L1[00:00:00] 
<Kleadron>
oh look, "Texture Pre-Loader: Found new texture:
/gui/allitems.png"
<Kleadron>
oh look, "Texture Pre-Loader: Found new texture:
/gui/allitems.png"L2[00:00:47] <Kleadron>
in the create menu too, scrolling through with a 128x texture pack
and it throws a baby into the gears
<Kleadron>
in the create menu too, scrolling through with a 128x texture pack
and it throws a baby into the gearsL3[00:00:51] <Kleadron>
creative menu*
<Kleadron>
creative menu*L4[00:22:37] <ThePiGuy24> https://forms.gle/zMoKmqYCY6bSsJTN6 here is a survey
people can complete if they want to, there is no benefit or
detriment to completing this survey, it is just to fulfil my
curiosity ;p (mods, let me know if this is not considered
acceptable)
<ThePiGuy24> https://forms.gle/zMoKmqYCY6bSsJTN6 here is a survey
people can complete if they want to, there is no benefit or
detriment to completing this survey, it is just to fulfil my
curiosity ;p (mods, let me know if this is not considered
acceptable)L5[00:24:22] <CompanionCube> well that's
un
L6[00:24:23] <Kristopher38> >are you a furry:
no
<Kristopher38> >are you a furry:
noL7[00:24:23] <Kristopher38> >survey ends
<Kristopher38> >survey endsL8[00:24:35] *
CompanionCube will pass, but is surprised
L9[00:24:37] <Kristopher38> I wonder what's the other
path
<Kristopher38> I wonder what's the other
pathL10[00:24:46] <ThePiGuy24> there is no other path
<ThePiGuy24> there is no other pathL11[00:25:04] <ThePiGuy24> im just trying to find the
distribution of furries among different fields of work/study
<ThePiGuy24> im just trying to find the
distribution of furries among different fields of work/studyL12[00:27:19] <Kristopher38> how are you going to reach
those in fields which aren't susceptible to sitting at the
computer
<Kristopher38> how are you going to reach
those in fields which aren't susceptible to sitting at the
computerL13[00:27:35] <Kleadron>
I'm going to bet it's just tech (because for some reason all of
them are there) or art (because they draw it and all the bells and
whistles)
<Kleadron>
I'm going to bet it's just tech (because for some reason all of
them are there) or art (because they draw it and all the bells and
whistles)L14[00:28:13] <ThePiGuy24> >Kristopher38: how are
you going to reach those in fields …
<ThePiGuy24> >Kristopher38: how are
you going to reach those in fields …L15[00:28:13] <ThePiGuy24> im not, but thats fine,
because the proportions should be the same, just a lower absolute
amount
<ThePiGuy24> im not, but thats fine,
because the proportions should be the same, just a lower absolute
amountL16[00:28:50] <Kleadron>
keep in mind the yes/no question for "are you a furry"
might be invalidated for people who might look at the title and
think it's only for furries to fill out
<Kleadron>
keep in mind the yes/no question for "are you a furry"
might be invalidated for people who might look at the title and
think it's only for furries to fill outL17[00:29:13] <ThePiGuy24> true, but i dont really know
how to combat that
<ThePiGuy24> true, but i dont really know
how to combat thatL18[00:48:54] <Amanda> %choose laptop nap
time?
L19[00:48:54] <MichiBot> Amanda: Hm, yeah
okay.
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dress, fabricates one out of a tungston alloy-fibre based
mesh
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L24[00:58:32] <Kristopher38> >ThePiGuy24: im not,
but thats fine, because the proportio…
<Kristopher38> >ThePiGuy24: im not,
but thats fine, because the proportio…L25[00:58:33] <Kristopher38> i don't think surveys work
that way
<Kristopher38> i don't think surveys work
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L27[01:00:19] <Kristopher38> it's fine if you survey a
random sample, but doing it your way you're biasing towards people
who you can reach
<Kristopher38> it's fine if you survey a
random sample, but doing it your way you're biasing towards people
who you can reachL28[01:01:25] <ThePiGuy24> im trying to survey a random
sample, thats why i have posted it in multiple different
places
<ThePiGuy24> im trying to survey a random
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L30[01:03:20] <Kristopher38> uh, like where?
<Kristopher38> uh, like where?L31[01:03:45] <Kristopher38> (cause maybe i'm just
assuming too much)
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L33[01:13:51] <Elfi> :o
L34[01:14:06] * Elfi
has a very shiny dress, and it's not even iron! At least she hopes
it's not alloyed with any
L35[01:39:16] <Vaur>
%tonkout
<Vaur>
%tonkoutL36[01:39:17] <MichiBot> Swell! Vaur! You
beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 5 minutes and 57 seconds
(By 3 hours, 4 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L37[01:39:18] <MichiBot> Vaur has tonked
out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006
bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.21604255,
Position #1
L38[01:46:15] <Amanda> Elfi: ofc not, I
know about your allergies!
L39[01:47:22] *
Amanda curls up around Elfi, wonders if these are actual tireds or
fake ones she keeps finding
L40[01:50:46] <Kleadron>
Processed Cheese
<Kleadron>
Processed CheeseL41[01:52:45] *
Amanda decides to just try sleeps. Night nerds
L42[01:53:16] <Kleadron>
damn maybe I should also announce every time I sleep in the
chat
<Kleadron>
damn maybe I should also announce every time I sleep in the
chatL43[01:57:29] <kinkinkijkin> the culture of
this chat allows it
L44[01:57:33] <kinkinkijkin> don't see why
not
L45[01:58:41] <Kleadron>
Something random that I will point out about my username
<Kleadron>
Something random that I will point out about my usernameL46[01:58:47] <Kleadron>
it's perfectly 8 characters long
<Kleadron>
it's perfectly 8 characters longL47[01:59:01] <kinkinkijkin> for example it
probably wouldn't be out of the ordinary if I asked the bot whether
I should drink flat or sharp dr pepper, since I have a flat bottle
and a cold, sharp bottle
L48[01:59:27] <kinkinkijkin> the sharp
would hurt my mouth slightly but the flat tastes lame
L49[01:59:35] <ThePiGuy24> %choose sleep or sleep
deprivation
<ThePiGuy24> %choose sleep or sleep
deprivationL50[01:59:35] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24: I
received a telegram from a long lost relative that only read
"sleep deprivation". Weird.
L51[01:59:42] <ThePiGuy24> damn you
<ThePiGuy24> damn youL52[02:02:57] <ThePiGuy24> fuck michealbot, im
sleeping
<ThePiGuy24> fuck michealbot, im
sleepingL53[02:03:03] <Kleadron>
%choose write a model builder/optimizer for a 3D computercraft
program or procrastinate
<Kleadron>
%choose write a model builder/optimizer for a 3D computercraft
program or procrastinateL54[02:03:03] <MichiBot> Kleadron: Why not
both? Okay fine. "procrastinate".
L55[02:03:17] <Kleadron>
oh ok
<Kleadron>
oh okL56[02:11:16] ⇦
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L58[03:12:23] <Trainfan91> anyone here use wsare?
<Trainfan91> anyone here use wsare?L59[04:23:37] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L60[04:23:38] <MichiBot> Blast!
CompanionCube! You beat Vaur's previous record of <0 (By 2
hours, 44 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L61[04:23:39] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 2 hours, 44 minutes and 21 seconds! CompanionCube
also gained 0.00274 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2.
Need 0.11253155 more points to pass Vaur!
L62[04:43:45] <Kleadron>
I just wasted a few hours trying to make image loading faster and
ended up with this https://tinyurl.com/yg6kgwb7
<Kleadron>
I just wasted a few hours trying to make image loading faster and
ended up with this https://tinyurl.com/yg6kgwb7L63[04:47:06] <Kleadron>
at this point it would make more sense for me to just rip out the
entirety of minecraft's texture loading code and replace it with
something completely different
<Kleadron>
at this point it would make more sense for me to just rip out the
entirety of minecraft's texture loading code and replace it with
something completely differentL64[05:00:10] ⇦
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L72[08:10:48] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL73[08:10:48] <MichiBot> Yippee! Vaur! You
beat CompanionCube's previous record of 2 hours, 44 minutes and 21
seconds (By 1 hour, 2 minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L74[08:10:50] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record
is 3 hours, 47 minutes and 10 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00315
(0.00105 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L88[12:20:22] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL89[12:20:23] <MichiBot> You drink a
mutable jumbonium potion (New!). Vaur turns into a spice wolf until
they see a star fall.
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L91[12:44:01] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/675624547df3bc1b209acd350756f86abf33e4c0d0e7b986050a819de3d9cf78.jpg
L92[12:45:31] <ThePiGuy24> метро ексодус
<ThePiGuy24> метро ексодусL93[12:45:54] <Izaya> only one bug I've
noticed so far
L94[12:45:57] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/62ea9a6ecfa774501ffba1ab42bf3c3e2295c27045612312cf6b9f2b79896b7c.jpg
L95[12:46:21] <t20kdc> That is perfectly
timed text.
L96[12:47:14] <ThePiGuy24> looks fine to me xd
<ThePiGuy24> looks fine to me xdL97[12:47:31] <Izaya> but yeah
L98[12:47:34] <Izaya> fuckin
L99[12:47:59] <Izaya> Proton 6.8-GE runs it
at a very-nearly-solid 60 FPS on high, 6.2 couldn't manage 30
L100[12:48:03] <Izaya> on medium
L101[12:49:43] <ThePiGuy24> now talking about (attempting
to) getting game to run with proton, having trouble getting
snowrunner to run properly, can only get it to run at all on proton
4.11 or 5.0, and only displays anything on 5.0, but cant get much
past the main menu as it crashes whenever i attempt to load into a
campaign
<ThePiGuy24> now talking about (attempting
to) getting game to run with proton, having trouble getting
snowrunner to run properly, can only get it to run at all on proton
4.11 or 5.0, and only displays anything on 5.0, but cant get much
past the main menu as it crashes whenever i attempt to load into a
campaignL102[12:50:21] <ThePiGuy24> havent tried any of the GE
ones yet though
<ThePiGuy24> havent tried any of the GE
ones yet thoughL103[12:50:29] <Izaya> try the GE and TKG
builds
L104[12:50:47] <Izaya> if it's
media-related stuff the GE builds will probably do much
better
L105[12:50:54] <ThePiGuy24> will (attempt to) do
<ThePiGuy24> will (attempt to) doL106[12:51:18] <Izaya> the 6.8 builds
require a clean prefix though
L107[12:54:29] <Izaya> https://pl.valkyrie.world/media/a33a54ce4740a813a94da6bde698515c5303659d4e5ba27ef02b2594c8cde11c.png
L108[12:58:59] <ThePiGuy24> yeah probably dont do
that
<ThePiGuy24> yeah probably dont do
thatL109[12:59:23] <Izaya> forbidden ice
cream
L110[13:01:54] <Amanda> Big Motor doesn't
want you to know this one weird trick for free ice cream!
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L117[14:03:23] <Forecaster> %tonkout
<Forecaster> %tonkoutL118[14:03:24] <MichiBot> Yeah!
Forecaster! You beat Vaur's previous record of 3 hours, 47
minutes and 10 seconds (By 2 hours, 5 minutes and 24 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L119[14:03:25] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk
points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 0.9380407. Position #3 Need
0.1654703 more points to pass CompanionCube!
L120[14:04:49] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL121[14:04:50] <MichiBot> You drink a
cloudy pussplum potion (New!). The bottle turns into a mithril
trident.
L122[14:05:29] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24, Skye:
https://files.catbox.moe/v4e2pl.jpg
L123[14:05:59] <ThePiGuy24> :communism:
<ThePiGuy24> :communism:L124[14:07:10] <SnailDOS>
hello
<SnailDOS>
helloL125[14:07:23] <Izaya> greetings
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L128[14:19:24] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL129[14:19:24] <MichiBot> You drink a
goopy copper potion (New!). As Vaur drinks the potion they become
the target of a wad of llama spit! They successfully evaded it with
a 19 vs DC 12!
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L132[14:54:24] <Amanda> yaaay,I
brute-force fixed my gitweb!
L134[15:09:12] <MichiBot> Elite
Dangerous: Odyssey | Launch Trailer | length: 2m |
Likes: 2,234 Dislikes: 51 Views: 18,224 | by Elite
Dangerous | Published On 18/5/2021
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L136[15:32:39] <Trainfan91> @payonel any way to make psh
screen updates faster?
<Trainfan91> @payonel any way to make psh
screen updates faster?L137[16:09:39]
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L138[16:09:52] <payonel>
@Trainfan91 gpu buffers can help
<payonel>
@Trainfan91 gpu buffers can helpL139[16:10:25] <payonel>
but there is definitely a limit
<payonel>
but there is definitely a limitL140[16:11:06] <payonel>
if we remove the limits, your game basically stops running because
oc just owns the bandwidth
<payonel>
if we remove the limits, your game basically stops running because
oc just owns the bandwidthL141[17:03:39] <Kristopher38> gpu owns the bandwidth =
good
<Kristopher38> gpu owns the bandwidth =
goodL142[17:03:52] <Kristopher38> oc owns the bandwidth =
good [Edited]
<Kristopher38> oc owns the bandwidth =
good [Edited]L143[17:17:36] <Amanda> I think Trainfan
meant display update lag caused by networking?
L144[17:17:39] <Ariri> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/epic-and-apple-are-now-fighting-over-a-naked-banana/ar-BB1gAum0
lmfao
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L146[17:37:11] <payonel>
@Trainfan91 this might NOT be what you need. you didn't really
explain your question much. but this is the "gpu buffer"
feature i was referring to
<payonel>
@Trainfan91 this might NOT be what you need. you didn't really
explain your question much. but this is the "gpu buffer"
feature i was referring toL148[17:48:06] <Vaur>
%tonk
<Vaur>
%tonkL149[17:48:06] <MichiBot> Sard! Vaur! You
beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 44 minutes
and 42 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L150[17:48:07] <MichiBot> Vaur's new
record is 3 hours, 44 minutes and 42 seconds! Vaur also gained
0.00375 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L152[17:48:50] <MichiBot> Elite
Dangerous: Odyssey | Launch Trailer | length: 2m |
Likes: 3,595 Dislikes: 91 Views: 29,480 | by Elite
Dangerous | Published On 18/5/2021
L153[17:48:50] <Vaur> I
dont know ... I'm not really excited for odyssey
<Vaur> I
dont know ... I'm not really excited for odysseyL154[18:03:12] <Trainfan91> @payonel when i use you
"PSH" program, the screen draw routine is slow; it takes
about 3 seconds for the splash to draw; any way to make this
faster?
<Trainfan91> @payonel when i use you
"PSH" program, the screen draw routine is slow; it takes
about 3 seconds for the splash to draw; any way to make this
faster?L155[18:04:13] <Trainfan91> and amanda is on point with
what i meant...
<Trainfan91> and amanda is on point with
what i meant...L156[18:07:43] <payonel>
@Trainfan91 make it faster? sure, rewrite psh 🙂 i dont remember
anymore what type of buffering i do. irl tty stdout is buffered.
openos does a tiny bit of buffering i think ... it's been so
long
<payonel>
@Trainfan91 make it faster? sure, rewrite psh 🙂 i dont remember
anymore what type of buffering i do. irl tty stdout is buffered.
openos does a tiny bit of buffering i think ... it's been so
longL157[18:08:07] <payonel>
anyways, every actual flush to stdout becomes a network action over
psh
<payonel>
anyways, every actual flush to stdout becomes a network action over
pshL158[18:08:31] <payonel>
basically, you are mimicing remote shell in OC in minecraft. a bit
of delayed screen writes should completely expected
<payonel>
basically, you are mimicing remote shell in OC in minecraft. a bit
of delayed screen writes should completely expectedL159[18:09:35] <payonel>
psh is the 3rd or 4th revision of that idea, and definitely the
most performant and reasonable in implementation. the improvements
i wanted to make for psh beyond where it is at started to push
against some of the non-linuxy details of openos
<payonel>
psh is the 3rd or 4th revision of that idea, and definitely the
most performant and reasonable in implementation. the improvements
i wanted to make for psh beyond where it is at started to push
against some of the non-linuxy details of openosL160[18:11:22] <payonel>
basically, you are mimicing remote shell in OC in minecraft. a bit
of delayed screen writes should be completely expected
[Edited]
<payonel>
basically, you are mimicing remote shell in OC in minecraft. a bit
of delayed screen writes should be completely expected
[Edited]L161[18:12:34] <Kristopher38> @payonel out of curiosity -
I assume this works on screenless machines, so it's based on some
pseudotty activity, not gpu calls?
<Kristopher38> @payonel out of curiosity -
I assume this works on screenless machines, so it's based on some
pseudotty activity, not gpu calls?L162[18:13:22] <payonel>
@Kristopher38 probably..? i don't recall. that is something i
definitely cared about when i was working on psh and its many
revisions
<payonel>
@Kristopher38 probably..? i don't recall. that is something i
definitely cared about when i was working on psh and its many
revisionsL163[18:13:32] <payonel>
someone should try it 🙂
<payonel>
someone should try it 🙂L164[18:14:05] <Kristopher38> the "probably"
bit refers to working on screenless machines or caring about gpu
calls?
<Kristopher38> the "probably"
bit refers to working on screenless machines or caring about gpu
calls?L165[18:14:43] <payonel>
because i dont remember how complete that low level detail of the
psh stack is implemented
<payonel>
because i dont remember how complete that low level detail of the
psh stack is implementedL166[18:15:53] <payonel>
an earlier version of psh was doing ridiculous gpu intercept
calls
<payonel>
an earlier version of psh was doing ridiculous gpu intercept
callsL167[18:16:05] <payonel>
and other types of pseudo component actions
<payonel>
and other types of pseudo component actionsL168[18:16:29] <payonel>
it was a mess, but done that way because the lower level
"tty" things in openos were completely hard coded
<payonel>
it was a mess, but done that way because the lower level
"tty" things in openos were completely hard codedL169[18:16:31] <Kristopher38> I wonder if you could do
some sort of remote shell to microcontrollers or drones, and have
gpu emulation layer that would basically keep the gpu state in
memory and sync with the controlling computer
<Kristopher38> I wonder if you could do
some sort of remote shell to microcontrollers or drones, and have
gpu emulation layer that would basically keep the gpu state in
memory and sync with the controlling computerL170[18:16:42] <payonel>
so i spent a few months redoing all of the openos "tty"
code to be an actual tty library
<payonel>
so i spent a few months redoing all of the openos "tty"
code to be an actual tty libraryL171[18:17:11] <Kristopher38> well the question isn't if
I can but how ;)
<Kristopher38> well the question isn't if
I can but how ;)L172[18:17:20] <payonel>
tried to separate all the assumed devices and bindings, and build
the system based on logical (and poissbly null) connections
<payonel>
tried to separate all the assumed devices and bindings, and build
the system based on logical (and poissbly null) connectionsL173[18:17:58] <payonel>
how? well if i did actually get that part done correctly, and i
just can't remember right now if i did
<payonel>
how? well if i did actually get that part done correctly, and i
just can't remember right now if i didL174[18:18:32] <payonel>
then all you have to do is install a `modem` (i.e. wireless card)
in your uC or drone, install pshd, run it, and you can remote
connect
<payonel>
then all you have to do is install a `modem` (i.e. wireless card)
in your uC or drone, install pshd, run it, and you can remote
connectL175[18:18:35] <payonel>
HOWEVVER
<payonel>
HOWEVVERL176[18:18:49] <payonel>
(/me eyes the two Vs with contempt)
<payonel>
(/me eyes the two Vs with contempt)L177[18:18:52] <payonel>
um, HOWEVER
<payonel>
um, HOWEVERL178[18:19:04] <payonel>
you'll never get pshd to run on a uC or drone 🙂
<payonel>
you'll never get pshd to run on a uC or drone 🙂L179[18:19:48] <payonel>
1. pshd comes with a few libraries, including a psh/socket.lua
thing i thinkg
<payonel>
1. pshd comes with a few libraries, including a psh/socket.lua
thing i thinkgL180[18:19:48] <payonel>
2. pshd uses threads
<payonel>
2. pshd uses threadsL181[18:19:51] <payonel>
3. threads use events
<payonel>
3. threads use eventsL182[18:19:57] <payonel>
4. events and threads come with openos
<payonel>
4. events and threads come with openosL183[18:20:13] <payonel>
5. openos on a drone/uC? nope
<payonel>
5. openos on a drone/uC? nopeL184[18:20:59] <Kristopher38> yeah I figured, that's why
I was thinking of a more dumbed-down solution
<Kristopher38> yeah I figured, that's why
I was thinking of a more dumbed-down solutionL185[18:21:16] <payonel> i
explored for a bit building a virtual fs in eeprom code, to mount
the tmpfs, then run a type of scp (remote copy) from a fixed
network endpoint, to basically network boot a drone/uC into
openos
<payonel> i
explored for a bit building a virtual fs in eeprom code, to mount
the tmpfs, then run a type of scp (remote copy) from a fixed
network endpoint, to basically network boot a drone/uC into
openosL186[18:21:36] <payonel>
the limit came to tmpfs size
<payonel>
the limit came to tmpfs sizeL187[18:21:48] <payonel>
iirc
<payonel>
iircL188[18:22:03] <payonel>
sure, you could trim openos down to bare bones just for this
purpose
<payonel>
sure, you could trim openos down to bare bones just for this
purposeL189[18:22:04] <Kristopher38> network booting has been
done by some people, but iirc they were just loading a script into
memory
<Kristopher38> network booting has been
done by some people, but iirc they were just loading a script into
memoryL190[18:22:08] <payonel>
but again, iirc, it wasn't enough
<payonel>
but again, iirc, it wasn't enoughL191[18:22:21] <payonel>
yeah. network boot is fun and obviously doable
<payonel>
yeah. network boot is fun and obviously doableL192[18:22:52] <payonel>
but tmpfs+copy openos is a bit more work, but i believe would be
possible. it was the limits of the tmpfs that kept me...i
think...from reaching the goal
<payonel>
but tmpfs+copy openos is a bit more work, but i believe would be
possible. it was the limits of the tmpfs that kept me...i
think...from reaching the goalL193[18:23:40] <payonel>
maybe we should add ramfs support /me ponders
<payonel>
maybe we should add ramfs support /me pondersL194[18:24:16] <Kristopher38> I mean, lua tables are kind
of ramfs
<Kristopher38> I mean, lua tables are kind
of ramfsL195[18:24:21]
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L196[18:24:25] <payonel>
haha, true!
<payonel>
haha, true!L197[18:24:31] <Kristopher38> oh, you know what cool
thing I found
<Kristopher38> oh, you know what cool
thing I foundL198[18:24:39] <payonel>
so a virtual fs in a table, and mount it
<payonel>
so a virtual fs in a table, and mount itL199[18:24:45] <payonel> i
should do this
<payonel> i
should do thisL200[18:24:49] <payonel>
why have i not done this
<payonel>
why have i not done thisL201[18:24:51] <payonel> i
think others have
<payonel> i
think others haveL202[18:25:09] <payonel>
HA!
<payonel>
HA!L203[18:25:11] <payonel>
actually i did
<payonel>
actually i didL204[18:25:26] <payonel>
openos /dev is exactly that
<payonel>
openos /dev is exactly thatL205[18:25:42] ⇦
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L206[18:25:46] <Kristopher38> when loading strings into
memory and measuring the memory usage, one char occupies 0.5
byte
<Kristopher38> when loading strings into
memory and measuring the memory usage, one char occupies 0.5
byteL207[18:25:47] <payonel>
well crap, now i'm going to go back to network boot openos into a
virtual filesystem
<payonel>
well crap, now i'm going to go back to network boot openos into a
virtual filesystemL208[18:26:04] <payonel>
@Kristopher38 it's complicated 🙂
<payonel>
@Kristopher38 it's complicated 🙂L209[18:26:23] <Kristopher38> oh so you already know
about this
<Kristopher38> oh so you already know
about thisL210[18:26:32] <payonel>
lua's core memory measurements are exact. but we also use JNLua
which is not
<payonel>
lua's core memory measurements are exact. but we also use JNLua
which is notL211[18:26:35] <payonel>
yeah
<payonel>
yeahL212[18:27:02] <Kristopher38> but JNLua is used only when
the native libs can't be used, right?
<Kristopher38> but JNLua is used only when
the native libs can't be used, right?L213[18:27:29] <payonel>
right. but the alternative is even worse
<payonel>
right. but the alternative is even worseL214[18:27:37] <payonel>
anyways, it's fine 🙂
<payonel>
anyways, it's fine 🙂L215[18:28:01] <Kristopher38> I mean, I was running those
tests with native libs, so the measurements should be exact
<Kristopher38> I mean, I was running those
tests with native libs, so the measurements should be exactL216[18:28:09] <payonel>
no
<payonel>
noL217[18:28:12] <payonel>
JNLua
<payonel>
JNLuaL218[18:28:21] <Kristopher38> okay so what is JNLua
exactly
<Kristopher38> okay so what is JNLua
exactlyL219[18:28:24] <payonel>
the native libs are glued into java via jnlua
<payonel>
the native libs are glued into java via jnluaL220[18:28:31] <Kristopher38> aaah that makes more
sense
<Kristopher38> aaah that makes more
senseL221[18:28:53] <Kristopher38> alright
<Kristopher38> alrightL222[18:30:00] <payonel>
(btw, i misread your earlier comment)
<payonel>
(btw, i misread your earlier comment)L223[18:30:09] <payonel>
(which you probably figured out by now)
<payonel>
(which you probably figured out by now)L224[18:30:41] <payonel>
when natives are not available, the fallback is LuaJ
<payonel>
when natives are not available, the fallback is LuaJL225[18:31:16] <payonel>
native == lua binary glued into java with JNLua
<payonel>
native == lua binary glued into java with JNLuaL226[18:31:16] <payonel>
else == LuaJ, an implementation of the lua engine in Java
<payonel>
else == LuaJ, an implementation of the lua engine in JavaL227[18:31:20] <Kristopher38> ah right, I mistook JNLua
and LuaJ
<Kristopher38> ah right, I mistook JNLua
and LuaJL228[18:31:26] <Kristopher38> ah right, I mistook JNLua
for LuaJ [Edited]
<Kristopher38> ah right, I mistook JNLua
for LuaJ [Edited]L229[18:33:13]
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L230[18:33:42] <Kristopher38> anyway, i just found it
peculiar, as it's possible to magically compress data size in
memory, one table element takes up 8 bytes (disregarding 1 byte for
tag), but if i convert it to a string with string.pack, it now
takes up 4 bytes
<Kristopher38> anyway, i just found it
peculiar, as it's possible to magically compress data size in
memory, one table element takes up 8 bytes (disregarding 1 byte for
tag), but if i convert it to a string with string.pack, it now
takes up 4 bytesL231[18:34:58] <payonel>
if you let me pretend (for the fun of the immersion perspective)
you're looking at this wrong
<payonel>
if you let me pretend (for the fun of the immersion perspective)
you're looking at this wrongL232[18:35:44] <payonel>
the processor of your environment is literally a lua instruction
architecture
<payonel>
the processor of your environment is literally a lua instruction
architectureL233[18:35:53] <ThePiGuy24> Никита
<ThePiGuy24> НикитаL234[18:35:57] <ThePiGuy24> xd
<ThePiGuy24> xdL235[18:36:44] <payonel> a
table and its key pairs require a larger segment of memory for
lookups. perhaps the processor spec for these lua "cpus"
were a bit inefficient
<payonel> a
table and its key pairs require a larger segment of memory for
lookups. perhaps the processor spec for these lua "cpus"
were a bit inefficientL236[18:37:07] <payonel> a
single string value directly in memory however, was designed in the
spec more efficiently, and takes less spac
<payonel> a
single string value directly in memory however, was designed in the
spec more efficiently, and takes less spacL237[18:37:21] <payonel>
space*
<payonel>
space*L238[18:38:00] <payonel>
how can a char fit into half a byte? well, maybe a "byte"
is actually a word, and maybe a word (in this hypothetical lua
arch) is actually 16 bits (let's say 2 bytes)
<payonel>
how can a char fit into half a byte? well, maybe a "byte"
is actually a word, and maybe a word (in this hypothetical lua
arch) is actually 16 bits (let's say 2 bytes)L239[18:38:29] <payonel>
maybe for "standard" mapped data, each char of data needs
a full word, but a string can be serially stored in maximize the
char-to-word ratio
<payonel>
maybe for "standard" mapped data, each char of data needs
a full word, but a string can be serially stored in maximize the
char-to-word ratioL240[18:41:25] <Kristopher38> that's an elaborate way of
saying that it's a feature :P
<Kristopher38> that's an elaborate way of
saying that it's a feature :PL241[18:41:33] <payonel>
mmhmm
<payonel>
mmhmmL242[18:41:35]
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L243[18:42:17] <Kristopher38> I mean, it's alright,
there's a penalty for storing data as strings
<Kristopher38> I mean, it's alright,
there's a penalty for storing data as stringsL244[18:42:37] <Kristopher38> since to use it in a
meaningful way you have to string.unpack it
<Kristopher38> since to use it in a
meaningful way you have to string.unpack itL245[18:42:54] <Kristopher38> space-time tradeoff
<Kristopher38> space-time tradeoffL246[18:55:59] <Saghetti>
opengl is slightly less scary now
<Saghetti>
opengl is slightly less scary nowL247[18:56:15] <Saghetti>
apparently learning about how tf matrix transformations actually
worked was really useful
<Saghetti>
apparently learning about how tf matrix transformations actually
worked was really usefulL248[18:56:19] <Saghetti>
who could've guessed
<Saghetti>
who could've guessedL249[18:56:39] <Saghetti>
works*
<Saghetti>
works*L250[18:58:52] <Kristopher38> feels like you either learn
this stuff at uni, or learn it by messing with 3d graphics
<Kristopher38> feels like you either learn
this stuff at uni, or learn it by messing with 3d graphicsL251[18:59:14] <Kristopher38> or if you a maths
nerd
<Kristopher38> or if you a maths
nerdL252[19:00:59] <Saghetti>
imagine being at uni
<Saghetti>
imagine being at uniL253[19:01:30] <Kristopher38> I don't have to imagine
:^)
<Kristopher38> I don't have to imagine
:^)L254[19:24:25] <Trainfan91> @payonel can i bypass the
shell in psh and launch into a lua script instead?
<Trainfan91> @payonel can i bypass the
shell in psh and launch into a lua script instead?L255[19:24:51] <payonel>
yeah, like ssh
<payonel>
yeah, like sshL256[19:24:56] <payonel>
`psh -f cmdtorun`
<payonel>
`psh -f cmdtorun`L257[19:29:55]
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L260[19:32:42] <Saghetti>
i'm doing it
<Saghetti>
i'm doing itL261[19:32:45] <Saghetti>
i'm webgling
<Saghetti>
i'm webglingL262[19:33:02] <Saghetti>
apparently i had the parameters for lookAt swapped
<Saghetti>
apparently i had the parameters for lookAt swappedL263[19:33:18] <Saghetti>
i was looking at 4,3,3 and located at 0,0,0
<Saghetti>
i was looking at 4,3,3 and located at 0,0,0L264[19:33:28] <Saghetti>
instead of looking at 0,0,0 and located at 4,3,3
<Saghetti>
instead of looking at 0,0,0 and located at 4,3,3L266[20:07:07] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L267[20:07:08] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Vaur's record of 3 hours,
44 minutes and 42 seconds this time. 2 hours, 19 minutes and 1
second were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 25 minutes and 40
seconds!
L268[20:37:50] <Kleadron>
>Saghetti: i'm webgling
<Kleadron>
>Saghetti: i'm webglingL269[20:37:50] <Kleadron>
oh god
<Kleadron>
oh godL270[20:44:54] <Amanda> dequbed: Halp. I
need this to live longer, but I don't know how to force it!
https://git.camnet.site/gitweb/?p=amandac/rust/cgit-gitolite-auth-filter.git;a=blob;f=src/main.rs;h=2d58af516ba230fd329df21c7648fb1f0ba0bcb4;hb=HEAD#l51
L271[20:50:43] <Hawk777> buff (well
technically buff.clone, but that doesn’t help, and actually makes
the problem worse) is going to have to outlive htpasswd. At the
very least, you will have to keep buff in Config.
L272[20:52:28] <Hawk777> I am not certain
how one resolves the almost-but-not-exactly self-referentiality
that comes from doing that.
L273[20:53:29] <Hawk777> It’s not quite
self-referential because htpasswd doesn’t actually point into the
inside of buff, it only points into the inside of the heap
allocation that buff manages, so *moving* buff doesn’t invalidate
such references as it would do if the references pointed into buff
itself.
L274[21:05:50] <Hawk777> If you could move
buff outside that function and hold it at a higher level, that
would make things much easier, but it would obviously not be as
ideal architecturally.
L275[21:07:24] <Trainfan91> is it possible to use
computer as chunkloader?
<Trainfan91> is it possible to use
computer as chunkloader?L276[21:09:12] <Hawk777> https://ocdoc.cil.li/item:chunkloader_upgrade
says the upgrade is for robots and drones only; not sure whether
they would also work on computers.
L277[22:03:04] <Ariri>
Izaya: gotcha b*tch
<Ariri>
Izaya: gotcha b*tchL279[22:07:04] <Amanda> Hawk777: putting
it in the struct doesn't seem to have helped, it's now unhappy that
I'm borrowing it for the ::load call
L280[22:09:53] <Hawk777> Yes, the problem
with putting it in the struct is that you’re returning the struct,
which moves the struct (and therefore the String) while holding a
reference. But I figured maybe you could look for writeups or
articles about how people do self-referential data structures in
Rust for inspiration.
L281[22:10:11] <Amanda> ah
L282[22:10:23] <Amanda> Well, I'm out of
code spoons for now, so I'll try and figure it out later
L283[22:10:42] <Amanda> Currently doing
the "new yubikey" dance, updading random shit
L284[22:10:48] <Hawk777> Moving the String
out of your load function and passing it as a parameter would also
solve the problem, while making it the caller’s problem
instead.
L285[22:11:20] <Vaur>
%sip
<Vaur>
%sipL286[22:11:21] <MichiBot> You drink a
solid electrum potion (New!). Vaur's favourite shirt is suddenly on
fire.
L287[22:11:43] <Hawk777> If this is a
function that’s only called once or twice for the lifetime of the
program, the really nasty hacky solution would be to just leak the
string instead, but as the name suggests, that creates a memory
leak because it’s never freed. That would be really bad if it’s
called repeatedly, but maybe fine if it’s genuinely only used a
small fixed number of times in the process.
L288[22:16:24] <Vampyre> *cough* bad
coding practices *cough*
L289[22:27:04] <Hawk777> In my defense I
*did* explicitly say it’s a nasty hacky solution.
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L294[22:48:04] <Ocawesome101> TIL that in the '50s
scientists froze rodents (solid) and reanimated them using
microwaves
<Ocawesome101> TIL that in the '50s
scientists froze rodents (solid) and reanimated them using
microwavesL295[22:49:08] <ThePiGuy24> and you just watched a tom
scott video :p
<ThePiGuy24> and you just watched a tom
scott video :pL296[22:49:55] <Izaya> next week: https://files.catbox.moe/cz1ms6.jpg
L297[22:50:09] <Izaya> also morning
nerds
L298[22:52:34] <Izaya> Ariri: ???
L299[22:53:31] <Izaya> https://img.booru.org/lefty//images/15/1bbe0948a456874aa2631de2e6f1838ca24625cf.gif
L300[22:53:50] <Izaya> firewire card is
arriving today
L301[22:53:52] <Izaya> v exciting
L302[22:54:21] <ThePiGuy24> xd
<ThePiGuy24> xdL303[22:55:21] <Kleadron>
what's this fascination with the USSR
<Kleadron>
what's this fascination with the USSRL304[22:55:56]
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L305[22:56:00] <ThePiGuy24> :dyatlov:
<ThePiGuy24> :dyatlov:L306[22:56:31] <Izaya> semiphysical
shitposting
L307[22:56:33] <Ariri>
Izaya: the image I sent
<Ariri>
Izaya: the image I sentL308[22:56:40] <Izaya> yes
L309[22:56:42] <Izaya> ???
L310[22:57:13] <Ariri> i
don't see what there is to be "???" about
<Ariri> i
don't see what there is to be "???" aboutL311[22:57:27] <Izaya> usually tsundere
doesnt' last until that late in the relationship
L312[22:58:11] <Ariri>
unless that's what they are in whatever show they're from, i don't
see why they're necessarily a tsundere
<Ariri>
unless that's what they are in whatever show they're from, i don't
see why they're necessarily a tsundereL313[22:58:26] <Ariri> or
why it particularly matters here
<Ariri> or
why it particularly matters hereL314[23:08:50] <Izaya> I put up more
motivational posters https://social.shadowkat.net/media/be4dcb9c4a0b18422fcbf8f6cf1b3ca788e6861156873533814c5709e2b6276b.jpg
https://social.shadowkat.net/media/6d7280d200435c79ae619579ddb45bbd4a8a4926e833c4447db8e54490478ebd.jpg
L315[23:13:40] <Bob> now
this is a base
<Bob> now
this is a baseL316[23:14:32] <ThePiGuy24> nice
<ThePiGuy24> niceL317[23:15:10] <CompanionCube> also if
you're doing communist propaganda it's not like there's any
particularly good generic replacement
L318[23:16:07] <ThePiGuy24> i especially approve of the
one with the mosin
<ThePiGuy24> i especially approve of the
one with the mosinL319[23:17:15] <ThePiGuy24> actually the 2nd one might
also have mosins in it, cant quite tell from the silhouettes
<ThePiGuy24> actually the 2nd one might
also have mosins in it, cant quite tell from the silhouettesL320[23:17:36] <Izaya> seems likely but I
don't really know guns https://files.catbox.moe/0bwntu.png
L321[23:17:37] *
CompanionCube wonders if you could repurpose the SPD's three-arrows
election poster, though that's very much not communist owing to the
contemporary KPD
L322[23:18:07] <ThePiGuy24> yeah i think theyre
mosins
<ThePiGuy24> yeah i think theyre
mosinsL324[23:23:48] <ThePiGuy24> not OC, instant ban
<ThePiGuy24> not OC, instant banL325[23:24:12] <Kleadron>
there's a small chance of me exploring an OC port of it
<Kleadron>
there's a small chance of me exploring an OC port of itL326[23:24:34]
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L327[23:24:50] <ThePiGuy24> brb finding my 3d renderer
for OC ~~so i can flex because help why do i keep doing
this~~
<ThePiGuy24> brb finding my 3d renderer
for OC ~~so i can flex because help why do i keep doing
this~~L328[23:24:56] <CompanionCube>
%hello
L329[23:24:57] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome
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L330[23:25:05] <Mario> SUS
L331[23:25:23] <Kleadron>
>ThePiGuy24: brb finding my 3d renderer for OC ~~so i …
<Kleadron>
>ThePiGuy24: brb finding my 3d renderer for OC ~~so i …L332[23:25:23] <Kleadron>
I'm simply motivating you =]
<Kleadron>
I'm simply motivating you =]L333[23:25:25] <Izaya> what's
suspicious?
L334[23:25:32] <Mario> YOU
L335[23:25:37] <Mario> red sus
L336[23:25:52] <Izaya> always preferred
blue
L337[23:25:53] <Kleadron>
hi mr 14 year old
<Kleadron>
hi mr 14 year oldL338[23:25:58] <ThePiGuy24> ohno, theyre cringe
<ThePiGuy24> ohno, theyre cringeL339[23:26:20] <Kleadron>
Mario, there might be a massive chance that YOU are the sussy
baka
<Kleadron>
Mario, there might be a massive chance that YOU are the sussy
bakaL340[23:26:35] <Mario> y
L341[23:26:40] <ThePiGuy24> ohno you are cringe too
<ThePiGuy24> ohno you are cringe tooL342[23:26:44] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24: gonna
hang this one up in the apartment complex once I get around to
building it https://files.catbox.moe/mycfiq.jpg
L343[23:26:52] <ThePiGuy24> nice xd
<ThePiGuy24> nice xdL344[23:26:58] <Mario> Sussy
L345[23:27:03] <ThePiGuy24> could do with more gay
tho
<ThePiGuy24> could do with more gay
thoL346[23:27:07] <Kleadron>
k
<Kleadron>
kL347[23:27:22] <Teris> Is
that the same guy who got banned?
<Teris> Is
that the same guy who got banned?L348[23:27:27] <Izaya> how's this?
https://files.catbox.moe/2croc0.jpg
L349[23:27:30] <Amanda> probably
L350[23:27:55] <ThePiGuy24> yeah thats alright ;p
<ThePiGuy24> yeah thats alright ;pL351[23:27:56] <Mario> Will my Genitals
Survive the Fall off a cilf
L352[23:28:09] <Kleadron>
Izaya: you should mount the image of the 3D rendered =] somewhere,
completely out of place compared to everything else
<Kleadron>
Izaya: you should mount the image of the 3D rendered =] somewhere,
completely out of place compared to everything elseL353[23:28:25] <Amanda> in the mob
farm!
L354[23:28:48] <Izaya> Kleadron: art
gallery containing nothing but screenshots of LSD Dream Emulator
and out-of-context renders
L355[23:28:59] <Kleadron>
lol
<Kleadron>
lolL356[23:29:28] <ThePiGuy24> let me see if i can find some
of that gay interracial communist propaganda that my brother sent
me
<ThePiGuy24> let me see if i can find some
of that gay interracial communist propaganda that my brother sent
meL357[23:29:38] <Kleadron>
oh
<Kleadron>
ohL358[23:29:42] <Izaya> I know the one you
mean
L359[23:29:55] <Izaya> alas, I keep it in
my unsorted folder
L361[23:31:10] <Izaya> and they get an
orchard and stuff
L362[23:31:21] *
Amanda sorts Izaya by random
L364[23:31:34] <ThePiGuy24> theres the one i was looking
for
<ThePiGuy24> theres the one i was looking
forL365[23:31:48] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
imagine the impact on them of the sino-soviet split
L366[23:31:55] <Izaya> https://files.catbox.moe/0fmbqf.jpg
L367[23:32:07] <ThePiGuy24> ah yes
<ThePiGuy24> ah yesL368[23:32:08] <Izaya> CompanionCube: more
literal forbidden love than usual
L369[23:32:24] <Kleadron>
hold on I gotta 3D render the letter K
<Kleadron>
hold on I gotta 3D render the letter KL370[23:32:52] <Kleadron>
the fucking emulator just hung
<Kleadron>
the fucking emulator just hungL371[23:32:57] <Kleadron>
nevermind then
<Kleadron>
nevermind thenL372[23:33:07] <CompanionCube> Izaya: inb4
'let's elope to the DPRK'
L373[23:33:21] <CompanionCube> which iirc
would be less insane then vs now
L374[23:33:38] <CompanionCube> don't think
the economic boom of the south had happened yet
L375[23:34:46] <Izaya> A shame I can't see
any evidence of OPF having OC support
L376[23:34:52] <Izaya> it'd be neat to
have these rotate pictures over time
L377[23:35:10] <ThePiGuy24> just display the image on a
screen ;p
<ThePiGuy24> just display the image on a
screen ;pL378[23:35:44] <CompanionCube> shame the
kaiserreich csa propaganda probably wouldn't fit
L379[23:36:40] ⇦
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L380[23:38:35] <CompanionCube> https://i.redd.it/vkptsh9mopnz.png is a particular
favourite
L381[23:39:15] <Izaya> I like that but the
state religion is Haruhiism
L382[23:39:21] <ThePiGuy24> yes for the anarchy, no for
the religion
<ThePiGuy24> yes for the anarchy, no for
the religionL383[23:39:48] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24: just
for you https://files.catbox.moe/wyrsiw.jpg
L384[23:40:12] <ThePiGuy24> nice, more mosin
<ThePiGuy24> nice, more mosinL385[23:40:53] <CompanionCube> (though
themantically https://i.redd.it/51uf6mwant651.jpg
would probably be more fitting without the explicit reference to
america)
L386[23:41:33] <Izaya> that's breddy
gud
L387[23:41:41] <ThePiGuy24> xd nice i think thats a
thompson
<ThePiGuy24> xd nice i think thats a
thompsonL388[23:42:18] <CompanionCube> original's
probably maoist, let me see...
L389[23:42:30] <ThePiGuy24> and i approve of the
cat
<ThePiGuy24> and i approve of the
catL390[23:43:08] <Ocawesome101> that i did,
@ThePiGuy24
<Ocawesome101> that i did,
@ThePiGuy24L391[23:50:22] <CompanionCube> found it:
https://i.insider.com/509956956bb3f73d6e00000d?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp
L392[23:50:39] <CompanionCube> date is
1971