L1[00:05:34] 
<Neuro> wow
ten minutes . . this is gonna be a bomb when it drops
<Neuro> wow
ten minutes . . this is gonna be a bomb when it dropsL2[00:05:38] <Kristopher38> so hear me out, the point
in doing this is that now the programmer doesn't have to worry
about allocating instructions to execution units, instead if you
somehow manage to correctly assign tags at runtime that the
execution units have to wait for, the machine does that for you.
You also get added benefit that the instructions are now dependent
on data and can start executing as soon as that data is available,
instead of executing them
<Kristopher38> so hear me out, the point
in doing this is that now the programmer doesn't have to worry
about allocating instructions to execution units, instead if you
somehow manage to correctly assign tags at runtime that the
execution units have to wait for, the machine does that for you.
You also get added benefit that the instructions are now dependent
on data and can start executing as soon as that data is available,
instead of executing themL3[00:05:38] <Kristopher38> in-order. This lets you
execute instructions results of which are independent of each other
in parallel - say you execute some instruction A, then some more
instructions dependent on A, and sometime later instruction B, and
some more instructions dependent on B, but independent from A or
any instruction dependent on A - you could very well execute both
"streams" as you call them, one dependent on A, and one
dependent on B, in parallel. Also thi
<Kristopher38> in-order. This lets you
execute instructions results of which are independent of each other
in parallel - say you execute some instruction A, then some more
instructions dependent on A, and sometime later instruction B, and
some more instructions dependent on B, but independent from A or
any instruction dependent on A - you could very well execute both
"streams" as you call them, one dependent on A, and one
dependent on B, in parallel. Also thiL4[00:05:38] <Kristopher38> is very useful when you
think about instructions that can take multiple cycles - like
memory loads. As an example to show this: you could have your
execution units wait for some value from memory for a few cycles,
sitting in your execution units, and start executing as soon as the
value from memory arrives, while other execution units could be
doing useful work independent of that memory load
<Kristopher38> is very useful when you
think about instructions that can take multiple cycles - like
memory loads. As an example to show this: you could have your
execution units wait for some value from memory for a few cycles,
sitting in your execution units, and start executing as soon as the
value from memory arrives, while other execution units could be
doing useful work independent of that memory loadL5[00:05:49] <Neuro> LOL
timing
<Neuro> LOL
timingL6[00:06:00] <Kristopher38> lol sorry, i'm trying to
describe it clearly :P
<Kristopher38> lol sorry, i'm trying to
describe it clearly :PL7[00:06:12] <Neuro> no
worries just amusing
<Neuro> no
worries just amusingL8[00:06:44] <Neuro> I
dont get a lot of what you say tho
<Neuro> I
dont get a lot of what you say thoL9[00:06:51] <Neuro>
parallel streaming and the like is all possible
<Neuro>
parallel streaming and the like is all possibleL10[00:06:59] <Neuro> I
mean, why wouldn't it?
<Neuro> I
mean, why wouldn't it?L11[00:07:11] <Neuro> I
mean, why wouldn't it be? [Edited]
<Neuro> I
mean, why wouldn't it be? [Edited]L12[00:07:26] <Neuro>
likewise instructions executing on data arrival is also already how
it was planned
<Neuro>
likewise instructions executing on data arrival is also already how
it was plannedL13[00:07:34] <Neuro>
maybe there is some fundamental misunderstanding here idk
<Neuro>
maybe there is some fundamental misunderstanding here idkL14[00:08:21] <Neuro>
each execution unit has its own independent instruction
<Neuro>
each execution unit has its own independent instructionL15[00:08:24] <Neuro>
maybe thats the bit that is confusing?
<Neuro>
maybe thats the bit that is confusing?L16[00:09:07] <Neuro> the
idea is each EXU is a bubble that interacts minimally with the
larger scale CPU
<Neuro> the
idea is each EXU is a bubble that interacts minimally with the
larger scale CPUL17[00:09:21] <Neuro> it
recieves data, executes its instruction, and passes that data
on
<Neuro> it
recieves data, executes its instruction, and passes that data
onL18[00:09:22] <Neuro>
it
<Neuro>
itL19[00:09:24] <Kristopher38> the point here is to
relieve the programmer of having to encode where instructions
should be put and where results sent to
<Kristopher38> the point here is to
relieve the programmer of having to encode where instructions
should be put and where results sent toL20[00:09:25] <Neuro>
thats it [Edited]
<Neuro>
thats it [Edited]L21[00:09:46] <Neuro> I
mean, if this was something real, that seems like something a
compiler would do
<Neuro> I
mean, if this was something real, that seems like something a
compiler would doL22[00:10:01] <Neuro> no
different to assigning memory automatically or whatnot
<Neuro> no
different to assigning memory automatically or whatnotL23[00:10:17] <Kristopher38> that is something real and
modern processors do this
<Kristopher38> that is something real and
modern processors do thisL24[00:10:32] <Neuro>
sorry I mean, if my project was something real
<Neuro>
sorry I mean, if my project was something realL25[00:10:38] <Neuro> in
the sense that, im not writing a fancy compiler lmao
<Neuro> in
the sense that, im not writing a fancy compiler lmaoL26[00:10:52] <Kristopher38> arguably this creates a ton
more complexity and likely isn't viable in minecraft but maybe you
get some idea out of it
<Kristopher38> arguably this creates a ton
more complexity and likely isn't viable in minecraft but maybe you
get some idea out of itL27[00:11:01] <Neuro>
what I dont get tho
<Neuro>
what I dont get thoL28[00:11:07] <Neuro> is
all your "added benefits"
<Neuro> is
all your "added benefits"L29[00:11:13] <Neuro>
> You also get added benefit that the instructions are now
dependent on data and can start executing as soon as that data is
available, instead of executing them in-order. This lets you
execute instructions results of which are independent of each other
in parallel - say you execute some instruction A, then some more
instructions dependent on A, and sometime later instruction B, and
some more instructions dependent on B, but independent from A
<Neuro>
> You also get added benefit that the instructions are now
dependent on data and can start executing as soon as that data is
available, instead of executing them in-order. This lets you
execute instructions results of which are independent of each other
in parallel - say you execute some instruction A, then some more
instructions dependent on A, and sometime later instruction B, and
some more instructions dependent on B, but independent from AL30[00:11:13] <Neuro> or
any instruction dependent on A - you could very well execute both
"streams" as you call them, one dependent on A, and one
dependent on B, in parallel. Also this is very useful when you
think about instructions that can take multiple cycles - like
memory loads. As an example to show this: you could have your
execution units wait for some value from memory for a few cycles,
sitting in your execution units, and start executing as soon as
the
<Neuro> or
any instruction dependent on A - you could very well execute both
"streams" as you call them, one dependent on A, and one
dependent on B, in parallel. Also this is very useful when you
think about instructions that can take multiple cycles - like
memory loads. As an example to show this: you could have your
execution units wait for some value from memory for a few cycles,
sitting in your execution units, and start executing as soon as
theL31[00:11:13] <Neuro>
value from memory arrives, while other execution units could be
doing useful work independent of that memory load
<Neuro>
value from memory arrives, while other execution units could be
doing useful work independent of that memory loadL32[00:11:14] <Neuro> so
all this bit
<Neuro> so
all this bitL33[00:11:22] <Neuro> all
this is very much possible in the system as I describe
<Neuro> all
this is very much possible in the system as I describeL34[00:11:31] <Neuro> and
I dont mean possible as in I look at this now and think "hm,
thats possible"
<Neuro> and
I dont mean possible as in I look at this now and think "hm,
thats possible"L35[00:11:36] <Neuro> as
in it was already envisaged
<Neuro> as
in it was already envisagedL36[00:14:54] <Kristopher38> well, let me ask, so your
EUs wait for other EUs if they don't have their required operand
yet?
<Kristopher38> well, let me ask, so your
EUs wait for other EUs if they don't have their required operand
yet?L37[00:14:59] <Neuro>
yes
<Neuro>
yesL38[00:15:09] <Neuro> i
mean obviously what else would they do
<Neuro> i
mean obviously what else would they doL39[00:15:54] <Neuro>
specifically, there is a (sometimes) configurable quantity called
the instruction execute delta
<Neuro>
specifically, there is a (sometimes) configurable quantity called
the instruction execute deltaL40[00:15:56] <Kristopher38> not have instructions in
them, or have nops inserted, or have instructions from other stream
being executed there
<Kristopher38> not have instructions in
them, or have nops inserted, or have instructions from other stream
being executed thereL41[00:16:06] <Neuro>
which manages what data has to be recieved to process
<Neuro>
which manages what data has to be recieved to processL42[00:16:09] <Neuro>
which manages what data has to be recieved to proceed
[Edited]
<Neuro>
which manages what data has to be recieved to proceed
[Edited]L43[00:17:12] <Neuro>
well yes they cant suddenly change their instruction
<Neuro>
well yes they cant suddenly change their instructionL44[00:17:26] <Neuro> but
the point isnt like that on every clock or something the
instructions in each exu get updated
<Neuro> but
the point isnt like that on every clock or something the
instructions in each exu get updatedL45[00:17:40] <Neuro>
they are only updated on a code trigger
<Neuro>
they are only updated on a code triggerL46[00:18:02] <Neuro>
part of the original idea was a system that would need somewhat
minimized instruction calling from memory
<Neuro>
part of the original idea was a system that would need somewhat
minimized instruction calling from memoryL47[00:18:36] <Neuro> a
cells instruction changes when another cell sends it data with a
specific extra bit tag
<Neuro> a
cells instruction changes when another cell sends it data with a
specific extra bit tagL48[00:19:02] <Neuro> but
regardless you can still totally do parallelism and the like
<Neuro> but
regardless you can still totally do parallelism and the likeL49[00:19:08] <Neuro> in
multiple ways
<Neuro> in
multiple waysL50[00:19:19] <Neuro> you
could have multiple row0 cells streaming in data from different
locations in memory
<Neuro> you
could have multiple row0 cells streaming in data from different
locations in memoryL51[00:19:31] <Neuro> you
could have a cell set to split a data stream (either duplicating or
round robining)
<Neuro> you
could have a cell set to split a data stream (either duplicating or
round robining)L52[00:20:13] <Neuro>
again, maybe the word EXU is confusing
<Neuro>
again, maybe the word EXU is confusingL53[00:20:18] <Neuro> I
know it has a specific codified meaning after all
<Neuro> I
know it has a specific codified meaning after allL54[00:20:26] <Neuro> but
thats not rly what these are
<Neuro> but
thats not rly what these areL55[00:20:45] <Neuro>
they are simple machines that react on input, process an output,
and send
<Neuro>
they are simple machines that react on input, process an output,
and sendL56[00:20:45] <Kristopher38> no, i get what you
mean
<Kristopher38> no, i get what you
meanL57[00:21:56] <Kristopher38> so how do you actually
write software for this? how could a program look like?
<Kristopher38> so how do you actually
write software for this? how could a program look like?L58[00:22:50] <Neuro>
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<Neuro>
Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/xexuxapemuL59[00:23:09] <Neuro>
(sync syncs a row/column datastream into pairs)
<Neuro>
(sync syncs a row/column datastream into pairs)L60[00:23:55] <Kristopher38> so the waiting for
two-operand ops happens in a separate EU?
<Kristopher38> so the waiting for
two-operand ops happens in a separate EU?L61[00:24:14] <Kristopher38> also how would that look
like in your assembly
<Kristopher38> also how would that look
like in your assemblyL62[00:24:30] <Neuro> if
you want to merge datastreams yeah
<Neuro> if
you want to merge datastreams yeahL63[00:24:35] <Neuro> the
design is semi-clockless
<Neuro> the
design is semi-clocklessL64[00:24:42] <Neuro> so
things kinda run at their own pace
<Neuro> so
things kinda run at their own paceL65[00:24:45] <Neuro> and
there isnt guaranteed synchronization
<Neuro> and
there isnt guaranteed synchronizationL66[00:24:58] <Neuro> in
reality, in a lot of cases a compiler might reasonably assume synch
and skip
<Neuro> in
reality, in a lot of cases a compiler might reasonably assume synch
and skipL67[00:25:02] <Neuro> but
it might be needed
<Neuro> but
it might be neededL68[00:25:41] <Neuro>
>Kristopher38: also how would that look like in your…
<Neuro>
>Kristopher38: also how would that look like in your…L69[00:25:41] <Neuro>
good question
<Neuro>
good questionL70[00:25:55] <Neuro> I
have all the CPU level instructions needed to control and set
things complete, at least
<Neuro> I
have all the CPU level instructions needed to control and set
things complete, at leastL71[00:26:01] <Neuro> the
best way to ASM them is tricky for sure
<Neuro> the
best way to ASM them is tricky for sureL72[00:26:42] <Neuro>
probably, again if you were serious about it, you would write more
"traditional" ASM and some very smart algorithm would
figure things out
<Neuro>
probably, again if you were serious about it, you would write more
"traditional" ASM and some very smart algorithm would
figure things outL73[00:27:02] <Neuro> I
mean modern compilers are already very smart so its not a
stretch
<Neuro> I
mean modern compilers are already very smart so its not a
stretchL74[00:27:16] <Neuro> but
it does need to be said that yeah, this design is certainly worse
at certain things
<Neuro> but
it does need to be said that yeah, this design is certainly worse
at certain thingsL75[00:27:37] <Neuro>
it's almost more what a subset of a cpu might look like, or a
coprocessing chip
<Neuro>
it's almost more what a subset of a cpu might look like, or a
coprocessing chipL76[00:27:47] <Neuro> as
I said waaay up, it's more about processing data streams
<Neuro> as
I said waaay up, it's more about processing data streamsL77[00:28:09] <Neuro> if
you want to just double and add one number, well, it certainly can
be done, but it would be inefficient to a decent degree
<Neuro> if
you want to just double and add one number, well, it certainly can
be done, but it would be inefficient to a decent degreeL78[00:28:40] <Neuro> but
if you want to do that to any decent quantity of numbers, once you
have the grid setup, you can pass through as many as you like
<Neuro> but
if you want to do that to any decent quantity of numbers, once you
have the grid setup, you can pass through as many as you likeL79[00:28:43] <Kristopher38> hmmm, so more like a
dsp
<Kristopher38> hmmm, so more like a
dspL80[00:29:08] <Neuro>
dsp, copper, even a bit like a GPU, since GPUs have lots of
massively parallel datastreaming elements
<Neuro>
dsp, copper, even a bit like a GPU, since GPUs have lots of
massively parallel datastreaming elementsL81[00:29:18] <Neuro> you
have to understand, you are thinking about things that exist
<Neuro> you
have to understand, you are thinking about things that existL82[00:29:25] <Neuro> I
did not design this thinking about anything that existed
<Neuro> I
did not design this thinking about anything that existedL83[00:29:35] <Neuro>
that doesn't mean i'm deluding myself into thinking i've designed
something entirely novel
<Neuro>
that doesn't mean i'm deluding myself into thinking i've designed
something entirely novelL84[00:29:44] <Neuro> but
I wasn't specifically thinking about/modelling after anything
<Neuro> but
I wasn't specifically thinking about/modelling after anythingL85[00:30:15] <Amanda> %remindme 12h check
https://nixpk.gs/pr-tracker.html?pr=146164 before
doing weekly update
L86[00:30:17] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"check https://nixpk.gs/pr-tracker.html?pr=146164 before
doing weekly update" in 12h at 11/17/2021 12:30:15 PM
L87[00:30:26] <Kristopher38> i know, i'm just trying to
draw (hehe) parallels between your design and something i
know
<Kristopher38> i know, i'm just trying to
draw (hehe) parallels between your design and something i
knowL88[00:30:36] <Neuro> ba
dum tiss
<Neuro> ba
dum tissL89[00:30:55] <Neuro> but
yes basically the control flow of the design (which I said I didnt
like but it is what it is)
<Neuro> but
yes basically the control flow of the design (which I said I didnt
like but it is what it is)L90[00:31:01] <Neuro> is
that the 0/0 cell is special
<Neuro> is
that the 0/0 cell is specialL91[00:31:11] <Neuro> and
has a little extra segment that detects whether the cell is
silent
<Neuro> and
has a little extra segment that detects whether the cell is
silentL92[00:31:18] <Neuro> and
if it is, pulls an instruction from a pointer
<Neuro> and
if it is, pulls an instruction from a pointerL93[00:31:45] <Neuro>
these instructions can do anything but the general idea is that it
sets other cells to do things like stream instructions into the
grid
<Neuro>
these instructions can do anything but the general idea is that it
sets other cells to do things like stream instructions into the
gridL94[00:31:49] <Neuro> or
stream data into the grid
<Neuro> or
stream data into the gridL95[00:32:41] <Neuro> to
use instructions I have defined, the very first bit of code that
runs might look like
<Neuro> to
use instructions I have defined, the very first bit of code that
runs might look likeL96[00:33:25] <Neuro>
CPSET
<Neuro>
CPSETL97[00:33:25] <Neuro>
DSTRM
<Neuro>
DSTRML98[00:33:26] <Neuro>
DSTRM
<Neuro>
DSTRML99[00:34:03] <Neuro>
essentially, the row 0 cache will set its own prefetch pointer
(separate from instruction pointer) then stream 8 instructions from
it to the rest of the row
<Neuro>
essentially, the row 0 cache will set its own prefetch pointer
(separate from instruction pointer) then stream 8 instructions from
it to the rest of the rowL100[00:34:19] <Neuro>
(one of those 8 also going to itself, ofc, altho as described
without that it would auto pull the next instruction anyway)
<Neuro>
(one of those 8 also going to itself, ofc, altho as described
without that it would auto pull the next instruction anyway)L101[00:34:52] <Neuro>
those 8 instructions, if set up that way, will in turn have all the
other row 0 cells set their precache pointers
<Neuro>
those 8 instructions, if set up that way, will in turn have all the
other row 0 cells set their precache pointersL102[00:35:42] <Neuro> the
second dstream would then set all of them to in turn dstream across
the column, which in turn means those 3 "meta"
instructions would (potentially) fill the entire grid with a
specific set of commands
<Neuro> the
second dstream would then set all of them to in turn dstream across
the column, which in turn means those 3 "meta"
instructions would (potentially) fill the entire grid with a
specific set of commandsL103[00:35:50] <Neuro>
which commands obviously depending on whats in memory
<Neuro>
which commands obviously depending on whats in memoryL104[00:36:09] <Neuro> the
second dstream would then set all of them to in turn dstream across
their column, which in turn means those 3 "meta"
instructions would (potentially) fill the entire grid with a
specific set of commands [Edited]
<Neuro> the
second dstream would then set all of them to in turn dstream across
their column, which in turn means those 3 "meta"
instructions would (potentially) fill the entire grid with a
specific set of commands [Edited]L105[00:36:38] <Neuro>
CPSET (set prefetch pointer)
<Neuro>
CPSET (set prefetch pointer)L106[00:36:39] <Neuro>
DSTRM (Streams up to 8 instructions/variables to cells in
row/column)
<Neuro>
DSTRM (Streams up to 8 instructions/variables to cells in
row/column)L107[00:36:39] <Neuro>
DSTRM [Edited]
<Neuro>
DSTRM [Edited]L108[00:36:44] <Neuro>
CPSET (set prefetch pointer)
<Neuro>
CPSET (set prefetch pointer)L109[00:36:44] <Neuro>
DSTRM (Streams up to 8 instructions/variables to cells in
row/column)
<Neuro>
DSTRM (Streams up to 8 instructions/variables to cells in
row/column)L110[00:36:45] <Neuro>
DSTRM ^^ [Edited]
<Neuro>
DSTRM ^^ [Edited]L112[00:37:35] <Neuro> and
has a little extra segment that detects whether the grid is silent
[Edited]
<Neuro> and
has a little extra segment that detects whether the grid is silent
[Edited]L113[00:37:54] <Kristopher38> what is this
precache/prefetch pointer you speak of
<Kristopher38> what is this
precache/prefetch pointer you speak ofL114[00:38:23] <Neuro>
lol
<Neuro>
lolL115[00:38:36] <Neuro>
yes, everything I design does have to be unnecessarily
complicated
<Neuro>
yes, everything I design does have to be unnecessarily
complicatedL116[00:38:53] <Kristopher38> no, it's just that the
naming doesn't tell me what it exactly does
<Kristopher38> no, it's just that the
naming doesn't tell me what it exactly doesL117[00:38:54] <Neuro> its
just a pipe inbetween the memory and the row0 cells
<Neuro> its
just a pipe inbetween the memory and the row0 cellsL118[00:38:55] ⇦
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L119[00:39:03] <Neuro>
memory attempts to automatically fill it
<Neuro>
memory attempts to automatically fill itL120[00:39:28] <Neuro>
just a small speed buffer really
<Neuro>
just a small speed buffer reallyL121[00:39:37] <Neuro>
spreads out memory demand etc
<Neuro>
spreads out memory demand etcL122[00:39:51] <Kristopher38> what does it point to
<Kristopher38> what does it point toL123[00:39:54] <Neuro>
setting your prefetch pointer to X means memory will fill X, X+1,
X+2 etc
<Neuro>
setting your prefetch pointer to X means memory will fill X, X+1,
X+2 etcL124[00:40:10] <Neuro>
(incrementing the pointer each time)
<Neuro>
(incrementing the pointer each time)L125[00:40:23] <Kristopher38> X is an instruction?
<Kristopher38> X is an instruction?L126[00:40:31] <Neuro> x
is an address
<Neuro> x
is an addressL127[00:40:34] <Neuro> it
just fills from an address
<Neuro> it
just fills from an addressL128[00:40:40] <Neuro> x
is an address in memory [Edited]
<Neuro> x
is an address in memory [Edited]L129[00:40:46] <Kristopher38> yeah and under that address
is an instruction?
<Kristopher38> yeah and under that address
is an instruction?L130[00:40:53] <Neuro>
under that address is anything you want
<Neuro>
under that address is anything you wantL131[00:41:01] <Neuro>
data is data
<Neuro>
data is dataL132[00:41:11] <Kristopher38> 🤨
<Kristopher38> 🤨L133[00:41:32] <Neuro> the
pointer is something you configure, its not like, automatic
<Neuro> the
pointer is something you configure, its not like, automaticL134[00:41:45] <Neuro> you
can point it to a bit of data you want to treat as
instructions
<Neuro> you
can point it to a bit of data you want to treat as
instructionsL135[00:41:52] <Neuro> you
can point it to a bit of data you want to treat as, well,
data
<Neuro> you
can point it to a bit of data you want to treat as, well,
dataL136[00:41:57] <Amanda> Liizzii so yeah,
it seems the fedi server's down again. Or maybe various people's
instances stoped trying to federate with us since it was down for
so long?
L137[00:42:03] <Kristopher38> so you can fill a row of
your EUs with data by setting that pointer
<Kristopher38> so you can fill a row of
your EUs with data by setting that pointerL138[00:42:18] <Kristopher38> is that right?
<Kristopher38> is that right?L139[00:42:21] <Neuro>
no
<Neuro>
noL140[00:42:34] <Kristopher38> lmao
<Kristopher38> lmaoL141[00:42:42] <Neuro>
there are 4 caches and each can be accessed by one of the row0
cells
<Neuro>
there are 4 caches and each can be accessed by one of the row0
cellsL142[00:42:45] *
Amanda flops down around Elfi, reads to her about a story where
truck-kun's driver gets isekai'd
L143[00:42:51] <Neuro> so
you would set the pointer to some address
<Neuro> so
you would set the pointer to some addressL144[00:42:59] <Kristopher38> you know, it would be
easier if you had a drawing xD
<Kristopher38> you know, it would be
easier if you had a drawing xDL145[00:43:04] <Neuro> and
set the cell to pull from the cache and fill, well, whatever you
want on its row/column
<Neuro> and
set the cell to pull from the cache and fill, well, whatever you
want on its row/columnL146[00:43:13] <Neuro>
sure sec. my handwriting is, like, sooooo bad tho
<Neuro>
sure sec. my handwriting is, like, sooooo bad thoL147[00:43:50] <Kristopher38> didn't mean to push you
into providing a drawing but alright, i'll take that
<Kristopher38> didn't mean to push you
into providing a drawing but alright, i'll take thatL148[00:44:02] <Neuro>
well I also have a whole page of random scribbles that might
work
<Neuro>
well I also have a whole page of random scribbles that might
workL149[00:44:07] <Neuro>
sorry, many whole pages
<Neuro>
sorry, many whole pagesL150[00:44:12] <Kristopher38> monaks
<Kristopher38> monaksL151[00:44:15] <Kristopher38> monkas [Edited]
<Kristopher38> monkas [Edited]L152[00:44:22] <Neuro> but
yeah id need to make something just for this so youd
undersyand
<Neuro> but
yeah id need to make something just for this so youd
undersyandL153[00:44:25] <Neuro> but
yeah id need to make something just for this so youd understand
[Edited]
<Neuro> but
yeah id need to make something just for this so youd understand
[Edited]L154[00:44:32] <Neuro>
>Kristopher38: monkas
<Neuro>
>Kristopher38: monkasL155[00:44:32] <Neuro> I
mean . . of course I do? CPUs dont design themselves
<Neuro> I
mean . . of course I do? CPUs dont design themselvesL156[00:44:41] <Neuro> and
they are not simple
<Neuro> and
they are not simpleL158[00:47:05] <Neuro>
anyway I will draw an image to explain more clearly
<Neuro>
anyway I will draw an image to explain more clearlyL159[00:47:10] <Neuro>
sec
<Neuro>
secL160[00:47:20] <Kristopher38> i usually make stuff up as
i go in logisim and possibly have some design doc that i put docs
for my future self
<Kristopher38> i usually make stuff up as
i go in logisim and possibly have some design doc that i put docs
for my future selfL161[00:47:38] <Neuro>
there is a gsheets design doc too
<Neuro>
there is a gsheets design doc tooL162[00:47:41] <Kristopher38> i usually make stuff up as
i go in logisim and possibly have some design doc that i put in
info for my future self [Edited]
<Kristopher38> i usually make stuff up as
i go in logisim and possibly have some design doc that i put in
info for my future self [Edited]L163[00:47:46] <Neuro>
altho its certainly not as complete as it maybe should be
<Neuro>
altho its certainly not as complete as it maybe should beL164[00:48:20] <Neuro>
this is more the random scribbles notepad
<Neuro>
this is more the random scribbles notepadL165[00:48:22] <Kristopher38> are you implying that
documentation can ever be complete?
<Kristopher38> are you implying that
documentation can ever be complete?L166[00:48:32] <Neuro>
well, it can be closer
<Neuro>
well, it can be closerL168[00:51:03] <Neuro> nvm
discord ui for taking pictures is ass
<Neuro> nvm
discord ui for taking pictures is assL170[00:51:39] <Neuro>
thats a drawing of the leftmost row of the field, row 0
<Neuro>
thats a drawing of the leftmost row of the field, row 0L171[00:51:46] <Neuro> or
specifically, the 8 cells on the right are row 0
<Neuro> or
specifically, the 8 cells on the right are row 0L172[00:52:02] <Neuro>
each pair of them shares a pipe which pulls from memory
<Neuro>
each pair of them shares a pipe which pulls from memoryL173[00:52:10] <Neuro>
again, "cache" is probably not great wording
<Neuro>
again, "cache" is probably not great wordingL174[00:52:14] <Neuro>
they are simply just pipes
<Neuro>
they are simply just pipesL175[00:52:56] <Neuro>
each cache has a pointer and, if it is not full, is constantly
attempting to fill itself with whatever is at that pointer
<Neuro>
each cache has a pointer and, if it is not full, is constantly
attempting to fill itself with whatever is at that pointerL176[00:52:59] <Kristopher38> pipes is not a great
wording either since it has a meaning in the context of operating
systems
<Kristopher38> pipes is not a great
wording either since it has a meaning in the context of operating
systemsL177[00:53:01] <Neuro> it
will then delta the pointer as set
<Neuro> it
will then delta the pointer as setL178[00:53:12] <Kristopher38> i'd just call them data
buses or something
<Kristopher38> i'd just call them data
buses or somethingL179[00:53:15] <Neuro> it
will then delta the pointer [Edited]
<Neuro> it
will then delta the pointer [Edited]L180[00:53:23] <Neuro>
well, they are FIFO pipes
<Neuro>
well, they are FIFO pipesL181[00:53:32] <Kristopher38> ah, in THAT sense
<Kristopher38> ah, in THAT senseL182[00:53:35] <Neuro> bus
works but they have inherent storage
<Neuro> bus
works but they have inherent storageL183[00:53:38] <Neuro> so
not really like a bus
<Neuro> so
not really like a busL184[00:53:41] <Kristopher38> you should've said so from
the beginning
<Kristopher38> you should've said so from
the beginningL185[00:53:46] <Neuro>
sorry
<Neuro>
sorryL186[00:53:55] <Kristopher38> fifo queues
<Kristopher38> fifo queuesL187[00:53:59] <Neuro> as
I said, they are just simple buffering things for efficiency
<Neuro> as
I said, they are just simple buffering things for efficiencyL188[00:54:01] <Neuro>
queue also works
<Neuro>
queue also worksL189[00:54:09] <Kristopher38> well that clears up naming
misunderstandings
<Kristopher38> well that clears up naming
misunderstandingsL190[00:54:14] <Neuro> im
honestly not sure what else a pipe means tho
<Neuro> im
honestly not sure what else a pipe means thoL191[00:54:17] <Neuro>
thats what it means to me
<Neuro>
thats what it means to meL192[00:54:24] <Neuro>
pipe vs stack, FIFO vs FILO
<Neuro>
pipe vs stack, FIFO vs FILOL193[00:54:28] <Neuro> but
anyway
<Neuro> but
anywayL194[00:55:29] <Kristopher38> pipe in the context of OS
moves stdout of one process into stdin of another
<Kristopher38> pipe in the context of OS
moves stdout of one process into stdin of anotherL195[00:55:47] <Kristopher38> you've certainly seen
something like this `cat foo | grep bar`
<Kristopher38> you've certainly seen
something like this `cat foo | grep bar`L196[00:55:54] <Neuro>
well yeah I get that, but we are talking some many levels below OS
level stuff lmao
<Neuro>
well yeah I get that, but we are talking some many levels below OS
level stuff lmaoL197[00:56:12] <Neuro>
>Kristopher38: you've certainly seen something like …
<Neuro>
>Kristopher38: you've certainly seen something like …L198[00:56:13] <Neuro> I
actually have not but I mean I know what stdout and stdin are and
the basic visual of a pipe is easy enough to get what it
means
<Neuro> I
actually have not but I mean I know what stdout and stdin are and
the basic visual of a pipe is easy enough to get what it
meansL199[00:56:39] <Kristopher38> yeah but pipe didn't have
any meaning in the lowlevel sense for me
<Kristopher38> yeah but pipe didn't have
any meaning in the lowlevel sense for meL200[00:56:52] <Neuro> ah
ok, well, thats the meaning i had attached to it
<Neuro> ah
ok, well, thats the meaning i had attached to itL201[00:56:53] <Kristopher38> well whatever
<Kristopher38> well whateverL202[00:56:58] <Neuro>
dont know from where but I dont think I made it up at least
<Neuro>
dont know from where but I dont think I made it up at leastL203[00:57:20] <Kristopher38> that's certainly an
interesting architecture you've got there
<Kristopher38> that's certainly an
interesting architecture you've got thereL204[00:57:28] <Neuro>
really? lmao
<Neuro>
really? lmaoL205[00:57:37] <Kristopher38> reminds me a bit of
fpgas
<Kristopher38> reminds me a bit of
fpgasL206[00:57:39] <Neuro> I'm
aware that it's interesting
<Neuro> I'm
aware that it's interestingL207[00:57:45] <Neuro> the
old design was much more standard
<Neuro> the
old design was much more standardL208[00:57:56] <Neuro> 4
cores, basic. instruction in, instruction out. repeat
<Neuro> 4
cores, basic. instruction in, instruction out. repeatL209[00:58:04] <Neuro>
real basic tier stuff
<Neuro>
real basic tier stuffL210[00:58:18] <Neuro>
obviously ive done that now, even if its not complete
<Neuro>
obviously ive done that now, even if its not completeL211[00:58:23] <Neuro> im
not gonna do it again, now am I
<Neuro> im
not gonna do it again, now am IL212[00:58:38] <Kristopher38> like, an fpga has its basic
elements arranged in a grid and between those are column and row
interconnects
<Kristopher38> like, an fpga has its basic
elements arranged in a grid and between those are column and row
interconnectsL213[00:58:51] <Neuro>
know what an FPGA is, didnt know that directly
<Neuro>
know what an FPGA is, didnt know that directlyL214[00:59:01] <Neuro> but
those gates are bitlogic gates not execution units, right?
<Neuro> but
those gates are bitlogic gates not execution units, right?L215[00:59:54] <Kristopher38> yeah kind of, your concept
is a programmable data processing unit, fpga is pressetable
hardware i guess
<Kristopher38> yeah kind of, your concept
is a programmable data processing unit, fpga is pressetable
hardware i guessL216[00:59:58] <Kristopher38> yeah kind of, your concept
is a programmable data processing unit, fpga is pressetable
hardware i guess you could call it [Edited]
<Kristopher38> yeah kind of, your concept
is a programmable data processing unit, fpga is pressetable
hardware i guess you could call it [Edited]L217[01:00:16] <Neuro>
yeah its weird
<Neuro>
yeah its weirdL218[01:00:31] <Neuro> its
main downside is the fact its hard to set it efficiently
<Neuro> its
main downside is the fact its hard to set it efficientlyL219[01:00:52] <Neuro> but
you can at least theoretically conceive of really dense encodings
that could do a lot of things at once
<Neuro> but
you can at least theoretically conceive of really dense encodings
that could do a lot of things at onceL220[01:01:05] <Neuro> I
mean, you have a pool of 64 instructions stored, in a sense
<Neuro> I
mean, you have a pool of 64 instructions stored, in a senseL222[01:01:11] <Neuro> you
can do quite a bit with 64 instructions
<Neuro> you
can do quite a bit with 64 instructionsL223[01:01:23] <Neuro>
without having to change any of them out
<Neuro>
without having to change any of them outL224[01:01:28] <Neuro>
>Kristopher38: i have a lowres fpga conceptual diagr…
<Neuro>
>Kristopher38: i have a lowres fpga conceptual diagr…L225[01:01:28] <Neuro>
looks similar yeah
<Neuro>
looks similar yeahL226[01:01:32] <Neuro> I
havent studied it
<Neuro> I
havent studied itL227[01:01:45] <Neuro> I
mean, I havent studied anything, I dropped out of uni year one
because I am incapable of interacting with people
<Neuro> I
mean, I havent studied anything, I dropped out of uni year one
because I am incapable of interacting with peopleL228[01:03:40] <Neuro> as
I said, I had dreams of much weirder and much cleverer
encodings
<Neuro> as
I said, I had dreams of much weirder and much cleverer
encodingsL229[01:04:01] <Neuro>
things in the vein of being able to stream data into an empty grid
and have the grid sort of self-set and process based on just one
datastream
<Neuro>
things in the vein of being able to stream data into an empty grid
and have the grid sort of self-set and process based on just one
datastreamL230[01:04:13] <Neuro> no
breaks or overarching control schema needed
<Neuro> no
breaks or overarching control schema neededL231[01:04:52] <Neuro> it
would probably be possible if I gave myself more bits, because
everything is possible with more bits
<Neuro> it
would probably be possible if I gave myself more bits, because
everything is possible with more bitsL232[01:05:04] <Neuro> it
would *probably* be possible if I gave myself more bits, because
everything is possible with more bits (specifically, more bits
reserved to not-data) [Edited]
<Neuro> it
would *probably* be possible if I gave myself more bits, because
everything is possible with more bits (specifically, more bits
reserved to not-data) [Edited]L233[01:05:15] <Compu>
>Izaya: ended up doing this to sanitise them …
<Compu>
>Izaya: ended up doing this to sanitise them …L234[01:05:15] <Compu>
they did that at first but breaking the link and making it again
seemed to fix that
<Compu>
they did that at first but breaking the link and making it again
seemed to fix thatL235[01:05:22] <Amanda> %chooseirradiate
or hallucinate
L236[01:05:36] <Amanda> %choose irradiate
or hallucinate
L237[01:05:37] <MichiBot> Amanda: The
proof is in the pudding. Definitely "irradiate". Now
please get it out of my pudding.
L238[01:26:45] <Kristopher38> Well, that has certainly
been an interesting conversation
<Kristopher38> Well, that has certainly
been an interesting conversationL239[01:27:21] <Kristopher38> But I must recede to bed
now
<Kristopher38> But I must recede to bed
nowL240[01:27:24] <Neuro> my
pleasure
<Neuro> my
pleasureL241[01:27:52] <Neuro> I
certainly don't do these things to share them with people, but I
certainly dont mind doing so either
<Neuro> I
certainly don't do these things to share them with people, but I
certainly dont mind doing so eitherL242[01:28:04] <Kristopher38> I'll be waiting to see the
results of your endeavours :D
<Kristopher38> I'll be waiting to see the
results of your endeavours :DL243[01:28:19] <Neuro> in
good time, in good time. there is a lot to be done
<Neuro> in
good time, in good time. there is a lot to be doneL244[01:33:27] <dequbed> @Neuro I'm just
skimming the backlog atm but have you just reinvented CPLD?
:P
L245[01:33:40] <Neuro>
CPLD = ?
<Neuro>
CPLD = ?L246[01:34:05] <Neuro>
hmm, perhaps
<Neuro>
hmm, perhapsL247[01:34:11] <Neuro>
certainly looks similar, like an FPGA
<Neuro>
certainly looks similar, like an FPGAL248[01:34:36] <CompanionCube> dequbed:
inb4 reinvent the itanic as well
L249[01:34:40] <Neuro>
yeah, sounds pretty similar
<Neuro>
yeah, sounds pretty similarL250[01:34:57] <Neuro> at
least in a very basic overview level
<Neuro> at
least in a very basic overview levelL251[01:34:57] <dequbed> CPLD are quite
dissimilar to FPGA but sure, they're closer than FPGA and CPU
are
L252[01:35:19] <Neuro> yes
because as I said fpgas have more simple base components
<Neuro> yes
because as I said fpgas have more simple base componentsL253[01:35:31] <Neuro>
while CPLD seem to have much more complicated ones, as does this
design
<Neuro>
while CPLD seem to have much more complicated ones, as does this
designL254[01:36:06] ⇦
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L255[01:36:14] <Neuro> so
yeah your answer is . . maybe?
<Neuro> so
yeah your answer is . . maybe?L256[01:36:22] <Neuro> you
would probably know more than me heh
<Neuro> you
would probably know more than me hehL257[01:36:51] <Neuro> I
certainly did not know what a CPLD was before designing this at
least, that I can confirm
<Neuro> I
certainly did not know what a CPLD was before designing this at
least, that I can confirmL258[01:37:02] <Neuro> and
as said I wasnt specifically thinking of anything real when
designing this
<Neuro> and
as said I wasnt specifically thinking of anything real when
designing thisL259[01:37:51] <Neuro> I
was vaguely thinking about a way to maximise instruction read
efficiency, ie how much you get from each instruction
<Neuro> I
was vaguely thinking about a way to maximise instruction read
efficiency, ie how much you get from each instructionL260[01:38:01] <Neuro> and
figured that something like this would be a way to go about
it
<Neuro> and
figured that something like this would be a way to go about
itL261[01:38:12] <Neuro>
since once you have set a field you can use it many many
times
<Neuro>
since once you have set a field you can use it many many
timesL262[01:38:24] <Neuro>
obviously it would not be ideal for everything as said
<Neuro>
obviously it would not be ideal for everything as saidL263[01:38:32] <Neuro> but
itd be good for certain applications
<Neuro> but
itd be good for certain applicationsL264[01:39:36] <Neuro>
>CompanionCube: dequbed: inb4 reinvent the itanic as …
<Neuro>
>CompanionCube: dequbed: inb4 reinvent the itanic as …L265[01:39:37] <Neuro>
itanic? the huge overambitious design that floundered or the
ship?
<Neuro>
itanic? the huge overambitious design that floundered or the
ship?L266[01:58:25] <CompanionCube> the
former.
L267[02:00:11] <Ocawesome101> itanic, or itanium?
<Ocawesome101> itanic, or itanium?L268[02:00:20] <Ocawesome101> the ship was
titanic
<Ocawesome101> the ship was
titanicL269[02:00:40] <Neuro>
itanic is a meme word combining the two
<Neuro>
itanic is a meme word combining the twoL270[02:00:49] <Neuro>
because, you know, itanium was a colossal failure
<Neuro>
because, you know, itanium was a colossal failureL271[02:00:54] <Ocawesome101> ah
<Ocawesome101> ahL272[02:00:59] <Ocawesome101> fair enough
<Ocawesome101> fair enoughL273[02:01:06] <Neuro>
been around for a while yeah
<Neuro>
been around for a while yeahL274[02:01:12] <Neuro> I
knew but was just joking around earlier
<Neuro> I
knew but was just joking around earlierL275[02:12:13]
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L277[02:58:12] *
Amanda offers elfi some snacks, passes out after doing
so
L278[02:58:36] <Amanda> %remindme 9h dump
the switch as card
L279[02:58:39] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"dump the switch as card" in 9h at 11/17/2021 11:58:37
AM
L280[02:58:52] <Amanda> Night nerds
L281[03:28:24] <Amanda> 🥳 I can't
sleep!
L282[03:31:10] <Neuro>
Tell me about it
<Neuro>
Tell me about itL283[03:31:20] <Neuro>
Hope it gets better ')
<Neuro>
Hope it gets better ')L284[03:31:26] <Neuro>
Hope it gets better :) [Edited]
<Neuro>
Hope it gets better :) [Edited]L285[03:40:10] <Amanda> %tell Inari
wasp-proof leafs! https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/11/random-theres-a-new-wasp-escape-trick-in-animal-crossing-new-horizons-2-0
L286[03:40:12] <MichiBot> Amanda: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L287[03:41:02] *
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getting colder out there, attempts sleep again
L288[03:44:08] <Elfi> zzz
L289[03:46:54] <lunar_sam> who the fuck
trusted me with c
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L291[05:45:14] <lunar_sam> https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/oxecobusal.c
very nice
L292[05:55:55] <Vaur>
%tonkout
<Vaur>
%tonkoutL293[05:56:00] <MichiBot> Yay! Vaur! You
beat your own previous record of 11 hours, 14 minutes and 3 seconds
(By 1 hour, 26 minutes and 34 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L294[05:56:01] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
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Position #1
L295[06:34:55] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL296[06:34:59] <MichiBot> You drink a
muddy red potion (New!). Forecaster suddenly forgets a random piece
of trivia.
L297[07:33:03] <Ariri>
>dequbed: But still, oh no two people kissing h…
<Ariri>
>dequbed: But still, oh no two people kissing h…L298[07:33:04] <Ariri>
“Hey girl, are you NSFW? Because I can’t focus on my work when
you’re around”
<Ariri>
“Hey girl, are you NSFW? Because I can’t focus on my work when
you’re around”L299[07:53:59] ⇦
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L301[09:53:07] <Liizzii> > Amanda>
Liizzii so yeah, it seems the fedi server's down again. Or maybe
various people's instances stoped trying to federate with us since
it was down for so long?
L302[09:53:07] <Liizzii> No idea, at some
point i need to have a proper poke at our pleroma instance and
maybe update it, possibly also see if i can't re-do it and actually
document stuff this time around and also not set it up on
alpine
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L304[10:51:51] <confused> Hey there! I
mostly just want to play with the most recent OpenComputers, i
don't care much about other mods. Can any clear up which minecraft
version i should pick? I am confused why there is 1.7.10 as well as
1.12.2 and many modpacks seem to stick to old versions for various
reasons. If i am only about OC on a relatively low powered laptop,
what
L305[10:51:51] <confused> should i
pick?
L306[10:52:34] <confused> Or recommend any
modpack that focuses on OC?
L307[11:01:21] <Kristopher38> well, 1.7.10 is for
minecraft 1.7.10, and 1.12.2 is for minecraft 1.12.2
<Kristopher38> well, 1.7.10 is for
minecraft 1.7.10, and 1.12.2 is for minecraft 1.12.2L308[11:02:05] <Kristopher38> if you're unsure grab
1.12.2
<Kristopher38> if you're unsure grab
1.12.2L309[11:02:34]
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L310[11:03:05] <confused> thanks!
performance did not get worse either i assume?
L311[11:05:00] <Kristopher38> oh i don't know about
performance
<Kristopher38> oh i don't know about
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L316[11:58:38] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
dump the switch as card
L317[12:30:16] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
check https://nixpk.gs/pr-tracker.html?pr=146164 before
doing weekly update
L318[12:43:29] <Amanda> Liizzii: I tried
sending a toot at ariri, Elfi, and izaya, but that doesn't seem to
have done much
L319[12:44:04] <Amanda> My theory was it'd
get their instances to notice it's alive
L320[12:54:38] <Amanda> Oh. Good job,
Amanda, lock yourself out of your laptop why don't you
L321[12:55:12] <Forecaster> Maximum security
<Forecaster> Maximum securityL322[12:55:36] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL323[12:55:37] <MichiBot> Jeepers!
Forecaster! You beat Vaur's previous record of <0 (By 6 hours,
59 minutes and 39 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L324[12:55:38] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 6 hours, 59 minutes and 39 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00699 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need
0.45918254 more points to pass Vaur!
L325[13:15:23] <Ashirg>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683514982884835396/910493637098475520/videoplayback-3.mp4
<Ashirg>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/683514982884835396/910493637098475520/videoplayback-3.mp4L327[13:16:20] <Neuro>
thats funny, didnt know that
<Neuro>
thats funny, didnt know thatL328[13:16:25] <Neuro>
>Amanda: Oh. Good job, Amanda, lock yourself o…
<Neuro>
>Amanda: Oh. Good job, Amanda, lock yourself o…L329[13:16:26] <Neuro>
how'd you manage that?
<Neuro>
how'd you manage that?L330[13:16:46] <Amanda> Configured my
password to an unknown value
L331[13:16:58] <Neuro>
welp
<Neuro>
welpL332[13:17:22] <Amanda> fixed it now
L333[13:17:36] <Neuro> ah
good
<Neuro> ah
goodL334[13:26:34] <Amanda> %remindme 6d
possibly revert b7fd73e8c7974b08ce6316b4b08d14208d8ccdbe if
https://nixpk.gs/pr-tracker.html?pr=146164 is
propogated
L335[13:26:41] <MichiBot> I'll tell you
"possibly revert b7fd73e8c7974b08ce6316b4b08d14208d8ccdbe if
https://nixpk.gs/pr-tracker.html?pr=146164 is
propogated" in 6d at 11/23/2021 01:26:40 PM
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L342[13:52:41] <Neuro> great that this
works from ingame lol
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L346[14:07:09] <dequbed> @Ariri yes yes
eyes on the price and all that but stop looking at my boobs already
:P
L347[14:10:54] <Elfi> Amanda; I received
it, faved, and replied, nothing in return? :c
L348[14:11:22] <Amanda> Elfi: appears
not
L349[14:11:52] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/FoGzdgMcvRBOVrDafxaXxBHN/Screenshot_20211117-091133.png
L350[14:15:02] <Amanda> Elfi: latest I see
from you is your reply to rgegriff about resin reuse
L351[14:15:48] <Amanda> Latest I see from
Izaya is from 4 months ago
L352[14:16:20] <Amanda> same from
Ariri
L353[14:24:15] <Neuro> ok
figured out fast memory access control as was vaguely describing
yesterday
<Neuro> ok
figured out fast memory access control as was vaguely describing
yesterdayL354[14:24:23] <Neuro> I
don'
<Neuro> I
don'L355[14:24:48] <Neuro> I
don't like it a ton because it's a very designed for minecraft
solution, and very different as to how you would do things in
anything more real [Edited]
<Neuro> I
don't like it a ton because it's a very designed for minecraft
solution, and very different as to how you would do things in
anything more real [Edited]L356[14:24:57] <Neuro> but
it has its own cleverness in some ways
<Neuro> but
it has its own cleverness in some waysL357[14:31:38] <Ariri>
dequbed: ;3 <3
<Ariri>
dequbed: ;3 <3L358[14:54:51] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL359[14:54:53] <MichiBot> You drink a dull
oculemon potion (New!). A bard starts playing a lute behind
Forecaster until they have A Smooth potion.
L360[14:55:00] <Forecaster> Aww man
<Forecaster> Aww manL361[14:55:10] <Izaya> Amanda: I post ...
much more frequently than every 4 months
L362[15:02:24] <Liizzii> Amanda, i've
given the pleroma container a restart, try again in a few minutes
and see if that works for you
L364[15:04:54] <Neuro>
birb
<Neuro>
birbL365[15:10:17] <Forecaster> it's a baby falcon
apparently, there's sound
<Forecaster> it's a baby falcon
apparently, there's soundL366[15:11:44] <Neuro> not
for me? idjk
<Neuro> not
for me? idjkL367[15:11:47] <Neuro> not
for me? idk [Edited]
<Neuro> not
for me? idk [Edited]L368[15:11:57] <Neuro> oh
nvm found imgurs mute button
<Neuro> oh
nvm found imgurs mute buttonL369[15:11:59] <Neuro>
what an odd placement
<Neuro>
what an odd placementL370[15:17:10] ⇦
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L375[15:55:30] <Forecaster> %sip smooth potion
<Forecaster> %sip smooth potionL376[15:55:32] <MichiBot> You drink a
smooth sapphire potion (New!). The sun turns into a giant baby face
for a second. It's horrific.
L377[15:55:51] <Forecaster> at least it didn't last as
long as the lute playing
<Forecaster> at least it didn't last as
long as the lute playingL378[15:57:17] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL379[15:57:18] <Neuro>
teletubbies moment
<Neuro>
teletubbies momentL380[15:57:19] <MichiBot> You drink a
prickly citrus potion (New!). A bard behind Vaur suddenly stops
playing. They were most likely eaten by a monster.
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L385[17:04:45] <Ashirg>
>>> “Sigh, another monster. It is hopeless. No one can
save me,” the skeleton said.
<Ashirg>
>>> “Sigh, another monster. It is hopeless. No one can
save me,” the skeleton said.L386[17:04:45] <Ashirg>
“Waaa, the skeleton is talking!” the clone shouted.
<Ashirg>
“Waaa, the skeleton is talking!” the clone shouted.L387[17:04:45] <Ashirg>
The skeleton backed down and shouted, “Waa, the chicken monster is
talking! Wait, you can talk?”
<Ashirg>
The skeleton backed down and shouted, “Waa, the chicken monster is
talking! Wait, you can talk?”L388[17:04:59] <Ashirg>
This chicken story is interesting
<Ashirg>
This chicken story is interestingL389[17:06:01] <Forecaster> wait, is the clone the
chicken monster?
<Forecaster> wait, is the clone the
chicken monster?L390[17:23:10]
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upnp time
<lunar_sam>
upnp timeL394[17:26:11]
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L402[17:52:35] <Neuro> it
would be nice if there was some sort of selective discord channel
mute so all this stuff doesn't show up
<Neuro> it
would be nice if there was some sort of selective discord channel
mute so all this stuff doesn't show upL403[17:52:46] <Neuro> I
guess that would be too useful a feature for discord to
implement
<Neuro> I
guess that would be too useful a feature for discord to
implementL404[17:53:44] <Forecaster> that's probably why there are
unofficial client addons
<Forecaster> that's probably why there are
unofficial client addonsL405[17:53:48] <Neuro> it
would be nice if there was some sort of selective discord channel
mute so all this stuff doesn't show up (not not show up in the
channel, not show up in the sidebar etc) [Edited]
<Neuro> it
would be nice if there was some sort of selective discord channel
mute so all this stuff doesn't show up (not not show up in the
channel, not show up in the sidebar etc) [Edited]L406[17:54:07] <Neuro>
yeah I know there's a bunch
<Neuro>
yeah I know there's a bunchL407[17:54:16] <Neuro>
dont want to be banned tho
<Neuro>
dont want to be banned thoL408[17:56:24] ⇦
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L409[18:03:46] <Izaya> friends don't let
friends use discord; remember to report anyone that admits to using
a third-party client
L410[18:06:01] <Neuro> Big
Jason Protects
<Neuro> Big
Jason ProtectsL411[18:10:23] <Senliast>
hello
<Senliast>
helloL412[18:10:33] <Neuro>
hi
<Neuro>
hiL413[18:11:04] <Senliast>
on the last OC experimental build 217, the rs.setOutput() doesnt
work
<Senliast>
on the last OC experimental build 217, the rs.setOutput() doesnt
workL414[18:11:20] <Senliast>
for MC 1.12.2
<Senliast>
for MC 1.12.2L415[18:11:43] <Neuro>
known issue, been mentioned
<Neuro>
known issue, been mentionedL416[18:11:47] <Neuro> no
clue about a fix tho
<Neuro> no
clue about a fix thoL418[18:12:48] <Neuro>
specifically
<Neuro>
specificallyL419[18:13:14] <MichiBot> Title:
Cannot set output value on Redstone I/O | Posted by: ghost
| Posted: Sun Sep 19 18:21:21 UTC 2021 | Status:
open
L420[18:13:24] <Senliast>
oh okay... one more question, is the issue with computers randomly
turns off known here?
<Senliast>
oh okay... one more question, is the issue with computers randomly
turns off known here?L421[18:13:37] <Neuro> not
100% sure but you can always check https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues
<Neuro> not
100% sure but you can always check https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issuesL422[18:13:46] <Izaya> eternally dubious
persistence
L424[18:14:19] <Neuro>
this seems to be related? maybe?
<Neuro>
this seems to be related? maybe?L425[18:14:19] <MichiBot> Title:
Computers shut down on server randomly. Havent tracked down cause
yet. | Posted by: cadergator10 | Posted: Tue Aug 10
02:52:39 UTC 2021 | Status: open
L426[18:14:26] <Forecaster> they don't exactly turn off,
they just kinda stop
<Forecaster> they don't exactly turn off,
they just kinda stopL427[18:14:48] <Senliast>
yeah the problem is, i already asked for it on github, with
logs,etc. and the dev said that the issue will not be fixed as it
is difficulty respoducable or so on...
<Senliast>
yeah the problem is, i already asked for it on github, with
logs,etc. and the dev said that the issue will not be fixed as it
is difficulty respoducable or so on...L428[18:15:11] <Forecaster> it's very spontaneous
<Forecaster> it's very spontaneousL429[18:15:31] <Forecaster> if it's a huge problem you
can always turn off persistance
<Forecaster> if it's a huge problem you
can always turn off persistanceL430[18:16:09] <Senliast>
i already tried it, but they just turn off allthrough, it doesnt
change anything
<Senliast>
i already tried it, but they just turn off allthrough, it doesnt
change anythingL431[18:16:44] <Izaya> I have a redstone
timer hooked up to a machine with wolbeacon installed
L432[18:17:21] <Izaya> when persistence
works that's great, but I don't trust it so I have that computer
wake up everything on the network
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L435[18:22:15] <Senliast>
allright... well through, i wanted to ask may be the dev can fix it
if he will have time at some point... that would be great. Because
the problem didnt exist in MC 1.7.10
<Senliast>
allright... well through, i wanted to ask may be the dev can fix it
if he will have time at some point... that would be great. Because
the problem didnt exist in MC 1.7.10L436[18:22:49] <Forecaster> it did
<Forecaster> it didL437[18:25:03]
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L441[18:26:52] <Ocawesome101> @Senliast try build 212 for
working redstone io
<Ocawesome101> @Senliast try build 212 for
working redstone ioL442[18:28:23] <Senliast>
thanks. i am currently trying out 216, the redstone here is woring
also
<Senliast>
thanks. i am currently trying out 216, the redstone here is woring
alsoL443[18:30:19] <Ocawesome101> ah so it was just 217 that
broke the redstone io block?
<Ocawesome101> ah so it was just 217 that
broke the redstone io block?L444[18:32:52] <Senliast>
seems like
<Senliast>
seems likeL445[18:42:59] <Michiyo>
>Neuro: dont want to be banned tho
<Michiyo>
>Neuro: dont want to be banned thoL446[18:43:00] <Michiyo>
I've been running BetterDiscord for ages, no ban.
<Michiyo>
I've been running BetterDiscord for ages, no ban.L447[18:43:25] <Neuro>
yeah im not claiming its a guarantee, more like, lets not even be
close to the possibility
<Neuro>
yeah im not claiming its a guarantee, more like, lets not even be
close to the possibilityL448[18:43:58] <Neuro> I
would lose . . quite a bit if I got banned. You can say thats a
fault in and of itself and maybe it is, but for now it is how it
is
<Neuro> I
would lose . . quite a bit if I got banned. You can say thats a
fault in and of itself and maybe it is, but for now it is how it
isL449[18:46:32] <Neuro> I
certainly know discord has been inconsistent and finnicky with
userbots, clients, addons, etc etc
<Neuro> I
certainly know discord has been inconsistent and finnicky with
userbots, clients, addons, etc etcL450[18:46:43] <Neuro> you
know, generic big company nonsense
<Neuro> you
know, generic big company nonsenseL451[18:47:36] <Michiyo>
I've also ran a userbot for the better part of 2 years with no
issues, but I know some people have said they have been banned for
it.
<Michiyo>
I've also ran a userbot for the better part of 2 years with no
issues, but I know some people have said they have been banned for
it.L452[18:47:56] <Michiyo>
So.. shrug
<Michiyo>
So.. shrugL453[18:55:08] <Neuro>
anyway, it was a minor thing. Just one of the many small things
discord could do instead of shilling NFTs or whatever nonsense they
are actually spending dev time doing
<Neuro>
anyway, it was a minor thing. Just one of the many small things
discord could do instead of shilling NFTs or whatever nonsense they
are actually spending dev time doingL454[19:27:14] ⇦
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L457[19:30:18] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL458[19:30:18] <MichiBot> You drink a
mutable bavarium potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a crocodile
girl until they see a star fall.
L459[19:30:28] <Forecaster> dangit
<Forecaster> dangitL460[19:47:36]
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L465[21:33:02] <c1> has
anyone made some way or workaround to run python code on cc:t
<c1> has
anyone made some way or workaround to run python code on cc:tL466[21:36:12] <Forecaster> %tonkout
<Forecaster> %tonkoutL467[21:36:13] <MichiBot> Holy paperclip,
big one Batman! Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of 6
hours, 59 minutes and 39 seconds (By 1 hour, 40 minutes and 56
seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L468[21:36:14] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.008 tonk points!
plus 0.014 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score:
3.7443501, Position #2 Need 0.43718254 more points to pass
Vaur!
L469[21:36:41] <Neuro> wtf
even is this
<Neuro> wtf
even is thisL471[21:41:51] <Neuro> hm,
neat. i guess
<Neuro> hm,
neat. i guessL472[21:43:06] <Forecaster> you should use your blue
shell
<Forecaster> you should use your blue
shellL473[21:43:10] <Forecaster> for reasons
<Forecaster> for reasonsL474[21:43:52] <Neuro>
because you want to pass vaur
<Neuro>
because you want to pass vaurL475[21:44:03] <Forecaster> whaaaaat noooo
<Forecaster> whaaaaat nooooL476[22:09:18] ⇦
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L480[22:24:41] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL481[22:24:41] <MichiBot> You drink a
runny automato potion (New!). A trapdoor suddenly opens up under
Vaur! There are spikes at the bottom. They fail to evade it with a
10 vs DC 15 and takes 1d6 => 2 damage.