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L1[00:04:53] <Kristo​pher38> bruh
L2[00:05:40] <Sagh​etti> what
L3[00:05:41] <Kristo​pher38> you know what the answer is
L4[00:05:52] <Sagh​etti> yes
L5[00:05:58] <Lizzy> neither!
L6[00:05:59] <Sagh​etti> the answer is 2011 technic for b1.7.3
L7[00:06:17] <Sagh​etti> what then
L8[00:06:24] <Sagh​etti> actually do my schoolwork like a responsible person?
L9[00:06:56] <Sagh​etti> that's boring
L10[00:07:26] ⇦ Quits: Inari (~Pinkishu@p4fd95302.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)
L11[00:17:11] <Thanos-​No Snap> Does {...} create an empty table in lua?
L12[00:17:28] <Thanos-​No Snap> or is that just for args?
L13[00:17:38] <Sagh​etti> it makes a table all right
L14[00:17:48] <Brisingr​Aerowing> {} is an empty table.
L15[00:18:16] <Thanos-​No Snap> im trying to figure out the meaning of this: local arg = {...}
L16[00:18:31] <pay​onel> `...` represents a varargs parameter to a function. and a lua script is executed as a function
L17[00:18:45] <pay​onel> and so, you can use `...` to access args passed to the script
L18[00:19:18] <Sagh​etti> ohhhhh
L19[00:19:23] <Sagh​etti> thats what you meant
L20[00:19:29] <pay​onel> when you run a script from the shell, e.g. `cmd arga argb` the shell will parse out the `arga` and `argb` and pass those as string values to the script
L21[00:19:31] <Sagh​etti> i thought ... was just a placeholder :facepalm:
L22[00:19:48] <Thanos-​No Snap> 😮 I see
L23[00:20:01] <pay​onel> somewhere inside the shell code, there is a `loadfile(scriptfilepath)` which turns your script into a function
L24[00:20:27] <pay​onel> then, the shell executes that function: `scriptasafunction("arga", "arg_b")` <- not literal, but essentially that
L25[00:21:15] <pay​onel> inside your script, you have NOT defined it as a function, but it is called as a function. so...without your function header, how are you naming parameters passed to it? you don't, but you DO have access to `...` which is just all the args passed
L26[00:21:36] <pay​onel> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/adapikidij
L27[00:21:41] <pay​onel> that is basically the same as
L28[00:21:48] <pay​onel> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ixeyopedey
L29[00:22:00] <Thanos-​No Snap> 😮
L30[00:22:09] <Blue_595> ok so what was that
L31[00:24:17] <Ko​dos> You can also do function(a,b,c,...)
L32[00:24:17] <Ko​dos> I think
L33[00:24:17] <B​ob> yes you can
L34[00:24:17] <Ko​dos> Been a year since I've written code
L35[00:24:17] <pay​onel> yes you can, i felt that was slightly outside the point i was making
L36[00:24:17] <pay​onel> but yes
L37[00:24:17] <Sagh​etti> kodos is alive again o_O
L38[00:24:17] <B​ob> you can this way strip args from the vararg
L39[00:24:17] <Thanos-​No Snap> vararg
L40[00:24:17] <B​ob> ...
L41[00:24:17] <Thanos-​No Snap> whats vararg [Edited]
L42[00:24:17] <pay​onel> variable arguments
L43[00:24:22] <Thanos-​No Snap> Oh
L44[00:24:33] <pay​onel> it's type of ... collection of arguments passed to a function
L45[00:27:10] <Ocawes​ome101> @Saghetti orca raiding server obviously
L46[00:27:10] <Ocawes​ome101> this post sponsored by the OCRS gang
L47[00:27:41] <Kristo​pher38> yes
L48[00:28:08] <Ocawes​ome101> I ~~need~~ want more players lol
L49[00:28:21] <Sagh​etti> post it on a server list or smth i guess
L50[00:28:42] <Kristo​pher38> that would be horrible
L51[00:28:50] <Sagh​etti> horrible?
L52[00:28:56] <Sagh​etti> you said you wanted more players
L53[00:29:07] <Sagh​etti> (i mean, you didn't, but you get the point(
L54[00:29:19] <Klea​dron> lots of unfamiliar people
L55[00:29:20] <Kristo​pher38> I don't actually want random people
L56[00:29:22] <Thanos-​No Snap> Is there an OC server with cool builds?
L57[00:30:08] <Kristo​pher38> there's no guarantee they will respect the rules and @Ocawesome101 would have to do more maintenance than necessary to clean up after them :P
L58[00:30:25] <Kristo​pher38> anyway i'm playing rn
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L60[00:45:33] <Ocawes​ome101> so @Kleadron are you planning to play on my server and that's why you're writing this base control software or is there some other reason?
L61[00:45:35] ⇦ Quits: Blue_595 (~c8h10n4o2@47.196.97.219) (Ping timeout: 204 seconds)
L62[00:45:56] <Sagh​etti> i'm writing my own base control software
L63[00:45:56] <Sagh​etti> bet
L64[00:45:58] <Klea​dron> no? i was playing on ariri's server, didn't even know you had a server
L65[00:46:01] <Ocawes​ome101> oh
L66[00:46:02] <Ocawes​ome101> ok
L67[00:46:06] <Sagh​etti> wait what
L68[00:46:07] <Sagh​etti> plot twist
L69[00:46:07] <Ocawes​ome101> well, I do :P
L70[00:46:16] <Ocawes​ome101> saghetti: what?
L71[00:47:00] <Sagh​etti> i thought he was playing on your server'
L72[00:47:07] <Ocawes​ome101> nice
L73[00:49:43] <Thanos-​No Snap> Anyone know if there is a way for OC to read how much space left in storage cells of the network?
L74[00:49:49] <Ocawes​ome101> uh
L75[00:49:50] <Ocawes​ome101> what?
L76[00:50:04] <Sagh​etti> storage cells as in
L77[00:50:06] <Ocawes​ome101> `fs.spaceTotal() - fs.spaceUsed()` works for filesystem components
L78[00:50:30] <Klea​dron> the reason i made this software in the first place is because openos was making me frustrated and i couldn't make my background process password lock work
L79[00:50:47] <pay​onel> @Thanos-No Snap i dont believe i've exposed that from ae
L80[00:50:56] <Ocawes​ome101> Kleadron: fair
L81[00:51:14] <Ocawes​ome101> highly specialized base control software ftw
L82[00:51:27] <Sagh​etti> BMaCS? psssh
L83[00:51:29] <Sagh​etti> i only use MUCSaNOS
L84[00:51:37] <Ocawes​ome101> I'll probably write one on top of Monolith or something like that - maybe one of my other projects I haven't released yet
L85[00:51:54] <Thanos-​No Snap> @Ocawesome101 are you talking about AE? I dont think it works as a fs comp
L86[00:52:10] <Sagh​etti> it doesn't
L87[00:52:13] <Ocawes​ome101> ah
L88[00:52:16] <Ocawes​ome101> well then
L89[00:52:18] <Ocawes​ome101> no idea
L90[00:52:22] <Sagh​etti> he didn't know what you meant by storage cell
L91[00:52:27] <Thanos-​No Snap> Oh ok
L92[00:52:33] <Ocawes​ome101> as payonel says there probably isn't a way currently
L93[00:52:38] <Sagh​etti> @Kleadron who can make the best base control system?
L94[00:52:49] <Sagh​etti> ~~duel to the death~~
L95[00:53:04] <Thanos-​No Snap> @payonel so currently there is not way to read storage cell data?
L96[00:53:10] <Thanos-​No Snap> I mean size etc.
L97[00:53:15] <Sagh​etti> i'm making my own BCS
L98[00:53:22] <Sagh​etti> with blackjack and hookers
L99[00:53:32] <Sagh​etti> i mean with directory services and ACLs
L100[00:53:53] <Klea​dron> what's an ACL
L101[00:54:14] <Sagh​etti> cool stuff
L102[00:54:29] <Sagh​etti> ~~aka the reason why my BCS will be the best of them all~~
L103[00:54:59] <Sagh​etti> access control list
L104[00:55:15] <Sagh​etti> like a list of users or groups that have permissions to access a certain resource
L105[00:55:34] <Sagh​etti> so you could create a user account that has access to only a specific portion of your devices
L106[00:56:02] <pay​onel> @Thanos-No Snap i've not done a deep deep dive into AE for storage cell capacity and current allocated space, but in all the interfaces I have used with oc, none of them have anything about that
L107[00:56:23] <Klea​dron> cool
L108[00:57:00] <Sagh​etti> so by base control system, you just mean a terminal that can control devices (redstone signals) remotely
L109[00:57:15] <Sagh​etti> so you could activate some mechanism by running a command
L110[00:57:16] <Sagh​etti> right?
L111[00:57:31] <Klea​dron> base management and control system
L112[00:57:37] <Klea​dron> it manages the base and lets you control it
L113[00:57:40] <Thanos-​No Snap> It seems like there is a size function, but it says unsupported 😦 http://tinyurl.com/y7cmppgl
L114[00:57:46] <Klea​dron> yes you could run a command to do something
L115[00:57:58] <Sagh​etti> ooh
L116[00:58:06] <Sagh​etti> i just got hit by another large brain idea
L117[00:58:16] <Sagh​etti> autonomous events and scripts
L118[00:58:45] <Sagh​etti> (pls dont steal, mine needs to be the best)
L119[00:59:10] <Klea​dron> the idea is i can add system extensions to the system and that would let it do more things like manage a nuclear reactor or do password lock security doors
L120[01:00:01] <Klea​dron> and i'm debating if i want to do a full internal network and/or just use the server rack and server like a normal person and get an increased component limit
L121[01:01:45] <Sagh​etti> i'm going for a full internal network
L122[01:02:04] <Sagh​etti> with portions of it being wireless
L123[01:02:22] <Sagh​etti> so you can put microcontrollers and stuff without needing to wire it to everything else
L124[01:02:32] <Thanos-​No Snap> Anyone know what function():int, entails? Is that just asking for function(int) ? http://tinyurl.com/ybg3trwa
L125[01:03:04] <Sagh​etti> returns a number
L126[01:03:13] <Sagh​etti> (integer)
L127[01:03:22] <Sagh​etti> that's what it means
L128[01:03:59] <Thanos-​No Snap> Hmm thats what I thought. But calling size() says unsupported op. So I guess as payonel said it is not supported lol
L129[01:04:10] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L130[01:04:28] <Sagh​etti> ooh how about SMBCS
L131[01:04:38] <Sagh​etti> scriptable multi-user base control system
L132[01:04:48] <Thanos-​No Snap> Saturday morning breakfast cereal?
L133[01:04:51] <pay​onel> @Thanos-No Snap that's not my code
L134[01:05:03] <pay​onel> that's not in OC proper
L135[01:05:10] <pay​onel> that's being added by another mod
L136[01:05:14] <Thanos-​No Snap> I have computronics, maybe it is doing that
L137[01:05:43] <pay​onel> i did some searching via google, and i couldn't find anything helpful
L138[01:05:50] <pay​onel> are you using refined storage or ae?
L139[01:06:02] <Thanos-​No Snap> AE2
L140[01:06:35] <Sagh​etti> https://ocdoc.cil.li/component:applied_energistics
L141[01:06:37] <Thanos-​No Snap> It can read network power useage, but I was surprised to see it couldn't read size of drives as it "seems" like a basic thing
L142[01:07:06] <pay​onel> sure, but it depends on the data available in ae interfaces
L143[01:07:14] <pay​onel> which again, i've seen no such data in their interfaces
L144[01:07:46] <Thanos-​No Snap> Oh I see
L145[01:08:14] <Amanda> Well, that was a code fugue self-snipe
L146[01:08:15] <Ar​iri> Why are two people competing to build the program I haven't even started yet lol
L147[01:08:15] <Ar​iri> I've been planning it since before the server went up, but I dont even have the resources for the computer itself yet
L148[01:08:34] <Amanda> but I have now ported picol to Lua
L149[01:08:34] <pay​onel> @Thanos-No Snap and i'm not talking about the "interface" block. i'm talking about code api
L150[01:08:41] <Klea​dron> i wasn't even trying to compete :P
L151[01:08:46] <Klea​dron> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L152[01:09:37] <Thanos-​No Snap> Yep I realized that lol
L153[01:10:13] <Thanos-​No Snap> @payonel I am currently using OC build 192, has a lot changed since up to build 208?
L154[01:10:15] <Sagh​etti> i am though
L155[01:10:36] <Amanda> @Ariri I'm not braining enough to parse the scroll back, what program is it?
L156[01:10:37] <pay​onel> 16 commits worth of changes
L157[01:10:37] <Sagh​etti> it's probably never going to come to fruition though
L158[01:10:38] <pay​onel> 🙂
L159[01:11:23] <Thanos-​No Snap> nifty
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L161[01:11:36] <Ar​iri> Amanda: I proposed a question a few days ago about how I could go about extensive control and automation of all base functions with OC
L162[01:11:50] <Thanos-​No Snap> setup microcontrollers everywhere lol
L163[01:13:03] <Amanda> whoops. There goes my stability
L164[01:13:11] <Amanda> Apparently I knocked the wire out of my laptop during the fugue
L165[01:13:24] <Amanda> so now the iGPU drivers will probably die
L166[01:23:17] <Ar​iri> Amanda: To confirm, mffs tube and cylinder modules require recipes?
L167[01:23:29] <Amanda> @ARiri yeah, possibly others
L168[01:23:29] <Ar​iri> %s/cylinder/sphere
L169[01:23:30] <MichiBot> <Ariri> Amanda: To confirm, mffs tube and sphere modules require recipes?
L170[01:23:40] <Ar​iri> Ill check them all then
L171[01:23:57] <Ar​iri> Might make it so they all turn into each other, ill see
L172[01:25:44] <Ar​iri> Also, if I use `cp` with `-f` for two folders of the same name, will they merge and overwrite?
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L175[01:37:24] <Amanda> @Payonel is component.filesystem.seek called at all for a io.open'd file? NOt sure if this is my fault or OpenOS's https://nc.ddna.co/s/NiZnztjBcgy8WzA
L176[01:38:07] <Amanda> @payonel not sure how start + readSize is getting to be "no integer representation"
L177[01:40:26] <Amanda> Izaya: today's cursed idea: I made it so that my PXE system can send a secondary payload, with the idea being CPIO/mtar/whatever images will be thatpayload,with the unpacker the bootfile. So: make the paylod of my security pxe images be a tcl script that handles the logic of the door.
L178[02:02:04] <Ar​iri> @Forecaster Just thought of something, maybe for a pack using Packer2, have certain file endings correlate to certain folder paths. ex: `.zs` files default to `scripts/`
L179[02:02:05] <Ar​iri> The new importer may not need this feature and its not much of an extra step to copy/paste the paths anyways, but just a thought.
L180[02:04:35] ⇨ Joins: Blue_595 (~c8h10n4o2@47.196.97.219)
L181[02:06:05] <Blue_595> i have a lot more respect for 1961 IBM engineers
L182[02:06:16] <Blue_595> ive tried routing a 2-bit register, and failed
L183[02:08:30] <Blue_595> although the SMS cards seem to have a lot of jumpers
L184[02:09:52] <Sagh​etti> 1401 stuff?
L185[02:13:03] <Blue_595> yes im freaking obsessed now
L186[02:13:26] <Blue_595> im pretty sure those tape drives were for the S/360, and in fact were never available for the 1401
L187[02:16:37] <Sagh​etti> ?!
L188[02:16:47] <Sagh​etti> those are literally the most iconic part of the 1401
L189[02:17:00] <Blue_595> fuck
L190[02:17:14] <Blue_595> most iconic part of any old IBM mainframe really
L191[02:17:20] <Blue_595> the part that keeps getting smashed in movies
L192[02:17:37] <Blue_595> cuz nobody's brave/stupid enough to smash the CPU, the boss would kill them
L193[02:18:25] <Blue_595> wait what kind of I/O did those drives use
L194[02:18:56] <Amanda> %choose continue stabbing at cube code or veg out to radiation or veg out to halucinations
L195[02:18:57] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I want a divorce. I'm taking half the "veg out to halucinations".
L196[02:19:02] <Amanda> D:
L197[02:19:06] <Amanda> Not half my stories!
L198[02:19:45] <Blue_595> continue stabbing at cube code
L199[02:26:36] <Blue_595> continue stabbing at cube code
L200[02:27:37] <Blue_595> continue stabbing at cube code
L201[02:27:46] <Amanda> %bap Blue_595
L202[02:27:47] <MichiBot> Amanda baps Blue_595 with the secret stash of toilet paper!
L203[02:28:32] <Blue_595> %bap Amanda
L204[02:28:32] <MichiBot> Blue_595 baps Amanda with chicken!
L205[02:28:53] * Amanda grabs the chicken, runs off to Lizzy with it, hoping she'll cook it for her.
L206[02:29:11] <Blue_595> %bap Amanda
L207[02:29:12] <MichiBot> Blue_595 baps Amanda with 11x Compressed Sentences!
L208[02:31:11] <Amanda> %remindme 11h Make an offering to the stain gods
L209[02:31:12] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "Make an offering to the stain gods" at 05/31/2020 05:31:11 AM
L210[02:31:21] <Amanda> Will I remember what that means? Who knows!
L211[02:32:08] ⇦ Quits: Blue_595 (~c8h10n4o2@47.196.97.219) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
L212[02:32:09] * Amanda snugs up against Lizzy, making sure to leave some room for Elfi, goes off to halucinate
L213[02:33:26] <Ar​iri> Updating pack now
L214[02:33:43] <Amanda> kk.
L215[02:33:55] <Amanda> I'll close my instance tonight then, so it can update in the meowning
L216[02:33:56] <Amanda> -> typos
L217[02:34:25] <Klea​dron> this is the strangest place
L218[02:34:33] <Klea​dron> catgirls petting catgirls
L219[02:35:01] <Ar​iri> Elfi is faerie I think
L220[02:36:09] <Amanda> And I'm just a cat
L221[02:40:45] <Ar​iri> hrm... i buggered up the scripts update...
L222[02:40:57] <Ar​iri> theres a duplicate now, bc i renamed it.
L223[02:44:13] <Brisingr​Aerowing> I'm a Gryphon. So part cat, part bird.
L224[02:44:29] <Brisingr​Aerowing> And yes, this is a rather strange place.
L225[02:44:48] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Though there are stranger ones.
L226[02:47:20] <Ar​iri> Strange is cool though.
L227[02:55:45] <Amanda> @ariri there should be a way to remove files in the UI?
L228[02:57:18] <Ar​iri> Well I thought the update function would, it doesnt seem to get rid of the file with the different name, despite it not being in the ui
L229[02:57:34] <Ar​iri> lets see if it causes an issue, it didnt for the new EIO jar at least
L230[03:09:08] <pay​onel> amanda did you figure out the string.sub number issue?
L231[03:10:55] <Amanda> @payonel nope, but I've also not looked to much more into it
L232[03:11:51] <Amanda> @payonel what type / values is whence?
L233[03:12:07] <Ar​iri> Server is up, pack update needed before joining
L234[03:13:14] <Brisingr​Aerowing> From a quick Google, that occurs in Lua 5.3 when a floating point number with a decimal part is passed to a method requiring an integer. I'm guessing Lua math is a bit weird with that, as it uses doubles internally.
L235[03:13:30] <Amanda> @payonel it's entirely possible I'm breaking the "contract" of the fs component in my implementation
L236[03:14:01] <pay​onel> amanda: do let me know what you find or if you get stuck
L237[03:14:25] <Amanda> payonel: sure, I'll give it a look again tomorrow
L238[03:15:00] <Amanda> I'm vegging out for the night before sleeps
L239[03:17:06] <Ar​iri> Uh what... all the CT scripts arent working now..
L240[03:17:45] <Amanda> %tell Inari look, a doggo! http://imgur.com/gallery/oSJpJyy
L241[03:18:29] <Michiyo> s/ //
L242[03:18:29] <MichiBot> <Amanda> %tell Inari look, a doggo! http://imgur.com/gallery/oSJpJyy
L243[03:18:35] <Michiyo> ah damn right lol
L244[03:19:56] <Amanda> %tell Inari look, a doggo! http://imgur.com/gallery/oSJpJyy
L245[03:19:57] <MichiBot> Amanda: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L246[03:20:47] <Amanda> I'm not sure if IRCcloud was stripping the spaces, or if I've just recently started doing that
L247[03:22:12] <Brisingr​Aerowing> https://imgur.com/gallery/82lD7vB
L248[03:22:47] <Ar​iri> are you kidding me
L249[03:22:54] <Amanda> Damnit, I was about to link that
L250[03:23:34] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Ha!
L251[03:24:09] <Ar​iri> I dont know how, but all the scripts got overwritten as blank ones
L252[03:24:25] <Brisingr​Aerowing> That's a bit of a problem.
L253[03:24:34] <Ar​iri> what an outright pain in the arse
L254[03:34:06] <Amanda> Izaya: https://i.imgur.com/sqrKR6j.jpg
L255[03:42:18] <Mili​-Chan> is this a good place to ask dumb questions i cant find the answers too?
L256[03:42:31] <pay​onel> probably
L257[03:43:52] <Mili​-Chan> oki
L258[03:43:52] <Mili​-Chan> i made a simple autorun program that i can run it fine manually, but doesnt run on boot. the '/ #' is also red? idk why and i cant find anything about the console changing text colours on its own
L259[03:44:55] <pay​onel> red is the default PS1 color, that's the shell prompt
L260[03:45:05] <pay​onel> where is your autorun file?
L261[03:45:18] <Mili​-Chan> in / #
L262[03:45:25] <pay​onel> why are you saying # ?
L263[03:45:34] <pay​onel> that's not part of the path
L264[03:45:42] <Mili​-Chan> thats what the console displays
L265[03:45:46] <Mili​-Chan> sry, its just in /
L266[03:45:56] <pay​onel> that's not part of a path, that's just part of the prompt
L267[03:46:05] <pay​onel> to help you see a separation between your shell command and the path
L268[03:46:06] <Mili​-Chan> ok
L269[03:46:16] <pay​onel> so you have a file `/autorun.lua` ?
L270[03:46:25] <Mili​-Chan> yeah
L271[03:46:52] <pay​onel> can you check if there is a file `/tmp/event.log`
L272[03:47:06] <Mili​-Chan> there is not
L273[03:47:50] <pay​onel> can you open the lua repl, and run: `filesystem.isAutorunEnabled()`
L274[03:47:59] <pay​onel> you start the lua repl by running `lua` in the shell
L275[03:48:29] <Mili​-Chan> it returned true
L276[03:49:09] <pay​onel> ok, what does your autorun program do?
L277[03:49:34] <CompanionCube> Izaya: tfw try to run shadowrun returns, get a bit derailed by the b0rked library loading logic it apparently uses so i have to google for some LD_LIBRAY_PATH stuff.
L278[03:49:51] <pay​onel> if you have an internet card, you can upload the file for us to review with a `pastebin` program
L279[03:50:14] <Mili​-Chan> prints the width and height of the screen using gpu.getResolution, as well as the energy stored in a vibrant capacitor bank using .getEnergyStored()
L280[03:50:23] <Mili​-Chan> oki, ill make that
L281[03:52:34] <pay​onel> it might be running and you're not seeing it
L282[03:52:43] <pay​onel> autorun programs can run before the shell is done loading
L283[03:53:13] <pay​onel> autorun programs make more sense for things you want to execute when someone inserts the drive to their computer
L284[03:53:21] <pay​onel> like, "do this when i insert this drive"
L285[03:53:36] <pay​onel> if you're trying to run a program, interactive, on boot-up, autorun seems an odd place to do that
L286[03:53:52] <pay​onel> if you want something to print to the shell when the shell loads, you add a shell start script
L287[03:53:59] <pay​onel> just like you would in real life
L288[03:54:07] <pay​onel> in real life, you'd add something to your .bashrc for example
L289[03:54:20] <pay​onel> in openos, i added .shrc - it holds the same concept
L290[03:54:27] <pay​onel> you can put shell commands in it
L291[03:54:59] <pay​onel> so, for example, if you have a lua program you want to run, at `/home/print-info.lua` then you could add `./print-info.lua` to the `/home/.shrc` file
L292[03:55:10] <pay​onel> `./` because the pwd when `.shrc` is run is `/home`
L293[03:56:49] <Mili​-Chan> at the moment im just trying to figure out the basics of opencomputers/lua, easiest way for me is to print a few values before moving onto anything complicated
L294[03:56:50] <Mili​-Chan> autorun was used on tutorial videos as the startup program
L295[03:56:50] <Mili​-Chan> http://pastbin.com/d1VHW514 - it gave me this but i cant access it in browser?
L296[03:57:44] <pay​onel> you forgot the 'e'
L297[03:57:55] <Mili​-Chan> ~~oh im dumb, sorry~~
L298[03:58:18] <pay​onel> i believe my explanation should resolve your confusion with autorun
L299[03:58:27] <Mili​-Chan> yeah
L300[03:58:32] <pay​onel> and if you wouldn't mind, feel free to link the tutorial
L301[04:04:54] <Mili​-Chan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Png4IRNYs5U
L302[04:04:55] <MichiBot> OpenComputers v1.1 Tutorial 4: File system (English) | length: 4m 13s | Likes: 108 Dislikes: 3 Views: 20,954 | by Mighty Pirates | Published On 1/2/2014
L303[04:05:13] <Mili​-Chan> its for an old version but theres not a lot of tutorials for oc out there
L304[04:05:41] <pay​onel> sheesh, yeah
L305[04:05:51] <pay​onel> this is why i need to do my let's play and tutorial series
L306[04:05:52] <pay​onel> 😦
L307[04:06:25] <pay​onel> ok, i watched the tutorial
L308[04:06:29] <pay​onel> it is agreeing with what i said
L309[04:06:58] <Michiyo> Well, waaaay back then that was valid, stuff has changed a lot since then lol
L310[04:06:59] <Mili​-Chan> yeah it makes sense, i didnt realize the computer boot & the terminal (shells) boot was at different times
L311[04:07:11] <pay​onel> he is using autorun for the floppy, so it runs when you insert the floppy
L312[04:07:34] <pay​onel> michiyo -- very true, but, i likely haven't broken anything referenced in that video 🙂
L313[04:07:57] <pay​onel> @Mili-Chan well boot is first, shell comes last
L314[04:07:58] <pay​onel> 🙂
L315[04:08:11] <pay​onel> autorun is dynamic, when a drive is detected
L316[04:09:13] <Izaya> ahhh
L317[04:09:21] <Izaya> 2 and a half hours of sunday riding
L318[04:09:23] <Izaya> good shit
L319[04:09:52] <pay​onel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDqXJzacdQQ&list=PLcZKee5-koAA0qqc3IoNvmci2pfEMBdfN
L320[04:09:53] <MichiBot> OpenComputers Mini Tutorial [ENGLISH] Setting up a computer [v1.5] | length: 9m 10s | Likes: 807 Dislikes: 24 Views: 78,332 | by Mighty Pirates | Published On 6/3/2016
L321[04:10:00] <pay​onel> @Mili-Chan ^
L322[04:10:11] <pay​onel> the 1.5 is the most recent
L323[04:10:26] <Mili​-Chan> i didst watch that one as well
L324[04:11:15] <pay​onel> the amazing part to me is how smooth his videos are, they are obviously scripted, but he doesn't mess up demonstrating and reading the script
L325[04:11:19] <pay​onel> i tried this, it took me hours
L326[04:11:36] <Izaya> plot twist
L327[04:11:43] <Izaya> the person doing the recording is running a script
L328[04:11:52] <pay​onel> haha
L329[04:11:59] <Izaya> they are in fact a robot/cyborg
L330[04:12:00] * Izaya nods
L331[04:12:00] <Mili​-Chan> yeah, i havent watched all of his tutorials but i love the way he does them
L332[04:13:46] <Ar​iri> Im actually watching them right now, coincidentally
L333[04:16:38] <Izaya> >service interval was 750km ago
L334[04:16:43] <Izaya> [external screaming]
L335[04:18:00] <Ar​iri> Amanda: You still up by chance?
L336[04:18:57] <Amanda> @ariri not exactly? Trying to get to sleep
L337[04:19:24] <Ar​iri> Could I bother you for a second? Sowwie
L338[04:19:59] <Amanda> I can try, but my laptop's asleep for the night
L339[04:20:37] <Ar​iri> Can you see why this https://paste.ee/p/jiDJY makes `[20:17:30] [Client thread/INFO] [minecraft/GuiNewChat]: [CHAT] ERROR: ironGearRing.zs:16 > No such member in crafttweaker.recipes.IRecipeManager: addShapless` on every add recipe line?
L340[04:20:42] <Ar​iri> Its only this script
L341[04:21:59] <Amanda> Shapeless not shapless
L342[04:22:31] <Ar​iri> ...
L343[04:22:36] <Ar​iri> Thanks
L344[04:22:55] <Ar​iri> facepalms
L345[04:23:12] <Amanda> Hahaha, no problem
L346[04:23:39] <Amanda> I was having trouble getting comfortable because of shit on my bed anyways
L347[04:23:58] <Amanda> Think I've got to cleared off now, so going to try and sleep again
L348[04:24:08] <Amanda> Night nerds
L349[04:24:28] <Mili​-Chan> slepp well
L350[04:24:55] <Ar​iri> Night night
L351[04:40:34] <Klea​dron> woah the font texture was so different
L352[04:40:54] <Klea​dron> and OpenOS ran on 64k of ram
L353[04:41:09] <Klea​dron> ngl i kinda like that font
L354[04:41:27] <Izaya> that's GNU Unifont IIRC
L355[04:41:38] <Izaya> I should convert SGI Screen for it
L356[04:43:24] <Klea​dron> i wonder if openos 1.0 runs on modern oc
L357[04:44:42] <Izaya> the new font has better unicode support IIRC
L358[04:45:56] <CompanionCube> Izaya: 'turn-based combat isn't my usual jig but i knew that going in and i'm not sure if i was terrible or not but it's not bad and the feeling of being bad at it will hopefully go away' my thoughts on a quick try of shadowrun returns after getting it working
L359[04:46:22] <Izaya> yeah it's not the easiest game
L360[04:46:30] <Izaya> but the systems are nice
L361[04:46:36] <Izaya> and being good at it isn't quite the point
L362[04:47:16] * CompanionCube just did the first fight since i meant to start earlier but the library thing got in the way
L363[04:49:19] * CompanionCube wanted to try it before refund period ended just-in-case but it seems that won't be an issue
L364[04:49:35] <CompanionCube> and bedrock will be useful if i ever want to try the editor hah
L365[04:50:42] <Klea​dron> the first ever commit to opencomputers master 1.6.4 was august 20th, 2013
L366[04:51:23] <Klea​dron> with first release 1.0 on december 14th, 2013
L367[04:54:18] <Klea​dron> nvm openos 1.0 seems too primitive
L368[05:00:22] <Ar​iri> Its a good thing chests dont emit radiation... https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/Ry5E8iewAHmzmBj/preview
L369[05:05:06] <Klea​dron> OpenOS 1.2 works fine it seems
L370[05:05:16] <Izaya> But at what cost?
L371[05:05:27] <pay​onel> - thanos
L372[05:05:55] <Izaya> who
L373[05:06:01] <Klea​dron> the cost? not having the newest libraries i guess
L374[05:06:12] <Klea​dron> and not starting in a home folder
L375[05:06:26] <Izaya> back then I think it expected to be running from ROM
L376[05:06:37] <pay​onel> there is not a concept of pipes, std io, well formatter buffers, horrible tty performance
L377[05:06:56] <Klea​dron> tty performance is always bad in my experience
L378[05:07:09] <pay​onel> bad in openos now?
L379[05:07:27] <Klea​dron> actually scratch that, every intraction i have with opencomputers feels laggy
L380[05:07:31] <pay​onel> oh, and <1.6 the tty was really bad with wide chars
L381[05:07:43] <pay​onel> that's not the same as printing to tty
L382[05:07:49] <Klea​dron> wide chars?
L383[05:08:05] <Izaya> w i d e chars
L384[05:08:08] <pay​onel> the lag is because every key hit has to go from client to server, processed, and the then another packet to client
L385[05:08:28] <pay​onel> wide chars like unicode(0x2200)
L386[05:08:32] <Klea​dron> this is why i miss 1.2.5 when client interactions were instant
L387[05:09:03] <pay​onel> how did they do that? was the text buffer not shared to all clients?
L388[05:09:11] <pay​onel> and you ran the lua state on client side?
L389[05:09:17] <Klea​dron> there was no internal server in 1.2.5 singleplayer
L390[05:09:22] <pay​onel> ah
L391[05:09:25] <Klea​dron> the lag would still exist in mp
L392[05:09:27] <pay​onel> you mean mc 1.2.5
L393[05:09:32] <pay​onel> not oc 1.2
L394[05:09:32] <Klea​dron> yes i meant that
L395[05:09:37] <Klea​dron> mc 1.2.5
L396[05:09:40] <Izaya> I don't miss that
L397[05:09:56] <Michiyo> I don't miss client/server versions of every mod.
L398[05:09:59] <Izaya> mods had to be written half-sepa- yeah
L399[05:10:01] <Michiyo> I don't miss writing code for that either.
L400[05:10:27] <Klea​dron> you get better development experience at the cost of my sanity
L401[05:10:36] <Izaya> man
L402[05:10:40] * CompanionCube whispers 'client-side non-persistent inventory'
L403[05:10:53] <Izaya> if I can play with OC and the server is on a different physical machine and it's fine
L404[05:11:01] <Izaya> iunno what your issue is tbh
L405[05:11:21] <CompanionCube> %give persister.jar
L406[05:11:21] * MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't find anything..."
L407[05:11:23] <Klea​dron> oh don't get me started on how laggy computer mods feel in general on mc servers
L408[05:11:32] <CompanionCube> %inv add persister.jar
L409[05:11:33] * MichiBot summons 'persister.jar' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L410[05:17:12] <Klea​dron> there was a mod for minecraft 1.3.2 and higher called SSP that removed the internal server but that makes it incompatible with a bunch of mods
L411[05:17:26] <Izaya> funny that
L412[05:17:55] <Klea​dron> to quote the description of it from the minecraft forum page
L413[05:17:57] <Klea​dron> "This mod restores singleplayer mode in Minecraft 1.3.2 and newer versions, allowing to play fast and smooth game again. It still supports all the new features, including commands and even LAN multiplayer. It also provides a button to play default mode with local server, for the mod compatibility. Also fixes particle rendering bug."
L414[05:18:02] <Klea​dron> https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/minecraft-mods/1275907-olddays-nbxlite-spawnhuman-ssp-sspc
L415[05:18:34] <Klea​dron> the download links are dead though
L416[05:19:49] <Izaya> all the links are dead
L417[05:19:58] <Michiyo> the github link isn't
L418[05:19:59] <Michiyo> https://github.com/Exalm/Minecraft-mods
L419[05:20:01] <Izaya> because dropbox broke the only way to use dropbox anyone cared about
L420[05:20:05] <Michiyo> looks like it might contain source for it all
L421[05:23:19] <Klea​dron> it does indeed have the source code
L422[05:23:30] <Klea​dron> and seems to have a built version of SSP 3.0
L423[05:29:33] <Klea​dron> it's a jarmod and it seems like it runs on 1.3.2 to 1.5.2
L424[05:29:38] <Klea​dron> and it's glorious
L425[05:33:00] <Klea​dron> i think i want to mess with 1.2.5 modding if i ever figure that out
L426[05:33:16] <Izaya> https://assets.merveilles.town/media_attachments/files/000/852/844/original/e8f82a4ccddd9adb.jpg
L427[05:33:37] <Klea​dron> wasn't there something about that cat?
L428[05:34:29] <Klea​dron> like i forgot if it was some sort of prop or a real cat
L429[05:39:08] <Mili​-Chan> is what i draw on the screens flickering just going to be part of my life?
L430[05:39:09] <Mili​-Chan> i have a clear function (set background color and fills screen with " ")
L431[05:39:09] <Mili​-Chan> and even if i call it the line before drawing a rectangle, said rectangle still flickers every little bit. it gets worse if i move them farther apart
L432[05:40:40] <Izaya> there's nonzero time between clearing and drawing again
L433[05:41:04] <Izaya> draw over the top and clean up the mess
L434[05:42:19] <Klea​dron> i may out of spite start modding for beta 1.7.3 with minecraft forge if i get bored enough
L435[05:42:27] <Mili​-Chan> thats... actually genius
L436[05:42:30] <Mili​-Chan> thank you izaya
L437[05:42:49] <Izaya> now I have cursed you with actually implementing the thing
L438[05:42:51] <Izaya> have fun
L439[05:43:26] <Mili​-Chan> because of the way i wrote it, atleast what i have now, literally all i have to do is move the clear function out of the while loop lmao
L440[05:45:16] <Mili​-Chan> ~~and finished, thanksagain hehe~~
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L442[05:46:55] <Klea​dron> ~~who wants to make a computer mod for mc b1.7.3~~
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L444[05:51:41] <Ocawes​ome101> @Kleadron how did you download only OpenOS 1.2 and not the entire source?
L445[05:52:22] <Klea​dron> i decided to just go through curseforge history to the first 1.6.4 version and take OpenOS out of it
L446[05:52:34] <Ocawes​ome101> lol nice
L447[05:53:22] <Izaya> why not just clone the repo and step back to the commit that was 1.2
L448[05:53:33] <Klea​dron> why would i do that
L449[05:53:46] <Izaya> because having the OC source around is convenient
L450[05:53:59] <Ocawes​ome101> hmm
L451[05:54:02] <Ocawes​ome101> I found v1.3
L452[05:54:04] <Izaya> I've never built it but I have local copies of all the Lua shipped with the mod, as well as the manual
L453[05:54:06] <Ocawes​ome101> but not 1.2
L454[05:54:28] <Klea​dron> i built it once because i wanted to see if it was actually true that it builds on 1.7.10
L455[05:54:42] <Klea​dron> and then yoinked the build stuff
L456[05:55:15] <Klea​dron> hmm i'm actually kinda motivated to learn how to mod for beta 1.7.3 so i could make my own version of a computer mod, but i know i will never finish it
L457[05:55:19] <Izaya> OH
L458[05:55:23] <Izaya> I just realised where my laptop is
L459[05:55:28] <Izaya> it's been in my bag for the last 4 days
L460[05:55:32] <Ocawes​ome101> lmao nice
L461[05:55:44] <Klea​dron> very cool
L462[05:55:45] <Izaya> excuse me while I brainlet harder
L463[05:56:26] <Izaya> in other news I documented libmtar https://git.shadowkat.net/izaya/OC-misc/src/branch/master/mtar/#user-content-libmtar
L464[05:56:51] <Ocawes​ome101> I can't even find OpenOS 1.0
L465[05:57:15] <Klea​dron> you could try to find it from the first release of openos on github
L466[05:57:33] <Klea​dron> i looked at the first commit and i noticed that the mod icon was a modified computercraft icon
L467[05:57:44] <Klea​dron> which must have been a very early version
L468[05:57:51] <Ocawes​ome101> buce
L469[05:59:39] <Ocawes​ome101> nice* http://tinyurl.com/yaxs2kzz
L470[06:02:15] <Klea​dron> oh
L471[06:02:33] <Klea​dron> i discovered why the card slot icon for the relay looked like a redstone card
L472[06:03:20] <Klea​dron> http://tinyurl.com/yc5qsxfa
L473[06:03:26] <Klea​dron> this is the original card icon
L474[06:03:35] <Ocawes​ome101> is there a quick way to get the oldest commit in a github repo?
L475[06:04:03] <Klea​dron> ok no i'm a dumbass
L476[06:04:22] <Klea​dron> the icon just represents a pci card
L477[06:04:26] <Klea​dron> nothing special
L478[06:05:03] <Klea​dron> @Ocawesome101 i don't know but here's where the oldest commit is https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/commit/61f53b9955dae933a0883c92255439c24142a22d
L479[06:05:11] <Ocawes​ome101> aha, thank you
L480[06:06:07] <pay​onel> http://tinyurl.com/ycnfhe69
L481[06:06:37] <pay​onel> hmm i was hoping that'd play inside of discord
L482[06:06:45] <pay​onel> is there a file format discord will autoplay?
L483[06:06:56] <Klea​dron> .gif
L484[06:07:06] <pay​onel> gif is horrible inefficient for size
L485[06:07:16] <Forec​aster> it only embeds videos linked from http
L486[06:07:19] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> mp4 and webm i think
L487[06:07:37] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> webms can be uploaded last i checked
L488[06:07:41] <Klea​dron> you said autoplay and that's the only format that autoplays in discord as far as i kno
L489[06:07:45] <Klea​dron> know*
L490[06:08:11] <hilari​ousppp> i'm pretty sure mp4's work uploaded as well
L491[06:09:11] <Ocawes​ome101> hold on
L492[06:09:18] <Ocawes​ome101> was OpenOS originally called Pluto??
L493[06:10:01] <Klea​dron> there's a pluto.dll but i don't think that's openos?
L494[06:10:28] <Ocawes​ome101> oh
L495[06:10:36] <Klea​dron> oh, there is a pluto lua file, maybe its a library
L496[06:10:51] <Ocawes​ome101> that's what I was looking at
L497[06:10:59] <Ocawes​ome101> that shit doesn't even look like an OS
L498[06:11:17] <Klea​dron> keep in mind this was before the first release
L499[06:11:23] <Ocawes​ome101> right
L500[06:11:25] <Klea​dron> there isn't even textures for the blocks yet
L501[06:11:28] <Ocawes​ome101> ima try 1.1.0pre4
L502[06:11:57] <pay​onel> ok let's try this
L503[06:11:58] <pay​onel> https://i.imgur.com/6DVOKBU.gifv
L504[06:12:00] <pay​onel> yes!
L505[06:12:10] <pay​onel> ok everyone, enjoy a short vid of my latest little feature ^
L506[06:13:05] <Klea​dron> very nice
L507[06:13:09] <Ocawes​ome101> holy c o w
L508[06:13:15] <Ocawes​ome101> OpenOS was..... basic
L509[06:13:40] <Klea​dron> the first github release has 1.0.0
L510[06:13:48] <Klea​dron> which i have in a 1.6.4 instance
L511[06:14:30] <Klea​dron> i noticed the pre 1.0 textures from super early had more noticable gradients on them
L512[06:15:25] <Klea​dron> and the memory told you how much it had in kilobytes http://tinyurl.com/y9cj4qec
L513[06:15:29] <Ocawes​ome101> nice
L514[06:15:35] <Klea​dron> i wonder why that was removed
L515[06:19:34] <Izaya> because it isn't uniform across architectures
L516[06:20:13] <Klea​dron> include it in the detailed tooltip then?
L517[06:20:32] <Klea​dron> a list of all ram sizes for all architectures
L518[06:21:08] <Izaya> that would require the architectures to report the RAM sizes
L519[06:21:17] <Klea​dron> yea
L520[06:21:23] <Izaya> I mean, I'm not disagreeing
L521[06:21:31] <Izaya> it's just that not showing the RAM sizes was the simplest solution
L522[06:21:46] <Klea​dron> also sounds like the most inconvenient solution
L523[06:21:54] <Izaya> currently importing 350M of SQL dump
L524[06:22:26] <Klea​dron> @Ocawesome101 we must compress openos 1.0 to run in an eeprom like how it used to run on rom
L525[06:23:24] <Ocawes​ome101> lol
L526[06:23:33] <Ocawes​ome101> I'm trying to make it run on top of existing OpenOS
L527[06:29:27] <Klea​dron> i'm gonna design textures now because i feel like it
L528[06:29:56] <Klea​dron> actually, that depends on how i would want the computers to be set up
L529[06:31:31] <Mili​-Chan> is there any way to increase text size? im looking through the documentation n stuff and i cant seem to find anything
L530[06:31:54] <Ocawes​ome101> lowering the screen resolution has the same visual effect
L531[06:33:21] <Mili​-Chan> oki, i twas hoping i wouldnt have to but the text is to smol
L532[06:33:44] <Forec​aster> the text size is the resolution, so
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L534[06:34:14] <Izaya> actually
L535[06:34:16] <Izaya> GUI scale
L536[06:34:22] <Izaya> in the graphics settings
L537[06:34:25] <Izaya> I like to use Auto
L538[06:34:34] <Izaya> and then use 80x25 displays
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L541[06:34:41] <Izaya> bigge pixels
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L545[06:49:33] <Klea​dron> you know what, i was thinking of making a mod for mc 1.2.5 but i noticed there's not really any computer mods for beta 1.7.3
L546[06:53:38] <Ocawes​ome101> something I noticed - @payonel running `component.proxy(component.list("componentname")())` works in ocvm but is broken in game, at least in build 192
L547[06:54:50] <pay​onel> works for me :/
L548[06:55:06] <Ocawes​ome101> weird
L549[06:55:15] <Ocawes​ome101> I'll try again with a more recent build tomorrow
L550[06:55:26] <pay​onel> nothing in that area has changed
L551[06:55:30] <pay​onel> it would have nothing to do with the build
L552[06:55:35] <Ocawes​ome101> huh
L553[06:55:36] <Klea​dron> i was doing that for my system and it was working fine
L554[06:55:52] <Ocawes​ome101> it has failed for me time and time again
L555[06:56:50] <pay​onel> what does `component.list(comp_name)()` return?
L556[06:57:12] <Ocawes​ome101> idk, I unfortunately can't test right now
L557[06:57:40] <Ocawes​ome101> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/yuqiseyaxi
L558[06:57:40] <Ocawes​ome101> works every time
L559[06:57:59] <pay​onel> then you are clearly doing something wrong in the other case
L560[06:58:04] <Ocawes​ome101> probably
L561[06:58:10] <pay​onel> because syntactically those two things are equivalent
L562[06:58:19] <Ocawes​ome101> that's exactly what confuses me
L563[06:58:43] <Ocawes​ome101> the error has been `bad argument #1 (string expected, got nil)` or some such thing iirc
L564[06:59:06] <pay​onel> then that means the `'name'` you are looking for is not found
L565[06:59:11] <Ocawes​ome101> probably
L566[06:59:15] <pay​onel> the iterator will return nil when there is no match
L567[06:59:27] <Ocawes​ome101> though, I was doing it with `gpu` and `screen` so I really have no idea why
L568[06:59:39] <Ocawes​ome101> yes, I had a gpu and screen hooked to the computer
L569[07:00:34] <Ocawes​ome101> also jfc openos 1.0 does not want to work for me lol
L570[07:02:25] <Klea​dron> yeah i tried loading it through openos
L571[07:02:32] <Klea​dron> it didin't want to work
L572[07:02:47] <Klea​dron> presumably because it assumes all the libraries are there
L573[07:02:54] <Ocawes​ome101> I'm trying to bodge it into bare-metal
L574[07:03:13] <Ocawes​ome101> just running kernel.lua as machine.lua didn't work
L575[07:05:34] <Ocawes​ome101> I GOT IT WORKING
L576[07:05:36] <Ocawes​ome101> YEET
L577[07:05:46] <Ocawes​ome101> http://tinyurl.com/y7lax2ea
L578[07:06:18] <Klea​dron> oh shiest
L579[07:06:29] <Izaya> and here I was thinking PsychOS was cursed
L580[07:06:32] <Ocawes​ome101> lmao
L581[07:06:43] <Ocawes​ome101> this is on fully modern OC, only slightly modified
L582[07:06:52] <Ocawes​ome101> well, technically, ocvm, but that shouldn't matter
L583[07:07:14] <Izaya> not sure they use the same machine.lua but \o/
L584[07:07:28] <Klea​dron> i dont think they do
L585[07:07:41] <Izaya> did you guys see my neat thing
L586[07:08:01] <Izaya> I abused grafana into reading from my pleroma db to see how many posts are made every n time
L587[07:08:03] <Klea​dron> i don't think i did, what is it
L588[07:08:05] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/decfb26f68bf671c2cd9646e0946970c0172541a02a52094a8d978b393a1c3c5.png
L589[07:08:05] <Klea​dron> oh
L590[07:09:10] <Klea​dron> "neat"
L591[07:10:22] <Izaya> thank you for validating my bullshit
L592[07:11:18] <Klea​dron> lol
L593[07:14:08] <Ocawes​ome101> if you want to try it out: https://github.com/ocawesome101/openos-1.0
L594[07:14:39] <Klea​dron> did you test all the commands
L595[07:15:22] <Ocawes​ome101> not quite
L596[07:15:33] <Klea​dron> made textures because i felt like it http://tinyurl.com/ycmbmw7m
L597[07:15:39] <Klea​dron> "CPU" is placeholder
L598[07:15:42] <Ocawes​ome101> nice
L599[07:16:54] <Klea​dron> god this would be cursed
L600[07:17:37] <Klea​dron> i'm trying to decide how much inspiration i want to take from OC and CC for this, and i don't want it to be exactly like one or the other
L601[07:18:33] <Klea​dron> i also don't want it to get too ridiculous
L602[07:18:45] <ThePi​Guy24> CC texture pack for OC :p
L603[07:19:15] <Klea​dron> i'm making concept textures for a mod i might try to make and then fail to make
L604[07:19:25] <Klea​dron> cc texture pack for oc would be cursed as hell
L605[07:19:30] <Klea​dron> make it
L606[07:22:31] <Ocawes​ome101> well the http api most certainly won't work lmao
L607[07:22:34] <Ocawes​ome101> uses the internet component
L608[07:22:39] <Ocawes​ome101> modem*
L609[07:29:05] <Ocawes​ome101> interesting
L610[07:29:15] <Ocawes​ome101> OpenOS 1.0 is about as heavy as Open Kernel 1.0
L611[07:29:31] <pay​onel> define 'heavy'
L612[07:29:46] <Ocawes​ome101> they both use ~80k of mem on boot
L613[07:29:52] <Ocawes​ome101> with 192k total
L614[07:30:24] <Klea​dron> how the hell did it run with 64kb of ram then
L615[07:30:28] <Ocawes​ome101> no idea
L616[07:30:40] <Ocawes​ome101> ocvm's memory usage seems slightly high though, so....
L617[07:31:26] <pay​onel> i've not tested this myself, but you might get closer mem values in ocvm if you built it against eris
L618[07:31:46] <Ocawes​ome101> how would I do that?
L619[07:32:01] <pay​onel> clone eris, build, and link ocvm to it instead of lua
L620[07:32:11] <Ocawes​ome101> hm
L621[07:32:23] <pay​onel> `make luapath=../eris/`
L622[07:32:54] <Ocawes​ome101> iirc when I tried to build eris gradle was dumb and broke it, but I think I was trying to build the entire native lib then
L623[07:33:04] <Ocawes​ome101> %s/eris/eris last/
L624[07:33:04] <MichiBot> <Ocawesome101> iirc when I tried to build eris last gradle was dumb and broke it, but I think I was trying to build the entire native lib then
L625[07:33:19] <Ocawes​ome101> anyway ima go to bed now
L626[07:33:20] <Ocawes​ome101> gn
L627[07:33:21] <Ocawes​ome101> all
L628[07:33:55] <Klea​dron> http://tinyurl.com/yczzfkdx
L629[07:34:03] <Klea​dron> gn
L630[07:34:05] <Ocawes​ome101> nice
L631[07:34:12] <Ocawes​ome101> that in ocvm?
L632[07:34:16] <Klea​dron> no
L633[07:34:18] <Klea​dron> in minecraft
L634[07:34:20] <Ocawes​ome101> oh
L635[07:34:22] <Ocawes​ome101> ok
L636[07:34:23] <Klea​dron> 1.6.4
L637[07:34:27] <Ocawes​ome101> ah
L638[07:34:28] <Klea​dron> mc 1.6.4 [Edited]
L639[07:34:38] <Klea​dron> and opencomputers 1.0, it's pretty cool
L640[07:34:41] <Ocawes​ome101> I'll test in-game with 64k tomorrow
L641[07:34:55] <Klea​dron> it's interesting seeing earlier versions of mods and how they have changed
L642[07:35:22] <Klea​dron> tbh i like the softer font better and i wonder if there's a way to get it back, i think there is?
L643[07:35:28] <Ocawes​ome101> yeah
L644[07:35:32] <Ocawes​ome101> in the config
L645[07:35:41] <Ocawes​ome101> though you lose most unicode support
L646[07:35:55] <Klea​dron> is the unicode support a matter of the font texture?
L647[07:35:58] <Ocawes​ome101> no
L648[07:36:13] <Ocawes​ome101> it's a matter of font.hex supporting more unicode than just codepage 437
L649[07:36:19] <Ocawes​ome101> iirc, poke payonel for details
L650[07:36:25] <Klea​dron> ok then
L651[07:39:41] <Klea​dron> oh unicode page 437 is fine it seems, wikipedia says this is it http://tinyurl.com/y7nop2vg
L652[07:40:17] <pay​onel> ive not tried switching to the old font renderer
L653[07:40:34] <Klea​dron> i get to see if it breaks everything then
L654[07:40:35] <Klea​dron> :D
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L656[07:43:14] <Klea​dron> the old font renderer works fine it seems http://tinyurl.com/y7qspbeh
L657[07:45:11] <Klea​dron> oh dear lord http://tinyurl.com/ya3ntota
L658[07:49:56] <Klea​dron> *it works fine if you don't use missing characters as mentioned
L659[07:51:11] <Klea​dron> config says the old font renderer is slower, is this because of transparency?
L660[07:51:29] <Klea​dron> like, instead of using cutout
L661[07:51:37] <Klea​dron> or whatever it's called for rendering textures
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L663[07:56:45] <finch> test
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L665[07:57:05] <Ariri> still need to config this i suppose
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L667[08:09:23] * Inari yawns
L668[08:09:35] <Inari> I hate when I don't get enough sleep, but wake up and don't feel like sleeping more :P
L669[08:09:56] <Inari> Amanda: haha
L670[08:11:03] <Forec​aster> that tends to be how sleep works
L671[08:11:05] <Forec​aster> %sip
L672[08:11:05] <MichiBot> You drink a mutable orange potion (New!). Forec​aster turns into a crimson sloth until their next sip of water.
L673[08:11:12] <Forec​aster> ack
L674[08:11:15] <Inari> :p
L675[08:11:44] <Inari> %splash @Forecaster with liquid aqua potion
L676[08:11:45] <MichiBot> You fling a liquid aqua potion (New!) that splashes onto @Forecaster. @Forecaster's radiation level goes up by 2 until the next time they hug someone.
L677[08:12:16] <Forec​aster> great, now I'm a radioactive crimson sloth
L678[08:12:38] <Inari> Well you should've drunk from the water!
L679[08:13:11] <Inari> How's Railcraft season 2 coming along? :o
L680[08:13:36] <Forec​aster> on hold while I procrastinate I mean work on MP2
L681[08:13:52] <Inari> Sad times
L682[08:14:28] <Forec​aster> well no one wanted to help me test anyway, so
L683[08:15:38] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/T4m1V1f.png
L684[08:16:51] <Izaya> this is just unfair
L685[08:16:53] <Izaya> to everyone else
L686[08:17:12] <Inari> I would've wanted to help you test
L687[08:17:12] <Inari> :p
L688[08:18:07] <Forec​aster> you probably weren't here when I asked I guess
L689[08:18:10] <Forec​aster> Izaya what is that
L690[08:18:15] <Inari> Probably
L691[08:18:18] <Inari> I hate MC keybindings
L692[08:20:13] <Izaya> Stellaris
L693[08:20:25] <Izaya> Specifically, the galactic senate
L694[08:20:35] <Izaya> I am the only empire voting for.
L695[08:23:20] <Forec​aster> I feel what I need to do is get MP2 operational, then make an announcement video, and in that announce my need for a handful of testers for a small scale test over a week or something like that
L696[08:23:29] <Forec​aster> that'll probably get me the testers I need
L697[08:23:36] <Inari> Whats MP2?
L698[08:23:50] <Forec​aster> ModPacker 2
L699[08:23:54] <Inari> Ah
L700[08:27:41] <Forec​aster> 1.6 mil per ton is really good http://tinyurl.com/ybque4te
L701[08:29:25] <Forec​aster> I'm at 2.9 bil credits :D
L702[08:29:29] <Forec​aster> getting closer
L703[08:29:38] <Forec​aster> I think I can make 5 within 9 days
L704[08:29:40] <Inari> Getting a fleet carrier?
L705[08:30:06] <Forec​aster> yeh
L706[08:30:10] <Inari> Did they have that big announcement yet they watned to make in 2020?
L707[08:30:18] <Inari> Nice
L708[08:30:23] <Forec​aster> what announcement?
L709[08:30:28] <Inari> I hear they're a bit better after the community disliked the original offering
L710[08:30:43] <Inari> Not sure, just heard obsidian ant or so mention it in a vidoe
L711[08:30:55] <Forec​aster> they've tweaked the costs during the beta from feedback yeah
L712[08:31:02] <Forec​aster> the weekly cost got reduced a bit
L713[08:31:10] <Forec​aster> that's what the betas were for
L714[08:31:16] <Inari> Hm guess it migth've bene delayed
L715[08:31:25] <Inari> https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-05-01-elite-dangerous-major-next-era-update-has-been-delayed-into-2021
L716[08:31:35] <Forec​aster> all I know is that they've said the next update after this will be the biggest yet
L717[08:31:46] <Forec​aster> and they haven't announced anything about it yet
L718[08:32:12] <Inari> I'm just sad they didnt' implement support ships for carriers
L719[08:32:16] <Inari> That was the feature that souned really interesting
L720[08:32:24] <Forec​aster> it'll be a paid update I think they said
L721[08:32:39] <Inari> I believe I get paid updates for free
L722[08:32:41] <Forec​aster> well that was basically instead of the carrier modules
L723[08:33:09] <Forec​aster> I know I do, I have the ultimate super season pass they sold briefly
L724[08:33:27] <Inari> I do beause I bought the super pass thing in beta or so
L725[08:34:11] <Inari> I wish I had VR and a good HOTAS, sounds like it feel very different playing it in VR
L726[08:34:47] <Forec​aster> I imagine it's super immersive in VR
L727[08:35:02] <Inari> Esp. with flight assist off
L728[08:35:04] * Inari shudders
L729[08:35:12] <Michiyo> E:D?
L730[08:35:14] <Inari> I tried docking without flight assist and then had bad dreams from that
L731[08:35:16] <Michiyo> It's amazing in VR.
L732[08:35:48] <Forec​aster> I never fly without flight assist
L733[08:35:48] <Michiyo> I need to get more used to my HOTAS before I can really enjoy it though..
L734[08:36:08] <Forec​aster> and I let the docking computer land when I can
L735[08:36:18] <Forec​aster> although I can't fit one on this mining python
L736[08:36:29] <Michiyo> But yeah.. looking around the cockpit is super cool
L737[08:36:32] <Inari> I find the docking computer too slow
L738[08:36:35] <Inari> So I do it myself
L739[08:36:47] <Forec​aster> I fly into the station myself
L740[08:36:51] <Forec​aster> then let the computer land
L741[08:36:56] <Inari> Hmm I see
L742[08:36:58] <Inari> Never tried that
L743[08:37:07] <Inari> Though one of the great joys is trying to get an airplane landing right :D
L744[08:37:19] <Forec​aster> because it's super slow entering the station (and in a type 9 it bumps into the mail slot)
L745[08:37:29] <Inari> The docking computer just does the boring adjust then use trhusters down
L746[08:37:35] <Forec​aster> but it's much faster at finding the pad and orienting the ship right than me
L747[08:38:22] <Forec​aster> the issue is that I'm so good at landing perfectly now that it's boring
L748[08:38:53] <Forec​aster> which makes me not want to do it unless I have to
L749[08:39:31] <Michiyo> damn it.. You're making me want to clean my desk off and set my stick and VR back up
L750[08:39:56] <Inari> I guess
L751[08:40:02] <Forec​aster> also I have a HOTAS, but I just play with an xbox controller now because it's quick to just pick up and play
L752[08:40:03] <Inari> I never got that good at airplane landing, esp. with big ships
L753[08:40:20] <Inari> I still want a fed corvette
L754[08:40:32] <Michiyo> https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/space/x52-space-flight-simulator-controller.945-000025.html
L755[08:40:42] <Forec​aster> I have a corvette
L756[08:40:45] <Forec​aster> it's awesome
L757[08:40:58] <Forec​aster> I use it as an all-round ship
L758[08:41:03] <Forec​aster> there's so much space in it
L759[08:41:07] <Inari> I got a dropship currently and it's kinda ehhhhh
L760[08:41:16] <Forec​aster> and it handles like a dream for being so big
L761[08:41:50] <Forec​aster> the anaconda is like flying a brick house by comparison
L762[08:42:09] <Inari> I'm terrible at combat either way though :D
L763[08:42:56] <Forec​aster> same
L764[08:43:18] <Forec​aster> well, against players at least probably
L765[08:43:23] <Inari> And you still like it? May have to stop being lazy and get one then
L766[08:43:24] <Forec​aster> I can handle npc's
L767[08:43:27] <Inari> Ah :p
L768[08:43:30] <Inari> I'm bad even with NPCs
L769[08:43:39] <Forec​aster> I don't really fight a lot
L770[08:43:43] <Forec​aster> it's not very profitable
L771[08:43:48] <Inari> Unfortunately
L772[08:43:56] <Inari> Mining seems to be about the only thing thats good at being profitable
L773[08:44:07] <Forec​aster> but I can take it to a nav beacon and shoot at npc's and it's usually fine
L774[08:45:50] <Inari> I miss half my railgun shots
L775[08:45:51] <Inari> :D
L776[08:46:09] <Forec​aster> I don't use railguns anymore
L777[08:46:11] <Michiyo> Wow.. I've not played E:D since July 2019 o_O
L778[08:46:45] <Inari> I just find railguns are like the only weapon that actually feels like it does something and gives me some feedback on whats it doing
L779[08:47:09] <Forec​aster> it has two 4A multicannons and a 3C beam laser
L780[08:47:12] <Izaya> I like plasma accelerators
L781[08:47:15] <Forec​aster> and a bunch of laser turrets
L782[08:47:16] <Forec​aster> https://inara.cz/cmdr-fleet/45281/1640127/
L783[08:47:49] <Inari> all the other guns don't ever feel like they do much or give me any feedback on if theyhit, and how well they hit or such
L784[08:47:56] <Inari> except missiles I guess
L785[08:48:06] <Inari> But then I get 4 missiles and they feel like they don't do anything either
L786[08:48:51] <Forec​aster> what do you mean
L787[08:48:58] <Forec​aster> it's very easy to tell if you're hitting or not
L788[08:49:26] <Forec​aster> if their shield is flashing you're hitting, and if the bars are fading you're doing damage
L789[08:49:39] <SquidDev> %tonkout
L790[08:49:40] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Squi​dDev! You beat Li​zzy's previous record of 1 minute and 6 seconds (By 10 hours, 5 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L791[08:49:41] <MichiBot> Squi​dDev has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.01 tonk points! plus 0.009 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.8364. Position #3 => #2 Need 0.00642 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L792[08:49:42] <Forec​aster> then you just keep doing that until their shields go down, then take em out
L793[08:49:52] <Forec​aster> if you can't take down their shields then you're in trouble
L794[08:50:20] <Inari> Well I tend to fly at them with e.g. minigun shooting, but then pass them and nothing much seems to have happened to them. So either I'm not hitting, or it's hitting but not doing damage
L795[08:50:29] <Inari> Which may or may not be because of the limited ranges and such
L796[08:50:36] <Inari> Who knows, not like it has a combat log :p
L797[08:51:20] <Forec​aster> again, the little hologram shows if your shots are connecting
L798[08:52:37] <Inari> I tend to be too busy trying to fly to pay attention to that in the moment. But I think I saw some shots connect. But still, I don't know the ratio of connected vs missed shots that way really. Or how much damage each shot did
L799[08:52:58] <Forec​aster> neither do I
L800[08:53:09] <Forec​aster> all I know is that you keep shooting until you take the shield down
L801[08:53:16] <Inari> Just feels like the weapons never do any damage so I use railguns, which seem to do damage
L802[08:53:23] <Forec​aster> also, if you can't fly and shoot at the same time get turrets
L803[08:54:00] <Inari> I mean, I do fly and shoot, I mean like, I'm too busy trying to not let them pass me and stuff like that to pay attention to everything
L804[08:54:29] <Inari> Turrets are okay I guess, but ultimately boring, I prefer doing something than just letting the turrets do
L805[08:55:32] <Forec​aster> I have both
L806[08:55:51] <Forec​aster> the turrets are great for smaller things that like to outmaneuver me
L807[08:56:30] <Inari> Maybe thats just my issue partially
L808[08:56:40] <Inari> The dropship doesn't feel exactly great at maneuvering
L809[08:56:45] <Forec​aster> I also have a fighter bay obviously
L810[08:59:41] <Inari> Spend ages making a AE2 grindstone to ore double
L811[08:59:47] <Inari> Only to find out it's not guaranteed doubling
L812[08:59:57] <Inari> Then find out that the manufactury I already made can do it, guaranteed
L813[08:59:58] <Inari> ¬_¬
L814[09:00:38] <Forec​aster> haha
L815[09:01:38] <Inari> Why is there a "password protected furnace"
L816[09:01:52] <Forec​aster> to keep the ores from escaping
L817[09:02:58] <Forec​aster> I hope the next update includes more ground content
L818[09:03:16] <Inari> I want space legs and atmospehric flight
L819[09:03:37] <Forec​aster> I'm sure you do
L820[09:03:47] <Forec​aster> I doubt that'll be this update though
L821[09:03:52] <Inari> Probably not :p
L822[09:04:14] <Inari> I also want cool atmospheric flight, but I doubt that'll happen
L823[09:07:04] <Forec​aster> which means what
L824[09:07:26] <Inari> Like with weather, storms that infleunce flight mechanics (and lightning strikes!), populated planets, maybe even caves you can fly into, rivers, etc
L825[09:08:56] <Forec​aster> well, the fact that they haven't just used the non-amospheric system might imply that they want to do those things as well
L826[09:10:46] <Inari> Maybe
L827[09:12:28] <Forec​aster> although I'm not sure about "flight mechanics" because a lot of ships don't have wings
L828[09:15:27] <Inari> Maybe someday they'll even make limpets not dumb
L829[09:16:00] <Forec​aster> I wish they'd make the pathing better and make them slower
L830[09:16:30] <Forec​aster> their two main issues are that they're too fast, they sometimes smash into things and destroy themselves, and they're not very good at pathfinding
L831[09:16:30] <Inari> Why slower
L832[09:16:37] <Inari> Ah
L833[09:16:54] <Forec​aster> and they also take stupid extraneous paths around your ship
L834[09:17:08] <Forec​aster> going to a point far below it instead of directly to the cargo hatch
L835[09:17:11] <Forec​aster> for some reason
L836[09:17:24] <Inari> I think at some point i managed to get one to continously smash against my ship
L837[09:17:33] <Inari> Like
L838[09:17:36] <Inari> 4 times a second
L839[09:17:37] <Inari> orso
L840[09:20:12] <Forec​aster> also mining is supper buggy and strange in a lot of areas right now
L841[09:20:15] <Forec​aster> and I hate it
L842[09:20:57] <Forec​aster> prospector limpets sometimes just fly through asteroids, sometimes they attach to the opposite side where they exit it, sometimes they just continue out the other side and get out of range
L843[09:21:50] <Forec​aster> deep core mining is super unreliable because even if you get the bar within the optimal area, once it detonates it shoots up into the excessive area and you get less yield
L844[09:21:55] <Forec​aster> and there's nothing you can do
L845[09:22:27] <Forec​aster> and the pulse wave scanner is dumb, I have no idea what the difference is between the intensity and color of the asteroids
L846[09:22:40] <Forec​aster> it seems to highlight them at random
L847[09:23:08] <Forec​aster> I just fired a prospector at an asteroid that wasn't highlighted at all by the pulse wave
L848[09:23:17] <Forec​aster> `Material content: Medium`
L849[09:23:45] <Forec​aster> `Low Temperature Diamonds: 10.45%`
L850[09:23:48] <Forec​aster> :|
L851[09:24:04] <Forec​aster> that is pretty good, why didn't it highlight this rock
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L855[10:15:45] <Ko​dos> Pulse wave is for core mining no?
L856[10:16:51] <Forec​aster> then it's even worse isn't it
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L860[10:46:51] <Ko​dos> I've never had issues with it personally
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L865[10:57:43] <Forec​aster> the issue is that it's not consistant
L866[10:57:49] <Forec​aster> the issue is that it's not consistent [Edited]
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L869[11:25:20] <Inari> It's fairly consistent for me
L870[11:32:11] <Forec​aster> by which you mean you prospect a highlighted asteroid and it has ore in it
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L872[12:15:24] <Ko​dos> It's more of a combination of analyzing until you find one that glows black, check for pop corn shape. Then either prospect to check for core ore or look for fissures with your C1 eyeballs and then prospect a rock that has them
L873[12:15:45] <Ko​dos> The latter saving you limpets
L874[12:19:14] <Forec​aster> I know how to find cores
L875[12:19:20] <Forec​aster> not what I'm talking about at all
L876[12:31:56] <Forec​aster> oh I see, it's detecting sub-surface deposits and cores
L877[12:32:40] <Forec​aster> non-highligted asteroids can have surface deposits and traces still
L878[12:33:23] <Kristo​pher38> Either I'm dumb or I was doing something wrong, it always took me ages to find an asteroid with a deep core
L879[12:33:57] <Kristo​pher38> I've had A rated scanner to be clear
L880[12:34:25] <Forec​aster> they have a very specific shape that you learn to recognize eventually
L881[12:34:46] <Forec​aster> and visible cracks on the surface which you can learn to spot as well
L882[12:37:13] <Forec​aster> because not all rocks with the shape have cores, but all the ones that do have the shape
L883[12:51:46] <Ko​dos> Youre welcome lol
L884[12:55:13] <Forec​aster> yes thanks for not telling me anything I didn't already know
L885[13:06:36] <Amanda> You've done it! You've saved science!
L886[13:06:46] <Ar​iri> there’s also certain hues when you’re at certain ranges, iirc when you’re a bit farther ltds will be a fuzzy black and clear up on approach
L887[13:09:53] <Forec​aster> given how glitchy the overlay is I wouldn't be surprised if that's a graphical glitch
L888[13:11:02] <Ar​iri> nah i think that’s part of it, it’s lasted a while and is fairly consistent in that, like 8/10
L889[13:11:28] <Ar​iri> anyways, time to start on a coding spree with oc emu
L890[13:12:24] <Ar​iri> oh, i was talking about for cores, i didn’t scroll up all the way
L891[13:13:02] <Forec​aster> so was that comment
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L893[13:18:13] <Ar​iri> https://youtu.be/5esd-dvVeFk
L894[13:18:13] <Ar​iri> If you haven’t seen already
L895[13:18:13] <MichiBot> The Ultimate Deep Core Mining Guide | length: 6m 48s | Likes: 2,506 Dislikes: 37 Views: 101,363 | by EDTutorials by Exigeous | Published On 6/5/2019
L896[13:18:34] <Forec​aster> like I said I already know how to find cores
L897[13:19:58] <Ar​iri> i’m referring to the “color and intensity” part
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L900[13:28:56] <Forec​aster> %sip
L901[13:28:57] <MichiBot> You drink a smooth spice potion (New!). Forec​aster is now Borg until they see a unicorn.
L902[13:29:02] <Forec​aster> dangit
L903[13:31:12] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: Make an offering to the stain gods
L904[13:37:52] <Inari> Does Advanced Rocketry have an endgame purpose? Like, you can go to toher planets and build a station, but is there a reason to do so? You can get ore, but you can also get ore in the normal world
L905[13:44:46] <Elfi> A safe place to build the tesla engine-er, DE reactor so it doesn't blow up the world
L906[13:46:09] <Inari> But thats only like 300 blocks
L907[13:46:12] <Inari> Not quite "the world"
L908[13:47:02] <Inari> Plus that only requires a single place
L909[14:09:09] <Elfi> Plenty of other stuff you can try out that you wouldn't dare on a planet
L910[14:09:15] <Elfi> Such as magic cake-powered engines
L911[14:09:21] <Elfi> ...If only the imbued fire still existed
L912[14:10:05] * Elfi quietly disregards the fact that she started her own magical cake engine on land >x>
L913[14:10:29] <DaCompu​terNerd> I personally prefer using NC over DE for power
L914[14:33:35] <Forec​aster> you can practice social distancing on another planet quite easily
L915[14:33:43] <Elfi> I was mostly thinking of examples of devices that are best kept in isolation
L916[15:08:52] <Forec​aster> Lizzy do you have Star Citizen?
L917[15:14:07] <Amanda> ........ fucking hisenbugs
L918[15:14:53] <Amanda> @payonel I did nothing except add some logging, and the bug's gone! :D
L919[15:15:17] <Forec​aster> Bugs hate logs
L920[15:15:28] <Amanda> I assure you, they don't
L921[15:43:05] <Forec​aster> oh boy, never mind...
L922[15:43:10] <Forec​aster> that was basically a slideshow
L923[15:43:40] <Forec​aster> 6 fps average
L924[15:44:18] <Forec​aster> and about 40 minutes just to get from Area 18 residences to the convention center, which was apparently closed?
L925[15:44:34] <Forec​aster> the elevators just had the option "Lobby" in them
L926[15:47:20] <Inari> Haha
L927[15:47:34] <Inari> I try star citizen like once every 6m onths
L928[15:47:40] <Inari> Just to realise my PC still can't hadnle it
L929[15:47:40] <Inari> :)
L930[15:49:31] <Forec​aster> the game warned me that I didn't have enough ram when it started, I thought "eh, it's probably fine"
L931[15:49:35] <Forec​aster> ...it wasn't fine
L932[15:52:08] <R​ph> I made a thing which can display images from a given subreddit using my image viewer
L933[15:52:23] <R​ph> Requires an external server for converting reddit images to a normalised OC format
L934[15:55:31] <Bighea​dAmarok> How can i make custom armor in this mod
L935[15:55:39] <Forec​aster> what
L936[15:55:53] <Forec​aster> what do you mean "make custom armor"?
L937[15:56:00] <Bighea​dAmarok> Like armour
L938[15:56:12] <Bighea​dAmarok> That keeps ur stuff when die
L939[15:56:25] <Forec​aster> ...what does that have to do with OC?
L940[15:56:36] <Bighea​dAmarok> Someone told me about it
L941[15:56:58] <Forec​aster> OC doesn't have that
L942[16:00:24] <R​ph> any reason why OpenOS sometimes screams at me about "too many open handles" even after I handle:close() everything I fs.open/
L943[16:01:07] <Forec​aster> if you can reliably reproduce that I'm sure payonel would want to have a look at it
L944[16:01:22] <R​ph> nevermind, my bad, other code doesn't close handles
L945[16:01:59] <R​ph> I now fixed it
L946[16:44:03] <Amanda> @payonel thoughts on making it so if a table passed to fs.mount has a address field, and you don't pass mountPath, it'll default to the same that it would for a real fs? And maybe make it so they're returned from fs.proxy as well? I'm finding it's somewhat inconvient to have generic code to mount from a vfs component vs a real fs component when I want to have the data bind-mounted in a place that makes sense for my program.
L947[16:51:17] <Inari> @Ariri @The_Stargazer are client and server configs the same now?
L948[16:53:44] <Amanda> %ping
L949[16:53:46] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ama​nda 0.42s
L950[16:53:56] * Inari pings Amanda
L951[16:55:43] <Amanda> Mew!
L952[16:56:06] <Amanda> seems I can't connect anymore
L953[16:56:36] <Amanda> is @Ariri's ISP doing maintence again?
L954[16:59:01] * Inari plugs Amanda's tail directly into the server
L955[16:59:10] <Amanda> %bap Inari
L956[16:59:11] <MichiBot> Amanda baps Inari with the Shiny family of quakers! (10%)!
L957[17:01:43] <Inari> Hey
L958[17:01:46] <Inari> Just giving you a direct link
L959[17:01:46] <Inari> D:
L960[17:02:21] <Forec​aster> it's a cat tail, not a cat6 tail
L961[17:03:20] <Inari> Same thing!
L962[17:10:56] <Amanda> lies
L963[17:11:04] <Amanda> or else I'll make noodles out of your tail!
L964[17:44:01] <Inari> %splash Amanda's tail
L965[17:44:02] <MichiBot> You fling a cloudy white potion (New!) that splashes onto Amanda's tail. A Jumbonium dagger appears next to Amanda's tail.
L966[17:44:07] * Inari runs
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L971[18:22:33] <Amanda> Inari: how could you do this to me, on this, the day of my bed frame's welding
L972[18:22:51] <Amanda> %stab Inari
L973[18:22:52] <MichiBot> Ama​nda is stabbing In​ari with Supercharged Frame Shift Drive for 1d4 => 1 (Charged +1) => 2 damage! A bug was found in Supercharged Frame Shift Drive and it was decommissioned.
L974[18:23:06] <t20kdc> ...what's the side effects of a bug in a supercharged frame shift drive
L975[18:23:10] <t20kdc> nothing good I would assume
L976[18:27:34] <Amanda> %choose go back to playing with lilac or wait until the bed's reassembled and you're surely free for the night
L977[18:27:35] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Why not both? Okay fine. "go back to playing with lilac".
L978[18:37:02] <Izaya> t20kdc: the bug gets splattered across 60 lightyears
L979[18:37:12] <Amanda> meowning Izaya
L980[18:37:22] <Izaya> hi
L981[18:37:31] <Izaya> about to go to bed actually, but it is very much morning
L982[18:37:46] <Amanda> in that case, sleep gud. :3
L983[18:38:05] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/Ae5zMVq.png
L984[18:38:11] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/svgsOLi.png
L985[18:38:56] <Izaya> I won democracy using sheer advertising.
L986[18:39:49] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/ycoop6kh
L987[18:39:57] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yay
L988[18:40:01] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> my build.lua works
L989[18:40:05] <Lizzy> @Forecaster um, not sure, i can check
L990[18:40:12] <Lizzy> oh, nvm
L991[18:41:33] <Lizzy> though the answer to the question do i have it is no
L992[18:41:55] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> hmm i'm gonna have to restructure tsuki a little
L993[18:45:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> init.lua is "whoops, all `--#include`s"
L994[18:48:33] <Ar​iri> Amanda: Uh, nu?
L995[18:49:13] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> tasty? http://tinyurl.com/ybnhao56
L996[18:50:25] <Amanda> @Ariri I've been getting intermittent timeouts to your server this moewning
L997[18:51:19] <Ar​iri> hrmm..
L998[18:51:22] <Amanda> Inari: Thanks, I hate it
L999[18:51:28] <Inari> :D
L1000[18:51:45] <Inari> %pet Amanda
L1001[18:51:45] <MichiBot> Inari is petting Amanda with Inari's latest ASMR fix. Amanda regains 1d4 => 3 hit points! Inari's latest ASMR fix suddenly realized it had somewhere else to be!
L1002[18:51:45] <Ar​iri> just timeouts? whats the reason?
L1003[18:52:23] <Inari> Amanda being pet with either microblading or lash lifting
L1004[18:52:23] <Ar​iri> Server is being spammed with add packets for some reason too
L1005[18:52:24] <Amanda> @Ariri not sure, but if I try and mtr to the IP shortly after, it dies in the same place it did when your ISP was doing maintnece last weekend
L1006[18:52:42] <Inari> "add packets"?
L1007[18:52:54] <Ar​iri> weird
L1008[18:53:00] <Ar​iri> ill have a look
L1009[18:54:24] <Amanda> Protip: Networking works better when you actually install a network card.
L1010[18:54:38] <Inari> Nah
L1011[18:54:47] <Inari> With a network card you just have to deal with all kinds of networking issues
L1012[18:54:51] <Inari> Without one it just won't work, period
L1013[18:55:01] <Amanda> not working ~= working
L1014[18:55:13] <Inari> :p
L1015[18:55:34] <Inari> Networking works 100% wihtout a network card
L1016[18:55:37] <Inari> Theres just no networks :)
L1017[18:57:26] <Forec​aster> Lizzy well if you were wanting to try it this week's free
L1018[18:57:37] <Inari> Anyway, if the client and server configs are the same, adv. rocketry is kinda weirdly configured
L1019[18:57:47] <Forec​aster> I need to get more ram for next time...
L1020[18:58:12] <Forec​aster> By this week I mean the one that ends with today
L1021[18:58:16] <Inari> Like, you turned off the ability for the laser drill to harvest ressources from the planet, thus it will just generate ressources, like the EnvironTech stuff instead of mining it. But then no new ores are added to the list of generated ores, so it only seems to gatehr the vanilla ones
L1022[18:59:17] <Ar​iri> I didnt modify advrocketry configs
L1023[18:59:49] <Inari> Hmm
L1024[18:59:57] <Inari> maybe it's off by default and just expects people to actually add new ores
L1025[19:00:54] <Ar​iri> I dont know if it ever spawned any ores, bc it never showed up as missing when the mod wasnt present during release
L1026[19:01:14] <Inari> Well I mean
L1027[19:01:20] <Inari> All the ores the other mods add
L1028[19:02:12] <Inari> Currently it's only set to mine iron, gold, copper, tin, redstone, and diamond
L1029[19:02:24] <Inari> So that lacks a lot of ores from nuclearcraft, thermal foundation, etc
L1030[19:03:05] <Ar​iri> ill fix it in the next patch then, what an odd config
L1031[19:03:34] <Inari> "S:laserDrillOres" in /advRocketry/advancedRocketry.cfg
L1032[19:03:45] <Inari> Also theres no Hravestable gases entered, wonder if thats normal
L1033[19:04:47] <Lizzy> i don't see star citizen on steam
L1034[19:06:21] <Ar​iri> Amanda: You're right, mtr looks really funky
L1035[19:06:35] <Ar​iri> no idea why
L1036[19:07:39] <Ar​iri> if you timeout again, ill try some troubleshooting so lmk
L1037[19:07:44] <Amanda> kk
L1038[19:08:03] <Inari> Seems thats the default config though, yeah
L1039[19:09:38] <Amanda> That damn rick-roll post from yesterday has lodged Fireflies in my brain
L1040[19:10:11] <Inari> Amanda: Just watch the mya-nee video I linked to you
L1041[19:10:17] <Amanda> no
L1042[19:10:29] <Amanda> I'd rather something with more then 2 words be stuck in my head
L1043[19:10:42] <Inari> It has more than 2
L1044[19:10:43] <Inari> :D
L1045[19:11:43] <Amanda> oky, more than 10
L1046[19:12:42] <Ar​iri> myaaa-neeee
L1047[19:12:51] <Ar​iri> oiiii
L1048[19:13:01] <Inari> heh
L1049[19:19:05] <Forec​aster> Lizzy it's not on steam
L1050[19:19:23] <Forec​aster> They have their own launcher for it
L1051[19:19:28] <Lizzy> ah
L1052[19:22:16] <Inari> I mean
L1053[19:22:20] <Inari> Thats not mutually exclusive :D
L1054[19:23:44] <Forec​aster> I didn't say it was
L1055[19:25:27] <Lizzy> hmm, well it doesn't look like it runs on linux and their website is really confusing me right now so i might pass on it
L1056[19:26:08] <Lizzy> oh, aparrently the free-to-play is only till the 1st of June
L1057[19:26:10] <Lizzy> i.e. tomorrow
L1058[19:26:23] <Inari> Thats what Forecaster said, yes :D
L1059[19:26:41] <Lizzy> ah
L1060[19:26:43] <Inari> Not like you're missing much imo
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L1062[19:30:57] <Amanda> do relays not take power from OC Cables attched to them?
L1063[19:31:39] <Lizzy> they do, but i think stuff like nei's overlays only show it as getting power on the one side
L1064[19:50:16] <Amanda> @Ariri it just happen
L1065[19:51:36] <Forec​aster> They have a free week every year I think
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L1067[19:52:27] <Amanda> ... oh
L1068[19:54:17] <Ar​iri> Yeah, just gave it a kick
L1069[19:54:52] <Forec​aster> Also it's not officially supported but I think it can be run on Linux
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L1072[19:55:35] <Forec​aster> I was hoping we could check it out together but it's unplayable on my system currently
L1073[19:56:10] <Lizzy> ah
L1074[19:57:14] <Lizzy> if i'd caught it at the start of the free week, i would have had motivation to get it working / reboot to windows for it, but since it finishes in ~4 hours or so i don't deem it worth effort at present
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L1077[20:10:03] <AdorableCatgirl> jesus fucking CHRIST
L1078[20:10:22] <Inari> ?
L1079[20:10:49] <AdorableCatgirl> i can't wait to move out
L1080[20:10:55] <AdorableCatgirl> >->
L1081[20:11:30] <Kristo​pher38> I'm moving out
L1082[20:12:47] <AdorableCatgirl> also recent events have really shown me how much of a piece of shit my dad is lmao
L1083[20:15:06] <Ar​iri> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jQthJ2uvLI&feature=share
L1084[20:15:06] <Ar​iri> about damn time
L1085[20:15:06] <MichiBot> The NEW Windows Terminal is Finally Released! - Here's Why It's Awesome | length: 12m 4s | Likes: 3,051 Dislikes: 71 Views: 48,541 | by ThioJoe | Published On 30/5/2020
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L1088[20:24:12] <Blue_595> i just learned about something called the AltGr key
L1089[20:24:22] <Klea​dron> do tell more
L1090[20:24:23] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> you just did?
L1091[20:24:25] <Sagh​etti> yeah, what about it
L1092[20:24:31] <Blue_595> yes
L1093[20:24:37] <Sagh​etti> ok
L1094[20:24:37] <Blue_595> nobody told me about this earlier
L1095[20:24:44] <Inari> Heh
L1096[20:25:00] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> then again
L1097[20:25:40] <Blue_595> "...normally takes the case of the Right Alt key."
L1098[20:25:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i modified eurkey a little and use it all the time
L1099[20:26:03] <Blue_595> doesnt work for me how do i enable this key
L1100[20:26:12] <Blue_595> i never use right Alt as Alt
L1101[20:26:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> you need a keyboard layout that supports it
L1102[20:26:41] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ¬
L1103[20:26:43] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ¦
L1104[20:26:44] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> lmao
L1105[20:26:45] <Blue_595> if it has a separate key code
L1106[20:27:00] <Inari> @AdorableCatgirl AH, you're watching that video too
L1107[20:27:00] <Inari> :p
L1108[20:27:05] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ah
L1109[20:27:08] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yeah, saw it
L1110[20:27:19] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i was like "hey i can type those with eurkey"
L1111[20:27:29] <Blue_595> is that a key mapper
L1112[20:27:55] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> it's a keyboard layouy
L1113[20:27:57] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> *layout
L1114[20:28:02] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> https://eurkey.steffen.bruentjen.eu/
L1115[20:28:03] <Blue_595> ok
L1116[20:28:15] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> might come with your distro tho
L1117[20:28:26] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> `setxkbmap eu`
L1118[20:28:27] <Blue_595> "To activate it, hold down the left Ctrl key and the right Shift key at the same time for about 3-5 seconds."
L1119[20:28:39] <Blue_595> thats the case for Windows 10, what about mint 19.2?
L1120[20:28:40] <Amanda> %remindme 5m test ticket expirery
L1121[20:28:41] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "test ticket expirery" at 05/31/2020 12:33:41 PM
L1122[20:28:48] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> like i said
L1123[20:29:03] <Blue_595> no change
L1124[20:29:19] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> oh well
L1125[20:29:21] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L1126[20:29:53] <Blue_595> ok i tried your command now
L1127[20:30:11] <Blue_595> z -> à
L1128[20:30:15] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ¬-(ùwú)
L1129[20:30:23] <Blue_595> 1 is ¡
L1130[20:30:37] <Blue_595> ¡ªº£€“”
L1131[20:30:40] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i can type all kinds of funky letters cause i modifed my keymap a bit
L1132[20:30:42] <Blue_595> im digging the new quotes
L1133[20:30:59] <Blue_595> thanks for the « and »
L1134[20:31:16] <Blue_595> ¬
L1135[20:31:17] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ok
L1136[20:31:20] <Blue_595> its the \ ¬
L1137[20:31:46] <Blue_595> wait what about fourth-level keys
L1138[20:31:55] <Blue_595> ¹²³¥¢‘’
L1139[20:32:04] <Blue_595> he-hey i got the ¦
L1140[20:32:06] <Blue_595> |
L1141[20:32:08] <Blue_595> ¦
L1142[20:32:40] <Blue_595> LSHIFT + AltGr + \ = ¦
L1143[20:32:44] <AdorableCatgirl> yes
L1144[20:32:46] <AdorableCatgirl> good job
L1145[20:32:52] <Blue_595> №
L1146[20:33:00] <Blue_595> is that what i think it is
L1147[20:33:05] <Blue_595> like №1
L1148[20:33:12] <AdorableCatgirl> you can type this in a document editor, you know
L1149[20:33:16] <AdorableCatgirl> or
L1150[20:33:17] <AdorableCatgirl> like
L1151[20:33:21] <AdorableCatgirl> look at the website i linked
L1152[20:33:42] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: test ticket expirery
L1153[20:33:52] <Inari> Is'nt alt gr the same as pressing ctrl and alt
L1154[20:33:54] <Blue_595> we have pass/fail markers!!!!
L1155[20:33:57] <AdorableCatgirl> i've become very used to my modified eurkey layout
L1156[20:34:04] <Blue_595> © № wait what
L1157[20:34:08] <AdorableCatgirl> Inari: no clue
L1158[20:34:14] <Blue_595> ey wheres my special symbols
L1159[20:34:22] <Inari> hmm maybe not
L1160[20:34:36] <AdorableCatgirl> ł
L1161[20:34:38] <AdorableCatgirl> take that
L1162[20:35:59] <Blue_595> oh Æ was moved to Q that was the problem
L1163[20:36:04] <Blue_595> iirc it used to be Z
L1164[20:37:32] <Blue_595> ew apple was involved in USB
L1165[20:37:43] <AdorableCatgirl> ok
L1166[20:37:44] <Blue_595> and yet they create their own proprietary, but functionally identical, standards
L1167[20:38:17] <Blue_595> Think Different(TM) indeed
L1168[20:39:16] <Blue_595> «‹›» i like this
L1169[20:39:30] <Blue_595> new shift symbols for my pseudocode
L1170[20:40:01] <Amanda> Apple's involved in a lot of standards.
L1171[20:40:12] <Inari> Wouldn't Think Different be TD
L1172[20:41:42] <Blue_595> no i mean apple has a trademark on that phrase with a £200 price to just say it
L1173[20:41:46] <Blue_595> without the (TM)
L1174[20:42:29] <Blue_595> also fuk this is a windows app
L1175[20:43:15] <Blue_595> doesnt seem to play well with Wine
L1176[20:43:50] <Blue_595> or rather my Wine installation doesnt play well with it
L1177[20:43:55] <Blue_595> ¦
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L1180[21:05:30] <Klea​dron> http://tinyurl.com/yb6xh8ac
L1181[21:05:42] <Klea​dron> i painfully reskinned a dispenser and figured out how it does textures
L1182[21:06:01] <Klea​dron> this is a seperate block though
L1183[21:06:51] <Sagh​etti> ooh
L1184[21:06:55] <Sagh​etti> mc beta?
L1185[21:06:59] <Sagh​etti> fun
L1186[21:07:08] <Sagh​etti> i'm guessing b1.7, am i right?
L1187[21:07:15] <Klea​dron> yep
L1188[21:07:56] <Sagh​etti> i want to do multiplayer 2011 technic
L1189[21:08:09] <Sagh​etti> but i'm kinda scared of ModLoaderMP
L1190[21:08:28] <Sagh​etti> looks like a whole nother can of worms
L1191[21:10:30] <Klea​dron> it's just an extension to modloader i think
L1192[21:10:34] <Klea​dron> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L1193[21:10:38] <Klea​dron> i don't know how it works
L1194[21:12:05] <Sagh​etti> me neither
L1195[21:12:15] <immibis> you just install it exactly like modloader...
L1196[21:12:34] <Sagh​etti> where am i going to get all of the old server-side mods from though?
L1197[21:12:37] <immibis> the client needs modloader and modloadermp. the server just needs modloadermp. (and both need forge if the pack uses forge)
L1198[21:12:44] <immibis> *shrug*
L1199[21:12:55] <immibis> is this a singleplayer pack? because if so, most of the mods probably didn't *have* server versions
L1200[21:12:56] <Sagh​etti> and i can feel the impending doom of weird unexplainable crashes
L1201[21:13:19] <Sagh​etti> i've already found server-side buildcraft
L1202[21:13:28] <Sagh​etti> but idk if i'm going to get much further
L1203[21:13:42] <immibis> technic is a single-player pack IIRC. The multiplayer one was tekkit
L1204[21:13:58] <Sagh​etti> was there even multiplayer packs in 2011?
L1205[21:13:59] <Klea​dron> well 2 bad it's multiplayer now
L1206[21:15:11] <immibis> well you have to have server-side versions of those mods to have multiplayer. Does it include thaumcraft?
L1207[21:15:48] <Ar​iri> Inari: https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/gu5d29/i_graduated_from_tokyo_u_after_all/
L1208[21:16:50] <Sagh​etti> doesn't have thaumcraft afaik
L1209[21:17:15] <Ocawes​ome101> @Saghetti did you see I got OpenOS 1.0 working on modern OC
L1210[21:17:52] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L1211[21:18:01] <Sagh​etti> looks cool
L1212[21:18:04] <Sagh​etti> also, https://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=Download#Download_IC.C2.B2_for_Minecraft.C2.A0Beta.C2.A01.7.3_.28Singleplayer_only.29
L1213[21:18:10] <Ocawes​ome101> nice
L1214[21:18:13] <Sagh​etti> i currently have IC2 installed
L1215[21:18:22] <Sagh​etti> but there is regular IC, multiplayer compatibl
L1216[21:18:32] <Sagh​etti> compatible*
L1217[21:19:36] <immibis> no. regular IC was never multiplayer compatible, I think.
L1218[21:20:36] <Sagh​etti> there's a version for b1.4_01 labeled multiplayer compatible
L1219[21:21:10] <Sagh​etti> the earliest version of ic2 that's multiplayer compatible is for b1.8.1
L1220[21:22:03] <Klea​dron> odd http://tinyurl.com/ycddch9k
L1221[21:22:33] <Sagh​etti> wait a minute
L1222[21:22:39] <Sagh​etti> is that what i think it is
L1223[21:22:49] <Sagh​etti> computers for b1.7.3?!
L1224[21:23:25] <Klea​dron> no idea if i will ever even get close to computers working but i want to do that
L1225[21:23:35] <Sagh​etti> jaw drops
L1226[21:23:37] <Klea​dron> i didn't see any computer mods for beta 1.7.3 and was displeased byt hat
L1227[21:23:44] <Sagh​etti> same here
L1228[21:23:44] <Klea​dron> by that*
L1229[21:23:47] <Klea​dron> yeah
L1230[21:24:07] <Sagh​etti> maybe you could steal computercraft's code
L1231[21:24:19] <immibis> computers were invented by computercraft in ~1.0 I think?
L1232[21:24:28] <Klea​dron> yep they were
L1233[21:24:51] <pay​onel> amanda - can we talk a touch more about the filesystem component address, and mounting? i didn't fully understand your suggestion
L1234[21:25:26] <Klea​dron> i mean, i could try and yoink computercraft code but cc for 1.0 doesn't have it's source code up so it would be a bit difficult
L1235[21:25:57] <Klea​dron> and, i have no idea how to do that
L1236[21:27:58] <Sagh​etti> also @Kleadron great discord server
L1237[21:27:59] <Sagh​etti> https://discord.gg/8Qky5XY
L1238[21:28:05] <Klea​dron> i'm already in it
L1239[21:28:06] <Sagh​etti> people dedicated to modding old versions of mc
L1240[21:28:11] <Sagh​etti> oh ok
L1241[21:28:20] <Sagh​etti> never noticed :P
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L1243[21:47:20] <Amanda> %oclogs
L1244[21:47:21] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/list?chan=oc
L1245[21:51:01] <pay​onel> hi amanda - can we talk a touch more about the filesystem component address, and mounting? i didn't fully understand your suggestion
L1246[21:51:20] <Amanda> @payonel oops, sorry, I went and nerd-sniped myself a couple times
L1247[21:51:25] <Amanda> @payonel gimme a sec
L1248[21:51:31] <Inari> s/a t/and t/
L1249[21:51:31] <MichiBot> <payonel> hi amanda - can we talk and touch more about the filesystem component address, and mounting? i didn't fully understand your suggestion
L1250[21:52:23] <pay​onel> ^.^
L1251[21:52:28] <pay​onel> %pet inari
L1252[21:52:28] <MichiBot> pay​onel is petting inari with 100% free risk. inari regains 1d4 => 1 hit points! 100% free risk was suddenly outlawed and confiscated by the MIB.
L1253[21:52:34] <Inari> %bite @payonel
L1254[21:52:34] <MichiBot> In​ari is biting @pay​onel for 1d6 => 2 damage!
L1255[21:52:39] <pay​onel> woah woah
L1256[21:53:09] <Inari> Only my beloved is allowed to pet me :f
L1257[21:53:22] <pay​onel> and who is that?
L1258[21:53:37] <Inari> Noone here
L1259[21:53:46] <pay​onel> ok you got it
L1260[21:54:02] <Inari> :3
L1261[21:54:58] <Amanda> @payonel basically, I want [this](https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/-/blob/master/lilac/server/openos/lib/lilac/server/commands/file-server.lua#L18-31) to be a bit clearer, maybe make it use `config.path` or ismilar, but I want it to always exist in `/var/lib/lilac/file-server` no matter what that souce happens to be, a vfs (such as ncsourcefs) or a disk I'm just rsyncing stuff to ( real `filesystem` component )
L1262[21:55:32] <Lizzy​-chan> oh wow, didn't realise discord supported the markdown stuff for links
L1263[21:55:53] <Ocawes​ome101> it does??? nice
L1264[21:56:24] <Sagh​etti> woah
L1265[21:58:54] <Ocawes​ome101> also til that gnome 3.36 is actually rather speedy
L1266[21:59:10] <Ocawes​ome101> 3.32 was slow asf
L1267[21:59:58] <Amanda> @payonel one thing I thought was maybe fs.mount (Which accepts an address) could also accept an `address`field passed to a previous fs.mount(table) -- and fs.mount(table) could also use that field as a default of "/mnt/<first-three-of-address>" like it does for real filesystem components.
L1268[22:00:12] <Amanda> s/also accept/also look up via/
L1269[22:00:12] <MichiBot> <Amanda> @payonel one thing I thought was maybe fs.mount (Which accepts an address) could also look up via an `address`field passed to a previous fs.mount(table) -- and fs.mount(table) could also use that field as a default of "/mnt/<first-three-of-address>" like it does for real filesystem components.
L1270[22:01:28] <pay​onel> i want to add to this discussion there is `mount --bind` and `/dev/components/by-address/{address}/device` which can also be mounted
L1271[22:01:40] <pay​onel> `--bind` can mount a dir to dir
L1272[22:02:09] <pay​onel> i'm not saying that would simplify what you're doing, i just felt like mentioning it 🙂
L1273[22:02:36] <pay​onel> so are you saying, just to reword it ..
L1274[22:02:55] <pay​onel> that, after first `fs.mount(path, _table)`
L1275[22:03:36] <pay​onel> and then a later `fs.mount(table2)` ... the `table2.address` should be compared to previous mounts, and if it matches, ... use the same path? no..that doesn't make sense
L1276[22:03:54] <pay​onel> oh, no no i think i understand
L1277[22:04:17] <pay​onel> you're saying, let `fs.mount(table)` work, and just use `table.address:sub(1, 3)` as the default target path
L1278[22:04:19] <pay​onel> yeah?
L1279[22:04:42] <pay​onel> but i don't undersand your point about "previous fs.mount`
L1280[22:05:16] <pay​onel> -- s/"/`/ not working
L1281[22:05:21] <pay​onel> i thought discord was smart 🙂
L1282[22:05:53] <Forec​aster> not sure why you'd think that :P
L1283[22:06:08] <Amanda> @payonel maybe this'll clear it up? https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/snippets/95
L1284[22:06:29] <Amanda> There might be a better way to do this already, but that's what's stuck in my head
L1285[22:06:52] <pay​onel> oh, for device lookup
L1286[22:06:54] <Amanda> Basically, I've got two semi-related ideas at once, and am trying to relay them both
L1287[22:06:58] <pay​onel> that's an interesting point
L1288[22:07:12] <pay​onel> yeah, i'm with you now
L1289[22:07:23] <pay​onel> so, i'm not in love with auto /mnt/{uuid} stuff
L1290[22:07:30] <pay​onel> i didn't like that even as it is in openos
L1291[22:07:42] <pay​onel> but, a smarter device lookup!? i do like that
L1292[22:08:25] <pay​onel> btw, there is a different between automounting stuff to /mnt/uuid vs how the fs mount utils work
L1293[22:08:36] <pay​onel> there is just some mess there, imo
L1294[22:08:57] <Amanda> I'm not braining at full capacity atm, but I think I saw some stuff in the full_filesystem that would also work to normalise it in my specific usecase, soemthing baout getting a proxy of a directory?
L1295[22:09:25] <pay​onel> well that sounds a bit like `mount --bind`
L1296[22:09:34] <Amanda> true
L1297[22:09:54] <pay​onel> so right now, `mount --bind` is dir to dir
L1298[22:09:58] <pay​onel> but, ...
L1299[22:10:04] <Amanda> I think Imight be leaking abstractions a bit in my file-server.lua
L1300[22:10:13] <Amanda> or rather, consuming a leak
L1301[22:10:14] <Amanda> ?
L1302[22:10:32] <Amanda> bbs, need to use the rain box to wash the sweat and dust off myself from cleaning
L1303[22:10:40] <pay​onel> 🙂
L1304[22:11:03] <R​ph> I forgot, did I share my OC reddit browser here yet?
L1305[22:11:21] <R​ph> (just images and titles, for now)
L1306[22:11:42] <Forec​aster> no
L1307[22:11:54] <Forec​aster> %sip
L1308[22:11:54] <MichiBot> You drink a cloudy purple potion (New!). Forec​aster gains the ability to talk to dryads until they say the phrase "Jeez Wenk".
L1309[22:12:17] <R​ph> well, here is a video http://tinyurl.com/yaq69nd9
L1310[22:12:29] <R​ph> im gonna put it on github
L1311[22:16:45] <Sagh​etti> %absorb
L1312[22:16:45] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly tiberium potion (New!). Sagh​etti feels like one particular wasp has it out for them suddenly.
L1313[22:16:54] <Sagh​etti> uhhhh
L1314[22:18:54] <pay​onel> @Rph that is really quite fantastic
L1315[22:18:58] <pay​onel> well done
L1316[22:19:55] <R​ph> thanks
L1317[22:27:43] <Ocawes​ome101> OpenOS 1.0 does not still work on a t1 stick of memory
L1318[22:28:06] <Ocawes​ome101> %s/a t1 stick/64k/
L1319[22:28:06] <MichiBot> <Ocawesome101> OpenOS 1.0 does not still work on 64k of memory
L1320[22:28:57] <ma​ttx> hello
L1321[22:28:57] <ma​ttx> @Rph ~~are we ever gonna make wasm cards~~
L1322[22:31:06] <Klea​dron> @Ocawesome101 i think maybe the reason things use more ram is because all the libraries are actually loaded into memory now
L1323[22:31:16] <Klea​dron> like term
L1324[22:31:23] <Ocawes​ome101> oh yeah probably
L1325[22:31:36] <ma​ttx> Term can't really be not loaded at all times
L1326[22:32:17] <R​ph> in highly memory constrained scenarios, using OpenOS is probably impossible anyway
L1327[22:32:22] <R​ph> especially when its like a drone or a microcontroller
L1328[22:33:02] <ma​ttx> Drones and OpenOS? That's extreme overhead
L1329[22:35:45] <ma​ttx> @Ocawesome101 imo it'd be much better to just write an OpenOS compatible OS that runs on 64k of memory instead of slimming down the crap out ofit
L1330[22:35:52] <ma​ttx> @Ocawesome101 imo it'd be much better to just write an OpenOS compatible OS that runs on 64k of memory instead of slimming down the crap out of it [Edited]
L1331[22:36:02] <Ocawes​ome101> hmm?
L1332[22:36:24] <Ocawes​ome101> OpenOS 1.0 is OpenOS from back when OpenComputers still had a ROM
L1333[22:36:40] <Ocawes​ome101> it's old
L1334[22:36:51] <Ocawes​ome101> and besides you're generally not gonna go lower than 192k anyway
L1335[22:36:53] <ma​ttx> ah, that
L1336[22:36:59] <ma​ttx> never really used that
L1337[22:37:34] <R​ph> I find memory constrained environments are better off with a bare metal OS anyway
L1338[22:37:49] <Ocawes​ome101> yep
L1339[22:38:02] <Amanda> back
L1340[22:38:03] <Ocawes​ome101> not something general-purpose :P
L1341[22:39:26] <R​ph> and by bare metal OS i usually mean just a single while loop processing events
L1342[22:39:32] <Ocawes​ome101> :P
L1343[22:39:36] <R​ph> or eventually something resembling a kernel
L1344[22:39:43] <R​ph> ocasionally*
L1345[22:40:40] <Sagh​etti> i'm eventually gonna work on my weird slot-based OS
L1346[22:41:12] <Sagh​etti> the lightest weight thing i can possibly make
L1347[22:41:25] <Sagh​etti> i'll release the kernel once i work on it
L1348[22:41:32] <Sagh​etti> and yep, it's only gonna be a kernel
L1349[22:42:43] <Ocawes​ome101> what exactly is this again, remind me?
L1350[22:43:19] <Sagh​etti> there are 256 slots
L1351[22:43:24] <Sagh​etti> the entire os is just a scheduler
L1352[22:43:37] <Sagh​etti> every slot contains a program/library/service
L1353[22:43:40] <Ocawes​ome101> oh yeah
L1354[22:43:52] <Ocawes​ome101> so at boot it just loads them in order then starts scheduling?
L1355[22:44:00] <Sagh​etti> when it boots, it loads all of the slots sequentially, and then it just schedules and does events
L1356[22:44:01] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L1357[22:44:29] <Sagh​etti> because of how rigid and simple it is, it can be insanely small and lightweight on memory
L1358[22:44:38] <Ocawes​ome101> true
L1359[22:45:51] <Klea​dron> haha Rph
L1360[22:46:06] <Klea​dron> that's basically what my base management system thing is
L1361[22:46:48] <Ocawes​ome101> Saghetti: and what if I make it first?
L1362[22:46:55] <Inari> Amandaserver died?
L1363[22:46:58] <Inari> Amanda: *
L1364[22:47:07] <Amanda> Mew?
L1365[22:47:15] <Amanda> Did you mean: @Ariri
L1366[22:47:30] <Inari> Well no, you're the one whose most often on it, so I figure you know its status
L1367[22:47:31] <Inari> :D
L1368[22:47:39] <Sagh​etti> @Ocawesome101 >:(
L1369[22:47:52] <Amanda> ah, I'm not on atm, was using the rain box and just vegging now. :P
L1370[22:47:54] <Inari> Maybe it was just restarting
L1371[22:48:04] <Inari> Is there na automatic restarT?
L1372[22:48:05] <Ar​iri> Inari: it’s up
L1373[22:48:08] <Ar​iri> yes
L1374[22:48:12] <Inari> Ah, I see
L1375[22:48:37] <Ar​iri> http://tinyurl.com/y8ncc77r
L1376[22:48:48] <Ar​iri> well it won’t restart unless it crashes
L1377[22:49:09] <Inari> guess it crashed then
L1378[22:52:21] <Thanos-​No Snap> How do I pick up a drone placed on the ground lol
L1379[22:52:32] <Sagh​etti> scrench
L1380[22:52:37] <Amanda> scrench it
L1381[22:52:44] <Michiyo> burn it
L1382[22:52:46] <Michiyo> :P
L1383[22:53:07] <Amanda> Michiyo playing a chaotic evil, I see
L1384[22:53:19] <Ocawes​ome101> btw Saghetti
L1385[22:53:24] <Ocawes​ome101> have you played at all on my server yet
L1386[22:53:27] <Michiyo> My usual position
L1387[22:54:21] <Inari> blow it off the ground with oneumaticraft fans
L1388[22:54:55] <Thanos-​No Snap> Why is my drone saying no bootable medium /.init found? I have a eeprom with lua
L1389[22:55:40] <Ocawes​ome101> drones don't work likle that
L1390[22:55:54] <Ocawes​ome101> you need to fit your software into 4kb and put it on an eeprom
L1391[22:56:05] <Michiyo> ^
L1392[22:56:07] <Thanos-​No Snap> Oh forgot to flash it on to eeprom dah
L1393[22:56:20] <Michiyo> Drones don't have disk drives. so the lua EEPROM will try to find a drive to boot from
L1394[22:56:46] <Michiyo> so you get to write your own code *without* all the bells and whistles from OpenOS and flash it to an EEPROM
L1395[22:56:58] <immibis> netboot ftw
L1396[22:57:50] <Inari> I should make a redstoneboot
L1397[22:57:58] <immibis> wrcbe-boot
L1398[22:58:14] <Inari> wrcbe?
L1399[22:58:21] <immibis> wireless redstone - chickenbones edition
L1400[22:58:36] <immibis> I think the tier 2 redstone card can do wireless redstone. And you can put it in drones
L1401[22:58:42] <Ocawes​ome101> oh god redstoneboot would be so slow
L1402[22:59:00] <Inari> Oh, that
L1403[22:59:26] <Thanos-​No Snap> What if it says not enough space when I try to flash? How do I compress it to 4kb
L1404[22:59:44] <Forec​aster> run it through a minimizer
L1405[22:59:45] <Inari> by making the code not larger tahn 4kb
L1406[22:59:46] <Inari> :D
L1407[22:59:47] <immibis> tough shit, your program has to be 4kb or less
L1408[22:59:52] <Forec​aster> or minifier etc
L1409[22:59:57] <Thanos-​No Snap> minimizer?
L1410[23:00:06] <Thanos-​No Snap> elaborate sir
L1411[23:00:11] <Forec​aster> removes line breaks and extra spaces and such
L1412[23:00:15] <immibis> a minifier would work if your program isn't too much bigger. It just makes names shorter, deletes whitespace, etc
L1413[23:00:18] <Forec​aster> some also shorten variable names
L1414[23:00:22] <Michiyo> single character variable names as well
L1415[23:00:34] <immibis> personally, my drone has a <4kb network bootloader, and it loads the real program from my computer
L1416[23:01:10] <Michiyo> One day I'll play Minecraft again
L1417[23:01:18] <Michiyo> and then steal someone elses code cause I can't lua
L1418[23:01:52] <immibis> it just sends a broadcast saying "hey gimme a program", then when it receives a program, it runs it. Network messages have a limit as well, so it can concatenate several messages if it gets them
L1419[23:02:52] <Michiyo> yeah, still can't lua lol
L1420[23:03:13] <Michiyo> Hell, I can barely java
L1421[23:03:53] <immibis> you can lua, you just don't want to
L1422[23:04:18] <Michiyo> No, I actively suck at it, and don't have time to dig in and learn
L1423[23:04:48] <Inari> Nah, you'd actively suck if you were doing lua
L1424[23:04:51] <Inari> you're just passively sucking
L1425[23:08:58] <t20kdc> the secret to omniscience in Lua is, in fact, known ||metatables||
L1426[23:09:50] <t20kdc> and yes I did just combine IRC-spoiler syntax and Discord-spoiler syntax
L1427[23:10:14] <Michiyo> in THEORY if you had just used the IRC syntax it would have worked on discord..
L1428[23:10:15] <Michiyo> lol
L1429[23:10:52] <t20kdc> ...oh
L1430[23:11:33] <Michiyo> Testing
L1431[23:11:37] <Michiyo> or not maybe
L1432[23:11:39] <t20kdc> the duck is not in fact a duck, it's an advanced form of metacrystal organism based on recursive cons trees
L1433[23:11:46] <Michiyo> I may have broken it
L1434[23:11:51] <Michiyo> it's *supposed* to work :p
L1435[23:12:32] <Forec​aster> I do recall someone saying something about barely being able to Java
L1436[23:12:46] <Michiyo> exactly.
L1437[23:15:45] <Michiyo> OH
L1438[23:15:47] <Michiyo> wow..
L1439[23:15:49] <Michiyo> I suck.
L1440[23:15:56] <Michiyo> Testing
L1441[23:16:08] <Michiyo> I check for EXPLICITLY 01,01
L1442[23:16:16] <Michiyo> https://github.com/CaitlynMainer/Yuri/blob/master/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/discord/bridge/IrcConnection.java#L340-L344
L1443[23:16:32] <Forec​aster> what's that mean
L1444[23:16:46] <Amanda> foreground/background colour
L1445[23:16:55] <t20kdc> well, it means that K01,01 works, K1,1 doesn't
L1446[23:17:01] <Michiyo> \\x0301,01 is black background/foreground
L1447[23:17:10] <t20kdc> so this text is only visible to those who have seen the holy grail
L1448[23:17:18] <Michiyo> yep, works fine
L1449[23:17:19] <t20kdc> while this text is visible to anyone
L1450[23:17:57] <Michiyo> Correct
L1451[23:18:30] <Thanos-​No Snap> https://streamable.com/9rmhr9
L1452[23:18:33] <AdorableCatgirl> huh
L1453[23:18:43] <AdorableCatgirl> highlighting colored text doesn't work in irssi
L1454[23:18:49] <AdorableCatgirl> oh well
L1455[23:19:15] <AdorableCatgirl> wait wot
L1456[23:19:22] <AdorableCatgirl> wow
L1457[23:19:31] <Michiyo> I need to split it, and see if they are the same value instead of directly specifying 01,01
L1458[23:19:34] <t20kdc> what did you do, create modal coloured text?
L1459[23:20:03] <AdorableCatgirl> hm?
L1460[23:20:21] <Amanda> %choose laptop nap time?
L1461[23:20:21] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Ah... well, I'd say wait an hour.
L1462[23:20:30] <Amanda> hrm, okai
L1463[23:21:06] <Thanos-​No Snap> \x0301,01 what
L1464[23:21:09] <Thanos-​No Snap> lmao
L1465[23:21:26] <Michiyo> yeah..?
L1466[23:21:46] <t20kdc> it's less painful than escape characters
L1467[23:21:47] <Michiyo> Of course that doesn't work directly from discord to IRC.. as \\x03 is a ASCII character
L1468[23:22:08] <Thanos-​No Snap> nifty
L1469[23:23:39] <Klea​dron> fixed the texturing issues http://tinyurl.com/ycs5l6ow
L1470[23:24:11] <Sagh​etti> ~~steal oc's textures and import them into your mod~~
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L1473[23:26:24] <Klea​dron> i noticed the ambient occlusion smooth lighting effects make the block look even darker on the bottom when placed down
L1474[23:29:50] <Thanos-​No Snap> Suggestion
L1475[23:30:16] <Thanos-​No Snap> Suggestion: Add helicopter sounds to drone 😄 [Edited]
L1476[23:32:01] <Amanda> %remindme 50m laptop nap tme
L1477[23:32:02] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "laptop nap tme" at 05/31/2020 04:22:01 PM
L1478[23:54:11] <Amanda> %poke Inari
L1479[23:54:11] <MichiBot> Ama​nda is poking In​ari with -1000000 cobblestone for 1d4 => 4 damage! -1000000 cobblestone is eaten by a Grue.
L1480[23:54:40] <Sagh​etti> %inv add NaN
L1481[23:54:40] * MichiBot summons 'NaN' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
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L1484[23:57:46] *** x1 is now known as ThePiGuy24
L1485[23:59:48] <Inari> Amanda: meow?
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