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L3[00:04:34] * Amanda beams a silos worth of corn into dequbed's microwave
L4[00:05:33] * Amanda flops down around elfi, reads to her about a "magical" cat girl
L5[00:07:53] <s_a_m> dequbed: i love this
L6[00:08:01] <Amanda> @Ariri did you ever give SCS a try?
L7[00:09:37] <dequbed> s_a_m: fun part is I had that discussion once. It's a fun angle, but it doesn't really work for dynamically or weak typed languages.
L8[00:09:55] <s_a_m> heh
L9[00:10:34] <CompanionCube> doesn't go include a shitty linker or something like that?
L10[00:10:42] <dequbed> Nah the Go linker is fine
L11[00:11:07] <dequbed> In fact all of the Go toolchain is pretty good
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L14[02:09:26] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://imgur.com/gallery/t09WJwk
L15[02:18:09] <Amanda> %remindme 10h fc, aka
L16[02:18:09] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "fc, aka" in 10h at 10/06/2021 12:18:09 PM
L17[02:18:28] * Amanda lays her head ontop of elfi, sleeps
L18[02:18:33] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L20[03:37:35] <s_​a_m> https://tinyurl.com/y65jsbwd
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L22[04:12:06] <Sagh​etti> i love the bl602
L23[04:35:40] <Ariri> Amanda, yes
L24[04:35:59] <Ariri> my NC is bonkers so it I eventually got book 1 downloaded a little while ago
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L30[07:43:16] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L31[07:43:16] <MichiBot> Swell! Forec​aster! You beat Ash​irg's previous record of 2 hours, 6 minutes and 47 seconds (By 9 hours, 27 minutes and 11 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L32[07:43:17] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.011 tonk points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 3.2310901. Position #2 => #1 (Overtook Vaur)
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L36[10:53:08] <Forec​aster> %sip
L37[10:53:08] <MichiBot> You drink a sour salmon potion (New!). The next pie Forecaster eats tastes slightly less good.
L38[10:53:14] <Forec​aster> aw
L39[10:53:21] <Forec​aster> good thing I haven't had pie in ages
L40[10:53:40] <Va​ur> %sip
L41[10:53:40] <MichiBot> You drink a powdery currentcorn potion (New!). Dramatic music briefly plays in the distance.
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L44[11:33:36] <Amanda> Ariri: ah what do you think of it?
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L47[12:18:10] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: fc, aka
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L49[12:45:30] <s_​a_m> twitch got hacked lmao
L50[12:45:38] <zenith391> oh?
L51[12:47:11] <zenith391> wait as soon as you said that, i saw it on reddit
L52[12:47:24] <zenith391> but ye damn
L53[12:47:28] <zenith391> their whole website source code
L54[12:47:33] <zenith391> everything
L55[13:00:38] <Va​ur> leaked its unsure on how they've obtained that info though
L56[13:02:06] <Va​ur> but entire source code of twitch is out, including database information likes password hashes
L57[13:02:18] <Va​ur> so ... if you have a twitch account, you might want to change it
L58[13:02:37] <Va​ur> and by it I mean your password
L59[13:03:35] <zenith391> wait
L60[13:03:39] <zenith391> i think i do have a Twitch account
L61[13:03:44] <zenith391> I've never used it however
L62[13:03:50] <zenith391> well shit
L63[13:04:12] <zenith391> time to change all passwords (which is the perfect excuse to use my password manager and get unique passwords per website)
L64[13:08:13] <Forec​aster> Also enable 2FA
L65[13:08:33] <zenith391> yea i have it enabled on my most important accounts (alongside using a different password for those)
L66[13:08:37] <zenith391> but for other account I don't
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L69[13:19:42] <dequbed> What hash does Twitch use?
L70[13:26:38] <s_a_m> inb4 md5 or a magic "twitch hashing algorithm"
L71[13:26:56] <zenith391> ahah funny
L72[13:26:59] <zenith391> you almost made me scared
L73[13:27:04] <zenith391> right?
L74[13:27:07] <zenith391> it's a joke right?
L75[13:27:21] <Amanda> rot13
L76[13:27:39] <zenith391> I think they use the blockchain-based secure rot0
L77[13:27:52] <s_a_m> it's a joke, i haven't looked at the sauce
L78[13:27:59] <zenith391> yea ik
L79[13:28:05] <s_a_m> i wanted to look into how hashing algos worked
L80[13:28:26] <s_a_m> like, specifically bcrypt
L81[13:30:39] <dequbed> s_a_m: Short version, to a fucktons of rounds of whatever cryptographic hash function at hand, use enough memory to make FPGA and ASIC too expensive and tune memory access to produce as many cache misses as possible.
L82[13:30:45] <dequbed> s/to/do
L83[13:30:45] <MichiBot> <dequbed> s_a_m: Short version, do a fucktons of rounds of whatever cryptographic hash function at hand, use enough memory to make FPGA and ASIC too expensive and tune memory access to produce as many cache misses as possible.
L84[13:31:14] <s_a_m> dequbed: [x] neat
L85[13:33:40] <dequbed> More in detail: Expand input to a few KB for #2, and take data from all over that area for #2. If you make the places for #2 also depend on the input and/or make the reads unaligned you make memory busses extra angry.
L86[13:34:00] <dequbed> And replace one of those #2 with #1
L87[13:39:08] <s_a_m> wew
L88[14:07:05] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L89[14:07:06] <MichiBot> Crud! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 6 hours, 23 minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L90[14:07:07] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours, 23 minutes and 49 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.0064)
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L94[15:49:30] <Mic​hiyo> https://tinyurl.com/y2bykjbz
L95[15:49:31] <Mic​hiyo> whyyyyyy
L96[15:49:57] <Forec​aster> .07 is plenty
L97[15:50:09] <Mic​hiyo> this is 1GB!
L98[15:50:12] <Mic​hiyo> q_q
L99[15:58:40] <Forec​aster> they're not distilling the gigabits correctly
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L101[16:04:07] <Inari> nep
L102[16:04:20] <Inari> Amanda: wood is better
L103[16:04:43] <Amanda> Inari: I can't make concrete out of wood though
L104[16:05:08] <Inari> concrete is bad fo rthe environmnet nayway
L105[16:05:26] <Amanda> %choose factory or poke at miranda to try and make her happy for the weekly update
L106[16:05:27] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Oh no, not "poke at miranda to try and make her happy for the weekly update" again! I'll have "factory" instead.
L107[16:05:33] <Amanda> sounds good
L108[16:06:09] <Amanda> Let's just try restarting https://hydra.camnet.site/build/5794 anyway to see what happens
L109[16:38:52] <Amanda> Inari: ah, but I need concrete to protect the surface from meteors!
L110[16:39:37] <Amanda> the big frickin' space lazor to shoot down meteors requires concrete to construct!
L111[16:51:38] <N03A​YRAL> hello everyone I code a mod and I cannot add a template to the assembler
L112[16:51:38] <N03A​YRAL> do you know a mod that does it so i can see how we do it
L113[16:53:25] <Forec​aster> uh
L114[16:53:33] <Forec​aster> I don't know of a single addon that uses the assembler...
L115[16:54:23] <Amanda> is the assembler even exposed in the API surface?
L116[16:55:06] <N03A​YRAL> yes
L117[16:56:08] <Hawk777> OpenComputers is open source, so can’t you look at how it does it?
L118[16:57:01] <N03A​YRAL> but it seems that its not working https://tinyurl.com/y3gqx34u
L119[16:57:13] <N03A​YRAL> and OC is in scala
L120[16:57:26] <Amanda> ... and the award for the most useless screenshot goes to...
L121[16:57:31] <Forec​aster> isn't is saying something in the log when it's registering it?
L122[16:58:30] <Hawk777> > and OC is in Scala
L123[16:58:30] <Hawk777> Yeah it is, but even though I’d never touched Scala before, I found it not too hard to read.
L124[16:58:33] <N03A​YRAL> yes but precisely nothing is happening
L125[16:59:12] <Forec​aster> yes what
L126[17:00:28] <N03A​YRAL> well normally it should work
L127[17:01:30] <Forec​aster> you don't say
L128[17:02:12] <N03A​YRAL> I did not understand
L129[17:02:38] <Forec​aster> does the log say something about registering assembler templates or not
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L131[17:03:53] <N03A​YRAL> yes for what OC records but for mine nothing happens
L132[17:04:09] <Forec​aster> maybe it's not actually being called then
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L134[17:05:53] <N03A​YRAL> that's what I said to myself, that's why I'm looking for another mod that does it, to know how we do it
L135[17:06:43] <Amanda> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/af2db43c53b9690fceabfb813987572bf2258db5/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/common/template/RobotTemplate.scala#L55 Looks rather straight-forward to me for an example
L136[17:08:18] <N03A​YRAL> thank you that's probably what I need
L137[17:08:46] <Amanda> all I did was use github search for "registerAssemblerTemplate"
L138[17:08:56] <Amanda> That's literally just part of OC
L139[17:09:37] <Amanda> %choose local or remote nuclear
L140[17:09:37] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I've learned anything in life it's that you always pick "local"
L141[17:09:38] <N03A​YRAL> I did not think about it
L142[17:10:06] <Forec​aster> keep your friends close and your nuclear power local
L143[17:10:40] <N03A​YRAL> I've been stuck for a week
L144[17:11:29] <N03A​YRAL> really, thank you
L145[17:11:48] <N03A​YRAL> 🙏
L146[17:13:20] <Amanda> don't they teach you kids how to use Google and other search stuff in highschool anymore?
L147[17:15:34] <Amanda> %choose go right for the 231k patch or hold self over on the 53k patch
L148[17:15:35] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I'm 40% "hold self over on the 53k patch"!
L149[17:15:45] <zenith391> %choose google or duckduckgo
L150[17:15:45] <MichiBot> zeni​th391: duckduckgo'os, for a complete breakfast!
L151[17:15:51] <zenith391> great
L152[17:21:30] <Ash​irg> %tonk
L153[17:21:30] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ashirg, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 6 hours, 23 minutes and 49 seconds this time. 3 hours, 14 minutes and 24 seconds were wasted! Missed by 3 hours, 9 minutes and 25 seconds!
L154[17:22:03] <Mic​hiyo> Are avatars broken for other people, or is it my internet connection being dumb?
L155[17:22:03] <Ash​irg> It seems I cannot calculate anymore
L156[17:22:11] <Forec​aster> is borked
L157[17:22:11] <Ash​irg> Broken too for me
L158[17:22:24] <Ash​irg> Probably related to this https://tinyurl.com/yxsq8ddq
L159[17:23:02] <Forec​aster> operations do be failing
L160[17:23:07] <Mic​hiyo> It's actually, likely related to this: https://pc-logix.com/discord/yuri/fetchavatar.php?nick=Amanda
L161[17:23:27] <Amanda> wasn't me!
L162[17:25:37] <Mic​hiyo> https://pc-logix.com/discord/yuri/generateavatar.php?nick=Amanda
L163[17:25:38] <Mic​hiyo> hmm
L164[17:25:40] <Mic​hiyo> that works
L165[17:25:47] <Mic​hiyo> Turns out I'm an idiot.
L166[17:26:07] <Mic​hiyo> though... didn't you have an avatar set?
L167[17:26:28] <Amanda> I did, did the databsae get reset at some point?
L168[17:26:50] <Amanda> or maybe the outages my co-admin was having relating to our NC instance yesterday caused it to reverr
L169[17:26:53] <Amanda> revert*
L170[17:27:09] <Mic​hiyo> Less a database, and more a directory of avatars sitting on my server
L171[17:27:12] <Mic​hiyo> so unrelated :P
L172[17:27:13] <Amanda> not sure if you considered an avatar no-longer being available
L173[17:27:18] <Amanda> ah
L174[17:27:39] <Amanda> oh wait, I set it before I did the AmandaC -> Amanda change
L175[17:27:46] <Amanda> does it track that stuff?
L176[17:30:55] <Mic​hiyo> It doesn't but I've changed the file to match
L177[17:31:01] <Mic​hiyo> https://pc-logix.com/discord/yuri/generateavatar.php?nick=Michiyo also doesn't work
L178[17:31:18] <Amanda> code ghosts!
L179[17:31:40] <Mic​hiyo> https://pc-logix.com/discord/yuri/generateavatar.php?nick=Mimiru does though
L180[17:32:13] <Mic​hiyo> Oh....
L181[17:32:14] <Mic​hiyo> I see
L182[17:32:16] <Mic​hiyo> why
L183[17:32:16] <Mic​hiyo> fuck
L184[17:32:31] <Mic​hiyo> It seems I deleted your avatar by passing a malformed URL
L185[17:32:37] <Mic​hiyo> woooo THAT's a bug
L186[17:33:22] <Mic​hiyo> same with mine
L187[17:33:23] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L188[17:33:29] <Amanda> lolol
L189[17:33:33] <Amanda> one hell of a bug
L190[17:34:30] <Mic​hiyo> Oh hey, embeds are showing up again
L191[17:34:40] <Mic​hiyo> slowly
L192[17:40:48] <Mic​hiyo> is restoring 2 avatars worth downloading 20GB worth of backup? lol
L193[17:40:57] <Forec​aster> mmmno
L194[17:40:59] <Mic​hiyo> with my current internet options.. no
L195[17:41:19] <Amanda> %oclogs
L196[17:41:21] <MichiBot> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/?dir=logs/%23oc
L197[17:43:36] <Amanda> !setmyavatar https://nc.ddna.co/s/rgLS8fim7WKFwtT/preview
L198[17:46:19] <ky​ngs> sooo
L199[17:46:43] <ky​ngs> I've obtained opencomputers 2
L200[17:46:45] <ky​ngs> aaand
L201[17:46:47] <ky​ngs> wanna ask
L202[17:46:52] <ky​ngs> if there is any sort of internet card?
L203[17:47:03] <Amanda> not yet, but don't spread your message out so much
L204[17:47:15] <ky​ngs> :monkaH:
L205[17:47:26] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: not yet, but don't spread your messag…
L206[17:47:26] <ky​ngs> is it a secret?
L207[17:47:38] <ky​ngs> it is publicly available on github and ci.cil.li
L208[17:47:50] <Mic​hiyo> I think Amanda means stop hitting enter so much. :D
L209[17:47:57] <ky​ngs> oh lol
L210[17:48:18] <Amanda> Maybe "yet" is the wrong word. But there's been several people who've expressed interest in bridging in-game internet with IRL internet. It's not as simple as in OC1 because it's a true internet in OC2
L211[17:48:51] <ky​ngs> anyway it is very interesting, however, I am thinking about file/import export card. How will it work on servers?
L212[17:49:12] <Amanda> just fine, though if you try and send too large a file you'll get booted off the server
L213[17:49:16] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: Maybe "yet" is the wrong word. But th…
L214[17:49:16] <ky​ngs> I see I see
L215[17:49:18] <Amanda> Not sure if that effects SP as well
L216[17:49:19] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: just fine, though if you try and send…
L217[17:49:19] <ky​ngs> tho
L218[17:49:30] <ky​ngs> where will it save that file? Will it save to the client
L219[17:49:33] <ky​ngs> where will it save that file? Will it save to the client or to the server? [Edited]
L220[17:49:38] <Inari> I'd love to download this twitch source code, sadly I think that would be illegal
L221[17:49:52] <ky​ngs> >Inari: I'd love to download this twitch sour…
L222[17:49:52] <ky​ngs> I would say grey zone
L223[17:50:02] <Amanda> depends on the country
L224[17:50:13] <ky​ngs> Depends on your country, here (in czech republic), it is legal as long as you do not redistribute it
L225[17:52:15] <Mic​hiyo> I wanna grab it.. but I don't want to go to 4chan ::P
L226[17:52:29] <ky​ngs> also doesn't the high memory and disk space pose a potential spam risk for servers
L227[17:52:33] <ky​ngs> also doesn't the high memory and disk space pose a potential spam risk for servers: [Edited]
L228[17:52:34] <ky​ngs> also doesn't the high memory and disk space pose a potential spam risk for servers? [Edited]
L229[17:52:54] <Va​ur> spam risk ?
L230[17:52:56] <ky​ngs> (for example someone having 100computers running at same time in a multiplayer server
L231[17:53:01] <ky​ngs> (for example someone having 100 computers running at same time in a multiplayer server) [Edited]
L232[17:53:13] <Ocawes​ome101> you could make that argument for OC1 as well
L233[17:53:16] <Ocawes​ome101> the thing is
L234[17:53:28] <Amanda> OC2 will only allow a specific amount of memory to be simulated total, across all machines, in the world
L235[17:53:36] <ky​ngs> >Ocawesome101: you could make that argument for OC1 …
L236[17:53:36] <ky​ngs> well OC2 has a way higher capacity, ujp to 32MB for one computer
L237[17:53:39] <Ocawes​ome101> afaik disks only take up as much space as they used and in OC1 they're compressed with gzip
L238[17:53:49] <Ocawes​ome101> can't speak for OC2
L239[17:53:52] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: OC2 will only allow a specific amount…
L240[17:53:53] <ky​ngs> ahhh, so what happens when you hit that limit,
L241[17:53:57] <ky​ngs> ahhh, so what happens when you hit that limit? [Edited]
L242[17:53:57] <Ocawes​ome101> and yeah the total RAM cap applies
L243[17:54:01] <Amanda> I assume the machine fails to start
L244[17:54:06] <Ocawes​ome101> it won't let any more computers run
L245[17:54:39] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: I assume the machine fails to start
L246[17:54:39] <ky​ngs> So it still poses an issue? for someone to ruin the experience for others?
L247[17:54:43] <ky​ngs> So it still poses an issue for someone to ruin the experience for others? [Edited]
L248[17:54:48] <Ocawes​ome101> sort of
L249[17:55:01] <ky​ngs> For example you would craft so many computers, that the server would hit the ceiling
L250[17:55:09] <Ocawes​ome101> you'd need a lot of computers in order to hit that limit, and iirc it's configurable (or will be in the future)
L251[17:55:13] <ky​ngs> And effectively you would stop anyone to use OC
L252[17:55:17] <Ocawes​ome101> also OC2 isn't really very survival-friendly as it stands
L253[17:55:30] <ky​ngs> >Ocawesome101: you'd need a lot of computers in orde…
L254[17:55:30] <ky​ngs> Definitely there should be an option for limit per player
L255[17:55:52] <Ocawes​ome101> per player is very difficult to determine because computers aren't bound to players
L256[17:55:55] <ky​ngs> >Ocawesome101: also OC2 isn't really very survival-f…
L257[17:55:55] <ky​ngs> idk man, the crafting recipes are fine
L258[17:55:57] <Ocawes​ome101> so it has to be global
L259[17:55:59] <Amanda> That just runs the risk of some griefer bringin in a bunch of alts/mates to baloon it more
L260[17:56:00] <Ocawes​ome101> crafting recipes maybe
L261[17:56:10] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: That just runs the risk of some grief…
L262[17:56:10] <ky​ngs> Do you have a better solution?
L263[17:56:21] <Amanda> Yes, what we currently have, a single, global linmit
L264[17:56:25] <Ocawes​ome101> ^^^
L265[17:56:40] <Ocawes​ome101> also, the state of OC2's ability to interact with things inside the minecraft world is quite limited
L266[17:56:45] <Amanda> it's up to the server admins to defend from griefers abusing the mod for everyone else, not the mod
L267[17:56:54] <Ocawes​ome101> ^^^
L268[17:57:11] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: Yes, what we currently have, a single…
L269[17:57:12] <ky​ngs> Well yh, but what if someone just connects to server builds a lot of computers and makes OC2 unusable for everyone?
L270[17:57:20] <Ocawes​ome101> then the admins deal with it
L271[17:57:34] <Ocawes​ome101> the mod's job is to prevent computers from crashing the server
L272[17:57:46] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: it's up to the server admins to defen…
L273[17:57:46] <ky​ngs> Yeah, but it would be nice to have some kind of mod support, because things like this are very hard to control
L274[17:57:47] <Va​ur> I mean by the same principle you can ask "what if someone goes around and blow up people's base ?"
L275[17:57:58] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: I mean by the same principle you can …
L276[17:57:58] <ky​ngs> you have residences
L277[17:58:03] <Forec​aster> only 1 tnt per player
L278[17:58:07] <ky​ngs> I cannot imagine server without residences TBH
L279[17:58:35] <Amanda> I personally just don't play on public servers full of jackasses
L280[17:59:02] <ky​ngs> My point is, people are assholes and this is a potential issue
L281[17:59:11] <Amanda> I don't think the pack that dequbed put together even has a permissions system
L282[17:59:21] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: I personally just don't play on publi…
L283[17:59:21] <ky​ngs> Same
L284[17:59:25] <Izaya> throwback to the CC bug that would perma-crash all the computers until the server restarted
L285[17:59:26] <Amanda> beyond "Are you op?"
L286[17:59:32] <Va​ur> dealing with people being jerk is the point of having admins and moderators
L287[17:59:36] <ky​ngs> I usually play on private servers with like 1-4 players
L288[17:59:47] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: dealing with people being jerk is the…
L289[17:59:47] <ky​ngs> well yh but you cannot have one admin per player
L290[17:59:50] <ky​ngs> to be constantly on watch
L291[17:59:59] <Ocawes​ome101> no
L292[18:00:01] <Amanda> the admins intervene when it becomes a problem
L293[18:00:15] <Ocawes​ome101> but every single player won't do this on every server
L294[18:00:17] <Forec​aster> and you can't magically solve "some players are jerks"
L295[18:00:21] <Ocawes​ome101> ^^^
L296[18:00:23] <Va​ur> true, but someone that built a hundred of computers will be immediatly banned upon being discovered
L297[18:00:27] <Ocawes​ome101> ^^^
L298[18:00:28] <ky​ngs> >Forecaster: and you can't magically solve "some p…
L299[18:00:29] <ky​ngs> well yes, but what about raids?
L300[18:00:29] <Amanda> eg, players report that all their computers won't start
L301[18:00:43] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: true, but someone that built a hundre…
L302[18:00:43] <ky​ngs> Just asking, how do you discover such areas?
L303[18:00:56] <Ocawes​ome101> there are various ways
L304[18:01:02] <ky​ngs> like...?
L305[18:01:05] <Mic​hiyo> https://tinyurl.com/y2nrc7ml
L306[18:01:06] <Mic​hiyo> cough
L307[18:01:08] <Amanda> search for all the TEs that match the computer block
L308[18:01:27] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo:
L309[18:01:27] <ky​ngs> how much is it in total? (GB)
L310[18:01:30] ⇦ Quits: TPG24 (~ThePiGuy2@host-92-17-120-53.as13285.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
L311[18:01:32] <Mic​hiyo> ~126GB
L312[18:01:40] <Amanda> It's not like you have to manually search the world, there can be tools for that
L313[18:01:43] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: ~126GB
L314[18:01:43] <ky​ngs> Well, isn't that only part one
L315[18:01:49] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: It's not like you have to manually se…
L316[18:01:49] <ky​ngs> ok ok
L317[18:01:52] <ky​ngs> Well, isn't that only part one? [Edited]
L318[18:01:59] <Mic​hiyo> It's "part 1" it's all that has been released so far.
L319[18:02:04] <ky​ngs> oh lol
L320[18:02:14] <Mic​hiyo> but it's everything so far, it unzips.
L321[18:02:18] <ky​ngs> could you please send magnet link?
L322[18:02:34] <ky​ngs> finally I will make use of my 4TB HDD lol
L323[18:02:36] <Mic​hiyo> No, sorry :D
L324[18:02:44] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: No, sorry :D
L325[18:02:44] <ky​ngs> damn man
L326[18:02:48] <Izaya> are computronics tapes gzip-compressed?
L327[18:02:49] <Mic​hiyo> That's against the rules
L328[18:03:08] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: That's against the rules
L329[18:03:08] <ky​ngs> even in PM, when I asked for it?
L330[18:03:22] <Amanda> Izaya: I don't think so
L331[18:03:28] <Izaya> interesting
L332[18:03:39] <Izaya> glad I haven't tried my "drawer system full of tapes" bullshit then :D
L333[18:04:05] <Amanda> Izaya: can pretty easily find out, just do a `file` on one... actually do they even store the data in a seperate file, or are they like eeproms where it's stored in the NBT
L334[18:04:27] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: That's against the rules
L335[18:04:28] <ky​ngs> where did you find it at least?
L336[18:04:38] <Mic​hiyo> The interwebs!
L337[18:04:48] <Mic​hiyo> sizeof (dot) cat
L338[18:04:49] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: The interwebs!
L339[18:04:49] <ky​ngs> oh who would have seen that coming
L340[18:04:55] <Izaya> it's definitely not stored in the NBT
L341[18:04:59] <Izaya> minecraft would have a fit
L342[18:05:05] <Amanda> ah
L343[18:05:30] <Izaya> 4.25KB is one thing
L344[18:05:40] <Izaya> 30MB times uhhhh
L345[18:05:50] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: sizeof (dot) cat
L346[18:05:50] <ky​ngs> enables VPN
L347[18:06:03] <Izaya> 1769472
L348[18:06:08] <Izaya> the chunk files would explode
L349[18:06:12] <ky​ngs> I am just going to naively hope that the VPN provider does not keep logs
L350[18:06:22] <Izaya> ah yes, a 50GB chunk file
L351[18:06:32] <Mic​hiyo> Mine doesn't (I provide my own VPN :D)
L352[18:06:33] <Izaya> chunk entry*
L353[18:06:55] <Izaya> a region file is a lot of chunks
L354[18:07:02] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: Mine doesn't (I provide my own VPN :D…
L355[18:07:02] <ky​ngs> well that is not a really good idea
L356[18:07:07] <ky​ngs> OH FUCK
L357[18:07:13] <ky​ngs> Netflix ain't working with VPN
L358[18:07:15] <Izaya> inb4 nordvpn ad
L359[18:07:16] <ky​ngs> sucks man
L360[18:07:33] <Izaya> love me a FBI honeypot
L361[18:07:43] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: Mine doesn't (I provide my own VPN :D…
L362[18:07:44] <ky​ngs> well technically it is legal
L363[18:07:45] <Mic​hiyo> >kyngs: well that is not a really good idea
L364[18:07:45] <Mic​hiyo> lul sure.
L365[18:07:53] <ky​ngs> So it is fine if I download it without VPN
L366[18:07:54] <ky​ngs> right?
L367[18:07:56] <ky​ngs> right?
L368[18:08:23] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: lul sure.
L369[18:08:24] <ky​ngs> well, how do you do it? I also have openvpn-server running on my VPS, but well, the VPS is registered on my name
L370[18:08:28] <ky​ngs> So that ain't a good solution
L371[18:08:46] <Amanda> running your own VPN at least means you'll know if there's been a sopina for your data issued to the VPN provider.
L372[18:09:21] <Mic​hiyo> Who says that my VPS is in my name? Who says that the payment method is in my name?
L373[18:09:36] <Mic​hiyo> Who says that there is anything linking me to anything that said VPS runs on?
L374[18:09:38] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: Who says that my VPS is in my name? …
L375[18:09:38] <ky​ngs> Si how do you host it? (Just curios?)
L376[18:09:44] <ky​ngs> Si how do you host it? (Just curios) [Edited]
L377[18:10:01] <Amanda> Identity theft!
L378[18:10:07] <Mic​hiyo> Basically
L379[18:10:31] <Mic​hiyo> Less theft, and more.. creation
L380[18:10:31] <Amanda> She's running it from some poor bloke in Arkansas' details. :P
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L382[18:10:43] <Mic​hiyo> But yes.
L383[18:10:48] <ky​ngs> How stunning and brave!
L384[18:11:01] <Mic​hiyo> Nice.
L385[18:13:02] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: Less theft, and more.. creation
L386[18:13:03] <ky​ngs> Probably uses Dad's credit card
L387[18:14:15] <Izaya> pay bitcoin to a shady ukranian man for access to a container on their heavily loaded dedicated server in the chernobyl exclusion zone
L388[18:15:31] <ky​ngs> Btw aren't there some countries that don't enforce VPN logs?
L389[18:18:21] <ky​ngs> @Michiyo how high download speed do you have?
L390[18:18:33] <ky​ngs> I have about 1MB at best
L391[18:18:46] <ky​ngs> I actually upload way more than download, for the first time in my life
L392[18:18:46] <Mic​hiyo> My parents have been dead for longer than you've likely been alive but thanks.
L393[18:18:59] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: My parents have been dead for longer …
L394[18:18:59] <ky​ngs> Probably
L395[18:19:06] <ky​ngs> I am a :ZZoomer:
L396[18:19:32] <Amanda> You're a discord emote, git it
L397[18:19:36] <Amanda> s/git/got
L398[18:19:36] <MichiBot> <Amanda> You're a discord emote, got it
L399[18:19:45] <Mic​hiyo> I have 1Gbps symmetrical, but ATM it's 90/60 cause of some stupid outage.
L400[18:19:59] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: You're a discord emote, git it
L401[18:19:59] <ky​ngs> btw, how do discord emotes work one the IRC thingy?
L402[18:20:01] <Izaya> Amanda: how come they render on my screen then? >:|
L403[18:20:09] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: I have 1Gbps symmetrical, but ATM it'…
L404[18:20:09] <ky​ngs> Yo u mad lad, anyway I was talking about the torrent
L405[18:20:18] <Mic​hiyo> 10
L406[18:20:24] <Mic​hiyo> mbps right now
L407[18:20:30] <ky​ngs> if I use cable I have about 10/0.5mbps
L408[18:20:44] <ky​ngs> Fortunately there is a 4G internet available in my area
L409[18:20:53] <ky​ngs> so I have at least 50/5
L410[18:21:16] <ky​ngs> as far as the torrent goes it hangs about 1Mbps
L411[18:21:30] <ky​ngs> It is probably overloaded
L412[18:22:58] <Mic​hiyo> I mean, that's not how torrents work, but ok
L413[18:23:25] <Mic​hiyo> I've dropped back to 8.2 though
L414[18:23:27] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: I mean, that's not how torrents work,…
L415[18:23:27] <ky​ngs> idk man
L416[18:23:28] <ky​ngs> it just works
L417[18:23:33] <ky​ngs> very slowly
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L419[18:23:58] <ky​ngs> ETA: 5 days
L420[18:24:26] <Izaya> downloading 150GB over LTE sounds expensive
L421[18:24:53] <ky​ngs> >Izaya: downloading 150GB over LTE sounds exp…
L422[18:24:53] <ky​ngs> well it is home internet
L423[18:25:00] <ky​ngs> basically 4G with unlimited data plan
L424[18:25:04] <Izaya> they do that for NBN here
L425[18:25:04] <ky​ngs> basically 4G with unlimited usage plan [Edited]
L426[18:25:13] <ky​ngs> I have no idea what a NBN is
L427[18:25:24] <Izaya> LTE in a different band with a typical home use plan
L428[18:25:32] <Izaya> rather than the standard VDSL
L429[18:25:59] <ky​ngs> Fortunately, Starlink should be available soon in my area,
L430[18:26:11] <ky​ngs> Fortunately, Starlink should be available soon in my area. [Edited]
L431[18:26:12] <Izaya> kek https://landofkittens.social/objects/7018f955-ed94-428e-b55a-cf27e0148ea6
L432[18:26:55] <ky​ngs> >kyngs: Fortunately, Starlink should be avail…
L433[18:26:55] <ky​ngs> Tho the cost is very hig
L434[18:27:01] <ky​ngs> Tho it is very expensiv e [Edited]
L435[18:27:03] <ky​ngs> Tho it is very expensive [Edited]
L436[18:29:46] <Izaya> https://neckbeard.xyz/media/94b2f5deea035971d83d096fb187de2738a2ec9287c9ef9ef3999006a107700a.mp4
L437[18:29:51] <ky​ngs> >Izaya: LTE in a different band with a typica…
L438[18:29:51] <ky​ngs> yeah same here
L439[18:29:53] <Ko​dos> How long before someone makes a Twitch stream viewer that doesn't have ads
L440[18:29:58] <ky​ngs> it is just called different
L441[18:29:58] <Ko​dos> Now that they have source
L442[18:30:07] <Izaya> Kodos: pretty sure mpv can do it
L443[18:30:10] <Izaya> if not, there's uhhh
L444[18:30:12] <Izaya> a GNOME program that does it
L445[18:30:20] <Izaya> "GNOME Twitch"
L446[18:30:29] <Ko​dos> Does it block the ads that play before you watch a stream?
L447[18:30:44] <Izaya> no idea
L448[18:30:47] <Izaya> I don't use twitch
L449[18:31:01] <Izaya> are they inserted into the video stream or are they separate like on youtube
L450[18:31:33] <ky​ngs> Those passwords should be hashed right?
L451[18:31:38] <ky​ngs> I hope so
L452[18:31:49] <ky​ngs> Otherwise I would need to change my password on like all of my accounts
L453[18:32:11] <Va​ur> hashed yeah, but rainbow tables are a thing
L454[18:32:32] <Va​ur> and they are super easy to build since the source code is out
L455[18:32:52] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: hashed yeah, but rainbow tables are a…
L456[18:32:52] <ky​ngs> boots up wikipedia
L457[18:33:14] <Va​ur> unless there is a dynamic salt and the database wasn't breached, but since hashes are out ... I'm guessing whole database got leaked as well
L458[18:33:22] <ky​ngs> tho
L459[18:33:27] <Izaya> one hopes they're salted properly
L460[18:33:41] <ky​ngs> If I have a strong pass, I am safe, right? Right?
L461[18:34:01] <Va​ur> >Izaya: one hopes they're salted properly
L462[18:34:01] <Va​ur> yeah, but I wouldn't count on salt since the hashes are out
L463[18:34:39] <Izaya> isn't the way it works is you have the password hash and a salt and you combine the (plaintext) password and the salt then hash it and you can then compare it to the stored hash
L464[18:34:43] <Va​ur> >kyngs: If I have a strong pass, I am safe, …
L465[18:34:44] <Va​ur> you should change password just in case
L466[18:34:57] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: you should change password just in ca…
L467[18:34:58] <ky​ngs> It would mean that I need to change passwords on like 100 sites
L468[18:35:03] <Ko​dos> Change your password no matter what, imo
L469[18:35:07] <ky​ngs> I have 2FA
L470[18:35:10] <Izaya> ie a hash significantly artifically increases the difficulty of guessing the hash
L471[18:35:10] <ky​ngs> it's fien
L472[18:35:12] <ky​ngs> it's fine [Edited]
L473[18:35:13] <Ko​dos> No, you have 1FA now
L474[18:35:14] <Va​ur> change your password on twitch
L475[18:35:23] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: change your password on twitch
L476[18:35:23] <ky​ngs> ok ok ok ok
L477[18:35:32] <Amanda> Izaya: with the source you can figure out what was used to do the salting thiough
L478[18:35:45] <Va​ur> >Izaya: isn't the way it works is you have t…
L479[18:35:46] <Va​ur> that's correct, but source code + hash being out for me likely means the database also got breached
L480[18:35:51] <Amanda> and generate a unique rainbow table
L481[18:35:57] <Izaya> still means you have to crunch the hashes
L482[18:35:58] <Va​ur> and so whatever is used for the salt, can be found
L483[18:37:25] <ky​ngs> oh god
L484[18:37:34] <Va​ur> >kyngs: It would mean that I need to change …
L485[18:37:34] <Va​ur> unless you meant you used that password on other website (which you definitly shouldn't do) just changing your twitch password will be fine
L486[18:37:36] <ky​ngs> My pass on twitch was 12344321
L487[18:37:50] <Va​ur> lol
L488[18:37:54] <ky​ngs> the pass that I used like a loong loong time ago
L489[18:38:01] <Va​ur> also deleting doesn't help for irc users xD
L490[18:38:06] <ky​ngs> which is definitely good news, because I don't need to change passes on other sites
L491[18:38:10] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: also deleting doesn't help for irc us…
L492[18:38:10] <ky​ngs> changed it
L493[18:38:23] <Ko​dos> I deleted it. Old or not, never share your password online.
L494[18:38:40] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: unless you meant you used that passwo…
L495[18:38:40] <ky​ngs> well the thing is I use same pass on like 50 sites
L496[18:38:44] <ky​ngs> >Kodos: I deleted it. Old or not, never share…
L497[18:38:45] <ky​ngs> ok pal
L498[18:38:46] <Ko​dos> Then you'll need to change them all.
L499[18:38:58] <Izaya> 12344321 is pretty weak
L500[18:39:00] <Ko​dos> As well as any linked services you've signed in through Twitch on
L501[18:39:04] <Va​ur> then you need to change password on all website that use that password
L502[18:39:08] <ky​ngs> >Kodos: Then you'll need to change them all.
L503[18:39:08] <ky​ngs> well not, because the you now 12... thingy
L504[18:39:10] <Mic​hiyo> Oh man, wait til you find out that everything is logged to a public logging site. :D
L505[18:39:12] <Izaya> do people actually use oauth like that
L506[18:39:22] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: then you need to change password on a…
L507[18:39:23] <ky​ngs> nope, I only used 123... on twitch
L508[18:39:27] <ky​ngs> not anywhere else
L509[18:39:28] <ky​ngs> fortunately
L510[18:39:39] <ky​ngs> >Izaya: 12344321 is pretty weak
L511[18:39:39] <ky​ngs> ikr
L512[18:39:49] <Va​ur> well ... also change that one password you use on 50 website too
L513[18:39:59] <ky​ngs> why should I
L514[18:40:11] <Ko​dos> ...
L515[18:40:13] <Ko​dos> If you have to ask...
L516[18:40:23] <Va​ur> so you don't get into trouble the next time a password leak happen ?
L517[18:40:43] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: so you don't get into trouble the nex…
L518[18:40:43] <ky​ngs> I am too unresponsible too think about that
L519[18:40:51] <Amanda> clearly
L520[18:40:52] <Ko​dos> Clearly.
L521[18:40:59] <Ko​dos> Jinx 😄
L522[18:41:01] <ky​ngs> I am too unresponsible to think about that [Edited]
L523[18:41:16] <Va​ur> that's why I'm telling you right now ... Change all those password. Now.
L524[18:41:29] <Izaya> irresponsible
L525[18:42:06] <Amanda> Just let the kid get hacked for using fortniterulz123
L526[18:42:11] <ky​ngs> >Izaya: irresponsible
L527[18:42:11] <ky​ngs> Leave me alone
L528[18:42:13] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: Just let the kid get hacked for using…
L529[18:42:13] <ky​ngs> :)
L530[18:42:15] <ky​ngs> :( [Edited]
L531[18:42:35] <ky​ngs> actually that one pass is pretty strong
L532[18:42:41] <Amanda> for some people the only lesson is learnt through pain
L533[18:43:07] <Va​ur> doesn't matter how strong one password is ... if one website has a leak and don't have proper password protection
L534[18:43:58] <ky​ngs> that reminds me shop that had site like from 2001 where I ordered my GPU
L535[18:44:14] <ky​ngs> They sent me my password in mail after every order
L536[18:44:32] <Va​ur> also mandatory
L537[18:44:33] <Va​ur> https://xkcd.com/936/
L538[18:45:23] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: also mandatory
L539[18:45:23] <ky​ngs> https://xkcd.com/936/
L540[18:45:23] <ky​ngs> I've tried those years to break calculator thingies
L541[18:45:27] <ky​ngs> and it said 5000 years
L542[18:45:35] <ky​ngs> so I can have a feeling of being save
L543[18:45:38] <ky​ngs> so I can have a feeling of being safe [Edited]
L544[18:46:30] <ky​ngs> I actually have pass in similar format https://tinyurl.com/yyfgolgl
L545[18:46:30] <ky​ngs> lol
L546[18:47:00] <Va​ur> (still doesn't help if you are only using one password for 50 websites)
L547[18:47:08] <ky​ngs> definitely
L548[18:47:19] <ky​ngs> but I don't have brain to remember all of those
L549[18:47:33] <ky​ngs> and well using password manager
L550[18:47:38] <Va​ur> password manager is a standard feature on modern browsers
L551[18:47:57] <Amanda> I think I'm now at the point where I'm no-longer using the original password I used on the internet everywhere from the mid-late '00s
L552[18:48:03] <Izaya> you can get books with padlock support
L553[18:48:10] <Izaya> notebooks, that is
L554[18:48:11] <Amanda> Which was my router model, which I frequently bitched about on IRC. :D
L555[18:48:23] <Izaya> was it a WRT54GL
L556[18:48:27] <Amanda> -L
L557[18:48:34] <Izaya> checks out
L558[18:48:37] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: password manager is a standard featur…
L559[18:48:37] <ky​ngs> yeah but all of those passes in it are only encrypted using one pass right?
L560[18:49:01] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: Which was my router model, which I fr…
L561[18:49:02] <ky​ngs> Honestly, until I discovered this discord guild, I thought that IRC was dead
L562[18:49:07] <Izaya> the G non-L was the weaker one running some RTOS wasn't it?
L563[18:49:29] <Izaya> IRC will be around long after Discord folds :)
L564[18:49:32] <Va​ur> >kyngs: yeah but all of those passes in it a…
L565[18:49:32] <Va​ur> you dont have to, why ?
L566[18:49:36] <Amanda> Izaya: either that or some stupid-stripped down linux image
L567[18:49:57] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: you dont have to, why ?
L568[18:49:57] <ky​ngs> so how does the password manager store your password?
L569[18:49:59] <Amanda> I vaguely recall getting into it with telnet once
L570[18:50:01] <Izaya> Amanda: would you believe that until ... last year? this year? I was using a WRT54GL running OpenWRT?
L571[18:50:30] <Amanda> was openWRT even availabe for non-L?
L572[18:50:30] <Ariri> Amanda, it's interesting
L573[18:50:34] <Va​ur> that will have to depends on the password manager, I cant help you with that, its a case by case thing
L574[18:50:35] <Ariri> I've been liking it so far
L575[18:50:39] <Izaya> some early models
L576[18:50:55] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: that will have to depends on the pass…
L577[18:50:55] <Izaya> apparently the later non-L models ran an RTOS that needed less RAM and flash
L578[18:50:55] <ky​ngs> well ok
L579[18:50:57] <ky​ngs> anyway
L580[18:51:06] <ky​ngs> I am probably not going to move from one pass for all model
L581[18:51:21] <Izaya> now I'm using a BT Home Hub 5 running OpenWRT, because it's the only remotely affordable OpenWRT router with VDSL I could find
L582[18:51:29] <Izaya> it's very tempramental, as expected of british hardware
L583[18:51:34] <Va​ur> ok then
L584[18:51:45] <Va​ur> just so you know, password leaks still happen to this day
L585[18:51:56] <Va​ur> more often than you know
L586[18:52:02] <ky​ngs> ikik
L587[18:52:12] <ky​ngs> as far as haveibeenpwned site goes
L588[18:52:17] <ky​ngs> I've been in 7+ leaks
L589[18:52:29] <Amanda> .....
L590[18:52:34] <Va​ur> https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684
L591[18:52:37] <ky​ngs> >Izaya: was it a WRT54GL
L592[18:52:37] <ky​ngs> oh god, that one looks very old and very cheap
L593[18:52:39] <Amanda> haveibeenpwned checkes against the non-hashed password
L594[18:52:41] <ky​ngs> how old is it?
L595[18:52:51] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: haveibeenpwned checkes against the no…
L596[18:52:51] <ky​ngs> uhhh
L597[18:52:52] <ky​ngs> u sure?
L598[18:52:53] <Izaya> original model came out in .... 2000-ish?
L599[18:53:00] <ky​ngs> >Izaya: original model came out in .... 2000-…
L600[18:53:00] <ky​ngs> checks out
L601[18:53:05] <Amanda> so if anyone's scraped any of those 7+ leaks and added it to their dictionaries or similar
L602[18:53:14] <Izaya> I have like 8 of the bastards
L603[18:53:34] <Izaya> they were mildly cheap but the hardware was fine for the time and they really did nothing to stop you installing your own software on them
L604[18:53:36] <Va​ur> amanda is correct, haveibeenpwned show any leaked password
L605[18:53:40] <Mic​hiyo> I miss my WRT54Gs
L606[18:53:47] <Mic​hiyo> not the GS.
L607[18:53:49] <Amanda> haveibeenpwned doesn't store the leaked passwords unhashed, but stuff added to it is from leaks where the hash wasn't applied or very weak
L608[18:53:50] <Va​ur> as in password in plaintext
L609[18:53:51] <Mic​hiyo> Fuck those
L610[18:54:14] <Izaya> >auspost still says my package should arrive today
L611[18:54:22] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: haveibeenpwned doesn't store the leak…
L612[18:54:22] <ky​ngs> oh I see, well
L613[18:54:23] <Izaya> > it's nearly 6AM and it was last recorded in sydney
L614[18:54:25] <ky​ngs> that sucks
L615[18:54:29] <Izaya> > delivery only happens once a day at 10AM
L616[18:54:40] <ky​ngs> >Vaur: as in password in plaintext
L617[18:54:40] <ky​ngs> my school dining system be like
L618[18:54:51] <Amanda> so there's at least 7 instances of your username and plaintext password that hibp has heard of
L619[18:55:09] <ky​ngs> >Amanda: so there's at least 7 instances of yo…
L620[18:55:09] <ky​ngs> so on hibp there are only plaintext ones?
L621[18:55:30] <ky​ngs> So you tell me that for example, wattpad used plaintext?
L622[18:55:32] <ky​ngs> Seems sus
L623[18:55:43] <Amanda> I'd be unsurprised
L624[18:55:52] <ky​ngs> same
L625[18:55:55] <ky​ngs> Tho it is kinda sad
L626[18:56:06] <Izaya> if you want something done right do it yourself
L627[18:56:09] <Amanda> might not have been a database leak
L628[18:56:18] <ky​ngs> Tho I still have 2FA on important sites
L629[18:56:21] <ky​ngs> More like 1FA now
L630[18:56:38] <Amanda> could have been a logs leak and some engineer logged the pre-hashed password for whatever reason
L631[18:57:24] <ky​ngs> also hibpwnd has leaks from such sites like facebook
L632[18:57:36] <ky​ngs> And I doubt Facebook stored plaintext passes
L633[18:57:38] <Va​ur> > The incident exposed extensive personal information including names and usernames, email and IP addresses, genders, birth dates and passwords stored as bcrypt hashes.
L634[18:57:57] <ky​ngs> `passwords stored as bcrypt hashes.`
L635[18:57:57] <ky​ngs> This is fine
L636[18:58:16] <Mic​hiyo> Someone could have pasted their unhashed password on discord, which is relayed to IRC, which logs to a publicly accessible website, and someone scraped it from there too :P
L637[18:58:20] <Va​ur> its not fine, but what ever
L638[18:58:32] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: Someone could have pasted their unhas…
L639[18:58:33] <ky​ngs> :WAYTOODANK:
L640[18:58:34] <Forec​aster> my password is 123456
L641[18:58:57] <Hawk777> Excuse me I need to change my luggage combination now. BRB.
L642[18:59:08] <Mic​hiyo> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/view?chan=oc&log=2021-10-06.log#L486 :P
L643[18:59:30] <ky​ngs> >Michiyo: https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/view?cha…
L644[18:59:30] <ky​ngs> oh cmon, I only used that pass on twitch
L645[18:59:31] <ky​ngs> I swear
L646[19:00:06] <ky​ngs> It was even before they introduced the you need to have numbers, special chars etc. in your pass thingy
L647[19:00:54] <Forec​aster> %sip
L648[19:00:54] <MichiBot> You drink a light blue potion (New!). Forecaster gains the ability to talk to Birds until they have A Powdery potion.
L649[19:01:32] <Corded> * <Forec​aster> tells the birds kyngs's pockets are full of birdseed
L650[19:01:50] <ky​ngs> umm
L651[19:01:55] <ky​ngs> great I guess
L652[19:02:14] <Ariri> xd
L653[19:05:02] <dequbed> %pet Ariri
L654[19:05:02] <MichiBot> dequbed is petting Ariri with a Shiny this One Weird Truck for Isekai! (10%). Ariri regains 1d8 => 4 hit points!
L655[19:05:03] <Izaya> oh, that's why it's called starboard
L656[19:05:20] <Izaya> it's from "steer board" because the rudder on longships was on the right
L657[19:05:33] <Ariri> dequbed, wha'd i do
L658[19:05:37] <Inari> lets take this somewhat sense making thing and make it make no sense
L659[19:05:49] <Ariri> also, isekai, lets gooo
L660[19:05:58] <dequbed> Ariri: You're committing the crime of being cute in #oc :P
L661[19:06:14] <Ariri> w-what
L662[19:06:18] <Ariri> no u
L663[19:06:29] <Inari> %pet Ariri
L664[19:06:29] <MichiBot> Inari is petting Ariri with a Magic uber-metacarpal! (25%). Ariri regains 1d4 => 1 (Magic +2) => 3 hit points!
L665[19:06:45] <Ariri> >.>
L666[19:07:13] <Ariri> %pet dequbed
L667[19:07:14] <MichiBot> Ariri is petting dequbed with a Magic bowling 8ball! (25%). dequbed regains 1d4 => 3 (Magic +2) => 5 hit points!
L668[19:09:31] <Ariri> Inari, unrelated: A "nyanari" nickname came from somewhere in my head earlier for you
L669[19:09:48] <Ariri> ...i know realize that it sounds like a nickname for me too
L670[19:09:48] <Inari> heh
L671[19:09:54] <Ariri> Inyari then
L672[19:12:05] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> @Ariri https://tinyurl.com/y3qytju6
L673[19:13:23] <Ariri> Who is this and why does it sound like rubber slippers on a wet floor
L674[19:13:33] <Inari> Haha
L675[19:13:39] <Inari> No idea who really
L676[19:13:54] <Inari> is from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbN9AdOwuXI
L677[19:13:54] <MichiBot> "Gangsta's Paradise" (Sung By British Loli's) | length: 4m 27s | Likes: 113,364 Dislikes: 2,978 Views: 2,999,864 | by EileMonty | Published On 13/5/2019
L678[19:13:58] <Ariri> the music sounds familiar but i cant put my finger on it
L679[19:14:03] <Ariri> a
L680[19:14:13] <ThePi​Guy24> why specifically british lolis?
L681[19:14:32] <ThePi​Guy24> and why in general?
L682[19:14:38] <Ariri> good song
L683[19:14:39] <Inari> why not
L684[19:14:44] <Ariri> the original is at least
L685[19:14:52] <Inari> @ThePiGuy24 where else would you hear "innit bruv desu"
L686[19:14:55] <Ariri> TPG24: the accent i guess
L687[19:14:59] <Ariri> lul
L688[19:15:06] <Izaya> sailing in valheim is super comfy but I can't help but want to stick a more modern sail design on my ship >.>
L689[19:15:18] <ThePi​Guy24> Inari: i dont want to
L690[19:15:19] <Ariri> "innyit bruwv desyu~"
L691[19:15:38] <Ariri> the second voice isnt too bad actually
L692[19:15:44] <Ariri> could pass for a normal cover
L693[19:17:18] <Inari> I love this cover
L694[19:17:56] <Ariri> i added it to my playlist
L695[19:18:01] <Ariri> i almost said www again
L696[19:18:06] <Ariri> yabai
L697[19:18:43] <Inari> haha
L698[19:18:48] <Inari> uwwwu
L699[19:19:51] <Inari> Theres another song
L700[19:19:57] <Inari> I can't recall what the original song was called
L701[19:20:03] <Inari> (not a british loli song sadly :P_)
L702[19:20:25] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaUspNsn8po I've heard that before, but I can't figure out what it was xD
L703[19:20:25] <MichiBot> kyOresu - Lalala by bbno$ & y2k (loli cover) | length: 2m 42s | Likes: 356,176 Dislikes: 8,187 Views: 10,530,200 | by kyOresu | Published On 31/8/2019
L704[19:20:39] <Inari> guess ic an just google the lyrics...
L705[19:22:08] <Inari> Oh
L706[19:22:27] <Inari> Think I only really heard the refrain before though
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L710[20:00:04] <Amanda> %remindme 30m check on hydra
L711[20:00:05] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "check on hydra" in 30m at 10/06/2021 08:30:04 PM
L712[20:30:05] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: check on hydra
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L715[22:18:59] <Ocawes​ome101> >Michiyo: Someone could have pasted their unhashed pas…
L716[22:18:59] <Ocawes​ome101> hunter2
L717[22:19:29] <Mic​hiyo> `*` is all I see cause it's automatically hidden
L718[22:19:57] <Amanda> speaking of changing accidentally-pasted passwords, my various nixos machines no longer have the password I've accidentally typed into IRC several times as the password anymore
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L721[23:17:02] <s_​a_m> i once ended up typing a password into discord because it stole focus from the lock screen
L722[23:24:23] <Ocawes​ome101> i've never had that happen
L723[23:27:05] <Kristo​pher38> i had that happen because keepass has some dumb ass shortcuts
L724[23:27:55] <Kristo​pher38> for me anyway since the shortcut was also used to type a diacritic
L725[23:46:25] <Amanda> usually it's me not paying attention rto where my mouse ran off to when I was ssh'ing into something
L726[23:46:47] <Amanda> ( Focus follows mouse is both a blessing and a curse )
L727[23:47:13] <Mic​hiyo> Oh hey, you reset your avatar, neat
L728[23:48:00] <Amanda> haha yeah I did shortly after I did %oclogs -- was going to search the history for the url, then I decided it'd be faster to just find the share link from NC lolol
L729[23:48:01] <MichiBot> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/?dir=logs/%23oc
L730[23:48:57] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L731[23:55:21] <Amanda> %choose laptop naptime?
L732[23:55:21] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I talked to the Swedish Chef, he said "Bork bork!" I think that means yes?
L733[23:55:40] <Amanda> %choose rainbox first?
L734[23:55:40] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Why would you do that when you could do something else instead?
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