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L1[01:06:59] <Ariri> Factory-building games
are not the medium-brain time-killers I thought they would be
L2[01:07:27] <Ariri> DSP makes my head
hurt
L3[01:26:35]
<Kodos>
DSP?
L4[01:28:14] <Amanda> Dyson sphere
program
L5[01:29:19] <Amanda> Ariri it lowers the
cognitive load to not worry overly about ratios and such
L6[01:30:10] <Amanda> I only start to care
about ratios and performance when it becomes a big enough
bottleneck to whatever I'm currently trying to research/build
L7[01:31:05] <Amanda> For instance in my
spaceexp Factorio factory I'm probably going to make an outpost for
generating rocket fuel
L8[01:32:09] <Amanda> And make my oil
processing outpost also generate fuel cubes
L9[01:42:31]
<Vaur>
%tonkout
L10[01:42:32] <MichiBot> Woah! Vaur! You
beat your own previous record of 9 hours, 14 minutes and 6 seconds
(By 2 hours, 52 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L11[01:42:33] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.012 tonk points! plus 0.022
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 2.96370204,
Position #2 Need 0.15102866 more points to pass Forecaster!
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L13[02:56:14] <prisma> robots can't flash
EEPROMs, right?
L14[02:58:57] <prisma> they don't have a
way to insert them afaik
L15[02:59:01] <prisma> at least
L16[02:59:05] <prisma> not without external
help
L17[03:06:39] *
Amanda meows goodnight to elfi, and all her other fairy frens,
zzzmews
L19[03:35:15] <prisma> drones cant get
relative coords right?
L20[03:35:51] <prisma> er
L21[03:35:53] <prisma> absolute
L22[03:36:00] <Izaya> nop
L23[03:36:10] <Izaya> you can build a nav
upgrade for absolute compared to a waypoint though, I believe
L24[03:37:19] <prisma> isnt that relative
to map center
L25[03:37:21] <prisma> which is uh
L26[03:37:24] <prisma> screwy
L27[03:37:27] <prisma> the map algorithm is
*weird*
L28[03:37:30] <Izaya> something like
that
L29[03:44:22] <prisma> is there anything
that allows me to send a message to an (IRL) server using the net
card and then relay that message to a set of connected clients
(*excluding* the sender)?
L30[03:44:42] <Izaya> hmmmmmmmmmmmm
L31[03:44:49] <Izaya> I think vtunnel
excludes the sender?
L32[03:44:58] <prisma> how does vtunnel
work?
L33[03:45:09] <Izaya> you set up a
server
L34[03:45:18] <Izaya> then you install the
client, point it to your server
L35[03:45:25] <Izaya> then it pretends to
be a tunnel card
L36[03:45:37] <prisma> tunnel/linked cards
cant do like
L37[03:45:40] <prisma> A to B, C, D,
E
L38[03:45:42] <prisma> tho right?
L39[03:45:46] <Izaya> a fake one can
L41[03:45:57] <prisma> fair
L42[03:46:06] <prisma> the problem is
tho
L43[03:46:10] <prisma> i need something
like an API
L44[03:46:19] <prisma> basically i need
distributed computing but not
L45[03:46:22] <prisma> in OC
L46[03:46:31] <prisma> distributedn't
L47[03:51:56] <Izaya> do you need to send
to specific ones?
L48[03:54:14] <prisma> im building a drone
swarm, so maybe?
L49[03:54:33] <Izaya> ono
L50[03:54:37] <prisma> why ono
L51[03:54:42] <Izaya> make sure not to have
them engage in formation flying
L52[03:54:46] <Izaya> I've crashed servers
doing tht
L53[03:54:49] <prisma> seriously?
L54[03:54:57] <prisma> how
L55[03:55:07] <prisma> are drones really
intensive
L56[03:55:13] <Izaya> no idea how tbh
L57[03:55:19] <Izaya> but I had a drone
swarm and it crashed the server
L58[03:55:30] <Izaya> this was at the ...
first? BTM
L59[03:55:42] <prisma> btm?
L60[03:55:50] <Izaya> better than
minecon
L61[03:55:56] <prisma> ah
L62[03:56:03] <Izaya> the in-game modding
cons that asie organised years ago
L63[03:56:07] <prisma> oh those
L64[03:57:27] <prisma> i might not even
need drones, just robots
L65[03:57:51] <Izaya> this was literal
years ago though
L66[03:57:54] <Izaya> it's probably fine
now
L67[03:57:59] <Izaya> but I haven't been
game to try it
L68[03:58:01] <Izaya> lmao
L69[03:58:40] <prisma> ah
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L72[04:23:11] <prisma> robots can interface
with all inventories right?
L73[04:23:14] <prisma> no matter the
mod
L74[04:56:39]
<Forecaster> Generally yes
L75[04:56:54]
<Forecaster> There are some different
interfaces
L76[04:57:10]
<Forecaster> %tonk
L77[04:57:12] <MichiBot> Wah! Forecaster!
You beat Vaur's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 14 minutes
and 39 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L78[04:57:13] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 3 hours, 14 minutes and 39 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00324 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#1.
L79[05:28:49] <Ariri> Amanda, humu
humu
L80[05:28:52] <Ariri> i see
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L84[06:13:41] <Izaya> oh, now that's a neat
detail
L85[06:19:17]
<Forecaster> `Fleet Carrier asset value
has been added to the Commander total net worth statistic.`
L86[06:19:21]
<Forecaster> nice
L87[06:44:10] <prisma> do robots respect
sided inventories?
L88[06:44:17] <prisma> e.g. can a robot
access all slots of a furnace from one side
L89[06:44:39]
<Forecaster> the inventory controller can
I think
L90[06:44:44] <prisma> ah
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L100[08:16:56]
<Forecaster> @Michiyo I don't know if you
have the Founders World permit, but if you do we're going to
Shinrarta Dezhra now
L101[08:17:14]
<Michiyo> I
don't AFAIK
L102[08:17:31]
<Forecaster> it requires getting the Elite
rank in one of the categories
L103[08:17:42]
<Forecaster> (or doing "secret
missions"??)
L104[08:17:42]
<Michiyo>
THen I 100% don't
L105[08:18:31]
<Forecaster> I have Elite in trade,
probably on account of all the mining I do
L106[08:20:35]
<Forecaster> oh wait, it said
"secretive methods" which refer to the kickstarter
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L110[09:05:49] <Izaya> Michiyo: I have a
change request
L111[09:06:40] <Izaya> can you make the
rolldoors slightly shorter when stowed so they aren't Z-fighting
with the block
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L118[09:29:02]
<Kristopher38> prisma: last time I tried
it didn't work but you're welcome to prove me wrong, I might've
missed something
L119[09:29:18]
<Forecaster> disconnected
L120[09:31:51]
<Kristopher38> %tell prisma last time I
tried it didn't work but you're welcome to prove me wrong, I
might've missed something [Edited]
L121[09:31:51] <MichiBot> Kristopher38:
prisma will be notified of this message when next seen.
L122[09:58:12]
<Forecaster> I now have 21 ships,
apparently
L123[09:59:05]
<Forecaster> 2 are duplicates, so I have
19 unique ships
L124[10:00:24]
<Forecaster> there are 38 ship models in
Elite
L125[10:01:24]
<Forecaster> I have exactly half of them
it seems
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L127[10:18:50] <tomtomathom> hello
L128[10:19:26] <tomtomathom> goodbye
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L130[10:20:43] <Izaya> I'm impressed
L131[10:20:54] <Izaya> they said bye
before leaving, even if they only stuck around for ... 1:30
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<Vaur>
%tonk
L135[10:26:50] <MichiBot> Darn it! Vaur!
You beat Forecaster's previous record of 3 hours, 14 minutes and
39 seconds (By 2 hours, 14 minutes and 58 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L136[10:26:51] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 5 hours, 29 minutes and 38 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.009 (0.00225 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2.
Need 0.14526866 more points to pass Forecaster!
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L142[11:15:57] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
make gitlab generate binaries for the ebook thingy
L143[12:07:22] <Amanda> Or: factory
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<Forecaster> %sip
L150[14:28:40] <MichiBot> You drink a
light honey potion (New!). The next glass of water Forecaster has
tastes like Violet.
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L152[15:41:13]
<Kodos>
%sip
L153[15:41:14] <MichiBot> You drink a
viscous blue potion (New!). Kodos turns into a copper octopus until
they tonk.
L154[15:41:37]
<Kodos>
Octocop forever
L155[16:04:27]
<Vaur>
%sip
L156[16:04:28] <MichiBot> You drink a
smooth yellow potion (New!). Vaur's favourite hair suddenly
disintegrates.
L157[16:04:40]
<Forecaster> %tonk
L158[16:04:41] <MichiBot> Eh! Forecaster!
You beat Vaur's previous record of 5 hours, 29 minutes and 38
seconds (By 8 minutes and 12 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L159[16:04:41] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 5 hours, 37 minutes and 50 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00084 (0.00014 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #1.
L160[16:04:48]
<Forecaster> almost forgot
L161[16:08:16] <ben_mkiv> %sip
L162[16:08:16] <MichiBot> You drink a
porous violium potion (New!). A genie appears out of the empty
bottle, turns it into a pie, then vanishes.
L163[16:08:40] <ben_mkiv> exactly what i
wished for
L164[16:08:45] <ben_mkiv> that the genie
vanishes, ofc
L165[16:14:37]
<Michiyo>
What! I didn't oversleep and almost miss an appointment to call a
customer... I'm insulted you would accuse me of such a thing!
L166[16:15:01] <ben_mkiv> %bap
Michiyo
L167[16:15:01] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv baps
Michiyo with last year's creap!
L168[16:36:12]
<Vaur>
%sip
L169[16:36:12] <MichiBot> You drink a
porous ruby potion (New!). The bottle turns into a caterium
bow.
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L172[16:50:30]
<Ocawesome101> i'm looking at rewriting
cynosure for ULOS v2.0, and one of my goals is to make a luaposix
implementation easier by changing how userspace interacts with
it
L173[16:50:38]
<Ocawesome101> probably will be even more
memory hungry than ULOS v1.0
L174[16:51:07]
<Ocawesome101> it may end up being ULOS
22.1 given how i'm doing versioning now
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L177[17:04:22]
<s_a_m>
@Ocawesome101 i have to rewrite part of tsukinet so reliable mode
will be faster :P
L179[17:23:38] <MichiBot> Thu Sep 23
05:18:43 UTC 2021 @repkord: The joys of living on the bleeding
edge- a thread:
L180[17:27:32] <Inari> oh no
L181[17:27:37] <Inari> a single car
broke
L182[17:27:46] <Inari> this would've never
happened to any other car maker ever
L183[17:28:09]
<Forecaster> not having a manual neutral
override is a bit silly though
L184[17:28:15] <Inari> fair
L185[17:28:31] <Inari> should always have
some manual overrides if something is software controlled
L186[17:32:14] <ben_mkiv> apparently it
has
L187[17:32:20] <ben_mkiv> but the owner
doesn't know his car well enough
L188[17:33:22] <Inari> owner says he tried
it and it didn't wokr, apparnetly it's a button on the display (or
in the app) anyway, not an actual physical override
L189[17:33:26]
<Forecaster> sounds like something the
Tesla person they were texting should have informed them of so they
could get the car off the road
L191[17:33:38] <MichiBot> Thu Sep 23
13:47:14 UTC 2021 @repkord: @on_tesla @Tesla Yep... had a lot of
time to try a lot of stuff... none of that worked.
L192[17:33:55] <Elfi> Yeah, I skimmed the
comment threads, he really did do everything he could
L193[17:34:18] <Elfi> No physical
overrides is a terrible idea in something with moving parts
L194[17:34:30] <Amanda>
s/something/anything/
L195[17:34:31] <MichiBot> <Elfi> No
physical overrides is a terrible idea in anything with moving
parts
L196[17:34:44] <ben_mkiv> indeed, but you
have that situation in a lot of modern cars, not?
L197[17:34:52] <Elfi> I don't drive.
L198[17:34:55] <Elfi> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L199[17:35:26]
<Forecaster> my car is from around 10
years ago and is manual
L200[17:35:30] <Inari> afaik a lot of cars
are computer-driven, yeah
L201[17:35:44] <Inari> even if it has an
actual lever, often that is just connected to a computer
L202[17:35:53]
<Forecaster> I'd love a brand new EV (not
a Tesla though)
L203[17:35:55] <Inari> but I also don't
know
L204[17:35:58] <Inari> *don't drive
L205[17:36:01] <Inari> So *shrug*
L206[17:36:11] <ben_mkiv> yea inari, thats
what i thought
L207[17:36:21]
<Michiyo>
My car is 24 years old.. lol
L208[17:36:27] <ben_mkiv> most modern
automatic cars don't really have mechanical connection to the
transmission
L209[17:36:38] <ben_mkiv> + electric
handbrakes and shit
L210[17:37:06] <ben_mkiv> so when you get
it out of neutral without battery, you may roll down the hill
xD
L211[17:37:13] <ben_mkiv> out of/out
to
L212[17:38:24] <Inari> kinda dumb
L213[17:50:19]
<s_a_m> my
2000 accord has a 5 speed :)
L214[17:59:42] <Elfi> Good to know I'm
probably better off not driving still
L216[18:10:38] <dequbed> Also, related to
the EV woes above: Depending on how Teslas are built and what
exactly built you *can't* have a physical override. Like the
physical override would be "yes please go unscrew these four
cable connections which may or may not have 600V potential to the
ground you're standing on kthxbye"
L217[18:10:58] <dequbed> s/built you/broke
you/
L218[18:10:58] <MichiBot> <dequbed>
Also, related to the EV woes above: Depending on how Teslas are
built and what exactly broke you *can't* have a physical override.
Like the physical override would be "yes please go unscrew
these four cable connections which may or may not have 600V
potential to the ground you're standing on kthxbye"
L219[18:13:37]
<SparkyFox>
see for open printers, is there anything for characters per line?
as of right now, it adds `...` once a limit is reached, but doesnt
say anything about it on the writeln side
L220[18:47:19]
<Michiyo>
>SparkyFox: see for open printers, is there anythin…
L221[18:47:20]
<Michiyo>
Because that's handled in the paper UI, not in the print
methods
L223[18:47:48]
<SparkyFox>
ohhh.. thanks
L224[18:48:56]
<Michiyo>
which means you can print a 128 character line, the paper will only
show 30 characters, but if you scan it, you should see the whole
128 characters
L225[18:49:35]
<Michiyo>
I.. should have added line length checks to the writeLine method...
but I didn't!
L226[18:49:37]
<Michiyo>
so meh
L227[18:49:44]
<SparkyFox>
all in the one line? i mean like...
L228[18:49:48]
<SparkyFox>
welp 😛
L229[18:51:47]
<SparkyFox>
it is a bit hard when youre doing writeln and trying to judge the
line limit without any throw exceptions
L230[19:00:17]
<s_a_m> the
entire county's police force is at a highschool near me
L231[19:04:52]
<SparkyFox>
good thing im not being mugged
L232[19:05:01] <Corded> * <Michiyo>
evil grin
L235[19:28:23]
<Ocawesome101> > i have to rewrite part
of tsukinet
L236[19:28:23]
<Ocawesome101> @sam nice
L238[19:28:52] <MichiBot> Thu Sep 23
02:46:05 UTC 2021 @CryptoWhale: BREAKING: #Bitcoin foundation
website has been hacked, with a “double your money” scam now
appearing on the front p… <
https://t.co/mzRYdfQp2T>
L239[20:38:25]
<s_a_m> so,
update on what i posted earlier
L241[20:42:55] <Elfi> The sheer number of
articles they have about that area's school district makes it sound
like this sort of bullshit is not uncommon
L242[20:43:12] <Elfi> Like... what a
shitshow. wow.
L243[20:44:53]
<s_a_m> the
school district itself is a shitshow but that particular area aint
great
L244[20:59:36] <Inari> "Our European
visitors are important to us."
L245[20:59:48] <Inari> Apparently not
enough to implement stuff in like the 2 years it's been required
tho
L247[21:58:38] <Izaya> thinking about
writing an IOS style command parser
L248[21:59:04] <Izaya> where flags and
arguments are (shortenable) whole words
L249[22:00:59] <Izaya> sh ip dh bind ->
show ip dhcp binding
L250[22:01:31] <Izaya> extended arguments
like --word=argument would end up as two separate words
L251[22:03:47] <Izaya> ip dhcp pool
clients address 10.0.2.33 hardware-address what.what.what could be
expressed in a more unix style as ip dhcp pool --name=clients
--address=10.0.2.33 --hardware-address=what.what.what
L252[22:28:06]
<Ocawesome101> IOS -> iOS or something
else?
L253[22:28:13] <Amanda> Cisco IOS
L254[22:28:19]
<Ocawesome101> ah
L255[22:28:22] <Amanda> ( Which came first
)
L256[22:28:39]
<Ocawesome101> oh yeah cisco holds the
trademark for that, don't they
L257[22:28:45] <Amanda> yup
L258[22:29:08] <Amanda> Internet Operating
System or so, it's what their routers run
L259[22:29:35] <Amanda>
s/routers/commercial-focused routers/
L260[22:29:36] <MichiBot> <Amanda>
Internet Operating System or so, it's what their commercial-focused
routers run
L261[22:29:46] <Izaya> we don't talk about
their consumer routers
L263[22:40:24]
<s_a_m>
nice
L264[22:47:03]
<Ocawesome101> that looks rather a lot
like discord
L265[22:47:48] <Izaya> gajim has made
quite a few poor decisions of late
L266[22:48:01] <Izaya> circular avatars,
for example
L267[22:48:06] <Izaya> fuck my spatial
awareness, I guess
L268[23:00:15] ⇦
Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@port-92-192-217-230.dynamic.as20676.net)
(Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L269[23:16:50]
<Kristopher38> border-radius
pandemic
L270[23:28:49]
<s_a_m>
linux tsukinet stack: soon(tm)
L272[23:38:30] <Izaya> can you resend
that
L273[23:38:36] <Izaya> want to test if my
emoji -> shortcode script works
L274[23:38:58]
<Ocawesome101> 👀
L275[23:39:03] <Izaya> excellent
L276[23:39:11]
<Ocawesome101> maybe some 👀 in the middle
of a sentence too
L277[23:39:16] <Izaya> yup :D
L278[23:39:21]
<Ocawesome101> nice
L279[23:39:24]
<s_a_m>
@Ocawesome101 hey, how about VELX :P
L280[23:39:31]
<Ocawesome101> docs?
L281[23:39:38]
<Ocawesome101> might look at it
L282[23:39:40] <Izaya> Amanda: hey you
fixed the special characters getting eaten by the bridge script
when you were using weechat right?
L283[23:40:04]
<s_a_m>
uhh
L284[23:40:09]
<s_a_m> i
don't have any docs for v2 iirc
L285[23:40:11] <Amanda> Izaya: I don't
recall, but I can send you the version of the script I was using if
you'd like
L286[23:40:15]
<s_a_m> but
i do have docs for v1
L287[23:40:22]
<s_a_m>
...which is the only version i use anyways
L288[23:40:27] <Amanda> I modified it a
bit, but don't recall all the changes I made
L289[23:40:44] <Izaya> yeah I'll take a
look
L290[23:40:44]
<s_a_m> oh
i do have v2 docs
L291[23:40:46]
<s_a_m> but
w/e
L294[23:41:23] <Amanda> .... or I would,
but ~/.weechat is empty?
L295[23:42:29] <Amanda> I should probably
investigate that, because I don't remember deleting it
L296[23:43:00]
<s_a_m> i
need to rewrite/nuke many of those "random docs"
L297[23:43:01]
<s_a_m>
:P
L298[23:44:34]
<s_a_m>
huh
L299[23:49:52] <Izaya> hmm we'll see how
that change works
L300[23:51:08] <Amanda> oh
L301[23:51:15] <Amanda> it's in
`/var/lib/weechat` that's why
L302[23:51:20] <Amanda> not sure why I
have an empty ~/.weechat then
L303[23:51:48] <Izaya> I updated and now
all my 3D software is running like shit
L304[23:51:50] <Izaya> what the fuck
L305[23:52:28] <Amanda> mesa deciding to
use software rendering for fuck-knows-why
L306[23:52:30] <Amanda> ?
L307[23:52:32]
<pixel>
heya
L308[23:52:45] <Izaya> glxgears is
normal
L310[23:55:10] <Izaya> well
L311[23:55:18] <Izaya> glxinfo says I'm
using direct rendering
L312[23:57:19] <Izaya> well, I set my
minecraft graphics settings to fast and no smooth lighting
L313[23:57:24] <Izaya> I've doubled my
framerate! to 4 FPS.
L314[23:57:28] <Izaya> what the
fuck.
L315[23:57:41] <Izaya> KSP was also
running badly but not this badly
L316[23:57:43]
<Michiyo>
Hmm did I leave myself logged into IRC somewhere....
L317[23:57:45]
<Michiyo>
Michiyo
L318[23:57:51]
<Michiyo>
yes... now where
L319[23:58:03] <Michiyo> Ah, here.
L320[23:58:07] <Amanda> o/
L321[23:58:23] <Michiyo> \o
L322[23:59:24]
<Vaur>
%tonk
L323[23:59:24] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
Vaur! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 5 hours, 37
minutes and 50 seconds (By 2 hours, 16 minutes and 53 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L324[23:59:25] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 7 hours, 54 minutes and 43 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.01368 (0.00228 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#2. Need 0.13242866 more points to pass Forecaster!
L325[23:59:32] <Amanda> %choose
"backups" group?
L326[23:59:32] <MichiBot> Amanda:
""backups" group" doesn't really seem like a
good idea right now.