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L1[00:07:02] <bad at​ vijya> so
L2[00:07:14] <bad at​ vijya> slowly getting my cpio util together
L3[00:08:25] <grantlmul> whats the font for opencomputers
L4[00:09:11] <Carlen​ White> Finally done with that, finally
L5[00:09:38] <Carlen​ White> Calculus that is.
L6[00:09:43] <Carlen​ White> Other problems, later
L7[00:23:46] <Ocawes​ome101> grantlmul: OC uses funscii, which is a slightly modified version of unscii-16
L8[00:24:02] <Ocawes​ome101> magic http://tinyurl.com/y3pgxow4
L9[00:24:10] <Ocawes​ome101> what it actually is http://tinyurl.com/y5ggztwk
L10[00:34:37] <bad at​ vijya> i use unifont btw
L11[00:50:58] <ThePi​Guy24> oh perkele my bios os over 4k
L12[00:51:03] <ThePi​Guy24> *is
L13[00:51:33] <ThePi​Guy24> yes ik i can use the opensecurity writer thingy for more capacity but i want this to work on vanilla oc
L14[00:53:32] <Ocawes​ome101> minify
L15[00:53:42] <ThePi​Guy24> hmm
L16[00:53:59] <ThePi​Guy24> do you know of any minifiers that can run on an oc computer?
L17[00:54:41] <Ocawes​ome101> no
L18[00:55:05] <Ocawes​ome101> https://mothereff.in/lua-minifier works for external stuff, i.e. computer -> pastebin -> minify -> pastebin -> computer
L19[00:59:24] <ThePi​Guy24> its only 141 bytes above 4k atm, can manually minify for now
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L21[01:04:23] <ThePi​Guy24> makes debugging a pain though
L22[01:04:50] <ThePi​Guy24> error on line 1, followed by error on line 1, followed by error on line 1...
L23[01:08:01] <SkyCr​after0> so the size of an eeprom is 4kb?
L24[01:13:15] <ThePi​Guy24> correct
L25[01:16:39] <DaCompu​terNerd> using a minifying program lets you keep a non-minified copy elsewhere, and then you can keep minifying it whenever you want to run it
L26[01:46:40] <Izaya> CarlenWhite: tl;dr NAT mangles packets and keeps tables of connection:local address in memoty
L27[01:46:44] <Izaya> Memory*
L28[01:47:02] <Izaya> UDP NAT is cursed and we don't talk about it
L29[01:51:20] <Bri​anH> @Carlen White Calculus is easy
L30[01:51:23] <Bri​anH> Algebra is hard
L31[01:52:05] <Carlen​ White> ...Yeah considering I got ground into a fine powder from Alegbra, that is kinda true.
L32[01:52:42] <Bri​anH> A lot of people complain about calculus and it's 99% of the time that the algebra is annoying af
L33[01:52:48] <Carlen​ White> Calculus in this case just feels like a chore.
L34[01:53:29] <Carlen​ White> Mostly because of keeping track of the work and writing where you are in the work so you don't loose track.
L35[01:54:34] <Carlen​ White> I'll torture you with more scratch-work. http://tinyurl.com/yylu8htu
L36[01:54:52] <Bri​anH> oh this is fun
L37[01:55:09] <DaCompu​terNerd> at least for my teachers, the level of work could be less
L38[01:55:22] <DaCompu​terNerd> for instance, they were fine with skipping the step of having and removing multiplications by 1 or -1
L39[01:55:51] <Carlen​ White> I typically like to keep track of where I am, and mostly because I have a distrust of my memory.
L40[01:55:55] <DaCompu​terNerd> before long they were fine with not writing out the derivatives into it and just doing them directly
L41[01:58:40] <Bri​anH> I hate it when they write it out like this
L42[01:58:47] <Bri​anH> instead of seeing f'(x) = blah
L43[01:58:55] <Bri​anH> I'd rather see f(x) = integral blah
L44[01:58:59] <Bri​anH> it's more clear
L45[01:59:28] <Carlen​ White> I'm a touch fried; integral?
L46[01:59:35] <Bri​anH> yeah
L47[02:00:34] <Bri​anH> so without going into the derivative equation.. you know what the derivative can be in siomple terms rightr?
L48[02:00:45] <Bri​anH> take a look at y = mx + b
L49[02:00:51] <Carlen​ White> Also this is my own work so blame goes to me on how it's written, but it's how I read it.
L50[02:01:05] <Carlen​ White> Also this is my own work so blame goes to me on how it's written, but it's how I parsed through it. [Edited]
L51[02:01:12] <Bri​anH> this can be changed to appear more familiar in calculus as the differential equation:
L52[02:01:17] <Bri​anH> f(x) = dy/dx + C
L53[02:01:30] <Bri​anH> they're both the same
L54[02:02:04] <Carlen​ White> I've recognized it generating a slope at an `x` point for a graph.
L55[02:02:24] <Bri​anH> a derivative is instantaneous change, while the integral is defined as the area underneath a function, which, reverses the derivative.
L56[02:04:09] <Carlen​ White> Checking my notes, it's either not been covered yet or on the physical guide.
L57[02:04:19] <Bri​anH> so f'(x) = 1, just integrate both sides and you get f(x) = x + C
L58[02:04:51] <Bri​anH> So
L59[02:05:15] <Bri​anH> the thing about integrals is that they are more difficult to work with, but they're easier to think about than derivatives most of the time
L60[02:05:32] <Bri​anH> also, let me blow your mind for a minute.
L61[02:06:03] <Bri​anH> imagine you plot your position on a graph of where you are located at what time in terms of distance to somewhere, say the store.
L62[02:06:23] <Bri​anH> take the derivative of that and you end up with a function that given any time will give you the acceleration you had at that point
L63[02:06:24] <Bri​anH> 🙂
L64[02:06:46] <Bri​anH> then, take the derivative of that, and you will end up with a new function that tells you the acceleration you had at any time.
L65[02:07:00] <Bri​anH> the integral does the reverse
L66[02:07:20] <Bri​anH> the integral of acceleration gives the graph of velocity, while integrating velocity gives your position.
L67[02:07:39] <Carlen​ White> Interesting...
L68[02:07:49] <Bri​anH> yep. Calculus physics makes physics MUCH easier
L69[02:08:30] <Carlen​ White> Actually, this might've been mentioned but sometimes the stuff goes over my head while I'm still busy processinge everything else.
L70[02:08:39] <Bri​anH> lol
L71[02:08:46] <Carlen​ White> Actually, this might've been mentioned but sometimes the stuff goes over my head while I'm still busy processing everything else. [Edited]
L72[02:11:31] <Carlen​ White> Hm. I'm sure there's a way to start the process because I've been used to calculating a deriviative of a equation, not a function that indexes a table.
L73[02:12:38] <Carlen​ White> I say this and realize, derp, you can still figure this with formulas already understood.
L74[02:13:44] <Carlen​ White> afaik `ΔDistance/ΔTime` between two points.
L75[02:14:07] <Carlen​ White> But if the postion was a equation (somehow) then yeah that'd work.
L76[02:14:26] <Carlen​ White> Or maybe there's a deeper concept to this that I'm too tired to process right now.
L77[02:19:09] <Carlen​ White> But I can see how that if you get your accel between point A and B in time, you can reconstruct your velocity then your position.
L78[02:19:44] <Carlen​ White> The use of which I can see (map without GPS and only the accelorometor)
L79[02:36:48] <Bri​anH> you will find that IRL
L80[02:36:58] <Bri​anH> most things you will be working with are just data
L81[02:37:01] <Bri​anH> and not functions
L82[02:37:25] <Bri​anH> most integrals you will ever find are not solvable with the current technology we have in mathematics.
L83[02:38:00] <Bri​anH> not without sampling a Riemann's sum instead.
L84[02:39:04] <Bri​anH> Its sad but true, math professors will throw you hundreds of integrals, but in the real world, 99% of integrals are not currently solvable.
L85[02:41:49] <Bri​anH> aka they have no solution
L86[02:41:51] <Michiyo> Lizzy, can confirm just got an automated email that didn't yell at me about spoofing my gmail :p
L87[02:43:14] <ThePi​Guy24> ah fuck so close http://tinyurl.com/y2ptyr9b
L88[02:44:27] <ThePi​Guy24> not sure why it dies in io
L89[02:48:00] <ThePi​Guy24> eh is sleep time
L90[03:10:56] <Ocawes​ome101> @ThePiGuy24 is that MuerkOS or whatever it's called?
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L92[03:30:29] <Nathan -​ Car Gang> does anyone know if the devs would mind if it tried to port OC?
L93[03:31:51] <Ocawes​ome101> (a) no they would not and (b) i think someone already made an unsuccessful effort (unsuccessful at least in part because they removed most of the Scala, which is what makes OC tick)
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L95[03:33:00] <Nathan -​ Car Gang> ok well i might just start from the 1.12 version so i know whats going on
L96[03:33:17] <grantlmul> i tried going to sleep 2 hours ago and i dont think ive actually slept
L97[03:33:25] <Ocawes​ome101> yeah
L98[03:33:27] <Ocawes​ome101> ouch
L99[03:33:37] <Nathan -​ Car Gang> though i will mostly end up rewriting the scala into java
L100[03:33:40] <Ocawes​ome101> fwiw payonel is the main developer at this point if you have questions
L101[03:33:49] <Nathan -​ Car Gang> ok
L102[03:34:10] <Nathan -​ Car Gang> ill do it tomorrow going to finish some stuff then go to bed
L103[03:34:12] <Ocawes​ome101> also fair warning, the native libraries if you end up needing to recompile them are a pain in the backside
L104[03:34:19] <Ocawes​ome101> (to compile, that is)
L105[03:34:24] <Nathan -​ Car Gang> how so?
L106[03:35:13] <Ocawes​ome101> they use a weird overcomplicated gradle-based build system, or something like that
L107[03:35:29] <Nathan -​ Car Gang> hmm ok ill look into it
L108[03:36:08] <Ocawes​ome101> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OC-Natives is the Git repo
L109[03:38:44] <Nathan -​ Car Gang> thank you
L110[03:38:58] <Ocawes​ome101> np
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L112[04:06:18] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L113[04:06:18] <MichiBot> Awesome! Compan​ionCube! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of 4 hours, 54 minutes and 48 seconds (By 1 hour, 52 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L114[04:06:19] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 6 hours, 47 minutes and 29 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.0094 (0.00188 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #1.
L115[04:06:24] <CompanionCube> wow
L116[04:07:11] <Ariri> heck I forgot
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L122[05:41:24] <bad at​ vijya> time to continue my cpio util quest
L123[05:46:12] <Amanda> Oh hey
L124[05:46:27] <Amanda> It's oh goddesses why o'clock
L125[05:46:34] <Amanda> Guess I should sleep
L126[05:47:02] * Amanda tucks in around elfi, weary of any threats, zzzmews once she's determined it's safe
L127[05:47:08] <Amanda> Night nerds
L128[06:15:58] <ThePi​Guy24> @Ocawesome101 no its a custom bios to load OSes straight from the internet over http
L129[06:16:33] <ThePi​Guy24> from the oc repo on this case (openos)
L130[06:29:22] <Izaya> Fixed Firefox (Fennec)
L131[06:29:29] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/xmpp/upload/nnRYNc3MtVizzJsU/TB6Ao-dgTyWM_hOE0ht1PQ.jpg
L132[06:29:57] <bad at​ vijya> wot
L133[06:30:13] <Izaya> Mozilla broke Android firefox
L134[06:30:16] <Izaya> you may have heard
L135[06:30:18] <bad at​ vijya> [x] nice
L136[06:30:19] <Izaya> > 6 addons
L137[06:30:24] <Izaya> so I fixed it
L138[06:30:25] <bad at​ vijya> how the fuck did they do it
L139[06:30:29] <Izaya> they uh
L140[06:30:31] <Izaya> replaced the engine
L141[06:30:36] <Izaya> so now it's slower
L142[06:30:40] <bad at​ vijya> i
L143[06:30:41] <Izaya> oh also the UI is all animations
L144[06:30:42] <bad at​ vijya> see
L145[06:30:43] <Izaya> so it's slower
L146[06:30:50] <Izaya> and also
L147[06:30:53] <bad at​ vijya> what's funny is
L148[06:30:53] <Izaya> no addons
L149[06:31:02] <Izaya> so anyway
L150[06:31:07] <bad at​ vijya> fennec ended up working better on one of my phones lmao
L151[06:31:09] <bad at​ vijya> only one
L152[06:31:18] <Izaya> enable the F-Droid Archive repo, install the sane version
L153[06:31:36] <bad at​ vijya> it's the one that has a fucking broken headphone jack
L154[06:31:47] <bad at​ vijya> ~~also the only one that has cell service~~
L155[06:32:02] <bad at​ vijya> oh hey
L156[06:32:03] <bad at​ vijya> izaya
L157[06:32:06] <bad at​ vijya> i have some
L158[06:32:06] <Izaya> I don't feel comfortable using an official Mozilla release
L159[06:32:09] <bad at​ vijya> wonderful code for you
L160[06:34:04] <Izaya> OH
L161[06:34:07] <Izaya> also
L162[06:34:09] <Izaya> you can't disable pocket
L163[06:34:17] <Izaya> because it's part of the browser now, not a pre-installed addon
L164[06:35:05] <ThePi​Guy24> can confirm that current android firefox is slow as shit
L165[06:35:20] <bad at​ vijya> huh
L166[06:35:41] <ThePi​Guy24> and it also looks like shit compared to the older versions
L167[06:35:52] <Izaya> gotta love the stuttery animations, eh?
L168[06:38:00] <Izaya> additionally
L169[06:38:06] <Izaya> thanks mozilla for fucking my configuration
L170[06:38:21] <Izaya> didn't even bother to import anything, not that I could have used it now
L171[06:39:33] <!0§A.​pjals™> just use chrome at this point
L172[06:40:01] <Izaya> no
L173[06:40:08] <!0§A.​pjals™> why
L174[06:40:13] <Izaya> ignoring that it won't work on my phone anyway, fuck google especially
L175[06:40:24] <!0§A.​pjals™> k
L176[06:40:28] <Izaya> mozilla pisses me off but at least they're relatively harmless
L177[06:44:12] <Izaya> hm, that's inconvenient
L178[06:44:29] <Izaya> mobile firefox (+ related) don't have the about:config option to hide the firefox sync stuff
L179[06:44:32] <Izaya> oh also
L180[06:44:56] <Izaya> apparently if you're using actual FF and not Fennec which is slightly better, the new version has about:config disabled
L181[06:44:58] <Izaya> fucking
L182[06:45:32] <Izaya> > hi yes let's remove any configuration and addons from our browser literally only used by people that configure the shit out of it and put more stickers on it than touring panniers
L183[06:46:30] <Izaya> s/stickers on it/addons on it than stickers on/
L184[06:46:30] <MichiBot> <Izaya> > hi yes let's remove any configuration and addons from our browser literally only used by people that configure the shit out of it and put more addons on it than stickers on than touring panniers
L185[06:46:39] <Izaya> close enough
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L188[07:09:46] <!0§A.​pjals™> angr is the superior airline theme
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L191[07:25:51] <bad at​ vijya> why the fuck statx not working
L192[07:27:01] <ThePi​Guy24> DE brok?
L193[07:27:24] <bad at​ vijya> `util.c:120:6: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘statx’; did you mean ‘stat’?`
L194[07:27:59] <ThePi​Guy24> oh statx not startx
L195[07:28:16] <bad at​ vijya> i need the motherfuckin creation time
L196[07:35:57] <bad at​ vijya> s i g h
L197[07:36:20] <bad at​ vijya> i had to add `-DGNUSOURCE` to the gcc invocation
L198[07:38:49] <ThePi​Guy24> just include evety library until it works
L199[07:39:42] <bad at​ vijya> man
L200[07:39:44] <bad at​ vijya> i love hacks
L201[07:39:51] <bad at​ vijya> `ptr[strlen(ptr)-1] = 0;`
L202[07:39:56] <bad at​ vijya> because getline returns the newline
L203[07:49:26] <ThePi​Guy24> do not cursed
L204[07:49:47] <dequbed> @"bad at vijya" hi yes have you heard C is cursed.
L205[07:49:55] <bad at​ vijya> yes
L206[07:49:57] <bad at​ vijya> i have
L207[07:50:25] <dequbed> `_GNU_SOURCE` is like .. one of the *least* cursed things out there. Unless you're a compiler engineer in which case it's probably the most cursed.
L208[07:50:30] <bad at​ vijya> i'm trying to figure out why the fuck `&formats[i]` is returning a pointer to 0x1
L209[07:50:42] <bad at​ vijya> oh, it's not cursed. i'm just annoyed.
L210[07:51:27] <ThePi​Guy24> increment the pointer to break shit
L211[07:51:36] <bad at​ vijya> ???
L212[07:52:31] <bad at​ vijya> ah okay
L213[07:52:33] <bad at​ vijya> here we go
L214[07:52:40] <bad at​ vijya> "unknown format cpio64"
L215[07:52:42] <bad at​ vijya> ...
L216[07:52:45] <bad at​ vijya> OH
L217[07:52:53] <bad at​ vijya> !strcmp
L218[07:52:55] <bad at​ vijya> i need that
L219[07:56:10] <bad at​ vijya> okay
L220[07:56:14] <bad at​ vijya> now we're getting somewhere
L221[07:57:16] <bad at​ vijya> "file name is not null terminated"
L222[07:57:17] <bad at​ vijya> wot
L223[07:58:02] <bad at​ vijya> ohhhh
L224[07:58:05] <bad at​ vijya> i see what's wrong
L225[07:58:06] <bad at​ vijya> lmao
L226[07:58:16] <ThePi​Guy24> just replace the byte after the string with null, fuck whatever is there alreafy
L227[07:59:11] <bad at​ vijya> oh boy
L228[07:59:19] <bad at​ vijya> segfault on leadout
L229[08:00:03] <dequbed> At least the pseudo-standarization on x86/ARM made sure that the absolute garbagefire that is C which is accidentally supporting our entire digital infrastructure will not happen in the same capacity again.
L230[08:00:58] <bad at​ vijya> so
L231[08:01:01] <bad at​ vijya> as it turns out
L232[08:01:13] <bad at​ vijya> i forgot to actually set the `leadout` member of the format struct
L233[08:01:15] <bad at​ vijya> godtier
L234[08:02:56] <bad at​ vijya> oh
L235[08:03:00] <bad at​ vijya> i forgot to write the file data
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L237[08:17:36] <bad at​ vijya> i'm getting somewhere http://tinyurl.com/y6s6lr2e
L238[08:50:15] <bad at​ vijya> fixed alignment issues :)
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L240[09:24:28] <Ariri> >uses an ann to upscale and denoise an emote for a anime gacha game
L241[09:24:36] <Ariri> The marvels of technology
L242[09:40:14] * dequbed slaps Ariri with the Apollo Guidance Computer
L243[09:40:38] <ThePi​Guy24> cthunk
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L246[10:01:17] <!0§A.​pjals™> i regret doing nvim | lolcat http://tinyurl.com/y5rd6939
L247[10:04:24] <bad at​ vijya> wtf is going wrong with this
L248[10:04:29] <bad at​ vijya> how is namesize 0
L249[10:05:27] <!0§A.​pjals™> i have no idea
L250[10:05:46] <!0§A.​pjals™> but for some reason ctrl+c terminated the program
L251[10:06:08] <bad at​ vijya> nani the fuck http://tinyurl.com/y4j3cjzt
L252[10:06:17] <!0§A.​pjals™> nice
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L254[10:09:29] <grantlmul> @"bad at​ vijya" what are you doing
L255[10:09:45] <bad at​ vijya> trying to make a cpio util lmao
L256[10:09:48] <bad at​ vijya> reading from a file
L257[10:11:44] <bad at​ vijya> oh neat
L258[10:11:47] <bad at​ vijya> bless broke
L259[10:12:49] <bad at​ vijya> anyways, this works http://tinyurl.com/y454rdjw
L260[10:12:57] <bad at​ vijya> dunno why my util is fuckin choking
L261[10:15:13] <bad at​ vijya> huh
L262[10:15:19] <bad at​ vijya> it's not copying the stuff to the buffer
L263[10:18:27] <bad at​ vijya> yeah
L264[10:18:31] <bad at​ vijya> wtf
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L266[10:26:40] <bad at​ vijya> i
L267[10:26:44] <bad at​ vijya> what even is going on here
L268[10:27:17] <bad at​ vijya> w h a t http://tinyurl.com/yyfpm6cn
L269[10:34:43] <grantlmul> could i help 😳️👉️👈️
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L271[10:38:54] <bad at​ vijya> well i finally got something other than repeating garbage
L272[10:38:57] <bad at​ vijya> now i have rng garbage
L273[10:39:12] <grantlmul> ...can i?
L274[10:40:46] <bad at​ vijya> well
L275[10:40:48] <bad at​ vijya> as it turns out
L276[10:41:01] <bad at​ vijya> i had to cast the pointer to the struct to `void *`
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L278[10:59:40] <grantlmul> i keep thinking up new things to do but then its like
L279[10:59:43] <grantlmul> ...nah
L280[11:03:00] <bad at​ vijya> why the fuck does this compile in GCC but not in clang
L281[11:03:10] <grantlmul> uhhh
L282[11:03:11] <Izaya> GNU extensions
L283[11:03:13] <bad at​ vijya> [screams of rage]
L284[11:03:14] <grantlmul> can i help
L285[11:03:21] <bad at​ vijya> IT'S NOT EVEN GNU EXTENSIONS
L286[11:03:23] <Izaya> congratulations, you accidentally wrote a non-portable program
L287[11:03:23] <bad at​ vijya> i think
L288[11:03:33] <grantlmul> please
L289[11:03:38] <bad at​ vijya> clang screams at me with `error: initializer element is not a compile-time constant`
L290[11:04:07] <grantlmul> like a github repo or something i can clone?
L291[11:04:28] <bad at​ vijya> not atm because i'm fighting the compiler to do what i want
L292[11:04:39] <bad at​ vijya> wait a fucking second
L293[11:04:44] <bad at​ vijya> i didn't check alignment
L294[11:05:35] <Izaya> PC Load Letter
L295[11:06:55] <bad at​ vijya> ah yes
L296[11:07:16] <bad at​ vijya> `muid = 65536031, mgid = 65536000,`
L297[11:07:19] <bad at​ vijya> nothing seems wrong hee
L298[11:07:21] <bad at​ vijya> *here
L299[11:07:35] <bad at​ vijya> if bless was working, this would be a lot easier to diagnose
L300[11:09:07] <gran​tlmul> let me help :uhhh:
L301[11:09:29] <Izaya> isn't bless a util for making partitions bootable on machines with ofw?
L302[11:09:48] <grantlmul> that and a hex editor
L303[11:10:57] <Izaya> ah yes, https://github.com/apple-opensource/bless
L304[11:11:07] <Izaya> in typical Apple fashion, hasn't been updated in years
L305[11:12:00] <Izaya> not as old as their bash though
L306[11:16:41] <ThePi​Guy24> %tonk
L307[11:16:42] <MichiBot> Dogast! ThePi​Guy24! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of 6 hours, 47 minutes and 29 seconds (By 22 minutes and 54 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L308[11:16:43] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new record is 7 hours, 10 minutes and 23 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.00266 (0.00038 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #5. Need 0.17174056 more points to pass Li​zzy!
L309[12:04:34] <Amanda> Izaya: I thought that apple released their oss stuff as a series of svn repositories on a domain they control? That might have been an unofficial mirror. Granted, it's also not exactly shocking if stuffs out of date, they've not been subtle in trying to make people use their mac app store and suxh
L310[12:05:41] <Izaya> That explains why it's so recently (relatively) updated
L311[12:06:00] <Izaya> Commits are only 4 years old because it's an import
L312[12:09:56] <SkyCr​after0> %tonk
L313[12:09:57] <MichiBot> I'm sorry SkyCrafter0, you were not able to beat ThePiGuy24's record of 7 hours, 10 minutes and 23 seconds this time. 53 minutes and 14 seconds were wasted! Missed by 6 hours, 17 minutes and 9 seconds!
L314[12:10:04] <SkyCr​after0> bruhv
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L321[12:46:15] <dequbed> Why is it that everytime I design electronics it always ends up overengineered? I need to switch a simple power MOSFET and by this time I'm 3 MOSFETs, a BJT, a power sensing subsystem, voltage limiting diodes in and have done the maths to rate everything for 2kHz switching speed <.<
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L325[13:22:02] <!0§A.​pjals™> ah yes
L326[13:22:04] <!0§A.​pjals™> vexaton
L327[13:38:10] <Lizzy> dequbed, meanwhile i've worked out why my LED strip didn't work under a full-white setting
L328[13:38:58] <Lizzy> the PSU i had powering it could only do 25w max, the whole strip (going by the amazon page and not taking into account any transmission losses) uses about 33w
L329[13:41:31] <dequbed> Lizzy: Fun fact I'm building an LED controller (v2). Do you need a way too overengineered one? :p
L330[13:44:11] * Lizzy shrugs
L331[13:45:00] <Lizzy> my last IoT-based controller thingy died and took the aforementioned 25w PSU with it so i'm going back to having it Pi controlled and probably being powered by a spare ATX PSU
L332[13:45:35] <dequbed> Lizzy: Well yes but do you want /more power/? :p
L333[13:46:13] <Lizzy> I think the 600w ATX PSU will have more power, so i'm good on that front
L334[13:46:35] <dequbed> I meant on the controller side :p
L335[13:46:45] <Lizzy> ah, errm, sure i guess?
L336[13:47:42] <Lizzy> my solution with the Pi was just gonna be a python script running the gpio outputs
L337[13:48:22] <dequbed> Yes but I doubt you'll be providing 33W over GPIO?
L338[13:49:00] <Lizzy> no, the 33W will be coming from the PSU, the Pi will just be hooking into the same 5v lines and then providing the data signal
L339[13:49:23] <Lizzy> (my LED strips are WS2812 based)
L340[13:49:26] <dequbed> Ah okay
L341[13:49:55] <dequbed> Then you don't need the controller I'm designing. That's for stupid LED strips. Stupid, but many amperes worth of stupid.
L342[13:50:24] <Lizzy> ah, like the 4-pole ones that have seperate feeds for red, green and blue?
L343[13:52:21] <dequbed> Well yes kinda. Put in 24V (or anything you want <60V), and drive 4 output lanes via 4 GPIO inputs that can be as low as 1V8 relative to (onboard) GND
L344[13:52:35] <Lizzy> oh cool
L345[13:53:12] <Lizzy> another idea i've had today but i'm not sure yet if i'll actually implement it, is taking a picture of whats on my computer, get the approximate colours at the edges then feed that into some LED strips mounted to teh back of my monitors
L346[13:53:41] <dequbed> Each lane can do 10A continously, pulsed .. well above 300A the power fets get an impromptu viking burial.
L347[13:54:00] <Lizzy> lol
L348[13:54:37] <Lizzy> hmm, i wonder what the 5v standby power is on the ATX PSU i wanna use
L349[13:55:07] <dequbed> And the 10A is because otherwise the PCB gets warm and soft and icky but if you change the fuse it's technically fine to 20A, it just goes warm. If I'd use thicker traces I could get up to 75A but an 18kW controller sounds like the kind of fun I should stray away from.
L350[13:55:48] <Lizzy> my thinking is to use a relay (or two, because i think powering the data pin without the main power pin having power supposedly kills the IC) that work in such a way that when the strip is fully off, it'll turn off the ATX supply
L351[13:57:21] <Lizzy> Pi zero is then powered by the standby power and uses little power
L352[13:57:44] <dequbed> Ah yes don't power GPIO lanes if you don't provide main power that reverses the diodes in the IC and releases all the magic smoke.
L353[13:57:59] <dequbed> Also, is the pi 5V rated? I thought not.
L354[13:58:06] <Lizzy> yeah
L355[13:58:08] <Lizzy> well
L356[13:58:14] <Lizzy> internally it uses 3.3v it hink
L357[13:58:20] <Lizzy> but it has 5v headers
L358[13:58:35] <Lizzy> not sure what the data lines are, probably 3.3v
L359[13:58:37] <dequbed> But WS2812 can use 3.3v io anyway, can't they?
L360[13:58:46] <Lizzy> yeah, it's worked in the past
L361[13:59:34] <Lizzy> i just hope i didn't break my pi zero the other day when i fed 5v to pin 37 because i had the connector on backwards
L362[13:59:54] <Lizzy> though that was with the now-damaged psu
L363[14:05:05] <Lizzy> hm, okay. I think i should be able to power the pi and the "PS ON" relay with the 5vSB power (need to check power output of that when i can), then have another relay that'll cut off the data signal when the PSU is off running off of the Power OK wire, if it works how i think it does
L364[14:05:09] * Lizzy goes to wikipedia
L365[14:14:57] <Lizzy> oh, can't use the power ok line for that purpose
L366[14:15:41] <Lizzy> it only provides power for a short while to indicate the power is good
L367[14:17:53] <Lizzy> or... wait
L368[14:18:08] <Lizzy> bleh, idk what that line does
L369[14:19:10] <Lizzy> i guess i can blow up a relay to test it later
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L388[18:05:08] <Forec​aster> that's a lot of cases http://tinyurl.com/y5qammor
L389[18:05:53] <Nathan -​ Car Gang> @payonel sorry for the ping but i started porting oc and i was wondering for the CapabilitiesCharset what would i need to do to make them work
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L391[18:16:43] <DaCompu​terNerd> They didnt even try hiding the phishing on the email
L392[18:16:47] <DaCompu​terNerd> Impressive
L393[18:16:57] <DaCompu​terNerd> How bad can a phish be
L394[18:26:24] <Michiyo> damn it, airing order vs series order sucks.
L395[18:30:23] <Inari> What you watching
L396[18:30:28] <Michiyo> Sliders
L397[18:33:22] <Michiyo> Ok, I think sitting Plex to Absolute Numbering for this series has fixed it.
L398[18:33:48] <Michiyo> Yep
L399[18:36:58] <Forec​aster> I re-order everything to aired order if I can (if the episodes are combined it's tricky)
L400[18:39:38] <Michiyo> Meh :P
L401[18:40:43] <Forec​aster> I should enable my renaming script to do that automatically at some point
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L403[19:03:47] <Ocawes​ome101> hmm
L404[19:03:57] <Ocawes​ome101> bitwise AND is how one extracts single bits from a number, right?
L405[19:04:14] <hilari​ousppp> yep
L406[19:04:25] <Ocawes​ome101> and OR combines them
L407[19:04:39] <Ocawes​ome101> ?
L408[19:05:17] <ThePi​Guy24> correct
L409[19:05:36] <ThePi​Guy24> xor selectively inverts them
L410[19:06:38] <Ocawes​ome101> so to say toggle the 5th bit, `n ~ 2^5`?
L411[19:06:46] <Ocawes​ome101> also in Lua `~` is xor right?
L412[19:07:46] <ThePi​Guy24> yes
L413[19:08:01] <Ocawes​ome101> 👍 that'll be useful, ty
L414[19:08:29] <ThePi​Guy24> its also bitwise not
L415[19:08:59] <ThePi​Guy24> because it wasnt confusing enough just to have it do one thing :p
L416[19:09:21] <Ocawes​ome101> lol
L417[19:13:48] <Kristo​pher38> i mean, `-` is both used for unary negation when there's only one operand and for subtraction when there are two operands
L418[19:14:13] <Kristo​pher38> in most if not all programming languages
L419[19:14:46] <Kristo​pher38> so it's not unusual
L420[19:24:56] <dequbed> And before somebody comments that that doesn't count because unary negation is just substraction over the (additive) identity element, bitwise negation is just XOR over the co-identity element.
L421[19:27:37] <Forec​aster> %sip
L422[19:27:38] <MichiBot> You drink a slimy red potion (New!). Forecaster feels a sudden surge of static electricity.
L423[19:27:54] <Forec​aster> %zap dequbed
L424[19:27:54] <MichiBot> Forecaster zaps dequbed using NASA's GPG Key as a conductor for 1d​6 => 2 damage!
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L426[19:32:51] <Ocawes​ome101> well
L427[19:32:56] <Ocawes​ome101> i'm finally implementing an OCFS driver
L428[19:33:09] <Ocawes​ome101> this thing is complicated
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L430[19:33:30] <Ocawes​ome101> it also might be portable to OpenFS with some slight modifications
L431[19:33:37] <bad at​ vijya> lol imagine foxfs in linux
L432[19:33:43] <Ocawes​ome101> do it
L433[19:33:53] <Vexatos> I bought a new printer
L434[19:34:07] <bad at​ vijya> new or "new"?
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L436[19:34:07] <Forec​aster> is it tame?
L437[19:34:13] <Vexatos> I can now print and scan things without having to boot up another computer
L438[19:34:18] <Vexatos> and carrying USB drives across
L439[19:34:21] <Vexatos> this is luxurious
L440[19:34:22] <ThePi​Guy24> i just use tar as a filesystem on some floppies :p
L441[19:34:28] <Forec​aster> that sounds boring
L442[19:34:28] <bad at​ vijya> >tar
L443[19:34:32] <Forec​aster> where's the adventure?
L444[19:34:36] <Vexatos> it even has a LAN port so it's a network printer now!!!
L445[19:34:36] <Ocawes​ome101> i might be able to use OCFS for things like custom OS-dev if i ever get into that
L446[19:34:43] <Vexatos> I ARRIVED IN THE MODERN ERA
L447[19:34:44] <bad at​ vijya> [extreme anger]
L448[19:34:57] <SkyCr​after0> havent printers had ethernet ports for years?
L449[19:35:01] <bad at​ vijya> tar makes me ANGRY
L450[19:35:08] <ThePi​Guy24> well atleast its not rar
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L452[19:35:20] <bad at​ vijya> look
L453[19:35:22] <ThePi​Guy24> ruskiy archive :p
L454[19:35:30] <bad at​ vijya> i have such a hatred of tar
L455[19:35:37] <bad at​ vijya> that i made cpio64
L456[19:35:49] <Forec​aster> Love me some Licesnses http://tinyurl.com/y3ja5w7s
L457[19:35:51] * dequbed tar xzf @"bad at vijya"
L458[19:36:19] <Vexatos> @SkyCrafter0 my old printer was from 2001
L459[19:37:00] <Vexatos> and I think it's dead now
L460[19:37:32] <Vexatos> it can't scan, only print
L461[19:37:49] <Vexatos> for scanning I'd have to go over to my grandparents but that PC is always shut down so I'd have to boot it up first
L462[19:38:00] <bad at​ vijya> lzcat dequbed | cpio -i
L463[19:40:35] <Inari> Maybe I shoudl try this blue reflection thing. Seems to be one of the only 3d mahou shoujo games
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L466[19:40:47] <dequbed> @"bad at vijya" anyway, that much hate isn't healthy. Tar is a good format for it's use-case and there's very little wrong with it.
L467[19:42:21] <bad at​ vijya> ascii headers and 512 byte alignment angers me
L468[19:43:00] <Inari> Tar is good for one thing
L469[19:43:06] * Inari massages some tar into Amanda's fur
L470[19:43:10] <Inari> Cleaning fure!
L471[19:43:12] <Inari> *fur
L472[19:43:13] <Amanda> D:
L473[19:43:17] <bad at​ vijya> fure
L474[19:43:23] <ThePi​Guy24> use ebcdic headers and 511 byte alignment instead
L475[19:43:48] <Forec​aster> I mean, technically when you remove the tar any dirt and stuff will come with it
L476[19:43:52] <Forec​aster> and also the fur, but still
L477[19:43:55] <Inari> haha
L478[19:47:07] <dequbed> @"bad at vijya" cpio uses ASCII headers just as much as tar does and 512 byte alignment is very very sensible for a /tape archive/. And also reasonably sensible for block devices because you can easier map the file to continous memory.
L479[19:47:08] <Forec​aster> %sip
L480[19:47:09] <MichiBot> You drink a fiery citrus potion (New!). A genie appears out of the empty bottle, turns it into a pie, then vanishes.
L481[19:47:55] <bad at​ vijya> dequbed: i don't touch the ascii formats but the memory mapping is a fair point
L482[19:52:02] <dequbed> @"bad at vijya" so what you're actually saying is that you hate both cpio and tar for daring to use stringy information instead of raw encoded values despite the fact that it makes parsing and extending much easier and is completely and utterly irrelevant from a perfomance perspective. I mean sure, I dislike JSON vs BER as well so.
L483[19:53:28] <bad at​ vijya> yes, and i'm aware my opinion doesn't really matter anywaus
L484[19:55:56] <bad at​ vijya> *anyways
L485[19:56:18] <bad at​ vijya> hmm
L486[19:56:26] <dequbed> Nah, your opinion is just as valid as everybody elses. I just rather dislike when people get angry about technical choices and shit on other people's engineering work without taking into consideration that back then or for them it might have been a valid tradeoff or a valid decision. And yes, I know I used to do that as well. I hope I've become better.
L487[19:56:37] <bad at​ vijya> yea
L488[19:56:42] <bad at​ vijya> that's fair
L489[19:57:14] <bad at​ vijya> though now i have an extremely stupid idea
L490[19:58:00] <dequbed> If you'd said something along the lines of "I dislike the direction tar is taking with stringy values for strongly structured data when encoding it as raw values saves on CPU and storage and only loses extensibility /which original tar never used to begin with/" I would have said absolutely nothing :p
L491[19:58:26] <bad at​ vijya> kek
L492[19:58:29] <bad at​ vijya> fair enough
L493[20:00:10] <Forec​aster> That feeling when you wanted to draw but your tablet doesn't work
L494[20:00:25] <Forec​aster> >:
L495[20:03:22] <bad at​ vijya> anyways, had a really stupid idea taking archives using strings for metadata to it's logical endpoint, where each entry is more or less an HTTP response :^)
L496[20:05:52] <bad at​ vijya> i love shitposting
L497[20:06:21] <bad at​ vijya> i would say i'll do the thing i just said but i can't even get my archive util working
L498[20:07:39] <bad at​ vijya> fuck it, i'm just gonna make the lua api, since it seems to be my inability to C
L499[20:26:46] <Ariri> %tonk ?
L500[20:26:46] <MichiBot> Uh-oh! Ar​iri! You beat ThePi​Guy24's previous record of 7 hours, 10 minutes and 23 seconds (By 1 hour, 6 minutes and 26 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L501[20:26:47] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 8 hours, 16 minutes and 50 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.00888 (0.00111 x 8) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #9. Need 0.20908 more points to pass simo​n816!
L502[20:33:22] <simon816> uh-oh!
L503[20:34:27] <bad at​ vijya> yea, doing the format defs and all in lua is gonna be much easier lmao
L504[20:39:53] <SkyCr​after0> %tonkleaders
L505[20:39:54] <MichiBot> SkyCr​after0: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L506[20:40:24] <SkyCr​after0> %greenshell Skyrat
L507[20:40:24] <MichiBot> SkyCr​after0: Green Shells can only target within 3 positions ahead of you.
L508[20:40:30] <SkyCr​after0> ah fuck
L509[20:40:42] <SkyCr​after0> %greenshell !0?A.pjals?
L510[20:40:42] <MichiBot> SkyCr​after0: Green Shells can only target within 3 positions ahead of you.
L511[20:40:48] <SkyCr​after0> bro what
L512[20:40:58] <SkyCr​after0> http://tinyurl.com/y576uxss
L513[20:41:07] <SkyCr​after0> %greenshell exper975
L514[20:41:07] <MichiBot> SkyCr​after0: Green Shells can only target within 3 positions ahead of you.
L515[20:41:18] <SkyCr​after0> %greenshell expert975
L516[20:41:18] <MichiBot> SkyCr​after0: You hit expert975! They lost 0.000273 tonk points which you gain! Congratulations! Position #28 Need 0.000364 more points to pass expe​rt975!
L517[20:41:23] <SkyCr​after0> WHEYYY
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L519[20:44:45] <takipc> :thinking:
L520[20:44:49] <Forec​aster> Note to self: 1. add a timeout of at least 5 minutes to tonksnipe, 2. Add separate message for "no such target" error
L521[20:45:17] <bad at​ vijya> so
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L523[20:45:29] <bad at​ vijya> my archive util is just gonna have all formats defined in lua
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L525[21:27:39] <Michiyo> @SkyCr​after simple their name isn't '!0?A.pjals?'
L526[21:27:48] <Michiyo> but that is what gets saved because I fucking hate UTF-8
L527[21:27:57] <Michiyo> and fuck discord for allowing it.
L528[21:27:58] <Michiyo> :D
L529[21:28:26] <CompanionCube> what's the alternative to UTF-8 though?
L530[21:29:11] <bad at​ vijya> ShiftJIS
L531[21:29:15] <bad at​ vijya> :^)
L532[21:29:32] <CompanionCube> UTF-EBCDIC
L533[21:30:07] <ThePi​Guy24> extended-extended-ascii
L534[21:31:44] <Michiyo> UTF-8 is great in theory, it's horrible in the various implementations.
L535[21:32:12] <Michiyo> Look at UTF-8 and utf8mb4
L536[21:40:10] <Inari> Not sure why you need that mb4 thing anyway
L537[21:40:20] <Inari> UTF-8 makes it clear how many bytes there are fo rthe character
L538[21:42:04] <Michiyo> because MySQL decided that UTF-8 only needed 3 bytes
L539[21:42:12] <Inari> brilliant
L540[21:42:22] <Michiyo> if you tried to store a 4byte (100% valid) character it just.. died
L541[21:42:45] <Michiyo> so then instead of FIXING THAT, the added a NEW encoding that IS NOT the default for 'utf-8'
L542[21:42:59] <Michiyo> so UTF-8 is utf8mb3, and then there is utf8mb4..
L543[21:43:02] <Inari> just base64 encode all messages
L544[21:43:06] <Michiyo> which you have to STRICTLY specify
L545[21:43:20] <Michiyo> You know I STRONGLY considered that when logs were SQL still
L546[21:43:26] <Inari> haha
L547[21:46:25] <Inari> would make it hard to search though
L548[21:46:42] <Forec​aster> %sip
L549[21:46:43] <MichiBot> You drink a fragrant grass potion (New!). Everything Forecaster says is now in Wingdings until their next sip of water.
L550[21:46:50] <Forec​aster> Aww
L551[21:50:48] <Michiyo> Just base64 decode EVERY entry and compare it!
L552[21:51:13] <Inari> Performance™
L553[21:51:37] <Michiyo> Eh.. I mean in the current search I open and scan EVERY file to look for your search term
L554[21:52:01] <Michiyo> 2,424 files lol
L555[21:52:07] <Inari> I mean, not sure how else you'd do it without getting super complicated
L556[21:52:48] <Michiyo> Damn Vex must have been chatty yesterday, I'm still ~600 lines from 2nd place
L557[21:53:10] <Inari> %stats
L558[21:53:28] <Michiyo> likely didn't get re-added after I broke it
L559[21:53:33] <Inari> rip
L560[21:53:45] <Michiyo> %ocstats
L561[21:53:45] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/ssstats/oc/index.html
L562[21:53:50] <Michiyo> ah, it's that
L563[21:53:51] <Vexatos> clearly I used buying a printer as an excuse to keep my lead
L564[21:54:09] <Vexatos> imagine swapping out a 2001 printer for a 2019 one
L565[21:54:18] <Michiyo> Ew, printers.
L566[21:54:27] <Ariri> Ew, paper
L567[21:54:41] <Michiyo> Ew, Ew.
L568[21:54:42] <Vexatos> I no longer have to move a USB drive with documents to a computer I have to boot up to print something
L569[21:54:43] <Inari> Heyy I'm still kind ahigh up
L570[21:54:47] <Inari> despite not talking that much :P
L571[21:54:49] <Vexatos> printers suck but I need one
L572[21:55:02] <Michiyo> Yes, sadly I do as well
L573[21:55:13] <Michiyo> I have some Brother AIO Network printer.
L574[21:55:14] <Vexatos> this one has automatic document feeding at the top
L575[21:55:16] <Inari> Just use a heat printer thing
L576[21:55:19] <Vexatos> for hyperspeed scanning
L577[21:55:21] <Vexatos> very nice
L578[21:55:34] <Vexatos> Inari, a laser printer?
L579[21:55:36] <Vexatos> or thermal paper
L580[21:55:38] <Ariri> til the stats have gender on them
L581[21:55:38] <Inari> no
L582[21:55:42] <Inari> thermal paper, yeah
L583[21:55:46] <Vexatos> thermal paper causes cancer :P
L584[21:55:53] <Inari> so does ham
L585[21:55:54] <Michiyo> @Ariri, yep, if you want to set yours you do so via a git repo
L586[21:55:59] <Vexatos> no like actually Inari
L587[21:56:07] <Vexatos> if you touch it too much you will get skin cancer
L588[21:56:15] <Michiyo> Ariri, https://github.com/CaitlynMainer/OCNicks
L589[21:56:18] <Inari> weird
L590[21:56:37] <Ariri> Maybe, but I dont care much for my or others gender
L591[21:56:38] <Michiyo> I.. might need to dump out the current one and update the repo
L592[21:57:01] <Ariri> Last time I checked this I was near the top of almost every statistic for the month o_O
L593[21:57:06] <Vexatos> dot matrix printers are the only good type of printer
L594[21:57:13] <Vexatos> but you cannot do colour prints with them
L595[21:57:14] <Ariri> I talked too much :P
L596[21:57:18] <Inari> I think I meant those anyway
L597[21:57:22] <Inari> Don't those use heat
L598[21:57:25] <Inari> 🤔
L599[21:57:27] <Vexatos> also they are extremely expensive
L600[21:58:04] <Michiyo> you totally CAN do color with *some* Dot Matrix printers!
L601[21:58:07] <Vexatos> they use pins to hammer ink from a tape onto the paper
L602[21:58:17] <Inari> I see
L603[21:58:38] <Michiyo> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Colour_and_black_ribbons_for_Epson_LX-300_dot_matrix_printer.jpg
L604[21:58:47] <Michiyo> That is a color DotMatrix ribbon
L605[21:58:49] <Vexatos> they are extremely good because the ribbons cannot dry out
L606[21:58:55] <Vexatos> unlike ink
L607[21:59:02] <Vexatos> and it cannot clog up
L608[21:59:05] <Vexatos> unlike laser printers
L609[21:59:22] <Inari> why so pricey then
L610[21:59:35] <Vexatos> because there is no normal consumer market for them
L611[21:59:41] <Ocawes​ome101> the only issue i've ever had with our laserjet cp1025nw is Arch not liking it, at all
L612[21:59:43] <Vexatos> they are only used in industrial applications these days
L613[21:59:49] <Vexatos> mostly data logging
L614[22:00:00] <Ariri> >Kicks Received >17 1 ♀Michiyo ♀Michiyo_ was kicked by Michiyo (Michiyo_)
L615[22:00:02] <Ariri> Hehe
L616[22:00:22] <Vexatos> @Ocawesome101 I don't have the money for a laser printer sadly
L617[22:00:40] <Ocawes​ome101> i see
L618[22:00:47] <Ocawes​ome101> neither do i, my parents bought it :p
L619[22:00:59] <Vexatos> also it needs to be able to do photos and laser printers aren't exactly good with those
L620[22:01:10] <Ocawes​ome101> hm, yeah, that's entirely fair
L621[22:01:25] <Ocawes​ome101> our printer messes up color sometimes
L622[22:02:22] <Vexatos> I am mostly hyped because this one is a network printer so I can just leave it in standby all day and night and it boots up just enough to print something whenever I want to from anywhere in the building which is very nice compared to my previous situation
L623[22:02:35] <Ocawes​ome101> ey nice
L624[22:02:57] <Vexatos> I only need to print something once every couple of weeks
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L626[22:03:15] <Vexatos> but I still don't want to spend 10 minutes on a print each time
L627[22:10:48] <Ocawes​ome101> https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/c+-.html
L628[22:13:33] <Ocawes​ome101> the DNA one is pretty great too
L629[22:16:05] </home/c​avej376> anyone has any idea on how can i fix this? http://tinyurl.com/yyo79b5f
L630[22:17:20] </home/c​avej376> i've tried running `give ...` command using debug card, but it failed with "you don't have permission to use this command" error
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L633[22:17:57] <Michiyo> do *you* have permission to run that command? If so take the debug card and IIRC Sneak click with it in your hand
L634[22:18:27] <Michiyo> by default the debug card doesn't have *any* permissions, when you bind it to yourself it uses your permissions
L635[22:18:43] </home/c​avej376> oh, i didn't know
L636[22:18:56] </home/c​avej376> thank you, it worked now
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L640[23:15:13] <Amanda> %remindme 12h sacrafice an apple to satiate the shame
L641[23:15:13] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "sacrafice an apple to satiate the shame" at 10/14/2020 11:15:13 AM
L642[23:15:35] <Amanda> %choose rainbox or more cubes
L643[23:15:35] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: "rainbox", now with 30% fewer deaths caused by negligence!
L644[23:15:45] * Amanda eyes MichiBot wearily
L645[23:20:02] <SkyCr​after0> %tonk
L646[23:20:03] <MichiBot> I'm sorry SkyCrafter0, you were not able to beat Ariri's record of 8 hours, 16 minutes and 50 seconds this time. 2 hours, 53 minutes and 16 seconds were wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 23 minutes and 34 seconds!
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L648[23:20:59] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Twitch is borked again. I can't load my modpacks.
L649[23:21:08] <SkyCrafter0> f
L650[23:21:11] <SkyCrafter0> use multimc
L651[23:21:40] <Brisingr​Aerowing> I use Twitch to create and update packs, and symlink them to MultiMC for actual use. I don't play premade packs.
L652[23:21:52] <SkyCrafter0> fair enough
L653[23:22:28] <Brisingr​Aerowing> And as soon as I posted that it loaded.
L654[23:22:33] <Brisingr​Aerowing> ...
L655[23:22:37] <SkyCrafter0> lol
L656[23:23:26] <Amanda> Amazon is listening
L657[23:24:38] <Brisingr​Aerowing> It's a bit slow, but it's working. For certain values of working.
L658[23:25:48] <Izaya> funny that amazon has a near monopoly on mods for a microsoft game
L659[23:26:18] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Not for long, as Overwolf is taking over CF.
L660[23:26:33] <Ocawes​ome101> https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/gnuemacs.acro.exp.html
L661[23:26:36] <Izaya> ... Wasn't that like, software for streaming?
L662[23:26:36] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Amazon's keeping Twitch, though.
L663[23:27:00] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Twitch bought CF, then Amazon bought Twitch, and has now sold CF to Overwold.
L664[23:27:05] <Brisingr​Aerowing> *Overwolf.
L665[23:27:20] <Brisingr​Aerowing> It's a bit of a mess.
L666[23:27:22] <Izaya> > In June 2020, Overwolf acquired the CurseForge mod repository, for an undisclosed sum,[5] from Twitch.[6][7]
L667[23:27:30] <Izaya> I'm unsure how to feel about this.
L668[23:27:55] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Reddit went nuts when that was announced.
L669[23:28:42] <Izaya> They look to be independent, but all VC money
L670[23:28:58] <Izaya> (so not really independent, and in debt)
L671[23:29:20] <Ariri> I remember when that happened and my confusion was Overwolf still existing, last I heard of them was nearly a decade ago when they partnered with FreeJam in Robocraft
L672[23:29:45] <Ariri> No idea what the company actually does tbh
L673[23:29:58] <Ocawes​ome101> oh yeah robocraft
L674[23:30:08] <Ocawes​ome101> i bought that like, uh, maybe a year ago
L675[23:30:12] <Izaya> last I remember anything about them was when I was streaming KSP stuff from a shitty laptop while living in brisbane
L676[23:30:15] <Ariri> It was a great game... until it wasnt
L677[23:30:18] <Ocawes​ome101> i have like 40-50 hours on it lol
L678[23:30:21] <Izaya> that would've been ... 8 years ago?
L679[23:30:47] <Ariri> I have 733 hours in Robocraft
L680[23:31:03] <Izaya> 124.7 here
L681[23:31:04] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Unrelated, but there's yet another Chocobo mod.
L682[23:31:06] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/chocobo-knights-of-the-crafting-table
L683[23:31:17] <Ariri> I even tried giving it a few more tries with the updates, but they changed it yet again and I lost interest
L684[23:31:22] <Ariri> Freejam murdered themselves
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L686[23:31:47] <Izaya> at some point I heard they deleted all the money and changed building
L687[23:31:50] <Izaya> so all my progress was gone
L688[23:31:58] <Izaya> haven't touched it since
L689[23:32:22] <Ariri> When they removed megabots, it was all over
L690[23:32:35] <Ariri> I even made a UFE Deucalion, and it was beautiul
L691[23:32:53] <Izaya> That would've been something to see
L692[23:33:19] <Ariri> I had shareX back then so i might be able to find some screenshots
L693[23:34:17] <Izaya> I remember the change of having your armour strength decide your robot class made me give up for a while
L694[23:34:44] <Izaya> glass cannons are my thing
L695[23:35:03] <Ariri> Then people abused that and made copter snipers that were barely 20 blocks
L696[23:35:14] <Izaya> Those were fun
L697[23:35:52] <Izaya> honestly, as long as you had someone with a sniper they were easy to counter because they were so weak
L698[23:36:16] <Ariri> True, but if you didnt have a radar, you couldnt see them at most distances
L699[23:36:19] <Ariri> I wish the timeline was a bit different, who knows, maybe 2016 wouldnt have been... 2016 if FJ didnt screw over their own game
L700[23:36:56] <Izaya> Were radars in before the hover snipers got nerfed?
L701[23:36:59] <Izaya> I don't remember them
L702[23:37:19] <Ariri> Honestly not sure, some parts are a bit blurry
L703[23:37:51] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/dkG0I0j.png
L704[23:38:15] <Ariri> Also when cpu usage was inversely proportional to energy, most didnt use rails at lower tiers
L705[23:38:20] <Ocawes​ome101> and now freejam is working on some other games
L706[23:38:38] <Ocawes​ome101> cardlife (haven't seen much about it for a while) and game-maker or some shit
L707[23:38:54] <Izaya> I seem to remember them relaxing the "only one weapon type" rule but only after I stopped playing
L708[23:38:56] <Izaya> >.>
L709[23:39:26] <Ariri> Having multiple weapons was... interesting
L710[23:39:48] <Izaya> my whole thing was lightly armoured wheeled or hovering sniper robots
L711[23:41:14] <Ocawes​ome101> they have a 3 weapon loadout now
L712[23:41:31] <Ocawes​ome101> with one or two different types, idk
L713[23:41:36] <Snai​lDOS> That? Ha. That game died on me when I launched it.
L714[23:41:46] <Snai​lDOS> Just a black screen.
L715[23:41:48] <Izaya> https://highcat-media.maastodon.net/media_attachments/files/105/030/117/167/967/972/original/a93e3bff62a0aaa1.jpeg
L716[23:42:04] <Izaya> that there is peak aesthetic
L717[23:42:50] <Izaya> ben_mkiv|afk: thoughts on adding an OC-style half block case to OCDevices?
L718[23:43:07] <Izaya> bonus points for a compatible half block floppy drive
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L721[23:44:14] <Ocawes​ome101> while we're suggesting things, an all-in-one T1 computer type thing (builtin everything, except keyboard, looks like a typical all-in-one such as the Macintosh or the iMac) would be neat
L722[23:44:28] <ben_mkiv|afk> Izaya, no
L723[23:44:42] <Ariri> It seems like I might have closed the DM that I know I saw the screenshots of my Deucalion in recently... for certain reasons- but Ive reinstalled the game just to see if I exist
L724[23:44:52] <Izaya> fair, figured I'd ask
L725[23:44:59] <Ariri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/6F9M7zwpATRtT9C/preview
L726[23:45:04] <Izaya> there's already the 5150 case which works, it's just not quite the same aesthetic
L727[23:45:10] <ben_mkiv|afk> i think, it doesnt even work
L728[23:45:17] <ben_mkiv|afk> iirc i've tried it with the ibm case
L729[23:45:50] <Izaya> I've used the IBM case before for T1 stuff
L730[23:46:03] <Izaya> because I'm a cheap bastard and it was cheaper than the normal case
L731[23:46:06] <Ocawes​ome101> ben_mkiv|afk: see above from me if you haven't already :^)
L732[23:47:07] <ben_mkiv|afk> how far above?
L733[23:47:57] <Ocawes​ome101> shortly after izaya's suggestion
L734[23:49:13] <Ariri> Izaya, Ocawesome101: A quick throwback to how bot designs should be (as in having fun with designing and not just focusing on winning) and of course, Gary: https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/KRp6nYnGqJqiN5w
L735[23:49:27] <ben_mkiv|afk> nvm
L736[23:49:32] <ben_mkiv|afk> nah, im not adding anything to ocdevices
L737[23:49:37] <Ariri> Might want to mute it, I forgot my music goes through
L738[23:50:20] <ben_mkiv|afk> at least not in this universe, i probably did in an universe where OC was ported to current MC versions :P
L739[23:50:43] <Izaya> give it uh
L740[23:50:45] <Izaya> a few years
L741[23:51:20] <Ocawes​ome101> i see :P
L742[23:51:43] <Ariri> Damn this game was fun
L743[23:51:46] <Ariri> Such a shame
L744[23:53:40] <Izaya> wish there was a mode to mute tabs by default
L745[23:54:02] <Izaya> man that is a nice robot goddamn
L746[23:56:18] <CompanionCube> Izaya: today on obvious corruption: a PPE vendor established 7 weeks ago, using a cookiecutter template and pictures from alibaba got awarded a government contract
L747[23:56:31] <CompanionCube> not even trying smh
L748[23:57:25] <Izaya> CompanionCube: well, yesterday in australian politics: koalakiller, the premier of NSW, was banging some dude that has been admitting to blatant corruption for the last several weeks in court
L749[23:58:02] <Ariri> Izaya, if only my SE designs were half as good as my RC designs were >.>
L750[23:58:55] <Ariri> My current schematics for just the engines of any of my ships pale in comparison to the Odette
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