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L2[00:07:27] <Klea​dron> well this is a good start for the 7th time http://tinyurl.com/yantu8q2
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L5[00:12:44] <pwnagepineapple> Izaya: You wrote Minitel, right? Any chance you'd be willing to help with my packet loss problems?
L6[00:13:13] <AmandaC> is the middle mchine configured to relay?
L7[00:13:19] <AmandaC> ISTR it's disabled by default
L8[00:13:27] <pwnagepineapple> Both middle machines are configured to route packets
L9[00:13:53] <Kristo​pher38> it's early morning in australia, Izaya might be asleep
L10[00:16:50] <AmandaC> %choose scrap or cubes
L11[00:16:50] <MichiBot> Ama​ndaC: I've heard "cubes" is in these days
L12[00:19:43] <pwnagepineapple> The weird thing is that I seem to be getting partial packet loss
L13[00:20:17] <pwnagepineapple> I lose more packets the further I get from the transmitting computer
L14[00:21:08] <Klea​dron> you know what would be fun
L15[00:21:23] <Klea​dron> remember the intermediary mod for 1.7.10 that allowed you to load 1.2.5 mods
L16[00:21:36] <Klea​dron> what about a version of that for 1.12.2+ that loads 1.7.10 mods :)
L17[00:21:47] <pwnagepineapple> ooooh
L18[00:24:10] <Sagh​etti> ooooooooh
L19[00:24:24] <Sagh​etti> wait
L20[00:24:43] <Sagh​etti> could you use that to load 1.2.5 mods on 1.12?
L21[00:25:18] <Klea​dron> are you suggesting using the 1.7.10 loader in 1.12.2 to use the mod that loads 1.2.5 mods in 1.7.10
L22[00:25:42] <Klea​dron> that's large cranium
L23[00:25:54] <Sagh​etti> giga skull
L24[00:37:00] <pwnagepineapple> Ok the two relays communicate just fine
L25[00:37:13] <pwnagepineapple> And each computer can communicate with the nearest relay
L26[00:38:10] <pwnagepineapple> But the moment I go from computer to relay to relay, I lose comms
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L28[00:50:42] <pwnagepineapple> Ok I did something that helped get info, but now I'm running into duplicate packets
L29[00:51:20] <pwnagepineapple> It currently looks like the acknowledgement packet is never making its way back to the transmitter, so it's sending repeats until it times out, and the reciever gets all these repeats
L30[00:52:47] <Brisingr​Aerowing> You might need to set up static routes.
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L34[01:11:31] <pwnagepineapple> I did it!
L35[01:11:43] <pwnagepineapple> I rebooted every machine in the chain to clear the route caches
L36[01:14:18] <pwnagepineapple> And it appears I have spoken too soon
L37[01:14:29] <pwnagepineapple> It sent one packet correctly then died
L38[01:15:24] <AmandaC> There's an option to turn off the cache I believe
L39[01:17:01] <pwnagepineapple> Any idea why it worked the first time but then immediately went back to the previous behavior?
L40[01:20:21] <pwnagepineapple> And how does adding static route work?
L41[01:20:38] <pwnagepineapple> I know there's an RC command to do it, but idk what the parameters are
L42[01:21:43] <Ocawes​ome101> oooo, got plan 9 in vbox http://tinyurl.com/yajm4chc
L43[01:23:30] <Kristo​pher38> nice\
L44[01:23:31] <Kristo​pher38> nice [Edited]
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L46[01:23:49] <Ocawes​ome101> it's... interesting
L47[01:23:54] <Ocawes​ome101> definitely not what I'm used to
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L49[01:30:47] <Kristo​pher38> @Ocawesome101 yeah, I told you already before that thistle works on 1.12 https://discordapp.com/channels/125649403162656768/125649403162656768/685669687140679742
L50[01:31:10] <Ocawes​ome101> nice thanks
L51[01:34:03] <Kristo​pher38> I still haven't tried coding anything for it
L52[01:35:22] <Kristo​pher38> I need to get my programming environment running with cc65
L53[01:35:40] <Kristo​pher38> I wonder what it would be like to write in C, even more so for a very specific system like this
L54[01:39:48] <Ocawes​ome101> well that's encouraging
L55[01:39:57] <Ocawes​ome101> I installed it, rebooted, and got a kernel panic
L56[01:40:25] <Kristo​pher38> uh... thistle?
L57[01:40:48] <Ocawes​ome101> no
L58[01:40:49] <Ocawes​ome101> p9
L59[01:41:24] <Ocawes​ome101> ffs how am I supposed to boot it
L60[01:49:24] <Kristo​pher38> oh boy I sure would love to know a recipe for the trading upgrade without browsing the mod's source code
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L62[02:02:42] <The_St​argazer> world uploaded, pregen complete, etc etc
L63[02:02:49] <The_St​argazer> now I'm just waiting on ariri to do the rest
L64[02:02:57] <Ocawes​ome101> well neat
L65[02:03:03] <Ocawes​ome101> plan9 is a very neat system
L66[02:03:09] <Ocawes​ome101> I think I've got the original Bell Labs one too
L67[02:03:17] <The_St​argazer> what, like not-OC p9?
L68[02:03:20] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ugh
L69[02:03:22] <Ocawes​ome101> yeah
L70[02:03:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> gmod debugging sucks
L71[02:03:30] <The_St​argazer> where'd you find that
L72[02:03:34] <Ocawes​ome101> like real-world Plan 9 from Bell Labs in Vbox
L73[02:03:35] <Ocawes​ome101> uh
L74[02:03:42] <Ocawes​ome101> http://9p.io
L75[02:03:56] <Kristo​pher38> oh crap, wireless card t2 uses ender pearl in its recipe
L76[02:04:00] <Ocawes​ome101> http://9p.io/plan9 [Edited]
L77[02:04:05] <The_St​argazer> is that bad
L78[02:04:14] <The_St​argazer> also
L79[02:04:16] <The_St​argazer> recipes file
L80[02:04:25] <The_St​argazer> trading upgrade should be in there
L81[02:04:45] <Kristo​pher38> I want to make self-replicating robots, it's bad cause I can't rely on killing mobs since they don't spawn if a player is not around
L82[02:05:04] <The_St​argazer> uh
L83[02:05:08] <The_St​argazer> chunkloader upgrade?
L84[02:05:11] <CompanionCube> maybe also try 9front?
L85[02:05:12] <The_St​argazer> think that might spawn them
L86[02:05:13] <The_St​argazer> idk
L87[02:05:24] <The_St​argazer> im pretty sure mobs spawn in loaded chunks w/o players
L88[02:05:59] <Kristo​pher38> you're sure?
L89[02:06:14] <The_St​argazer> not 100% sure
L90[02:06:16] <The_St​argazer> but like 90% sure
L91[02:06:53] <Kristo​pher38> ```However, hostile mobs (and some others) that move farther than 128 blocks from the nearest player despawn instantly, so the mob spawning area is more-or-less limited to spheres with a radius of 128 blocks, centered at each player.```
L92[02:07:04] <The_St​argazer> where is this from
L93[02:07:33] <The_St​argazer> wiki?
L94[02:07:52] <Kristo​pher38> yeah
L95[02:08:08] <The_St​argazer> well
L96[02:08:12] <The_St​argazer> i think robots have a fake player
L97[02:08:16] <The_St​argazer> so that might work
L98[02:08:19] <Kristo​pher38> they do
L99[02:08:26] <Kristo​pher38> but it's not recognized as true player
L100[02:08:38] <The_St​argazer> does Minecraft ignore those in mob spawn checks?
L101[02:08:39] <Kristo​pher38> I asked about this and Vexatos gave me an answer
L102[02:09:06] <Kristo​pher38> the fake player that the robot has doesn't fake the player in a sense that mobs will spawn
L103[02:09:29] <The_St​argazer> oh
L104[02:09:54] <Kristo​pher38> well I can check it pretty easily, give me 5 minutes
L105[02:10:30] <The_St​argazer> give it a chunkloader too
L106[02:11:30] <Kristo​pher38> yes, I remember
L107[02:11:58] <The_St​argazer> well, speaking of chunks
L108[02:12:04] <Ocawes​ome101> CompanionCube: I think I will
L109[02:12:07] <The_St​argazer> `0 / 0 chunks` i was so happy to see this
L110[02:12:21] <Ocawes​ome101> Also I have a Compaq from ~2000 that I wanna try running it on
L111[02:12:40] <The_St​argazer> PFFFFHAHAHA
L112[02:12:40] <The_St​argazer> i've played the new ariricraft longer than the old
L113[02:12:46] <The_St​argazer> most of that is chunk pregen
L114[02:12:56] <The_St​argazer> probably like at least 5 hours is pregen
L115[02:13:01] <Ocawes​ome101> Nice lmao
L116[02:13:22] <The_St​argazer> yeah i finally got it done
L117[02:13:33] <The_St​argazer> uploaded too!
L118[02:15:15] <CompanionCube> Ocawesome101: inb4 take advantage of plan9's distributed computing model by joining the two together
L119[02:15:37] <Ocawes​ome101> :P
L120[02:15:43] <Kristo​pher38> I'll set the robot aside for the night, we'll see if the motion sensor catches something
L121[02:16:24] <Kristo​pher38> anyway, there's a far simpler recipe for tier1 wireless card
L122[02:16:48] <Kristo​pher38> I initially wanted to be able to communicate over long distances with tier2 cards but eh, whatever
L123[02:16:53] <The_St​argazer> how many address combinations are there for an OC network card?
L124[02:16:56] <Kristo​pher38> this will only simplify things
L125[02:17:05] <The_St​argazer> they're 32 chars right?
L126[02:17:32] <Kristo​pher38> I only critically need the wireless network card for communication with the computer so I can run an assembler
L127[02:17:42] <The_St​argazer> same as an IPv6 address I think...
L128[02:17:45] <The_St​argazer> %xkcd 865
L129[02:17:46] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Nanobots URL: https://xkcd.com/865
L130[02:17:48] <Kristo​pher38> as the robot wouldn't be able to do that
L131[02:18:11] <CompanionCube> iirc OC network cards are some variant of uuid-guid, so 128-bit seems about right?
L132[02:18:22] <The_St​argazer> so yeah that xkcd could not be more relevant
L133[02:18:40] <AmandaC> Tier 1 wireless cards are very janky
L134[02:18:49] <Kristo​pher38> I need to limit the scope of the project anyway if I ever want to finish it
L135[02:18:58] <The_St​argazer> do OC Skynet :D
L136[02:19:08] <Kristo​pher38> Yeah, I know they are
L137[02:19:21] <The_St​argazer> better yet: have your robot upload itself to pastebin
L138[02:19:24] <Kristo​pher38> I wonder if all the issues were resolved in the latest fixes
L139[02:19:32] <AmandaC> Payonel said he was going to look into fixing it, but IDK if he's gotten around to it
L140[02:19:55] <Kristo​pher38> If I get to a stage when I absolutely need it I'll poke at him :P
L141[02:20:07] <Kristo​pher38> and that's assuming I ever get to that stage
L142[02:25:40] <AmandaC> Also they only have like a 16-block range
L143[02:25:57] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> oh
L144[02:26:04] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i forgot to opt into gmod x86-64
L145[02:27:52] <Kristo​pher38> yeah, that's really a shame
L146[02:27:58] <Thanos-​No Snap> isnt it ctrl+c that terminates a program?
L147[02:28:01] <The_St​argazer> ye
L148[02:28:03] <Kristo​pher38> I could use drones as move'able relays though :D
L149[02:28:05] <The_St​argazer> ctrl-alt-c to force
L150[02:28:19] <Thanos-​No Snap> oh forgot alt lol
L151[02:28:21] <The_St​argazer> usually with ctrl-alt-c you have to spam it
L152[02:28:22] <Thanos-​No Snap> thnx
L153[02:28:24] <The_St​argazer> np
L154[02:29:04] <Kristo​pher38> I wanted to make a design where robots would be able to communicate with a central database but oh well
L155[02:29:28] <Kristo​pher38> that's just flexing at this point though
L156[02:29:29] <The_St​argazer> this is 100% skynet
L157[02:30:50] <Kristo​pher38> and if I ever get bored I can just change a line in the config
L158[02:30:58] <Kristo​pher38> I wish it was possible without that though
L159[02:35:06] <Kristo​pher38> Imagine a giant network mesh of drones lining up in a line to form a comms channel
L160[02:35:14] <Kristo​pher38> Imagine a giant mesh of drones lining up in a line to form a comms channel [Edited]
L161[02:35:49] <The_St​argazer> you'd put in "SEND X123 Y60 Z10" and it'd come out "SAND X6"
L162[02:36:35] <The_St​argazer> if you want six pieces of sand.. great!
L163[02:36:42] <The_St​argazer> if you want anything else... not so great!
L164[02:37:29] <Kristo​pher38> I really want pretty graphs in my central server :(
L165[02:38:07] <Klea​dron> dr charts would like to know your location
L166[02:38:32] <The_St​argazer> `[01:40:54] [Server thread/INFO] [STDERR]: [pregenerator.impl.processor.ChunkFile:populate:97]: java.lang.ClassCastException: gcewing.sg.tileentity.SGRingTE cannot be cast to gcewing.sg.tileentity.SGBaseTE` well :I
L167[02:38:38] <The_St​argazer> looks like a couple chunks will be not exist
L168[02:39:14] <The_St​argazer> well, more than two..
L169[02:39:15] <The_St​argazer> oof
L170[02:49:06] <Kristo​pher38> Oh wait, not all hope is lost
L171[02:49:07] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> AAA
L172[02:49:16] <CompanionCube> https://www.ticalc.org/archives/news/articles/14/149/149342.html lulz
L173[02:49:32] <Kristo​pher38> Villagers in 1.12 have a trade for ender pearl
L174[02:49:57] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> why does TI feel the need to do this
L175[02:50:42] <CompanionCube> idunno, article suggests one
L176[02:51:02] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ah
L177[02:51:03] <Kristo​pher38> I need to check if spawners work if they're in chunkloaded chunk
L178[02:51:03] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yeah
L179[02:51:08] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> just skimmed over it at first
L180[02:51:14] <CompanionCube> but something something 'war on general purpose computing'
L181[02:52:33] <The_St​argazer> oh jesus
L182[02:52:37] <The_St​argazer> they're going the way of microsoft
L183[02:52:43] <The_St​argazer> "we don't give a shit about our users lol"
L184[02:54:56] <CompanionCube> speaking of microsoft
L185[02:55:18] <CompanionCube> today's uninteresting telemetry shenanigans: https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli/issues/179
L186[02:55:19] <MichiBot> Title: Please include ability to opt out of telemetry and clear documentation on how to opt out | Posted by: ferventcoder | Posted: Tue May 19 10:26:47 CDT 2020 | Status: open
L187[02:55:24] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> open source graphing calculator soon
L188[02:55:26] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> pls
L189[02:55:47] <Kristo​pher38> Spawners don't work when there's no player nearby, there goes my plan to go about this without mods
L190[02:56:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> there's times when i wish i could tweak load order in gmod smh
L191[02:57:57] <Klea​dron> my god
L192[02:58:02] <Klea​dron> 1.7.10 is so simple to mod for
L193[02:58:12] <Klea​dron> you make a block and it automatically makes an item for it
L194[02:58:24] <Klea​dron> and you don't need to create a bunch of json files for a model or anything
L195[02:58:31] <Klea​dron> it just uses a texture
L196[03:00:34] <The_St​argazer> wait.. you don't have to seperately register a BlockItem?!
L197[03:00:43] <The_St​argazer> why the fuck did they change that
L198[03:02:16] <The_St​argazer> just why
L199[03:03:46] <Klea​dron> idk it's really annoying ¯\(ツ)/¯
L200[03:04:03] <Klea​dron> might have been a 1.8 change
L201[03:05:13] <The_St​argazer> nah it was probably 1.9, the "Fuck You" update
L202[03:05:45] <Alche​michai> Surely such a feature could be reimplemented in forge or the likes... I find it hard to believe devs would make things more tedious for themselves like that.
L203[03:06:29] <The_St​argazer> it's forge, the home of "fuck you" so ¯\(ツ)/¯
L204[03:06:45] <Alche​michai> Lol
L205[03:07:23] <Alche​michai> Or a library...
L206[03:08:31] <Klea​dron> i would probably have ended up making some sort of component of my mod to make adding blocks less tedius and easy
L207[03:09:59] <Klea​dron> EZ-BlockBuilder
L208[03:15:49] <Sagh​etti> @AdorableCatgirl open source calculator you say???
L209[03:15:54] <Alche​michai> Uh
L210[03:15:57] <Sagh​etti> https://www.numworks.com/
L211[03:16:09] <Sagh​etti> fully open source OS, hardware, etc
L212[03:16:20] <Sagh​etti> built on an ARM chip
L213[03:16:27] <Sagh​etti> even supports python
L214[03:16:35] <Sagh​etti> for the low price of only $99
L215[03:18:18] <Sagh​etti> you can compile the OS and upload it to the hardware yourself, fully supported
L216[03:18:32] <Sagh​etti> you can probably even port an OC sim over to it
L217[03:19:55] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yea i saw
L218[03:19:56] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> but like
L219[03:20:03] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> let's go further
L220[03:20:09] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> put it on OpenSPARC
L221[03:31:33] <The_St​argazer> also, fun fact
L222[03:31:42] <The_St​argazer> in the pack, Tinker's Construct is no longer useless
L223[03:32:05] <The_St​argazer> i mean it's still beaten out by DE but it's not as useless
L224[03:33:33] <Klea​dron> could i play on the ariricraft server the next time it's up?
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L226[03:34:04] <The_St​argazer> sure
L227[03:34:13] <The_St​argazer> you'll have to ask @Ariri as well tho
L228[03:34:25] <Klea​dron> alright
L229[03:34:56] <The_St​argazer> also
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L232[03:35:11] <The_St​argazer> new shit http://tinyurl.com/ycql7jet
L233[03:35:41] <Klea​dron> waiting a decade for Ender Floor III to release
L234[03:35:53] <The_St​argazer> haha
L235[03:36:01] <The_St​argazer> the original Ender Floor was amazing
L236[03:37:37] <CompanionCube> why OpenSPARC over RISC-V?
L237[03:38:00] <CompanionCube> it's not like you need any reasonable amount of ooph, and it's probably a better 'embedded' choice?
L238[03:51:43] <Ar​iri> Sure, Kleadron.
L239[03:53:37] <Klea​dron> cool :)
L240[03:53:53] * AmandaC snugsafairy, zzzmews
L241[03:55:07] <The_St​argazer> oh, hey ariri
L242[03:55:15] <The_St​argazer> world's all ready to go, just waiting on you
L243[03:58:26] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> CC: because sparc was the first thing that came to mind because of a small thing i want to make
L244[03:59:08] <Ar​iri> Yeah yeah, Im working on it. Progress has been slow today because of a massive waste of time I couldn't avoid.
L245[03:59:53] <The_St​argazer> oh F
L246[04:00:42] <Ar​iri> What version of Forge are we using? Just to make sure
L247[04:00:56] <Ar​iri> 2854?
L248[04:02:05] <The_St​argazer> uh
L249[04:02:07] <The_St​argazer> latest
L250[04:02:23] <The_St​argazer> so yeah
L251[04:02:25] <The_St​argazer> 2854
L252[04:11:11] <Ar​iri> Do you have a server-properties file? If so, send it
L253[04:11:26] <The_St​argazer> uh
L254[04:11:29] <The_St​argazer> no but I can make one rq
L255[04:12:02] <Ar​iri> Well I have one, but im unsure of level-type and any possible changes it may have made with the addition of bop and abyssal
L256[04:12:07] <Ar​iri> Unless it doesnt matter
L257[04:12:14] <The_St​argazer> no i think that's just for new worls
L258[04:12:15] <The_St​argazer> no i think that's just for new worlds [Edited]
L259[04:12:33] <The_St​argazer> just extract the zip and rename the folder to `world`
L260[04:12:46] <Ar​iri> Okay
L261[04:14:09] <Ar​iri> Im doing a lot from scratch, compared to just modifying the ftb server I started with, so lets see if it goes to plan :3
L262[04:14:37] <Ar​iri> Also, Nextcloud is so much better than Onedrive huh? I downloaded that world zip in 30 seconds
L263[04:14:41] <The_St​argazer> oh damn
L264[04:14:47] <The_St​argazer> that's fast
L265[04:14:52] <Ar​iri> And guess what
L266[04:14:58] <The_St​argazer> it didn't work?
L267[04:15:00] <Ar​iri> You dont have to sign in to download
L268[04:15:03] <The_St​argazer> oh damn
L269[04:15:05] <The_St​argazer> that--
L270[04:15:09] <The_St​argazer> that is amazing
L271[04:15:10] <The_St​argazer> oh, btw
L272[04:15:17] <The_St​argazer> on initial start
L273[04:15:18] <The_St​argazer> it'll close
L274[04:15:19] <Ar​iri> And its free! except power costs :P
L275[04:15:36] <The_St​argazer> you have to agree to the EULA (well not really you just have to change false to true in `eula.txt`)
L276[04:15:59] <Ar​iri> I just snagged it from the old server lol, im mirroring best I can while figuring out what works
L277[04:16:22] <Ar​iri> Also, the forge in the old server was either .2847, or I renamed it to that. I hope it was the latter
L278[04:53:34] <Ar​iri> Testing now
L279[04:54:25] <Ar​iri> Anyone recommend any server management stuff with modded? Ie role management, a different backup util, etc
L280[04:55:48] <The_St​argazer> there's Aroma1997Backups but other than that idk any other backup util
L281[04:56:46] <Ar​iri> Im using that one or an FTB one I think. It seems to do well, but I do want to figure out how to backup to nextcloud as well
L282[04:57:28] <The_St​argazer> well
L283[04:57:34] <The_St​argazer> where is your nextcloud physically?
L284[04:57:36] <The_St​argazer> a NAS?
L285[04:58:03] <The_St​argazer> you could have it backup to a mount
L286[04:58:04] <Ar​iri> Basically, I can probably try something with ftp, but I think I had issues with the default speed/size limits
L287[04:58:20] <The_St​argazer> you could try mounting the nextcloud to the server
L288[04:58:21] <Ar​iri> Or even rsync
L289[04:58:25] <The_St​argazer> using WebDAV or something
L290[04:58:39] <Ar​iri> Nextcloud does have WebDAV, ill look into uses
L291[04:59:02] <Ar​iri> bc the server is now running on ubuntu-server 20, so no gui
L292[04:59:07] ⇦ Quits: t20kdc (~20kdc@cpc139340-aztw33-2-0-cust225.18-1.cable.virginm.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
L293[04:59:22] <Ar​iri> *will be running
L294[04:59:26] <The_St​argazer> no GUI is fine
L295[04:59:43] <Ar​iri> Eh nani https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/2cc76kpEY9kcszj/preview
L296[04:59:55] <The_St​argazer> uhhhh
L297[04:59:59] <The_St​argazer> OH
L298[05:00:05] <The_St​argazer> Harvestcraft removes some Minecraft items
L299[05:00:15] <Ar​iri> Even rftools?
L300[05:00:25] <The_St​argazer> uh idk about that..
L301[05:00:32] <The_St​argazer> you're using the provided world, rtg-bop right?
L302[05:00:37] <Ar​iri> Yeah
L303[05:00:49] <The_St​argazer> with the same StariCraft New Beginnings 1.0.1R pack?
L304[05:00:57] <Ar​iri> Yup
L305[05:01:03] <The_St​argazer> well, idk then..
L306[05:01:05] <Ar​iri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/sFkifyBkW72TFoK/preview
L307[05:01:06] <The_St​argazer> can you gimme the full log?
L308[05:02:12] <Ar​iri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/8gJftPW7Z4P8MRk Try this?
L309[05:02:26] <The_St​argazer> works
L310[05:02:27] <Ar​iri> Ahah it worked
L311[05:03:03] <The_St​argazer> well it should be fine
L312[05:03:15] <Ar​iri> so remove it?
L313[05:03:21] <The_St​argazer> remove what
L314[05:03:26] <The_St​argazer> just do `/fml confirm`
L315[05:03:31] <Ar​iri> Yeah thats what I mean
L316[05:03:34] <The_St​argazer> oh, yeah
L317[05:03:34] <The_St​argazer> do that
L318[05:03:45] <The_St​argazer> wait
L319[05:03:53] <Ar​iri> Zzz...
L320[05:04:00] <The_St​argazer> `Preparing level "staricraftworld"`
L321[05:04:00] <The_St​argazer> did you set it to that in the server.properties
L322[05:04:03] <Ar​iri> Yes
L323[05:04:08] <The_St​argazer> alr
L324[05:04:23] <Ar​iri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/aTrGBK9YoHRBiEe/preview
L325[05:06:37] <Ar​iri> I also recommend changing the — into a normal hyphen, I forgot an em dash was a special character and may not play nice down the road
L326[05:06:46] <The_St​argazer> oh right
L327[05:06:55] <The_St​argazer> i thought it was?
L328[05:07:10] <Ar​iri> It was until I changed the other day bc idk
L329[05:07:19] <The_St​argazer> might be a Windows thing
L330[05:07:34] <MichiBot> @Ariri REMINDER: Check if Inari has told me what video they're asking about
L331[05:07:35] <Ar​iri> I renamed it in the cloud anyways
L332[05:07:59] <Ar​iri> Eh.. I forgot about that :P
L333[05:13:31] <Ar​iri> %8ball Success on first try?
L334[05:13:32] <MichiBot> Ar​​iri: My reply is no
L335[05:13:40] <Ar​iri> %bap MichiBot
L336[05:13:40] * MichiBot smacks Ar​iri!
L337[05:14:02] <Ar​iri> Ye of little faith
L338[05:14:41] <The_St​argazer> i mean
L339[05:14:50] <The_St​argazer> basically nothing ever works first try :P
L340[05:15:27] <Ar​iri> I can still hope
L341[05:15:43] <The_St​argazer> yeah
L342[05:18:20] <The_St​argazer> i wonder...
L343[05:18:41] <The_St​argazer> will this work
L344[05:18:42] <The_St​argazer> %bap MichiBоt
L345[05:18:43] <MichiBot> The_St​argazer baps MichiBоt with Free Bird!
L346[05:18:47] <The_St​argazer> haha yes
L347[05:18:49] <B​ob> o
L348[05:19:10] <Ar​iri> Currently using 1.8g of ram, lets see if it works with a client.
L349[05:19:10] <Ar​iri> If it looks alright, I'll figure out how to change the starting inventory and it should be up.
L350[05:19:10] <Ar​iri> I will need to test to make sure its alright, but I cant think of much else needed to get the server up.
L351[05:19:26] <The_St​argazer> starting inv can probably be done with some mod
L352[05:19:33] <Ar​iri> Slav letter?
L353[05:19:36] <The_St​argazer> yeah
L354[05:19:40] <The_St​argazer> cryllic о
L355[05:19:47] <Ar​iri> Er, thats what I meant
L356[05:19:51] <The_St​argazer> oh :P
L357[05:20:00] <Ar​iri> I saw a Sailor Moon slav meme earlier so i defaulted to that
L358[05:20:03] <Ar​iri> Whoops
L359[05:20:31] <The_St​argazer> https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/custom-starter-gear here ya go
L360[05:20:37] <The_St​argazer> ..where
L361[05:20:57] <The_St​argazer> note
L362[05:21:05] <The_St​argazer> custom starter gear does remove manuals given by other mods
L363[05:21:16] <The_St​argazer> like the OC manual and the Tinker's manual you get when you first join
L364[05:21:50] <Klea​dron> the minecraft manual
L365[05:22:39] <The_St​argazer> CSG (Custom Starter Gear) is serverside too
L366[05:25:57] <Izaya> coffee made
L367[05:26:02] <Izaya> pwnagepineapple: still around?
L368[05:27:06] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: do australians just not sleep
L369[05:27:20] <Izaya> it's like 2PM man
L370[05:27:31] <Izaya> just got home from work
L371[05:27:35] <The_St​argazer> oh
L372[05:27:37] <The_St​argazer> right
L373[05:27:40] <The_St​argazer> 2:27 PM
L374[05:27:46] <The_St​argazer> also: you have a job?
L375[05:27:56] <Izaya> h-hey
L376[05:28:01] <The_St​argazer> oh wait yeah i remember
L377[05:28:04] <The_St​argazer> you do flowers or some shit
L378[05:28:10] <Izaya> yes I have a job, with an essential service no less
L379[05:28:18] <B​ob> ~~weed~~
L380[05:28:23] <The_St​argazer> not sure how flowers are essential but OK
L381[05:28:24] <The_St​argazer> Bob++
L382[05:28:39] <Izaya> Bob: haven't seen it, but I'm sure it's around somewhere
L383[05:28:41] <B​ob> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L384[05:28:51] <The_St​argazer> for legal reasons i have to say that dRuGs aRe bAd
L385[05:29:09] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: neither am I but the plants have been fuckin flying out the metaphorical door
L386[05:29:39] <Klea​dron> don't do math, do meth
L387[05:30:48] <Klea​dron> this has been my day so far http://tinyurl.com/yba8lct5
L388[05:30:52] <The_St​argazer> quick meths
L389[05:30:56] <Izaya> the real drug you gotta worry about though
L390[05:31:00] <Izaya> stellaris
L391[05:31:13] <B​ob> Factorio change my mind
L392[05:31:22] <The_St​argazer> Minecraft pack dev change my mind
L393[05:31:29] <B​ob> Not so fun
L394[05:31:32] <Klea​dron> factorio has eaten much more of my time than i allowed it to
L395[05:31:37] <The_St​argazer> i find it fun
L396[05:31:44] <The_St​argazer> i love throwing mods together
L397[05:32:03] <Elfi> Cracking open a text editor and making your own game change my mind
L398[05:32:15] <Klea​dron> mfw coding assembly in notepad
L399[05:32:25] <The_St​argazer> Elfi: Opening IDEA and screaming at mixins change my mind
L400[05:32:40] <Klea​dron> what's a mixin and what does it mix
L401[05:32:43] <Elfi> That sounds like a bad IDEA
L402[05:32:45] <Elfi> :D
L403[05:32:45] <Izaya> so
L404[05:32:50] <Izaya> I got stellaris a week ago
L405[05:32:57] <Izaya> I have 120 hours in it
L406[05:33:02] <The_St​argazer> Elfi: HAHA
L407[05:33:03] <The_St​argazer> @Kleadron it's a thing to modify already-compiled class files iirc
L408[05:33:09] <Klea​dron> ah
L409[05:33:14] <The_St​argazer> Minecraft modding thing
L410[05:33:20] <Klea​dron> yeah
L411[05:33:23] <Klea​dron> i've heard of them
L412[05:33:30] <Klea​dron> never really needed to use them
L413[05:33:36] <The_St​argazer> idk if they exist in forge
L414[05:33:47] <Elfi> Laughter or groaning, I'm glad I got a response out of that
L415[05:33:47] <Klea​dron> i think they do?
L416[05:33:49] <B​ob> Wouldnt forge rely on mixins
L417[05:33:54] <Izaya> mixin: when you throw shit in the same bowl as other stuff and stir
L418[05:33:55] <B​ob> to bind into MC
L419[05:34:02] <Klea​dron> what do you mod in stargazer
L420[05:34:08] <The_St​argazer> java
L421[05:34:18] <Klea​dron> i meant what modloader ._.
L422[05:34:20] <B​ob> for MC youre forced to so
L423[05:34:21] <The_St​argazer> oh
L424[05:34:22] <The_St​argazer> Fabric
L425[05:34:31] <The_St​argazer> @Bob there's kotlin
L426[05:34:32] <The_St​argazer> and scala
L427[05:34:39] <B​ob> 🤔
L428[05:34:44] <The_St​argazer> but iirc both are subsets of Java
L429[05:34:48] <B​ob> i know but they are subsets
L430[05:34:49] <B​ob> yes
L431[05:34:58] <The_St​argazer> but r/technicallythetruth it ain't Java
L432[05:35:34] <Izaya> there is no good JVM language
L433[05:35:37] <Izaya> change my mind
L434[05:35:43] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: ^
L435[05:35:47] <Klea​dron> i can't imagine what other thing that could have come out of this http://tinyurl.com/y9cnjyvy
L436[05:35:59] <The_St​argazer> well
L437[05:36:06] <The_St​argazer> it could be what do you mod in (what do you add)
L438[05:36:12] <Klea​dron> fing python
L439[05:36:21] <The_St​argazer> fuck python
L440[05:36:27] <Klea​dron> that too
L441[05:36:36] <The_St​argazer> r/fuckpython
L442[05:36:47] <B​ob> :GWunuDrakeNo: :GWcodesPython:
L443[05:36:59] <The_St​argazer> actual subreddit
L444[05:37:18] <B​ob> Good, we need to raise hellfire upon pythoners
L445[05:37:23] <B​ob> JS users next doe
L446[05:37:39] <Klea​dron> my friend said c# and java were so similar he could code in java with little to no experience
L447[05:37:54] <B​ob> i started Java after Lua
L448[05:37:56] <The_St​argazer> r/fuckjs
L449[05:37:59] <Klea​dron> and from personal experience it really do be like that
L450[05:38:03] <Klea​dron> just names changed
L451[05:38:09] <B​ob> C# is literally Java++
L452[05:38:14] <The_St​argazer> Java++
L453[05:38:19] <B​ob> i kid you not microsoft turned java into a pickle
L454[05:38:24] <B​ob> funiest sht ive ever seen
L455[05:38:25] <The_St​argazer> haaha jk
L456[05:38:26] <The_St​argazer> Java--
L457[05:38:32] <B​ob> true true
L458[05:38:35] <The_St​argazer> @Bob is that
L459[05:38:36] <B​ob> C# stinky poopy
L460[05:38:37] <The_St​argazer> is that
L461[05:38:39] <Klea​dron> Java# the new java that has c# names
L462[05:38:43] <The_St​argazer> it is isn't it
L463[05:38:47] <B​ob> Jojo refernece
L464[05:38:51] <The_St​argazer> GODDAMNIT
L465[05:38:57] <The_St​argazer> I was going to say Rick and Morty reference
L466[05:39:31] <Klea​dron> clearly it's a sethbling reference
L467[05:39:58] <The_St​argazer> nah nah
L468[05:40:08] <The_St​argazer> terraria reference
L469[05:40:27] <Klea​dron> http://tinyurl.com/ydz3dk5o
L470[05:40:32] <Klea​dron> speaking of that
L471[05:41:21] <Klea​dron> remember when sethbling came back for a little while to mess with datapacks and then left again
L472[05:43:20] <B​ob> о
L473[05:45:21] <CompanionCube> Izaya: inb4 'armed bear common lisp is a good jvm language'
L474[05:46:04] <CompanionCube> Bob: if i wanted to be evil i could curse you with J++
L475[05:47:02] <CompanionCube> that one actually caused a lawsuit against Microsoft.
L476[05:51:41] ⇦ Quits: Cervator (~Thunderbi@70.241.38.147) (Quit: Cervator)
L477[05:52:12] <pay​onel> o/
L478[05:56:08] <Klea​dron> hi
L479[06:07:56] <Izaya> the JVM is better than the C# runtime but C# is a nicer language than Java
L480[06:07:58] <Izaya> very conflicting
L481[06:08:35] <pay​onel> jvm is better than clr? how so?
L482[06:11:29] <Izaya> the obvious one is platform support
L483[06:12:59] <pay​onel> ok. how is it better on platforms they are both supported?
L484[06:16:43] <Izaya> that was my big one tbh
L485[06:18:10] <Izaya> otherwise the CLR is nicer in a lot of ways
L486[06:19:19] <Izaya> java/the JVM has been catching up recently but the CLR is still probably better from a technical standpoint
L487[06:19:28] <pay​onel> ok fair. i was a bit suprised
L488[06:19:47] <Izaya> I'm somewhat predisposed against C# and the CLR
L489[06:19:47] <pay​onel> i've always consider the clr quite impressive, i really like a lot that i've learned about it
L490[06:19:52] <CompanionCube> CLR is also well, not oracle's.
L491[06:19:55] <pay​onel> whereas i consider java and the jvm to be poop
L492[06:19:58] <Ar​iri> r/f*ckeverything ?
L493[06:19:59] <pay​onel> although, i'm HUGELY biased
L494[06:20:00] <pay​onel> 🙂
L495[06:20:07] <Izaya> for a long time, anything C# was an absolute shitshow on Linux
L496[06:20:09] <Izaya> there was mono
L497[06:20:11] <Izaya> but
L498[06:20:13] <Izaya> hahahahahaha
L499[06:20:20] <pay​onel> sure, sure
L500[06:20:25] <Izaya> and now that .NET Core is ported
L501[06:20:27] <pay​onel> i was a developer at msft when the clr came out
L502[06:20:30] <Izaya> iunno it feels like a step back somehow
L503[06:20:38] <pay​onel> so, it was compat with everything i was doing at the time
L504[06:20:55] <Izaya> like, you have the runtime
L505[06:20:58] <pay​onel> so, obviously, our backgrounds influence our opinions 🙂
L506[06:20:59] <Izaya> but half the libraries are missing
L507[06:21:19] <Izaya> and anything that does graphics in C# does DirectX pretty much
L508[06:21:29] <pay​onel> i worked for a linux company before i went to msft, but that linux job was my first and i really didn't know much about linux at the time
L509[06:21:38] <CompanionCube> how does linux ffi work with the CLR? JNI is platform-neutral but idunno about C~
L510[06:21:42] <CompanionCube> *C#
L511[06:21:54] <pay​onel> after msft i went back to linux environments, and i definitely love linux these days .. anyways, a bit of autobiography i guess
L512[06:22:27] <Izaya> I feel like Microsoft would be an interesting place to work
L513[06:22:35] <pay​onel> i liked it 🙂
L514[06:22:38] <pay​onel> hahah
L515[06:22:54] <CompanionCube> Izaya: whic is/was more hahahaha: mono or the monodevelop IDE?
L516[06:22:59] <Izaya> everywhere I look there seems to be a "oh yeah I worked at microsoft {5,10,20} years ago, it was alright"
L517[06:23:20] <pay​onel> heh
L518[06:23:28] <pay​onel> i worked there in the early 2000s
L519[06:23:44] <pay​onel> so, 15 years ago? almost 20
L520[06:24:18] <Izaya> CompanionCube: never used monodevelop
L521[06:24:30] <Izaya> I just remember trying to run terraria on linux long before it had official support
L522[06:24:34] <CompanionCube> hah
L523[06:25:05] <Izaya> payonel: it seems like something everyone (that has been a programmer for a long time) tries at least once
L524[06:25:21] <pay​onel> what? working for msft?
L525[06:25:26] <Izaya> yeah
L526[06:25:59] <pay​onel> well, perhaps. i've only ever met 1 person that has worked there
L527[06:26:09] <pay​onel> perhaps those i knew there...
L528[06:27:31] <Izaya> hey
L529[06:27:36] <Izaya> the JVM and the CLR are neat
L530[06:27:37] <Izaya> but
L531[06:27:39] <Izaya> have you considered
L532[06:27:43] <Izaya> the Dis virtual machine?
L533[06:27:59] <Izaya> http://doc.cat-v.org/inferno/4th_edition/dis_VM_design
L534[06:28:08] <CompanionCube> isn't that the one for inferno?
L535[06:28:13] <Izaya> yeah
L536[06:28:29] <CompanionCube> probably not language-neutral in the slightest, then?
L537[06:28:49] <Izaya> eh
L538[06:29:10] <Izaya> probably no worse than the JVM
L539[06:29:40] <Izaya> though I imagine it would be inclined towards Limbo
L540[06:31:16] <CompanionCube> of all the languages, why would you use a VM for a language even more boring/void than java
L541[06:31:52] <Izaya> say it with me now
L542[06:31:54] <Izaya> write once
L543[06:31:56] <Izaya> debug everywhere
L544[06:32:42] <CompanionCube> an *interesting* vm would be graal
L545[06:32:55] <CompanionCube> also java/oracle related
L546[06:34:20] <Klea​dron> time to reimplement all the recipes and special properties http://tinyurl.com/yafjp9nr
L547[06:36:10] <Ar​iri> Anyone have any idea what this might be caused by (client logs, nothing of note on server)
L548[06:36:11] <Ar​iri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/piKoQboEzMzsy88
L549[06:38:43] <The_St​argazer> `FML.TEXTURE_ERROR`
L550[06:38:44] <The_St​argazer> i'd uhh
L551[06:38:59] <The_St​argazer> yeah some textures are brok'd
L552[06:39:20] <Ar​iri> The Stargazer: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/goab39/sailor_moon_slav_squat/
L553[06:39:40] <The_St​argazer> pffhahaha
L554[06:39:43] <The_St​argazer> that is..
L555[06:39:46] <The_St​argazer> interesting.
L556[06:39:48] <Ar​iri> How are they ‘brok’d’
L557[06:39:58] <Ar​iri> It is indeed, and I quite like the artstyle
L558[06:40:04] <The_St​argazer> idk, forge just yells at you
L559[06:40:05] <Ar​iri> it has a certain aura of smug and swag
L560[06:40:28] <Ar​iri> Is it worth looking into?
L561[06:40:47] <Ar​iri> Nothing stands out on jei yet
L562[06:41:07] <The_St​argazer> twilight forest's doors have no item texture
L563[06:41:23] <The_St​argazer> that's probably it
L564[06:41:26] <Izaya> ah shit
L565[06:41:32] <Izaya> :: gtk3 and gtk3-mushrooms are in conflict (gtk3-print-backends). Remove gtk3-mushrooms? [y/N]
L566[06:41:45] <Izaya> guess gtk3-print-backends has to go
L567[06:42:00] <Ar​iri> Extra Utilities 2 metals have missing textures...
L568[06:42:03] <The_St​argazer> what's gtk3-mushrooms and why do you need it
L569[06:42:04] <Ar​iri> How?...
L570[06:42:07] <The_St​argazer> XU2...
L571[06:42:07] <The_St​argazer> uhhh
L572[06:42:21] <Izaya> gtk3-mushrooms is a patched version of gtk3 that fixes a lot of issues
L573[06:42:25] <The_St​argazer> like demon ingots?
L574[06:42:34] <Izaya> typeahead search is back, client-side decoration is delet'd
L575[06:42:35] <The_St​argazer> oh shit u right
L576[06:42:49] <The_St​argazer> OH
L577[06:42:54] <The_St​argazer> those are PlusTiC molten metals
L578[06:42:59] <Ar​iri> evil iron and demon metal
L579[06:43:07] <The_St​argazer> yeah that's molten metal i'm pretty sure
L580[06:43:21] <The_St​argazer> the actual ingots are fine
L581[06:43:25] <The_St​argazer> PlusTiC is just stupid
L582[06:43:27] <Ar​iri> It says ingot I thought
L583[06:43:31] <Izaya> https://github.com/krumelmonster/gtk3-mushrooms
L584[06:43:40] <The_St​argazer> the actual XU2 Demon Ingot is fine
L585[06:43:42] <Izaya> > This Project is abandoned, if you would like to maintain it, create a fork and I will pass over the AUR package
L586[06:43:44] <Izaya> q_q
L587[06:43:56] <The_St​argazer> look up `@ExtraUtil` in JEI
L588[06:44:04] <The_St​argazer> first page, you'll see the ingots
L589[06:44:08] <Ar​iri> It doesn’t say plustic it says xu2
L590[06:44:15] <The_St​argazer> yeah
L591[06:44:17] <The_St​argazer> thats odd
L592[06:44:20] <The_St​argazer> if you click on it to show uses tho
L593[06:44:26] <The_St​argazer> it'll bring up the Fluid Transposer uses
L594[06:44:43] <The_St​argazer> or, this http://tinyurl.com/ycgj35ho
L595[06:44:51] <Ar​iri> Oh yeah hug
L596[06:44:53] <Ar​iri> huh
L597[06:44:55] <The_St​argazer> i think PlusTiC registers them under XU2
L598[06:45:04] <The_St​argazer> for whatever reason
L599[06:45:17] <Ar​iri> What about the errors from earlier? were they all texture?
L600[06:45:33] <The_St​argazer> `TEXTURE_ERROR` so yes
L601[06:46:01] <CompanionCube> Izaya: rip?
L602[06:46:08] <Ar​iri> I didn’t realize they all said that
L603[06:46:09] <Ar​iri> Hmm, guess I’ll just make the custom starting inventory and get the server up proper
L604[06:46:24] <Izaya> guess I'll have to consider switching back to gtk3-nocsd
L605[06:47:03] <The_St​argazer> Ariri: be warned, CSG overwrites mod manuals (eg Materials and You) that you get given on first join
L606[06:47:21] <Ar​iri> Yeah, which is why I’ll add them back
L607[06:47:22] <Ar​iri> That should be fine, no?
L608[06:47:30] <The_St​argazer> Ye
L609[06:48:03] <Forec​aster> Civilization 6 is free on Epic currently
L610[06:48:26] <Izaya> is it DRM free over there
L611[06:48:31] <The_St​argazer> it's Epic
L612[06:48:33] <The_St​argazer> so I doubt it
L613[06:48:51] <Ar​iri> I completely forgot it was even released
L614[06:49:05] <pay​onel> speaking of drm - denuvo anti cheat in doom eternal now
L615[06:49:16] <pay​onel> makes me very sad and grumpy
L616[06:49:24] <Izaya> didn't uh
L617[06:49:25] <pay​onel> i know that's not "drm"
L618[06:49:28] <Izaya> bethesda already crack the game
L619[06:49:29] <pay​onel> it just reminded me of it
L620[06:49:34] <Klea​dron> i heard they were going to remove it in the next update
L621[06:49:42] <pay​onel> that would be appreciated
L622[06:49:54] <Izaya> like, they released a DRM-free exe
L623[06:50:08] <Forec​aster> yes
L624[06:50:09] <Izaya> and you replace the normal exe with that one and you get a cracked game that runs better
L625[06:50:10] <Forec​aster> they did
L626[06:50:10] <pay​onel> yeah i know. but i waited a few weeks before i bought it
L627[06:50:11] <Klea​dron> i have the drm free version ;)
L628[06:50:22] <pay​onel> they removed it from the install though
L629[06:50:29] <Izaya> pirate a copy for the exe maybe
L630[06:50:38] <pay​onel> heh
L631[06:50:46] <Izaya> you own the game, that's your right
L632[06:51:03] <pay​onel> i'm on your side in that, tbh
L633[06:51:25] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: exactly
L634[06:51:29] <The_St​argazer> it's your game, your computer
L635[06:51:40] <pay​onel> but it's not that big of a deal to me. 1. i already have a over-drm-heavy pc specifically for all the stupid crap (including epic games for civ 6 and gtav i got for free)
L636[06:51:47] <pay​onel> and 2. meh 🙂
L637[06:51:58] <The_St​argazer> payonel: are you sure you're OK with big companies recording your every move?
L638[06:52:04] <The_St​argazer> and also probably selling that to ad agencies
L639[06:52:23] <The_St​argazer> or, wait
L640[06:52:28] <The_St​argazer> are you saying you have a second PC?
L641[06:52:32] <The_St​argazer> i'm mildly confused
L642[06:52:42] <Izaya> I considered building a second machine out of the spare parts I have kicking around
L643[06:52:48] <pay​onel> i have pc just for games, yeah
L644[06:52:53] <The_St​argazer> ohh
L645[06:52:54] <Klea​dron> are you implying you don't have 4 computers
L646[06:52:59] <The_St​argazer> no :P
L647[06:53:08] <Izaya> I mean, it'd be beefy enough - got a spare haswell i3, a GTX 980, 16GB of RAM - stick windows on it, use it to stream to my desktop
L648[06:53:10] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i have much more than 4
L649[06:53:12] <Izaya> but also I don't want to deal with windows
L650[06:53:15] <Izaya> that sounds stressful
L651[06:53:17] <pay​onel> well...i'm an old-ish person and a real job 🙂
L652[06:53:20] <pay​onel> yeah, i have computers
L653[06:53:20] <Klea​dron> put windows 7 on it :)
L654[06:53:32] <Izaya> that still sounds stressful
L655[06:53:33] <The_St​argazer> Windows 1.7.10
L656[06:53:36] <pay​onel> haha
L657[06:53:37] <Izaya> windows is pain
L658[06:53:42] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i have at least
L659[06:53:46] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> whst
L660[06:53:50] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 7?
L661[06:53:50] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: the eternal windows 1.7.10
L662[06:53:54] <Ar​iri> Open(Source) Windows
L663[06:53:59] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 7 computers
L664[06:54:33] <Ar​iri> I think I’ve managed that many concurrently at one point
L665[06:54:46] <Ar​iri> Like using them all at once for some period of time
L666[06:54:48] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: windows is bread
L667[06:54:57] <Izaya> tfw can run updates on my 20+ containers and VMs in one command
L668[06:54:59] <Ar​iri> Stale
L669[06:55:04] <The_St​argazer> yes
L670[06:55:17] <The_St​argazer> moldy stale bread
L671[06:55:31] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i only have
L672[06:56:08] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 6 normally in use
L673[06:56:16] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> also i have 9 pcs as it turns out
L674[06:58:19] <Izaya> I have like
L675[06:58:20] <The_St​argazer> ooOOH
L676[06:58:20] <Izaya> at least 5
L677[06:58:32] <The_St​argazer> XU2 has lightsabers
L678[06:58:41] <The_St​argazer> (well, "Lux Sabers")
L679[06:58:56] <The_St​argazer> http://tinyurl.com/y8pospjv
L680[07:01:43] * CompanionCube has 4. I count the rpi and tablet but not the phone.
L681[07:04:15] <Forec​aster> I have 2 servers, one main workstation, 1 media computer attached to the TV, and two laptops (+1 work laptop)
L682[07:04:51] <Klea​dron> mfw http://tinyurl.com/y8742ra6
L683[07:07:37] <The_St​argazer> that is an absurd hunger value http://tinyurl.com/y8mnxl4z
L684[07:08:09] <Klea​dron> woah
L685[07:08:20] <The_St​argazer> also of note: in a mod about serious things i.e. nuclear rectors
L686[07:08:23] <The_St​argazer> reactors*
L687[07:08:57] <The_St​argazer> also also of note
L688[07:09:19] <The_St​argazer> the "FourS'more QuadS'mingot" doesn't show up in JEI
L689[07:09:42] <Klea​dron> probably supposed to be hidden
L690[07:09:55] <The_St​argazer> so close, yet so far
L691[07:10:23] <Klea​dron> that's hilarious it's like a super compressed stack
L692[07:10:30] <Klea​dron> now make one of those in real life
L693[07:10:45] <The_St​argazer> i would
L694[07:10:46] <The_St​argazer> if i had the stuff
L695[07:15:29] <Klea​dron> so there's this now https://www.laptopmag.com/uk/news/windows-10-update-is-wrecking-laptops-now-microsoft-is-investigating
L696[07:15:43] <Klea​dron> i don't understand how this keeps happening
L697[07:16:49] <Izaya> really?
L698[07:16:52] <Izaya> it's simple.
L699[07:16:57] <Izaya> There's no QA happening.
L700[07:17:21] <Klea​dron> you'd think they would learn after a couple dozen times of this happening but no
L701[07:17:29] <Klea​dron> and somehow windows 10 is still gaining marketshare
L702[07:18:13] <Izaya> I think the primary forces behind that are that you can't buy a machine with anything else, and businesses are updating despite the issues because they do not want to be running unsupported software
L703[07:21:30] <CompanionCube> Izaya: well, that's what you get when you fire most(?) of your QA department...
L704[07:21:46] <Ar​iri> Oh yeah we have nuclear craft now!
L705[07:21:46] <Ar​iri> Im so excited...
L706[07:21:58] <Izaya> CompanionCube: all*
L707[07:22:37] * CompanionCube imagines they've partially recovered/reoganized by now though
L708[07:22:38] ⇦ Quits: Backslash (~Backslash@d137-186-220-152.abhsia.telus.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L709[07:23:29] <Klea​dron> i don't think they have and i don't think they will be
L710[07:23:39] <CompanionCube> the pile of closed potentially-craptastic drivers can't be helping things either...
L711[07:23:50] <pwnagepineapple> So according to the RC API docs, I can access configuration parameters through the global variable `args`, but any time I try to do that, the lua interpeter complains that `args` is null, yet the exmaple can do it just fine. What am I doing wrong?
L712[07:24:11] * Izaya pages payonel
L713[07:31:28] <pay​onel> so i've been testing a bunch for the bitblt feature
L714[07:31:51] <pay​onel> i think the right thing to do here for server respect is, bitblts basically need to yield for the tick when the page is dirty
L715[07:32:12] <pay​onel> i'm running 14 machines all doing constant dirty blits in a loop
L716[07:32:34] <pay​onel> all of them are keeping a frame per tick which is cool
L717[07:32:46] <pay​onel> and my fps isn't trashed (even though i'm running it in intellij)
L718[07:33:15] <pay​onel> sure, 20 blits/s will make people sad, but 1. this is for dirty blits only, and 2. we need to respect the servers
L719[07:33:27] <Klea​dron> 3. tickrate
L720[07:34:00] <The_St​argazer> 20 blits/s should be fine
L721[07:34:05] <pay​onel> still gets 20 tps
L722[07:34:12] <The_St​argazer> also ^
L723[07:34:17] <The_St​argazer> randomTickSpeed is for crops and stuff
L724[07:34:30] <pay​onel> 12.530 ms ticks
L725[07:34:38] <pay​onel> again, on my weak dev laptop
L726[07:34:41] <The_St​argazer> and localized tickrate speedup (e.g. torcherino) doesn't affect the whole server
L727[07:34:47] <pay​onel> on a real server, this would be okay i think
L728[07:34:57] <Klea​dron> imagine a computer powered by random ticks
L729[07:35:05] <The_St​argazer> oh god
L730[07:35:36] <The_St​argazer> `Even S'more Where That Came From` hahaha
L731[07:35:39] <pay​onel> ok i think this is fair. it's going to disappoint @Kristopher38 i think
L732[07:35:41] <The_St​argazer> in the nuclearcraft lang file
L733[07:36:05] <pay​onel> from here i can i can look for speedups
L734[07:36:09] <pay​onel> @iza
L735[07:36:16] <pay​onel> derp
L736[07:36:40] <payonel> Izaya: sup
L737[07:37:14] <payonel> you paged me
L738[07:37:18] <Izaya> someone was asking about rc stuff so I figured you were the person to ask
L739[07:37:27] * Izaya never used arguments in rc services
L740[07:37:28] <payonel> oh
L741[07:37:37] <payonel> rc <servicename> <command>
L742[07:37:47] <payonel> and commands are totally custom
L743[07:38:03] <Izaya> 16:23 <pwnagepineapple> So according to the RC API docs, I can access configuration parameters through the global variable `args`, but any time I try to do that, the lua interpeter complains that `args` is null, yet the exmaple can do it just fine. What am I doing wrong?
L744[07:38:23] <payonel> pwnagepineapple: oh it's been some time since i mucked with that
L745[07:38:37] <payonel> um, i think those args are based on what you specify in the rc.cfg for your service
L746[07:39:51] <payonel> pwnagepineapple: what's the name of your service?
L747[07:40:08] <payonel> if, for example, it is foobar, try adding a foobar variable to rc.cfg
L748[07:40:41] <payonel> like, add foobar={ data = "my data", count = 5 } to that file
L749[07:40:55] <payonel> then your start method i believe is given the value of foobar to your start method
L750[07:43:44] <Ar​iri> Zipping up for transmission to the server, with official deployment time scheduled for 9 hours, 17 minutes from now. (9 AM PST, 4PM UTC)
L751[07:43:44] <Ar​iri> Amanda, Inari, Izaya: If you'd like to join, here's the client MMC zip link, with the server IP being what it was before.
L752[07:43:45] <Ar​iri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/8mBYkcLJcKRC4sQ
L753[07:44:10] <Ar​iri> If you are interested in joining, send me a direct message for the IP :D
L754[07:44:12] <Izaya> I uh
L755[07:44:15] <Izaya> I'll take a look
L756[07:44:38] <Izaya> I wonder if I can import this stuff into my nextcloud instance
L757[07:44:40] <Izaya> that'd be interesting
L758[07:45:53] <Izaya> https://tower.xyzzy.link/media/0419755bfed9bce67d4756eca9529dd73b02ff950e1cb4c03b18a99423b83cc9.mp4
L759[07:47:23] <Ar​iri> Heheh
L760[07:47:44] <Ar​iri> that is one long dile name though
L761[07:47:47] <Ar​iri> file*
L762[07:47:56] <Izaya> eh
L763[07:48:04] <Izaya> I imagine it's either a hash or generated
L764[07:48:13] <Ar​iri> Even still
L765[07:48:23] <Izaya> just pleroma things tm
L766[07:48:32] <Forec​aster> aren't all hashes generated
L767[07:48:43] <Izaya> randomly generated
L768[07:49:05] <Forec​aster> you're randomly generated!
L769[07:49:06] <Forec​aster> D:
L770[07:49:30] <Forec​aster> (and so was I, and everyone else)
L771[07:49:57] <pwnagepineapple> payonel I tried that and ran into the same problem. I ended up just loading and saving a separate configuration file
L772[07:50:18] <The_St​argazer> okay i think sonarr is just stupid
L773[07:50:19] <The_St​argazer> it thinks i don't have Stargate SG-1 S1E1 but I do
L774[07:50:49] <Izaya> that's what I do, just serialize a table and slap it into /etc
L775[07:51:06] <The_St​argazer> also it's not sending the download to deluge (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
L776[07:51:31] <Izaya> I looked at sonarr but the dependencies scared me, IIRC
L777[07:51:40] <The_St​argazer> dependencies?
L778[07:51:41] <The_St​argazer> like what
L779[07:51:44] <The_St​argazer> i just installed it
L780[07:51:51] <The_St​argazer> also installed radarr, which is sonarr but movies
L781[07:51:52] <pwnagepineapple> The code I'm working on actually heavily relies on Minitel, so when the standard approach failed me, I took the route Minitel did
L782[07:52:06] <The_St​argazer> pwnagepinapple: have you considered
L783[07:52:07] <The_St​argazer> GERTi?
L784[07:52:38] <Izaya> does GERT do anything yet
L785[07:52:41] <Izaya> :^)
L786[07:52:54] <pwnagepineapple> You're not the first to push me towards GERTi
L787[07:52:55] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: does Minitel have proper addresses yet?
L788[07:52:59] <Izaya> yes
L789[07:53:06] <The_St​argazer> when, and what format
L790[07:53:09] <Izaya> we don't use floats, thankfully
L791[07:53:11] <Izaya> strings
L792[07:53:11] <payonel> sure it does. it solves everything, didn't you hear?
L793[07:53:18] <The_St​argazer> > addresses
L794[07:53:19] <The_St​argazer> > strings
L795[07:53:21] <The_St​argazer> that-- that's a hostname
L796[07:53:26] <Izaya> yup
L797[07:53:31] <The_St​argazer> not an address
L798[07:53:35] <pwnagepineapple> My problem with GERT is that I want to pronounce GERTi and GERTe the same, and that makes the documentation immensely more confusing
L799[07:53:38] <Izaya> no, it's an address too
L800[07:53:55] <pwnagepineapple> And I find hostnames as IP addresses to be a perfectly acceptable solution
L801[07:54:06] <pwnagepineapple> Better than component UUIDs
L802[07:54:07] <The_St​argazer> pwnagepinapple: h--how does that make it confusing
L803[07:54:15] <The_St​argazer> i pronounce them the same
L804[07:54:16] <Izaya> it removes the need for a layer to map names to numbers
L805[07:54:22] <payonel> so when did stargazer drink mgr's coolaid?
L806[07:54:27] <Izaya> like a year ago
L807[07:54:31] <Izaya> it's quite painful tbh
L808[07:54:37] <The_St​argazer> i mean it works for me
L809[07:54:52] <The_St​argazer> minitel is more P2P
L810[07:54:52] <pwnagepineapple> mgr came at me with the coolaid a few days ago
L811[07:54:56] <payonel> i didnt even know gert was still around, let alone mgr
L812[07:55:14] <The_St​argazer> payonel: it's still around and I need to remember to finish DNS
L813[07:55:15] <Izaya> doesn't hang around here any more because they get called out on their BS too much
L814[07:55:32] <Forec​aster> he's still around
L815[07:55:38] <Forec​aster> doesn't say much though
L816[07:55:52] <pwnagepineapple> Except to push people to use GERT
L817[07:55:55] <The_St​argazer> i guess GERT just feels more.. internet-y to me
L818[07:56:04] <pwnagepineapple> Like poor hapless programmers like myself
L819[07:56:05] <The_St​argazer> Minitel doesn't feel very internet-y, more P2P-y
L820[07:56:12] <Izaya> this is intentional
L821[07:56:28] <Izaya> it's heavily inspired by AppleTalk
L822[07:56:36] <Forec​aster> people being judgmental about stupid stuff is always fun
L823[07:56:40] <Izaya> but it's still more like IP than GERT, amusingly, because it isn't centralised
L824[07:56:48] <Forec​aster> makes me proud to be a part of this community.
L825[07:56:57] <Forec​aster> oh wait, no it doesnt
L826[07:57:00] <The_St​argazer> I will admit that because of the P2P thing as a sort of messenger (like XMPP)
L827[07:57:11] <The_St​argazer> but doesn't Minitel require an rc script?
L828[07:57:24] <Izaya> ... yes?
L829[07:57:27] <The_St​argazer> i can bet the average user does not know what RC even is
L830[07:57:33] <pwnagepineapple> I'm writing an RC script
L831[07:57:37] <Izaya> they don't need to
L832[07:57:44] <The_St​argazer> or how to install one
L833[07:57:50] <Izaya> oppm install minitel
L834[07:57:54] <Izaya> rc minitel enable
L835[07:57:55] <payonel> Forecaster: haha, you roped me in there at first :) i honestly dont care either way that much about gert. i love that people make projects
L836[07:57:57] <The_St​argazer> oppm's a loot disk
L837[07:58:01] <pwnagepineapple> I was just annoyed bc mgr kept trying to get me to throw out the work I already did with Minitel and redo it with GERT and I was like how about no
L838[07:58:10] <pwnagepineapple> oppm's a craftable disk
L839[07:58:15] <The_St​argazer> i-- oh
L840[07:58:18] <Izaya> did you know you can grab oppm via an internet card
L841[07:58:23] <The_St​argazer> o h
L842[07:58:27] <pwnagepineapple> I didn't know that actually
L843[07:58:32] <Izaya> I really should update that pastebin
L844[07:58:34] <The_St​argazer> wellokbuti'mstillgoingtofinishmypackagemanagergoddamnit
L845[07:58:35] <pwnagepineapple> I always just crafted the disk
L846[07:58:46] <payonel> i got turned away from it when the drama of it all tried to ... put requirements on me that i never subscribed to
L847[07:58:55] <The_St​argazer> OPPM?
L848[07:58:56] <Izaya> I had a pastebin link so you could pastebin run <id> and it installed oppm
L849[07:59:10] <Izaya> you're not
L850[07:59:11] * Izaya coughs
L851[07:59:14] <Izaya> meant to do that with oppm
L852[07:59:16] <Izaya> but it works
L853[07:59:37] <payonel> pwnagepineapple: i am sorry about that. let me know if get your pestered more than you consider reasonable
L854[08:00:39] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: additionally, https://git.shadowkat.net/izaya/OC-misc/src/branch/master/repo-installer
L855[08:01:14] <pwnagepineapple> It's no big deal. I actually mostly forgot about that discussion until GERT came up again
L856[08:01:50] <Forec​aster> as far as I know he's only ever asked anyone once, I don't see how that's pestering
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L859[08:04:55] <payonel> i dont call that pestering either
L860[08:05:19] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: it may explain an amount that I designed and wrote the original version of Minitel while doing a networking course and reading this book http://www.tmetz.net/os/Apple/Inside_AppleTalk.pdf
L861[08:06:02] <The_St​argazer> that.. might explain some things
L862[08:06:27] <The_St​argazer> if you were to make Minitel now, without ever doing that, would it still be P2P?
L863[08:06:36] <Izaya> of course
L864[08:07:29] <Izaya> centralization just introduces single points of failure
L865[08:07:45] <Izaya> and usually complicates things
L866[08:09:17] <pwnagepineapple> I actually gave GERTi a serious look up until I saw a reserved address documented as "phone home", and then I was like nah
L867[08:10:12] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: I highly recommend said book by the way
L868[08:11:13] <Izaya> wish I could recommend course materials but we didn't actually get any home reading :<
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L871[08:18:49] <The_St​argazer> pwnagepineapple: it doesn't
L872[08:18:53] <The_St​argazer> that's GERTe
L873[08:18:56] <Forec​aster> they left
L874[08:18:59] <The_St​argazer> oh
L875[08:19:05] <The_St​argazer> wait
L876[08:19:05] <PwnageP​ineapple> No, I'm just in the Discord now
L877[08:19:06] <The_St​argazer> they on discord
L878[08:19:07] <The_St​argazer> yea
L879[08:19:09] <PwnageP​ineapple> Still here
L880[08:19:12] <The_St​argazer> superior platform
L881[08:19:25] <payonel> :)
L882[08:19:33] <PwnageP​ineapple> Yeah IRC is pretty old school
L883[08:19:39] <Izaya> IRC is comf
L884[08:19:49] <The_St​argazer> well, anyway
L885[08:19:54] <The_St​argazer> @PwnagePineapple it doesn't phone home
L886[08:19:59] <payonel> the heat death of the universe will bump up against irc
L887[08:20:02] <payonel> just remember that
L888[08:20:06] <The_St​argazer> that's GERTe, not GERTi, and idk if GERTe still does that
L889[08:20:24] <Izaya> payonel: IRC will live on after the heat death of the universe as radio waves moving out towards nothingness
L890[08:20:25] <PwnageP​ineapple> mgr told me it was unimplemented
L891[08:20:37] <PwnageP​ineapple> And yeah, IRC will never die
L892[08:20:40] <The_St​argazer> %xkcd 1782
L893[08:20:41] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Team Chat URL: https://xkcd.com/1782
L894[08:20:56] <payonel> yep, that's what i was refering to
L895[08:21:21] <Forec​aster> 2051 is a bit optimistic
L896[08:21:38] <Forec​aster> should've gone with 2XXXX or something
L897[08:21:43] <PwnageP​ineapple> Yeah, that comic assumes we make it to 2051
L898[08:21:52] <Izaya> we blade runner now
L899[08:22:10] <PwnageP​ineapple> And by "we" I mean humanity
L900[08:22:22] <Izaya> Oh, PwnagePineapple did you work out the packet loss issues by the way
L901[08:22:29] <Forec​aster> yes, humanity, no robots here
L902[08:22:30] <Izaya> I saw AmandaC was helping
L903[08:22:36] <PwnageP​ineapple> I did actually. I was being dumb with my relays
L904[08:22:57] <The_St​argazer> oh that reminds me
L905[08:23:00] <The_St​argazer> there is server
L906[08:23:16] <Forec​aster> fun fact, we're only 9 years from the Ghost in the Shell future
L907[08:23:16] <PwnageP​ineapple> I couldn't get remote terminals working, so I used T3 computer cases for my relay computers. The computers were sharing components or smth else bad
L908[08:23:24] <Forec​aster> the original movie was set in 2029
L909[08:23:36] <The_St​argazer> the amount of fun had while playing Minecraft is directly proportional to players online
L910[08:23:46] <PwnageP​ineapple> Indeed
L911[08:23:52] <Izaya> do we wanna
L912[08:23:55] <Izaya> new village
L913[08:24:00] <Izaya> when the server is up
L914[08:24:06] <The_St​argazer> oh, fun fact Izaya
L915[08:24:13] <The_St​argazer> i'll pastebin the rules here
L916[08:24:18] <The_St​argazer> max of two people per team
L917[08:24:39] <Izaya> At a time?
L918[08:24:43] <Izaya> :p
L919[08:25:04] <Izaya> tfw friends are even more sporadic than me
L920[08:25:39] <Ar​iri> You can ally as much as you want, but as far as base mates go, max of two
L921[08:25:55] <Izaya> so we could build a village where everyone has a house
L922[08:25:56] <Izaya> nice
L923[08:25:57] <Ar​iri> Its a competitive thing this time, I thought that may be a fun experiment
L924[08:26:22] <Ar​iri> You could make neutral territory and have everyone vow to leave it undamaged, yes
L925[08:26:25] <The_St​argazer> https://pastebin.com/5CX34P5G
L926[08:26:26] <Ar​iri> That would be nice actually
L927[08:26:37] <Izaya> I'm not much into competitive
L928[08:27:03] <PwnageP​ineapple> I like MC multiplayer mostly so there's someone else to do all the strip mining
L929[08:27:08] <Ar​iri> Its not enforced, and the honor system says no one should attack you, but its the main theme
L930[08:27:24] <PwnageP​ineapple> I hate strip mining
L931[08:27:27] <PwnageP​ineapple> It's so boring
L932[08:27:37] <Izaya> does it have outfox
L933[08:27:44] <Ar​iri> Ah Stargazer: If you can still edit that, I made minor tweaks https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/Wq2QxDLxB8rAL34
L934[08:27:45] <Izaya> outfox makes me happy
L935[08:28:04] <Ar​iri> I think so? If you asked to add it last time then it should still have it
L936[08:28:12] <Ar​iri> I think someone did
L937[08:28:24] <The_St​argazer> yea it should be in there
L938[08:28:43] <The_St​argazer> ill check rq
L939[08:29:26] <Ar​iri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/CxtFZHpagfcxfG3/preview
L940[08:29:28] <Ar​iri> Yup
L941[08:29:34] <The_St​argazer> nope I can't edit it
L942[08:29:42] <The_St​argazer> guest paste, can't be edited
L943[08:29:47] <Ar​iri> Ah
L944[08:30:03] <Ar​iri> Well theres the rules in that txt up there anyways, and itll be in a book you get when you spawn
L945[08:30:09] <Ar​iri> (tm)
L946[08:31:02] <Ar​iri> pm2 doesnt seem to like lizzy's server script...
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L949[08:37:34] <Klea​dron> oh there’s roleplay stuff
L950[08:37:38] <Klea​dron> hmmm
L951[08:38:38] <The_St​argazer> i'd say it's not a core server part tho
L952[08:38:48] <The_St​argazer> more of a side thing
L953[08:38:54] <Ar​iri> I kept thinking of the Cold War/Space Race while writing the rules, so I guess it’s a sort of blocky emulation of global warfare for those who want to
L954[08:39:16] <Izaya> do we have ICBM?
L955[08:39:22] <Klea​dron> lmao
L956[08:39:41] <Ar​iri> I promote the role play, but you can join even if you don’t want to engage in it. Just declare it with a sign at spawn or something (and your faction name) and you should be fine
L957[08:39:50] <Ar​iri> Izaya: yes
L958[08:40:00] <Izaya> @AdorableCatgirl get in on this, sounds like your thing
L959[08:40:10] <Ar​iri> declare that you don’t want to engage, I mean.
L960[08:40:19] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 👀
L961[08:40:26] <Izaya> you wanna uh
L962[08:40:30] <Izaya> team
L963[08:40:40] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yea, when i get on
L964[08:40:54] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> just got finished with a dnd thing at like 3:40am
L965[08:41:03] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so
L966[08:41:05] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> oops
L967[08:41:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> but hey, now we're in 1930s chicago for some reason
L968[08:41:36] <Izaya> server isn't up yet anyway I gather
L969[08:41:51] * Izaya is finally getting around to writing Inside Minitel
L970[08:41:55] <Ar​iri> Scroll up a bit for the link^
L971[08:41:56] <Ar​iri> Side note: There shouldn’t be any need for updates other than required fixes, should they arise.
L972[08:42:05] <Ar​iri> Not yet, launch is 4pm irc
L973[08:42:08] <Ar​iri> utc*
L974[08:42:14] <The_St​argazer> 9 am PST right?
L975[08:42:18] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i will have to get the link later
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L977[08:42:20] <Ar​iri> Yes
L978[08:42:24] <The_St​argazer> alr
L979[08:42:34] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> also
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L981[08:42:53] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 11h ET, rite?
L982[08:43:10] <Ar​iri> I think so, since DST
L983[08:43:12] <Izaya> 2AM
L984[08:43:13] <Izaya> nice
L985[08:43:19] <Izaya> or maybe 2PM
L986[08:43:23] <Izaya> nah 2AM, has to be
L987[08:43:39] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> anyways
L988[08:43:46] <Ar​iri> Sorry :|
L989[08:43:52] <Izaya> +10 is a fun timezone
L990[08:43:55] <Izaya> would recommend
L991[08:43:59] <Izaya> it's all g I got up at like 3PM
L992[08:44:04] <Forec​aster> would zone again
L993[08:44:05] <Izaya> wait
L994[08:44:05] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> we in 1930s chigago and i am prepared to shoot a ceiling with a tommy gun
L995[08:44:07] <Izaya> was that yesterday
L996[08:44:09] * Izaya squints
L997[08:44:15] <Izaya> my whole concept of time is so off at the moment
L998[08:44:21] <Izaya> 2AM or 2PM makes little difference, I have coffee
L999[08:44:25] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> what is time
L1000[08:44:38] <Klea​dron> idk but it’s rude
L1001[08:44:54] <Ar​iri> and it’s backwards in another universe apparently
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L1003[09:02:46] <Ar​iri> Time to sleep so I wake up on time
L1004[09:02:53] <Ar​iri> gn all
L1005[09:02:57] <Izaya> o/
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L1007[09:03:40] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L1008[09:05:48] <The_St​argazer> o/
L1009[09:06:19] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: Coffee is liquid "five more minutes"
L1010[09:07:05] <Izaya> is that at 1x strength?
L1011[09:07:15] <Izaya> because I drink 10x strength, several times an hour
L1012[09:07:40] <Ar​iri> Ah fuck
L1013[09:07:40] <Ar​iri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/rrjZWQsEPR6nqzd/preview
L1014[09:07:49] <Ar​iri> Excuse my language
L1015[09:09:45] <The_St​argazer> uh
L1016[09:09:47] <The_St​argazer> why is there a script
L1017[09:09:51] <The_St​argazer> what's that script
L1018[09:10:00] <Ar​iri> Thats part of the log I showed earlier
L1019[09:10:04] <The_St​argazer> and all of those mods i removed
L1020[09:10:05] <Ar​iri> the 'texture errors'
L1021[09:10:10] <The_St​argazer> oh
L1022[09:10:20] <The_St​argazer> well the snippet began with `TEXTURE_ERROR
L1023[09:10:51] <Ar​iri> iirc I uploaded the whole log from MultiMC :P
L1024[09:10:54] <The_St​argazer> i-- oh
L1025[09:10:58] <The_St​argazer> i'm stupid lol
L1026[09:11:04] <The_St​argazer> well, all of those mods were removed
L1027[09:11:18] <Ar​iri> might be bc jei data was preserved
L1028[09:11:20] <Ar​iri> ignorable ig
L1029[09:11:27] <The_St​argazer> ye probabl
L1030[09:11:51] <Ar​iri> redownloading the server zip to fix the world, then actually sleeping
L1031[09:12:01] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ow my toe hurts
L1032[09:12:09] <Ar​iri> mytoesis
L1033[09:12:21] <Ar​iri> Sorry, I couldnt help myself
L1034[09:14:05] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> why must my toe bring me pain where i cannot fix it myself at this currrent moment
L1035[09:14:09] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> *current
L1036[09:15:15] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> how do i numb my toe and only my toe legally so i can slightly operate on it
L1037[09:15:25] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> cause i know what i gotta do
L1038[09:16:29] <Ar​iri> a very tight rubber band
L1039[09:16:52] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> funni
L1040[09:18:34] <Ar​iri> %give AdorableCatgirl anesthetic
L1041[09:18:34] * MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't find anything..."
L1042[09:18:53] <Ar​iri> %give MichiBot anesthetic
L1043[09:18:54] * MichiBot accepts anesthetic and adds it to her inventory
L1044[09:19:07] <Ar​iri> %give AdorableCatgirl anesthetic
L1045[09:19:07] * MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't find anything..."
L1046[09:19:19] <Ar​iri> Bugger it
L1047[09:19:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> hold my beer
L1048[09:19:34] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i found the bit of nail
L1049[09:19:54] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i should be able to clip it with a bit more soaking in warm water
L1050[09:20:04] <The_St​argazer> ingrown nail?
L1051[09:20:08] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> y e s
L1052[09:20:11] <The_St​argazer> oof
L1053[09:20:26] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i will chop this thing so help me gods
L1054[09:21:16] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> tomorrow
L1055[09:21:23] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i have some work to do
L1056[09:24:21] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> just wish i had better cutters and shit
L1057[09:31:24] <Forec​aster> or a table saw
L1058[09:31:26] <Forec​aster> I mean what
L1059[09:32:16] <Ar​iri> %choose cutter or table saw
L1060[09:32:17] <MichiBot> Ar​​iri: Hold on tightly! "table saw" is a wild ride!
L1061[09:32:25] <Ar​iri> Wise words
L1062[09:32:28] <Forec​aster> she's not wrong...
L1063[09:33:31] <Ar​iri> Yup, wild — and possibly your last — ride :P
L1064[09:34:25] <The_St​argazer> %s/possibly//
L1065[09:34:26] <MichiBot> <Ariri> Yup, wild — and your last — ride :P
L1066[09:34:39] <The_St​argazer> i doubt anyone could survive sitting on a table s aw
L1067[09:36:16] <Forec​aster> well, if you tie four of them together and turn them upside down you have a vehicle
L1068[09:37:30] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L1069[09:37:30] <MichiBot> Willikers! Forec​aster! You beat Li​zzy's previous record of 3 hours, 32 minutes and 22 seconds (By 7 hours, 9 minutes and 41 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1070[09:37:31] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 10 hours, 42 minutes and 3 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.02864 (0.00716 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.0091 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L1071[09:37:41] <Forec​aster> whoof
L1072[09:37:43] <The_St​argazer> xkcd what if table saw needs to be a thing
L1073[09:37:45] <Forec​aster> clone one
L1074[09:37:51] <Forec​aster> close*
L1075[09:38:47] <The_St​argazer> how
L1076[09:38:59] <The_St​argazer> `By 7 hours, 9 minutes, and 41 seconds`
L1077[09:39:01] <The_St​argazer> how is that close
L1078[09:40:46] <Forec​aster> MichiBot works in mysterious ways
L1079[09:42:38] <The_St​argazer> indeed
L1080[09:42:49] <The_St​argazer> also\
L1081[09:43:02] <The_St​argazer> making a table saw car is not sitting directly on a table saw
L1082[09:43:37] <Forec​aster> nobody said you had to sit on the blade :P
L1083[09:45:12] <The_St​argazer> ...there's more to a table saw?
L1084[09:45:33] <Forec​aster> there's usually the table part?
L1085[09:45:33] <The_St​argazer> afaik table is not included
L1086[09:45:54] <The_St​argazer> well yes
L1087[09:45:54] <The_St​argazer> but
L1088[09:45:56] <The_St​argazer> > usually
L1089[09:46:43] <Forec​aster> I mean that the thing is literally a table with a saw sticking out of it
L1090[09:47:09] <The_St​argazer> oh :P
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L1093[09:58:02] <Klea​dron> im too busy thinking about thos beans to sleep
L1094[09:58:43] <The_St​argazer> what beans
L1095[09:58:45] <Forec​aster> maybe you should count them
L1096[09:59:02] <The_St​argazer> also speaking of sleep/not sleep
L1097[09:59:18] <The_St​argazer> as long as I don't fall asleep i'll be there for the server start
L1098[10:08:36] <Klea​dron> i heard somewhere that someone was making or has made a thing that rebinds forge mods to run on fabric
L1099[10:10:15] <The_St​argazer> oh, i heard about that
L1100[10:10:18] <The_St​argazer> patchwork or smthn
L1101[10:10:22] <The_St​argazer> it's still very indev
L1102[10:10:56] <Klea​dron> yeah i heard about it
L1103[10:11:00] <Klea​dron> too
L1104[10:11:04] <Klea​dron> i mean the name
L1105[10:11:06] <Klea​dron> fuck
L1106[10:11:18] <The_St​argazer> it doesn't run many mods
L1107[10:11:29] <Klea​dron> i wonder how the developers of those forge mods will react
L1108[10:11:40] <Klea​dron> drm time
L1109[10:11:44] <The_St​argazer> haha
L1110[10:11:45] <The_St​argazer> you jest, but
L1111[10:11:47] <The_St​argazer> forest :^)
L1112[10:11:50] <The_St​argazer> forestry :^) [Edited]
L1113[10:12:50] <Klea​dron> i wonder how hard it would be to make a mod that can load 1.7.10 mods in newer versions in fabric vs forge
L1114[10:13:02] <Klea​dron> (other than it already being pretty hard)
L1115[10:13:44] <Klea​dron> i’d assume for fabric you have to reimplement a bunch of forge things instead of just linking them to newer forge
L1116[10:13:51] <The_St​argazer> yeah
L1117[10:14:01] <The_St​argazer> it'd basically be Forge II: Electric Boogaloo
L1118[10:16:40] <Klea​dron> If someone is really bored please make it
L1119[10:20:00] <Klea​dron> who would be crazy enough to do it though? probably the people making patchwork
L1120[10:22:38] <Klea​dron> although patchwork is a different approach than just emulating the mod loader and involves modifying the jar file afaik
L1121[10:23:25] <The_St​argazer> yea
L1122[10:23:27] <The_St​argazer> also
L1123[10:23:38] <The_St​argazer> i love how they're basically about to do forge
L1124[10:23:42] <The_St​argazer> better than forge
L1125[10:23:57] <The_St​argazer> finally push Forge off the edge
L1126[10:24:04] <The_St​argazer> into obsoleteness
L1127[10:24:17] <Klea​dron> what’s wrong with forge
L1128[10:24:23] <Klea​dron> :(
L1129[10:24:46] <The_St​argazer> the developers
L1130[10:25:48] <Klea​dron> i mean
L1131[10:26:15] <Klea​dron> lexmanos just seems to get really pissed off when people ask for support for an unsupported version and when people act like idiots
L1132[10:27:00] <Klea​dron> what specifically though
L1133[10:27:17] <Klea​dron> i’ve heard people getting upset in the multimc discord over mcp’s licensing
L1134[10:29:01] <Klea​dron> imo fabric feels too componentized for my taste and the names it uses for things are backwards
L1135[10:29:25] <Klea​dron> in forge the name for block friction is called slipperyness and increasing it makes the block more slippy like it should
L1136[10:29:47] <Klea​dron> and decreasing it makes it less slippy and somehow makes you go faster due to a game physics bug i assume
L1137[10:29:58] <Klea​dron> but in fabric it’s called friction
L1138[10:30:13] <Klea​dron> and does the opposite of what i expect
L1139[10:31:49] <The_St​argazer> well
L1140[10:31:52] <The_St​argazer> if it's less slippy
L1141[10:31:54] <The_St​argazer> that means
L1142[10:31:57] <The_St​argazer> it has more friction
L1143[10:32:05] <The_St​argazer> if it's slippier
L1144[10:32:08] <The_St​argazer> it has less friction
L1145[10:32:45] <Klea​dron> if the function is named slipperyness i expect giving it a higher value to make things more slippery
L1146[10:32:46] <Forec​aster> @Kleadron you mean fabric calls it friction, but increasing it makes things more slippery?
L1147[10:32:51] <Klea​dron> yes
L1148[10:33:01] <Klea​dron> its a different name that makes no sense to me
L1149[10:33:02] <Forec​aster> yeah that's wrong
L1150[10:33:12] <The_St​argazer> oh then yeah that's uh
L1151[10:33:14] <The_St​argazer> not friction
L1152[10:33:31] <The_St​argazer> that's it's brother fricktion (where nothing works)
L1153[10:33:52] <The_St​argazer> that's it's brother fricktion (where nothing works as it should) [Edited]
L1154[10:34:25] <The_St​argazer> also, Izaya: i have good or bad news depending on how you interpret it
L1155[10:35:03] <Klea​dron> I imagine they are peeved at the mcp licensing because they have to use mappings that are backwards and make no sense like that
L1156[10:35:20] <The_St​argazer> i'm making a network protocol lol
L1157[10:35:20] <The_St​argazer> this will be hell
L1158[10:35:32] <The_St​argazer> if there's one thing i'm good at
L1159[10:35:39] <The_St​argazer> it's "fuck this i'm doing it myself"
L1160[10:36:31] <Klea​dron> if i’m going to learn anything from forge modding im going to use the knowledge to port the 1.7.10 version of buildcraft to newer forge versions because i hate new buildcraft
L1161[10:36:49] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: hell yeah
L1162[10:36:49] <The_St​argazer> %s/new//
L1163[10:36:50] <MichiBot> <Kleadron> if i’m going to learn anything from forge modding im going to use the knowledge to port the 1.7.10 version of buildcraft to er forge versions because i hate new buildcraft
L1164[10:36:55] <The_St​argazer> ...
L1165[10:37:07] <Izaya> more options is good
L1166[10:37:08] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: wait
L1167[10:37:10] <Klea​dron> and new buildcraft isnt going to be on forge
L1168[10:37:14] <Izaya> what are your design goals?
L1169[10:37:16] <The_St​argazer> i thought you'd be like "oh god no"
L1170[10:37:17] <The_St​argazer> well
L1171[10:37:28] <The_St​argazer> i want to avoid the problems of HTTP for one
L1172[10:37:33] <The_St​argazer> because that's a massive fucking mess
L1173[10:37:44] <Izaya> that's a uh
L1174[10:37:49] <Izaya> high level protocols
L1175[10:37:53] <The_St​argazer> i kinda want something internet-y
L1176[10:37:54] <Izaya> s/ls/l/
L1177[10:37:54] <MichiBot> <Izaya> high level protocol
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L1180[10:38:10] <Izaya> so decentralised, numeric addresses, etc?
L1181[10:38:42] <Izaya> because I gotta admit
L1182[10:38:43] <The_St​argazer> well, i want to give the user an option between decentralised (local network) and centralised (connecting to a "hub" server)
L1183[10:38:49] <Izaya> routing in IP is rather elegant
L1184[10:38:53] <The_St​argazer> but default to local network
L1185[10:38:56] <Izaya> now that I understand it
L1186[10:38:59] <Izaya> counter idea
L1187[10:39:03] <The_St​argazer> hmm?
L1188[10:39:05] <Izaya> allow connecting local networks together
L1189[10:39:08] <Izaya> in an inter-network
L1190[10:39:13] <Izaya> or internet, for short
L1191[10:39:17] <The_St​argazer> ok now that's a much better idea
L1192[10:39:25] <The_St​argazer> but then
L1193[10:39:39] <The_St​argazer> what if you want to access network C but there is no 'bridge network' B?
L1194[10:40:18] <The_St​argazer> routing to networks via microcontrollers maybe?
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L1198[10:41:07] <The_St​argazer> linked cards might be possible, but uCs don't support those
L1199[10:41:19] <Izaya> I don't understand the question
L1200[10:41:26] <Izaya> if you need inter-connection, inter-connect them
L1201[10:41:34] <The_St​argazer> the problem is
L1202[10:41:43] <The_St​argazer> Network A wants to access something from Network C
L1203[10:41:50] <The_St​argazer> but it can't reach C
L1204[10:41:56] <Izaya> so they're not networked
L1205[10:42:33] <Izaya> if they're not networked they're not networked
L1206[10:42:34] <Klea​dron> Why cant it reach c
L1207[10:42:36] <The_St​argazer> okay, that makes sense.. i'm just tryna figure out how to connect computers without having to go through rela..y..s.. wait nevermind that's how the regular internet works lol
L1208[10:42:37] <Izaya> I don't
L1209[10:42:43] <Izaya> oh okay
L1210[10:43:05] <The_St​argazer> the internet is just a series of relays tho isn't it
L1211[10:43:17] <Izaya> the internet is a series of networks, inter-connected
L1212[10:43:22] <The_St​argazer> to get from A to B you go through C, D, E, F, etc
L1213[10:43:23] <The_St​argazer> yeah
L1214[10:43:24] <The_St​argazer> ok
L1215[10:43:28] <The_St​argazer> that-- that makes sense
L1216[10:43:32] <Izaya> yeah
L1217[10:43:33] <Izaya> it does
L1218[10:43:38] <Izaya> no centralization needed
L1219[10:43:39] <The_St​argazer> and i am stupid
L1220[10:43:52] <The_St​argazer> okay so
L1221[10:43:57] <The_St​argazer> expand on my LAN idea
L1222[10:44:00] <Izaya> companies - and individuals - conspire to make you think the internet is some monolithic centralized entity
L1223[10:44:06] <The_St​argazer> it's not lol
L1224[10:44:39] <The_St​argazer> honestly the whole hub server thing was designed to be easy to implement
L1225[10:44:51] <Izaya> eh
L1226[10:44:54] <The_St​argazer> but now it looks like this'll be a lot easier
L1227[10:45:08] <The_St​argazer> the hub network thing required loads of linked cards
L1228[10:45:11] <Izaya> hub server means you have two classes of network - a local one, and one you talk to a hub server with
L1229[10:45:24] <Izaya> which means you have to handle two things differently
L1230[10:45:54] <The_St​argazer> so, the question is
L1231[10:45:59] <The_St​argazer> how to connect computers?
L1232[10:46:07] <Izaya> ?
L1233[10:46:12] <Klea​dron> internet cable
L1234[10:46:16] <The_St​argazer> i could use relays
L1235[10:46:43] <The_St​argazer> i'm just thinking that a networking protocol isn't much use if you can't network
L1236[10:47:11] <Klea​dron> well then its not a networking protocol
L1237[10:47:22] <Klea​dron> so make a networking protocol
L1238[10:47:33] <Izaya> well I mean
L1239[10:47:37] <Klea​dron> here is how you connect computers
L1240[10:47:38] <Izaya> if you want to connect two computers together
L1241[10:47:41] <Izaya> two separate computers
L1242[10:47:43] <Izaya> you need a relay
L1243[10:47:50] <Izaya> otherwise they're one computer
L1244[10:48:15] <Klea​dron> a supercomputer :o
L1245[10:48:41] <Izaya> it'd be neat to set up something to deal with having multiple computers as one component network
L1246[10:49:44] <Izaya> sharing HDDs wouldn't be a huge issue
L1247[10:49:52] <Izaya> synchronise file handles and stuff ig
L1248[10:50:00] <Izaya> allocating displays would be a more interesting job
L1249[10:50:46] <Klea​dron> Can multiple computers write to one screen
L1250[10:50:50] <The_St​argazer> uh
L1251[10:50:52] <The_St​argazer> don't think so?
L1252[10:51:00] <Klea​dron> damn
L1253[10:51:03] <Izaya> can only bind one GPU at a time
L1254[10:51:05] <The_St​argazer> lemme test
L1255[10:51:05] <Izaya> IIRC
L1256[10:51:18] <Izaya> but two computers could probably control one GPU
L1257[10:51:21] <Izaya> hmhm
L1258[10:51:29] <Izaya> exploiting the component call budget for fun and profit
L1259[10:51:41] <The_St​argazer> YES, YES THEY CAN
L1260[10:51:46] <The_St​argazer> two computers can write to one screen
L1261[10:51:52] <Klea​dron> i was thinking i was really clever and that you could use multiple computers on a screen to get faster drawing
L1262[10:51:59] <Klea​dron> oh
L1263[10:52:02] <Klea​dron> they can
L1264[10:52:04] <Klea​dron> oh god
L1265[10:52:08] <Izaya> one for each colour
L1266[10:52:10] <Izaya> >:D
L1267[10:52:15] <Klea​dron> SHIT THEFUCK
L1268[10:52:26] <The_St​argazer> if i run `ls`
L1269[10:52:28] <The_St​argazer> it runs on both
L1270[10:52:39] <Klea​dron> lol
L1271[10:52:40] <The_St​argazer> heeey
L1272[10:52:44] <The_St​argazer> this could be good for like
L1273[10:52:48] <The_St​argazer> redundancy
L1274[10:52:50] <The_St​argazer> or some shit
L1275[10:52:53] <The_St​argazer> if you mirror a drive
L1276[10:52:59] <Izaya> I'm personally thinking uh
L1277[10:53:05] <Izaya> supercomputers
L1278[10:53:13] <Klea​dron> hope to hell it doesn’t desync
L1279[10:53:25] <Izaya> only downside is that external networking would have to be slow
L1280[10:53:29] <Izaya> or you'd have to use server racks ig
L1281[10:53:35] <The_St​argazer> hahahahahaa
L1282[10:53:43] <The_St​argazer> if i run `while true do computer.beep() end` they both beep
L1283[10:53:58] <The_St​argazer> I CAN DO BEEP CLUSTERS
L1284[10:54:26] <Klea​dron> ok this could just be that one pc is outputing to the screen but both have the same keyboard input
L1285[10:54:29] <The_St​argazer> you fools... you gave me the power to BEEP ENDLESSLY... with MANY COMPUTERS
L1286[10:54:31] <The_St​argazer> no
L1287[10:54:32] <The_St​argazer> both output
L1288[10:54:36] <Klea​dron> god
L1289[10:54:38] <The_St​argazer> same out, same in
L1290[10:54:49] <Izaya> try uh
L1291[10:55:27] <Izaya> io.write(string.format("\27[%i;%iHTest",math.random(1,40),math.random(1,15)))
L1292[10:56:45] <The_St​argazer> it breaks
L1293[10:56:53] <The_St​argazer> very horribly
L1294[10:56:55] <Izaya> is it writing to two different places?
L1295[10:57:00] <The_St​argazer> http://tinyurl.com/ycqovt6x
L1296[10:57:03] <The_St​argazer> probably? idk
L1297[10:57:07] <The_St​argazer> i sync'd them up first
L1298[10:57:44] <Izaya> perfect
L1299[10:57:59] <Izaya> that was to test whether both were drawing or just processing input
L1300[10:59:03] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: request: a RAM card
L1301[10:59:17] <Izaya> costs 0 call budget, only has a few KB of memory
L1302[10:59:23] <Izaya> hell, even less than a KB would be fine
L1303[10:59:47] <Izaya> could use that to pass messages between processes on different machines
L1304[10:59:49] <Izaya> >:D
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L1306[11:01:22] <The_St​argazer> ok, uhh
L1307[11:01:30] <The_St​argazer> how do I send a message to a modem that's connected via relay
L1308[11:01:40] <Izaya> you just
L1309[11:01:46] <Izaya> send the message to the modem's address
L1310[11:01:52] <The_St​argazer> tried
L1311[11:01:57] <The_St​argazer> no `modem_message` event
L1312[11:01:58] <Izaya> so
L1313[11:01:59] <The_St​argazer> oh
L1314[11:02:00] <The_St​argazer> OH
L1315[11:02:03] <The_St​argazer> i forgot to open port
L1316[11:02:05] <Izaya> port open?
L1317[11:02:06] <Izaya> yeah
L1318[11:02:07] <The_St​argazer> 🤦‍♂️
L1319[11:02:11] <Klea​dron> Izaya: Use gpus on a screen to read and write from the screen and use it as memory everything can access :)
L1320[11:02:20] <Izaya> Kleadron: too slow
L1321[11:02:29] <The_St​argazer> it work now
L1322[11:02:30] <The_St​argazer> ty
L1323[11:02:36] <The_St​argazer> i dumb
L1324[11:02:48] <Izaya> it'd be faster to use a network card and a uC as a filter
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L1326[11:03:01] <The_St​argazer> wai-wait
L1327[11:03:10] <The_St​argazer> uCs can have NETWORK CARDS (wired)!?
L1328[11:03:15] <Izaya> ... yes?
L1329[11:03:25] <The_St​argazer> `Can not connect to external components`
L1330[11:03:29] <Izaya> right
L1331[11:03:32] <Izaya> external components
L1332[11:03:34] <The_St​argazer> I..I thought that included other computers via modem
L1333[11:03:40] <Izaya> no, just components
L1334[11:03:43] <The_St​argazer> thrjfjmgmghm
L1335[11:03:44] <The_St​argazer> agggh
L1336[11:03:56] <The_St​argazer> how did i not realize that
L1337[11:03:58] <Izaya> additionally
L1338[11:04:08] <Izaya> uCs do not pass through network messages
L1339[11:04:39] <The_St​argazer> i have a problem tho
L1340[11:04:42] <Izaya> so you can use one to selectively filter messages
L1341[11:04:50] <The_St​argazer> for it to be decentralized i can't rely on a DNS server
L1342[11:04:58] <The_St​argazer> how do I do hostname > addr maps?
L1343[11:05:29] <Izaya> you could do something like uh
L1344[11:05:32] <Izaya> not AARP
L1345[11:06:00] <Izaya> Name Binding Protocol?
L1346[11:06:07] <The_St​argazer> AARP?
L1347[11:06:24] <Izaya> Apple Address Resolution Protocol, it did the same thing as ARP in IP networks
L1348[11:06:49] <The_St​argazer> oh
L1349[11:07:36] <Izaya> well
L1350[11:07:54] <Izaya> I'd start with looking into zeroconf and Name Binding Protocol
L1351[11:07:59] <Izaya> see how it's been done before
L1352[11:08:27] <The_St​argazer> will do
L1353[11:10:52] <Izaya> generally speaking
L1354[11:10:55] <Izaya> if it's a concept
L1355[11:10:58] <Izaya> there's probably a paper about it
L1356[11:11:08] <The_St​argazer> problem
L1357[11:11:12] <The_St​argazer> i do not understand papers
L1358[11:11:33] <Izaya> nah it's all g
L1359[11:11:44] <Forec​aster> isn't it some kind of flat thing with stuff on it?
L1360[11:13:01] <The_St​argazer> haha
L1361[11:13:09] <The_St​argazer> i have a solution to the problem tho
L1362[11:13:13] <The_St​argazer> (not the paper one)
L1363[11:14:18] <The_St​argazer> i could make some sort of addressbook program (yes ik i'm basically re-inventing the internet) which a) stores known hosts (with custom names) and also can request a lookup
L1364[11:14:26] <The_St​argazer> basically
L1365[11:14:42] <The_St​argazer> when a computer connects to a network
L1366[11:15:02] <The_St​argazer> it sends some information to the microcontroller (micro)controlling the network
L1367[11:15:07] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/eNPQGWM.png
L1368[11:15:14] <The_St​argazer> the uC then stores that in tmpfs
L1369[11:15:37] <The_St​argazer> i-- oh
L1370[11:15:49] <The_St​argazer> so i'm basically making NBP without even realizing
L1371[11:16:00] <The_St​argazer> huh.
L1372[11:18:24] <The_St​argazer> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/qaloyoxiku
L1373[11:18:30] <The_St​argazer> ?
L1374[11:18:44] <Izaya> not against it but I mean
L1375[11:18:50] <Izaya> are addresses static or dynamic?
L1376[11:19:00] <The_St​argazer> well
L1377[11:19:02] <The_St​argazer> they are static
L1378[11:19:09] <The_St​argazer> they're just the modem address
L1379[11:19:13] <The_St​argazer> eg `b2ca8ef1-b481-42c0-b611-01cc8d957d4d`
L1380[11:19:22] <Izaya> aah
L1381[11:19:34] <Inari> %sip
L1382[11:19:35] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating black potion (New!). Inari reboots for an update for 7 minutes.
L1383[11:19:36] * Izaya isn't a huge fan of interface addresses
L1384[11:19:41] <Izaya> though, that's how IP works, so \o/
L1385[11:20:12] <The_St​argazer> yeah, i guess it works
L1386[11:21:03] <The_St​argazer> the file format would look something like Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ixukufinek
L1387[11:21:30] <Izaya> counter-idea
L1388[11:21:32] <Izaya> csv
L1389[11:21:39] <The_St​argazer> so
L1390[11:22:09] <The_St​argazer> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/exayuyiqin or `myfriend,b2ca8ef1-b481-42c0-b611-01cc8d957d4d,FREN`
L1391[11:22:23] <Izaya> the latter
L1392[11:22:29] <The_St​argazer> ah
L1393[11:22:35] <The_St​argazer> that works
L1394[11:22:38] <The_St​argazer> and it's compact
L1395[11:22:46] <Izaya> and you can open it with LO Calc
L1396[11:23:14] <The_St​argazer> libreoffice?
L1397[11:23:18] <Izaya> ye
L1398[11:24:57] <Izaya> CSV is widely supported and easy to process
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L1401[11:37:44] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: sorry about the delay
L1402[11:37:48] <The_St​argazer> internet did a fucky
L1403[11:37:54] <The_St​argazer> also
L1404[11:38:59] <The_St​argazer> yeah it's easy to process
L1405[11:39:03] <The_St​argazer> i just split by `,`
L1406[11:39:20] <The_St​argazer> also since it's one line
L1407[11:39:23] <The_St​argazer> i can store it in one file
L1408[11:42:26] <Izaya> for line in file:lines() do name,addr,desc = line:match("(.-),(.-),(.+)") addrs[name]={addr,desc} end
L1409[11:44:42] <The_St​argazer> ye
L1410[11:46:09] <Forec​aster> hm
L1411[11:47:01] <Forec​aster> when phpMyAdmin copies a database it can use structure only, structure and data, or data only...
L1412[11:47:08] <Forec​aster> what does data only do... oO
L1413[11:47:43] <The_St​argazer> >php
L1414[11:47:48] <The_St​argazer> why
L1415[11:47:53] <The_St​argazer> why do you torture yourself
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L1418[11:48:56] <ben_mkiv|afk> probably to copy the data to another table with a different structure
L1419[11:49:51] <Inari> PHP is alright
L1420[11:50:02] <Inari> People who complain about PHP largely think of PHP 4 not 7/8
L1421[11:50:56] <Forec​aster> well, the operation creates a new database
L1422[11:51:05] <Forec​aster> but if there is no structure where does it put the data
L1423[11:51:18] <Forec​aster> I have to try it
L1424[11:51:26] <ben_mkiv|afk> nvm, i was thinking about tables not DB
L1425[11:52:00] <Forec​aster> oh, `Table 'testcopy.ads' doesn't exist`
L1426[11:53:10] <Forec​aster> weird, it tried to insert stuff into the table `ads` under the name I specified, but it didn't create anything
L1427[11:54:17] <Forec​aster> oh right
L1428[11:54:21] <Forec​aster> ads is a table I made
L1429[11:54:44] <Forec​aster> seems you're right ben, it's just to copy data between databases with the same structure
L1430[11:56:01] <Forec​aster> now does this thing have a setup thingy...
L1431[11:56:48] <Forec​aster> seems not
L1432[11:59:47] <The_St​argazer> ~ocdoc filesystem
L1433[11:59:52] <The_St​argazer> oof
L1434[11:59:56] <Forec​aster> ocdoc is down
L1435[12:03:18] <Forec​aster> mmmng
L1436[12:03:25] <Forec​aster> I dislike this system now
L1437[12:03:32] <Forec​aster> I want to re-build it, but I don't have time
L1438[12:04:04] <Forec​aster> > tries to go to admin page, "system in maintenance mode"
L1439[12:04:06] <Forec​aster> thanks
L1440[12:04:18] <Forec​aster> I guess I'll edit the database to tell you not to do that
L1441[12:04:47] <The_St​argazer> can io.lines operate on an already-opened-and-fully-read file?
L1442[12:04:47] <Forec​aster> whoever made this thing is terrible! (it was me)
L1443[12:06:17] <Forec​aster> or I can just copy all the settings from the old instance
L1444[12:07:34] <The_St​argazer> opening something in write mode deletes the contents, right?
L1445[12:07:51] <Forec​aster> not until you actually write I don't think
L1446[12:07:56] <The_St​argazer> ah, thanks
L1447[12:09:27] <Forec​aster> I wonder if I can create a proxy for googles login redirect thing
L1448[12:10:12] <Forec​aster> I'd love to be able to set up instances without having to add new redirect urls to googles dev console
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L1450[12:11:02] * adadadaada dad
L1451[12:11:08] <The_St​argazer> ..what
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L1453[12:11:16] <The_St​argazer> oh
L1454[12:11:17] <The_St​argazer> right
L1455[12:11:19] <The_St​argazer> one of those
L1456[12:11:25] <The_St​argazer> [sigh]
L1457[12:11:40] <The_St​argazer> you're not original, so please go away
L1458[12:12:03] * adadadaada ada)
L1459[12:12:47] <The_St​argazer> we do Lua here
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L1463[12:17:50] <The_St​argazer> this line is erroring.. what am I doing wrong? http://tinyurl.com/yc7p3xhx
L1464[12:17:57] <The_St​argazer> have I forgotten how tables table
L1465[12:18:23] <SquidDev> Yeah, you don't want the quotes.
L1466[12:18:28] <The_St​argazer> oh, ty
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L1468[12:18:28] <Kristo​pher38> Either remove the quotes or add [] around the keys
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L1470[12:19:28] <The_St​argazer> so here's a hella cursed thing
L1471[12:19:34] <The_St​argazer> when i remove an entry
L1472[12:19:48] <The_St​argazer> i recreate the entire book from scratch
L1473[12:19:48] <The_St​argazer> is there a better solution to remove a line from a file?
L1474[12:19:59] <The_St​argazer> without knowing the number of said line
L1475[12:20:23] <Forec​aster> don't think so
L1476[12:21:48] <The_St​argazer> how do i create a file
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L1478[12:22:01] <The_St​argazer> is there an io function?
L1479[12:22:29] <Forec​aster> when you io.open if it doesn't exist and it's a write mode it should create it
L1480[12:23:45] <The_St​argazer> oh, yeah, forgot to make the dir :P
L1481[12:24:06] <The_St​argazer> `li.cil.repack.com.naef.jnlua.LuaRuntimeException: attempt to literally persist userdata` uhh
L1482[12:24:19] <Forec​aster> looks fun
L1483[12:24:24] <The_St​argazer> yeah
L1484[12:24:26] <The_St​argazer> what is that error
L1485[12:25:08] <The_St​argazer> Huh
L1486[12:25:14] <The_St​argazer> apparently narrator says colour codes..
L1487[12:26:14] <The_St​argazer> also it says `db` as `decibels`
L1488[12:27:53] <The_St​argazer> it, ah, it works :D http://tinyurl.com/y8mntupn
L1489[12:30:01] <Te​sca> so i saw with the debug card you can give items with specified nbt in form as string, how does that nbt have to look like? like the way it gets output by MineTweaker?
L1490[12:30:16] <TuxM​an20> @The_Stargazer @Forecaster Quick update: forking CTIFView to cycle through pictures in a folder took about 30 minutes to do! So now I can create a PowerPoint document, export the slides as pictures, convert them... and present in Minecraft 😜 smooth!
L1491[12:30:25] <The_St​argazer> nice
L1492[12:30:37] <The_St​argazer> now use this at work :D
L1493[12:30:47] <The_St​argazer> (assuming you have a job doing that)
L1494[12:30:56] <Forec​aster> @Tesca minecraft format yeah
L1495[12:31:11] <Forec​aster> which would be what CT uses as well
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L1497[12:31:54] <TuxM​an20> @The_Stargazer Yup! That was the plan all along 😜 I recreated our meeting office with Chisel & Bits and I’ll share my screen with WebEx
L1498[12:31:58] <Te​sca> thx forcaster
L1499[12:31:59] <The_St​argazer> haha
L1500[12:32:56] <The_St​argazer> and as you can see.. it all works! http://tinyurl.com/y8qto2lz
L1501[12:33:17] <The_St​argazer> er, oh
L1502[12:33:20] <The_St​argazer> well, not quite
L1503[12:33:26] <Kristo​pher38> @TuxMan20 this sounds really cool, post some screenshots later if you're allowed to
L1504[12:33:31] <The_St​argazer> i still need to fix one thing..
L1505[12:36:06] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: CSV formatted too! http://tinyurl.com/y7w6uefo
L1506[12:38:16] <TuxM​an20> @Kristopher38 I’ll make sure to post on the forum on how it went 😜
L1507[12:43:53] <Te​sca> @Forecaster can you give me an example? i tried this and it didnt work:
L1508[12:43:53] <Te​sca> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ubitodapuz
L1509[12:44:04] <The_St​argazer> try `:insertItem`
L1510[12:44:11] <The_St​argazer> also
L1511[12:44:15] <The_St​argazer> why `as short`
L1512[12:44:27] <Forec​aster> what exactly do you mean "didn't work"?
L1513[12:45:44] <Te​sca> ah the `as short` part was the problem
L1514[12:45:55] <Te​sca> i used the output from minetweaker where it needs that
L1515[12:45:57] <Te​sca> thx 🙂
L1516[12:46:02] <The_St​argazer> np
L1517[12:46:38] <Forec​aster> hm, the in-game doc is wrong for insertItem
L1518[12:47:02] <Forec​aster> it claims nbt is optional, but if I exclude it it says #4 (string expected, got no value)
L1519[12:47:16] <Forec​aster> @payonel
L1520[12:47:37] <Krae​tzin> You can just give it an empty string
L1521[12:47:54] <Forec​aster> I'm aware, but the docs shouldn't lie to you :P
L1522[12:48:11] <Forec​aster> if it's required it shouldn't be marked as optional
L1523[12:48:13] <Krae​tzin> Hehe, well it's still kind of "optional"
L1524[12:48:38] <Forec​aster> no, the docs say you can pass nil (or exclude the parameter)
L1525[12:48:44] <Krae​tzin> Ahh fair
L1526[12:49:01] <Krae​tzin> I do remember it catching me out too
L1527[12:50:46] <Forec​aster> wiki claims the same thing
L1528[12:51:05] <The_St​argazer> the native TNTree
L1529[12:51:44] <The_St​argazer> crater http://tinyurl.com/yd7dlphw
L1530[12:55:40] <Forec​aster> hm, I could totally make it take the mod name and version from the file when you add it...
L1531[12:55:42] <Forec​aster> dangit
L1532[12:56:20] <Forec​aster> is it worth adding that to this garbage version... probably not
L1533[12:56:21] <Forec​aster> >:
L1534[13:02:22] <Kristo​pher38> @payonel actually i'm not disappointed, you said earlier that bitblts won't be as fast as some envisioned them to be because we want to respect servers and that's fair, I understand that. And users can still achieve significant speedup if they carefully manage their buffers
L1535[13:40:05] <Forec​aster> %sip
L1536[13:40:06] <MichiBot> You drink a ripe chocolate potion (New!). Forec​aster briefly feel like they have just stepped out of a car.
L1537[13:50:27] * AmandaC yawns, stretches
L1538[13:50:37] <AmandaC> Meowning nerds
L1539[13:51:27] <Forec​aster> hello
L1540[13:51:30] <Forec​aster> %sip
L1541[13:51:30] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating coralcreep potion (New!). The bottle turns into an apple.
L1542[13:52:25] * Lizzy meows at AmandaC
L1543[13:52:46] <stephan48> huhu AmandaC
L1544[13:53:06] <Forec​aster> ... setting up a minecraft server feels super weird for some reason
L1545[13:53:09] <Forec​aster> it's been such a long time
L1546[13:56:27] <AmandaC> I mis-read coralcreep as corpreate somehow
L1547[14:01:25] <Elfi> %quaff
L1548[14:01:25] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly water potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! You hear a maniacal laugh as your cursor flips upside down!
L1549[14:07:48] <Forec​aster> smelly water is probably not good
L1550[14:07:58] <Forec​aster> %splash Amanda
L1551[14:07:59] <MichiBot> You fling a smooth bavarium potion (New!) that splashes onto Amanda. Amanda flinches as the potion is thrown but nothing arrives to hit them...
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L1553[14:09:29] * AmandaC looks around
L1554[14:10:10] <Forec​aster> hm, forge did not like java-11
L1555[14:14:00] <AmandaC> MC itself can't use newer than 9
L1556[14:14:21] <AmandaC> rathr, newer than 8
L1557[14:14:28] <AmandaC> 9 broke the world
L1558[14:14:55] <Forec​aster> I noticed
L1559[14:14:57] <Forec​aster> also, crud
L1560[14:15:04] <Forec​aster> my mod isn't loading anything on a server
L1561[14:15:05] <Forec​aster> :|
L1562[14:17:40] <Forec​aster> I thought items would be registered universally...
L1563[14:17:59] <ben_mkiv|afk> what mc version?
L1564[14:18:08] <Forec​aster> 1.12.2
L1565[14:18:35] <ben_mkiv|afk> actually they should
L1566[14:19:17] <Forec​aster> well, my modid didn't exist and the creative tab (which did get created) was empty
L1567[14:19:36] <ben_mkiv|afk> is it empty in singleplayer, too?
L1568[14:19:37] <Forec​aster> by that I mean no items with my modid exist
L1569[14:19:40] <Forec​aster> no
L1570[14:19:55] <Forec​aster> it works fine in SP or I wouldn't have been surprised
L1571[14:20:30] <Forec​aster> oh... heh
L1572[14:20:38] <Forec​aster> I didn't actually upload any mods to the server...
L1573[14:20:42] <Forec​aster> that... that explains it
L1574[14:20:56] <ben_mkiv|afk> %shell Forecaster
L1575[14:20:56] <MichiBot> ben_mk​iv|afk loads obama into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near Forec​aster, reb​orn, and Mich​iyo. They take 1d6 => 4, 1d6 => 2, and 1d6 => 6 splash damage respectively.
L1576[14:20:57] <MichiBot> Obama poofs away in a sparkly cloud.
L1577[14:27:07] <Forec​aster> that's better...
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L1579[14:45:14] <The_St​argazer> server launch in 0215 hours
L1580[15:02:23] <AmandaC> What, no OpenTablets in the pack? D:
L1581[15:03:24] <AmandaC> ( https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/mc-opentablets )
L1582[15:03:57] <AmandaC> ( Makes it so that tablets implement the Forge Energy capability, and when on both sides, allows middle-clicking to trigger a tablet_scan )
L1583[15:06:28] <AmandaC> .... wtf
L1584[15:06:55] <AmandaC> Watching my MC Eternal servrcome back up, did... did the log just flash by saying "... You're horny"?O.o
L1585[15:07:17] <Forec​aster> wut
L1586[15:07:44] <AmandaC> It only appeared for a split second, in the input bar, then more logs came in, but that's what I thought it said
L1587[15:09:07] <The_St​argazer> AmandaC: I thought you said "don't use my stuff"
L1588[15:09:19] <The_St​argazer> also I had no idea that mod even existed :P
L1589[15:09:32] <The_St​argazer> also: stuff http://tinyurl.com/ya4zoece
L1590[15:09:44] <AmandaC> When did I say that? Although, it might be a problem on high-user servers, but otherwise OT should be fine to use
L1591[15:09:49] <The_St​argazer> now has a search function!
L1592[15:10:02] <The_St​argazer> also @Forecaster your splitter function does actually return a table :P
L1593[15:10:18] <Forec​aster> yes?
L1594[15:10:31] <Forec​aster> what else would it return?
L1595[15:10:35] <The_St​argazer> i thought you said that `a, b, c = splitter(d, ",")` was possible lol
L1596[15:10:42] <Forec​aster> it is
L1597[15:10:45] <The_St​argazer> no
L1598[15:10:47] <The_St​argazer> it's not :P
L1599[15:10:47] <Forec​aster> because it returns a table
L1600[15:11:05] <The_St​argazer> i always get `a` as a table
L1601[15:11:08] <The_St​argazer> `b` and `c` are nil
L1602[15:11:08] <AmandaC> if I did say that, I was referring to my oc-filesystem repo, which contains all my OC fucking about, which is highly unstable and I have no plans to support people who take stuff from it
L1603[15:11:19] <AmandaC> oc-fileserver*
L1604[15:11:27] <The_St​argazer> oh yeah that was probably it
L1605[15:13:39] <The_St​argazer> also I didn't know opentablets existed :P
L1606[15:13:55] <Forec​aster> oh, I remembered wrong, I thought you could do that for some reason
L1607[15:14:06] <Forec​aster> you can if you wrap the table in table.unpack
L1608[15:14:07] <The_St​argazer> yeah you can't
L1609[15:14:09] <AmandaC> That's because it didn't, until 2-3 weeks ago. :P
L1610[15:14:10] <The_St​argazer> oh
L1611[15:14:35] <AmandaC> but I talked about it a bit in here while I was hacking it together
L1612[15:14:54] <The_St​argazer> this llama straightup walked into a fire and died
L1613[15:15:03] <The_St​argazer> mob AI still has a looooong way to go it looks
L1614[15:15:15] <Forec​aster> %lua local a, b, c = table.unpack({"a", "b", "c"}) print(b)
L1615[15:15:16] <MichiBot> b
L1616[15:15:25] <The_St​argazer> Huh.
L1617[15:15:27] <The_St​argazer> Neat.
L1618[15:16:00] <Forec​aster> also it's not my splitter, I grabbed it from somewhere
L1619[15:16:04] <The_St​argazer> oh lol
L1620[15:16:28] <Forec​aster> lua patterns are a pain and I have as little to do with them as I can
L1621[15:19:53] <The_St​argazer> ^
L1622[15:23:53] <The_St​argazer> how does `checkArg` work?
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L1625[15:27:15] <Forec​aster> no idea, that's something in OpenOS I think
L1626[15:27:19] <The_St​argazer> ah
L1627[15:27:36] <AmandaC> nope, it's available from EEPROMs as well.
L1628[15:27:41] <The_St​argazer> "ETA ∞" that's nice
L1629[15:27:55] <The_St​argazer> the end of time will occur and my movie still won't be downloaded
L1630[15:28:16] <AmandaC> checkArg(position, value, types...) -- it'll throw a pretty error if value isn't one of the given types, using position to specify which arg is invalid
L1631[15:28:39] <The_St​argazer> ty
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L1633[15:46:13] <Forec​aster> man, there's so much I've forgotten
L1634[15:55:37] <Kristo​pher38> robots can't use buckets to pick up fluids?
L1635[15:55:49] <Forec​aster> uh, they should
L1636[15:55:53] <Forec​aster> I think
L1637[15:56:01] <Forec​aster> or it needs a fluid controller upgrade
L1638[15:56:19] <Forec​aster> I know that gives it an internal tank
L1639[15:56:39] <Kristo​pher38> hmm, I gave the robot a bucket into its tool slot and used robot.useDown(), it doesn't work
L1640[15:57:02] <Kristo​pher38> maybe it's specifically blocked to give value to tank upgrades
L1641[15:57:03] <Forec​aster> it might not be able to because it has to use the tank controller
L1642[15:57:16] <Kristo​pher38> not a tank controller, a tank upgrade*
L1643[15:57:33] <Forec​aster> the tank controller is the upgrade
L1644[15:57:51] <Kristo​pher38> there's tank upgrade and there's tank controller upgrade...
L1645[15:57:57] <Forec​aster> oh
L1646[15:58:02] <Forec​aster> I thought they were the same thing
L1647[15:58:06] <The_St​argazer> tank upgrades add more space
L1648[15:58:12] <The_St​argazer> tank controllers allow you to use that space
L1649[15:58:13] <The_St​argazer> iirc
L1650[15:58:19] <B​ob> one addds space the other gives controll
L1651[15:58:27] <B​ob> like with the inventory ones
L1652[15:58:31] <B​ob> theres a expansion and a controller
L1653[15:59:06] <The_St​argazer> are threads a `table`?
L1654[15:59:16] <Kristo​pher38> you can use tanks without the tank controller, much like you can use an inventory space without inventory controller
L1655[15:59:17] <Forec​aster> a lot of things in lua are tables
L1656[15:59:27] <AmandaC> OpenOS threads yes, lua coroutines no
L1657[15:59:34] <The_St​argazer> thank
L1658[15:59:43] <The_St​argazer> @Forecaster any chairs?
L1659[15:59:55] <Forec​aster> nope
L1660[16:00:01] <The_St​argazer> aw :(
L1661[16:00:18] <Kristo​pher38> oh seems they can use buckets to grab water after all 🤔
L1662[16:01:18] <Kristo​pher38> but for some reason only if the water block is in front of them
L1663[16:01:55] <The_St​argazer> um
L1664[16:02:01] <The_St​argazer> when i load http://tinyurl.com/y7danptl
L1665[16:02:07] <The_St​argazer> when i write http://tinyurl.com/ydht5pfo
L1666[16:02:14] <The_St​argazer> where is the extra 100 bytes coming from
L1667[16:02:31] <B​ob> ~~code outside of OC~~
L1668[16:02:52] <The_St​argazer> (is that serious or a joke, cant tell lol)
L1669[16:03:39] <AmandaC> seems like it might be a visual bug in the edit command, paging @Payonel
L1670[16:07:43] <The_St​argazer> yea `du booklib.lua` says 2799
L1671[16:07:52] <The_St​argazer> so i guess.. where is the 100 bytes going?
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L1673[16:11:05] <Forec​aster> why did they decide to display barrier blocks as floating symbols
L1674[16:11:15] <Forec​aster> it becomes such a mess when there's a lot of them
L1675[16:11:23] <The_St​argazer> ^
L1676[16:11:26] <Forec​aster> should've just drawn them as solid blocks
L1677[16:11:37] <The_St​argazer> it's even a particle
L1678[16:11:46] <The_St​argazer> so idk if it shows with minimal particles
L1679[16:12:04] <Forec​aster> nope
L1680[16:12:06] <Forec​aster> it does not
L1681[16:12:09] <The_St​argazer> yeah
L1682[16:12:11] <The_St​argazer> that's.. stupid
L1683[16:12:28] <The_St​argazer> plus they stay
L1684[16:12:36] <The_St​argazer> after you stop holding the block
L1685[16:12:51] <Forec​aster> only for a couple of seconds
L1686[16:12:56] <The_St​argazer> yea but still
L1687[16:12:59] <The_St​argazer> it shouldn't stay at all
L1688[16:13:42] <Forec​aster> I'm not really bothered about that
L1689[16:13:54] <Forec​aster> much less than them being indicated by particles in the first place
L1690[16:16:33] <The_St​argazer> i have a saved emo(te|ji) for this (as an image tho since I don't have nitro:
L1691[16:16:45] <The_St​argazer> http://tinyurl.com/y8a86awm
L1692[16:16:55] <The_St​argazer> works perfectly :D
L1693[16:17:42] <The_St​argazer> it's aptly named `:thonkjang:` (from fabric discord)
L1694[16:23:32] <Ar​iri> Hot fix is live on the same link, just download the new zip
L1695[16:23:58] <The_St​argazer> 👍 thanks for the last-minute pre-server-oh-shit patch
L1696[16:24:03] <The_St​argazer> day zero DLC :P
L1697[16:29:26] <Ar​iri> Half an hour to server launch
L1698[16:29:48] <The_St​argazer> \o/
L1699[16:29:50] <The_St​argazer> also
L1700[16:29:51] <The_St​argazer> `wouldn't'nt`
L1701[16:30:29] <The_St​argazer> `'nt` double negatives
L1702[16:30:32] <The_St​argazer> i like it
L1703[16:30:54] <The_St​argazer> now i can say to random idiots "you are smartn't and I am smartn't'nt"
L1704[16:33:07] <The_St​argazer> @Saghetti, @Kleadron, AmandaC, Izaya: i am going to inform you that there is half an hour to server launch and you have all expressed interest so I figured i would notify you
L1705[16:33:07] <The_St​argazer> ~~pleasedontkillme~~
L1706[16:33:30] <Kristo​pher38> hey @Ariri, could I also get whitelisted?
L1707[16:33:45] <The_St​argazer> there isn't a traditional whitelist afaik
L1708[16:33:51] <Ar​iri> Oh yes sorry, I just woke up so I missed your message
L1709[16:34:01] <Kristo​pher38> ah sure, no problem :D
L1710[16:34:03] <The_St​argazer> iirc it's mostly just "no randoms"
L1711[16:34:06] <Ar​iri> Make sure you download the latest pack ito MMC, IP address is on its way
L1712[16:34:12] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: thanks for the heads up
L1713[16:34:21] <The_St​argazer> np
L1714[16:34:24] <Sagh​etti> :realshit:
L1715[16:34:24] <PwnageP​ineapple> What's the pack?
L1716[16:34:28] <Izaya> I'm playing MP stellaris
L1717[16:34:30] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
L1718[16:34:33] <The_St​argazer> dw20 custom
L1719[16:34:35] <Izaya> but people should be going away soon™
L1720[16:34:40] <The_St​argazer> ..ized fork
L1721[16:34:43] <Ar​iri> Like really custom lol
L1722[16:34:47] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> wait
L1723[16:34:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> do we still have OSSM?
L1724[16:34:56] <The_St​argazer> should do
L1725[16:34:56] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i wanna try some shit
L1726[16:35:09] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 'cause ariri should have a special build of OSSM
L1727[16:35:19] <Ar​iri> Heres the download
L1728[16:35:20] <Ar​iri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/8mBYkcLJcKRC4sQ
L1729[16:35:27] <Ar​iri> Catgirl: Didnt we already? :P
L1730[16:35:31] <Ar​iri> AdorableCatgirl: Didnt we already? :P [Edited]
L1731[16:35:31] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ooo
L1732[16:35:36] <The_St​argazer> yeah im just hoping i didnt yeet it
L1733[16:35:40] <The_St​argazer> when i updated everything
L1734[16:35:44] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> also speaking of
L1735[16:35:48] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i need to work on OSSM
L1736[16:35:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> to add useful features
L1737[16:35:54] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> like RF
L1738[16:35:57] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> but RF is the hard part
L1739[16:36:08] <The_St​argazer> OSSM confirmed
L1740[16:36:12] <Ar​iri> monch.RF()
L1741[16:36:14] <The_St​argazer> Yeetn't
L1742[16:36:20] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> hey
L1743[16:36:21] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> hey
L1744[16:36:21] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> hey
L1745[16:36:48] <The_St​argazer> build 1.0 from 31/12/19
L1746[16:36:53] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> you know what's cool? lzma
L1747[16:36:57] <The_St​argazer> or so
L1748[16:37:05] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> it's build 1.0+
L1749[16:37:17] <The_St​argazer> oh shit
L1750[16:37:26] <The_St​argazer> i may have yeeted the dev/special build
L1751[16:37:30] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> it has one line commented out
L1752[16:37:42] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> see if it adds a special eeprom or not
L1753[16:37:49] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 'cause that was causing issues
L1754[16:38:04] <The_St​argazer> yea its just `opensolidstate-1.0.jar`
L1755[16:38:12] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> well
L1756[16:38:17] <The_St​argazer> shit
L1757[16:38:18] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> check if it loads the eeprom or not
L1758[16:38:23] <Ar​iri> Note: The server config is unlikely to remain in sync with client due to balancing. For instance, EnvTech is getting debuffed in som areas
L1759[16:38:24] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 'cause i didn't rename it
L1760[16:38:39] <The_St​argazer> oh so it's literally just one change lol
L1761[16:38:43] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yea
L1762[16:38:49] <AmandaC> I'll take the IP as well plox, I'll give it a try
L1763[16:38:52] <The_St​argazer> @Ariri how much debuff
L1764[16:38:56] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> anyways, i need to work on OSSM again
L1765[16:39:01] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> maybe even my power gen mod :^)
L1766[16:39:05] <The_St​argazer> your WHAT
L1767[16:39:12] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> power
L1768[16:39:14] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> generation
L1769[16:39:21] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> massive fuckoff powerplants
L1770[16:39:24] <The_St​argazer> you have one?!
L1771[16:39:28] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i'm working on one
L1772[16:39:28] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> slowly
L1773[16:39:33] <The_St​argazer> gen mod not fuckoff powerplant
L1774[16:39:35] <Ar​iri> Still working on it, but so far solar panel efficiency is about 1/4 and im considering removing all forms of power gen from it
L1775[16:39:39] <Ar​iri> Its kind of too easy
L1776[16:39:43] <The_St​argazer> @Ariri yes
L1777[16:39:43] <AmandaC> Overall I'm not that fond of PvP though, requires a level of commitment I'm not that fond of doing, since it usually ends in you getitng stomped by someone who has more free time / motivation than you.
L1778[16:39:43] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> everything will be MODULAR
L1779[16:39:47] <The_St​argazer> solar power NEEDS a debuff
L1780[16:39:53] <The_St​argazer> AmandaC: PVP is opt-out
L1781[16:40:03] <AmandaC> sounds good then
L1782[16:40:13] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> also everything will probably be pretty expensive but
L1783[16:40:14] <The_St​argazer> just put a sign at spawn
L1784[16:40:17] <The_St​argazer> saying you don't want to pvp
L1785[16:40:18] <Ar​iri> Anything else needs nerfing that you can think of right now?
L1786[16:40:18] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> it also can generate a lot of power
L1787[16:40:19] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so
L1788[16:40:21] <Michiyo> The only good PvP is no PvP :P
L1789[16:40:25] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> it balances out
L1790[16:40:26] <The_St​argazer> haha yeah
L1791[16:40:35] <The_St​argazer> when it comes to stabbing people with swords im bad
L1792[16:40:47] <Ar​iri> Disable the personal nanobot beacon... or not...
L1793[16:40:52] <The_St​argazer> when it comes to obliterating their base and everything they worked on for months... not so much
L1794[16:40:54] <The_St​argazer> @Ariri YES
L1795[16:40:56] <Ar​iri> Or make it cost insane power
L1796[16:40:57] <The_St​argazer> or
L1797[16:41:03] <The_St​argazer> disable creative flight modifier
L1798[16:41:10] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> the only pvp i like is one where the game doesn't shit itself if you have over 100ms ping
L1799[16:41:12] <The_St​argazer> that feels way too cheap
L1800[16:41:29] <Kristo​pher38> Can I be non-pvp but then pvp? I won't have much time for the next month or so, but after that I should have plenty
L1801[16:41:44] <The_St​argazer> i mean, probably? just notify the server
L1802[16:41:47] <Ar​iri> Yes, but you must play as you would normally.
L1803[16:41:55] <Ar​iri> Then remove the sign.
L1804[16:42:09] <Ar​iri> And do whatever
L1805[16:42:19] <AmandaC> awww, no stockpiling nukes then going non-pvp to nuke everyone? :P
L1806[16:43:14] <The_St​argazer> that'd probably violate an RL war treaty so no
L1807[16:43:26] <Kristo​pher38> sure, it's just that I won't be able to commit myself fully to playing rn
L1808[16:44:01] <Ar​iri> Thats not a problem. Thats what opting out is also for. As Ive said before, its an honor system, so dont abuse it.
L1809[16:44:40] ⇨ Joins: Inari (~Pinkishu@pd9e8f34a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
L1810[16:44:41] <Ar​iri> I dont see a way to increase the energy cost of just the personal beacon, so I think I may disable it.
L1811[16:45:09] <The_St​argazer> yeah that's probably better
L1812[16:45:14] <The_St​argazer> some of it's modifiers are hella OP
L1813[16:47:57] <AmandaC> Still no OT. sadafice. :P
L1814[16:48:34] <AmandaC> I promise there's no logic bomb to give me op or anything. Definately not on line 34 of OpenTablets.kt
L1815[16:49:11] <Ar​iri> Stargazer: Did you figure out why emp missiles werent craftable? Do you think we you could a script for it if you didnt?
L1816[16:49:58] <Ar​iri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/ooyAFWrrGLJPLSz/preview
L1817[16:50:00] <The_St​argazer> emp missiles arent?
L1818[16:50:03] <The_St​argazer> huh
L1819[16:50:08] <Ar​iri> They werent in the last pack
L1820[16:50:32] <AmandaC> Yup, def. nothing like a logic bomb on line 34, considering it's an import statement: `import kotlin.math.min`
L1821[16:50:48] <The_St​argazer> 🤔
L1822[16:51:47] <AmandaC> ( I just picked a random number from the ether for that joke. )
L1823[16:51:51] <Ar​iri> Yeah, EMP explosives have no recipe
L1824[16:52:03] <Ar​iri> Wheres that script for craft tweaker?
L1825[16:52:06] <Forec​aster> form of: missile!
L1826[16:52:13] <Ar​iri> XD
L1827[16:52:40] <AmandaC> shape of: War criminal!
L1828[16:53:07] <Ar​iri> shape of: crater!
L1829[16:55:21] <Forec​aster> shape of: water
L1830[16:56:28] <The_St​argazer> 00:02:30
L1831[16:56:52] * AmandaC steals the keys to the server, runs off with them into the forest
L1832[16:58:39] <Ar​iri> Oh nu! Whatever will I do!
L1833[16:58:39] <Ar​iri> sees Amanda disappear
L1834[16:58:40] <Ar​iri> Ah well, rip the server. :P
L1835[16:58:43] <The_St​argazer> 00:01:15
L1836[16:59:05] <Ar​iri> Stargazer shhh I dont want anyone to realize I just relaunched the server
L1837[17:00:37] <The_St​argazer> 🤔
L1838[17:02:41] <Ar​iri> Uh ladies, gentleman, cats, foxes and robots, we are experiencing minor technical difficulties. They should be resolved momentarily.
L1839[17:03:20] <Ar​iri> Also i need a better way to run the .sh in the background bc I dont know how to inject a command to console via pm2
L1840[17:03:43] <Forec​aster> screen?
L1841[17:04:17] <AmandaC> tmux?
L1842[17:04:19] <AmandaC> byobu?
L1843[17:04:26] <The_St​argazer> ssh?
L1844[17:04:34] <The_St​argazer> are we listing terminals
L1845[17:04:42] <Forec​aster> no
L1846[17:04:46] <AmandaC> no,w ays to run things in the background
L1847[17:04:51] <AmandaC> while preseving input
L1848[17:04:57] <The_St​argazer> oh
L1849[17:04:59] <Forec​aster> screen, tmux and byobu are windowing programs
L1850[17:04:59] <Ar​iri> I dont want it to rely on ssh at all
L1851[17:05:02] <The_St​argazer> `&`
L1852[17:05:13] <AmandaC> technically byobu is just a wrapper around tmux/screen, but I've been liking it
L1853[17:05:17] <Ar​iri> If I close the session it should still run
L1854[17:05:23] <Forec​aster> byobu is nice
L1855[17:05:31] <Forec​aster> @Ariri that's what they do
L1856[17:05:57] <Ar​iri> Oh
L1857[17:05:58] <Forec​aster> they create a "window" you can close and reconnect to while preserving the output
L1858[17:06:09] <Ar​iri> I will check that out
L1859[17:06:26] <Forec​aster> I use byobu in screen mode
L1860[17:06:27] <Sagh​etti> i use screen for everything
L1861[17:06:38] <Sagh​etti> if you have like 8 things open, it gets a bit hard to manage
L1862[17:06:44] <Sagh​etti> but other than that, works like a charm
L1863[17:07:17] <AmandaC> 90% of the time it works every time!
L1864[17:07:45] <AmandaC> byobu makes screen/tmux use non-arcane keyboard shortcuts, or at least better documented ones.
L1865[17:07:46] <Kristo​pher38> yay for no mekanism
L1866[17:08:13] <AmandaC> alt left/right for switching "tabs" up/down for sessions, f2 opens a new tab
L1867[17:08:24] <Forec​aster> it also adds a modular/themable interface iirc
L1868[17:08:25] <Ar​iri> I like the mod but cant deal with its issues
L1869[17:08:43] <Ar​iri> Tmux and byobu arent available on windows huh>
L1870[17:08:45] <Ar​iri> Tmux and byobu arent available on windows huh? [Edited]
L1871[17:08:53] <Ar​iri> Unless Im blind
L1872[17:08:57] <AmandaC> probably not?
L1873[17:08:59] <Forec​aster> uh no, they're linux programs
L1874[17:09:17] <AmandaC> but you can run them from an SSH session, and when you connect again, re-open the session
L1875[17:09:34] <AmandaC> eg, to get access to my little MC Eternal server's console, I ssh to lilac.lan -> byobu
L1876[17:09:39] <Ar​iri> Yeah thats what Im doing now
L1877[17:09:45] <Forec​aster> if you're running the minecraft server on a linux server, you install byobu on it
L1878[17:10:14] <AmandaC> byobu also allows you to auto-lauch it when you log in, but it messes up some stuff that expects a normal shell on connection, such as emacs' TRAMP
L1879[17:11:03] <Ar​iri> So `byobu -S`?
L1880[17:11:12] <AmandaC> just `byobu` again
L1881[17:11:37] <AmandaC> and it'll show a pretty list of the active sessions for that user, or if there's just one, it'll go into it
L1882[17:12:03] <Forec​aster> byobu/screen also allows multi-user sessions
L1883[17:12:08] <Forec​aster> if configured correctly
L1884[17:12:51] <Ar​iri> So then I can ctrl-C out of the Byobu window and itll still run?
L1885[17:12:56] <The_St​argazer> apparently there's a mouse in my room
L1886[17:12:56] <The_St​argazer> pretty sure it's scared to death of me :P
L1887[17:12:59] <AmandaC> no, press f to disconnect
L1888[17:13:04] <AmandaC> f6*
L1889[17:13:14] <Ar​iri> Sweet, thanks.
L1890[17:13:15] * AmandaC glares at her keyboard, since it's surely not her paws that's making these typos
L1891[17:13:17] <The_St​argazer> press F to pay disconnects
L1892[17:13:17] <Forec​aster> I think I used to use ctrl + d
L1893[17:13:34] <Ar​iri> Ill try them both as soon as I confirm the block removals
L1894[17:13:34] <Forec​aster> or ctrl + a + d or something like that
L1895[17:14:22] <AmandaC> C-a-d is what you'd do for screen, slightly-configured tmux. F6 is a more memorable shortcut byobu adds
L1896[17:14:42] <AmandaC> ( By default it'd be C-b-d in tmux )
L1897[17:14:52] <The_St​argazer> server is going online
L1898[17:14:55] <The_St​argazer> 00:00:00
L1899[17:15:03] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L1900[17:15:08] <Kristo​pher38> I'm browsing the mods
L1901[17:15:13] <Sagh​etti> do ctrl+a to get into control mode thing
L1902[17:15:15] <Ar​iri> https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/8enwz8zaeb8Wmk2/preview
L1903[17:15:25] <Sagh​etti> and then [Escape] to scroll, "D" to detatch, etc
L1904[17:15:28] <Kristo​pher38> the portal gun is really cool
L1905[17:15:31] <The_St​argazer> oh, that's me i keep refreshing eargly
L1906[17:15:38] <The_St​argazer> er
L1907[17:15:39] <AmandaC> Still waiting for that IP. :P
L1908[17:15:39] <The_St​argazer> w/e
L1909[17:15:45] <The_St​argazer> `ariricraft.ddns.net`
L1910[17:15:45] <Michiyo> 127.0.0.1
L1911[17:15:47] <Ar​iri> XD
L1912[17:15:47] <Ar​iri> Amanda: Its the same IP
L1913[17:15:51] <AmandaC> ah
L1914[17:15:56] <The_St​argazer> Michiyo: 127.0.1.1
L1915[17:16:20] <Ar​iri> Stargazer: Try not to post that in IRC since there's no whitelist :)
L1916[17:16:26] <The_St​argazer> oh, apologies
L1917[17:16:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ariririririririri
L1918[17:16:34] <AmandaC> too late, it's in the eternal backlog now
L1919[17:16:40] <Ar​iri> T-T
L1920[17:16:41] <The_St​argazer> oh crap
L1921[17:16:43] <The_St​argazer> sorry
L1922[17:16:45] <AmandaC> unless Michiyo is nice and removes it
L1923[17:16:52] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> o o f
L1924[17:17:02] <Inari> AmandaC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H4_9UP2OZI
L1925[17:17:03] <AmandaC> ( form thepublic logs that is )
L1926[17:17:03] <MichiBot> Thurston decides winter is just not worth it! | length: 1m | Likes: 44,406 Dislikes: 438 Views: 808,382 | by Thurston Waffles | Published On 8/12/2016
L1927[17:17:04] <Ar​iri> No big deal
L1928[17:17:09] <Ar​iri> Yes AC?
L1929[17:17:23] <Ar​iri> Server is live! (?)
L1930[17:17:27] <The_St​argazer> It is!
L1931[17:17:30] <The_St​argazer> I think!!
L1932[17:17:36] <Ar​iri> \o/ Does it look alright
L1933[17:17:37] <Michiyo> I wonder if this still works
L1934[17:17:39] <Michiyo> %mcinfo ariricraft.ddns.net
L1935[17:17:40] <The_St​argazer> Enthusiasm!!!!
L1936[17:17:40] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: Server info: Version: Pre-12w42b MOTD: StariCraft Official Server
L1937[17:17:49] <Michiyo> eh.. kinda
L1938[17:17:55] <The_St​argazer> sort of.
L1939[17:18:03] <Ocawes​ome101> @Saghetti why no tmux?
L1940[17:18:03] <Ar​iri> It got the MOTD at least!
L1941[17:18:05] <Ar​iri> Er
L1942[17:18:06] <The_St​argazer> the MOTD is multi-line
L1943[17:18:08] <Ocawes​ome101> @Kristopher38 yes it is!
L1944[17:18:08] <Ar​iri> Is that the title
L1945[17:18:11] <The_St​argazer> Part of the MOTD!
L1946[17:18:16] <Forec​aster> %mcinfo towerofawesome.org
L1947[17:18:17] <MichiBot> Forec​​aster: Server info: Version: Pre-12w42b MOTD: Official Railcraft Server Season 2 Players: 20/1
L1948[17:18:24] <Forec​aster> huh
L1949[17:18:28] <The_St​argazer> `20/1`
L1950[17:18:29] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> sorry
L1951[17:18:30] <Michiyo> https://minecraft-el.gamepedia.com/12w42b
L1952[17:18:30] <Michiyo> 12w42b is the fifteenth snapshot for 1.4.2
L1953[17:18:31] <Ar​iri> Lol
L1954[17:18:32] <Michiyo> lol...
L1955[17:18:35] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i just like typing aririririririririri
L1956[17:18:35] <Ocawes​ome101> %mcinfo meow.pickardayune.com
L1957[17:18:36] <MichiBot> Ocawes​​ome101: Server info: Version: Pre-12w42b MOTD: A Vanilla Minecraft Server powered by Docker Players: 20/0
L1958[17:18:49] <Ocawes​ome101> hrm, got some mixed-up numbers there
L1959[17:18:49] <Ar​iri> AC, understandable.
L1960[17:18:51] <Kristo​pher38> 20/0?
L1961[17:18:56] <Michiyo> Max/current
L1962[17:18:59] <The_St​argazer> 20/-1 will be next
L1963[17:19:12] <Ar​iri> Stargazer: Server still up?
L1964[17:19:12] <The_St​argazer> ITITIITITIT'S LIVE
L1965[17:19:23] <Kristo​pher38> Ah I can give 16 gigs to my minecraft instance, feels good
L1966[17:19:31] <AmandaC> "Pro tip: You can always mine more later and come back"
L1967[17:19:54] <Ar​iri> Pro tip: Dont put your TNT next to your redstone circuits.
L1968[17:19:55] <Michiyo> Though it's SUPPOSED to be Online/Max I think something changed in the query data the lib I use gets
L1969[17:20:00] <The_St​argazer> Ariri: team up?
L1970[17:20:13] <Michiyo> Players: " + data.getOnlinePlayers() + "/" + data.getMaxPlayers()
L1971[17:20:15] <Michiyo> so *shrugs*
L1972[17:20:32] <Ar​iri> Nope, Im thinking of going solo.
L1973[17:21:01] <Michiyo> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/blob/178fe3571fc19ae2815c6b99ca7dda522f6e57e2/src/main/java/pcl/lc/utils/mcping/MinecraftPingReply.java Someone should fix this.
L1974[17:21:04] <Michiyo> :P
L1975[17:21:13] <Ar​iri> I might take a crack at it
L1976[17:21:14] <The_St​argazer> ah
L1977[17:21:28] <Ar​iri> And now that its up, I am going to brush and eat breakfast because I have been sitting uncomfortably in my chair and I am v hungry
L1978[17:21:37] <Ar​iri> "I'll be back."
L1979[17:21:41] <Michiyo> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/tree/178fe3571fc19ae2815c6b99ca7dda522f6e57e2/src/main/java/pcl/lc/utils/mcping Theres a handful of things in here that will likely need updated
L1980[17:21:50] <Michiyo> I don't have the bandwidth right now to poke it
L1981[17:21:53] <Ar​iri> And Im thinking of setting up an IRC -> Discord -> Minecraft relay
L1982[17:21:55] <Michiyo> and I don't know when I will
L1983[17:21:58] <Forec​aster> ah yes, don't forget to brush your breakfast before eating it kids
L1984[17:22:05] <The_St​argazer> ariri help
L1985[17:22:08] <The_St​argazer> im stuc
L1986[17:22:11] <The_St​argazer> spawn protection is on
L1987[17:22:20] <The_St​argazer> which means im stuck since i cant brek blocks
L1988[17:22:22] <The_St​argazer> o wait /rtp
L1989[17:22:33] <Ar​iri> Lemme quick fix that
L1990[17:22:43] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> nah
L1991[17:22:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> you gotta do
L1992[17:23:03] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> IRC <-> XMPP <-> Minecraft
L1993[17:23:32] <Inari> @Forecaster railcraft season 2 is live already? :p
L1994[17:23:34] <AmandaC> Lots of scary explosions and monster noises while I was reading the book.
L1995[17:23:39] <Forec​aster> nope
L1996[17:23:48] <Forec​aster> just settings up some test stuff
L1997[17:23:49] <Michiyo> I had a bot that did (proprietary in game chat) -> XMPP -> XMPP -> Discord for a while
L1998[17:24:03] <Michiyo> had 2 bots that yelled at each other in an XMPP channel to go from ingame to discord.
L1999[17:24:04] <The_St​argazer> AmandaC: oof
L2000[17:24:09] <The_St​argazer> haha
L2001[17:24:15] <AmandaC> note to self, disconnect ~= options
L2002[17:24:21] <Forec​aster> I haven't even made the announcement video yet
L2003[17:24:29] <Inari> @The_Stargazer whats the modpack now anyway
L2004[17:24:42] * AmandaC demands the announcment video end with @Forecaster feeding a bunch of cats
L2005[17:25:00] <Michiyo> Feeding @"Forecaster" to a bunch of cats you say?
L2006[17:25:04] <The_St​argazer> custom still
L2007[17:25:05] <The_St​argazer> modified dw20
L2008[17:25:07] <AmandaC> yes, exactly
L2009[17:25:09] <Inari> AmandaC: nah, a bunch of foxes
L2010[17:25:17] <Inari> @The_Stargazer yes, but where does one get that
L2011[17:25:17] <Inari> :P
L2012[17:26:02] <The_St​argazer> ariri's nextcloud
L2013[17:26:11] <AmandaC> Inari: https://lcars5201.ddns.net/index.php/s/8mBYkcLJcKRC4sQ
L2014[17:26:34] <Inari> Like I have a random link to that :p
L2015[17:26:35] <Inari> Ty
L2016[17:26:36] <Forec​aster> does mc have foxes yet?
L2017[17:26:45] <Inari> Yes
L2018[17:27:05] <Sagh​etti> 1.14
L2019[17:27:33] <Ar​iri> We do :P
L2020[17:27:58] <Inari> Do they actually spawn now
L2021[17:28:03] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> outfox is cool
L2022[17:28:05] <Sagh​etti> so download 1.0.2R
L2023[17:28:06] <Sagh​etti> right?
L2024[17:28:10] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> useful foxes
L2025[17:31:44] <AmandaC> fox slaves!
L2026[17:32:05] <Ar​iri> Inari: Didn’t they already? I could’ve sworn I’d seen them on the last server
L2027[17:32:13] <Ar​iri> Yes Saghetti
L2028[17:32:23] <Ar​iri> R for release, which I need to update the readme
L2029[17:33:10] <Ar​iri> Also note client and server configs may not be the same, when I automate server backups I’ll probably push that up too if people want to test.
L2030[17:33:10] <Ar​iri> It’s for balancing mostly
L2031[17:33:22] <pay​onel> amanda: how to repro visual bug with edit?
L2032[17:33:52] <AmandaC> @payonel not sure, someone shortly before I paged you showed two screenshots of it happening
L2033[17:34:24] <AmandaC> might be related to UTF-8 codepoints being counted differently between the normal view and the written view
L2034[17:34:45] <pay​onel> @The_Stargazer issue with "bytes written" in edit?
L2035[17:35:16] <pay​onel> i believe i've seen that issue before. i dont remember the problem root cause, but i remember thinking it wasn't a big deal
L2036[17:35:32] <pay​onel> could be something like \r\n counted as \n when considering byte counts
L2037[17:35:35] <pay​onel> or something benign
L2038[17:40:22] <AmandaC> ..............
L2039[17:40:24] <AmandaC> FUUUUUUCK
L2040[17:41:21] <Forec​aster> ?
L2041[17:41:25] <Ar​iri> F for Amanda
L2042[17:44:31] <Ar​iri> DE should be the only really powerful mod, everything else should be balanced
L2043[17:44:31] <Ar​iri> Might change the EnvTech drills since they require no maintenance or moving though
L2044[17:44:45] <Forec​aster> Factory setup supply box complete http://tinyurl.com/y9a4wjac
L2045[17:47:43] <AmandaC> %choose rtp or no
L2046[17:47:43] <MichiBot> Ama​ndaC: I tried reading my tea leaves this morning. There was sometihng about death and doom. Anyway, go with "no"
L2047[17:47:58] <Forec​aster> agh
L2048[17:48:04] <Forec​aster> "sometihng"
L2049[17:48:06] <Forec​aster> :|
L2050[17:48:53] <Ar​iri> somethaenf
L2051[17:48:56] <Forec​aster> IntelliJ why didn't you highlight that
L2052[17:49:05] <Ar​iri> IntelliNot :P
L2053[17:49:17] <Forec​aster> (it probably did but I was sleepy and missed it)
L2054[17:49:49] <Ar​iri> Snore(ing)caster
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L2056[17:59:48] <Forec​aster> also, the trading upgrade, unlike most other items, has no tooltip
L2057[18:00:24] <pay​onel> what should the tooltip say?
L2058[18:01:03] <Forec​aster> "Allows trading with villagers. For use with for example robots." perhaps
L2059[18:01:35] <Forec​aster> also some blocks say `tooltip.powerAcceptor`
L2060[18:03:09] <Brisingr​Aerowing> @Ariri if you want a tabbed / multiwindow terminal on Windows, I would recommend ConEmu.
L2061[18:03:22] <Brisingr​Aerowing> It also supports ANSI escape codes, even in cmd.exe
L2062[18:03:49] <Brisingr​Aerowing> It's my favorite, and can be run as a portable app.
L2063[18:04:13] <Brisingr​Aerowing> The
L2064[18:04:18] <Brisingr​Aerowing> ...
L2065[18:04:26] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Stupid keyboard.
L2066[18:04:34] <Kristo​pher38> No tooltip, no entry on the wiki
L2067[18:04:37] <AmandaC> payonel: apparently @the_Stargazer can't run MC and discord at the same time, so they might take a it to reply
L2068[18:07:00] <Ar​iri> BrisingrAerowing: Thanks, Ill check that out.
L2069[18:30:47] <AmandaC> @Ariri how do I tag myself as non-pvp? Stargazer said something about placing a sign at spawn?
L2070[18:31:28] <Ar​iri> Yeah, I will clear out a chunk in spawn when I stop being a slideshow and put a sign down for those who want to opt out, somehow editable
L2071[18:32:39] <pay​onel> @Forecaster http://tinyurl.com/y99zghbg
L2072[18:32:51] <Forec​aster> nice
L2073[18:32:54] <AmandaC> I'm loading in with 8G now, just waiting for MC to finish
L2074[18:41:59] <Ar​iri> Where is the keybinds file stored?
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L2076[18:43:18] <Forec​aster> options.txt in the instance root
L2077[18:44:29] <Izaya> https://files.catbox.moe/yzfyww.jpg
L2078[18:44:32] <Izaya> literally me rn
L2079[18:46:19] <Ar​iri> Thanks^
L2080[18:49:02] <Vexatos> the heck is that Izaya
L2081[18:49:12] <Forec​aster> Stellaris
L2082[18:49:21] <Vexatos> sounds stellar
L2083[18:49:28] <Forec​aster> is
L2084[18:54:38] <Forec​aster> I haven't tried it yet
L2085[19:01:19] <Lizzy> bleh, i think i need to restart my pc before stellaris will launch again... yay
L2086[19:01:59] <Forec​aster> "Not enough energy"...
L2087[19:02:04] <Forec​aster> you're a creative MCU...
L2088[19:02:48] <Lizzy> lol
L2089[19:03:08] <pay​onel> yeah, i've noticed the old creatrive case power was just something that charges itself super fast
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L2093[19:03:49] <Klea​dron> well problem solved either way
L2094[19:03:52] <Forec​aster> hm
L2095[19:04:10] <Forec​aster> I wish the remote terminal could remember multiple connections so you could switch between them
L2096[19:04:29] <DaCompu​terNerd> ok this is a weird one. I'm trying out the new OpenComputers integration in TechGuns for the Reaction Chamber
L2097[19:04:39] <Vexatos> multiple terminals, name them in an anvil
L2098[19:05:03] <Forec​aster> I don't want to carry multiple ones though :|
L2099[19:05:04] <DaCompu​terNerd> it's having a bit of an odd issue where it occasionally doesn't appear to be returning the right values from this function
L2100[19:05:26] <Vexatos> sounds like you need a backpack :)
L2101[19:05:59] <Forec​aster> no I want one item in my hotbar that I can use to access multiple servers without fiddling about too much >:
L2102[19:06:14] <Forec​aster> storage space isn't the issue
L2103[19:07:35] <DaCompu​terNerd> nvm i found the issue
L2104[19:07:46] <DaCompu​terNerd> the key for it is actually misspelled and i spelled it right lol
L2105[19:09:39] <Forec​aster> ooh, I need to add a starting balance option to the master server
L2106[19:10:11] <Forec​aster> so instead of defaulting to 0 when it doesn't know someone it should be able to start at like 100, so you have some starting money
L2107[19:12:08] <Klea​dron> wtf
L2108[19:12:15] <Klea​dron> minecraft has no titlebar
L2109[19:12:24] <Forec​aster> ?
L2110[19:12:28] <Klea​dron> http://tinyurl.com/yb7rbuph
L2111[19:12:46] <Forec​aster> mine does
L2112[19:13:02] <AmandaC> if that's Ariris pack, check the MultiMC java opts, it disables it
L2113[19:13:10] <Ar​iri> Oh right, it’s a borderless argument I had
L2114[19:13:16] <Ar​iri> I forgot I added it
L2115[19:13:20] <Ar​iri> by accident
L2116[19:13:36] <Klea​dron> >borderless
L2117[19:13:38] <Klea​dron> >has borders
L2118[19:13:44] <Ar​iri> It’s better
L2119[19:13:52] <Klea​dron> i can't drag the window around
L2120[19:13:55] <Klea​dron> how is this better
L2121[19:14:00] <Ar​iri> I had issues with running at max res
L2122[19:14:25] <Ar​iri> You can change the res in the launch options and resize the window
L2123[19:14:31] <Ar​iri> It’s not like you have to have it
L2124[19:15:02] <Ar​iri> I’ll remove it later
L2125[19:15:05] <Klea​dron> why is 1.12.2 forge so god damn slow loading default minecraft assets
L2126[19:15:11] <Klea​dron> i'm suprised
L2127[19:15:51] <DaCompu​terNerd> `data.put("preferedIntensity", getCurrentReaction().getCurrentPreferedIntensity());`
L2128[19:16:00] <DaCompu​terNerd> that's 20 minutes of my life wasted by a typo
L2129[19:16:41] <Forec​aster> could be worse
L2130[19:17:04] <DaCompu​terNerd> not even a typo, just a misspelling, because it's consistent
L2131[19:20:15] <Forec​aster> hm, one of the relays ran out of power again
L2132[19:20:29] <Forec​aster> it seems I've created a network loop
L2133[19:21:09] <Forec​aster> and it probably runs out of power too fast for the creative charge to keep up processing the message that is echoing around
L2134[19:21:57] <Forec​aster> a shame because I don't want to change my pretty arrangement >:
L2135[19:22:23] <Forec​aster> http://tinyurl.com/y9mgjgb3
L2136[19:23:09] <Forec​aster> there's no way to remove a bit of cable within a block is there
L2137[19:23:53] <Forec​aster> hm, I could shift the top row up by one block I suppose
L2138[19:24:04] <Forec​aster> that'd preserve the symetry
L2139[19:24:11] <The_St​argazer> uh
L2140[19:24:14] <The_St​argazer> i froze :I
L2141[19:24:39] <Forec​aster> wait what
L2142[19:24:45] <Forec​aster> why didn't the drawer drop D:
L2143[19:24:47] <Forec​aster> dangit
L2144[19:24:53] <Forec​aster> now I have to re-create the supply box
L2145[19:32:58] <Klea​dron> *thanks i didn't know that* http://tinyurl.com/yagg7jyr
L2146[19:34:31] <Lizzy> @Forecaster AFAIK server racks have their internal relays set in a mode where they act like normal in-world relays (i.e. a message coming in from the south side will be broadcast out on all other sides) so maybe that's what's causing the looping
L2147[19:35:08] <Forec​aster> Possibly
L2148[19:35:54] <Lizzy> i think there's a button in the gui to switch it on/off, with it switched off the servers can only communicate on the sides that they have either component access or a network line for
L2149[19:36:30] <Forec​aster> I know, but I'm pretty sure the MCU's created a loop too so it wouldn't have helped
L2150[19:37:00] <Lizzy> hmm, unsure
L2151[19:38:07] <Lizzy> i remember in the past someone said that microcontrollers could choose where to send out a network message but i don't think i've ever seen any documentation to indicate how you'd do thaty
L2152[19:39:44] <Forec​aster> hrm
L2153[19:39:48] <Forec​aster> it's not fixed
L2154[19:40:12] <Forec​aster> http://tinyurl.com/ybmd9j3j
L2155[19:40:20] <pay​onel> the microcontroller has an api, setSideOpen
L2156[19:40:29] <The_St​argazer> haha yes
L2157[19:40:41] <The_St​argazer> fixed laptop keyboard
L2158[19:41:06] <The_St​argazer> space bar missing tho
L2159[19:41:11] <Ocawes​ome101> is there really no version of LWJGL2 compiled for aarch64v8?
L2160[19:41:20] <The_St​argazer> contact still there
L2161[19:41:34] <Klea​dron> ok wtf is it with large 1.12.2 modpacks having severe stuttering issues
L2162[19:41:50] <Ocawes​ome101> Kleadron: tried optifine?
L2163[19:41:57] <Ocawes​ome101> I noticed that too, on Ariri's server
L2164[19:41:58] <The_St​argazer> ...
L2165[19:42:11] <The_St​argazer> there is betterfps
L2166[19:42:19] <Ocawes​ome101> optifine is superior
L2167[19:42:26] <Ocawes​ome101> change my mind
L2168[19:42:30] <B​ob> Yes
L2169[19:42:33] <B​ob> Optifine rocks
L2170[19:42:35] <Michiyo> Optifine sucks.
L2171[19:42:37] <Michiyo> :)
L2172[19:42:42] <Ocawes​ome101> shaders tho
L2173[19:43:07] <Michiyo> Oh, I run it, for shaders. But the issues it causes with a lot of special rendering is annoying af
L2174[19:43:16] <Ocawes​ome101> oh yeah
L2175[19:43:18] <Ocawes​ome101> fair
L2176[19:43:22] <Klea​dron> don't do special rendering then
L2177[19:43:23] <Forec​aster> hm, disabling the rack relay mode fixes it
L2178[19:43:28] <Forec​aster> not sure what is happening...
L2179[19:43:50] <Forec​aster> oh wait
L2180[19:43:52] <Forec​aster> right
L2181[19:44:10] <Ocawes​ome101> 1.13.2 + low settings + optifine runs at ~30FPS on my aarch64 laptop
L2182[19:44:18] <Forec​aster> one of the racks receive the message from the relay, bounces it back the way it came, the relay receives it, and repeats it again
L2183[19:44:25] <Ocawes​ome101> 1.12.2 would be nice because OpenComputers though
L2184[19:44:49] <Ocawes​ome101> anyways it's 2:45 and I haven't eaten lunch yet, will be back at some point in the future
L2185[19:44:52] <Ocawes​ome101> \o
L2186[19:45:08] <Forec​aster> or will you
L2187[19:45:12] <Izaya> I've almost removed the Natfakan Consciousness from existence
L2188[19:46:10] <Forec​aster> huh, having only one of the racks in relay mode doesn't cause the echo
L2189[19:46:16] <Forec​aster> but when both are enabled it happens
L2190[19:46:23] <Forec​aster> @payonel is that supposed to happen?
L2191[19:47:23] <pay​onel> i personally am not a fan of the relay mode feature on the rack
L2192[19:47:31] <pay​onel> that should be the job of a relay :/
L2193[19:47:33] <pay​onel> meh
L2194[19:47:49] <pay​onel> but yeah, having multiple relays in a network, yes, that causes echo
L2195[19:47:52] <Forec​aster> not even sure what it's doing in this case, as each rack only has a connection on one side
L2196[19:48:18] <Forec​aster> well that's not very useful oO
L2197[19:48:33] <Ar​iri> Kleadron: I had the same sort of tick issue
L2198[19:48:33] <pay​onel> why do you need the rack to relay?
L2199[19:48:37] <Forec​aster> I don't
L2200[19:48:41] <Forec​aster> it's enabled by default
L2201[19:48:44] <pay​onel> then disable both... oh
L2202[19:48:48] <pay​onel> sigh
L2203[19:48:58] <Klea​dron> nuke the feature from existance
L2204[19:49:37] <pay​onel> wow, enabled by default
L2205[19:49:43] <pay​onel> oh come on now...
L2206[19:49:57] <pay​onel> honestly, any harm is disabling that by default?
L2207[19:50:03] <pay​onel> in*
L2208[19:50:04] <Forec​aster> I doubt it
L2209[19:50:09] <pay​onel> i'm 90% sure i'm going to disable this
L2210[19:50:35] <Forec​aster> I didn't encounter this issue on my SP setup because I had both servers in the same rack
L2211[19:50:59] <pay​onel> i might as well share some plans, btw
L2212[19:51:07] <pay​onel> the next update is going to be 1.8
L2213[19:51:16] <Forec​aster> we're going to be pay to win?!
L2214[19:51:17] <AmandaC> next or last? :P
L2215[19:51:20] <pay​onel> two main features are gpu vram and bundled cables
L2216[19:51:34] <Lizzy> ooh, bundled cables!
L2217[19:51:35] <pay​onel> amandac: there is never a last 🙂
L2218[19:51:40] <Michiyo> We're getting bundles?
L2219[19:51:42] <Michiyo> woo!
L2220[19:51:46] <pay​onel> yep
L2221[19:51:49] <Klea​dron> rip me :D
L2222[19:51:52] <Michiyo> woo!
L2223[19:51:53] <Forec​aster> by 1.8 I'm guessing you mean dropping 1.7=
L2224[19:51:56] * Lizzy was gonna make a mod to do that at some point, but then lack of motivation came by
L2225[19:51:56] <Forec​aster> by 1.8 I'm guessing you mean dropping 1.7? [Edited]
L2226[19:51:56] * AmandaC makes Lizzy into a purrito
L2227[19:52:04] * Lizzy purrs?
L2228[19:52:17] <pay​onel> @Forecaster 1.7 ?
L2229[19:52:22] <pay​onel> mc 1.7.10 ?
L2230[19:52:23] <AmandaC> MC 1.7 I assume
L2231[19:52:25] <Michiyo> MC 1.7 I assume
L2232[19:52:29] <Michiyo> lol..
L2233[19:52:34] <pay​onel> 🙂
L2234[19:52:35] <Forec​aster> or do you mean it's OC 1.8?
L2235[19:52:39] <pay​onel> oc 1.8
L2236[19:52:43] <Forec​aster> ah
L2237[19:52:47] <pay​onel> we still publish to 1.7.10, 1.10, and .12
L2238[19:52:49] <Lizzy> OC isn't even released for 1.8-1.9
L2239[19:52:50] <pay​onel> 1.12
L2240[19:52:52] <Forec​aster> righto
L2241[19:52:59] <Klea​dron> oh good
L2242[19:53:10] <The_St​argazer> haha yes x2
L2243[19:53:10] <The_St​argazer> i have successfully moved my setup to my bed because it's cold af
L2244[19:53:26] <AmandaC> Inari: I have discovered the cause of the ghost that punches you when you wake up.
L2245[19:53:34] <pay​onel> anyways, if y'all haven't noticed by now
L2246[19:53:39] <pay​onel> i suck at keeping things secret
L2247[19:53:41] <AmandaC> Inari: it seems MC assumes everyone sleeps with their headrest at least one block away from the wall
L2248[19:54:10] <Forec​aster> at least you haven't told anyone you're actually a washing machine yet
L2249[19:54:11] <The_St​argazer> which nobody does lol
L2250[19:54:12] <pay​onel> sure, there are a lot of things i keep quiet, mostly things i'm really unclear about, where i'm not sure my own design/idea
L2251[19:54:31] <The_St​argazer> who the heck puts their bed's headrest not on the wall
L2252[19:54:45] <Vexatos> At least I'll still publish the release so I did something right :^)
L2253[19:54:45] <Klea​dron> do minecraft beds even have a headrest
L2254[19:54:48] <Forec​aster> I don't have a headrest
L2255[19:54:51] <The_St​argazer> they don't lol
L2256[19:54:51] <Vexatos> wait I'll also have to write the change log
L2257[19:55:09] <pay​onel> yeah, changelog is my least favorite chore of a release 🙂
L2258[19:55:15] <AmandaC> Vexatos: `git log tag1..tag2`-> paste
L2259[19:55:15] <Lizzy> and i'll probably still do the copy-pasting to the forums :P
L2260[19:55:18] <pay​onel> oc would be dead without vex
L2261[19:55:28] <Klea​dron> half the time i forget what i added when i'm doing a changelog
L2262[19:55:30] <Forec​aster> or at least changelog-less :P
L2263[19:55:44] <Vexatos> AmandaC, I wish
L2264[19:56:22] <Michiyo> I just have Jenkins generate my changelogs :P
L2265[19:56:51] <Klea​dron> who is jenkins
L2266[19:57:05] <pay​onel> @Kristopher38 i did some more bitblt profiling last night. the story isn't over. there is a chance for some optimization, besides just dirty partitions
L2267[19:57:06] <Forec​aster> her butler
L2268[19:57:09] <Michiyo> ^
L2269[19:57:37] <Forec​aster> crud... payout failed...
L2270[19:58:45] <Michiyo> %mcinfo ariricraft.ddns.net
L2271[19:58:46] <MichiBot> Mic​hiyo: Server info: Version: Pre-12w42b MOTD: StariCraft Official Server
L2272[19:58:50] <Michiyo> huh...
L2273[19:58:54] <Michiyo> well
L2274[19:59:00] <Vexatos> @payonel but yea if you add bundled cables definitely a 1.8
L2275[19:59:08] <Michiyo> I now know what the version is wrong..
L2276[19:59:16] <Michiyo> s/what/why/
L2277[19:59:16] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> I now know why the version is wrong..
L2278[19:59:34] <pay​onel> i'm open to design ideas for how to connect blades to a cable color
L2279[19:59:37] <Michiyo> The library I'm using... hardcodes it :P
L2280[19:59:38] <Michiyo> this(ip, port, motd, "Pre-47", "Pre-12w42b", onlinePlayers, maxPlayers);
L2281[19:59:39] <pay​onel> i've thought of some, but i dislike the options
L2282[19:59:42] <Forec​aster> haha
L2283[19:59:45] <pay​onel> the rack ui is already confusing
L2284[19:59:58] <Vexatos> @payonel I suggest just having a square next to each blade slot
L2285[20:00:04] <Vexatos> click on it to open the colour palette
L2286[20:00:09] <Vexatos> would that work?
L2287[20:00:21] <pay​onel> yeah, that's what i was thinking too
L2288[20:00:27] <Michiyo> Vexatos++
L2289[20:00:27] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Vexatos now has 4.0 points
L2290[20:00:28] <Vexatos> whatever it'll be it definitely has to have full tooltips
L2291[20:00:32] <pay​onel> i just....it feels slightly cluttered already
L2292[20:00:35] <Vexatos> like show "cable colour" on it
L2293[20:00:39] <Vexatos> and then the colour names on the icons
L2294[20:00:40] <pay​onel> nope
L2295[20:00:41] <pay​onel> color
L2296[20:00:43] <Vexatos> because colourblind people
L2297[20:00:47] <Lizzy> maybe two boxes? like a side then colour?
L2298[20:01:06] <Kristo​pher38> @payonel that's cool, I'm curious what optimizations
L2299[20:01:06] <pay​onel> how about two tooltips, one for color, and one for colour
L2300[20:01:09] <The_St​argazer> payounel: it's colour
L2301[20:01:16] <pay​onel> @The_Stargazer not in oc
L2302[20:01:21] <Michiyo> @The_Stargazer Color you say? :P
L2303[20:01:24] <Vexatos> see OC already uses colours and dice sides for the rack sides, so we need something else for colourblind people for cable colours
L2304[20:01:25] <pay​onel> in oc, there is only color
L2305[20:01:30] <Forec​aster> you could have a button to switch to a different gui only for bundle connections
L2306[20:01:35] <The_St​argazer> @payonel en_GB.lang when
L2307[20:01:36] <Vexatos> @payonel en_GB.lang time
L2308[20:01:43] <Forec​aster> the button to switch which is only visible if a bundled cable is connected
L2309[20:01:45] <pay​onel> this isn't a localization issue
L2310[20:01:45] <Michiyo> lol
L2311[20:01:48] <Kristo​pher38> @The_Stargazer go away with yor colour
L2312[20:02:07] <pay​onel> i'm not saying "color" in "oc color" is the word color
L2313[20:02:11] <The_St​argazer> Well, Kristoupher, I must say that is not a very nice comment, old chap!
L2314[20:02:14] <pay​onel> this is a separate thing, my own word
L2315[20:02:18] <pay​onel> happens to share meaning
L2316[20:02:24] <Vexatos> but yea I think just having tooltips would be easiest
L2317[20:02:32] <Kristo​pher38> behaviour neighbour
L2318[20:02:39] <The_St​argazer> yes
L2319[20:02:43] <Inari> AmandaC: I see
L2320[20:02:44] <Vexatos> tomato tomato :^)
L2321[20:02:46] <pay​onel> this is one of my favorite pointless debates 🙂
L2322[20:02:49] <The_St​argazer> tomatou*
L2323[20:03:02] <Forec​aster> well this got derailed right quick
L2324[20:03:05] <pay​onel> hahah
L2325[20:03:10] <Kristo​pher38> lmao sorry
L2326[20:03:14] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> gout
L2327[20:03:16] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> wait
L2328[20:03:24] <Vexatos> @payonel also maybe make the cable analyzer-able to print its colour?
L2329[20:03:31] <The_St​argazer> got gout? eat Goat™️!
L2330[20:03:41] <Kristo​pher38> defense defence
L2331[20:03:42] <Vexatos> I mean the normal non-bundled cable
L2332[20:03:45] <Lizzy> @Forecaster welcome to #oc
L2333[20:03:46] <Forec​aster> cable analyzer?
L2334[20:03:47] <The_St​argazer> de fence
L2335[20:03:54] <The_St​argazer> and maybe de wall
L2336[20:04:00] <Vexatos> I was a fencer for a while
L2337[20:04:01] <The_St​argazer> add de floor too
L2338[20:04:10] <Forec​aster> Lizzy: I've been here longer than most same as you :P
L2339[20:04:24] <Lizzy> :P
L2340[20:04:41] <Klea​dron> instead of colors or colours call them wavelengths
L2341[20:04:42] <Vexatos> "I used OC before it was cool"
L2342[20:04:45] <Inari> Kilobyte: Hey, you're still alive!
L2343[20:05:13] <Forec​aster> I was here before I'd actually used OC for anything actually
L2344[20:05:19] <Forec​aster> :P
L2345[20:05:26] <The_St​argazer> microwave colours 😎
L2346[20:05:28] <Vexatos> you ever used OC?
L2347[20:05:38] <Inari> I don't recall when I started using OC
L2348[20:05:42] <Vexatos> :P
L2349[20:05:53] <Inari> Probably Cruor or something dragging me into it
L2350[20:06:05] <Vexatos> I dragged cruor in here
L2351[20:06:06] <The_St​argazer> who is this cruor
L2352[20:06:13] <The_St​argazer> oh, the CC guy
L2353[20:06:13] <Forec​aster> I had it in my 1.7 LP for a long time before I got around to using it for things I think
L2354[20:06:14] <Inari> Crucru
L2355[20:06:14] <The_St​argazer> i think
L2356[20:06:31] <Inari> Good old CC University times
L2357[20:06:45] <Inari> With ALL's(or who wrote that?) deep freeze bios or whatever it was called
L2358[20:06:54] <Vexatos> cruor started using CC literally the day after it was released
L2359[20:07:37] <Forec​aster> sigh
L2360[20:07:43] <Forec​aster> why isn't this working now
L2361[20:07:57] <Michiyo> has anyone heard from ALL in.. years?
L2362[20:07:58] <Forec​aster> dang block command
L2363[20:08:00] <Lizzy> space amoebas
L2364[20:08:05] <Inari> @Michiyo nope
L2365[20:08:07] <Michiyo> He want dark from everything I followed him on
L2366[20:08:11] <Lizzy> all?
L2367[20:08:18] <Inari> Maybe too many people tried ot touch his hair
L2368[20:08:22] <Michiyo> AfterLifeLochie
L2369[20:08:25] <Lizzy> ah
L2370[20:08:34] <Michiyo> We co-deved LanteaCraft
L2371[20:08:43] <Inari> He was cool
L2372[20:11:02] <Inari> AmandaC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2eUz5k0Yhw
L2373[20:11:02] <MichiBot> Cat taking a bath mooooooo mooooooo | length: 1m 42s | Likes: 84,103 Dislikes: 2,897 Views: 1,722,616 | by MPR1 | Published On 20/7/2011
L2374[20:11:07] <Forec​aster> hm, the command isn't errorring
L2375[20:12:36] <Inari> %moo ^
L2376[20:12:37] <MichiBot> hm, the coommand isn't erroorring
L2377[20:15:53] <Forec​aster> if I run it manually it works
L2378[20:15:58] <Forec​aster> is the debug card turned off
L2379[20:16:43] <Forec​aster> `debugCardAccess=allow`
L2380[20:16:44] <Forec​aster> nope
L2381[20:18:49] <Forec​aster> "You do not have permission to use this command"
L2382[20:18:49] <Klea​dron> and the award for longest pre-initialization time goes to OpenComputers :D
L2383[20:18:50] <Forec​aster> oh
L2384[20:19:04] <Forec​aster> but why didn't the program catch that
L2385[20:19:30] <Forec​aster> oh
L2386[20:19:37] <Forec​aster> the "result" is 0, not false
L2387[20:20:42] <Forec​aster> wiki says it returns a number, but not why
L2388[20:21:16] <Forec​aster> also fails to mention that it returns the error message as the second value but that's common enough I guess
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L2390[20:22:12] <Forec​aster> %tonkout
L2391[20:22:13] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket! Forec​aster! You beat your own previous record of 10 hours, 42 minutes and 3 seconds (By 2 minutes and 38 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L2392[20:22:14] <MichiBot> Forec​aster has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.01 tonk points! plus 0.018 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.82322, Position #2 => #1
L2393[20:22:33] <Lizzy> @Kleadron you've clearly never played with Immersive Railroading
L2394[20:23:12] <Lizzy> %tonk
L2395[20:23:12] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! Li​zzy! You beat Forec​aster's previous record of <0 (By 59 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L2396[20:23:13] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 59 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00002 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.12578 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L2397[20:23:40] <Brisingr​Aerowing> %sip
L2398[20:23:41] <MichiBot> You drink a goopy void potion (New!). Brisingr​Aerowing has a sudden desire to run around in a circle until they say the word "Nice".
L2399[20:23:50] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Nice.
L2400[20:24:23] <Brisingr​Aerowing> %loot the firework launching idiot neighbor
L2401[20:24:23] <MichiBot> Brisingr​​Aerowing: You stab the firework launching idiot neighbor! It dropped a hard cloud. (Junk)!
L2402[20:24:35] <Forec​aster> huh
L2403[20:24:42] <Forec​aster> it doesn't have permission to use any command
L2404[20:24:47] <Forec​aster> not even /list
L2405[20:25:14] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Are you using a permissions mod (like FTB Utils)?
L2406[20:25:21] <Forec​aster> no
L2407[20:25:38] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Hmmm...
L2408[20:26:06] <Forec​aster> opping "opencomputers" and "OpenComputers" didn't help
L2409[20:26:16] <Forec​aster> not sure what the fake player is called
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L2411[20:26:27] <Lizzy> [opencomputers] ?
L2412[20:26:53] <Forec​aster> I couldn't op that
L2413[20:26:56] <Brisingr​Aerowing> It seems the card uses the player it’s bound to for permissions.
L2414[20:27:04] <Forec​aster> ooh
L2415[20:27:04] <Brisingr​Aerowing> From reading the code.
L2416[20:27:06] <Forec​aster> right
L2417[20:27:08] <Forec​aster> that's the thing
L2418[20:27:46] <Forec​aster> yeah there we go
L2419[20:27:54] <Forec​aster> thanks, I forgot all about that part
L2420[20:28:02] <Forec​aster> 's not needed in singleplayer apparently
L2421[20:28:03] <Brisingr​Aerowing> NP!
L2422[20:28:24] <pay​onel> sounds like something we should add to the tooltip 🙂
L2423[20:28:31] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Yup.
L2424[20:28:37] <Forec​aster> yeah, it doesn't mention it
L2425[20:28:54] <Forec​aster> so runCommand seems to return 0 on failure and 1 on success
L2426[20:29:10] <Forec​aster> I'm unsure why it's a number and not a bool...
L2427[20:29:18] <Izaya> am I brainleting or is this pack not launching
L2428[20:29:28] <Izaya> paging The_Stargazer and Ariri I guess
L2429[20:30:18] <pay​onel> @Forecaster it returns what mc's runCommand returns
L2430[20:30:18] <Brisingr​Aerowing> What launcher are you using?
L2431[20:30:24] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Izaya
L2432[20:30:32] <Izaya> MultiMC
L2433[20:30:38] <Forec​aster> @payonel the second return value is a string and is what the command returns
L2434[20:30:40] <AmandaC> Izaya: no errors or anything?
L2435[20:30:48] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Check the log window.
L2436[20:30:48] <Izaya> it seems stuck on [05:28:35] [main/INFO] [STDOUT]: [team.chisel.ctm.client.asm.CTMTransformer:finishTransform:242]: Transforming net.minecraftforge.client.ForgeHooksClient Finished.
L2437[20:30:51] <Forec​aster> the first value is 0 or 1 for failure/success respectively
L2438[20:31:04] <Izaya> was there a pack update I missed
L2439[20:31:23] <pay​onel> @Forecaster both are "results" of mc's runCommand
L2440[20:31:24] <Izaya> yes, yes there was
L2441[20:31:28] <pay​onel> runCommand returns an int
L2442[20:31:34] <Forec​aster> ah
L2443[20:31:38] <Forec​aster> strange
L2444[20:31:40] <pay​onel> and it sets a CommandSender.messages value
L2445[20:32:24] <Ar​iri> Yeah, I announced the hotfix, but it shouldve still loaded
L2446[20:33:54] <Forec​aster> well I updated the wiki to reflect this at least
L2447[20:34:28] <Forec​aster> oh
L2448[20:34:33] <Izaya> -Dorg.lwjgl.opengl.Window.undecorated=true
L2449[20:34:34] <Izaya> ?
L2450[20:34:46] <Forec​aster> I also just noticed it makes no mention of having to bind it to a player for permissions on a server
L2451[20:34:59] <Izaya> is this for borderless fullscreen
L2452[20:35:13] <Ar​iri> Yeah, forgot to remove
L2453[20:35:19] <Izaya> neat
L2454[20:35:30] <Izaya> why not do it in your window manager though
L2455[20:35:40] <Izaya> because it's not automatic ig
L2456[20:35:44] <Izaya> anyway, yeah, still not launching
L2457[20:36:13] <Izaya> https://paste.ee/p/foUMa
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L2459[20:37:12] <Forec​aster> hm, seems the binding is only required for running commands
L2460[20:37:35] <Forec​aster> the other callbacks seems to work without it, like getPlayers()
L2461[20:39:45] <Forec​aster> I wonder what `connectToBlock` is for
L2462[20:40:08] <Forec​aster> it just says it connects the debug card to a block at the specified coordinates
L2463[20:40:25] <Forec​aster> but it just returns a bool and doesn't say what it's for
L2464[20:40:28] <Izaya> oh
L2465[20:40:32] <Izaya> the pack doesn't like OpenJ9
L2466[20:40:34] <Izaya> a shame
L2467[20:41:12] <pay​onel> @Forecaster that's for the oc network
L2468[20:41:20] <pay​onel> you can connect to any oc block component
L2469[20:41:29] <Forec​aster> oh
L2470[20:42:09] <Forec​aster> this might need to be a little more specific than "connect" and "block" then because I had no idea
L2471[20:42:16] <Ar​iri> The server is running which ever openjava had update 251
L2472[20:42:22] <Ar​iri> So try that Izaya
L2473[20:42:54] <Forec​aster> I think you can't run mc with anything above 8
L2474[20:42:58] <Izaya> I launched it with normal OpenJDK instead of OpenJ9
L2475[20:43:14] <Izaya> OpenJ9 is Java 8 with Java 9 garbage collection stuff
L2476[20:43:18] <Izaya> I'
L2477[20:43:29] <Izaya> m not surprised it can cause issues with how hard Minecraft abuses the JVM though
L2478[20:43:32] <Forec​aster> ah
L2479[20:44:55] <Ar​iri> I installed this with apt `sudo apt install openjdk-8-jre-headless`
L2480[20:45:00] <Ar​iri> I installed this with apt `openjdk-8-jre-headless` [Edited]
L2481[20:45:31] <Izaya> local/jdk8-openjdk 8.u242-1
L2482[20:45:35] <Izaya> that one's working fine for me
L2483[20:45:39] <Forec​aster> that's what I used for mine earlier (after trying `default-jre` which installed 11 which did not work at all)
L2484[20:46:01] <Forec​aster> or `default-java` was maybe what the package was called, yeah
L2485[20:47:27] <Forec​aster> oh, err
L2486[20:48:03] <Forec​aster> I should probably have the program zero out the players account after the payout was successful, and not do it before there might be an error stopping the player actually getting anything xD
L2487[20:49:47] <Forec​aster> or rather, if the payment failed, put the money back into the account (in case more came in in-between)
L2488[20:50:43] <Forec​aster> yep, that's better
L2489[20:51:02] <Forec​aster> man, all of this stuff that seemed to be working great
L2490[20:51:19] <Forec​aster> testing in a new environment => dozens of issues crop up
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L2493[21:07:38] <Blue_595> analog video question
L2494[21:07:58] <Blue_595> Y/I/Q (NTSC) Y/U/V (PAL) and Y/Db/Dr (SECAM) are all obviously different, which makes sense
L2495[21:08:06] <Blue_595> but why are they different from Y/Pb/Pr as well?
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L2497[21:09:07] <Blue_595> o/
L2498[21:09:17] <Blue_595> working on a video card, with the BH7236 video encoder
L2499[21:10:38] <Blue_595> i want to add component video, which isn't generated by this chip (theres more than 3 NC pins, could have easily added another matrix thing)
L2500[21:10:57] <Blue_595> it has an S-video output (Y/C) and i was hoping i could reuse that Y signal, but i cant
L2501[21:11:27] <Blue_595> S-Video Y = 0.299R + 0.587G + 0.114B
L2502[21:11:54] <Blue_595> Component Y = 0.2126R + 0.7152G + 0.0722B
L2503[21:12:35] <Blue_595> do i still add component video (at the cost of 4 op-amps and a THS7314 driver) or do i give up
L2504[21:13:27] <Blue_595> although i guess it could be an external converter pack with the R G B Cs and P jacks
L2505[21:14:27] <Inari> @The_Stargazer so it's a PvP server now?
L2506[21:15:01] <AmandaC> Inari: you can opt out of the pvp
L2507[21:15:14] <Inari> Well, not that I mind
L2508[21:15:18] <Inari> Just don't see it working with like 5 players
L2509[21:15:19] <Inari> :p
L2510[21:19:07] <Forec​aster> Blue_595 I think asie is the person to ask about video stuff?
L2511[21:19:13] <Blue_595> ok
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L2514[21:26:17] <Kristo​pher38> I imagine asie, owning an amiga, would know
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L2516[21:28:42] <Blue_595> screw it no component video
L2517[21:30:25] <Blue_595> i feel like i want to use STEbus for my computer project
L2518[21:30:52] <Blue_595> 160x100mm cards, but i can only make up to 100x100mm before it's too expensive
L2519[21:31:12] <Blue_595> so
L2520[21:31:38] <Blue_595> 100x100mm board with the bus connector, doing most of the stuff
L2521[21:32:40] <Blue_595> 100x100mm board (60x100mm before it starts fraying since it just needs to connect to various pins) with the I/O connectors and driver stuff like the BH7236, or a MAX232, or whatever
L2522[21:34:10] <asie> j25i don't own an amga
L2523[21:34:13] <asie> i don't own an amiga*
L2524[21:34:19] <asie> i traded it for other retro hardware and i regret it a lot
L2525[21:34:46] <Blue_595> did you at least keep the 512K RAM expansion (if it was present in the "trapdoor")?
L2526[21:35:19] <Blue_595> also screw that 2 boards idea, im going normal size, it should be fine
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L2528[21:39:45] <Blue_595> o/
L2529[21:41:39] <Paulek> hi
L2530[21:42:13] <Blue_595> working on an STEbus CPU card built around the 65C02...
L2531[21:42:30] <Blue_595> just because its a standard bus doesnt mean its a standard memory map
L2532[21:42:35] <Blue_595> im working on that part rn
L2533[21:45:25] <Blue_595> how big was the BIOS ROM on the IBM 5150?
L2534[21:49:50] <Blue_595> i decided to use 24KB low RAM (SRAM $0000-$5FFF)
L2535[21:50:04] <Blue_595> 16KB ROM ($C000-$FFF)
L2536[21:50:07] <Blue_595> FFFF*
L2537[21:50:36] <Blue_595> 16KB high RAM ($8000-$BFFF)
L2538[21:51:11] <Blue_595> 8KB I/O space ($6000-$7FFF)
L2539[21:52:12] <Blue_595> from there, the I/O page will be p$0000 to p$1FFF
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L2541[21:52:38] <Blue_595> or even p(0-7)$000-$3FF
L2542[21:53:41] <Blue_595> p0 will be system management (serial port, keyboard matrix, PIC, MMU, etc.)
L2543[21:54:58] <Blue_595> well actually PIC wont be in system management
L2544[21:55:20] <Blue_595> read $0000 to check the priority of the current interrupt
L2545[21:55:33] <Blue_595> write $0000 to acknowledge that interrupt and allow another one
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L2547[21:56:08] <Blue_595> the controller will keep IRQ asserted until a Vector Pull occurs (65C02 lets me see that)
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L2549[22:00:40] <Blue_595> 2 states on top of idle (IREQ and IACT) for this
L2550[22:00:51] <Blue_595> only during idle, will i allow new interrupt requests
L2551[22:01:39] <PwnageP​ineapple> I don't suppose someone else has already built a TLS equivalent over Minitel yet?
L2552[22:02:17] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 👀
L2553[22:02:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i may or may not have
L2554[22:02:32] <Blue_595> Idle -IRQ-> IREQ (ISR INT) -VPB-> IACT (ISR) -IAK-> Idle
L2555[22:02:33] <PwnageP​ineapple> Do tell
L2556[22:02:44] <Blue_595> when i say idle i really mean run
L2557[22:02:54] <Blue_595> theres also gonna be a run/stop switch on the CPU board
L2558[22:04:34] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so
L2559[22:05:15] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i used curve25519, blake2b, and ice
L2560[22:05:21] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> *icekey
L2561[22:05:29] <PwnageP​ineapple> So it's pure Lua?
L2562[22:05:37] <PwnageP​ineapple> No data card?
L2563[22:05:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> yea
L2564[22:06:01] <PwnageP​ineapple> oooh
L2565[22:06:15] <PwnageP​ineapple> That means I don't have to waste a card slot
L2566[22:06:25] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> mhm
L2567[22:06:27] <PwnageP​ineapple> Is it on the forums?
L2568[22:06:35] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i'll need to do more speed and debugging test
L2569[22:06:39] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> no not yet
L2570[22:06:56] <Blue_595> tier 3 data card lets you use ecdh and ecdsa :)
L2571[22:07:03] <Blue_595> and lets you make a key pair
L2572[22:07:10] <PwnageP​ineapple> But card slot
L2573[22:07:42] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> okay?
L2574[22:07:49] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i can make a keypair in pure lua
L2575[22:07:54] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> and do ecdh
L2576[22:07:57] <Blue_595> OS data block is a tier 1 data card? but of course with a special hash function
L2577[22:08:30] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> what
L2578[22:09:06] *** Blue_595 is now known as Tetris
L2579[22:09:20] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> that reminds me
L2580[22:09:24] *** Tetris is now known as Blue_595
L2581[22:09:26] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i need to implement eddsa
L2582[22:09:30] *** Blue_595 is now known as c8h10n4o2
L2583[22:09:37] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> why do you keep changing your name
L2584[22:09:41] *** c8h10n4o2 is now known as Blue_595
L2585[22:10:17] <Blue_595> accidentally released mine and wanted to make sure i fixed it
L2586[22:11:20] <Blue_595> this is fun
L2587[22:11:24] <PwnageP​ineapple> I'd certainly like to get my hands on Minitel TLS for a couple projects of mine
L2588[22:12:17] <Blue_595> this is amazing
L2589[22:13:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ok
L2590[22:15:05] <PwnageP​ineapple> My "baby steps" project (that I'm 90% done with) is a Mekanism fusion reactor monitor, so I can get used to working with Minitel, RC scripts, and the like, and my next project in NFS over Minitel, which definitely needs to be encrypted
L2591[22:15:31] <PwnageP​ineapple> My "baby steps" project (that I'm 90% done with) is a Mekanism fusion reactor monitor, so I can get used to working with Minitel, RC scripts, and the like, and my next project is NFS over Minitel, which definitely needs to be encrypted [Edited]
L2592[22:16:05] <AmandaC> @Ariri the just enough Resources needs it's ore gen json re-generated. Not sure if that then needs to be sent back down via a client pack update or not, though: https://github.com/way2muchnoise/JustEnoughResources/wiki/Profiling
L2593[22:16:33] <AmandaC> @Ariri since different mods and their oregen are in the pack, some ores won't appear in JEI until that's done.
L2594[22:19:23] <Blue_595> wait i just realized
L2595[22:19:35] <Blue_595> im using exactly one memory location
L2596[22:19:41] <Blue_595> i need 2 8-input NOR gates
L2597[22:20:57] <Blue_595> chip group A is CPU, RAM, ROM
L2598[22:21:07] <Blue_595> chip group B is address decoding and R/W
L2599[22:21:16] <Blue_595> chip group C is the special state machine and IRQ
L2600[22:26:03] <Blue_595> gonna use 74HC series parts
L2601[22:28:31] <Klea​dron> you guys know ProjectE and how it's a recreation of equivilent echange 2 in modern versions
L2602[22:28:44] <Klea​dron> i'm suprised there isn't something like that for thaumcraft 2
L2603[22:29:00] <Blue_595> Acorn Computers got its name partially because it went before Apple in the phone book
L2604[22:29:13] <Blue_595> continuing that trend, my Minecraft save with Project Red Fabrication will be called
L2605[22:29:16] <Blue_595> wait for it
L2606[22:29:21] <Blue_595> Aardvark Semiconductor
L2607[22:29:57] <Blue_595> (custom chips)
L2608[22:30:05] <Blue_595> Aardvark Electronics (assembly)
L2609[22:30:08] <Blue_595> etc
L2610[22:30:26] <Ar​iri> Wilco, will do and put in the folder.
L2611[22:30:27] <Ar​iri> I forgot about that since I didn’t need to do it for just 2-3 ores added last time.
L2612[22:32:53] <Ar​iri> Is there a better way of updating the EnvTech miner config, I wonder... I had to add the ore Id last time
L2613[22:33:31] <Blue_595> gonna need a bunch of pull resistors
L2614[22:33:36] <Blue_595> surface mount?
L2615[22:34:55] <Blue_595> am i gonna end up using the RDY pin?
L2616[22:35:33] <Blue_595> yes i am
L2617[22:35:41] <Blue_595> to wait for the CPU to finish what its doing before responding to DMA requests
L2618[22:36:43] <Blue_595> i dont think i need to be able to know when the CPU specifically gets an instruction
L2619[22:42:22] <Blue_595> so the BE pin on this chip
L2620[22:42:40] <Blue_595> when pulled low, it makes Address, Data, and R/W go tri-state
L2621[22:45:15] <Blue_595> and it was at this point i realized
L2622[22:45:23] <Blue_595> theres a complicated CM0 CM1 CM2 thing
L2623[22:45:30] <Blue_595> but fuck it no acknowledge
L2624[22:46:39] <Blue_595> CM2 is bus activity, CM1 is /IORQ, CM0 is R/W
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L2626[22:56:30] <Blue_595> rip
L2627[23:16:02] <Blue_595> the STEbus standard says
L2628[23:16:09] <Blue_595> - all bus inputs must be schmitt trigger
L2629[23:16:17] <Blue_595> - all bus outputs must be able to drive 20 inputs
L2630[23:16:28] <Blue_595> i think the 75HC245 is perfect for this
L2631[23:16:35] <Blue_595> 74HC* ffs
L2632[23:16:40] <Forec​aster> https://imgur.com/gallery/GaXh47d
L2633[23:17:41] <Blue_595> i saw a continuous musical road once
L2634[23:17:50] <Blue_595> but they got the spacing wrong by a constant amount
L2635[23:17:52] <Blue_595> so it sounds like shit
L2636[23:19:46] <Blue_595> different speeds result in different "keys" or something when playing
L2637[23:19:53] <Blue_595> sounds normal at the speed limit iirc
L2638[23:23:11] <Blue_595> wait i just realized
L2639[23:23:22] <Blue_595> im adding bus transceivers to comply with STEbus specs
L2640[23:23:33] <Blue_595> why am i even using the BE pin on the CPU?
L2641[23:23:50] <Blue_595> oh because the RAM is also behind the transceivers
L2642[23:23:51] * Blue_595 facepalms
L2643[23:24:01] <Kristo​pher38> they do result in different notes, but they're all offset by the same amount
L2644[23:24:20] <Blue_595> yes same amount
L2645[23:24:29] <Blue_595> meaning its not even "oh just drive a bit faster/slower/whatever"
L2646[23:24:39] <Blue_595> sounds shit
L2647[23:24:43] <Kristo​pher38> so they sound okay, at least to a non-musician
L2648[23:25:34] <Kristo​pher38> musician would be able to tell if the tune is offset from its original key
L2649[23:26:20] <Kristo​pher38> in the example Tom Scott described in one of his videos, they sound shit because the builders fucked up the spacing between the rows which are supposed to produce sound
L2650[23:26:59] <Kristo​pher38> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef93WmlEho0
L2651[23:27:00] <MichiBot> Why California's Musical Road Sounds Terrible | length: 3m 29s | Likes: 254,591 Dislikes: 6,361 Views: 10,983,315 | by Tom Scott | Published On 16/10/2017
L2652[23:27:20] <Blue_595> who the hell would dislike that video
L2653[23:27:32] <Blue_595> why are they even watching that video in the first place
L2654[23:27:43] <AmandaC> Foxes. Foxes would
L2655[23:29:47] <AmandaC> Also >sounds normal at the speed limit
L2656[23:29:49] <AmandaC> WONDER WHY!>?
L2657[23:33:07] <Blue_595> hmm cant possibly imagine why
L2658[23:33:14] <Blue_595> maybe because most people are already going FASTER?
L2659[23:33:26] <Blue_595> speed limit is just a number bruh
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L2661[23:33:46] <AmandaC> k.
L2662[23:34:50] <AmandaC> "Speed is just a number bruh" Blue_595 says, careening off the road at a tight bend
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