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L1[00:09:49] <Kristo​pher38> Webchat177: this change is only on the dev builds
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L3[00:33:55] <Webchat177> Obviously not, it introduced the change with getPosition()
L4[00:34:07] <Webchat177> It didn't use that function before
L5[00:34:32] <Webchat177> Except if 1.7.5.1356 is a dev build
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L10[00:58:14] <simon816> %tonksnipe count
L11[00:58:15] <MichiBot> simo​n816: You have 1 Blue Shell, 3 Red Shells, and 5 Green Shells
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L15[01:01:13] <simon816> %blueshell CompanionCube
L16[01:01:14] <MichiBot> simo​n816: You hit CompanionCube! They lost 0.21652798 tonk points which you gain! Congratulations! Position #8 => #7 (Overtook Ocawesome101) Need 0.04777202 more points to pass Li​zzy!
L17[01:01:50] <CompanionCube> oh noes my lead :(
L18[01:02:22] <simon816> gotta use my shells before the end of the year :p
L19[01:03:07] <CompanionCube> my green and red shells are pretty useless
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L22[01:17:27] <Amanda> Izaya: I have no clue how you can stomach starting a whole new save. I barely want to pull the safety ripcord of loading my save from yesterday to avoid a potential unavoidable starvation spiral
L23[01:17:58] <Amanda> (in oni)
L24[01:20:39] <Amanda> If there is any kind of tech tree I loathe starting from scratch. I'm more likely to drop the game
L25[01:22:05] <Izaya> see I've worked out how to cheese the KSP tech tree so it's nbd
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L28[01:25:10] <CompanionCube> imagine having that nick lol
L29[01:25:11] <ThePi​Guy24> нет Путин
L30[01:26:45] <Amanda> How dare you say that about my.mltber, TPG
L31[01:26:56] <Amanda> My mother*
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L33[01:27:59] <CompanionCube> same IP, 0/10
L34[01:28:15] <ThePi​Guy24> russian spies really need to step up their game :p
L35[01:28:55] <vvad3n> hello comrade
L36[01:29:05] <vvad3n> i am sorry about the ip situation
L37[01:29:15] <vvad3n> that was the wrong account
L38[01:29:19] <ThePi​Guy24> привет товарищ
L39[01:29:22] <Amanda> The misinformation department has enough trouble keeping location turned off on their twitter sick puppets
L40[01:29:31] <Amanda> Sock*
L41[01:30:37] <vvad3n> Sup guys?
L42[01:30:45] <ThePi​Guy24> usually the sky
L43[01:30:52] <Amanda> There is no guys here, only us girls
L44[01:31:07] <vvad3n> that is a great answer
L45[01:31:19] <Amanda> Masculinity is a myth, therefore everyone is femme
L46[01:31:28] * Amanda nods sagely
L47[01:31:44] <ThePi​Guy24> gender is a myth, everyone here is person
L48[01:32:03] <vvad3n> I mean as far as I'm concered this is a really well done sim
L49[01:32:14] <Amanda> %choose observe puppers or Greece or other somebody-elses-computer
L50[01:32:15] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Why not all three? Okay fine. "other somebody-elses-computer".
L51[01:32:17] <ThePi​Guy24> shit theyre onto us
L52[01:32:18] <vvad3n> I have no proof that anything is on the other side of this chatbox
L53[01:32:19] <Michiyo> Webchat177, ALL of the builds on Jenkins are "Dev builds"
L54[01:32:25] <Michiyo> if you got it from ci.cil.li, it's a dev build.
L55[01:32:45] <Webchat177> I got it from a modpack...
L56[01:32:50] <vvad3n> same here
L57[01:32:52] <Amanda> That's okay vvad3n, you're actually the simulation
L58[01:32:55] <Webchat177> That's the main reason I can't downgrade :'(
L59[01:32:59] <Michiyo> the last release build was "Nov 16, 2019"
L60[01:33:04] <Kristo​pher38> solipsism frick off >:(
L61[01:33:19] <ThePi​Guy24> maybe the real simulation was the friends we made along the way
L62[01:33:22] <Webchat177> I'll just have to patch it to use the old logic, shouldn't break client compatibility
L63[01:33:28] <vvad3n> I mean
L64[01:33:28] <Michiyo> Then THEY got it from Jenkins instead of going with the latest official release.
L65[01:34:19] <vvad3n> I mean we're just sitting in a modpack server, so I have no clue where you human beings* got it from
L66[01:34:36] <Michiyo> You should likely go slap whoever builds that pack. Let 'em know that non release builds are not 100% safe.
L67[01:35:53] <Webchat177> I will
L68[01:36:03] <Amanda> make sure to use a trout
L69[01:36:08] <Amanda> they're best for slapping
L70[01:36:50] <Amanda> %choose radiation; interactive or passive
L71[01:36:51] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: interactive radiation
L72[01:38:22] <Michiyo> It's been a while since I did anything to keep me on the contributor list... let's see if I can fix that :P
L73[01:39:06] <Amanda> %choose 2d or 3d
L74[01:39:07] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I've heard "2d" is in these days
L75[01:39:43] * Michiyo sighs at Scala
L76[01:40:01] <Izaya> Amanda: under your classifications, are VNs radiation or hallucination?
L77[01:40:01] <Amanda> %choose celeste or steamworld
L78[01:40:02] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Hold on tightly! "celeste" is a wild ride!
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L80[01:40:54] <Vexatos> Amanda, celeste
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L82[01:42:29] <Ariri> Radiation, I believe
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L86[01:54:33] <Amanda> Izaya: notsure, I don't really play them much
L87[01:55:14] <Amanda> so I'm not really sure if it'd be the same as how halucinations on a radiation-providing screen are still halucinations or not for me
L88[01:55:26] <Amanda> s/or not//
L89[01:55:27] <MichiBot> <Amanda> so I'm not really sure if it'd be the same as how halucinations on a radiation-providing screen are still halucinations for me
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L91[02:01:07] <Amanda> okay, celeste immediately hit my skill ceiling for tonight, observe puppers time
L92[02:05:12] <Izaya> still waiting for that to release :<
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L95[03:44:06] <Amanda> %tell Inari ne ne, lemme scan your brain! Then you can "live" forever!
L96[03:44:07] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L97[03:57:13] <Ocawesome101> e
L98[03:57:37] <Ocawesome101> serenity os refused to fully work on my desktop, in qemu, from a fresh build :/
L99[03:57:42] <Ocawesome101> so sad
L100[03:58:46] <Michiyo> Amanda, I'll agree to brain scanage, if you can.... fix some things
L101[03:58:47] <Michiyo> :D
L102[03:59:22] <Michiyo> nuke the Migraines for one... >_>
L103[04:00:04] <Amanda> Don't worry, in sure they'll end up on the cutting room floor!
L104[04:00:26] <Amanda> I'm sure*
L105[04:01:16] <Michiyo> last damn thing I want is any version of me "Living forever" with these fuckers
L106[04:01:33] <Vampyre> is GPL accepted on OPPM or is MIT prevered?
L107[04:02:55] <Ocawesome101> any license should be fine i think
L108[04:03:07] <Vampyre> ok
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L110[04:13:05] <Ocawesome101> eyyyy apotheosis can be logged into again
L111[04:13:18] <Ocawesome101> did yet more restructuring of the terminal system
L112[04:13:29] <Ocawesome101> should have better(TM) multiterminal support
L113[04:13:41] <Ocawesome101> not dynamic unfortunately but that makes it simpler
L114[04:23:02] <Ocawesome101> also am working on minitel support for paragon
L115[04:23:03] <Ocawesome101> finally
L116[04:23:13] <Ocawesome101> after having had a stub script almost since starting dev work
L117[04:32:52] <Michiyo> Damn it... ok 8:30 PM on a Sunday, with a migraine is a GREAT time to try to finish a new feature to OpenSecurity, right?
L118[04:33:29] <Ocawesome101> definitely lmao
L119[04:33:43] <B​ob> Always coding when high so
L120[04:33:46] <Ocawesome101> i thought that said saturday for a moment :/
L121[04:33:52] <Michiyo> Could not create an instance of Tooling API implementation using the specified Gradle distribution 'https://services.gradle.org/distributions/gradle-4.1-bin.zip'.
L122[04:33:53] <Michiyo> Could not determine java version from '14.0.2'.
L123[04:33:56] <Michiyo> Fuck you.
L124[04:33:58] <B​ob> i do regret comming back to the codebase afterwards but if i dont its perfect
L125[04:36:04] <Michiyo> I don't even understand WHY you're trying to use 14.0.2.... I have 1.8 set in the JRE config
L126[04:36:19] <Michiyo> Do I even HAVE 14.0.2 installed?
L127[04:36:53] <Michiyo> Nope...
L128[04:37:10] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/dYkmC97FKJbm3wG
L129[04:37:17] <B​ob> ~~just update launchwrapper duh, java 8 is dead~~
L130[04:37:43] <B​ob> Java 6 o_o
L131[04:38:15] <Michiyo> Required for the KVM on both my OVH Dedicated box, AND the remote for my local server
L132[04:39:12] <B​ob> at this point i would call that an artefact
L133[04:41:18] <Michiyo> That's nice...
L134[04:41:32] <Michiyo> Doesn't change the fact that I don't have 14 installed so WTF is it even trying to do
L135[04:44:01] <B​ob> IntelliJ internally uses newer Java probably, if you're even using it i guess
L136[05:31:33] <Michiyo> \o/ I fixed it...
L137[05:31:34] <Michiyo> finally
L138[05:31:48] <Michiyo> I upgraded to the wrapper that the latest 1.12 MDK uses
L139[05:37:26] <B​ob> 🤔
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L142[05:58:27] <Izaya> Ocawesome101: is your terminal system flexible enough to support remote login? :D
L143[06:02:13] <Ocawesome101> Izaya: i think so
L144[06:02:22] <Ocawesome101> i'm working on minitel support for that exact reason
L145[06:02:24] <Izaya> excellent
L146[06:02:27] <Izaya> I will endeavour to - yeah
L147[06:02:40] <Ocawesome101> all you have to do is redirect stdin/stdout over the network and boom golden
L148[06:02:50] <Izaya> as it should be
L149[06:02:54] <Ocawesome101> :)
L150[06:03:03] <Izaya> or if you prefer
L151[06:03:07] <Izaya> as Haruhi intended
L152[06:03:12] <Ocawesome101> heh
L153[06:03:15] <Ocawesome101> who's haruhi
L154[06:04:18] <Izaya> https://files.catbox.moe/yuusup.png The one true god (Probably.)
L155[06:04:45] <Ocawesome101> an anime character
L156[06:04:49] <Ocawesome101> i thought it sounded japanese
L157[06:06:13] <Ocawesome101> eyy, it boots with the minitel stuff loaded :D
L158[06:06:30] <Ocawesome101> [kworker-mtel]
L159[06:06:49] <Ocawesome101> that's the packet pusher thread because i don't have timers at the kernel level
L160[06:06:54] <Ocawesome101> s/thread/process/
L161[06:06:55] <MichiBot> <Ocawesome101> that's the packet pusher process because i don't have timers at the kernel level
L162[06:07:20] <Izaya> well, user space is where networking belongs :^)
L163[06:07:29] <Ocawesome101> yknow
L164[06:07:33] <Ocawesome101> it works fine in the kernel
L165[06:07:38] <Ocawesome101> and i'm not bundling the minitel lib
L166[06:07:42] <Ocawesome101> that's a job for userspace
L167[06:07:57] <Ocawesome101> i'm just bundling a port of the OpenOS RC service
L168[06:08:28] <Izaya> I was just jabbing at non-micro kernels
L169[06:08:32] <Ocawesome101> lol
L170[06:09:06] <Ocawesome101> microkernels are neat but i haven't ever been able to properly write a working one :(
L171[06:09:40] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L172[06:09:40] <MichiBot> Fudge! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 8 hours, 20 minutes and 9 seconds (By 1 hour, 20 minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L173[06:09:41] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.009 tonk points! plus 0.008 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.7890085. Position #1
L174[06:10:05] <Izaya> leaning hard into one or the other isn't ideal in OC
L175[06:10:19] <Ocawesome101> entirely fair
L176[06:10:24] <Izaya> Lua is flexible enough that the distinction between userspace and kernel space can be whatever you want
L177[06:10:27] <Ocawesome101> paragon leans pretty heavily towards monolithic
L178[06:12:06] <Ocawesome101> holy shit
L179[06:12:14] <Ocawesome101> paragon with everything included (not minified) is 108K
L180[06:12:31] <Ocawesome101> that's like a third the size of the entire monolith system lmao
L181[06:12:55] <Ocawesome101> the entire system including docs is 508K
L182[06:13:33] <Izaya> tfw PsychOS with all the bells and whistles doesn't fit in the tmpfs any more
L183[06:13:43] <Ocawesome101> heh
L184[06:13:44] <Izaya> though if you don't copy the init.lua to the tmpfs it still does
L185[06:13:55] <Ocawesome101> tfw apotheosis barely fits on a floppy disk
L186[06:14:04] <Izaya> still works on a tape /o/
L187[06:14:07] <Ocawesome101> though iirc plan9k doesn't fit at all xP
L188[06:14:50] <Ocawesome101> huh neat
L189[06:15:03] <Izaya> PsychOS on tape is mildly cursed
L190[06:15:08] <Ocawesome101> the paragon kernel is about 4250 lines
L191[06:15:19] <Ocawesome101> and the entire apotheosis system is 7470 lines
L192[06:15:27] <Ocawesome101> the kernel is more than half the entire system lmao
L193[06:15:59] <Izaya> if you don't rewind the tape when you save the system state to disk
L194[06:16:17] <Izaya> it'll just append to the archive
L195[06:16:22] <Ocawesome101> lmao
L196[06:16:31] <Izaya> which means you get file history for free!
L197[06:16:45] <Izaya> but also that loading times increase with my loader
L198[06:17:00] <Izaya> because it doesn't check for duplicates
L199[06:17:32] <Izaya> I guess the idea would be to have a table in memory of file start locations, read the tape once to find them, then copy the latest to the tmpfs
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L203[06:31:58] <Ocawesome101> Izaya: if you want to try it (and if you do please give feedback, it's still in heavy development!) apotheosis is at https://github.com/ocawesome101/oc-apotheosis
L204[06:32:07] <Ocawesome101> make sure you clone with --recursive because submodules
L205[06:37:48] <Izaya> fancy
L206[06:37:54] <Izaya> I will give it a go eventually™
L207[06:38:15] <Ocawesome101> :thumbsup:
L208[06:50:07] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L209[06:50:08] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube: You gotta tonk before you can tonk out. For this transgression the timer has been reset.
L210[06:50:11] <CompanionCube> oops
L211[07:11:45] <Forec​aster> I should make that write out how much time was lost
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L213[07:32:19] <Ko​dos> Decided against X4 after further investigation
L214[07:32:32] <Ko​dos> At the very least I probably won’t drop money on it right now
L215[07:33:39] <Izaya> the earlier games are cheaper
L216[07:34:31] <Ko​dos> Probably. I’ve never played any of the series so I wouldn’t know which one is good.
L217[07:35:00] <Forec​aster> X4 is basically X3 but a bit modernized and some mod features included
L218[07:35:12] <Ko​dos> I’m having a hard time justifying getting anything really. My buddy bought me odyssey so I’m just waiting on that and playing Minecraft and Cold War in the mean time.
L219[07:35:18] <Forec​aster> but slightly scaled back in scope because no expansions (yet)
L220[07:35:34] <Ko​dos> I thought split was out already
L221[07:35:47] * Izaya nods
L222[07:35:53] <Forec​aster> oh, yeah, but X3 has like 3
L223[07:35:57] <Izaya> I look at games then realise that spending money on them probably isn't worth it
L224[07:36:24] <Izaya> given realistically I'll end up playing the half-dozen sandbox games I've been playing for ages
L225[07:36:36] <Ko​dos> That’s pretty much the issue I have
L226[07:37:05] <Ko​dos> I would love to say I’d enjoy satisfactory but given that resource locations are always the same or so I’m told I don’t know that I would
L227[07:37:10] <Forec​aster> time for some more breathing ant-farm nonsense
L228[07:37:40] <Ko​dos> I haven’t been on YouTube in some time. Are you doing a video series with oni or just playing
L229[07:37:51] <Forec​aster> I'm just playing
L230[07:38:08] <Forec​aster> although with how well this went I wish I'd recorded it
L231[07:38:27] <Forec​aster> but previous attempts have always collapsed before I got anywhere
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L234[08:22:12] <Ez​lar> Aside from the geo2holo, what else can hologram projectors be used for?
L235[08:22:33] <Forec​aster> projecting [insert thing here]
L236[08:23:34] <Ez​lar> What input does it take?
L237[08:23:55] <Ez​lar> I haven't found much in the way of documentation for it
L238[08:24:11] <Forec​aster> why not check the geo2holo program
L239[08:24:23] <Forec​aster> there is also a program that projects a clock
L240[08:25:17] <Ez​lar> I mentioned geo2holo in my op, but does it have other functionalities?
L241[08:25:42] <Forec​aster> I know you mentioned geo2holo, I can read
L242[08:26:05] <Forec​aster> you wanted to know how to use the hologram projector, so check the program and see how it's using it
L243[08:26:11] <Michiyo> I think the implication there was to... look at the program, see how it works and then make your own
L244[08:26:27] <Forec​aster> the clock program is much simpler than geo2holo so maybe start with that
L245[08:27:33] <Ez​lar> I didn't realize you meant the source code
L246[08:30:01] <Ez​lar> I can't seem to find the clock program you're referencing, where would that be?
L247[08:38:03] <Forec​aster> @Ezlar there is no clock here but there's some other holo stuff https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Sangar-Programs
L248[08:38:27] <Ez​lar> Thanks
L249[08:42:23] <Ez​lar> I think I found the clock program you mentioned in MineOs
L250[08:43:51] <Forec​aster> I don't use MineOS
L251[08:46:52] <Ez​lar> https://github.com/IgorTimofeev/MineOS/blob/master/Applications/HoloClock.app/Main.lua
L252[08:47:08] <Ez​lar> Neither do I particularly.
L253[08:53:24] <Forec​aster> Time to stream some Oxygen Not Included! ( @Kodos )
L254[09:26:44] <Michiyo> `java.lang.NullPointerException: Ticking player`
L255[09:26:56] <Michiyo> I really miss being able to debug in my IDE.
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L260[10:32:42] <ThePi​Guy24> %tonk
L261[10:32:42] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! ThePi​Guy24! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 42 minutes and 34 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L262[10:32:43] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new record is 3 hours, 42 minutes and 34 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.00371 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #5. Need 0.31431864 more points to pass Squi​dDev!
L263[10:33:15] <Izaya> https://ap.tiuxo.com/media/69939acb8b4f9c0f64008375c9a965d4846e78f59018b8845d362a64a1f74b80.mp4
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L266[10:44:26] <Forec​aster> gotta love people
L267[10:44:30] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/ya6wtlac
L268[10:51:28] <Forec​aster> the "incident" in question https://tinyurl.com/y94sm7rn
L269[10:51:44] <Forec​aster> why would you defend that?
L270[10:53:41] <ThePi​Guy24> my guess is that Annoyed Bark person is just, well, annoyed that they couldnt figure out how to work the mod :p
L271[10:56:07] <Elfi> Headass people coming out of the woodwork
L272[11:36:26] <Kristo​pher38> I had an idea to use geo2holo to display my robot's mining path
L273[11:36:48] <Kristo​pher38> I actually got everything ready to implement this on the robot side but never did
L274[11:59:30] <dequbed> Izaya: Since you like cursed funny things: There's a small piece of Belgium that's only reachable via a french bridge and path due to river changes. The french got the belgians to maintain said path. The belgians being bilingual french native speakers and it being the french part of belgium of course put all signs up in monolingual flemish.
L275[12:01:59] <dequbed> @Kodos re X-games: All but X:R are 'good' but the focus did shift over time, most notably from X3:R to X3:TC with the abandoning of a story-driven game. X4 is a complete overhaul, improves just about everything and massively expands mechanics, calling it just a "bit modernized w/ some mod features included X3" does massive disservice to the game.
L276[12:03:12] <dequbed> If you want to drop money on /one/ game and one game only and it ain't X4 then go for X3:TC w/o Albion Prelude. It's dirt cheap nowadays, has a large modding scene and packs the most mechanics after X4
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L287[13:30:51] <Lat​ibro> How do I make a cable connect to my block?
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L290[13:31:38] <Lat​ibro> At the moment I connect my block with the Adaptor, but I would like it to connect directly
L291[13:33:00] <Forec​aster> I'd guess there's an interface or something you need to implement
L292[13:34:21] <Lat​ibro> I think I looked into almost all interfaces and tried some of them out, but I cant find the right one
L293[13:34:29] <Forec​aster> I'd look at Computronics, it has many blocks that connect directly to OC cables
L294[13:34:48] <Lat​ibro> Also tried to figure it out from looking into how other mods did it, but still no luck
L295[13:36:01] <Lat​ibro> I'm not sure if I already looked into that mods code. Will give it another look 🙂
L296[13:41:38] <Amanda> Openprinters might be better, it doesn't abstract stuff much. Iirc it comes down to implementing another interface, or calling a different register method
L297[13:42:37] <Lat​ibro> That one I already tried to look into without any luck (yet)
L298[13:43:11] <Amanda> It's also worth noting if there's going to be a lot of your block In one place, you shouldn't use the direct connection. It'd make running wire a pain
L299[13:43:42] <Amanda> Vexatos: would say only do it if it makes sense you'd plug it right into a computer
L300[13:46:30] <Lat​ibro> Noted, I'm expecting the block to be uses as kindof a scanner, so I guess you will only connect one to the computer.
L301[13:47:16] <Lat​ibro> Making it a block (and not a card) to be able to do connections to both CC and OC
L302[13:54:37] <Amanda> %choose cubes or CGI
L303[13:54:37] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I sense some "cubes" in your future!
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L306[14:22:48] <Amanda> ... WEll then, that's an oversight. Free infinite Fluix Crystals!
L307[14:23:29] <dequbed> Aren't fluix crystals always infinite?
L308[14:23:34] <Amanda> well "free" -- it costs sand
L309[14:23:45] <Amanda> I don't think so?
L310[14:24:05] <ThePi​Guy24> on a pack i found a way to turn cobblestone into explosives :p
L311[14:24:08] <Amanda> but TE is adding a recipie to pulverise the pure ones... using that dust, you can combien it with sand, and make two seeds of pure ones.
L312[14:24:17] <ThePi​Guy24> and i could get infinite cobblestone
L313[14:26:14] <dequbed> Amanda: I'm reasonably sure that the dust to new seeds thing is by design
L314[14:26:27] <Amanda> dequbed: sure, but pure crystals to dust?
L315[14:26:31] <dequbed> yep
L316[14:28:34] <dequbed> AE generally abstains from limiting resources / encouraging mining and instead uses infrastructure to replicate all the things. Metal press blankets for example too
L317[14:31:53] <Amanda> This seeme less like "AE" doing it, since you can't use the manual grinder to get the dust from the pure crystals
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L319[14:32:19] <Amanda> nor the mek crusher, only the TE pulverizer
L320[14:34:09] <dequbed> Huh. Well I haven't played with AE for a long while maybe I'm just misremembering
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L329[15:28:05] <Lat​ibro> Found why it was not connecting... et seems I have to implement the Environment on the TileEntity for it to work
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L335[17:06:38] <Va​ur> %tonk
L336[17:06:41] <MichiBot> Yikes! Va​ur! You beat ThePi​Guy24's previous record of 3 hours, 42 minutes and 34 seconds (By 2 hours, 51 minutes and 23 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L337[17:06:42] <MichiBot> Vaur's new record is 6 hours, 33 minutes and 58 seconds! Vaur also gained 0.01144 (0.00286 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #14. Need 0.02633 more points to pass The_St​argazer!
L338[17:25:36] <Ocawesome101> dangit i was gonna do that
L339[17:37:32] <Michiyo> I was pinged?
L340[17:37:34] <Michiyo> Oh
L341[17:38:09] <Amanda> appologies Michiyo <3
L342[17:38:40] <Vexatos> Michiyo:
L343[17:38:41] <Vexatos> hi
L344[17:39:44] <Michiyo> @Latibro cable connectivity is fairly easy, OpenPrinter manages it by implementing Environment and a couple of boilerplate methods https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenPrinter/blob/1.12.1/src/main/java/pcl/openprinter/tileentity/PrinterTE.java When implementing Environment you are responsible for managing your node.
L345[17:40:11] <Michiyo> OpenLights implements it with SimpleComponent https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenLights/blob/1.12.2/src/main/java/pcl/openlights/tileentity/OpenLightTE.java
L346[17:40:46] <Michiyo> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenLights/blob/1.12.2/src/main/java/pcl/openlights/tileentity/OpenLightTE.java#L36 then you just setup callbacks https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenLights/blob/1.12.2/src/main/java/pcl/openlights/tileentity/OpenLightTE.java#L70-L74
L347[17:40:58] <Lat​ibro> Thanks found that 🙂 I did not have the Environment on the TE
L348[17:41:30] <Michiyo> Environment lets you do A LOT more, SimpleComponent is as it says, simple
L349[17:41:45] <Lat​ibro> I had a seperate provider that gave a ManagedEnvironment, as I liked that seperation
L350[17:43:06] <Lat​ibro> But now I have it all squeezed into the TE (both CC and OC impl) - Now it works but it is at mess to look at 😄
L351[17:43:33] <Michiyo> wanna talk about a mess for OC/CC compat? :P
L352[17:44:13] <Michiyo> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenFM/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/OpenFM/TileEntity/TileEntityRadio.java#L474-L610 That method is called by both OC and CC so I didn't have to duplicate everything
L353[17:44:16] <Michiyo> it makes me cry
L354[17:44:37] <Michiyo> OC access it via https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenFM/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/OpenFM/TileEntity/TileEntityRadio.java#L613-L625
L355[17:44:47] <Michiyo> and CC via https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenFM/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/OpenFM/TileEntity/TileEntityRadio.java#L645-L654
L356[17:46:29] <Lat​ibro> I have done some abstractions where things are common for both, and did a proxy that will proxy any POJO as a object in both CC and OC. Exposing the java methods in Lua (handling the convertion of parameters and return)
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L358[17:48:35] <Lat​ibro> I have something simular to the OpenFM TE... lucky that none of the OC and CC methods have same signature, that would have made this impossible
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L360[17:51:23] <Michiyo> Funny, luckily for me they were identical for CC/OC which made this possible lol
L361[17:52:10] <ben_mkiv|afk> just curious, what are you working on?
L362[17:52:15] <ben_mkiv|afk> @latibro
L363[17:59:31] <Lat​ibro> Trying to do an simple way to automate "everything" in MC, and making it accessable for both OC and CC.
L364[18:00:05] <Lat​ibro> And trying to do it in a way where it should be simple Java to create the API's
L365[18:22:55] <i develo​p things> well
L366[18:23:03] <i develo​p things> i like having an irc client open on my laptop constantly
L367[18:23:17] <i develo​p things> if for no reason other than that i means i can switch between discord and irc far more seamlessly
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L369[18:37:54] <Elfi> I mean, I use a Quassel core myself. Seamlessly move your session between different devices \o/
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L371[18:55:52] <redi​vider> https://puu.sh/H1FGv/9a695fdcdc.mp4
L372[18:55:52] <redi​vider> "On the why computers suck and why I do my bitcoins by hand, on paper"
L373[18:55:52] <redi​vider> (meme by me when i had "the funny" doing stuff with mathematica, figured you guys would like it too LUL)
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L376[19:03:21] <i develo​p things> tfw cpu only hits 65C while pegging all cores
L377[19:03:39] <i develo​p things> and system is still usable
L378[19:04:01] <Fe​ris> how i can copy files from one tablet to another?
L379[19:04:32] <i develo​p things> pastebin, or you might be able to put the tablet in a floppy drive
L380[19:04:37] <i develo​p things> you can also put floppy disks in the tablets
L381[19:04:49] <i develo​p things> so put floppy in one > copy file > take out, put floppy in the other one > copy file
L382[19:05:06] <Fe​ris> how i can put the floppy?
L383[19:05:09] <Fe​ris> into tablet
L384[19:08:13] <i develo​p things> shift right click
L385[19:08:33] <Fe​ris> im can only put card
L386[19:09:00] <i develo​p things> wut
L387[19:09:04] <i develo​p things> screenshot please
L388[19:09:29] <Fe​ris> https://tinyurl.com/yd7mg8sq
L389[19:09:49] <i develo​p things> you didn't put a floppy drive in the tablet did you
L390[19:09:53] <Fe​ris> im have everything in my base controlled with tablet and i want to duplicate commands for my friend tablet
L391[19:10:05] <Fe​ris> no
L392[19:10:13] <i develo​p things> weeeeeeeellllllll
L393[19:10:13] <Fe​ris> im installed os with computer
L394[19:10:16] <i develo​p things> out of luck
L395[19:10:25] <i develo​p things> pastebin will work if you have an internet card
L396[19:10:31] <i develo​p things> otherwise disassemble and pull the files off the disk
L397[19:10:32] <Fe​ris> yeah im have
L398[19:10:37] <Fe​ris> internet card
L399[19:10:40] <i develo​p things> ok
L400[19:10:47] <i develo​p things> then `pastebin put <file>` iirc
L401[19:11:10] <Fe​ris> and im have to do it with every file?
L402[19:11:30] <Fe​ris> and one more, how to later paste this from pastebin to other tablet
L403[19:12:10] <i develo​p things> `pastebin get <code>` with the code that the other pastebin command output
L404[19:12:13] <i develo​p things> yeah, every file
L405[19:12:29] <Fe​ris> okay then just pastebin put and get?
L406[19:12:43] <i develo​p things> ye
L407[19:12:44] <i develo​p things> s
L408[19:12:46] <i develo​p things> yes*
L409[19:12:58] <Fe​ris> okay thank you very much
L410[19:14:17] <i develo​p things> np
L411[19:14:50] <Michiy​o 1234> This is how I just did my daily standup @ work... https://tinyurl.com/y878twr9
L412[19:25:51] <Fe​ris> my base builded 4fun xD, im noob in lua https://tinyurl.com/y7snq9j8
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L415[19:36:04] <Kristo​pher38> What mod do these elevators come from?
L416[19:37:01] <ThePi​Guy24> Thuts Elevators
L417[19:39:26] <Vexatos> one of the first mods to have OC support
L418[19:40:22] <Mic​hiyo> Damn it... this is making me want to roll up another MC Server
L419[19:40:23] <Mic​hiyo> <_<
L420[19:40:44] <ThePi​Guy24> dont roll servers it will break them
L421[19:40:58] <Mic​hiyo> >_>
L422[19:41:33] <Mic​hiyo> Fine fine... This is making me want to SPIN up another MC Server.
L423[19:41:36] <Mic​hiyo> better ?:p
L424[19:41:51] <ThePi​Guy24> spinning them probably isnt too good either
L425[19:41:53] <Mic​hiyo> It's wireless and all SSD no moving parts.
L426[19:42:09] <Mic​hiyo> So spinning it will be fine
L427[19:42:29] <Mic​hiyo> The spinning might even help the passively cooled CPUs.
L428[19:43:22] <Vexatos> SSDs have moving electrons
L429[19:43:38] <Corded> * <Mic​hiyo> bans Vexatose
L430[19:43:43] <Mic​hiyo> god damn it
L431[19:43:45] <Mic​hiyo> why e
L432[19:43:46] <Mic​hiyo> why?
L433[19:43:49] <Mic​hiyo> Vexatos*
L434[19:50:08] <Vexatos> now here's a question: SSDs work by quantum tunneling - is quantum tunneling movement?
L435[19:51:06] <ThePi​Guy24> Yes and/or No
L436[19:52:15] <Fe​ris> someone have some good programs for oc glasses xd?
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L438[20:08:45] <Vampyre> with quantum tunneling, there is no movement needed, the energy already had a chance of being there without moveing, so, I'd say no
L439[20:08:58] <Vampyre> but it's kinda philosophical
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L442[20:39:25] <Forec​aster> Just played among us for the first time
L443[20:39:32] <Forec​aster> It's surprisingly stressful
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L445[20:52:31] * CompanionCube observes a reddit post laughing at an american for thinking oswald mosley represented american values
L446[20:54:09] <Amanda> who?
L447[20:55:30] <Amanda> ( Who is this oswald persion, I mean, IDC about random reddit user
L448[20:55:59] <CompanionCube> Amanda: imagine me saying i respected the leader of the American Nazi Party for representing their values.
L449[20:56:23] <Amanda> I see
L450[20:57:29] <Vexatos> I only know an Ostwald
L451[21:01:59] <Forec​aster> Oswald is The Penguins real name
L452[21:34:41] <Amanda> %choose ONI or more cubes
L453[21:34:41] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I had a gold nugget for every time someone asked me about "more cubes"
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L455[23:10:28] <bad at​ vijya> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786965980508717117/793254321604657182/20201228_180849.jpg
L456[23:10:32] <bad at​ vijya> I HAVE WON COMPUTERS
L457[23:13:09] <Izaya> is that USB-A to USB-A?
L458[23:13:22] <bad at​ vijya> :)
L459[23:16:43] <Izaya> that's illegal
L460[23:16:54] <Amanda> I remember something or other came with one of those in the early '00s -- it was some software to transfer files from one tower to another, IIRC?
L461[23:17:32] <Amanda> so not only USB-A to USB-A, usb1-a to usb1-a
L462[23:18:53] <bad at​ vijya> usb2
L463[23:18:54] <bad at​ vijya> actually
L464[23:19:05] <bad at​ vijya> 480mbps
L465[23:19:12] <bad at​ vijya> just dunno how to make it work in linux
L466[23:21:12] <Izaya> tfw you design your rocket too well and you can't recover your booster stage because it ends up in orbit
L467[23:24:10] <dequbed> Izaya: Then add a probe core to it and land it at the KSP :P
L468[23:24:18] <dequbed> s/KSP/KSC
L469[23:24:18] <MichiBot> <dequbed> Izaya: Then add a probe core to it and land it at the KSC :P
L470[23:24:31] <Izaya> you jest but I just swapped out some of the fuel for a service bay
L471[23:24:46] <Izaya> so I can stick a probe core in it
L472[23:24:59] <dequbed> I don't. I do that.
L473[23:26:37] <Izaya> should really stick a KOS module on this so I don't actually have to alunch it
L474[23:37:38] <20​kdc> @bad at vijya the real question is: does it show as anything in lsusb, and if so, what?
L475[23:37:48] <bad at​ vijya> it shows something in lsusb
L476[23:37:53] <20​kdc> (particularly try `lsusb -v`)
L477[23:37:54] <bad at​ vijya> it's emulating a CD-ROM
L478[23:39:57] <bad at​ vijya> all i see is the SCSI descriptor
L479[23:41:41] <bad at​ vijya> i can't figure out how it works....
L480[23:41:52] <CompanionCube> O.o
L481[23:42:05] <20​kdc> magic evil scsi packets?
L482[23:42:11] <bad at​ vijya> unless i need the other end connecting to something
L483[23:42:14] <bad at​ vijya> hm
L484[23:42:19] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L485[23:42:20] <MichiBot> Holy bottle cap Batman! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 6 hours, 33 minutes and 58 seconds (By 1 minute and 41 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
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L487[23:42:27] <Vampyre> got a device and vendor id?
L488[23:42:45] <Vampyre> google will sure to find something on that
L489[23:42:56] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/y9lp85wk
L490[23:43:01] <bad at​ vijya> only thing that comes up is a capture card
L491[23:43:22] <Amanda> That's not the device:vendor id
L492[23:43:28] <bad at​ vijya> yes
L493[23:43:31] <bad at​ vijya> i know
L494[23:43:41] <bad at​ vijya> 0ea0:2209
L495[23:43:41] <Amanda> It's the 4-hex colon 4-hex in lsusb
L496[23:44:03] <bad at​ vijya> yes
L497[23:44:04] <bad at​ vijya> i know
L498[23:44:19] <bad at​ vijya> this is how i find how to use random USB devices in linux
L499[23:44:58] <Vampyre> that... is indeed a capture card...
L500[23:45:08] <bad at​ vijya> yes
L501[23:45:11] <Vampyre> is this maybe a cable to connect an UHD camera?
L502[23:45:25] <bad at​ vijya> it's meant to transfer files between computers
L503[23:45:31] <Vampyre> weird
L504[23:45:34] <Amanda> Did.. did hey not bother to get a valid usb vendor id? O.o
L505[23:45:40] <bad at​ vijya> probably not
L506[23:45:51] <bad at​ vijya> this was some cable from best buy
L507[23:45:55] <Amanda> Or maybe they were bought and the device is was reused
L508[23:45:55] <bad at​ vijya> (that cost $25, mind you!)
L509[23:46:14] <bad at​ vijya> that i really wanted to see if it worked
L510[23:47:10] <20​kdc> ...dear goodness, have network slots become so rare that someone decided this was worth something?
L511[23:47:35] <bad at​ vijya> oh sorry
L512[23:47:38] <bad at​ vijya> it was $ 3 0
L513[23:47:47] <bad at​ vijya> but hey
L514[23:48:05] <Amanda> @20kdc I remember seeing tv ads for something like this in the early '00s
L515[23:48:17] <bad at​ vijya> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/awozilebil
L516[23:48:26] <bad at​ vijya> it's requirements are literally
L517[23:48:41] <bad at​ vijya> either a pentium II or a G4
L518[23:52:45] <Vampyre> well, it's a HAMA Easy Suit link cable, with indeed no linux support, that's about all I could find ;-)
L519[23:54:09] <Vampyre> the windows driver seems to install some network component and I guess it then switches the cable to that mode
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