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L1[00:21:20] <Kristo​pher38> it says that the changes are reverted after a restart
L2[00:21:46] <Kristo​pher38> so maybe an utility to inject the changes at every boot?
L3[00:55:25] <Amanda> I mean
L4[00:55:50] <Amanda> The microcode is loaded every boot by the kernel is it not?
L5[00:56:10] <Amanda> Just a big ol binary blob
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L8[00:59:23] <Kristo​pher38> is it?
L9[00:59:32] <Kristo​pher38> I honestly don't know
L10[01:01:18] <Kristo​pher38> I would imagine microcode just stays in some kind of cpu's internal eeprom and it's loaded at boot by the cpu itself but with modern complexity I guess it could be loaded by some little internal cpu like Intel ME
L11[01:02:00] <CompanionCube> Amanda: well, not only the kernel
L12[01:02:25] <CompanionCube> also firmware and whatever microcode it was shipped with
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L16[01:44:32] <Izaya> > Can you even 'root' a CPU? It's not like *nix is embedded into Intel chips...
L17[01:44:45] <Izaya> I hope that was sarcasm
L18[01:46:14] <Amanda> Intel did have am atom cpu with a microkernel sideprocessor
L19[01:46:36] <Izaya> Current Intel ME runs Minix, no?
L20[01:46:47] <Amanda> One of their iot things, you could make the side cpu do some simple logic, then sleep the main cpu
L21[01:47:03] <Amanda> Use it as a programmable jntwrrupt
L22[01:47:24] * Amanda yawns a big toothy yawn
L23[01:47:36] <Izaya> That's kinda neat
L24[01:48:15] * Amanda tucks in around Elfi, zzmews. -- tomorrow she gets to get started on her we:l team of women haxorz
L25[01:49:46] <Amanda> I can't wait for someone to make a video of them recruiting, then permadearh-killing every person in London
L26[01:50:40] <Amanda> Anyways
L27[01:50:43] <Amanda> Night nerds
L28[01:50:47] <dequbed> Izaya: Yeah at least the Atom chips ran something vague Minix-based.
L29[01:51:17] <dequbed> But Last I checked(TM) Minix does not have true user accounts so you can't exactly "root" it, you can only get kernel mode.
L30[01:52:22] <Izaya> Ah. Right on a technicality then. Carry on :D
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L32[02:08:34] <grantlmul> having a blast trying to see if i can get ocvm working on windows
L33[02:09:17] <grantlmul> a lot of this is just `#ifdef windows` so far
L34[02:15:12] <Izaya> You're gonna have a bad time once you get it running, you'll need external software to get a VT100 compatible terminal
L35[02:16:30] <grantlmul> as far as i can tell the operating system handles vt100 stuff
L36[02:24:13] <bad at​ vijya> yea
L37[02:24:17] <bad at​ vijya> w10 does that now
L38[02:25:00] <grantlmul> i was meaning like openos
L39[02:44:52] <Michiyo> ugh... I need to convert abgr hex to rgb triplets
L40[02:44:55] <Michiyo> in php <_<
L41[02:48:27] <grantlmul> phpee
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L44[03:44:47] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L45[03:44:48] <MichiBot> Yippee! Forec​aster! You beat Swa​llow's previous record of 26 minutes and 8 seconds (By 5 hours, 36 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L46[03:44:49] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours and 3 minutes! Forecaster also gained 0.00561 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.0797162 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
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L52[04:58:00] <Izaya> ocvm uses VT100 to display the OC GPU, upon which OpenOS' VT100 implementation rests
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L64[07:38:40] <Forec​aster> okay... time to try to implement a copy of the floppy disk item...
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L66[07:50:31] <Forec​aster> hrm, maybe it'd be easier to use the card reader from OpenSec instead...
L67[07:50:48] <Forec​aster> though I have about as good of an idea how to do that as the floppy thing which is 0%
L68[08:11:35] <Forec​aster> hm... actually, I probably want to use memory cards instead
L69[08:11:52] <Forec​aster> I don't need nor want a filesystem behind them
L70[08:12:03] <Forec​aster> nbt data is more than sufficient
L71[08:12:58] <Forec​aster> so a copy of an eeprom basically, but with a custom name and texture
L72[08:13:02] <Forec​aster> is what I want
L73[08:22:42] <Forec​aster> also, what the heck is happening in here... https://tinyurl.com/y5n43tpf
L74[08:23:49] <Forec​aster> ...
L75[08:23:51] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y6sjc5jf
L76[08:23:53] <Forec​aster> kay
L77[08:28:01] <Forec​aster> thank goodness for recover I guess
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L79[08:34:01] <Forec​aster> oh, hm
L80[08:34:14] <Forec​aster> how would one dynamically read eeproms though
L81[08:34:26] <Forec​aster> a transposer can't access a computer cases inventory
L82[08:35:18] <Forec​aster> maybe it'd be easier to just implement my own system, and then make a reader/writer block that talks to OC
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L85[08:49:37] <Bri​anH> CompanionCube: I feel like thats not something you would want to create an article about
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L89[09:08:52] <Forec​aster> I should just be able to copy the mag card stuff, but I need it to go into a slot into the reader/writer so it can be automated...
L90[09:08:57] <Forec​aster> that's gonna be the tricky part
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L92[09:31:29] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L93[09:31:30] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Compan​ionCube, you were not able to beat Forec​aster's record of 6 hours and 3 minutes this time. 5 hours, 46 minutes and 42 seconds were wasted! Missed by 16 minutes and 17 seconds!
L94[09:31:35] <CompanionCube> oot
L95[09:34:27] <bre​ad™> oot indeed
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L101[11:49:44] <Amanda> %remindme 3h10m oh hey, observe puppers time
L102[11:49:44] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "oh hey, observe puppers time" at 10/29/2020 02:59:44 PM
L103[12:01:48] <Forec​aster> but that's illegal!
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L113[13:20:51] <bre​ad™> why tf wont ctrl+b p/n work in tmux? everything else works
L114[13:23:03] <Amanda> Does your tmux config unbind them?
L115[13:23:14] <bre​ad™> lemme check
L116[13:24:07] <bre​ad™> wow, i didnt know this was in my config https://tinyurl.com/yxhorgmu
L117[13:25:09] <bre​ad™> hm
L118[13:32:58] <bre​ad™> still isnt working 🤔
L119[13:33:47] <bre​ad™> right when i said that it started working
L120[13:33:51] <bre​ad™> thankks tmux very cool
L121[13:36:45] <bre​ad™> i wonder why this happens https://tinyurl.com/y24e6kce
L122[13:37:01] <Forec​aster> cause there is no database, duh
L123[13:37:04] <Forec​aster> I ate it
L124[13:37:36] <bre​ad™> this only happens in tmux and TTY
L125[13:44:59] <Amanda> probably your PATH is getting set in the wrong place, or similar.
L126[13:46:55] <Amanda> mmmm nutritional paste.
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L129[14:54:27] <Inari> %pet Amanda
L130[14:54:28] <MichiBot> Inari is petting Amanda with Forecaster's protip for life. Amanda regains 1d4 => 2 hit points! Now you see Forecaster's protip for life, now you don't!
L131[14:59:45] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: oh hey, observe puppers time
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L133[15:01:39] <Forec​aster> %sip
L134[15:01:41] <MichiBot> You drink a boiling coralcreep potion (New!). 2 nearby pebbles suddenly shift slightly in Forecaster's direction.
L135[15:25:42] <Inari> Interesting
L136[15:25:52] <Inari> Apparently theres not that few VTubers with female avatars, but male voices
L137[15:47:26] <Michiyo> @Forec​aster whatcha doing? I got pinged on "OpenSec" lol
L138[15:47:45] <Amanda> He's creating a mod for defining custom time units called seconds.
L139[15:49:10] <Michiyo> :P
L140[15:49:40] <Forec​aster> Michiyo I want to create a data storage item (like an eeprom) that has a writer/reader with an inventory that can be automated
L141[15:49:54] <Forec​aster> also %tonkout
L142[15:49:54] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 6 hours and 3 minutes (By 15 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L143[15:49:55] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.01 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 1.43041372, Position #2 Need 0.0637162 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L144[15:50:23] <ben_mkiv> the thing from OpenSecurity can be automated
L145[15:50:31] <Forec​aster> which thing?
L146[15:50:39] <ben_mkiv> the thing that can write eeproms
L147[15:50:42] <ben_mkiv> card writer iirc
L148[15:50:48] <Forec​aster> I also need read
L149[15:50:53] <ben_mkiv> it can, too
L150[15:51:05] <Forec​aster> I didn't see a read method
L151[15:51:25] <ben_mkiv> oh wait
L152[15:51:27] <ben_mkiv> maybe it cant
L153[15:51:27] <Forec​aster> lemme check again
L154[15:51:37] <Michiyo> the writer? No, but adding read would be easy
L155[15:52:04] <Forec​aster> well, I also want the items to look like crates :P
L156[15:52:12] <Amanda> datapack!
L157[15:52:19] <ben_mkiv> well yea it cant read apparently
L158[15:52:22] <Michiyo> can even rename them there!
L159[15:52:29] <ben_mkiv> but as said, that wont be a big deal
L160[15:52:49] <ben_mkiv> michiyo will love to setup idea/eclipse to make you a custom build
L161[15:52:55] <ben_mkiv> i can see the glare in her eyes
L162[15:52:57] <bad at​ vijya> https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/10/chevrolet-readies-an-electric-crate-motor-for-homebuilt-ev-hotrods/
L163[15:53:01] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/y3c6xcy6
L164[15:53:02] <Forec​aster> that would simplify things a lot for me :P
L165[15:53:22] <bad at​ vijya> S10 EV but good time
L166[15:53:33] <Forec​aster> I mean, I'll add it to my own mod if I have to, I just have to figure out tile entities, inventories, guis and OC's api
L167[15:54:15] <Mic​hiyo> @Forecaster i can do it later today. Ill need to resetup the project on jenkins and my workspace
L168[15:54:25] <ben_mkiv> i'm a little bit surprised that no one before asked for read methods
L169[15:54:43] <Forec​aster> I started picking classes out of OpenSec earlier, but I didn't understand any of it, so I was going to go the tutorial route instead
L170[15:55:03] <Forec​aster> but just adding a custom eeprom item with a texture would be a lot simpler
L171[15:55:08] <Forec​aster> possibly
L172[15:55:10] <Mic​hiyo> 1.12?
L173[15:55:13] <Forec​aster> yeah
L174[15:55:19] <Mic​hiyo> Kk
L175[15:55:31] <Forec​aster> this is for the MinecraftTycoon server thing
L176[15:55:42] <Amanda> PpenMCT
L177[15:55:47] <Amanda> OpenMCT*
L178[15:56:15] <Amanda> %choose launch MC while waiting for pupper cameras to install again?
L179[15:56:16] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Oh, I've heard about that. You'll want to wait until tomorrow.
L180[15:56:38] <Amanda> I hope it doesn't take until tomorrow to finish installing the pupper observation deck!
L181[15:56:42] <ben_mkiv> well, basically the read stuff is already there, it's just in the card/rfid reader
L182[15:56:43] <Forec​aster> instead of using inert items to move around and pay out static amounts I want to use a data storage device I can stamp with location data so I can adjust the payout based on distance
L183[15:56:50] <ben_mkiv> so it only has to be "copied" to the card writer
L184[15:56:55] <Forec​aster> oh
L185[15:56:57] <Forec​aster> hm
L186[15:57:18] <Forec​aster> I might need to encrypt the data in some way...
L187[15:57:33] <ben_mkiv> maybe some little tweaks as rfid/magcards have lower capacity iirc
L188[15:57:33] <Amanda> ( EGS is a fuck and confusing, but apparently the Activation Key UPlay wanted was available in uplay itself. why the fuck uplay didn't populate itself with that, who knows. )
L189[15:57:36] <Forec​aster> so users can't read the data, then adjust it and trick the factories
L190[15:58:03] <Mic​hiyo> El Goonish Shive?
L191[15:58:07] <Mic​hiyo> :p
L192[15:58:16] <Amanda> unfortunately not, Epic Games Store
L193[15:58:39] <Mic​hiyo> Ahh yes... the worse EGS
L194[15:58:41] <Amanda> I should catch up on that EGS though, I've fallen out of it
L195[15:58:42] <ben_mkiv> either encrypt them, or create a hash that you store locally
L196[15:58:50] <ben_mkiv> for a hash a mag card would probably be sufficient
L197[15:58:50] <Mic​hiyo> Same
L198[15:59:03] <Forec​aster> EGS has evolved a lot since the early days
L199[15:59:07] <Forec​aster> to say the least
L200[15:59:14] <Mic​hiyo> Yes.. yes it has
L201[15:59:25] <dequbed> Amanda: For a moment I was like "Why are you bringing in NASA mission control into this" then I realized you made a pun :p
L202[15:59:44] <Amanda> dequbed: I made a pun?
L203[16:00:11] <Forec​aster> ben_mkiv I need the receiving factory to be able to derive the coordinates of the factory the item came from to be able to calculate a distance
L204[16:00:35] <dequbed> Amanda: OpenMCT is a/the mission control software by NASA. https://nasa.github.io/openmct/ We've used it for a ... few things.
L205[16:00:46] <Amanda> oh, huh
L206[16:01:15] <dequbed> https://openmct-demo.herokuapp.com has some pretty demo thingies
L207[16:03:51] <Amanda> I'll be honest. I'm still not entirely clear on what a pun is. Growing up I'd ask in an IRC channel I was in, and all would happen was the channel would devolve into what I assume are puns, and me getting angry at the lack of an answer
L208[16:04:55] <Amanda> s/I assume/I (now) assume/
L209[16:04:55] <MichiBot> <Amanda> I'll be honest. I'm still not entirely clear on what a pun is. Growing up I'd ask in an IRC channel I was in, and all would happen was the channel would devolve into what I (now) assume are puns, and me getting angry at the lack of an answer
L210[16:05:00] <Izaya> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=sifive-riscv-unmatched&num=1
L211[16:05:08] <Forec​aster> I think they're calling you replying OpenMCT to my MinecraftTycoon a pun, which I'm not sure it qualifies as
L212[16:05:46] <ben_mkiv> whole life is a pun
L213[16:05:58] <ben_mkiv> %sip
L214[16:05:59] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly cerulium potion (New!). When ben_mkiv drinks the last drop, a bucket of water materializes above their head and dumps its contents over them. They successfully evaded it with a 10 vs DC 8!
L215[16:06:30] <ben_mkiv> yea i could take a shower actually
L216[16:06:59] <Forec​aster> I also would have liked to be able to set a texture using the item data depending on the goods type (determined by the factory)
L217[16:07:05] <ben_mkiv> and go shopping and take another shower because its fucking raining the whole day
L218[16:07:12] <ben_mkiv> -swearword
L219[16:07:36] <ben_mkiv> @forecaster that sounds like a neat idea
L220[16:07:44] <ben_mkiv> you define an item and it gets rendered on the card
L221[16:07:57] <ben_mkiv> michiyo add that :P
L222[16:08:07] <Forec​aster> and with a custom item I could also possibly make it so it can be made readonly, but once it is it's stuck that way
L223[16:08:23] <Amanda> oh good. UPLay still wants a CD Key, and if I insert the key uplay gives me.. it says it's already redeemed. WHY WON'T YOU LAUNCH THE FUCKING GAME THEN!?
L224[16:08:34] <ben_mkiv> mag cards have write protection iirc
L225[16:08:34] <Forec​aster> wait, eeproms can't be readonly
L226[16:08:36] <Amanda> Point UPlay at the EGS install of the game... "Failed to validate"
L227[16:08:38] <Forec​aster> that's a floppy thing
L228[16:08:46] <Amanda> They can, @Forecaster
L229[16:08:51] <Amanda> maybe not fromthe card writer though
L230[16:09:34] <Amanda> guess I'll just install WD:L through uplay then
L231[16:09:34] <ben_mkiv> and add an eprom for forecaster
L232[16:10:19] <ben_mkiv> which reminds me of one of my first jobs where i had to scratch labels from eproms and expose them to uv light to erase them
L233[16:10:29] <ben_mkiv> these where the days kids...
L234[16:11:12] <Izaya> tfw you don't have a proper eraser so you just un-sticker them and put them in the sun for a few hours
L235[16:11:28] <Forec​aster> well, if I can't manage those things I can deal with people having to ship memory cards around, but I'd like to keep it thematic if possible
L236[16:11:55] <dequbed> Izaya: Oh reminds me, wanna know a fun thing about Mission Control Software?
L237[16:12:04] <Izaya> shoot
L238[16:12:05] <Michiyo> @Forec​aster Can you write up what all you need a nd I'll see what I can do?
L239[16:12:22] <Amanda> 1) a pony 2) 5.6billion dollars
L240[16:12:33] <ben_mkiv> s/a nd i'll see what i/and i will tell ben/
L241[16:12:36] <Michiyo> No, and I'm keeping it if I get it
L242[16:12:42] <ben_mkiv> whatever
L243[16:12:52] <dequbed> Izaya: So ESA has this software called ECLIPSE. Which has nothing to do with the other Eclipse software. Except it's in Java.
L244[16:13:02] <Michiyo> s\whatever\I used the wrong slashes\
L245[16:13:06] <Michiyo> Orrr not
L246[16:13:11] <Michiyo> @FORECASTER
L247[16:13:16] <Michiyo> YOU BROKE SED!
L248[16:13:16] <Michiyo> lol
L249[16:13:25] <ben_mkiv> %s/a nd i'll see what i can/and i will tell ben has to/
L250[16:13:26] <Michiyo> test
L251[16:13:29] <Forec​aster> I did?
L252[16:13:35] <Michiyo> s/test/test2/
L253[16:13:36] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> test2
L254[16:13:36] <dequbed> It consists of several modules, e.g. JAIL, AIM and PAM. Which have absolutely nothing to do with what they sound like, JAIL is LDAP authentication, AIM is action management and PAM is project administration module.
L255[16:13:37] <Michiyo> Nah
L256[16:13:42] <ben_mkiv> s/a nd i'll see what i can/and i will tell ben has to
L257[16:13:44] <Michiyo> Nah, turns out ben is bad at stuff
L258[16:13:53] <Forec​aster> Need: the card writer to also read
L259[16:13:55] <ben_mkiv> nah i bet it cant handle the ` :P
L260[16:14:00] <ben_mkiv> s/a nd i\'ll see what i can/and i will tell ben has to
L261[16:14:04] <Michiyo> test's
L262[16:14:09] <Michiyo> s/test's/tested/
L263[16:14:09] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> tested
L264[16:14:12] <Michiyo> nah
L265[16:14:13] <Forec​aster> Want: custom texture based on data, permanent readonly, encryption
L266[16:14:13] <ThePi​Guy24> smh just run the command into sed and dont do any sanitisation like normal people do
L267[16:14:13] <ben_mkiv> uhm
L268[16:14:17] <Michiyo> you're just bad at stuff
L269[16:14:25] <ben_mkiv> s/a nd i\'ll see what I can/and i will tell ben has to
L270[16:14:29] <ben_mkiv> s/a nd i'll see what I can/and i will tell ben has to
L271[16:14:32] <ben_mkiv> sry for spam :P
L272[16:14:32] <Izaya> dequbed: are these names chosen to be misleading?
L273[16:14:35] <ben_mkiv> is it case sensitive?
L274[16:14:54] <Forec​aster> yes, unless you /i
L275[16:14:55] <Michiyo> by default, yes? I think
L276[16:15:01] <ben_mkiv> s/a nd I'll see what I can/and i will tell ben has to
L277[16:15:02] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> @Forec​aster Can you write up what all you need and i will tell ben has to do?
L278[16:15:02] <Michiyo> /i for case insensitive
L279[16:15:05] <ben_mkiv> oh
L280[16:15:23] <ben_mkiv> yea then im bad at this
L281[16:15:35] <dequbed> Izaya: You tell me. The company is called Sapienza which is Italian. It's based in the UK and has no Italian Office, staff members or founders.
L282[16:15:53] <Michiyo> Do you need an extra item, or would a mag card work in this case if you could set an icon/name?
L283[16:16:11] <Michiyo> and they already have "locked" which means you can't modify them if set
L284[16:16:15] <ben_mkiv> michiyo dont get into item rendering if you dont want to spend days on it
L285[16:16:29] <ThePi​Guy24> %s/*/f/gi
L286[16:16:30] <MichiBot> Corded: Invalid regex *
L287[16:16:37] <ThePi​Guy24> no u
L288[16:16:43] <Izaya> s/.*/f/gi
L289[16:16:43] <MichiBot> <ThePiGuy24> ff
L290[16:16:51] <ben_mkiv> no %
L291[16:16:57] <Michiyo> % works
L292[16:16:58] <dequbed> Oh it turns out the company has since then been sold/rebranded/whatever. So now they are based in Holland
L293[16:16:59] <Forec​aster> well, mag card would work with custom texture
L294[16:17:10] <Michiyo> % is for discord use, but works with irc too
L295[16:17:20] <ben_mkiv> oh
L296[16:17:28] <ben_mkiv> %s/no u/sry for my mistake michibot
L297[16:17:28] <MichiBot> <ThePiGuy24> sry for my mistake michibot
L298[16:17:39] <Forec​aster> it might even be sufficient to obfuscate the inner workings from the users (unless one of you get on the server I guess)
L299[16:17:40] <ThePi​Guy24> discord has its own substitution shit
L300[16:17:59] <ThePi​Guy24> discord has it's/ own substitution shit [Edited]
L301[16:18:07] <Forec​aster> it uses SED, but it causes a message edit
L302[16:18:07] <ThePi​Guy24> just edits your last message
L303[16:18:14] <Michiyo> that only works for your own messages, and eats the command
L304[16:18:22] <Forec​aster> hence %s
L305[16:20:12] <Izaya> dequbed, CompanionCube: it may or may not interest you to know that I have my RX 580 running stable at 1550Mhz/1.2V, 184Mhz above stock.
L306[16:20:17] <Forec​aster> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/qizaxinaco
L307[16:21:30] <Izaya> still not maxing the 4790 B)
L308[16:22:03] <dequbed> Izaya: That's neat
L309[16:23:20] <Forec​aster> hm, 128 characters for mag stripe should be more than enough for the data I need to store
L310[16:24:07] <Forec​aster> also, the docs for os_cardwriter.write has a mistake in it
L311[16:24:17] <Michiyo> I'm shocked!
L312[16:24:18] <Forec​aster> it refers to the 3rd argument both for locking and for color
L313[16:24:31] <Forec​aster> color should say 4th argument
L314[16:24:36] <Forec​aster> :P
L315[16:24:58] <Amanda> Izaya: did you ever get into making docs more sectioned for POS2? It's kinda annoying browsing some docs with it, such as for pkgman -- I was trying to figure out how that worked again recently
L316[16:25:26] <ben_mkiv> i dont see color being mentioned at all?!
L317[16:25:38] <Izaya> afraid not, only got into concept stuff
L318[16:25:49] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/yyljkw65
L319[16:25:56] <Izaya> the eternal "I want to rewrite this but saner"
L320[16:26:02] <ben_mkiv> oh that doc
L321[16:26:02] * Amanda nods
L322[16:26:05] <Michiyo> Oh, the ingame doc
L323[16:26:18] <Michiyo> ben and I were looking at https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/wiki/CardWriter
L324[16:26:19] <Michiyo> lol
L325[16:26:25] <Michiyo> I can tell cause I thought the same thing he did :P
L326[16:26:45] <Forec​aster> oh poo, the cards don't stack once written, even if they have the same data
L327[16:26:46] <ben_mkiv> so we found 2 mistakes
L328[16:26:47] <Michiyo> make an issue @"Forec​aster" lol
L329[16:27:00] <ben_mkiv> nah, i'll fix that online quick
L330[16:27:07] <Michiyo> @Forec​aster because they don't
L331[16:27:14] <Michiyo> they both have different IDs
L332[16:27:18] <Michiyo> even with the same data
L333[16:27:30] <Forec​aster> I want to write the entire stack at once so they get the same id
L334[16:27:39] <Forec​aster> so they stack :>
L335[16:27:46] <Michiyo> they get their own UUID on creation IIRC
L336[16:27:51] <Izaya> Anyway, that's enough monster hunting, time for bed
L337[16:27:57] <Amanda> night Izaya
L338[16:28:00] <Ocawes​ome101> but it's only noon!
L339[16:28:05] <Forec​aster> yeah it prints the uuid in the return from the write method
L340[16:28:08] <Ocawes​ome101> :p
L341[16:28:12] <Ocawes​ome101> gnight izaya
L342[16:28:23] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/2cc253b5e8fe35009d0cd1e211169ca3a1932c86c5d943d23e42ff30ca3f1381.jpg
L343[16:29:31] <Michiyo> Yeah @"Forec​aster" Mag/RFID cards get a unique UUID on creation
L344[16:29:42] <Michiyo> and that is included in their NBT
L345[16:30:00] <Forec​aster> it's kind of important because loading/unloading a single item stack from a cart is too fast
L346[16:30:17] <Forec​aster> a one-item stack rather
L347[16:30:33] <ben_mkiv> how is that relevant?
L348[16:30:47] <Forec​aster> how is what relevant?
L349[16:31:01] <ben_mkiv> the time to unload the cart
L350[16:31:22] <Forec​aster> because I don't want it to be instantaneous
L351[16:31:41] <ben_mkiv> use a transposer with delay :P
L352[16:32:15] <ben_mkiv> or let a robot do the unloading if it can interact with the cart
L353[16:32:28] <Forec​aster> I don't have control over that?
L354[16:32:49] <Forec​aster> I can't force players to choke their unloading/loading except by increasing the amount of items
L355[16:33:32] <Forec​aster> I can make factories eat and output items slower, but that still allows the players trains to load/unload very quickly
L356[16:35:16] <Michiyo> I.. could possibly add a new card that overrides the UUID bit.
L357[16:35:32] <Forec​aster> otherwise I'll have to use eeproms
L358[16:36:30] <Michiyo> well, if you opt for eeproms you can lock them via the OC card writer
L359[16:36:34] <Michiyo> but AFAIK nowhere else.
L360[16:36:53] <ben_mkiv> but are they locked for writing in computers then?
L361[16:36:54] <Ocawes​ome101> `eeprom.makeReadOnly` exists
L362[16:36:56] <Ocawes​ome101> iirc
L363[16:36:57] <Forec​aster> they stack when written, although it still only writes one at a time it seems
L364[16:37:19] <Michiyo> oc respects 'oc:readonly'
L365[16:37:44] <Forec​aster> I'll use eeproms if I have to, but I'll take a custom mag card too
L366[16:37:50] <Forec​aster> I just need stacks of them :P
L367[16:38:30] <Forec​aster> I did some tests earlier on while designing the factories and found the load/unload speed to be important
L368[16:39:10] <ben_mkiv> it looks like that if you set ignoreUUIDs in the opensecurity config, it'll always return -1 as uuid
L369[16:39:11] <Michiyo> and yeah, the card writer doesn't have a 'mass write' option, you'd just have to loop it
L370[16:39:16] <ben_mkiv> which then should lead to them stacking
L371[16:39:24] <Michiyo> it'll *return* that yes, but it won't save that IIRC
L372[16:39:42] <Michiyo> or am I misremembering that
L373[16:39:49] <Forec​aster> I'll test that, I'll just have to restart mc
L374[16:40:06] <Michiyo> Hmm, looks like I might be misremembering it
L375[16:40:14] <Michiyo> so yeah that might work
L376[16:40:16] <ben_mkiv> well, it reads the nbt once you move them somewhere else
L377[16:40:37] <ben_mkiv> it'll write some uuid yea, but it'll never report that uuid to anything
L378[16:41:28] <Forec​aster> the card writer wont write if the output slot is occupied though
L379[16:41:29] <Forec​aster> even with eeproms which can stack
L380[16:41:35] <Forec​aster> `Allows for less secure security` marvelous
L381[16:42:05] <ben_mkiv> %blame michiyo
L382[16:42:06] * MichiBot blames michiyo for Inari's lewdness!
L383[16:42:18] <Michiyo> What? People wanted less secure security!
L384[16:42:19] <ben_mkiv> guess thats to blame on amanda
L385[16:42:21] <Michiyo> so I added it!
L386[16:42:52] <Forec​aster> I do want less secure security in this case :P
L387[16:43:03] <Forec​aster> cause I don't care about the uuid
L388[16:43:31] <ben_mkiv> the setting influences other things in opensecurity tho
L389[16:43:38] <Forec​aster> I guess one security solution would be to send the generated id of the newly written card to the central factory server and add it to a list of acceptable cards
L390[16:43:43] <ben_mkiv> iirc the radar for example
L391[16:43:56] <Michiyo> ... does it?
L392[16:44:18] <Forec​aster> then the receiving factory could have poked the central server to verify the input, that would keep players from trying to cheat with custom written cards
L393[16:44:24] <Michiyo> So it does.
L394[16:44:26] <Michiyo> neato.
L395[16:44:32] <Forec​aster> the comment only mentions RFID and mag cards
L396[16:44:44] <Michiyo> Wait
L397[16:44:45] <Michiyo> yeah
L398[16:44:48] <Michiyo> no that's right
L399[16:45:21] <Michiyo> the mag reader has special handling for it. and the RFID reader just does what it wants it seems :P
L400[16:45:29] <ben_mkiv> oh, ok
L401[16:45:55] <ben_mkiv> well the magnetic reader wont report the player uuid if a card is used by a player on the reader
L402[16:46:00] <Michiyo> yeah
L403[16:46:02] <Michiyo> String user = Config.getConfig().getCategory("general").get("ignoreUUIDs").getBoolean() ? "player" : em.getDisplayNameString();
L404[16:46:06] <Forec​aster> can you allow writing a stack at once too? :>
L405[16:46:16] <Forec​aster> it'd be great if that wasn't a choke point in the factories
L406[16:46:16] <Michiyo> No, sorry.
L407[16:46:31] <Michiyo> writes are instant, loop the write call?
L408[16:46:36] <Michiyo> but I'll see what I can do..
L409[16:46:50] <Forec​aster> it wont write if the slot is occupied.
L410[16:46:55] <Forec​aster> moving items is not instant
L411[16:47:21] <Michiyo> I'm pretty sure the slots don't allow stacking to fix.. an exploit I found early on
L412[16:47:27] <Forec​aster> if it could write and stack them in the output slot that would be fine, but it can't
L413[16:47:40] <ben_mkiv> put a hopper below
L414[16:47:44] <Forec​aster> input slot allows inputting a stack
L415[16:48:01] <Michiyo> yes the input does, but the output slot had... issues with stacking
L416[16:48:05] <Michiyo> it was bad :P
L417[16:48:24] <ben_mkiv> what happened?
L418[16:48:26] <Michiyo> Looks like that didn't make it into the newer MC branches though, so it might be fine
L419[16:49:07] <Michiyo> I don't recall the exact issue, but IIRC you could get unlimited cards if you managed to stack slot 1
L420[16:49:36] <Forec​aster> hm, less secure security but cards still wont stack
L421[16:49:56] <Michiyo> IDK if the stack decrement stuff just didn't fire or what.. but it was broken :P
L422[16:50:09] <Michiyo> Yeah.. I didn't think that would help. It still stores the UUID it just doesn't return it
L423[16:50:10] ⇨ Joins: EveryOS (uid454739@id-454739.highgate.irccloud.com)
L424[16:50:20] <Amanda> UNLIMMITED ~power~ CARDS!
L425[16:50:22] <Forec​aster> it does store it and returns it
L426[16:50:38] <Michiyo> Then you've done something wrong :P
L427[16:50:43] <Michiyo> Or I have.
L428[16:50:49] <Michiyo> but more than likely ben did
L429[16:50:50] <Michiyo> :D
L430[16:51:08] <ben_mkiv> no u
L431[16:51:11] <Forec​aster> there is no margin of error on my end xD
L432[16:51:18] <EveryOS> Now I don't have to go to the forum IRC when I want to use IRC! Though I did just remember, I am also in the Discord server :/ https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/TuayVwHY/image.png
L433[16:51:27] <Forec​aster> I just called "write" and compared the stored id with the returned id
L434[16:51:32] <Forec​aster> on two cards
L435[16:51:56] <Michiyo> if you're not getting -1 back then *something* is wrong
L436[16:51:59] <ben_mkiv> well it *might* return an UUID
L437[16:52:09] <ben_mkiv> on write
L438[16:52:13] <ben_mkiv> but might stack anyways
L439[16:52:17] <Forec​aster> I saw something about -1 when I was poking about the code
L440[16:52:21] <ben_mkiv> so did you try to stack them in another inventory?
L441[16:52:33] <Forec​aster> I checked the nbt data on the items
L442[16:52:46] <Forec​aster> they have the uuid the function calls returned stored in them
L443[16:52:48] <Forec​aster> not -1
L444[16:52:56] <Michiyo> Everything *SHOULD* run through the readFromNBT on the base card item
L445[16:52:57] <Michiyo> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/blob/1.12.2/src/main/java/pcl/opensecurity/common/items/ItemCard.java#L46
L446[16:53:18] <ben_mkiv> ah yea right
L447[16:53:22] <ben_mkiv> it wont stack
L448[16:53:24] <ben_mkiv> my fault
L449[16:53:29] <Forec​aster> if you'd prefer I will implement my own stuff do get what I need :P
L450[16:53:33] <Michiyo> BUT it DOES write that UUID out to the NBT directly in the writeToNBT that is first called.
L451[16:53:39] <Forec​aster> it will take me some time, but I will do it
L452[16:53:49] <ben_mkiv> it won't report to the player but minecraft actually compares the NBT raw
L453[16:54:06] <ben_mkiv> if you write it twice, it may work :P
L454[16:54:10] <Michiyo> lmao
L455[16:54:17] <Michiyo> @Forec​aster I don't mind either way
L456[16:54:35] <Forec​aster> "card is locked" well shoot
L457[16:54:42] <ben_mkiv> lock it on the 2nd write then :P
L458[16:54:55] * Amanda curls up around Elfi, sets up a small holographic window for her to observe her observing puppers through
L459[16:55:05] <ben_mkiv> or try without locking for science purpose
L460[16:55:31] <Forec​aster> tried with no locking, by the time I put it in a chest to get the nbt it has a uuid
L461[16:55:45] <Forec​aster> same one both writes returned
L462[16:57:58] <ben_mkiv> now that shouldn't happen when it got written twice
L463[16:58:33] <EveryOS> Why does Discord show Amanda's PFP https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/iOwcn8t2/image.png
L464[16:58:38] <EveryOS> But not IRC https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/aviJVQAX/image.png
L465[16:58:51] <Michiyo> Because I'm awesome?
L466[16:59:05] <Michiyo> the Discord profile pictures are handled by the bridge bot.
L467[16:59:11] <Michiyo> not by irc magic.
L468[16:59:15] <EveryOS> Ah, gotcha
L469[16:59:51] <Michiyo> you can !setmyavatar http://someimageurl.com/actualimage.png and set your own!
L470[16:59:55] <EveryOS> It's kind of weird having different PFPs on Discord and IRC
L471[16:59:58] <EveryOS> Thanks
L472[17:00:13] <EveryOS> !setmyavatar https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/avatar/s512/ZYmy6mXD
L473[17:00:14] <Michiyo> it *HAS* to be a direct image URL, no landing pages or anything like that
L474[17:00:16] <EveryOS> Test
L475[17:00:56] <Michiyo> yeah, that looks to actually be a landing page :P
L476[17:01:14] <EveryOS> Weird
L477[17:01:23] <Michiyo> atleast there is HTML in the request body that the bot got
L478[17:01:26] <EveryOS> When I open it my browser, it shows up as an image
L479[17:01:53] <EveryOS> Looks like PNG to me https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/4K86evum/image.png
L480[17:02:08] * Michiyo shrugs
L481[17:02:15] <Michiyo> the reply the bot got is html
L482[17:02:23] <EveryOS> Oh, maybe you have to be authenticated to view the file
L483[17:02:31] <ben_mkiv> they may do some shady browser refer/identification stuff
L484[17:02:33] <EveryOS> The HTML is probably a forbidden page
L485[17:02:44] <Michiyo> use this: https://drive.pc-logix.com/apps/files_sharing/publicpreview/kcxz7RwEfHpoPsW?x=1920&y=540&a=true&file=2020-10-29_10-02-04.png
L486[17:02:49] <Michiyo> in theory that'll work
L487[17:03:03] <EveryOS> !setmyavatar https://drive.pc-logix.com/apps/files_sharing/publicpreview/kcxz7RwEfHpoPsW?x=1920&y=540&a=true&file=2020-10-29_10-02-04.png
L488[17:03:08] <Michiyo> ok
L489[17:03:08] <EveryOS> Test
L490[17:03:19] <Michiyo> Hmm
L491[17:03:23] <EveryOS> Lemme reload Discord
L492[17:03:30] <ben_mkiv> guess michiyo is just bad at stuff
L493[17:03:33] <Amanda> ... maybe just turning up the brightness and caling it done wasn't the right move. I'm apparently observign puppers through milk: https://nc.ddna.co/s/AoAz2a7kme9nkjr
L494[17:03:56] <EveryOS> lol, guess I won't be able to use my avatar on IRC, only on Discord
L495[17:04:20] <Michiyo> hang on
L496[17:06:15] <Michiyo> %avatar
L497[17:06:15] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: Use `!setmyavatar <url>`
L498[17:06:24] <Michiyo> ok, I wasn't wrong that IS the right command
L499[17:06:24] <Michiyo> wtf
L500[17:06:45] <Forec​aster> This is pita
L501[17:07:13] <Forec​aster> https://tinyurl.com/y427eyko
L502[17:08:17] <Michiyo> EveryOS, say something?
L503[17:08:27] <EveryOS> Test
L504[17:08:33] <EveryOS> Thanks!
L505[17:08:40] <Michiyo> Ok, it works if I call it directly
L506[17:08:51] <Michiyo> so why doesn't the command work, and why am I getting an HTML response from it
L507[17:09:10] <Michiyo> bah
L508[17:09:16] <Michiyo> too many things going on at once
L509[17:09:18] <EveryOS> Maybe cloudflaire or something?
L510[17:09:18] <Michiyo> foooocus
L511[17:09:26] <EveryOS> What is the response?
L512[17:09:41] <Michiyo> I don't get the actual body on the console
L513[17:09:49] <EveryOS> Ah, gotcha
L514[17:09:49] <Michiyo> just the error from the command
L515[17:10:09] <Michiyo> for all I know something broke between the bot, and my web script :P
L516[17:11:17] <EveryOS> And then IRC itself, it's still really weird, lol https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MeZxmaDS/image.png
L517[17:11:40] <EveryOS> Probably that the IRC site I use provides the pictures, not the IRC itself
L518[17:13:09] <Forec​aster> IRC doesn't deal with images
L519[17:13:29] <EveryOS> Yea, I'm guessing it's the client I use that deals with images
L520[17:13:30] <Forec​aster> so yes
L521[17:14:00] <Michiyo> bah! I lost ALL of my changelog generation stuff
L522[17:14:17] <Michiyo> and my curseforge integration
L523[17:15:32] <Michiyo> one the one hand.. it sucks loosing all the historical jenkins stuff
L524[17:15:36] <Michiyo> on the other hand... ehhhh
L525[17:15:38] <Michiyo> lol
L526[17:15:45] <Michiyo> s/one//
L527[17:15:45] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> the one hand.. it sucks loosing all the historical jenkins stuff
L528[17:15:47] <Michiyo> damn it!@
L529[17:15:49] <Michiyo> -[POSW(EJT-pjYT
L530[17:16:24] <EveryOS> On most of the other IRC channels I am in, users have PFPs set https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3LFWWeZo/image.png
L531[17:16:44] <Michiyo> IRCCloud users see other IRCCLoud users profile pics.
L532[17:17:03] <EveryOS> Who here uses IRCCloud?
L533[17:17:13] <Michiyo> also there is... a "standard" for that so other clients can do them as well, but it is NOT supported by most clients
L534[17:17:29] <EveryOS> Weird
L535[17:19:15] <EveryOS> So IRC logs where people are connected from https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/7n5I5Ns5/image.png
L536[17:19:45] <EveryOS> What do users who connect directly from the oc.cil.li thread have there?
L537[17:20:23] <Michiyo> whatever Esper is using currently
L538[17:20:25] <Michiyo> TheLounge I think
L539[17:20:40] <Michiyo> 99% of the people here connect via a dedicated client.
L540[17:21:03] <EveryOS> Gotcha. For some reason I thought people would use the forum's IRC lol]
L541[17:21:31] <Michiyo> noooooo..oooooooo
L542[17:21:32] <Michiyo> No
L543[17:21:33] <Michiyo> lol
L544[17:22:55] <EveryOS> What other IRC channels do people here use?
L545[17:23:17] <Michiyo> the official #minecraft channel is on this network
L546[17:23:23] <Michiyo> lots of mods have channels here
L547[17:23:35] <Michiyo> you *should* be able to /list to see a full list of all channels here
L548[17:24:34] <EveryOS> Thanks
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L550[17:25:56] <EveryOS> Huh?, but I am registered with NickServ https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YLqkawI4/image.png
L551[17:26:30] <Michiyo> Yes but you are logged in to nickserv?
L552[17:26:36] <Michiyo> answer: no you're not
L553[17:26:49] <Michiyo> /ns identify password
L554[17:28:20] <EveryOS> What the https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/FZ89hphP/image.png
L555[17:28:35] <Michiyo> Well, there ya go!
L556[17:28:38] <EveryOS> But I am registered! https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/yMvdk9PL/image.png
L557[17:28:42] <Michiyo> nicks do get dropped after ~30 days
L558[17:29:22] <Michiyo> So if you've not logged in in ~30 days it'll get dropped
L559[17:29:38] <EveryOS> I just registered earlier today
L560[17:29:59] <Michiyo> Well
L561[17:30:02] <Michiyo> it isn't registered now..
L562[17:30:03] <Michiyo> soooo
L563[17:30:29] <EveryOS> Whatever
L564[17:35:04] <EveryOS> Ok, I've officially registered for NickServ twice today\nHere is the list https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/vMiMVOWV/image.png
L565[17:37:32] <Michiyo> yeah.. no
L566[17:37:46] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/aWFcgjjpnTgb99m
L567[17:38:02] <Michiyo> There are 299 non hidden/secret channels on Esper.
L568[17:38:17] <Michiyo> Oh, right and my default search is limited to 5 or more users
L569[17:38:46] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/s/HQRd8Krw6YMLog5
L570[17:38:59] <Michiyo> 1895 non hidden or secret channels
L571[17:39:26] <EveryOS> Yea, that does not work for me lol https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YcRyV4PR/image.png
L572[17:40:16] <Michiyo> wow...
L573[17:40:21] <Michiyo> great job IRCCloud.
L574[17:40:30] <Michiyo> Reason number way to effin many not to use it.
L575[17:40:36] <CompanionCube> did you remember to confir,
L576[17:41:05] <EveryOS> Have you ever tried IRCCloud? You sound annoyed by it's existance
L577[17:41:39] <Amanda> I used it for awhile, decided I'd rather a client that doesn't hang my laptop and peg the CPU every time I came out of suspend
L578[17:42:06] <EveryOS> Ah, I've never had that problem. It even works fine on my phone.
L579[17:42:28] <EveryOS> I use the website though, so that might be part of it
L580[17:42:29] <Amanda> phone was fine, the electron webapp they barely touched was the problem
L581[17:43:59] <EveryOS> On EsperNet, I feel like I fit in. But on FreeNode, I feel like an impostor
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L583[17:44:10] <Caitlyn> Why yes I have.
L584[17:44:13] <Caitlyn> I hate ot.
L585[17:44:16] <Caitlyn> it too.
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L588[17:44:39] <Michiyo> Anyway
L589[17:44:49] <Amanda> I switched to Quassel. Phone/Desktop clients, and I'm able to use my laptop immediately upun resuming
L590[17:45:03] <Amanda> shared backlog and history, everything I liked about IRCCloud
L591[17:45:14] <Amanda> only thin I miss is the in-app file uploads,but that's what Nextcloud's for
L592[17:45:25] <EveryOS> Caitlyn logged into their IRCCloud account just to say they do not like it lol
L593[17:45:32] <EveryOS> I'll check out Quassel
L594[17:46:35] <Michiyo> But yeah, I tried IRCCloud out for a few weeks
L595[17:46:38] <EveryOS> Is anybody here on any of the FreeNode channels? Do they feel like they fit in, or no?
L596[17:46:39] <Michiyo> and I was not impressed..
L597[17:52:31] <Forec​aster> I'm in #irssi on freenode
L598[17:52:37] <Forec​aster> I never check it
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L600[17:58:00] <CompanionCube> i'm on a lot of freenode channels
L601[17:59:22] <ben_mkiv> i'm playing way to much starcraft2 lately -.-
L602[17:59:25] <ben_mkiv> i should delete it
L603[17:59:54] <ben_mkiv> well, one more match
L604[18:01:51] <Forec​aster> ben_mkiv: 600 days later: "what year is it?!"
L605[18:03:57] <Michiyo> ^
L606[18:19:31] <ben_mkiv> ok, i won
L607[18:19:39] <ben_mkiv> time for rm -Rf wine_sc2 ;_;
L608[18:21:49] <Forec​aster> it is now 2022, everything is on fire now
L609[18:22:07] <ben_mkiv> so everything like usual
L610[18:22:19] <Forec​aster> there's a bit more fire
L611[18:22:20] <ben_mkiv> at least it aint cold anymore
L612[18:22:53] <ben_mkiv> steam knows
L613[18:23:04] <ben_mkiv> they just send me an email that an item on my wishlist is on sale
L614[18:23:23] <Forec​aster> see you in another 2 years
L615[18:23:46] <ben_mkiv> well it's an adventure
L616[18:23:53] <ben_mkiv> so chances are low to get trapped in devils circle
L617[18:24:07] <dequbed> Michiyo: How does the %quote thing work again?
L618[18:24:08] <MichiBot> deq​ubed: No quotes found for name 'thing wo​rk again?'
L619[18:24:21] <dequbed> Adding ones that is
L620[18:24:23] <ben_mkiv> like i was about to say 31GB free for new cat pics
L621[18:24:34] <ben_mkiv> and then they suggest that adventure with a cat https://store.steampowered.com/app/914020/Gibbous___A_Cthulhu_Adventure/
L622[18:24:38] <Forec​aster> quote add <name> <quote>
L623[18:24:51] <dequbed> %quote add Michiyo Because I'm awesome?
L624[18:24:51] <MichiBot> deq​ubed: Quote added at id: 213
L625[18:24:54] <dequbed> Thanks
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L627[18:25:21] <dequbed> Michiyo: Just for clarification: You are <3 But the answer was just /too/ perfect
L628[18:25:23] <Forec​aster> %quote Michiyo
L629[18:25:24] <MichiBot> Quote #118: <Mic​hiyo> http://pastebin.com/QWG0RgCx
L630[18:26:31] <Michiyo> hahahah
L631[18:26:33] <Michiyo> I love that one
L632[18:28:48] <ben_mkiv> xD
L633[18:29:04] <ben_mkiv> %subscribe catfacts
L634[18:29:10] <ben_mkiv> why isn't that a feature yet?
L635[18:29:12] <Michiyo> You've just subscribed to cat facts!
L636[18:29:14] <Ocawes​ome101> what do the colored bundled cables in Project Red: Transmission do?
L637[18:29:18] <Michiyo> Cats use their tails for balance and have nearly 30 individual bones in them! <To cancel Daily Cat Facts, reply 'cancel'>
L638[18:29:25] <Forec​aster> transmit things
L639[18:29:27] <dequbed> @Oc be bundled. and cables!
L640[18:29:29] <Ocawes​ome101> well yeah
L641[18:29:39] <dequbed> 16 channels of redstone, the old school way
L642[18:29:43] <Ocawes​ome101> do the different colored cables distinguish somehow between signals
L643[18:29:48] <dequbed> Yep
L644[18:29:51] <Forec​aster> yes
L645[18:30:06] <Ocawes​ome101> i mean the different color bundled cables
L646[18:30:12] <dequbed> Yep
L647[18:30:18] <Michiyo> so you can have multiple bundles
L648[18:30:22] <Ocawes​ome101> ie if i run a red bundled cable into a blue bundled cable they won't crosstalk?
L649[18:30:26] <ben_mkiv> are you playing 1.7.10 or whats going on?
L650[18:30:29] <dequbed> Pretty sure, yes
L651[18:30:30] <Michiyo> Yrd
L652[18:30:31] <Forec​aster> and the T2 redstone card can interact with it
L653[18:30:33] <Michiyo> Yes too
L654[18:30:44] <ThePi​Guy24> bundled cables + oc = powerful
L655[18:30:47] <Forec​aster> they wont connect yes
L656[18:30:55] <Ocawes​ome101> ah i see now, nevermind
L657[18:31:24] <Ocawes​ome101> it is now time to finish my tiny adder
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L660[18:47:19] <Forec​aster> about 75 points of data collected about carrier jump fuel usage
L661[18:47:58] <Forec​aster> hopefully I can figure out a formula for calculating it based on jump distance and used cargo space (assuming that affects it)
L662[18:54:46] <Ocawes​ome101> well, now that i fixed a bug with it, it works and is s m o l :)
L663[18:55:25] <Ocawes​ome101> most of this is just so i can see what it's doing https://tinyurl.com/y2o9sbbj
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L665[19:01:39] <Kristo​pher38> @Ocawesome101 I see you're a man of culture as well
L666[19:02:49] <Ocawes​ome101> :D
L667[19:03:27] <Kristo​pher38> it just so happens that I decided to go back to building my cpu in projectred today
L668[19:06:43] <Ocawes​ome101> neat
L669[19:06:53] <Ocawes​ome101> the state cell could easily be a hardware watchdog
L670[19:14:19] <Kristo​pher38> well I guess it's one of its uses
L671[19:14:40] <Kristo​pher38> or to make a hardware timer
L672[19:16:07] <Kristo​pher38> well a watchdog is a kind of timer
L673[19:16:23] <Ocawes​ome101> there isn't a way to nest ICs right?
L674[19:16:32] <Ocawes​ome101> i.e. i can't put circuit 1 into circuit 2?
L675[19:17:43] <Forec​aster> no
L676[19:18:54] <Kristo​pher38> this was theoretized before the maintainer gave up on projectred
L677[19:19:19] <Kristo​pher38> but sadly no
L678[19:19:32] <Kristo​pher38> this is good though, it puts some limitations to it
L679[19:20:10] <Kristo​pher38> you work around it by putting as much as possible into one IC
L680[19:20:45] <Ocawes​ome101> yup
L681[19:21:07] <Forec​aster> (or use a microcontroller instead) cough
L682[19:21:10] <Ocawes​ome101> i wonder if i could do it through nbt editing thinks
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L685[19:23:44] <Kristo​pher38> If you want a way for an easier copy-paste, there's a fork that implemented that
L686[19:24:47] <Kristo​pher38> if you want to make the schematic area larger I'd suggest looking into the source code, there are most likely some constraints implemented for max size of 64x64
L687[19:25:26] <Kristo​pher38> so you'd have to hack it
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L698[19:44:17] <Kristo​pher38> whoops, I crashed PR
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L701[19:51:55] <CompanionCube> Izaya: TIL that BT's prestel thingy involved hardware that basically came with a microkernel in ROM.
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L704[19:58:28] <EveryOS> NickServ is really annoying https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/U7wIt3dh/image.png
L705[19:58:54] <EveryOS> And, once again, cannot view channel lists https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Il9sNEZY/image.png
L706[20:00:22] <Forec​aster> you can't send your password to nickserv on freenode to log in on esper
L707[20:01:17] <EveryOS> Same password for both
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L709[20:03:41] <EveryOS> Had to reset the password https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/kdWoaAQE/image.png
L710[20:03:49] <EveryOS> Even though I literally did not change it
L711[20:04:06] <Forec​aster> maybe you typed it wrong the first time
L712[20:05:16] <EveryOS> I dunno. It looks like I also need to reset my password on FreeNode too, though. It didn't accept my password on FreeNode or EsperNet, until I reset my EsperNet password
L713[20:06:15] <Forec​aster> I've never really had an issue with nickserv
L714[20:06:44] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L715[20:06:46] <MichiBot> Awesome! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 16 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L716[20:06:46] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 4 hours, 16 minutes and 50 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00428)
L717[20:06:54] <EveryOS> There we go, I'm also in on FreeNode now https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bFdg5kZ0/image.png
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L719[20:45:14] <Forec​aster> ah yes, someone's already got a formula for carrier fuel usage
L720[20:45:15] <Forec​aster> cool
L721[20:45:32] <Forec​aster> it matches with my table, so that's good
L722[20:46:14] <Forec​aster> I can possibly incorporate that in my Carrier Lyft website I will make (eventually)
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L725[20:55:06] <Forec​aster> gonna have to write down the concept for that so I have it
L726[21:08:20] * Michiyo screams
L727[21:12:03] <Ocawes​ome101> rate my bundled cable adder https://tinyurl.com/y5ggy7ut
L728[21:12:17] <Ocawes​ome101> uses a custom IC for converting colors to adder inputs, and another one for the adders
L729[21:12:45] <Forec​aster> https://i.imgur.com/63aD55D.jpg
L730[21:12:56] <Forec​aster> Amanda in action
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L732[21:13:52] <chris> hi
L733[21:13:54] <Amanda> panel 5) Leave mr mouse in the airport or on the plane, buy a new one
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L735[21:14:57] <chris2> hi
L736[21:15:05] <Amanda> hi
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L739[21:19:02] <Forec​aster> %bye
L740[21:19:04] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Oh, well, bye I guess...
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L742[21:39:42] <DEMONit​ized boi> Can someone please tell me what's wrong with my code? I don't see any issues but it's not working so I'm hoping someone could help
L743[21:40:58] <Ocawes​ome101> well
L744[21:41:07] <Ocawes​ome101> first we need to know your issue and see your code
L745[21:41:17] <Amanda> Don't ask to ask, just ask
L746[21:41:31] <Lizzy> issue with code: lack of it
L747[21:42:32] <DEMONit​ized boi> https://tinyurl.com/y6z2st9c
L748[21:43:23] <DEMONit​ized boi> What it should do is sound an alarm, wait five seconds, close/open the door, wait five seconds, then turn off the alarm
L749[21:44:09] <bad at​ vijya> apparently this is a thing https://tinyurl.com/y2de2kba
L750[21:48:23] <Mic​hiyo> @DEMONitized boi And the issue?
L751[21:48:32] <Mic​hiyo> Let me guess component is nil or something?
L752[21:49:26] <Mic​hiyo> `local component = require('component')`
L753[21:56:46] <Bri​anH> OCawesome you know you could make it 1 RS tick
L754[21:56:50] <Bri​anH> an adder like that
L755[21:57:14] <bad at​ vijya> jesus fuck
L756[21:57:20] <bad at​ vijya> windows is running slow as fuck
L757[21:57:32] <Bri​anH> oldnews
L758[21:57:36] <bad at​ vijya> i mean
L759[21:57:39] <bad at​ vijya> worse than usual
L760[21:58:42] <Ocawes​ome101> what, by putting it all into one IC? @BrianH
L761[21:58:46] <Ocawes​ome101> i might do that at some point idk
L762[21:59:00] <Bri​anH> Sure
L763[21:59:13] <Bri​anH> first of all ocawesome, how many bits is this adder now? two 16 bit numbers?
L764[21:59:40] <Ocawes​ome101> two 8 bit so i can use a single bundled cable for input
L765[22:00:16] <bad at​ vijya> this is on an SSD https://tinyurl.com/y4b8p8jt
L766[22:00:19] <bad at​ vijya> at least it should be
L767[22:00:23] <Bri​anH> what kind of carry is it?
L768[22:00:31] <Ocawes​ome101> ripple carry
L769[22:00:36] <bad at​ vijya> oh no, it's on my fucking HDD
L770[22:00:38] <bad at​ vijya> for some reason
L771[22:00:57] <bad at​ vijya> which windows hates, for some reason
L772[22:01:10] <Bri​anH> so, I have found I can stuff as many as 192 bits in one IC, of RAM.
L773[22:01:10] <Ocawes​ome101> if i do put it on a single IC i wanna find the PR fork that has copy-paste in the IC editor
L774[22:01:12] <Bri​anH> however
L775[22:01:13] <Ocawes​ome101> nice
L776[22:01:38] <Bri​anH> its still too small to one shot two 8 bit numbers. Is the output 8 bits?
L777[22:01:50] <Bri​anH> or 16 or what
L778[22:01:51] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L779[22:01:54] <Ocawes​ome101> out is 8
L780[22:01:55] <Bri​anH> ok
L781[22:02:08] <Bri​anH> so you need 256 outputs. You could do it in as little as 2 ICs
L782[22:02:27] <Ocawes​ome101> this is an adder, not a decoder
L783[22:02:35] <Bri​anH> there is no difference
L784[22:02:48] <Ocawes​ome101> ???
L785[22:03:09] <Bri​anH> adders, subtractors, ALUs, it doesn't matter. They are all decoders.
L786[22:03:18] <Bri​anH> they are just arranged differently
L787[22:05:03] <Ocawes​ome101> o dpm
L788[22:05:05] <Ocawes​ome101> oops
L789[22:05:21] <Ocawes​ome101> i don't see how an arrangement of 2 XOR gates, an AND, and an OR is a decoder?
L790[22:12:40] <Kristo​pher38> i mean, it kinda maps one set of inputs into another set of inputs
L791[22:12:50] <Bri​anH> you are decoding information arranged in two 8 bit pairs of numbers into an output that is usable. When you do complicated logic systems networks even in analog circuitry you can represent that entire unit as one function
L792[22:12:51] <Kristo​pher38> outputs*
L793[22:13:06] <Bri​anH> you're just recoding from one form to another
L794[22:13:11] <bad at​ vijya> nani the fuck
L795[22:13:17] <bad at​ vijya> game is on SSD
L796[22:13:24] <bad at​ vijya> but windows is also trying to hit my HDD
L797[22:13:28] <Kristo​pher38> @Ocawesome101 let me find you a link to it
L798[22:13:40] <Kristo​pher38> you could've just asked me earlier :D
L799[22:13:48] <Ocawes​ome101> :P
L800[22:13:50] <Ocawes​ome101> thank you
L801[22:13:53] <bad at​ vijya> w h y https://tinyurl.com/yyzatlk5
L802[22:14:41] <Amanda> AC: temp drive is probably on the hdd
L803[22:14:55] <bad at​ vijya> why the fuck did it put it on the hdd--oh yeah, windows
L804[22:15:32] <Amanda> I mean, linux uses an in-memoey device for /tmp
L805[22:15:59] <Amanda> You probably don't want %TEMP% on a ssd though
L806[22:16:03] <Kristo​pher38> alright it's this one https://github.com/equalssign003d/ProjectRed
L807[22:16:10] <Amanda> At least, not of you care about the ssd
L808[22:16:22] <bad at​ vijya> windows doesn't care about the SSD
L809[22:16:25] <bad at​ vijya> also windows doesn't like this hdd
L810[22:16:26] <Kristo​pher38> you can compile that yourself or I can send you compiled jars if you feel like trusting me
L811[22:17:08] <Amanda> Don't do it! Last time I trusted kris I got an email with the title stinky cheese
L812[22:17:12] <Ocawes​ome101> i think i feel like trusting you
L813[22:17:26] <Ocawes​ome101> i don't like compiling java
L814[22:17:52] <Kristo​pher38> yes, a really bad one stinky cheese that spoiler in my fridge
L815[22:18:07] <Amanda> I had to burn all clothes I may have ever worn while online, and buy my computer in a pit with rocks and boulders
L816[22:18:15] <Kristo​pher38> you're on 1.12.2, am I right?
L817[22:18:17] <Amanda> Bury*
L818[22:19:47] <Amanda> ( https://youtu.be/zvfD5rnkTws )
L819[22:19:47] <MichiBot> "Weird Al" Yankovic - Virus Alert | length: 3m 44s | Likes: 35,758 Dislikes: 1,020 Views: 8,785,547 | by alyankovicVEVO | Published On 3/10/2009
L820[22:20:20] <bad at​ vijya> oh nice
L821[22:20:30] <bad at​ vijya> now steam is just going braindead
L822[22:20:37] <bad at​ vijya> [x] i think my windows install is borked
L823[22:20:50] <Amanda> You know
L824[22:20:51] <bad at​ vijya> WHAT
L825[22:20:53] <bad at​ vijya> I UNINSTALLED
L826[22:20:57] <bad at​ vijya> THE FUCKIN BTRFS DRIVERS
L827[22:21:43] <Amanda> Wish how much shit goes wrong with my, and my family's lives irl, I'm genuinely confused about how other people's win/mac/linux installs all seem to be so cursed
L828[22:21:57] <Amanda> Like
L829[22:22:28] <Amanda> We'll go on vacation somewhere and it'll be thunderstorms all week, but we've never had a cursed install
L830[22:23:35] <bad at​ vijya> I HAVE UNINSTALLED THE DRIVERS
L831[22:23:38] <bad at​ vijya> THREE TIMES NOW
L832[22:23:55] <Amanda> Sounds sus
L833[22:24:13] <Amanda> You sure the drivers were legit?
L834[22:24:21] <bad at​ vijya> YES
L835[22:24:22] <bad at​ vijya> caps
L836[22:24:47] <bad at​ vijya> anyways
L837[22:24:53] <bad at​ vijya> this shit is really angering me
L838[22:25:03] <bad at​ vijya> because a fucking windows update broke my goddamn btrfs drivers, first of all]
L839[22:25:08] <bad at​ vijya> and now i can't uninstall them
L840[22:25:23] <Amanda> At least all your documents weren't translated into swahili
L841[22:26:41] <bad at​ vijya> thank F U C K
L842[22:26:44] <bad at​ vijya> it finally uninstalled
L843[22:28:07] * Amanda deletes Inari's hard drives, and her backups tok
L844[22:28:23] <bad at​ vijya> https://tinyurl.com/y2vljtek
L845[22:28:28] <bad at​ vijya> [screaming]
L846[22:29:40] <DEMONit​ized boi> ~~delete system32~~
L847[22:29:54] <bad at​ vijya> my
L848[22:29:55] <bad at​ vijya> fucking
L849[22:29:58] <bad at​ vijya> ds3 won't work in wine
L850[22:30:40] <Amanda> No, I don't think the 3ds uses windows
L851[22:30:46] * Amanda flees
L852[22:30:48] <bad at​ vijya> what
L853[22:32:29] <DEMONit​ized boi> > `local component = require('component')`
L854[22:32:53] <bad at​ vijya> >windows nuked the .acf file
L855[22:32:56] <bad at​ vijya> because of course it did
L856[22:33:08] <Mic​hiyo> Then you don't have the alarm component properly
L857[22:33:14] <Mic​hiyo> oh.. component.get...
L858[22:33:15] <Mic​hiyo> no..
L859[22:33:34] <Mic​hiyo> .get is if you're using short UUIDs like just the first 5-6 characters
L860[22:33:43] <Mic​hiyo> you need to component.proxy(UUID)
L861[22:33:51] <DEMONit​ized boi> Ah I see.
L862[22:33:52] <Mic​hiyo> or component.proxy(component.get(shortuuid))
L863[22:34:03] <Mic​hiyo> get finds the full UUID for your short uuid
L864[22:36:17] <bad at​ vijya> windows also nuked my firefox stuff
L865[22:40:07] <Amanda> all the more to make you use Edge!
L866[22:40:19] <DEMONit​ized boi> ew no
L867[22:40:33] <bad at​ vijya> and now my ds3 isn't working
L868[22:40:49] <bad at​ vijya> i can't tell if my controller finally gave up or if windows broke my ds3 drivers
L869[22:41:38] <DEMONit​ized boi> https://tinyurl.com/yxfejaex
L870[22:41:43] <DEMONit​ized boi> one didn't close
L871[22:41:45] <DEMONit​ized boi> big sad
L872[22:44:45] <bad at​ vijya> >just want to play plane game
L873[22:44:56] <bad at​ vijya> >lmao stuck inputs
L874[22:50:44] ⇦ Quits: t20kdc (~20kdc@cpc139384-aztw33-2-0-cust220.18-1.cable.virginm.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
L875[22:51:31] <Amanda> you wanted to continuously roll, right?
L876[22:51:43] <DEMONit​ized boi> me?
L877[22:52:43] <Amanda> no
L878[22:52:53] <DEMONit​ized boi> ah ok
L879[22:57:01] <bad at​ vijya> i can't even try to fight
L880[22:57:07] <bad at​ vijya> god this sucks
L881[22:57:24] <bad at​ vijya> the windows controller test thing doesn't show the input sticking
L882[22:57:26] <bad at​ vijya> wtf
L883[23:18:02] <bad at​ vijya> man
L884[23:18:03] <bad at​ vijya> i love this
L885[23:18:04] <bad at​ vijya> i keep
L886[23:18:08] <bad at​ vijya> having to open this controller back up
L887[23:18:22] <bad at​ vijya> because one side's trigger/shoulder button assembly keeps slipping out
L888[23:18:29] <bad at​ vijya> because it's held in place by TENSION
L889[23:22:20] <bad at​ vijya> i am about to blow my brains out
L890[23:42:09] <Ocawes​ome101> i now have a tiny, instant 8-bit adder :^)
L891[23:46:13] <Ocawes​ome101> well, 1-tick
L892[23:52:01] <Michiyo> I hate/love OneDrive.
L893[23:52:32] <Michiyo> It's great that it lets me sync and offload my huge ass documents directory without resorting to mapping that directory to another drive which causes issues with FFXIV..
L894[23:52:57] <Michiyo> but at the same time trying to navigate said directory is PAINFULLY slow <_>
L895[23:53:01] <Vexaton> uni gives every student 50GB seafile storage hosted on campus
L896[23:53:06] <Vexaton> that's pretty nice
L897[23:54:27] <Amanda> %choose waves or sleeps l
L898[23:54:27] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Haven't you always gone with "waves"? Hm, maybe not.
L899[23:54:27] <Michiyo> I had my docs mapped to a drive on my sever..
L900[23:54:35] <Michiyo> but FFXIV choked on that
L901[23:55:52] <Vexaton> on windows?
L902[23:56:08] <Vexaton> didn't even know you could link drives on windows
L903[23:56:18] <Vexaton> or directories
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