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L1[00:03:05] <Michiyo> %shellcount
L2[00:03:06] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: You have 1 Blue Shell, 3 Red Shells, and 5 Green Shells
L3[00:20:26] <Ko​dos> So, I'm debating on how to go about this; I want to make a mod for 1.16.3 that adds music discs with various songs. Do I develop my own standalone mod, or hold out for ContentTweaker and do it that way
L4[00:34:24] <Amanda> Can it be done with jjust a datapack these days?
L5[00:38:42] <Ko​dos> Probably, now that you mention it. I'll check into that when I'm back from my quick errand
L6[00:38:47] <Ko​dos> That would be infinitely easier on me for sure.
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L10[02:18:26] <Izaya> texture packs stronk nowadays
L11[02:37:57] <Izaya> https://hackaday.com/2020/10/19/new-raspberry-pi-4-compute-module-so-long-so-dimm-hello-pcie/
L12[02:43:22] <Ar​iri> Inari: https://www.reddit.com/r/wholesomeyuri/comments/jefl2b/pov_your_daughter_introduces_her_girlfriend_to/
L13[02:59:21] * Amanda does a quick tour around elfi's grove, curls up among some flowers she found, zzzmews
L14[02:59:24] <Amanda> Night nerds
L15[03:00:59] <Izaya> o/
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L17[03:53:48] <Mic​hiyo> @Forecaster what were we in Suluo for?
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L24[04:07:36] <Michiyo> ...
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L28[04:38:47] <Forec​aster> @Michiyo Thargoid pew pew community goal
L29[04:38:55] <Michiyo> Ahh
L30[04:40:04] <Michiyo> I'm Harmless, so not something I can do a lot of :P
L31[04:41:28] <Forec​aster> If you want to earn some easy money you can do some exploration here, then sell it when we've returned to the bubble
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L37[07:49:47] <Michiyo> Yeah, I might do that. I just got my HOTAS hooked back up
L38[07:49:51] <Michiyo> and my Vive
L39[07:50:16] <Michiyo> I really wish I had a flip up style headset... I always forget where buttons are.. lol
L40[07:51:08] <Forec​aster> also, if you want to safely pew pew some 'goids I have AX fighters in my corvette :3
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L43[08:41:36] <Forec​aster> %sip
L44[08:41:36] <MichiBot> You drink a fragrant grathnode potion (New!). The bottle turns into a sword.
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L46[09:02:49] <simon816> %tonk
L47[09:02:49] <MichiBot> Bingo! simo​n816! You beat Ar​iri's previous record of 8 hours, 31 minutes and 59 seconds (By 3 hours, 51 minutes and 19 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L48[09:02:50] <MichiBot> simon816's new record is 12 hours, 23 minutes and 19 seconds! simon816 also gained 0.03474 (0.00386 x 9) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #8. Need 0.06293944 more points to pass Ocawes​ome101!
L49[09:10:31] <SquidDev> Geesh. That's one long tonk.
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L61[13:12:08] * Amanda yawns, streeeetches
L62[13:12:13] <Amanda> meowning nerds
L63[13:35:06] <dequbed> Izaya: CM4 is neat but dropping the SODIMM connector is meh. And then its still a Broadcom chip
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L65[13:57:18] <ThePi​Guy24> i do want a cm4, but the very small pin pitch is gonna stop me from manually soldering it to anything
L66[13:57:30] <ThePi​Guy24> sodimm is doable by hand
L67[13:58:13] <!0§A.​pjals™> fun fact: 70% of this channel is not related to opencomputers
L68[13:58:21] <dequbed> Yes?
L69[13:58:22] <ThePi​Guy24> that generous
L70[13:58:29] <ThePi​Guy24> probably more like 905%
L71[13:58:32] <ThePi​Guy24> *95
L72[13:58:34] <!0§A.​pjals™> true
L73[13:58:46] <dequbed> @ThePiGuy24 ??? If ya can't solder DF40 ya can't solder SODIMM.
L74[13:59:35] <dequbed> Like that's 0.4mm vs 0.5mm.
L75[14:02:45] <dequbed> 0.6mm if you go DDR3, not much better.
L76[14:02:53] <ThePi​Guy24> hm
L77[14:03:29] <Izaya> 905% seems accurate
L78[14:04:45] <dequbed> The better argument is that going with an industry standard would stop total vendor lock-in to Hirose but even that can be contested given that high qualitiy DDR basically mean Amphenol and shitty chinese clones exist of just about everything. And we did full vendor lock-in with Molex and ATX and that didn't die from that either.
L79[14:05:33] <dequbed> And that DF40 are twice the price of DDR4-SODIMM for the same pin number. But I think that argument stops as soon as DDR5-SODIMM drops.
L80[14:08:54] <dequbed> Izaya: Anyway for you capitalist-friend learn from Molex: They got their patented Mini-fit Jr. standardized into ATX and thus basically all PCs since something something 1995.
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L83[14:52:47] <ThePi​Guy24> yes OC discussions equate to approximately -805% of discussions here
L84[14:54:27] <Izaya> dequbed: who are you calling a capitalist
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L86[14:58:14] <dequbed> Izaya: You ;)
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L89[16:58:40] <Forec​aster> %sip
L90[16:58:40] <MichiBot> You drink a gloomy rubium potion (New!). Forecaster feels a sudden surge of static electricity.
L91[16:58:48] <Forec​aster> Ohno
L92[17:21:43] <Forec​aster> hm, 13 hours left on the CG
L93[17:22:11] <Forec​aster> the bottom limit is approaching my current contribution, so I'm gonna have to pew pew some more 'goids to bring it up further
L94[17:39:41] <bad at​ vijya> i still haven't added ustar support to my archiver
L95[17:39:57] <bad at​ vijya> soon™️
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L103[18:22:44] <Skalistan> The confirmation email seems to be broken for me
L104[18:23:09] <Mic​hiyo> "The"?
L105[18:23:14] <Mic​hiyo> I assume you mean for the forums?
L106[18:23:21] <Skalistan> yah
L107[18:24:14] <Skalistan> Wanted to change my email address and now I am locked in the "confirm your email" page
L108[18:25:09] <Mic​hiyo> I see you've changed it 3 times now, which is the right one?
L109[18:25:17] <Mic​hiyo> Hang on I'll switch to IRC and you can PM me
L110[18:25:28] <Skalistan> the last one
L111[18:27:58] <Michiyo> Ok, you should be good to go
L112[18:39:08] <bad at​ vijya> where the fuck can i find a 98 Odyssey or a 98-99 Isuzu Oasis
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L115[18:50:11] <bad at​ vijya> found one with a toasted transmission
L116[18:51:45] <bad at​ vijya> good thing i don't need it, 'cause i'm shoving my Accord's engine and transmission in it 👀
L117[18:51:52] <Mr. Al​ Patino> is open computers mod dead?
L118[18:52:00] <Michiyo> No
L119[18:52:22] <Mr. Al​ Patino> idk man seems kind of dead to me
L120[18:52:33] <bad at​ vijya> minecraft is dead
L121[18:52:42] <Mr. Al​ Patino> nah
L122[18:52:46] <Michiyo> The most recent build on CI is 18 days old.
L123[18:52:49] <Michiyo> that's dead?
L124[18:53:03] <Mr. Al​ Patino> then were is it?
L125[18:53:11] <Mr. Al​ Patino> bot?
L126[18:53:15] <Michiyo> It's not had a Curse release in a while, and payonel is busy with RL, but it's not dead.
L127[18:53:24] <Michiyo> I'm not a bot.
L128[18:53:27] <Michiyo> I'm on IRC
L129[18:53:27] <Mr. Al​ Patino> ok
L130[18:53:35] <Michiyo> https://ci.cil.li/
L131[18:53:52] <Mr. Al​ Patino> why does this bot act like a human?
L132[18:53:55] <Mr. Al​ Patino> thats cool
L133[18:53:59] * Michiyo sighs
L134[18:54:15] <Michiyo> I'm. On. IRC.
L135[18:54:25] <Michiyo> There is a bot that relays messages between Discord and IRC
L136[18:55:01] <Mr. Al​ Patino> ok
L137[18:55:21] <Mr. Al​ Patino> also what does irc mean (ignore my ignorance)
L138[18:56:07] <Michiyo> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
L139[18:56:20] <Michiyo> One of, if not THE oldest multi user chat protocol on the internet
L140[18:57:15] <Michiyo> Still in use I should say
L141[18:57:22] <Michiyo> MUT is older, as IRC was its replacement
L142[18:57:29] <Michiyo> and... I don't think anyone still uses MUT
L143[19:00:21] <ThePi​Guy24> theres probably one or two that "have it set up just how i like it" :p
L144[19:00:36] <Michiyo> MUT to IRC bridging lolol
L145[19:01:57] <Forec​aster> the heck is MUT
L146[19:02:02] <Forec​aster> Multi User Typing?
L147[19:02:04] <Forec​aster> :P
L148[19:03:11] <ThePi​Guy24> Several people are typing...
L149[19:06:20] <Michiyo> MUT (MultiUser Talk)
L150[19:13:36] <bad at​ vijya> the odyssey manual swap
L151[19:13:38] <bad at​ vijya> will happen
L152[19:16:34] <Michiyo> I really want to do the v6 swap on my car..
L153[19:16:42] <Michiyo> but who the fuck has that much free time...
L154[19:16:52] <Michiyo> And also the electrical issues are.. annoying
L155[19:25:50] <dequbed> Michiyo: Pf IRC. Just use wall.
L156[19:27:24] * Michiyo starts writing messages on the wall, and then throwing chunks at people
L157[19:27:27] <Michiyo> Kay!
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L159[19:32:41] <bad at​ vijya> Michi: I have a few options: My falling apart Accord, building the dream Odyssey, or buying a new car.
L160[19:32:58] <bad at​ vijya> One of those sounds awful and another sounds too expensive.
L161[19:36:34] <Michiyo> Biggest issue for me is, that's my only legal mode of transportation
L162[19:36:53] <Michiyo> my truck isn't tagged and to get tags, tires, and other stuff is gonna be north of $1500
L163[19:39:31] <Michiyo> Oh, and also I have to use the ECM from the other engine and half wire it into the existing ECM/main buss so that as much works as possible, but stuff like the TAC and a number of other things are a NIGHTMARE to get working
L164[19:54:27] <bad at​ vijya> Yikes
L165[19:55:09] <bad at​ vijya> From what I'm reading I can just throw my Accord's ECU in and ride (with a few small modifications here and there)
L166[19:56:19] <bad at​ vijya> The ECU should still be good? Hopefully?
L167[19:58:38] <Michiyo> I'm going from a straight 4 to a v6, ECM wouldn't even START to know how to handle that
L168[19:58:39] <Michiyo> lol
L169[19:59:49] <dequbed> I mean nowadays ECM have a reasonable abstract model of the engine so it might just do know. But that might require reflashing the ECU ;p
L170[20:00:11] <Michiyo> "nowadays" this is from '99
L171[20:00:12] <Michiyo> :P
L172[20:00:29] <dequbed> Nowadays means "basically since BOSCH built ECUs".
L173[20:01:12] <ThePi​Guy24> just get an engine withough an ECU :p
L174[20:01:30] <dequbed> No, don't. ECUs are really good.
L175[20:01:51] <Forec​aster> just get a car without an engine
L176[20:01:57] <CompanionCube> Izaya: Skye: so google is facing antitrust in the US now.
L177[20:01:59] <Michiyo> Excellent idea @"Forec​aster"
L178[20:03:08] * t20kdc waits for Microsoft to take advantage of the power vaccum and make things a million times worse
L179[20:03:36] <t20kdc> there is a Huawei tablet that ships with SwiftKey. no AOSP keyboard. NONE.
L180[20:03:57] <CompanionCube> t20kdc: reckon they still have memories of them getting whacked with the stick?
L181[20:03:59] <t20kdc> and it does you the service of fucking popping up and saying about the "benefits" of logging in with a SwiftKey account.
L182[20:04:10] <t20kdc> CompanionCube: Minecraft Bedrock Edition
L183[20:04:24] <CompanionCube> huh?
L184[20:04:33] <CompanionCube> (as recently as 2007, even)
L185[20:04:57] <t20kdc> simply put, antitrust cases don't do anything to them, they just get clever about it
L186[20:05:23] <t20kdc> oh, getting sued over the flipping Java thing? make .NET which is everything they wanted to do to Java as a separate language
L187[20:05:45] <t20kdc> slash-language-ecosystem you get the point
L188[20:06:06] <t20kdc> browser choice? conveniently stopped existing
L189[20:06:47] <t20kdc> every time Microsoft have been sued over their BS AFAIK, Microsoft have not actually changed their behaviour to uphold the point of it,
L190[20:06:59] <t20kdc> they've simply changed their behaviour juuust enough that they're technically complying
L191[20:08:19] <CompanionCube> more problematic is if trump's DOJ have rushed the case for political reasons, undermining it
L192[20:09:54] <t20kdc> honestly, good; not saying what Google do is great but given that everybody else is worse, anything that attacks Google pretty much fucks over everybody
L193[20:10:29] <t20kdc> (at least everybody else actually on the consumer field anyway)
L194[20:10:53] <CompanionCube> someone else is already going after apple though, and it's hard to pin microsoft down on anything bad specifically.
L195[20:11:26] <t20kdc> well, for one, Microsoft has just plain started ignoring the whole browser choice thing
L196[20:11:34] <t20kdc> has been for ages actually
L197[20:12:07] <t20kdc> like, someone seems to have decided, well, Microsoft did their time, they can now go back to doing what got them in trouble, and now it's not a crime because nobody cares
L198[20:12:39] <dequbed> That's ... not how that works.
L199[20:13:13] <t20kdc> dequbed: how the browser choice situation works or how crime works, because, well, go install Windows 10, you won't find a browser choice screen there
L200[20:13:28] <dequbed> That's *so not how any of that works*.
L201[20:14:09] <CompanionCube> (maybe facebook too?)
L202[20:15:24] <Vexatos> mac computers have safari installed by default, windows computers have edge, android phones have chrome, it's all the same
L203[20:16:09] <t20kdc> Vexatos: well, go tell that to whoever at... was it the EU? I think it was the EU - apparently seems to have decided via inaction that the browser choice thing was one-time-only
L204[20:17:10] <t20kdc> the whole point is, all of this antitrust stuff is essentially completely temporary concessions that never works, and if that changes, there are better targets than Google
L205[20:17:32] <Vexatos> there are also worse targets
L206[20:17:37] <Vexatos> be happy they're investigating at all
L207[20:17:52] <Vexatos> EU lawyers also don't have infinite time and I assure you this is a LOT of paperwork
L208[20:18:11] <bad at​ vijya> Michi: ah, fair enouch
L209[20:18:14] <bad at​ vijya> *ebough
L210[20:18:17] <bad at​ vijya> *enough
L211[20:18:25] <CompanionCube> on macOS in particular it'd be a difficult argument to make
L212[20:18:25] <bad at​ vijya> godtier speller sam
L213[20:18:29] <Vexatos> if it is the EU this time or some other place, idk
L214[20:18:29] <CompanionCube> iOS, though....
L215[20:18:41] <Vexatos> oh, CC said US
L216[20:18:59] <CompanionCube> yes, this time it's the US. In the EU i think it's apple's turn this year?
L217[20:19:14] <t20kdc> Vexatos: America this time. But more importantly if they (and this is hypothetical) try to do the import restrictions dance, all they'll do is give power to Apple, and worsen everything for people
L218[20:19:16] <Vexatos> apple has the best case against them because they make installing a different browser really hard
L219[20:19:26] <Vexatos> on windows and android it's at least easy to install something else
L220[20:19:51] <CompanionCube> whereas on iOS you are specifically prohibited from using any browser that doesn't wrap safari
L221[20:22:07] <t20kdc> if they go after browser stuff on the desktop, that'll be harmless, but, what is there to do even there... I guess they could try to force them to make Chrome more like Firefox privacy-wise? that'd be nice
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L223[20:50:39] <Atl​asim> https://tinyurl.com/y33pwcm7
L224[20:51:25] <CompanionCube> maybe was fake on purpose?
L225[20:58:55] <ThePi​Guy24> the secret IPv5, 33 bit :p
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L228[21:23:44] <CompanionCube> today on DMCA: twitch?
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L230[21:27:16] <simon816> %tonkout
L231[21:27:16] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! simo​n816! You beat your own previous record of 12 hours, 23 minutes and 19 seconds (By 1 minute and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L232[21:27:17] <MichiBot> simo​n816 has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.012 tonk points! plus 0.022 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.63047, Position #8 Need 0.02893944 more points to pass Ocawes​ome101!
L233[21:27:45] <Ariri> Damn it
L234[21:27:50] <Ariri> 30 seconds late
L235[21:28:06] <CompanionCube> that's a nice chunk of points right there
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L238[21:28:54] <simon816> not worth it below 12h :p
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L240[21:34:24] <hidude398> Hey guys, I had a bit of a programming question. Would this be an appropriate place to ask?
L241[21:35:57] <Michiyo> Nope, we don't do programming here sorry
L242[21:35:59] <Michiyo> (Yes)
L243[21:36:17] <Michiyo> also %ask
L244[21:36:18] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: http://sol.gfxile.net/dontask.html
L245[21:41:49] <hidude398> Alright, thanks for the suggestion. My question revolves around a threaded chat program I wrote while testing in a creative world. Basically, I have a chat program which continuously searches for inbound modem messages on a channel, and if it receives one via event.pull, it'll use term.write() to write the message to a newline, and move the user in
L246[21:41:50] <hidude398> put down one line. My issue is that the cursor remains locked in the position it was in when term.read() is called in the main thread, and using term.setCursor() hasn't helped. I was wondering how I could interrupt term.read() in order to move the cursor. I'm not sure if it belongs in its own read() thread, or if there's a better way to do that.
L247[21:50:32] <Ocawes​ome101> just leave term.read() on the bottom line, that's all you gotta do
L248[21:50:45] <Ocawes​ome101> also https://asciinema.org/a/Bk989BwjM8ZqCTFMXjn8I9v5g
L249[21:53:30] <hidude398> Thanks!
L250[21:53:39] <Ocawes​ome101> np
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L258[22:33:19] <Ariri> %tonk
L259[22:33:20] <MichiBot> Crud! Ar​iri! You beat simo​n816's previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 6 minutes and 3 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L260[22:33:20] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 1 hour, 6 minutes and 3 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.0011 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #9. Need 0.2406 more points to pass simo​n816!
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L262[22:59:31] <grantlmul> doing all sorts of hacky stuff to try to get ocvm working
L263[23:00:32] <grantlmul> need to figure out how to not need LD_LIBRARY_PATH set
L264[23:01:36] <CompanionCube> huh?
L265[23:02:00] <grantlmul> openSUSE
L266[23:02:55] <Ar​iri> https://tinyurl.com/y6aw87nz
L267[23:03:19] <Ar​iri> %tell Inari Same-ame-ame https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/768247907023060992/image0.jpg
L268[23:03:21] <MichiBot> Ar​iri: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L269[23:03:28] <grantlmul> whats the picture supposed to be
L270[23:03:45] <Ar​iri> vtuber shenanigans
L271[23:04:14] <grantlmul> for some reason i cant access the image
L272[23:04:51] <Ar​iri> Oh, neither can I, seems they made it so deleted images are finally inaccessible once deleted
L273[23:05:26] <Ar​iri> %tell Inari correction: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695073771416977452/768248463464464394/image0.jpg
L274[23:05:26] <MichiBot> Ar​iri: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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