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L1[00:04:31] ⇨ Joins: tow_nater0 (webchat@153.33.108.21)
L2[00:05:30] <tow_nater0> Is this the opencomputers irc? Looking to report something that I don't think should be a public github issue
L3[00:06:29] <Inari> I mean
L4[00:06:32] <Inari> the topic does say so
L5[00:06:55] <tow_nater0> I suppose so 🤔
L6[00:07:09] <tow_nater0> Who are the maintainers that I can contact?
L7[00:08:06] <Izaya> payonel, but they're not here right now by the looks
L8[00:08:27] <Inari> what kind of bug anyway
L9[00:08:31] <tow_nater0> Oh cool just noticed there's a discord. I'll ask there
L10[00:08:38] <Izaya> that's the same as here
L11[00:08:40] <Izaya> %corded
L12[00:08:42] <MichiBot> Iz​aya: Cor​ded is a relay between IRC and Discord. The user talking is between the <>
L13[00:08:51] <tow_​nater> gotcha
L14[00:09:04] <tow_​nater> It's a server crashing lua script bug
L15[00:09:27] <tow_​nater> was looking for rce but this mod is honestly very well made
L16[00:16:01] <Amanda> Inari: rude
L17[00:16:52] <tow_​nater> wdym lol
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L20[00:19:58] <Izaya> ohey
L21[00:20:05] <Izaya> the file picker dialogs are sane on my phone now
L22[00:23:06] <bad at​ vijya> what?
L23[00:23:08] <bad at​ vijya> impossible
L24[00:24:59] <Michiyo> @tow_nater they were pinging another user, not addressing you. You can send me a DM on Discord I can get ahold of payonel directly if needed
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L26[00:25:45] <Mic​hiyo> And I'm actually on Discord now.
L27[00:27:28] <tow_​nater> Ok cool I just DM'd payonel but I can DM it to you too
L28[00:30:04] <Izaya> it's also remembered how to run the vibration motor
L29[00:30:23] <dequbed> It's still not waterproof though
L30[00:30:33] <Izaya> nope :|
L31[00:34:44] <Amanda> That's what baggies are for.
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L34[00:39:45] <Mic​hiyo> @tow_nater I've looped some folks in on the issue, so it's known by the right people. Thanks for the report!
L35[00:40:40] <tow_​nater> Happy to help
L36[00:41:13] <Amanda> Now all that's left is to dispose of the witnesses. Please stay where you are, @tow_nater
L37[00:42:10] <Amanda> %choose rain box now or later
L38[00:42:11] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I saw that "rain box now" is the best choice in a vision
L39[00:42:27] <tow_​nater> hahaha I knew I shouldn't have said anything
L40[00:42:54] <Amanda> Izaya: is it normal for the "Software" app to list nothing available and nothing installed?
L41[00:43:23] <i develo​p things> the software app is meh
L42[00:43:33] <i develo​p things> i haven't used it at all
L43[00:43:33] <Izaya> yeah GNOME Software only supports Fedora's packaging, basically
L44[00:47:13] <Amanda> Also I assume there's no way to stop it from booting from the sd card if it's bootable? Not that I'm complaining, since apparently the mobile-nixos default image doesn't work with a usb keyboard, and just drops you jntk a pty, so there was no way to interact with it.
L45[00:47:31] <i develo​p things> correct
L46[00:47:32] <Amanda> Drops you into*
L47[00:48:01] <Amanda> Good so I don't have to work about fucking that up
L48[00:48:12] <Amanda> Worry
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L50[01:06:55] <Amanda> Anyway I'm curious why it's installed if it's useleas
L51[01:08:49] <Izaya> support is planned™
L52[01:09:57] <Amanda> Also fun fact: pmOS doesn't like you dd
L53[01:10:08] <Amanda> 'ing out from under it it's entire fs
L54[01:10:28] <Amanda> at least, I assume that's why everything was segfaulting after I did that. :D
L55[01:10:52] <i develo​p things> hmmmmmm weird
L56[01:15:25] <Amanda> also the camera is very blue and wavy
L57[01:15:34] <i develo​p things> restart megapixels
L58[01:15:46] <i develo​p things> it only does that on first launch after boot which is weird
L59[01:16:36] <Amanda> it is no longer blue, but still waivy
L60[01:17:07] <i develo​p things> pictures are.... *decent8
L61[01:17:13] <i develo​p things> decent*
L62[01:17:27] <Amanda> I wouldn't know, t just crashed when I clicked the shutter button
L63[01:17:43] <i develo​p things> it does that sometimes
L64[01:30:22] <Izaya> unbelieveable
L65[01:30:31] <Izaya> tootle misimplements the mastodon API
L66[01:30:47] <Izaya> and that means it doesn't work with pleroma
L67[01:35:49] <Izaya> ayy I managed to merge the fixes by re-implementing the myasstodon API properly
L68[01:37:58] <Izaya> IT WORKS
L69[01:38:00] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/notice/A3unVl4tIxmMkOnQG0
L70[01:38:56] <bad at​ vijya> RTG crashes the game if you make a superflat world
L71[01:38:58] <bad at​ vijya> amazing
L72[01:39:31] <bad at​ vijya> dequbed: https://tinyurl.com/y3p3tmku
L73[02:00:44] <Shuud​oushi> https://tinyurl.com/y2gq35sk
L74[02:00:59] <Shuud​oushi> This pissed me off...
L75[02:01:31] <Izaya> warnings but no errors
L76[02:01:33] <Izaya> B)
L77[02:02:08] <Shuud​oushi> No, the "error" was that i put "cost", not "costs"...
L78[02:02:32] <Shuud​oushi> WE DON'T SAY "COSTS" WHERE IM FROM!!!
L79[02:05:40] <Izaya> okay so this thing is very special
L80[02:05:53] <Izaya> I'm not sure how to post an array as form data
L81[02:06:30] <Izaya> but I'm confident it's meant to be posted as form data
L82[02:08:43] <Amanda> @Shuudoushi where is that? That'd be "costs" here, I think? eastern PA
L83[02:09:48] <Amanda> "The milk cost two euros" sounds wrong
L84[02:10:43] <Amanda> at least in present-tense
L85[02:11:04] <Shuud​oushi> Amanda: the southeast
L86[02:11:25] <Amanda> past-tense "cost" makes sense, present/future it doesn't
L87[02:19:45] <Izaya> heyyy
L88[02:19:47] <Izaya> even got fuckin
L89[02:19:52] <Izaya> media posting working
L90[02:19:55] <Izaya> god I'm good
L91[02:21:24] <Amanda> `koreader (no such package):` sad
L92[02:21:26] <bad at​ vijya> currently planning out the funny grid resource transport network system
L93[02:21:27] <bad at​ vijya> :)
L94[02:23:58] <Amanda> oh hey. the software app works now that I did an `apk update`
L95[02:24:28] <bad at​ vijya> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441228228162748417/806093501182771200/video0-30-1.mp4
L96[02:24:51] <Amanda> oh. never mind, it's only showing the installed apps
L97[02:34:05] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L98[02:34:05] <MichiBot> Uh-oh! Compan​ionCube! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 31 minutes and 52 seconds (By 31 minutes and 10 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L99[02:34:06] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.004 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.28711, Position #2 Need 0.11128 more points to pass Va​ur!
L100[02:39:06] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/xmpp/upload/c_tSneWU-Fac7XrX/20210204_13h22m41s_grim.png
L101[02:39:14] <Izaya> it lives
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L103[02:42:44] <Ariri> I thought you uploaded the screenshot you took within the screenshot for a second (or 40)
L104[03:10:41] <Amanda> %splash ariri with mutable green potion
L105[03:10:41] <MichiBot> You fling a mutable green potion (New!) that splashes onto ariri. ariri turns into a honey cat girl until they recite the litany against fear.
L106[03:11:16] * Amanda advises ariri to stay away from Inari, she keeps stealing honey
L107[03:11:29] * Amanda tucks in around Elfi, zzzmews
L108[03:11:33] <Amanda> Night nerds
L109[03:12:02] * Ariri tries to wave Amanda good night, but finds their hand stuck to their cheek
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L115[05:25:21] <Izaya> anyone got Minecraft + OC open?
L116[05:25:46] <Izaya> I wish to know how https://w1r3.net/yMSskM.txt looks from within OC
L117[05:27:09] <Shuud​oushi> %tonk
L118[05:27:10] <MichiBot> Awesome! Shuud​oushi! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 53 minutes and 4 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L119[05:27:11] <MichiBot> Shuudoushi's new record is 2 hours, 53 minutes and 4 seconds! Shuudoushi also gained 0.00288 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #8 => #7. (Overtook dequbed) Need 0.00244 more points to pass Squi​dDev!
L120[05:46:47] <Michiyo> Izaya, still want to know?
L121[05:48:19] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/iisCBjGRs72TikK
L122[06:00:08] <Izaya> beautiful
L123[06:00:11] <Izaya> thanks
L124[06:04:59] <Michiyo> Np
L125[06:19:47] <minas_tirith> %sip
L126[06:19:48] <MichiBot> You drink a sour electrum potion (New!). minas_tirith has a single tear roll down their cheek for some reason.
L127[06:21:26] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: it's cursed https://tinyurl.com/y5ahrxer
L128[06:21:31] <bad at​ vijya> actually lemme upload this elsewhere
L129[06:22:04] <Michiyo> I'm rebuilding Chernobyl.. again
L130[06:22:17] <bad at​ vijya> https://0x0.st/-o04.png
L131[06:22:26] <bad at​ vijya> there we go
L132[06:22:36] <bad at​ vijya> anyways, mega fuckin cursed shit for the fluid fuckery
L133[06:22:44] <Izaya> what... what is that
L134[06:23:23] <bad at​ vijya> fluid routing
L135[06:23:37] <Shuud​oushi> Oof... Rip the reactor rooms... Again...
L136[06:23:39] <minas_tirith> Fluids are very complex
L137[06:24:04] <Michiyo> @Shuudoushi sadly the last time I used the world was 1.10, loading up in the 1.12 pack was...
L138[06:24:05] <Michiyo> bad
L139[06:24:08] <Michiyo> very bad.
L140[06:24:22] <Shuud​oushi> I can only imagine...
L141[06:24:55] <Shuud​oushi> Oh shit... I wonder how bad "the silo" got...
L142[06:25:08] <Michiyo> ?
L143[06:25:37] <bad at​ vijya> wtf
L144[06:25:40] <bad at​ vijya> how is curl segfaulting
L145[06:25:41] <Shuud​oushi> That small base i built on the chernobyl sister world
L146[06:25:59] <Michiyo> Ah... no idea.
L147[06:26:07] <Shuud​oushi> Because fuck you
L148[06:26:40] <Shuud​oushi> Michiyo: what version even was that? Like 1.7.something?
L149[06:27:07] <Michiyo> 1.7 or 1.9
L150[06:28:03] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: https://0x0.st/-o0x.png https://0x0.st/-o03.png
L151[06:28:17] <Shuud​oushi> I remember rail crafts retarded ass bullshit invisible blocks for the trails breaking so much shit...
L152[06:30:44] <bad at​ vijya> so Izaya, how do you like it?
L153[06:31:00] <Izaya> ever seen those pictures of like
L154[06:31:05] <Izaya> the control systems of chernobyl?
L155[06:31:21] <bad at​ vijya> this makes those look good
L156[06:31:38] <Michiyo> I may, or may not have extensively researched Chernobyl...
L157[06:31:40] <Michiyo> lol
L158[06:31:55] <bad at​ vijya> i remember back in the 1.7 days
L159[06:32:00] <Izaya> SpaceX stuck another landing, by the way
L160[06:32:02] <bad at​ vijya> my friend made my reactor melt down
L161[06:32:07] <bad at​ vijya> on accident
L162[06:32:16] <bad at​ vijya> he didn't tell me he broke a fluiduct
L163[06:32:36] <Izaya> the stream had a new animation thingo
L164[06:32:40] <bad at​ vijya> anyways
L165[06:32:45] <Izaya> but the rocket texture was wigging out
L166[06:32:51] <bad at​ vijya> this fluid routing system is gonna need uh
L167[06:32:53] <bad at​ vijya> lots of work
L168[06:32:59] <bad at​ vijya> and i somehow have to make it so robots can build it
L169[06:33:01] <Izaya> I had a cursed idea
L170[06:33:03] <Izaya> right
L171[06:33:04] <bad at​ vijya> so that's a yikes
L172[06:33:15] <Izaya> what if you did uh
L173[06:33:19] <bad at​ vijya> yes, izzy?
L174[06:33:22] <Izaya> like, AND gates but pipes
L175[06:33:34] <Izaya> you could fit two inputs onto each pipe
L176[06:33:41] <bad at​ vijya> honestly
L177[06:33:45] <Izaya> and control the whole system with less inputs
L178[06:33:48] <bad at​ vijya> i really need to
L179[06:33:51] <bad at​ vijya> eventually
L180[06:33:52] <bad at​ vijya> for real
L181[06:33:54] <bad at​ vijya> make my own tech mod
L182[06:34:00] <Izaya> uh huh
L183[06:34:19] <bad at​ vijya> uh huh
L184[06:34:45] <bad at​ vijya> needs fancy pipe stuff, electricity stuff, power plant stuff, etc
L185[06:34:58] <Izaya> I had plans for a mod once
L186[06:35:07] <Izaya> now I have plans for a minetest subgame
L187[06:35:09] <Izaya> B)
L188[06:35:44] <bad at​ vijya> yeah well
L189[06:35:50] <bad at​ vijya> i like some things about minecraft
L190[06:36:06] <bad at​ vijya> i'm also apparently masochistic
L191[06:36:10] <bad at​ vijya> seeing as i'm working on FoxFS
L192[06:38:16] <bad at​ vijya> i will once again use this video
L193[06:38:17] <bad at​ vijya> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441228228162748417/806093501182771200/video0-30-1.mp4
L194[06:38:21] <bad at​ vijya> ^ foxfs rn
L195[06:39:10] <Izaya> this is your hard drive on foxfs https://social.shadowkat.net/media/c7f92ab71e5107800ad5e3ab1e020871df9c981fb205b62cadcf293828b0c6c2.webm
L196[06:42:20] <bad at​ vijya> i don't hear the heads slamming into the center and then the outside faster than my last two remaining braincells bounce around my head
L197[06:42:45] <Izaya> you sure? that thing's clicking at 5000 RPM
L198[06:57:26] <Michiyo> @Shuudoushi https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/r82ZNG6AmJm2bm6
L199[06:57:32] <Michiyo> This is what happened to one of the turbine sets
L200[06:58:06] <Michiyo> the whole thing is shulker boxes and other stuff, but they don't all draw until you get close enough and your cursor passes over them
L201[06:58:11] <Ariri> Is that terracotta?
L202[06:58:28] <Michiyo> The red and black parts are Shulker Boxes
L203[06:58:47] <Michiyo> there is some terracotta inside it
L204[06:59:01] <Michiyo> Actually the blades and the axel are terracotta
L205[06:59:33] <Ariri> Is this what happened after an update? I'm still processing the backlog (mentally)
L206[06:59:52] <Michiyo> Yeah this world was last used in like 1.9/1.10 at the latest
L207[07:00:06] <Michiyo> So it's fairly old AND from a prior mod pack.. lol
L208[07:00:17] <Ariri> Ah
L209[07:00:42] <Ariri> >has also researched Chernobyl and wants to make some wicked reactor setups in NuclearCraft
L210[07:01:13] <Michiyo> http://exalted.asuscomm.com:8123/?worldname=Pripyat&mapname=flat&zoom=3&x=229&y=64&z=885
L211[07:01:15] <Ariri> Might even make my own Chernobyl with OC and do it right
L212[07:03:31] <Ariri> Woah
L213[07:04:30] <Ariri> That's cool
L214[07:04:34] <Michiyo> I think I'm about to swap it back... with the other version... I just realized how much more I liked the previous world.
L215[07:04:35] <Michiyo> lol
L216[07:04:52] <Michiyo> If you ever want to come check it out let me know.
L217[07:05:23] <Ariri> I can see some of the detail with just the map.. you betcha I want to check it out some time
L218[07:05:39] <Michiyo> #pcl-minecraft
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L223[09:18:29] <Va​ur> %tonk
L224[09:18:29] <MichiBot> Yikes! Va​ur! You beat Shuud​oushi's previous record of 2 hours, 53 minutes and 4 seconds (By 58 minutes and 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L225[09:18:30] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 3 hours, 51 minutes and 19 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00291 (0.00097 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
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L227[09:42:56] <ThePi​Guy24> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODt6pT6hWhU https://tinyurl.com/y589qc44
L228[10:08:56] <Forec​aster> what the...
L229[10:09:39] <Forec​aster> why does the galaxy map display distances to star systems in light-years, but the interface for the interstellar port uses astronomical units...
L230[10:09:44] <Forec​aster> pick one! D:<
L231[10:25:15] <ThePi​Guy24> been doing some neat stuff in c on my pinephone :p https://tinyurl.com/y4kwrol4
L232[10:26:14] <ThePi​Guy24> with some nice wonky integer maths too :p
L233[10:28:30] <ThePi​Guy24> and its just pegging one core
L234[11:24:51] <Forec​aster> only 140 structure points left until I have a complete ring
L235[11:38:17] <Forec​aster> then I'm going to have to set up gravity matrix production so I can upgrade the stress system to build the other layers
L236[11:45:51] <B​ob> is this ibniz ?
L237[11:51:11] <ThePi​Guy24> no
L238[11:51:26] <ThePi​Guy24> but this effect is quite commonly done in ibniz
L239[11:56:38] <Forec​aster> the ring is complete! :D
L240[11:56:55] <Forec​aster> 24 nodes producing 251 MW
L241[11:57:51] <ThePi​Guy24> uses https://github.com/cntools/rawdraw
L242[11:57:56] <ThePi​Guy24> because its a nice lib
L243[12:00:01] <Izaya> so
L244[12:00:24] <Izaya> tootle enforces a 500 character limit on posts
L245[12:00:56] <Izaya> it'll refuse to post anything over 500 chars ignoring server settings
L246[12:00:58] <Izaya> neat
L247[12:13:25] <ThePi​Guy24> char is the correct datatype to store high precision decimals, right? ;p
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L253[13:00:01] * Amanda yawns, streeeetches
L254[13:00:06] <Amanda> meowning
L255[13:00:42] <Izaya> heyo
L256[13:02:16] <Amanda> o/ Izaya
L257[13:02:20] <Amanda> How're you doing this day?
L258[13:02:32] <Izaya> I'm on a roll tbh
L259[13:02:46] <Izaya> been abusing software to act like I want it to
L260[13:02:58] <Amanda> haha
L261[13:03:05] <Izaya> with some luck once libhandy compiles I'll have stopped it mangling avatars into circles
L262[13:04:32] <Izaya> programing: commenting out code you don't like
L263[13:04:42] <Izaya> Amanda: https://neckbeard.xyz/media/5dd68b3335b8f4ff00d2c0e12b93d307c1cbac4c9e29ddb9643c3e6b16df9194.jpg
L264[13:05:07] <Amanda> haha
L265[13:10:37] <ThePi​Guy24> clockhounds
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L270[13:54:57] <Izaya> https://www.pine64.org/2021/02/02/the-end-of-community-editions/
L271[13:55:04] <Izaya> I'm only 3 days late lmao
L272[13:58:10] <ThePi​Guy24> f
L273[13:58:38] <ThePi​Guy24> good job i got one in time :p
L274[13:59:09] <Izaya> https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=10224&pid=68604#pid68604
L275[13:59:20] <Izaya> looks like other people have had the same idea I did
L276[13:59:53] <Forec​aster> https://youtu.be/X6NJkWbM1xk
L277[13:59:54] <MichiBot> The Worst Typo I Ever Made | length: 11m 25s | Likes: 158,448 Dislikes: 1,629 Views: 2,928,788 | by Tom Scott | Published On 1/6/2020
L278[14:08:26] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L279[14:08:28] <MichiBot> Zoinks! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 3 hours, 51 minutes and 19 seconds (By 58 minutes and 38 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L280[14:08:29] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 4 hours, 49 minutes and 58 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00392 (0.00098 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.01684 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L281[14:12:26] <Amanda> @Forecaster @MGR do either of you know if spinniform stalagmite crystals are good for anything other than carbon nanotubes?
L282[14:12:41] <M​GR> Not that I'm aware of, but I haven't finished the game yet
L283[14:13:13] <Forec​aster> that's all I use them for currently
L284[14:42:12] <Shuud​oushi> Michiyo: just saw the screenshot of the old turbines... Oof...
L285[15:25:53] <Forec​aster> huh, interesting
L286[15:26:16] <Forec​aster> if you turn off output on a tank above in a stack it stops outputting down into lower tanks
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L288[16:06:06] <dequbed> @"bad at vijya" should be fixed (tm)
L289[16:11:25] <Forec​aster> hrm
L290[16:11:33] <Forec​aster> this planet seems to wobble a lot...
L291[16:12:43] <Forec​aster> but the movement of the sun isn't aligned with that circle I just noticed...
L292[16:34:02] <Va​ur> %sip
L293[16:34:02] <MichiBot> You drink a light dilithium potion (New!). Vaur's favourite skin is suddenly on fire.
L294[16:34:17] <Forec​aster> seriously
L295[16:34:23] <Forec​aster> you need to invest in fireproofing
L296[16:34:37] <Va​ur> this is fine
L297[16:35:07] <Brisingr​Aerowing> It seems that MichiBot has it out for Vaur.
L298[16:49:26] <ThePi​Guy24> why do all the mc modding guides reccomend eclipse
L299[16:49:58] <ThePi​Guy24> i think imma go the "no fuck you" route and go for vscode
L300[16:50:09] <ThePi​Guy24> even though it really is not optimised for java whatsoever
L301[16:50:17] <Optional o​pt = null;> I recommend intellij
L302[17:03:54] <ThePi​Guy24> vscode it is then
L303[17:06:15] <SquidDev> Be curious to hear how it goes. Last time I tried it was not a fun experience.
L304[17:12:55] <ThePi​Guy24> i just dont like IDE's
L305[17:13:16] <ThePi​Guy24> they are too heavy and too "smart"
L306[17:17:40] <SquidDev> I've spent far too long trying to be smart, I'd rather an editor did it for me :p.
L307[17:27:38] <Ariri> TPG24, I like Atom as a toned-down VScode, because people still make intellisense things for it
L308[17:28:18] <ThePi​Guy24> still too much smarts
L309[17:28:31] <ThePi​Guy24> i want to make the bugs, not the editor
L310[17:29:00] <Ariri> I was implying that i's optional
L311[17:29:03] <Ariri> it's*
L312[17:29:19] <Ariri> It's very simple and light by default
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L317[18:05:33] <Izaya> you act like these web browsers are text editors
L318[18:05:36] <Izaya> strange
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L321[18:18:04] <ThePi​Guy24> ok it appears that forge did a "go fuck yourself" and made it confusing to use without eclipse or intellij
L322[18:26:02] <ThePi​Guy24> it tells you to `gradlew setupDecompWorkspace` but that just doesnt exist anymore
L323[18:26:56] <Forec​aster> yes it does
L324[18:27:11] <Forec​aster> at least in 1.12
L325[18:27:16] <SquidDev> Not on FG 3 I don't think.
L326[18:27:42] <SquidDev> As long as your editor supports Gradle just importing things should work fine.
L327[18:28:27] <ThePi​Guy24> why should i have to use an editor that supports gradle
L328[18:28:41] <SquidDev> Well, you don't have to. Only if you want autocompletion I guess.
L329[18:28:44] <ThePi​Guy24> why cant i just use a normal sane text editor
L330[18:28:58] <SquidDev> Everything else can just be done through `./gradlew runClient`, etc...
L331[18:29:15] <SquidDev> I think FG has a task to generate run configs which wrap those - can't quite remember.
L332[18:29:19] <ThePi​Guy24> how tf do i do the decompilation step though
L333[18:30:19] <SquidDev> I think build just does that by default now?
L334[18:31:44] <SquidDev> (well, or assemble, compileJava, etc...)
L335[18:31:50] <ThePi​Guy24> sounds like a step backwards but ok
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L338[18:36:22] <SquidDev> Yeah, it all hooks into Gradle repositories now, so it's just on demand like everything else in Gradle is. It makes a fair amount of sense.
L339[18:36:40] <SquidDev> Though does involve prodding around with Gradle internals, as (older versions of) Gradle weren't really designed for this.
L340[18:39:06] <ThePi​Guy24> oh nice https://forgegradle.readthedocs.io/en/latest/cookbook/ doesnt exist anymore
L341[18:39:12] <ThePi​Guy24> f u n
L342[18:39:58] <Sagh​etti> sup nerds
L343[18:40:11] <Sagh​etti> trying to install proxmox on my server
L344[18:40:20] <Sagh​etti> this is going to either work or fail spectacularly
L345[18:40:26] <Sagh​etti> nothing in between
L346[18:40:40] <Forec​aster> why not both
L347[18:40:51] <Sagh​etti> no
L348[18:43:38] <ThePi​Guy24> so yeah it seems that the 1.12 docs are fucked
L349[18:43:52] <ThePi​Guy24> time to follow the 1.15 docs and have everything break
L350[18:45:58] <bad at​ vijya> wait
L351[18:46:02] <bad at​ vijya> there was docs to begin with?
L352[18:46:16] <bad at​ vijya> also why are they so hellbent on erasing docs from existance?
L353[18:46:52] <Sagh​etti> aaaaand https://tinyurl.com/y6ghfotp
L354[18:47:05] <Sagh​etti> this feels so wrong but at the same time i have a backup on a different drive
L355[18:47:12] <Sagh​etti> (that different drive is on the same server)
L356[18:47:23] <Sagh​etti> meaning if i accidentally format the wrong one, i lose all of my old data
L357[18:47:32] <SquidDev> @bad at vijya Because they're all wrong post FG 3. Or FG 4 nowadays I guess.
L358[18:47:34] <Sagh​etti> not that i should need it, but in case things go bad, i have a backup
L359[18:48:28] <ThePi​Guy24> they could just, y'know, update the docs or redirect to the correct docs...
L360[18:48:51] <bad at​ vijya> i didn't realize docs existed tbh
L361[18:49:29] <SquidDev> I mean the docs now are meant to be "it just works (TM)". Aside from generating run configs I guess.
L362[18:50:12] <bad at​ vijya> i wanna get a tape drive for those Long Term Backups™️
L363[18:51:15] <ThePi​Guy24> i fucking hate "it just works" (not even talking about in regards to bethesda here) because when something is meant to work and has no other way of making it work, it never fucking does
L364[18:51:33] <ThePi​Guy24> i see zero fucking reason why they do it this way
L365[18:51:58] <bad at​ vijya> ^ this tbh
L366[19:00:48] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L367[19:00:49] <MichiBot> Eh! Compan​ionCube! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 4 hours, 49 minutes and 58 seconds (By 2 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L368[19:00:50] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 4 hours, 52 minutes and 21 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.0002 (0.00004 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.11399 more points to pass Va​ur!
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L372[20:41:19] <Va​ur> %sip
L373[20:41:19] <MichiBot> You drink a seeping blue potion (New!). 4 nearby pebbles suddenly shift slightly in Vaur's direction.
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L376[21:14:40] <t20kdc> ThePiGuy24: I agree, I have had... interesting experiences with stuff that is meant to "just work" but has no manual override whatsoever
L377[21:15:35] <t20kdc> ...or it's buried in a closet in some flooded basement behind a locked door with a sign marked "beware of the leopard" or something (see: any time a CMake build script fails to find a dependency you have)
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L380[22:49:28] <Izaya> > druaga1 red star OS video
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L383[23:04:36] <Ariri> Can I compress a file with 7zip, without using an actual zip folder? I just want to shrink down a video
L384[23:04:45] <Ariri> But still have it be an mp4
L385[23:07:41] <Izaya> probably won't help significantly
L386[23:17:24] <Elfi> Yeah, unless you know the video's uncompressed, it isn't gonna do squat
L387[23:22:40] <Ariri> :/
L388[23:22:59] <Ariri> Found something online to do it for now anyways, did what I needed
L389[23:26:17] * Amanda makes ariri upload her embarrassing secrets to her fedi profile using the rootkit that was hidden in the tool she used
L390[23:27:29] <Ariri> Here I was having a good day until everybody found out that I pour cereal in my milk
L391[23:27:30] <Amanda> %tell Inari hey! Why didn't you tell me world trigger for a second season this season!? And remind me what world trigger is.
L392[23:27:31] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L393[23:36:43] <Amanda> Ariri: doesn't everyone, once you've finished the first serving, that is.
L394[23:37:43] <Izaya> cereal is what you make bread out of right
L395[23:38:44] <i develo​p things> ....not breakfast cereal
L396[23:41:33] <Ariri> True I suppose, but I couldn't think of something stupid
L397[23:41:44] <Ariri> Surprising, considering I'm me, I know
L398[23:42:21] <Amanda> The artist always has trouble when put on the spot!
L399[23:43:29] <Ariri> %pat Amanda
L400[23:43:34] <Ariri> %pet Amanda
L401[23:43:34] <MichiBot> Ariri is brushing Amanda with a Magic Magic attempt to index nil value! (25%)! (25%). Amanda regains 1d8 => 2 (Magic +2) => 4 hit points!
L402[23:44:20] <Amanda> %choose radiation; en or jp
L403[23:44:20] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: jp radiation
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