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L1[00:00:33] <pay​onel> there is no extra cost for colors in framebuffers, whereas changing colors directly has a direct impact on fps
L2[00:00:34] <Izaya> thoughts on sixel in OC?
L3[00:00:37] <pay​onel> not so with framebuffers
L4[00:05:12] <Ocawes​ome101> IzayaL sixel?
L5[00:05:41] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: ^^
L6[00:05:51] <R​ph> is there a way to make the internet card go faster?
L7[00:05:55] <R​ph> I figured it can do 40 KB/s
L8[00:06:05] <Izaya> Ocawesome101: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!w%20sixel&ia=web
L9[00:06:11] <R​ph> (tested by writing a server that just sends random bytes and reading the socket until I read 500 KB)
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L13[00:51:29] <R​ph> I wonder would framebuffers be good for this: I currently have an advertising system on a server I play on with one computer attached to 6 screens. It changes the image every 20 seconds or so and has to redraw it once per screen. Would a framebuffer work in this case?
L14[00:53:49] <Izaya> You would be able to draw to a framebuffer, then blit the buffer to the display
L15[00:54:41] <R​ph> ah, yes, this is exactly what I wanted
L16[00:54:58] <R​ph> im liking this framebuffer update more and more
L17[00:55:47] <B​ob> mineos at 60 fps
L18[00:56:39] <R​ph> im currently modifying OpenOS to play the "achieved with sorse" video on bootup
L19[00:58:23] <Izaya> I don't think it'll make it faster as much as naje it smoother
L20[00:58:38] <R​ph> Smoothness is also nice
L21[00:58:54] <R​ph> not having the whole image descend into the land of zalgo every time something moves etc
L22[01:04:48] <Michiyo> Ahh, nothing better than cleaning your glasses, and somehow they're worse then when you started.
L23[01:04:52] <Michiyo> It's the best.
L24[01:05:34] <R​ph> http://tinyurl.com/yd3za6ex
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L26[01:06:13] <Blue_595> do you know an IRC channel for Project Red?
L27[01:06:43] <Z0id​burg> Yes
L28[01:06:54] <Z0id​burg> It's literally projectred...
L29[01:07:00] <Blue_595> ok
L30[01:07:01] * Blue_595 facepalms
L31[01:07:21] <Izaya> Michiyo: can relate, but it's my helmet visor
L32[01:07:23] <Blue_595> accidentally connected to projected
L33[01:07:38] <Izaya> gotta love bug splatter
L34[01:07:44] <Michiyo> Projec Ted
L35[01:07:57] <Michiyo> Izaya, I want to get my bike running again..
L36[01:08:08] <Michiyo> unfortunately that means a rebuild of the engine and transmission
L37[01:08:09] * Lizzy wants to get a motorbike
L38[01:08:09] <Z0id​burg> I need a bike
L39[01:08:19] * Lizzy might do that whenever this crazyness finishes
L40[01:08:20] <Z0id​burg> My truck gets 4mpg
L41[01:08:37] <Izaya> Michiyo: x_x Did something happen to it or is it age or?
L42[01:08:56] <Z0id​burg> It doesn't seem to care it it is loaded or not it just gets 4mpg all the time
L43[01:09:01] <Michiyo> It's an 86? Harley Sportster. 883 with a 1200, It was my moms, she was t-boned in her work truck and couldn't ride anymore, so it sat for.... 10ish years.
L44[01:09:11] <Izaya> Ah, yeah, that'd do it.
L45[01:09:14] <Blue_595> enchiladas kinda seem like what happens when you make a big chungus quesadilla, but dont have a tortilla
L46[01:09:21] <Michiyo> Sadly... I don't have the title to it so I'm ALSO going to have to replace the fram to get a new VIN/Title
L47[01:09:31] <Izaya> I wanna get my mum's 71 CB750 running one day, but it's been sitting for almost 25 years now
L48[01:09:37] <Michiyo> frame*
L49[01:09:45] <Izaya> There's a big crack in the frame x-x
L50[01:10:01] <Blue_595> so the chassis/frame is what defines the car
L51[01:10:06] <Blue_595> good to know
L52[01:10:07] <Michiyo> So yeah, Tires, Frame, Engine/Transmission rebuild...
L53[01:10:16] <Blue_595> basically everything-in-the-car rebuild :D
L54[01:10:21] <Michiyo> Bike* but yes
L55[01:10:25] <Izaya> I need to get new tires for my current bike actually, shit
L56[01:10:27] <Blue_595> *distant* AND ITS STILL CHEAPER!
L57[01:10:57] <Izaya> Michiyo or S3, any idea if I can put radial tires on a bike that came with bias ply ones?
L58[01:11:56] <Z0id​burg> Off road tires izaya
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L60[01:12:13] <Z0id​burg> :D
L61[01:12:37] <Michiyo> Izaya, I don't think it's an issue, but I'm not 100%
L62[01:12:49] <Izaya> shiny
L63[01:12:53] <Blue_595> girl gets attacked by octopus while trying to eat it alive
L64[01:12:56] <Izaya> S3: nah I'm going full retard road tires
L65[01:13:02] <Blue_595> you get what you f___ing deserve
L66[01:13:02] <Z0id​burg> Michiyo do you have pics of this sexy bike?
L67[01:13:05] <Izaya> convinced my sister to go 50/50 in an XT250 though
L68[01:13:09] <Michiyo> I.. do not currently
L69[01:13:22] <Michiyo> It's in the back of her truck from the move still, lol
L70[01:13:30] <Z0id​burg> Aww
L71[01:13:38] <Michiyo> Neither the truck, or the bike are legal.
L72[01:13:40] <Michiyo> lol
L73[01:13:58] <Michiyo> the bike has FL tags from... ~2001/2
L74[01:14:05] <Z0id​burg> Are you sure? Aren't registrations closed?
L75[01:14:06] <Blue_595> florida :D
L76[01:14:07] <Michiyo> and the truck's tags are 2 years expired at this point
L77[01:14:44] <Z0id​burg> You see allowed to drive it here in Maine
L78[01:14:57] <Z0id​burg> All registrations and inspections are suspended
L79[01:15:09] <R​ph> I wonder could the tricks I applied to speed up GPU operations in image rendering be generalised to create a virtual fast GPU component
L80[01:15:18] <Izaya> tfw the roads are covered in fuckin cagies again
L81[01:15:20] <Blue_595> so far i've gotten 2 wrong numbers for someone named Brittany
L82[01:15:35] <Blue_595> theyre obviously 1 or 2 digits away from me, but how did 2 separate people make that mistake
L83[01:15:53] <Izaya> Rph: like, write a bunch to the GPU, then let it do the actual writing to the display?
L84[01:16:38] <Izaya> man, it's been ages since I did any bikeposting
L85[01:16:43] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/5d7001f89fd8c2818900d2002c1a1148ffc35638561bb3c62aa9730c8014fdb3.jpg
L86[01:17:32] <Michiyo> You're gonna make me get into my other Garage to take a picture...
L87[01:17:35] <Michiyo> Fuck it, it's walk time
L88[01:17:36] <Michiyo> AFK
L89[01:17:47] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/5ca8bc5ff51955c2f681877072622044f69f7a80b429e4b318cafcfbc0a123f1.jpg
L90[01:17:51] <Z0id​burg> Lollol
L91[01:18:03] <Izaya> That's what I like to hear.
L92[01:18:16] <Corded> * <Ocawes​ome101> sighs
L93[01:18:25] <Ocawes​ome101> Gigabyte’s UEFI is shit
L94[01:18:40] <Blue_595> yeah
L95[01:18:51] <Ocawes​ome101> I ran the appropriate efibootmgr command and it still can’t see my Linux kernel
L96[01:19:10] <Sagh​etti> fun
L97[01:19:14] <Izaya> works on my machine
L98[01:19:22] <Izaya> and I have uh
L99[01:19:37] <Izaya> a Z97X-SLI-CF
L100[01:19:39] <Izaya> apparently
L101[01:20:15] <Ocawes​ome101> I have a cheapo B360M-DS3H
L102[01:20:56] <Blue_595> i was looking for a datasheet to the Intel 8088
L103[01:21:02] <Blue_595> instead i got the fax number of Intel headquarters
L104[01:21:09] <Ocawes​ome101> Lmao
L105[01:21:15] <Blue_595> i dont have a fax machine google?
L106[01:21:36] <Ocawes​ome101> Grub didn’t want to work either
L107[01:21:49] <Mic​hiyo> http://tinyurl.com/yavl2szz
L108[01:22:06] <Z0id​burg> Ooooooooooooh
L109[01:22:08] <Blue_595> cant seem to recreate it but it happened
L110[01:22:32] <Ocawes​ome101> I’m starting to think I might have to install Ubuntu or something, which is a shame because Arch is much nicer
L111[01:22:45] <Ocawes​ome101> Except when I CAN’T GET IT TO EFFING BOOT
L112[01:22:47] <Blue_595> cant find an overhead picture of the intel building though
L113[01:22:50] <Mic​hiyo> I love this bike.. we used to ride almost every weekend. Then she got hurt
L114[01:22:57] <Blue_595> which sucks because i wanna build it in Minecraft for my semiconductor business
L115[01:23:34] <Z0id​burg> Does it need any work?
L116[01:23:35] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i should work on making my isuzu fun to drive
L117[01:23:44] <Izaya> tfw no isuzu piazza
L118[01:23:47] <R​ph> Izaya, yes
L119[01:23:51] <R​ph> Idea is you write a bunch to the virtual GPU
L120[01:23:56] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> tfw no isuzu impulse
L121[01:24:05] <R​ph> and it then uses my difference alghoritm to draw it in the most optimal way
L122[01:24:09] <Mic​hiyo> Yeah like i said Engine and Transmission rebuild
L123[01:24:18] <Mic​hiyo> And a frame to get a new vin for a title
L124[01:24:25] <Z0id​burg> That's fun. I like working on old engines
L125[01:24:31] <Izaya> could be an interesting exercise in what you can swap out
L126[01:24:38] <Mic​hiyo> It sat unran for 10+ years
L127[01:24:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> Izaya: are you talking about my cute little pickup
L128[01:24:48] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> if so: bet
L129[01:24:49] <Z0id​burg> People here just ride their 4 wheelers the wheels and tractors down the road
L130[01:24:53] <Izaya> nah
L131[01:24:57] <Z0id​burg> I don't see many motorcycles
L132[01:25:11] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i want my isuzu to go vroom vroom
L133[01:25:18] <Blue_595> i forgot nearly every chip fab is an entire complex
L134[01:25:25] <Izaya> on days like today I kind of want any car tbh
L135[01:25:25] <Mic​hiyo> K walking back home now so afk
L136[01:26:31] <Mic​hiyo> The damn battery maintiner i bout for the truck has let my battery die
L137[01:26:49] <Mic​hiyo> Bought too
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L139[01:27:16] <Mic​hiyo> Its been in the 90s this week so the bike would be fun
L140[01:27:54] <Izaya> Rph: AdorableCatgirl has done an in-memory GPU buffer, so you may want to compare notes
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L142[01:29:32] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> oh i'd have to find it
L143[01:29:38] <R​ph> did their in-memory GPU buffer do any sort of optimization when pushing the data to screen?
L144[01:29:52] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yes? sort of? kind of?
L145[01:30:04] <Izaya> now that libmtar is so smol I could easily include it in an EEPROM >:D
L146[01:30:08] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> it's a write through buffer tho?
L147[01:30:13] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> if i remember correctly
L148[01:30:17] <Izaya> FRequest boot 2: electric boogaloo
L149[01:30:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> also my honda makes more power than my truck and i'm now sad
L150[01:31:52] <Izaya> tfw stronkest 250cc road bike built since 1992
L151[01:36:29] <Michiyo> 1200cc/67.7 HP
L152[01:37:23] <Izaya> that's a lot of cc for not a lot of power, but that's tuning
L153[01:37:40] <Izaya> that, and I gather that from the factory they have insane headroom for tuning
L154[01:38:09] <Izaya> 250cc/36hp
L155[01:39:40] <Michiyo> I had a BIG ass 4cyl Suzuki that I was working on getting running when I was ~16
L156[01:39:51] <Michiyo> Then my fucking Grandfather sold it while I was at work one day.
L157[01:40:12] <Michiyo> Then I was in the middle of rebuilding a 90's Blazer about a year later... and can you guess what he did?
L158[01:40:17] <Michiyo> SOLD THE MOTHER FUCKER.
L159[01:40:27] <Michiyo> <_<
L160[01:40:42] <Thanos-​No Snap> Where do I find a list of "beep" sounds?
L161[01:41:41] <Izaya> >_>
L162[01:41:49] <Thanos-​No Snap> nvm lol
L163[01:41:55] <Izaya> I wanna get a Z900RS when I have like, $12k to waste
L164[01:42:28] <Michiyo> I really wanted a bike to ride *with* my mom... and sold it while I was at work ._.
L165[01:42:56] <Izaya> feels bad
L166[01:43:14] <Michiyo> anyway time to help make dinner
L167[01:43:15] <Michiyo> afk again
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L169[01:51:29] <Sagh​etti> so ive been playing 2011 tekkit
L170[01:51:37] <Sagh​etti> verdict: jesus fucking christ night time is scary
L171[01:52:36] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/ybuchyur
L172[01:52:42] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> Izaya: remember your server with the zombies with guns?
L173[01:52:43] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/y86pfod5
L174[01:52:50] <Izaya> yeah it was good shit
L175[01:52:54] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> B)
L176[01:53:00] <Sagh​etti> these guys wrecked my house at least like 4 times now
L177[01:53:04] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> git gud
L178[01:53:15] <Izaya> millenaire!
L179[01:53:16] <Sagh​etti> and i cant sprint away from them
L180[01:53:17] <Izaya> :D
L181[01:53:20] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> you don't know true pain until the zombies whip out the hitscan weapons
L182[01:53:21] <Sagh​etti> because this is fucking 2011 mc
L183[01:53:30] <Sagh​etti> that's true pain
L184[01:53:54] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/y795o8pz
L185[01:54:00] <Sagh​etti> also i love how it tries to spawn sharks on ice
L186[01:54:17] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> you know what's worse than zombies with hitscan weapons?
L187[01:54:22] <Izaya> sharks on ice sounds like a horror B-movie
L188[01:54:25] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> literally any enemy with a shotgun
L189[01:54:31] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> in any game
L190[01:54:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> or even worse
L191[01:54:54] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> with a rocket launcher
L192[01:54:59] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> coughhalocough
L193[01:55:30] <Sagh​etti> Izaya: it doesss
L194[01:56:41] <Sagh​etti> dang it, i can't craft any tools or armor using copper or tin
L195[01:56:52] <Sagh​etti> i literally only found 1 piece of iron ore
L196[01:57:34] <Amanda> @adorablecatgirl I can make it worse
L197[01:57:49] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> I HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION
L198[01:57:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> why are libraries cursed in video games
L199[01:58:08] <Izaya> libraries?
L200[01:58:11] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> see: halo, metro
L201[01:58:29] <Izaya> right
L202[01:58:42] <Izaya> it took me like an hour to go through each metro level I s2g
L203[01:58:48] <Amanda> An ally with a rocket launcher... Using the same aim logic as a pistol
L204[01:59:07] <Izaya> that sounds like it could blow up in someone's face
L205[01:59:40] <Amanda> Yes, like yours, or their own, failing the mission
L206[01:59:41] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> you see ivan
L207[02:00:04] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> the library in metro 2033 made me angery as fuck
L208[02:00:33] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> it was worse than the NPP in STALKER SoC
L209[02:00:47] <Sagh​etti> one thing that i hate the most is no computercraft
L210[02:01:37] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> aight brb
L211[02:02:27] <Sagh​etti> holy shit i found diamonds
L212[02:02:31] <Sagh​etti> but i only have stone tools
L213[02:02:33] <Sagh​etti> what is thissss
L214[02:04:06] <Sagh​etti> also quarries are so expensive :(
L215[02:08:24] <Izaya> Ariri: cursed idea: IRC ping -> XMPP ZNC module but it's for picking up ratsignals in #fuelrats
L216[02:11:07] <Lizzy> hmm, why are my containers failing to backup
L217[02:14:06] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/90c0e87a3d90c29fd78571c43ee1bf81e5e0eb53769178ca2cca23b302b99267.png
L218[02:14:13] <Lizzy> hmm, seems i need to re-start my containers.. yay
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L220[02:20:58] <Ariri> Izaya: Strangely enough, I had a similar idea
L221[02:22:21] <Blue_595> since #ProjectRed seems mostly dead
L222[02:22:28] <Blue_595> i have a question about their feedback buttons?
L223[02:22:56] <Blue_595> if you feed them with a really fast redstone clock (on 1 tick, off 1 tick), do they stay on like redstone lamps, or do they flicker really fast
L224[02:23:13] <Blue_595> because then when im not driving the lamp i can see if the button is pressed
L225[02:24:51] <Blue_595> i wanna make a keypad chip that has...
L226[02:24:59] <Blue_595> UP: Drive signals for the buttons
L227[02:25:04] <Blue_595> LEFT: Sense signals for the buttons
L228[02:25:15] <Blue_595> RIGHT: Output signals (state of each button)
L229[02:25:20] <Blue_595> DOWN: Reset all buttons
L230[02:25:56] <Klea​dron> i don't know how i feel about thermal expansion tbh
L231[02:26:04] <Blue_595> yeah
L232[02:26:14] <Klea​dron> i have it in my personal modpack for 1.7.10 but i'm debating removing it
L233[02:26:20] <Klea​dron> because i have buildcraft
L234[02:26:29] <Klea​dron> and one would take presidence over the other
L235[02:26:37] <Izaya> buildcraft has less magic machines
L236[02:27:00] <Klea​dron> buildcraft and ic2 classic are really all you need i guess
L237[02:27:14] <Klea​dron> also, logistics pipes?
L238[02:27:58] <Izaya> redpower 2
L239[02:28:20] <Klea​dron> man i wish redpower 2 wasn't development dead
L240[02:28:23] <Blue_595> logistics pipes are included in Project Red i think
L241[02:28:42] <Lizzy> the mod by the name of Logistics Pipes is not
L242[02:28:44] <Blue_595> yeah Transportation
L243[02:28:47] <Izaya> Eloraam is making their own game now, don'tcha know
L244[02:28:55] <Klea​dron> i do know
L245[02:29:00] <Klea​dron> isn't that redpower 3 though
L246[02:29:10] <Izaya> iunno
L247[02:29:12] <Lizzy> Redpower: The Game
L248[02:29:17] * Lizzy shrug
L249[02:29:24] <Izaya> Soon: Redpower: The Movie
L250[02:29:54] <Lizzy> hmm, damn it seems i cant easilly add routes to containers in the config
L251[02:30:12] <Klea​dron> i mainly just want a version of redpower 2 for 1.7.10 or newer, i like the computers it has as well
L252[02:30:26] <Lizzy> PRed is most of it
L253[02:30:32] <Lizzy> doesn't include the computers though
L254[02:30:42] <Lizzy> i think there was another mod that added forth based computers
L255[02:30:48] <Klea​dron> nedocomputers
L256[02:30:51] <Klea​dron> it's dead though isn't it
L257[02:31:30] <Izaya> dedocomputers
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L259[02:31:59] <Amanda> Retrocomputers
L260[02:32:10] <Klea​dron> that mod is too realistic
L261[02:32:14] <Amanda> Also dead though
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L263[02:32:23] <Blue_595> query Teris
L264[02:32:37] <Klea​dron> wait a second
L265[02:32:40] <Klea​dron> that's a different mod
L266[02:32:44] <Klea​dron> than what i was thinking
L267[02:32:49] <Teris> Ha
L268[02:32:51] <Teris> Haha
L269[02:32:58] <Klea​dron> it's just the redpower2 computer
L270[02:33:08] <Amanda> HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
L271[02:33:13] <Klea​dron> except, different architecture
L272[02:33:23] <Izaya> Present day, present time, hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha
L273[02:33:40] <Klea​dron> different architecture, and stolen art assets
L274[02:34:26] <Klea​dron> considering the update cycle of retro computers i wouldn't consider it dead
L275[02:34:30] <Klea​dron> just slow to update
L276[02:34:36] <Klea​dron> like how oc updates every half a year
L277[02:35:07] <Lizzy> oh, i do have a script that adds the custom ip routes for the containers that need it, it's just a one-shot deal
L278[02:35:26] <Klea​dron> it's very not dead actually http://tinyurl.com/ybuctc4u
L279[02:35:48] * Amanda yawns, curls up against Lizzy, contemplates a nap soon
L280[02:36:08] <Amanda> I see
L281[02:36:11] * Blue_595 pokes Amanda
L282[02:36:15] * Lizzy gives Amanda some scritches before going back to working on her server stuff
L283[02:36:19] <Lizzy> oh neat
L284[02:36:27] <Lizzy> proxmox supports zstd now
L285[02:36:32] <Amanda> I was going off the GitLab which didn't seem to have any commits
L286[02:36:47] <Amanda> S/commits/commits in a while/
L287[02:36:54] <Lizzy> aand backup failed
L288[02:36:58] <Lizzy> oh
L289[02:37:01] <Lizzy> cause max backup
L290[02:37:16] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/ybblrr7o
L291[02:37:19] <Sagh​etti> finally
L292[02:37:51] <Klea​dron> dimon
L293[02:38:31] <Blue_595> :D
L294[02:39:49] <Lizzy> hmm, i think zstd might also actually offer better compression for this than gzipping files. lets see...
L295[02:45:24] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i lzma everything
L296[02:45:52] <Blue_595> i buy another hard drive for every file i need
L297[02:47:11] <Blue_595> i like the "Spite Triangle" in NYC: https://pocket-syndicated-images.s3.amazonaws.com/5ea3170623977.jpg
L298[02:48:49] <Elfi> The spite triangle?
L299[02:49:19] <Blue_595> look at the picture
L300[02:49:30] <Blue_595> look at the super JPEG-y picture
L301[02:49:40] <Elfi> Yeah, I was just curious about the story. Looked it up though
L302[02:50:05] <Elfi> That's amusing
L303[02:50:11] <Blue_595> yeah
L304[03:01:04] <Lizzy> hmm, nice, even the sql container gets a small size decrease for it's backup
L305[03:01:17] <Lizzy> though it's still within the realm of margin of error
L306[03:07:13] * Lizzy sighs
L307[03:07:22] <Lizzy> yay for a backup locking up the backup storage
L308[03:07:31] <Lizzy> tbh probably ovh's fault
L309[03:10:07] <Lizzy> i wonder if the backup storage has died again
L310[03:10:53] <Lizzy> urghhh, i wish self-hosting wasn't so expensive compared to just renting stuff
L311[03:11:51] <Lizzy> oh, it finished
L312[03:12:21] <Lizzy> nice. a 2.8GB reduction on my second db node
L313[03:16:58] <Klea​dron> gigabyte per second opencomputers hard disk read speeds when
L314[03:17:07] <Klea​dron> yes, byte, not bit
L315[03:18:19] <Lizzy> when your average gamer pc gets high-speed ssds
L316[03:18:23] <Lizzy> or whatever
L317[03:25:50] <Ar​iri> Probably when there are ram disks too :P
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L319[03:26:51] <Lizzy> laptop why can't you see your wifi card?
L320[03:27:50] <Lizzy> hmm, will investigate later
L321[03:28:32] <Michiyo> Maybe it needs glasses?
L322[03:30:11] <Blue_595> hmm... what kind of card do i want to see?
L323[03:30:25] <Michiyo> The ace of spades?
L324[03:30:32] <Blue_595> computer card -_-
L325[03:30:37] <Michiyo> queen of hearts!
L326[03:30:43] <Blue_595> maybe the compute cards someone was talking about
L327[03:30:48] <Michiyo> An ISA VHS Backup card?
L328[03:31:47] <Blue_595> ive heard of that
L329[03:31:49] <Blue_595> the Backer
L330[03:31:57] <Blue_595> LGR did a video on that card
L331[03:32:26] <Blue_595> uh... i think i wanna see a Modem block (in Computronics) that turns network messages sent to it into audio signals, and vice versa
L332[03:32:28] <Michiyo> Yeah, I was around when those came out.
L333[03:33:20] <Blue_595> and they show a component (computronics_modem maybe) that has setHook() getHook() (connect/disconnect phone line) getAddress() and setEventName() functions
L334[03:34:58] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> did someone say compute cards?
L335[03:35:03] <Blue_595> :D
L336[03:35:09] <Blue_595> ill figure out my idea, and put it into a text document
L337[03:35:19] <Blue_595> then ill pop back and send the paste ID for that document
L338[03:38:34] <Lizzy> hmm, okay. so my home server (at least at it's current system load) can do packet routing and stuff as-fast or faster than the main router can, cause a speedtest can get the same results on one of my secondary vlans as one on the primary vlan (that has a more-or-less direct connection to the router)
L339[03:38:57] <Blue_595> throw out the router and put the server in its place :D
L340[03:38:59] <Lizzy> i'm also suprised the double-nat'ing isn't making things slower
L341[03:39:39] <Lizzy> i'm contemplating that
L342[03:40:14] <Blue_595> is there a way to make the phone lines (Computronics audio cables, or maybe its own cable) look like a network cable to the server rack GUI
L343[03:41:08] <Blue_595> fuck it im adding my own cable, and in fact the cards im thinking of will use the sides api and a "channel" number (line bundles: 16 lines)
L344[03:41:58] <Lizzy> at least now i know that the server (which rocks an AMD A10-6800K and a cheap-ish motherboard) can keep up with routing general internet traffic and i can use that to shove all the data through my server so we can calculate how much data we use
L345[03:42:26] <Blue_595> or maybe not the sides api, maybe just every single bundle attached to the rack
L346[03:44:43] <Blue_595> i remember a while ago i found a modem card in a very old computer
L347[03:44:49] <Blue_595> didnt know what it was, but now i know its a modem
L348[03:45:11] <Blue_595> thought it was PCI, but didnt know PCI didnt have as many connector sizes as PCIe
L349[03:45:24] <Blue_595> the connector i was actually looking at was called AMR (Audio/Modem Riser)
L350[03:45:38] <Blue_595> which explains why the circuitry on the card was so simple
L351[03:46:07] <Izaya> yup
L352[03:46:18] <Izaya> very disappointing tbh
L353[03:46:25] <Blue_595> not to mention it likely didnt even have a data pump on board
L354[03:46:27] <Blue_595> (softmodem)
L355[03:47:04] <Izaya> softmodems are my least favourite thing
L356[03:47:10] <Izaya> they called them winmodems for a reason
L357[03:47:18] <Izaya> due to the sheer lossage
L358[03:47:19] <Blue_595> you could at least go for a controllerless modem right?
L359[03:47:31] <Blue_595> where it has the datapump, but no microcontroller
L360[03:47:49] <Lizzy> hmm, what best to make a network diagram in
L361[03:47:56] <Blue_595> yes
L362[03:48:08] <Izaya> draw.io is alright
L363[03:48:23] <Blue_595> could never figure out LibreOffice Draw
L364[03:49:15] <Lizzy> draw.io looks like it'll work for what i need
L365[03:49:43] <Izaya> it has pictures from vendors too
L366[03:49:51] <Izaya> I have it running as part of my nextcloud instance
L367[03:49:53] <Izaya> very comfy
L368[03:50:04] <Blue_595> youll note the AMR connector has a USB port on it
L369[03:50:35] <Izaya> so one could make a USB card for it? :D
L370[03:51:10] <Blue_595> im sure someone did
L371[03:51:17] <Blue_595> made a combination audio/USB card for it
L372[03:51:32] <Izaya> the only box I have with an AMR connector is a dead VIA S3 machine
L373[03:52:12] <Blue_595> ok
L374[03:53:22] <Blue_595> does anyone understand the AC97 audio standard?
L375[03:53:52] <Blue_595> ok fair enough but why are there 4 data ins on the riser port
L376[03:54:15] <Blue_595> and why is there both a master clock and a bit clock
L377[03:57:21] <Lizzy> hmm, draw.io doesn't have an icon for networking mains plugs, so i'ma just use the ups icon and pretend that it's a network plug
L378[03:57:46] <Blue_595> :D
L379[03:57:47] * Izaya taps forehead
L380[04:02:20] <Izaya> https://tower.xyzzy.link/media/169216f9a506a8d4562dec4c729f2ebb4511dbc0168d4f747735be8820b29b34.png
L381[04:02:29] <Lizzy> wut
L382[04:02:32] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yes
L383[04:03:05] <Lizzy> that seems like the sort of thing that'd be done in one of my old work sites (it's been sold now so none of that old bodging has to be managed anymore
L384[04:03:16] <Izaya> )
L385[04:03:44] <Blue_595> :)
L386[04:04:36] <Blue_595> fun fact: that cable carries the internet connection for the entire building
L387[04:07:50] <Klea​dron> would be a shame if
L388[04:07:55] <Klea​dron> someone pissed on it
L389[04:08:00] <Blue_595> i did
L390[04:08:03] <Blue_595> i pissed on it
L391[04:08:11] <Ko​dos> Ahhh bodging.
L392[04:08:54] <Blue_595> i want to make a redstone network standard
L393[04:09:11] <Blue_595> im gonna use 8-bit identifiers
L394[04:09:13] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> no
L395[04:09:16] <Blue_595> and every packet is always gonna be 4 bytes
L396[04:09:32] <Blue_595> ok fine OC networking standard
L397[04:09:52] <Blue_595> built up v e r y s l o w l y
L398[04:10:37] <Klea​dron> it's alive http://tinyurl.com/y75tr5ad
L399[04:13:59] <Blue_595> ITS ALIVE!!!
L400[04:14:17] <Sagh​etti> where does one find a rubber tree
L401[04:14:18] <Sagh​etti> :(
L402[04:14:22] <Blue_595> youre gonna have a menu starting at the bottom and scrolling up, with an input bar at the bottom
L403[04:14:29] <Blue_595> i like it
L404[04:16:54] <Blue_595> also is that 80x25?
L405[04:16:57] <Blue_595> looks small for some reason
L406[04:17:31] <Klea​dron> that's just the T1 screen
L407[04:18:00] <Blue_595> invest in a T2 screen
L408[04:18:10] <Blue_595> itll look MUCH better, trust me
L409[04:19:16] <Klea​dron> i might use higher tier components in actual survival but right now i'm just getting the basics down
L410[04:19:50] <Blue_595> well its creative
L411[04:19:57] <Blue_595> so try out the components you want to use in survival
L412[04:20:51] <Klea​dron> i need to add a notification list for specific functions to be called when the computer receives an event and i need to add a way for system modules to be loaded and subscribe to that list
L413[04:21:01] <Blue_595> ?
L414[04:21:26] <Klea​dron> stuff will run in the background as event listeners
L415[04:22:30] <Klea​dron> so, if you have a password lock somewhere
L416[04:23:53] <Klea​dron> if it receives a keyboard event from the keyboard it will compare it to see if it's the main keyboard and also it will update all of the programs in the listener list
L417[04:24:10] <Klea​dron> if it's the main keyboard it will input to the prompt
L418[04:25:52] <Klea​dron> a system i can't explain well but is basically in every OS
L419[04:26:07] <Klea​dron> and i'm making my own specialized os for base management because screw u
L420[04:26:14] <Izaya> event distribution?
L421[04:26:20] <Klea​dron> yes
L422[04:26:23] <Blue_595> im working on my own base manager now
L423[04:26:28] <Blue_595> thanks Kleadron
L424[04:27:30] <Blue_595> but yeah invest in a T2 GPU and screen
L425[04:27:41] <Klea​dron> i might
L426[04:27:52] <Izaya> see
L427[04:27:57] <Izaya> if you design for T2
L428[04:27:59] <Blue_595> but yeah it looks so much better
L429[04:28:02] <Sagh​etti> aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAA
L430[04:28:03] <Sagh​etti> so
L431[04:28:07] <Izaya> you don't know it'll work nicely on a T1 device
L432[04:28:19] <Sagh​etti> there was a rubber tree, and i cut it down trying to get a rubber tree sapling
L433[04:28:22] <Sagh​etti> it dropped nothing
L434[04:28:33] <Sagh​etti> so now all i have is some rubber wood, but that won't work
L435[04:28:36] <Izaya> Saghetti: gotta remember to leave the top leaves and the trunk
L436[04:28:39] <Sagh​etti> and it took so long for me to find it
L437[04:28:49] <Sagh​etti> i'm such an idiot
L438[04:29:38] <Klea​dron> Izaya: nobody else should be running it and it would be designed for the hardware used in the base management computer in my minecraft base, so it really only needs to be able to run on the hardware i build it for
L439[04:29:50] <Izaya> ig
L440[04:30:07] <Izaya> I'm just saying, the brute force "upgrade it it'll be nicer" isn't always the best approach
L441[04:30:18] <Blue_595> youre building it once
L442[04:30:20] <Izaya> it's like how one should develop software to be fast on the slowest computer they have access to
L443[04:30:22] <Blue_595> only once just go ahead
L444[04:30:31] <Izaya> nobody does, but they should
L445[04:31:20] <Klea​dron> i make my videogame run on the pentium 4 computer i have
L446[04:31:42] <Klea​dron> because, that is what it's supposed to run on
L447[04:31:48] <Izaya> solid plan
L448[04:32:11] <Blue_595> im never using normal edit again
L449[04:33:01] <Izaya> I wonder whether the IdeaPad S10e or the Optiplex GX270 is slower
L450[04:33:30] <Izaya> 1.6Ghz 1C2T Atom vs 3Ghz 1C1T P4, could go either way
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L452[04:34:13] <Blue_595> try 1GHz 1C1T P4
L453[04:34:25] <Ocawesome101> o/
L454[04:34:38] <Izaya> Blue_595: the Atom would definitely be faster then
L455[04:34:46] <Izaya> probably nearly double the speed
L456[04:35:05] <Blue_595> try 1MHz 65C02
L457[04:35:14] <Izaya> still faster than a P4
L458[04:35:24] <Blue_595> try 16Hz Ben Eater Computer
L459[04:35:33] <Izaya> still faster than a P4
L460[04:35:42] <Blue_595> try my fucking 1Hz brain
L461[04:35:47] <Izaya> still faster than a P4
L462[04:35:50] <Klea​dron> the SMC 1.0
L463[04:36:00] <Klea​dron> (scrap mechanic computer)
L464[04:36:14] <Izaya> I was reading system management console
L465[04:36:17] <Klea​dron> yes, someone built a fully functioning computer in scrap mechanic
L466[04:36:18] <Blue_595> try the 120mHz DigiBlue 1
L467[04:36:19] <Klea​dron> oh
L468[04:36:21] <Klea​dron> lmao
L469[04:36:27] <Izaya> but it's probably still faster than a P4
L470[04:36:43] <Blue_595> Kleadron: i was gonna do that myself but i got confused when i was making the RAM
L471[04:37:14] <Klea​dron> i wanted to make one but i lost interest and had timing issues with the logic gates
L472[04:37:25] <Sagh​etti> welp
L473[04:37:34] <Sagh​etti> i've ventured 1.5k blocks from spawn
L474[04:37:37] <Blue_595> i wanted to make one because i saw a network adapter made in the same game
L475[04:37:41] <Sagh​etti> walking, of course, because there's no sprinting
L476[04:37:46] <Sagh​etti> no rubber trees :(
L477[04:37:54] <Izaya> sprinting is a lie
L478[04:37:55] <Ocawesome101> Saghetti: on what?
L479[04:38:02] <Izaya> fr though why is sprinting so broken
L480[04:38:06] <Sagh​etti> i'm calling it quits for today, i have actual programming projects and schoolwork to do
L481[04:38:13] <Sagh​etti> Ocawesome101: 2011 tekkit on b1.7.3
L482[04:38:17] <Ocawesome101> nice
L483[04:38:29] <Izaya> that's still technic innit
L484[04:38:38] <Blue_595> 0.0000004GB for the fucking moon
L485[04:38:41] <Blue_595> ?!
L486[04:38:53] <Sagh​etti> oh yeah, it's actually technic
L487[04:39:00] <Sagh​etti> i just assumed tekkit lol
L488[04:39:07] <Izaya> no bukkit involved back then
L489[04:39:21] <Sagh​etti> "Technic 3.1.1 Rebuild"
L490[04:39:25] ⇦ Quits: Backslash (~Backslash@d137-186-220-152.abhsia.telus.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L491[04:39:35] <Izaya> Blue_595: https://gameliberty.club/system/media_attachments/files/007/645/630/original/fe90cfe236274604.jpeg
L492[04:40:09] <Blue_595> i just learned about error 410
L493[04:40:11] <Blue_595> "gone"
L494[04:40:26] <Sagh​etti> variation of that meme that i also saw: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/690400636717498378/715696543369265244/FB_IMG_1590564806995.png
L495[04:40:32] <Blue_595> oh yeah i saw basically exactly that
L496[04:40:47] <Izaya> this one was good too
L497[04:40:50] <Izaya> https://gameliberty.club/system/media_attachments/files/007/639/304/original/9a72174d9803e95c.jpeg
L498[04:41:18] <Sagh​etti> imagine not programming in HolyC
L499[04:41:20] <Sagh​etti> couldn't not be me
L500[04:41:35] <Blue_595> the M 3 computer: https://cm-web-news-files.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2018/06/story-smallest-computer-content-2.jpg
L501[04:41:38] <Blue_595> absolutely incredible
L502[04:42:28] <Izaya> is that thing really turing complete
L503[04:42:34] <Blue_595> idk probably
L504[04:42:42] <Klea​dron> that grain of rice looks a little bit dirty
L505[04:42:55] <Blue_595> we must wash it again
L506[04:43:00] <Sagh​etti> yes, it is turing complete
L507[04:43:27] <Sagh​etti> https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/say-hello-worlds-tiniest-computer-michigan-micro-mote/
L508[04:43:55] <Blue_595> so instead of bond wires for power theres a tiny solar cell
L509[04:44:06] <Klea​dron> wow
L510[04:44:11] <Ocawesome101> nice
L511[04:44:26] <Blue_595> then how do you get data in and out
L512[04:44:28] <Sagh​etti> i saw one of them at the computer history museum
L513[04:44:32] <Sagh​etti> light
L514[04:44:40] <Blue_595> so theres also an LED?!
L515[04:44:49] <Blue_595> ah yes thats the thing right above the solar cell
L516[04:45:21] <Izaya> https://tower.xyzzy.link/media/0419755bfed9bce67d4756eca9529dd73b02ff950e1cb4c03b18a99423b83cc9.mp4
L517[04:45:34] <Sagh​etti> relatable
L518[04:46:26] <Blue_595> So here's your problem: You're a gamer.
L519[04:46:31] <Blue_595> i legitimately thought the video was longer
L520[04:46:34] <Sagh​etti> cool photos
L521[04:46:42] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/yam3zbq6
L522[04:46:48] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/ybsxd246
L523[04:47:00] <Sagh​etti> my huge hand for scale
L524[04:47:08] <Blue_595> wtf is that
L525[04:47:22] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/y8toq9q6
L526[04:47:24] <Blue_595> 1950s computer?!
L527[04:47:29] <Sagh​etti> 1961*
L528[04:47:36] <Sagh​etti> and it's just the control console
L529[04:47:42] <Blue_595> ????!?!?!@?!?!??!?>N#&*T(URT(^#^&&^#&*^#!@
L530[04:47:45] <Ocawesome101> dang
L531[04:47:55] <Izaya> bigge computer
L532[04:47:57] <Sagh​etti> also, here's a monstrosity that i saw while i was there
L533[04:48:17] <Sagh​etti> they had a bunch of old servers where they let guests put in and take out components
L534[04:48:21] <Sagh​etti> and i saw nightmare fule
L535[04:48:23] <Sagh​etti> fuel*
L536[04:48:24] <Blue_595> i love it
L537[04:48:30] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/y8n9g224
L538[04:48:30] <Blue_595> lemme see
L539[04:48:45] <Ocawesome101> that poor thing
L540[04:48:47] <Sagh​etti> it hurts to look at
L541[04:48:50] <Blue_595> YEAH THATS NIGHTMARE FUEL ALRIGHT
L542[04:49:00] <Izaya> please label gore as NSFW
L543[04:49:03] <Blue_595> maybe keep them away from the CPUs?
L544[04:49:03] <Sagh​etti> it internally pains me
L545[04:49:26] <Michiyo> AAAAAAAAAA
L546[04:49:45] <Sagh​etti> that cpu socket is straight out of hell
L547[04:50:14] <Sagh​etti> (sorry for posting the photo)
L548[04:50:17] <Klea​dron> nice, wtf happened there
L549[04:50:25] <Klea​dron> when can we do this in OC
L550[04:50:29] <Blue_595> :D
L551[04:50:33] <Sagh​etti> they let guests take out and put in components
L552[04:50:37] <Sagh​etti> and y'know guests
L553[04:50:38] <Izaya> I'm imagining
L554[04:50:39] <Izaya> like
L555[04:50:45] <Sagh​etti> there were like 6 year old kids here
L556[04:50:45] <Blue_595> fucking SATAN
L557[04:50:48] <Izaya> someone pushed the processor down
L558[04:50:50] <Izaya> and turned
L559[04:50:57] <Blue_595> i wanna see that museum now
L560[04:51:25] <Blue_595> show people how to handle CPUs there
L561[04:51:34] <Sagh​etti> https://computerhistory.org/
L562[04:51:37] <Blue_595> so they not only get to screw around, but also learn some PC building
L563[04:51:41] <Sagh​etti> very cool museum also
L564[04:51:48] <Sagh​etti> i went there last july
L565[04:52:31] <Izaya> well damn
L566[04:52:39] <Blue_595> ill go when this global pandemic is over
L567[04:52:40] <Izaya> I have nearly 6 months of data to feed into grafana
L568[04:52:58] <Izaya> I have had a maximum of 308GB free on my storage server in that time
L569[04:53:04] <CompanionCube> %loot
L570[04:53:05] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube: You get a loot box! It contains a very stale piece of pizza. (Junk)
L571[04:53:08] <Blue_595> do you get more attention if you bring your own Torx screwdriver?
L572[04:53:09] <Sagh​etti> heres another cool thing
L573[04:53:15] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/y9nr7xzc
L574[04:53:22] <Sagh​etti> printed on an ibm 1401
L575[04:53:26] <Sagh​etti> igaf if you guys know my name also
L576[04:53:46] <Sagh​etti> sorry that it's sideways
L577[04:53:59] <Blue_595> is that how the museum shows people in your room youve been there?
L578[04:54:14] <Blue_595> cuz thats awesome
L579[04:54:25] <Sagh​etti> it's like a souvenir that they give to guests
L580[04:54:27] <Sagh​etti> very cool
L581[04:54:35] <Blue_595> oh yeah souvenir
L582[04:54:38] <Blue_595> just remembered that word
L583[04:54:58] <Sagh​etti> i went to the ibm 1401 exhibit like 10 minutes before everyone else came there
L584[04:55:09] <Sagh​etti> so i got it before the crowd
L585[04:55:14] <Blue_595> so they have a working IBM 1401
L586[04:55:18] <Sagh​etti> yep
L587[04:55:21] <Blue_595> and not just the printer
L588[04:55:36] <Sagh​etti> they actually got 2, but one of them is sad and broken
L589[04:55:40] <Sagh​etti> used for spare parts
L590[04:55:44] <Klea​dron> http://tinyurl.com/yau95sug
L591[04:55:55] <Izaya> huh
L592[04:55:55] <Sagh​etti> also there's a photo of me holding a giant cable
L593[04:55:56] <CompanionCube> heh, this talk about museums reminds me of the currently-closed and suspended one in Seattle.
L594[04:55:56] <Blue_595> *Hey CHM, do you mind if I take a little chip from one of the boards?*
L595[04:56:04] <Klea​dron> well this is working fine
L596[04:56:07] <Izaya> my switch stopped recording traffic info quite a while ago
L597[04:56:12] <Sagh​etti> chip?
L598[04:56:15] <Sagh​etti> we dont have those
L599[04:56:20] <Sagh​etti> vacuum tubes, baby
L600[04:56:24] <Izaya> I'm guessing I forgot to copy run start
L601[04:56:27] <Blue_595> *could i take a triode*
L602[04:56:30] <Izaya> lmao
L603[04:56:41] <Blue_595> just a single triode tube though
L604[04:56:49] <Sagh​etti> but im not gonna post the photo yet
L605[04:56:53] <Sagh​etti> because that's a face reveal
L606[04:56:56] <Sagh​etti> maybe in like 6 years :P
L607[04:57:12] <Blue_595> you could put a blob over your face
L608[04:57:29] <Blue_595> i just wanna see the thicc cable
L609[04:57:31] <Sagh​etti> it's literally over my shoulder
L610[04:57:32] <Sagh​etti> sure ok
L611[04:57:50] * CompanionCube is likely to never do a facereveal
L612[04:58:10] * Blue_595 swears to not release this photo if it is sent directly to me
L613[05:00:08] <Blue_595> im making a funny-links document
L614[05:00:25] * Ocawesome101 will never do a face reveal
L615[05:00:40] * Ocawesome101 says that but already did it on youtube
L616[05:02:04] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/yabwgfqz
L617[05:02:23] <Sagh​etti> enjoy
L618[05:02:26] <Blue_595> yay
L619[05:02:39] <Sagh​etti> this cable weighs like 40 pounds
L620[05:02:47] <Sagh​etti> it's massive
L621[05:02:50] <Ocawesome101> **_dang_** that's a massive cable
L622[05:02:51] <Blue_595> hey thats your RIGHT arm
L623[05:03:03] <Blue_595> wait how many conductors is that
L624[05:03:14] <Sagh​etti> many
L625[05:04:08] <Sagh​etti> from the museum
L626[05:04:09] <Sagh​etti> also here's a photo of the printer http://tinyurl.com/y8x8qhs9
L627[05:04:16] <Sagh​etti> from the museum*
L628[05:04:23] <Ocawesome101> holy cow
L629[05:04:24] <Blue_595> hehe right arm reveal
L630[05:04:27] <Ocawesome101> that's huge
L631[05:04:33] <Sagh​etti> it makes the worst noise whenever you print
L632[05:04:37] <Blue_595> PRINTER
L633[05:04:42] <Sagh​etti> it's like screaming thermal printer on steroids
L634[05:04:43] <Klea​dron> why does the card icon for the relay represent a redstone card when it only accepts wireless cards?
L635[05:04:55] <Sagh​etti> my ears melted when i heard it
L636[05:05:03] <Klea​dron> http://tinyurl.com/yc2925nb
L637[05:05:10] <Sagh​etti> or is it dot matrix
L638[05:05:15] <Sagh​etti> idk at this point
L639[05:05:19] <Klea​dron> also nice printer
L640[05:05:20] <Sagh​etti> welp, time to do something productive with my life
L641[05:05:46] <Sagh​etti> i know, shocker
L642[05:08:07] <pay​onel> @Kleadron 🙂 interesting
L643[05:08:09] <Blue_595> good night everyone
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L645[05:11:25] <Michiyo> Width * Height array of color values (16384 entries for a default 128×128...)
L646[05:11:31] <Michiyo> This is going to be fun.
L647[05:13:32] <Michiyo> Going to have to get someone to write an image converter I suppose.
L648[05:13:36] <Izaya> jesus christ my db is so slow I had no idea
L649[05:14:39] <Michiyo> <_< Like.. how would I even.
L650[05:15:05] <Michiyo> printing text is one thing.. but ugh 16,384 array values..
L651[05:17:43] <Klea​dron> each a single character
L652[05:18:08] <Michiyo> an int between 0 and 51 actually, IIRC
L653[05:19:47] <Izaya> we devops now https://imgur.com/86ucUA3.png
L654[05:48:20] <SquidDev> %tonkout
L655[05:48:20] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Squi​dDev, you were not able to beat Squi​dDev's record of 15 hours, 25 minutes and 32 seconds this time. 13 hours, 30 minutes and 23 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 55 minutes and 8 seconds!
L656[05:49:09] <SquidDev> Haha, ughr.
L657[05:54:49] <Ocawesome101> %lua oink()
L658[05:54:49] <MichiBot> Oink record beaten by 5180 sec! New record is 25844 sec!
L659[05:56:15] <Michiyo> So...
L660[05:56:27] <Michiyo> *IS* a 16,384 value lua table insane?
L661[05:56:49] <Michiyo> like, a table that big of ints 0-51..
L662[05:57:27] <Michiyo> @payonel ^ if you're alive.
L663[05:58:11] <Michiyo> Or really like.. anyone. Wanna know before I put a lot of work into this.. lol
L664[06:00:18] <Ocawesome101> that's uh
L665[06:00:20] <Ocawesome101> huge
L666[06:00:59] <Michiyo> That's a 128x128 map
L667[06:03:14] <Ocawesome101> of what?
L668[06:03:36] <Sagh​etti> minecraft map art?
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L670[06:04:24] <Blue_595> Lua question: what's the difference between foo.bar() and foo:bar()
L671[06:04:32] <pay​onel> each value is a TValue (which is about 8 plus a padding byte, so generally 16 bytes), so that would be 262,144 bytes just for the values. the continous indexes are stored in a packed manner, and kept in a buffer for the table. there is very little extra data needed to keep the indexes; i.e. it is not linear in cost
L672[06:04:45] <Blue_595> i dont think that was a response to my question
L673[06:04:51] <Blue_595> im gonna ignore it
L674[06:04:53] <Michiyo> It was a response to *MY* question
L675[06:04:55] <Sagh​etti> its not directed to you
L676[06:04:57] <Sagh​etti> bruh
L677[06:05:00] <Blue_595> yeah
L678[06:05:07] <pay​onel> foo:bar() passes `foo` as a hidden field called `self` to foo.bar
L679[06:05:16] <Michiyo> And yes, Minecraft maps. Looking to add map printing to OpenPrinter
L680[06:05:32] <Blue_595> michiyo what did you ask
L681[06:05:32] <Sagh​etti> map printing?!
L682[06:05:34] <Sagh​etti> sounds epic
L683[06:05:41] <Blue_595> YES
L684[06:05:45] <Blue_595> and scanning maps!
L685[06:05:46] <pay​onel> blue_595: `foo.bar(foo)` is identical to `foo:bar()` in calling code
L686[06:05:47] <Michiyo> It's only my oldest feature request.
L687[06:05:53] <Sagh​etti> she was asking if she could have a huge table of integers
L688[06:05:57] <Sagh​etti> 16384 of em
L689[06:06:16] <Blue_595> wait what does the `self` variable do anyway
L690[06:06:21] <Michiyo> Maps are stored in a 16,384 array in NBT..
L691[06:06:23] <pay​onel> and in the function definition, you can either explicitly name self: `function foo.bar(self) ...end` or you can imply it with the same syntax: `function foo:bar() ... end`
L692[06:06:38] <Michiyo> easiest way to do that? slap that many characters into a table, and then convert that to a java array :P
L693[06:06:44] <Blue_595> well im never using self
L694[06:07:01] <Michiyo> So basically you'd take an image, convert it into a table, then throw it at the print function and it'd spit out a nice map
L695[06:07:14] <pay​onel> michiyo: was that enough info about the size?
L696[06:07:26] <Michiyo> Yeah, I think so
L697[06:07:32] <Sagh​etti> self is just a reference to the table that it was called from
L698[06:07:35] <Michiyo> Just as long as it's *possible* in OC
L699[06:07:37] <Blue_595> also https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/716139863187128330/1920px-IBM_1403_opened_up2.png what kind of capacity could you expect in one of those reel-to-reel drives?
L700[06:07:44] <Michiyo> like I don't wanna require t9 RAM or something :P
L701[06:07:46] <Sagh​etti> it allows you do do OOP, but kind of
L702[06:07:56] <Blue_595> well im not using self
L703[06:08:36] <Michiyo> Thanks @"payonel"
L704[06:08:48] <Blue_595> but yeah how much could those reel-to-reel tape drives in the background store?
L705[06:08:50] <Sagh​etti> Blue_595: 3MB of data storage
L706[06:08:55] <Blue_595> ooh
L707[06:09:04] <pay​onel> 🙂 you're welcome
L708[06:09:08] <Blue_595> my internal hard drive is about 150GB
L709[06:09:16] <Sagh​etti> or approx. 50,000 punch cards
L710[06:09:20] <pay​onel> blue_595: don't use `:` unless you need it
L711[06:09:54] <pay​onel> once you start using tables as "classes", then you should read about self and :
L712[06:10:09] <Sagh​etti> cough cough Wattana
L713[06:10:12] <pay​onel> once you need a hierarchy of types, read about metatables
L714[06:10:42] * Ocawesome101 is packaging Red Eclipse for aarch64
L715[06:10:53] <Ocawesome101> packaging/building
L716[06:11:01] <Ocawesome101> because aur
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L718[06:13:04] <Ocawesome101> > compressing package....
L719[06:13:11] <Ocawesome101> aaaaAAAAAaAAAAA
L720[06:14:07] <Ocawesome101> maybe running this on my aarch64 laptop wasn't such a good idea lol
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L722[06:17:44] <Sagh​etti> @Kleadron what were you making earlier?
L723[06:18:02] <Sagh​etti> was it a terminal that controls your entire base defense system?
L724[06:18:09] <Sagh​etti> if so, i want to do something like that
L725[06:18:40] <Klea​dron> Kleadron Software Base Management and Control System @Saghetti
L726[06:19:04] <Klea​dron> it manages the base and it allows you to control it
L727[06:20:01] <Ocawesome101> you don't say
L728[06:20:14] <Klea​dron> i named it like that because it reminds me of GLaDOS from portal, although it's a bit of a boring name "BMaCS"
L729[06:20:20] <pay​onel> anyone know precisely, how many ticks does it take for a piston to extend?
L730[06:21:11] <Ocawesome101> 1 iirc
L731[06:21:14] <Sagh​etti> OCLaDOCS
L732[06:21:19] <Sagh​etti> OCLaDOS*
L733[06:21:27] <Sagh​etti> i'll make that
L734[06:21:28] <Ocawesome101> there's a one tick delay when they extend but retraction is instant
L735[06:21:31] <Ocawesome101> iirc
L736[06:21:38] <Klea​dron> "OpenComputers Lifeform and Disk Operating System"
L737[06:21:42] <Klea​dron> wtf
L738[06:21:51] <pay​onel> i fixing our piston code 🙂
L739[06:21:56] <Sagh​etti> yeah what about it lol
L740[06:22:00] <pay​onel> 1. it's cool, and 2. it plays sounds 🙂
L741[06:22:05] <Klea​dron> >lifeform
L742[06:22:09] <Klea​dron> how are you going to manage that
L743[06:22:16] <Sagh​etti> ~~ai in oc~~
L744[06:22:21] <Klea​dron> oh god
L745[06:22:24] <Klea​dron> make it happen
L746[06:22:33] <pay​onel> well, it played a sound before. but not it's doing things vanilla-like
L747[06:23:22] <pay​onel> now*
L748[06:23:30] <Sagh​etti> torch is great, but it's written in 65% C
L749[06:23:40] <Sagh​etti> and only about 30% lua :(
L750[06:24:32] <Sagh​etti> idea: cheat my way there using http requests
L751[06:24:39] <Sagh​etti> not really as authentic though :(
L752[06:25:00] <Ocawesome101> just do something like adventure where it seems smart but isn't
L753[06:25:19] <Izaya> I've been thinking about writing a MUD in OC
L754[06:25:20] <Izaya> again
L755[06:25:37] <Sagh​etti> OCMUD2: electric bogaloo
L756[06:26:43] <Sagh​etti> i should make a %lua adventure.addObject
L757[06:27:07] <Ocawesome101> how do I redirect stdout/stderr to /dev/null in bash?
L758[06:27:08] <Sagh​etti> so you guys can add your own objects to adventure
L759[06:27:25] <pay​onel> stdout is fd 1, stderr is fd 2
L760[06:27:29] <Ocawesome101> mhm
L761[06:27:33] <Sagh​etti> &> /dev/null
L762[06:27:37] <Sagh​etti> for both
L763[06:27:39] <Ocawesome101> I tried that
L764[06:27:40] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> `cmd > /dev/null 2>&1`
L765[06:27:47] <Ocawesome101> it ran it in the background
L766[06:27:49] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> iirc
L767[06:27:51] <pay​onel> and `cmd 1>/dev/null 2>/dev/null` for individual redirects
L768[06:28:00] <pay​onel> and you can assign 2 to 1
L769[06:28:09] <pay​onel> `cmd >/dev/null 2>&1`
L770[06:28:10] <Ocawesome101> oop nvm it worked
L771[06:28:13] <pay​onel> there, 1 is implied
L772[06:28:36] <pay​onel> also, you can place the redirects anywhere in the shell line
L773[06:28:47] <pay​onel> note: openos supports all of that 🙂
L774[06:29:07] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i still need to make pipes work
L775[06:29:08] <Ocawesome101> fancy
L776[06:29:56] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> in tsuki that is
L777[06:30:01] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i need to make a lot of things work
L778[06:30:18] <Ocawesome101> why is red eclipse spamming `PIPE_FORMAT_B5G5R5X1_UNORM`
L779[06:30:25] <Ocawesome101> and what does it mean
L780[06:30:34] <Klea​dron> once i implement system extension support to my thing i should be able to easily add features like networking and storage device drivers to the system
L781[06:30:57] <Sagh​etti> so let me get this straight
L782[06:31:03] <Sagh​etti> it's a cluster of terminals and devices
L783[06:31:12] <Sagh​etti> network*
L784[06:31:38] <Klea​dron> are you speaking to me?
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L786[06:33:33] <Sagh​etti> ye
L787[06:33:57] <Tex> o/
L788[06:34:03] <Klea​dron> hello
L789[06:34:19] <Sagh​etti> sup
L790[06:35:47] <Tex> Has anyone messed around with running a wired network through a compact machine? I'm not sure which oc blocks are tile entities, nor how it would handle it. It's a little to late for me to check atm but it's been bugging me since I got it in my head
L791[06:36:32] <pay​onel> tex: there is an old reported bug about oc in compact machines
L792[06:36:42] <pay​onel> it's on my backlog, but i have not looked at it
L793[06:36:46] <Tex> Oh? What happened?
L794[06:36:55] <pay​onel> i dont recall
L795[06:37:03] <pay​onel> maybe the machine was off when they re-entered the dim
L796[06:37:52] <pay​onel> drones and moving robots have tile entity data
L797[06:38:07] <Tex> Hm, interesting
L798[06:39:01] <pay​onel> but besides that, we definitely use a variety of tile entity features
L799[06:39:27] <pay​onel> it's not just drones and robots, just pointing out those are the more obvious examples
L800[06:39:55] <Klea​dron> saghetti: i'm not exactly sure how i'm laying it out but one idea is i will have an internal network connected to the computer running BMaCS and it can use the network to communicate with microcontrollers and other devices, and/or i could try increasing the component limit a bunch using a server rack instead and just directly connect it to everything and have the computer manage everything itself
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L802[06:42:20] <Sagh​etti> funny thing
L803[06:42:25] <Sagh​etti> i was actually thinking of something like that
L804[06:42:41] <Sagh​etti> where you had wireless microcontrollers doing redstone stuff
L805[06:42:43] <Sagh​etti> fun stuff
L806[06:43:04] <Ocawesome101> well, dangit
L807[06:43:09] <Ocawesome101> redeclipse doesn't work at all
L808[06:43:19] <Tex> I had a similar idea, but it was for inventory management, trying to rebuild an ae2 system from the ground up
L809[06:43:21] <Ocawesome101> opens, then spams `PIPE_FORMAT_B5G5R5X1_UNORM`
L810[06:43:26] <Ocawesome101> constantly
L811[06:43:28] <Ocawesome101> to stdout
L812[06:44:10] <Sagh​etti> Tex: funny thing
L813[06:44:21] <Sagh​etti> i was trying to do poor man's AE using opencomputers and buildcraft
L814[06:45:37] <Tex> Try using xnet +compatibility mods, would probably be a little easier to manage on various levels
L815[06:49:17] <Thanos-​No Snap> I have buttons on a single screen block. Is it possible to increase the text size of the buttons, while keeping the size of the button the same? http://tinyurl.com/yb85mwrn
L816[06:49:50] <Sagh​etti> you can't modify text size really
L817[06:49:51] <Thanos-​No Snap> I could use a bigger screen, but I like having it on a single screen like that
L818[06:49:53] <Sagh​etti> it's all monospace
L819[06:50:48] <Thanos-​No Snap> yeah... thats what I thought
L820[06:52:05] <Tex> Would changing the resolution work?
L821[06:52:21] <Sagh​etti> how would it?
L822[06:52:29] <Sagh​etti> resolution is size in text characters
L823[06:52:38] <Tex> Ah, I see
L824[06:52:38] <Sagh​etti> ex: 80x25 means 80 chars wide, 25 tall
L825[06:52:48] <Thanos-​No Snap> nah it wouldn't
L826[06:52:52] <Sagh​etti> you can pack more text characters in, but you can't make the text bigger
L827[06:53:06] <Sagh​etti> you could make the text resolution smaller actually
L828[06:53:17] <Sagh​etti> and it would scale up the preview on the block
L829[06:53:22] <pay​onel> a smaller resolution has the same visual effect as increasing font size
L830[06:53:22] <Sagh​etti> but you get less chars
L831[06:53:34] <pay​onel> just note that all font is the same size
L832[06:53:41] <Sagh​etti> ^
L833[06:54:12] <pay​onel> you can either add screens, or use more chars to "draw" a large button
L834[06:55:00] <Thanos-​No Snap> Lol have to get closer anyways 😄 http://tinyurl.com/yaqrsvu8
L835[06:55:18] <Sagh​etti> that's a lot of RF o_O
L836[06:55:38] <Thanos-​No Snap> Yeah lmao, it is the openglasses addon
L837[06:56:10] <Sagh​etti> you see, some people actually use opencomputers for practical stuff
L838[06:56:12] <Sagh​etti> others
L839[06:56:14] <Sagh​etti> uh....
L840[06:56:32] <Thanos-​No Snap> 😄
L841[06:56:51] <Thanos-​No Snap> I find lua cumbersome to do other stuff
L842[06:56:58] <Sagh​etti> make useless shit and spend hours of their time debugging crazy programs
L843[06:57:16] <Sagh​etti> like some1 made a working JVM in OC LUA
L844[06:57:16] <MichiBot> Lua*
L845[06:57:23] <Sagh​etti> shutup michibot
L846[06:57:24] <Sagh​etti> caps lock
L847[06:57:26] <Klea​dron> do the buttons in a grid
L848[06:57:41] <Klea​dron> and then lower the resolution
L849[06:57:43] <Sagh​etti> %lua "LUA"
L850[06:57:43] <MichiBot> Lua*
L851[06:57:44] <MichiBot> LUA
L852[06:57:47] <Sagh​etti> heh
L853[06:58:33] <Thanos-​No Snap> Well people have fun with OC in their own ways I guess
L854[06:58:45] <Sagh​etti> meanwhile i'm making a microkernel
L855[06:58:56] <Sagh​etti> was making*
L856[06:59:00] <Sagh​etti> and a failed project to re-create GSM inside of OC
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L858[06:59:11] <Sagh​etti> that was fun
L859[06:59:17] <Tex> I wanna set up an oc challenge modpack to dick around in as my useless task
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L863[07:10:43] <Sagh​etti> also fun fact:
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L865[07:11:02] <Michiyo> Tex didn't wanna hear your fun fact.
L866[07:11:04] <Michiyo> :P
L867[07:11:06] <Sagh​etti> oh ok
L868[07:12:14] <Sagh​etti> to prevent collisions from sending a message at the same time on GSM, if a message send fails, it literally just waits a random amount of time before sending again
L869[07:13:44] <Ocawesome101> nice lmao
L870[07:13:53] <CompanionCube> isn't that just CSMA/CD
L871[07:14:26] <CompanionCube> ethernet does ~same thing even if collisions haven't happened in forever
L872[07:14:54] <Sagh​etti> cool
L873[07:16:08] <CompanionCube> (every computer having their own cable to the switch kinda obviates the whole thing, hence them not really happening)
L874[07:19:20] <CompanionCube> random fact: wifi uses the related csma/ca
L875[07:19:47] <Sagh​etti> maybe i should just do SMS for OCGSMv0
L876[07:20:03] <Sagh​etti> voice ain't gonna happen
L877[07:20:31] <Sagh​etti> version 0 because it's experimental and buggy
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L880[07:34:33] <Blue_595> sorry about that
L881[07:34:38] <Blue_595> my network driver gave up and i had to restart
L882[07:34:45] <Blue_595> and then i got distracted for a while
L883[07:35:42] <Blue_595> what was i gonna talk about?
L884[07:38:15] <Blue_595> uh...
L885[07:41:31] <Blue_595> yeah question about the project red illumar feedback buttons
L886[07:42:55] <Blue_595> if you feed them with a really fast clock (5Hz, 50% duty cycle)
L887[07:42:58] <Blue_595> do they
L888[07:43:05] <Blue_595> A: flicker really freaking fast
L889[07:43:09] <Blue_595> B: stay on continuously
L890[07:43:32] <Blue_595> if its B i can use it for a button matrix idea
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L892[07:44:05] <Blue_595> rip
L893[07:44:09] <Blue_595> is that how i died?
L894[07:45:57] <Blue_595> ive seen 380 second timeouts before
L895[07:45:59] <Blue_595> that was great
L896[07:54:54] <Blue_595> Starting June 1st, the state of Arizona will be reserved for incineration
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L898[07:59:56] <Blue_595> o/
L899[08:05:07] <Blue_595> minecraft color scheme is a bit infuriating
L900[08:05:43] <Blue_595> the second half is so close to being a slightly darker version of the first half
L901[08:05:49] <Blue_595> but then orange and cyan had to fuck that up
L902[08:07:19] <Blue_595> also where is Walter Min
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L904[08:14:32] <Sagh​etti> Blue_595: what
L905[08:14:44] <Blue_595> hi
L906[08:14:50] <Sagh​etti> hi
L907[08:15:05] <Blue_595> ok enough irl names, lets just call you Spaghetti
L908[08:15:14] <Blue_595> close enough that you know its for you
L909[08:15:25] <Sagh​etti> Ocawesome's real name is Orcinus orca
L910[08:15:26] <Sagh​etti> :P
L911[08:15:32] <Blue_595> but its impossible to ping him
L912[08:16:26] <Blue_595> "Look. You have a bike, I have a 15 ton truck. If we ram into eachother full speed, who do you think is gonna survive?
L913[08:16:28] <Blue_595> "
L914[08:17:09] <Tex> If we're going by shadowrun 5e rules, bike walks away while the truck gets flattened
L915[08:17:59] <Blue_595> if were going by irl rules, bike /rolls/ away since the truck driver was actually too polite to run the cyclist over
L916[08:18:30] <Blue_595> and there was a large line of cars behind the truck, so im assuming the cyclist wanted ALL OF THEM to move out of the way
L917[08:19:08] <Blue_595> and he (cyclist) has currently silenced himself on all social media, since hes the running joke of the town
L918[08:19:42] <Blue_595> actually not too polite, he threw the cyclist into a ditch
L919[08:20:23] <Blue_595> but the truck driver could've played tough with the line i put up there
L920[08:25:50] <Blue_595> To prove you are not a robot, please do my math homework.
L921[08:27:30] <Sagh​etti> no
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L923[08:34:03] <Blue_595> ok
L924[08:34:57] <Blue_595> best place to be a restaurant manager is france
L925[08:35:02] <Blue_595> Karen: The customer is king
L926[08:35:07] <Blue_595> Me: This is France, we decapitate kings
L927[08:35:18] <Inari> How do I get JEI to tell me which fuels a Railcraft boiler accepts
L928[08:35:28] <Inari> liquid fuels, specifically
L929[08:40:42] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/YjwmFAk raccooon~
L930[08:41:14] <Sagh​etti> tom nook
L931[08:41:25] <Inari> Tom Nook is a tanuki
L932[08:41:28] <Inari> Not a raccooon
L933[08:42:20] <Blue_595> :)
L934[08:42:21] <Sagh​etti> raccoon, racoon dog
L935[08:42:25] <Sagh​etti> same thing
L936[08:42:34] <Blue_595> T r a s h P a n d a
L937[08:43:23] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/y84hhln6
L938[08:44:05] <Blue_595> ey why is there an Arduino Mega in the corner
L939[08:44:18] <Sagh​etti> communicator parts
L940[08:44:22] <Blue_595> ah
L941[08:44:26] <Sagh​etti> have you not played ACNH?
L942[08:44:32] <Blue_595> no
L943[08:44:42] <Blue_595> i cant
L944[08:44:51] <Blue_595> my brother seems to own the FAMILY switch
L945[08:44:59] <Sagh​etti> idk why but the Arduino, out of all things, makes me laugh
L946[08:46:07] <Blue_595> id also expect like an ESP module or something
L947[08:47:45] <Blue_595> its a small weirdly shaped circuit board with an 8-pin chip, a few resistors (i think) and NO traces
L948[08:49:54] <Blue_595> exactly the same part every time
L949[08:50:13] <Blue_595> what is it, the RF amplifier and filter for the receiver?
L950[08:53:43] <Inari> @Saghetti actually very different and a misnomer
L951[08:53:59] <Blue_595> huh?
L952[08:54:07] <Sagh​etti> yeah ik
L953[08:54:13] <Blue_595> ?
L954[08:54:14] <Sagh​etti> i was just being sarcastic
L955[08:54:23] <Inari> %splash @Saghetti
L956[08:54:29] <MichiBot> You fling a molten unobtanium potion (New!) that splashes onto @Saghetti. @Saghetti feels slightly stronger.
L957[08:54:35] <Inari> :f
L958[08:54:47] <Sagh​etti> > raccoon, racoon dog
L959[08:54:47] <Sagh​etti> > same thing
L960[08:54:54] <Blue_595> oh
L961[08:54:55] <Blue_595> ok
L962[08:55:01] <Sagh​etti> what's what there referring to
L963[08:55:23] <Blue_595> why are there so many IDENTICAL communicator parts buried in beaches
L964[08:55:33] <Blue_595> what happened here?
L965[09:00:48] <Blue_595> Project Red expansion i want to see: programmables (adds an EEPROM block with a programmable address/data width and data field)
L966[09:07:40] <Blue_595> for my VICCP terminal idea, would it make sense to force every banner to be 5 lines?
L967[09:12:11] <Blue_595> wait where was the paste for shedit?
L968[09:13:40] <Blue_595> found it i think
L969[09:14:56] <Blue_595> one thousand lines of Lua
L970[09:15:20] <Blue_595> again editor doesnt like me pasting such large files
L971[09:15:49] <pay​onel> blue_595: pasting into oc screen?
L972[09:15:55] <pay​onel> yeah, there is a paste limit, i think it's in the configs
L973[09:16:02] <pay​onel> something like 1024 or whatever
L974[09:16:07] <pay​onel> + is default
L975[09:16:35] <pay​onel> yep, it's called `maxClipboard` and i was right, default is 1024
L976[09:19:37] <Blue_595> how do i find the value of $XDG_CONFIG_HOME
L977[09:24:26] <Blue_595> where does OCEmu normally save
L978[09:24:35] <Blue_595> inb4 read the readme
L979[09:24:40] <Blue_595> i did read the readme
L980[09:24:54] <Blue_595> for linux it says $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/ocemu or $HOME/.config/ocemu
L981[09:24:59] <Blue_595> neither of those exist
L982[09:34:29] <Blue_595> also ive decided to use the UI of the base control software by this guy
L983[09:36:37] <Inari> Hm
L984[09:36:37] <Blue_595> gonna try getting back into Phineas and Ferb
L985[09:37:36] <Inari> Is there a name for a datastructure which has mutliple sources with prioritised usage? So like.. I have 5 bank accounts and a priority on usage, so if I want to take $2000, it'll take it from account 1, if it can, or the biggest partial amount it can take from account 1, then moves on to account 2, and os on
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L988[09:40:28] <Blue_595> o/
L989[09:52:06] <pay​onel> @Inari that's called a priority queue
L990[09:52:50] <pay​onel> well, you could store the positive-balance accounts in a priority queue, and pop them when they're empty
L991[09:53:19] <Inari> Hmm
L992[09:53:26] <Inari> But queue would remove elements when they're used
L993[09:53:47] <pay​onel> i'm really tired
L994[09:53:50] <pay​onel> 🙂
L995[09:54:05] <Inari> I want them to stay, because, a banka ccount my get money added at some point
L996[09:54:08] <pay​onel> i would just keep two arrays, sorted by priority
L997[09:54:10] <Inari> Sleep :D
L998[09:54:24] <pay​onel> one array has accounts with positive balance, and when it goes negative, move it to the "zero balance" array
L999[09:54:36] <Inari> Sure
L1000[09:54:40] <Inari> But then you abstract that into a class
L1001[09:54:45] <Inari> And you need to call the calss something
L1002[09:54:46] <Inari> :D
L1003[09:54:48] <pay​onel> then another table that just keeps a ref to all accounts
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L1006[10:28:43] <Sap​hire> Beep
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L1008[10:29:07] <Forec​aster> boop
L1009[10:33:57] <Forec​aster> http://tinyurl.com/ydb6hmxr
L1010[10:34:56] <Forec​aster> pretty good
L1011[10:35:16] <Forec​aster> although I nearly got interdicted on the way
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L1014[10:39:39] <Forec​aster> I'm at 2.7 B credits
L1015[10:39:40] <Forec​aster> woo
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L1018[10:48:29] <ThatKidOnAnMCServer> Do I just talk now?
L1019[10:48:33] <ThatKidOnAnMCServer> Oh wow, that worked
L1020[10:48:53] <ThatKidOnAnMCServer> ?
L1021[10:51:04] <ThatKidOnAnMCServer> away
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L1023[11:10:27] <Forec​aster> okay...
L1024[11:10:45] <Forec​aster> I knew I had a project for MP2 already, and I had done something in it
L1025[11:10:56] <Forec​aster> but I expected there to be more that just... a menu
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L1027[11:16:21] <Blue_595> you heard my idea right?
L1028[11:16:40] <Blue_595> miniature IBM tape drive, scaled to use a compact cassette
L1029[11:22:06] <Blue_595> Status: Looking for good cassette deck mechanism on Amazon...
L1030[11:24:04] <Blue_595> how does $36.99 w/ Prime sound
L1031[11:27:15] <Blue_595> one problem: i cant find any screws in the pictures
L1032[11:28:28] <Blue_595> never mind, there's screws alright
L1033[11:29:14] <Blue_595> Size 0 Philips screws, but the P0 driver is at dads place
L1034[11:34:46] <Forec​aster> hrm
L1035[11:34:57] <Forec​aster> I'm going to have to rip this system apart and re-assemble it a bit
L1036[11:35:20] <Blue_595> carefully disassemble
L1037[11:35:22] <Forec​aster> there's a lot of redundant data being kept that needs to be compartmentalized
L1038[11:35:25] <Blue_595> then violently reassemble
L1039[11:36:53] <Blue_595> i like the purp belt cloob hoos
L1040[11:37:04] <Forec​aster> I need to split the current "files" table into a "files" table and an "updates" table for instance...
L1041[11:37:15] <Inari> @The_Stargazer you can change the order of operations for it to be more clear maybe. Generate a number between 0 and 35 (because 0-9 is 10 values, and a-z is 26 values, so you want a random number that can take on 36 values, with 0 included thats 0-35). Then add 48 to that to fit into the ascii code (because then 0 becomes 48, which is "0" in ascii). Finally check if the number is > 57, because
L1042[11:37:26] <Inari> then it's a-z, so add 7 to move it over the padding between 0-9 and a-z
L1043[11:37:43] <Forec​aster> he's still not here
L1044[11:38:03] <Inari> Why not
L1045[11:38:05] <Blue_595> i'll need the power cord since it doesn't seem to have a battery pack
L1046[11:38:13] <Forec​aster> how should I know
L1047[11:38:43] <Blue_595> a lot of chrome bits
L1048[11:38:51] <Blue_595> but if i take the screws i should be fine
L1049[11:40:11] <Blue_595> see these guys know black and chrome looks ok-ish
L1050[11:40:31] <Blue_595> but that isn't what IBM went with in 1961, so i can't reuse any part of the case
L1051[11:43:44] <Blue_595> the way they drew transistors back then is weird
L1052[11:46:04] <Blue_595> i kinda want to build a tribute to the 1401 (not a 1401 in any way, but another transistor-scale computer)
L1053[11:55:29] <Blue_595> well lets get designing then
L1054[11:56:03] <Blue_595> first up, the C l o c k
L1055[11:58:31] <Blue_595> whats a good clock speed, 5Hz?
L1056[12:01:45] <Wat​tana> Guys I played around with custom ENVs to restrict access to part of the kernel and I have discovered the art of local and _G
L1057[12:02:11] <Forec​aster> fun times
L1058[12:02:19] <Wat​tana> First I make all parts of the kernel private so that they wont show up in _G http://tinyurl.com/yb267qft
L1059[12:02:28] <Wat​tana> http://tinyurl.com/yb2da7h4
L1060[12:02:57] <Wat​tana> Then I make a custom ENV table that includes parts of the kernel that I want the app to be able to access and also include _G http://tinyurl.com/y8cunto2
L1061[12:03:19] <Wat​tana> How I can make ENV tables of various protection level
L1062[12:03:22] <Wat​tana> Now I can make ENV tables of various protection level [Edited]
L1063[12:06:48] <Blue_595> is this right: f=1/(ln(2)*(R2C1+R3C2))
L1064[12:06:56] <Blue_595> classic 2-transistor multivibrator
L1065[12:07:48] <Blue_595> and what are good values for R1 and R4
L1066[12:10:40] <Blue_595> just R1<R3 and R4<R2
L1067[12:13:25] <Blue_595> lets say 3.3k and 4.7u
L1068[12:15:17] <Blue_595> i hate facing north in the morning
L1069[12:25:15] <Forec​aster> turn around then
L1070[12:32:28] <Blue_595> the couch faces north
L1071[12:32:42] <Forec​aster> turn the couch!
L1072[12:32:52] <Blue_595> mom would be pissed
L1073[12:33:21] <Forec​aster> turn your mom
L1074[12:33:24] <Blue_595> it specifically has to face west as well because of the shape of this room
L1075[12:33:35] <Forec​aster> can't be mad if she can't see the couch
L1076[12:33:44] <Blue_595> which means its either an island in the room, or it blocks the door thats causing the problem
L1077[12:34:03] <Blue_595> anyway i decided to limit myself to 8 transistors per board, like the 1401'
L1078[12:42:54] <Kristo​pher38> Michiyo: are you online? Regarding your question to payonel earlier, I work with tables of that size, I can share some more info
L1079[12:57:05] <Blue_595> [Routing clock board...]
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L1081[13:13:04] * Amanda stirs awake, looks about
L1082[13:14:25] <Forec​aster> %sip
L1083[13:14:26] <MichiBot> You drink a dull violium potion (New!). The bottle turns into an unobtanium bow.
L1084[13:14:33] <Forec​aster> neat
L1085[13:14:58] <Amanda> [ the Unitated Nations of Earth invades @Forecaster to get the bow ]
L1086[13:15:06] <Forec​aster> ohno
L1087[13:17:47] <Forec​aster> `If the number is greater than maximal int value, mysqliinsertid() will return a string.`
L1088[13:18:03] <Forec​aster> That might be why the id is sometimes a string?
L1089[13:18:52] <Forec​aster> I'm unsure
L1090[13:19:23] <Forec​aster> the array is passed via curl and json-decoded and then re-encoded as json again
L1091[13:22:36] <Amanda> @Forecaster it's returning a sting of like, 25
L1092[13:22:52] <Forec​aster> oh, well I have no idea then
L1093[13:23:02] <Amanda> the _count variales are also strings
L1094[13:23:50] <Amanda> I'd say take a look at what's different between the patch_from return and the no patch_from return
L1095[13:24:08] <Amanda> because the patch_from returns ints as it should
L1096[13:24:24] <Forec​aster> eh, I'll be re-implementing most of this stuff anyway
L1097[13:32:31] <Forec​aster> hmm
L1098[13:32:55] <Forec​aster> keeping one entry for each physical file and having the actual updates separately seems more correct
L1099[13:33:04] <Forec​aster> but it's a major change from how it works currently...
L1100[13:56:59] <Forec​aster> this seems like a sensible structure http://tinyurl.com/ybf6p7u2
L1101[13:59:20] <Forec​aster> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/galehugeto
L1102[13:59:26] <Forec​aster> The current structure is more like that
L1103[14:00:57] <Forec​aster> if I recall correctly `lowentry` and `highentry` are the start and end indexes in the files table that are included in the tag
L1104[14:01:48] <Forec​aster> but I'm not sure that's even used since the `files` table has a `release_tag` column which contains the name of the tag they belong to
L1105[14:02:22] <Forec​aster> so I think it looks looks up the relevant files using that
L1106[14:41:00] * Lizzy yawn-meows loudly
L1107[14:41:14] <Forec​aster> Ahhh
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L1110[15:29:15] <Wat​tana> is it a good practice to use `self` as some sort of shorthand?
L1111[15:30:11] <Forec​aster> self?
L1112[15:30:19] <Forec​aster> self is unsure about this
L1113[15:30:40] <Kristo​pher38> shorthand for what
L1114[15:33:12] <Wat​tana> for the parent table of a function
L1115[15:33:41] <Wat​tana> something like this
L1116[15:33:41] <Wat​tana> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ihudifinix
L1117[15:34:22] <Forec​aster> that works I guess
L1118[15:34:42] <Wat​tana> Is it a good practice though?
L1119[15:34:42] <Forec​aster> (although that method should probably return true at the end if you want it to be consistant)
L1120[15:34:50] <B​ob> `object:method(...)` == `object.method(object,...)`
L1121[15:35:05] <B​ob> doesn't matter, but its shorter and more explanatory i guess
L1122[15:35:54] <Forec​aster> as it is now doing `if display.initialize() then` would always fail
L1123[15:36:05] <Kristo​pher38> yeah, you could say it's a good practice, use it
L1124[15:36:42] <Amanda> %choose microcontrollers or no
L1125[15:36:43] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: If I had a gold nugget for every time someone asked me about "no"
L1126[15:37:31] <Forec​aster> hm, that's a little too specific
L1127[15:45:45] <Amanda> what is?
L1128[15:47:52] <Forec​aster> the last response
L1129[15:48:08] <Forec​aster> doesn't really work with "no" does it
L1130[15:48:56] <Amanda> well,that was one of the options, so
L1131[15:49:06] <Amanda> I forgot that %choose doesn't have a minimum of 2
L1132[15:49:11] <Amanda> s/2/2 anymore
L1133[15:49:11] <MichiBot> <Amanda> I forgot that %choose doesn't have a minimum of 2 anymore
L1134[15:50:34] <Forec​aster> I know it was one of the options, I mean that the response is too specific
L1135[15:50:52] <Forec​aster> I dunno, might not be fixable
L1136[15:52:35] <Amanda> %choose t3 case or server rack
L1137[15:52:35] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Hold on tightly! "server rack" is a wild ride!
L1138[15:53:26] <Forec​aster> as usual she's not wrong :P
L1139[15:54:00] <Amanda> ... that's a no. I don't have any ender pearls, which server racks inexplicably need (through a wireless modem )
L1140[16:05:24] <Amanda> Damn still need pearls for an internet card
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L1142[16:15:35] <Bighea​dAmarok> Is Open computers gonna be 1.14.4
L1143[16:16:14] <Forec​aster> it will probably skip to 1.16 or whatever the latest is when it becomes time to update
L1144[16:19:45] <Bighea​dAmarok> When is that
L1145[16:20:04] <Forec​aster> if I knew that I would have said
L1146[16:20:12] <Inari> When all the planets align to spell out "OC"
L1147[17:33:17] * Amanda installs subliminal messages in all Inari's favourite songs to worship the cat goddesses
L1148[17:35:03] <Ar​iri> Forecaster saying “turn your mom” made me lol
L1149[17:35:04] <Ar​iri> I don’t know why
L1150[17:35:33] <Inari> Rude
L1151[17:36:16] <Amanda> When did he say that? O.o
L1152[17:37:28] <Inari> s/if i knew that I would have said/turn your mom/
L1153[17:37:34] <Inari> AS
L1154[17:37:44] <Inari> *sad
L1155[17:39:01] <Ar​iri> Amanda: http://tinyurl.com/ybayxn7c
L1156[17:39:02] * Inari applies permafrost scrub to Amanda's toe beans
L1157[17:39:28] <Amanda> ah
L1158[17:39:30] <Amanda> %bite Inari
L1159[17:39:31] <MichiBot> Ama​nda is biting In​ari for 1d6 => 1 damage!
L1160[17:39:37] <Inari> D:
L1161[17:39:41] <Inari> It's good fro yuor beans!
L1162[17:40:11] <Amanda> (x) doubt
L1163[17:44:12] <Ar​iri> time to spansh 20kly sttaight
L1164[17:44:26] <Amanda> mew?
L1165[17:44:58] <Amanda> hrm.
L1166[17:45:09] <Ar​iri> pre massjump when the space x launch happens
L1167[17:45:32] <Ar​iri> perseus reach expedition* in ED
L1168[17:46:01] <Amanda> I see
L1169[17:51:06] <Amanda> Hrm.
L1170[17:51:27] <Amanda> %8ball rejigger pxe for splitting payload and loader?
L1171[17:51:28] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Without a doubt
L1172[17:56:40] <Sagh​etti> fun fact for you nerds:
L1173[17:57:12] <Sagh​etti> the day one wii hardware didn't have any system software on it, so it required a system disc to boot up
L1174[17:57:36] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/y7cg2t6o
L1175[17:57:43] <Sagh​etti> this is what the boot screen looked likee
L1176[17:58:25] <Sagh​etti> nintendo said that if you saw this message, you need to return your wii for a new one
L1177[17:59:00] <Sagh​etti> so they tried to get rid of all of these, and there are almost none in existence now
L1178[18:00:14] <Ar​iri> starting out with a 68% fsd T-T
L1179[18:02:05] <Forec​aster> fun times
L1180[18:03:06] <DaCompu​terNerd> i guess they wanted to get rid of it since you could load other data
L1181[18:03:10] <DaCompu​terNerd> kinda fun though
L1182[18:03:24] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L1183[18:03:34] <Sagh​etti> these units were also shipped to game stores as kiosks
L1184[18:03:48] <Sagh​etti> so there are early pictures of those kiosks showing that screen
L1185[18:04:20] <Sagh​etti> also they have never found a copy of the startup disc
L1186[18:04:36] <Sagh​etti> either they weren't actually sent out, or were all lost to time
L1187[18:05:54] <t20kdc> to me the most likely explaination is that they figured it was easier to issue a recall than it was to make a bunch of Wii Startup Discs
L1188[18:06:15] <t20kdc> The Wii System Menu is in fact a Title
L1189[18:06:42] <Sagh​etti> and these were probably never meant to be in the hands of the public
L1190[18:07:11] <Sagh​etti> they just released some of these units to deal with day 1 sales
L1191[18:08:06] <Sagh​etti> either that or by launch day, the wii system software was completed before they got time to flash it onto all of the chips
L1192[18:08:21] <Amanda> Izaya: I gather you have an internet card? Any chance i can trade for one?
L1193[18:08:51] <Sagh​etti> on staricraft?
L1194[18:08:59] <Amanda> yup
L1195[18:09:16] <Elfi> Amandaaaaaa
L1196[18:09:23] <Elfi> I want lämp o:
L1197[18:09:35] * Amanda snuggles Elfi, configured her fur to produce light
L1198[18:09:39] <Elfi> aaaa <3
L1199[18:09:41] * Elfi snuggle!
L1200[18:10:05] <Ar​iri> gives Elfi an extra lamp for the road
L1201[18:10:11] <Elfi> Laaaaamp!
L1202[18:12:46] <Sagh​etti> cursed(?) idea: weird modular slot-based "os"
L1203[18:13:12] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> hm?
L1204[18:13:18] <Sagh​etti> you have 256 slots to put programs/services in
L1205[18:13:25] <Sagh​etti> when the os boots up, it initializes all of them in order
L1206[18:13:33] <Sagh​etti> loads them and calls init() or something
L1207[18:13:47] <Sagh​etti> and then after that, the OS only does scheduling
L1208[18:13:58] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> got a better cursed idea
L1209[18:13:58] <Sagh​etti> resuming the coroutines for all of them in order
L1210[18:14:23] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> slot based OS where you have slots you put flash memory cards in and those are your programs
L1211[18:14:24] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> B)
L1212[18:14:57] <Sagh​etti> so you could have slot 0: core library, slot 1: disk drivers, slot 2: network communication, slot 3: boot logging
L1213[18:14:58] <Sagh​etti> etc etc
L1214[18:15:32] <Sagh​etti> anyways, that's actually a cursed OS that i can get behind
L1215[18:15:41] <Sagh​etti> it sounds like fun
L1216[18:15:55] <Sagh​etti> would make for a good network based terminal
L1217[18:16:05] <Sagh​etti> simple and modular
L1218[18:17:27] <Sagh​etti> i'm making something to rival Kleadron's BMaCS
L1219[18:17:49] <Forec​aster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YFeE1eDlD0
L1220[18:17:53] <MichiBot> ☠️ How to be a Pirate ☠️ | length: 4m 49s | Likes: 9,957 Dislikes: 96 Views: 69,447 | by CGP Grey | Published On 30/5/2020
L1221[18:18:19] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> network distributed tsuki
L1222[18:18:21] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> B)
L1223[18:19:02] <Amanda> @Ariri there's still no recipies for MFFS modules, at least not the sphere / tube ones
L1224[18:19:50] <Ar​iri> hrmm okay, ill take a look and push a fix with your eio and the next patch
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L1226[18:19:58] <Amanda> kk. :3
L1227[18:20:22] <Amanda> It's just me and Inari on right meow, and I'm mostly just lounging about racked with indecision
L1228[18:20:36] <Sagh​etti> terrible acronym: MUCSaNOS
L1229[18:20:49] <Sagh​etti> multi user control system and network operating system
L1230[18:22:06] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> wait wait wait
L1231[18:22:07] <Ar​iri> Okie dokie, still spanshing but ill do it after the mass jump
L1232[18:22:18] <Amanda> kk
L1233[18:22:23] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> tsuki on a uc for only running programs
L1234[18:22:38] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> like
L1235[18:22:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> m u l t i t h r e a d d o r i f t u
L1236[18:22:53] <Sagh​etti> uClinux? more like uCtsuki
L1237[18:23:09] <Sagh​etti> yeah, that was one of my stupid ideas when i first came to #oc
L1238[18:23:25] <Sagh​etti> wire a ton of microcontrollers to a network
L1239[18:23:31] <Sagh​etti> use them as "processor cores"
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L1241[18:26:36] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> μ
L1242[18:26:54] <Sagh​etti> imagine using μ
L1243[18:27:26] <t20kdc> the problem is, communications in OC are so slow that it's not usually worth it
L1244[18:28:31] <Sagh​etti> yeah, that's what izaya said
L1245[18:28:31] <Sagh​etti> :(
L1246[18:28:54] <Kristo​pher38> and there are only 4 threads for running lua so there's no benefit with having more than 4 devices doing computations
L1247[18:28:56] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> that never stops me
L1248[18:29:36] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> tbh i might make a networked scheduler in Tsuki but that might require a rework of core libraries
L1249[18:29:37] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> hmm
L1250[18:29:49] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> nah
L1251[18:29:52] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 2much effort
L1252[18:32:15] <Sagh​etti> multi-user stuff is nice
L1253[18:32:40] <Sagh​etti> i'm gonna design my network control system to have a directory service and multi-user support
L1254[18:33:01] <Sagh​etti> so ex: you can choose users who can enable or disable certain redstone things
L1255[18:33:09] <Sagh​etti> also, should i do everything wireless?
L1256[18:34:32] <Amanda> %choose EIO condiuts?
L1257[18:34:32] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: "EIO condiuts?" doesn't really seem like a good idea right now.
L1258[18:34:41] <Amanda> curious.
L1259[18:36:24] <Amanda> Hrm
L1260[18:46:37] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> everything i make will probably be janked atop tsuki
L1261[18:54:54] <Forec​aster> %sip
L1262[18:54:55] <MichiBot> You drink a fiery grass potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! But Forec​aster's anti-virus routines destroy it.
L1263[18:55:02] <Forec​aster> phew
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L1265[19:03:38] <Blue_595> https://external-preview.redd.it/MZB2WzI4kc4Es1eh6ljhmQZNrURPLo-9LCa45oi0kkE.jpg?width=691&auto=webp&s=81f51b780d7801a72375b6f9a5fa35a16a94337f
L1266[19:16:18] <Ocawes​ome101> @Saghetti wireless is prob easier to sniff if you know modem addresses and the protocol
L1267[19:24:38] <Michiyo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIZsnKGV8TE
L1268[19:24:40] <MichiBot> Crew Demo-2 | length: 0 milliseconds | Likes: 305,575 Dislikes: 9,230 Views: 496,935 | by SpaceX | Published On 28/5/2020
L1269[19:25:42] <Michiyo> t- 57min
L1270[19:33:36] <Forec​aster> bah, why does Elite take so long to start now...
L1271[19:34:09] <Michiyo> at t- 48 weather is go \o/
L1272[19:39:04] <Forec​aster> 9 days until fleet carriers
L1273[19:39:10] <Forec​aster> gotta get the monies
L1274[19:53:49] <Ko​dos> I'm waiting on getting a fc until I get the money naturally.
L1275[19:54:17] <Ko​dos> Getting ready to fit a krait for exploration and science
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L1277[20:00:10] <Forec​aster> as opposed to wishing on a star? :P
L1278[20:00:44] <Forec​aster> it might work... there's a lot of stars
L1279[20:02:54] <Ar​iri> Michiyo: Hype!
L1280[20:07:30] <Sagh​etti> > length: 0 milliseconds
L1281[20:07:31] <Sagh​etti> hmmm
L1282[20:07:55] <Forec​aster> that means its a livestream
L1283[20:07:58] <Forec​aster> it doesn't have a length
L1284[20:07:59] <Sagh​etti> yeah ik
L1285[20:08:05] <Ar​iri> T-13 minutes
L1286[20:17:21] <Forec​aster> 6
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L1289[20:21:02] <Forec​aster> 2
L1290[20:21:53] <Forec​aster> 1m
L1291[20:21:56] <Michiyo> Under 1 minute!
L1292[20:22:23] <Ar​iri> 30 seconds!!!
L1293[20:22:57] <Michiyo> WOOOOOOOO
L1294[20:23:26] <Ar​iri> Liftoff!
L1295[20:23:28] <Ar​iri> Woohoo!
L1296[20:25:37] <Michiyo> Stage separation!
L1297[20:28:25] <Sagh​etti> very epiccccccc
L1298[20:28:36] <Ar​iri> entry burn soon!
L1299[20:28:48] <Ar​iri> i’m expecting a smooth touchdown like the last
L1300[20:29:33] <Ar​iri> what the geostat altitude again? 30km or something?
L1301[20:29:45] <Forec​aster> sounds about right
L1302[20:30:08] <Ar​iri> 10 seconds to entry burn
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L1304[20:32:38] <Michiyo> successful landing of the 1st stage
L1305[20:32:46] <Sagh​etti> :pogmega:
L1306[20:32:55] <pay​onel> linky?
L1307[20:33:15] <M​GR> https://youtu.be/21X5lGlDOfg
L1308[20:33:16] <MichiBot> NASA Live: Official Stream of NASA TV | length: 0 milliseconds | Likes: 544,844 Dislikes: 25,724 Views: 32,961,613 | by NASA | Published On 28/12/2018
L1309[20:34:35] <pay​onel> i need to play more kerbal
L1310[20:35:28] <Sagh​etti> dragon separation confirmed
L1311[20:40:45] <Ar​iri> that was a perfect landing
L1312[20:41:01] <Ar​iri> i was thoroughly pleased
L1313[20:48:22] <Klea​dron> that launch was awesome
L1314[20:49:52] <Kristo​pher38> I was like
L1315[20:49:52] <Kristo​pher38> :D
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L1318[20:50:53] <Ar​iri> It couldn’t have gone much smoother than that, totally worth the wait after the last scrub
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L1320[20:55:09] <CompanionCube> did look sweet
L1321[20:55:37] <Forec​aster> it certainly was a thing that went upwards
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L1323[20:59:20] <Klea​dron> http://tinyurl.com/y7hz56bx
L1324[21:01:31] <Ar​iri> %remindme 20m dracon config, eio tweak, mffs tweak, pmob sync, scripts check
L1325[21:01:32] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "dracon config, eio tweak, mffs tweak, pmob sync, scripts check" at 05/30/2020 01:21:31 PM
L1326[21:01:59] <Klea​dron> i'm getting a basic grasp of how stuff works in opencomputers when doing stuff like this
L1327[21:02:06] <Amanda> @payonel does OpenOS come with something to urlencode strings?
L1328[21:02:23] <pay​onel> no
L1329[21:02:51] <R​ph> I ported my image format thing to buffers
L1330[21:03:07] <R​ph> I observed anywhere from 0% to 70% performance improvement when playing video.
L1331[21:03:23] <R​ph> but I can't use it on a server because this required compiling OC from source lol
L1332[21:08:09] <Amanda> nyahahahaha
L1333[21:08:26] <Amanda> I can now mount a Nextcloud shared folder as a filesystem in OpenOS
L1334[21:08:40] <pay​onel> hahah, that's super cool
L1335[21:08:58] <Amanda> now I need to figure out directory listings...
L1336[21:09:25] <Amanda> oh.
L1337[21:09:38] <Amanda> NC returns a ZIP if it's a directory and you hit /download
L1338[21:10:43] <pay​onel> nc needs to wake up and realize not everyone wants to use a browser
L1339[21:11:01] <Klea​dron> some people want to use lua linux
L1340[21:11:03] <Klea​dron> >:(
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L1343[21:14:09] <Ocawes​ome101> @Rph why did you have to compile it?
L1344[21:14:25] <Kristo​pher38> he didn't
L1345[21:14:35] <Kristo​pher38> he doesn't have the build for the server side
L1346[21:14:45] <Ocawes​ome101> Oh
L1347[21:14:49] <Kristo​pher38> but probably downloaded from the build server for singleplayer
L1348[21:14:56] <R​ph> no, I compiled it from source
L1349[21:14:59] <Kristo​pher38> you did?
L1350[21:15:03] <R​ph> I didn't realise there is a build server lol
L1351[21:15:06] <Ocawes​ome101> Isn’t it the same jar for client/server?
L1352[21:15:09] <R​ph> yes it is
L1353[21:15:15] <R​ph> but the server owner probably won't add dev versions of mods
L1354[21:15:17] <Ocawes​ome101> https://ci.cil.li
L1355[21:15:27] <Kristo​pher38> for 1.7.10 it is, for 1.12 there are separate versions afaik?
L1356[21:15:59] <pay​onel> no?
L1357[21:16:04] <pay​onel> only 1 build
L1358[21:17:26] <R​ph> here is a video
L1359[21:17:27] <R​ph> http://tinyurl.com/y7o2zntp
L1360[21:17:49] <R​ph> I made it display time taken to render the full thing
L1361[21:17:57] <R​ph> on first file it went from 4.1 to 3.8
L1362[21:18:01] <R​ph> on second it went from 19.8 to 13.45
L1363[21:18:32] <R​ph> and this will probably get even better if I were to add copy operations as well as lossy compression
L1364[21:18:37] <pay​onel> yeah, you'll see the best results when comparing color changes
L1365[21:18:51] <R​ph> lossy = removing some detail with a lot of movement
L1366[21:18:58] <pay​onel> vram isn't going to slow down when you have color change. direct writes will
L1367[21:19:04] <R​ph> but I am very impressed with this
L1368[21:19:22] <R​ph> especially because I wrote the modified code on my laptop in a car in like 3 minutes
L1369[21:19:27] <R​ph> the performance improvement was essentially free
L1370[21:20:24] <pay​onel> @Rph and if it helps, you can use any gpu in the system to do this
L1371[21:20:33] <pay​onel> it doesn't have to be the primary gpu that the os is suing
L1372[21:20:36] <pay​onel> using*
L1373[21:20:43] <R​ph> sadly GPU calls appear to be blocking
L1374[21:20:51] <pay​onel> of course :/
L1375[21:21:18] <R​ph> I could do something like this
L1376[21:21:21] <R​ph> 2 computers attached to one screen
L1377[21:21:25] <R​ph> one rendering one half, other another
L1378[21:21:29] <R​ph> and then syncing the bitblt
L1379[21:21:31] <MichiBot> @Ariri REMINDER: dracon config, eio tweak, mffs tweak, pmob sync, scripts check
L1380[21:22:27] <pay​onel> @Rph what would you expect from a non-blocking gpu call?
L1381[21:22:43] <R​ph> I guess something like
L1382[21:22:47] <R​ph> first x calls in a second/tick are free
L1383[21:22:54] <pay​onel> they are
L1384[21:23:02] <R​ph> but there is a way to query how many you have left
L1385[21:23:06] <pay​onel> well, "free" as in, you're spending your "call budget"
L1386[21:23:15] <pay​onel> why?
L1387[21:23:21] <pay​onel> framerate control?
L1388[21:23:25] <R​ph> something like that
L1389[21:23:43] <pay​onel> and would you then choose to skip a frame?
L1390[21:23:49] <R​ph> for example
L1391[21:23:50] <ben_mkiv> oh this will lead to unexpected results for people who dont know
L1392[21:24:02] <R​ph> or I could only spend as much of the call budget as is allowed
L1393[21:24:06] <R​ph> and then yield to run other code
L1394[21:24:12] <R​ph> or spend a call budget for another gpu
L1395[21:24:27] <R​ph> because currently if I overspend the computer "blocks"
L1396[21:24:32] <R​ph> am I understanding this right?
L1397[21:25:22] <pay​onel> yes but i dont see how this matters, unless youre trying to build split frame rendering while preventing creen tearing?
L1398[21:25:34] <pay​onel> screen*
L1399[21:25:59] <pay​onel> except, btw, the part where you say "yield to run other code"
L1400[21:26:08] <pay​onel> not sure what you meant there
L1401[21:26:19] <Klea​dron> do something while the gpu is doing something
L1402[21:26:36] <Klea​dron> as in
L1403[21:26:44] <Klea​dron> when it exceeds the call budget and stops for a bit
L1404[21:27:27] <R​ph> doing this would probably be completely incompatible with OC's component logic though
L1405[21:27:48] <R​ph> and I guess I can somehow track the call budget internally in my code by counting how many calls I make
L1406[21:27:59] <pay​onel> it's not impossible
L1407[21:28:03] <Ocawes​ome101> I had the idea a while ago to make a GUI that limits its FPS to 10 in order to stay reasonably snappy
L1408[21:28:07] <pay​onel> i just need to see a reasonable and strong use case
L1409[21:28:32] <Kristo​pher38> @Rph ask asie, he did something along those lines, as in, calculating the call budget left for framerate control
L1410[21:28:34] <pay​onel> plus you then have to think about how to handle this from the user side
L1411[21:29:03] <pay​onel> if you async a gpu call, how do you get its result? what happens when you make other gpu calls? what happens when you try to use any other component with call budget? what if you make too many async calls? etc
L1412[21:29:18] <pay​onel> there is a huge space of feature that entails
L1413[21:29:28] <R​ph> yeah I realise
L1414[21:29:39] <R​ph> The framebuffer update is great
L1415[21:29:53] <R​ph> and I think this is enough for now, with optimisations stuff can already be made to run super fast
L1416[21:29:59] <pay​onel> at some point, your solution is to have multiple machines
L1417[21:30:04] <R​ph> yeah probably
L1418[21:30:07] <pay​onel> one that keeps render, one that does logic
L1419[21:30:16] <R​ph> I want to play video on a 16 screen array on a server
L1420[21:30:25] <ben_mkiv> yea, no
L1421[21:30:29] <ben_mkiv> xD
L1422[21:30:40] <pay​onel> ben_mkiv?
L1423[21:30:44] <R​ph> Its possible
L1424[21:30:46] <R​ph> but impractical
L1425[21:30:51] <R​ph> horribly impractical
L1426[21:30:53] <R​ph> but fun :)
L1427[21:30:54] <pay​onel> i really need some dew (mountain dew)
L1428[21:30:57] <ben_mkiv> it creates tons of packages to sync, doesnt it?
L1429[21:31:12] <pay​onel> so i'll be afk for about 30 min to run out among the zombie hord (i.e. real world)
L1430[21:31:29] <Klea​dron> stay safe
L1431[21:31:32] <R​ph> in addition to the fun of playing video I would also receive the fun of tick time lag?
L1432[21:31:51] <pay​onel> ben_mkiv it would. maybe don't use modem messages, but redstone? maybe don't sync messages every tick?
L1433[21:31:58] <pay​onel> anyways, one problem at a time
L1434[21:32:08] <Corded> * <pay​onel> is afk
L1435[21:32:12] <pay​onel> + for dew
L1436[21:32:46] <R​ph> I would probably do it like so: Every computer renders to a framebuffer and then a master computer sends a modem message
L1437[21:33:04] <R​ph> then they all blit to their respective screens
L1438[21:33:07] <R​ph> and move on to the next frame
L1439[21:33:18] <Klea​dron> my basic operating system is actually going along pretty smoothly despite me not building it to be a proper one like every other OS
L1440[21:33:59] <Klea​dron> i already have "system extentions" which are just programs ran on startup and can add their own commands or listen for events
L1441[21:34:37] <Klea​dron> and i kind of understand how filesystems work now
L1442[21:35:12] <R​ph> I never bothered to finish making an OS because OpenOS just works
L1443[21:35:24] <R​ph> and in cases it doesn't, a tiny baremetal eeprom program usually works
L1444[21:35:30] <Kristo​pher38> doing calculations like that on other machines and then sending that over the network is too inefficient
L1445[21:35:39] <Kristo​pher38> as in, passing network messages
L1446[21:35:48] <R​ph> what do you mean?
L1447[21:35:53] <R​ph> Every machine ahs its own video file
L1448[21:35:55] <R​ph> for its own subscreen
L1449[21:36:08] <R​ph> And they have "sync points" after every frame
L1450[21:36:16] <R​ph> basically, render frame to vram and wait for modem message
L1451[21:37:57] <Klea​dron> so does the modem message just tell the machines to advance to the next image
L1452[21:38:26] <Klea​dron> makes sense
L1453[21:39:01] <R​ph> yes
L1454[21:41:20] <Klea​dron> t1 server rack looks pretty good
L1455[21:42:55] <Klea​dron> holy crap the t3 one requires 6 diamonds
L1456[21:55:33] <Forec​aster> do you mean the server blades?
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L1458[21:59:47] <Klea​dron> what server blades
L1459[21:59:49] <Klea​dron> no
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L1461[22:00:43] <Klea​dron> i meant the server, not the rack
L1462[22:00:46] <Klea​dron> damnit
L1463[22:01:35] <Klea​dron> if you're calling them blades they are the dullest blades i have ever laid my eyes on
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L1465[22:02:50] <Forec​aster> I can't tell if you're joking or not
L1466[22:05:07] <Klea​dron> i am
L1467[22:17:02] *** xarses_ is now known as xarses
L1468[22:22:54] <Ocawes​ome101> Well I got my arch install to boot, now to make it boot automatically with some grub hackery lmao
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L1470[22:26:05] <Sagh​etti> AAAAAAAA http://tinyurl.com/y95a2ja9
L1471[22:26:06] <Sagh​etti> FINALLY
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L1473[22:30:42] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/yabt675s
L1474[22:30:52] <Sagh​etti> we in business now bois
L1475[22:31:19] <Ocawes​ome101> Is there no `yay` package in vanilla Arch? Or am I missing something?
L1476[22:31:36] <Sagh​etti> oh god
L1477[22:31:38] <Sagh​etti> it moves so slow
L1478[22:31:39] <Klea​dron> building craft
L1479[22:31:56] <Sagh​etti> buildcraft for b1.7.3
L1480[22:35:55] <Sagh​etti> this thing is running on 2 stirling engines lol
L1481[22:35:59] <Sagh​etti> it moves so slowly
L1482[22:36:51] <t20kdc> Ocawesome101: yes, `yay` is an AUR package; you need to git clone the AUR repo for yay, then use makepkg (which you can get in vanilla arch)
L1483[22:42:18] <SquidDev> %tonkout
L1484[22:42:19] <MichiBot> Sard! Squi​dDev! You beat your own previous record of 15 hours, 25 minutes and 32 seconds (By 1 hour, 28 minutes and 26 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1485[22:42:20] <MichiBot> Squi​dDev has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.016 tonk points! plus 0.03 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.8129, Position #3 Need 0.01032 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L1486[22:42:24] <SquidDev> Finally!
L1487[22:42:35] <SquidDev> Been wanting to get rid of that for ages :/.
L1488[22:43:24] <Lizzy> %tonk
L1489[22:43:25] <MichiBot> Voldemort! Li​zzy! You beat Squi​dDev's previous record of <0 (By 1 minute and 6 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1490[22:43:26] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 1 minute and 6 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00002 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need 0.11478 more points to pass Squi​dDev!
L1491[22:43:37] * Amanda collapses into a pile of floof, exhausted from moving heavy things around
L1492[22:43:51] * Lizzy picks up the pile of Amanda and places her on her lap
L1493[22:43:55] <Amanda> New Window AC unit installed though, just need to wait for the cold-gas to settle
L1494[22:43:56] <Forec​aster> %pet Amanda
L1495[22:43:57] * Lizzy then pets the Amanda
L1496[22:43:58] <MichiBot> Forec​aster is brushing Amanda with pasta un-maker. Amanda regains 1d4 => 2 hit points! Pasta un-maker met a Pikachu and was shocked.
L1497[22:44:06] <Thanos-​No Snap> It is getting hawt
L1498[22:44:06] <Amanda> %remindme 1h turn on cold-machine
L1499[22:44:07] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "turn on cold-machine" at 05/30/2020 03:44:07 PM
L1500[22:47:33] <Kristo​pher38> @Saghetti better come over to the raiding server
L1501[22:48:30] <Forec​aster> I had to turn on my fan today
L1502[22:59:36] <Sagh​etti> i just had a brainwave
L1503[22:59:41] <Sagh​etti> use lava to power my quarry
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L1507[23:12:22] <Blue_595> its really hot outside today
L1508[23:12:59] <Blue_595> from 14:24:40 this day
L1509[23:13:02] <Michiyo> cool and rainy today
L1510[23:13:03] <Blue_595> > length: 0 milliseconds
L1511[23:13:11] <Blue_595> well done SpaceX you made the impossible video
L1512[23:13:21] <Amanda> then so has @Forecaster. :D
L1513[23:13:39] <Blue_595> oh
L1514[23:13:52] <Blue_595> anyway its hot outside in Florida (where i live) so im just gonna play minecraft
L1515[23:13:59] <Michiyo> I didn't realize streaming was impossible.
L1516[23:14:26] <Michiyo> I'm very glad it was clear in Florida today lol
L1517[23:16:04] <Blue_595> gonna try a survival playthrough
L1518[23:16:13] <Blue_595> bed is a certain priority, because phantoms
L1519[23:16:55] <Amanda> nyahahahahaha, lilac is up and running on StariCraft 2
L1520[23:16:57] <Amanda> s/2/
L1521[23:16:59] <Amanda> s/2//
L1522[23:17:01] <MichiBot> <Amanda> s//
L1523[23:17:04] <Blue_595> [Generating world...]
L1524[23:17:06] <Amanda> meh
L1525[23:17:57] <Blue_595> i spawned on a tiny island
L1526[23:18:06] <Blue_595> this is a terrible seed
L1527[23:18:23] <Blue_595> -5546733527447265209 dont use this
L1528[23:18:37] <Amanda> what MC version?
L1529[23:18:39] <Amanda> what mods
L1530[23:18:41] <Amanda> etc
L1531[23:18:43] <Blue_595> 1.14.4
L1532[23:18:45] <Blue_595> no mods
L1533[23:18:47] <Blue_595> etc
L1534[23:18:51] * Michiyo makes that the default seed for all Minecraft worlds
L1535[23:19:02] <Mr_Cre​eper543> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/cigigosuli
L1536[23:19:17] <Blue_595> time to get some Wud
L1537[23:20:13] <Mr_Cre​eper543> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/dupecocadi
L1538[23:21:05] <Mr_Cre​eper543> f*s! That's the second time I have done that, I hope nobody saw that. At some point I will send this when I mean too and now halfway though typing it
L1539[23:21:22] <Michiyo> Everyone on IRC saw it, and will continue to see it
L1540[23:21:27] <Michiyo> also, it's logged.
L1541[23:21:50] <Mr_Cre​eper543> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/opazofemuc
L1542[23:21:58] <Amanda> SquidDev: how hard would it be to embed urn as a "Scripting" thing inside a larger lua program?
L1543[23:22:36] <Blue_595> might as well loot an ENTIRE island before finding the next one
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L1546[23:24:58] <B​ob> @Mr_Creeper543 what kind of AI
L1547[23:26:05] <Mr_Cre​eper543> One that can run the facility... if it sees something that I don't (like the reactor field failing, or the energy core getting too full) it can respond quicker than I ever could
L1548[23:27:06] <B​ob> `if` conditions
L1549[23:27:08] <B​ob> AI lmfao
L1550[23:27:21] <Amanda> don't be rude, @Bob
L1551[23:27:21] <Mr_Cre​eper543> It was a joke, as cool as it would be I would never in a million years be able to code it... and I doubt it's possible in as small memory as an OC computer
L1552[23:27:27] <B​ob> just constantly check and sanity of each component
L1553[23:27:48] <B​ob> by component i mean MC system (like a reactor)
L1554[23:28:05] <Mr_Cre​eper543> Thats what I plan to do
L1555[23:28:05] <Amanda> an awful lot of real "AI" can be boiled down to ifs or switches
L1556[23:28:42] <Mr_Cre​eper543> Yeah... sadly
L1557[23:29:18] <B​ob> it needs a better name than AI
L1558[23:29:30] <Mr_Cre​eper543> How about
L1559[23:29:48] <Mr_Cre​eper543> Artificial intelligence
L1560[23:29:49] <Amanda> that's the common parlance of AI, you can't reallychangr that
L1561[23:30:01] <Sagh​etti> ai is just ifelseifelseifelseifelseifelse
L1562[23:30:13] <Mr_Cre​eper543> Or, as I would call it
L1563[23:30:24] <Mr_Cre​eper543> my only friend
L1564[23:30:43] <Amanda> Eventually, when you're older, you'll realise that it doesn't matter if something's "WRONG" once it maks it into the shared consiousness of the masses, it's not worth it to fight
L1565[23:31:03] <B​ob> NAI
L1566[23:31:21] <Mr_Cre​eper543> Well, my GMod crashed... time to play MC again!
L1567[23:33:41] * Saphire puts hornband on Amanda
L1568[23:34:07] <Amanda> mew?
L1569[23:35:23] <Mr_Cre​eper543> What's the invite code to the discord?
L1570[23:35:31] <B​ob> %discord
L1571[23:35:32] <Kristo​pher38> %discord
L1572[23:35:32] <MichiBot> Kristo​​pher38: https://discord.gg/0hVukoQ2KYm2aoXh
L1573[23:35:33] <MichiBot> B​​ob: https://discord.gg/0hVukoQ2KYm2aoXh
L1574[23:35:39] <B​ob> :GWlulurdWaitWhat:
L1575[23:35:45] <Mr_Cre​eper543> 666 members!
L1576[23:35:46] <B​ob> @Kristopher38 cheater
L1577[23:35:48] <Mr_Cre​eper543> oh no
L1578[23:44:08] <MichiBot> Amanda REMINDER: turn on cold-machine
L1579[23:44:30] <Blue_595> 237, 100
L1580[23:44:33] <Blue_595> remember those for me
L1581[23:44:38] <Izaya> Amanda: I only had the materials for one but I'm happy to let you borrow it
L1582[23:44:56] <Amanda> Izaya: I managed to get some ender pearls off Stargazer
L1583[23:45:06] <Izaya> ah cool
L1584[23:50:33] <Sagh​etti> man, i need to play on staricraft
L1585[23:50:39] <Sagh​etti> do we have a mod list?
L1586[23:51:48] <Izaya> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/MaTC7aepeaZWYEG
L1587[23:52:25] <Sagh​etti> staricraft - new beginnings
L1588[23:52:27] <Sagh​etti> right?
L1589[23:52:40] <Izaya> yeah the zips import straight into multimc
L1590[23:52:49] <Izaya> may need to chmod +x the updater
L1591[23:54:26] <pay​onel> izaya: can an mmc import also import a pre-launch action?
L1592[23:54:34] <Michiyo> It can
L1593[23:54:41] <pay​onel> fancy
L1594[23:54:52] <Michiyo> I've distro'd my pack with a pre-launch pack updater
L1595[23:55:07] <Lizzy> the zips are basically just a zip of a regular multimc instance
L1596[23:56:35] <Sagh​etti> i have a decision to make
L1597[23:56:42] <Lizzy> 4
L1598[23:56:42] <Sagh​etti> staricraft or orca raiding server
L1599[23:57:14] <Sagh​etti> thx
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