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L1[00:03:18] <dequbed> Amanda: Are teletubbies a thing in your corner of the world?
L2[00:03:43] <Amanda> dequbed: yes, but barely during my age bracket
L3[00:04:03] <dequbed> Ah yes I forgot you're prehistoric
L4[00:04:30] <Amanda> I mostly saw them at my babysitter's house when I was in my early terms, which she'd out on for the younger kids
L5[00:04:39] <Amanda> Teens*
L6[00:05:53] <Amanda> dequbed: I'm hardly prehistoric. I turn 30 in March! I'm still young and hip! D:
L7[00:06:10] <dequbed> <3
L8[00:08:15] <Amanda> I grew up with "hip cool kids" shows in PBS. I think it was called Zoom?
L9[00:08:37] <Amanda> And ppg, dexter's labs
L10[00:08:55] <dequbed> I grew up without television much less american shows, so those references are lost on me ^^
L11[00:09:43] <Amanda> https://g.co/kgs/tRrX7F
L12[00:10:12] <Amanda> Or where google probably got the data from; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_(1999_TV_series)
L13[00:10:26] <Izaya> ~w unicode
L14[00:10:26] <dequbed> Amanda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Sendung_mit_der_Maus
L15[00:11:03] <Amanda> Come on and zoom, come on and zoom! Come on and zoom zoom zoom-y zoom!
L16[00:13:05] <Amanda> dequbed: I know of a kids show song from Germany, but that's because of a flash animation that played with misinterpreting the lyrics as english
L17[00:13:18] <Amanda> It's on my happy place playlist
L18[00:14:09] <dequbed> Amanda: Die Sendung mit der Maus is literally the only show I know. We had one television in our house growing up it was like 14", used twice a week and still said "Made in West Germany" on it.
L19[00:14:37] <Amanda> Dear colline, you call collect, bound to dis your float account,!
L20[00:16:32] <Amanda> Kabounterdans
L21[00:17:38] <Amanda> Goddesses, I remember using windows recording tool to try and create ml3s of the flash songs, which would inevitably get messed up with a pidgin or windows message sound
L22[00:17:58] <Amanda> Mp3s*
L23[00:19:03] <Amanda> (or as it was known as then: GAIM)
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L25[00:19:29] <Amanda> My first irc client, until I had some sense trouted into me
L26[00:21:48] <Amanda> (which amusingly enight only happen when I was playing with making an irc not who didn't use CTCP properly, because GAIM displayed any message starting with `/me` "right"
L27[00:22:18] <Amanda> Enough* bot*
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L29[00:25:17] <dequbed> Amanda: Honey hate to break it to you but if you have nostalgia you are old.
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L33[00:26:15] <Amanda> D:
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L35[00:46:29] <dequbed> Anyway, sleep time
L36[00:47:25] * Amanda lays on dequbed's face as revenge for making her feel old
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L39[02:09:36] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/1400df11f344041680e3116e0c794d0b79419119211ad5c19ac6aa9d4dfba1c0.jpg
L40[02:10:44] <ThePi​Guy24> .png.jpg
L41[02:14:31] <Amanda> .tiff
L42[02:17:37] <CompanionCube> .bmp
L43[02:18:13] <ThePi​Guy24> .gif
L44[02:20:10] <Amanda> .webp
L45[02:21:32] <ThePi​Guy24> .tga
L46[02:26:40] * Amanda snugsafairy, contemplates bed time
L47[02:39:18] * Amanda curls up, night nerds
L48[03:21:05] <Amanda> Guess who can't sleep!
L49[03:21:33] <B​ob> ah yes
L50[03:21:44] <B​ob> time to wait out 8:00 before going to bed
L51[03:25:15] <Amanda> %choose radioactivity; regular or interactive
L52[03:25:15] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: interactive radioactivity
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L54[05:20:05] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L55[05:20:05] <MichiBot> Eureka! Forec​aster! You beat Va​ur's previous record of 6 hours, 15 minutes and 50 seconds (By 1 hour, 21 minutes and 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L56[05:20:06] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.7677985. Position #2 Need 0.14184141 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L57[05:21:14] <Amanda> Right, let's try this sleeps thing again -- night nerds
L58[05:21:53] <ThePi​Guy24> or is it :micheal:
L59[06:01:24] <CompanionCube> Izaya: Skye: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mips/20201225190503.12353218812e1655f56f0bf8@gmx.com/T/#m0862c3484e0da7195dc8989421d30f01b3b1c63a
L60[06:07:04] <ThePi​Guy24> all we need now is for someone to make a rudimentary opengl api for it :p
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L64[07:46:57] <ThePi​Guy24> %tonk
L65[07:46:58] <MichiBot> Holy mermaid scale Batman! ThePi​Guy24! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 26 minutes and 52 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L66[07:46:59] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new record is 2 hours, 26 minutes and 52 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.00245 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #6. Need 0.01782056 more points to pass Li​zzy!
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L68[08:51:21] <spo​nge> %tonk
L69[08:51:22] <MichiBot> I'm sorry sponge, you were not able to beat ThePiGuy24's record of 2 hours, 26 minutes and 52 seconds this time. 1 hour, 4 minutes and 24 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 22 minutes and 27 seconds!
L70[08:51:30] <spo​nge> sad
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L78[12:13:16] <ThePi​Guy24> %tonkout
L79[12:13:16] <MichiBot> Yay! ThePi​Guy24! You beat your own previous record of 2 hours, 26 minutes and 52 seconds (By 55 minutes and 2 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L80[12:13:17] <MichiBot> ThePi​Guy24 has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.08047944, Position #6 Need 0.01082056 more points to pass Li​zzy!
L81[12:44:26] <Forec​aster> woo, liquid cooling system
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L83[13:24:03] <Amanda> Hello yes, I'd like my CPU cycles to be at full capacity please. It's not fair that I'm tired and not braining today
L84[13:24:19] <Forec​aster> you need drugs
L85[13:24:36] <Amanda> I wasn't drugged yesterday, but today I was
L86[13:24:53] <Amanda> but I also think I spent the last like 2h before "waking up" half-asleep rolling around in bed
L87[13:25:13] <Forec​aster> I woke up at 6am today, which has been a pattern recently
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L91[14:26:23] <Forec​aster> nice! got a shipment of glass from the pod!
L92[14:26:29] <Forec​aster> now I have two solar panel arrays
L93[14:27:05] <Amanda> %choose court disaster?
L94[14:27:05] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Ah... well, I'd say wait an hour.
L95[14:28:10] <Amanda> %choose play with cubes, then?
L96[14:28:11] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Oh, I've heard about that. You'll want to wait until tomorrow.
L97[14:37:26] <Amanda> %remindme 50m court disasster
L98[14:37:27] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "court disasster" at 12/26/2020 03:27:26 PM
L99[14:39:20] <Forec​aster> I have how many fungal spores? https://tinyurl.com/y95lmg96
L100[14:39:31] <Forec​aster> pretty sure that's not supposed to happen
L101[14:41:21] <Amanda> someone took a bite out of one of them
L102[14:41:31] <Forec​aster> how rude
L103[14:51:24] <Forec​aster> finally got a hospital up and running, maybe now they can start treating everyone with slimelung
L104[15:27:28] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: court disasster
L105[15:46:39] <Elfi> Amanda, why are you courting disaster
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L107[15:52:12] <Forec​aster> that feeling when you're constructing an electrolyzer oxygen generator as quickly as possible because there's very little oxygen left
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L109[16:13:47] <Forec​aster> finally my water system seems to be clean again
L110[16:18:13] <Forec​aster> oh
L111[16:18:33] <Forec​aster> turns out water airlocks don't work very well in subzero temperature when the water turns into ice...
L112[17:05:33] <Fe​ris> hi
L113[17:05:39] <Fe​ris> im have a question
L114[17:05:47] <Fe​ris> how i can open all doors connected to my computer?
L115[17:05:49] <Fe​ris> roll doors
L116[17:06:13] <Izaya> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/wiki/RolldoorController
L117[17:06:30] <Fe​ris> i know how to open one doors but i want to know how to open all doors connected to computer
L118[17:06:42] <Izaya> iterate over each rolldoor component and open them
L119[17:06:59] <Fe​ris> how to iterate? im noob in lua
L120[17:07:17] <Izaya> a for loop is the usual way to do it
L121[17:07:22] <Izaya> something along the lines of uh
L122[17:08:07] <Izaya> for addr in component.list("rolldoor") do component.invoke(whatever) end
L123[17:08:17] <Fe​ris> thanks
L124[17:08:52] <Izaya> see https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html#4
L125[17:09:28] <Fe​ris> okay thanks
L126[17:15:30] <Amanda> Elfi: Was goign to play a thinky-game when my brain is low on CPU cycles: so, courting disaster. Though I feel a bit more thinky now that I spent the meowning halucinating
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L128[17:28:39] <spo​nge> %tonk
L129[17:28:39] <MichiBot> Consarn it! spo​nge! You beat ThePi​Guy24's previous record of <0 (By 5 hours, 15 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L130[17:28:40] <MichiBot> sponge's new record is 5 hours, 15 minutes and 22 seconds! sponge also gained 0.00526 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #33 => #22. (Overtook Rph) Need 0.00092 more points to pass Bohemi​anHacks!
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L132[17:38:21] * Inari feeds Amanda some pineapple pudding
L133[17:38:34] * Amanda eyes Inari wearily
L134[17:39:35] <Inari> :3
L135[17:39:36] <Amanda> Right, time to continue The Doomed Antfarm
L136[17:39:45] <Inari> antfarm?
L137[17:41:18] <Forec​aster> ONI
L138[17:41:22] <Inari> ah
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L141[17:43:37] <Forec​aster> woo, electrolyzer is online! we have oxygen once again!
L142[17:50:16] <Amanda> This looks important:https://nc.ddna.co/s/EZ3detczDKJQz6Z
L143[17:51:43] <Forec​aster> not really
L144[17:51:53] <Forec​aster> there's another one that teleports dupes
L145[17:52:12] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y72no3gd
L146[17:52:19] <Amanda> is it worth tunneling over to it, or should I focucs on getting more water first
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L148[17:52:48] <Forec​aster> that's the receiver, it's useless until you are at whatever planetoid it receives from
L149[17:52:54] <Amanda> ah
L150[17:53:07] <Amanda> water first it is
L151[17:53:12] <Forec​aster> there should be another similar one that's a transmitter, and the ones in my screenshot are transmitter/receiver for dupes
L152[17:53:27] <Forec​aster> I assume both the dupe ones and the resource ones go to the same place
L153[17:53:48] <Forec​aster> but I haven't used either yet so I don't know
L154[17:54:53] <Forec​aster> sigh
L155[17:55:18] <Forec​aster> I need to re-wire things so some things don't run directly off of the output of the solar array
L156[17:55:37] <Forec​aster> kind of not good that my new oxygen source shuts down at night
L157[17:56:33] <Forec​aster> also need to re-distribute the loads on my various networks
L158[18:00:30] <Izaya> https://files.catbox.moe/b9uqac.jpg that's my sort of christmas tree
L159[18:13:18] <Forec​aster> I also also need to get to those other teleporters so I can steal the glass there to make another solar panel
L160[18:16:51] <Amanda> Yay, now my cistern's filling up... slowly. I should probably add another hamster wheel
L161[18:19:03] <Forec​aster> hm, solar panels seem to be one of the few buildings that don't require support, despite looking like they do
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L163[18:34:44] <dequbed> @Forecaster those are self-sufficient solar panels who need no strut.
L164[18:38:06] <Forec​aster> interesting... polluted water in the wild with no germs in it
L165[18:55:07] <Amanda> I need to figure out where to put a waste cistern
L166[18:55:32] <Forec​aster> at the top, in the middle, and it has to be able to overflow
L167[18:55:50] <Amanda> I forgot the algee o2 producers made polluted water, now my base is full of bottles of the stuff
L168[18:58:57] <Forec​aster> ah crud
L169[18:59:07] <Forec​aster> 3 solar panels will overload the basic power cables
L170[19:16:45] <Forec​aster> I can have 5 on a refined cable
L171[19:19:51] <Amanda> what the hell is with shine bugs liking to hang out by cots. I moved all the cots, and it followed
L172[19:20:07] <Forec​aster> I door them in to keep the shine bugs out
L173[19:20:31] <Forec​aster> you wanna set up barracks anyway for the morale bonus
L174[19:20:36] *** Vampout is now known as Vampyre
L175[19:22:50] <Amanda> I should do that, yah. Just requires work
L176[19:23:10] <Forec​aster> yeah but it's worth it
L177[19:23:59] <Amanda> This is currently the entireity of my base: https://nc.ddna.co/s/DNLwDozf9yawMMH
L178[19:24:25] <Forec​aster> my entire base doesn't fit on screen anymore
L179[19:24:50] <Amanda> Also there's entirely too much chlorine along the center staff twords the surface
L180[19:25:01] <Amanda> s/staff/shaft/
L181[19:25:01] <MichiBot> <Amanda> Also there's entirely too much chlorine along the center shaft twords the surface
L182[19:25:26] <Forec​aster> my base is finally mostly oxygen again
L183[19:27:15] <Amanda> So much chlorinehttps://nc.ddna.co/s/DcRtegeZBQfNdAj
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L186[19:53:36] <Forec​aster> geez wires cost a lot of refined metal
L187[20:11:49] <Ko​dos> Anyone here played X4 in depth?
L188[20:12:04] <Forec​aster> not yet, I keep meaning to...
L189[20:12:20] <Forec​aster> I want to stream it, but I haven't taken the time to get started with that
L190[20:13:09] <Ko​dos> I kind of want to get it if I can talk my mum out of the last bit of credit I need for it, but I need to know if what I want to do is possible (It probably is, it being an X game and all)
L191[20:13:14] <Ko​dos> I've never played an X game before though
L192[20:13:19] <Ko​dos> I've only heard the stories
L193[20:13:30] <Forec​aster> if what is possible?
L194[20:13:46] <Izaya> dequbed:
L195[20:14:08] <dequbed> @Kodos yes hi I play too much spiss game
L196[20:14:13] <Forec​aster> I played X3 many years ago (and we wont talk about Rebirth)
L197[20:14:40] <Vampyre> They found an 2000 year old street food shop, almost completely intact: https://www.reuters.com/article/italy-pompeii/archaeologists-uncover-ancient-street-food-shop-in-pompeii-idUSKBN2900D3
L198[20:14:46] <Vampyre> 1st mcdonalds ;-)
L199[20:14:58] <Vampyre> also, Hi
L200[20:15:47] <dequbed> @Kodos So X4 is, different to X:R an actual X game and stuff. Egosoft is capable of learning etc. It ain't elite though and it has some of the problems of X:R, mainly in terms of simply size.
L201[20:23:44] <Forec​aster> ...
L202[20:24:30] <Forec​aster> apparently connecting two 1kW transformers in parallel just splits 1kW between them instead of allowing drawing 2kW
L203[20:26:37] <Forec​aster> so I'm loosing 520W out of the 1540W my 4 solar panels produce just because there's no 2kW transformer
L204[20:30:02] <Ko​dos> dequbed: I'm wanting to basically fuck off and work for the ministry of finance, mining and trading and generally helping them take over the universe. Is this a thing?
L205[20:30:34] <Forec​aster> building your own financial empire is kind of the X thing
L206[20:30:48] <Ko​dos> Right but can I do so on behalf of the MoF?
L207[20:31:02] <Ko​dos> Or do I have to make my own faction
L208[20:32:44] <dequbed> I never tried working as a wageslave in that fashion but you can certainly work for the MoF. Not certain they can take over the galaxy however
L209[20:34:06] <Ko​dos> Is there a proper
L210[20:34:16] <Ko​dos> story, or is it just mission chains and such
L211[20:34:40] <Ko​dos> Also does MoF have a mega station thinger already or do I get to build one and import the stuff for it
L212[20:36:03] <dequbed> X4 has mission in the style of X3 and no set story like X2. But they are a bit more diverse and less on rails than in X3
L213[20:36:40] <dequbed> And I have no idea about the MoF having a megastation
L214[20:39:11] <Ko​dos> I've never played an X game before]
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L216[20:39:21] <dequbed> Ah .. well
L217[20:39:32] <Ko​dos> But I like the idea of upgrading parts, being able to fly anything I find, etc
L218[20:39:48] <Ko​dos> Is there any kind of salvaging/derelict mechanic?
L219[20:40:53] <dequbed> Yes, sorta.
L220[20:41:32] <dequbed> There are wrecks you can explore but all I know about that is second hand info
L221[20:45:26] <dequbed> Anyway if you have never played a X-game and haven't bought into any hype you will not be dissapointed by X4. The scale is smaller than Elite but that is mostly down to X going for quality over quantity.
L222[20:45:47] <Ko​dos> Alright then I'll probably get some more credit and pick up the collector's editions ince that has all the DLC
L223[20:50:56] <Fe​ris> someone can help me why this doesnt work xD? https://tinyurl.com/y7qtflmx
L224[20:51:18] <Forec​aster> "doesn't work" how?
L225[20:51:38] <Fe​ris> oh nothing my mistake
L226[20:51:44] <Fe​ris> 1 letter was uppercase
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L228[21:38:34] <Amanda> %choose waves or radiation
L229[21:38:34] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: The sands of time whisper to me... they're saying "waves".
L230[21:39:14] <Amanda> %choose cubes or corrosive gas included
L231[21:39:14] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I saw that "corrosive gas included" is the best choice in a vision
L232[21:39:27] <Amanda> well, back to courting disaster I guess
L233[21:39:29] <dequbed> Amanda: But that cubic radiation!
L234[21:39:48] <Amanda> dequbed: meow?
L235[21:39:54] <dequbed> meow!
L236[21:50:42] <i develo​p things> i rewrote paragon's vt100 input again
L237[21:50:47] <i develo​p things> but the other half of it
L238[21:50:59] <i develo​p things> so now it should(tm) be as close to vt100-compatible as i can get
L239[21:55:45] <Izaya> today's pmOS/pinephone complaint
L240[21:56:00] <Izaya> keyboard has a useless emoji layer but no symbols layer
L241[21:56:13] <Izaya> I don't even have a font with emoji installed
L242[21:56:48] <i develo​p things> phosh?
L243[21:56:59] <Izaya> yeah whatever the stock keyboard with that is
L244[21:57:03] <i develo​p things> yeah
L245[21:57:05] <i develo​p things> i agree
L246[21:57:13] <i develo​p things> the emoji selector thingy is terrible
L247[21:57:20] <Izaya> absolutely useless
L248[21:57:54] <i develo​p things> not quite, but def borderline xP
L249[21:58:02] <Izaya> > what if we included a keyboard layer with characters that cannot convey information but omitted symbols that are actually useful? hahaha just kidding
L250[21:58:02] <i develo​p things> often doesn't have the emoji i want
L251[21:58:27] <i develo​p things> this is why i'm hyped for manjaro+lomiri or even arch+lomiri to be stable and usable with US carriers
L252[21:58:36] <i develo​p things> the entire interface is better tbh
L253[21:58:43] <i develo​p things> maybe even ubuntu touch once they get kernel 5.10
L254[21:59:17] <Izaya> ubuntu touch has terrible software support
L255[21:59:49] <Izaya> they focused so hard on unusable document-as-application stuff that all there's next to no support for actual software
L256[22:01:11] <i develo​p things> yeah, app support is meh
L257[22:01:14] <i develo​p things> is it any better on phosh though?
L258[22:01:29] <Izaya> the software UI can't deal with apk
L259[22:01:33] <Izaya> but dino doesn't crash the whole thing any more
L260[22:01:40] <Izaya> and I built otpclient quite happily
L261[22:02:14] <i develo​p things> heh
L262[22:02:14] <i develo​p things> also
L263[22:02:16] <i develo​p things> why not use arch
L264[22:02:30] <Izaya> I'm not against slapping alarm on it
L265[22:02:46] <Izaya> but I needed it to just work when I installed and pmOS is sorta designed for this use-case
L266[22:03:43] <i develo​p things> fair
L267[22:03:51] <i develo​p things> from what i hear the arch images are very stable
L268[22:04:00] <Izaya> I don't doubt it's quite nice
L269[22:04:06] <Izaya> but I was without a phone at the time
L270[22:04:11] <i develo​p things> entirely fair
L271[22:04:18] <Izaya> didn't want to spend the time stumbling through setting up arch on a new platform
L272[22:04:41] <Izaya> which is a good thing because I got a call about work that evening
L273[22:04:57] <i develo​p things> the pinephone arch images are pre-set-up and ready to go out-of-the-box iirc
L274[22:05:01] <i develo​p things> that is good though xP
L275[22:05:19] <Izaya> yeah but if it's arch I might as well start from the installer image though
L276[22:05:24] <Izaya> y'know?
L277[22:05:35] <i develo​p things> fair
L278[22:05:54] <Izaya> good to know though, much saner than manjaro with all their downstream-induced breakage
L279[22:07:30] <Izaya> man, software really falls over when you've got something obliterating your disk cache constantly, doesn't it?
L280[22:08:20] <Izaya> I wonder if there's an I/O scheduler that will disable caching for software that does a lot of reading or writing
L281[22:08:42] <Izaya> like, linear r/w rather than random
L282[22:08:57] <Izaya> so if you have, for example, a FitGirl installer writing 100GB to disk, it'd just skip caching it
L283[22:09:08] <i develo​p things> a what now
L284[22:09:26] <Izaya> FitGirl is a popular repacker of pirated games
L285[22:09:38] <i develo​p things> ah
L286[22:09:45] <Izaya> the installers for them tend to tie up a machine for several hours at a time, though
L287[22:09:58] <Izaya> 100% CPU and very heavy on I/O
L288[22:10:15] <Izaya> also using lots of memory
L289[22:10:45] <Izaya> the trick is you run them with nice -n 19 and you can do some reading or something
L290[22:11:22] <i develo​p things> how much memory are we talking with "lots of memory"?
L291[22:13:22] <Izaya> in low memory mode, 8GB
L292[22:14:06] <Izaya> the repacks are often 1/4 of the size of the unpacked game but I assume that's done with very, very aggressive compression
L293[22:14:19] <Izaya> hence massive lookup windows that are best kept in memory
L294[22:17:03] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/hRnpjUm.png
L295[22:21:16] <t20kdc> > tfw when the pirates have faster download times and require less bandwidth than the paying customers due to superior technology
L296[22:26:13] <Izaya> t20kdc: did I tell you I slapped ARK: Survival Evolved onto my btrfs drive and it now takes up 36GB instead of 275?
L297[22:26:44] <Izaya> and it loads faster, because that's a drive with a non-infinite read speed
L298[22:28:19] <Izaya> if only any computer in existence could run it acceptably
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L301[23:14:46] <Forec​aster> `Welcome to our ethical hacker\'s organisation: we will teach you how to use actual hacker tools (terminal, proxy, reverse shells...) to scan the network, crack passwords, bypass server security and solve the mystery of the Bikini-72 space station.`
L302[23:15:00] <Forec​aster> the what-space station? oO
L303[23:15:35] <Vampyre> the NSA space station, you know... any hacker knows that!
L304[23:15:56] <Forec​aster> this is the synopsis of the game "Yolo Space Hacker" on Steam
L305[23:16:09] <Vampyre> sounds legit
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L307[23:38:38] <ThePi​Guy24> %tonk
L308[23:38:39] <MichiBot> Wow! ThePi​Guy24! You beat spo​nge's previous record of 5 hours, 15 minutes and 22 seconds (By 54 minutes and 37 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L309[23:38:40] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new record is 6 hours and 10 minutes! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.00546 (0.00091 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #6. Need 0.00536056 more points to pass Li​zzy!
L310[23:39:24] <Forec​aster> Dammit, I was just checking the previous one
L311[23:39:40] <ThePi​Guy24> mwahahaha
L312[23:52:17] ⇦ Quits: t20kdc (~20kdc@cpc139384-aztw33-2-0-cust220.18-1.cable.virginm.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
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