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L3[00:05:32] <Ocawes​ome101> aaaaaaaaa
L4[00:05:35] <Ocawes​ome101> agony
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L6[00:09:25] <Amanda> @Ocawesome101 just checking, you made sure to download the file in binary mode right?
L7[00:09:33] <Ocawes​ome101> hmm?
L8[00:09:48] <Ocawes​ome101> no file downloads happening
L9[00:09:48] <Amanda> I'm assuming you downloaded the disk image then flashed it
L10[00:09:56] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm not using a disk image i'm writing a driver
L11[00:10:04] <Amanda> ah
L12[00:11:19] <Ocawes​ome101> and i haven't the faintest clue why it isn't working
L13[00:11:53] <Amanda> %remindme 12h laundry day!
L14[00:11:54] <MichiBot> I'll tell you "laundry day!" in 12h at 10/04/2021 12:11:54 PM
L15[00:13:45] * Amanda replaces all of Elfi's wing shining agents with wing brightening agents
L16[00:13:59] <Ko​dos> It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a fuckin 1.16 TARDIS mod! https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/new-tardis-mod/files/3480761
L17[00:15:15] <Amanda> but can you turn off the parking break in the mod?
L18[00:15:30] <Amanda> brake*
L19[00:21:21] <Ko​dos> Dunno, but I'll find out after dinner. Dominos just got here
L20[00:25:22] <Ocawes​ome101> aaaaaaa
L21[00:25:27] <Ocawes​ome101> why
L22[00:25:31] <Ocawes​ome101> pain
L23[00:25:48] <Amanda> %choose hatching; transegg or lesbiegg
L24[00:25:48] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: transegg hatching
L25[00:36:31] <Mic​hiyo> I always get so confused when the reply comes in before the question
L26[00:36:32] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L27[00:40:56] <Ocawes​ome101> ...
L28[00:41:01] <Ocawes​ome101> i was comparing the wrong variable
L29[00:41:02] <Ocawes​ome101> wow
L30[00:42:23] <Ocawes​ome101> i don't know why it didn't break in either emulator but did in OC, but hey, i'm not complaining... that's a bug i wouldn't have otherwise noticed until much later
L31[00:45:15] <Ko​dos> Gotta love the elusive ones
L32[00:48:39] <Mic​hiyo> ugh FFS I don't understand WTF YOU WANT TO PULL GIT
L33[00:50:22] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Woo! Tardis Release! Now to work on my Adventure Pack based around exploring using a TARDIS.
L34[00:54:48] <Ocawes​ome101> well, now that the elephant in the room (file read/write) is out of the way i can focus on other things
L35[00:55:09] <Ocawes​ome101> such as link/unlink, and list
L36[00:56:24] <Ocawes​ome101> ...which, once they're done, should make it fully compatible with cynosure v2's filesystem node api
L37[00:56:36] <Ocawes​ome101> at least the current version, which doesn't include mknod
L38[00:57:38] <Ocawes​ome101> meaning i might actually be able to boot cynosure v2-based OSes from CFS :D
L39[00:57:47] <Ocawes​ome101> (which is the goal, of course)
L40[00:58:47] <s_​a_m> once i get an implementation of my FSes, i'll send you.docs and stuff
L41[00:58:50] <s_​a_m> :)
L42[00:59:34] <Ocawes​ome101> cfs docs are at https://github.com/ocawesome101/filesystems/tree/master/cfs
L43[00:59:41] <s_​a_m> two of them are just
L44[00:59:43] <Ocawes​ome101> it's basically poor man's ext2
L45[00:59:50] <s_​a_m> "metadata atop managed fs"
L46[00:59:54] <s_​a_m> foxfs is
L47[01:00:00] <s_​a_m> [screams of the damned]
L48[01:00:48] <s_​a_m> also gonna try to make an easy way to include kmscon in luppc
L49[01:00:49] <s_​a_m> :)
L50[01:01:00] <Ocawes​ome101> that'd be nice for proper font compatibility
L51[01:02:03] <Ocawes​ome101> also if i do implement managed filesystem support into cynosure v2 at all it will definitely require some metadata atop that
L52[01:02:11] <Ocawes​ome101> so i can have permissions
L53[01:02:17] <Ocawes​ome101> it
L54[01:03:04] <Ocawes​ome101> i'll probably store it in `.permissions_FILENAME` or smth
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L56[01:31:40] <Amanda> Izaya have a nightmare https://github.com/cdorst/DevOps.VersionControl.Functions.GetGitHubApiCredentials
L57[01:33:27] <Amanda> ( or was it Sofia who hated those kinds of names )
L58[02:01:05] * Amanda curls up around elfi, getting to sleepy to wait and see if she notices her funny prank
L59[02:01:09] <Amanda> Night nerds
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L62[02:33:52] <huyqu​oc0308> why is it dont work https://tinyurl.com/yzu5dj8l
L63[02:33:59] <huyqu​oc0308> why is it dont working https://tinyurl.com/yzu5dj8l [Edited]
L64[02:34:12] <huyqu​oc0308> why isnt it working https://tinyurl.com/yzu5dj8l [Edited]
L65[02:39:22] <Mic​hiyo> because `robot.forward()` isn't a file.
L66[02:39:30] <Mic​hiyo> you want to type `lua` first. to run the lua shell
L67[02:39:39] <Mic​hiyo> Then you can do that
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L69[02:45:05] <s_​a_m> i am back home
L70[02:45:06] <s_​a_m> comfy
L71[02:45:07] <s_​a_m> :)
L72[02:45:40] <s_​a_m> >Ocawesome101: i'll probably store it in `.permissio…
L73[02:45:40] <s_​a_m> my methods are more cursed
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L75[03:28:20] <Izaya> Amanda: would prefer camel case but title case is only mildly annoying
L76[03:34:13] <Izaya> https://fedi.absturztau.be/media/18cf775b0e9569b685418fb2e94906b00fa6db011afb2f3c85e2e40b556812bd.jpg
L77[03:34:14] <huyqu​oc0308> >Michiyo: you want to type `lua` first. to run the lu…
L78[03:34:14] <huyqu​oc0308> Oh thanks
L79[03:34:27] <huyqu​oc0308> I am new to this mod
L80[03:39:33] <Ocawes​ome101> @sam oh?
L81[03:40:31] <s_​a_m> tl;dr each file in the fs represents an inode and i store the inode data before the file data :)
L82[03:40:34] <s_​a_m> also
L83[03:40:36] <s_​a_m> I REPAIR
L84[03:40:36] <s_​a_m> ED
L85[03:40:42] <s_​a_m> A CD DRIVE
L86[03:41:10] <Ocawes​ome101> 1) cursed
L87[03:41:10] <Izaya> awww
L88[03:41:11] <Ocawes​ome101> 2) nice
L89[03:41:19] <Izaya> got a refund for the cursed Dell P2213T
L90[03:41:31] <Izaya> apparently shipping from perth costs as much as the item itself
L91[03:42:09] <Izaya> guess I don't get a 1680x1050 display with DisplayPort in
L92[03:42:11] <s_​a_m> hell yea
L93[03:42:22] <s_​a_m> my DVD drive was rest in piss
L94[03:42:28] <s_​a_m> *the one in the computer
L95[03:42:30] <s_​a_m> so i was just like
L96[03:42:36] <s_​a_m> "fuck it, i need a CD drive anyways"
L97[03:43:29] <s_​a_m> why the hell is the arch installer waiting for the disk drive
L98[03:43:38] <s_​a_m> i just mounted the root
L99[03:44:34] <Izaya> hmmmm
L100[03:44:46] <Izaya> maybe I should go for another SyncMaster then
L101[03:45:22] <Izaya> there's a B2240W for $70
L102[03:45:23] <s_​a_m> oh, btw, the thing wrong with the cd drive was the belt
L103[03:45:24] <s_​a_m> :)
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L106[04:29:13] <s_​a_m> man
L107[04:29:15] <s_​a_m> micro actually works
L108[04:29:18] <s_​a_m> :|
L109[04:29:23] <s_​a_m> isn't that crazy?
L110[04:29:28] <s_​a_m> coughdebiancough
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L114[05:20:44] <s_​a_m> anyways
L115[05:20:50] <s_​a_m> https://tinyurl.com/ygxlzohz
L116[05:20:53] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L117[05:20:53] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 7 hours, 38 minutes and 39 seconds (By 1 hour, 2 minutes and 46 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L118[05:20:54] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.008 tonk points! plus 0.014 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 3.2050901, Position #2 => #1 (Overtook Vaur)
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L120[06:25:34] <Ash​irg> %tonk
L121[06:25:55] <Ash​irg> Uh...
L122[06:25:58] <Ash​irg> Nothing?
L123[06:26:29] <Ash​irg> %sip
L124[06:26:33] <Ash​irg> Interesting
L125[06:26:51] <Ash​irg> ~~Forecaster broke the bot so I couldn't steal the tonk~~
L126[06:32:06] <MichiBot> Yikes! Ash​irg! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 11 minutes and 13 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L127[06:32:07] <MichiBot> Ashirg's new record is 1 hour, 11 minutes and 13 seconds! Ashirg also gained 0.00119 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #10. Need 0.01147 more points to pass bau​en1!
L128[06:33:02] <MichiBot> You drink a seeping tan potion (New!). Ashirg: Nothing seemed to happen...
L129[06:39:38] <Mic​hiyo> Nope, just the server being DDOSed right now.
L130[06:41:12] <s_​a_m> jesus
L131[06:41:33] <s_​a_m> also picom made the MGA G450 a n g e r y
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L137[07:35:25] <Forec​aster> %sip
L138[07:35:25] <MichiBot> You drink a liquid salmon potion (New!). A voice whispers a secret into Forecaster's ear only they can hear.
L139[07:37:35] <Izaya> Ariri: https://neckbeard.xyz/objects/ebd0eb8d-c262-427a-a392-37b209c775ca
L140[07:38:39] <Ariri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/xkz3oNMCwiCfRce/preview
L141[07:38:47] <Ariri> i like the detail in some of these
L142[07:39:01] <Ariri> you can tell they're an avid watcher
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L144[07:50:10] <Izaya> s_a_m: I don't remember if I sent you this https://ahhhhhh.social/media/e2068164-8688-4b07-af07-e97ba1703fcd/focksnami.png
L145[08:01:07] <Izaya> %roll 1d100
L146[08:01:07] <MichiBot> 75
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L150[08:08:13] <tech​wiz78> Turns out my code won't work regardless, because my actual computer is too weak for a microcontroller. Yay...
L151[08:10:36] <Ko​dos> Why is the server being DDOSed
L152[08:10:47] <tech​wiz78> Wat
L153[08:10:50] <Mic​hiyo> Because people get bored.
L154[08:25:13] <Forec​aster> Impossible!
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L158[08:54:02] <Ash​irg> >Michiyo: Nope, just the server being DDOSed rig…
L159[08:54:02] <Ash​irg> Who would do that
L160[08:54:34] <Ash​irg> %tonk
L161[08:54:34] <MichiBot> Awesome! Ash​irg! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 11 minutes and 13 seconds (By 1 hour, 11 minutes and 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L162[08:54:35] <MichiBot> Ashirg's new record is 2 hours, 22 minutes and 28 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00119 x 2 = 0.00238)
L163[08:54:42] <Mic​hiyo> People who enjoy drama, and being dicks.
L164[08:55:04] <Mic​hiyo> I run a wiki for a MMO server. And a competing server likes to be fucksticks.
L165[08:55:10] <Ash​irg> I mean, who would even get the idea of DDOSing this specific bot
L166[08:55:15] <Ash​irg> Ah
L167[08:55:33] <Mic​hiyo> yeah, no. No one is DDOSing the bot. the bot runs on a server. Said server runs a bunch of other stuff
L168[08:55:56] <Ash​irg> ~~Imagine not having a dedicated server for everything~~
L169[08:56:08] <Ash​irg> ~~Has never had a dedicated server~~
L170[08:56:53] <Mic​hiyo> Right now I have websites, and bots running on a $20 OVH VPS
L171[08:57:03] <Mic​hiyo> 2 cores and 8GB RAM
L172[08:58:45] <Ash​irg> What about the bandwidth?
L173[08:59:19] <Mic​hiyo> It exists, yes.
L174[08:59:29] <Mic​hiyo> lol
L175[09:09:16] <Ash​irg> Good
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L178[09:13:00] <Ash​irg> %sip
L179[09:13:00] <MichiBot> You drink a freezing moonstone potion (New!). Ashirg feels the need to use "%fling".
L180[09:13:06] <Ash​irg> %fling
L181[09:13:06] <MichiBot> Ash​irg: Invalid arguments. %fling Target:string [Item:string]
L182[09:13:11] <Ash​irg> Ack
L183[09:13:21] <Ash​irg> %fling Forecaster
L184[09:13:22] <MichiBot> Ashirg flings Foreca​ster's favorite pair of socks in a random direction. It hits the ground near Forec​aster
L185[09:13:23] * MichiBot Forecaster's favorite pair of socks looked into the void and was consumed.
L186[09:13:33] <Ash​irg> lmao
L187[09:13:58] <Mic​hiyo> Perfect.
L188[09:33:12] <Ash​irg> %sip
L189[09:33:12] <MichiBot> You drink a molten red potion (New!). Ashirg's toes turn invisible until they use "Actually Swing" in a sentence.
L190[09:33:24] <Ash​irg> Interesting
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L193[10:21:20] <Forec​aster> Oh hey, Amanda's request showed up fast
L194[10:23:21] <Forec​aster> Also, my socks! D:
L195[10:40:29] <Ash​irg> I'm sorryyyyyyyy
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L198[11:21:21] <Ko​dos> What's the competing website? I have a fun idea
L199[11:28:18] <Lizzy​-chan> @Michiyo I don't mind lending server resources if needed
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L202[11:39:59] <Amanda> Izaya I was referring more to the stupid-long name
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L205[12:11:55] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: laundry day!
L206[12:23:44] <Z0id​berg> Lololol
L207[12:24:27] <Z0id​berg> on my Windows 10 partition it takes like 2 minutes to generate a short history world. On my Linux partition it takes half a second. (Dwarf Fortress)
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L210[13:04:17] <Va​ur> %tonk
L211[13:04:17] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! Va​ur! You beat Ash​irg's previous record of 2 hours, 22 minutes and 28 seconds (By 1 hour, 47 minutes and 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L212[13:04:18] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 4 hours, 9 minutes and 42 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00537 (0.00179 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.01205746 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L214[13:30:19] <Ash​irg> >Z0idberg: on my Windows 10 partition it takes li…
L215[13:30:20] <Ash​irg> Linux stronk
L216[13:31:56] <Amanda> Which partition is closer to the center, assuming spinning rust
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L221[14:51:01] <Mic​hiyo> >Kodos: What's the competing website? I have a …
L222[14:51:01] <Mic​hiyo> Just a bunch of 4chaners
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L234[17:44:12] <Ko​dos> Apparently my brothers oculus isn’t working because Facebook is having an outage
L235[17:47:32] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah, not just FB, a lot of stuff is down/slow right now
L236[18:14:45] <ThePi​Guy24> very "oops" moment https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1445072650720591875?s=21
L237[18:27:25] <Ar​iri> let’s gooo
L238[18:29:00] <Ar​iri> brb about to make a 10k deposit
L239[18:30:03] <Ar​iri> “it’s always DNS”
L240[18:37:56] <Mic​hiyo> Unless it's not, but then it usually is anyway
L241[19:01:46] <Ocawes​ome101> so that's why they're inaccessible
L242[19:05:27] <M​GR> Good
L243[19:14:44] <Izaya> https://social.handholding.io/media/950948114e4afd3b45bcc5af51b082986f7a228ff6faadfe1e4a3c29f439ed9e.png
L244[19:14:55] <Ocawes​ome101> hahahahahahaha
L245[19:16:23] <Sagh​etti> gj facebook
L246[19:17:18] <s_​a_m> incredible
L247[19:17:21] <s_​a_m> internet of shit
L248[19:18:02] <Mic​hiyo> Who would ever assume that an outage could effect the internet?!
L249[19:18:05] <simon816> "move fast and break things"
L250[19:18:21] <Izaya> fucking hell
L251[19:18:21] <s_​a_m> oh lord
L252[19:18:29] <Izaya> the universe just doesn't want me to have three monitors
L253[19:18:32] <s_​a_m> i can only imagine how long xf86-video-mga is gonna take to compile
L254[19:18:45] <Izaya> attempt #3 cancelled because the seller had listed more than they actually had
L255[19:19:23] <s_​a_m> of course
L256[19:22:21] <Izaya> friendly reminder that fedi will never be taken down by inaccessible security badges or misconfigured DNS
L257[19:22:53] <Ocawes​ome101> fedi?
L258[19:23:44] <simon816> need to get my pleroma instance running again
L259[19:24:08] <s_​a_m> https://tinyurl.com/yfm27jwh
L260[19:24:36] <Izaya> the fediverse - the collective name for all the activitypub-and-related-compatible server software instances on the public internet
L261[19:24:46] <Ocawes​ome101> ah
L262[19:25:33] <Izaya> I'm @izaya@social.shadowkat.net but probably don't follow me I mostly post technical opinions that make people angery
L263[19:36:42] <Ash​irg> Such as?
L264[19:36:47] <Ocawes​ome101> izaya: how do i register an account even
L265[19:37:05] <Izaya> you pick an instance and then register
L266[19:38:07] <Izaya> afraid I'm not up to date on what instances are nice with open registration, been running my own for several years now
L267[19:38:51] <Ocawes​ome101> fair enough
L268[19:45:41] <Izaya> I started on mastodon.technology and it was alright
L269[19:45:48] <Izaya> no idea how it's going nowadays though
L270[19:48:20] <Izaya> okey bed time
L271[19:48:54] <CompanionCube> Izaya: lol there's rumors that the facebook bgp outage broke their doors too
L272[19:49:00] <CompanionCube> oof
L273[19:51:13] <Izaya> it's a very webshit failure mode
L274[19:52:27] <Ariri> has anybody heard of/used threema
L275[19:54:46] <simon816> may have heard it in some random /r/privacy discussion
L276[19:55:38] <simon816> I think Signal is more popular though
L277[19:56:28] <Ariri> yeah
L278[19:56:37] <Ariri> it seems alright but more niche than signal
L279[20:03:24] <Ash​irg> >Ariri: has anybody heard of/used threema
L280[20:03:24] <Ash​irg> I'm using threema for private and business, works fine
L281[20:03:52] <Ash​irg> Except for it sometimes failing to receive messages in background when I have the data saving mode active
L282[20:04:05] <Ash​irg> Maybe I just have to add it as an exception though
L283[20:04:37] <Ariri> if you arent logged in on a client/arent networked, are messages cached somewhere to be stored later?
L284[20:04:43] <Ariri> or does delivering just fail from the sender side
L285[20:05:38] <Ash​irg> I don't think you can write messages if not logged in, but it should handle not being connected properly
L286[20:05:54] <Ash​irg> Pretty sure it always dod
L287[20:06:00] <Ash​irg> Pretty sure it always did [Edited]
L288[20:07:20] <Ariri> hmm ok
L289[20:07:20] <Ariri> thx
L290[20:11:30] ⇨ Joins: Inari (~Pinkishu@p4fe7eea7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
L291[20:11:39] <Inari> So I heard Facebook screwed itself over
L292[20:12:18] * Amanda drops all of Inari's DNS records
L293[20:12:24] <Inari> D:
L294[20:12:24] <Inari> rude
L295[20:13:53] <Hawk777> Ew, now there are IP addresses all over the floor.
L296[20:15:18] <dequbed> ~Popcorn time~ :D
L297[20:15:45] <Amanda> from my co-admin: `Apparently their BGP routes got withdrawn. They can't fix it because there aren't routes to get in. They can't get into the datacenter because it is synced with their corporate LDAP which... doens't have routes!`
L298[20:16:03] <Inari> good tech company btw
L299[20:16:52] <Inari> Also fairly sure I've just read that post on twitter
L300[20:17:16] <dequbed> Amanda: yeah pretty much. The got themselves blackholed from the interwebs. They're less "down" and more "gone".
L301[20:17:17] <Amanda> might be where he got it from, I've been lost in a story all day
L302[20:17:54] <Inari> I do'nt really get why stock drops from this though
L303[20:18:12] <Sagh​etti> might be the whistleblower stuff
L304[20:18:25] <Inari> Like, clearly they're sooner or later just going to put it back up, and barely anyone is going to stop using facebook over it
L305[20:19:01] <Inari> Also according to twitter " "they have a backup IRC chat server to use in case Messenger is down, but the backup IRC is also hosted on http://facebook.com so it's also down"
L306[20:19:17] <Amanda> ^ a whistleblower recently came out that facebook cared way more about profits than safety. Shortly after they blackhole themselves from the internet, seemingly exposing a single point of failure none of the engineers cared/thought of, or were dismissed from solving
L307[20:20:05] <Inari> Amanda: Ah, it wasn't the exact same quote, just the general same kinda sentence :p
L308[20:20:46] <dequbed> Ariri: I use Threema for family matters. Much more trustworthy to me than the CIA-sponsored, Twitter-funded money burner by the literal anti-democratic authoritarian, and significantly less tech hassle than XMPP/Matrix
L309[20:22:38] <Inari> I like Matrix/Element, though it's not very user friendly and lacks some basic features like presence
L310[20:23:00] <Amanda> It has presense though?
L311[20:23:15] <Inari> Not for me
L312[20:23:22] <Amanda> you can't set it manually, but it's there
L313[20:23:23] <dequbed> It also requires significantly more setup than centralized messenger and fails the one basic rule of please stop using passwords already ffs.
L314[20:23:32] <Inari> Amanda: I haven't been able to find any online indicators
L315[20:23:44] <Amanda> Inari: the circle by the pfp
L316[20:24:01] <Amanda> it's grey when offline, green when online
L317[20:24:03] <Ariri> >cares about profit more than safety | Amanda, see also: FB knowing IG causes teen self-harm and not doing anything
L318[20:24:10] <Inari> I don't have nay circles by the pfp
L319[20:24:33] <Ariri> dequbed, I see
L320[20:24:34] <Ariri> danke
L321[20:25:07] <Amanda> Inari: on desktop or mobile?
L322[20:25:17] <Amanda> I don't see any on mobile, but I do on desktop
L323[20:25:58] <dequbed> Ariri: Also, Threema is literally the only secure (and they are secure, I trust the people that did the audits) not self-hosted messenger out there that has a sensible and future-proof enough financing scheme.
L324[20:26:02] <Inari> Both? Though mobile has a green "shield" symbol, but I think that's just about the verified session
L325[20:26:12] <Ocawes​ome101> that is an impressive oversight on facebook's part
L326[20:26:36] <Ariri> dequbed, have any reads for me on hand, by chance? no worries if not
L327[20:26:48] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/ZKwTqyBypqihQpiDfEGvwROJ/screenshot-1633379190.png
L328[20:27:04] <Inari> I mean
L329[20:27:06] <dequbed> Ariri: Well, Threema and Wire I guess. Wire has become much better too, if you want options. Reads for what?
L330[20:27:08] <Inari> not sure what magic you'r eusing
L331[20:27:10] <Inari> I don' thave that xD
L332[20:27:22] <Amanda> MAybe the homeserver you're on is out of date
L333[20:27:33] <Ariri> dequbed, reads on their financing scheme
L334[20:27:35] <Amanda> or the person has it disabled, which I think is an option
L335[20:27:38] <dequbed> @Ocawesome101 is it though?
L336[20:27:39] <Ariri> unless just costing money upfront is said scheme
L337[20:27:49] <Inari> is matrix.org I think?
L338[20:27:55] <Ocawes​ome101> dequbed: would that be a sad oversight?
L339[20:28:01] <Inari> Also I hate whoever named this thing Element
L340[20:28:05] <Inari> literally unsearchable
L341[20:28:14] <Amanda> Used to be called Riot
L342[20:28:15] <Amanda> :P
L343[20:28:17] <dequbed> Ariri: Nope I don't but the cost of their apps makes about sense for the general running cost of servers on that scale. Comparing to e.g. Signal that is.
L344[20:28:37] <Ariri> naruhodo
L345[20:29:16] <dequbed> In other words: The "reads" are me doing some back-of-the-envelope calculations telling me that running an free-for-everybody messaging service isn't a good business model.
L346[20:30:14] <Inari> Does threema have an actual desktop client or just a website? (and yes, Electron works as desktop client)
L347[20:30:15] <Ariri> Yeah, I figured that :p
L348[20:30:18] <dequbed> @Ocawesome101 neither really. "Blackholing yourself from the internet" is not a situation most companies are really preparing for.
L349[20:30:27] <Ocawes​ome101> fair enough
L350[20:31:09] <Amanda> I've heard that google does all kinds of basically devops roleplay on what they would do for variuous outages
L351[20:31:16] <Ariri> I hope FB takes a while to get back up
L352[20:31:25] <s_​a_m> wew
L353[20:31:28] <Amanda> I wonder if "We accidentally blackholed ourselves" ever came up
L354[20:31:31] <s_​a_m> it reminded me to renew my domain
L355[20:31:37] <Inari> Amanda: if it didn't, it will now
L356[20:31:38] <Ariri> so avid users can find other, less invasive, ways to waste time
L357[20:31:39] <dequbed> Inari: Pretty sure only Web
L358[20:31:51] <dequbed> Amanda: Yes, definitely
L359[20:31:54] <Inari> Ah, sad
L360[20:32:00] <Inari> Does it have custom sticker packs though
L361[20:32:27] <dequbed> It doesn't have stickers at all
L362[20:32:40] <Inari> :<
L363[20:33:05] <Inari> Whats with messengers having less features than ones from 15 years ago
L364[20:33:25] <s_​a_m> this seems like a great time to buy facebook stocks
L365[20:33:33] <dequbed> What messenger had sticker 15 years ago?
L366[20:33:54] <Ash​irg> You use stickers?
L367[20:33:55] <Amanda> 15 years ago we were still fighting MSN from thinking :o was a kissy-face
L368[20:33:58] <Inari> Well just in general :P Like afaik MSN had minigames and shared drawing
L369[20:34:27] <Inari> @Ashirg ofc, mainly with my bf
L370[20:34:30] <dequbed> Inari: Well I mean none of the modern ones have either of that. Probably because specialization is more important
L371[20:34:50] <dequbed> @Ashirg same, all the time. Stickers are cool
L372[20:35:05] <Ash​irg> I see...
L373[20:35:10] <Inari> I even threw together a electron program so I could make a stickerpack and export it to qTox (which I use) and Pidgin (which he uses)
L374[20:35:11] <Ash​irg> Well, you do you
L375[20:36:11] <Amanda> I don't really use stickers myself. but I do search for gifs with gboard somtimes
L376[20:36:37] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/yUHtWlRjUZpopTZmpeUfQUjI/tenor_gif2728236247941941717.gif
L377[20:36:46] <Inari> I wanna see a disaster movie in 1-2 years in which the catastrophe is facebook being down
L378[20:37:04] <Inari> including a "Its a UNIX system! I know this!" line
L379[20:38:11] <Inari> also trying to decode obfuscated JS is a pain
L380[20:38:51] <Amanda> almost llike it's intentional, Inari. :P
L381[20:39:13] <dequbed> Aren't there deobfuscators for JS?
L382[20:39:25] <Amanda> they basically amount to pretty-printing the JS
L383[20:39:28] <Amanda> last I looked
L384[20:39:52] <Amanda> doesn't help keep track what function b taking (d,s,q) does
L385[20:40:18] <s_​a_m> https://twitter.com/jckarter/status/1445089949024325634?s=20
L386[20:40:27] <Mic​hiyo> lmao!
L387[20:41:26] <Amanda> I saw one of those haunting a local outlet store last night
L388[20:41:38] <Amanda> I also learned my lysdexia should have been more obvious growin gup
L389[20:41:55] <dequbed> The more "fun" part of this whole ordeal is that we found out that our DNS infrastructure has a giant potential issue left unsolved that FB going down unconvered.
L390[20:42:24] <dequbed> And not because FB is hosting DNS or any of that, actually specifically because they *aren't* hosting DNS>
L391[20:42:32] <Amanda> 1) I was never formally diagnosed with dyslexia while in school, and probably never had it taken into consderation as a result, and 2) It probably should have been given I used to call disney dinsey
L392[20:42:36] <Ariri> TIL Facebook's address is 1 Hacker Way...
L393[20:42:53] <Inari> %pet Ariri
L394[20:42:54] <MichiBot> Inari is petting Ariri with sahrasrafa's robe. Ariri regains 1d4 => 3 hit points! Sahrasrafa's robe fell into a vat of radioactive goo.
L395[20:43:15] <Ariri> %bap Inari
L396[20:43:17] <MichiBot> Ariri baps Inari with michael gove!
L397[20:43:27] <Inari> D:
L398[20:43:42] <dequbed> Ariri be nice honey
L399[20:43:43] <Amanda> %splash Inari with mutable orange potion
L400[20:43:45] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable orange potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns into a jumbonium platypus boy for 2 moons.
L401[20:43:54] <Ariri> dequbed, what>
L402[20:44:00] <Inari> "honey" 👀
L403[20:44:02] <Ariri> they dont accept pats
L404[20:44:10] <Ariri> thats as close as i can get
L405[20:44:35] <dequbed> Inari: stop that
L406[20:44:41] <Inari> stop what
L407[20:44:43] <dequbed> Ariri: Still bapping people isn't nice
L408[20:44:51] <Ariri> being a platypus boy presumable
L409[20:44:54] <Ariri> y
L410[20:45:06] <Ariri> dequbed, what about bonking
L411[20:45:10] <Ariri> or maiming
L412[20:45:18] <dequbed> Even less nice
L413[20:45:20] <Inari> bonking is pretty lewwd
L414[20:45:21] <dequbed> Unless they're asking for it
L415[20:45:29] <Ariri> Inari, no its anti-lewd
L416[20:45:33] * Ariri bonks Inari
L417[20:45:48] <Amanda> %bonk Inari
L418[20:45:49] <MichiBot> Amanda bonks Inari on the head with the stone ingot for 1d​4 => 2 damage!
L419[20:45:50] <Inari> Depends on which defnition you use
L420[20:45:54] <Ariri> dequbed, finee
L421[20:45:54] <dequbed> %pet Ariri
L422[20:45:54] <MichiBot> dequbed is brushing Ariri with 25-man orgy. Ariri regains 1d4 => 1 hit points!
L423[20:46:02] <Ariri> uh
L424[20:46:03] <dequbed> ...
L425[20:46:06] <Ariri> who
L426[20:46:07] <dequbed> *concern*
L427[20:46:08] <Ariri> why
L428[20:46:09] <Inari> xD
L429[20:46:13] <Ariri> where
L430[20:46:19] * Amanda whistles innocently as another fox is taken in for inexplicable blunt force trauma
L431[20:46:19] <Inari> %inventory list
L432[20:46:20] <MichiBot> In​ari: Here's my inventory: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/inventory
L433[20:46:22] <dequbed> %bonk MichiBot
L434[20:46:22] * MichiBot bonks dequbed on the head preemptively!
L435[20:46:41] <Ariri> Inari, ecchi.
L436[20:46:45] <dequbed> Ariri: my house bring cake :P
L437[20:47:17] <Ariri> Okay :3
L438[20:47:17] <Inari> But yeah Ariri is right, I only accpet pets from my bf :p
L439[20:47:27] <Ariri> I actually made some banana bread the other week
L440[20:47:33] <Amanda> which is why you should always bite the paw that feeds you, as the foxes say!
L441[20:48:06] <Ariri> Inari, patting bf applications when
L442[20:48:40] <Inari> Ariri: no vacancies
L443[20:48:42] <dequbed> %pet Amanda
L444[20:48:43] <MichiBot> dequbed is brushing Amanda with persister.jar. Amanda regains 1d4 => 2 hit points!
L445[20:49:03] <Ariri> Inari, so then who pats the bf
L446[20:49:46] <Amanda> %choose continue staring at empty code window or halucinate more
L447[20:49:46] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Elementary dear Watson, "halucinate more" is the obvious choice!
L448[20:50:01] <Amanda> sounds good
L449[21:00:32] <Ocawes​ome101> %pet inari purely as an annoyance
L450[21:00:32] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101 is brushing inari with purely as an annoyance. inari regains 1d4 => 3 hit points!
L451[21:04:00] <dequbed> Ariri: Unrelated but https://twitter.com/ThreemaApp/status/1445066470455717891
L452[21:04:02] <MichiBot> Mon Oct 04 16:41:09 UTC 2021 @ThreemaApp: Actually, quite a lot of people have issues with WhatsApp, especially in terms of privacy. <https://t.co/v8WQO6YJct&gt;
L453[21:04:51] <Ariri> www
L454[21:04:55] <Ariri> lol*
L455[21:05:07] <Inari> Ariri shortly engaged Japanese mode
L456[21:05:23] <Ariri> recent habit >.>
L457[21:14:13] <Inari> :D
L458[21:14:45] <dequbed> Ariri: As long as I don't have to learn japanese to talk to you :P
L459[21:15:06] <Ariri> dequbed, what if I learn german too
L460[21:15:33] <dequbed> Then we have two common languages :P
L461[21:15:42] <Ariri> ;3
L462[21:34:33] <Ash​irg> >MichiBot: Ocawesome101 is brushing inari with pu…
L463[21:34:33] <Ash​irg> Lmao
L464[21:34:37] <Ash​irg> %tonk
L465[21:34:38] <MichiBot> Yay! Ash​irg! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 4 hours, 9 minutes and 42 seconds (By 4 hours, 20 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L466[21:34:39] <MichiBot> Ashirg's new record is 8 hours, 30 minutes and 19 seconds! Ashirg also gained 0.0217 (0.00434 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #10 => #9. (Overtook bauen1) Need 0.0463528 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
L467[21:48:14] ⇦ Quits: Inari (~Pinkishu@p4fe7eea7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)
L468[21:57:28] <Forec​aster> %sip
L469[21:57:28] <MichiBot> You drink a gloomy platinum potion (New!). Forecaster looks up and sees the moon smile at them for a second.
L470[21:57:44] <Forec​aster> Dammit moon, stop doing that
L471[22:11:32] <Ash​irg> Yeah, seriously
L472[22:11:35] <Ash​irg> %sio
L473[22:11:40] <Ash​irg> %sip
L474[22:11:40] <MichiBot> You drink a mutable pear potion (New!). Ashirg turns into a toad boy until they say the word "Blatherskite".
L475[22:11:54] <Ash​irg> Blatherskite
L476[22:13:51] <Forec​aster> Apparently Facebook is back
L477[22:14:42] <Ash​irg> Interesting
L478[22:23:51] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@port-92-192-221-38.dynamic.as20676.net) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L479[22:29:21] <Kristo​pher38> https://blog.cloudflare.com/october-2021-facebook-outage/
L480[22:30:19] <Mic​hiyo> yay my new keyboard shipped
L481[22:40:10] <Amanda> shame, guess they found a locksmith for the datacentres
L482[22:50:17] <s_​a_m> kennymore washer machine
L483[22:50:17] <s_​a_m> vs
L484[22:50:21] <s_​a_m> micheal wave
L485[23:25:08] ⇨ Joins: sylar32141 (~sylar3214@184-091-235-205.res.spectrum.com)
L486[23:25:34] ⇦ Quits: sylar32141 (~sylar3214@184-091-235-205.res.spectrum.com) (Client Quit)
L487[23:27:20] <Amanda> %choose laptop nap time?
L488[23:27:20] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Once the moon cycle restarts you should definitely do it!
L489[23:27:28] <Amanda> ... laptop nap time
L490[23:27:42] * Amanda flops down around elfi, reads to her about lesbian goddess-mortals
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