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L1[00:10:13] <Vampyre> Kristo​pher38, interesting indeed, but I have a slightly different idea here
L2[00:11:03] <Vampyre> idea I have now is to get a shared memroy framebuffer between java and a modified sdl lib and have the sdl lib put it's framebuffer on an OC monitor
L3[00:11:32] <Vampyre> then it should just be a matter of replacing the sdl lib of $program and run it's output on OC
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L5[00:45:05] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://imgur.com/gallery/7Zfge7o
L6[00:45:21] <i develo​p things> yikes
L7[00:45:38] <Shuud​oushi> Meth heads man
L8[00:46:03] <superminor2> Back from the dead again Shuu???
L9[00:46:18] <Brisingr​Aerowing> That person had a very shocking experience.
L10[00:47:26] <Shuud​oushi> Superminor2 for now. Trying to work on SecureOS again, thanks for adding the message to github btw, I kinda lost my login details and two factor was being a cunt...
L11[00:48:13] <superminor2> No problem! I didn't want people to keep asking about issues with it until it was actually being worked on again :)
L12[00:48:48] <Shuud​oushi> Lol, I feel ya. I saw a few of the issues people posted, some of it is really dumb shit lol
L13[00:56:56] <Michiyo> If you get it working again I'll add it back to OpenSecurity
L14[00:57:06] <Michiyo> I pulled the floppy because it was generating issues lol
L15[01:09:52] <Shuud​oushi> Lol, yeah, I went through and looked at the issues, can't say I blame you for pulling it XD
L16[01:13:56] <Michiyo> Let me know if/when you fix it, I'll gladly add it back
L17[01:14:19] <Michiyo> I would have tried but it's way beyond my ability with Lua, and I don't need yet another language kicking around up here
L18[01:14:35] <B​ob> 👀
L19[01:26:31] <Shuud​oushi> Michiyo: lol, will do. Progress gonna be slow af tho. Got a regular job and shit tier hardware to fight.
L20[01:26:46] <Izaya> install ocvm
L21[01:27:30] <Shuud​oushi> Oh shit, it is finally stable™?
L22[01:27:36] <i develo​p things> yes
L23[01:27:39] <i develo​p things> i use it quite a lot
L24[01:28:06] <Izaya> good to see you're still alive by the way
L25[01:28:29] <Shuud​oushi> Thanks
L26[01:29:04] <Shuud​oushi> Just got a few new scars and a couple more unhealthy cooping mechanisms
L27[01:32:20] <Michiyo> Wish I knew what happened to Human...
L28[01:32:41] <Shuud​oushi> He's still mia?
L29[01:32:52] <Michiyo> Yeah, not seen him in years
L30[01:33:06] <Shuud​oushi> Damn, hope he's alright
L31[01:33:12] <Michiyo> Yeah
L32[01:33:16] <Michiyo> Same...
L33[01:34:10] <Shuud​oushi> What about tin?
L34[01:34:44] <Shuud​oushi> That violin playing squeeker still kicking about?
L35[01:35:06] <Michiyo> 2018?
L36[01:35:11] <Michiyo> yeah looks like 2018..
L37[01:35:15] <Michiyo> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/search?chan=oc&case=1&search=tiin57
L38[01:35:25] <Shuud​oushi> Actual, come to think of it, I don't think he'd be a squeeker now lol
L39[01:37:45] <Shuud​oushi> Ah fuck, I got to build ocvm... I'll use the shop computer for that >.>
L40[01:38:30] <i develo​p things> it doesn't take that long even on an ARM-based laptop, surely it can't be that bad?
L41[01:39:06] <Shuud​oushi> Lenovo x130e
L42[01:39:15] <Michiyo> is ocvm 100% terminal?
L43[01:39:32] <Shuud​oushi> It's a pile of shit I use for tuning cars XD
L44[01:39:34] <Michiyo> like no need for x?
L45[01:39:50] <i develo​p things> yes
L46[01:39:50] <i develo​p things> purely vt100
L47[01:39:53] <Amanda> Michiyo: yup
L48[01:39:55] <Michiyo> @Shuudoushi could always build it on one of my servers and give you shell :P
L49[01:40:02] <Izaya> we had those when I was working at school
L50[01:40:17] <Izaya> I was using an S10e, the ones that we got before those.
L51[01:40:28] <Michiyo> I still have an s10e sitting in a bag somewhere
L52[01:40:35] <Izaya> celery is better than an atom
L53[01:40:37] <Michiyo> screen shattered and I never gave enough fucks to fix it :p
L54[01:40:43] <Izaya> understandable
L55[01:40:52] <i develo​p things> core i3 2367M @Shuudoushi ?
L56[01:41:00] <i develo​p things> should still be at least as fast as my Rockchip
L57[01:41:13] <Izaya> I have half a dozen S10es in a pile under my desk
L58[01:42:01] <Shuud​oushi> @i develop things and a10 apu
L59[01:42:07] <i develo​p things> ah
L60[01:42:07] <superminor2> Doesn't everyone hoard computers? I can't even count how many I have sitting around
L61[01:42:13] <Michiyo> ^^^^
L62[01:42:14] <Michiyo> lol
L63[01:42:21] <Izaya> side note
L64[01:42:24] <i develo​p things> that's still probably faster than my Rockchip RK3399, except maybe for multi-threaded stuff
L65[01:42:30] <Izaya> anyone know any SFF cases suitable for Slot 1 machines?
L66[01:42:44] <Shuud​oushi> I've blown up 6 motherboards trying to get a running system >.>
L67[01:43:21] <Shuud​oushi> Turns out a protection diode on the video card I was using gave the ghost and back fed 12v to the 5v rail...
L68[01:43:34] <i develo​p things> oh
L69[01:43:35] <i develo​p things> ouch
L70[01:45:52] <Izaya> https://assets.merveilles.town/media_attachments/files/105/494/845/745/364/641/original/4dfbfebd457ea471.png
L71[01:48:24] <Michiyo> Ok, so I built it, I run ./ocvm and it drops me back to my terminal
L72[01:48:38] <Izaya> ls tmp
L73[01:48:39] <Izaya> cat tmp/log
L74[01:49:01] <Izaya> IIRC it defaults to tmp as the instance name
L75[01:49:19] <Michiyo> ahh
L76[01:49:19] <Michiyo> filesystem: loot disk not found: /root/ocvm/system/loot/openos
L77[01:49:20] <Michiyo> failed to initialize: filesystem
L78[01:49:22] <Izaya> if you don't have svn installed it won't be able to clone the OpenOS disk from the OC repo
L79[01:49:41] <Michiyo> svn...? wow ok
L80[01:50:02] <Michiyo> installing subversion then
L81[01:50:23] <Michiyo> Ok, subversion installed, same error.
L82[01:50:36] <Izaya> you have to rebuild for it to clone it
L83[01:50:40] <Izaya> or manually put the thingo in there
L84[01:50:41] <i develo​p things> gotta run `make sources` or smth
L85[01:50:52] <Michiyo> yeah, just read that
L86[01:50:53] <Michiyo> remaking
L87[01:50:53] <superminor2> svn? interesting choice
L88[01:51:23] <Izaya> IIRC it allows checking out a part of a git repo without cloning the whole thing or something
L89[01:51:41] <Michiyo> ...
L90[01:51:42] <Michiyo> ffs
L91[01:52:43] <Michiyo> Ok, I have the stuff in system 'bios.lua', 'font.hex', and 'machine.lua' yet still bitching about failed to initialize the filesystem
L92[01:53:21] <Kristo​pher38> Are those in the correct folder?
L93[01:53:33] <Izaya> make clean; make
L94[01:53:43] <Michiyo> just did that Izaya but I'll try again
L95[01:53:51] <Izaya> o-oh
L96[01:54:30] <Izaya> https://i.redd.it/mte7ngtob6r21.png
L97[01:54:55] <Shuud​oushi> While she fights with that, I'm having to relearn fuckin' ubuntu cmd line...
L98[01:55:00] <Michiyo> https://iili.io/ICnxR.png
L99[01:55:06] <Izaya> yup
L100[01:55:19] <Izaya> ready saved t hat one :p
L101[01:55:26] <Michiyo> Was just sharing with the class lol
L102[01:55:44] <Izaya> https://www.artstation.com/artwork/VOElb
L103[01:55:55] <Izaya> looks like it's a render
L104[01:56:05] <Izaya> or
L105[01:56:10] <Izaya> there's an accompanying render
L106[01:56:12] <Shuud​oushi> Ok, figured it out, it's only slightly different from powershell lol
L107[01:56:43] <Michiyo> ok, I'm going to try to build this as shuu and see if it works better on his account :P
L108[01:56:48] <Shuud​oushi> sighs I feel a bit like a fucking noob again
L109[01:57:22] <Michiyo> wait wait wait... fuckin.. wait
L110[01:57:23] <Michiyo> what
L111[01:57:33] <Michiyo> command -v svn && svn checkout https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/trunk/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot system/loot || echo "\n\e[36;1mwarning: svn not found. The build will continue, you can manually prepare \`.system/\`\e[m\n"
L112[01:57:44] <Izaya> I should get out one of said S10es
L113[01:57:50] <Izaya> boot up Haiku and install ocvm
L114[01:58:11] <Izaya> actually, two S10es would give me two extra readouts when playing KSP
L115[01:58:12] <Michiyo> @Shuudoushi cd ocvm then ./ocvm
L116[01:58:13] <Kristo​pher38> I think you can manually wget some of the required stuff
L117[01:58:13] <Izaya> hmhm
L118[01:58:32] <Kristo​pher38> At least that was what I did when I first set up ocvm
L119[01:58:45] <Michiyo> it worked.. the "error" was just an echo lmao
L120[01:58:56] <Michiyo> Now.. how the fuck do I exit this lmao
L121[01:59:02] <Izaya> escape
L122[01:59:02] <i develo​p things> escape
L123[01:59:06] <i develo​p things> to escape it
L124[01:59:08] <Michiyo> ah of course.
L125[01:59:09] <i develo​p things> y'know
L126[01:59:11] <Izaya> run escape
L127[01:59:21] <Michiyo> there ya go @"Shuudoushi" that's OCVM with lua 5.2
L128[01:59:46] <Amanda> Escape.. flee. They're right behind you.
L129[01:59:50] <Michiyo> if you need 5.3 just `make clean;make lua=5.3` in the ocvm directory
L130[02:00:30] <Shuud​oushi> Copy, I will likely switch it as 5.3 is the default version for OC it seems
L131[02:00:50] <Izaya> 5.4 support sometimes™
L132[02:00:52] <B​ob> 5.3 is cool
L133[02:00:57] <B​ob> 5.4 👀
L134[02:00:57] <Michiyo> Just did that for you then lol
L135[02:01:23] <Shuud​oushi> Completely booted me from the shell too XD
L136[02:01:32] <Michiyo> lmao
L137[02:01:41] <Michiyo> build finished enjoy :P
L138[02:01:56] <Shuud​oushi> I'm making a bash file for getting on that shell, fuck that password XD
L139[02:02:06] <Michiyo> just run passwd
L140[02:02:15] <Michiyo> :P
L141[02:02:42] <Amanda> For shame, you should be using a ssh key! :P
L142[02:03:37] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L143[02:04:19] <Michiyo> huh.. load is high on this server though CPU usage is low... annoying. likely means something fucky with iowait
L144[02:04:33] <Michiyo> (and by low I mean all cores are 0.4% and lower)
L145[02:04:57] <Shuud​oushi> Oh boy... I also get to remember how to transfer files back and forth via cmd line...
L146[02:04:58] <Michiyo> 10.03 on a 6 core is... annoying
L147[02:05:25] <Izaya> still got weird scheduling stuff going on on my desktop
L148[02:05:39] <Izaya> cores 4-7 end up with all the idle load, 0-3 don't get used
L149[02:06:12] <Izaya> normally I'd blame HT-aware weirdness but that's cores 1,3,5,7 not 4-7
L150[02:06:38] <Michiyo> Bah, I really don't wanna setup sharex again
L151[02:06:39] <Michiyo> q_q
L152[02:07:19] <Shuud​oushi> Wait, ubuntu server does come with it?
L153[02:07:38] <Shuud​oushi> Where the fuck did it come from on my old desktop then!?
L154[02:07:56] <Michiyo> que?
L155[02:08:14] <Shuud​oushi> Izaya resocket CPU and clear cmos, hope for the best?
L156[02:08:30] <Izaya> it's only since I'm using a tkg-pds kernel
L157[02:08:44] <Izaya> though I do need to resocket my processor at some point so hopefully I can use the other two memory slots _x
L158[02:08:47] <Izaya> x-x
L159[02:08:48] <Shuud​oushi> Then just clear cmos?
L160[02:08:58] <Izaya> then I'd lose all my OC settings :<
L161[02:08:58] <Shuud​oushi> Lol, rip
L162[02:09:20] <Shuud​oushi> Nah, just back 'em up as a profile to a flash drive
L163[02:09:33] <Izaya> no option for that as far as I can tell :<
L164[02:09:40] <Izaya> They said you can't overclock non-K intel processors. They were wrong.
L165[02:09:55] <Shuud​oushi> I'm positive you have some flash drives kicking about that are still fat32
L166[02:10:25] <Izaya> I have spares, but the BIOS can't do it
L167[02:10:35] <Shuud​oushi> Oh, wtfm
L168[02:10:40] <Shuud​oushi> Wtf?*
L169[02:10:52] <Izaya> it was relatively early on the UEFI train
L170[02:10:59] <Shuud​oushi> Oh
L171[02:11:06] <Shuud​oushi> Well then...
L172[02:11:19] <Izaya> which means it does have a worthwhile interface, but a lot of newer standard features aren't there
L173[02:11:34] <Shuud​oushi> Take a picture with your phone and redo the settings from a picture like the good ol days then :D
L174[02:11:44] <Izaya> my phone camera sucks
L175[02:12:04] <Shuud​oushi> Even more nostalgia then vD
L176[02:12:09] <Izaya> they only got it working recently and the picture quality is kinda bad and it's not a very high quality camera anyway
L177[02:12:28] <Izaya> did you know V4L2 doesn't deal with multiple devices on the same CSI bus very well? :D
L178[02:12:48] <Shuud​oushi> What, why?
L179[02:13:00] <Izaya> wasn't written with that in mind, basically
L180[02:13:16] <Izaya> and when it's normally meant to deal with USB webcams it's never really come up
L181[02:13:41] <Shuud​oushi> That's some ghetto shit XD
L182[02:13:59] <Izaya> just about expected for a linux phone tbh
L183[02:15:02] <Izaya> it will improve with time I'm sure
L184[02:16:01] <Shuud​oushi> Michiyo if xserver suddenly appears on your server, it wasn't me >.>
L185[02:16:07] <Michiyo> lol... my brain parsed "OC Settings" as Settings for Open Computers...
L186[02:16:08] <Michiyo> No.
L187[02:16:11] <Michiyo> Bad Shu
L188[02:16:13] <Michiyo> BAD.
L189[02:16:17] <Shuud​oushi> Lmfao
L190[02:16:43] <Kristo​pher38> Izaya: I was wondering, have they finally reverse-engineered the microcode (possibly using the latest leaks) to flip the bit responsible for allowing overclocking?
L191[02:17:02] <Kristo​pher38> On non-K CPUs I mean
L192[02:17:21] <Shuud​oushi> Oh... Powershell won't let you be a lazy POS and dump ssh address and password through bash... That's fuckin' gay...
L193[02:17:51] <Izaya> I haven't heard anything about it Kris
L194[02:17:51] <Michiyo> NO. BAD Shuu...
L195[02:17:52] <Michiyo> BAD.
L196[02:18:03] <Izaya> There's been a lot of work with the ME but that doesn't help with messing with multipliers
L197[02:18:17] <Kristo​pher38> Hm, I see
L198[02:18:27] <Izaya> and given that presumably the microcode is different for each gen of CPU
L199[02:18:27] <Kristo​pher38> Thought that you might know by chance
L200[02:19:22] <Shuud​oushi> Michiyo calm the calamity that is your mammaries, I hate xserver as much as you do lol
L201[02:25:07] <Michiyo> Oh neat... my sharex config was on onedrive and synced automatically for me
L202[02:26:35] <Shuud​oushi> Oh hey, microsoft was good for something for once vD
L203[02:26:43] ⇦ Quits: Inari (~Pinkishu@p508ef2c6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)
L204[02:29:20] <Shuud​oushi> Finding more and more reasons to build a desktop lol
L205[02:29:55] <Michiyo> I'd offer to ship you something a few years old, but I just parted out my last desktop to help the roommates
L206[02:30:34] <Michiyo> last machine I have is a hackintosh, and a FM2 APU system that is going to run my car
L207[02:30:42] <Shuud​oushi> Ain't a problem. My boss at the shop is a computer nerd and has offered to help me out with getting parts in the past
L208[02:31:03] <Amanda> %tell Inari OKay, Athena, whatever you say https://stadia.google.com/capture/cc5bd69d-e5c3-49e6-8370-350069b0277d
L209[02:31:04] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L210[02:31:43] <Shuud​oushi> Megasquirt 3 plus a raspberry pi will do ya better michiyo, unless you're gonna run all electric
L211[02:32:57] <Michiyo> I have some specific uses for a x86 based system
L212[02:33:08] <Izaya> GTX 980 4G, 200 AUD plus shipping
L213[02:33:10] <Shuud​oushi> http://megasquirt.info/products/
L214[02:33:11] <Michiyo> Pi was the first thing I thought of.
L215[02:33:19] <Shuud​oushi> Megasquirt is x86
L216[02:33:34] <Izaya> > single to 16 cylinders
L217[02:33:35] <Michiyo> EMS.. lol no
L218[02:33:35] <Izaya> neat
L219[02:33:37] <Shuud​oushi> Uses one of the intel chips
L220[02:34:21] <Izaya> I'm gonna go for a ride while it's not raining o7
L221[02:34:23] <Shuud​oushi> Izaya there's been a few people that have managed to run 32 cyl off of one megasquirt lol
L222[02:34:29] <Shuud​oushi> Be safe
L223[02:34:33] <Michiyo> My car is old enough to drink in the US. And isn't a "performance" car... So yeah don't need an EMS.
L224[02:34:57] <Shuud​oushi> Lol, my car is one year younger than me XD
L225[02:34:59] <Michiyo> 1999 Pontiac Sunfire, I don't need anything other than what came on it to run the little 4banger
L226[02:35:17] <Shuud​oushi> Fuck... Just reminded myself that I'm 30 now...
L227[02:35:20] <bad at​ vijya> heh
L228[02:35:28] <Izaya> tfw no mazda 323 astina
L229[02:35:34] <bad at​ vijya> i wanna engine+transmission swap an odyssey from my accord
L230[02:35:38] <Michiyo> IF I decide to upgrade to the v6 I MIGHT consider something like that
L231[02:35:54] <Michiyo> But that's looking less and less likely
L232[02:36:00] <Shuud​oushi> Megasquirt comes in multiple flavors btw lol
L233[02:36:32] <Izaya> imagine having any electronics besides spark plugs in your engine
L234[02:36:39] <Izaya> this post made by carbs in a 2007 vehicle gang
L235[02:37:29] <Michiyo> lol
L236[02:38:28] <Shuud​oushi> Lmao
L237[02:39:10] <Shuud​oushi> We actually recently built a carb ls6 for a 2011 escalade suv XD
L238[02:40:38] <Izaya> my bike has a design unchanged from 1992
L239[02:40:44] <Izaya> and it was designed to be cheap then
L240[02:40:55] <Shuud​oushi> ... new and interesting issue michiyo... How the fuck so I tell powershell to pound sand and let me paste from my host machine clipboard...
L241[02:41:04] <Izaya> so we got a cute little 250cc ptwin with carbs and low-effort liquid cooling
L242[02:41:10] * Michiyo shrugs
L243[02:41:15] <Michiyo> I don't powershell much :p
L244[02:41:20] <Shuud​oushi> Shit >.>
L245[02:41:22] <Michiyo> for SSH I use KiTTY lol
L246[02:41:47] <Shuud​oushi> I feel like I've been under a rock, the fuck is kitty?
L247[02:41:59] <Michiyo> PuTTY fork
L248[02:42:07] <Shuud​oushi> Ah
L249[02:42:22] <Shuud​oushi> What's different about it?
L250[02:42:33] <Michiyo> The name is super cute!
L251[02:42:41] <Shuud​oushi> Lmfao
L252[02:42:42] <Michiyo> https://www.slant.co/versus/499/501/~putty_vs_kitty
L253[02:43:59] <Shuud​oushi> Oh fuck yeah, brb installing kitty
L254[02:44:45] <Michiyo> so dropped the load on all of my VMs...
L255[02:45:04] <Michiyo> ONE server had a process stuck at 100% CPU which was murdering the host CPU
L256[02:45:16] <Michiyo> Fucking IIS.
L257[02:45:19] <Shuud​oushi> Wasn't me!
L258[02:45:23] <Shuud​oushi> For once lol
L259[02:46:56] <Shuud​oushi> Ah, the days of bring your poor defenseless minecraft server to it's fucking knees with big reactors lol
L260[02:49:42] <Ko​dos> When you gonna fix SecureOS? Or at least the installer so I can fix it 😛
L261[02:49:49] <Ko​dos> Or at least try anyway
L262[02:50:00] <Shuud​oushi> Trying to work on it now actually lol
L263[02:50:04] <Ko​dos> Ah good
L264[02:50:10] <Ko​dos> Anyone seen S3
L265[02:50:34] <Shuud​oushi> The installer should actually be my first priority tho huh >.>
L266[02:50:43] <Shuud​oushi> Yeah, he was on just a bit ago
L267[02:51:16] <Michiyo> I forget wtf S3's discord name is these days
L268[02:51:23] <Ko​dos> Zoidberg
L269[02:51:29] <Mic​hiyo> ah, right yes.
L270[02:52:07] <Mic​hiyo> "playing GeForce NOW"
L271[02:52:15] <Ko​dos> He's on Satisfactory
L272[02:52:20] <Mic​hiyo> Not a bad idea.. I should fire up Cyberpunk...
L273[02:52:25] <Ko​dos> I was going to ask him if it's any good
L274[02:52:41] <Ko​dos> I don't like the idea of resources being in predestined areas
L275[03:14:23] <Lizzy​-chan> I kinda found its interface really clunky to use and (at least for the little bit I've played so far) I feel like I'm just aimlessly following objectives with no real purpose or weight behind the decisions
L276[03:17:03] <Amanda> %choose irradiate or interative irradiation
L277[03:17:05] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: "interative irradiation", now with 30% fewer deaths caused by negligence!
L278[03:29:20] <Ocawesome101> i've seen Zoidberg/S3 around a fair bit until a couple days ago
L279[03:33:05] <Ocawesome101> s/until a couple days ago/recently/
L280[03:33:06] <MichiBot> <Ocawesome101> i've seen Zoidberg/S3 around a fair bit recently
L281[03:33:54] <Ocawesome101> meanwhile, waiting for minecraft to download on *le potato*
L282[03:34:01] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/YS6cYPCYrLzxxCZ lol, after killing that one hung IIS worker process..
L283[03:34:07] <Michiyo> I say that's a bit broken <_<
L284[03:34:12] <Ocawesome101> IIS?
L285[03:34:27] <Michiyo> Internet Information Services, MS Webserver
L286[03:34:32] <Ocawesome101> ah
L287[03:34:50] <Michiyo> running a site for someone and I've not converted it to PHP yet so it has to run on IIS as it's ASP.net
L288[03:35:04] <Ocawesome101> yikes
L289[03:35:11] <Ocawesome101> my school website uses asp.net
L290[03:35:22] <Michiyo> ONE worker, on ONE VM was eating basically just murdering the entire dedicated box
L291[03:35:28] <Ocawesome101> oof
L292[03:35:38] <Michiyo> 100% basically*
L293[03:35:39] <Michiyo> I can word.
L294[03:35:46] <Shuud​oushi> Oof
L295[03:35:48] <Ocawesome101> lol
L296[03:35:56] <Ocawesome101> %p
L297[03:35:59] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ocawes​ome101 2.53s
L298[03:36:02] <Michiyo> %p
L299[03:36:03] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mic​hiyo 0.39s
L300[03:36:06] <Ocawesome101> huh
L301[03:36:13] <Shuud​oushi> %p
L302[03:36:14] <MichiBot> Shuud​oushi: Sorry. You can't get your ping from over a bridge. You can ping irc users by passing one or more as arguments.
L303[03:36:19] <Ocawesome101> my internet connection's latency isn't that high, i think
L304[03:36:21] <Shuud​oushi> Ha
L305[03:36:30] <Michiyo> %msp Ocawesome101
L306[03:36:31] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ocawes​ome101 1083.0ms
L307[03:36:43] <Shuud​oushi> o.O
L308[03:36:52] <Ocawesome101> ~200ms to EsperNet
L309[03:36:55] <Michiyo> ping isn't perfect, but I doubt it's adding 1+ second to your actual ping.
L310[03:37:00] <Ocawesome101> huh
L311[03:37:11] <Ocawesome101> `ping irc.esper.net` shows 150-200ms
L312[03:37:22] <Lizzy​-chan> %p Lizzy
L313[03:37:24] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Li​zzy 0.23s
L314[03:38:18] <Lizzy​-chan> Ocawesome101 yeah, though that's a difference between icmp ping and it stuff
L315[03:38:57] <Lizzy​-chan> *it
L316[03:39:06] <Lizzy​-chan> Fuck off phone
L317[03:39:10] <Michiyo> IRC*
L318[03:39:10] <Michiyo> :P
L319[03:39:13] <Lizzy​-chan> *irc
L320[03:39:22] <Lizzy​-chan> :blobcatglare:
L321[03:39:36] <Ocawesome101> true
L322[03:40:04] <Ocawesome101> i guess if sending a message or doing a CTCP takes 4 message passes then that'd make sense?
L323[03:40:49] <Michiyo> as soon as michibot sees the command it adds you to a hashmap, it then issues a CTCP ping, and then waits for the reply. Once it sees a notice it then does the math and sends the reply
L324[03:41:00] <Michiyo> so really it's only 2 messages with an extra as the trigger
L325[03:41:02] <Ocawesome101> interesting
L326[03:41:42] <Michiyo> the module is in its own thread, so in theory it should be fairly fast.
L327[03:41:47] <Michiyo> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/lc/irc/hooks/Ping.java
L328[03:43:08] <Michiyo> assuming your client is standards compliant and sends back exactly what it gets it should be pretty close.
L329[03:43:23] <Ocawesome101> i assume that's what IRSSI does, but no idea
L330[03:43:32] <Michiyo> %p
L331[03:43:33] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mic​hiyo 0.37s
L332[03:43:46] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/25mFixbnPxX8qsF
L333[03:44:30] <Michiyo> %p MichiBot
L334[03:44:32] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mich​iBot 1.01s
L335[03:44:34] <Michiyo> lmao
L336[03:44:47] <Michiyo> not surprising there really
L337[03:44:58] <Michiyo> %p Corded
L338[03:44:59] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Cor​ded 0.44s
L339[03:57:25] <Ocawesome101> dang
L340[03:57:49] <Ocawesome101> sodium on this laptop bringes framerates in minecraft 1.16.4 from ~1.5fps to a very playable 30-50fps
L341[04:00:15] <Vampyre> you should substract the rtt the bot has with it self, that would give a better aproximation
L342[04:00:39] <Ocawesome101> to subtract 1s and michiuo's ping is -0.63s?
L343[04:01:14] <Vampyre> no, when the bot checks your pig, it also adds its own latency to esper, so it should substract that
L344[04:01:18] <Ocawesome101> ah
L345[04:01:19] <Vampyre> ping*
L346[04:03:50] <Vampyre> irc supports sending messages to multiple persons, so if the bot sends an ctcp to you and itself, it can calculate it simply
L347[04:05:11] <superminor2> %p
L348[04:05:12] <MichiBot> Ping reply from super​minor2 0.22s
L349[04:06:54] <superminor2> Haha Lizzy, I have 0.01 seconds less latency than you
L350[04:07:11] <superminor2> I am sure you are immensely jealous
L351[04:10:37] <Brisingr​Aerowing> GAH! I hate bizarre bugs!
L352[04:10:53] <Michiyo> The bot.. that already shows inconsistent numbers when pinging itself... should ping itself to resolve this issue?
L353[04:11:01] <Michiyo> mmhmm..
L354[04:11:02] <Brisingr​Aerowing> I'm trying to figure out which one of my mods is preventing trees from spawning in vanilla biomes.
L355[04:11:09] <Brisingr​Aerowing> And it's infurating.
L356[04:11:12] <Lizzy​-chan> Superminor2 nah
L357[04:11:29] <Brisingr​Aerowing> *infuriating
L358[04:11:39] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Me speel good
L359[04:12:43] <Michiyo> The ping code is fairly straight forward. It sends a timestamp, your client responds with that timestamp, it then subtracts the current time from that timestamp and prints the result. I don't really think the bot pinging itself and then trying to do the math on both of those results is going to help.
L360[04:13:22] <Lizzy​-chan> Also superminor2, you have 0.01 seconds less without having to go across to another continent
L361[04:13:24] <Vampyre> Michiyo, doesn't matter much in general, it being an irc bot and all, but in theory it shouldn't matter, if you record the message time of send, arrival and ctcp ping arrival, every ping should be compensated more or less
L362[04:14:36] <Lizzy​-chan> So clearly mine is superior :blobcatsmug:
L363[04:14:42] <Vampyre> the 1st reply tells you yur rtt on that moment, the 2nd reply you then substract half your rtt, divide the anser by 2, ad that it the clients single latency to esper (I think... math... ;-))
L364[04:15:16] <Vampyre> but more trouble then it's worth for an irc bot
L365[04:15:32] <Michiyo> Right...
L366[04:15:49] <Lizzy​-chan> Except the latency to esper could deviate at random with server load and shit
L367[04:16:21] <Vampyre> yah, we're assuming an perfect ircd here with completely symetric connections all out ;-)
L368[04:16:49] <Shuud​oushi> NERDS!!!
L369[04:16:54] <Vampyre> shhh
L370[04:17:19] <Shuud​oushi> Oh, wait... I'm rebuilding an OS wrote in Lua from nearly scratch...
L371[04:17:22] <Shuud​oushi> Shit...
L372[04:17:25] <Ocawesome101> hehehe
L373[04:17:37] <Ocawesome101> just base it on Monolith :P
L374[04:17:38] <Vampyre> join the dark side! :-p
L375[04:17:42] <Ocawesome101> /s
L376[04:17:54] <Shuud​oushi> No lol
L377[04:18:09] <Ocawesome101> awe
L378[04:18:43] <Shuud​oushi> The whole point of the OS was to be shipped with Opensecurity and be Unix like without deviating too far from OpenOS to keep it user friendly
L379[04:18:49] <Michiyo> MichiBot's ping is implemented basically exactly how every other client does it. I don't see much point in changing it. So meh.
L380[04:18:51] <Ocawesome101> yeah, yeah, yeah
L381[04:19:07] <B​ob> %p
L382[04:19:07] <MichiBot> B​ob: Sorry. You can't get your ping from over a bridge. You can ping irc users by passing one or more as arguments.
L383[04:19:13] <B​ob> yeet
L384[04:19:32] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L385[04:19:42] <Lizzy​-chan> But michiyo! It must do 3 backflips, sing ab opera and take human kind to the stars!
L386[04:20:13] <Michiyo> The only real deviation is that pircbotx uses a queue so stuff can get a BIT out of sync
L387[04:21:03] <Shuud​oushi> Oh wow... My installer is super fucked... How the hell...
L388[04:21:18] <Michiyo> if it HAPPENS to be processing something else, or if a solar flare happens, or if she's just in a pissy mood the event may not fire EXACTLY when the reply comes back so you get a bit of shift...
L389[04:21:57] <Shuud​oushi> More like /shaft/, hey oh!
L390[04:22:10] <Shuud​oushi> I'll see myself out tyvm...
L391[04:27:09] <Shuud​oushi> Michiyo that Ghxx dude is gonna make me be mean to him...
L392[04:27:22] <Michiyo> lmao
L393[04:27:27] <Shuud​oushi> No one wants that >.>
L394[04:27:44] <Ocawesome101> who?
L395[04:27:55] <Ocawesome101> opening idiotic issues on github>
L396[04:27:58] <Ocawesome101> *?
L397[04:28:06] <Shuud​oushi> Basically
L398[04:28:14] <Michiyo> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/issues/161 https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/issues/162 https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/issues/160
L399[04:28:18] <Michiyo> that guy :P
L400[04:28:52] <Shuud​oushi> "this thing doesn't work when I do it even though I don't give it any time to process what I did! It's broke, fix it!"
L401[04:28:55] <Michiyo> 160 is basically just wait longer before playing the sound again.
L402[04:29:04] <Michiyo> 161 and 162 are not bugs and WAI
L403[04:30:21] * Ocawesome101 sighs
L404[04:30:23] <Ocawesome101> wow
L405[04:30:26] <Shuud​oushi> Opencomputers (Last I checked at least) has hard baked processing speed limits to keep dumb fucks from skull fucking servers to death
L406[04:30:36] <Ocawesome101> correct
L407[04:30:45] <Michiyo> Server <-> Client sync isn't instant, it takes a couple of ticks to push the server te state down to the client IIRC
L408[04:31:43] <Shuud​oushi> I think it's like 2 ticks. It's been a REALLY long time since I looked though
L409[04:31:46] <Michiyo> and a lot of what the alarm does is based on sending block update notifications which means I'm at the mercy of that limit
L410[04:32:49] <Shuud​oushi> Wait a ¼ of a second and let shit sync together properly, it'll be fine
L411[04:32:53] <Michiyo> Also looking at this code, I'm reminded of superminor2's very interesting use of playSoundAt....
L412[04:33:04] <Shuud​oushi> Lmfao
L413[04:33:06] <Shuud​oushi> Ikr XD
L414[04:33:08] <Michiyo> Thank you for the nightmares superminor2.
L415[04:33:15] <Michiyo> I'll never forget those sounds.
L416[04:33:21] <Michiyo> They haunt me.
L417[04:33:47] <superminor2> Oh no
L418[04:33:58] <Shuud​oushi> Ah, fun times with debug cards
L419[04:34:12] <superminor2> The reactor is overheating! Deploy the warning alarm!
L420[04:34:34] <Michiyo> Alarms have a playSoundAt if you enable it in the config, and with this being my test dev server I of course had it enabled.
L421[04:35:00] <Michiyo> I'm standing around in my base and next thing I know I'm hearing 2 villagers get it on...
L422[04:35:09] <Ocawesome101> lmao
L423[04:35:17] <Shuud​oushi> Oh no lmfao
L424[04:35:18] <Michiyo> just GOING AT IT.
L425[04:35:28] <superminor2> You have no PROOF that was me
L426[04:35:35] <Michiyo> Villagers moaning, slimes just SLAPPIN AWAY AT IT... and then...
L427[04:35:37] <Michiyo> AND THEN
L428[04:35:41] <Michiyo> a ghast cry..
L429[04:35:45] <Michiyo> oh gods...
L430[04:35:47] <Michiyo> the ghast cry.
L431[04:35:58] <Shuud​oushi> Better than superminor2's misadventures with world edit >.>
L432[04:36:07] <Ocawesome101> hahahahahahahahahaha
L433[04:37:00] <Michiyo> "Sell, since it is unintended, gameplay degrading behaviour, it is techncially a bug"
L434[04:37:08] <Shuud​oushi> Thank God that just crashed the server before WE actually did anything...
L435[04:37:12] <Michiyo> Dude... wtf.. how is this "gameplay degrading behaviour"?
L436[04:37:30] <Shuud​oushi> Because he has the IQ of potato
L437[04:37:47] <Ocawesome101> more like "mildly annoying Minecraft behavior"
L438[04:37:50] <Michiyo> If you're on this Discord or IRC channel... Fiteme.
L439[04:38:09] <Shuud​oushi> XD
L440[04:38:19] <superminor2> I wonder if that got recorded Michiyo
L441[04:38:32] <superminor2> I think you remember it better than I do!
L442[04:38:33] <Amanda> Michiyo: your mod doesn't give me scritchies, this is gameplay degrading behavior
L443[04:38:40] <Michiyo> Amanda++
L444[04:38:40] <MichiBot> Michiyo: AmandaC now has 9024 points
L445[04:38:59] <Shuud​oushi> Not like you can't recreate it and haunt michiyo for lifetimes to come with it
L446[04:39:09] <superminor2> It wouldn't be the same
L447[04:39:22] <Shuud​oushi> Bullshit lol
L448[04:39:24] <superminor2> I am so much more "mature" now
L449[04:39:48] <Michiyo> lol..
L450[04:39:50] <Shuud​oushi> I hear the lightening clouds gathering superminor2
L451[04:39:50] <Michiyo> *ahem*
L452[04:39:57] <Amanda> Now they'd all say fuck over and over
L453[04:40:05] <Shuud​oushi> Lmao
L454[04:40:28] <superminor2> "Did you remember to pay the doctor bill?"
L455[04:40:31] <Lizzy​-chan> Superminor2 :blobcatthinkingglare:
L456[04:40:44] <Ocawesome101> i'm just over here dying lmao
L457[04:40:45] <Shuud​oushi> Find some way of uploading the entire audio track from legend of the overfiend
L458[04:41:05] <Lizzy​-chan> Just don't let the shit get in the fans....
L459[04:42:22] <Shuud​oushi> eye twitches
L460[04:42:44] <Shuud​oushi> I just read the latest comment for 162...
L461[04:42:47] <Michiyo> Damn it.. this is making me want to start up a server again
L462[04:42:57] <Shuud​oushi> Right?
L463[04:43:40] <Lizzy​-chan> I wish MC wasn't an instant burnout game for me
L464[04:43:46] <Michiyo> Yes.
L465[04:43:52] <Shuud​oushi> Yeah
L466[04:44:02] <superminor2> I build some reactors, set up a control system, then I get bored
L467[04:44:14] <Shuud​oushi> I can at least still mess with redstone for hours though
L468[04:44:24] <superminor2> Or it is survival and it takes like a month of playing to get a basic computer built
L469[04:44:44] <Lizzy​-chan> I'm lucky if I make it past the loading screen
L470[04:44:46] <Ocawesome101> redstone is fun
L471[04:45:00] <Ocawesome101> especially in 1.16 with the target block n shit
L472[04:45:09] <Michiyo> IDK why but I can NOT enjoy survival...
L473[04:45:22] <Shuud​oushi> Is project red still actively worked on?
L474[04:45:33] <Ocawesome101> PR2 might be
L475[04:45:44] <Ocawesome101> not sure
L476[04:46:35] <Amanda> Anyways, bed time, Nini
L477[04:46:43] <Shuud​oushi> Gn o/
L478[04:46:46] <Michiyo> night Amanda
L479[04:46:47] <Ocawesome101> night
L480[04:47:09] <Shuud​oushi> Ah atom finally finished updating
L481[04:47:34] <Ocawesome101> > atom
L482[04:47:39] <Ocawesome101> nah man, use Vim
L483[04:47:42] <Ocawesome101> :D
L484[04:48:08] <Shuud​oushi> < windows
L485[04:48:28] <Ocawesome101> vim works on windows iirc
L486[04:49:03] <Izaya> not sure why you'd use a web browser instead of a text editor but you do you
L487[04:49:32] <Shuud​oushi> Gfys
L488[04:49:33] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L489[04:50:54] <Izaya> bought some books and food
L490[04:51:01] <Izaya> comf
L491[04:51:06] <Shuud​oushi> And I'm using it mostly because it was convenient
L492[04:51:33] <Izaya> can feel the rear brake pad's not all there any more
L493[04:52:09] <Shuud​oushi> Eh, all Gas, no brakes
L494[04:52:30] <Shuud​oushi> We die like MEN damn it!
L495[04:52:31] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L496[04:52:33] <Izaya> I mean, I don't use brakes much anyway
L497[04:52:50] <Izaya> do you have any idea how much backpressure a tiny 11.5:1 compression engine has?
L498[04:52:54] <Ocawesome101> lol
L499[04:53:18] <Shuud​oushi> Oh, vim did get an update for windows. Neat
L500[04:53:44] <Izaya> just let off the throttle and you slow right down
L501[04:54:04] <Izaya> brakes are for emergencies and low speeds
L502[04:55:24] <Shuud​oushi> Speaking of comprehension... I need to pull the head and bottom end of my car apart some time... Cyl 3 only had 200 psi the last time I checked it...
L503[04:56:02] <superminor2> Hmm you had better go to the gas station and pump some air in #3 then
L504[04:56:18] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L505[04:57:00] <Shuud​oushi> I'd love to see the gas station that has a compressor that does 240psi XD
L506[04:57:18] <Izaya> I need to do my tires
L507[04:57:40] <Izaya> maintaining correct pressure is a pain >.>
L508[04:58:23] <Shuud​oushi> I feel ya
L509[04:58:31] <Izaya> actually, I have a compressor here, I should just use that
L510[05:01:11] <Izaya> doesn't help that the front and back want different pressures and they're different to the specs
L511[05:03:23] <Shuud​oushi> Yep, not going through the headache of setting up vim atm... Fuck that lol
L512[05:06:41] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L513[05:06:42] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! Compan​ionCube! You beat ThePi​Guy24's previous record of 3 hours, 28 minutes and 49 seconds (By 3 hours, 18 minutes and 59 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L514[05:06:43] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.0596. Position #1
L515[05:43:02] <Ocawesome101> well, for TLE being the editor i thought could replace Vim i think VLE is doing a much better job
L516[05:44:56] * Michiyo sighs
L517[05:46:10] <Izaya> CompanionCube: got any papers and such on image-based language/system design?
L518[05:46:21] <Ocawesome101> image-based?
L519[05:46:38] <Izaya> like how with forth systems you save the system state to disk
L520[05:46:49] <CompanionCube> Izaya: for e.g. smalltalk there's the classic Back to the Future
L521[05:46:54] <Izaya> and it saves the whole environment
L522[05:47:18] <Ocawesome101> ah
L523[05:47:30] <CompanionCube> http://files.squeak.org/docs/OOPSLA.Squeak.html
L524[05:47:34] <CompanionCube> rather short
L525[05:48:18] <Shuud​oushi> @Michiyo#0000 anything ever come of custom server racks btw?
L526[05:48:25] <Shuud​oushi> Oops
L527[05:48:30] <Shuud​oushi> Oh well
L528[05:48:38] <Shuud​oushi> Michiyo ^
L529[05:48:39] <Izaya> hmhm, I'll take a look
L530[05:48:41] <Izaya> thanks
L531[05:48:59] <Michiyo> @Shuudoushi IIRC ben stole the idea and implemented it in his mod
L532[05:49:13] <Shuud​oushi> Ah, that fucker lol
L533[05:49:29] <CompanionCube> Izaya: also there's a more recent paper about the modern VM descended from the above one
L534[05:49:30] <Michiyo> I can't complain he's helped a lot with my mods lol
L535[05:49:34] <CompanionCube> 2 decades later
L536[05:49:46] ⇦ Quits: Cervator (~Thunderbi@2600:1700:1a25:9160:a9ee:de8a:bfb1:b98c) (Quit: Cervator)
L537[05:49:53] <Izaya> Ocawesome101: it's worth noting that forth system usually just dump memory to disk while stuff more ... advanced like smalltalk and lisp store actual nice representations
L538[05:50:06] <Michiyo> I just yanked direct=true off of all of these methods, let's see what THIS does.
L539[05:50:12] <Izaya> oh?
L540[05:50:17] <Ocawesome101> lol
L541[05:50:33] <Michiyo> Nothing \o/
L542[05:50:34] <Shuud​oushi> Michiyo fire, and lots of it :D
L543[05:50:36] <CompanionCube> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328509577_Two_Decades_of_Smalltalk_VM_Development_Live_VM_Development_through_Simulation_Tools
L544[05:50:44] <Shuud​oushi> Aww :(
L545[05:52:05] <CompanionCube> for old context there's the 1980s Blue and Green books
L546[05:54:47] <CompanionCube> Izaya: where you going with this btw
L547[05:55:01] <Ocawesome101> do i sense something psychos-related?
L548[05:55:35] <Izaya> working on a forth OS for my ZPU clone
L549[05:55:39] <Izaya> doing some reading
L550[05:55:59] <Ocawesome101> ah
L551[05:56:32] <CompanionCube> the ones above focus on the implementation of a language rather than language design itself, but eh
L552[05:57:08] <Izaya> unix-related papers are about implementation mostly and they work
L553[05:57:13] <Izaya> it will be interesting reading either way
L554[05:58:00] <Shuud​oushi> I broke vim...
L555[05:58:54] <CompanionCube> (the longest is probably the 1980s material which was written as actual books.)
L556[05:59:04] <Ocawesome101> what'd you do?
L557[05:59:43] <Shuud​oushi> No idea.. can't get it to fuck off now though...
L558[05:59:57] <Ocawesome101> are you having trouble closing vim? :D
L559[06:01:01] <Shuud​oushi> Oi, fuck you, I haven't used it in like 7 years
L560[06:01:30] * CompanionCube doesn't follow forth, but maybe UCSD p-system is a useful model as well?
L561[06:01:54] <Ocawesome101> <ESC>:wq! doesn't work? :thonk:
L562[06:02:36] <Shuud​oushi> SPEAK ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER!
L563[06:02:39] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L564[06:03:02] <Shuud​oushi> Ctrl-Z closes it... Best I can tell at least
L565[06:03:10] <CompanionCube> ctrl-z is suspend tho
L566[06:03:11] <Ocawesome101> that puts it into the background
L567[06:03:26] <Ocawesome101> run `fg` and it pops back up
L568[06:03:34] <CompanionCube> kill &1 now :)
L569[06:03:34] <Shuud​oushi> Well fuck me...
L570[06:03:49] <Ocawesome101> press ESC, type `:q`, done
L571[06:07:42] <Shuud​oushi> Ok, fuck vim and everything it stands for >.>
L572[06:07:46] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L573[06:07:47] <Ocawesome101> hey!
L574[06:08:00] <CompanionCube> i approve
L575[06:08:05] <Shuud​oushi> I knew there was a reason I hadn't used it in so long lol
L576[06:08:07] * Ocawesome101 uses best old-man voice
L577[06:08:15] <Ocawesome101> YOU'D BETTER APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, YOUNG MAN
L578[06:08:27] <Ocawesome101> ;)
L579[06:08:39] <CompanionCube> Ocawesome101: you are a heretic anyway for not using ed.
L580[06:08:50] <CompanionCube> ed: vi but worse/
L581[06:08:53] <Ocawesome101> hey, `ed` is impossible *shrugs*
L582[06:08:55] <Shuud​oushi> How old are you? You know, doesn't matter, I'd still turn asshole inside out and make you wear it as a hat ^^
L583[06:09:36] <Ocawesome101> i legitimately can't tell if that was a joke or not
L584[06:09:52] <Shuud​oushi> Lmao, you're good
L585[06:09:58] <Ocawesome101> :P i assumed so
L586[06:10:16] <Ocawesome101> but! on the internet, one should never assume
L587[06:10:21] <Shuud​oushi> Every want to watch a PVT shit themselves, say something to that effect to them lol
L588[06:10:37] <Shuud​oushi> S/Every/ever
L589[06:10:39] <Ocawesome101> a what?
L590[06:10:52] <Shuud​oushi> Military rank, private
L591[06:10:56] <Ocawesome101> ah lmao
L592[06:11:18] <Shuud​oushi> You gotta do it either straight faced, or with a sadistic smile tho
L593[06:12:37] <Shuud​oushi> It's sometimes fun to make.lower enlisted men shit their pants lol
L594[06:13:19] <Ocawesome101> i see
L595[06:13:37] <Shuud​oushi> Right, time to figure out how to use vim. Or better yet, install something that isn't a useless pile of decayed shit
L596[06:13:42] <Ocawesome101> do you work for / are you involved in the military?
L597[06:13:51] <Shuud​oushi> Used to be
L598[06:13:54] <Ocawesome101> ah
L599[06:14:18] <Shuud​oushi> It was actually part of the reason I was away for so long
L600[06:16:44] <Shuud​oushi> Now I'm just "that scary dude that'll skull fuck you to death and not even have the common courtesy to gouge out your fucking eyes first" when it comes to unruly customers at work
L601[06:16:54] <Ocawesome101> hahahahaha
L602[06:18:15] <Shuud​oushi> Love my job. Get to fix busted shit that no one else seems to be able to fix and my boss gives no fucks if I have to adjust a customers attitude
L603[06:18:56] <Mic​hiyo> Shuu just dev on ny server it has vim :p
L604[06:19:01] <Mic​hiyo> My*
L605[06:19:35] <Shuud​oushi> I am deving in your server and currently looking for something other than vim
L606[06:19:35] <bad at​ vijya> my knees don't work so i fix things
L607[06:19:39] <bad at​ vijya> 👀
L608[06:19:43] <Mic​hiyo> Vi?
L609[06:19:45] <Mic​hiyo> Lol
L610[06:19:49] <Shuud​oushi> @bad at vijya basically
L611[06:19:57] <Mic​hiyo> No. Don't. Its a joke lol
L612[06:20:06] <Shuud​oushi> Lol
L613[06:20:08] <Shuud​oushi> Fucker
L614[06:20:09] <Mic​hiyo> Nano
L615[06:20:10] <bad at​ vijya> oh i was serious, have to quit my current job because of fuckin
L616[06:20:13] <bad at​ vijya> bad knees
L617[06:20:14] <bad at​ vijya> e
L618[06:20:15] <Mic​hiyo> Its nice and installed
L619[06:20:35] <bad at​ vijya> a
L620[06:20:46] <bad at​ vijya> i have to write my shaders in HLSL
L621[06:20:51] <Shuud​oushi> Got times out... Luckily, kitty is nice and just logs me back in :D
L622[06:20:52] <bad at​ vijya> oh
L623[06:20:53] <bad at​ vijya> and
L624[06:20:54] <bad at​ vijya> glsl
L625[06:21:04] <bad at​ vijya> gotta write them twice :)
L626[06:21:06] <bad at​ vijya> i should just
L627[06:21:09] <bad at​ vijya> only support OpenGL
L628[06:21:15] <Shuud​oushi> @bad at vijya oof. I'm at least still kinda mobile most days
L629[06:21:29] <bad at​ vijya> i'm able to walk around but like
L630[06:21:44] <bad at​ vijya> standing for long periods of time, jumping across things
L631[06:21:46] <bad at​ vijya> the like
L632[06:21:50] <bad at​ vijya> is not a good
L633[06:22:10] <Ocawesome101> what happened to your knees?
L634[06:22:15] <bad at​ vijya> well
L635[06:22:18] <bad at​ vijya> both sides of my family
L636[06:22:21] <bad at​ vijya> have bad knees
L637[06:22:36] * Ocawesome101 steals @"bad at vijya"'s enter key
L638[06:22:52] <bad at​ vijya> i have other means to send
L639[06:22:54] <bad at​ vijya> mwahahahaha
L640[06:23:04] <Ocawesome101> nooooooo
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L642[06:23:44] <Shuud​oushi> @Michiyo ah yes, nano is nice, fuck vim with the severed flameing cock of satan :D
L643[06:23:46] <badatvijya> specifically ^J
L644[06:23:56] <badatvijya> i use micro tbh
L645[06:24:09] <badatvijya> i want to write my own editor so i can run it on my pentium 3 machine
L646[06:24:12] <badatvijya> in lua, of course
L647[06:24:21] <Ocawesome101> i'm trying to get accustomed to VLE, partially by adding in Vim-like features :P
L648[06:24:56] <Ocawesome101> you *could* just use VLE and save yourself some trouble
L649[06:25:06] <Ocawesome101> or TLE if you prefer nano-ish editors
L650[06:25:28] <badatvijya> lmao
L651[06:25:34] <badatvijya> i have other things in mind for my editor
L652[06:25:43] <Ocawesome101> such as what?
L653[06:25:47] <badatvijya> if my editor can't double as an IRC client, it's not good enough
L654[06:25:53] <Ocawesome101> lmao i see
L655[06:26:05] <Ocawesome101> i kind of want to write a very fancy editor and kind of don't
L656[06:26:18] <Shuud​oushi> Yeah, I'mma avoid filling Michiyo's server with piles of shit, she's nice enough to allow me to use it, don't want to abuse the privilege lol
L657[06:26:24] <badatvijya> i'm currently trying to figure out how to avoid writing torquescript
L658[06:26:31] <badatvijya> for my plane game
L659[06:26:36] <badatvijya> trying to just write C and Lua
L660[06:26:43] <Ocawesome101> what's torquescript?
L661[06:26:48] <Ocawesome101> something to do with physics?
L662[06:27:02] <badatvijya> scripting for the torque3d engine
L663[06:27:13] <Ocawesome101> ah
L664[06:27:21] <Ocawesome101> ugh
L665[06:27:26] <Ocawesome101> i can't seem to make LuaSocket work
L666[06:27:31] <Ocawesome101> with HTTP requests
L667[06:28:02] <Ocawesome101> getting a 301 Moved Permanently for a file that very much exists
L668[06:28:35] <badatvijya> oof
L669[06:28:46] <Shuud​oushi> Did the way shell.execute() or wget work change?
L670[06:28:57] <Ocawesome101> i'm not in OpenComputers actually
L671[06:29:05] <Ocawesome101> all PUC lua on Linux
L672[06:29:20] <badatvijya> i'm listening to Halo: Reach's OST while writing story stuff for the game i'm planning out B)
L673[06:29:38] <badatvijya> useful procrastination, because i don't want to have to crash course into modeling
L674[06:29:41] <Ocawesome101> setting `http.PORT = 443; http.USERAGENT = <chromium useragent because firefox likes to crash Firefox>`
L675[06:29:59] <Shuud​oushi> Lulz
L676[06:30:15] <badatvijya> the first plane i have to model is the Mirage IIID :)
L677[06:30:17] <Ocawesome101> then doing `http.request {url=url, redirect=true, method=get}`
L678[06:30:26] <Ocawesome101> s/get/"GET"/
L679[06:30:26] <MichiBot> <Ocawesome101> then doing `http.request {url=url, redirect=true, method="GET"}`
L680[06:30:27] <Shuud​oushi> I'm learning german while trying to get at least this fuckin' installer working again
L681[06:30:34] <Ocawesome101> holy shit that was fast
L682[06:30:53] <badatvijya> wut
L683[06:31:02] <Ocawesome101> the s/a/b
L684[06:31:11] <badatvijya> ah
L685[06:31:18] <Ocawesome101> pressed enter and got a response in <0.1s, or it felt like it
L686[06:31:24] <badatvijya> man
L687[06:31:42] <badatvijya> listening to the halo reach OST has totally not influenced any story events at all
L688[06:31:45] <badatvijya> :^)
L689[06:33:03] <badatvijya> speaking of music i've been listening to while i write
L690[06:33:04] <badatvijya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfR_eoEezvQ
L691[06:33:04] <MichiBot> Arrival of Erusea | length: 2m 57s | Likes: 587 Dislikes: 10 Views: 25,253 | by Lucas Ricciotti - Topic | Published On 14/5/2019
L692[06:35:46] <Ocawesome101> oh yeah, also, https://asciinema.org/a/btklavCtFpjz8Q2v719GfeBaj
L693[06:36:19] <badatvijya> anyways, the cool starter plane will have cool things like a booster and room for your ~waifu~ WSO
L694[06:40:39] <badatvijya> also you can launch rods from god B)
L695[06:42:28] <Izaya> waifu systems officer
L696[06:44:33] <badatvijya> ^
L697[06:45:03] <badatvijya> just remember
L698[06:45:12] <badatvijya> if you have too many waifus, it'll ruin your laifu
L699[07:07:57] <Shuud​oushi> @Michiyo I'm fucking dieing right now XD the main thing that killed my installer was githubs need to be PC lmfao
L700[07:10:01] <Ocawesome101> the switch to `main' over `master'?
L701[07:13:42] <Ocawesome101> anyway i should have gone to bed 2 hours ago
L702[07:13:43] <Ocawesome101> goodnight all
L703[07:13:58] <Izaya> o/
L704[07:17:32] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L705[07:17:32] <MichiBot> Yippee! Forec​aster! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 10 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L706[07:17:33] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 10 minutes and 50 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00218 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.00379 more points to pass Va​ur!
L707[07:31:33] <Shuud​oushi> Oh boy... I get to build a whole new installer because I sort of fucked myself when working on the update system...
L708[07:32:32] <Shuud​oushi> Right, that's a problem for later me... Be safe everyone, I'm out of here. I shall return™
L709[07:35:07] <Izaya> o/
L710[07:37:19] <Michiyo> And he was gone for another 1.5 years
L711[07:57:27] <Forec​aster> Until a princess breaks the curse once more
L712[07:58:07] <Forec​aster> With a swift kick to the rear
L713[07:58:33] <Forec​aster> A tale as old as time
L714[08:02:41] <bad at​ vijya> i uh
L715[08:02:51] <bad at​ vijya> i may have made a starfighter in KSP
L716[08:02:52] <bad at​ vijya> with canards
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L722[10:00:03] <Va​ur> %tonk
L723[10:00:04] <MichiBot> Yay! Va​ur! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 2 hours, 10 minutes and 50 seconds (By 31 minutes and 41 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L724[10:00:05] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 2 hours, 42 minutes and 31 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.00159 (0.00053 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.0074 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
L725[10:01:58] <Va​ur> he keeps getting away 😦
L726[10:04:30] <Forec​aster> %redshell CompanionCube
L727[10:04:30] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Unfortunately you missed with a 6 vs 14.
L728[10:04:34] <Forec​aster> dang
L729[10:13:21] <Shuud​oushi> @Forecaster @Michiyo fuck both y'all btw lol
L730[10:13:49] <Forec​aster> %splash @Shuudoushi
L731[10:13:49] <MichiBot> You fling a basic moonstone potion (New!) that splashes onto @Shuudoushi. A genie tries to turn @Shuudoushi into spaghetti, @Shuudoushi tries to evade but is caught in the beam and transformed for 9 seconds. (11 vs DC 12)
L732[10:14:29] <Shuud​oushi> %shank @Forecaster
L733[10:14:56] <Shuud​oushi> Aw, which bot was the shanky one?
L734[10:15:13] <Forec​aster> %attack
L735[10:15:14] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Invalid arguments. %attack string Action, string Target, [string Item]
L736[10:15:28] <Forec​aster> oh, that needs an override
L737[10:15:37] <Forec​aster> %alias attack
L738[10:15:37] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: 'attack' aliases: [stab, hit, shiv, strike, slap, poke, prod, smack, conk, bite, claw, punch]
L739[10:16:06] <Shuud​oushi> %shiv @Forecaster
L740[10:16:07] <MichiBot> Shuudoushi is trying to shiv @Forec​aster! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L741[10:16:12] <Forec​aster> %parry
L742[10:16:13] <MichiBot> Forecaster failed to parry Shuudoushi wielding pulseaudio. With a 9 vs 12 Forecaster takes the full 3 damage.
L743[10:16:18] <Forec​aster> ow
L744[10:16:46] <Shuud​oushi> Party this you filthy casual! Lol
L745[10:16:55] <Shuud​oushi> Parry*
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L747[11:32:26] <T​NT> soo i'm facing some difficulty coding a drone controller over TCP
L748[11:33:06] <T​NT> ```lua
L749[11:33:07] <Corded> local component = require "component"
L750[11:33:07] <Corded> local computer = component.proxy((component.list("computer")()))
L751[11:33:07] <Corded> local internet = component.proxy((component.list("internet")()))
L752[11:33:07] <Corded> --local drone = component.proxy((component.list("drone")()))
L753[11:33:08] <Corded> local x = 184
L754[11:33:08] <Corded> local y = 67
L755[11:33:08] <Corded> local z = 284
L756[11:33:08] <Corded> if not internet.isTcpEnabled() then
L757[11:33:09] <Corded> error("TCP is not enabled in the game!", 0)
L758[11:33:09] <Corded> end
L759[11:33:10] <Corded> local handle = internet.connect("tntdns.ddns.net", 6969)
L760[11:33:10] <Corded> handle.finishConnect()
L761[11:33:11] <Corded> handle.write(x..","..y..","..z)
L762[11:33:11] <Corded> while true
L763[11:33:12] <Corded> do
L764[11:33:12] <Corded> evt,_ = computer.pullSignal()
L765[11:33:13] <Corded> print(evt)
L766[11:33:13] <Corded> if evt == "internet_ready" then
L767[11:33:14] <Corded> pos = handle.read(1024)
L768[11:33:14] <Corded> print(pos)
L769[11:33:15] <Corded> tx, ty ,tz = pos:match("([^,]+),([^,]+)")
L770[11:33:15] <Corded> print(pos)
L771[11:33:16] <Corded> print(tx)
L772[11:33:16] <Corded> print(ty)
L773[11:33:17] <Corded> print(tz)
L774[11:33:17] <Corded> if tx and ty and tz then
L775[11:33:18] <Corded> print(tx)
L776[11:33:18] <Corded> print(ty)
L777[11:33:19] <Corded> print(tz)
L778[11:33:19] <Corded> --drone.setStatusText(tx)
L779[11:33:20] <Corded> diffx = x - tonumber(tx)
L780[11:33:20] <Corded> diffy = y - tonumber(ty)
L781[11:33:21] <Corded> diffz = z -
L782[11:33:22] <Corded> tonumber(tz)
L783[11:33:22] <Corded> print(diffx)
L784[11:33:23] <Corded> print(diffy)
L785[11:33:23] <Corded> print(diffz)
L786[11:33:24] <Corded> --drone.move(diffx,diffy,diffz)
L787[11:33:24] <Corded> end
L788[11:33:25] <Corded> end
L789[11:33:25] <Corded> end
L790[11:33:26] <Corded> ```the code that i have
L791[11:33:26] <Corded> the error: https://tinyurl.com/ya53v6kp
L792[11:33:27] <ThePi​Guy24> already gave you the solution in OCgoss
L793[11:33:27] <T​NT> ?
L794[11:33:36] <ThePi​Guy24> https://discord.com/channels/735456205375275008/735456205375275012/795615420726902785
L795[11:34:30] <T​NT> k
L796[11:48:18] <B​ob> would there be a way to use entities as scoreboard, or get their uuid to use in the scoreboard ?
L797[12:00:23] <T​NT> soo i'm trying to get the signal "internetready" but cant this goes on an eeprom currently testin on a normal pc for speed
L798[12:00:24] <T​NT> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/akadenedoj
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L802[12:47:05] <Kristo​pher38> @Ariri when you were doing your Minecraft modpack, how did you do autoupdating? I vaguely remember something about an external program that would download an update but forgot the details
L803[12:48:22] <Izaya> your options are basically voodoo https://github.com/DaemonicLabs/Voodoo or https://github.com/XDjackieXD/PackUpdate/ as far as I know
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L807[12:53:53] <Kristo​pher38> I see, thanks
L808[13:00:31] <ThePi​Guy24> if you are using voodoo its is probably best to join the owners discord or talk to them in IRC as the docs are patchy
L809[13:00:57] <Izaya> also install IDEA if you don't already have it, because you have to build from source to configure :)
L810[13:05:03] <Forec​aster> there is also https://gitlab.theender.net/Forecaster/ForeModpacker
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L814[13:49:03] <Izaya> %remindme 70m food
L815[13:49:03] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "food" at 01/04/2021 02:59:03 PM
L816[13:49:08] <Izaya> nice
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L821[14:59:04] <MichiBot> Izaya REMINDER: food
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L823[15:44:34] <Vonnie> Hey, anyone here right now?
L824[15:44:45] <Forec​aster> nope
L825[15:44:46] <Va​ur> ?
L826[15:44:47] <Forec​aster> never
L827[15:46:01] <Vonnie> I'm trying to set up a program to send me a desktop notification when i get a redstone signal ingame
L828[15:50:26] <B​ob> TCP sockets
L829[15:51:32] <ThePi​Guy24> %tonk
L830[15:51:32] <MichiBot> Dogast! ThePi​Guy24! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 2 hours, 42 minutes and 31 seconds (By 3 hours, 8 minutes and 56 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L831[15:51:33] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new record is 5 hours, 51 minutes and 28 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.00945 (0.00315 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.02893 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L832[15:52:00] <Vonnie> Okay now, the problem is I don't know how to use lua or anything else
L833[15:52:14] <Vonnie> *any other programming language
L834[15:52:20] <Forec​aster> %lua
L835[15:52:35] <Forec​aster> hm, I thought that was it
L836[15:52:56] <Vonnie> also, i'm ingame rn using MineOS
L837[15:53:12] <Michiyo> %lua print("what")
L838[15:53:12] <MichiBot> what
L839[15:53:19] <ThePi​Guy24> %lua "just executes lua"
L840[15:53:19] <MichiBot> just executes lua
L841[15:53:54] <Michiyo> there is %pil
L842[15:53:54] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html#P1
L843[15:54:02] <B​ob> %tutorial
L844[15:54:02] <MichiBot> B​ob: https://www.tutorialspoint.com/lua/index.htm
L845[15:54:04] <B​ob> here's what i plug
L846[15:54:09] <Forec​aster> that's what I wanted
L847[15:54:34] <B​ob> pil is dense, tutorialspoint's quick overview, PIL is good afterwards
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L849[16:00:18] <Va​ur> rip, he overloaded
L850[16:00:38] <B​ob> MineOS was too much for him
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L852[16:11:01] <Izaya> https://redd.it/kqa7l2
L853[16:12:14] <Izaya> cc Skye and CompanionCube?
L854[16:21:00] <ThePi​Guy24> hmmmm
L855[16:22:04] <ThePi​Guy24> xbox 360 has powerpc 🤔
L856[16:25:57] <Vampyre> mornin
L857[16:27:02] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24: it's not even a weird PPC chip like the PS3 is it
L858[16:27:12] <Izaya> it's just a ... G5 descendant?
L859[16:27:45] <ThePiGuy24> afaik yes maybe?
L860[16:27:54] <Izaya> also
L861[16:27:56] <Izaya> the wii
L862[16:30:19] <Vampyre> powerpc was popular that year?
L863[16:30:37] <Izaya> only real competition to x86
L864[16:30:52] <Vampyre> well, there is still sparc ;-)
L865[16:31:03] <Izaya> at the time, that is
L866[16:31:10] <Izaya> ... though I suppose SPARC was an option
L867[16:31:18] <Izaya> not sure what embedded options there were at the time.
L868[16:31:37] <Vampyre> mips and arm I guess, same as now
L869[16:31:46] <Vampyre> or SH something?
L870[16:31:53] <Z0id​berg> Calling the IRS is fun. Instead of hold music you get dead air for 10 minutes
L871[16:32:10] <Izaya> ARM and MIPS weren't really fast at the time, relatively
L872[16:32:18] <Izaya> SuperH hadn't been developed as much as it should've
L873[16:32:19] <Vampyre> oh, mips was
L874[16:32:28] <Vampyre> don't forget SGI
L875[16:32:33] <Izaya> in the mid 2000s?
L876[16:32:39] <Vampyre> arm, yeah, that was still slow back then
L877[16:32:52] <Izaya> Weren't the later SGI machines Itanium based or something?
L878[16:32:58] <Vampyre> yah, SGI made supercomputers on MIPS even back in the 80s
L879[16:33:29] <Vampyre> maybe they went to itanium? I know HP did at least
L880[16:33:58] <Izaya> after 2005 they were selling x86 machines
L881[16:34:03] <Vampyre> actually, all early pixar movies are made with SGI workstations and servers
L882[16:34:08] <Z0id​berg> Every time I hear SGI now I no longer think of XFS and Irix, I think of the Nintendo 64 and only having 4K of texture cache.
L883[16:34:12] <Izaya> > SGI's premature announcement of its migration from MIPS to Itanium and its abortive ventures into IA-32 architecture systems (the Visual Workstation line, the ex-Intergraph Zx10 range and the SGI 1000-series Linux servers) damaged SGI's credibility in the market.
L884[16:34:32] <Z0id​berg> it was one of the N64's biggest drawbacks
L885[16:34:32] <Vampyre> ah, so they did go for itanium
L886[16:34:39] <Vampyre> no wonder they died ;-)
L887[16:34:49] <Z0id​berg> oh hey now I have hold music after... 12 minutes
L888[16:34:56] <Izaya> anyway, I don't exactly remember when the xb360 and PS3 came out
L889[16:34:56] <Vampyre> shame though, they made beautiful machines
L890[16:35:10] <Izaya> but I feel like PowerPC was the only performant non-x86 option at the time
L891[16:35:17] <Izaya> with embedded options on the market
L892[16:35:32] <Z0id​berg> PPC is actually a neat architecture. For one it is a bi-endian system
L893[16:35:39] <Vampyre> yah, it atleast was the most fiable and popular
L894[16:35:54] <Izaya> Apple only stopped making PPC machines some time between 2003 and 2005
L895[16:36:17] <Z0id​berg> Was it really that long ago
L896[16:36:21] <Z0id​berg> feels like yesterday
L897[16:36:29] <Izaya> and now they're making ARM machines
L898[16:36:34] <Vampyre> heh
L899[16:36:37] <Izaya> after a 15 year hiatus of being irrelevalt
L900[16:36:43] <Izaya> irrelevant*
L901[16:36:43] <Vampyre> lots can changein 15 years apparently
L902[16:37:03] <Z0id​berg> heh. I wonder how the heck they are going to pull off ARM on apple machines
L903[16:37:18] <Izaya> same way they pulled off x86 apple machines, but less depressing
L904[16:37:20] <bad at​ vijya> risc-v machines when
L905[16:37:21] <Z0id​berg> ARM has always been known to have a shit power to watt ratio
L906[16:37:44] <Izaya> well, it's better than x86 on that front at least, even if other RISC designs are better
L907[16:37:53] <Z0id​berg> performance per watt, is a better term
L908[16:38:01] <Z0id​berg> power per watt is weird 😄
L909[16:38:06] <Izaya> if nothing else, a lot of money has been thrown at making ARM power efficient over the last ... 25 years?
L910[16:38:17] <Z0id​berg> I suppose.
L911[16:38:28] <Z0id​berg> Maybe they should play satisfactory
L912[16:38:29] <Z0id​berg> 😄
L913[16:38:44] <Izaya> not that it's ever been particularly power hungry, but it was considered slow for a while there
L914[16:39:10] <Z0id​berg> What you need is a 6502 megacluster run by a family of squirrels
L915[16:39:24] <Izaya> macro-6502s
L916[16:39:34] <Izaya> built out of off-the-shelf TTL chips
L917[16:39:43] <Vampyre> I don't think the core it self matters much these days anyways, it's all amout extensions
L918[16:39:59] <Vampyre> getting 1 opcode to run entire algorithms
L919[16:40:01] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya: literally now https://www.sifive.com/boards/hifive-unmatched
L920[16:40:24] <Z0id​berg> WDC actually quotes out custom multi 6502 core ASIC products.
L921[16:41:38] <ThePi​Guy24> >1GHz 6502 when :p
L922[16:41:43] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: nice
L923[16:41:47] <Izaya> it's probably been done
L924[16:42:01] <Z0id​berg> The thing about the 6502 is that it is still used in many applications even today in industrial applications
L925[16:42:10] <ThePi​Guy24> ngl i just wanna make a real fucking fast beeb
L926[16:42:13] <Z0id​berg> and its variants
L927[16:42:13] <Izaya> the issue is that finding memory that runs happily at that speed is difficult
L928[16:42:16] <bad at​ vijya> TPG: this but unironic
L929[16:42:40] <Izaya> could one run like
L930[16:42:49] <ThePi​Guy24> there was no irony intended :p
L931[16:42:52] <Izaya> DDR4 at 1Ghz but with CL1?
L932[16:42:58] <Izaya> or even CL0?
L933[16:43:13] <Izaya> ... or is there SRAM rated for 1Ghz?
L934[16:43:23] <Izaya> f a s t SRAM
L935[16:43:31] <Izaya> f a S t RAM
L936[16:43:38] <Z0id​berg> yeah good luck finding 1Ghz static memory. you would have a seek and access time combined of MAXIMUM 1ns. Do you realize what that entails?
L937[16:43:41] <ThePi​Guy24> i like sram because its not a fucking pain
L938[16:43:49] <Z0id​berg> 1ns read time is insane
L939[16:43:57] <Z0id​berg> and that is worst case
L940[16:44:22] <Z0id​berg> it would generally have to be in the pico second range to actually work
L941[16:44:55] <Vampyre> I have lot's of 1 GHZ static ram here... it's in my CPU and it's called L1 cache ;-)
L942[16:45:02] <Izaya> how do they make that
L943[16:45:07] <Izaya> and can we get it as its own chip
L944[16:45:23] <Z0id​berg> yeah but that's a chip that has on chip memory with tiny ass transistors that literally don't need any current
L945[16:46:11] <Z0id​berg> the moment you have off chip memory with a large lead coming out of the chip, you run into problems. Though the resistance is less in a larger wire, you face issues like reactance.
L946[16:46:45] <Z0id​berg> getting a signal at that frequency like that would be pretty difficult in a DIP form
L947[16:46:53] <bad at​ vijya> 6502 with cache
L948[16:46:57] <Z0id​berg> heh
L949[16:47:09] <ThePi​Guy24> yes :p
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L951[16:47:41] <Z0id​berg> Do you remember during the days of the K6
L952[16:47:47] <Z0id​berg> you would have DIMM format L2 cache
L953[16:48:11] <ThePi​Guy24> when stuff like that was slow enough to be more than few mm away
L954[16:48:12] <Z0id​berg> usually just above the PCI bus
L955[16:48:28] <ThePi​Guy24> %s/ / a /
L956[16:48:29] <MichiBot> <ThePiGuy24> when stuff like that was slow enough to be more than a few mm away
L957[16:48:32] <Z0id​berg> I had an AMD K6. I think it was 166 Mhz but I don't remember
L958[16:48:55] <Z0id​berg> I'm not even sure what its range was liek anymore.
L959[16:49:07] <Z0id​berg> It was neat, it sat on top of a voltage regulator board that then went into the ZIF socket
L960[16:49:39] <Z0id​berg> For all I know it could have been an adaptor to fit into Intel only boards or something
L961[16:50:03] <Z0id​berg> in the days of the 486 they were interchangable on most boards, but you had to set jumpers to use different chips
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L963[16:52:09] <Z0id​berg> If you think about it though speed is not always important.[
L964[16:52:24] <Z0id​berg> We use way too much information on our computers.
L965[16:53:15] <Z0id​berg> Example: I can make a fully featured 2D game on my pentium 2 that runs at 60fps all the time with time to spare for networking etc. But even then, 400Mhz is WAY TOO MUCH.
L966[16:53:51] <Izaya> > Is that a gun!?
L967[16:54:11] <Izaya> > Relax, it's just a Makarov
L968[16:54:17] <Z0id​berg> lol
L969[16:54:23] <bad at​ vijya> i had a 550MHz K6-2
L970[16:54:38] <Z0id​berg> When I see something like IntelliJ Idea or something slow a computer running at 1Ghz to a complete halt, that is pretty horrible. And whoever uses such things should feel horrible. 😛
L971[16:55:34] <Z0id​berg> I don't care if your IDE fixes the kitchen sink, if I type something, I epect to see what I type on the screen the moment I hit the key.
L972[16:56:13] <bad at​ vijya> yeah just run the autocompleting/other shit in another thread ez
L973[16:56:44] <Z0id​berg> it's not just that, why are we trying to run shit as fast as it possibly can either.
L974[16:57:09] <Z0id​berg> have you never heard of asyncronous waiting and prioritizing features that are important?
L975[16:57:21] <Z0id​berg> an IDE's top priority should be its editor and its editing ability
L976[16:57:29] <ThePi​Guy24> yes
L977[16:57:31] <bad at​ vijya> so
L978[16:57:33] <bad at​ vijya> i'm impatient
L979[16:57:37] <bad at​ vijya> i don't like waiting
L980[16:57:41] <bad at​ vijya> i want things done fast
L981[16:57:47] <bad at​ vijya> and that's why gradle angers me
L982[16:57:51] <Z0id​berg> heh
L983[16:58:23] <bad at​ vijya> i can compile an entire game engine in the time it takes to set up a forge mod
L984[16:58:33] <Z0id​berg> LOL
L985[16:59:05] <Z0id​berg> oh that's another thing too
L986[16:59:36] <Z0id​berg> Why are game engines like Unity and Unreal IDEs? Why not just be a library pack, and then develop and IDE to use said library system if you so wish to use it?
L987[16:59:47] <Izaya> > Yeah, it always tries to get in on the fifth floor. Never let it in.
L988[16:59:54] <Z0id​berg> I should be able to use any language I want and bind to the features that unreal and unity etc provides.
L989[16:59:57] <Izaya> I can understand why this was airing at 2330
L990[17:00:15] <bad at​ vijya> i mean
L991[17:00:23] <bad at​ vijya> i'm using torque 3d for my plane game
L992[17:00:32] <Z0id​berg> what's that like
L993[17:00:44] <Z0id​berg> I remember when torque came out but never looked at it
L994[17:00:46] <bad at​ vijya> mostly because i can expose what i want
L995[17:00:55] <bad at​ vijya> and i can use whatever editor i like
L996[17:01:03] <Z0id​berg> like you should be able to
L997[17:01:04] <bad at​ vijya> it's fine lmao
L998[17:01:19] <ThePi​Guy24> i like godot because i can build a project in a few seconds
L999[17:01:25] <Z0id​berg> heh
L1000[17:01:27] <bad at​ vijya> can write in C, C++, Kotlin/Native, or whatever else
L1001[17:01:47] <bad at​ vijya> if it can interop with C, I can use it to write a game
L1002[17:01:49] <Z0id​berg> We had a giant discussion last night at like 2AM trying to figure out the actual pronounciation of godot
L1003[17:01:55] <Z0id​berg> in voice chat
L1004[17:02:04] <Z0id​berg> it was random and hilarioys
L1005[17:02:07] <ThePi​Guy24> its pronounced godot
L1006[17:02:08] <Izaya> I assume it's like the name of the play
L1007[17:02:08] <Z0id​berg> hilarious*
L1008[17:02:31] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya: get in on this shit
L1009[17:02:33] <Z0id​berg> but does godot force you to use their choice of language and editor etc?
L1010[17:02:34] <Izaya> it's anime stalker
L1011[17:02:41] <bad at​ vijya> Izaya: what
L1012[17:02:49] <Izaya> urasekai picnic
L1013[17:02:55] <bad at​ vijya> oh i've seen that
L1014[17:03:00] <bad at​ vijya> i s2g i showed you it
L1015[17:03:03] <Izaya> first episode out today
L1016[17:03:08] <ThePi​Guy24> you can choose whatever editor you want and there are several languages available
L1017[17:03:25] <Z0id​berg> yeah I just saw that
L1018[17:03:30] <Z0id​berg> godot is a valuable engine then
L1019[17:03:39] <Z0id​berg> That alone makes godot interesting
L1020[17:03:46] <bad at​ vijya> anyways, plane game is probably gonna be written in Kotlin/Native with Lua bindings for making planes/weapons/missions
L1021[17:03:54] <ThePi​Guy24> and you can mix and match afaik :p
L1022[17:04:01] <Izaya> step 1
L1023[17:04:04] <Izaya> observe the monster
L1024[17:04:40] <bad at​ vijya> give me the ability to write C and i will abuse any and all systems
L1025[17:04:46] <Z0id​berg> we also had a big discussion on "notchcode"
L1026[17:04:52] <Z0id​berg> and minecraft in general
L1027[17:05:46] <Z0id​berg> and I basically ended it with a rant saying "if a couple of mods for fabric can make Minecraft run 20x faster to the point that it is now realtime on a pentium 4 then WHAT THE %^& were the developers drunk when they wrote it?"
L1028[17:05:53] <Izaya> oh shit I wasn't expecting observing the monster to actually be the idea
L1029[17:06:15] <bad at​ vijya> wait
L1030[17:06:17] <Z0id​berg> as in everyone who has worked on Minecraft's codebase
L1031[17:06:19] <ThePi​Guy24> https://github.com/Vivraan/godot-lang-support/
L1032[17:06:24] <bad at​ vijya> what era of pentium 4 are we talking about
L1033[17:06:34] <Z0id​berg> Well I had a 3Ghz Prescott
L1034[17:06:38] <bad at​ vijya> oh god
L1035[17:06:41] <bad at​ vijya> what the fuck
L1036[17:07:54] <ThePi​Guy24> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/asosohubik
L1037[17:08:24] * Izaya gives ThePiGuy24 Minetest
L1038[17:08:47] <ThePi​Guy24> thats cheating because its not java :p
L1039[17:09:13] <Izaya> and that's a good thing!
L1040[17:10:15] <ThePi​Guy24> yes
L1041[17:17:02] <Ko​dos> Zoid, how's Satisfactory? Resources still persistently in the same spot every time you make a new game?
L1042[17:17:05] <Z0id​berg> I used to shit on Java now I just realize it's just another one of those languages that tend to attract the kjind of developers that think using 4GB of ram to print hello world is okay
L1043[17:17:29] <Z0id​berg> @Kodos AMAZING.
L1044[17:17:39] <Z0id​berg> I have been playing it nonstop almost
L1045[17:17:40] <bad at​ vijya> JVM is neat
L1046[17:17:58] <Z0id​berg> @Kodos That hasn;t changed and I hope it does
L1047[17:18:03] <Z0id​berg> but the map is mage ginormous huge
L1048[17:18:13] <Ko​dos> Yeah, but muh procedural generation
L1049[17:18:18] <Z0id​berg> yeah...
L1050[17:18:33] <Z0id​berg> I have a feeling ill get tired of that eventually but for now...
L1051[17:18:52] <Z0id​berg> I have explored far and wide and havent even reach another spawn location yet
L1052[17:19:26] <Z0id​berg> It is procedural generated I guarantee it, its just preset
L1053[17:19:44] <Z0id​berg> probably because the generation they used they had to try many times to get one that was "reasonable" and then edit it from there
L1054[17:19:57] <Z0id​berg> but honestly I don't care about reasonabl;e
L1055[17:20:13] <Z0id​berg> I actually preferred Minecraft's beta generation which was shit and that made it awesome.
L1056[17:20:28] <Z0id​berg> I liked my floating upside down mountains in the sky
L1057[17:22:53] <Ko​dos> Lol
L1058[17:36:11] <Izaya> the other neat part is that any biome could have any terrain
L1059[17:39:45] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dsbj8NrUwAAxoVs.jpg?name=orig
L1060[17:39:57] <Izaya> apparently it's openly inspired by stalker and roadside picnic
L1061[17:39:58] <Izaya> neat
L1062[17:41:05] <bad at​ vijya> yes
L1063[17:41:18] <Izaya> and also yuri
L1064[17:41:20] <Izaya> this is uh
L1065[17:41:22] <Izaya> yeah
L1066[17:41:23] <bad at​ vijya> currently i'm working out what to work on first for plane game
L1067[17:41:27] <Izaya> this checks all the boxes
L1068[17:41:27] <bad at​ vijya> i mean hey
L1069[17:41:44] <Izaya> why am I even writing when this exists
L1070[17:46:39] <Michiyo> I hate the fuckin IRS.
L1071[17:47:36] <Z0id​berg> I got a call from someone else so I had to hang up. I was on hold for like half an hour at least
L1072[17:47:46] <Z0id​berg> Kind of expected with all the stimulus stuff rolling out and taxes coming up
L1073[17:47:49] <Izaya> didn't get a tax bill last year
L1074[17:47:55] <Izaya> calling that a win
L1075[17:48:03] <Z0id​berg> I never have
L1076[17:48:21] <Izaya> I'm pretty sure I don't make enough money to pay tax
L1077[17:48:23] <ThePi​Guy24> mmm калаш
L1078[17:48:40] <ThePi​Guy24> milled too
L1079[17:48:48] <Izaya> but I was going to burn that bridge when I got a bill in the mail tbh
L1080[17:49:09] <Z0id​berg> if you're an organized person, then the best thing to do in the US is actually not participate in taxes taken out of your account when you get hired, and then pay them direct at the end of the tax year.
L1081[17:49:17] <Z0id​berg> that way you will always get the maximum refund.
L1082[17:49:25] <Izaya> see
L1083[17:49:29] <Z0id​berg> because they never had your money to spend to begin with
L1084[17:49:30] <Izaya> here in the civilized world
L1085[17:49:46] <Z0id​berg> LOL
L1086[17:50:01] <Z0id​berg> I love how you say that like Maine is uncivilized (becaus eit's kinda true at many levels XD)
L1087[17:50:03] <Izaya> they reinstated government-managed tax after WWII
L1088[17:50:13] <Izaya> maine? no, maine seems pleasant. I mean the US.
L1089[17:50:29] <Z0id​berg> Maine is kind of a shit show honestly
L1090[17:50:49] <Amanda> the us makes you guess your tax bill, and ifyou underpay, you go to jail! (unless you're rich enough to have an army of lawyers )
L1091[17:51:08] <Z0id​berg> People have been invading us for the past hundred years and taking over our industry and changing regulation and enforcing stupid laws and other things
L1092[17:51:27] <Izaya> here you aim to overpay slightly so at the end of the financial year you get a little money back from the tax office
L1093[17:51:51] <Z0id​berg> It's why if you weren't born in Maine, and if you move to Maine even if you're an infant and you are there a hundred years you will still be called an outsider, or as we call it "from away"
L1094[17:52:13] <Izaya> I take that back, Maine doesn't seem pleasant.
L1095[17:52:18] <Z0id​berg> hah
L1096[17:52:25] <Izaya> maine pls go
L1097[17:52:32] <Z0id​berg> Like I said, people have literally been ruining and controlling us
L1098[17:52:37] <Izaya> friendship with maine ended, alaska is my best friend now
L1099[17:52:42] <Z0id​berg> telling us what to do and crap like that
L1100[17:53:00] <Z0id​berg> Alaska honestly I think is in a similar situation
L1101[17:53:08] <bad at​ vijya> wyoming
L1102[17:53:14] <bad at​ vijya> nothing is im wyoming
L1103[17:53:17] <Izaya> with a name like wyoming
L1104[17:53:20] <Izaya> it can't be real anyway
L1105[17:53:24] <Z0id​berg> ha
L1106[17:53:38] <Z0id​berg> there's also arkansas
L1107[17:53:48] <Z0id​berg> where people live that can't pronounce ar-kansas.
L1108[17:53:50] <Izaya> brb gotta take the coolamon scenic drive to bangalow
L1109[17:53:50] <bad at​ vijya> montana
L1110[17:53:59] <Z0id​berg> they call it arkansaw like a bunch of weirdos
L1111[17:54:26] <Z0id​berg> its either that or its arkansaw pronounced and they just can't spell for shit which is more likely
L1112[17:54:50] <bad at​ vijya> is it ar-kansaw/kansaw or ar-kanas/arkanas
L1113[17:54:54] <Izaya> https://chaos.social/system/media_attachments/files/105/497/431/419/605/175/original/51a8d32835855d8c.png
L1114[17:55:08] <Z0id​berg> where's the rotini
L1115[17:55:19] <Z0id​berg> I'm hungry now
L1116[17:56:16] * Michiyo sighs
L1117[17:56:19] <Z0id​berg> mostly what pisses us off though is that; Buncha people moved in, ruined our paradise we call Maine, and then converted Maine into a tourist state.
L1118[17:56:25] <Z0id​berg> Maine gets a lot of its income from tourism now.
L1119[17:56:48] <Izaya> I would have more sympathy if americans weren't so big on doing that everywhere else too
L1120[17:56:58] <Z0id​berg> they shut down our train system, shut down our mills, shut down our quarries...
L1121[17:56:58] <Izaya> :)
L1122[17:57:18] <Z0id​berg> Well this is true
L1123[17:57:45] <Z0id​berg> but the thing is that makes it so potent, is that Maine (And Alaska) are sort of "away from the US" including Hawaii
L1124[17:58:26] <Izaya> I'd prefer internal fuckery to external fuckery
L1125[17:58:31] <Z0id​berg> it's very out of the way to get into Maine, driving to MAien in new england takes a LONG time, you can't make a lot of terrain fast because of the mountains and everything else. So, Maine was actually sealed off from modern industry for a very long time.
L1126[17:59:08] <Z0id​berg> and once you get in Maine there's a lot of driving to get where you want to go, unless you go to portland which is full of non mainers.
L1127[18:00:23] <Z0id​berg> So the modern world slowly slowly creeped in over the past couple hundred years, and in the 1960s the interstate was built here, and then within months, a lot of towns became ghost towns and dissapeared, and everything whent exponential wtfery
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L1129[18:01:54] <Z0id​berg> meanwhile people got ahold of business and took over the railroad and opened it up to the poublic, sold it to conneticuit, which decided that they wanted to reduce train capacity down to like 10% or less, so that factories and mills got visits from the train once a month instead of multiple times a day. Suddenly, all of the mills started closing down, and many towns dissapeared again because it was 90% of the workforce
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L1132[18:03:59] <Z0id​berg> We also had problems with people from out of state wanting to help us increase power output because at the time electricity wasn't the norm yet, and ended up abusing the legal system to get dams put in and flood drowned towns under man made lakes
L1133[18:04:14] <Z0id​berg> That's an issue that has happened elsewhere in other parts of the world too
L1134[18:05:18] <Z0id​berg> I actually got a call from that same power company a while back asking if I support the petition for an energy channel to massechusettes or some random crap and I said "no fuck you guys, I know what you did last time"
L1135[18:06:49] <Z0id​berg> The lady was so confused, and I told her to google "flagstaff lake" and I could sense she was almost unprofessional enough to freak out but she seemed to hold herself mostly.
L1136[18:07:20] <Z0id​berg> Any good marketer / support person would handle that
L1137[18:09:11] <Z0id​berg> https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/maine/creepy-ghost-town-me-2/
L1138[18:20:19] <Vampyre> I think I heared about that story
L1139[18:20:50] <Vampyre> Wern't soem buildings uncovered a few years back when the water levels were real low?
L1140[18:38:38] <Z0id​berg> yes.
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L1142[18:38:48] <Z0id​berg> you can see the rooftops when its low and sometimes the flagstaff.
L1143[18:39:00] <Z0id​berg> it was the same flagstaff that was there in the 1800s
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L1145[18:40:27] <Z0id​berg> According to the old article in the newspaper from 1949, apparently they questioned what tod do with it:
L1146[18:40:28] <Z0id​berg> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584106582359408660/795717701880381481/Boston20Globe20article.png
L1147[18:41:03] <T​NT> is there a way to permanently keep a drone in the air (excluding the diabaling power option)
L1148[18:41:38] <ThePi​Guy24> solar upgrade and hope it has enough energy to last the night
L1149[18:41:55] <T​NT> well imma try
L1150[18:41:59] <ThePi​Guy24> or generator upgrade and refuel it periodically
L1151[18:42:25] <T​NT> nope it has to be self sustaining
L1152[18:42:46] <ThePi​Guy24> ah
L1153[18:50:10] <Z0id​berg> Ooh $30 for LP rage against the machine
L1154[18:50:38] <Z0id​berg> oh meh it's a 2013 re press
L1155[18:51:31] <Z0id​berg> They can keep their album then, I'm not paying for it. fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
L1156[18:58:47] <Z0id​berg> OOH you know what
L1157[18:58:50] <Z0id​berg> I did find this
L1158[18:58:51] <Z0id​berg> https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/1191278896?ev=bp_det
L1159[18:59:15] <Z0id​berg> But...
L1160[18:59:39] <Z0id​berg> this is not what I'm looking for either
L1161[19:01:54] <Z0id​berg> found it
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L1163[19:33:09] <Z0id​berg> Wait what the heck
L1164[19:34:23] <Z0id​berg> Pokey: How is Ness?
L1165[19:34:39] <Pokey> Eh?
L1166[19:35:22] <Z0id​berg> This one does not know Pokey
L1167[19:35:37] * Pokey is massively confused
L1168[19:36:26] <Michiyo> EarthBound reference I'd assume.
L1169[19:42:51] <T​NT> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/semomeqacu
L1170[19:43:09] <T​NT> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ukulilicut [Edited]
L1171[19:43:44] <T​NT> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ikelibesul
L1172[19:43:44] <T​NT> it errors for some reason pls help [Edited]
L1173[19:43:57] <T​NT> the error https://tinyurl.com/y3uc9dhg
L1174[19:46:29] <Z0id​berg> Nooooooooooooooooooo
L1175[19:46:34] <Z0id​berg> ew
L1176[19:46:46] <Z0id​berg> whyy
L1177[19:47:13] <T​NT> wdym?
L1178[19:48:40] <Forec​aster> "for some reason"
L1179[19:48:45] <Forec​aster> maybe the reason is that pos is nil
L1180[19:49:06] <T​NT> well why is it nil?
L1181[19:49:07] <B​ob> the error clearly tells the issue
L1182[19:49:13] <Michiyo> If only there was an error somewhere that mentioned that
L1183[19:49:13] <B​ob> because something returned nil
L1184[19:49:57] <Forec​aster> because the request didn't return anything, perhaps
L1185[19:50:40] <Forec​aster> maybe check the response headers and see what's returned
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L1188[20:01:29] <Forec​aster> https://xkcd.com/2407/
L1189[20:01:41] <Forec​aster> I do a bread-first search some mornings
L1190[20:01:59] <Forec​aster> it's a sub-routine in the breakfast-search
L1191[20:02:46] <T​NT> ye i sometimes use it too! 😄
L1192[20:03:45] <Z0id​berg> the funny part, is that even though its not called bread first, if you are performing a write, that's actually a persistent tree write style.
L1193[20:04:20] <Z0id​berg> except that the root is generally duplicated
L1194[20:10:23] <T​NT> soo if a drone runs out of power it turns off and then charges back up via solar does it reboot?
L1195[20:12:47] <ThePi​Guy24> no
L1196[20:13:54] <Forec​aster> it wont start itself back up no
L1197[20:14:09] <Forec​aster> maybe if you enable wake-on-lan and it receives the signal to boot
L1198[20:15:59] <T​NT> idk
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L1200[20:44:17] <bad at​ vijya> this is fine https://tinyurl.com/y4pl9a6p
L1201[20:45:06] <T​NT> anyone got a pach for the OC tcp bug?
L1202[20:45:12] <i develo​p things> kristopher38 does i think
L1203[20:45:56] <Michiyo> there is a TCP bug?
L1204[20:46:04] <T​NT> yess
L1205[20:46:20] <i develo​p things> something with TCP sockets closing breaks internet_ready events, or something like that
L1206[20:46:27] <T​NT> yup
L1207[20:53:12] <Amanda> AIUI the only bug is one that SquidDev has a PR in for where if you try and open a connection to a blocked port, internet_ready dies for the rest of the world's runtime
L1208[20:53:21] <SquidDev> I do?
L1209[20:53:24] <Amanda> s/port/address
L1210[20:53:24] <MichiBot> <Amanda> AIUI the only bug is one that SquidDev has a PR in for where if you try and open a connection to a blocked address, internet_ready dies for the rest of the world's runtime
L1211[20:53:27] <Amanda> was it not you?
L1212[20:53:30] <SquidDev> Nope.
L1213[20:54:23] <Amanda> oh, no, it's fingercomp
L1214[20:54:28] <Amanda> whttps://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/3321
L1215[20:54:31] <Amanda> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/3321
L1216[20:55:06] <SquidDev> I'm so glad I didn't go near raw TCP sockets in CC:T. They scare me.
L1217[20:56:11] <ThePi​Guy24> you just went for wonky websockets instead :p
L1218[20:56:35] <SquidDev> Netty handles all the scary stuff for me!
L1219[20:56:45] <bad at​ vijya> so
L1220[20:56:50] <bad at​ vijya> i landed my crippled plane
L1221[20:56:53] <bad at​ vijya> in the ocean
L1222[20:57:07] <bad at​ vijya> mostly because i couldn't control it easily and i felt like it was gonna stall any second
L1223[20:57:31] <bad at​ vijya> also pretty sure i only had two of my three landing gear https://tinyurl.com/y4of6wvk
L1224[20:57:53] <bad at​ vijya> yes
L1225[20:58:02] <bad at​ vijya> the other one was on the other engine
L1226[20:58:57] <ThePi​Guy24> this is clearly susperior air vehicle https://tinyurl.com/yyz2fvbm
L1227[20:59:47] <bad at​ vijya> have i not posted my aluminium death tube here?
L1228[21:00:24] <T​NT> ok idk what's wrong
L1229[21:00:44] <T​NT> the socket just aint transmitting anythin
L1230[21:00:50] <ThePi​Guy24> however this is the optimal air transport vehicle https://tinyurl.com/y6y35p9j
L1231[21:01:34] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/y5gcnwqz
L1232[21:02:25] <bad at​ vijya> this thing makes the starfighter look safe
L1233[21:08:13] <bad at​ vijya> it's a little flacid
L1234[21:08:18] <bad at​ vijya> likes to wiggle around at high speeds
L1235[21:08:21] <bad at​ vijya> it's fine though
L1236[21:51:33] <Forecaster> %restart
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L1239[21:51:50] zsh sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L1240[21:52:18] <Forecaster> ?sip
L1241[21:52:26] <Forecaster> no that's not it
L1242[21:52:28] <Forecaster> %sip
L1243[21:52:30] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy aluminium potion (New!). Forecaster's favourite skin is suddenly fire.
L1244[21:52:38] <Forecaster> aw man, I was using that
L1245[22:24:37] <Ko​dos> %sip
L1246[22:24:39] <MichiBot> You drink a goopy water potion (New!). Kodos's left sock is now cursed.
L1247[22:26:47] <Brisingr​Aerowing> %sip
L1248[22:29:49] <Forecaster> %restart
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L1252[22:31:30] <Forec​aster> now research points actually do something
L1253[22:31:31] <Forec​aster> maybe
L1254[22:36:15] <Va​ur> %tonkout
L1255[22:36:16] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket! Va​ur! You beat ThePi​Guy24's previous record of 5 hours, 51 minutes and 28 seconds (By 53 minutes and 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1256[22:36:17] <MichiBot> Va​ur has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.02732. Position #3 Need 0.00335 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
L1257[22:38:14] <Forec​aster> %sip
L1258[22:38:14] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy aqua potion (New!). A bard starts playing a lute behind Forecaster. They don't stop.
L1259[22:38:22] <Forec​aster> %stab the bard
L1260[22:38:23] <MichiBot> Forec​aster is trying to stab the! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L1261[22:41:04] <bad at​ vijya> pinephone soon™️
L1262[22:41:10] <bad at​ vijya> well
L1263[22:41:14] <bad at​ vijya> dispatch soon
L1264[22:41:20] <Michiyo> Do not stab thee! Stab thine self instead @"Forecaster" !
L1265[22:41:41] <Forec​aster> no D:
L1266[22:41:46] <ThePi​Guy24> stab the twine
L1267[22:43:37] <MichiBot> Forecaster is stabbing the with bard for 1d4 => 3 damage!
L1268[22:43:50] <Michiyo> stabbing the with bard. neato.
L1269[22:43:50] <Michiyo> lol
L1270[22:44:18] <Forec​aster> oh, right
L1271[22:44:23] <Forec​aster> %stab syntax
L1272[22:44:24] <MichiBot> Forec​aster is trying to stab syntax! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L1273[22:44:31] <Michiyo> kaaaaaaaay lol
L1274[22:44:33] <Forec​aster> well damn
L1275[22:44:41] <Michiyo> Poor syntax...
L1276[22:44:48] <Michiyo> %stab "the bard"
L1277[22:44:49] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo is trying to stab the bard! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L1278[22:45:10] <Forec​aster> I guess that doesn't work for the magic subcommand aliases
L1279[22:45:43] <Forec​aster> %attack syntax
L1280[22:47:34] <Amanda> IT's a me kitten! https://imgur.com/gallery/SUx5CNG
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L1284[23:01:50] <Forec​aster> need to have a look at the magic syntax parameter tomorrow, see that it works across the board
L1285[23:07:30] <Forec​aster> %sip
L1286[23:07:30] <MichiBot> You drink a thick honey potion (New!). Forecaster knows the exact location of a particular molecule of oxygen until they have some bacon.
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L1288[23:14:31] <Forec​aster> https://imgur.com/gallery/CKcdNGZ
L1289[23:17:01] <Michiyo> Hey umm
L1290[23:17:12] <Michiyo> my attack against The Bard never went off
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L1292[23:24:47] <Forec​aster> Yeah that happens sometimes
L1293[23:24:53] <Forec​aster> No idea why
L1294[23:25:54] <Forec​aster> There's no error, probably because it's an event handler
L1295[23:26:31] <Forec​aster> Another thing I need to look into more at some point
L1296[23:46:08] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L1297[23:46:09] <MichiBot> Yay! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 9 minutes and 53 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1298[23:46:10] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 9 minutes and 53 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00116 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.01772 more points to pass Va​ur!
L1299[23:52:58] <Shuud​oushi> Holy fuck graphics cards are expensive right now o.o
L1300[23:53:54] <Izaya> yup
L1301[23:53:57] <Izaya> and unobtainable
L1302[23:54:07] <i develo​p things> yeah
L1303[23:54:16] <i develo​p things> even the rx 580 is like $150
L1304[23:54:19] <Izaya> I'd say don't try, but I said that a year ago and now it's worse
L1305[23:54:24] <Michiyo> I've got a 260 I could ship you :P
L1306[23:54:35] <Izaya> again, GTX 980 4GB for 200AUD plus shipping
L1307[23:54:40] <i develo​p things> eh, i want a 5500
L1308[23:54:58] <Izaya> supports vulkan, supports opengl
L1309[23:55:11] <Izaya> only downside is the relatively small amount of VRAM vs newer cards
L1310[23:55:19] <CompanionCube> what is it this time? hopefully not crypto
L1311[23:55:20] <i develo​p things> i also don't want n🅱️idia
L1312[23:55:40] <Izaya> CompanionCube: low yields
L1313[23:55:58] <Izaya> and ig they're not designed to be cut up like ryzen chips
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