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L7[00:19:33] <Amanda> %choose space nukes or (hopefully?) Fluffy lesbians
L8[00:19:34] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I have a pamphlet that says never to engage in "space nukes", so you should definitely do it!
L9[00:20:17] <Amanda> Hrm. Well today *is* the one day the pamphlets are sure to be ill omens...
L10[00:20:53] <Amanda> I'll try the lesbians, if it's not fluffy enough I'll go to the space nukes
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L19[01:08:58] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L20[01:08:59] <MichiBot> Yeah! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 41 minutes and 48 seconds (By 45 minutes and 1 second)! I hope you're happy!
L21[01:09:00] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.79997255, Position #1
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L27[02:07:19] <Shuud​oushi> so, as it turns out, the raspberry pi doesn't like it when you cool it's SOC to below 16c...
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L35[03:45:32] <prisma> how many colours is a tier 3 GPU capable of?
L36[03:45:39] <prisma> (not how many it can display at once)
L37[03:48:06] <B​ob> there's no color displaying limit, just depth
L38[03:48:19] <prisma> HUH
L39[03:48:19] <B​ob> i think its 256 for Tier3
L40[03:48:22] <prisma> oops caps
L41[03:48:25] <prisma> oh okay
L42[03:48:37] <prisma> im comparing a maxed OC device to a super nintendo
L43[03:49:17] <prisma> 8-bit depth :I
L44[03:50:13] <prisma> is there any way to get.. more than 256 colours?
L45[03:56:19] <B​ob> ¯\\(ツ)\/¯
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L47[04:02:22] <fingercomp> T3 GPUs have a fixed palette of 240 colors and a mutable 16-color palette — initialized to grayscale by default, but you can redefine any entry to an arbitrary 24-bit color
L48[04:03:37] <Elfi> 240 is admittedly an interesting number--any idea what it maps out to?
L49[04:04:54] <fingercomp> 240 = 6 * 8 * 5
L50[04:05:04] <Elfi> I know "websafe" palettes worked on a 6^3 map but--ah
L51[04:05:05] <fingercomp> 6 choices for red, 8 for green and 5 for blue
L52[04:05:42] <Elfi> That does seem somewhat arbitrary but I suppose it works
L53[04:06:31] <Elfi> That also explains why I could not find the gamut for the life of me when I was experimenting with making a CRPG on it, starting with test sprites
L54[04:08:42] <prisma> Dang, I need like
L55[04:08:45] <prisma> 15-bit colour
L56[04:08:55] <prisma> Wait
L57[04:09:05] <prisma> Can the palette have *ANY* 24-bit colour?
L58[04:09:37] <fingercomp> Elfi: the human eye is most perceptible to the shades of green, less to red, and the blue shades are distinguished most poorly, generally speaking, so that explains the choice of the channel depths
L59[04:09:41] <Elfi> Only the last 16 entries
L60[04:09:49] <prisma> But they can have any colour?
L61[04:09:53] <fingercomp> yes
L62[04:10:02] <prisma> what happens if the palette changes?
L63[04:10:05] <fingercomp> it doesn't mean you get to have more than 256 colors displayed at the same time
L64[04:10:06] <prisma> does the entire screen re-render?
L65[04:10:10] <fingercomp> yep
L66[04:10:13] <prisma> dangh
L67[04:10:17] <prisma> instantly?
L68[04:10:17] <SoraFi​restorm> but I don't think there's a way to like... DMA the palette to something else
L69[04:10:18] <SoraFi​restorm> yeah
L70[04:10:21] <prisma> fuck
L71[04:10:43] <Elfi> fingercomp: oh, I know, but it makes finding a true grey impossible if you happen to need that 16-colour palette for something else
L72[04:10:57] <Elfi> And prisma, think of it as, like... a PC-8801!
L73[04:11:00] <prisma> [cries in 15-bit colour]
L74[04:11:06] <prisma> i need 15-bit ;-;
L75[04:11:18] <Elfi> Also isn't the SNES 12-bit?
L76[04:11:22] <prisma> Nope
L77[04:11:24] <prisma> 15-bit
L78[04:11:24] <SoraFi​restorm> I never did get to a point where I needed so many colors myself
L79[04:11:25] <SoraFi​restorm> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L80[04:11:37] <Elfi> Hmmm
L81[04:11:51] <SoraFi​restorm> The most I ever needed was repaletting a T2
L82[04:11:52] <Elfi> Yeah, you're right, just recounted the colour ranges in my head
L83[04:12:03] <Elfi> What was I thinking of then, the Amiga...?
L84[04:12:19] <fingercomp> (btw, if you happen to have a T3 GPU bound to a T2 screen, the 16-color palette of is variable nonetheless)
L85[04:12:46] <SoraFi​restorm> The 16 color palette was configurable even if you only had a T2
L86[04:12:48] <SoraFi​restorm> at least at the time
L87[04:12:51] <SoraFi​restorm> which was several years ago
L88[04:12:57] <SoraFi​restorm> ... I think
L89[04:13:07] <prisma> what happens if you have more than one gpu
L90[04:13:14] <fingercomp> I don't think you can mutate the palette with a T2 gpu
L91[04:13:57] <fingercomp> but I'll check that
L92[04:14:07] <SoraFi​restorm> Having more than one GPU doesn't really do you anything
L93[04:14:11] <prisma> Dang
L94[04:14:15] <SoraFi​restorm> because I don't think you can bind multiple GPUs to a single screen
L95[04:16:00] <prisma> so a T3 GPU is between an NES and an SNES
L96[04:16:02] <prisma> Huh
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L98[04:16:10] <Elfi> I did at one point consider a GPU/screen addon with pixel buffers but I think that ship sailed years ago as I moved away from MC
L99[04:16:49] <Elfi> And yeah it was the Amiga that was 12-bit colour
L100[04:17:35] <fingercomp> huh, so the palette is mutable even if you only have a t2 gpu, apparently
L101[04:17:54] <Elfi> As for the T3 I'd put it more like the original VGA card
L102[04:18:51] <Izaya> you can use a single GPU with multiple screens though :p
L103[04:18:58] <Elfi> (Though technically those were remappable to an 18-bit gamut but we'll say VGA bound to websafeish colours)
L104[04:24:51] <SoraFi​restorm> >finge​rcomp: huh, so the palette is mutable even if you onl…
L105[04:24:52] <SoraFi​restorm> that's what I remembered lol
L106[04:25:34] <a​ws> People, tell me a solution for open computers.
L107[04:25:34] <a​ws> the problem is that in gregtech all labels are made - gregtech: 444543.
L108[04:25:34] <a​ws> are there any other ways to get the item name besides getStackInSlot (side: number, slot: number) .label
L109[04:46:30] <Va​ur> %tonk
L110[04:46:30] <MichiBot> Kapow! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 37 minutes and 32 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L111[04:46:31] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours, 37 minutes and 32 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00363)
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L113[05:09:00] <Izaya> https://retrohax.net/acorn-archimedes-a3020-refurb-and-mods/
L114[05:41:56] <Amanda> Hey, who gave authorization for the time skip!
L115[05:42:49] <Amanda> It was 2100, I started hallucinating, and now it's suddenly 0200!?
L116[05:43:13] <Izaya> hate it when that happens
L117[05:43:35] <Izaya> I spent 7 hours yesterday reading diakko LWA fics and I feel kinda dirty now
L118[05:44:40] <Amanda> %choose some shorter hallucinations or unconscious hallucinations
L119[05:44:41] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I've learned anything in life it's that you always pick "unconscious hallucinations"
L120[05:44:50] <Amanda> Fiiine
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L123[06:10:49] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/ygen54uw
L124[06:11:09] <bad at​ vijya> do ya ever use nuclear weapons to take out a nuclear bomber
L125[06:34:43] <Izaya> Amanda: so I'm looking into re-doing the tape-devfs service for PsychOS to support multiple programs accessing the tape drive at once, by keeping an index in memory and seeking to it before each operation; do you think there's any point to keeping around the no-rewind nodes for the tape drives?
L126[06:42:53] <Izaya> though "no-rewind" could save the current tape position when the tape device is added I guess
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L132[08:22:35] <Ar​iri> https://youtu.be/WnSDuSxofJs
L133[08:22:36] <MichiBot> K-KANSEI DORIFTO??? | length: 29s | Likes: 81,552 Dislikes: 1,069 Views: 2,648,669 | by Hanna Tan | Published On 4/1/2017
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L137[08:43:16] <ABC> test?
L138[08:43:30] <ABC> hello?
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L141[08:48:26] <SquidDev> %hello
L142[08:48:27] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
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L144[08:48:44] <ABC2> Hello?
L145[08:48:52] <ABC> It works!
L146[08:48:57] <bad at​ vijya> instant reply chat
L147[08:49:06] <ABC> i can talk to my self!
L148[08:49:12] <ABC2> YAY!
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L151[08:56:14] <Izaya> still waiting until someone starts two IRC clients on one OC machine and asks why everything is repeatingrepeating
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L153[09:10:35] <bad at​ vijya> heh
L154[09:11:25] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L155[09:11:27] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 3 hours, 37 minutes and 32 seconds (By 47 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L156[09:11:27] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 4 hours, 24 minutes and 55 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00316 (0.00079 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.44444185 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L159[10:26:25] <Forec​aster> %sip
L160[10:26:25] <MichiBot> You drink a boiling tan potion (New!). When Forecaster drinks the last drop, a bucket of water materializes above their head and dumps its contents over them. Forecaster avoids the bucket and it's content! (15 vs DC 8)
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L162[10:29:20] <Va​ur> %sip
L163[10:29:20] <MichiBot> You drink a boiling ocean potion (New!). When Vaur drinks the last drop, a bucket of water materializes above their head and dumps its contents over them. Vaur avoids the bucket and it's content! (11 vs DC 8)
L164[10:52:46] <Forec​aster> MichiBot trying to drench people today
L165[11:03:09] <Snai​lDOS> can I add a IRC viewer bot? :thonk:
L166[11:03:39] <Izaya> a) bots must be approved by channel operators b) a what
L167[11:03:49] <Snai​lDOS> o i see
L168[11:04:10] <Snai​lDOS> even for a non chatting one?
L169[11:04:15] <Snai​lDOS> just a chat viewer?
L170[11:05:04] <Izaya> so you want ... what? a client?
L171[11:05:30] <Snai​lDOS> i dont know much about the IRC terminology, but I'd assume it's a client.
L172[11:06:19] <Izaya> is this for in-game or just so you can have it sit on your desktop or what
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L176[11:09:19] <AioLabsMobile> hello?
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L178[11:11:17] <AioLabs> hello?
L179[11:11:25] <AioLabsMobile> oh
L180[11:11:45] <AioLabsMobile> ok i think i understand now
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L183[11:13:11] <AioLabs> neat so i can use this thing to talk to myself over the internet.
L184[11:13:17] <Aio> testing
L185[11:13:22] <Amanda> Izaya: what the the no-rewind nodes even for
L186[11:13:37] <AioLabs> hello?
L187[11:13:50] <Amanda> Aio*: please don't use that channel as a notebook
L188[11:14:04] <Amanda> s/that/this/
L189[11:14:04] <MichiBot> <Amanda> Aio*: please don't use this channel as a notebook
L190[11:14:05] <Izaya> so you can append to the tape without having to read the data, and without having to keep a specific file handle around
L191[11:14:18] <AioLabs> oh sorry im just trying to understand what this is
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L193[11:14:50] <Amanda> Open google, search "Wikipedia IRC"
L194[11:15:04] <AioLabs> right, sorry
L195[11:16:01] <AioLabs> while you are here h
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L197[11:16:39] <Amanda> Izaya: ah. Not sure how much work it'd be but maybe a per-process variable then? Though I guess that doesn't much matter since different processes would be clashing anywau
L198[11:17:11] <Izaya> when it was single-access it made more sense, kinda
L199[11:18:44] <Amanda> Man, today will suck. Just woke up, couldn't get back to sleep due to noisy Tweety birds outside my window. Total: ~5h of sleep
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L202[11:24:15] <Amanda> Izaya: oh, the no-rewind mode could do like you said, store the index per-tape, but also lock the node from use. It takes exclusive ownership
L203[11:24:43] <Izaya> hmmmmmmmmmmmm
L204[11:24:45] <Izaya> an interesting idea
L205[11:26:28] <Amanda> At the very least exclusive to the no-rewind node
L206[11:26:51] <Amanda> I guess "regular" access could continue as normal
L207[11:28:37] <Izaya> that makes sense
L208[11:29:30] <Izaya> I also want to eventually have it set up to optionally delay access and move the r/w head to allow audio playback while still accessing the tape
L209[11:30:10] <Kristo​pher38> whatcha hacking
L210[11:30:16] <Izaya> tape drivers B)
L211[11:30:37] <Izaya> design goal is to allow mtar archives to be mounted directly off a tape while also allowing audio playback from the tape
L212[11:30:45] <Izaya> simultaneously
L213[11:32:38] <Amanda> bah, it's a good thing ereaders don't take up energy to show the same thing. I forgot to turn mine off before passing out last night
L214[11:32:50] <Amanda> At least, no more energy than the CPU does
L215[11:33:59] <Izaya> pretty sure that koreader will put the device to sleep without changing the display if you wait long enough
L216[11:34:52] <Amanda> ah
L217[11:35:10] <Amanda> Wonder if that's why it seems to "lock up" sometimes
L218[11:35:31] <Izaya> speaking of, another 3 and a half hours of the same content as yesterday, today >.>
L219[11:37:55] <Amanda> didn't koreader usedto have a "sleeping" info box though? Wonder where that went
L220[11:38:06] <Amanda> Or did I mandella effect myself with that
L221[11:44:15] <Izaya> additionally part of the intention of these changes is to allow mounting most of the rootfs from a tape, and potentially some sort of CoW system in the future
L222[11:48:38] <Kristo​pher38> Izaya: oh, so it's like a demoscene thingy? You play music while loading the actual data?
L223[11:48:57] <Izaya> no I just want to be able to play music with my controller while also accessing the rootfs from it
L224[11:49:03] <Izaya> s/controller/computer/
L225[11:49:04] <MichiBot> <Izaya> no I just want to be able to play music with my computer while also accessing the rootfs from it
L226[11:50:29] <Kristo​pher38> Well if that's your usecase
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L231[13:01:44] <Izaya> https://pleroma.otter.sh/media/00492819bcfa44481037971ac1bb6d73589b9b083ab735cd1005130ef4cfd71b.png
L232[13:19:37] <Klea​dron> Now that sounds horrific.
L233[13:22:50] <ThePi​Guy24> i want
L234[13:23:42] <Izaya> didn't think about how the CDE toolbox could work on a touch screen
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L236[13:35:39] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L237[13:35:39] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forec​aster, you were not able to beat Forec​aster's record of 4 hours, 24 minutes and 55 seconds this time. 4 hours, 24 minutes and 13 seconds were wasted! Missed by 42 seconds!
L238[13:36:06] <Forec​aster> Dammit!
L239[13:44:06] <Va​ur> lol
L240[13:44:24] <Va​ur> feels bad when that happen
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L242[14:01:12] <REMOS> hello
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L245[14:36:34] <Snai​lDOS> tutel https://tinyurl.com/yjunnl44
L246[15:11:59] <Izaya> https://fedi.absturztau.be/emoji/custom/cowboyturtle.png
L247[15:15:25] <ThePi​Guy24> tutel
L248[15:15:43] <Izaya> took me way too long to figure out what that referred to
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L252[16:41:15] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: so i had a dumb idea
L253[16:41:22] <bad at​ vijya> time to make my own git host
L254[16:41:26] <bad at​ vijya> 👀
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L256[16:41:39] <bad at​ vijya> but it'd be done Soon(tm) since i have things i must do
L257[16:42:42] <Izaya> tl note: soon(TM) means never
L258[16:46:42] <bad at​ vijya> soon(tm) means whenever i feel like it
L259[16:46:51] <bad at​ vijya> maybe it's never, maybe it's tomorrow
L260[16:47:03] <Izaya> :p
L261[16:48:53] <bad at​ vijya> i should add an atom feed to luna...
L262[16:50:21] <bad at​ vijya> i also need to add more modularity to luna :pensivecowboy:
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L265[16:59:07] <bad at​ vijya> holy shit my sides are in orbit
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L269[18:47:32] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L270[18:47:32] <MichiBot> Hooray! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 4 hours, 24 minutes and 55 seconds (By 46 minutes and 58 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L271[18:47:33] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.3685307, Position #2 Need 0.43144185 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L273[18:59:46] <Inari> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/777970205238231080/856969774087798856/image0.png
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L276[19:22:31] <Ar​iri> haha
L277[19:38:56] <Izaya> argh
L278[20:09:00] <Ariri> garh
L279[20:22:17] <CompanionCube> Izaya: Skye: this is an actual government tweet: https://twitter.com/educationgovuk/status/1406990765906145281
L280[20:22:18] <MichiBot> Mon Jun 21 15:01:53 UTC 2021 @educationgovuk: We're encouraging schools across the UK to celebrate One Britain One Nation Day on 25 June, when children can learn… <https://t.co/zUHcjovkFm&gt;
L281[20:23:33] <CompanionCube> they're at the 'creepy songs for children to sing' stage
L282[21:00:37] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L283[21:00:37] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 13 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L284[21:00:38] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 13 minutes and 5 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00222)
L285[21:18:21] <Inari> We should make a OpenComputerCoin cryptocurrency that's used for %tonk
L286[21:18:21] <MichiBot> In​ari: You should probably read this: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L287[21:21:33] <Forec​aster> "used for" how
L288[21:21:46] <Inari> Well ike you get tokn points currently
L289[21:21:49] <Inari> But they're pointless
L290[21:21:52] <Inari> So you'd get coin instead!
L291[21:22:10] <Forec​aster> that is used for what
L292[21:22:28] <Inari> shh :p
L293[21:22:39] <Inari> My initial idea was BTC, but that would be expensive
L294[21:24:59] <Forec​aster> BlueToothCoin
L295[21:25:54] <Inari> With a proof technique that uses bluetooth frequencies like that other coin uses SSDs/HDDs!
L296[21:26:50] <Kristo​pher38> You can't just slap together technical-marketing jargon in hopes of it making sense
L297[21:26:58] <Inari> :p
L298[21:27:03] <Inari> I clearly just did
L299[21:27:03] <Inari> smh
L300[21:30:20] <Kristo​pher38> You're like: yes, what about it
L301[21:30:43] <Forec​aster> Techobabble is a widely recognized field
L302[21:35:38] <Inari> %give MichiBot technobabble
L303[21:35:38] * MichiBot accepts technobabble and adds it to her inventory
L304[21:38:48] <Amanda> %give MichiBot an inverted phase-conductive dilithium alloy
L305[21:38:49] * MichiBot accepts the inverted phase-conductive dilithium alloy and adds it to her inventory
L306[21:39:18] <Inari> %pet Amanda
L307[21:39:18] <MichiBot> Inari is petting Amanda with DNSSEC errors. Amanda regains 1d4 => 1 hit points! DNSSEC errors was suddenly outlawed and confiscated by the MIB.
L308[21:39:41] * Amanda fails to resolve Inari's pettings, acts huffy that nobody pets her anymore
L309[21:40:11] <Inari> :p
L310[21:40:12] <Amanda> %choose continue spoon-hunting or veg-out and halucinate the rest of the day away
L311[21:40:12] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Wait, what was the question again? Uhh... "continue spoon-hunting"?
L312[21:40:28] <Izaya> CompanionCube: mildly satisfying to see the replies rip them apart though
L313[21:40:29] <Amanda> Ah yes, the question was"What not to do"
L314[21:40:32] <Amanda> thanks MichiBot
L315[21:40:42] <bad at​ vijya> achoo
L316[21:40:44] <Inari> haha
L317[21:41:53] <CompanionCube> Izaya: the relevant scarfolk tweet is pretty good
L318[21:42:33] <CompanionCube> as is unintentional fail of missing out northern ireland and scheduling it for when a good chunk of scottish schools apparently have just stopped :p
L319[21:45:13] <CompanionCube> Izaya: also the expanded lyrics mention the opening of shores and people advancing at the same pace, both of which contrast wonderfully with the present government, you could probably make a bad joke about their desire to see a 'harmonised society' too
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L328[22:20:21] <Pineappl​e Quartz> how do I create an addon that adds new graphics units, network cards, and all that stuff?
L329[22:20:32] <Pineappl​e Quartz> like new hard drives, memory, and all that?
L330[22:56:04] <immibis> i would start by seeing how the existing ones work
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L333[23:06:43] <Pineappl​e Quartz> also, how do the servers work?
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L335[23:08:14] <Kristo​pher38> just like computers but with more slots for components
L336[23:21:19] <Pineappl​e Quartz> m
L337[23:48:06] <Ar​iri> is that short for mkay
L338[23:48:17] <Ar​iri> just curious
L339[23:49:56] <ThePi​Guy24> m'kay
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