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L1[00:00:05] <Amanda> Just run them outside the ship
L2[00:00:30] <Amanda> Unless they're not air tight, I guess
L3[00:00:35] <At​hos> speakers yes, but not the cables, i need cables weaving in and out off airlocks
L4[00:00:56] <Amanda> Tape drive in a wall
L5[00:01:16] <Amanda> All-outside wires
L6[00:02:45] <Amanda> Won't be pretty,
L7[00:03:01] <Amanda> Or you can have a server rack outside the ship and remote--of
L8[00:03:04] <Amanda> Mfu
L9[00:03:37] <Amanda> Three block range, but that's plenty for connecting to things on the other side of a wall
L10[00:03:53] <Amanda> Then just have the tape drive outside
L11[00:04:21] <At​hos> their range is what is stopping me, speakers have an short audio range , which means i have to puncture through air right spaces in order to place a bunch (i can use OC Conduits from Enderio which have facades which are airtight,so i can carry pc signals, but not audio)
L12[00:04:35] <Izaya> hung up a motivational poster https://social.shadowkat.net/xmpp/upload/LmiSOUTatW-31KDr/2021-05-17_10.03.47.png
L13[00:05:05] <At​hos> i can put a speaker outside the bio-spheres but because of their low volume they really cant be heard than unless i create a massive wall of them :(
L14[00:05:11] <ThePi​Guy24> Izaya: good, skye needs to see
L15[00:05:56] <Amanda> Ussr-tan,?
L16[00:06:00] <Izaya> makes me wanna rip the art from those posters in MGSV
L17[00:06:11] <Izaya> Amanda: I serve the Soviet Yunyun
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L19[00:07:31] <Amanda> Also can't tell if that's a flesh colored top of if her tits are half-out
L20[00:07:52] <Izaya> just konosuba character design
L21[00:09:00] <Klea​dron> lol wtf
L22[00:10:28] <Izaya> I also have stuff like this which confuses me greatly https://files.catbox.moe/dj6lfy.jpg
L23[00:11:47] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24: these online picture frames may represent somewhat of a problem
L24[00:11:51] <Izaya> I can shitpost externally now
L25[00:12:07] <ThePi​Guy24> externally?
L26[00:12:21] <Izaya> https://files.catbox.moe/n9gn6r.jpg
L27[00:12:43] <ThePi​Guy24> that is cursed
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L29[00:19:20] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: what server is this lmao
L30[00:19:52] <ThePi​Guy24> ascent frozen hell i beliv
L31[00:19:53] <ThePi​Guy24> ascent frozen hell i belive [Edited]
L32[00:19:57] <Izaya> ^
L33[00:20:10] <bad at​ vijya> ???
L34[00:21:04] <ThePi​Guy24> a modpack set up for the loiste community
L35[00:21:08] <bad at​ vijya> ah
L36[00:21:48] <Izaya> I'm mostly here because Skye invited me and it's always good, mildly cancerous fun
L37[00:22:11] <ThePi​Guy24> ah yes
L38[00:22:40] <ThePi​Guy24> and you are also the only citizen of DF that actually does anything ;p
L39[00:22:50] <Skye> Exams are tough
L40[00:23:35] <ThePi​Guy24> also Izaya: just take over DF from skye as you will be better leader xd
L41[00:23:51] <Skye> DF has no leader
L42[00:23:56] <Skye> Have you read the constitution
L43[00:24:03] <ThePi​Guy24> it does now
L44[00:24:10] <ThePi​Guy24> Izaya is new leader of DF
L45[00:24:15] <Skye> You'd need a vote for it
L46[00:24:21] <ThePi​Guy24> :dontcaremate:
L47[00:24:30] <Klea​dron> what is DF
L48[00:24:35] <Izaya> https://cdn.donmai.us/original/2d/27/__paz_ortega_andrade_metal_gear_and_1_more_drawn_by_mino_tarou__2d2712093784cf06538586a636bd4221.jpg
L49[00:24:38] <ThePi​Guy24> Democratic Federation
L50[00:24:41] <Klea​dron> oh
L51[00:24:43] <Skye> Izaya, help... @ThePiGuy24 is bulling me
L52[00:25:20] <Izaya> Skye: I mean, I was planning to institute mild socialism, vote or not
L53[00:25:33] <Klea​dron> time to unleash the army of stealth turtles to snap everyone's ankles
L54[00:25:44] <Izaya> Which is probably good because you don't have a house or anything.
L55[00:25:45] <Skye> Can it be done within the bounds of the existing laws?
L56[00:25:56] <Izaya> The laws specify nothing about economic systems.
L57[00:27:06] <Skye> Exaxrly
L58[00:28:00] <Izaya> Actually, the laws don't specify much of anything.
L59[00:28:29] <Klea​dron> welcome to the oldest modded anarchy server in minecraft
L60[00:28:51] <Izaya> hm actually, there's a declaration of human rights
L61[00:29:02] <Izaya> so I can't go with my example of "there's nothing saying I can't kill people"
L62[00:29:22] <ThePi​Guy24> i dont think it mentions straight up killing ;p
L63[00:29:32] <Izaya> There's a right to life in this.
L64[00:29:37] <ThePi​Guy24> aww
L65[00:29:41] <ThePi​Guy24> xdd
L66[00:31:23] <Izaya> Which admittedly doesn't specify that I can't kill, but it does imply it.
L67[00:31:33] * Izaya shrugs
L68[00:33:36] <ThePi​Guy24> you can kill provided that they remain alive
L69[00:34:01] <Izaya> hmmm
L70[00:34:03] <Izaya> unsure
L71[00:34:05] <Izaya> > Right to Freedom from Torture (and Freedom from Cruel and Unusual Punishment)
L72[00:37:17] <bad at​ vijya> just go full thermonuclear dictatorship
L73[00:37:18] <bad at​ vijya> ez
L74[00:38:24] <ThePi​Guy24> overthow skye the dictator
L75[00:38:42] <Izaya> but that would make Paz sad
L76[00:38:51] <Izaya> https://cdn.donmai.us/original/a2/96/__paz_ortega_andrade_metal_gear_and_2_more_drawn_by_kowaremashita__a2963bf759104fc8c4e0e9c4c6fc4fe7.png
L77[00:39:01] <ThePi​Guy24> wont take much effort as there will be near 0 pushback
L78[00:39:22] <ThePi​Guy24> no it will be peaceful
L79[00:39:35] <ThePi​Guy24> as skye doesnt have the infrastructure to fight back xd
L80[00:39:38] <Izaya> o-oh
L81[00:39:42] * Izaya slides guillotine back behind wall
L82[00:39:56] <Skye> Are you trying to overthrow a country
L83[00:40:02] <Izaya> >.>
L84[00:40:04] <Izaya> <.<
L85[00:40:06] <Izaya> noooo
L86[00:40:47] <ThePi​Guy24> there is no trying
L87[00:40:53] <ThePi​Guy24> it has already happened
L88[00:40:57] <ThePi​Guy24> basicallt
L89[00:40:59] <ThePi​Guy24> basically [Edited]
L90[00:41:02] <Izaya> I have seized the memes of production
L91[00:41:37] <Skye> I mean as long as you keep the constitution, it's fine
L92[00:41:53] <Izaya> I mean is it really overthrowing if there was nothing there before?
L93[00:43:44] <Skye> It's overthrowing if you get rid of the constitution
L94[00:44:34] <Izaya> I should make more solar panels so I can run lots of cloches at once
L95[00:44:39] <Izaya> start producing lots of bread
L96[00:45:11] <ThePi​Guy24> yes bread
L97[00:45:15] <ThePi​Guy24> the fuel of socialism
L98[00:45:31] <Izaya> something something conquest of bread
L99[00:58:38] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/xmpp/upload/RQ_I5UDlscqsu9lc/2021-05-17_10.57.36.png
L100[00:59:08] <Izaya> realistically, this is the logical conclusion of adding this mod
L101[01:02:08] <Kristo​pher38> where are you playing exactly
L102[01:02:18] <Kristo​pher38> can't quite figure it out from the context
L103[01:02:28] <Izaya> where?
L104[01:02:32] <Izaya> at my computer
L105[01:04:21] <Kristo​pher38> I already know that part
L106[01:04:50] <ThePi​Guy24> some frozen wasteland idk
L107[01:05:04] <ThePi​Guy24> that "idk" was a lie, i know exactly where
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L109[01:25:43] <Ar​iri> %tell Inari https://youtu.be/nzk49XSEobI
L110[01:25:43] <MichiBot> Ar​iri: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L111[01:25:44] <MichiBot> *user has left your channel* | length: 12s | Likes: 11,280 Dislikes: 43 Views: 81,773 | by BiggZim Ch. | Published On 16/5/2021
L112[01:29:02] <CompanionCube> Izaya: leninist izaya?
L113[01:29:32] <Izaya> perhaps
L114[01:30:21] <CompanionCube> he *did* go and end the constituent assembly in russia...
L115[01:31:03] <Izaya> :3
L116[01:31:35] * CompanionCube recalls the 'crush the saboteurs' bit
L117[01:32:03] <Izaya> but no I presently have no intention of getting rid of the current system of direct democracy
L118[01:32:09] <Izaya> given I make up 1/3 of the vote
L119[01:32:46] <ThePi​Guy24> how about making up 1/1 of the vote ;p
L120[01:33:19] * CompanionCube whacks Izaya with The People's Stick
L121[01:33:35] <Izaya> CompanionCube: but I am 1/3 of the people :<
L122[01:33:48] <CompanionCube> :3
L123[01:35:01] <CompanionCube> btw after birthday old PS/2 OEM keyboard from 2008 is no longer
L124[01:35:10] <Izaya> aw
L125[01:35:20] <CompanionCube> shiny new RGB USB one
L126[01:35:33] <CompanionCube> not per-key lighting though
L127[01:35:46] <Izaya> still rocking my Dell L100
L128[01:36:12] <Izaya> https://archive.nyafuu.org/wg/full_image/1599852428881.jpg
L129[01:36:59] <ThePi​Guy24> USBSSR
L130[01:37:16] <ThePi​Guy24> alternatively; USSB
L131[01:37:30] <CompanionCube> https://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-Membrane-Keyboard-English-HX-KB5ME2-UK/dp/B07KBM6FNR
L132[01:39:55] <CompanionCube> Izaya: shitpost: media keys as emacs modifiers
L133[01:40:04] <Izaya> cursed
L134[01:40:06] <Izaya> do it
L135[01:43:39] <CompanionCube> (i did not know those were standarised, but someone else where said so and i confirmed it with xev since they don't actually do anything out of the box)
L136[01:44:17] <Izaya> yeah there's XF86 keycodes for it
L137[02:00:59] <Izaya> do I need an inventory controller upgrade to have my robot move items to and from its inventory?
L138[02:05:28] <pay​onel> yes
L139[02:05:39] <pay​onel> also, i'm making some pretty important fixes on it
L140[02:05:55] <pay​onel> which are difficult to test, because there are SO many different error checks we have to make
L141[02:06:15] <Izaya> haha
L142[02:12:30] <Amanda> CompanionCube: yeah theyve been standardised for awhile. I think most of them even have assigned HID codes
L143[02:13:47] <Amanda> I remember discovering those XF86 codes in the early '10s trying to debug something or other
L144[02:14:04] <Amanda> Probably predate even that
L145[02:14:43] <Amanda> Anyways, I have decided it's sleeps time
L146[02:14:51] <Izaya> Alright, two inventory upgrades, an inventory controller upgrade, a crafting upgrade, a tiny bit of memory, a wireless card, and an EEPROM configured for RPC. Am I missing anything for a crafting robot?
L147[02:14:54] * Amanda tucks in around Elfi, zzzmews
L148[02:15:18] <Amanda> Night nerds
L149[02:15:23] <Izaya> o/
L150[02:30:39] *** Ariri[away] is now known as Ariri
L151[02:31:28] <Train​fan91> @payonel do the types of computer screens need to be the same?
L152[02:31:51] <pay​onel> @Trainfan91
L153[02:31:56] <pay​onel> i used your save, and changed nothing
L154[02:40:30] <Train​fan91> @payonel did it work?
L155[02:41:01] <Train​fan91> on another instance the mod works...
L156[02:41:09] <Train​fan91> the program i mean
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L158[02:44:49] <pay​onel> yes it worked
L159[02:45:10] <pay​onel> loaded up the world, started the server, the tablet, typed `psh -f` and it connected
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L161[03:02:36] <Train​fan91> @payonel i have nows; I changed maxWirelessRange in config and THAT's what borked it...
L162[03:04:57] <Amanda> Oh hey, I guess that rude fox stole all my tireds again
L163[03:12:42] <Train​fan91> Amanda if that's a joke, i don't get it...
L164[03:13:17] <Amanda> That's okay, you don't have to
L165[03:13:21] <Train​fan91> @payonel i have news; I changed maxWirelessRange in config and THAT's what borked it... [Edited]
L166[03:13:41] <Train​fan91> But i have ocd...
L167[03:13:53] <Train​fan91> therefore i MUST know
L168[03:14:17] <Amanda> %choose irradiate some more or Stare at the small rectangle instead
L169[03:14:17] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I tried reading my tea leaves this morning. There was something about death and doom. Anyway, go with "irradiate some more"
L170[03:14:32] <Train​fan91> is the joke about insomnia?
L171[03:14:33] <Amanda> Sounds good
L172[03:15:45] <Train​fan91> %choose Fallout: New Vegas or Fallout 76
L173[03:15:46] <MichiBot> Train​fan91: Huh, what? "Fallout 76" I guess, now leave me alone I'm playing Tetris.
L174[03:15:56] <Train​fan91> lol
L175[03:16:55] <Train​fan91> michibot has BAD tastes in gaming...'
L176[03:17:01] <Train​fan91> michibot has BAD tastes in gaming... [Edited]
L177[03:18:05] <Train​fan91> for michibot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjbPPMvUcsE
L178[03:18:05] <MichiBot> Heavy Tetris Guy | length: 1m 11s | Likes: 2,133 Dislikes: 45 Views: 270,043 | by Mario6493 | Published On 26/3/2010
L179[03:52:58] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L180[03:52:58] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Compan​ionCube! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 2 hours, 22 minutes and 4 seconds (By 3 hours, 49 minutes and 27 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L181[03:52:59] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.100771. Position #2 Need 0.10233155 more points to pass Va​ur!
L182[04:03:37] * CompanionCube remembered to test that sysrq works over usb just in case
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L186[05:24:24] <Forec​aster> @yess %autorun
L187[05:24:24] <MichiBot> In OpenOS, in the file `/home/.shrc` put a single shell command on each line
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L190[05:56:05] <Izaya> proton 6.8-ge-1 runs Metro Exodus perfectly
L191[05:56:20] <Izaya> RX 580, on high, good shit
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L193[06:23:27] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L194[06:23:28] <MichiBot> Fudge! Forec​aster! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 30 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L195[06:23:29] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 30 minutes and 29 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00251 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.1987303 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L197[07:04:49] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: wack
L198[07:04:59] <bad at​ vijya> have you gotten to the desert yet
L199[07:07:42] <kinkinkijkin> izaya mentioning that psychos has some influence from haiku a week or so ago reminded me that haiku existed, so I put haiku on a spare drive and chucked it in my main computer, I haven't booted back into gentoo since
L200[07:07:59] <kinkinkijkin> darn you, inspiring me to use good operating systems
L201[07:41:36] <Izaya> good shit innit
L202[07:41:47] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya: nope, steam crashed and took the game with it lmao
L203[07:57:13] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: as expected
L204[08:03:54] <dequbed> Izaya: Institute a "One man, one vote" system on that skye server of yours. You're the man and you have the vote.
L205[08:05:23] <Izaya> dequbed: I was thinking like
L206[08:05:37] <Izaya> form the country-level equivalent of the galactic council
L207[08:05:40] <Izaya> reduce council size to 2
L208[08:05:43] <Izaya> reduce council size to 1
L209[08:05:48] <Izaya> declare galactic custodian
L210[08:05:51] <Izaya> permanent council seat
L211[08:05:58] <Izaya> declare galactic imperium
L212[08:07:21] <ThePi​Guy24> just go by how it worked on descent in VF, as in, only active residents are counted in the vote, and you are the only active resident ;p
L213[08:07:34] <dequbed> Izaya: I'm with you up until "declare galactic imperium".
L214[08:07:47] <Izaya> seemed overrated tbh
L215[08:07:54] <Izaya> I can just give myself absurd diplomatic weight
L216[08:09:18] <dequbed> Izaya: We should play another round of stellaris MP, I need a megacorp to fund my communist galaxy takeover :P
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L221[08:50:34] <CompanionCube> kinkinkijkin: >haiku as main os
L222[08:50:43] <CompanionCube> 10/10 shitpost
L223[08:57:27] <kinkinkijkin> not a shitpost
L224[08:57:34] <kinkinkijkin> genuinely enjoying it now that it's set up
L225[08:57:45] <kinkinkijkin> took a bit of effort to set it up but it's going smooth now
L226[08:59:53] <Klea​dron> waiting for it to get hardware acceleration
L227[09:00:11] <Klea​dron> also waiting for oc/cc to get hardware acceleration
L228[09:00:21] <Klea​dron> :troll:
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L232[10:04:09] <Forec​aster> It's very handy to be able to remote control nearly all computers at work when a colleague calls and says "hey something is wrong with my new laptop"
L233[10:10:53] <stephan48> "Shutdown all" ... hey be happy not everyone has a problem, not just you!
L234[10:10:59] <stephan48> now*
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L239[11:12:16] <Lizzy> stephan48, more fun: tell your software distribution system to go ahead and force rebuild all devices
L240[11:12:32] <stephan48> ;D
L241[11:12:36] <stephan48> welll
L242[11:13:47] <stephan48> i am a guy who likes PXE a lot... but for some reason the head admin at my first job was head and nails against the idea of me installing a network wide PXE system to allow kickstarting computer installastions easier... for the distribution system i installed as one of my first tasks there
L243[11:14:17] <stephan48> i never understood why he disliked the prospect of just rightlicking a server in the admin ui and telling it to install \o/
L244[11:15:30] <stephan48> sometime later he understood that yes shutdown all or... install this app which forces a reboot is also a option in the ui
L245[11:16:02] <ThePi​Guy24> because then they cant force the interns to do it manually'p
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L248[11:36:51] <Light​ Dimf> Oh shit, dev builds of OC for 1.12.2
L249[11:36:54] <Light​ Dimf> Finally
L250[11:42:42] <Forec​aster> This is great https://imgur.com/gallery/5qsTAzF
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L255[13:46:45] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L256[13:46:45] <MichiBot> Yippee! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 30 minutes and 29 seconds (By 4 hours, 52 minutes and 46 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L257[13:46:46] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.012 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.9210407, Position #3 Need 0.1797303 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L261[14:10:47] <Inari> Nep
L262[14:11:58] <ThePi​Guy24> Неп
L263[14:17:57] <Forec​aster> %sip
L264[14:17:57] <MichiBot> You drink a dusty sapphire potion (New!). Sitting down suddenly seems like a really terrible idea.
L265[14:18:16] <Forec​aster> I will avoid standing up at all costs
L266[14:21:41] <pay​onel> @Light Dimf o/
L267[14:36:46] <Vexatos> yo payonel
L268[14:36:56] <Vexatos> I saw you closed the 3D print lighting bug issue, has that been fixed?
L269[14:37:46] <Vexatos> #2127 that is
L270[14:51:17] <B​ob> so Payonel, what is there to test 👁️
L271[14:56:18] <Kristo​pher38> I'd also like to get my hands on the new build
L272[14:56:25] <n​il> %tonk
L273[14:56:25] <MichiBot> Wow! n​il! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 9 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L274[14:56:26] <MichiBot> nil's new record is 1 hour, 9 minutes and 40 seconds! nil also gained 0.00116 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.51660939 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L275[14:56:42] <n​il> %sip
L276[14:56:43] <MichiBot> You drink a fiery yellow potion (New!). It tastes salty.
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L282[15:42:37] <B​ob> >Kristo​pher38: I'd also like to get my hands on the…
L283[15:42:37] <B​ob> looks like we came a bit late lol
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L286[16:33:13] <bad at​ vijya> A https://tinyurl.com/yk4fay2o
L287[16:57:00] <schl​uups> I'm having problems with OPPM to install software I wrote for OpenComputers. I need to install it on 3 computers (servers) but while OPPM went fine for the first 2 installs, it now gives me a 403. The file size is 86k in case that matters
L288[16:57:14] <schl​uups> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/hiyusazuvi
L289[16:57:32] <schl​uups> Any ideas?
L290[16:58:15] <schl​uups> Hadn't used it for plenty months so no idea if a recent problem on a server or something
L291[16:59:14] <fingercomp> you've probably exceeded some github api request rate quota
L292[16:59:34] <fingercomp> I think they only allow you to make 60 requests to the api per hour from a single host as determined by the ip address
L293[16:59:40] <fingercomp> without authorization
L294[17:00:01] <fingercomp> which oppm doesn't support, unfortunately
L295[17:00:22] <schl​uups> ok, I think you are right, was afraid was something like that
L296[17:00:30] <schl​uups> thx 🙂
L297[17:01:32] <Va​ur> %tonk
L298[17:01:35] <MichiBot> Uh-oh! Va​ur! You beat n​il's previous record of 1 hour, 9 minutes and 40 seconds (By 55 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L299[17:01:36] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 2 hours, 5 minutes and 8 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00184 (0.00092 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L300[17:23:22] <pay​onel> >Vex​atos: I saw you closed the 3D print lighting b…
L301[17:23:22] <pay​onel> it lived for 5 years without an update. it seemed very low priority and i ready to move on
L302[17:23:36] <Vexatos> well it is still a thing
L303[17:23:43] <pay​onel> feel free to fix it
L304[17:23:45] <Vexatos> if you place the diamond block 3D print you can easily see it
L305[17:23:47] <Vexatos> I have no clue how :P
L306[17:24:09] <pay​onel> then reopen it and say it is important to you 🙂
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L308[17:24:42] <pay​onel> there, opened back up 🙂
L309[17:24:49] <Vexatos> thanks I guess
L310[17:24:59] <Vexatos> I had hope you magically fixed it :P
L311[17:25:11] <Vexatos> I looked into it at some point but couldn't figure it out
L312[17:25:20] <Vexatos> it happens on 1.12 too
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L314[17:25:34] <pay​onel> fyi, i've been working on this: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/3253
L315[17:25:35] <MichiBot> Title: EEPROMs not being changed when accessed by Transposer | Posted by: bibo38 | Posted: Thu Mar 26 18:10:25 UTC 2020 | Status: open
L316[17:25:43] <Vexatos> ew caching
L317[17:25:50] <pay​onel> the fix is actually quite simple, but there are many workflows to test
L318[17:25:54] <Vexatos> hm?
L319[17:26:36] <pay​onel> inventory_controller, transposer, robot, each have their own api that goes through shared SimpleInventory code and InventoryUtils code
L320[17:26:57] <Vexatos> right
L321[17:27:04] <pay​onel> every one of those needs to carefully use updated ItemStack objects if they are using
L322[17:27:30] <pay​onel> some areas of code are "safe" because no ItemStack updates occur on some movements
L323[17:27:43] <Kristo​pher38> @payonel finally caught you, i'm available for testing the changes you spoke of yesterday
L324[17:27:44] <pay​onel> i think in the end i have a small set of changes for it
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L326[17:28:44] <pay​onel> @Kristopher38 thanks, but now i'm thinking I'm not quite ready to share it. i wanted to remove some of the code changes that i think don't actually matter. also i retested the changes in 1.7.10 (made them first in 1.12) and found that forge's IInventory interface got a new method in 1.12 that i don't have in 1.7.10, so that messed me up for a bit.
L327[17:29:37] <pay​onel> my new solution makes the code very similar between the two, when it can be. anyways, just one of those bugs that is easy to understand the problem, and has a good fix, but is tedious to verify and keep clean...and clean for migration
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L329[17:37:11] <Kristo​pher38> oh I see, no rush
L330[17:46:57] <B​ob> you can ping me at any time, i have a 1.12.2 test pack for such shenanigans
L331[17:47:05] <B​ob> altough now im probably close to almost not availaible at all
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L335[18:01:40] <schl​uups> Concerning the OPPM problem I was having, just waiting did fix it so probably linked to a github limitation on non authenticated users indeed. Thx!
L336[18:58:09] <Elfi> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/760510847171821588/843919013050581032/20210517_143222.jpg little moth
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L339[20:22:52] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L340[20:22:52] <MichiBot> Fudge! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 2 hours, 5 minutes and 8 seconds (By 1 hour, 16 minutes and 9 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L341[20:22:53] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.9270407. Position #3 Need 0.1737303 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L344[21:23:43] <Izaya> people write big software, don't they
L345[21:24:09] <Amanda> I compress all my software info micro-singularities!
L346[21:24:17] <Izaya> same mass tho
L347[21:24:33] <Amanda> shhh
L348[21:24:54] <Amanda> %choose continue wasting the day away with haluainctions or try and figure out why git.camnet.site is 502'ing
L349[21:24:54] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I spy with my robotic eye something beginning with "try and figure out why git.camnet.site is 502'ing"!
L350[21:25:00] <Amanda> oh fine kill-joy
L351[21:27:06] <Va​ur> define "big software"
L352[21:27:33] <Forec​aster> a big black tower, a single red eye
L353[21:27:35] <Forec​aster> it sees all
L354[21:28:19] <Va​ur> I didn't realise middle earth had software 🤔
L355[21:28:50] <Va​ur> %tonk
L356[21:28:50] <MichiBot> Wild! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 5 minutes and 57 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L357[21:28:51] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 1 hour, 5 minutes and 57 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.0011 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L358[21:31:33] <Izaya> Vaur: in the case of OC, I'd say it's big once it doesn't fit in the tmpfs
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L362[21:39:07] <Klea​dron> Izaya: the linux kernel is a big software right, how heavy is it
L363[21:39:34] <Izaya> 3.6GB of source, 9M compiled
L364[21:44:36] <Klea​dron> wtf
L365[21:45:00] <Izaya> chrome is like 30GB of source, by the way
L366[21:45:09] <Klea​dron> how
L367[21:45:25] <Izaya> google takes CADT development to the extreme
L368[21:45:41] <Izaya> plus their whole thing is adding more shit to HTML and etc so nobody else can keep up
L369[21:46:12] <Sagh​etti> CADT?
L370[21:46:27] <Izaya> cascade of attention-defecit teenagers
L371[21:47:46] <Izaya> usually used in relation to GNOME but I think it works even better for google
L372[21:54:07] <Klea​dron> I wonder what practical uses there would be for 3D in OC/CC
L373[21:55:11] <Klea​dron> Someone made a 3D library for CC that seems to be able to render fast enough to run simple games and demos
L374[21:55:29] <Klea​dron> I tried it and it's pretty good
L375[21:55:37] <Klea​dron> though obviously very simple
L376[21:55:44] <Klea​dron> CC only has 16 colors
L377[21:56:29] <Izaya> I'm going to have a very f a s t OC machine soon
L378[21:57:34] <phroa> OC host GPU passthru when?
L379[21:58:42] <Klea​dron> oh wait that just reminded me of the idea I had
L380[21:59:03] <Izaya> speaking of, firewire card should turn up today or tomorrow
L381[21:59:05] <Izaya> exciting
L382[21:59:07] <Klea​dron> you have a seperate slave computer running the 3D graphics and then it streams the output to the client machine running the actual program
L383[22:00:15] <Klea​dron> Izaya: I saw you were making a dedicated OC machine earlier?
L384[22:00:24] <Izaya> yees
L385[22:00:53] <Izaya> once the firewire card and cable turn up I can install the software on it
L386[22:02:46] <Izaya> then I'll have a PsychOS machine
L387[22:07:52] <Izaya> finally replace what's on it with a real OS https://social.shadowkat.net/media/96160da3b23ddf5a154f109c265840bad3be8c080e4a0614a7693cdb8b8b5b6a.jpg
L388[22:10:33] <Klea​dron> mfw powerpc oc computer
L389[22:13:37] <Izaya> 800Mhz PowerlessPC processor, 384M of RAM, 40GB of disk, 100M ethernet
L390[22:15:19] <CompanionCube> Izaya: it's funny how the version of GNOME contemporary with CADT was two or three versions ago. (is gnome 4 out yet?)
L391[22:15:39] <Izaya> it's gnome 40 now
L392[22:15:45] <Izaya> they're copying chrome
L393[22:16:12] <Amanda> nope, worse
L394[22:16:14] <CompanionCube> 'Because of the release of GNOME 2.0 and 2.2, and the lack of interest in maintainership of GNOME 1.4, the gnome-core product is being closed. If you feel your bug is still of relevance to GNOME 2, please reopen it and refile it against a more appropriate component. Thanks... '
L395[22:16:19] <Amanda> odd versions are udev release
L396[22:16:26] <Amanda> s/udev/dev/
L397[22:16:26] <MichiBot> <Amanda> odd versions are dev release
L398[22:16:35] <Amanda> So it's going 2x as fast
L399[22:22:46] <Sagh​etti> Izaya: i could install the OC emulator thing on one of the i7-7700 workstations i have
L400[22:22:51] <Sagh​etti> (one of like 10 lmao)
L401[22:23:05] <Izaya> but it wouldn't have a CRT
L402[22:26:32] <t20kdc> CompanionCube: so you may or may not have heard my "horror story" earlier
L403[22:28:08] <Izaya> Saghetti: also I have a few optiplex 9020s here with 4790s, I imagine they'd make f a s t OC machines
L404[22:28:32] * Amanda gives Izaya's OC machines speeding tickets
L405[22:28:44] <Izaya> but at the same time I feel like running OC software on a multiprocessor machine is a bit of a waste unless you're going to run a different emulator for each thread
L406[22:29:03] <Klea​dron> just add multithreading to lua, ez
L407[22:29:19] <CompanionCube> t20kdc: oh?
L408[22:29:33] <Klea​dron> alternatively izaya you could just do a windows 98 computer with a pentium 3
L409[22:29:38] <t20kdc> CompanionCube: "Three years, a migration from Bugzilla to GitLab, two merge requests (by two different people, one an official developer of the repo), and the official one took a year to get merged."
L410[22:29:39] <Izaya> icky
L411[22:29:47] <CompanionCube> ah yes
L412[22:29:48] <Sagh​etti> remember when i was working on an OC multiprocessing thingy?
L413[22:29:49] <Izaya> the Pentium 3 machine gets BeOS
L414[22:29:56] <Sagh​etti> with wired network cards and microcontrollers acting as cpu cores
L415[22:29:59] <Klea​dron> I meant a windows 98 class computer
L416[22:30:12] <Izaya> oh okay
L417[22:30:13] <Klea​dron> windows 98 itself sucks
L418[22:30:19] <t20kdc> Izaya: given the whole tick limit even a single-processor machine is a waste unless you run an OC server farm, so just do that tbh
L419[22:30:30] <Izaya> I have a Slot 1 Pentium II machine here
L420[22:30:34] <Izaya> t20kdc: tick limit?
L421[22:30:39] <t20kdc> 20tps
L422[22:30:46] <Izaya> ... this isn't inside Minecraft
L423[22:31:01] <Klea​dron> the tick limit is only between server-client inside minecraft
L424[22:31:11] <Klea​dron> on the server it does whatever speed it wants
L425[22:31:14] <t20kdc> yes, but surely a proper emulator would emulate it! for accuracy!
L426[22:31:29] <Klea​dron> a proper minecraft version wouldn't have the tick limit in the first place
L427[22:31:37] <Izaya> good thing this isn't a proper emulator then :^)
L428[22:31:59] <t20kdc> but think how many more OC emulators you could run if you artificially slowed them all down
L429[22:32:15] <Izaya> I can only switch to 12 vtys
L430[22:32:15] <Klea​dron> seriously, fuck minecraft's internal server
L431[22:32:32] <Izaya> t20kdc: I'm going to expose the ethernet and firewire interfaces as modem components
L432[22:32:36] <Izaya> it's gonna be great
L433[22:32:56] <Amanda> better than when the internal server wasn't a thingand it was twoseperate codebases for server/client, @Kleadron
L434[22:33:10] <t20kdc> Izaya: ooo, is it going to be Ethernet-Over-OC or IPv6-Over-OC?
L435[22:33:20] <Izaya> Minitel over Ethernet (MoE)
L436[22:33:24] <t20kdc> aaaah
L437[22:33:34] <Izaya> and possibly minitel over firewire
L438[22:33:38] <Izaya> that could be fun
L439[22:33:40] <Izaya> we'll see
L440[22:33:40] <Klea​dron> Amanda: I feel like there should be a way to make the game integrate with the internal server better at least
L441[22:33:52] <Klea​dron> so actions that happen on the server happen instantly on the client regardless of tickrate
L442[22:34:00] <Klea​dron> sync the tickrate up or whtever
L443[22:34:02] <Klea​dron> idk
L444[22:34:08] <Amanda> not without destroying that seperation that makes it so that the dedicated server behaves the same
L445[22:34:26] <t20kdc> Izaya: just so you know, the OIPv6 stuff might be able to help with that, you just need to change the mode over (though it's still TUN/TAP-based, not raw sockets)
L446[22:34:52] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sxmGxuCM4g
L447[22:34:54] <MichiBot> First look at the PinePhone Keyboard dev unit | length: 5m 21s | Likes: 56 Dislikes: 0 Views: 314 | by Martijn Braam | Published On 17/5/2021
L448[22:34:59] <Izaya> there will be no IP involved here
L449[22:35:21] <Kristo​pher38> You're making me want an OC machine too
L450[22:35:58] <Kristo​pher38> ...and I have a few old pcs laying around
L451[22:36:02] <Izaya> the software I'm using was originally designed for the RPi
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L453[22:36:09] <Klea​dron> the internal server is nice for easy client/server compatibility and shit but I feel like it would complicate things a lot for simpler mods
L454[22:37:05] <Klea​dron> idk, I just hate the artificial lag it adds to interaction in singleplayer
L455[22:37:19] <Kristo​pher38> yes but i'm using pi for something else
L456[22:40:20] <Klea​dron> this is the whole reason why I like 1.2.5 and below, because interactions are instant and there's no stupid network issues or unexplainable input lag going on
L457[22:41:12] <Izaya> when I played 1.2.5 it was more that the whole game ran like shit
L458[22:41:13] <Izaya> :D
L459[22:42:08] <Klea​dron> oh yeah sure so the solution is just to dump all of the shit code onto another thread rather than optimize it
L460[22:43:08] <ThePi​Guy24> eh works for commercial apps so why not for us ;p
L461[22:43:55] <Izaya> in my case the problem was that an atom n270 is not suited to playing minecraft
L462[22:46:58] <Klea​dron> tekkit actually ran pretty well on my old dell dimension
L463[22:47:33] <Klea​dron> also you know what else I love about old minecraft?
L464[22:47:45] <Klea​dron> it doesn't take 10 minutes to get to the title screen
L465[22:47:52] <Klea​dron> even when you have a lot of mods
L466[22:48:09] <Klea​dron> that might just be modern forge but it's super annoying
L467[23:00:58] <Amanda> can't say I've ever noticed any input lag in single-player
L468[23:06:22] <Klea​dron> with something like computercraft, if you compare between 1.2.5 and 1.7.10 or newer, on 1.2.5 key presses appear on the screen instantly while on 1.7.10 there's a small amount of delay
L469[23:07:00] <Klea​dron> along with this there's also the fact that the screen data needs to be transfered through the internal server which is limited to 20 tps I think
L470[23:10:03] <Klea​dron> even though it would be probably insignificant on the small scale I would argue it still adds a little bit more of overhead
L471[23:10:20] <Klea​dron> meanwhile in 1.2.5 the terminal's contents can be displayed on the GUI directly
L472[23:10:35] <Kristo​pher38> >Klea​dron: that might just be modern forge but it's supe…
L473[23:10:36] <Kristo​pher38> that's forge
L474[23:10:45] <Klea​dron> good to know
L475[23:11:14] <Kristo​pher38> iirc they talked about optimizing the loading times before modernest (1.15/1.16) forge released
L476[23:11:29] <Kristo​pher38> but I haven't actually played any mods on 1.16 so i don't know
L477[23:11:43] <Kristo​pher38> but I haven't actually played any mods on 1.16 (now that forge 1.16 exists) so i don't know [Edited]
L478[23:11:58] <Klea​dron> same
L479[23:13:14] <Kristo​pher38> anyway it was something about the initialization process, things were done at each startup which could be done only once but weren't cached for some reason
L480[23:13:40] <Klea​dron> that makes sense
L481[23:14:08] <Kristo​pher38> huge waste of everyone's time
L482[23:14:18] <Izaya> also foamfix, which is basically mandatory, increases loading times significantly
L483[23:15:06] <Kristo​pher38> it's like that nodejs progressbar that was taking 30% of the cpu time because cough some rebecca cough wrote shoddy progressbar update code
L484[23:15:36] <Kristo​pher38> and that progressbar was used when you downloaded/updated packages
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L486[23:15:54] <Kristo​pher38> so all your updates were slowed down
L487[23:16:00] <Klea​dron> holy god
L488[23:17:51] <Klea​dron> I went to go look at foamfix and the logo has some very specific coloring on it
L489[23:18:38] <Izaya> logo?
L490[23:18:58] <Klea​dron> curseforge page
L491[23:19:00] <Klea​dron> also @Sanae you didn't have foamfix installed on the modpack :desolate:
L492[23:19:24] <Izaya> oh right CF exist
L493[23:19:26] <Izaya> s
L494[23:19:31] <Izaya> and I was having such a nice day too
L495[23:19:57] <Izaya> good logo though
L496[23:19:59] <Izaya> I approve
L497[23:20:20] <Klea​dron> ok
L498[23:23:50] <Klea​dron> for some reason there's a foamfix for 1.7.10 now..
L499[23:24:00] <Klea​dron> I should try it
L500[23:27:30] <Klea​dron> oh, it says there's a possible incomptibility with optifine
L501[23:28:30] <Izaya> 1.7.10 doesn't need it as much
L502[23:28:37] <Izaya> doesn't have the JSON model shit
L503[23:29:09] <Klea​dron> oh yeah one of my main gripes (or grapes) of newer mc modding
L504[23:29:19] <Klea​dron> I have to make up to 3 json files to get a block to render correctly
L505[23:30:46] <Klea​dron> I think the last mod I made was for 1.7.10
L506[23:30:59] <Klea​dron> because it specifically didn't have that stuff
L507[23:35:39] ⇦ Quits: flappy (~flappy@88-113-155-26.elisa-laajakaista.fi) (Ping timeout: 198 seconds)
L508[23:43:01] <Sa​nae> >Klea​dron: also <@!201745963394531328> you didn't…
L509[23:43:01] <Sa​nae> sorry i dont know what foamfix is
L510[23:43:20] <Sa​nae> looking it up rn
L511[23:43:42] <Klea​dron> it's some optimization but I realized it said it's probably not compatible with optifine
L512[23:43:47] <Klea​dron> which is also installed
L513[23:43:51] <Sa​nae> lookin like some big man performance stuff
L514[23:44:25] <Sa​nae> yeah we have optifine, if it's not client dependent then i can still install it on the server
L515[23:46:11] <Klea​dron> it says it can be on the server
L516[23:47:45] <Sa​nae> then i'm adding it
L517[23:51:38] <Klea​dron> apparently optifine was screwing up rendering on my 1.2.5 modpack
L518[23:52:37] <Klea​dron> all the chunks were flipping in and out
L519[23:52:54] <Klea​dron> maybe I should make my own optimization mod
L520[23:53:09] <Klea​dron> <-- has no clue how to optimize minecraft
L521[23:54:24] <ThePi​Guy24> mood
L522[23:55:28] <Amanda> With blackjack! And ladies of the night!
L523[23:55:34] <Klea​dron> I did make a step towards it though
L524[23:56:11] <Klea​dron> back in 2020 or early this year I made a mod for 1.2.5 that pre-loads new textures that haven't been pre-loaded by the mod using it, or by minecraft itself
L525[23:56:37] <Klea​dron> forge has a specific feature that literally just loads the texture but some mods forgot to do this or didn't do it for everything
L526[23:57:04] <Klea​dron> normally it's fine but old mc has cardiac arrest when it loads hi-res textures at runtime
L527[23:57:37] <Klea​dron> instead of fixing it, it just makes a list of all textures loaded in gameplay and then loads them at startup instead
L528[23:58:06] <Klea​dron> I could probably try optimizing minecraft's render engine to load textures more efficiently
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