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L3[00:19:29] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L4[00:19:29] <MichiBot> By my throth! Compan​ionCube! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 3 hours, 33 minutes and 7 seconds (By 20 minutes and 6 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L5[00:19:30] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 3 hours, 53 minutes and 14 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00136 (0.00034 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.09149 more points to pass Va​ur!
L6[00:19:57] <Amanda> %choose do the smart or do the dumb
L7[00:19:57] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Somebody once told me to roll with "do the smart"
L8[00:49:41] <Izaya> Ariri: https://shitposter.club/media/cf7e9bb95e3e29b7391ea5aa76410ea7b9bddee1189531b4960fbc99f25a94dc.png
L9[00:50:24] <Klea​dron> wtf
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L11[01:02:09] <B​ob> now this is illegal
L12[01:04:58] <Ar​iri> Izaya: one of the things they have in common: both look like they can and will remove part of your body
L13[01:05:27] <Klea​dron> how
L14[01:14:39] <bad at​ vijya> huh
L15[01:14:47] <bad at​ vijya> i just learned about the wackiness of rendertargets in gmod
L16[01:14:55] <Izaya> look closely https://neckbeard.xyz/media/86b024b3245b5ac37d8989728a51c1890893bb2f5329d78c0ab9b4154b7c61f1.jpg
L17[01:15:00] <bad at​ vijya> this is exactly what i wanted, too
L18[01:15:10] <Izaya> that's not a sun, that's something bright and massive enough to warp light
L19[01:16:18] <bad at​ vijya> waciy\
L20[01:16:20] <bad at​ vijya> wacky, even
L21[01:21:12] <Shuud​oushi> Software for a dead technology that's been recorded on a dead technology anyone? https://tinyurl.com/ydbtuwan
L22[01:24:32] <ThePi​Guy24> powa scuzzy
L23[01:32:36] <Izaya> oh man
L24[01:32:37] <Izaya> late 90s bright blue mazda 323 astina
L25[01:32:56] <Izaya> I want it
L26[01:32:56] <Izaya> give it to me
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L28[02:00:07] <dequbed> @Kristopher38 What materials is the board made from / how old exactly? And also, do you have a hot air solder tool available?
L29[02:02:22] <dequbed> But yeah reading the other tips they've got it covered. Get yourself some good rosin (My main supplier is from Poland IIRC so you should have no problem sourcing it on flea-bay or other markets of mutual distrust)
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L31[02:06:03] <dequbed> Also just realized; if it's old enough to drink get yourself a proper fume hood. You don't wanna breathe in any of what's in those solder joints.
L32[02:24:41] <Izaya> oh
L33[02:24:54] <Izaya> maybe the reason my soundblaster didn't work was because I didn't have -5V
L34[02:27:00] <dequbed> Izaya: Just plug in USB the wrong way and you'll have -5V
L35[02:27:14] <ThePi​Guy24> works every time
L36[02:27:23] <Izaya> do I have to force the plastic tabs to be superpositioned?
L37[02:27:37] <ThePi​Guy24> no that happens naturally
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L41[02:32:35] <TPG24> love it when hexchat randomly decides that it wants to use a different socket for no good reason
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L44[02:33:48] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24: this seems relevant to your interests https://shitposter.club/media/1f7ea7167149ba4a3bed4fe0bbbecf3452114036f3a26f9fd2c153116b883846.webm
L45[02:37:04] <Klea​dron> I remember I wanted to make a computer with the integrated circuits mod, that was a pretty funny ambition
L46[02:42:18] <ThePi​Guy24> диск жокей
L47[02:44:34] <B​ob> Mr Сергей
L48[03:21:28] <Amanda> Hey Elfi, what's that over there -points behind her, boops a cutie detector when she's distracted-
L49[03:21:46] * Amanda curls up, Zzzmews
L50[03:21:49] <Amanda> Night nerds
L51[03:22:19] <Klea​dron> http://toastytech.com/guis/win1984.html
L52[03:22:36] <Klea​dron> this might be what i go for
L53[03:23:01] <Klea​dron> probably not the tiled interface but similar ui style
L54[03:25:31] <Izaya> early home computer GUIs tended to be conservative with screen space
L55[03:28:27] <bad at​ vijya> yea
L56[03:29:40] <Klea​dron> because they had no space
L57[03:29:54] <Izaya> exactly
L58[03:30:40] <ThePi​Guy24> modern ui's are just: fuck you if you have a low res screen or a high dpi screen, this ui is meant for a fucking 4k massive monitor
L59[03:31:15] <Klea​dron> i hate unity ui scaling because it makes stuff too small on 4:3 monitors and too large on 16:9 monitors
L60[03:31:30] <Klea​dron> unity as in the unity 3d game engine
L61[03:31:41] <Klea​dron> lots of games use the scaling and it's ugly
L62[03:39:09] <Klea​dron> an interesting thing is that the applications use the menu bars for "Ok" and "Cancel"
L63[03:39:11] <Klea​dron> http://toastytech.com/guis/win1984exit.gif
L64[03:39:45] <Klea​dron> most of them don't have specific buttons for it
L65[03:40:34] <i develo​p things> Lmao @ “Amiga OS 3.5 includes an html v3 capable web browser called AwebII. It has the very advanced feature of being optional - a feature so advanced that Microsoft has as of yet been unable to completely replicate it.”
L66[03:41:00] <Klea​dron> lol
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L70[03:50:59] <Izaya> consider also: 16:10 displays
L71[03:53:18] <bad at​ vijya> 16:10 <3
L72[03:53:38] <bad at​ vijya> i'm still working on my wacky HUD for gmod and i love how i'm already abusing things
L73[03:54:00] <bad at​ vijya> such as overriding the `Draw()` function on panels that don't need to have caching
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L78[04:25:31] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L79[04:25:33] <MichiBot> Geez! Compan​ionCube! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 53 minutes and 14 seconds (By 12 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L80[04:25:34] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.42706, Position #2 Need 0.08149 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L86[04:47:21] <TPG24> dont mind me and my horrific internet
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L89[05:04:34] <Snai​lDOS> Help-
L90[05:04:46] <Snai​lDOS> The terminal has no signal-
L91[05:05:04] <Snai​lDOS> I'm in space- I legit cant go home-
L92[05:05:19] <Snai​lDOS> The terminal controls the door, I can;t land if the door isnt open 😓
L93[05:09:25] <Snai​lDOS> oh no
L94[05:13:57] <Klea​dron> gg wireless technology
L95[05:14:01] <Shuud​oushi> %tonk
L96[05:14:03] <MichiBot> Uh-oh! Shuud​oushi! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 48 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L97[05:14:04] <MichiBot> Shuudoushi's new record is 48 minutes and 29 seconds! Shuudoushi also gained 0.00081 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #7. Need 0.0289 more points to pass Squi​dDev!
L98[05:14:15] <Snai​lDOS> I did ask for a satellite terminal..
L99[05:14:18] <Snai​lDOS> so what do i do now
L100[05:14:25] <Snai​lDOS> and how could i resolve it next time?
L101[05:14:33] <Snai​lDOS> is there a way I can link a tablet with a server?
L102[05:14:36] <Snai​lDOS> fromanywhere?
L103[05:15:11] <Klea​dron> i think you would need a linked card
L104[05:15:59] <Snai​lDOS> https://ocdoc.cil.li/item:linked_card
L105[05:16:01] <Snai​lDOS> ye that be awsome
L106[05:16:08] <Snai​lDOS> but how can i remote execute commands
L107[05:16:09] <Snai​lDOS> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L108[05:17:07] <Klea​dron> I guess you would need to convert the program you use to use the tunnel card or see if it has an option or there's one that exists
L109[05:17:39] <Klea​dron> Izaya: rate my totally-not-a-ripoff of windows 1.0's windows https://tinyurl.com/yco8sfch
L110[05:17:43] <Snai​lDOS> oh my god
L111[05:17:47] <Snai​lDOS> too ahrd xD
L112[05:17:53] <Snai​lDOS> that be a cool os ngl
L113[05:18:15] <Klea​dron> i just made the icon set today
L114[05:18:18] <Klea​dron> for the windows
L115[05:18:25] <Klea​dron> that was the window frame test, and it appears to work
L116[05:18:40] <Snai​lDOS> are you planning to do a os then?
L117[05:19:17] <Klea​dron> i want to do an interface probably based on OpenOS for now, i don't really want to get too deep into making my own graphical OS until i get a decent base from a text based OS first
L118[05:19:30] <Snai​lDOS> ye
L119[05:19:31] <Snai​lDOS> cool
L120[05:19:39] <Snai​lDOS> god I really need to know what to dooo
L121[05:19:56] <Snai​lDOS> if i cant remote execute commands\, I can have a open door.
L122[05:21:42] <Snai​lDOS> 😓
L123[05:21:45] <Snai​lDOS> im stucj in space ig
L124[06:14:36] <bad at​ vijya> zorya doesn't really have a terminal
L125[06:14:43] <bad at​ vijya> it's kinda wacky like that. all it has is the weird lua terminal addon
L126[06:15:42] <Klea​dron> wdym it doesn't have a terminal
L127[06:15:46] <Klea​dron> what does it use
L128[06:16:49] <bad at​ vijya> zorya's supposed to be a bootloader but it's almost grown into an OS
L129[06:17:22] <Michiyo> Neural interface, no terminal needed.
L130[06:17:53] <Klea​dron> "a bootloader" mhm
L131[06:18:02] <bad at​ vijya> yeah
L132[06:18:20] <bad at​ vijya> a bootloader with a scheduler, networking, a custom executable format
L133[06:18:24] <bad at​ vijya> ya know, a bootloader
L134[06:18:32] <bad at​ vijya> ~~there's a reason i made super multi boot~~
L135[06:18:45] <Klea​dron> mhhhmmmm
L136[06:20:06] <Klea​dron> Skye: where is MiniOS NT
L137[06:22:49] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya: a weird one for your consideration: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bangalow/cars-vans-utes/holden-gemini-diesel-te-model-for-sale/1268637554
L138[06:29:23] <Va​ur> %tonk
L139[06:29:23] <MichiBot> Yow! Va​ur! You beat Shuud​oushi's previous record of 48 minutes and 29 seconds (By 26 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L140[06:29:24] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 1 hour, 15 minutes and 21 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00045 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L141[06:33:58] <Klea​dron> moving "window" test to test performance https://tinyurl.com/ybhqntvb
L142[06:34:07] <Klea​dron> does get the screen input
L143[06:34:21] <Klea​dron> obviously redraw doesn't entirely work
L144[06:34:39] <Klea​dron> or rather, stopping it from redrawing bits it doesnt need to
L145[06:34:47] <Klea​dron> or wtf it's called
L146[06:35:24] <Klea​dron> you can get subcharacter positioning because the touch events conveniently have numbers that scale down to fake pixels
L147[06:36:51] <Klea​dron> dragging is kinda funny because it stacks up all of the touch events
L148[06:37:44] <Klea​dron> so it records how you dragged
L149[06:46:46] <Klea​dron> made an extreme debug mode that renders every single pixel modification
L150[06:46:49] <Klea​dron> very scary
L151[06:49:32] <i develo​p things> Hmmm
L152[06:50:47] <i develo​p things> You know youryou should go to bed, and maybe spend less time on the computer tomorrow, when you’re vaguely hearing random sounds in your head lol
L153[06:51:00] <i develo​p things> That, and it does happen to be 2am
L154[06:51:18] <Klea​dron> lol
L155[06:53:22] <Klea​dron> this does easily visualize redraw
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L158[07:04:13] <Mic​hiyo> Random thought as i install my new ssd... why havent i switched the wolframalpha module to use my paste site instead of spamming you via query...
L159[07:21:01] <Forec​aster> Because who doesn't love spam?
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L161[08:31:49] <bauen1> %tonk
L162[08:31:50] <MichiBot> Yippee! bau​en1! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 1 hour, 15 minutes and 21 seconds (By 47 minutes and 4 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L163[08:31:51] <MichiBot> bauen1's new record is 2 hours, 2 minutes and 26 seconds! bauen1 also gained 0.00156 (0.00078 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #5. Need 0.06649 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
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L165[09:21:19] <Va​ur> %sip
L166[09:21:20] <MichiBot> You drink a shimmering ferozium potion (New!). A tiny genie appears, gives Vaur a thumbs up, and poofs away.
L167[09:34:33] <Michiyo> yay I'm back
L168[09:34:51] <Forec​aster> or are you a mimic
L169[09:35:00] <Michiyo> One or the other for sure.
L170[09:37:00] <Forec​aster> or the third option... double mimic...
L171[09:51:55] <Forec​aster> https://imgur.com/gallery/u9RbIvI
L172[10:03:08] <Klea​dron> so "VisiCorp Visi On" has a system where you have buttons at the bottom of the window http://toastytech.com/guis/visionmultiapps.gif
L173[10:03:17] <Klea​dron> i was thinking of doing that
L174[10:05:06] <Klea​dron> it generally makes it a lot simpler to make a windowed application if it can lay out your buttons for you and it can make a more consistent experience
L175[10:12:17] <Va​ur> %sip
L176[10:12:17] <MichiBot> You drink a freezing electrum potion (New!). There's an acidic tinge to the potion... A label on the bottle reads "Who needs internal organs anyway?". Vaur takes 3d​6 => [6,4,5] acid damage.
L177[10:13:16] <Klea​dron> christ
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L181[10:47:20] <Va​ur> %tonk
L182[10:47:22] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Va​ur! You beat bau​en1's previous record of 2 hours, 2 minutes and 26 seconds (By 13 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L183[10:47:23] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 2 hours, 15 minutes and 31 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00066 (0.00022 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L188[12:05:52] <Va​ur> %sip
L189[12:05:53] <MichiBot> You drink a tiny apple potion (New!). Vaur feels a strong urge to recycle the potion bottle.
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L191[12:07:51] <ThePiGuy24> > Connecting to irc.esper.net (1.1.1.1:6697)
L192[12:08:05] <ThePiGuy24> i dont think that domain resolved correctly
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L196[13:30:53] <Amanda> Nah, it's just cloudflare trying to mitm you
L197[13:31:38] <Forec​aster> isn't 1.1.1.1 a google DNS?
L198[13:31:47] <ThePi​Guy24> yes i think
L199[13:32:03] <Vexatos> 1.1.1.1 is cloudflare, 8.8.8.8 is google
L200[13:32:13] <Forec​aster> ah
L201[13:32:14] <ThePi​Guy24> ah
L202[13:32:24] <ThePi​Guy24> curse you cloudflare
L203[13:32:26] <Forec​aster> I thought both were google for some reason
L204[13:36:18] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/f02269ce3d3204d3a87f35ad5ed7b488d3293bae32864f015a08a5f26f03c476.jpg
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L213[14:26:19] <Amanda> Google is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and also a couple of similar-ending ipv6
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L215[14:28:47] <bad at​ vijya> gmod hud is coming along
L216[14:29:33] <bad at​ vijya> i forgot to allow for different element alignment but oh well
L217[14:29:42] <Amanda> Or is to coming ashort?
L218[14:29:51] <Amanda> Is it*
L219[14:30:51] <bad at​ vijya> lmao
L220[14:31:05] <bad at​ vijya> my wacky modular HUD
L221[14:49:39] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L222[14:49:41] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Va​ur! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 15 minutes and 31 seconds (By 1 hour, 46 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L223[14:49:42] <MichiBot> Va​ur has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.51966, Position #1
L224[14:51:15] <Va​ur> %sip
L225[14:51:15] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly diamond potion (New!). Vaur gains an additional bone.
L226[15:03:21] <Amanda> %splash Inari with mutable green potion
L227[15:03:21] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable green potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari turns into a currentcorn bear until they have A Cyan potion.
L228[15:04:05] * Amanda flees to Elfi's pocket dimension
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L230[15:41:14] <bauen1> %tonk
L231[15:41:14] <MichiBot> Bingo! bau​en1! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 51 minutes and 34 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L232[15:41:15] <MichiBot> bauen1's new record is 51 minutes and 34 seconds! bauen1 also gained 0.00086 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #5. Need 0.06563 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
L233[15:50:34] <My​ros> What components do you have in tablets?
L234[15:51:08] <My​ros> i'm thinking about an Experiance upgrade, that was in another robot for a while (LV20) does that make sense?
L235[15:52:13] <My​ros> and in the upgrade slot card or upgrade container?
L236[15:53:07] <Amanda> Can experience upgrades go in a tablet?
L237[15:54:18] <My​ros> oh does not work
L238[15:54:35] <My​ros> what do you have in your tablet?
L239[15:55:24] <My​ros> and does the tablet have a preinstalled monitor and keyboard, or is this something i schould not forget?
L240[15:56:41] <My​ros> https://tinyurl.com/y8k35xwg
L241[15:57:11] <Amanda> monitor yes, keyboard no
L242[15:57:42] <Amanda> as in, it needs a keyboard to type in it, but the monitor is part ofthe tablet case
L243[15:58:45] <Amanda> %choose halucinate more or spaaace
L244[15:58:45] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Haven't you always gone with "spaaace"? Hm, maybe not.
L245[15:59:00] <Amanda> okay, but first: litter tray
L246[16:21:38] <Inari> Amanda: rude
L247[16:21:52] * Amanda tilts her head
L248[16:22:01] <Amanda> shouldI have used your pillow instead of the litter tray?
L249[16:22:51] <Inari> I mean, the potion!
L250[16:23:22] <Amanda> oh, that
L251[16:24:01] <Va​ur> %sip
L252[16:24:03] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating water potion (New!). Vaur gains one research point. Vaur now has 1 point.
L253[16:31:32] <Forec​aster> I like that X4 lets you provide the components for each individual module when ordering a ship be constructed
L254[16:36:01] <Forec​aster> need two ships for all the parts though
L255[16:46:02] <Forec​aster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CeKiSn5lGU
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L257[16:46:04] <MichiBot> This Serial "Optical Laser Mouse" from 1996 | length: 16m 31s | Likes: 1,476 Dislikes: 6 Views: 10,491 | by LGR Blerbs | Published On 20/2/2021
L258[16:57:53] <Forec​aster> oh, maybe the parts are just if you have your own shipyard/warf
L259[16:59:54] <bad at​ vijya> ayy
L260[16:59:56] <bad at​ vijya> alignment works
L261[17:00:13] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/yd4dfvdr
L262[17:00:16] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/y9v5d2uq
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L267[18:08:17] <Amanda> Welp, figutred out why I wasn't getting any of the next tier of material, dispite mining in that area for awhile. Rebecca didn't have a high-enough tier mining laser.
L268[18:12:45] <Inari> rip
L269[18:12:47] <Inari> %pet Amanda
L270[18:12:48] <MichiBot> Inari is brushing Amanda with uwu. Amanda regains 1d4 => 3 hit points!
L271[18:14:58] <Inari> ᴱ ₓ ᵖ ₑ ʳ ᵢ ᵉ ₙ ᶜ ₑ uwu
L272[18:15:55] <Va​ur> %tonk
L273[18:15:55] <MichiBot> By my throth! Va​ur! You beat bau​en1's previous record of 51 minutes and 34 seconds (By 1 hour, 43 minutes and 6 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L274[18:15:56] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 2 hours, 34 minutes and 40 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00172 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L275[18:16:23] <Va​ur> %sip
L276[18:16:23] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy tiberium potion (New!). The bottle turns into a coralcreep bow.
L277[18:17:07] <NotTh​atKid> Is this discord chat connected to an IRC server, or what's going on here?
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L279[18:18:37] <NotTh​atKid> Oh that's pretty cool
L280[18:18:42] ⇦ Parts: NotThatKidOnDiscord (webchat@097-091-105-000.res.spectrum.com) ())
L281[18:18:50] <Va​ur> yes, corded bridge the discord with irc
L282[18:19:18] <NotTh​atKid> I take it Corded is a bot designed specifically for this?
L283[18:19:51] <Optional o​pt = null;> yeah
L284[18:19:56] <NotTh​atKid> Cool
L285[18:20:06] <Optional o​pt = null;> %sip
L286[18:20:07] <MichiBot> You drink an eroded cerulium potion (New!). Optional opt = null; turns into a lizard girl for 42 seconds.
L287[18:20:15] <Optional o​pt = null;> what???
L288[18:24:36] <Inari> congrats
L289[18:24:42] <Inari> You've got to experience being a lizard girl
L290[18:32:23] <Inari> I forgot how addictive Stardew's music is
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L294[20:04:25] <Amanda> %choose new ship or tiffiny -> rachel
L295[20:04:25] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I received a message from future you, said to go with "new ship".
L296[20:09:05] <Inari> Amanda: Still DSP?
L297[20:09:40] <Amanda> Inari: Avorion this last week or so
L298[20:09:47] <Inari> I see
L299[20:09:58] <Inari> Haven't played that since its demo
L300[20:28:41] <Va​ur> %sip
L301[20:28:41] <MichiBot> You drink a salty bombastium potion (New!). Vaur spots a shiny thing!
L302[20:39:18] <Amanda> %remindme 5m stop production of Scotts
L303[20:39:18] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "stop production of Scotts" in 5m at 02/20/2021 08:44:18 PM
L304[20:44:18] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: stop production of Scotts
L305[21:01:50] <dequbed> I like how TPG24 is just Izaya style bad tech takes, but via Discord :P
L306[21:02:21] <ThePi​Guy24> i guess thats one way to describe me
L307[21:02:55] <dequbed> Amanda: What did Scotland do to you that you want to stop them from being produced? :o
L308[21:10:15] <CompanionCube> dequbed: that would be Scots, not Scotts
L309[21:10:31] <dequbed> I am aware, that's the joke.
L310[21:13:39] <Amanda> dequbed: not enough of them for me to put them to work salvaging vessels
L311[21:17:54] <Klea​dron> https://tinyurl.com/y9uef7fq
L312[21:18:35] <dequbed> Wait systemd has a boot loader now? Neat
L313[21:19:18] <Klea​dron> i heard something about systemd trying to do everything and i guess i see that now
L314[21:21:37] <dequbed> I mean it's just gummiboot under systemd stewardship, but still. Neat.
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L317[21:42:24] <Elfi> Yeah, it's honestly kind of obnoxious because it bypasses package managers as part of systemd but it works as a minimalistic setup I guess
L318[21:43:21] <dequbed> Elfi: I guess but then again most boot loaders have to due to the way they work. gummiboot *could* have sidestepped that and just required a ESP mounted in /boot but that's not a terrible good solution either.
L319[21:44:38] <Elfi> Most bootloaders use proper installation/update hooks in my experience
L320[21:45:00] <dequbed> What do you mean?
L321[21:46:27] <Amanda> for kernel updates, I assume
L322[21:46:57] <Elfi> Kernel and updates for the bootloaders themselves
L323[21:48:18] <Forec​aster> https://i.imgur.com/bKyNUt5.gifv
L324[21:48:33] <dequbed> I only tried GRUB (both), rEFInd and systemd-boot so far and all of those require some kind of command to update the installation. gummiboot requires the comparatively least amount of work due to well defined autodiscover.
L325[21:49:17] <Klea​dron> good gif
L326[21:50:01] <Elfi> Weird, in my experience GRUB had hooks for updating the bootloader and its entries
L327[21:50:54] <bauen1> grub has hooks to update grub.conf, kernel and initrd ; at least on debian, less sure about updating the bootloader code e.g. in /boot/efi/grub or the bios install somewhere on disk
L328[21:51:00] <dequbed> Well it has two scripts you run, grub-mkconfig and grub-install but rEFInd has refind-install, systemd-boot has `bootctl install` and `bootctl upgrade`.
L329[21:51:02] <Elfi> I think it usually tried to avoid messing with any bootstrapping code unless there was a need to, but I thought it updated its own elf
L330[21:51:33] <dequbed> And configuring your package manager to run those on upgrades to the packages is usually the same deal.
L331[21:51:44] <dequbed> same deal for all three of those that is
L332[21:52:21] <Elfi> I mean... except that systemd-boot isn't a package, usually
L333[21:52:30] <dequbed> Well yes, it's part of systemd
L334[21:52:47] <dequbed> If your distribution splits up all parts of systemd or doesn't is down to that distros choice really.
L335[21:53:26] <Elfi> I really need to go shopping for a distro that does, it really feels overly monolithic at times
L336[21:53:52] <dequbed> And I don't mind it *not* doing so because keeping all parts in hard lock-step prevents quite a load of bugs and given modern hard drive sizes there's hardly a reason to split it up.
L337[21:54:08] <Elfi> I've had it crash and bring several other components down with it
L338[21:54:18] <Elfi> So idk about it preventing bugs myself
L339[21:54:37] <bauen1> Elfi: what parts of systemd are you using ?
L340[21:55:02] <Elfi> Heck if I recall atm, I'm in bed on my phone
L341[21:55:23] <dequbed> Well if a component so integral to your system such as systemd crashes that will always take down most of your computer. As far as that low infrastructure code goes systemd has a pretty decent crashing behaviour.
L342[21:55:58] <Elfi> When a trivial part of systemd brings the rest down with it, there's a problem
L343[21:56:20] <dequbed> I guess but I have never seen that happen myself. Systemd has pretty strong separation between its parts
L344[21:57:29] <dequbed> And I've seen systemd as in PID 1 crashing reasonably often! But compared to OpenRC dying systemd-init deaths are almost pleasant :P
L345[21:58:25] <Elfi> I guess
L346[21:58:35] <Elfi> I just like them not dying :P
L347[21:58:59] <dequbed> Definitely, we all do! But software will be software and that means bugs. Tons of bugs.
L348[22:00:09] <bauen1> systemd is just expanding, which is maybe good for some people, but it's giving me MacOS vibes and I don't really like it (i do like systemd as pid 1, networkd and journald, but that's where it ends)
L349[22:00:38] <Elfi> Yeah, I just like less ways for bugs to bring down unrelated software
L350[22:00:46] <Elfi> Simplify, simplify
L351[22:01:54] <dequbed> Elfi: Sadly, simplicity isn't a good solution anymore. Computers nowadays run increasingly complex software on increasingly complex hardware (which all in all is a *good* thing!) so we should go for a solid foundation that replaces just not doing something with doing something well-defined.
L352[22:02:59] <dequbed> bauen1: I mean yeah. Poettering does really like MacOS stuff but apparently really hates the implementation :P Then again MacOS is compared to Linux used significantly more in the Desktop-space and I do think the better foundation in MacOS is part of the reason for that.
L353[22:03:00] <Elfi> That's a whole rabbit hole I don't feel like going down rn, to be honest
L354[22:03:30] <dequbed> That's fine, I don't want to annoy you with tooling discussion either ^^
L355[22:04:45] <Elfi> As it is, I would really do with less of that complexity. My current VM issues are vexing and it's making me want to just move my host to an RPi4 or something
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L358[22:20:36] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L359[22:20:36] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Compan​ionCube! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 2 hours, 34 minutes and 40 seconds (By 1 hour and 30 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L360[22:20:37] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 4 hours, 4 minutes and 41 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.0045 (0.0015 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.08982 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L363[22:36:02] <ThePi​Guy24> man i really want to make an amiga mod tracker now
L364[22:36:20] <ThePi​Guy24> need to get my dfpwm implementation working now
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L366[23:22:54] <Inari> "home security is made simple by their wireless devices"
L367[23:23:00] <Inari> n-not sure I'd trust those to be secure
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