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L1[00:02:02] <Inari> Amanda: a
L2[00:03:19] <Amanda> Inari: b
L3[00:03:24] <Inari> No b
L4[00:03:25] <Inari> Just a
L5[00:03:40] <Amanda> ? Does not compute.
L6[00:03:43] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIUODDxfaw8
L7[00:03:44] <MichiBot> gawr gura loves you a too a | length: 7s | Likes: 5,848 Dislikes: 57 Views: 113,008 | by Anti | Published On 19/9/2020
L8[00:08:06] * Amanda doesn't understand the whole vtuber thing. Most of the lets plays I watch don't even have facecam
L9[00:09:08] <Inari> I prefer LP with facecam
L10[00:09:44] <Amanda> I don't care either way
L11[00:10:07] <Amanda> but it happens most the ones I regularly watchdon't have them
L12[00:10:43] * Inari turns Amanda into a VTuber
L13[00:23:37] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@port-92-192-60-32.dynamic.as20676.net) (Quit: Insert quantum chemistry joke here)
L14[00:31:33] * Amanda spends the entire video biting Inari
L15[00:31:35] <Amanda> %bite Inari
L16[00:31:36] <MichiBot> Ama​nda is trying to bite Ina​ri! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L17[00:43:57] <prisma> >:( why doesn't davfs2 automount
L18[00:54:34] ⇦ Quits: Inari (~Pinkishu@p4fe7e276.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)
L19[00:58:32] <Ar​iri> Inari http://tinyurl.com/y67u8vly
L20[00:58:47] <Forec​aster> left
L21[00:58:55] <Ar​iri> ack, blind again
L22[00:58:58] <Lizzy> right
L23[00:59:19] <Ar​iri> center
L24[01:00:12] <Ar​iri> %tell Inari Someone in chat: “Will you be my wife?” Gawr: “ehhh whats a wife?” https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/125649403162656768/757027877337170031/image0.jpg
L25[01:00:12] <MichiBot> Ar​iri: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L26[01:03:38] <Forec​aster> sigh, who put a CG on a station 50k Ls from the primary star >:
L27[01:06:27] <Forec​aster> although if it wasn't it probably would have been over already
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L29[01:28:42] <Amanda> %choose icecream for dinner or figure real food out
L30[01:28:42] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I sense some "figure real food out" in your future!
L31[01:28:54] <Amanda> I do as well! Just not tonight
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L33[01:37:02] <Amanda> Fuel Processor can not be fueled by Processed Fuel -- rude!
L34[01:37:12] <Amanda> Not letting me create a free energy loop
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L37[02:52:12] <Ko​dos> %tonk
L38[02:52:12] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket! Ko​dos! You beat Ar​iri's previous record of 2 hours, 19 minutes and 32 seconds (By 3 hours, 21 minutes and 16 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L39[02:52:13] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record is 5 hours, 40 minutes and 48 seconds! Kodos also gained 0.01005 (0.00335 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #8. Need 0.03335 more points to pass simo​n816!
L40[03:27:57] <prisma> i think Dolphin is drunk
L41[03:28:05] <prisma> >0 files, 0 folders
L42[03:28:18] <prisma> >output of ls: five folders
L43[03:28:24] <prisma> >properties window: 13 files, 5 subfolders
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L45[03:33:01] <Izaya> ls -a?
L46[03:40:36] <prisma> same, except for .
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L53[04:25:52] <prisma> oh NOW the folders show up
L54[04:28:25] <Amanda> They were stuck in traffic
L55[04:31:37] <Ar​iri> they had to cache a check at the bank
L56[04:33:36] <CompanionCube> was it a null pointer cheque? :3
L57[04:37:34] <prisma> null checking intensifies
L58[04:37:57] <prisma> i do `String chunk = StringArgumentType.getString(context, "chunk");` and then i check if `chunk` is null
L59[04:38:08] <prisma> even though Minecraft requires that argument
L60[04:38:23] ⇨ Joins: Ocawesome101 (~ocawesome@38.65.250.233)
L61[04:38:44] <prisma> (I think it doesn't even pass it to the handler if there aren't enough args)
L62[04:38:54] <Ocawesome101> o/
L63[04:39:31] <prisma> o/
L64[04:50:41] <CompanionCube> o/
L65[04:51:14] <bad at​ vijya> o/
L66[04:55:51] <CompanionCube> Izaya: https://kb.netgear.com/000062364/GC108P-GC108PP-Firmware-Version-1-0-5-8 netflix engages in a war against the users of a specific switch
L67[04:56:18] <CompanionCube> *netgear
L68[04:56:20] <CompanionCube> 'Starting from firmware version 1.0.5.4, product registration is required to unlock full access to the local browser UI.You can login and access all features through the local browser UI 3 times without registering the switch through your netgear.com account.A limited feature set is available without registration. For more information, visit the NETGEAR knowledge base article at
L69[04:56:21] <CompanionCube> https://kb.netgear.com/000061174.'
L70[04:57:02] <prisma> what the actual fuck?
L71[04:58:35] <CompanionCube> prisma: don't worry this is ok because it's advertised as a cloud(tm) swirch or something like that
L72[04:58:49] <bad at​ vijya> why
L73[05:00:28] <CompanionCube> maybe they want another chance to shill for subscribing to the cloud mangemenf system the switch is supposedly advertised as having?
L74[05:02:05] * CompanionCube found it on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24530009
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L76[05:15:27] <Izaya> amazing
L77[05:19:45] <bad at​ vijya> [loads shotgun]
L78[05:23:43] <CompanionCube> Izaya: btw earlier i watched the old 'pyney's warhouse' ad; good pun
L79[05:45:32] ⇦ Quits: prisma (~prisma@22.63.255.123.static.snap.net.nz) (Ping timeout: 189 seconds)
L80[06:01:49] <bad at​ vijya> http://tinyurl.com/y2n4tkrv
L81[06:11:01] <ThePi​Guy24> physics
L82[06:45:25] <Sap​hire> https://twitter.com/kindofsquishy/status/1306355884650455040?s=19
L83[06:47:21] <bad at​ vijya> oh yea
L84[07:00:56] <Amanda> You know. I'm beginning to wonder if anybody at Intel who works on their GPU stack actually uses Linux, or their drivers
L85[07:01:47] <Amanda> Linux 5.8.9 causes the screen to glitch out and flicker to unusability after running a game for awhile (or just in general, maybe )
L86[07:03:05] <Amanda> %choose is it a sign from the goddesses to sleep?
L87[07:03:05] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Hm. I can't choose. Ask me again in a couple of minutes.
L88[07:03:38] * Amanda decides it is
L89[07:03:46] * Amanda snugs up around Elfi, zzzmews
L90[07:06:05] <Amanda> %remindthem Amanda 6h pin ita to linux 5.7
L91[07:06:05] <MichiBot> I'll remind Amanda about "pin ita to linux 5.7" at 09/20/2020 12:06:05 PM
L92[07:06:58] <Amanda> Night nerds
L93[07:07:35] <Izaya> o/
L94[07:11:23] <Ar​iri> Izaya: Could you get the stuff from my probably body and put it in a cargo container next to my starboard side airlock?
L95[07:12:13] <Ar​iri> And thanks to Windows for being an actual *sswipe of an OS
L96[07:15:46] ⇦ Quits: Ocawesome101 (~ocawesome@38.65.250.233) (Quit: I'm probably going to bed.)
L97[07:26:16] <flame​oninja> is there a command to insert an item into a machine/storage
L98[07:38:43] <Ariri> @flameoninja The wiki for all OC stuff is here: http://ocd.cil.li/
L99[07:59:35] <Izaya> Got a script for my base that toggles show on HUD for the merge blocks I use to designate docking areas depending on whether an associated connector is locked.
L100[08:01:05] <Izaya> C# makes me want to die.
L101[08:01:58] <Kristo​pher38> Izaya: i once implemented another idea - it toggled show on HUD for blocks that are damaged so you know what to weld
L102[08:02:10] <Izaya> oooh, that'd be useful
L103[08:02:32] <Kristo​pher38> Wdym makes you wanna die, it's nice
L104[08:02:39] <Izaya> OOP hell.
L105[08:03:50] <Kristo​pher38> It actually fits really well into a game like that
L106[08:04:05] <Izaya> Everything is an IMyUselessGarbage and it's a PITA to work with
L107[08:04:26] <Kristo​pher38> Because you're interacting with objects in the real world
L108[08:04:39] <Kristo​pher38> I mean, SE world
L109[08:05:42] <Izaya> Was gonna say, what'd I miss?
L110[08:05:44] <Izaya> :p
L111[08:06:44] <Kristo​pher38> Can you provide a more specific example? I still can't see your point and it seems to me like "I don't like it cause I don't understand it"
L112[08:07:09] <Izaya> My biggest issue is the absurdly wordy title case identifiers for everything
L113[08:07:25] <Izaya> followed by the amount of non-doing things words I have to put in
L114[08:08:19] <Kristo​pher38> Oh I see, I guess that can make you go puke when you're not used to ot
L115[08:08:26] <Kristo​pher38> to it*
L116[08:08:47] <Izaya> Like, why is it an IMyShipConnector when it could be a SEConnector or something
L117[08:08:58] <Izaya> I assume it's convention, but it's dumb and they should get rid of that convention.
L118[08:09:46] <Kristo​pher38> Actually it's a convention that they've got in their game code
L119[08:10:02] <Izaya> It's even worse than I thought, then.
L120[08:11:19] <Izaya> Anyway, my complaints are basically every little thing involved.
L121[08:11:42] <Izaya> It feels like you're really meant to write it with autocomplete in an IDE and neither the in-game editor nor vim gives me that so it's just super clunky
L122[08:12:20] <Izaya> I mean, vim could, but I don't have it set up because autocomplete annoys me on the best of days.
L123[08:13:12] <Kristo​pher38> `I` refers to it being an interface
L124[08:13:36] <Kristo​pher38> Oooh so you're writing in-game?
L125[08:13:58] <Izaya> nah, in vim, because in-game copy/paste is broken
L126[08:15:10] <Kristo​pher38> Let me tell you, you're gonna have a really good experience writing in visual studio with something called MDK
L127[08:15:24] <Izaya> the malware-dev thingo?
L128[08:15:29] <Kristo​pher38> Yes
L129[08:15:45] <Kristo​pher38> Autocomplete, syntax highlighting, one-click deployment to game
L130[08:15:52] <Izaya> I mean, it's neat and all
L131[08:15:54] <Kristo​pher38> It's great
L132[08:15:57] <Izaya> but I didn't think VS ran on Linux
L133[08:16:27] <Kristo​pher38> You're playing SE on Linux?
L134[08:16:39] <Izaya> of course?
L135[08:16:53] <Kristo​pher38> Last time I've checked it was Windows only
L136[08:16:55] <Kristo​pher38> Wine?
L137[08:16:58] <Izaya> yeah
L138[08:17:09] <Izaya> The only windows box I have is running the server and I'm not doing anything but clicking buttons over RDP
L139[08:20:45] <Izaya> The only reason it has Windows is because SE doesn't have a dedicated server binary for any worthwhile OS so I dug up a machine I wasn't using
L140[08:23:25] <Izaya> Maybe I should see if the SE patcher can work for the DS
L141[08:23:40] <Izaya> then I could shelve that machine again and put the server on an actual server
L142[08:26:29] <Snai​lDOS> Wtf this zorya "bios" is fricken awsome
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L144[08:49:17] <RaidenProject> Has anyone tried to build Computronics from source before? Having a hard time resolving its dependencies
L145[08:50:15] <asie> I have, a long time ago
L146[08:50:25] <asie> what's up
L147[08:54:08] <RaidenProject> It has a bunch of dependencies on other mods as evidenced by all the "cannot find symbol" errors, should I just download the latest version of each mod and dump them all in the libs folder?
L148[08:55:02] <asie> eh, no
L149[08:55:05] <asie> that won't work
L150[08:55:06] <asie> they're obfuscated
L151[08:55:12] ⇨ Joins: Inari (~Pinkishu@p508efbb5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
L152[08:55:12] <asie> well, SRG-ified, technically
L153[08:55:25] <RaidenProject> how is it supposed to work?
L154[08:55:35] <asie> pain
L155[08:55:40] <asie> ask Vexatos when he wakes up, he's been maintaining the mod nowadays
L156[08:56:00] <asie> I *think* all the necessary mod dependencies are either auto-downloaded or already in libs/
L157[08:56:02] <asie> at least, as of 1.12.2
L158[08:56:32] <asie> but Vex would know better
L159[08:57:11] <RaidenProject> I will, thanks
L160[08:59:06] <S3> obfuscation shouldn't prevent things from talking to eachother... I used to write mods in modloader days against obfuscated code and it worked fine because the JVM figured it out
L161[08:59:17] <RaidenProject> I'm trying to expand the soundcard to add a bit more flexibility, like a duty cycle for the square wave
L162[08:59:34] <S3> unless they're doing something really bad
L163[08:59:47] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L164[08:59:47] <MichiBot> By my throth! Compan​ionCube! You beat Ko​dos's previous record of 5 hours, 40 minutes and 48 seconds (By 26 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L165[08:59:48] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.40927944. Position #2 Need 0.0995064 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L166[09:00:33] <S3> So I believe it has come to the point where people literally can not read
L167[09:00:35] <Dev​tron> http://tinyurl.com/yxm5wltr
L168[09:00:54] <Dev​tron> http://tinyurl.com/y6hod5y6
L169[09:00:57] <Dev​tron> what am i doing wrong here
L170[09:01:12] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/034216544f5bf685a35702b52c6a404036f4f7e284d75362e5e20dd8e728f433.jpg
L171[09:02:29] <Forec​aster> you have to require component
L172[09:03:29] <S3> ^
L173[09:03:45] <S3> I also suggest you simplify that code, a lot, but definitely require component
L174[09:04:17] <Dev​tron> how can it be simplified that way
L175[09:04:25] <Dev​tron> i am use to c/c++ not lua
L176[09:05:24] <S3> just remember everything in Lua is a variable including functions
L177[09:05:31] <Forec​aster> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/asekekacex
L178[09:06:07] <S3> if you're calling component.redstone a lot see what Forecaster did
L179[09:06:17] <Dev​tron> i am thanks
L180[09:06:19] <S3> now you can just do rs.setOutput
L181[09:06:22] <S3> the other thing is you should probably be using a function
L182[09:06:46] <S3> that looks like something you are going to reuse by the end of the day but I wouldn't know
L183[09:07:38] <Dev​tron> so put all the calls into functions
L184[09:07:49] <S3> Izaya what am I looking at
L185[09:07:52] <Dev​tron> i was trying to assign them to value names
L186[09:08:18] <S3> Are you just trying to pulse the output?
L187[09:08:29] <Dev​tron> yes , set it low and high
L188[09:08:58] <Dev​tron> trying to create a timer, where it keeps the top open while the bottom is closed, then switches it
L189[09:09:19] <Forec​aster> you probably want an os.sleep inbetween
L190[09:09:34] <Forec​aster> also why are you assigning the return value to a variable?
L191[09:09:37] <Forec​aster> are you using that?
L192[09:09:50] <Dev​tron> witch one
L193[09:09:54] <Dev​tron> which
L194[09:10:12] <Forec​aster> all of them
L195[09:10:56] <Dev​tron> I want to add that command to a variable so i dont have to type in that comp...... name all the time
L196[09:11:16] <Izaya> S3: the underside of the SKS Europa Relay Station
L197[09:11:25] <Forec​aster> it's not a command
L198[09:11:28] <Forec​aster> it's a function call
L199[09:11:29] <Dev​tron> been two years since last i did any OX coding
L200[09:11:31] <Forec​aster> and you can't do that
L201[09:12:50] <Dev​tron> how would you do it
L202[09:13:18] <Forec​aster> make a wrapper function
L203[09:13:54] <Forec​aster> setOutput returns a number which is the previous output value I believe, you're just setting that to the variables now
L204[09:14:08] <Forec​aster> make some wrapper functions*
L205[09:15:26] <S3> you could squeeze an os.sleep in there if you wanted but it would sleep twice
L206[09:15:49] <S3> waiting for my first message to send to IRC... wow I am lagging
L207[09:16:17] <S3> if you don't want to use os.sleep, you could use something like: function pulse_output(side) for _ = 15,0,-15 do rs.setOutput(side, _) end end
L208[09:19:32] <Dev​tron> does os.sleep not pause the execution of the code?
L209[09:19:53] <Forec​aster> yes
L210[09:19:58] <Dev​tron> That would not work
L211[09:20:13] <Dev​tron> I need to monitor an output from a machine when it goes on and off
L212[09:21:08] <Dev​tron> just found my old reactor code from a few years ago, guess i can use the way i did it for the new code
L213[09:21:10] <Dev​tron> http://tinyurl.com/y5uo7ww6
L214[09:22:18] <Dev​tron> wish there was a way to make this code in an ide and then import it
L215[09:22:29] <Forec​aster> wget
L216[09:22:31] <Forec​aster> pastebin
L217[09:22:35] <Forec​aster> copy-paste
L218[09:22:41] <RaidenProject> ok looks like dumping all the mods in the libs folder worked out
L219[09:23:26] <RaidenProject> had to download CC, OC, Flamingo, MaryTTS and StorageDrawers manually, the rest just downloaded automatically
L220[09:23:50] <S3> RaidenProject: sounds about right
L221[09:24:49] <S3> I would rewrite it all lol
L222[09:24:54] <S3> that code looks horrifying
L223[09:27:23] <S3> I haven't used them in forever
L224[09:27:25] <S3> Also I think there might be redstone events which may prevent the need for getting inputs manually..
L225[09:28:16] <Forec​aster> there is
L226[09:28:26] <S3> Anyways, I can just imagine the crazy ammount of side effects you are going to get with that spaghetti code
L227[09:28:41] <S3> (its not spaghetti code, but if you used goto it would be HAHAHAHA)
L228[09:32:27] <S3> also you're not checking anything. this script has nondeterministic behavior.
L229[09:32:54] <S3> but before that, you're not checking what happens if those components aren't available
L230[09:33:22] <S3> I guess it's not that important
L231[09:34:08] <S3> wait a minite you're requiring sides 3 times
L232[09:34:11] <Forec​aster> I never do that in my programs unless I'm making them for general use
L233[09:34:34] <Michiyo> Gotta make sure it's loaded!
L234[09:34:36] <S3> Devtron I would just ditch the old code, heh
L235[09:34:49] <Dev​tron> well it workes
L236[09:34:50] <Dev​tron> :;D
L237[09:35:03] <S3> The fact that it works is a bug not a feature
L238[09:35:06] <Dev​tron> building new code for this assembly line
L239[09:35:22] <Dev​tron> need a chest that has an input and an output, one can only be open at a time
L240[09:35:34] <S3> Good god I hope you don't paste any of your c/c++
L241[09:35:38] <S3> I fear for my eyes
L242[09:35:42] <Dev​tron> it then monitors the assembly machine when it is running, and opens output when its ready for new order
L243[09:36:06] <Dev​tron> my c++ code aint bad, just could not remember heads or tails about lua
L244[09:36:27] <Dev​tron> What i really want to learn is to create a simple gui in lua
L245[09:36:35] <S3> A computer engineer would get fired if he told somebody "well it works"
L246[09:36:36] <S3> lol
L247[09:36:57] <S3> depends what you mean by gui
L248[09:36:59] <Dev​tron> yeah guess what education i am taking
L249[09:37:19] <Dev​tron> not using the print command and doing print 20 times to clear screen
L250[09:37:30] <S3> I never got around to it, but I intended to make a port of dialog from *nix to OC
L251[09:37:34] <S3> I just never did
L252[09:37:54] <Forec​aster> that's what the term library is for
L253[09:38:10] <Forec​aster> or just use the gpu component
L254[09:40:10] <S3> Devtron Also: All C++ code is bad. It doesn't matter how much you try to convince me. C++ is bad and you know it :P
L255[09:40:40] <Dev​tron> There is not a single program in this world, that contains good code
L256[09:40:43] <S3> I'm giving you a hard time
L257[09:41:44] <S3> I would disagree with that entirely, however with the way programmers are headed these days... I'm convinced a little on that.
L258[09:42:01] <Dev​tron> Well think about it
L259[09:42:14] <Dev​tron> write some code that you think is even good or perfect
L260[09:42:20] <Dev​tron> now look at it a year from now
L261[09:42:32] <S3> Ok sure. Hold on.
L262[09:42:36] <S3> Let me thing
L263[09:43:14] <Dev​tron> I mean even basic has its problems print "Hello World!"
L264[09:43:24] <Dev​tron> the overhead on print is insain 😄
L265[09:43:53] <S3> That code in itself is perfect enough. Make it better why don't you
L266[09:43:54] <S3> A9 FF 8D 21 D0 00
L267[09:44:26] <S3> BASIC is the root of all evil
L268[09:44:35] <Dev​tron> Does that work on a x86, 6502, 68000 cpu?
L269[09:44:46] <S3> that would be a 6502
L270[09:44:58] <S3> STA #$FF; STA $D021; BRK
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L273[09:45:27] <S3> on a C64 with a 6510 it will change the border color of the background in the video chip
L274[09:45:36] <Dev​tron> hehe
L275[09:46:12] <Dev​tron> 10 PRINT "{CLR/HOME}"
L276[09:46:13] <Dev​tron> 20 PRINT CHR$(205.5 + RND(1));
L277[09:46:13] <Dev​tron> 40 GOTO 20
L278[09:46:47] <Dev​tron> I learned to code on a Vic 20
L279[09:46:52] <S3> you forgot to RANDOMIZE TIMER
L280[09:46:56] <S3> if you're using qbasic :P
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L282[09:47:12] <S3> at least, that was a convenient way to seed the rng
L283[09:47:38] <S3> yeah.. I didn't have a vic20
L284[09:47:53] <S3> however the coco ran colorforth which was much better than basic in every way
L285[09:47:55] <S3> I had a coco
L286[09:48:11] <Dev​tron> lol
L287[09:48:32] <Dev​tron> I am from Denmark, to my knowledge the TRS line was not here
L288[09:48:59] <S3> sad part is
L289[09:49:04] <S3> I still use mine
L290[09:49:10] <S3> I have two now actually
L291[09:50:10] <Dev​tron> Aint nostalgia great
L292[09:56:45] <S3> Isn't it fun to work for an ISP and see an 80 gbit router flatline on the bandwidth graphs?
L293[09:57:09] <S3> Devtron I just never needed anything better :D
L294[09:57:18] <S3> My compuiter in my office runs MS-DOS 6...
L295[09:58:33] <Dev​tron> PC's retro dont interest me that much
L296[09:58:44] <Dev​tron> I am more intersted in pre 1990 systems
L297[09:58:55] <S3> get yourself a PDP
L298[09:59:00] <Dev​tron> commodore, apple, atari, and so on
L299[09:59:01] <Dev​tron> lol
L300[09:59:37] <S3> I prefer older computers because they are simpler and don't have a bunch of crap in them
L301[09:59:52] <S3> plus I can make hardware for them easier
L302[09:59:56] <Izaya> /o/
L303[10:00:04] <S3> its super easy to make your own ISA card
L304[10:00:28] <Izaya> So the script to toggle dock visibility can now set a beacon
L305[10:00:32] <Dev​tron> anything bad about this test function http://tinyurl.com/y4gwmvyu
L306[10:00:34] <Izaya> like, set the HUD text of the beacon
L307[10:00:59] <Dev​tron> also local is that only local to the current scope, or global scope, so it can be use in a function i create later
L308[10:01:08] <S3> Devtron: You aren't using the rest of the parameters!
L309[10:01:25] <Dev​tron> s3?
L310[10:01:29] <Forec​aster> local means local to the current scope (which includes sub-scopes)
L311[10:01:43] <Forec​aster> and you should be using local for variables and functions
L312[10:01:46] <S3> yeah so you should always use local if you can get away with it imo
L313[10:02:58] <Dev​tron> http://tinyurl.com/y39y3f27
L314[10:03:00] <Dev​tron> better =
L315[10:03:01] <Dev​tron> ?
L316[10:03:16] <S3> its also hard to escape this with Lua everything is a variable, but if you forget that everything is a variable and separate variables from functions, it is my opinion that you shouldn't declare variables outside of functions, UNLESS they are things like components or libraries.
L317[10:03:53] <Dev​tron> yeah, NO global variables, at univercity i keep teaching my class mates that
L318[10:03:56] <Dev​tron> to no avail 😦
L319[10:04:24] <S3> I do a lot of functional programming so
L320[10:04:46] <S3> its an easy thing to do that makes a good habbit
L321[10:05:34] <Dev​tron> if i need to call something like component.restone.getInput(sides.north) a LOT
L322[10:05:45] <Dev​tron> whats the best way to do it so i dont have to write many lines
L323[10:05:54] <Dev​tron> just put it in a small function and return it?
L324[10:06:05] <S3> could do that
L325[10:06:12] <S3> think declaratively
L326[10:06:41] <S3> you can also write functions as if they were macros if you wish, but Lua sadly does not have macros
L327[10:06:43] <Dev​tron> so there is a desclare to make a name that command?
L328[10:06:57] <Dev​tron> yeah was hoping for a macro
L329[10:06:59] <Forec​aster> you don't have to return anything
L330[10:07:05] <Forec​aster> just write a wrapper function
L331[10:07:24] <Dev​tron> well i need to return when i need the value
L332[10:07:45] <Dev​tron> then again i could just make that compare in a function and return true or false
L333[10:08:35] <S3> you could just be like local foo = function() return rs.getInput(sides.north)
L334[10:08:44] <S3> if you did local rs = component.redstone earlier
L335[10:08:50] <S3> don't forget the end
L336[10:09:13] <S3> you can also have default function parameters
L337[10:09:15] <S3> i.e.
L338[10:09:20] <Dev​tron> ah 1 line functions work
L339[10:09:39] <Dev​tron> so end after that function you wrote?
L340[10:09:46] <S3> local foo = function(side) side = side or sides.north return rs.getInput(side) end
L341[10:09:52] <S3> yeah like that
L342[10:10:00] <Dev​tron> thanks
L343[10:10:11] <S3> so you could do foo()
L344[10:10:16] <Dev​tron> almost lambda like
L345[10:10:16] <S3> or foo(sides.south)
L346[10:10:21] <S3> that one would default to north unless you specified another side
L347[10:10:47] <S3> Like I said, I do a lot of functional programming and I write in Elixir which is decalarative, so I work a lot with tiny functions that work together to make larger ones.
L348[10:10:55] <S3> because Erlang
L349[10:11:15] <S3> I wish Lua had pattern matching though heheh
L350[10:11:59] <Dev​tron> pattern matching?
L351[10:12:15] <S3> Yep. Erlang (And Elixir) have prolog based function parameter syntax
L352[10:13:52] <S3> here's an example of a function that finds the greatest common denominator in Elixir, which is two functions:
L353[10:13:55] <S3> def hcd(a, 0), do: abs(a)
L354[10:14:02] <S3> oops replace the h with g for gcd
L355[10:14:04] <S3> so...
L356[10:14:08] <S3> def gcd(a, 0), do: abs(a)
L357[10:14:36] <S3> def hcd(a, b), do: gcd(b, ram(a, b))
L358[10:14:39] <S3> and that's it
L359[10:15:23] <S3> its very fast and can find the gcd of numbers that are hundreds and hundreds of digits long faster than you can blink after you hit enter
L360[10:15:56] <Dev​tron> ah ok
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L362[10:16:08] <S3> crap I did hcd again!
L363[10:16:12] <S3> both are supposed to be def gcd
L364[10:16:22] <openpoor> Hi!
L365[10:16:24] <Dev​tron> Whats a good way to implement a timer
L366[10:16:24] <S3> it will call gcd depending what the parameters pattern matchg to
L367[10:16:34] <S3> Devtron all timers suck
L368[10:16:37] <S3> on OC
L369[10:16:40] <S3> there is no RTC
L370[10:17:00] <S3> there is a way to get the uptime of the computer though
L371[10:17:06] <S3> much like how you would do with qbasic
L372[10:17:17] <openpoor> xD, you can use your computer's clock to get the real time
L373[10:17:19] <Forec​aster> the event library has a timer
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L375[10:17:32] <Dev​tron> so i cant start timer1 and have it run?
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L377[10:18:14] <Forec​aster> ~oc timer
L378[10:18:14] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-os.time
L379[10:18:28] <OpenPoor> Oc timer!!!!
L380[10:18:32] <Forec​aster> no...
L381[10:18:33] <Forec​aster> https://ocdoc.cil.li/api:event?s[]=timer
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L383[10:20:12] <Dev​tron> guess i could os.sleep and create a 100ms pause, and just count 10 pauses and reset the counter
L384[10:20:26] <Forec​aster> or just use the event library?
L385[10:20:28] <S3> Oh yeah there is that too
L386[10:21:10] <Dev​tron> any simple example on how to create a timer with it
L387[10:21:10] <S3> I dont think you will get 100ms acuracy
L388[10:21:12] <S3> also,
L389[10:21:32] <Dev​tron> 100ms is just a nice rount number, dont care if it is 100 or 200
L390[10:21:55] <Dev​tron> i just need it to wait about 0.5-1 seconds before it makes a switch
L391[10:22:30] <Forec​aster> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/miciribeqa
L392[10:23:22] <elord​enador> I want to make a computer to make a BSOD for prank without deleting files or flashing bios
L393[10:23:27] <Forec​aster> that will call `myCallback` every 10 seconds, `math.huge` makes it repeat indefinitely
L394[10:23:58] <Dev​tron> i need to do some presudo code
L395[10:24:05] <Forec​aster> (or until cancelled with `event.cancel`)
L396[10:26:11] <Forec​aster> and the timer resolution is apparently to 0.05 seconds
L397[10:27:59] <S3> That is very very debatable
L398[10:28:10] <S3> on multiplayer it is much much higher I bet
L399[10:28:17] <Forec​aster> what do you mean
L400[10:28:21] <Forec​aster> the wiki can't lie
L401[10:28:26] <S3> haha
L402[10:28:45] <S3> also usually when IW as playing around with timing raw the best I could often get was about 150-200 ms
L403[10:28:47] <S3> MAYBE
L404[10:29:25] <S3> whoever wrote that has a much faster computer than I
L405[10:39:29] <Izaya> Hm.
L406[10:39:36] <Izaya> This didn't work as well as I hoped.
L407[10:39:40] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/1609a4e3a64de1c0cd561e6f21778f7724141fc5b06e0c6539d83e5e5684164f.jpg
L408[10:41:19] <S3> lol
L409[10:41:32] <Izaya> Takes up two parking spots now, rather than just the one.
L410[10:42:07] <S3> Neat window dome
L411[10:42:20] <Izaya> in the mid-top-left?
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L413[10:45:32] <Dev​tron> when creating a function do i need to write function in front of it?
L414[10:46:18] <Forec​aster> yes
L415[10:47:31] <Dev​tron> how do you gues paste code here
L416[10:49:36] <Dev​tron> event timers do they run on a seperate thread?
L417[10:49:44] <S3> use a pastebin. the great Michiyo has one
L418[10:50:36] <Forec​aster> I just use discord's formatting for smaller snippets
L419[10:50:42] <ta​co> heép
L420[10:50:43] <Forec​aster> for longer snippets use a paste service
L421[10:50:55] <ta​co> helo [Edited]
L422[10:51:26] <Dev​tron> https://pastebin.com/DjL6iVBj
L423[10:51:35] <Izaya> Anything over 4 lines you write here gets pasted anyway
L424[10:51:35] <Dev​tron> would that work to have a timer reset after x time
L425[10:51:57] <Dev​tron> thats over 4 lines 😄
L426[10:52:16] <Forec​aster> yeah but it still takes space on this side, so I prefer compacting it into a link
L427[10:52:34] <Dev​tron> ah
L428[10:53:08] <Dev​tron> all i need is 3 timers
L429[10:53:12] <Forec​aster> that's small enough that I'd just embed it
L430[10:53:40] <Forec​aster> also that's not a valid `event.timer` call
L431[10:53:45] <Dev​tron> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/setuwezagi
L432[10:53:50] <Forec​aster> the second argument needs to be a function
L433[10:53:56] <Dev​tron> humm does not come with that nice code window
L434[10:54:11] <S3> oh yeah if you're on Discord Devtron just do ```lua and then put your code and ```
L435[10:54:17] <S3> ack
L436[10:54:19] <Forec​aster> you have to begin with three backticks (`) and end with three backticks
L437[10:54:25] <S3> 3 backticks, lua, then the code, then 3 backticks
L438[10:54:34] <Dev​tron> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ocukuvaxeg
L439[10:54:37] <Dev​tron> humm
L440[10:54:38] <Forec​aster> if you put "Lua" without the quotes after the first 3 ticks you get the nice color coding as well
L441[10:54:39] <Dev​tron> lua
L442[10:54:58] <Dev​tron> first 3 ticks?
L443[10:55:43] <Forec​aster> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ocuheboruy
L444[10:55:58] <Forec​aster> ... ah well, ignore the backslashes
L445[10:56:01] <S3> huh. A character in unicode I can not see
L446[10:56:27] <Dev​tron> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/acebutojax
L447[10:56:50] <Forec​aster> you don't have to keep sending it
L448[10:56:58] <Dev​tron> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/uvetojayep
L449[10:57:02] <Forec​aster> it displays what it will look like before you send
L450[10:57:09] <Dev​tron> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/haselenava [Edited]
L451[10:57:17] <Dev​tron> there we go
L452[10:57:59] <Dev​tron> so this sould work, i reset the timer output and call the timer reset function, and it then resets after 10 seconds
L453[10:58:09] <Forec​aster> uh, no
L454[10:58:11] <S3> My rooster is going off wtf
L455[10:58:23] <Forec​aster> like I said, the second argument needs to be a function
L456[10:58:28] <S3> oh I guess the sun is coming up
L457[10:58:46] <Dev​tron> the timer ?
L458[10:59:30] <S3> its a callback
L459[10:59:49] <S3> think of it as a function pointer I guess in C
L460[11:00:19] <Dev​tron> oh now i get it
L461[11:01:05] <S3> it actually is a pointer under the hood
L462[11:01:12] <S3> a reference is just a pointer with a type
L463[11:01:42] <S3> To see what I mean do print(function() end)
L464[11:03:15] <Dev​tron> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/alemoquroz
L465[11:03:15] <S3> I was curious how smart the bot is
L466[11:03:18] <Dev​tron> so like that
L467[11:03:20] <S3> ```
L468[11:03:20] <S3> > print(function() end)
L469[11:03:20] <S3> function: 0x7fffcb1e2ed0
L470[11:03:20] <S3> ```
L471[11:03:51] <Forec​aster> that didn't embed
L472[11:04:03] <S3> oh well
L473[11:04:06] <Dev​tron> my code?
L474[11:04:11] <S3> no my test
L475[11:04:26] <Forec​aster> probably has to be one message
L476[11:05:45] <S3> Probably
L477[11:06:34] * S3 screams
L478[11:06:38] <S3> global variables!
L479[11:08:44] <S3> Btw there is a major flaw in your code Devtron
L480[11:08:49] <Forec​aster> time to go through all of MichiBot's hooks and strip out most trycatches
L481[11:09:05] <Forec​aster> because who needs 'em
L482[11:09:08] <S3> you are missing a coroutine.yield() or equivalent call in your while loop
L483[11:09:27] <S3> that program will crash without it
L484[11:09:46] <S3> ACTUALLY
L485[11:09:53] <S3> it may not because you're using event
L486[11:10:08] <S3> its theoretucallty yielding
L487[11:10:27] <Forec​aster> Theoretically yielding is my favourite band
L488[11:10:40] <S3> wth lol
L489[11:10:51] <S3> That's a band?
L490[11:11:00] <Forec​aster> I dunno, probably not
L491[11:11:23] <S3> Just keep in mind that in normal situations with infinite or lengthy loops you want to yield
L492[11:11:54] <S3> Thanks Forecaster
L493[11:11:55] <S3> you just named the name of a band I will use in my book
L494[11:12:07] <Forec​aster> what book
L495[11:12:29] <S3> A book short story I am writing about the futah
L496[11:12:44] <S3> 0no name yet
L497[11:12:59] <S3> It will be the basis of my game I am making
L498[11:14:14] <Forec​aster> a game about the past?
L499[11:15:00] <S3> it is way way way into the future
L500[11:15:03] <S3> actually yes
L501[11:15:03] <S3> and is about the past
L502[11:15:21] <Forec​aster> well time is a circle
L503[11:15:29] <Forec​aster> or maybe an egg
L504[11:15:56] <S3> or perhaps an n-D circle
L505[11:16:18] <S3> the egg is its deviation
L506[11:18:51] *** MajGenRelativity_ is now known as MajGenRelativity
L507[11:31:18] <S3> MajGenRelativity:
L508[11:31:29] <MajGenRelativity> Yes?
L509[11:31:36] <S3> nothin
L510[11:39:34] <Forec​aster> agh, there are so many hooks
L511[11:47:42] <Snai​lDOS> Any os with GUI? (not mineos)
L512[12:02:01] <Izaya> Is there such a thing as gravity police? I hope not, because I feel like I'd probably be on their watch list.
L513[12:02:06] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/a339f6fb1c2c6d41cbe6a090e61806bfcebbb4740d9f551972c00d56dfc585de.jpg
L514[12:02:09] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/161a302d59959d1ccd5371d3d4d8efe46f62911105e5d3b5921bcf7e16449bc1.jpg
L515[12:03:12] <Forec​aster> well, there's an old game called G-Police
L516[12:06:59] <Forecaster> %restart
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L521[12:12:03] <Dev​tron> in have an error here and i cant see it
L522[12:12:06] <Dev​tron> http://tinyurl.com/y2fqod9f
L523[12:12:27] <Dev​tron> http://tinyurl.com/y24whdt7
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L525[12:15:46] <B​ob> you aren't closing any of your if statements
L526[12:16:01] <B​ob> so it just becomes utterly confused
L527[12:20:07] <Dev​tron> thank you
L528[12:20:25] <Dev​tron> who ever desided to make code this way deserves a kick
L529[12:21:52] <SquidDev> %tonk
L530[12:21:52] <MichiBot> Kapow! Squi​dDev! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 22 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L531[12:21:53] <MichiBot> SquidDev's new record is 3 hours, 22 minutes and 5 seconds! SquidDev also gained 0.00337 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.01970416 more points to pass Li​zzy!
L532[12:22:24] <Forec​aster> I mean, you wrote it :P
L533[12:28:39] <Dev​tron> are the multi line comments for lua?
L534[12:29:08] <Forec​aster> have you tried googling these really simple questions?
L535[12:29:23] <Dev​tron> i did, but got error when using it
L536[12:30:58] <Dev​tron> http://tinyurl.com/y2kes7wy
L537[12:31:24] <Dev​tron> http://tinyurl.com/y6kmahaj
L538[12:32:11] <Forec​aster> you need two dashes before the ending brackets
L539[12:32:42] <SquidDev> No you don't.
L540[12:33:14] <SquidDev> There should be nothing wrong with that code - it works fine for me.
L541[12:33:29] <Dev​tron> time to restart client
L542[12:33:39] <SquidDev> Restarting won't help - what does the rest of the program look like?
L543[12:34:20] <Dev​tron> the rest works , when i add comments it gives that error
L544[12:34:32] <Dev​tron> http://tinyurl.com/y6kd8eqh
L545[12:41:27] <DaCompu​terNerd> Try adding hyphens before the ]]
L546[12:41:30] <DaCompu​terNerd> Two
L547[12:42:19] <Dev​tron> waiting on client to start
L548[12:59:37] <t20kdc> Izaya: this reminds me of that painting that's generally pointed to as "this is what weird geometry looks like" involving the staircases on walls
L549[12:59:53] <Izaya> escher or something
L550[12:59:56] <Izaya> that's what I was going for
L551[12:59:59] <Forec​aster> https://i.imgur.com/WThq2x6.gifv
L552[13:06:06] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: pin ita to linux 5.7
L553[13:17:15] <S3> That poor cat
L554[13:17:47] <S3> because camel / title case is the devil
L555[13:17:56] <S3> The one thing Devtron does right is use underscores
L556[13:21:12] <S3> Izaya, you know what sucks about working all night?
L557[13:21:23] <Izaya> the morning after
L558[13:21:25] <S3> being tired but not sleeping the next day
L559[13:21:28] <S3> yeah
L560[13:22:33] <S3> Also Devtron, Lua properly handles TCO so make use of it as much as you can where use case permits
L561[13:38:26] <Forec​aster> %sip
L562[13:38:28] <MichiBot> You drink a freezing grass potion (New!). Forecaster feels the need to use "%fling".
L563[13:38:46] <Forec​aster> %fling a triceratops
L564[13:38:46] <MichiBot> Forec​aster is flinging something at jac​kie! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L565[13:43:49] <MichiBot> Forecaster flings a triceratops in a random direction. It hits jackie right where the last item hit. They take 1d4 => 1 damage!
L566[13:50:26] <Dev​tron> is it not posible to do if like this?
L567[13:50:29] <Dev​tron> http://tinyurl.com/y4oje5qc
L568[13:50:49] <Forec​aster> do what
L569[13:50:59] <Dev​tron> forget it found the issue :/
L570[13:51:03] <Dev​tron> thus is lua
L571[13:51:06] <Dev​tron> so and and not &&
L572[13:51:20] <Forec​aster> you also don't need the parenthesis
L573[13:52:05] <Dev​tron> i added them as a precaution :/
L574[13:52:15] <Dev​tron> is there an easy way to terminate a running program
L575[13:52:53] <Forec​aster> `ctrl + shift + alt + c`
L576[13:53:23] <Forec​aster> one of those is superfluous, but I can never remember which one it is, so I just press all three
L577[13:53:39] <Dev​tron> thanks
L578[13:56:46] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/706414255934537748/757223287117054042/2020-09-20_14-54-45_OkamiPassion.png dinnertime
L579[13:57:00] <Inari> Amanda: haha
L580[13:57:08] <Inari> Ar
L581[13:57:11] <Inari> Ariri: I mean
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L583[14:07:32] <Dev​tron> whats an easy way to avoid this
L584[14:07:34] <Dev​tron> http://tinyurl.com/y2neq7n9
L585[14:07:47] <Izaya> yield
L586[14:07:49] <Forec​aster> yield :P
L587[14:07:55] <Dev​tron> http://tinyurl.com/y3vtksk5
L588[14:08:18] <Forec​aster> S3 told you that ages ago
L589[14:08:48] <Forec​aster> os.sleep yields, but you're only calling os.sleep conditionally
L590[14:08:56] <Dev​tron> ah
L591[14:09:06] <Forec​aster> also, here's a fun note, you can call os.sleep with 0 seconds
L592[14:09:08] <Dev​tron> with os.sleep supported less than 1
L593[14:09:26] <Dev​tron> would have liked to just call it ever 100ms
L594[14:09:35] <Izaya> you can do it down to 0
L595[14:09:44] <Izaya> but it won't be accurate below 0.05
L596[14:09:57] <Forec​aster> you can call it with non-int values
L597[14:10:14] <Dev​tron> ah ok thanks
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L599[14:22:32] <Inari> Izaya: I thought 0 just means 1 tick so 0.05
L600[14:22:53] <Izaya> that depends on whether the OS decides to yield immediately or not
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L606[14:57:44] <S3> ok
L607[14:58:02] <Forec​aster> ko
L608[14:58:37] <S3> I found yet another turd on my front steps this morning
L609[14:58:49] <S3> it happens once every week or two, I live 300 feet from the road, in the middle of the woods
L610[14:59:04] <S3> I have no idea what is doing it its really WEIRD
L611[14:59:15] <S3> looks like a dog turd but no dogs
L612[14:59:26] <S3> could be a fox but the foxes are too shy to get that close
L613[14:59:35] <S3> cant be a bear, doesnt look like raccoon..
L614[14:59:44] <Forec​aster> maybe it's a fox that really doesn't like you
L615[14:59:45] <S3> Don't know why a coyote would do that
L616[14:59:48] <S3> maybe
L617[14:59:56] <Snai​lDOS> gui os but not mineos?
L618[15:00:01] <S3> he always poops on the same corner of the steps
L619[15:00:09] <S3> SnailDOS make your own
L620[15:00:38] <Snai​lDOS> lmao what
L621[15:00:40] <Snai​lDOS> no way
L622[15:00:44] <S3> Why not?
L623[15:01:00] <S3> honestly you could make a gui subsystem for OC
L624[15:01:07] <S3> and release it as an oppm package for OpenOS
L625[15:01:12] <S3> subshystem for OpenOS *
L626[15:01:19] <S3> more like how *nix works
L627[15:01:40] <Snai​lDOS> oh god stop
L628[15:01:40] <S3> you have a window system and some sort of graphics library
L629[15:01:51] <S3> The more I talk about it the more I want to do it
L630[15:01:52] <Snai​lDOS> your making me determined.
L631[15:02:24] <Snai​lDOS> DO IT
L632[15:02:27] <Snai​lDOS> PLZ GOD DO IT
L633[15:03:07] <S3> wut
L634[15:03:15] <Snai​lDOS> make it
L635[15:03:18] <Snai​lDOS> there is no cool stuff
L636[15:03:21] <Snai​lDOS> i saw it all
L637[15:03:43] <Izaya> have you seen KOS NEO yet
L638[15:04:11] <S3> I've got Trotwood which is not a gui OS but is kind of in need of work before I do something like that
L639[15:04:12] <Snai​lDOS> https://github.com/IgorTimofeev/GUI/blob/master/GUI.lua btw
L640[15:04:29] <S3> Although I always wanted a DOS like system
L641[15:04:31] <S3> :D
L642[15:04:32] <Izaya> ah yes, GUIs which require supercomputers to run
L643[15:04:34] <Izaya> always fun
L644[15:05:00] <Snai​lDOS> lmao agreed
L645[15:05:09] <Izaya> but have you seen KOS NEO yet?
L646[15:05:10] <S3> 4500 lines of code wtf
L647[15:05:13] <Snai​lDOS> no?
L648[15:05:23] <Izaya> then you haven't seen everything cool
L649[15:05:25] <Snai​lDOS> Ik that guy spent time on it doe
L650[15:05:26] <Izaya> stop talking shit
L651[15:05:32] <Snai​lDOS> send \:)
L652[15:05:53] <Snai​lDOS> I have seen m o s t stuff. mostly everything on the forum
L653[15:06:14] <Izaya> all the interesting stuff is in the logs of the IRC channel tbh
L654[15:06:34] <Snai​lDOS> oof kk
L655[15:07:40] <Izaya> I haven't looked at the forums in a long time, but I am cheating, it has an "everything" RSS feed
L656[15:07:42] <Izaya> https://github.com/20kdc/OC-KittenOS
L657[15:08:18] <S3> oh yeah kitten os
L658[15:08:18] <Snai​lDOS> wtf
L659[15:08:23] <Snai​lDOS> that looks awsome af
L660[15:08:32] <S3> you will understand that 20kdec is a smart cookie
L661[15:08:43] <S3> 20kdc*
L662[15:08:47] <Snai​lDOS> No, he's not smart.
L663[15:08:47] <t20kdc> S3: your attempt to not ping me failed
L664[15:08:49] <Snai​lDOS> He's too smart.
L665[15:08:55] <Izaya> KOS NEO can run on a 192k machine reasonably
L666[15:08:56] <S3> OH SHIT
L667[15:09:13] <Snai​lDOS> Why hello there smart boi!
L668[15:09:26] <Izaya> github needs a "I've seen this but I'm too braindead to investigate right now" response to issues
L669[15:09:57] <Snai​lDOS> waut0
L670[15:10:01] <Snai​lDOS> wait
L671[15:10:10] <Snai​lDOS> 1-10 how cool is it compared to mineos
L672[15:10:21] <Izaya> 11, you can use it in-game
L673[15:10:46] <Snai​lDOS> dont have mc on my laptop
L674[15:10:48] <Snai​lDOS> 😦
L675[15:10:54] <Snai​lDOS> does it work on emu?
L676[15:11:12] <t20kdc> it should work on any decent OC virtual machine,
L677[15:11:20] <Izaya> works in ocvm
L678[15:11:25] <t20kdc> and I think I've tested it in metamachine, though not recently
L679[15:11:49] <Snai​lDOS> ill see \:)
L680[15:11:58] <S3> I wonder how I would handle a windowing system library
L681[15:12:17] <S3> I feel like I'd have to write a graphics library to go with it
L682[15:13:14] <t20kdc> @SnailDOS : I assume you've read the installation instructions?
L683[15:13:25] <Izaya> My plan for PsychOS windowing was a really simple "your window is a socket"
L684[15:13:41] <Izaya> each window is its own cute little VT100 compatible terminal
L685[15:14:01] <S3> that's not a bad plan
L686[15:14:19] <Snai​lDOS> no
L687[15:14:20] <S3> Izaya, isn't that a more per window level version of how X works?
L688[15:14:20] <Snai​lDOS> xD
L689[15:14:36] <Izaya> it's most like tmux or screen I think
L690[15:14:45] <S3> yeah
L691[15:14:48] <t20kdc> it's pretty close to how KittenOS NEO terminal windows work, though KittenOS NEO doesn't have a pipe system because overhead
L692[15:15:18] <Snai​lDOS> where tf is inst.lua
L693[15:15:26] <Izaya> I kinda figure that if we only have text I might as well lean into it and leave fancy stuff up to the software
L694[15:15:27] <t20kdc> SnailDOS: releases page
L695[15:15:37] <Snai​lDOS> oh my god
L696[15:15:40] <Izaya> the OS is just plumbing
L697[15:15:46] <Snai​lDOS> im a dumb dumbass
L698[15:17:25] <Snai​lDOS> alright wget crashed ocemu
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L700[15:18:15] <Snai​lDOS> god just send pics plz
L701[15:18:23] <Snai​lDOS> just to annoy me when I am sleeping
L702[15:20:42] <t20kdc> SnailDOS: something to note is that you just need to get the inst.lua file into the right place, the computer does not need an active internet connection
L703[15:20:59] <t20kdc> (also, the inst.lua file must be renamed init.lua and on the root of a disk as per the installation guide)
L704[15:23:00] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/d0cf0ba75d11df2c949612c1d4cd5b3a69100b89825ba6e9a40b4c9b1518e413.jpg
L705[15:31:51] <S3> Quote submitted to bash.org: <Snai​lDOS> im a dumb dumbass
L706[15:32:09] <Izaya> is there any other kind?
L707[15:32:24] <S3> snailDOS: You're about to become popular :)
L708[15:32:29] <ThePi​Guy24> smart dumbasses and dumb smartasses :p
L709[15:32:41] <Izaya> point
L710[15:33:06] <Snai​lDOS> ouch
L711[15:33:18] <Snai​lDOS> maybe being a dumbass wasnt that bad
L712[15:33:48] <S3> I bought a set of 10 floppy disks yesterday morning because mine are worn out, from floppydisk.com
L713[15:33:50] <S3> or whatever
L714[15:33:56] <S3> and it shipped before the end of the day
L715[15:33:59] <S3> :D
L716[15:34:37] <Izaya> oh that's right
L717[15:34:41] <Izaya> allsprk has two movie channels now
L718[15:35:28] <S3> never heard of it
L719[15:35:55] <Izaya> someone from lainchan set up a streaming site on infinite shuffle
L720[15:36:01] <S3> The people who run floppydisk.com are essential
L721[15:36:07] <Izaya> 10 channels, two with movies, 8 with TV shows
L722[15:36:16] <S3> because they supply new floppy disks to the medical industry
L723[15:37:04] <Izaya> gonna smug over here with my cupboard of unopened floppy disks from last millenium
L724[15:37:09] <Amanda> yaaay
L725[15:37:25] <Amanda> somethhing's unhappy about me auto-launching sway from my shell init
L726[15:37:47] <Amanda> Oh well, back to factory
L727[17:40:20] <Ar​iri> %tonk
L728[17:40:20] <MichiBot> Eh! Ar​iri! You beat Squi​dDev's previous record of 3 hours, 22 minutes and 5 seconds (By 1 hour, 56 minutes and 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L729[17:40:21] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 5 hours, 18 minutes and 27 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.00776 (0.00194 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #10 => #9. (Overtook Ocawes​ome101) Need 0.22365 more points to pass Ko​dos!
L730[17:41:30] <S3> @SnailDOS, what is the story of your nick
L731[17:47:35] <ThePi​Guy24> DOS but its slow
L732[17:47:39] <ThePi​Guy24> aka just DOS
L733[17:47:43] <Ar​iri> Once upon a time, there was a virtual snail who would carry packets. This was okay during the dial-up era, but they found themself out of work when faster couriers came along. With little money and a family to feed, he turned the dark side. The snail replicated themself and forcefully substituted the faster couriers. The snails were so slow that requests would timeout. The attack method would eventually be dubbed ‘SnailDOS’
L734[17:48:04] <Ar​iri> S3^ :P
L735[17:49:16] <S3> ROFL
L736[17:49:26] <S3> Ariri that is amazing
L737[17:49:31] <S3> and not what I expected
L738[17:49:50] <Ar​iri> Lol thanks, I didn’t expect it either
L739[17:51:22] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L740[17:51:40] <CompanionCube> oh, damn
L741[17:51:43] <Forec​aster> Nobody expects the snail courier
L742[17:55:01] <Ar​iri> Izaya, clang kola, anyone?
L743[17:56:23] * Izaya explodes
L744[17:57:02] <ThePi​Guy24> i am suprised that the game is even able to exist with that
L745[17:57:56] <Ar​iri> SE but each clang instances causes a proportional drop in file integrity
L746[18:02:45] <Forec​aster> %sip
L747[18:02:45] <MichiBot> You drink a liquid grass potion (New!). A bard starts playing a lute behind Forecaster. They don't stop.
L748[18:02:53] <Forec​aster> D:
L749[18:09:44] <Izaya> TPG24: KSP with more boom
L750[18:11:12] <Forec​aster> is that even possible
L751[18:22:28] <Michiyo> %remindme 30s Hello!
L752[18:22:32] <Michiyo> I see
L753[18:22:33] <Michiyo> lol
L754[18:27:35] <Michiyo> I need to set my dev environment backup
L755[18:41:12] <Forec​aster> psh, nobody needs backups, ever
L756[18:41:27] <Forec​aster> that's just what big backup wants you to think
L757[18:42:42] <Forec​aster> http://tinyurl.com/y358mc6g
L758[18:42:47] <Forec​aster> neat, water in Space Engine
L759[18:44:03] <Inari> %splash Space Engine with aqua potion
L760[18:44:03] <MichiBot> You fling a fiery aqua potion (New!) that splashes onto Space Engine. Everything Space Engine says is now in Wingdings until they see a bird.
L761[18:44:42] <Forec​aster> seriously, why is it so hard to make a thumbnail that doesn't have text where the timestamp is?
L762[18:45:34] <Forec​aster> the answer is not very, in my experience
L763[18:50:35] <Inari> The answer to "why is it hard?" is "not very"?
L764[18:51:54] <Forec​aster> Yes.
L765[18:52:03] <Inari> <thinking emoji>
L766[18:57:05] <Ar​iri> thinking
L767[18:57:11] <Ar​iri> thonking* [Edited]
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L769[19:41:57] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://i.imgur.com/SQr71op.jpg
L770[19:42:35] <Brisingr​Aerowing> For your viewing pleasure.
L771[19:43:29] <ThePi​Guy24> no
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L773[20:10:24] <bad at​ vijya> speaking of cursed
L774[20:10:30] <bad at​ vijya> http://tinyurl.com/yxv2q2lm
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L776[20:24:31] <Forec​aster> https://i.imgur.com/QO0DKsJ.gifv
L777[20:29:59] <B​ob> i can hear it
L778[20:33:33] <Forec​aster> It actually has sound
L779[20:34:28] <Forec​aster> But discord doesn't play gifv with sound
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L781[20:57:52] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: RE windowing on PsychOS, I had a similar idea for Monolith
L782[20:58:25] <Ocawes​ome101> it'd make things like terminal apps really easy
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L784[21:56:51] <Ar​iri> Forecaster: I can hear it anyways :P
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L787[22:24:59] <S3> *yawn*
L788[22:25:04] <S3> I finally woke up
L789[22:25:18] <S3> or, I finally slept
L790[22:30:52] <Ar​iri> mornin'
L791[22:32:22] <Inari> %splash S3 with coffee potion
L792[22:32:22] <MichiBot> You fling a thick dirt potion (New!) that splashes onto S3. The potion contained a computer virus! It just changed S3's background...
L793[22:32:27] <Inari> Hmm
L794[22:32:31] <Inari> Thought coffee was an option
L795[22:32:41] <Inari> Maybe it was moca or so
L796[22:33:40] <Amanda> you can drink coffee, not coffee potion
L797[22:33:44] <Amanda> %splash Inari with coffee
L798[22:33:44] <MichiBot> You splash Inari with coffee. It's scalding hot! Inari takes 1d​6 => 3 fire damage!
L799[22:33:58] <Inari> ah
L800[22:35:44] <Ar​iri> energizing
L801[22:37:41] <S3> LOL that's funnyu
L802[22:39:46] <prisma> so i had an idea
L803[22:39:56] <prisma> what if ASM but Minecraft and it's an interpreted language
L804[22:44:05] <prisma> also:
L805[22:44:17] <prisma> can we teach an AI Java
L806[22:44:21] <prisma> and tell it to make Minecraft mods
L807[22:44:44] <prisma> cursed, I know
L808[22:52:16] <Ariri> Reminds me of an XKCD comic about an AI to program programmers or something
L809[22:57:33] <ThePi​Guy24> well GPT3 can already generate HTML/CSS and python
L810[22:57:43] <Michiyo> god damn it
L811[22:57:49] <Michiyo> my array dropped another fuckin drive.
L812[22:58:05] <prisma> RAID array?
L813[22:59:03] <Michiyo> yeah, it picket it back up but it's marked as "Foreign" now.. which means I have to rebuild the damn thing.. again
L814[22:59:07] <Michiyo> picked*
L815[22:59:47] <prisma> is it the drive dying? or is the array just dumb sometimes
L816[23:02:14] <Michiyo> I think the controller just gets drunk.
L817[23:03:07] <Michiyo> It's a PERC H700 controller, and I'm running standard SATA drives on it, so it's not SUPER happy really
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L819[23:11:14] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://i.imgur.com/A5wGlHW.jpg
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L823[23:36:10] <prisma> Hmm, davfs2 mount points don't seem to show contents until I run `ls` inside them.
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