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<sapphicfettucine> well i've wiped
three times and for some reason there's still kpop on it
:P
 
L4[00:16:31] <Michiyo> Windows build server
deployed for GitLab CI
 
L5[00:16:34] <Michiyo> such a pain..
lol
 
L6[00:17:24] 

<sapphicfettucine> weird, can't get
the remote terminal to work
 
L7[00:18:59] <Amanda> did you pair it?
 
L8[00:25:05] <Amanda> %choose ice cream or
coke
 
L9[00:25:05] <MichiBot> Amanda: I tried
reading my tea leaves this morning. There was something about death
and doom. Anyway, go with "ice cream"
 
L10[00:29:37] 

<sapphicfettucine> pairing it by shift
right clicking it on the server right
 
L11[00:30:19] <Amanda> Yup
 
L12[00:37:59] 

<sapphicfettucine> yep nothing
 
L13[00:38:15] <Amanda> does the server have
a gpu?
 
L14[00:38:20] 

<sapphicfettucine> yep
 
L15[00:38:28] <Amanda> and is the remote
teminal and the server ont he same rail?
 
L16[00:38:42] 

<sapphicfettucine> same rack, set to the
same outs
 
L17[00:45:46] <Argosy> so looking more into
the limitation, OC is definitely too limiting for anything like
love2D without custom component cards
 
L18[00:45:57] <Argosy> But with custom
component cards, hmmmmm
 
L19[00:47:48] 

<sapphicfettucine> a simple game engine is
def possible
 
L20[00:48:06] 

<ThePiGuy24> even simple 3d is
possible
 
L21[00:48:23] 

<ThePiGuy24> and with the gpu buffers, you
could probably even pull of textured 3d
 
L22[00:48:24] 

<sapphicfettucine> yeah haven't the
MineOS folks done that
 
L23[00:48:30] 

<ThePiGuy24> not sure
 
L26[00:49:22] <Argosy> can you actually
render to the screen pixel-by-pixel atm?
 
L27[00:49:34] 

<sapphicfettucine> i don't even know
what you could get with VRAM buffers
 
L28[00:49:40] 

<sapphicfettucine> the screen is just
characters
 
L29[00:50:05] <Amanda> not really, Argosy,
but you can kinda fake it with the braille unicode glyphs
 
L30[00:50:14] 

<sapphicfettucine> what you can do is use
some unicode trickery to get bigger resolutions
 
L31[00:51:27] <Argosy> Also given that OC
is designed to be server-friendly, doesn't it make more sense
to have some sort of system that allows more complex applications
run client-side only?
 
L32[00:53:01] <Amanda> how would those
applications sync between different clients?
 
L33[00:53:18] <Argosy> They wouldn't,
other clients wouldn't see you playing the game
 
L34[00:54:40] 

<sapphicfettucine> i don't doubt that
it's technically possible, but it goes against most of
minecraft's game archictecture
 
L35[00:57:07] <Argosy> How so? As long as
it doesn't affect the state of the world it should be
alright?
 
L36[00:57:23] <Amanda> server does the
thinking. Client does the showing
 
L37[00:57:34] <Amanda> This is pretty
hard-coded into modern minecraft
 
L38[00:59:43] <Argosy> Server still does
the thinking, i.e. world simulation, the server accepts that the
computer is now in "game mode" and the client is showing
the game, difference being that showing the game involves executing
a ton of lua
 
L39[01:02:03] <Argosy> Anyway, this is just
a random thought, my server is an i7 in the same house, so doing it
all server-side, while challanging wouldn't be
impossible
 
L40[01:02:35] <Argosy> I'd definitely
would want to do something better than text rendering trickery
though xD
 
L41[01:03:09] <Amanda> not going to happen,
OC isn't meant to be a fantasy console, it's meant to be
a computer, to compute/automate stuff
 
L42[01:04:03] <Argosy> I just thought
it'd be fun if it could be both
 
L43[01:05:34] <Amanda> @paynel (the main
maintener these days) doesn't even have the time to finish up
the 1.8 release due to his work being busy, let alone massive
changes liek that
 
L44[01:06:47] <Argosy> I'm not saying
any devs should work on that, that'd be a massive waste of
time
 
L45[01:07:29] <Argosy> Just trying to
figure out how I can best waste my own time on this ;)
 
L46[01:12:26] <CompanionCube> inb4 add a
pixel-addressable framebuffer as a custom component
 
L47[01:13:08] <Argosy> why yes
 
L48[01:16:48] <Argosy> I'm not sure
how much freedom custom components have, but I'm thinking a
Computronics-like addon mod that allows you to turn your OC
computer into a fantasy console
 
L49[01:17:10] <Argosy> server-side lua is
only used to bootstrap the computer into a game mode
 
L50[01:18:21] <Vexatos> at that point you
are making a completely separate mod
 
L52[01:18:45] <Vexatos> something like
this
 
L53[01:18:54] <Vexatos> OC computers are
100% server side
 
L54[01:19:07] <Vexatos> the only things
that interact with the client are components like a
GPU/screen
 
L55[01:22:50] 

<ThePiGuy24> and sound
 
L56[01:22:53] 

<Kristopher38> Argosy: why not implement a
game engine suited specifically for OC?
 
L57[01:23:35] <Argosy> Becuase it
doesn't play existing games
 
L58[01:23:44] <Argosy> If it's a
custom engine
 
L59[01:23:45] <Vexatos> Amanda, man I wish
we had more time for the mod
 
L60[01:23:50] <Vexatos> I still want to do
radio towers one day
 
L61[01:24:50] <Argosy> And yeah it'd
basically be a separate mod that's just piggybacking on
OC's screen and the server-side filesystem
 
L62[01:25:17] <Vexatos> that would be very
difficult to do
 
L63[01:25:37] <Vexatos> at that point you
might as well write the thing as a server-side architecture
 
L64[01:25:40] <Vexatos> for OC
 
L65[01:26:19] 

<Kristopher38> wdym server-side
architecture? aren't all archs server-side?
 
L66[01:26:33] <Vexatos> yes, just
that
 
L67[01:26:49] 

<Kristopher38> we're talking about
CPU archs, right?
 
L68[01:26:53] <Vexatos> yes
 
L69[01:27:12] <Argosy> What do you mean by
that though?
 
L71[01:28:57] <Argosy> ah I see now it
makes sense
 
L72[01:30:14] 

<sapphicfettucine> does anyone know if the
source code for the old magik6k dfpwm converter / the new
dfpwm.catgirl.services converter is available?
 
L73[01:30:47] <Vexatos> what do you want it
for?
 
L74[01:31:44] 

<sapphicfettucine> figuring out what
they're doing with the bitrate setting
 
L75[01:32:13] 

<sapphicfettucine> also damn after hearing
"radio towers" i need to re-learn java to contribute
:P
 
L77[01:33:40] 

<bad at
vijya> r a d i o
 
L78[01:33:46] 

<sapphicfettucine> yeah i have both it and
the dfpwm 1a aucmp.c on my pc already
 
L79[01:33:54] 

<bad at
vijya> i wanted to shove that into opensolidstate
 
L80[01:33:56] 

<bad at
vijya> but meh
 
L81[01:34:12] <Vexatos> I have a very good
idea for radio signalling that'd fit very well into OC
 
L82[01:34:16] <Vexatos> basically an entire
design document
 
L83[01:34:20] <Vexatos> but I don't
have the time
 
L84[01:34:25] <Vexatos> so eh
 
L85[01:34:27] 

<sapphicfettucine> oooh
 
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<sapphicfettucine> so not just wireless
audio cable
 
L88[01:35:43] <Vexatos> hell no
 
L89[01:36:02] 

<sapphicfettucine> this is why i love
computronics
 
L90[01:36:02] <Vexatos> this isn't
audio this is long-distance data transmission
 
L91[01:36:06] <Vexatos> with GAME
MECHANICS
 
L92[01:36:11] <Vexatos> and INTERESTING
FEATURES
 
L93[01:36:24] <Vexatos> like how high you
make your antennas
 
L94[01:36:34] <Vexatos> and placing it on a
mountain actually being smart
 
L95[01:36:42] 

<sapphicfettucine> Hell Yes
 
L96[01:37:22] <Vexatos> and how much energy
you want them to consume because strong signals require more energy
to noone's surprise
 
L97[01:37:44] 

<sapphicfettucine> frequencies?
 
L98[01:38:02] 

<sapphicfettucine> would those be a thing?
👀
 
L99[01:38:15] <Vexatos> it will be greatly
simplified from electromagnetic waves IRL of course
 
L100[01:38:23] 

<Kristopher38> @Vexatos poggers
 
L101[01:38:42] 

<sapphicfettucine> yeah i don't
expect it to be bouncing-signals-off-the-atmosphere level :P
 
L102[01:38:57] 

<Kristopher38> so this would be kind of an
alternative to building tons of relays to pass messages over long
distances?
 
L103[01:39:04] <Vexatos> longer antennas
can produce longer-wavelength signals, i.e. less prone to
interference or blocking through mountains, but also lower
bitrate
 
L104[01:39:21] <Vexatos> so you trade
distance and speed
 
L105[01:39:43] 

<sapphicfettucine> does water also block
lower wavelengths?
 
L106[01:40:03] <Vexatos> water counts as
matter, OC already has code for matter blocking signal strength for
wireless network cards
 
L107[01:40:24] <Vexatos> if you ever used
them you'll know they have a shorter distance the more
mountain is between you and the receiver
 
L108[01:41:13] 

<sapphicfettucine> i wanna have to do 3Hz
rradio to communicate with an underwater base :p
 
L109[01:41:50] <Vexatos> at like 1 byte
per second or something
 
L110[01:42:14] 

<sapphicfettucine> that's 60
characters per minute which is more than enough
 
L111[01:42:24] <Vexatos> but yea that is
kinda my basic idea, I have more stuff like being able to configure
how much energy to actually pump into the signal
 
L112[01:42:33] <Vexatos> with different
tiers of antennas supporting different amounts of energy
 
L113[01:42:42] <Vexatos> and energy
determining signal strength
 
L114[01:42:47] 

<Ariri>
EMPs? :P
 
L115[01:42:48] 

<sapphicfettucine> just wanna tell my fish
i love them, don't need the luxury of a high bitrate
 
L116[01:42:56] 

<Ariri>
^
 
L117[01:42:58] <Vexatos> and also
super-long-distance transmission over satellite networks but
that's like a lot of effort
 
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L119[01:43:16] <Vexatos> satellites would
basically be microcontrollers you shoot into space
 
L120[01:43:23] <Vexatos> so you gotta
program that networking yourself
 
L121[01:43:38] <Vexatos> as I said, cool
game mechanics™
 
L122[01:43:42] 

<bad at
vijya> 👀
 
L123[01:43:48] 

<bad at
vijya> i like this
 
L124[01:43:48] 

<Kristopher38> OwO
 
L125[01:44:02] 

<bad at
vijya> i have an idea for mod stuff i wanna make but i actually
have to get motivated first
 
L126[01:44:47] <Vexatos> yes I like this
too
 
L127[01:44:54] <Vexatos> now imagine if I
had the time and motivation to make it
 
L128[01:45:25] 

<bad at
vijya> i personally wanna make an industry mod because idfk i
like automation and shit
 
L129[01:45:35] <Vexatos> OC has no good
way of long distance communication without linked cards which
suck
 
L130[01:45:51] <Vexatos> this idea is 4
years old at this point I think
 
L131[01:45:54] <Vexatos> I just need to do
it
 
L132[01:46:12] 

<sapphicfettucine> or a lot of
relays
 
L133[01:46:43] 

<bad at
vijya> f i b e r
 
L134[01:47:10] 

<sapphicfettucine> more chunks loaded =
more fun
 
L135[01:47:15] 

<sapphicfettucine> that's how it
goes.
 
L136[01:47:28] 

<bad at
vijya> mao
 
L137[01:47:31] 

<bad at
vijya> *lmao
 
L138[01:47:56] 

<sapphicfettucine> sighs in logistics
mods
 
L139[01:48:15] 

<Kristopher38> I recently found out that
sometimes even when you have a lack of motivation, if you just sit
and start doing it the motivation suddenly ocmes
 
L140[01:48:18] 

<Kristopher38> I recently found out that
sometimes even when you have a lack of motivation, if you just sit
and start doing it the motivation suddenly comes [Edited]
 
L141[01:48:29] <Vexatos> oh and I also
have like a sytem in mind involving interference of signals and
stuff
 
L142[01:48:48] 

<Kristopher38> it's like that meme
"i started doing homework and it isn't so bad"
 
L143[01:49:00] 

<bad at
vijya> industry mod time
 
L144[01:49:06] <Vexatos> and, like, if you
send a signal on a certain frequency you better believe that every
sufficiently large antenna in range will receive it, whether you
want it or not
 
L145[01:49:07] 

<bad at
vijya> models come later
 
L146[01:49:19] 

<bad at
vijya> everything will be full blocks or slabs
 
L147[01:49:29] 

<sapphicfettucine> > I recently found
out that sometimes even when you have a lack of motivation, if you
just sit and start doing it the motivation suddenly comes
 
L148[01:49:29] 

<sapphicfettucine> that's called
"ritalin" for me
 
L149[01:49:34] <Vexatos> @Kristopher38
I've done that every day for two months while writing my
master's thesis
 
L150[01:49:44] <Vexatos> it working
doesn't make it less painful
 
L151[01:49:56] 

<Kristopher38> yes
 
L152[01:50:03] <Vexatos> at least I am
done now
 
L153[01:50:04] <Vexatos> or almost
 
L154[01:50:08] 

<sapphicfettucine> OOH like maskelyne hack
style interference, wonderful
 
L155[01:50:23] 

<Kristopher38> what's your
master's thesis topic?
 
L156[01:50:26] <Vexatos> uh
 
L157[01:50:34] <Vexatos> the title is very
long
 
L158[01:50:37] 

<Kristopher38> not that I would understand
anyway but i'm curious
 
L159[01:50:37] <Vexatos> TL;DR quantum
chemistry
 
L160[01:50:46] 

<Kristopher38> c'mon you gotta give
me more
 
L161[01:51:01] <Vexatos> molecules does
funky stuff when in light and I tried to find out why
 
L162[01:51:37] <Vexatos> I found out what
exactly it was doing and I made calculations reproducing the
experiments but I didn't find out why
 
L163[01:51:41] <Vexatos> that was my
thesis
 
L164[01:52:10] 

<sapphicfettucine> > but I didn't
find out why
 
L165[01:52:11] 

<sapphicfettucine> ah, Academic Research,
never change
 
L166[01:52:30] <Vexatos> anyways
@sapphicfettucine one idea was that you could jam a radio frequency
by just blasting it with signals and then a receiver would receive
chunks from multiple sources out of order and stuff perhaps
 
L167[01:52:35] 

<bad at
vijya> "why is my xmpp server down? oh wait, i moved it to
the other house"
 
L168[01:52:52] <Vexatos> so you'd
have to do a simplified sort of de-noising on the receiver
 
L169[01:53:01] 

<Kristopher38> i mean, maybe someone will
pick up where he left off and develop a theory behind "the
why"
 
L170[01:53:06] <Vexatos> I obviously
cannot really produce analogue signals on a 20 ticks-per-second
server
 
L171[01:53:11] <Vexatos> so it'll
still be packeted in some way
 
L172[01:53:22] 

<Kristopher38> really cool
nontheless
 
L173[01:53:24] 

<bad at
vijya> i know what i must do
 
L174[01:53:34] <Vexatos> @Kristopher38 I
literally tried like 20 different methods and they all showed no
difference between the two differently behaving things
 
L175[01:53:45] <Vexatos> at the end both
me and my prof and everyone we asked were entirely out of
ideas
 
L176[01:53:47] <Vexatos> it was fun
 
L177[01:54:06] 

<Kristopher38> :D
 
L178[01:54:20] <Vexatos> but I got to
learn like 20 programs that way I guess
 
L179[01:54:30] <Vexatos> anyone wanna know
about AIM field and basin theory?
 
L180[01:54:44] <Vexatos> .-.
 
L181[01:54:51] 

<Kristopher38> raises hand
 
L182[01:54:52] <Vexatos> my defense is in
two weeks, wish me luck
 
L183[01:55:11] 

<Kristopher38> discord refuses to send my
messages
 
L184[01:55:19] 

<sapphicfettucine> yep it's having a
moment
 
L185[01:55:25] <Corded> *
<sapphicfettucine> wishing luck
 
L186[01:55:33] 

<sapphicfettucine> wait no this is not the
real thing give me a minute
 
L188[01:55:45] 

<Kristopher38> anyway, good luck
 
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L190[01:56:25] *
alisw wishes you good luck 
L191[01:56:38] 

<Kristopher38> how does it work, why are
research papers behind a paywall most of the time
 
L192[01:56:40] <alisw> we all know it
works better when you use /me.
 
L193[01:57:00] <Vexatos> they are only
behind a paywall if you want it to be :)
 
L194[01:57:11] 

<bad at
vijya> hahahaha
 
L195[01:57:23] <Vexatos> because there are
only three big publishers for research papers in the world
 
L196[01:57:25] 

<bad at
vijya> i should probably plug my laptop in
 
L197[01:57:30] <Vexatos> and they
oligopolize it
 
L198[01:57:50] <Vexatos> open access
research has gotten a lot bigger lately
 
L199[01:57:55] <alisw> i won't say
more than *wink wink nudge nudge*
 
L200[01:58:21] <Vexatos> since a year ago
or so, you can only receive EU funding if all your papers written
during the project are open access
 
L201[01:58:27] <alisw> just yknow
there's always Somewhere you could find it. i do not know
where
 
L202[01:58:30] <Vexatos> as an
example
 
L203[01:58:30] <Vexatos> that's
pretty nice
 
L204[01:58:34] <alisw> ooh that's a
really good law
 
L205[01:59:12] <Izaya> Ariri:
 
L207[01:59:58] 

<Kristopher38> I see
 
L208[02:00:03] <Izaya> Vexatos: I hear
that since covid open-er research has gotten bigger
 
L209[02:00:37] 

<Kristopher38> what made you pursue
quantum chemistry?
 
L211[02:00:49] <Ariri> Izaya, haha (also
whos studio is that, I cant tell)
 
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L213[02:01:08] 

<hilariousppp> looks like jayz2cents to
me
 
L214[02:01:22] <Izaya> Ariri: I think
it's LTT but I haven't seen any of their stuff in
years
 
L215[02:01:35] <Vexatos> @Kristopher38
well a) chemistry is cool b) quantum chemistry is cool
 
L216[02:01:52] <Ariri> I wanted to say
that too, but they dont have the shelf there iirc, and ive seen a
decent range of their vids
 
L217[02:02:02] 

<sapphicfettucine> the quantum-er it is,
the sciencier it gets!
 
L218[02:02:12] 

<Kristopher38> honestly i don't know
what other answer i was expecting
 
L219[02:02:34] <Vexatos> the alternative
for me would have been analytical chemistry, which I am very good
at, quantum chemistry I am not as good at but I get to learn more
so it's more interesting, on the other hand I don't get
to do cool arctic and antarctic expeditions which is something the
place I wanted to go to does
 
L220[02:02:37] 

<Kristopher38> they obviously must've
been cool if you pursue those
 
L221[02:03:09] <Vexatos> so now I
essentially have an office job
 
L222[02:04:20] <Vexatos> quantum chemistry
is something few people do and few people need, so you gotta search
all around the world to find a place, but my professor offered me
my PhD position within 2 weeks of working with him so that kinda
skewed my decision towards that
 
L223[02:04:59] <Vexatos> chemistry in
general I studied because it was my favourite subject in school
along with computer science but computer science was boring
 
L224[02:05:46] 

<sapphicfettucine> tangentially related to
radio talk: my guitar amp is picking up a christian radio station
somehow
 
L225[02:05:49] <Vexatos> when I decided on
what to study I talked to a bunch of computer scientists and they
all talked about how boring and shitty CS at unis is and how you
learn nothing there and how you waste your time for three years so
I was like hm maybe I should not
 
L226[02:06:20] <Vexatos> @sapphicfettucine
do they play pop music about how cool jesus is or how does that
work
 
L227[02:06:46] 

<sapphicfettucine> mostly a guy reading
the gospels in a bit of a depressed voice so far
 
L228[02:06:54] 

<bad at
vijya> l m a o
 
L229[02:07:14] 

<Ariri>
peak comedy
 
L230[02:07:19] <Vexatos> not sure what I
was expecting
 
L231[02:07:29] 

<sapphicfettucine> gonna record it, apply
some audio effects and call it a dark ambiance album
 
L232[02:07:56] 

<Ariri>
interimo adapare
 
L234[02:10:38] <Vexatos> @Kristopher38
TL;DR qchem is basically computer science but not boring, it's
programming and software engineering but also directly applied by
yourself to solve real-world (albeit usually quite fundamental)
problems
 
L235[02:11:54] <Vexatos> I get to write
cool programs to solve complicated equations and also apply those
to scientific questions and also earn money it's pretty
nice.
 
L236[02:12:27] <Vexatos> The job market
for CS in Germany is pretty bad in general so not being anywhere
close to it isn't too bad either. This basically combined me
liking chemistry with me liking programming :P
 
L237[02:15:28] <Vexatos> anyways, good
night
 
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L239[02:16:19] 

<Ariri>
Merryweather makes good comics
 
L240[02:17:04] <Amanda> %choose continue
assembly or veg out and irradiate
 
L241[02:17:04] <MichiBot> Amanda: I
received a telegram from a long lost relative that only read
"continue assembly". Weird.
 
L242[02:17:35] <Amanda> The Plan Must Go
Forward - Michiyo's long-lost sister
 
L243[02:18:59] <Michiyo> o_O
 
L244[02:19:28] 

<sapphicfettucine> michibot: the broken
god
 
L245[02:20:49] 

<sapphicfettucine> actually let's be
honest with the amount of anime that's posted here, #oc is
definitely Gamers Against Weed
 
L246[02:22:07] 

<bad at
vijya> smonm
 
L247[02:22:11] 

<bad at
vijya> *smonk
 
L248[02:22:44] 

<Ariri> has
no idea what that is, but will continue to share anime stuff
anyways
 
L249[02:23:08] 

<sapphicfettucine> SCP wiki thing :P
 
L250[02:23:32] 

<Ariri> Oh,
I follow some scp stuff but unfamiliar with that
 
L251[02:23:35] 

<Kristopher38> > when I decided on what
to study I talked to a bunch of computer scientists and they all
talked about how boring and shitty CS at unis is and how you learn
nothing there and how you waste your time for three years so I was
like hm maybe I should not
 
L252[02:23:35] 

<Kristopher38> Vexatos: oof, i'm
starting CS in about 4 weeks
 
L254[02:24:14] <Amanda> He's gone,
@Kristopher38 -- eaten by The Swarm
 
L255[02:24:33] 

<Ariri>
ah
 
L257[02:24:45] 

<Kristopher38> though I've got a
different mindset so I hope it won't be that bad
 
L258[02:25:05] 

<Kristopher38> there are really cool
subjects that I can choose to take so I'm looking forward to
that
 
L259[02:25:07] <Izaya> bonk
 
L260[02:25:19] 

<Ariri>
Elfi, gotta admit though, moth girls are qts
 
L261[02:25:28] <Elfi> I mean we are!
 
L262[02:25:30] <Elfi> But still
 
L263[02:25:32] <Elfi> Das lewd!
 
L264[02:25:54] 

<Ariri>
uwu~
 
L265[02:26:02] <Elfi> u////u
 
L266[02:26:31] 

<Ariri> you
should see some of the other stuff merryweather makes, it’s way
more lewd
 
L267[02:26:40] 

<Ariri>
like, handholding levels
 
L268[02:27:04] <Amanda> nyahahahaha
 
L269[02:27:08] <Amanda> I have an arc
reactor!
 
L270[02:27:24] 

<bad at
vijya> i can't find my headphones
 
L271[02:27:24] 

<bad at
vijya> re
 
L272[02:27:24] 

<Ariri>
Amanda, achievement get: Iron Car
 
L273[02:27:28] 

<Ariri>
Cat*
 
L274[02:27:38] 

<Ariri>
darn autocorrect
 
L275[02:27:50] <Amanda> just need...
 
L276[02:27:56] <Amanda> %calc 960 *
6
 
L277[02:27:56] <MichiBot> 960 * 6 =>
5760
 
L278[02:28:11] <Amanda> 6k more thruster
components and I'll have this thing completely printed
 
L279[02:29:02] 

<Ariri>
wowzers
 
L282[02:33:00] <Izaya> Aight that's
enough from me I should get up
 
L283[02:33:03] 

<Ariri> I
really want to dislike that gif but it’s probably true^
 
L284[02:33:25] <Izaya> It's well
documented :)
 
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L286[02:33:36] <Amanda> well, since all I
can really do is wait for the platinum I sic'd PAM on to get
mined, guess I'll veg out now
 
L287[02:34:16] 

<Ariri>
sighs in strict TOS
 
L288[02:35:56] 

<sapphicfettucine> discord admining?
emotional responsability? Ahahahahaha
 
L289[02:37:04] 

<sapphicfettucine> hmm
 
L290[02:38:09] 

<sapphicfettucine> is there any advantage
of using `require("internet").open()` over
`component.internet.connect()`?
 
L291[02:38:30] <Izaya> the internet API is
less cursed trust me
 
L292[02:38:55] 

<sapphicfettucine> but like, 0.000001 ms
of extra call time D:
 
L293[02:39:05] <Izaya> blatant breaking of
the rules and TOS by the people that are supposed to be enforcing
them? surely not!
 
L294[02:39:24] <Izaya> you can do very
little in Lua-land that takes longer than component calls
 
L295[02:39:33] 

<sapphicfettucine> we all know volunteer
community TOS enforcers never do any wrong.
 
L296[02:42:00] 

<Kristopher38> there's a lot you
could do which would take longer than component calls, just do some
long-ass calculations
 
L297[02:42:32] 

<sapphicfettucine> i was mostly worried
about any overhead from the internet library
 
L298[02:42:39] <Izaya> >
volunteeer
 
L299[02:42:41] <Izaya> haha, if only
 
L300[02:42:57] <Izaya> but no, the
overhead for data handling like that is minimal
 
L301[02:43:02] 

<Kristopher38> as roberto ierusalimschy
famously said
 
L302[02:43:11] 

<Kristopher38> the rules of optimization
are:
 
L303[02:43:14] 

<Kristopher38> 1. don't do it
 
L304[02:43:17] <Izaya> memory wise
it's a tad heavier, but each component call takes a minimum of
one tick
 
L305[02:43:22] 

<Kristopher38> 2. don't do it yet
(for experts only)
 
L306[02:43:36] 

<Kristopher38> my message being:
you're optimizing the wrong thing
 
L307[02:43:42] <CompanionCube> TOS
shenanigans?
 
L308[02:43:45] 

<Kristopher38> although I'm often
guilty of it myself
 
L309[02:44:28] <Izaya> CompanionCube: you
didn't see the shitstorm about paid employees grooming
children a year or so ago?
 
L310[02:44:34] 

<Kristopher38> that might be because
i'm autistic but w/e
 
L311[02:44:52] <CompanionCube> Izaya: oh,
i thought it was a new thing
 
L312[02:45:10] 

<sapphicfettucine> oh, paid ones too,
incredible work discord
 
L313[02:45:13] <Izaya> I haven't
heard of anything new about it but I haven't been paying
attention, I doubt much has changed.
 
L314[02:45:15] 

<sapphicfettucine> oh same
kristopher!
 
L315[02:45:19] 

<sapphicfettucine> ND gang gang
 
L316[02:46:08] <Izaya> when your whole
product is a meme-infested worse slack clone, such things are to be
expected, I suppose
 
L317[02:46:41] 

<Kristopher38> (not diagnosed though, but
I expect it)
 
L318[02:46:48] 

<sapphicfettucine> those "return to
tradition" alt right images but with an IRC client
 
L319[02:46:50] <CompanionCube> scp's
church of maxwellism has cool shit like wifi implants
 
L320[02:48:45] <Izaya> I mean, IRC is fine
but XMPP's where it's at
 
L322[02:50:57] <Izaya> cute cat
 
L323[02:51:11] <Izaya> unrealistically
small number of channels though
 
L324[02:51:17] 

<sapphicfettucine> true
 
L326[02:51:46] <Izaya> been cutting down
so they're easier to deal with in conversations
 
L327[02:52:14] <CompanionCube> so what
have you ditched?
 
L329[02:53:17] <Izaya> assorted channels
on esper, some projects on freenode I don't care about, most
of the superfluous lainchan channels
 
L330[02:53:23] 

<sapphicfettucine> here's proper
kitty
 
L331[02:53:49] <Izaya> tfw no kitty
 
L333[02:58:13] <Amanda> @sapphicfettucime
tfw human bothers nap time for pictures
 
L334[03:00:17] <Amanda> %remindme 12h
blankets could do with a clean
 
L335[03:00:17] <MichiBot> I'll remind
you about "blankets could do with a clean" at 09/05/2020
02:00:17 PM
 
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L337[03:00:30] <Izaya> ugh I should do
some washing today
 
L338[03:01:38] <Amanda> I meant to wash
them today, but got so caught up in welding DotG that I
forgot
 
L339[03:02:42] <Amanda> I wish I could
figure out where the fuck the three missing armor blocks are,
it'll bother me otherwise
 
L340[03:03:21] <Amanda> %remindme 10h go
to creative and fix the conveyer issue in the blueprint
 
L341[03:03:21] <MichiBot> I'll remind
you about "go to creative and fix the conveyer issue in the
blueprint" at 09/05/2020 12:03:21 PM
 
L342[03:03:47] <Amanda> %remimdme 10h the
lop-sided phaser too
 
L343[03:04:01] <Amanda> %remindme 10h the
lop-sided phaser too
 
L344[03:04:01] <MichiBot> I'll remind
you about "the lop-sided phaser too" at 09/05/2020
12:04:01 PM
 
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L346[03:25:47] 

<Ariri>
Izaya: warship Voyager looks pretty wicked cool tbh
 
L347[03:25:56] <Izaya> hm?
 
L348[03:26:08] 

<Ariri> S4:
E23
 
L349[03:26:23] 

<Ariri>
It’s got like bits sticking out, the emh is an android, v
cool
 
L352[03:27:30] <Izaya> is this a mirror
universe episode?
 
L353[03:28:12] 

<Ariri> I
thought so, but it seems more of a misinterpretation of history in
a world 700 years later
 
L354[03:28:21] 

<Ariri>
“Voyager was known for interfering”
 
L355[03:28:38] *
Izaya laughs in prime directive 
L356[03:29:02] 

<Ariri> Fun
fact, the Prime Directive is rescinded during Omega Protocol
 
L357[03:29:11] 

<Ariri>
Also in this episode, they committed genocide soooo
 
L358[03:49:31] <Amanda> Oh hey
 
L359[03:49:37] <Amanda> I think I remember
that episode
 
L360[03:51:17] <Amanda> It's framing
device was like a museum, and some super-old clone of the emh was
there stuck on a macguffin from the future-federation?
 
L361[03:51:53] <Amanda> It ends with the
emh setting off to try and get back to federation space as well,
iirc?
 
L362[03:54:43] <Amanda> (sorry if
that's spoilers, and you've not reached the end
yet)
 
L363[03:55:47] <Amanda> I like the one
episodes intro "Time... The final frontier..."
 
L364[03:56:07] <Amanda> (or was that in
Enterprise)
 
L365[03:57:01] *
Amanda climbs out of this pile of tireds, snuggles up around Elfi
and passes out 
L366[03:57:04] <Amanda> Night nerds
 
L367[03:57:47] *
Elfi squeaks, rubs her eyes, lays her blanket over Amanda's
side for extra warms and curls back up, zzz 
L368[03:59:02] *
Amanda drapes her floofy tail over Elfi to help some
now 
L369[03:59:15] <Amanda> Some more*
 
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L372[04:04:58] <pacak> Is there a way to
access commands on the server from inside openos?
 
L373[04:05:08] <Ocawesome101> o/
 
L374[04:05:12] <Ocawesome101> pacak:
??
 
L375[04:05:20] <pacak> o/
 
L376[04:05:23] <Ocawesome101> as in
execute things like /give ?
 
L377[04:05:34] <pacak> No, underlying
OS.
 
L378[04:05:41] <Ocawesome101> oh
 
L379[04:05:43] <alisw> oh god no
 
L380[04:05:44] <Ocawesome101> there is
not
 
L381[04:05:45] <pacak> So server runs on
linux, i want to run a linux command.
 
L382[04:05:50] <Ocawesome101> why do you
need to?
 
L383[04:05:57] <alisw> that'd be
about the worst security risk you could get
 
L384[04:06:05] <Ocawesome101> if that
existed that would be a MASSIVE security risk
 
L385[04:06:08] <pacak> I can imagine that
:)
 
L386[04:06:17] <alisw> but yeah what do
you need to do
 
L387[04:06:48] <pacak> There's a CTF
challenge going on and one of the tasks is to get a flag from a
server that runs minecraft with the only mod being
opencomputers....
 
L388[04:07:09] <Ocawesome101>
...what
 
L389[04:07:21] <Ocawesome101>
what 
L390[04:07:46] <CompanionCube> well, if
you can get the server admin to enable bytecode, you can probably
exploit that into a shell...
 
L392[04:08:04] <pacak> Something like
this
 
L393[04:08:21] <pacak> Maybe they did, I
dunno.
 
L394[04:08:38] <CompanionCube> link to the
actual CTF?
 
L395[04:09:01] <alisw> yeah, bytecode
would be your best bet
 
L397[04:09:48] <CompanionCube> tfw need
javascript to display static text
 
L398[04:09:59] <pacak> 🤷♂️
 
L399[04:10:47] <pacak> There's some
interactivity in some tasks, like enabling server
processes...
 
L400[04:11:03] <CompanionCube> ah
 
L401[04:11:57] <alisw> i'd test the
bytecode method
 
L402[04:11:58] <Ocawesome101> does the
"ALLES!" up in the top left flicker for everyone or is
that just me?
 
L403[04:12:11] <CompanionCube> given that
it's a CTF, one wonders if there's a semi-recent sandbox
vuln
 
L404[04:12:40] <alisw> whats the standard
OC sandbox
 
L405[04:12:55] <Ocawesome101> someone did
come in here a week or so ago to tell payo about a massive security
hole
 
L406[04:13:07] <Ocawesome101> alisw: just
something pulled off (very well i might add!) in Lua
 
L407[04:13:24] <alisw> foo
 
L408[04:13:28] <alisw> oo*
 
L409[04:13:39] <pacak> No flickering
 
L410[04:13:40] <alisw> hmm
 
L411[04:13:44] <CompanionCube> machine.lua
on top of the eris persistence library, iirc
 
L412[04:13:45] <alisw> GC hooks might work
too
 
L413[04:14:03] <Ocawesome101> hmm,
probably just an artefact of Firefox + ARM then
 
L414[04:14:12] <alisw> oh you're on
ARM?
 
L415[04:14:43] <Ocawesome101> yep
 
L416[04:14:45] <pacak> o_O
 
L417[04:14:46] <Ocawesome101> pinebook
pro
 
L419[04:14:53] <CompanionCube> that was
it
 
L420[04:14:54] <alisw> so yeah pacak,
i'd try loading some misc bytecode to see if that's
available, else it's gonna take some longer
investigation
 
L421[04:14:56] <alisw> oooooo
 
L422[04:14:57] <CompanionCube> 20th august
2020
 
L423[04:15:32] <Ocawesome101> oh dear the
flickering is worse now
 
L424[04:16:29] 

<sapphicfettucine> the vuln was inside the
website all along :P
 
L425[04:18:00] <CompanionCube> pacak: do
you know when the answer will be revealed?
 
L426[04:18:35] <pacak> In 2-3 days I
suspect
 
L428[04:21:36] <pacak> Usually answers are
not revealed directly but come in form of writeups by teams who
managed to solve the tasks.
 
L429[04:21:58] <CompanionCube> and no
one's solved it yet...
 
L430[04:22:42] <pacak> Yep. And even if
there are solutions - this doesn't mean a person responsible
will make a writeup. Some tasks from the last CTF are still a
mystery to me.
 
L431[04:23:40] <CompanionCube> i imagine
you've no idea if it's likely to be solved by
others
 
L432[04:23:59] *
Ocawesome101 wants vaguely to try now 
L433[04:25:16] <pacak> Go for it,
it's fun.
 
L434[04:25:51] 

<sapphicfettucine> so it's probably
either allowBytecode, allowGC, or a non-publicly-known vuln in the
sandbox
 
L435[04:27:50] <pacak> In the archive
there's a docker file that configures the server.
 
L436[04:28:04] <pacak> I don't see
any custom configs for OC...
 
L437[04:28:25] <Ocawesome101>
`.minecraft/config/opencomputers/settings.conf`
 
L438[04:29:26] <pacak> Yea, that where it
would go.
 
L439[04:30:47] 

<sapphicfettucine> it could also be
sponge, ig
 
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L441[04:33:41] 

<sapphicfettucine> f me
 
L442[04:35:08] 

<sapphicfettucine> there does seem to be a
custom sponge cfg file in that but idk if it means anything im
falling asleep at the keyboard
 
L443[04:35:29] <Ocawesome101> then go to
bed @sapphicfettucine
 
L444[04:35:39] 

<sapphicfettucine> hmpf
 
L445[04:36:03] <pacak> There is a custom
config and one more plugin that calls /getflag. Maybe OC part is
just a rabbit hole...
 
L446[04:41:49] <CompanionCube> hah,
there's opencomputers state files, wonder what's in those
if anythinf
 
L447[04:42:11] <Ocawesome101> hm
 
L448[04:45:16] <pacak> Nothing in state
files as far as I can see
 
L449[05:03:46] <CompanionCube> pacak: so
did you try the plugin that calls getflag?
 
L450[05:04:18] <pacak> Trying to
understand what it is doing.
 
L451[05:04:59] <CompanionCube> i think it
registers a command
 
L452[05:05:06] <CompanionCube> also
'first blood' is a thinf
 
L453[05:05:44] <Ocawesome101> hah
 
L454[05:06:00] <Ocawesome101> i just saw a
mildly amusing spam email from like a month ago
 
L455[05:10:55] <pacak> Hmm... What is
'first blood' exactly?
 
L457[05:11:51] <Ocawesome101> decided to
respond to it with a fake picture and fake info and see what
happens because i'm a crazy reckless person
 
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L459[05:15:17] <CompanionCube> pacak:
that's the question eh? Is it the first to win?
 
L460[05:16:00] <pacak> As far as I can see
they spawn a unique instance for each player
 
L461[05:17:37] <pacak> In that instance
there's a computer without floppy/os, some sheep with carpeted
capacitors, one spawner room and a world border maybe 1-2 chunks
away
 
L462[05:23:12] <CompanionCube> without
floppy?
 
L463[05:25:07] <pacak> No floppy but
it's easy to craft.
 
L464[05:32:30] 

<Kodos>
%tonk
 
L465[05:32:31] <MichiBot> Goshhawk!
Kodos! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 2 hours, 4
minutes and 29 seconds (By 6 hours, 36 minutes and 24 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
 
L466[05:32:32] <MichiBot> Kodos's new
record is 8 hours, 40 minutes and 53 seconds! Kodos also gained
0.01983 (0.00661 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position
#8. Need 0.11811 more points to pass simon816!
 
L467[06:27:05] <dequbed> @Kristopher38 CS
depends on where you study and what your goal is to learn. In most
Unis it's very theorectical with a heavy emphasis on
Algorithms and such. If that sounds boring to you you should look
at one of the degrees of engineering coupled with CS or straight up
CE.
 
L468[06:34:43] <Izaya> Ariri: know what I
really liked about DS9? I don't think I heard the words
"prime directive" once.
 
L469[06:37:15] <dequbed> prime directive,
schmime directive. Just shoot all the aliens already.
 
L470[06:37:43] <Izaya> "Commander, I
don't think the prime directive applies to the
Cardassians."
 
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L473[06:42:15] <dequbed> Izaya: We should
play Stellaris again some time. I wanna beat up the ~xeno scum~
friend aliens and eat all their Sandviches
 
L474[06:42:34] <Izaya> I want to sell them
sandviches at absurd prices
 
L475[06:44:02] <dequbed> I mean if
you're going there I want to take the sanviches from their
rules and redistribute it amongst my workers and seize the means
for their production. But details.
 
L476[06:45:02] <Izaya> Sounds like a solid
scheme.
 
L477[06:45:08] <CompanionCube> won't
happen, but imagine 3-way stellaris
 
L478[06:45:55] <dequbed> I mean I want to
play a no-AI-empire game of stellaris with friends once.
 
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L480[06:52:40] <Izaya> oh in other news I
convinced MangoHUD to work on Minecraft
 
L482[06:55:41] <dequbed> In other news
what modpack is that now Izaya?
 
L483[06:56:04] <Izaya> I stole most of v8
to make a pack to play with my nephew
 
L484[06:56:13] <Izaya> figured I'd
use it to test how stuff works together at the same time
 
L485[06:56:40] <dequbed> Neat. How's
it holding up?
 
L486[06:57:58] <Izaya> well, I added
millenaire so server performance has been shite, and there's
some server crashes I haven't been able to track down
 
L487[06:58:33] <dequbed> Removed
any?
 
L488[07:00:34] <Izaya> I started with the
core and added stuff over time
 
L489[07:00:40] <Izaya> There's a few
little things missing
 
L490[07:00:47] <Izaya> Also, there's
a Dynamic Trees addon for Forestry now :D
 
L491[07:03:14] 

<Kodos> I
don’t know how many of you know what a dollar general is but I have
a running tab on the one across the street from my house for
gallons of milos tea. They’ve just been letting me have one every
day or so and letting me pay them back when it’s safe for me to
have human contact again
 
L492[07:03:30] <dequbed> Izaya: Immersive
Railroading? That's what has caused a bunch of problems for me
so far
 
L493[07:03:57] <Izaya> Didn't add it
yet, didn't want to overwhelm em
 
L494[07:04:40] <dequbed> Izaya: If you
don't mind I'd like to try that pack at some point
 
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L501[08:41:45] *
CompanionCube checked: someone's solved the CTF. 
L502[08:42:35] <Izaya> dequbed: I'll
hit you up with a copy ... eventually
 
L503[08:42:40] <Izaya> some time for
sure
 
L504[08:43:19] <CompanionCube> i wonder if
pacak == divergentdave
 
L505[08:43:55] <Izaya> I have an important
question:
 
L506[08:44:00] <Izaya> are "web
apps":
 
L507[08:44:08] <Izaya> - software
masquerading as documents
 
L508[08:44:13] <Izaya> - documents
masquerading as software
 
L509[08:44:44] <CompanionCube> - a little
from column a, a little from column b
 
L510[08:45:10] <CompanionCube> the exact
mix is rather app-dependent
 
L511[08:45:46] <dequbed> Izaya: I have a
counter-question: Is a Qt application using XML for markup a) or
b)?
 
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L513[08:46:47] <CompanionCube> that's
a thing?
 
L514[08:46:56] <dequbed> That's the
normal way to use Qt CompanionCube.
 
L515[08:47:32] <CompanionCube> is it? I
thought qt was more either c++ or qml
 
L516[08:48:52] <dequbed> XML is how you
define UI makeup if you don't write it by hand in C++, the
output of qtcreator and target for a bunch of tools in the Qt
space.
 
L517[08:49:52] <Izaya> dequbed:
that's just software my dude
 
L518[08:50:32] <dequbed> Izaya: Then so is
a website using Javascript.
 
L519[08:50:32] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
well, if it uses XML as more than UI glue....
 
L520[08:51:25] <Izaya> the way I see it,
if the software is contained in a document, it's a
document
 
L521[08:51:41] <Izaya> if the document -
or in this case, XML - is part of a piece of software, that's
just data used by the program
 
L522[08:51:48] <CompanionCube> Izaya: /me
looks at Sun NeWS
 
L523[08:52:10] <Izaya> [PostScript wants
to know your location]
 
L524[08:52:18] <CompanionCube>
exactly
 
L525[08:52:29] <dequbed> Izaya: So a) PHP
is a document b) a 3D world generated completely on the fly using
JavaScript is a document. Nice.
 
L526[08:52:48] <Izaya> not that it was an
entirely serious question to start with, but still
 
L527[08:52:55] <CompanionCube> is it both
simultaneously if you compute your document on a printer? :3
 
L528[08:52:58] <Izaya> dequbed: yes I am
okay with both of these implications
 
L529[08:53:45] <dequbed> Izaya: The
question then becomes what's a "document".
 
L530[08:54:27] <CompanionCube> imo JS /
CSS / HTML (or
 
L531[08:54:41] <CompanionCube> nvm
 
L532[08:55:46] <dequbed> CompanionCube: So
macros in a Word file are a program?
 
L533[08:57:55] <CompanionCube> dequbed: i
assume not VBA, right?
 
L534[08:58:35] <dequbed> That was more
about you trying to give an exhaustive list.
 
L535[08:59:36] <dequbed> Please don't
take me as salty, I'm well aware that in your two cases this
argument is 99% shitposting. But other people make just this
argument from a perceived position of superiority trying to say
that Web development is not "real" development and thus
Web-developers are by design worse than "real"
developers.
 
L536[09:00:37] <dequbed> And bringing this
whole point of what's a document vs what's a program to
it's ridicolous end is the same as doing that for people
trying to define what's a woman re what's a man. The
borders are fuzzy and its a completely irrelevant distinction in
the first place.
 
L537[09:05:19] <CompanionCube> dequbed:
everyone knows the only real programmees write fortran :)
 
L538[09:05:49] <dequbed> Real Programmers
hack binary machine code into a switch panel!
 
L539[09:05:57] <dequbed> WITHOUT
reference!
 
L540[09:07:25] <CompanionCube> i mean
judging 'real' development on your personal opinion of a
platform is bad metric in any case, so :)
 
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L542[09:25:34] 

<Forecaster> but life is all about judging
everyone else for things that don't ultimately matter!
 
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L545[10:22:14] 

<Ariri>
%tonk at 222
 
L546[10:22:14] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Ariri, you were not able to beat Kodos's record of 8 hours, 40
minutes and 53 seconds this time. 4 hours, 49 minutes and 43
seconds were wasted! Missed by 3 hours, 51 minutes and 9
seconds!
 
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L548[11:04:04] <Michiyo> Hey it's 3
AM, I should upgrade Gitlab
 
L549[11:04:08] <Michiyo> and go to bed
while that's running!
 
L550[11:04:24] 

<Forecaster> or just go to bed
 
L551[11:04:29] 

<Forecaster> cause you know, sleep and
stuff
 
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L555[12:49:35] <Izaya> Amanda: do you have
a screensaver rc service?
 
L556[12:54:10] <Amanda> Izaya: for openos?
Yes, look under the tablets dir.
 
L557[12:55:02] <Izaya> hell yeah
 
L558[12:56:25] <Amanda> It even fires some
additional events so participating apps can ignore the key/mouse
events that wake it back up
 
L559[12:56:33] <Izaya> aah neat
 
L560[12:56:53] <Amanda> Since there's
no way to just eat the events from the rc swrvice
 
L561[12:56:54] <Izaya> looking at the
code, seems pleasant enough
 
L562[12:56:59] <Izaya> yeah
 
L563[12:57:07] <Izaya> might implement the
same in the PsychOS one
 
L564[12:57:39] <Izaya> tfw got
screensavers on my desktop machines because my power gen is
weak
 
L565[12:58:49] <Amanda> It's a bit
silly though. The support I put into the kittenos DE is a bit
smarter. But it's also much denser code
 
L566[12:59:04] <Amanda> Like, it
doesn't xare about multi-seat at all
 
L567[13:03:22] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
go to creative and fix the conveyer issue in the blueprint
 
L568[13:04:02] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
the lop-sided phaser too
 
L569[13:08:12] 

<Kristopher38> %tell dequbed I am well
aware of the focus of unis and my track record shows that I like
learning about algorithms, that's the very reason I chose it.
But besides that, there are quite a lot of subjects that deal with
practical things at the uni I'm gonna go to, like for example
one subject is basically implementing things on FPGAs. I think the
best part is the freedom I get, each semester I can choose around
70% of subjects to atte
 
L570[13:08:12] <MichiBot> Kristopher38:
dequbed will be notified of this message when next seen.
 
L571[13:08:12] 

<Kristopher38> the uni's offer
myself, which is great because I already know what I want so I can
pick them according to my interests. And even if they change
midway, I have the possibility to adapt which subjects I pick
accordingly
 
L572[13:09:29] <Amanda> Too long,
Kris
 
L573[13:10:13] <Amanda> though dequbed may
check the backlog and see the full thing
 
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L576[13:31:34] 

<Forecaster> %sip
 
L577[13:31:35] <MichiBot> You drink a
salty avesmingo potion (New!). The bottle turns into a piece of
bacon. Forecaster has found 1 piece of bacon so far.
 
L578[13:31:48] <sponge> %tonk
 
L579[13:31:48] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
sponge, you were not able to beat Kodos's record of 8 hours,
40 minutes and 53 seconds this time. 3 hours, 9 minutes and 34
seconds were wasted! Missed by 5 hours, 31 minutes and 19
seconds!
 
L580[13:32:06] <sponge> %sip
 
L581[13:32:06] <MichiBot> You drink a
smelly coral potion (New!). sponge turns into a fairy girl until
they have a nap.
 
L582[13:32:22] 

<Forecaster> found the Elfi potion
 
L583[13:32:23] <sponge> e
 
L584[13:32:32] <sponge> %sip
 
L585[13:32:33] <MichiBot> You drink a
viscous gold potion (New!). The bottle splits into two revealing a
smaller Smooth Currentcorn potion.
 
L586[13:32:43] <sponge> %sip
 
L587[13:32:43] <MichiBot> You drink a
basic cerulium potion (New!). Everything sponge says is now in
Wingdings until they eat a pie.
 
L588[13:32:53] <sponge> uh
 
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L590[13:34:51] <Amanda> %splash Inari with
mutable currentcorn potion
 
L591[13:34:51] <MichiBot> You fling a
mutable currentcorn potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari
turns into an avesmingo wolf boy until someone baps them.
 
L592[13:35:51] 

<Forecaster> %bap Inari
 
L593[13:35:52] <MichiBot> Forecaster baps
Inari with Michiyo's broken Crystal Ball!
 
L594[13:37:21] <Amanda> Rude, I
wasn't done taking pictures of her in cute butler
outfits
 
L595[13:48:47] 

<sapphicfettucine> i woke up and just
realized why the fuck my livestreamed audio was distorted
 
L596[13:49:17] 

<sapphicfettucine> i was sampling it at
44100Hz and not slowing down the tape, like a dumbass
 
L597[13:50:20] 

<sapphicfettucine> %sip
 
L598[13:50:20] <MichiBot> You drink a
mutable crimson potion (New!). sapphicfettucine turns into a
cerulium fairy boy until have some bacon.
 
L600[13:50:48] <MichiBot> 
Oh look, a
hill! | length: 
1m 29s | Likes: 
1,178 Dislikes: 
6 Views: 
5,504 | by 
Earthcomputer
| Published On 5/9/2020
 
L601[13:51:05] 

<sapphicfettucine> oh damn that was
quick
 
L602[13:51:07] 

<Kristopher38> gaming history right
here
 
L603[13:51:21] 

<Kristopher38> yeah quick, only took them
8 months
 
L604[13:51:32] 

<Kristopher38> "quick"
 
L605[13:51:35] 

<sapphicfettucine> for what it is,
yeah
 
L606[13:52:40] <Izaya> I miss the visible
lighting level changes
 
L607[13:56:05] 

<sapphicfettucine> oops i accidentally
corrupted my LionRay jar through weird bash piping
 
L608[13:56:46] 

<sapphicfettucine> i don't know how i
piped it's output into itself, but yknow
 
L609[14:04:34] 

<sapphicfettucine> i wonder if i can pull
of 96K dfpwm livestreaming
 
L610[14:19:26] <Inari> Amanda: rude
 
L611[14:19:41] <Inari> Amanda: butler
outfits look way better on girls anyway
 
L612[14:20:47] <Amanda> You're right,
I should have put boy-you in a maid outfit with a short skirt
instead. :P
 
L613[14:21:16] <Inari> Ehhhh
 
L614[14:22:13] <Inari> More into dansou
than the opposite :P
 
L615[14:22:58] 

<sapphicfettucine> is there much practical
difference in using computer.uptime() vs os.clock() for
timing?
 
L616[14:23:19] 

<Kristopher38> yes
 
L617[14:23:44] 

<Kristopher38> os.clock shows cpu time,
that is time lua spent in executor thread, and has a great
resolution
 
L618[14:23:50] <Izaya> IIRC os.clock is
program CPU time, whereas uptime is time since the computer turned
on
 
L619[14:24:08] 

<sapphicfettucine> yeah the resolution is
nice
 
L620[14:24:22] <Izaya> either way,
don't use os.time because it returns different units depending
on host OS
 
L621[14:24:23] 

<Kristopher38> computer.uptime shows real
world time, so time that has passed in the minecraft world
regardless of lua running or not, but it has a resolution of 1
tick, so 0.05 seconds
 
L622[14:24:39] 

<sapphicfettucine> cursed
 
L623[14:25:06] <Izaya> on *nix-likes you
get seconds but on windows you get ms so if you try to use os.time
things run 1000x faster
 
L624[14:26:26] 

<sapphicfettucine> thanks i hate it!
 
L625[14:27:07] <Izaya> this caused ...
network congestion issues on early minitel prototypes
 
L627[14:28:34] 

<sapphicfettucine> should i have that
event.pull()?
 
L628[14:29:02] <Izaya> it'll help but
you'll want to check that signal name
 
L629[14:29:05] 

<sapphicfettucine> or just set a timeout
and then use a pcall to avoid the error throwing
 
L630[14:29:19] <fingercomp> it's
`internet_ready`
 
L631[14:29:55] <Izaya> also I'm not
sure that event pulling will work as intended with os.clock
 
L632[14:30:16] <Izaya> like, when you
computer.pullSignal I thought it yielded your thread and stopped
counting
 
L633[14:30:26] <fingercomp> use
`computer.uptime`, `os.clock` will not work as expected
 
L634[14:30:38] 

<sapphicfettucine> alright, thanks!
 
L635[14:30:53] <Amanda> os.clock is
minecraft-universe time
 
L636[14:30:58] <fingercomp> and
you're calling an indirect component method (`socket.read`)
anyway, so all the more reason to ditch `os.clock`
 
L637[14:32:56] 

<sapphicfettucine> does anyone want to
take a look at my bad code?
 
L638[14:33:22] <dequbed> Amanda: Me
actually paying attention to chat? I'm way to stingy for
that.
 
L639[14:52:32] <Amanda> dequbed: I figured
you might when you saw the obviously-cut-off tell, but vOv
 
L640[14:53:58] <dequbed> Amanda: Well I
check when I get I pinged but with my very shaky hardware setup atm
I might miss a ping regardless
 
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L642[14:58:21] 

<sapphicfettucine> and another program
joins my ~~graveyard~~ github account
 
L643[15:00:18] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER:
blankets could do with a clean
 
L644[15:02:10] *
dequbed throws pieces of tuna at Amanda 
L645[15:04:32] 

<Forecaster> %choose it gets the
pizza?
 
L646[15:04:32] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Hm,
yeah okay.
 
L647[15:04:34] *
Amanda dodges 
L648[15:04:37] 

<Forecaster> woo
 
L649[15:05:01] 

<Forecaster> %fling tuna at dequbed
 
L650[15:05:01] <MichiBot> Forecaster is
flinging something at dequbed! They have 5 minutes if they want to
attempt to %defend against it!
 
L651[15:05:17] <dequbed> %defend
 
L652[15:05:18] <MichiBot> Specify an
action as the first parameter: block, guard, deflect, parry,
counterspell, dodge
 
L653[15:05:25] <dequbed> %dodge
 
L654[15:05:25] <MichiBot> dequbed fails to
dodge the tuna flung at them by Forecaster with a 9 vs 10, taking
the full 3 damage.
 
L655[15:05:30] <dequbed> Aw
 
L656[15:05:39] <dequbed> Amanda: I thought
you like tuna
 
L657[15:05:50] <Amanda> nope. I'm a
weird kitteh who doesn't like fish
 
L658[15:06:32] <dequbed> Fine, no sushi
for you then
 
L659[15:06:35] <Izaya> seafood is
overrated
 
L660[15:06:41] <Izaya> irradiated
plastic
 
L661[15:07:11] <dequbed> *all* food is
irradiated plastic at this point.
 
L662[15:07:11] 

<Forecaster> I like fish, but not
sushi
 
L663[15:07:43] <Izaya> I mean yeah, but
fish is a particularly extreme example
 
L664[15:08:22] <dequbed> Izaya: Shut up
and eat your plastic son.
 
L665[15:08:44] 

<Forecaster> I don't have a plastic
son
 
L666[15:09:41] <dequbed> @Forecaster also
American Sushi is particularly bad in my experience so I can't
fault you for not liking it.
 
L667[15:09:54] <Izaya> people are
technically edible
 
L668[15:10:01] 

<Forecaster> I've never been to
america or had american sushi
 
L669[15:10:02] <Izaya> all food is
irradiated plastic
 
L670[15:10:09] <Izaya> ergo, any son you
had would be plastic
 
L671[15:10:17] 

<Forecaster> I don't have any
children
 
L672[15:10:29] <Izaya> that's
probably for the best
 
L673[15:12:12] <dequbed> Is it bad that
I've always imagined Forecaster as redneck? <.<
 
L674[15:16:49] 

<Forecaster> not sure what would have
given you that impression but okay
 
L675[15:24:36] 

<Ariri>
Well this was an interesting read
 
L676[15:39:36] 

<sapphicfettucine> okay what the fuck
lmao
 
L677[15:39:36] 

<sapphicfettucine> the plustic dev put in
a function that makes it impossible for a player to join if the mod
is installed; not only that, pushed it to.. the public
repository
 
L678[15:40:29] 

<Forecaster> unless you're a true
g4m3r
 
L679[15:40:32] 

<Forecaster> :P
 
L680[15:40:43] 

<sapphicfettucine> it's so
ridiculously on the nose too]
 
L682[15:40:59] 

<sapphicfettucine> literally
cancelled.
 
L683[15:40:59] <Izaya> plustic?
 
L684[15:41:11] 

<sapphicfettucine> tinker's construct
expansion mod
 
L685[15:41:18] <Izaya> oh, a player,
singular
 
L686[15:41:25] 

<sapphicfettucine> yeah
 
L687[15:41:32] 

<sapphicfettucine> anyway, time to work on
solder packaging x.x
 
L688[15:41:34] <Izaya>
>setCanceled
 
L689[15:41:37] <Izaya> lmao
 
L690[15:41:43] 

<sapphicfettucine> i hate this fucking
software ™️
 
L691[15:42:38] 

<sapphicfettucine> fuck it i might just
change over to solder.cf because solder's default system is
murdering me
 
L692[15:49:14] 

<Bob> devs
that do that get their mods removed
 
L693[15:49:23] 

<Bob> and a
fork was made cancelling this change and back on CF
 
L694[15:53:11] 

<sapphicfettucine> if my vps crashes from
installing php i will die
 
L695[15:53:23] 

<sapphicfettucine> this is what i get for
being cheap and only buying 1gig of ram
 
L696[15:53:43] <Izaya> that's
1023.75GB more than you need
 
L697[15:53:47] <Izaya> s/GB/MB/
 
L698[15:53:47] <MichiBot> <Izaya>
that's 1023.75MB more than you need
 
L699[15:55:13] 

<sapphicfettucine> sigh it seems to be an
ubuntu thing
 
L700[15:55:25] 

<sapphicfettucine> i wish it wasn't
the only option for this host 😭
 
L701[16:02:27] <Amanda> [ one finger curls
as the wish is granted: That host is pivoting into exclusively
high-end Windows Server offerings ]
 
L702[16:04:33] 

<sapphicfettucine> FHJGASGHJ AMANDA
WHY
 
L703[16:08:20] 

<Bob> haha
decentralized downloads go br
 
L704[16:08:43] 

<Forecaster> sigh, why does Plex get stuck
with "garbage" in certain shows
 
L705[16:08:44] 

<Forecaster> :|
 
L706[16:09:18] 

<Forecaster> to fix it I have to remove
the episode files, re-scan, empty garbage, then put them back and
re-scan
 
L707[16:36:54] 

<Ocawesome101> Izaya: re power saving: you
could implement either scheduler timeouts or only resume threads on
a received signal, or both - unless it’s changed since I last
looked at it you just resume every 0.05s
 
L708[16:37:46] <Izaya> I can change the
timeout
 
L709[16:38:39] <Izaya> Ideally a
screensaver would make the machine run stuff less often when
it's not in use by adjusting up the timer
 
L711[16:48:09] 

<Forecaster> that's 70 shows I had to
clear out to get rid of the stupid garbage icons...
 
L712[16:48:11] 

<Forecaster> :|
 
L713[16:48:34] 

<Forecaster> and now it has to re-fetch
the metadata for them just because of that
 
L714[16:51:52] 

<Forecaster> 35% of my library
 
L715[17:10:44] 

<Forecaster> the worst part is wiping a
whole show makes Plex forget which episodes have been watched
 
L716[17:13:19] 

<Forecaster> oh, actually it looks like
when Plex fetches the metadata it also gets which episodes were
watched previously
 
L717[17:13:23] 

<Forecaster> not sure why that is
 
L718[17:20:29] 

<sapphicfettucine> i wonder if i could
make a jellyfish plugin that adds ice2 support
 
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L720[17:25:52] <bad_at_vijya> so
 
L721[17:26:12] <bad_at_vijya> soon(tm), i
will be activating my beast* of a server
 
L722[17:26:28] <bad_at_vijya> my PE2950
with 2x L5420s
 
L723[17:26:58] <bad_at_vijya> it will be
assisted by some fuckin Haswell Pentium POS
 
L724[17:29:57] <Elfi> My haswell computer:
:'(
 
L725[17:30:02] <bad_at_vijya> mind you,
it's faster than the computer i originally had assisting the
PE2950
 
L726[17:30:06] <bad_at_vijya> which had an
E1-2500
 
L727[17:30:07] <bad_at_vijya> :)
 
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L731[18:39:17] 

<k00lk4t>
whats the easiest png loader?
 
L732[18:39:35] 

<k00lk4t>
like i can just download a file to my computer and use it
 
L734[18:41:03] 

<k00lk4t>
thanks
 
L735[18:41:09] 

<ThePiGuy24> best i have made is a bmp
loader
 
L736[18:41:29] 

<ThePiGuy24> only 160x100 though
 
L737[18:41:33] 

<sapphicfettucine> CTIF or other
pre-processed formats/loaders will usually have better quality and
or work faster, tho
 
L738[18:41:39] 

<k00lk4t>
the thing i hate about the tier 3 card is it makes the UI really
small
 
L739[18:41:45] 

<k00lk4t>
so i only use tier 2
 
L740[18:41:53] 

<ThePiGuy24> just lower the
resolution
 
L741[18:41:54] 

<sapphicfettucine> you can change the
resolution
 
L742[18:41:56] 

<k00lk4t>
how?
 
L743[18:42:07] 

<sapphicfettucine> just do `resolution
width height`
 
L744[18:42:21] 

<sapphicfettucine> (maximum width is 160,
maximum height is 50)
 
L745[18:42:37] 

<k00lk4t>
whats the resolution of the tier 2 card + tier 2 screen (9x9
blocks)
 
L746[18:43:00] <Amanda> block count
doesn't matter
 
L747[18:43:01] 

<ThePiGuy24> 80x25
 
L748[18:43:30] 

<k00lk4t> i
had to be sure
 
L749[18:43:30] 

<sapphicfettucine> ^ it might make it
easier to look at without the screen open, tho
 
L750[18:43:54] 

<k00lk4t>
so i just run resolution 80 25?
 
L751[18:44:08] 

<Forecaster> also resolution is reset on
reboot
 
L752[18:44:15] 

<Forecaster> if you want it to auto set on
boot use
 
L753[18:44:16] 

<Forecaster> %autorun
 
L754[18:44:16] <MichiBot> Forecaster: In
OpenOS, in the file `/home/.shrc` put a single shell command on
each line
 
L755[18:44:27] 

<Forecaster> put the resolution command on
a line there
 
L757[18:44:42] 

<k00lk4t>
so `%autorun resolution 80 25`?
 
L758[18:44:50] 

<sapphicfettucine> no
 
L759[18:44:51] 

<Forecaster> no
 
L760[18:44:56] 

<sapphicfettucine> edit the /home/.shrc
file
 
L761[18:45:01] 

<Forecaster> read the text the bot
sent
 
L762[18:45:41] 

<k00lk4t>
im not too familiar with lua so can you just give me some text and
ill copy paste it into .shrc
 
L763[18:45:52] <Amanda> .shrc takes
commands, nto lua
 
L764[18:45:58] 

<Forecaster> ^
 
L765[18:46:13] 

<Forecaster> it's just the command
you use to run the resolution program in the
shell/commandline
 
L766[18:46:14] 

<k00lk4t>
oh so i open up .shrc
 
L767[18:46:27] 

<k00lk4t>
and then do %autorun resolution 80 25
 
L768[18:46:35] 

<Forecaster> no...
 
L769[18:46:49] 

<Forecaster> the %autorun was just to get
the bot to send the message
 
L770[18:46:53] 

<Forecaster> it has nothing to do with
oc
 
L771[18:46:56] 

<k00lk4t>
oh
 
L772[18:47:04] 

<k00lk4t>
so i open .shrc and say resolution 80 25
 
L773[18:47:06] 

<k00lk4t>
and thats all
 
L774[18:47:12] 

<Forecaster> you got it
 
L775[18:47:14] 

<k00lk4t>
then it will always be 80 25?
 
L776[18:47:38] 

<Forecaster> mhm
 
L777[18:47:43] 

<k00lk4t>
alr thanks
 
L779[18:51:36] 

<sapphicfettucine> being punished for uwu
crimes 😔
 
L780[18:51:54] 

<ThePiGuy24> that is the correct
response
 
L781[18:51:58] 

<k00lk4t>
^^
 
L782[18:52:07] ⇦
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L783[19:04:43] 

<Forecaster> %sip
 
L784[19:04:43] <MichiBot> You drink an
oxidised tuna potion (New!). After drinking the potion Forecaster
realizes the bottle has their face on it.
 
L785[19:05:12] 

<Forecaster> %fling face bottle
 
L786[19:05:12] <MichiBot> Forecaster
flings face bottle in a random direction. It hits the ground near
Kilobyte
 
L787[19:05:57] 

<sapphicfettucine> %sip
 
L788[19:05:57] <MichiBot> You drink a
muddy citrus potion (New!). sapphicfettucine's nose vanish
until they say the phrase "Sup Classic".
 
L789[19:06:19] 

<sapphicfettucine> ¯\(ツ)/¯
 
L790[19:09:03] 

<k00lk4t>
@Forecaster i did the thing and the resolution is 80 25 now
but
 
L791[19:09:10] 

<k00lk4t>
is there any way to get the tip text back?
 
L792[19:09:28] 

<k00lk4t>
the screen is just empty without it
 
L793[19:09:40] 

<Forecaster> `motd` maybe or
something
 
L794[19:10:06] 

<Forecaster> OpenOS loads it somehow
obviously but I don't know if there's a way to manually
trigger it
 
L795[19:10:23] 

<k00lk4t>
yeah im just gonna not
 
L796[19:10:28] 

<k00lk4t>
use the tier 3 graphics card
 
L797[19:10:34] 

<k00lk4t> i
dont care about loading pngs that much honestly
 
L798[19:11:01] 

<Forecaster> don't know what that has
to do with the tip text but okay
 
L799[19:20:34] 

<ThePiGuy24> Ctrl+D
 
L800[19:20:48] 

<ThePiGuy24> or run /etc/motd
 
L801[19:22:37] 

<Forecaster> @k00lk4t there you go
 
L802[19:22:54] 

<k00lk4t>
ok thanks but im still using the tier 2 card
 
L803[19:23:44] 

<Forecaster> kay
 
L804[19:30:14] ⇦
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L806[19:42:08] 

<Ariri>
Also this link is atrocious
 
L807[19:44:58]
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L808[19:45:17] 

<Forecaster> about 3 hours later and Plex
is still chugging along with that metadata
 
L809[19:45:21] <CompanionCube> Corded:
consider that the british one was an official post by the tory
party
 
L810[19:45:30] <CompanionCube> oops,
Ariri
 
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L812[19:48:42] 

<sapphicfettucine> making a new motd
program that fetches a random dril tweet to show after each
boot
 
L813[20:09:17] 

<k00lk4t>
Some idiot snuck into my base and deleted all of the greeting
messages and said "k00lk4t is stinky"
 
L814[20:09:27] 

<k00lk4t>
can anyone give me all of the original greeting messages
 
L815[20:09:37] 

<Forecaster> re-install OpenOS
 
L816[20:09:44] 

<k00lk4t>
@Forecaster will it not delete my files?
 
L817[20:10:00] 

<Forecaster> no, it just copies in the
original files
 
L818[20:10:03] 

<k00lk4t>
oh good
 
L819[20:10:03] 

<MGR> You
could try copying the motd file from the OpenOS floppy, but I
forget where that is
 
L820[20:10:17] 

<sapphicfettucine> also make your computer
user locked
 
L821[20:10:22] 

<Forecaster> unless you wipe the drive or
change drives or something first
 
L822[20:11:32] 

<k00lk4t>
@sapphicfettucine the last time i did that he got it in a cardboard
box and put it somewhere random in a nearby forest and none of us
could find it
 
L823[20:12:03] 

<bad at
vijya> [x] nice
 
L824[20:12:09] 

<Forecaster> use OpenSecurity to prevent
accessing it
 
L825[20:12:18] 

<Forecaster> as in, accessing the room
it's in
 
L826[20:12:18] 

<bad at
vijya> that's when you boobytrap your base with nuclear
weapons
 
L827[20:12:19] 

<Kristopher38> 👌
 
L828[20:12:20] 

<Ocawesome101> @k00lk4t in the shell run
`adduser <yourusername>`
 
L829[20:12:21] 

<k00lk4t>
the modpack i play on does thave OS
 
L830[20:12:36] 

<bad at
vijya> "fuck you, fuck me, and fuck everything
else"
 
L831[20:12:40] 

<k00lk4t>
@Ocawesome101 yeah ik but he just straight up put the computer in a
cardboard box and moved it away
 
L832[20:12:58] 

<k00lk4t>
@Ocawesome101 shell?
 
L833[20:13:00] 

<k00lk4t>
lua?
 
L834[20:13:04] 

<Ocawesome101> iirc doing that prevents
everyone ecept server ops from doing anything with your
computer
 
L835[20:13:08] 

<Ocawesome101> no, the OpenOS shell
 
L836[20:13:13] 

<k00lk4t>
.shrc?
 
L837[20:13:21] 

<Ocawesome101> ...no
 
L838[20:13:38] 

<bad at
vijya> my current mood is screeee
 
L839[20:13:41] 

<sapphicfettucine> the command line
 
L840[20:13:42] 

<Ocawesome101> the shell
 
L841[20:13:44] 

<Ocawesome101> the command line
 
L842[20:14:03] 

<k00lk4t> i
forgot how to enter that
 
L843[20:14:24] 

<sapphicfettucine> it's
 
L844[20:14:28] 

<Ocawesome101> you literally just type it
and press enter
 
L845[20:14:36] 

<bad at
vijya> man
 
L846[20:14:38] 

<sapphicfettucine> you're always in
it unless you're running a program my dude
 
L847[20:14:40] 

<k00lk4t>
it said "adduser not found"
 
L848[20:14:46] 

<bad at
vijya> i should work on Tsuki
 
L849[20:14:48] 

<bad at
vijya> might be useradd
 
L850[20:14:55] 

<sapphicfettucine> probably useradd
 
L851[20:14:57] 

<k00lk4t>
that worked
 
L852[20:14:59] 

<k00lk4t>
thanks
 
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L854[21:16:47] <Michiyo> Ok, after I take
Naomi to work I'll need to get OCDoc up, and Jenkins, with a
VERY limited subset of my projects.
 
L855[21:17:34] <Michiyo> Corded, MichiBot,
OpenSec/Printer/FM/Lights/Sensors, and ben's mod
 
L856[21:23:20]
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L857[21:23:44] <Somerandomctfer> Is it
possible to run minecraft commands over LUA?
 
L858[21:23:46] <MichiBot> It's Lua,
not LUA. Name not an acronym.
 
L859[21:23:57] <Somerandomctfer> Ok
Lua
 
L860[21:24:11] 

<Forecaster> yes, with a debug card or a
command block + adapter
 
L861[21:24:19] <Somerandomctfer> Ok thank
you
 
L862[21:24:27] ⇦
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L863[21:27:07] 

<bad at
vijya> LUA
 
L864[21:27:07] <MichiBot> It's Lua,
not LUA. Name not an acronym.
 
L865[21:27:21] 

<bad at
vijya> lua uppercase accident
 
L866[21:54:27] <CompanionCube> oh look
another CTFer, hah
 
L867[21:55:25] *
CompanionCube does hope that divergentdave ends up doing a writeup,
whoever they are 
L868[21:55:54] 

<bad at
vijya> huh?
 
L870[21:59:35] 

<bad at
vijya> huh
 
L871[21:59:36] 

<bad at
vijya> neat
 
L873[22:36:25] <Michiyo> Oh, right... no
anon access lol
 
L874[22:38:12] ⇦
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seconds) 
L875[22:41:20] <Amanda> It's okay, I
stole your password when you went to clean the liter tray
 
L876[22:41:23] <Amanda> It's
hunter2
 
L877[22:41:31] <Michiyo> lol
 
L878[22:41:59] 

<Ariri>
change the username to ‘password’ she’ll never get it now
 
L879[22:44:47] <Michiyo> umm, huh
 
L880[22:44:57] <Michiyo> I don't have
admin access on my own Jenkins instance
 
L881[22:45:47] 

<sapphicfettucine> amanda what did you
send, on my screen it only shows up as \ \\ \ \ \\*
 
L882[22:45:54] 

<sapphicfettucine> yikes
 
L883[22:46:03] 

<sapphicfettucine> discord escaping does
not work as intended
 
L884[22:46:07] <Amanda> Michiyo: Security
so good not even you can get in!
 
L885[22:46:39] 

<sapphicfettucine> i need to get my znc
back up x.x
 
L886[22:47:39] 

<Ariri> I
dont see anything strange from Amanda recently
 
L887[22:48:00] <Amanda> She's talking
baout hunter2
 
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L889[22:48:23] <Amanda> %choose paper
story or radiactive story
 
L890[22:48:23] <MichiBot> Amanda: My
grandfather always told me that "radiactive story" is the
way to go!
 
L891[22:48:28] 

<sapphicfettucine> *????
 
L892[22:48:38] 

<sapphicfettucine> god i hate this fucking
software
 
L894[22:48:49] 

<Ariri> Not
sure, but I see this
 
L896[22:50:06] <Amanda> Remember, the
school admin password is *******
 
L897[22:50:15] 

<Ariri>
ah
 
L898[22:50:17] <Amanda> It's not
censored, it's literally 7 stars!
 
L899[22:52:53] 

<sapphicfettucine> or 3 for us discord
folk x.x
 
L900[22:53:21] <Izaya> Morning nerds
 
L901[22:53:28] <Amanda> Meowning
Izaya
 
L902[22:54:45] 

<sapphicfettucine> mornin' nerd
 
L903[22:59:06] <Izaya> Glad I went for a
ride yesterday, it's rainy out there today >.>
 
L904[22:59:27] <Amanda> Sorry, I pushed
Inari's water over onto Australia
 
L905[23:01:09] <Izaya> Couldn't have
done that in summer? >.>
 
L906[23:01:13] <Izaya> Ariri:
 
L908[23:01:40] <Amanda> Izaya: I tried
that, turns out she was drinking alchohol and some idiot lit a
match
 
L909[23:03:20] <Amanda> Izaya: tfw
you're not sure if that's a show clip, or some memey
RGB-gamer gear satire
 
L910[23:08:54] <Izaya> Nor I
 
L911[23:10:03] <Izaya> Everyone be like,
who is Rem
 
L912[23:10:12] <Izaya> But it must be
asked
 
L913[23:10:18] <Izaya> Why is Rem?
 
L914[23:10:41] 

<bad at
vijya> when is rem
 
L915[23:12:57] <Amanda> %roll 1d3
 
L916[23:12:57] <MichiBot> 2
 
L917[23:16:56] 

<sapphicfettucine> never hand people your
phone. never hand people your phone. never hand people your phone.
never hand people your phone-
 
L918[23:17:22] 

<sapphicfettucine> i just had an emotional
heart attack jesus
 
L919[23:18:57] *
Amanda pushes her phone off the table 
L920[23:19:17] 

<sapphicfettucine> hey!! the screen is
already cracked >:
 
L921[23:20:31] 

<Ocawesome101> ...how tf do i craft an ibm
5150 case, i'm trying the recipe specified but can't get
anything
 
L922[23:21:11] 

<bad at
vijya> ace combat music over long night of solace is so fuckin
blursed
 
L923[23:21:12] 

<Ocawesome101> (with OCDevices)
 
L924[23:21:23] 

<Kristopher38> @Ocawesome101 check the
source code for recipes
 
L925[23:21:34] 

<Ocawesome101> k, i was about to do that
anyway :P
 
L926[23:21:43] 

<Kristopher38> jei can sometimes get a
wrong recipe somehow
 
L927[23:21:53] 

<Kristopher38> I've had that happen
with chunkloader upgrade I believe?
 
L928[23:22:07] 

<Ocawesome101> ....
 
L929[23:22:19] 

<Ocawesome101> in the manual it says 5x
iron + t3 case
 
L930[23:22:19] 

<Kristopher38> or something else, it asked
for eye of ender while the correct recipe was to craft it with
ender pearl or something like that
 
L931[23:22:35] 

<Ocawesome101> in the source it says
something entirely different....
 
L932[23:23:55] <Izaya> Try a T1 case
 
L933[23:24:00] 

<sapphicfettucine> minecraft's recipe
system is a fucck
 
L934[23:24:01] <Izaya> There are upgrade
thingos
 
L935[23:24:22] 

<sapphicfettucine> actually 90% of
minecraft/forge's registry systems are a fuck
 
L936[23:26:13] 

<Ocawesome101> ah
 
L937[23:26:21] 

<Ocawesome101> yeah, t3 upgrade
worked
 
L938[23:28:13] 

<Forecaster> %tonk
 
L939[23:28:14] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket!
Forecaster! You beat Kodos's previous record of 8 hours, 40
minutes and 53 seconds (By 1 hour, 15 minutes and 31 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
 
L940[23:28:14] <MichiBot>
Forecaster's new record is 9 hours, 56 minutes and 25 seconds!
Forecaster also gained 0.01134 (0.00126 x 9) tonk points for
stealing the tonk. Position #1.
 
L942[23:29:05] <MichiBot> Sat Sep 05
13:19:00 UTC 2020 @Foone: I'm still playing with my
replacement OLED display for the Equate pregnancy tester.
 
L943[23:30:11] <Michiyo> \o/ BUILD FAILED
in 12s
 
L944[23:30:13] <Michiyo> Oh.. wait
 
L945[23:31:35] 

<Forecaster> Fail fast
 
L946[23:34:00] <Michiyo> I had JRE
installed, not JDK
 
L947[23:38:39] 

<Forecaster> Probably helps
 
L948[23:42:20] <Michiyo> Ok, set next
build number to 913
 
L949[23:42:25] <Michiyo> now to get it
building on commit