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L1[00:06:11] <Amanda> %choose go all-in?
L2[00:06:11] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Ah... well, I'd say wait an hour.
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L5[00:55:52] <Amanda> s/mg/ng/
L6[00:55:52] <MichiBot> <MandalorTheWorthy> true. I just find getting the send/receive message code to work properly xD likely because I'm Big Dung
L7[00:56:05] * Amanda giggleflees
L8[01:08:14] <Ariri> %tonk
L9[01:08:14] <MichiBot> Huzzah! Ar​iri! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 4 hours, 12 minutes and 57 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L10[01:08:15] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 4 hours, 12 minutes and 57 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.00422 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #9. Need 0.18336 more points to pass simo​n816!
L11[01:09:05] <Izaya> @MandalorTheWorthy https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel/blob/master/RPC/OpenOS/
L12[01:09:15] <Izaya> has utils for sharing components over the network
L13[01:32:30] <Amanda> %choose restart to fix toolbelt?
L14[01:32:31] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I don't think I've heard of "restart to fix toolbelt?", so probably not.
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L16[02:40:35] <Proz​acgod> I'm not sure where to post this but Asie's ssl certs expired or something, and I can't install lunatic86 though oppm
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L18[02:43:21] <Izaya> https://github.com/asiekierka/lunatic86
L19[02:43:43] <Izaya> looks like they're not running their own git(ea?) server now
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L21[02:49:46] <Proz​acgod> I see, thanks - I guess it's in the oppm registry wrong or something
L22[02:51:04] <Izaya> yeah I'm guessing it just hasn't been updated yet
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L26[04:50:36] <Ariri> Fixed my phone, but rip water resistance ;(
L27[04:53:19] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L28[04:53:19] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Ariri's record of 4 hours, 12 minutes and 57 seconds this time. 3 hours, 45 minutes and 4 seconds were wasted! Missed by 27 minutes and 53 seconds!
L29[04:54:15] <Michiyo> ouch.
L30[04:56:53] <Michiyo> I just love it when someone who knows nothing about a subject argues with me.
L31[04:57:12] <Michiyo> makes me want to bash my head into something sharp, and rusty.
L32[04:57:22] <Michiyo> Cause somehow they're an export...
L33[04:57:43] <Michiyo> expert too
L34[04:57:52] <Michiyo> I've been up for 22 hours at this point <_<
L35[04:58:02] <Michiyo> and I have 5 hours left./
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L37[05:02:11] <Ariri> 22 hours is prime time, until 26
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L40[05:16:57] <Izaya> hmhm
L41[05:17:00] <Izaya> so
L42[05:17:02] <Izaya> instgen
L43[05:17:18] <Izaya> I have a version that can add a repository to an existing installer floppy
L44[05:17:23] <Izaya> but the code for that is inelegant
L45[05:18:10] <Izaya> would it be nicer to a) be able to update an existing programs.cfg or b) consume multiple programs.cfg files at once?
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L48[05:47:06] <Izaya> https://git.shadowkat.net/izaya/OC-misc/commit/407d8fa43cb23581b5c97fe41fe2a98b08856b6f
L49[05:47:36] <Izaya> much saner
L50[05:48:05] <ThePi​Guy24> the word "sane" does not go with the name "Izaya"
L51[05:48:20] <Izaya> while I don't necessarily disagree with you
L52[05:48:32] <Izaya> I'm using much less flaky command templating and such now
L53[05:49:09] <Izaya> with a degree of error handling ability
L54[05:50:18] <Izaya> ~w install
L55[05:50:19] <ocdoc> Predicted 'Help I'm trapped in a shoe factory!'
L56[05:50:31] <Izaya> [concern]
L57[05:51:13] <ThePi​Guy24> i think the bots trying to tell us something
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L60[06:10:04] <Proz​acgod> anyone know what might be causing lunatic to double type? https://tinyurl.com/y38tbp2q
L61[06:10:39] <Izaya> try rebooting
L62[06:10:44] <Izaya> might be left over event listeners
L63[06:15:08] <Proz​acgod> I did that a few times, I just tried a dos 5.0 boot disk and... it's not double typing so maybe the freedos kernel is a bit odd for lunatic.
L64[06:16:25] <Izaya> maybe so
L65[06:16:36] <Izaya> lunatic is a somewhat wonky emulator
L66[06:17:10] <Proz​acgod> yeah, indeed ... still impressive!
L67[06:17:18] <Izaya> for sure
L68[06:17:37] <Izaya> the IBM PC is certainly a complicated target, even when you're only targeting the 8086 era ones
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L70[07:01:57] <Izaya> I'd rather like to see Xenix or similar on it
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L72[07:10:08] <Inari> all YOur iNFO is Out TherE aLreAdy, SO it's PoinTlESS TO NOT WAnT A FACEbOOK ACcOuNt
L73[07:10:30] <Izaya> my favourite argument
L74[07:10:43] <Izaya> right up there with "google already knows everything so who cares"
L75[07:11:00] <Inari> Damn, I'm gonna die some day, guess it's pointless to be healthy in order to live longer (not exact comparison, but :P)
L76[07:11:52] <Izaya> yeah exactly
L77[07:11:55] <Izaya> who would do that?
L78[07:12:11] <Izaya> sounds like an obstacle to immediate self-gratification
L79[07:14:40] <Inari> Tbf, I don't think I've ever seen data of me that was out there used in a competent way
L80[07:16:22] <Inari> If I ever see ads it's stupid ones at least
L81[07:17:47] <Inari> "Hey, you viewed these products a day ago..." - right, guess why I didn't buy any then! // "Hey, you're visiting a WoW page, do you want to buy WoW?" - I mean, I have it already, tahts why I'm visiting this WoW page?
L82[07:19:38] <Inari> Or when Google ads thinks you're a guy cause you visit tech/gaming sites ;D
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L88[08:48:34] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L89[08:57:53] <Inari> Ariri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-VnFQvCLDc
L90[08:57:53] <MichiBot> 【原神】公式PV キャラクター紹介 クレー(CV：久野美咲) | length: 1m 43s | Likes: 13,176 Dislikes: 55 Views: 134,665 | by 原神-Genshin-公式 | Published On 19/10/2020
L91[09:16:17] <Forec​aster> %sip
L92[09:16:18] <MichiBot> You drink a runny pink potion (New!). Forecaster's bed is suddenly slightly less comfortable until someone looks at them.
L93[09:16:33] <Forec​aster> I hope someone sees me before I get home
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L97[11:33:12] * Amanda moves @forecaster's rendering to another level
L98[11:39:17] <Sap​hire> hums and bounces idly
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L102[12:07:31] <ThePi​Guy24> %tonk
L103[12:07:32] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! ThePi​Guy24! You beat Ar​iri's previous record of 4 hours, 12 minutes and 57 seconds (By 3 hours, 1 minute and 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L104[12:07:33] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new record is 7 hours, 14 minutes and 12 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.0151 (0.00302 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #6. Need 0.13855056 more points to pass Li​zzy!
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L110[12:32:24] <Snai​lDOS> @Prozacgod How did you even get Lunatic to load up, I can't even installer it since the server is down.
L111[13:05:40] <Bri​anH> https://tinyurl.com/yxfddq9s
L112[13:05:44] <Bri​anH> HTML5 hardware DOM accelerator
L113[13:05:53] <Bri​anH> LOLOLOLOL
L114[13:08:05] <M​GR> Oh good, it's a joke
L115[13:08:27] <Izaya> Was worried there for a second.
L116[13:10:07] <Bri​anH> heh
L117[13:20:35] <ben_mkiv> 256MB emoji cache xD
L118[13:21:09] <Izaya> for that usecase it'd probably be worthwhile
L119[13:28:13] <Bri​anH> is bus mastering available on ALL PCI?
L120[13:28:36] <Bri​anH> if it is why is this page telling me to copy memory to the VGA card by hand lol
L121[13:28:38] <Bri​anH> just use DMA
L122[13:28:44] <Bri​anH> for the double buffer
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L130[15:32:39] <Panak​otta00> guess a stupid question... but... is there something in the making in terms of... supporting newer MC versions?
L131[15:32:58] <M​GR> Yes
L132[15:33:00] <M​GR> It's just slow
L133[15:34:33] <Panak​otta00> damn... ok thanks for letting me know
L134[15:36:47] <dequbed> At this stage that should be in some FAQ people get thrown when joining.
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L136[15:45:31] <Amanda> liek anybody reads those
L137[15:49:21] <dequbed> %slap Amanda with E.A.Q document
L138[15:49:21] <MichiBot> deq​ubed is trying to slap Ama​nda! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L139[15:50:36] <DaCompu​terNerd> can you slap with anything or only things michibot has in their inventory
L140[15:50:45] <Forec​aster> anything
L141[15:51:05] <DaCompu​terNerd> neat
L142[15:52:34] <Train​fan91> does ANYONE know HOW this works??https://www.marseilleinc.com/mclassic/
L143[15:53:03] <Train​fan91> i mean from coding perspective... lol
L144[15:53:24] <dequbed> @Trainfan91 the answer is yes.
L145[15:54:16] <Forec​aster> statistically likely
L146[15:54:31] <ThePi​Guy24> yes i would imagine that atleast 1 person knows how it works
L147[15:55:04] <Inari> "no lag"
L148[15:55:19] <dequbed> Inari: Its the US they can lie on ads :P
L149[15:55:26] <Inari> It's not something new, those things have existed for SNES and the like
L150[15:55:45] <ThePi​Guy24> mmm yes capitalism
L151[15:55:51] <Train​fan91> i MEAN if i were to make something similar what would it take
L152[15:55:58] <dequbed> AHAHAHAHAAHA
L153[15:56:03] <dequbed> More than you have.
L154[15:56:10] <Inari> "Lag time less than 1ms with all the processing above."
L155[15:56:11] <Inari> so there is lag
L156[15:56:12] <Inari> aha!
L157[15:57:48] <Train​fan91> i have theory: yoshi is al capone b4 arrest:
L158[15:57:50] <Train​fan91> https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/al-capone
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L160[15:58:58] <Train​fan91> https://tinyurl.com/y2stwjga
L161[16:04:10] <Amanda> %parry
L162[16:04:10] <MichiBot> Amanda failed to parry dequbed wielding E.A.Q document. With a 5 vs 12 Amanda takes the full 2 damage.
L163[16:12:53] <Ecm​aXp> i'm tooooooo busy 😦
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L166[16:55:26] <Forec​aster> %sip
L167[16:55:27] <MichiBot> You drink a smooth emerald potion (New!). As Forecaster drinks the potion they seem to have become magnetic and a Napkin with scribbles on it flies towards them! They fail to evade it with a 1 vs DC 14 and takes 1d​6 => 1 damage.
L168[16:55:47] <Forec​aster> ow D:
L169[16:56:13] * Michiyo sighs
L170[16:56:21] <Michiyo> yaaaay anxiety
L171[16:56:32] <Forec​aster> yayxiety
L172[16:56:36] <Michiyo> I'm a mix between pissed off and scared near crying
L173[16:57:52] <Forec​aster> D:
L174[16:58:25] <Michiyo> I was in a hit and run almost a year ago now. It's been dragging through the courts because of Covid, but recently it's been picking up speed.
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L176[16:59:29] <Michiyo> Today I got a call from the Lawyer of the guy who hit me... wanting me to sign an "Agreement to Compromise" which would basically pay me to make the criminal case go away.
L177[17:00:33] <Michiyo> Dude damn near ran me into oncoming traffic, then drove away. I chased him with the front bumper hanging off and my front fender dragging my tire...
L178[17:01:15] <Michiyo> now ALL that shit, plus the stress of dealing with the DA, and his lawyer..
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L181[17:22:13] <Michiyo> Hi, I'm Michiyo and I murder chats.
L182[17:23:10] <dequbed> Hi Michiyo, I'm dequbed
L183[17:23:34] <dequbed> Anyway /me hugs if you need them otherwise I can offer cookies & hot chocolate
L184[17:24:48] <Michiyo> Thanks
L185[17:24:58] <Forec​aster> I'm dealing with someone's poorly coded asp.net system
L186[17:25:15] <Michiyo> Heeeey I have to deal with one of those too!
L187[17:25:21] <Forec​aster> had to fix an issue to be able to log in so I could start troubleshooting the issue I was supposed to fix
L188[17:25:30] <Michiyo> it REALLY likes to eat 4 cores and just SIT on them.
L189[17:26:02] <Michiyo> I need/want to reimplement it in... anything other than asp.net lol
L190[17:26:24] <Forec​aster> the login issue was the login system passing a uuid for a language to a function that expected a lang code
L191[17:26:35] <Michiyo> o_O
L192[17:26:36] <Michiyo> wow
L193[17:27:06] <Forec​aster> yep, I have no idea how this thing has been working
L194[17:28:18] <Forec​aster> now to debug the actual problem which is "can't update any webpage"
L195[17:28:30] <Forec​aster> and I just tried it and now the page I updated is missing? oO
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L197[17:29:13] <Forec​aster> oh, it assigned a language to it, none of the other pages have a language set, I see
L198[17:29:30] <Forec​aster> I have a feeling this language system is stapled on and is causing various issues
L199[17:29:55] <Forec​aster> there's no language select thing in the page editor
L200[17:30:34] <Vexaton> I am dealing with an input format written in 1990
L201[17:30:47] <Vexaton> with no documentation other than a mailing list that stopped in 2002
L202[17:31:01] <Vexaton> and all my questons existing on it without answers
L203[17:31:13] <Michiyo> Ooof.
L204[17:31:17] <Forec​aster> okay, so there's a default language which all the other pages have, setting the page back to that in the database fixes it
L205[17:31:31] <Vexaton> we paid three thousand euros for this program, by the way
L206[17:32:07] <Forec​aster> at least it didn't cost an arm and a leg
L207[17:32:19] <Forec​aster> just some sanity
L208[17:32:21] <Vexaton> it was part of the grant
L209[17:32:24] <Vexaton> but still
L210[17:32:43] <Vexaton> I am slowly considering whether losing an arm would be less painful
L211[17:33:02] <Vexaton> my favourite stack trace:
L212[17:33:03] <Vexaton> ERROR IN QEXIT: ACTIVE=TWOEL CALLED WITH
L213[17:33:06] <Vexaton> that's it
L214[17:33:25] <Vexaton> very descriptive error
L215[17:34:26] <Michiyo> it threw in the... Twoel :P
L216[17:34:35] <Michiyo> it works if you are dyslexic.
L217[17:35:46] <Vexaton> holy shit
L218[17:35:49] <Vexaton> I got a result
L219[17:35:52] <Vexaton> after an entire day again
L220[17:40:34] <Forec​aster> well, I just called the client to discuss these issues and he'd forgotten he sent the page editing thing and thought it was only about the login thing apparently...
L221[17:40:48] <Forec​aster> so uh, that was fun
L222[17:41:23] <Forec​aster> one result per day sounds like a fine amount
L223[17:42:54] <Michiyo> Totally
L224[17:42:58] <Vexaton> this isn't even results
L225[17:43:05] <Vexaton> this is just test results to get the program to work at all
L226[17:43:10] <Vexaton> been sitting on that since wednesday
L227[17:43:12] *** Vexaton is now known as Vexatos
L228[17:44:13] <Ariri> Inari, haha Klee go zzzooom -pop! zooommmmm hehe wOww~
L229[18:01:02] <Forec​aster> hacks applied, work complete
L230[18:15:00] <Forec​aster> oh boy, threat 5 had a cyclops ship...
L231[18:15:09] <Forec​aster> those are tough
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L236[19:07:26] <Inari> Ariri: Klee too cute
L237[19:07:26] <Inari> want
L238[19:09:54] <Forec​aster> %sip
L239[19:09:55] <MichiBot> You drink a ripe diamond potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a redstone fox girl until the next time they hug someone.
L240[19:10:03] <Inari> %pet Ariri
L241[19:10:03] <MichiBot> Inari is brushing Ariri with pictures of a sleeping bear-girl Inari. Ariri regains 1d6 => 6 hit points! Turns out pictures of a sleeping bear-girl Inari's weakness was common water all along!
L242[19:10:11] <Inari> wait what
L243[19:10:49] <Forec​aster> haha
L244[19:12:03] * Inari glares at Amanda
L245[19:12:21] * Amanda whistles innocently
L246[19:14:05] <Inari> can cats even whistle
L247[19:14:12] <Amanda> who knows!
L248[19:27:07] <Sap​hire> Vexaton: so uh
L249[19:27:19] <Sap​hire> ...how much would it cost to just write it from scratch?
L250[19:28:43] <Forec​aster> half a leg
L251[19:29:12] <Vexatos> @saphire about thirty years of work?
L252[19:32:12] <Sap​hire> ...uhhh
L253[19:32:19] <Sap​hire> What does it do
L254[19:32:53] <Vexatos> quantum chemistry
L255[19:33:29] <Inari> sounds fun
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L257[19:56:51] <eBrosTV> lol
L258[19:56:54] <eBrosTV> :D
L259[19:57:06] <eBrosTV> irc chat on minecraft
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L261[19:59:52] <Webchat063> hi
L262[20:06:16] <eBr​osTV> hi
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L265[20:35:28] <Saphire> Vexatos: ...
L266[20:35:33] <Saphire> Why did you not get like
L267[20:35:37] <Saphire> Wait
L268[20:35:38] <Saphire> Nvm
L269[20:35:42] <Saphire> You got sources, right?
L270[20:35:46] <Vexatos> what no
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L272[20:39:30] <Ar​iri> %tonk ?
L273[20:39:31] <MichiBot> Fudge! Ar​iri! You beat ThePi​Guy24's previous record of 7 hours, 14 minutes and 12 seconds (By 1 hour, 17 minutes and 46 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L274[20:39:32] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 8 hours, 31 minutes and 59 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.0104 (0.0013 x 8) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #9. Need 0.17296 more points to pass simo​n816!
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L276[20:40:25] <eBr​osTV> Hi
L277[20:41:06] <eBrosLP> Nice Mod
L278[20:42:37] <eBrosLP> ;D
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L280[21:12:26] <dequbed> Saphire: If sources would help I would be less safely employed. "Having the source" generally doesn't help as much as one would hope.
L281[21:13:47] <dequbed> There are companies whos sole business is building compilers for the thousands of mutually incompatible C-derivations companies have built their entire infrastructure on. We're talking "emulating specific bugs from 40 years old code" here, not like "just throw gcc at it lol".
L282[21:15:06] <CompanionCube> so not just Microsoft-tier, IBM-tier?
L283[21:15:14] <dequbed> Something as insignificant as doing a patchversion upgrade of your compiler could mean several hundred if not thousands of compilation errors in your billion+ LoC software much of which was written before you were born where the original developers are unavailable, mentally unstable or deceased.
L284[21:15:44] <dequbed> Or even worse - it could mean compilation success but subtle differences in generated code means new bugs sprout in places you never thought of.
L285[21:17:47] <dequbed> Combine that with the tendency of hacks, botches and hotfixes to be enshrined in production code and the utter lack of comment - both of which come from a misguided ideal of "productivity" in software - and you get out a nearly unmaintable mess of code that yet equates to your companies core infrastructure software that must not fail.
L286[21:18:14] <dequbed> CompanionCube: Depends. What do you mean with MS-Tier/IBM-tier?
L287[21:19:24] <CompanionCube> as in, more committed to backwards compat than MS is with Windows
L288[21:20:57] <dequbed> Well yes, backwards compatible on IBM tier. But it's not really about compatability. Its just that sometimes people update their hardware because it's hard to get speedy Alpha CPUs these days. And when your software was originally written for PowerPC, Alpha, SPARC or what have you and you now move to x86, ... well you better hope there's a compiler that can actually compile your code.
L289[21:21:50] <CompanionCube> you missed itanium, or was that too unpopular to be used? badum-tish
L290[21:22:11] <dequbed> No I did not. There are speedy Itanium CPUs available.
L291[21:23:31] <dequbed> Well technically there are speedy SPARC cpus. Yes I did miss Itanium, apparently I have successfully wiped that architecture from my mind.
L292[21:24:38] <CompanionCube> really the odd one out is alpha
L293[21:24:58] <CompanionCube> unless there's something wrong IBM's modern POWER cpus
L294[21:33:25] <dequbed> Nothing wrong per se but the POWER ISA chips are not fully compatible between each other
L295[21:36:23] <dequbed> In general the most stable approach is to add a level of indirection between the specific hardware and the software running on it. This is what any modern mainframe does to great effect, that's what makes x86 so long term stable, that's why I think WINE is going to completely change up how we think about gaming and how we apply it.
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L297[21:50:21] <CompanionCube> that's how IBM designed their midrange system in the 70s/80s
L298[21:51:55] <CompanionCube> and then proceeded to use it to change the underlying hardware from custom to tweaked POWER
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L301[23:06:44] <saladbin> hello
L302[23:08:41] <CompanionCube> hello
L303[23:09:02] <saladbin> irc in minecraft goes brrrrrr
L304[23:11:45] <saladbin> close
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L308[23:41:27] <Ko​dos> %redshell CompanionCube
L309[23:41:28] <MichiBot> Ko​dos: Unfortunately you missed with a 2 vs 14.
L310[23:41:33] <Ko​dos> Welp
L311[23:41:46] <Ko​dos> Anyone have an active dev environment for MC 1.16.3?
L312[23:41:56] <CompanionCube> how many do you have atm? i have feeling you tried before
L313[23:42:05] <Ko​dos> That was my last one iirc
L314[23:42:06] <Ko​dos> %shellcount
L315[23:42:07] <MichiBot> Ko​dos: You have 0 Blue Shells, 0 Red Shells, and 5 Green Shells
L316[23:42:16] <CompanionCube> last one, rip
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