[19:36:55] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y24t4fpb
L344[19:37:38] <Ne​uro> cool, nice arg layout
L345[19:37:46] <Ne​uro> I noticed the "test run" output at the very bottom of one of your outputs
L346[19:37:50] <Forec​aster> it's just argparse
L347[19:38:02] <Ne​uro> good idea obviously lest the script completely butcher something
L348[19:38:16] <Forec​aster> you basically have to do that
L349[19:38:43] <Forec​aster> if you don't the fancy color warnings are useless, it'll just re-name the files to the wrong names and then it's too late to fix it
L350[19:40:57] <Forec​aster> oh... right...
L351[19:41:18] <Forec​aster> this next show each episode is split into two files for some dumb reason...
L352[19:41:28] <Forec​aster> bah
L353[19:41:45] <Forec​aster> at least there are only 6 episodes to merge, so could be worse
L354[19:41:52] <luna​r_sam> i need to write an image converter when i get home
L355[19:42:04] <Ne​uro> >Forecaster: this next show each episode is split …
L356[19:42:05] <Ne​uro> weird
L357[19:42:19] <Forec​aster> I can write something that converts image files into empty files for you real quick
L358[19:46:29] <Forec​aster> I don't even know why I have this, "Fish Police" is such an obscure weird show
L359[19:48:19] <Ne​uro> digital hoarding
L360[19:51:12] <Ocawes​ome101> @lunar_sam just use imagemagick :P
L361[19:51:17] <Ocawes​ome101> unless
L362[19:51:22] <Ocawes​ome101> you need a custom format
L363[19:56:41] <Michi> FINALLY found the right image, mounted it with ntfs-3g, and now zipping my Minecraft world.
L364[19:56:42] <Michi> whew.
L365[19:56:52] <Forec​aster> hooray
L366[19:57:14] <Michi> then I have to figure out how to get a couple of gigs off of this linux vm easily
L367[19:57:29] <Forec​aster> easily? hah
L368[20:03:09] <Amanda> very steady hands and a magnatised needle
L369[20:04:32] <Forec​aster> or very steady magnetised hands
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L371[20:08:31] <Z0id​berg> Has anyone used Fedora CoreOS? (Not to be confused with Fedora Core)
L372[20:08:48] <Z0id​berg> Apparently it is what replaced CoreOS
L373[20:09:55] <CompanionCube> not mw
L374[20:15:53] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: if nothing new was charged to $OLD_BANK transfer the rest of the funds and close the account.
L375[20:21:10] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L376[20:21:12] <MichiBot> Yippee! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 31 minutes and 25 seconds (By 1 hour, 44 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L377[20:21:13] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 4.28843264, Position #1
L378[20:29:59] <Z0id​berg> CompanionCube, what do you think about the potential of a kernel that exposes its target as a virtual machine for all of its software, much like the AS series of computers but with today's tools?
L379[20:30:06] <Kristo​pher38> @Tonatsi the problem is that the already-running scripts are holding a reference to the old table containing your library functions; what you could do is instead of trying to replace the old reference (which isn't possible unless you specifically ask the user to do so), you could replace functions and other elements in the old table with members of the new table. You'd need to take extra care though, as you'd need to make sure that there are no
L380[20:30:06] <Kristo​pher38> external variables that aren't present in the table and not overwrite user-modified variables because that could break stuff on the user end, and also make sure you replace non-table elements in subtables too, as the user can hold references to those too. Generally speaking, little benefit for a lot of work, which can ultimately be done by just rebooting
L381[20:30:36] <Michi> ok, just learned how smbclient works
L382[20:30:38] <Michi> neat.
L383[20:32:36] <Ton​atsi> I could do that
L384[20:32:46] <Ton​atsi> but I've just decided to have it not do that
L385[20:32:48] <Ton​atsi> too muhc work as you said
L386[20:33:45] <Kristo​pher38> i've done more stupid things
L387[20:33:47] *** Michi is now known as Michiyo
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L389[20:34:58] <Kristo​pher38> like "hooking" into function calls, meaning you could run your own function when a specific other function gets called
L390[20:36:44] <Kristo​pher38> but took it to next level and made it possible for multiple functions to be ran for one function call, in the order you desire by having a linked list of functions lol
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L392[20:37:14] zsh sets mode: +o on Michiyo
L393[20:37:26] <Michiyo> There, got my theme back, and auto ident with SASL
L394[20:37:34] <Ton​atsi> are you mad
L395[20:38:19] <Kristo​pher38> no, i needed it to keep the code clean and i'll go to great lengths to do that
L396[20:38:20] <Michiyo> I'm annoyed, but not mad. :P (yes I know this wasn't to me but was well timed)
L397[20:38:57] <Forec​aster> are you hangry?
L398[20:39:15] <Michiyo> Actually, yes.
L399[20:40:03] <Michiyo> yay! My MC world is safely off of the iSCSI disk
L400[20:40:36] <Michiyo> Spouse would have murdered me if I had lost ANOTHER world.
L401[20:41:36] <dequbed> @Kristopher38 livemonkeypatching code much? :P
L402[20:42:26] <Ne​uro> haha, very important
L403[20:42:39] <Ne​uro> i still keep a bunch of my old ancient worlds on a hdd somewhere
L404[20:42:41] <Ne​uro> mementos
L405[20:42:46] <luna​r_sam> >Ocawesome101: <@!175686996461617162> just use imagemagi…
L406[20:42:46] <luna​r_sam> ah yes `convert -i image.tfbm image.lstx`
L407[20:43:19] <Kristo​pher38> dequbed: exactly, but the functions are split between their respective modules, therefore it's clean! :P
L408[20:45:21] <dequbed> I mean "clean" is debatable but I shouldn't be the one talking, I cast random pointers into vtables professionally :P
L409[20:45:25] <CompanionCube> Z0idberg: inb4 'that's just android with a different language'
L410[20:46:51] <CompanionCube> more seriously, what kind of ISA would the target be? Probably not straight wasm?
L411[20:49:50] <luna​r_sam> >dequbed: I mean "clean" is debatable but I shouldn…
L412[20:49:51] <luna​r_sam> i cast things to voidptr and back for a hobby!
L413[21:00:26] <Z0id​berg> CompanionCube I would hope some custom architecture with a homebrew LLVM backend?
L414[21:01:07] <Z0id​berg> That way you could target it with Clang, etc
L415[21:01:37] <CompanionCube> yeah, support would be...difficult
L416[21:03:46] <Z0id​berg> This is the case with any project like that though
L417[21:04:06] <Z0id​berg> I don't think that is avoidable.
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L419[21:05:02] <Forec​aster> .. well this is annoying...
L420[21:05:20] <Forec​aster> for one of the episodes, the second half is just the first half again...
L421[21:05:31] <Forec​aster> so half of an episode is missing...
L422[21:11:09] <Amanda> ... I think Comcast is seriously just assigning me a /128 in ipv6 now. Been trying to get it working for an hour or so, gave up and ssh'd into the fucking udm, and "inet6 2001:558:6027:1b:2457:765c:9716:a1aa/128 scope global dynamic "
L423[21:12:22] <Izaya> this may interest people here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=27512
L424[21:14:13] <Amanda> oh, apparently prefix-delegated ranges don't show up in "ip a"
L425[21:14:32] <Amanda> so back to having no idea why unifi won't let me use ipv6
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L427[21:30:22] <Va​ur> %sip
L428[21:30:23] <MichiBot> You drink a fiery tuna potion (New!). Vaur feels slightly weaker.
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L430[21:31:53] * Amanda flops down around Elfi, exhausted from networking bs
L431[21:33:05] <Amanda> .... goddess damn it!
L432[21:33:52] <Amanda> Oh well, I'm not poking that bear anymore today. Maybe wednesday when the switch + cables I ordered come in
L433[21:34:57] <Amanda> %remindme 1d12h Check if you were giving too large a PD Prefix
L434[21:34:58] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "Check if you were giving too large a PD Prefix" in 1d12h at 11/24/2021 09:34:57 AM
L435[21:40:14] <Amanda> "/60" vs "/64" = 4 hex digits, according to my stupid brain
L436[21:55:42] <Forec​aster> This seems to be working pretty well https://tinyurl.com/y4lqayee
L437[21:59:56] <Amanda> %choose 34tauri or miranda
L438[21:59:56] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I received a message from future you, said to go with "34tauri".
L439[22:00:05] <Amanda> seemslegit.tiff
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L442[22:28:22] <Synt​hetic> Seems my bug from a while ago is an issue again
L443[22:28:22] <Synt​hetic> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/3095
L444[22:28:23] <Synt​hetic> Testing on latest dev build 217 to confirm, but i can't receive modem messages on a rack, but i can on a normal computer
L445[22:28:24] <MichiBot> Title: Bug with rack network | Posted by: GalacticArc | Posted: Fri May 10 03:23:07 UTC 2019 | Status: closed
L446[22:29:57] <Synt​hetic> yep... its not working
L447[22:34:02] <Synt​hetic> wait, could be cubic chunks, going to confirm
L448[22:36:49] ⇦ Parts: lunar_sam (d83d0855c1@jabberfr.org) (Error from remote client))
L449[22:53:14] <borin​gbread> I implemented SimpleComponent on one of my tile entities in a mod i'm making but i keep getting
L450[22:53:14] <borin​gbread> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/maturupisa
L451[22:53:14] <borin​gbread> Does anyone know how i can fix this? I guess it might be because I don't have the right version of the mod in my run/mods folder because there was this link on the github that didn't seem to work for me: https://ci.cil.li/view/OpenComputers/job/OpenComputers-MC1.7.10/. I just downloaded the normal mod to put in my mods folder and added the link to the api to my build.gradle as per the instructions on the opencomputers github page.
L452[23:00:11] <Synt​hetic> Anyone able to confirm this? https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/3485
L453[23:00:12] <MichiBot> Title: Racks do not receive modem_message | Posted by: GalacticArc | Posted: Mon Nov 22 22:57:27 UTC 2021 | Status: open
L454[23:04:16] <Michiyo> @boringbread do you have your code on Github or something easily browseable?
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L456[23:05:18] <borin​gbread> I have a GitHub but i don’t think I’ve pushed my recent changes yet
L457[23:05:30] <borin​gbread> I’ll send in a bit
L458[23:05:59] <Michiyo> The builds aren't on CI anymore, but you can find them on https://maven.cil.li which is where you should be telling your build scrip OC is anyway
L459[23:06:01] <Michiyo> script*
L460[23:07:37] <LEGONIC2018> hi
L461[23:07:43] <Michiyo> https://maven.cil.li/li/cil/oc/OpenComputers/MC1.10.2-1.7.2.217/ if you want to download the jars directly, however your buildscript should work with https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/blob/1.7.10/build.gradle#L43-L48 and https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/blob/1.7.10/build.gradle#L50-L51
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L463[23:07:57] <Michiyo> %yeshi
L464[23:07:58] <MichiBot> Hi, welcome to the opencomputers IRC channel. If you just connected from minecraft, yes this is a real chat. There are people here, but dont expect people to engage with someone who just says "hi" or similar, were (usually) pretty busy.
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L466[23:19:43] <Michiyo> I'm honestly not sure how I'm still awake ._.
L467[23:20:58] <Forec​aster> Persistent annoyance?
L468[23:21:31] <Michiyo> Probably
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