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L2[00:11:31] <Izaya> Speaking of Pine
devices, do you think you could force Gtk to put the menu bar/CSDs
on the bottom of the screen rather than the top?
L3[00:12:12] <CompanionCube> huh?
L4[00:12:28] <CompanionCube> probably not,
theming is CSS-Based
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L6[00:12:47] <Izaya> not with a theme, with
a patch
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L8[00:13:10] <CompanionCube> hmm
L9[00:13:29] <Izaya> The biggest UI issue
with the pinephone is the fact that the back button is always in
the top left
L10[00:13:51] <Izaya> ie the opposite
corner to your thumb on your massive fucking phone
L11[00:14:17] <CompanionCube> more ikely
then
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L13[00:21:41] <Izaya> Because ah yes,
5.5" diagonally makes literally any sense for a phone, too big
to use with one hand
L14[00:34:36] 
<Ocawesome101> less so if you're a lefty
:^)
<Ocawesome101> less so if you're a lefty
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L16[01:01:19] <Hacka> am
i allowed to talk about tis-100 here
<Hacka> am
i allowed to talk about tis-100 hereL17[01:01:46] <ThePiGuy24> yes
<ThePiGuy24> yesL19[01:02:25] <Hacka> how
do i get it to work when it does
<Hacka> how
do i get it to work when it doesL20[01:06:37] <Ocawesome101> today on Random Quora
Questions: "I need to create an operating system like Windows
in a week, and I have no computer knowledge. How do I do
this?"
<Ocawesome101> today on Random Quora
Questions: "I need to create an operating system like Windows
in a week, and I have no computer knowledge. How do I do
this?"L21[01:06:55] <ThePiGuy24> :tonnin:
<ThePiGuy24> :tonnin:L22[01:07:04] <Hacka>
tell them to get 1 trillion dollars and get an army of
programmers
<Hacka>
tell them to get 1 trillion dollars and get an army of
programmersL23[01:07:15] <Hacka>
that's the only way that's happening
<Hacka>
that's the only way that's happeningL24[01:07:31] <Ocawesome101> or a linux-based
thing
<Ocawesome101> or a linux-based
thingL25[01:07:50] <Hacka> or,
alternatively, you could go into gruesome detail about the inner
working of an OS and tell them that it's impossible to achieve in a
week
<Hacka> or,
alternatively, you could go into gruesome detail about the inner
working of an OS and tell them that it's impossible to achieve in a
weekL26[01:08:06] <Hacka>
just like explaining drivers to them might get them to realise how
stupid of a question that is
<Hacka>
just like explaining drivers to them might get them to realise how
stupid of a question that isL27[01:08:36] <Kristopher38> oh, tis-100 question
<Kristopher38> oh, tis-100 questionL28[01:08:40] <Kristopher38> let me read it
<Kristopher38> let me read itL29[01:10:51] <Hacka>
@Ocawesome101 if you do want to legit point them a good way with
building an os, point them in the direction of lfs and tell them to
google any terms they don't know
<Hacka>
@Ocawesome101 if you do want to legit point them a good way with
building an os, point them in the direction of lfs and tell them to
google any terms they don't knowL30[01:10:57] <Hacka>
lol
<Hacka>
lolL31[01:11:05] <Ocawesome101> someone basically did that
lol
<Ocawesome101> someone basically did that
lolL32[01:11:09] <Hacka>
lol
<Hacka>
lolL33[01:11:32] <Kristopher38> I remember that puzzle, I
think I tried something similar to your solution
<Kristopher38> I remember that puzzle, I
think I tried something similar to your solutionL34[01:11:34] <Ocawesome101> the thing is, quora's
partner program pays people for answers so they ask stupid
questions like that one to generate high quality answers for
money
<Ocawesome101> the thing is, quora's
partner program pays people for answers so they ask stupid
questions like that one to generate high quality answers for
moneyL35[01:12:15] <Kristopher38> I can easily imagine
10-year old me googling that question
<Kristopher38> I can easily imagine
10-year old me googling that questionL36[01:12:26] <Hacka> how
old are oyu atm
<Hacka> how
old are oyu atmL37[01:12:37] <Hacka> ur
mii has a goatee so
<Hacka> ur
mii has a goatee soL38[01:13:00] <Kristopher38> it's like they're creating
valuable content for people googling that kind of stuff
<Kristopher38> it's like they're creating
valuable content for people googling that kind of stuffL39[01:13:05] <Kristopher38> i'm 21
<Kristopher38> i'm 21L41[01:13:10] <Hacka> 16
heye
<Hacka> 16
heyeL42[01:13:12] <Hacka> 16
here [Edited]
<Hacka> 16
here [Edited]L43[01:13:16] <Hacka>
what's that 11 years ago?
<Hacka>
what's that 11 years ago?L44[01:13:19] <Hacka>
2009?
<Hacka>
2009?L45[01:13:27] <Kristopher38> jesus christ that was 11
years ago
<Kristopher38> jesus christ that was 11
years agoL46[01:13:33] <Hacka>
read somewhere that linux was gaining popularity around that
time
<Hacka>
read somewhere that linux was gaining popularity around that
timeL47[01:14:11] <Hacka>
~~well, acktually gnu/linux, or as i have taken to calling it, gnu
+ linux~~
<Hacka>
~~well, acktually gnu/linux, or as i have taken to calling it, gnu
+ linux~~L48[01:14:23] <ThePiGuy24> ~~bts i use arch~~
<ThePiGuy24> ~~bts i use arch~~L49[01:14:25] <Kristopher38> tfw times when there was 0
in the decimal place of a year
<Kristopher38> tfw times when there was 0
in the decimal place of a yearL50[01:14:28] <ThePiGuy24> ~~btw i use arch~~
[Edited]
<ThePiGuy24> ~~btw i use arch~~
[Edited]L51[01:14:41] <ThePiGuy24> (i dont actually use arch
because i have a life)
<ThePiGuy24> (i dont actually use arch
because i have a life)L52[01:14:43] <Hacka> ah
yes ye.ar
<Hacka> ah
yes ye.arL53[01:14:55] <Hacka>
arch doesn't require a lack of a life to use
<Hacka>
arch doesn't require a lack of a life to useL54[01:15:02] <Hacka> it
requires a lack of a life t oset up
<Hacka> it
requires a lack of a life t oset upL55[01:15:05] <Hacka> it
requires a lack of a life to set up [Edited]
<Hacka> it
requires a lack of a life to set up [Edited]L56[01:15:08] <Hacka>
there's a difference
<Hacka>
there's a differenceL57[01:15:11] <Kristopher38> and then maintain it if
something breaks
<Kristopher38> and then maintain it if
something breaksL58[01:15:28] <Hacka>
i've used manjaro which is basically arch with a 1 week update
stagger
<Hacka>
i've used manjaro which is basically arch with a 1 week update
staggerL59[01:15:35] <Hacka>
nothing ever breaks for me
<Hacka>
nothing ever breaks for meL60[01:15:54] <Hacka>
*unless it's my fault
<Hacka>
*unless it's my faultL61[01:16:03] <Hacka> i
once chowned my entire drive on accident
<Hacka> i
once chowned my entire drive on accidentL62[01:16:14] <Ocawesome101> arch pretty much never
breaks in my experience
<Ocawesome101> arch pretty much never
breaks in my experienceL63[01:16:21] <Ocawesome101> i set it up back in may i
think
<Ocawesome101> i set it up back in may i
thinkL64[01:16:42] <Kristopher38> guess what, I set up my
windows a few years ago and it's still going strong
<Kristopher38> guess what, I set up my
windows a few years ago and it's still going strongL65[01:16:55] <Hacka> my
bluetooth drivers are broken in windows atm
<Hacka> my
bluetooth drivers are broken in windows atmL66[01:17:01] <Hacka>
windows update 1909 broke it
<Hacka>
windows update 1909 broke itL67[01:17:04] <Kristopher38> tbh it all comes down to
experience
<Kristopher38> tbh it all comes down to
experienceL68[01:17:20] <Kristopher38> if you're more experience
on either system you're gonna get proficient in fixing it
<Kristopher38> if you're more experience
on either system you're gonna get proficient in fixing itL69[01:17:21] <Hacka> and
it's a security update that broke it, so i can't roll the update
back
<Hacka> and
it's a security update that broke it, so i can't roll the update
backL70[01:17:30] <Kristopher38> if you're more experienced
on either system you're gonna get proficient in fixing it
[Edited]
<Kristopher38> if you're more experienced
on either system you're gonna get proficient in fixing it
[Edited]L71[01:17:33] <Hacka> i
don't have that much experience on either system
<Hacka> i
don't have that much experience on either systemL72[01:17:37] <Ocawesome101> i set up a windows 10
install and within two months it was dead because the boot
partition was dead
<Ocawesome101> i set up a windows 10
install and within two months it was dead because the boot
partition was deadL73[01:17:39] <Hacka> i'm
just really good at googling
<Hacka> i'm
just really good at googlingL74[01:17:46] <Kristopher38> so you're less likely to
switch
<Kristopher38> so you're less likely to
switchL75[01:17:49] <Hacka> so,
issue? duckduckgo
<Hacka> so,
issue? duckduckgoL76[01:18:26] <Hacka>
linux issues usually boil down to "change this one cfg that
hasn't changed in 3 decades"
<Hacka>
linux issues usually boil down to "change this one cfg that
hasn't changed in 3 decades"L77[01:18:54] <Hacka>
windows issues boil down to "uuh error code
0xsodw2e0231"
<Hacka>
windows issues boil down to "uuh error code
0xsodw2e0231"L78[01:18:54] <Hacka>
manually types in because no copy paste in the error dialogue
<Hacka>
manually types in because no copy paste in the error dialogueL79[01:18:56] <Kristopher38> well I had mpv break down
because obviously some breaking changes happened in some python
script 😒
<Kristopher38> well I had mpv break down
because obviously some breaking changes happened in some python
script 😒L80[01:19:19] <Hacka>
microsoft: run the troubleshooter
<Hacka>
microsoft: run the troubleshooterL81[01:19:19] <Hacka> the
troubleshooter is what's broken
<Hacka> the
troubleshooter is what's brokenL82[01:19:27] <bad at
vijya> oh boy
<bad at
vijya> oh boyL83[01:19:33] <bad at
vijya> for some reason
<bad at
vijya> for some reasonL84[01:19:40] <bad at
vijya> it's taking forever to update things
<bad at
vijya> it's taking forever to update thingsL85[01:19:59] <Hacka>
searches again no troubleshooter
<Hacka>
searches again no troubleshooterL86[01:19:59] <Hacka> run
scannow /sfc
<Hacka> run
scannow /sfcL87[01:19:59] <Hacka>
"we detected errors but could not repair your
device"
<Hacka>
"we detected errors but could not repair your
device"L88[01:20:32] <ThePiGuy24> i solve the issue of updates
breaking things by not updating things until they break themselves
or if i feel like updating them
<ThePiGuy24> i solve the issue of updates
breaking things by not updating things until they break themselves
or if i feel like updating themL89[01:21:06] <simon816> dism restorehealth
or something...
L90[01:21:07] <Hacka> uuh
fuk
<Hacka> uuh
fukL91[01:21:08] <Hacka>
finds some random site where someone else had the same problem in
2013 but never found a solution
<Hacka>
finds some random site where someone else had the same problem in
2013 but never found a solutionL92[01:21:15] <Hacka>
welp, fuck this
<Hacka>
welp, fuck thisL93[01:21:15] <Hacka>
boots up manjaro
<Hacka>
boots up manjaroL95[01:21:31] <MichiBot> When You Google
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Experience | Published On 1/4/2020
L96[01:21:34] <simon816> actually was able
to restore my windows machine once with enough sfc dism and
bcdedit
L97[01:21:45] <Kristopher38> anyway I'm still on windows
since I occasionally like to play games
<Kristopher38> anyway I'm still on windows
since I occasionally like to play gamesL98[01:21:58] <Ocawesome101> proton is p good tbh
<Ocawesome101> proton is p good tbhL99[01:22:09] <Hacka>
pretty much the only reason i'm velcroed to windows is the free
Epic games
<Hacka>
pretty much the only reason i'm velcroed to windows is the free
Epic gamesL100[01:22:21] <Hacka>
Enter the gungeon is pretty fun
<Hacka>
Enter the gungeon is pretty funL101[01:22:34] <Hacka> and
so is like every platformer they've given away so far
<Hacka> and
so is like every platformer they've given away so farL102[01:22:37] <Kristopher38> alright, let's say i wanted
to play first game that comes to my mind
<Kristopher38> alright, let's say i wanted
to play first game that comes to my mindL103[01:22:48] <Kristopher38> supcom forged alliance,
let's check if it's supported by proton
<Kristopher38> supcom forged alliance,
let's check if it's supported by protonL104[01:23:36] <Kristopher38> random website says it
works great under proton
<Kristopher38> random website says it
works great under protonL105[01:23:46] <Kristopher38> alright you passed the
check :)
<Kristopher38> alright you passed the
check :)L106[01:23:52] <Hacka>
also, for some reason my nvme drive bay is only supported by one
specific windows iso that comes preinstalled with Dell
bloatware
<Hacka>
also, for some reason my nvme drive bay is only supported by one
specific windows iso that comes preinstalled with Dell
bloatwareL107[01:24:05] <bad at
vijya> tbh, you need proton-ge for a lot of games
<bad at
vijya> tbh, you need proton-ge for a lot of gamesL108[01:24:24] <Hacka> so,
that's another reason i don't daily drive linux
<Hacka> so,
that's another reason i don't daily drive linuxL109[01:24:53] <Hacka> if
someone could find an iso proven to install flawlessly on wierd
hardware let me know
<Hacka> if
someone could find an iso proven to install flawlessly on wierd
hardware let me knowL110[01:24:57] <bad at
vijya> i daily drive linux now
<bad at
vijya> i daily drive linux nowL111[01:25:13] <bad at
vijya> mostly because windows wouldn't even let me install
it
<bad at
vijya> mostly because windows wouldn't even let me install
itL112[01:25:15] <bad at
vijya> : ^ )
<bad at
vijya> : ^ )L113[01:25:18] <Hacka>
nice
<Hacka>
niceL114[01:25:28] <ThePiGuy24> only reason i use windows is
because UE is shit on linux and i need it for college
<ThePiGuy24> only reason i use windows is
because UE is shit on linux and i need it for collegeL115[01:25:36] <Ocawesome101> UE? Unreal Engine?
<Ocawesome101> UE? Unreal Engine?L116[01:25:37] <Hacka> on
my old laptop(currently being used as a server for like 3 different
things) manjaro works flawlessly
<Hacka> on
my old laptop(currently being used as a server for like 3 different
things) manjaro works flawlesslyL117[01:25:48] <Ocawesome101> does ubuntu work?
<Ocawesome101> does ubuntu work?L118[01:25:53] <Kristopher38> I'm gonna dualboot once I
buy a new ssd
<Kristopher38> I'm gonna dualboot once I
buy a new ssdL119[01:25:55] <Hacka> on
my new one, i literally cannot install it
<Hacka> on
my new one, i literally cannot install itL120[01:25:59] <Hacka>
:Cry:
<Hacka>
:Cry:L121[01:26:01] <ThePiGuy24> yes unreal engine
<ThePiGuy24> yes unreal engineL122[01:26:13] <Ocawesome101> ah
<Ocawesome101> ahL123[01:26:14] <Hacka> fkn
wierd drive bays
<Hacka> fkn
wierd drive baysL124[01:26:26] <bad at
vijya> XORG FUCKING CRASHED
<bad at
vijya> XORG FUCKING CRASHEDL125[01:26:28] <bad at
vijya> WHAT
<bad at
vijya> WHATL126[01:26:34] <Hacka>
when tf does that happen
<Hacka>
when tf does that happenL127[01:26:37] <Hacka>
what did you do
<Hacka>
what did you doL128[01:27:09] <bad at
vijya> >process 830 (systemd-journal) of user 0 dumped
core.
<bad at
vijya> >process 830 (systemd-journal) of user 0 dumped
core.L129[01:27:12] <bad at
vijya> w h a t
<bad at
vijya> w h a tL130[01:27:14] <bad at
vijya> how
<bad at
vijya> howL131[01:27:15] <Hacka>
also, i've got a very stupid concept for an asshole virus
<Hacka>
also, i've got a very stupid concept for an asshole virusL132[01:27:15] <Hacka> a
worm bomb
<Hacka> a
worm bombL133[01:27:16] <Hacka>
it's a fork bomb that's also a worm
<Hacka>
it's a fork bomb that's also a wormL134[01:27:38] <bad at
vijya> well
<bad at
vijya> wellL135[01:27:43] <bad at
vijya> my system locked up
<bad at
vijya> my system locked upL136[01:27:52] <bad at
vijya> OOM
<bad at
vijya> OOML137[01:28:00] <ThePiGuy24> just make a worm that only
tries to spread itself to the current system again over
loopback
<ThePiGuy24> just make a worm that only
tries to spread itself to the current system again over
loopbackL138[01:28:02] <bad at
vijya> it seems
<bad at
vijya> it seemsL139[01:28:39] <bad at
vijya> oh wait
<bad at
vijya> oh waitL140[01:28:44] <bad at
vijya> wtf
<bad at
vijya> wtfL141[01:28:48] <bad at
vijya> was it gtk?
<bad at
vijya> was it gtk?L142[01:28:50] <Hacka>
would a fork bomb that pings your router be a dos attack?
<Hacka>
would a fork bomb that pings your router be a dos attack?L143[01:28:51] <Hacka>
:thonk:
<Hacka>
:thonk:L144[01:28:52] <bad at
vijya> who knows
<bad at
vijya> who knowsL145[01:29:15] <bad at
vijya> might have to reinstall all of my packages smh
<bad at
vijya> might have to reinstall all of my packages smhL146[01:29:22] <Hacka>
oof
<Hacka>
oofL147[01:29:30] <Hacka> you
ever broken a system before
<Hacka> you
ever broken a system beforeL148[01:29:37] <bad at
vijya> yes
<bad at
vijya> yesL149[01:29:38] <Hacka>
stupidest way you did it, go
<Hacka>
stupidest way you did it, goL150[01:29:58] <bad at
vijya> powered off while.running pacman -Syu because i forgot it
was running
<bad at
vijya> powered off while.running pacman -Syu because i forgot it
was runningL151[01:30:00] <bad at
vijya> also
<bad at
vijya> alsoL152[01:30:05] <Hacka> i
accidentally chowned my entire system by forgetting one of these
->`.`
<Hacka> i
accidentally chowned my entire system by forgetting one of these
->`.`L153[01:30:09] <bad at
vijya> systemd broke itself
<bad at
vijya> systemd broke itselfL154[01:30:21] <Hacka>
~~just use wayland~~
<Hacka>
~~just use wayland~~L155[01:30:26] <Hacka> oh
fuck systemd?
<Hacka> oh
fuck systemd?L156[01:30:27] <Hacka>
jesus
<Hacka>
jesusL157[01:30:29] <bad at
vijya> yes
<bad at
vijya> yesL158[01:30:35] <bad at
vijya> it restarted a systemd process
<bad at
vijya> it restarted a systemd processL159[01:30:40] <bad at
vijya> while updating
<bad at
vijya> while updatingL160[01:30:51] <bad at
vijya> and took the entire system down
<bad at
vijya> and took the entire system downL161[01:30:58] <Hacka>
suicidal system
<Hacka>
suicidal systemL162[01:31:03] <Hacka>
~~just like america~~
<Hacka>
~~just like america~~L163[01:31:09] <Hacka>
anyway, uh
<Hacka>
anyway, uhL164[01:31:20] <Hacka> why
would that happen
<Hacka> why
would that happenL165[01:31:30] <Hacka> was
systemd being updated
<Hacka> was
systemd being updatedL166[01:31:42] <bad at
vijya> yes
<bad at
vijya> yesL167[01:32:07] <bad at
vijya> i hope i have ways to connect w/o networkmanager
<bad at
vijya> i hope i have ways to connect w/o networkmanagerL168[01:32:27] <Hacka>
~~just use a kali drive~~
<Hacka>
~~just use a kali drive~~L169[01:32:27] <Hacka> in
all seriousness, i hope you have backups
<Hacka> in
all seriousness, i hope you have backupsL170[01:32:30] <bad at
vijya> wait do i even have /sbin/init
<bad at
vijya> wait do i even have /sbin/initL171[01:33:12] <Hacka>
also, what distro are you using for systemd to just topple like
that
<Hacka>
also, what distro are you using for systemd to just topple like
thatL172[01:33:13] <bad at
vijya> oh well, time to get an arc install drive out
<bad at
vijya> oh well, time to get an arc install drive outL173[01:33:32] <Hacka> i
hope you have an install script
<Hacka> i
hope you have an install scriptL174[01:33:33] <bad at
vijya> wild shit
<bad at
vijya> wild shitL175[01:33:39] <bad at
vijya> >install script
<bad at
vijya> >install scriptL176[01:33:41] <bad at
vijya> imagine
<bad at
vijya> imagineL177[01:33:51] <bad at
vijya> all i need to do is chroot in
<bad at
vijya> all i need to do is chroot inL178[01:34:07] <bad at
vijya> and reinstall all packages
<bad at
vijya> and reinstall all packagesL179[01:34:13] <Hacka> if
i planned on reinstalling arch in the future, i'd have an sh
handy
<Hacka> if
i planned on reinstalling arch in the future, i'd have an sh
handyL180[01:34:46] <Hacka>
and, question
<Hacka>
and, questionL181[01:34:46] <Hacka> how
has this not happened to other people in the pas
<Hacka> how
has this not happened to other people in the pasL182[01:34:47] <Hacka>
and, question
<Hacka>
and, questionL183[01:34:47] <Hacka> how
has this not happened to other people in the past [Edited]
<Hacka> how
has this not happened to other people in the past [Edited]L184[01:34:54] <Hacka> is
it a pacman issue, or what
<Hacka> is
it a pacman issue, or whatL185[01:35:12] <bad at
vijya> no clue
<bad at
vijya> no clueL186[01:37:13] <Hacka>
wierd idk
<Hacka>
wierd idkL187[01:37:24] <Hacka> ima
go and attempt to do something
<Hacka> ima
go and attempt to do somethingL188[01:37:35] <bad at
vijya> not too worried tbh
<bad at
vijya> not too worried tbhL189[01:37:52] <bad at
vijya> seems like my last update got interrupted anyways
so
<bad at
vijya> seems like my last update got interrupted anyways
soL190[01:38:52] <Hacka> is
there much of a learning curve between tis-100 and tis-3d
<Hacka> is
there much of a learning curve between tis-100 and tis-3dL191[01:38:57] <Hacka>
other than the hex change
<Hacka>
other than the hex changeL192[01:49:29] <bad at
vijya> oh boy
<bad at
vijya> oh boyL193[01:49:36] <bad at
vijya> filesystem ereors
<bad at
vijya> filesystem ereorsL194[01:49:58] <bad at
vijya> can't access /etc
<bad at
vijya> can't access /etcL195[01:50:05] <bad at
vijya> fucking amazing
<bad at
vijya> fucking amazingL196[01:50:56] <bad at
vijya> thank you systemd, very cool
<bad at
vijya> thank you systemd, very coolL197[01:53:36] <bad at
vijya> n i c e
<bad at
vijya> n i c eL198[01:53:57] <bad at
vijya> looks like i will have to reinstall
<bad at
vijya> looks like i will have to reinstallL199[02:18:18] <bad at
vijya> HOW DID I LOSE
<bad at
vijya> HOW DID I LOSEL200[02:18:25] <bad at
vijya> /VAR/LIB/PACMAN
<bad at
vijya> /VAR/LIB/PACMANL201[02:18:30] <bad at
vijya> WHAT
<bad at
vijya> WHATL202[02:19:02] *
Amanda walks out of a dark alley, files laying
everywhere
L203[02:19:49] <Amanda> I don't think this
is a systemd issue
L204[02:20:25] <bad at
vijya> oh
<bad at
vijya> ohL205[02:20:26] <Amanda> Sounds like
another massive change arch only bothered to document on a blog
post
L206[02:20:37] <bad at
vijya> i forgot to mount /var
<bad at
vijya> i forgot to mount /varL207[02:20:39] <bad at
vijya> nevermind
<bad at
vijya> nevermindL208[02:20:52] <bad at
vijya> that was a user error this time
<bad at
vijya> that was a user error this timeL209[02:21:16] <bad at
vijya> glad i had external /var tho
<bad at
vijya> glad i had external /var thoL210[02:21:34] <bad at
vijya> makes recovering my install much easier
<bad at
vijya> makes recovering my install much easierL211[02:28:11] <bad at
vijya> wtf about no free disk space
<bad at
vijya> wtf about no free disk spaceL212[02:52:01] <bad at
vijya> well
<bad at
vijya> wellL213[02:52:09] <bad at
vijya> a bunch of firsts here
<bad at
vijya> a bunch of firsts hereL214[02:52:15] <bad at
vijya> first broken arch install
<bad at
vijya> first broken arch installL215[02:52:17] <bad at
vijya> like
<bad at
vijya> likeL216[02:52:20] <bad at
vijya> horribly broken
<bad at
vijya> horribly brokenL217[02:52:32] <bad at
vijya> first problem with f2fs, too
<bad at
vijya> first problem with f2fs, tooL218[02:58:59] *
Amanda yawns, curls back up around Elfi, having gone off for moms,
zzzmews with a full belly
L219[02:59:10] <Amanda> Noms not
moms
L220[02:59:32] <Amanda> Night nerds
L221[03:01:14] <bad at
vijya> pacstap fixed it
<bad at
vijya> pacstap fixed itL222[03:01:18] <bad at
vijya> holy fuck
<bad at
vijya> holy fuckL223[03:01:19] <bad at
vijya> based
<bad at
vijya> basedL224[03:14:42] ⇦
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L225[03:18:13] <bad at
vijya> why
<bad at
vijya> whyL226[03:18:21] <bad at
vijya> why is d-bus broken
<bad at
vijya> why is d-bus brokenL227[03:18:27] <bad at
vijya> and create system users broken
<bad at
vijya> and create system users brokenL228[03:18:29] <bad at
vijya> why
<bad at
vijya> whyL229[03:37:57] <CompanionCube> reminds me
of the time *something* decimated /usr/bin on the pi3
L230[03:38:23] <CompanionCube> i had to
resort to using python to extract packages so i could get coreutils
and pacman back
L231[03:44:21] <bad at
vijya> oof
<bad at
vijya> oofL232[03:44:38] <bad at
vijya> idk why fsck told my directory structure to go to hell
but oh well
<bad at
vijya> idk why fsck told my directory structure to go to hell
but oh wellL233[03:46:12] <bad at
vijya> *fsck.f2fs
<bad at
vijya> *fsck.f2fsL234[04:43:45] ⇦
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L236[05:04:35] <ThePiGuy24> neat
<ThePiGuy24> neatL237[05:05:17] <Ocawesome101> now i have a single place
to point people when they ask about it
<Ocawesome101> now i have a single place
to point people when they ask about itL238[05:05:25] <Ocawesome101> which is nice
<Ocawesome101> which is niceL239[05:05:53] <Izaya> should probably do
that for PsychOS at some point
L240[05:06:01] <Izaya> though the repo
seems as appropriate a place as any to point at
L241[05:06:11] <Ocawesome101> psychos.shadowkat.net
gang
<Ocawesome101> psychos.shadowkat.net
gangL242[05:06:39] <Izaya> well, there's
https://oc.shadowkat.net/psychos/
L243[05:06:47] <Izaya> so I could make
that a proper page
L244[05:06:52] <Ocawesome101> true
<Ocawesome101> trueL245[05:07:23] <Ocawesome101> ah neat i see you also
compile your documentation to web format
<Ocawesome101> ah neat i see you also
compile your documentation to web formatL246[05:07:28] <Ocawesome101> mine is better tho
<Ocawesome101> mine is better thoL247[05:07:49] <Izaya> yeah it's a little
broken because the markdown parser I'm using doesn't work properly
for how I want to use it
L248[05:08:00] <Izaya> really I should be
using pandoc but I'm lazy
L249[05:08:12] <Ocawesome101> ah lol
<Ocawesome101> ah lolL250[05:08:46] <Izaya> I can set an
initial heading level with pandoc too
L251[05:08:50] <Izaya> which would be good
for the docs
L252[05:09:04] <Izaya> but that's just
another thing I have to do
L253[05:09:06] <Izaya> y'know?
L254[05:09:50] <Ocawesome101> yeah :P
<Ocawesome101> yeah :PL255[05:10:46] <Izaya> it's hard to get
things done when all you want to do is sleep and read and work and
other people keep interrupting >.>
L256[05:11:19] <Izaya> s/d and w/d but
w/
L257[05:11:19] <MichiBot> <Izaya>
it's hard to get things done when all you want to do is sleep and
read but work and other people keep interrupting >.>
L258[05:12:11] <Izaya> I'll admit that
sorting plants does induce a very relaxed state though
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L263[05:53:52] <Forecaster> %tonk
<Forecaster> %tonkL264[05:53:53] <MichiBot> Darn it!
Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 6 hours,
27 minutes and 19 seconds (By 13 minutes and 28 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L265[05:53:54] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 6 hours, 40 minutes and 47 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00154 (0.00022 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #1.
L266[05:54:07] <ThePiGuy24> bah
<ThePiGuy24> bahL267[05:54:19] <ThePiGuy24> was just finding the last
tonl
<ThePiGuy24> was just finding the last
tonlL268[05:54:21] <ThePiGuy24> *tonk
<ThePiGuy24> *tonkL269[05:54:34] <Forecaster> I had prepared earlier
:>
<Forecaster> I had prepared earlier
:>L270[05:54:36] <CompanionCube> you wait
for a nice round number and forecaster steals it :(
L271[05:55:07] <CompanionCube> i *will*
reclaim the #1 spot :p
L273[06:09:14] <Forecaster> ...I was turned into a
bat
<Forecaster> ...I was turned into a
batL274[06:09:16] <Forecaster> D:<
<Forecaster> D:<L275[06:17:16] <bad at
vijya> FtD has a Lua block
<bad at
vijya> FtD has a Lua blockL276[06:17:19] <bad at
vijya> 👀
<bad at
vijya> 👀L277[06:17:40] <bad at
vijya> and I can use Lua to do missile guidance
<bad at
vijya> and I can use Lua to do missile guidanceL278[06:19:17] <Michiyo> Damn it.. I was
beaten to 100,000 lines..
L279[06:19:44] *
Michiyo replaces 400 lines of V-ex's text with her own
L280[06:19:44] <ThePiGuy24> vexxed
<ThePiGuy24> vexxedL281[06:20:27] ⇦
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L283[06:22:29] <bad at
vijya> oh, i can also aim weapons with lua
<bad at
vijya> oh, i can also aim weapons with luaL284[06:22:40] <bad at
vijya> i can finally make the most overpowered submarine
ever
<bad at
vijya> i can finally make the most overpowered submarine
everL285[06:22:41] <bad at
vijya> :)
<bad at
vijya> :)L286[06:28:49] <Michiyo> Stats are fixed
though
L287[06:28:56] <Michiyo> Turns out a
Discord user broke it.
L288[06:29:00] <Michiyo> Thanks Discord
users.
L289[06:29:13] <Michiyo> So, now I just do
$this->htmlify(${'v'.$col} ?? 'nick') lmao
L290[06:29:39] <Michiyo> before it was
just $this->htmlify(${'v'.$col}), and ${'v'.$col} was null for
one single Discord user <_<
L291[06:30:02] <CompanionCube> so they
admitted it, hah!
L292[06:30:04] <CompanionCube> https://order-order.com/2020/11/10/number-10s-message-to-biden-originally-congratulated-trump/
L293[06:30:10] <Forecaster> it works!
<Forecaster> it works!L294[06:31:52] <Forecaster> Michiyo the selene files
fixed it
<Forecaster> Michiyo the selene files
fixed itL295[06:32:24] <Forecaster> thanks for un-breaking what
you broke :P
<Forecaster> thanks for un-breaking what
you broke :PL296[06:38:48] <Michiyo> @Forecaster, you
can just revert out https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/commit/6265e490cfe078c0d66f290d05d964381de1f823
L297[06:39:19] <Michiyo> I did that
because I got annoyed having to hit ignore on those every time I
ran a local build
L298[06:39:41] <Forecaster> I already put them back
manually?
<Forecaster> I already put them back
manually?L299[06:44:42] ⇦
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L300[07:16:37] <Forecaster> %restart
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L303[07:16:53]
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L304[07:19:51] <ThePiGuy24> %sip
<ThePiGuy24> %sipL305[07:19:52] <MichiBot> You drink a
stirring quicksilver potion (New!). As ThePiGuy24 drinks the potion
they become the target of a wad of llama spit! They fail to evade
it with a 3 vs DC 12 and takes 1d4 => 1 damage.
L306[07:20:05] <ThePiGuy24> f
<ThePiGuy24> fL307[07:26:52] <Forecaster> at least you didn't get one
of the new ones
<Forecaster> at least you didn't get one
of the new onesL308[07:26:54] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL309[07:26:54] <MichiBot> You drink a soft
pink potion (New!). A bard starts playing a lute behind Forecaster.
They don't stop.
L310[07:27:07] <Forecaster> %stab the bard
<Forecaster> %stab the bardL311[07:27:07] <MichiBot> Forecaster is
trying to stab the bard! They have 5 minutes if they want to
attempt to %defend against it!
L312[07:27:44] <Forecaster> oh yeah, was gonna debug that
too
<Forecaster> oh yeah, was gonna debug that
tooL313[07:32:11] <MichiBot> Forecaster is
stabbing the bard with a Magic bowling 8ball! (25%) for 1d4 => 1
(Magic +2) => 3 damage!
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L315[08:36:03] <Michiyo> %sip
L316[08:36:03] <MichiBot> You drink a
runny violet potion (New!). Michiyo's eyes glow the color of void
until they say the phrase "Classic Doom".
L317[08:36:15] <Michiyo> huh...
L318[08:36:54] <Forecaster> neat
<Forecaster> neatL319[08:44:07]
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L320[08:44:07]
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L321[08:44:28] <Michiyo> I'mma just +m Vex
now
L322[08:44:50] <Michiyo> Oh.. Hi
Vex...
L323[08:44:51] <Michiyo> Umm
L324[08:44:52] <Michiyo> nothing
L325[08:46:21] <Vexatos> hm yes
L326[08:47:01] <Michiyo> You just broke
100k lines
L327[08:47:19] <Vexatos> yay
L328[08:47:26] <Vexatos> 🎉
L329[08:47:32] <Vexatos> you lost
Michiyo
L330[08:47:34] <Vexatos> or
something
L331[08:48:54] <Inari> Nep
L332[08:49:26] <Izaya> vex is catching
up
L333[08:49:41] <Michiyo> Yes, I
lost.
L334[08:49:43] <Michiyo> Am sad.
L335[08:50:03] <Vexatos> it shall be even
more painful to you knowing that I really don't care
whatsoever
L336[08:51:11] <Michiyo> I don't really
either
L337[08:51:12] <Michiyo> lmao
L338[08:51:26] <Michiyo> But big number go
brrrrrrrr
L339[08:51:33] <Michiyo> or..
something
L340[08:51:43] <Vexatos> nono you are
supposed to wail in anguish now
L341[08:51:50] <Michiyo> Oh...
L342[08:51:53] <Michiyo> umm.
L343[08:51:56] <Forecaster> but there is bigger
number!
<Forecaster> but there is bigger
number!L344[08:52:02] <Vexatos> bigger number
good!!!
L345[08:52:22] <Forecaster> I mean, you have big number
now, but there is bigger number
<Forecaster> I mean, you have big number
now, but there is bigger numberL346[08:52:26] <Izaya> so I moved ARK to
my btrfs (+ compression) HDD instead of my ext4 HDD I have for just
games
L347[08:52:39] <Izaya> it's significantly
faster to load from btrfs
L348[08:52:48] <Izaya> and on disk it
takes up 75GB less
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L351[10:02:38] <dequbed> Izaya: Welcome to
the age of "Hard drives are now slow enough that compression
means real benefits while the internet has become fast enough that
it doesn't"
L352[10:04:37] <t20kdc> with a compression
ratio that large, the question has to be raised: how much of that
is ARK's fault
L353[10:05:30] <dequbed> Most.
L354[10:06:27] <dequbed> But you get
speedups with a good enough CPU for just about everything even on
7k2 disks.
L355[10:07:07] <dequbed> (de)compression
nowadays is so little overhead that even if it's only 10%
compression you get most of that as speedup.
L356[10:07:21] <Vexatos> I mean there is
compression software written specifically to run in realtime
now
L357[10:07:34] <Vexatos> CPUs have gotten
so much faster than Disk I/O that it is becoming a thing
L358[10:07:44] <dequbed> Yes, my point
exactly.
L359[10:07:58] <Vexatos> like zstd, the
only good thing to ever come out of facebook
L360[10:08:06] <t20kdc> DEFLATE is
definitely a cheap thing to decompress relative to the power
involved, unsure about other algorithms
L361[10:09:14] <Vexatos> zstd was made
specifically to compress logs in real time, instead of logging to a
file you pipe all stdout directly into zstd and it's compressing
faster than the disk I/O anyway so there's supposed to be no
overhead
L362[10:09:31] <Izaya> I need to switch to
zlib for the ARK files
L363[10:09:37] <Vexatos> (also it's
actually better than gzip)
L364[10:10:24] <Vexatos> but ark's file
size being _that_ bad really just means that ark is bad :P
L365[10:12:58] <Izaya> it is
L366[10:13:35] <Izaya> uh, switch to zstd
rather
L367[10:14:17] <dequbed> I wouldn't say
zstd is "better" than gzip, that statement would be
reserved for an algorithm doing /everything/ better than the other
one. zstd has different tradeoffs and (last I checked) used
(comparatively) large amounts of RAM for decompression.
L368[10:14:46] <Izaya> as I'm running the
windows version of ARK and not the linux version, I'm not lacking
RAM
L369[10:15:09] <Vexatos> oh my
"better" ignored RAM usage
L370[10:15:18] <Elfi> You know what's fun?
Writing an lzjb decompressor for a limited memory space
L371[10:15:20] <Vexatos> it has better
compression ratios and runs faster, at least for me
L372[10:15:24] <dequbed> That it
does
L373[10:15:27] <Vexatos> as RAM is rarely
a concern
L374[10:15:29] <dequbed> For both
accounts.
L375[10:15:48] <Vexatos> unless you're on
a small computer
L376[10:16:53] <Vexatos> it is always a
good feeling to run lrzip on half a year's worth of text files and
see compression ratios like 18x though
L377[10:17:48] <dequbed> But in general
there are different algorithms for different usecases. If you're
going to compress packages that are compressed once, then
downloaded thousands of times you want the best compression ratio
combined with stability. If you're compressing in-flight data,
speed may be more important.
L378[10:18:28] <dequbed> In other words,
be suspect of anybody that tells you that XYZ is the
"best" without asking you for your usecase first ;)
L379[10:18:35] <Vexatos> the only reason
to use gz in currentyear is the fact that it's installed on every
toaster with an ALU
L380[10:19:27] <Vexatos> but even then you
see more and more tar.xz files instead
L381[10:20:21] <dequbed> Vexatos:
Everytime you make an absolute statement a puppy dies. Aren't you a
scientist? :p
L382[10:27:45] <Lizzy> dequbed, I'll have
you know that SuperDooperMagicCompressionAlgorithem is the best for
every test and can achieve compression ratios of 1000x due to the
use of pocket dimensions!
L383[10:28:37] <Vexatos> lrzip feels like
that it just takes 1 time until heat death of the universe to do
so
L384[10:30:08] <dequbed> Lizzy: While
you're here, string theory is missing a few rolled up dimensions.
Did you snack on them again?
L385[10:30:16] <t20kdc> if the concern is
turning 100 to 200K of Lua code into sub-64K, DEFLATE is the best
one that I am aware of, even accounting for the size of the
implementation itself when written in near-plain Lua 5.2/5.3.
L386[10:30:25] <Lizzy> n... nooo...
L387[10:30:33] *
Lizzy puts the dimensions back
L388[10:31:01] <Vexatos> I think we have
deflate implemented for OpenOS
L389[10:31:09] <dequbed> Lizzy: Come on
love you know people get suspicious if there are dimensions
missing. And it's always either you or Ariri. Or Amanda throwing
them of the table.
L390[10:31:15] *
Lizzy deflates Vexatos
L391[10:31:15] <t20kdc> Vexatos: With or
without data card?
L392[10:31:32] <Vexatos> it was made
before datacards
L393[10:31:36] <Vexatos> no clue if it
still works :P
L394[10:31:56] <t20kdc> that said, the
exact numbers matter - for smaller outputs DEFLATE implementations
are too big to be worth it
L395[10:32:07] <t20kdc> i.e. EEPROMs can't
use DEFLATE sanely
L396[10:32:36] <dequbed> t20kdc: I mean
LZ77-algs are not that complex. With bitops you can implement them
easily. Won't be fast or anything but who cares?
L397[10:33:43] <t20kdc> dequbed: exactly,
and that's what I would use at smaller sizes
L398[10:33:51] <Elfi> I rather liked lzjb
when played with it. The decompressor is absolutely tiny
L399[10:34:15] <dequbed> t20kdc: Well ...
yes. You won't exactly find a modern compression algorithm that
*isn't* based on LZ77.
L400[10:36:19] <t20kdc> dequbed: it's just
that at larger sizes the added Huffman stuff DEFLATE has gives an
advantage... of course then there's the hybrid solution: use an
LZ77 decompressor to chain-load DEFLATE decompressor, which helps
lower the overhead of that a bit, but still not worth it for
EEPROMs
L401[10:38:23] <Elfi> Maybe I should port
that lzjb decompressor to OC lua
L402[10:39:03] <dequbed> Elfi: Do it
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L404[10:40:13] <dequbed> t20kdc: Also
turns out bzip2 does not actually contain a LZ step. So there is a
popular algorithm out there that isn't even based on LZ77.
L405[10:40:55] <t20kdc> yeaaah... for my
use-case bzip2 sounds too complicated
L406[10:43:03] <dequbed> Just implement
Nintendo LZSS! :p
L407[10:44:22] <Izaya> https://git.shadowkat.net/izaya/OC-misc/src/branch/master/lzsip/OpenOS/usr/lib/lzss.lua
L408[10:44:27] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya wrote
it
L409[10:44:30] <Izaya> wait no
L410[10:44:32] <Izaya> found it
L411[10:44:35] <Izaya> it was on
github
L412[10:44:49] <Izaya> IIRC
L413[10:45:06] <t20kdc> LZSS looks
interesting, but that said I think I kinda have something close
enough to it already
L414[10:45:42] <dequbed> Izaya: Nintedo
designed a LZSS-based compression for the GBA which has some
Huffman encoding as well but it's super cheap to implement in ASM.
Like some 200 bytes worth of assembly.
L415[10:46:10] <Izaya> That sounds neat
/o/
L416[10:46:48] <dequbed> Problem is I have
no idea how that translates to Lua. Do the EEPROM have block-device
style access?
L417[10:47:04] <t20kdc> EEPROM uses
get/set string of the entire data area
L418[10:47:11] <t20kdc> (and code if
that's what you want to do)
L419[10:47:39] <t20kdc> the system I use
uses the high bit of a byte - if it's 1, this is a window
reference, if it's 0, this is a verbatim byte - this is not 8-bit
clean, but for the purposes I was using it for it was cheaper than
an LZSS implementation would be
L420[10:48:06] <dequbed> Ah okay so
specialized for strings.
L421[10:48:45] <t20kdc> well, I was using
it to chain-load the DEFLATE implementation (which was 8-bit-clean)
but it could work on any 7-bit only Lua code
L422[10:50:45] <t20kdc> I also made a
transform to turn data that was mostly 7-bit but occasionally used
the upper 8th bit into 7-bit clean data via an escape character,
and this is what pre-DEFLATE versions of KittenOS NEO's installer
used
L423[10:53:19] <t20kdc> i.e. to compress,
perform that transform from 8-to-7 followed by somewhat rearranged
LZSS (since the flags are in the upper bit of the first byte of
each individual 'piece')
L424[10:54:46] <t20kdc> fact is, switching
to DEFLATE chainloading was a net benefit in terms of compression
ratio from this system, but that's because of the size of the
input
L425[10:55:05] <t20kdc> if this was an
EEPROM, the DEFLATE chainloader would take up way too much
space
L426[10:55:51] <t20kdc> https://github.com/20kdc/OC-KittenOS/blob/master/inst/bdvlite/instdeco.lua
L427[10:56:21] <t20kdc> come to think of
it, since this is now used only to chain-load DEFLATE, it doesn't
really need to implement the sliding window
L428[11:04:13] <t20kdc> ...but anyway,
it's... some compression algorithm derived vaguely from LZ that was
optimized for decompressor size above all else
L429[11:04:38] <t20kdc> and thus had
things like "8-bit-clean" that the good LZs have
removed
L430[11:05:04] <t20kdc> LZSS looks like
the closest relative
L431[11:05:18] <t20kdc> since it's more or
less a rearrangement of where the bits are from that
L432[11:30:46] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L433[11:30:46] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 6
hours, 40 minutes and 47 seconds this time. 5 hours, 36 minutes and
53 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 3 minutes and 54
seconds!
L434[11:39:12] <Wattana>
mind if I ask for some coding advice?
<Wattana>
mind if I ask for some coding advice?L435[11:39:37] <Forecaster> pretty sure that's
illegal
<Forecaster> pretty sure that's
illegalL436[11:42:52] <Wattana>
ok so some times ago I implemented syscall handling for OCLinux and
it looks like this: Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/wojeperede
<Wattana>
ok so some times ago I implemented syscall handling for OCLinux and
it looks like this: Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/wojeperedeL437[11:43:44] <Wattana>
and the sandboxed coroutine have to do this to communicate with the
kernel: Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/bayudafebo
<Wattana>
and the sandboxed coroutine have to do this to communicate with the
kernel: Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/bayudafeboL438[11:44:15] <Wattana> I
initially used this method because it obviously prevent the
sandboxed coroutine from sending weird payloads to the kernel side
but this method seems kinda complicated
<Wattana> I
initially used this method because it obviously prevent the
sandboxed coroutine from sending weird payloads to the kernel side
but this method seems kinda complicatedL439[11:45:27] <Wattana>
Should I rewrite it and change it to a type where the sandboxed
code send requests through `coroutine.yield()` as a function and
have it execute & return via a custom stripped down ENV?
<Wattana>
Should I rewrite it and change it to a type where the sandboxed
code send requests through `coroutine.yield()` as a function and
have it execute & return via a custom stripped down ENV?L440[11:49:03]
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L441[12:07:41] <Amanda> dequbed: lies!
Slanderous lies! I've never pushed a dimension off a table! Maybe a
universal constant or two, but never a dimension
L442[12:16:49] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL443[12:16:49] <MichiBot> You drink a
sedimented yellow potion (New!). A voice whispers a secret into
Forecaster's ear only they can hear.
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L445[12:17:22] <Forecaster> Amanda did what with a
dimension?!
<Forecaster> Amanda did what with a
dimension?!L446[12:22:30] <Amanda> Nothing! I sue
you!
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L453[12:57:56] <Forecaster> Probably went something like
this
<Forecaster> Probably went something like
thisL455[13:15:30] <Izaya> okay so with zstd I
have the game shrunken from 250GB down to 177
L456[13:21:13] <stephan48> game?
L457[13:21:20] <Izaya> ARK: Survival
Evolved
L458[13:21:21] <Amanda> will shrink
you
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L460[14:02:49] *
Amanda calculates the exact amount of food she'll need to pack for
Inari's rocket trip to saturn.
L461[14:03:03] *
Amanda looks at Inari, adds acouple more zeros
L462[14:24:04] <Inari> Rude
L463[14:24:33] <dequbed> Ouch.
L464[14:25:06] <Amanda> Again, not my
fault the cat space program doesn't account for humanoid
foxes!
L465[14:34:20] <SkyCrafter0> %tonkout
<SkyCrafter0> %tonkoutL466[14:34:20] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
SkyCrafter0, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 6
hours, 40 minutes and 47 seconds this time. 3 hours, 3 minutes and
34 seconds were wasted! Missed by 3 hours, 37 minutes and 13
seconds!
L467[14:34:25] <SkyCrafter0> ;(
<SkyCrafter0> ;(L468[14:36:50]
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L471[15:44:39] <Amanda> WEll, that's nice.
I get a Stadia pro kit for 'free' as well as a 3-month trial.
L472[15:45:28] <Amanda> https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/10/21558820/youtube-premium-subscribers-free-stadia-premiere-edition-bundle-deals
-- it stacks with my family's Google One subscription, giving us 3
months of a trial instead of 1-month
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L475[15:53:20] <Z0idberg>
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/584106582359408660/775918492695265310/unknown.png?width=854&height=480
<Z0idberg>
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L481[16:08:19] <Wattana>
@Z0idberg thats pretty cursed
<Wattana>
@Z0idberg thats pretty cursedL482[16:08:26] <Wattana>
....or blessed?
<Wattana>
....or blessed?L483[16:11:37] <Ariri>
dequbed: I’ll have you know that it’s not missing if no one in that
dimension knows that they are lost in the fabric of space-time
cheese. And if I- sort of- know where it is.
<Ariri>
dequbed: I’ll have you know that it’s not missing if no one in that
dimension knows that they are lost in the fabric of space-time
cheese. And if I- sort of- know where it is.L484[16:14:57] ⇦
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L486[16:17:00] <Izaya> S3: that works on
several levels
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L491[16:34:27] <Wattana>
@Forecaster whats that game?
<Wattana>
@Forecaster whats that game?L492[16:34:48] <Forecaster> search for the last time
someone asked me that
<Forecaster> search for the last time
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L494[16:37:35] <dequbed> I wonder how the
next EU encryption law is going to apply to XMPP/Matrix.
L495[16:38:02] <dequbed> Like I can't
exactly force people to not use OMEMO. I can't even prove they
*are* using OMEMO.
L496[16:38:02] <Inari> encryption laws
:disgust:
L497[16:38:20] <dequbed> Much less I can
break open that encryption on the whims of the police o.O
L498[16:38:51] <Inari> Encryption would be
somewhat pointless if you could tbh
L499[16:38:53] <dequbed> Ye sorry officer
I can give you all stanzas currently flowing through muh server but
I ain't exactly in control of the content, eh?
L500[16:39:03] <Ariri>
^^
<Ariri>
^^L501[16:39:56] <dequbed> Inari: See the
way the draft regulation is worded I have to be able to do
that.
L502[16:40:58] <Inari> Ugh
L503[16:41:25] <dequbed> Oh also they are
calling upon academia to develop breakable encryption. If they get
anything more than crickets back I will be very disappointed in my
fellow cryptographers.
L504[16:41:35] <Inari> wouldn't that make
end-to-end encryption illegal
L505[16:41:49] <dequbed> No, not if you
can MitM it.
L506[16:42:03] <Inari> Is it really
end-to-end then?
L507[16:42:04] <dequbed> Which yes means
it's not E2EE in the first place.
L508[16:42:22] <t20kdc> so... it is
illegal then
L509[16:42:27] <t20kdc> if that goes
through
L510[16:42:40] <dequbed> Well it has to be
poured into law first.
L511[16:42:43] <Inari> I hate politics
:D
L512[16:42:47] <dequbed> This is just a
resolution
L513[16:42:50] <dequbed> Inari: Go vote
then.
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L515[16:43:26] <Inari> Can't vote for
everything
L516[16:43:36] <Inari> Have to vote for
super braod things that have 95% I either disagree with or don't
care
L517[16:44:04] <dequbed> Inari: No, but
people not voting in the EU election is one of the reasons why so
many fuckers in Brussels are just completely outta whack.
L518[16:44:24] <Inari> I don't trust
people to vote well anyway XD
L519[16:45:19] <Inari> If you had two
parties A and B, it feels like 40% of the people would vote for
whichever party they voted for all their life regardless, and the
other 40% would vote for whichever party currently isn't in power
because "x y z current party did sucks, and we've forgotten
other party also sucked"
L520[16:45:48] <dequbed> t20kdc: But
anyway. Depending on the wording of the local law it could be
illegal to deploy crypto *as organization* (meaning e.g. Signal
would be illegal to deploy in Europe), illegal to *transport* E2EE
(e.g. XMPP would be illegal if it didn't block OMEMO) or illegal to
*use* E2EE (If you use OMEMO you're breaking the law)
L521[16:46:14] <dequbed> Inari: Luckily in
Europe we tend to not have two-party systems.
L522[16:46:30] <t20kdc> Inari: that second
40% makes the most sense on the basis that if they only have those
two options anyway, better not the people doing stuff now
L523[16:47:27] <Amanda> Giant Meteor
2020
L524[16:47:35] <Inari> dequbed: Same thing
with more parties really though
L525[16:47:35] <Inari> :p
L526[16:47:45] <Amanda> Anyway, what'd I
miss? My internet was being disassembled
L527[16:47:57] <t20kdc> Amanda: you missed
the mass uplifting of all cats to deities
L528[16:48:12] <Amanda> t20kdc: That
already happen a long time ago, though?
L529[16:48:21] <dequbed> t20kdc: For me
the biggest issue is option #2. Option #1 is ergh but using any
communication provider nowadays is equally bad fullstop, Option #3
would be very un-european and probably not pass judicial in most
countries.
L530[16:48:50] <dequbed> Inari: No, with
more than two it's generally shades of bad and people vote for the
least bad alternative instead of just "for the other
guy".
L531[16:48:52] <t20kdc> Amanda: the second
mass uplifting, and the great Meow Empire
L532[16:49:23] <Amanda> why would there
need to be a second one? All cats are already born of divine
blood.
L533[16:49:36] <t20kdc> dequbed: the
problem is, we have a 3-party system and what happens is, the
majority agree party A is bad, but they're split between B and C,
so A get in anyway
L534[16:50:00] <dequbed> t20kdc: Nah the
actual problem is that you have a first-pass-the-pole system.
L535[16:50:24] <Amanda> Dude... pass the
pole, quit hogging it!
L536[16:50:59] <dequbed> Representative
systems have their own share of problems but unless one party gets
actually 50% of the people behind themselves they don't get to
/just rule/.
L537[16:51:21] <Forecaster> %sip
<Forecaster> %sipL538[16:51:22] <MichiBot> You drink a
gloomy naqahdah potion (New!). Forecaster's hair glows the color of
boneboo until they eat a pie.
L539[16:51:34] <Inari> dequbed: Just means
it's SDP one timea nd CDU the other, with a few FDP sometimes
:p
L540[16:51:35] <Forecaster> hmm
<Forecaster> hmmL541[16:51:57] <t20kdc> dequbed: well, I'm
referring to when the A/B/C thing applies at the representative
level
L542[16:52:31] <dequbed> Inari: You're
forgetting the noAFD, Linke, Greens. All of which are getting
bigger and bigger shares in the last elections for different
reasons.
L543[16:54:16] <dequbed> t20kdc: If you
have representative voting and the Majority vote for B&C then a
coalition of B&C has the majority and will rule. A will go in
opposition. What exactly do you think happens instead? o.O
L544[16:55:12] <Amanda> Anyway, let's talk
about happier stuff. Like the third world war we're still waiting
for so that humans can into warp
L545[16:55:33] <t20kdc> Amanda: are cats
already into warp
L546[16:55:59] <Amanda> t20kdc: where we
are, we don't need into warp
L547[16:56:35] <Skye> I was informed that
my knowledge of voting systyems mighgt be of use
L548[16:56:57] <Skye> First Past the Post
is bad
L549[16:57:07] <Skye> anything else?
L550[16:57:11] *
dequbed claps
L551[16:57:47] <Amanda> Skye: what about
last past the most?
L552[16:59:09] <Amanda> Hrm. That's
worrying, why am I not getting data from the prometheus exporterfor
my modem anymore.
L553[16:59:27] <Skye> Amanda, that took me
a while to realise you were joking
L554[16:59:29] <Amanda> I wanted to see
the pretty graphs after the cable man removed at least two
splitters between the house and the modem
L555[16:59:50] <Skye> I cannot vote in EU
elections anymore
L556[16:59:55] <Skye> so if you can vote,
pls vote
L557[17:00:29] <Amanda> not that I
understand the graphs. Is lower dB for Downstream Power good?
L558[17:00:32] <Skye> I have voted in
every election I was aware of and able to vote in so far
L559[17:00:51] <Skye> if you want a spicy
opinion
L560[17:00:55] <Amanda> The SNR's the
same
L561[17:01:06] <Amanda> ... ish
L562[17:01:27] <Skye> Single Transferrable
Vote is my preferred system
L563[17:02:21] <Inari> transferrable, as
in, I can sell it?
L564[17:02:40] <Skye> no
L565[17:02:43] <Inari> sad
L566[17:02:49] <Skye> as in you rank them
in order of preferred to least preferred
L567[17:02:51] <dequbed> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote
L568[17:03:00] <Inari> Makes sesne
L569[17:03:06] <Skye> if your preferred
doesn't have a chance of winning their vote goes to the next
one
L570[17:03:09] <Skye> and if they do
win
L571[17:03:15] <Inari> Why doesn't it work
that way
L572[17:03:17] <Skye> votes are...
cascaded in a way
L573[17:03:41] <Skye> and you vote for
individuals rather than parties
L574[17:03:53] <Skye> though those
individuals are members of parties
L575[17:04:03] <Skye> so you can either go
"eh I vote for <x> party"
L576[17:04:04] <Skye> or go
L577[17:04:23] <Skye> "I like
<y> and <z> of <x> party, but not <w>, I
prefer <v> over them"
L578[17:04:56] <Inari> Is there a name for
that issue? It's sorta the same thing as when theres tasks to
assign and you go through each task and ask who wants to do it.
Because you might want to do the 10th task, but by the time you're
there, others want that too and you get the short of it. But now
your second preference would've been the 2nd task, whihc is however
already assigned
L579[17:04:58] <dequbed> Inari: One of
many reasons: Game theory - which underlies most of these ideas -
is a rather new development.
L580[17:06:02] <Inari> dequbed: Is
it?
L581[17:06:19] <dequbed> As in - there is
a reasonable chance that a few democracies may just replace their
voting system with ones proven to be more representative of the
populance.
L582[17:06:31] <Inari> I don't do game
theory and it's sorta obvious that you'd rather have an order of
priorities than an all or nothing
L583[17:06:31] <Skye> single transferrable
vote is an OLD idea
L584[17:07:19] <Skye> "The concept of
transferable voting was first proposed by Thomas Wright Hill in
1819. The system remained unused in public elections until 1855,
when Carl Andræ proposed a transferable vote system for elections
in Denmark, and his system was used in 1856 to elect the Rigsraad
and from 1866 it was also adapted for indirect elections to the
second chamber, the Landsting, until 1915."
L585[17:07:36] <Skye> some guy thought of
it in 1819
L586[17:07:43] <Skye> no one listened to
him for decades
L587[17:08:25] <Skye> it has constantly
popped up in british politics
L588[17:08:31] <Skye> as people have tried
to get it implemented here and failed
L589[17:08:59] <dequbed> Inari: Well, if
you go to the beginnings of most western democracies, the US very
much excluded, "I would want to list alternatives" wasn't
all that much of a popular idea. It was assumed that people voted
based on class - and they in general did do so.
L590[17:09:20] <Inari> I mean
L591[17:09:27] <Inari> If so, they can
just pick no alternatives
L592[17:13:38] <dequbed> Inari: You're
barking up the wrong tree here. I'm all for voting reforms. Most of
our laws are based on historical whims and circumstances.
L593[17:14:50] *
Inari doesn't care and continues barking at dequbed, wagging her
fox tail angrily
L594[17:15:24] <Skye> awu?
L595[17:15:48] *
dequbed throws some tasty fox treats down at Inari
L596[17:16:35] *
Inari etas greedily
L597[17:16:47] <Amanda> D:
L598[17:16:57] <Amanda> Rude! She won't
give me lunch, but she'll steal some from dequbed!
L599[17:17:14] *
dequbed offers Amanda some cat treats
L600[17:17:26] *
Amanda noms happily
L601[17:17:32] <Amanda> You get to
live...this time.
L602[17:17:50] <dequbed> Amanda: Pff, as
if you'd kill me ;)
L603[17:17:50] *
Lizzy headpats Amanda and dequbed
L604[17:18:40] *
dequbed purrs
L605[17:18:44] *
Saphire licks dequbed
L606[17:19:01] <Saphire> Why kill when you
can eat them
L607[17:19:14] *
dequbed licks back
L608[17:19:28] <Saphire> Nuh
L609[17:19:33] *
Skye gives Saphire a cookie
L610[17:19:36] <dequbed> Saphire: Don't
get any funny ideas, I have aquired a taste for dragon steak
}:D
L611[17:19:42] *
Saphire pushes away the lick, eats cookie
L612[17:19:44] <Saphire> ...wait
what
L613[17:19:46] <Amanda> I wish I knew what
the hell keeps replacing ~/.config/mimeapps.list with a real file,
breaking my home-manager managing of it.
L614[17:19:59] <Saphire> Where did you
FIND one?
L615[17:20:03] <Skye> dequbed, didn't that
dragon maid make one with her tail in the anime?
L616[17:20:03] <dequbed> Amanda: Have you
tried auditd
L617[17:20:05] <Saphire> Amanda: uhhhh,
what the fuck
L618[17:20:33] <Amanda> dequbed: not that
I can think of?
L619[17:20:37] <Lizzy> Skye, Kobayashi's
Dragon Maid, yes
L620[17:20:50] <Amanda> Saphire:
mew?
L621[17:21:17] <dequbed> Amanda: auditd
can tell you which PID and program name opened which files, issued
what commands, etc. That would tell you exactly what program does
that.
L622[17:21:38] <Amanda> dequbed: oh?
sounds spammy though
L623[17:21:53] <dequbed> Amanda: I mean
yes but you can go filter for that file specifically
L624[17:24:28] <Saphire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ped4MouGzzs this is
still a nice song uwu
L625[17:24:28] <MichiBot> L-Train -
Paint The Moon Red (feat Koa, TheMusicReborn, Zephysonas &
General Mumble) [Electro Swing] | length: 3m 25s |
Likes: 4,780 Dislikes: 18 Views: 107,798 | by Ponies At
Dawn | Published On 4/10/2020
L626[17:24:52] <dequbed> Saphire: Also
where I found one is ... classified <.<
L627[17:25:53] <Amanda> dequbed: waitz is
auditd like an open source take on that datadog thing? I still
think it's crazy to essentially install a logging rootkit in your
kernel and ship the results out to a third party. I told them as
such when they tried to recruit me for something or other
L628[17:26:51] <dequbed> Amanda: Well it's
that but part of the upstream Linux kernel, and with access control
applied to reading the logs as well.
L629[17:27:04] *
Amanda nods
L630[17:27:28] <dequbed> And sending to a
third party is ... rather complicated with auditd.
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L638[17:54:43] <Amanda> %choose now or
later?
L639[17:54:43] <MichiBot> Amanda: The
proof is in the pudding. Definitely "later?". Now please
get it out of my pudding.
L640[17:54:55] <Amanda> Hrm... I
disagree.
L641[17:55:19] *
Amanda plops down in the middle of Inari's desk, between the
keyboard and the monitor, starts grooming herself
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L645[17:56:02] <Forecaster> how is that a challenge
<Forecaster> how is that a challengeL646[17:56:07] <bread™> i
have no idea
<bread™> i
have no ideaL647[17:58:21] <Amanda> It's not. It's
zoomer chain mail
L648[17:59:52] <dequbed> Oh god we're back
to chain mailing -.-
L649[17:59:59] <dequbed> Fitting that it's
on Discord though.
L650[18:02:52] <Amanda> Ah, to be young
and stupid again...
L652[18:05:53] <Inari> Amanda: Don't think
I was ever stupid enough for that kinda thing
L653[18:08:43] <Amanda> Inari: everyone
is, at least once
L654[18:13:50] *
Inari orders a few shirts of musou black
L655[18:17:59] <Michiyo>
Can do @ThePiGuy24
<Michiyo>
Can do @ThePiGuy24L656[18:18:07] <Michiyo>
Done.
<Michiyo>
Done.L657[18:18:10] <Michiyo>
:P
<Michiyo>
:PL658[18:18:14] <ThePiGuy24> f
<ThePiGuy24> fL659[18:18:25] <Michiyo>
<3 lol
<Michiyo>
<3 lolL660[18:18:41] <dequbed> Michiyo is much
nicer than I would have been :p
L661[18:19:38] <Ariri> wha happun
L662[18:20:11] <Amanda> I'm guessing she
deleted the post discord-side
L663[18:20:22] <Forecaster> yep
<Forecaster> yepL664[18:20:30] <Michiyo> ^
L665[18:21:32] <Ariri> Discord made it so
images can't be viewed once the original is deleted, so I don't
know what the context was
L666[18:21:41] <Ariri> (took long enough
tbh)
L667[18:22:16] <Amanda> Ariri: TPG
modified bread's shitty chain-mail to say "Delete this post
without reposting"
L668[18:22:20] <Michiyo> It was an edit of
the "Mario Challenge" with the bottom changed to Delete
this..
L669[18:22:20] <Michiyo> yes
L670[18:22:21] <Michiyo> that
L671[18:22:27] <ThePiGuy24> ^
<ThePiGuy24> ^L672[18:22:33] <Ariri> Haha, nice.
L673[18:23:08] <Ariri> That chain mail
thing is usually lame unless it's a funny picture, or just a meme
and not actually used as chain-mail
L674[18:23:46] <Ariri> Like 'post a
picture of this clown' and it's actually a comedic youtuber or
something
L675[18:23:55] <Forecaster> the issue I have with it is
it's not a challenge, it's a "do this simple task for no
reason"
<Forecaster> the issue I have with it is
it's not a challenge, it's a "do this simple task for no
reason"L676[18:24:22] <Forecaster> it's not funny or clever or
anything
<Forecaster> it's not funny or clever or
anythingL677[18:24:31] <Amanda> Take the Super
Mario challange, post the 16 digits on the front of your mom's
plastic card, and the 3 digit number on the back by her
signature!!1111oneoneone (Don't do either of those things. )
L678[18:24:40] <Ariri> The ones I've seen
don't usually use the word challenge, but in fairness, it's been a
common word for internet trends
L679[18:24:53] <Ariri> -like the Tide Pod
challenge.
L680[18:25:32] <Amanda> ah yes, the tide
pod challange, that was mostly isolated, until MSM covered it and
blew it out of proportion, increasing the peer pressure on the
idiot children who were doing it
L681[18:25:48] <Amanda> I hate my country.
:<
L682[18:25:52] <dequbed> ... who?
L683[18:25:55] <Ariri> (S)ame
L684[18:25:59] <Amanda> Main-stream
Media
L685[18:26:22] <Amanda> AKA Murdoch and
co
L686[18:26:51] <dequbed> Huh. This eat
bleach idea did pass me by rather unharmed. So I have no idea where
it came from or where it went ^^'
L687[18:27:11] <Ariri> I knew quite a few
people who went and did it, and more who nearly did; was a rather
cruel way of killing off kids and a perfectly adequate detergent
product
L688[18:27:27] <dequbed> Tide is
dead?
L689[18:27:42] <Michiyo> Nah
L690[18:27:43] <Amanda> Took massive stock
hit, IIRC
L691[18:27:51] <Ariri> I don't know about
the company Tide, but Tide Pods were pulled off the shelves in,
resulting in^
L692[18:28:07] <Amanda> They were moved
into locked cabinates in some stores
L693[18:28:11] <Ariri> %s/in,//
L694[18:28:11] <MichiBot> <Ariri> I
don't know about the company Tide, but Tide Pods were pulled off
the shelves resulting in^
L695[18:28:25] <dequbed> Amanda:
Neat
L696[18:28:32] <Ariri> I don't think I've
seen them since
L697[18:28:46] *
Michiyo checks the laundry room
L698[18:28:47] <Ariri> Sort of a repressed
memory at this point though
L699[18:28:48] <Amanda> We (my family)
still buy them, so I assum ethey're somewhere
L700[18:28:56] <Michiyo> Yep still getting
Tide pods.
L701[18:29:10] <Michiyo> Off the shelf,
with no keys involved.
L702[18:29:46] <Ariri> Probably just me
being forgetful then, or they lost their share of sales in my area
and weren't really restocked
L703[18:30:28] <Amanda> But yeah, there
was a very very small number of kids doing it, until the media
painted it as "Look at this stupid thiing everybody's kids are
doing!" and then suddenly the number of calls to Poison
Control about it skyrocketed.
L704[18:31:07] <Ariri> %blame exaggerated
media
L705[18:31:07] *
MichiBot blames exaggerated media for E.T for Atari being
terrible!
L706[18:33:26] <dequbed> Amanda: So bit
like the ice bucket challenge but instead of using a few liters of
water people tried to poison themselves? I remember a *lot* of
people being pissed at the "water wastage" of that
one.
L707[18:34:41] <Inari> In C#, whats the
msot confusing, yet concise way to write `true` or `false`
L708[18:34:50] <Inari> Tried something
like !!0 but that doesn't work in C#
L709[18:35:22] <dequbed> Inari: enum Bool
{ True = false, False = true }; `False` or `True`
L710[18:36:51] <Inari> Hmm
L711[18:36:54] <Inari> That required a
setup though
L712[18:37:18] <dequbed> Hm. not not not
not not not NaN == NaN?
L713[18:37:37] <dequbed> especially if you
can have a var that's NaN and define somewhere else.
L714[18:38:03] <Amanda> "I" ==
"l"
L715[18:38:10] <Forecaster> 1 == 0 and 1 == 1
<Forecaster> 1 == 0 and 1 == 1L716[18:38:11] <Forecaster> :D
<Forecaster> :DL717[18:38:19] <Inari> Can't not on
NaN
L718[18:38:34] <dequbed> Inari but can you
not on (NaN == NaN)?
L719[18:38:37] <Amanda> you're not-ing on
the comparison, not NaN
L720[18:38:40] <ThePiGuy24> cant you just use 0 or 1 and
hope it interprets it as a bool?
<ThePiGuy24> cant you just use 0 or 1 and
hope it interprets it as a bool?L721[18:38:44] <Inari> @Forecaster is that
some unicode thing?
L722[18:39:14] <Forecaster> pretty sure ones and zeroes
aren't unicode
<Forecaster> pretty sure ones and zeroes
aren't unicodeL723[18:39:26] <Inari> Amanda: not without
parentehsis
L724[18:39:32] <dequbed> Oh oh oh unicode!
հ = h
L725[18:39:38] <dequbed> s/=/==/g
L726[18:39:39] <MichiBot> <dequbed>
Oh oh oh unicode! հ == h
L727[18:39:48] <ThePiGuy24> ascii is just unextended
unicode
<ThePiGuy24> ascii is just unextended
unicodeL728[18:40:07] <Michiyo> unicode is just
extended ascii
L729[18:40:21] <dequbed> Inari: For more
fun: https://util.unicode.org/UnicodeJsps/confusables.jsp
L730[18:40:42] <Forecaster> text is just runes
<Forecaster> text is just runesL731[18:41:10] <ThePiGuy24> runes are just hallucinagenic
squiggles
<ThePiGuy24> runes are just hallucinagenic
squigglesL732[18:41:11] <Michiyo> Runes are just
physical representations of thought
L733[18:41:24] <Michiyo> lol..
L734[18:43:04] <Inari
「オ兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> Hmm
<Inari
「オ兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> HmmL735[18:43:07] <Inari
「オ兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> Still seems too innocent
<Inari
「オ兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> Still seems too innocentL736[18:43:08] <Inari
「オ兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> `if ("myBad" == "myBаd") ;
else ; { return; }`
<Inari
「オ兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> `if ("myBad" == "myBаd") ;
else ; { return; }`L737[18:43:56] <Wattana>
All finished around 1:40AM. 30% of dev time goes into actual
productive work and the other 70% goes into procrastination
https://tinyurl.com/yx95aoy7
<Wattana>
All finished around 1:40AM. 30% of dev time goes into actual
productive work and the other 70% goes into procrastination
https://tinyurl.com/yx95aoy7L738[18:44:41] <Wattana>
Im starting to feel the effect of sleep deprivation 😊
<Wattana>
Im starting to feel the effect of sleep deprivation 😊L739[18:44:49] <Wattana>
wait wrong emoji
<Wattana>
wait wrong emojiL740[18:45:11] <Amanda> I need to figure
out why Quassel's not showing coloured emoji on my laptop
L741[18:45:25] <Amanda> They all look the
same at 10pt font
L742[18:45:30] *
Inari stamps coloured emoji onto Amanda's fur
L743[18:45:34] <ThePiGuy24> :p2cecbtthemadman:
<ThePiGuy24> :p2cecbtthemadman:L744[18:45:36] <Amanda> %bite Inari
L745[18:45:36] <MichiBot> Amanda is
trying to bite Inari! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt
to %defend against it!
L746[18:45:41] <Inari> D:
L747[18:45:44] <Inari> %dodge
L748[18:45:44] <MichiBot> Inari
successfully dodged Amanda. With a 19 vs 12 Inari avoided all of
the damage!
L749[18:45:49] <Inari> Tehehe
L750[18:45:51] <Amanda> %claw Inari
L751[18:45:54] <Amanda> damn
L752[18:46:03] <Michiyo> womp womp
L753[18:46:13] <Inari> I need a way to
roll on custom things
L754[18:46:36] <Wattana>
Rare footage of unknown specie of bird brawling with a fox
<Wattana>
Rare footage of unknown specie of bird brawling with a foxL755[18:46:41] <Wattana>
*Rare footage of unknown species of bird brawling with a fox*
[Edited]
<Wattana>
*Rare footage of unknown species of bird brawling with a fox*
[Edited]L756[18:46:58] <Inari> very rare species
of a bird
L757[18:47:04] <Amanda> Anyway, font
ligitures had some fun with dequbed's sed above https://nc.ddna.co/s/MTkdkHKo3MAtSZk
L758[18:47:33] <Wattana>
ight ima go sleep now before my IQ temporarily dip
<Wattana>
ight ima go sleep now before my IQ temporarily dipL759[18:47:46] <dequbed> Amanda: It
appears your font doesn't like Հ
L760[18:52:25] <Amanda> ... I should set a
nice value for nextcloud-client, it seems
L761[18:55:58] <Michiyo> 4.67
L762[18:56:01] <Michiyo> a nice
value.
L763[18:58:52] <Forecaster> you're a nice value!
<Forecaster> you're a nice value!L764[19:07:59] <Michiyo> Awww, thanks
*blush*
L765[19:09:10] <Inari> Isn't nice value
liek good value
L766[19:09:14] <Inari> i.e. not the best,
but good for the price
L767[19:21:56] <Ariri>
9units per unit cubed
<Ariri>
9units per unit cubedL768[19:27:29] <Michiyo> So, turns out
Quassel just doesn't have scripting support. So I'm going to have
to modify it to add bridge support
L769[19:27:29] <Michiyo> so
L770[19:27:30] <Michiyo> no
L771[19:27:35] <Michiyo> Gonna hard pass
on that one
L772[19:30:59] <Forecaster> I recall someone else
complaining about that as well
<Forecaster> I recall someone else
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L774[19:44:50] <Amanda> gamax has/had a
patch that did it on the core-side, but I forget the link
L775[19:45:41] <Amanda> Anyway, I have no
idea what this means, but I assume it's good: https://nc.ddna.co/s/QWQ9pGxtD2rKzcR
L776[19:48:06] <Michiyo> You were slightly
above spec before, you're well within specn ow
L777[19:48:11] <Michiyo> -7 to 7 is
good
L778[19:48:42] <Michiyo> upstream looks to
be about the same, I would have expected it to drop when removing
upstream splitters, but... meh
L779[19:49:44] <Michiyo> 40 dB SNR is
rough though...
L780[19:50:04] <Michiyo> most of your
channels are above the low 30s
L781[19:50:12] <Michiyo> err mid
L782[19:50:39] <Michiyo> But other than
your SNR being a bit high, it looks good
L783[19:52:23] <dequbed> Can a SNR even be
too high? :p
L784[19:53:52] <Michiyo> Yes and
no..
L785[19:54:05] <Michiyo> >33 is good.
but I've had too high cause clipping
L786[19:54:15] <Michiyo> and I've ran into
that in the mid 40s
L787[19:54:37] <Michiyo> I actually had to
put splitters IN my line to get my connection stable
L788[19:54:58] <Amanda> wow
L789[19:56:16] <Michiyo> Yeah, that was a
fun one.
L790[19:57:15] <Michiyo> Maybe it was just
my modem being pissy, but we did try 2 of the same model (It's all
the ISP carried and I didn't want to buy one at the time)
L791[19:57:17] <Michiyo> with the same
results
L792[19:58:01] <Amanda> I bought one
out-right, rather than pay more than it's worth over time
L793[19:58:28] <Amanda> when it started to
die, I shut the support person right down on trying to get us to
rent one, and just said "Thank you I'll go buy a new one
then"
L794[20:01:55] *
Inari wonders what happens if she ups Amanda's SNR
L795[20:02:43] <Amanda> %claw Inari
L796[20:02:43] <MichiBot> Amanda is
trying to claw Inari! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt
to %defend against it!
L797[20:02:48] <Inari> Hey D:
L798[20:02:50] <Inari> %dodge
L799[20:02:50] <MichiBot> Inari managed to
partially dodge Amanda. With a 16 vs 12 Inari only takes half of
the 2 damage.
L800[20:05:55] <Ariri> I wonder if getting
a RX580 makes sense when I have a r5 2400G with virtually 16gb of
vram already...
L801[20:07:54] <Z0idberg>
I have 16 MB
<Z0idberg>
I have 16 MBL802[20:09:10] <bad at
vijya> i have 4mb
<bad at
vijya> i have 4mbL804[20:12:40] <bad at
vijya> i will whip my ps2 out in a bit
<bad at
vijya> i will whip my ps2 out in a bitL805[20:13:44] <Michiyo> Buying a cable
modem would have been pointless renting it was like $4 a month, and
we were going to be using it for like 6 months
L806[20:14:41] <Michiyo> cheapest decent
modem I could get my hands on was ~$80, rent was $24
L807[20:16:07] <Ariri> Going to shut down
the server to switch my fans to PWM, bbl
L808[20:16:15] <Michiyo> o/
L809[20:16:40] <dequbed> Ariri: GLHF
L810[20:17:24] <Z0idberg>
@Michiyo You have seen the eyes on my friend who has rented his
modem for YEARS. They did the math and it was over $700
<Z0idberg>
@Michiyo You have seen the eyes on my friend who has rented his
modem for YEARS. They did the math and it was over $700L811[20:17:29] <Ariri> arigato
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L813[20:17:41] <Michiyo> oouch
L814[20:18:14] <Michiyo> Yeah, never rent
the modem if you're going to use the server for more than like 12
months
L815[20:18:18] <Michiyo> service*
L816[20:18:52] <Z0idberg>
I have no choice with my DSL service
<Z0idberg>
I have no choice with my DSL serviceL817[20:18:53] <Amanda> Michiyo: ah yeah,
we've been with comcrap for internet since I turned 18
L818[20:18:57] <Z0idberg>
but I did go in and disable DHCP and wifi and everything and put it
into bridged mode
<Z0idberg>
but I did go in and disable DHCP and wifi and everything and put it
into bridged modeL819[20:19:04] <Z0idberg>
moved the PPPoE auth onto my Mikrotik
<Z0idberg>
moved the PPPoE auth onto my MikrotikL820[20:19:23] <Z0idberg>
so I basically pay monthly for a brick that does nothing but
modem
<Z0idberg>
so I basically pay monthly for a brick that does nothing but
modemL821[20:19:28] <Michiyo> We're
"renting" our fiber "modem"
L822[20:19:30] <Michiyo> but it's
free.
L823[20:19:32] <Michiyo> so meh :P
L824[20:19:37] <Z0idberg>
ONT?
<Z0idberg>
ONT?L825[20:19:40] <Michiyo> Yeah
L826[20:19:50] <Z0idberg>
if its GPON GPON is cool
<Z0idberg>
if its GPON GPON is coolL827[20:19:58] <Michiyo> We got them to
discount the rental fee lol
L828[20:20:04] <Z0idberg>
we do GPON where I work for our customers
<Z0idberg>
we do GPON where I work for our customersL829[20:20:12] <Michiyo> so every month
it's like +6 rental -6 discount
L830[20:21:13] <Michiyo> I've not actually
ever seen our fiber equipment. the entry point is in my roommates
closet, and I was @ work when the install happened
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L833[20:52:41] <Amanda> %choose talky
waves or dancing waves or irradiate
L834[20:52:41] <MichiBot> Amanda: Is it a
bird?! Is it a plane?! No! It's "irradiate"!
L835[20:53:03] <Amanda> %choose irradiate
or halucinate
L836[20:53:03] <MichiBot> Amanda: Haven't
you always gone with "irradiate"? Hm, maybe not.
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L840[21:41:09] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L841[21:41:09] <MichiBot> Zoinks!
CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 6 hours,
40 minutes and 47 seconds (By 26 minutes and 1 second)! I hope
you're happy!
L842[21:41:10] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 7 hours, 6 minutes and 48 seconds! CompanionCube also
gained 0.00301 (0.00043 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #2. Need 0.1405538 more points to pass Forecaster!
L843[21:41:46] <Amanda> I love this, an
elderly politician who starred in a police procedual. https://nc.ddna.co/s/tkR9dfybCPyrx4K
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L845[22:00:48] <Amanda> loool I love this,
an elderly politician who starred in a police procedual. https://nc.ddna.co/s/tkR9dfybCPyrx4K
L846[22:00:49] <Amanda> er
L847[22:00:56] <Amanda> loool https://nc.ddna.co/s/2kcq7PKq26pawNJ
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L849[22:03:55] ***
finch is now known as Ariri
L850[22:04:13] <Ariri> Yo yo yo
L851[22:04:30] <Forecaster> %splash Ariri
<Forecaster> %splash AririL852[22:04:30] <MichiBot> Forecaster
flings a gloopy naqahdah potion (New!) that splashes onto Ariri. 3
nearby pebbles suddenly shift slightly in Ariri's direction.
L853[22:05:09] <Ariri> %splash
Forecaster
L854[22:05:09] <MichiBot> Ariri flings a
seeping tiberium potion (New!) that splashes onto Forecaster.
Forecaster's favourite hat is suddenly fire.
L855[22:06:12] <Forecaster> D:
<Forecaster> D:L856[22:19:23] <Ariri> Uh... https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/WD8xWYaoyP536jg/preview
L857[22:19:28] <Ariri> sh*t
L858[22:19:56] <Ariri> did I accidentally
swap a sata cable?...
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L866[23:53:13] <Izaya> Elfi: https://shigusegubu.club/media/725ec23ce83fc960d2ad967222c1caec04439229f194ce3747ed824b6397a3f0.gif
L867[23:54:52] <ThePiGuy24> me when a game is released
exclusively on epic games store
<ThePiGuy24> me when a game is released
exclusively on epic games storeL868[23:55:04] <Izaya> so you mean not
released
L869[23:55:20] <ThePiGuy24> yes
<ThePiGuy24> yesL870[23:58:49] <Bob> Wait,
isnt everything on the internet free 🤔
<Bob> Wait,
isnt everything on the internet free 🤔