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L4[01:00:53] <CompanionCube> one time my compositor used software rendering
L5[01:00:58] <CompanionCube> i didn't notice at first
L6[01:01:14] <CompanionCube> then for other reasons i looked at htop and saw the compositor using 400% CPU...
L7[01:02:02] <CompanionCube> Izaya: ah, but *which* mesa driver?
L8[01:02:17] <CompanionCube> could be llvmpipe or swrast :p
L9[01:02:28] <Amanda> You can tell when it's using software rendering when using GNOME"
L10[01:03:06] <Amanda> Because the GNOME devs, in their infinite wisdom, don't bother testing with the swrast at all, and just continue along with their over-the-top animations and crossfades
L11[01:19:00] <Ko​dos> %choose movie; ignore or not
L12[01:19:00] <MichiBot> Ko​dos: ignore movie
L13[01:19:03] <Ko​dos> 😄
L14[01:26:04] <Izaya> CompanionCube: no compositor
L15[01:26:15] <Izaya> I reverted to 5.13 and it's working fine again
L16[01:26:17] <CompanionCube> and the mesa driver?
L17[01:26:25] <Izaya> it said amdgpu
L18[01:27:28] <CompanionCube> amdgpu isn't a mesa driver :p
L19[01:27:43] * Izaya shrugs
L20[02:43:18] <Izaya> today's new cursed storage system thinger: automagical un-chiseling
L21[02:44:33] <Izaya> gonna have a bunch of auto chisels set up to revert to the original thing, and a daemon that checks for chisel items that can be converted back to the original
L22[02:44:41] <Izaya> so I don't end up with 8000 variants of cobblestone in my storage system
L23[03:01:15] <Ko​dos> Not to play devil's advocate, but why not pick your favorite chisel and have it convert to that for each block
L24[03:05:44] <Izaya> also a possibility
L25[03:06:04] <Izaya> though given it's under software control, I could even have it maintain a level of a given block
L26[03:12:38] * Amanda meows at elfi, telling her all about this new pillow she found, curls up on it and zzzmews
L27[03:12:51] <Amanda> Night nerds
L28[03:43:32] <Ko​dos> https://puu.sh/IdzAx/618eb5628a.jpg This is not what I had in mind when I asked for ice cubes at the Space Bar™️
L29[05:05:41] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm writing a shell
L30[05:05:42] <Ocawes​ome101> in C
L31[05:05:45] <Ocawes​ome101> because why not
L32[05:09:18] <Ocawes​ome101> after going crazy for an hour and a half or so: https://tinyurl.com/yj9l8khk
L33[05:31:01] <Ocawes​ome101> izaya: http://0x0.st/-YKT.c
L34[05:36:02] <Izaya> neat
L35[06:24:11] <Ash​irg> %sip
L36[06:24:11] <MichiBot> You drink a porous honey potion (New!). Ashirg gains the proportional strength of a platypus until Sozin's Comet returns.
L37[06:35:34] <Izaya> ayy
L38[06:35:39] <Izaya> 1030 RF/t with just water wheels
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L42[08:05:50] <Ash​irg> %tonk
L43[08:05:51] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Ash​irg! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 7 hours, 54 minutes and 43 seconds (By 11 minutes and 42 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L44[08:05:52] <MichiBot> Ashirg's new record is 8 hours, 6 minutes and 26 seconds! Ashirg also gained 0.0016 (0.0002 x 8) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #11. Need 0.01398 more points to pass Squi​dDev!
L45[08:44:59] <Ash​irg> %sip
L46[08:44:59] <MichiBot> You drink a shimmering naqahdah potion (New!). Ashirg is suddenly wearing a tiny glove on each finger.
L47[08:45:14] <Ash​irg> Cute lil' gloves
L48[10:17:02] <dequbed> Izaya: iproute2 already uses a word based command parser and it's almost usable :P
L49[10:17:38] <Izaya> I don't hate iproute2
L50[10:17:48] <dequbed> It's better than all alternatives
L51[10:18:15] <dequbed> The biggest issue is that it resolves even ambigious terms instead of stating the ambiguity.
L52[10:18:34] <dequbed> i.e. `ip r` -> `ip route`, but it could also be `ip rule`.
L53[10:18:51] <dequbed> I'd prefer and error for `ip r` and require `ip ro` or `ip ru`, depending.
L54[10:19:57] <Izaya> yeah
L55[10:20:08] <Izaya> the IOS command parser will complain if it's ambiguous
L56[10:20:51] <Izaya> picking one that matches even if it's ambiguous is ... less than ideal
L57[10:21:06] <dequbed> But re IOS specifically, Quagga / GNU Zebra try to emulate it and I find it much less usable than birdc
L58[10:21:46] <Izaya> I'm told the Huawei switches run an IOS clone and it's nicer also
L59[10:22:07] <Izaya> the inconsistent terminology and such has been fixed
L60[10:22:15] <dequbed> I can almost understand it, ip route is used significantly more often than ip rule, but it has bitten me because I then just shorted everything for faster typing and got lots of errors suddenly
L61[10:23:34] <dequbed> But like ... `ip t` could be tap, tcpmetrics, token, tunnel or tuntap and the default is somewhat arbitrarily tunnel
L62[10:25:03] <dequbed> And for the same readon `ip tun` doesn't let you make tun devices like `ip tap` does because it thinks that 'tunnel'. You need `ip tuntap` :P
L63[10:32:48] <Sagh​etti> hi guys
L64[10:32:56] <Ash​irg> Hello
L65[10:33:14] <Sagh​etti> i make my once in a blue moon appearance once more
L66[10:33:24] <Izaya> how goes friendo
L67[10:33:31] <Sagh​etti> stress
L68[10:33:39] <Sagh​etti> i have too much work to do
L69[10:33:48] <Sagh​etti> missing deadlines for school and projects outside
L70[10:34:05] <Sagh​etti> im getting fired from pgg if i dont get this load balancer shit done by the end of the day
L71[10:34:23] <Sagh​etti> i've been downing caffeine to stay awake and grind through it all, and i'm still falling behind
L72[10:34:29] <Sagh​etti> so yeah overall a 6/10
L73[10:42:01] <Izaya> that does sound stressful
L74[10:43:51] <dequbed> Fired from a job because you can't build a thing by a date? Firing you is definitely going to make that thing be built much faster, I'm *sure*.
L75[10:44:10] <dequbed> Have you considered telling that company to fuck right off and find a bigger idiot to be treated like that?
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L78[10:47:20] <Ash​irg> Deq has a point... But doing that will likely not improve the situation either
L79[10:47:52] <Ash​irg> Such people are usually to self-righteous and confident so that they wouldn't be able to admit it
L80[10:48:08] <Ash​irg> And then they would just fire Saghetti anyway
L81[10:48:19] <dequbed> "Everybody is replaceable" is only ever said by the people that very much profit from you thinking of yourself as replaceable.
L82[10:48:45] <Ash​irg> Basically
L83[10:48:49] <dequbed> I've told people before that if they ever dare to say that again I will quit on the spot and they realized after doing the math that they'd much rather not afford that.
L84[10:49:11] <Ash​irg> Did it work every time?
L85[10:50:59] <dequbed> I did that exactly twice. Most companies spend 50k-100k just to *find* a new hire. If it's a specialist that number goes up very fast. They know that they can't afford burning people for very long.
L86[10:51:23] <dequbed> 50k-100k€ that is, none of your monopoly money.
L87[10:54:49] <dequbed> @Saghetti unrelated but is this $today deadline for the load balancer set by you or imposed by somebody else?
L88[10:56:31] <Sagh​etti> not mine
L89[10:56:51] <Sagh​etti> but the thing is, it's a bigger issue than just this
L90[10:57:01] <Sagh​etti> i've been missing more deadlines before because of schoolwork
L91[10:57:15] <Sagh​etti> so i either work on schoolwork or pgg, and miss deadlines on either one
L92[10:57:28] <dequbed> Hm, have you communicated that properly reasonably fast?
L93[10:57:37] <Izaya> sounds like you need to reduce your workload
L94[10:57:44] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L95[10:57:45] <dequbed> As in did you tell whomever set the deadline that you won't manage that one because $school?
L96[10:58:08] <dequbed> Most importantly, did you do that for *this* deadline?
L97[10:58:08] <Sagh​etti> their end statement was basically "if you can't handle the work, just leave"
L98[10:58:16] <dequbed> Leave.
L99[10:58:24] <dequbed> This company is not worth the burnout.
L100[10:58:34] <dequbed> This company will *not* give you a work reference that's usable.
L101[10:58:47] <Izaya> burnout sucks, avoid at all costs
L102[10:58:50] <dequbed> They'll write lengths about how many deadlines you missed if they care that little.
L103[10:58:53] <Sagh​etti> the thing is though, this isn't like a proper company
L104[10:59:03] <dequbed> Then tell them to get fucked.
L105[10:59:07] <Sagh​etti> this is literally a bunch of my friends
L106[10:59:19] <dequbed> With friends like these you don't need enemies.
L107[11:07:29] <dequbed> @Saghetti still, do yourself the favour and don't work yourself into a burnout. Nothing this group of friends is doing could be so important that this loadbalancer is worth your mental health.
L108[11:08:35] <dequbed> You're not (re-)building your counties emergency response infrastructure.
L109[11:09:38] <dequbed> And if you are, and it is going that badly: Do get out of the firing line. Projects managed as badly as that are sure to fail and you don't want to be the one being thrown under the bus.
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L111[11:41:53] <Izaya> Ariri: https://hackaday.com/2021/09/23/rescuing-a-wacom-digitizer-from-a-broken-lenovo-yoga-book/
L112[11:44:30] * Amanda meows and looks around, careful to not jostle her fairy fren
L113[11:52:58] <Spar​kyFox> \cats
L114[12:22:21] <Ash​irg> Amanda being cute as always
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L117[13:04:18] <Va​ur> %sip
L118[13:04:18] <MichiBot> You drink a muddy stainless steel potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! It changed Vaur's theme to one they don't like!
L119[13:04:28] <Va​ur> dang it
L120[13:16:16] <Amanda> %splash Vaur with mutable cyan potion
L121[13:16:16] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable cyan potion (New!) that splashes onto Vaur. Vaur turns into an apple sloth until Sozin's Comet returns.
L122[14:19:16] <Ash​irg> %pat Amanda
L123[14:19:23] <Ash​irg> %pet Amanda
L124[14:19:23] <MichiBot> Ashirg is brushing Amanda with a lightsaber. Amanda regains 1d4 => 2 hit points! A bug was found in the lightsaber and it was decommissioned.
L125[14:19:35] <Ash​irg> What
L126[14:19:47] <Forec​aster> I guess it wasn't on
L127[14:20:08] <Amanda> maybe it couldn't be turned on whichc is why it was decomissioned
L128[14:20:45] <Ash​irg> I see...
L129[14:20:49] <Ash​irg> %sip
L130[14:20:50] <MichiBot> You drink a muddy honey potion (New!). Ashirg turns into a platypus otter girl until they tonk.
L131[14:21:10] <Forec​aster> A platypotter
L132[14:21:28] <Ash​irg> Dangit
L133[14:21:32] <Ash​irg> Am I at least cute?
L134[14:21:53] <Forec​aster> both platypus and otters are cute so probably
L135[14:22:05] <Ash​irg> Yay
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L144[15:53:45] <Ariri> Izaya, ooo
L145[15:54:02] <Ariri> hackaday always has fun stuff
L146[16:23:24] <Amanda> but does two cutes make a cuter or a wrong?
L147[16:23:51] <Amanda> This requires more science
L148[16:24:04] <Amanda> %splash Inari with muddy honey potion
L149[16:24:04] <MichiBot> You fling a muddy honey potion that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns into a fox platypus girl until they have A Tomato potion.
L150[16:24:14] <Amanda> ... interesting
L151[16:24:24] <Amanda> Were you perhaps already a otter, @Ashrig?
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L154[16:30:53] <Va​ur> %tonk
L155[16:30:54] <MichiBot> Wah! Va​ur! You beat Ash​irg's previous record of 8 hours, 6 minutes and 26 seconds (By 18 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L156[16:30:55] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 8 hours, 25 minutes and 2 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00279 (0.00031 x 9) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.12963866 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L157[16:40:45] <Amanda> %choose farm or factory
L158[16:40:46] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Somebody once told me to roll with "farm"
L159[16:40:54] <Amanda> I see, I see
L160[16:41:03] <Amanda> Well my fairy fren says not to listen to strangers, so factory i tis
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L162[16:41:33] <Va​ur> and by factory you mean factorio or another game ?
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L164[16:44:19] <Amanda> factorio
L165[16:44:49] <Va​ur> mmm, how is your factory coming along ?
L166[16:46:50] <Amanda> I gave up on the new save I started, went back to the one I started awhile ago which is now a week of gametime in, currently trying to fix my electronic circuits issue
L167[16:47:10] <Amanda> I *think* I have it all ratioed now, just need to wait for the electronic circuits to filter in.
L168[16:47:26] <Amanda> I realsed shipping copper cable is much less efficent than copper plates
L169[16:47:49] <Amanda> s/filter in/filter in so the drones can finish placing inserters/
L170[16:47:49] <MichiBot> <Amanda> I *think* I have it all ratioed now, just need to wait for the electronic circuits to filter in so the drones can finish placing inserters.
L171[16:48:34] <Va​ur> yeah copper cables need to be part of the build and not belted 😄
L172[16:50:40] <Ash​irg> >Amanda: Were you perhaps already a otter, @Ash…
L173[16:50:40] <Ash​irg> aaaaa, I wanted fox....
L174[16:52:07] <Ash​irg> The IRC link is sometimes confusing
L175[16:52:14] <s_​a_m> https://tinyurl.com/yggbc2wp
L176[16:52:30] <Amanda> @s_a_m it's not hecking wimdy
L177[16:53:22] <Amanda> ( Does that pig work, or does my matrix <-> IRC bridge mangle it? )
L178[16:53:25] <Amanda> ping*
L179[16:53:47] <s_​a_m> it did work!
L180[16:54:19] <Ash​irg> It mangled you pinging me, but sam was pinged just fine
L181[16:54:55] <Amanda> oh, no, that's my fault, I thought you were Ash rig not ashirg
L182[16:55:08] <Amanda> lysdexia at work
L183[16:55:48] <Amanda> https://matrix.camnet.site/_matrix/media/r0/download/camnet.site/QMzgNxEgcRYKtPMwiPhjKhrw/427520_20210924125433_1.png
L184[16:56:02] <Amanda> @Vaur current produciton of green/red circuits
L185[16:56:20] <Amanda> I took out all the modules I plan to install until the bloody thing's finished building though
L186[16:57:01] <Amanda> oh hey, all the inserters are placed now
L187[16:57:29] <Amanda> 17 passive providers later and I'll be able to see how much this thing can produce
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L190[17:52:52] <Va​ur> oh a bot factory, interesting
L191[17:53:11] <Amanda> I like to blot out the sun with my drone swarms.
L192[17:53:25] <Amanda> mostly because my spatial reasoning has trouble making belts work
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L194[18:40:09] <oleshe> halo
L195[18:40:20] <Amanda> Greetings
L196[18:40:31] <Amanda> did you bring The Thing™?
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L198[18:51:32] <Amanda> guess not
L199[19:01:11] <Amanda> %reminders
L200[19:01:20] <Amanda> %listreminders
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L202[19:01:38] <Amanda> Hrm, wasn't there a command to list pending reminders?
L203[19:03:46] <Amanda> %reminders list
L204[19:03:52] <tech​wiz78> Dumb question, does OC have a way of making a touchscreen?
L205[19:04:55] <Amanda> a tier 2(3?) monitor without a keyboard attached can work for that
L206[19:05:08] <Amanda> I think there's a way to make it work with a keyboard as well, but I don't recall.
L207[19:08:45] <Mic​hiyo> %remind list
L208[19:08:45] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: Upcoming reminders
L209[19:08:46] <MichiBot> None. You have no reminders. But did you remember to rotate the fridge?
L210[19:08:52] <Mic​hiyo> Amanda ^
L211[19:08:55] <Amanda> %remind list
L212[19:08:56] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Upcoming reminders
L213[19:08:57] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: check https://nixpk.gs/pr-tracker.html?pr=138294 is merged before trying to update, revert if not At 09/29/2021 10:21:39 AM
L214[19:10:25] <Amanda> oh good, I can hopefully actually use next week's updates then
L215[19:10:47] <Mic​hiyo> %locate
L216[19:10:48] <MichiBot> I have located the ECHO-2 you asked for, it is at https://www.google.com/maps/@61.233790,-19.011073,15z
L217[19:11:08] <Mic​hiyo> Just south of Iceland neat.
L218[19:21:05] <Amanda> %locate Inari
L219[19:21:05] <MichiBot> I have located the talking spork you asked for, it is at https://www.google.com/maps/@50.957861,53.719207,15z
L220[19:22:12] <Amanda> Inari, the talking spork, is in.. Kazakhstan
L221[19:22:50] <s_​a_m> don't steal it
L222[19:22:59] <s_​a_m> you'll be shot down by the foxhound pilots
L223[19:23:27] <Amanda> %tell Inari how was Kazakhstan? Also I thought you were a fox, not a talking spork.
L224[19:23:28] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L227[19:44:30] <Amanda> o/
L228[19:59:52] <Forec​aster> `Tritium collected in a legitimate way should no longer be marked as stolen.`
L229[20:00:08] <Forec​aster> I was wondering why my carrier said "Donate stolen tritium"
L230[20:02:09] <Amanda> but you did steal it! From Universe-chan!
L231[20:13:18] <Forec​aster> https://i.imgur.com/aWiNF1z.gif
L232[20:13:26] <Forec​aster> Cat gets paid
L233[20:14:54] <Ocawes​ome101> my shell supports pipes now
L234[20:20:15] <Amanda> @Forecaster should have given them their cut earlier!
L235[20:20:53] <Amanda> %tell Inari The training is successful! https://imgur.com/gallery/KxmvZq7
L236[20:20:54] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L237[20:37:44] <Forec​aster> this is a new one https://tinyurl.com/yeo947qu
L238[20:37:55] <Forec​aster> never seen this error on the steam download page before
L239[20:50:03] <Amanda> probably a new error, they did just rebuild the thing entirely
L240[20:51:29] <Amanda> %choose spaaaace or factory or farm
L241[20:51:30] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I've heard "farm" is in these days
L242[20:51:38] <Amanda> Hrm.
L243[20:51:46] <Amanda> Nah, don't got the patience for farm
L244[20:52:27] <Amanda> Let's see how well my new laptop handles NMS
L245[20:54:45] <Amanda> First to download a 4.4GB update, I guess
L246[20:54:53] <Amanda> thought I had it set to auto-update
L247[21:05:29] <Forec​aster> I tried to start that after the new update came out and it just crashed on me
L248[21:06:09] <Forec​aster> or well, it started actually, but when I tried starting a new game it crashed to desktop
L249[21:10:55] <Amanda> Just a black screen, guess it still doesn't like the intel GPU
L250[21:11:07] <Amanda> Hung my wayland compositor as well
L251[21:12:05] <Forec​aster> I got to the starfield this time
L252[21:12:10] <Mic​hiyo> https://tinyurl.com/yz87ddk3
L253[21:12:18] <Forec​aster> No idea how long it's going to do this though
L254[21:12:33] <Amanda> Don't feel like booting my gaming rig back up, so time to find somethign else to do
L255[21:12:35] <Mic​hiyo> I won a Space Jam jersey! :D Not the character I was hoping for but still really neat
L256[21:12:51] <Forec​aster> Who were you hoping for
L257[21:14:41] <Mic​hiyo> Honestly anyone OTHER THAN Sylvester :p They had Lola, Bugs, Taz, and Sylvester AFAIK...
L258[21:15:00] <Mic​hiyo> I wanted Lola or Bugs, my wife loves Taz so that woulda been awesome too
L259[21:15:17] <Mic​hiyo> but Sylvester is still pretty cool.
L260[21:16:22] <Forec​aster> oh good, they still have the unnecessary, unskippable "initialization sequence" at the start of the game
L261[21:16:24] <Forec​aster> hooray
L262[21:17:14] <Mic​hiyo> Oh they had Marvin the Martian too, which IIRC the wife likes too
L263[21:18:00] <Mic​hiyo> Still awesome to have won though ^_^
L264[21:33:21] <Forec​aster> who needs shirts when you can have %loot
L265[21:33:21] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: You get a loot box! It contains a baseball cap with the mom's friendly robot company logo on it. (Junk)
L266[21:33:35] <Forec​aster> see? that's even better!
L267[21:33:46] <Forec​aster> everyone loves Mom's Friendly Robot Company
L268[21:36:39] ⇦ Quits: ThePiGuy24 (~ThePiGuy2@host-92-17-123-160.as13285.net) (Ping timeout: 192 seconds)
L269[21:47:09] <Amanda> %splash @Forecaster with shiny blue potion
L270[21:47:09] <MichiBot> You fling a shiny blue potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. A bard starts playing a lute behind @Forecaster. They don't stop.
L271[21:47:27] <Amanda> <Zelda-CDi>Good!</Zelda-CDi>
L272[21:58:42] <Forec​aster> D:
L273[22:05:43] <Va​ur> %loot
L274[22:05:43] <MichiBot> Va​ur: You get a loot box! It contains a broken .png. (Junk)
L275[22:11:37] <Amanda> %give MichiBot a rare slice of steak
L276[22:11:38] * MichiBot accepts the rare slice of steak and adds it to her inventory
L277[22:13:34] ⇨ Joins: ThePiGuy24 (~ThePiGuy2@host-92-17-123-160.as13285.net)
L278[22:30:18] <Ash​irg> %give MichiBot A bottle of special air
L279[22:30:18] * MichiBot accepts the bottle of special air and adds it to her inventory
L280[22:31:01] <Ash​irg> It's mountain air from Switzerland, before anybody gets weird ideas
L281[23:21:18] <Amanda> %choose rain box time or irradiate
L282[23:21:19] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Somebody once told me to roll with "irradiate"
L283[23:26:57] <Amanda> %loot
L284[23:26:57] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: You get a loot box! It contains an empty shot glass. (Junk)
L285[23:27:11] <Amanda> Hey! I was promised a glowing redstone potion!
L286[23:27:24] <Amanda> ( Potions come in shot glasses, right? )
L287[23:34:53] <Z0id​berg> https://tinyurl.com/ygf64gm3
L288[23:35:37] <Amanda> Why'd you put butter in perfectly good hot chocolate?
L289[23:57:11] <Amanda> %choose laptop nap time?
L290[23:57:11] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Yes! Do it now!
L291[23:57:27] <Amanda> D: Okay okay, I'm disconnecting the bluetooth and letting it sleep! D:
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