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<bad at
vijya> so
L2[00:07:14]
<bad at
vijya> slowly getting my cpio util together
L3[00:08:25] <grantlmul> whats the font for
opencomputers
L4[00:09:11]
<Carlen
White> Finally done with that, finally
L5[00:09:38]
<Carlen
White> Calculus that is.
L6[00:09:43]
<Carlen
White> Other problems, later
L7[00:23:46]
<Ocawesome101> grantlmul: OC uses funscii,
which is a slightly modified version of unscii-16
L10[00:34:37]
<bad at
vijya> i use unifont btw
L11[00:50:58]
<ThePiGuy24> oh perkele my bios os over
4k
L12[00:51:03]
<ThePiGuy24> *is
L13[00:51:33]
<ThePiGuy24> yes ik i can use the
opensecurity writer thingy for more capacity but i want this to
work on vanilla oc
L14[00:53:32]
<Ocawesome101> minify
L15[00:53:42]
<ThePiGuy24> hmm
L16[00:53:59]
<ThePiGuy24> do you know of any minifiers
that can run on an oc computer?
L17[00:54:41]
<Ocawesome101> no
L19[00:59:24]
<ThePiGuy24> its only 141 bytes above 4k
atm, can manually minify for now
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<ThePiGuy24> makes debugging a pain
though
L22[01:04:50]
<ThePiGuy24> error on line 1, followed by
error on line 1, followed by error on line 1...
L23[01:08:01]
<SkyCrafter0> so the size of an eeprom is
4kb?
L24[01:13:15]
<ThePiGuy24> correct
L25[01:16:39]
<DaComputerNerd> using a minifying program
lets you keep a non-minified copy elsewhere, and then you can keep
minifying it whenever you want to run it
L26[01:46:40] <Izaya> CarlenWhite: tl;dr
NAT mangles packets and keeps tables of connection:local address in
memoty
L27[01:46:44] <Izaya> Memory*
L28[01:47:02] <Izaya> UDP NAT is cursed and
we don't talk about it
L29[01:51:20]
<BrianH>
@Carlen White Calculus is easy
L30[01:51:23]
<BrianH>
Algebra is hard
L31[01:52:05]
<Carlen
White> ...Yeah considering I got ground into a fine powder from
Alegbra, that is kinda true.
L32[01:52:42]
<BrianH> A
lot of people complain about calculus and it's 99% of the time that
the algebra is annoying af
L33[01:52:48]
<Carlen
White> Calculus in this case just feels like a chore.
L34[01:53:29]
<Carlen
White> Mostly because of keeping track of the work and writing
where you are in the work so you don't loose track.
L36[01:54:52]
<BrianH> oh
this is fun
L37[01:55:09]
<DaComputerNerd> at least for my teachers,
the level of work could be less
L38[01:55:22]
<DaComputerNerd> for instance, they were
fine with skipping the step of having and removing multiplications
by 1 or -1
L39[01:55:51]
<Carlen
White> I typically like to keep track of where I am, and mostly
because I have a distrust of my memory.
L40[01:55:55]
<DaComputerNerd> before long they were
fine with not writing out the derivatives into it and just doing
them directly
L41[01:58:40]
<BrianH> I
hate it when they write it out like this
L42[01:58:47]
<BrianH>
instead of seeing f'(x) = blah
L43[01:58:55]
<BrianH>
I'd rather see f(x) = integral blah
L44[01:58:59]
<BrianH>
it's more clear
L45[01:59:28]
<Carlen
White> I'm a touch fried; integral?
L46[01:59:35]
<BrianH>
yeah
L47[02:00:34]
<BrianH> so
without going into the derivative equation.. you know what the
derivative can be in siomple terms rightr?
L48[02:00:45]
<BrianH>
take a look at y = mx + b
L49[02:00:51]
<Carlen
White> Also this is my own work so blame goes to me on how it's
written, but it's how I read it.
L50[02:01:05]
<Carlen
White> Also this is my own work so blame goes to me on how it's
written, but it's how I parsed through it. [Edited]
L51[02:01:12]
<BrianH>
this can be changed to appear more familiar in calculus as the
differential equation:
L52[02:01:17]
<BrianH>
f(x) = dy/dx + C
L53[02:01:30]
<BrianH>
they're both the same
L54[02:02:04]
<Carlen
White> I've recognized it generating a slope at an `x` point for
a graph.
L55[02:02:24]
<BrianH> a
derivative is instantaneous change, while the integral is defined
as the area underneath a function, which, reverses the
derivative.
L56[02:04:09]
<Carlen
White> Checking my notes, it's either not been covered yet or on
the physical guide.
L57[02:04:19]
<BrianH> so
f'(x) = 1, just integrate both sides and you get f(x) = x + C
L58[02:04:51]
<BrianH>
So
L59[02:05:15]
<BrianH>
the thing about integrals is that they are more difficult to work
with, but they're easier to think about than derivatives most of
the time
L60[02:05:32]
<BrianH>
also, let me blow your mind for a minute.
L61[02:06:03]
<BrianH>
imagine you plot your position on a graph of where you are located
at what time in terms of distance to somewhere, say the
store.
L62[02:06:23]
<BrianH>
take the derivative of that and you end up with a function that
given any time will give you the acceleration you had at that
point
L63[02:06:24]
<BrianH>
🙂
L64[02:06:46]
<BrianH>
then, take the derivative of that, and you will end up with a new
function that tells you the acceleration you had at any time.
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<BrianH>
the integral does the reverse
L66[02:07:20]
<BrianH>
the integral of acceleration gives the graph of velocity, while
integrating velocity gives your position.
L67[02:07:39]
<Carlen
White> Interesting...
L68[02:07:49]
<BrianH>
yep. Calculus physics makes physics MUCH easier
L69[02:08:30]
<Carlen
White> Actually, this might've been mentioned but sometimes the
stuff goes over my head while I'm still busy processinge everything
else.
L70[02:08:39]
<BrianH>
lol
L71[02:08:46]
<Carlen
White> Actually, this might've been mentioned but sometimes the
stuff goes over my head while I'm still busy processing everything
else. [Edited]
L72[02:11:31]
<Carlen
White> Hm. I'm sure there's a way to start the process because
I've been used to calculating a deriviative of a equation, not a
function that indexes a table.
L73[02:12:38]
<Carlen
White> I say this and realize, derp, you can still figure this
with formulas already understood.
L74[02:13:44]
<Carlen
White> afaik `ΔDistance/ΔTime` between two points.
L75[02:14:07]
<Carlen
White> But if the postion was a equation (somehow) then yeah
that'd work.
L76[02:14:26]
<Carlen
White> Or maybe there's a deeper concept to this that I'm too
tired to process right now.
L77[02:19:09]
<Carlen
White> But I can see how that if you get your accel between
point A and B in time, you can reconstruct your velocity then your
position.
L78[02:19:44]
<Carlen
White> The use of which I can see (map without GPS and only the
accelorometor)
L79[02:36:48]
<BrianH>
you will find that IRL
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<BrianH>
most things you will be working with are just data
L81[02:37:01]
<BrianH>
and not functions
L82[02:37:25]
<BrianH>
most integrals you will ever find are not solvable with the current
technology we have in mathematics.
L83[02:38:00]
<BrianH>
not without sampling a Riemann's sum instead.
L84[02:39:04]
<BrianH>
Its sad but true, math professors will throw you hundreds of
integrals, but in the real world, 99% of integrals are not
currently solvable.
L85[02:41:49]
<BrianH>
aka they have no solution
L86[02:41:51] <Michiyo> Lizzy, can confirm
just got an automated email that didn't yell at me about spoofing
my gmail :p
L88[02:44:27]
<ThePiGuy24> not sure why it dies in
io
L89[02:48:00]
<ThePiGuy24> eh is sleep time
L90[03:10:56]
<Ocawesome101> @ThePiGuy24 is that MuerkOS
or whatever it's called?
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<Nathan - Car
Gang> does anyone know if the devs would mind if it tried to
port OC?
L93[03:31:51]
<Ocawesome101> (a) no they would not and
(b) i think someone already made an unsuccessful effort
(unsuccessful at least in part because they removed most of the
Scala, which is what makes OC tick)
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<Nathan - Car
Gang> ok well i might just start from the 1.12 version so i know
whats going on
L96[03:33:17] <grantlmul> i tried going to
sleep 2 hours ago and i dont think ive actually slept
L97[03:33:25]
<Ocawesome101> yeah
L98[03:33:27]
<Ocawesome101> ouch
L99[03:33:37]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> though i will mostly end up rewriting the scala into
java
L100[03:33:40]
<Ocawesome101> fwiw payonel is the main
developer at this point if you have questions
L101[03:33:49]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> ok
L102[03:34:10]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> ill do it tomorrow going to finish some stuff then go to
bed
L103[03:34:12]
<Ocawesome101> also fair warning, the
native libraries if you end up needing to recompile them are a pain
in the backside
L104[03:34:19]
<Ocawesome101> (to compile, that is)
L105[03:34:24]
<Nathan - Car
Gang> how so?
L106[03:35:13]
<Ocawesome101> they use a weird
overcomplicated gradle-based build system, or something like
that
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<Nathan - Car
Gang> hmm ok ill look into it
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<Nathan - Car
Gang> thank you
L110[03:38:58]
<Ocawesome101> np
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L112[04:06:18] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L113[04:06:18] <MichiBot> Awesome!
CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 4 hours,
54 minutes and 48 seconds (By 1 hour, 52 minutes and 40 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L114[04:06:19] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
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also gained 0.0094 (0.00188 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #1.
L115[04:06:24] <CompanionCube> wow
L116[04:07:11] <Ariri> heck I forgot
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L122[05:41:24]
<bad at
vijya> time to continue my cpio util quest
L123[05:46:12] <Amanda> Oh hey
L124[05:46:27] <Amanda> It's oh goddesses
why o'clock
L125[05:46:34] <Amanda> Guess I should
sleep
L126[05:47:02] *
Amanda tucks in around elfi, weary of any threats, zzzmews once
she's determined it's safe
L127[05:47:08] <Amanda> Night nerds
L128[06:15:58]
<ThePiGuy24> @Ocawesome101 no its a custom
bios to load OSes straight from the internet over http
L129[06:16:33]
<ThePiGuy24> from the oc repo on this case
(openos)
L130[06:29:22] <Izaya> Fixed Firefox
(Fennec)
L132[06:29:57]
<bad at
vijya> wot
L133[06:30:13] <Izaya> Mozilla broke
Android firefox
L134[06:30:16] <Izaya> you may have
heard
L135[06:30:18]
<bad at
vijya> [x] nice
L136[06:30:19] <Izaya> > 6 addons
L137[06:30:24] <Izaya> so I fixed it
L138[06:30:25]
<bad at
vijya> how the fuck did they do it
L139[06:30:29] <Izaya> they uh
L140[06:30:31] <Izaya> replaced the
engine
L141[06:30:36] <Izaya> so now it's
slower
L142[06:30:40]
<bad at
vijya> i
L143[06:30:41] <Izaya> oh also the UI is
all animations
L144[06:30:42]
<bad at
vijya> see
L145[06:30:43] <Izaya> so it's
slower
L146[06:30:50] <Izaya> and also
L147[06:30:53]
<bad at
vijya> what's funny is
L148[06:30:53] <Izaya> no addons
L149[06:31:02] <Izaya> so anyway
L150[06:31:07]
<bad at
vijya> fennec ended up working better on one of my phones
lmao
L151[06:31:09]
<bad at
vijya> only one
L152[06:31:18] <Izaya> enable the F-Droid
Archive repo, install the sane version
L153[06:31:36]
<bad at
vijya> it's the one that has a fucking broken headphone
jack
L154[06:31:47]
<bad at
vijya> ~~also the only one that has cell service~~
L155[06:32:02]
<bad at
vijya> oh hey
L156[06:32:03]
<bad at
vijya> izaya
L157[06:32:06]
<bad at
vijya> i have some
L158[06:32:06] <Izaya> I don't feel
comfortable using an official Mozilla release
L159[06:32:09]
<bad at
vijya> wonderful code for you
L160[06:34:04] <Izaya> OH
L161[06:34:07] <Izaya> also
L162[06:34:09] <Izaya> you can't disable
pocket
L163[06:34:17] <Izaya> because it's part
of the browser now, not a pre-installed addon
L164[06:35:05]
<ThePiGuy24> can confirm that current
android firefox is slow as shit
L165[06:35:20]
<bad at
vijya> huh
L166[06:35:41]
<ThePiGuy24> and it also looks like shit
compared to the older versions
L167[06:35:52] <Izaya> gotta love the
stuttery animations, eh?
L168[06:38:00] <Izaya> additionally
L169[06:38:06] <Izaya> thanks mozilla for
fucking my configuration
L170[06:38:21] <Izaya> didn't even bother
to import anything, not that I could have used it now
L171[06:39:33]
<!0§A.pjals™> just use chrome at this
point
L172[06:40:01] <Izaya> no
L173[06:40:08]
<!0§A.pjals™> why
L174[06:40:13] <Izaya> ignoring that it
won't work on my phone anyway, fuck google especially
L175[06:40:24]
<!0§A.pjals™> k
L176[06:40:28] <Izaya> mozilla pisses me
off but at least they're relatively harmless
L177[06:44:12] <Izaya> hm, that's
inconvenient
L178[06:44:29] <Izaya> mobile firefox (+
related) don't have the about:config option to hide the firefox
sync stuff
L179[06:44:32] <Izaya> oh also
L180[06:44:56] <Izaya> apparently if
you're using actual FF and not Fennec which is slightly better, the
new version has about:config disabled
L181[06:44:58] <Izaya> fucking
L182[06:45:32] <Izaya> > hi yes let's
remove any configuration and addons from our browser literally only
used by people that configure the shit out of it and put more
stickers on it than touring panniers
L183[06:46:30] <Izaya> s/stickers on
it/addons on it than stickers on/
L184[06:46:30] <MichiBot> <Izaya>
> hi yes let's remove any configuration and addons from our
browser literally only used by people that configure the shit out
of it and put more addons on it than stickers on than touring
panniers
L185[06:46:39] <Izaya> close enough
L186[06:52:13]
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L188[07:09:46]
<!0§A.pjals™> angr is the superior airline
theme
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L190[07:18:54]
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L191[07:25:51]
<bad at
vijya> why the fuck statx not working
L192[07:27:01]
<ThePiGuy24> DE brok?
L193[07:27:24]
<bad at
vijya> `util.c:120:6: warning: implicit declaration of function
‘statx’; did you mean ‘stat’?`
L194[07:27:59]
<ThePiGuy24> oh statx not startx
L195[07:28:16]
<bad at
vijya> i need the motherfuckin creation time
L196[07:35:57]
<bad at
vijya> s i g h
L197[07:36:20]
<bad at
vijya> i had to add `-DGNUSOURCE` to the gcc invocation
L198[07:38:49]
<ThePiGuy24> just include evety library
until it works
L199[07:39:42]
<bad at
vijya> man
L200[07:39:44]
<bad at
vijya> i love hacks
L201[07:39:51]
<bad at
vijya> `ptr[strlen(ptr)-1] = 0;`
L202[07:39:56]
<bad at
vijya> because getline returns the newline
L203[07:49:26]
<ThePiGuy24> do not cursed
L204[07:49:47] <dequbed> @"bad at
vijya" hi yes have you heard C is cursed.
L205[07:49:55]
<bad at
vijya> yes
L206[07:49:57]
<bad at
vijya> i have
L207[07:50:25] <dequbed> `_GNU_SOURCE` is
like .. one of the *least* cursed things out there. Unless you're a
compiler engineer in which case it's probably the most
cursed.
L208[07:50:30]
<bad at
vijya> i'm trying to figure out why the fuck `&formats[i]`
is returning a pointer to 0x1
L209[07:50:42]
<bad at
vijya> oh, it's not cursed. i'm just annoyed.
L210[07:51:27]
<ThePiGuy24> increment the pointer to
break shit
L211[07:51:36]
<bad at
vijya> ???
L212[07:52:31]
<bad at
vijya> ah okay
L213[07:52:33]
<bad at
vijya> here we go
L214[07:52:40]
<bad at
vijya> "unknown format cpio64"
L215[07:52:42]
<bad at
vijya> ...
L216[07:52:45]
<bad at
vijya> OH
L217[07:52:53]
<bad at
vijya> !strcmp
L218[07:52:55]
<bad at
vijya> i need that
L219[07:56:10]
<bad at
vijya> okay
L220[07:56:14]
<bad at
vijya> now we're getting somewhere
L221[07:57:16]
<bad at
vijya> "file name is not null terminated"
L222[07:57:17]
<bad at
vijya> wot
L223[07:58:02]
<bad at
vijya> ohhhh
L224[07:58:05]
<bad at
vijya> i see what's wrong
L225[07:58:06]
<bad at
vijya> lmao
L226[07:58:16]
<ThePiGuy24> just replace the byte after
the string with null, fuck whatever is there alreafy
L227[07:59:11]
<bad at
vijya> oh boy
L228[07:59:19]
<bad at
vijya> segfault on leadout
L229[08:00:03] <dequbed> At least the
pseudo-standarization on x86/ARM made sure that the absolute
garbagefire that is C which is accidentally supporting our entire
digital infrastructure will not happen in the same capacity
again.
L230[08:00:58]
<bad at
vijya> so
L231[08:01:01]
<bad at
vijya> as it turns out
L232[08:01:13]
<bad at
vijya> i forgot to actually set the `leadout` member of the
format struct
L233[08:01:15]
<bad at
vijya> godtier
L234[08:02:56]
<bad at
vijya> oh
L235[08:03:00]
<bad at
vijya> i forgot to write the file data
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<bad at
vijya> fixed alignment issues :)
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L240[09:24:28] <Ariri> >uses an ann to
upscale and denoise an emote for a anime gacha game
L241[09:24:36] <Ariri> The marvels of
technology
L242[09:40:14] *
dequbed slaps Ariri with the Apollo Guidance Computer
L243[09:40:38]
<ThePiGuy24> cthunk
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<bad at
vijya> wtf is going wrong with this
L248[10:04:29]
<bad at
vijya> how is namesize 0
L249[10:05:27]
<!0§A.pjals™> i have no idea
L250[10:05:46]
<!0§A.pjals™> but for some reason ctrl+c
terminated the program
L252[10:06:17]
<!0§A.pjals™> nice
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L254[10:09:29] <grantlmul> @"bad at
vijya" what are you doing
L255[10:09:45]
<bad at
vijya> trying to make a cpio util lmao
L256[10:09:48]
<bad at
vijya> reading from a file
L257[10:11:44]
<bad at
vijya> oh neat
L258[10:11:47]
<bad at
vijya> bless broke
L260[10:12:57]
<bad at
vijya> dunno why my util is fuckin choking
L261[10:15:13]
<bad at
vijya> huh
L262[10:15:19]
<bad at
vijya> it's not copying the stuff to the buffer
L263[10:18:27]
<bad at
vijya> yeah
L264[10:18:31]
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vijya> wtf
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<bad at
vijya> i
L267[10:26:44]
<bad at
vijya> what even is going on here
L269[10:34:43] <grantlmul> could i help
😳️👉️👈️
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<bad at
vijya> well i finally got something other than repeating
garbage
L272[10:38:57]
<bad at
vijya> now i have rng garbage
L273[10:39:12] <grantlmul> ...can i?
L274[10:40:46]
<bad at
vijya> well
L275[10:40:48]
<bad at
vijya> as it turns out
L276[10:41:01]
<bad at
vijya> i had to cast the pointer to the struct to `void *`
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L278[10:59:40] <grantlmul> i keep thinking
up new things to do but then its like
L279[10:59:43] <grantlmul> ...nah
L280[11:03:00]
<bad at
vijya> why the fuck does this compile in GCC but not in
clang
L281[11:03:10] <grantlmul> uhhh
L282[11:03:11] <Izaya> GNU
extensions
L283[11:03:13]
<bad at
vijya> [screams of rage]
L284[11:03:14] <grantlmul> can i
help
L285[11:03:21]
<bad at
vijya> IT'S NOT EVEN GNU EXTENSIONS
L286[11:03:23] <Izaya> congratulations,
you accidentally wrote a non-portable program
L287[11:03:23]
<bad at
vijya> i think
L288[11:03:33] <grantlmul> please
L289[11:03:38]
<bad at
vijya> clang screams at me with `error: initializer element is
not a compile-time constant`
L290[11:04:07] <grantlmul> like a github
repo or something i can clone?
L291[11:04:28]
<bad at
vijya> not atm because i'm fighting the compiler to do what i
want
L292[11:04:39]
<bad at
vijya> wait a fucking second
L293[11:04:44]
<bad at
vijya> i didn't check alignment
L294[11:05:35] <Izaya> PC Load
Letter
L295[11:06:55]
<bad at
vijya> ah yes
L296[11:07:16]
<bad at
vijya> `muid = 65536031, mgid = 65536000,`
L297[11:07:19]
<bad at
vijya> nothing seems wrong hee
L298[11:07:21]
<bad at
vijya> *here
L299[11:07:35]
<bad at
vijya> if bless was working, this would be a lot easier to
diagnose
L300[11:09:07]
<grantlmul>
let me help :uhhh:
L301[11:09:29] <Izaya> isn't bless a util
for making partitions bootable on machines with ofw?
L302[11:09:48] <grantlmul> that and a hex
editor
L304[11:11:07] <Izaya> in typical Apple
fashion, hasn't been updated in years
L305[11:12:00] <Izaya> not as old as their
bash though
L306[11:16:41]
<ThePiGuy24> %tonk
L307[11:16:42] <MichiBot> Dogast!
ThePiGuy24! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 6 hours,
47 minutes and 29 seconds (By 22 minutes and 54 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L308[11:16:43] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new
record is 7 hours, 10 minutes and 23 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also
gained 0.00266 (0.00038 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #5. Need 0.17174056 more points to pass Lizzy!
L309[12:04:34] <Amanda> Izaya: I thought
that apple released their oss stuff as a series of svn repositories
on a domain they control? That might have been an unofficial
mirror. Granted, it's also not exactly shocking if stuffs out of
date, they've not been subtle in trying to make people use their
mac app store and suxh
L310[12:05:41] <Izaya> That explains why
it's so recently (relatively) updated
L311[12:06:00] <Izaya> Commits are only 4
years old because it's an import
L312[12:09:56]
<SkyCrafter0> %tonk
L313[12:09:57] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
SkyCrafter0, you were not able to beat ThePiGuy24's record of 7
hours, 10 minutes and 23 seconds this time. 53 minutes and 14
seconds were wasted! Missed by 6 hours, 17 minutes and 9
seconds!
L314[12:10:04]
<SkyCrafter0> bruhv
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L321[12:46:15] <dequbed> Why is it that
everytime I design electronics it always ends up overengineered? I
need to switch a simple power MOSFET and by this time I'm 3
MOSFETs, a BJT, a power sensing subsystem, voltage limiting diodes
in and have done the maths to rate everything for 2kHz switching
speed <.<
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L325[13:22:02]
<!0§A.pjals™> ah yes
L326[13:22:04]
<!0§A.pjals™> vexaton
L327[13:38:10] <Lizzy> dequbed, meanwhile
i've worked out why my LED strip didn't work under a full-white
setting
L328[13:38:58] <Lizzy> the PSU i had
powering it could only do 25w max, the whole strip (going by the
amazon page and not taking into account any transmission losses)
uses about 33w
L329[13:41:31] <dequbed> Lizzy: Fun fact
I'm building an LED controller (v2). Do you need a way too
overengineered one? :p
L330[13:44:11] *
Lizzy shrugs
L331[13:45:00] <Lizzy> my last IoT-based
controller thingy died and took the aforementioned 25w PSU with it
so i'm going back to having it Pi controlled and probably being
powered by a spare ATX PSU
L332[13:45:35] <dequbed> Lizzy: Well yes
but do you want /more power/? :p
L333[13:46:13] <Lizzy> I think the 600w
ATX PSU will have more power, so i'm good on that front
L334[13:46:35] <dequbed> I meant on the
controller side :p
L335[13:46:45] <Lizzy> ah, errm, sure i
guess?
L336[13:47:42] <Lizzy> my solution with
the Pi was just gonna be a python script running the gpio
outputs
L337[13:48:22] <dequbed> Yes but I doubt
you'll be providing 33W over GPIO?
L338[13:49:00] <Lizzy> no, the 33W will be
coming from the PSU, the Pi will just be hooking into the same 5v
lines and then providing the data signal
L339[13:49:23] <Lizzy> (my LED strips are
WS2812 based)
L340[13:49:26] <dequbed> Ah okay
L341[13:49:55] <dequbed> Then you don't
need the controller I'm designing. That's for stupid LED strips.
Stupid, but many amperes worth of stupid.
L342[13:50:24] <Lizzy> ah, like the 4-pole
ones that have seperate feeds for red, green and blue?
L343[13:52:21] <dequbed> Well yes kinda.
Put in 24V (or anything you want <60V), and drive 4 output lanes
via 4 GPIO inputs that can be as low as 1V8 relative to (onboard)
GND
L344[13:52:35] <Lizzy> oh cool
L345[13:53:12] <Lizzy> another idea i've
had today but i'm not sure yet if i'll actually implement it, is
taking a picture of whats on my computer, get the approximate
colours at the edges then feed that into some LED strips mounted to
teh back of my monitors
L346[13:53:41] <dequbed> Each lane can do
10A continously, pulsed .. well above 300A the power fets get an
impromptu viking burial.
L347[13:54:00] <Lizzy> lol
L348[13:54:37] <Lizzy> hmm, i wonder what
the 5v standby power is on the ATX PSU i wanna use
L349[13:55:07] <dequbed> And the 10A is
because otherwise the PCB gets warm and soft and icky but if you
change the fuse it's technically fine to 20A, it just goes warm. If
I'd use thicker traces I could get up to 75A but an 18kW controller
sounds like the kind of fun I should stray away from.
L350[13:55:48] <Lizzy> my thinking is to
use a relay (or two, because i think powering the data pin without
the main power pin having power supposedly kills the IC) that work
in such a way that when the strip is fully off, it'll turn off the
ATX supply
L351[13:57:21] <Lizzy> Pi zero is then
powered by the standby power and uses little power
L352[13:57:44] <dequbed> Ah yes don't
power GPIO lanes if you don't provide main power that reverses the
diodes in the IC and releases all the magic smoke.
L353[13:57:59] <dequbed> Also, is the pi
5V rated? I thought not.
L354[13:58:06] <Lizzy> yeah
L355[13:58:08] <Lizzy> well
L356[13:58:14] <Lizzy> internally it uses
3.3v it hink
L357[13:58:20] <Lizzy> but it has 5v
headers
L358[13:58:35] <Lizzy> not sure what the
data lines are, probably 3.3v
L359[13:58:37] <dequbed> But WS2812 can
use 3.3v io anyway, can't they?
L360[13:58:46] <Lizzy> yeah, it's worked
in the past
L361[13:59:34] <Lizzy> i just hope i
didn't break my pi zero the other day when i fed 5v to pin 37
because i had the connector on backwards
L362[13:59:54] <Lizzy> though that was
with the now-damaged psu
L363[14:05:05] <Lizzy> hm, okay. I think i
should be able to power the pi and the "PS ON" relay with
the 5vSB power (need to check power output of that when i can),
then have another relay that'll cut off the data signal when the
PSU is off running off of the Power OK wire, if it works how i
think it does
L364[14:05:09] *
Lizzy goes to wikipedia
L365[14:14:57] <Lizzy> oh, can't use the
power ok line for that purpose
L366[14:15:41] <Lizzy> it only provides
power for a short while to indicate the power is good
L367[14:17:53] <Lizzy> or... wait
L368[14:18:08] <Lizzy> bleh, idk what that
line does
L369[14:19:10] <Lizzy> i guess i can blow
up a relay to test it later
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L391[18:16:43]
<DaComputerNerd> They didnt even try
hiding the phishing on the email
L392[18:16:47]
<DaComputerNerd> Impressive
L393[18:16:57]
<DaComputerNerd> How bad can a phish
be
L394[18:26:24] <Michiyo> damn it, airing
order vs series order sucks.
L395[18:30:23] <Inari> What you
watching
L396[18:30:28] <Michiyo> Sliders
L397[18:33:22] <Michiyo> Ok, I think
sitting Plex to Absolute Numbering for this series has fixed
it.
L398[18:33:48] <Michiyo> Yep
L399[18:36:58]
<Forecaster> I re-order everything to
aired order if I can (if the episodes are combined it's
tricky)
L400[18:39:38] <Michiyo> Meh :P
L401[18:40:43]
<Forecaster> I should enable my renaming
script to do that automatically at some point
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L403[19:03:47]
<Ocawesome101> hmm
L404[19:03:57]
<Ocawesome101> bitwise AND is how one
extracts single bits from a number, right?
L405[19:04:14]
<hilariousppp> yep
L406[19:04:25]
<Ocawesome101> and OR combines them
L407[19:04:39]
<Ocawesome101> ?
L408[19:05:17]
<ThePiGuy24> correct
L409[19:05:36]
<ThePiGuy24> xor selectively inverts
them
L410[19:06:38]
<Ocawesome101> so to say toggle the 5th
bit, `n ~ 2^5`?
L411[19:06:46]
<Ocawesome101> also in Lua `~` is xor
right?
L412[19:07:46]
<ThePiGuy24> yes
L413[19:08:01]
<Ocawesome101> 👍 that'll be useful,
ty
L414[19:08:29]
<ThePiGuy24> its also bitwise not
L415[19:08:59]
<ThePiGuy24> because it wasnt confusing
enough just to have it do one thing :p
L416[19:09:21]
<Ocawesome101> lol
L417[19:13:48]
<Kristopher38> i mean, `-` is both used
for unary negation when there's only one operand and for
subtraction when there are two operands
L418[19:14:13]
<Kristopher38> in most if not all
programming languages
L419[19:14:46]
<Kristopher38> so it's not unusual
L420[19:24:56] <dequbed> And before
somebody comments that that doesn't count because unary negation is
just substraction over the (additive) identity element, bitwise
negation is just XOR over the co-identity element.
L421[19:27:37]
<Forecaster> %sip
L422[19:27:38] <MichiBot> You drink a
slimy red potion (New!). Forecaster feels a sudden surge of static
electricity.
L423[19:27:54]
<Forecaster> %zap dequbed
L424[19:27:54] <MichiBot> Forecaster zaps
dequbed using NASA's GPG Key as a conductor for 1d6 => 2
damage!
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L426[19:32:51]
<Ocawesome101> well
L427[19:32:56]
<Ocawesome101> i'm finally implementing an
OCFS driver
L428[19:33:09]
<Ocawesome101> this thing is
complicated
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L430[19:33:30]
<Ocawesome101> it also might be portable
to OpenFS with some slight modifications
L431[19:33:37]
<bad at
vijya> lol imagine foxfs in linux
L432[19:33:43]
<Ocawesome101> do it
L433[19:33:53] <Vexatos> I bought a new
printer
L434[19:34:07]
<bad at
vijya> new or "new"?
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L436[19:34:07]
<Forecaster> is it tame?
L437[19:34:13] <Vexatos> I can now print
and scan things without having to boot up another computer
L438[19:34:18] <Vexatos> and carrying USB
drives across
L439[19:34:21] <Vexatos> this is
luxurious
L440[19:34:22]
<ThePiGuy24> i just use tar as a
filesystem on some floppies :p
L441[19:34:28]
<Forecaster> that sounds boring
L442[19:34:28]
<bad at
vijya> >tar
L443[19:34:32]
<Forecaster> where's the adventure?
L444[19:34:36] <Vexatos> it even has a LAN
port so it's a network printer now!!!
L445[19:34:36]
<Ocawesome101> i might be able to use OCFS
for things like custom OS-dev if i ever get into that
L446[19:34:43] <Vexatos> I ARRIVED IN THE
MODERN ERA
L447[19:34:44]
<bad at
vijya> [extreme anger]
L448[19:34:57]
<SkyCrafter0> havent printers had ethernet
ports for years?
L449[19:35:01]
<bad at
vijya> tar makes me ANGRY
L450[19:35:08]
<ThePiGuy24> well atleast its not
rar
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<bad at
vijya> look
L453[19:35:22]
<ThePiGuy24> ruskiy archive :p
L454[19:35:30]
<bad at
vijya> i have such a hatred of tar
L455[19:35:37]
<bad at
vijya> that i made cpio64
L457[19:35:51] *
dequbed tar xzf @"bad at vijya"
L458[19:36:19] <Vexatos> @SkyCrafter0 my
old printer was from 2001
L459[19:37:00] <Vexatos> and I think it's
dead now
L460[19:37:32] <Vexatos> it can't scan,
only print
L461[19:37:49] <Vexatos> for scanning I'd
have to go over to my grandparents but that PC is always shut down
so I'd have to boot it up first
L462[19:38:00]
<bad at
vijya> lzcat dequbed | cpio -i
L463[19:40:35] <Inari> Maybe I shoudl try
this blue reflection thing. Seems to be one of the only 3d mahou
shoujo games
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L466[19:40:47] <dequbed> @"bad at
vijya" anyway, that much hate isn't healthy. Tar is a good
format for it's use-case and there's very little wrong with
it.
L467[19:42:21]
<bad at
vijya> ascii headers and 512 byte alignment angers me
L468[19:43:00] <Inari> Tar is good for one
thing
L469[19:43:06] *
Inari massages some tar into Amanda's fur
L470[19:43:10] <Inari> Cleaning
fure!
L471[19:43:12] <Inari> *fur
L472[19:43:13] <Amanda> D:
L473[19:43:17]
<bad at
vijya> fure
L474[19:43:23]
<ThePiGuy24> use ebcdic headers and 511
byte alignment instead
L475[19:43:48]
<Forecaster> I mean, technically when you
remove the tar any dirt and stuff will come with it
L476[19:43:52]
<Forecaster> and also the fur, but
still
L477[19:43:55] <Inari> haha
L478[19:47:07] <dequbed> @"bad at
vijya" cpio uses ASCII headers just as much as tar does and
512 byte alignment is very very sensible for a /tape archive/. And
also reasonably sensible for block devices because you can easier
map the file to continous memory.
L479[19:47:08]
<Forecaster> %sip
L480[19:47:09] <MichiBot> You drink a
fiery citrus potion (New!). A genie appears out of the empty
bottle, turns it into a pie, then vanishes.
L481[19:47:55]
<bad at
vijya> dequbed: i don't touch the ascii formats but the memory
mapping is a fair point
L482[19:52:02] <dequbed> @"bad at
vijya" so what you're actually saying is that you hate both
cpio and tar for daring to use stringy information instead of raw
encoded values despite the fact that it makes parsing and extending
much easier and is completely and utterly irrelevant from a
perfomance perspective. I mean sure, I dislike JSON vs BER as well
so.
L483[19:53:28]
<bad at
vijya> yes, and i'm aware my opinion doesn't really matter
anywaus
L484[19:55:56]
<bad at
vijya> *anyways
L485[19:56:18]
<bad at
vijya> hmm
L486[19:56:26] <dequbed> Nah, your opinion
is just as valid as everybody elses. I just rather dislike when
people get angry about technical choices and shit on other people's
engineering work without taking into consideration that back then
or for them it might have been a valid tradeoff or a valid
decision. And yes, I know I used to do that as well. I hope I've
become better.
L487[19:56:37]
<bad at
vijya> yea
L488[19:56:42]
<bad at
vijya> that's fair
L489[19:57:14]
<bad at
vijya> though now i have an extremely stupid idea
L490[19:58:00] <dequbed> If you'd said
something along the lines of "I dislike the direction tar is
taking with stringy values for strongly structured data when
encoding it as raw values saves on CPU and storage and only loses
extensibility /which original tar never used to begin with/" I
would have said absolutely nothing :p
L491[19:58:26]
<bad at
vijya> kek
L492[19:58:29]
<bad at
vijya> fair enough
L493[20:00:10]
<Forecaster> That feeling when you wanted
to draw but your tablet doesn't work
L494[20:00:25]
<Forecaster> >:
L495[20:03:22]
<bad at
vijya> anyways, had a really stupid idea taking archives using
strings for metadata to it's logical endpoint, where each entry is
more or less an HTTP response :^)
L496[20:05:52]
<bad at
vijya> i love shitposting
L497[20:06:21]
<bad at
vijya> i would say i'll do the thing i just said but i can't
even get my archive util working
L498[20:07:39]
<bad at
vijya> fuck it, i'm just gonna make the lua api, since it seems
to be my inability to C
L499[20:26:46] <Ariri> %tonk ?
L500[20:26:46] <MichiBot> Uh-oh! Ariri!
You beat ThePiGuy24's previous record of 7 hours, 10 minutes and
23 seconds (By 1 hour, 6 minutes and 26 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L501[20:26:47] <MichiBot> Ariri's new
record is 8 hours, 16 minutes and 50 seconds! Ariri also gained
0.00888 (0.00111 x 8) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#9. Need 0.20908 more points to pass simon816!
L502[20:33:22] <simon816> uh-oh!
L503[20:34:27]
<bad at
vijya> yea, doing the format defs and all in lua is gonna be
much easier lmao
L504[20:39:53]
<SkyCrafter0> %tonkleaders
L506[20:40:24]
<SkyCrafter0> %greenshell Skyrat
L507[20:40:24] <MichiBot> SkyCrafter0:
Green Shells can only target within 3 positions ahead of you.
L508[20:40:30]
<SkyCrafter0> ah fuck
L509[20:40:42]
<SkyCrafter0> %greenshell
!0?A.pjals?
L510[20:40:42] <MichiBot> SkyCrafter0:
Green Shells can only target within 3 positions ahead of you.
L511[20:40:48]
<SkyCrafter0> bro what
L513[20:41:07]
<SkyCrafter0> %greenshell exper975
L514[20:41:07] <MichiBot> SkyCrafter0:
Green Shells can only target within 3 positions ahead of you.
L515[20:41:18]
<SkyCrafter0> %greenshell expert975
L516[20:41:18] <MichiBot> SkyCrafter0:
You hit expert975! They lost 0.000273 tonk points which you gain!
Congratulations! Position #28 Need 0.000364 more points to pass
expert975!
L517[20:41:23]
<SkyCrafter0> WHEYYY
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L519[20:44:45] <takipc> :thinking:
L520[20:44:49]
<Forecaster> Note to self: 1. add a
timeout of at least 5 minutes to tonksnipe, 2. Add separate message
for "no such target" error
L521[20:45:17]
<bad at
vijya> so
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L523[20:45:29]
<bad at
vijya> my archive util is just gonna have all formats defined in
lua
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L525[21:27:39] <Michiyo> @SkyCrafter
simple their name isn't '!0?A.pjals?'
L526[21:27:48] <Michiyo> but that is what
gets saved because I fucking hate UTF-8
L527[21:27:57] <Michiyo> and fuck discord
for allowing it.
L528[21:27:58] <Michiyo> :D
L529[21:28:26] <CompanionCube> what's the
alternative to UTF-8 though?
L530[21:29:11]
<bad at
vijya> ShiftJIS
L531[21:29:15]
<bad at
vijya> :^)
L532[21:29:32] <CompanionCube>
UTF-EBCDIC
L533[21:30:07]
<ThePiGuy24> extended-extended-ascii
L534[21:31:44] <Michiyo> UTF-8 is great in
theory, it's horrible in the various implementations.
L535[21:32:12] <Michiyo> Look at UTF-8 and
utf8mb4
L536[21:40:10] <Inari> Not sure why you
need that mb4 thing anyway
L537[21:40:20] <Inari> UTF-8 makes it
clear how many bytes there are fo rthe character
L538[21:42:04] <Michiyo> because MySQL
decided that UTF-8 only needed 3 bytes
L539[21:42:12] <Inari> brilliant
L540[21:42:22] <Michiyo> if you tried to
store a 4byte (100% valid) character it just.. died
L541[21:42:45] <Michiyo> so then instead
of FIXING THAT, the added a NEW encoding that IS NOT the default
for 'utf-8'
L542[21:42:59] <Michiyo> so UTF-8 is
utf8mb3, and then there is utf8mb4..
L543[21:43:02] <Inari> just base64 encode
all messages
L544[21:43:06] <Michiyo> which you have to
STRICTLY specify
L545[21:43:20] <Michiyo> You know I
STRONGLY considered that when logs were SQL still
L546[21:43:26] <Inari> haha
L547[21:46:25] <Inari> would make it hard
to search though
L548[21:46:42]
<Forecaster> %sip
L549[21:46:43] <MichiBot> You drink a
fragrant grass potion (New!). Everything Forecaster says is now in
Wingdings until their next sip of water.
L550[21:46:50]
<Forecaster> Aww
L551[21:50:48] <Michiyo> Just base64
decode EVERY entry and compare it!
L552[21:51:13] <Inari> Performance™
L553[21:51:37] <Michiyo> Eh.. I mean in
the current search I open and scan EVERY file to look for your
search term
L554[21:52:01] <Michiyo> 2,424 files
lol
L555[21:52:07] <Inari> I mean, not sure
how else you'd do it without getting super complicated
L556[21:52:48] <Michiyo> Damn Vex must
have been chatty yesterday, I'm still ~600 lines from 2nd
place
L557[21:53:10] <Inari> %stats
L558[21:53:28] <Michiyo> likely didn't get
re-added after I broke it
L559[21:53:33] <Inari> rip
L560[21:53:45] <Michiyo> %ocstats
L562[21:53:50] <Michiyo> ah, it's
that
L563[21:53:51] <Vexatos> clearly I used
buying a printer as an excuse to keep my lead
L564[21:54:09] <Vexatos> imagine swapping
out a 2001 printer for a 2019 one
L565[21:54:18] <Michiyo> Ew,
printers.
L566[21:54:27] <Ariri> Ew, paper
L567[21:54:41] <Michiyo> Ew, Ew.
L568[21:54:42] <Vexatos> I no longer have
to move a USB drive with documents to a computer I have to boot up
to print something
L569[21:54:43] <Inari> Heyy I'm still kind
ahigh up
L570[21:54:47] <Inari> despite not talking
that much :P
L571[21:54:49] <Vexatos> printers suck but
I need one
L572[21:55:02] <Michiyo> Yes, sadly I do
as well
L573[21:55:13] <Michiyo> I have some
Brother AIO Network printer.
L574[21:55:14] <Vexatos> this one has
automatic document feeding at the top
L575[21:55:16] <Inari> Just use a heat
printer thing
L576[21:55:19] <Vexatos> for hyperspeed
scanning
L577[21:55:21] <Vexatos> very nice
L578[21:55:34] <Vexatos> Inari, a laser
printer?
L579[21:55:36] <Vexatos> or thermal
paper
L580[21:55:38] <Ariri> til the stats have
gender on them
L581[21:55:38] <Inari> no
L582[21:55:42] <Inari> thermal paper,
yeah
L583[21:55:46] <Vexatos> thermal paper
causes cancer :P
L584[21:55:53] <Inari> so does ham
L585[21:55:54] <Michiyo> @Ariri, yep, if
you want to set yours you do so via a git repo
L586[21:55:59] <Vexatos> no like actually
Inari
L587[21:56:07] <Vexatos> if you touch it
too much you will get skin cancer
L589[21:56:18] <Inari> weird
L590[21:56:37] <Ariri> Maybe, but I dont
care much for my or others gender
L591[21:56:38] <Michiyo> I.. might need to
dump out the current one and update the repo
L592[21:57:01] <Ariri> Last time I checked
this I was near the top of almost every statistic for the month
o_O
L593[21:57:06] <Vexatos> dot matrix
printers are the only good type of printer
L594[21:57:13] <Vexatos> but you cannot do
colour prints with them
L595[21:57:14] <Ariri> I talked too much
:P
L596[21:57:18] <Inari> I think I meant
those anyway
L597[21:57:22] <Inari> Don't those use
heat
L599[21:57:27] <Vexatos> also they are
extremely expensive
L600[21:58:04] <Michiyo> you totally CAN
do color with *some* Dot Matrix printers!
L601[21:58:07] <Vexatos> they use pins to
hammer ink from a tape onto the paper
L602[21:58:17] <Inari> I see
L604[21:58:47] <Michiyo> That is a color
DotMatrix ribbon
L605[21:58:49] <Vexatos> they are
extremely good because the ribbons cannot dry out
L606[21:58:55] <Vexatos> unlike ink
L607[21:59:02] <Vexatos> and it cannot
clog up
L608[21:59:05] <Vexatos> unlike laser
printers
L609[21:59:22] <Inari> why so pricey
then
L610[21:59:35] <Vexatos> because there is
no normal consumer market for them
L611[21:59:41]
<Ocawesome101> the only issue i've ever
had with our laserjet cp1025nw is Arch not liking it, at all
L612[21:59:43] <Vexatos> they are only
used in industrial applications these days
L613[21:59:49] <Vexatos> mostly data
logging
L614[22:00:00] <Ariri> >Kicks Received
>17 1 ♀Michiyo ♀Michiyo_ was kicked by Michiyo (Michiyo_)
L615[22:00:02] <Ariri> Hehe
L616[22:00:22] <Vexatos> @Ocawesome101 I
don't have the money for a laser printer sadly
L617[22:00:40]
<Ocawesome101> i see
L618[22:00:47]
<Ocawesome101> neither do i, my parents
bought it :p
L619[22:00:59] <Vexatos> also it needs to
be able to do photos and laser printers aren't exactly good with
those
L620[22:01:10]
<Ocawesome101> hm, yeah, that's entirely
fair
L621[22:01:25]
<Ocawesome101> our printer messes up color
sometimes
L622[22:02:22] <Vexatos> I am mostly hyped
because this one is a network printer so I can just leave it in
standby all day and night and it boots up just enough to print
something whenever I want to from anywhere in the building which is
very nice compared to my previous situation
L623[22:02:35]
<Ocawesome101> ey nice
L624[22:02:57] <Vexatos> I only need to
print something once every couple of weeks
L626[22:03:15] <Vexatos> but I still don't
want to spend 10 minutes on a print each time
L628[22:13:33]
<Ocawesome101> the DNA one is pretty great
too
L630[22:17:20]
</home/cavej376> i've tried running `give
...` command using debug card, but it failed with "you don't
have permission to use this command" error
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L633[22:17:57] <Michiyo> do *you* have
permission to run that command? If so take the debug card and IIRC
Sneak click with it in your hand
L634[22:18:27] <Michiyo> by default the
debug card doesn't have *any* permissions, when you bind it to
yourself it uses your permissions
L635[22:18:43]
</home/cavej376> oh, i didn't know
L636[22:18:56]
</home/cavej376> thank you, it worked
now
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L640[23:15:13] <Amanda> %remindme 12h
sacrafice an apple to satiate the shame
L641[23:15:13] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "sacrafice an apple to satiate the shame" at
10/14/2020 11:15:13 AM
L642[23:15:35] <Amanda> %choose rainbox or
more cubes
L643[23:15:35] <MichiBot> Amanda:
"rainbox", now with 30% fewer deaths caused by
negligence!
L644[23:15:45] *
Amanda eyes MichiBot wearily
L645[23:20:02]
<SkyCrafter0> %tonk
L646[23:20:03] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
SkyCrafter0, you were not able to beat Ariri's record of 8 hours,
16 minutes and 50 seconds this time. 2 hours, 53 minutes and 16
seconds were wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 23 minutes and 34
seconds!
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L648[23:20:59]
<BrisingrAerowing> Twitch is borked again.
I can't load my modpacks.
L649[23:21:08] <SkyCrafter0> f
L650[23:21:11] <SkyCrafter0> use
multimc
L651[23:21:40]
<BrisingrAerowing> I use Twitch to create
and update packs, and symlink them to MultiMC for actual use. I
don't play premade packs.
L652[23:21:52] <SkyCrafter0> fair
enough
L653[23:22:28]
<BrisingrAerowing> And as soon as I posted
that it loaded.
L654[23:22:33]
<BrisingrAerowing> ...
L655[23:22:37] <SkyCrafter0> lol
L656[23:23:26] <Amanda> Amazon is
listening
L657[23:24:38]
<BrisingrAerowing> It's a bit slow, but
it's working. For certain values of working.
L658[23:25:48] <Izaya> funny that amazon
has a near monopoly on mods for a microsoft game
L659[23:26:18]
<BrisingrAerowing> Not for long, as
Overwolf is taking over CF.
L661[23:26:36] <Izaya> ... Wasn't that
like, software for streaming?
L662[23:26:36]
<BrisingrAerowing> Amazon's keeping
Twitch, though.
L663[23:27:00]
<BrisingrAerowing> Twitch bought CF, then
Amazon bought Twitch, and has now sold CF to Overwold.
L664[23:27:05]
<BrisingrAerowing> *Overwolf.
L665[23:27:20]
<BrisingrAerowing> It's a bit of a
mess.
L666[23:27:22] <Izaya> > In June 2020,
Overwolf acquired the CurseForge mod repository, for an undisclosed
sum,[5] from Twitch.[6][7]
L667[23:27:30] <Izaya> I'm unsure how to
feel about this.
L668[23:27:55]
<BrisingrAerowing> Reddit went nuts when
that was announced.
L669[23:28:42] <Izaya> They look to be
independent, but all VC money
L670[23:28:58] <Izaya> (so not really
independent, and in debt)
L671[23:29:20] <Ariri> I remember when
that happened and my confusion was Overwolf still existing, last I
heard of them was nearly a decade ago when they partnered with
FreeJam in Robocraft
L672[23:29:45] <Ariri> No idea what the
company actually does tbh
L673[23:29:58]
<Ocawesome101> oh yeah robocraft
L674[23:30:08]
<Ocawesome101> i bought that like, uh,
maybe a year ago
L675[23:30:12] <Izaya> last I remember
anything about them was when I was streaming KSP stuff from a
shitty laptop while living in brisbane
L676[23:30:15] <Ariri> It was a great
game... until it wasnt
L677[23:30:18]
<Ocawesome101> i have like 40-50 hours on
it lol
L678[23:30:21] <Izaya> that would've been
... 8 years ago?
L679[23:30:47] <Ariri> I have 733 hours in
Robocraft
L680[23:31:03] <Izaya> 124.7 here
L681[23:31:04]
<BrisingrAerowing> Unrelated, but there's
yet another Chocobo mod.
L683[23:31:17] <Ariri> I even tried giving
it a few more tries with the updates, but they changed it yet again
and I lost interest
L684[23:31:22] <Ariri> Freejam murdered
themselves
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L686[23:31:47] <Izaya> at some point I
heard they deleted all the money and changed building
L687[23:31:50] <Izaya> so all my progress
was gone
L688[23:31:58] <Izaya> haven't touched it
since
L689[23:32:22] <Ariri> When they removed
megabots, it was all over
L690[23:32:35] <Ariri> I even made a UFE
Deucalion, and it was beautiul
L691[23:32:53] <Izaya> That would've been
something to see
L692[23:33:19] <Ariri> I had shareX back
then so i might be able to find some screenshots
L693[23:34:17] <Izaya> I remember the
change of having your armour strength decide your robot class made
me give up for a while
L694[23:34:44] <Izaya> glass cannons are
my thing
L695[23:35:03] <Ariri> Then people abused
that and made copter snipers that were barely 20 blocks
L696[23:35:14] <Izaya> Those were
fun
L697[23:35:52] <Izaya> honestly, as long
as you had someone with a sniper they were easy to counter because
they were so weak
L698[23:36:16] <Ariri> True, but if you
didnt have a radar, you couldnt see them at most distances
L699[23:36:19] <Ariri> I wish the timeline
was a bit different, who knows, maybe 2016 wouldnt have been...
2016 if FJ didnt screw over their own game
L700[23:36:56] <Izaya> Were radars in
before the hover snipers got nerfed?
L701[23:36:59] <Izaya> I don't remember
them
L702[23:37:19] <Ariri> Honestly not sure,
some parts are a bit blurry
L704[23:38:15] <Ariri> Also when cpu usage
was inversely proportional to energy, most didnt use rails at lower
tiers
L705[23:38:20]
<Ocawesome101> and now freejam is working
on some other games
L706[23:38:38]
<Ocawesome101> cardlife (haven't seen much
about it for a while) and game-maker or some shit
L707[23:38:54] <Izaya> I seem to remember
them relaxing the "only one weapon type" rule but only
after I stopped playing
L708[23:38:56] <Izaya> >.>
L709[23:39:26] <Ariri> Having multiple
weapons was... interesting
L710[23:39:48] <Izaya> my whole thing was
lightly armoured wheeled or hovering sniper robots
L711[23:41:14]
<Ocawesome101> they have a 3 weapon
loadout now
L712[23:41:31]
<Ocawesome101> with one or two different
types, idk
L713[23:41:36]
<SnailDOS>
That? Ha. That game died on me when I launched it.
L714[23:41:46]
<SnailDOS>
Just a black screen.
L716[23:42:04] <Izaya> that there is peak
aesthetic
L717[23:42:50] <Izaya> ben_mkiv|afk:
thoughts on adding an OC-style half block case to OCDevices?
L718[23:43:07] <Izaya> bonus points for a
compatible half block floppy drive
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L721[23:44:14]
<Ocawesome101> while we're suggesting
things, an all-in-one T1 computer type thing (builtin everything,
except keyboard, looks like a typical all-in-one such as the
Macintosh or the iMac) would be neat
L722[23:44:28] <ben_mkiv|afk> Izaya,
no
L723[23:44:42] <Ariri> It seems like I
might have closed the DM that I know I saw the screenshots of my
Deucalion in recently... for certain reasons- but Ive reinstalled
the game just to see if I exist
L724[23:44:52] <Izaya> fair, figured I'd
ask
L726[23:45:04] <Izaya> there's already the
5150 case which works, it's just not quite the same aesthetic
L727[23:45:10] <ben_mkiv|afk> i think, it
doesnt even work
L728[23:45:17] <ben_mkiv|afk> iirc i've
tried it with the ibm case
L729[23:45:50] <Izaya> I've used the IBM
case before for T1 stuff
L730[23:46:03] <Izaya> because I'm a cheap
bastard and it was cheaper than the normal case
L731[23:46:06]
<Ocawesome101> ben_mkiv|afk: see above
from me if you haven't already :^)
L732[23:47:07] <ben_mkiv|afk> how far
above?
L733[23:47:57]
<Ocawesome101> shortly after izaya's
suggestion
L735[23:49:27] <ben_mkiv|afk> nvm
L736[23:49:32] <ben_mkiv|afk> nah, im not
adding anything to ocdevices
L737[23:49:37] <Ariri> Might want to mute
it, I forgot my music goes through
L738[23:50:20] <ben_mkiv|afk> at least not
in this universe, i probably did in an universe where OC was ported
to current MC versions :P
L739[23:50:43] <Izaya> give it uh
L740[23:50:45] <Izaya> a few years
L741[23:51:20]
<Ocawesome101> i see :P
L742[23:51:43] <Ariri> Damn this game was
fun
L743[23:51:46] <Ariri> Such a shame
L744[23:53:40] <Izaya> wish there was a
mode to mute tabs by default
L745[23:54:02] <Izaya> man that is a nice
robot goddamn
L746[23:56:18] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
today on obvious corruption: a PPE vendor established 7 weeks ago,
using a cookiecutter template and pictures from alibaba got awarded
a government contract
L747[23:56:31] <CompanionCube> not even
trying smh
L748[23:57:25] <Izaya> CompanionCube:
well, yesterday in australian politics: koalakiller, the premier of
NSW, was banging some dude that has been admitting to blatant
corruption for the last several weeks in court
L749[23:58:02] <Ariri> Izaya, if only my
SE designs were half as good as my RC designs were >.>
L750[23:58:55] <Ariri> My current
schematics for just the engines of any of my ships pale in
comparison to the Odette