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L3[00:13:04] <Ar​iri> What. My boot drive for my server is 100% full. It has packages, and thats it. How...
L4[00:20:08] <Ocawes​ome101> `rm -rf /var/cache/<apt? dpkg?>`
L5[00:21:13] <Lizzy> trying to do `apt clean` would be a better first step
L6[00:21:47] <Ar​iri> How can I see what directories are using space? I tried a sort command but it won't work because i have literally no space somehow.
L7[00:21:58] <Ar​iri> No improvement^
L8[00:22:20] <ThePi​Guy24> k4dirstat
L9[00:22:24] <Ocawes​ome101> `du`
L10[00:22:27] <pay​onel> `du -sh /path/*`
L11[00:22:32] <Lizzy> the du command can list directory sizes. i normally do `du -hsx *` at /
L12[00:22:55] <Lizzy> (the extra -x flag means it wont try and scan other mount points)
L13[00:23:04] <Lizzy> best run as root
L14[00:26:22] <Ar​iri> A 9.9g /var, 2.8g /usr, and a 1.4g docker-config dont equal 106g...
L15[00:26:41] <Ar​iri> the rest are mb and kb
L16[00:27:02] <Lizzy> weird. is `df` reporting that your / mount is full?
L17[00:27:44] <Ar​iri> im going to rm docker since im not using it?
L18[00:27:46] <Ar​iri> im going to rm docker since im not using it [Edited]
L19[00:27:52] <Ar​iri> And yes, 100%.
L20[00:29:19] <Ar​iri> `/dev/sda2 110G 104G 188M 100% /`
L21[00:29:45] <Lizzy> hmm
L22[00:29:59] <Ar​iri> http://tinyurl.com/y97vqo6p
L23[00:30:44] <Lizzy> %lua 9.9+2.8+1.4+87
L24[00:30:45] <MichiBot> 101.1
L25[00:30:51] <Ar​iri> It said 100% when it was at 106g used as well, interestingly enough
L26[00:30:59] <Lizzy> check your /home
L27[00:31:03] <Lizzy> that's 87GB
L28[00:31:04] <Ar​iri> Oh. Didnt see that
L29[00:31:44] <Ar​iri> 79g of downloads on my user wth
L30[00:31:49] <Ocawes​ome101> yikes
L31[00:32:40] <Ar​iri> Oh. Its a failed torrent
L32[00:32:45] <Lizzy> lol
L33[00:32:51] <Ar​iri> Its actually empty but it reserved that much.
L34[00:33:14] <Ar​iri> All better now, thanks.
L35[00:35:37] <Ar​iri> And now the ol' `Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5300 @ 2.60GHz` can handle transcoding for Plex, woot.
L36[00:41:05] <Amanda> `ncdu` is the best tool I've heard of for finding what's using the disk
L37[00:41:22] <Amanda> pretty curses UI
L38[00:48:43] <Lizzy> one that i've been using recently (full gui based though, not text based) is graphical-disk-map
L39[00:49:32] <Lizzy> it's in arch's repos as gdmap, not sure what it'lll be in others
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L43[01:36:56] <murlocking6> man, I finally did it !
L44[01:37:21] <murlocking6> not like I wanted in the first place but I had a brilliant idea to make it easier
L45[01:41:55] <murlocking6> If you want to watch my robot in action :P twitch.tv/murlocking
L46[01:55:09] <Amanda> oh good, another nix garbage collection must have happen, lilac now has 39g of disk free, not 15
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L48[01:55:41] <B​ob> murlocking6 360p stream can't see stuff lol
L49[01:55:44] <B​ob> up to at least 720p pls
L50[01:57:07] <murlocking6> Give me power.
L51[01:58:27] <B​ob> my GTX 650 can pull out 720p
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L54[02:00:06] <Kristo​pher38> oh god 360p
L55[02:00:08] <Kristo​pher38> my eyes
L56[02:00:44] <Ocawes​ome101> my 2010 MBP could get almost 720p using CPU encoding
L57[02:00:48] <Ocawes​ome101> wasn't pretty but it worked
L58[02:01:03] * Amanda shakes stick at these kids who never had tosufferfrom 480p camaral dansen videos
L59[02:01:12] <Kristo​pher38> @Ocawesome101 will monolith be an OS that you actually finish? :P
L60[02:01:35] <Ocawes​ome101> that's my goal
L61[02:01:41] <murlocking6> My computer is able to stream 1080p and up... i have 0,5mb/s speed
L62[02:01:52] <Ocawes​ome101> it's actually a base that's decent to work with so idk
L63[02:01:52] <Amanda> Sorry, "480p"
L64[02:01:56] <B​ob> compress 720p
L65[02:02:04] <Amanda> more like up-scaled 240p
L66[02:02:06] <murlocking6> If I stream in higher resolution it looks like shit
L67[02:02:06] <B​ob> im ready to trade FPS for quality
L68[02:02:15] <B​ob> 360p looks blurry af
L69[02:02:24] <Kristo​pher38> well if you stream at this resolution it looks like shit as well
L70[02:02:27] <murlocking6> that's the trade off
L71[02:02:42] <Kristo​pher38> yeah, it either looks like shit or it looks like shit
L72[02:02:46] <B​ob> blurry < stuterry
L73[02:02:47] <murlocking6> lol
L74[02:03:04] <murlocking6> you got it right @kristopher38 :D
L75[02:03:06] <B​ob> fitting a stream in 500kb/s is hard yeah
L76[02:03:06] <Amanda> Izaya would appreciate the camaral dansen video that introduced me to that meme. Cut up Haruhi end credits to dance to the song
L77[02:03:15] <Kristo​pher38> @Ocawesome101 aren't all projects supposed to get finished when you're doing them? :D
L78[02:03:26] <murlocking6> Guys, I need help again.
L79[02:03:26] <Amanda> ( Is also what introduced me to the haruhi anime )
L80[02:03:36] <Ocawes​ome101> K38: ...true
L81[02:03:37] * Amanda sneaks off to use the rain box
L82[02:03:41] <B​ob> murlocking6 you got 0.5MB/s or mbps ?
L83[02:04:18] <murlocking6> 0.5mbps i think
L84[02:04:27] <murlocking6> the worse of the two
L85[02:04:37] <B​ob> ah well defenitely can't stream lol good luck
L86[02:04:41] <B​ob> i had 0.1mbps before i moved out
L87[02:04:47] <murlocking6> yeah lol , it sucks
L88[02:04:57] <B​ob> old cabling probs
L89[02:04:59] <Kristo​pher38> I hope you finish it, looks solid so far based on that checklist you got in the readme
L90[02:05:02] <murlocking6> Only streaming for fun, not expecting to make a living of it lol
L91[02:05:18] <Kristo​pher38> and you'll finally be able to do a project that ISN'T an OS :P
L92[02:05:31] <Amanda> Today in stupid mod ideas: a mod that measures your upstream speed, then transfers fluids at (upload speed Mbps) mBps
L93[02:05:44] <Ocawes​ome101> K38: hah lol
L94[02:05:51] <Ocawes​ome101> true
L95[02:06:07] <Ocawes​ome101> I mean, Photon had a pretty solid checklist too
L96[02:06:09] <Ocawes​ome101> and it's a nice base
L97[02:06:18] <Ocawes​ome101> but it has a `term` API and no VT100
L98[02:06:20] <Corded> * <Ocawes​ome101> shudders
L99[02:06:26] <murlocking6> Ok, so my program seems to work correctly except for one thing. When I first run the digit() function, it does everything in that function perfectly but when my slot 4 gets to 2 or lower, it doesn't pull rails from the chest like it should. Why is that? https://pastebin.com/vgyVsdPT
L100[02:07:00] <murlocking6> It does pull rails for the first loop when I call digit(), but only the first loop
L101[02:08:33] <Kristo​pher38> Which reminds me
L102[02:09:16] <murlocking6> linked wrong code, hold on..
L103[02:09:34] <Kristo​pher38> I wanted to hack Izaya's vt100 terminal emulator to display characters sent using projectred's bundled cables
L104[02:09:40] <B​ob> you can't fuck up indentation this much in an IDE come on
L105[02:09:47] <murlocking6> https://pastebin.com/5fDxa5nY
L106[02:10:59] <murlocking6> @Bob What do you mean? This is art.
L107[02:11:12] <B​ob> eye bone apple tea
L108[02:11:58] <Kristo​pher38> Eh I need to start working on my projects again but I suck at not distracting myself from doing the work I'm supposed to so it takes way longer than it should and I'm left with little time to do stuff
L109[02:12:37] <B​ob> i just can't
L110[02:12:39] <murlocking6> @Bob any idea why it only run the 'getRail(stack_info)' once in the digit() loop ?
L111[02:13:09] <B​ob> the loop loops one time ?
L112[02:13:17] <murlocking6> No?
L113[02:13:39] <murlocking6> I'm calling it like so 'digit() 100'
L114[02:15:53] <B​ob> the code just throws me off
L115[02:16:05] <B​ob> it doesn't seem to be wrong
L116[02:17:16] <B​ob> d() isn't even declared
L117[02:17:20] <B​ob> what am i loocking at
L118[02:17:44] <murlocking6> What ?
L119[02:18:10] <B​ob> oof it is
L120[02:18:20] <B​ob> linter died
L121[02:19:13] <murlocking6> lol
L122[02:20:07] <murlocking6> my shitty code killed it ?
L123[02:21:00] <Kristo​pher38> What is getrail supposed to do
L124[02:21:14] <Kristo​pher38> It just returns true or false
L125[02:21:36] <Kristo​pher38> And you're not even using that return value in any way
L126[02:22:16] <murlocking6> @kristopher38 read the part underneath it
L127[02:22:21] <murlocking6> that's also part of the function
L128[02:22:52] <Kristo​pher38> It isn't
L129[02:23:12] <murlocking6> How is it not? I can call it and it get rails from the chest.
L130[02:23:26] <Kristo​pher38> That function ends at line 164.
L131[02:23:41] <Kristo​pher38> Because the code below it is run once, when you run the whole script
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L133[02:23:56] <murlocking6> 124 end at 164 ?
L134[02:24:38] <Kristo​pher38> What the hell I was looking at refuel
L135[02:25:01] <Kristo​pher38> Oh well
L136[02:25:09] <murlocking6> Is my code that hard to read lol
L137[02:25:12] <Kristo​pher38> getRail is identical
L138[02:25:25] <murlocking6> yeah, similar
L139[02:25:30] <Kristo​pher38> Well it has the same problem
L140[02:25:36] <Kristo​pher38> It ends at 134.
L141[02:26:02] <murlocking6> But it doesn't, that's the thing.
L142[02:26:13] <murlocking6> I can show you on my stream. It pull the rail from a chest.
L143[02:26:37] <Kristo​pher38> Yeah, it is, because you're not doing proper indentation
L144[02:26:38] <murlocking6> Ah, I see
L145[02:27:13] <murlocking6> Yeah, you're right. It would run it anyway when the 'digit()' function is called , but only once.
L146[02:27:21] <murlocking6> How can I fix the indentation?
L147[02:27:25] <Kristo​pher38> I told you, the code below it is run once, when you start the script
L148[02:27:46] <murlocking6> Yeah, I get it now. Sorry. I'm a noob, don't forget that :P
L149[02:28:11] <B​ob> use correct indentation
L150[02:28:17] <B​ob> to see what is what
L151[02:28:28] <B​ob> using your IDE features isn't hard
L152[02:29:06] <murlocking6> Not hard when you know how to do it. If you have no idea what you're doing, that's a different thing man.
L153[02:29:14] <murlocking6> I had to google IDE earlier.
L154[02:29:28] <Kristo​pher38> Correct means for everything which is inside a function/if statement/loop use one more tab than in the previous level
L155[02:29:42] <B​ob> why are you doing Lua if you don't know what's what ?
L156[02:30:04] <murlocking6> Why do you care? I can do whatever I want.
L157[02:30:48] <murlocking6> I'm trying to code this robot so I can progress in my server. I'm not trying to become an expert, just learn the basics..
L158[02:30:51] <B​ob> yeah who am i to judge
L159[02:31:14] <B​ob> you can't learn OC without Lua
L160[02:33:27] <murlocking6> Damn, I was doing it wrong the whole time... I thought this was JAVA !
L161[02:33:34] <Kristo​pher38> That's a different language but the same concept applies - see how the proper indentation should look like http://tinyurl.com/yc3qulme
L162[02:34:23] <Kristo​pher38> Another example from a different language, with tabs coloured gray http://tinyurl.com/y8rlfca3
L163[02:35:17] <Kristo​pher38> Look how for each function/for/if they make the code inside those be indented one tab more than the previous one
L164[02:35:19] <murlocking6> And this is only to help you read the code and not make mistakes?
L165[02:35:31] <Kristo​pher38> It creates a nice structure
L166[02:36:13] <Kristo​pher38> Yes, it helps you read code, which plays big part in not making mistakes
L167[02:36:56] <murlocking6> I'm using Sublime Text 3, most of the time it place the code like in my code. I don't really move it around.
L168[02:38:30] <Kristo​pher38> You should indent it if when doesn't do it the way it should
L169[02:38:50] <Sagh​etti> i had a stroke trying to read that ngl
L170[02:38:51] <Kristo​pher38> After all, code is executed by machines, but read and understood by humans
L171[02:39:12] <B​ob> lmao
L172[02:39:14] <Kristo​pher38> Keeping your code readable is a big part of programming
L173[02:39:45] <Kristo​pher38> You should indent it when it doesn't do it the way it should [Edited]
L174[02:40:39] <Kristo​pher38> I'd say, one of the most important things
L175[02:41:57] <Kristo​pher38> Well anyway I'm off to bed, gn
L176[02:43:36] <murlocking6> gn man
L177[02:43:42] <murlocking6> thanks for the tips
L178[02:43:56] <B​ob> imma go too
L179[02:44:04] <murlocking6> gn u2
L180[04:13:19] <murlocking6> If i have 'break' do I need 'end' too ?
L181[04:13:44] <Ocawes​ome101> yes
L182[04:14:47] <murlocking6> thx :)
L183[04:15:49] <Ocawes​ome101> np
L184[04:18:00] <ThePi​Guy24> ugh why is PHP a pain
L185[04:18:28] <Ocawes​ome101> Pain, Hell, and more Pain
L186[04:18:30] <Ocawes​ome101> duh
L187[04:29:18] <The_St​argazer> %s/a pain//
L188[04:29:18] <MichiBot> <ThePiGuy24> ugh why is PHP
L189[04:29:24] <The_St​argazer> FTFY
L190[04:30:01] <Ocawes​ome101> maybe Perfectly Hypocritical Programming /s
L191[04:30:43] <The_St​argazer> you could also do:
L192[04:30:57] <The_St​argazer> %s/ugh why is PHP a pain/ugh why is PHP a thing/
L193[04:30:57] <MichiBot> <ThePiGuy24> ugh why is PHP a thing
L194[04:31:33] <The_St​argazer> (i provided the full string because i didn't want to just do 'pain' and have it find my previous %s)
L195[04:37:21] <Ocawes​ome101> :P
L196[04:47:02] <Ocawes​ome101> in the past 6 months I've gone from https://github.com/ocawesome101/open-oc-os to https://github.com/ocawesome101/oc-kernel (together ~1mo dev time, neither works) to https://github.com/ocawesome101/open-kernel (~2mo dev time) to https://github.com/ocawesome101/open-kernel-2 (another 1-2mo) to https://github.com/ocawesome101/photon (1mo) to https://github.com/ocawesome101/oc-monolith (~2w), each getting progressively better :P
L197[04:47:19] <Ocawes​ome101> sorry Discord users for the 5-6 links
L198[04:47:42] <Ocawes​ome101> or anything with embeds really
L199[04:51:03] <Ocawes​ome101> there was a gap there where I did a ton of CC osdev
L200[04:55:02] <The_St​argazer> you are like me, but worse
L201[04:55:14] <The_St​argazer> i usually just forget about my projects
L202[04:57:22] <Ocawes​ome101> lol
L203[04:57:44] <Ocawes​ome101> I just kind of abandon them and move on
L204[05:04:01] <Sagh​etti> i work on something for like 5 days
L205[05:04:05] <Sagh​etti> and then forget about it for a year
L206[05:04:09] <Sagh​etti> and then maybe come back
L207[05:04:18] <Ocawes​ome101> :P
L208[05:04:29] <Corded> * <Ocawes​ome101> remembers Quark, Craftbox
L209[05:04:50] <Sagh​etti> reeee
L210[05:05:05] <Sagh​etti> oh also i showed you my first ever lua os, right?
L211[05:05:11] <Ocawes​ome101> no I don't think so
L212[05:05:15] <Sagh​etti> the one designed for computercraft
L213[05:05:31] <Ocawes​ome101> maybe? I don't remember seeing it
L214[05:05:32] <Sagh​etti> https://github.com/xcrafter40/furnace-os
L215[05:05:44] <Sagh​etti> also ignore the username
L216[05:05:45] <Sagh​etti> it is cringe
L217[05:06:07] <Sagh​etti> but one thing it has: a really nice blittle splash screen
L218[05:06:11] <Sagh​etti> that took a while to make :P
L219[05:06:12] <Ocawes​ome101> > ComptuerCraft
L220[05:06:17] <Ocawes​ome101> n i c e
L221[05:06:27] <Ocawes​ome101> I can tell this is a very high quality prouct
L222[05:06:30] <Ocawes​ome101> I can tell this is a very high quality product [Edited]
L223[05:06:30] <Sagh​etti> because i was kinda scared of OC
L224[05:06:48] <Sagh​etti> and ccemu-redux was a godsend
L225[05:07:22] <Sagh​etti> fun fact: like 90% of the code is stolen from craftos
L226[05:07:27] <Sagh​etti> like all of the shell commands
L227[05:07:34] <Ocawes​ome101> hehehe nice
L228[05:09:34] <Sagh​etti> i didn't really know what ttys000 meant either
L229[05:09:49] <Sagh​etti> so i just kinda stole it from my terminal
L230[05:09:53] <Ocawes​ome101> lol
L231[05:09:55] <Sagh​etti> yes, i used to use a mac
L232[05:09:56] <Ocawes​ome101> god this is awful
L233[05:10:00] <Sagh​etti> it really is
L234[05:10:04] <Ocawes​ome101> I mean hey
L235[05:10:11] <Ocawes​ome101> I used Macs for like 12 years
L236[05:10:16] <Sagh​etti> you gotta start somewhere
L237[05:10:46] <Sagh​etti> i used macs for at least like 5 years
L238[05:10:57] <Sagh​etti> fun fact: my first ever laptop was an IBM thinkpad
L239[05:11:00] <Sagh​etti> running windows xp
L240[05:11:12] <Ocawes​ome101> nice
L241[05:11:13] <Sagh​etti> i was like 4 at the time, i didn't know anything
L242[05:11:22] <Ocawes​ome101> my first laptop was an early 2006 MBP
L243[05:11:26] <Sagh​etti> i kept on pressing the "ThinkVantage" button and it did stuff
L244[05:11:31] <Sagh​etti> i thought it was an e-mail
L245[05:11:35] <Ocawes​ome101> running MacOS X... old
L246[05:11:56] <Ocawes​ome101> 10.6.8 iirc
L247[05:12:05] <Sagh​etti> ah man
L248[05:12:12] <Sagh​etti> snow leopard was great
L249[05:12:35] <Sagh​etti> one of my favorite things that blew my mind as a small kiddo
L250[05:12:44] <Sagh​etti> was when i took the apple tv remote and pointed it at my mac
L251[05:12:55] <Sagh​etti> and suddenly it turned into an apple tv
L252[05:13:00] <Izaya> Apple TV is a recent thing?
L253[05:13:05] <Sagh​etti> 🤯
L254[05:13:05] <Ocawes​ome101> hehehe nice
L255[05:13:11] <Izaya> side note, OS X is a PITA to use
L256[05:13:26] <Sagh​etti> first apple tv released in 2007
L257[05:13:33] <Izaya> really?
L258[05:13:34] <Ocawes​ome101> fun fact: we still have that e2k6 MBP, and it still works perfectly
L259[05:13:35] <Izaya> goddamn
L260[05:13:54] <Ocawes​ome101> dvd drive and everything
L261[05:14:07] <Ocawes​ome101> runs snow leopard like a champ
L262[05:14:15] <Sagh​etti> actually tho
L263[05:14:19] <Sagh​etti> front seat was really charming
L264[05:14:29] <Ocawes​ome101> just stop and think
L265[05:14:39] <Ocawes​ome101> that laptop is 14 years old
L266[05:14:40] <Izaya> got a G4 eMac
L267[05:14:52] <Ocawes​ome101> and had fewer issues than my 2010 MBP
L268[05:14:53] <Izaya> OS X encouraged me to replace it with Debian 7 when Debian 9 was current
L269[05:15:23] <Ocawes​ome101> the 2010 had a bad charging port for most of the time I had it
L270[05:15:25] <Sagh​etti> i remember installing rEFInd
L271[05:15:34] <Ocawes​ome101> ah yes
L272[05:15:35] <Sagh​etti> and getting some distro of linux installed
L273[05:15:39] <Ocawes​ome101> rEFInd
L274[05:15:41] <Sagh​etti> it blew my mind so much
L275[05:15:43] <Ocawes​ome101> still around today
L276[05:15:43] <ThePi​Guy24> halp php is giving me nightmares
L277[05:15:44] <Izaya> man
L278[05:15:48] <Izaya> imagine EFI
L279[05:15:54] <Izaya> imagine not having superior ofw
L280[05:16:04] <Ocawes​ome101> TPG24: simple, don't use PHP
L281[05:16:06] <Ocawes​ome101> use Lua
L282[05:16:07] <Sagh​etti> "woah" - probably like 8 year old me
L283[05:16:14] <Sagh​etti> idek at this point
L284[05:16:17] <Izaya> tfw no current ofw machines
L285[05:16:25] <ThePi​Guy24> i have to use php, its for college
L286[05:16:35] <Ocawes​ome101> o
L287[05:16:57] <Sagh​etti> gags so hard that i stop breathing
L288[05:17:15] <Ocawes​ome101> SAGHETTI
L289[05:17:18] <Izaya> as long as you get to use current PHP
L290[05:17:20] <Corded> * <Ocawes​ome101> performs CPR
L291[05:17:25] <Izaya> still braindead, but less braindead
L292[05:17:44] <Sagh​etti> wheeze
L293[05:18:01] <Sagh​etti> alright i'm back
L294[05:18:10] <Sagh​etti> that was fun
L295[05:18:21] <Sagh​etti> %sip water
L296[05:18:22] <MichiBot> You drink some water. Wait... this isn't water... it's A Fiery Naqahdah potion!
L297[05:18:37] <Sagh​etti> %sip Fiery Naqahdah potion
L298[05:18:37] <MichiBot> You drink a fiery naqahdah potion (New!). An incredibly fake looking mustache is stuck to Sagh​etti's face until their next sip of water.
L299[05:18:49] <The_St​argazer> why do you have to use PHP for college?
L300[05:19:10] <Sagh​etti> %splash ocawesome101 with Fiery Naqahdah potion
L301[05:19:10] <MichiBot> You fling a fiery naqahdah potion that splashes onto ocawesome101. An incredibly fake looking mustache is stuck to ocawesome101's face until their next sip of water.
L302[05:19:26] <Sagh​etti> enjoy ;)
L303[05:19:47] <Ocawes​ome101> %sip antidote
L304[05:19:48] <MichiBot> Ocawes​ome101 reverts to their original state before any potions.
L305[05:19:54] <Ocawes​ome101> :)
L306[05:20:11] <Sagh​etti> :(
L307[05:20:20] <The_St​argazer> :|
L308[05:20:24] <The_St​argazer> %tonk
L309[05:20:24] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! The_St​argazer! You beat Li​zzy's previous record of 4 hours, 41 minutes and 36 seconds (By 3 hours, 15 minutes and 8 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L310[05:20:25] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer's new record is 7 hours, 56 minutes and 45 seconds! The_Stargazer also gained 0.01625 (0.00325 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #10 => #9. Need 0.10324 more points to pass DaCompu​terNerd!
L311[05:20:27] <Ocawes​ome101> %stab Saghetti with [Edited]
L312[05:20:28] <MichiBot> Ocawes​ome101 is stabbing Saghetti with [Edited] for 1d4 => 2 damage!
L313[05:20:35] <The_St​argazer> that's pretty good for a blind tonk
L314[05:20:44] <Sagh​etti> hold on
L315[05:20:50] <Sagh​etti> %inv add
L316[05:20:50] * MichiBot adds nothing to her inventory.
L317[05:21:12] <Sagh​etti> %inv add a [Edited]
L318[05:21:17] <Sagh​etti> dang it
L319[05:21:19] <Sagh​etti> it's too smart
L320[05:21:43] <Sagh​etti> it should've added a [Edited]
L321[05:21:49] <Izaya> %inv add inconsiderate repeated [Edited] messages
L322[05:21:54] <Izaya> %inv add inconsiderate repeated [Edited] messages
L323[05:21:55] * MichiBot summons 'inconsiderate repeated [Edited] messages' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L324[05:22:30] <The_St​argazer> a fix would be to just ignore message edits
L325[05:22:36] <The_St​argazer> i think?
L326[05:23:01] <The_St​argazer> (for corded, that is)
L327[05:23:15] <ThePi​Guy24> michibot already ignores edited messages
L328[05:23:19] <The_St​argazer> oh
L329[05:23:42] <The_St​argazer> how does it differentiate from edited messages and those who have [Edited] in them (or whatever it is)
L330[05:23:45] <Izaya> my favourite is when people do 4-line-long messages then edit them 8 times
L331[05:24:05] <ThePi​Guy24> editing
L332[05:24:08] <ThePi​Guy24> messages [Edited]
L333[05:24:11] <ThePi​Guy24> is [Edited]
L334[05:24:14] <ThePi​Guy24> kinda [Edited]
L335[05:24:16] <Izaya> a lie
L336[05:24:18] <ThePi​Guy24> irritating [Edited]
L337[05:24:55] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: would it be possible for you to add a message filter in your IRC client? is that a thing?
L338[05:26:11] <Sagh​etti> %inv add 40 pounds worth of apollo agc luminary listings
L339[05:26:11] * MichiBot summons '40 pounds worth of apollo agc luminary listings' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L340[05:26:29] <Izaya> it's an interesting idea
L341[05:26:45] <Izaya> till people edit multi-line things and it filters out only the bottom line :p
L342[05:26:51] <Sagh​etti> cool video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y37tXoBDx0
L343[05:26:51] <MichiBot> Looking at the original Apollo 12 code listing (and the 1202 fix) | length: 26m 54s | Likes: 1,379 Dislikes: 4 Views: 15,892 | by CuriousMarc | Published On 10/5/2020
L344[05:28:33] <Sagh​etti> the original AGC is awesome ngl
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L346[05:31:43] <Blue_595> im working on a 1200 baud modem (for some freaking reason)
L347[05:31:58] <Sagh​etti> working on as in repairing?
L348[05:32:05] <Blue_595> designing my own
L349[05:32:14] <Sagh​etti> ah ok
L350[05:32:55] <Blue_595> found a DAA schematic online (the part that connects it to the phone line) but it needs a part the internet doesnt know about
L351[05:33:01] <Blue_595> the HLL5243B zener diode
L352[05:33:13] <Blue_595> my question is: what voltage is that?
L353[05:34:49] <The_St​argazer> i mean
L354[05:34:53] <The_St​argazer> if the internet has no clue
L355[05:34:59] <The_St​argazer> chances are nobody here will
L356[05:34:59] <Blue_595> then why am i asking the internet
L357[05:35:07] <Sagh​etti> octal sucks
L358[05:35:16] <Sagh​etti> hexadecimal ftwe
L359[05:35:18] <Sagh​etti> hexadecimal ftw [Edited]
L360[05:35:25] <Sagh​etti> (sorry for edit, irc people)
L361[05:35:42] <The_St​argazer> do you know who made the part?
L362[05:35:46] <Blue_595> basically the DAA, from the phone jack to the signals going to the DPU (in my case cutting it off at TIP and RING, not RXA and TXA)
L363[05:36:20] <Blue_595> protection, a ringing detector goes somewhere so the modem knows when somebody wanna screech in his face,
L364[05:36:57] <Sagh​etti> i really want to learn more about how the PSTN works
L365[05:37:02] <The_St​argazer> https://www.tvsat.com.pl/pdf/1/1820-XXXX.pdf this mentions "HLL5243"
L366[05:37:06] <Blue_595> a relay to disconnect the rest fo the circuit from the line (idk why i guess its just useful), a bridge rectifier, a special active load with 3 resistors + an electrolytic capacitor + a darlington transistor
L367[05:37:33] <Blue_595> the zener diode i just mentioned, reverse biased
L368[05:37:45] <Sagh​etti> full bridge rectifier
L369[05:37:49] <Sagh​etti> more like
L370[05:37:51] <Sagh​etti> a puny diode
L371[05:37:53] <Blue_595> a transformer AC-coupled to this line with a 10uF capacitor to avoid bias
L372[05:38:12] <Blue_595> 5.1v TVS diode, and 1nF capacitor
L373[05:38:26] <Blue_595> (got this from page 40 of the RC288DPI datasheet)
L374[05:38:39] <Blue_595> (just cut it off before the 3 resistors connecting it to that chip)
L375[05:39:10] <Blue_595> damn 46 megabytes
L376[05:39:21] <Ocawes​ome101> anyways ima sign off for the night
L377[05:39:23] <Ocawes​ome101> gn all
L378[05:39:24] <Sagh​etti> same
L379[05:39:25] <Blue_595> not even gonna try sending that PDF over phone when im done
L380[05:39:25] <Sagh​etti> cya
L381[05:39:35] <The_St​argazer> that's the only result for "HLL5243 diode"
L382[05:39:41] <Blue_595> itll take half a day
L383[05:39:43] <Izaya> o/
L384[05:40:00] <The_St​argazer> well
L385[05:40:03] <The_St​argazer> i'm loading it now
L386[05:40:08] <The_St​argazer> it'll take a while but I'll have a look
L387[05:41:03] <Blue_595> searching the entire document for HLL5243B
L388[05:41:46] <Blue_595> god i just need a zener voltage
L389[05:42:12] <Blue_595> probably like 24v or something
L390[05:42:18] <The_St​argazer> don't guess
L391[05:42:31] <CompanionCube> Izaya: hm, one wonders if apple's uefi is crappier or better than what you normally get
L392[05:42:39] <The_St​argazer> i mean i don't know much about electronics but im p. sure an incorrect voltage can be fatal for a component
L393[05:43:07] <The_St​argazer> that document also comes up in a search for "HLL5243B diode"
L394[05:43:13] <Blue_595> ok
L395[05:43:20] <The_St​argazer> i'm almost done loading it
L396[05:43:36] <Blue_595> theres a 25v electrolytic capacitor and an inductor on the same 2 lines
L397[05:43:47] <Blue_595> id say 24v is a good zener voltage then
L398[05:44:00] <The_St​argazer> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L399[05:44:19] <Blue_595> screw it im going with 24 volts and if it explodes im dropping it to 20 volts
L400[05:44:27] <The_St​argazer> uh
L401[05:44:29] <The_St​argazer> if it explodes
L402[05:44:34] <The_St​argazer> won't it
L403[05:44:39] <The_St​argazer> y'know
L404[05:44:42] <The_St​argazer> destroy other parts too?
L405[05:44:49] <The_St​argazer> also
L406[05:44:55] <The_St​argazer> won't it destroy the diode?
L407[05:45:09] <Blue_595> yes
L408[05:45:23] <The_St​argazer> isn't that bad
L409[05:45:51] <Blue_595> i said id replace the diode with one with a lower zener voltage if it blew up, and its mainly resistors, electrolytic capacitors, and a few semiconductor parts going on before the transformer
L410[05:46:25] <The_St​argazer> ohh
L411[05:46:51] <Blue_595> (the FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER, the darlington transistor used for the part i dont fully understand but it works, and the zener diode itself) and theres only 2 electrolytic caps
L412[05:47:31] <Blue_595> "Football is a lot like education. The American version requires you to wear your body weight in armor and there's still no guarantee you won't get maimed."
L413[05:48:25] <Blue_595> anyway what was i talking about
L414[05:49:03] <The_St​argazer> welp, i can't find anything
L415[05:49:07] <The_St​argazer> apologies
L416[05:49:16] <Izaya> my favourite thing is dropping 200 pictures into gajim and watching the drop shadow from the file upload dialog become denser than the sun
L417[05:49:34] <Izaya> I suspect the sun isn't very dense, in which case, Sagittarius A*
L418[05:50:07] <Blue_595> just gonna go ahead and use a 20v Zener diode, so it doesnt explode
L419[05:50:53] <The_St​argazer> is it possible to run a small voltage (like 1v or something) through it and slowly increase it?
L420[05:51:05] <The_St​argazer> i mean i have no idea
L421[05:51:39] <The_St​argazer> anyway, i gtg for a bit
L422[05:51:40] <The_St​argazer> o/
L423[05:52:17] <Izaya> aah, that sucks, gitea doesn't support RSS for releases or anything by the looks
L424[05:53:35] <Blue_595> if you say "plz" or "pls" because its shorter than "please"
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L426[05:53:42] <Blue_595> i will say "no" because its shorter than "yes"
L427[05:55:42] <The_St​argazer> but you could also do "k" which is usually used to mean "ok" which can also mean "yes" and "k" is also shorter than "yes"
L428[05:55:55] <Blue_595> wooosh
L429[05:57:21] <ThePi​Guy24> i will say да because its shorter than арбуз
L430[05:57:38] <The_St​argazer> is that yes and no in russian?
L431[05:57:42] <ThePi​Guy24> no
L432[05:57:56] <ThePi​Guy24> да is yes, арбуз is watermelon
L433[05:58:00] <The_St​argazer> oh
L434[05:58:23] <Blue_595> da
L435[05:58:54] <Blue_595> д makes a 'd' sound
L436[05:58:59] <ThePi​Guy24> yes
L437[05:59:08] <ThePi​Guy24> щ is a fun letter
L438[05:59:09] <Blue_595> i am s l o w l y learning russian
L439[05:59:18] <Blue_595> so far just food and profanity
L440[05:59:25] ⇨ Joins: CarlenWhite (~CarlenWhi@22.sub-174-241-131.myvzw.com)
L441[05:59:25] <Blue_595> f o o d & p r o f a n i t y
L442[05:59:30] <ThePi​Guy24> yeah pretty much all i know too
L443[05:59:39] <Blue_595> ye
L444[05:59:55] <The_St​argazer> although i would advise against swearing at russians, especially drunk ones
L445[05:59:58] <ThePi​Guy24> чебуреки и пиздец
L446[06:00:06] <Izaya> swearing at russian food though...
L447[06:00:09] <The_St​argazer> i mean
L448[06:00:14] <The_St​argazer> are drunk russians a thing?
L449[06:00:27] <ThePi​Guy24> russians are always drunk
L450[06:00:28] <The_St​argazer> don't they have very high alcohol tolerance
L451[06:00:36] <Blue_595> -swearing at russian food-
L452[06:00:41] <Blue_595> cheburek, blyat
L453[06:00:42] <Izaya> as much as drunk australians are a thing
L454[06:01:01] <ThePi​Guy24> considering up until fairly recently, beer was considered a soft drink
L455[06:01:13] <Blue_595> they drink liquid potato
L456[06:01:19] <Izaya> beer is like
L457[06:01:23] <Izaya> single digit percent alcohol
L458[06:01:25] <Izaya> it is a soft drink
L459[06:01:26] <Blue_595> pretty sure theres a bunch of drunk guys there
L460[06:01:36] <Blue_595> nonono soft drink is less than 0.5% ABV
L461[06:01:38] <The_St​argazer> i mean
L462[06:01:41] <The_St​argazer> fermented liquid potato
L463[06:01:46] <Izaya> Blue_595: a misnomer, nobody actually drinks potato vodka if they can avoid it
L464[06:01:59] <Blue_595> anyway
L465[06:02:04] <ThePi​Guy24> водка tastes like hand sanitiser and i like it
L466[06:02:07] <The_St​argazer> also yeah drinking unrefined alcohol is.. probably bad.
L467[06:02:09] <Blue_595> i stand by my point- wait how the hell did we get here
L468[06:02:28] <Izaya> hand sanitiser and vodka are basically the same thing
L469[06:02:32] <ThePi​Guy24> > i will say да because its shorter than арбуз
L470[06:02:35] <Izaya> at least, good quality hand sanitiser
L471[06:02:40] <Blue_595> ok
L472[06:02:48] <ThePi​Guy24> vodka is ethanol, hand sanitiser is isopropanol
L473[06:02:57] <The_St​argazer> kill SARS-CoV-2 AND get drunk at the same time!
L474[06:03:04] <Izaya> they're both basically 100% alcohol though :D
L475[06:03:18] <Blue_595> but still i stand by my argument that soft drinks are under 0.5% alcohol
L476[06:03:22] <Blue_595> by volume
L477[06:03:26] <ThePi​Guy24> atleast its not ethanol
L478[06:03:37] <The_St​argazer> wait.
L479[06:03:37] <ThePi​Guy24> danit m key
L480[06:03:41] <Izaya> I wanna get a car from brazil so I can run it on alcohol I ferment myself
L481[06:03:46] <The_St​argazer> isopropanol?
L482[06:03:47] <ThePi​Guy24> ffs thats broken now
L483[06:03:56] <The_St​argazer> the same stuff used in screen cleaners?
L484[06:04:00] <The_St​argazer> or, wait
L485[06:04:03] <The_St​argazer> was that isopropyl
L486[06:04:08] <ThePi​Guy24> %s/ethanol/methanol
L487[06:04:09] <MichiBot> <ThePiGuy24> atleast its not methanol
L488[06:04:13] <Blue_595> donuts are now called Glazed Yeast Rings
L489[06:04:15] <Blue_595> youre welcome
L490[06:04:30] <ThePi​Guy24> read that as glazed yeet rings
L491[06:04:48] <ThePi​Guy24> and if thats the case, you are using your donuts wrong
L492[06:05:05] <ThePi​Guy24> for eating, not yeeting
L493[06:05:10] <Blue_595> Feel deGrass Tyson
L494[06:05:14] <The_St​argazer> donuts aren't for firing at unaware pedestrians at very high speeds?
L495[06:05:22] <ThePi​Guy24> sadly not
L496[06:05:24] <The_St​argazer> ..now I want a donut gun.
L497[06:05:33] <Izaya> they have bad properties for that
L498[06:05:38] <The_St​argazer> food fight extreme edition
L499[06:05:44] <Izaya> what you need for that is spherical, or cylindrical
L500[06:05:47] <Blue_595> a hot glue gun that shoots a stream of molten hot glue
L501[06:05:56] <The_St​argazer> that's not food
L502[06:06:09] <Izaya> like french bread or something
L503[06:06:13] <Blue_595> fire is the leading cause of fire
L504[06:06:18] <The_St​argazer> indeed
L505[06:06:24] <Blue_595> a lethal dose is also a lifetime supply
L506[06:06:26] <Izaya> s/fire/oxygen/
L507[06:06:26] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: baguette launcher?
L508[06:06:27] <MichiBot> <Blue_595> oxygen is the leading cause of fire
L509[06:06:33] <Izaya> yees
L510[06:06:34] <Blue_595> by calling something indescribable, you have described it
L511[06:06:42] <ThePi​Guy24> Blue_595: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1dWbiXnz_s
L512[06:06:43] <MichiBot> Your Robot Ideas Are Stupid | length: 7m 35s | Likes: 401,784 Dislikes: 11,279 Views: 9,347,318 | by Michael Reeves | Published On 26/1/2019
L513[06:06:46] <Blue_595> yeet and yoink are antonyms
L514[06:06:58] <Blue_595> yeah @ThePiGuy24 ik but that one didnt work
L515[06:07:07] <Blue_595> theres one by Joel Creates which shot pellets
L516[06:07:12] <Blue_595> then another one that shot a stream
L517[06:07:22] <Blue_595> in the words of Bobby Duke, "i want that"
L518[06:07:41] <Blue_595> in reality plants are actually farming us by<br>
L519[06:07:47] <ThePi​Guy24> glue isnt ideal for shooting due to its adhesive properties
L520[06:07:49] <Blue_595> giving us oxygen daily until we eventually decompose<br>
L521[06:07:53] <Blue_595> so they can consume us
L522[06:08:12] <Izaya> kill all plants
L523[06:08:12] <Blue_595> life is a sexually transmitted terminal disease
L524[06:08:20] <ThePi​Guy24> my god its 6 and i havent slept
L525[06:08:28] <ThePi​Guy24> college starts at 9
L526[06:08:30] <Izaya> which god
L527[06:08:32] <The_St​argazer> amateur
L528[06:08:38] <The_St​argazer> 6:00am is nothing
L529[06:08:38] <Blue_595> fertility is technically hereditary; if your parents didnt have children you likely wont either
L530[06:08:42] <ThePi​Guy24> the not existent one
L531[06:08:55] <Blue_595> high fiving someone is just slapping their hand
L532[06:09:04] <The_St​argazer> r/technicallythetruth
L533[06:09:08] <Blue_595> buy 2 items, pay for both
L534[06:09:15] <The_St​argazer> but wait.
L535[06:09:17] <The_St​argazer> when you say parents
L536[06:09:21] <The_St​argazer> do you mean biological?
L537[06:09:25] <Blue_595> yeah
L538[06:09:28] <The_St​argazer> ah
L539[06:09:30] <The_St​argazer> i was gonna say
L540[06:09:33] <The_St​argazer> if someone was adopted
L541[06:09:43] <The_St​argazer> it's possible their adoptive parents didn't have children
L542[06:09:47] <Blue_595> another thing from technically the truth, the tl;dr version of wikipedia which i need to find:
L543[06:09:52] <ThePi​Guy24> homocide victims rarely talk to police
L544[06:10:00] <The_St​argazer> >rarely
L545[06:10:07] <The_St​argazer> ghostly interrogation?
L546[06:10:12] <Blue_595> "Nagasaki is a Japanese port city that was founded by the Portuguese in the late 16th century and _unfounded_ by the United States on August 9, 1945."
L547[06:10:19] <Blue_595> > unfounded
L548[06:10:27] <The_St​argazer> foundn't
L549[06:10:49] <Blue_595> you know its cold outside when you go outside and its cold
L550[06:10:55] <The_St​argazer> ikr
L551[06:11:08] <The_St​argazer> i hate when its hot outside when i go outside and its cold
L552[06:11:08] <ThePi​Guy24> teen pregnancy drops of significantly after age 25
L553[06:11:13] <Blue_595> they killed the fish while it was still alive?!
L554[06:11:23] <The_St​argazer> %s/25/20
L555[06:11:24] <MichiBot> <ThePiGuy24> teen pregnancy drops of significantly after age 20
L556[06:12:17] <Blue_595> "being gay before the invention of lube must have been a pain in the ass" according to my history teacher this is actually a large contributing factor to the popularity of olive oil in Ancient Greece
L557[06:12:35] <ThePi​Guy24> hmmmm
L558[06:12:42] <Blue_595> i got my name for my birthday
L559[06:13:01] <The_St​argazer> possibly incorrect
L560[06:13:03] <Blue_595> "i think something is missing from my hart" probably an A
L561[06:13:10] <ThePi​Guy24> starvation can lead to health issues
L562[06:13:14] <The_St​argazer> what if your parents named you before you were born?
L563[06:13:15] <Blue_595> eggs are just really small boneless chickens
L564[06:13:54] <Blue_595> glass is called glass because its made of glass
L565[06:14:43] <Blue_595> according to a bunch of frick in the english language
L566[06:14:55] <Blue_595> potato should be spelled Ghoughphtheightteeau
L567[06:15:45] <Blue_595> youve never /actually/ watched a full movie
L568[06:16:02] <ThePi​Guy24> english is the worst language i know
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L570[06:16:06] <Blue_595> yeah
L571[06:16:30] <Izaya> https://letsalllovela.in/media/222aa72812b53e0bd4d67445c93a2620267ced77d5f281251ba462cceb354743.png
L572[06:17:29] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: that reminds me of something
L573[06:17:41] <Blue_595> you can kill someone by hitting them hard enough anywhere
L574[06:18:23] <Blue_595> "if you think about it chestnuts and pearl necklaces are virtually the same thing" someone please explain this to me
L575[06:18:44] <Izaya> chest nuts
L576[06:19:13] <The_St​argazer> one of my friends who lives in Australia made a joke about the dictionary definition of a coalition being "a bunch of wankers waving wands about"
L577[06:19:13] <The_St​argazer> which is, in his opinion, a synonym for "the Scott Morrison government"
L578[06:19:13] <The_St​argazer> thoughts?
L579[06:19:18] <ThePi​Guy24> new study finds that left handed people write better than people with no hands
L580[06:19:26] <Blue_595> apparently "A AE A- 12" is pronounced Kyle
L581[06:19:29] <Blue_595> ?!
L582[06:19:44] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: accurate
L583[06:19:49] <Blue_595> sorry "X AE A- 12"
L584[06:20:13] <Blue_595> "kh i(LONG) letter #12"?
L585[06:20:23] <Blue_595> is that it?
L586[06:20:34] <ThePi​Guy24> oh boy it seems that elon is abusing the quirks of the english language again
L587[06:21:05] <Blue_595> yes
L588[06:21:11] <ThePi​Guy24> just like "ghoti" can be pronounced "fish"
L589[06:21:21] <Blue_595> i feel like he just pulled letters out of a hat though
L590[06:21:27] <Blue_595> mm... X
L591[06:21:36] <Blue_595> next? . . . AE alright
L592[06:21:47] <Blue_595> alright A- now i just need a number
L593[06:22:25] <ThePi​Guy24> 12
L594[06:22:33] <Blue_595> ok
L595[06:22:37] <The_St​argazer> Blue_595: no it's not
L596[06:22:53] <Blue_595> wdym
L597[06:23:09] <The_St​argazer> google it
L598[06:23:12] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: https://social.shadowkat.net/media/6e651fa7a5a5cafd253fc7f3dd7ee17fd9ac4196d84bcb264dcb443377cc2461.png
L599[06:23:19] <Blue_595> WHAt is not
L600[06:23:38] <The_St​argazer> the name
L601[06:23:41] <The_St​argazer> it is not pronounced Kyle
L602[06:24:04] <Blue_595> ok hang on time to clear up a debate brb
L603[06:24:16] <Blue_595> [Loading Twitter...]
L604[06:24:37] <Izaya> >2020
L605[06:24:39] <Izaya> >twatter
L606[06:24:41] <Izaya> why
L607[06:25:01] <The_St​argazer> >twatter
L608[06:25:01] <The_St​argazer> i approve
L609[06:25:01] <ThePi​Guy24> myspace is where its at
L610[06:25:27] <Blue_595> ok put up the question
L611[06:25:30] <Blue_595> waiting for a response
L612[06:25:32] <Izaya> myspace is good, but have you considered geocities?
L613[06:26:08] <Blue_595> hahahahahahahh
L614[06:26:09] <Ar​iri> They're all balanced on the scale of nutjobs and semi-intellects/not shitposter
L615[06:26:32] <Izaya> friendly reminder to check out neocities
L616[06:27:12] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: full context: https://pastebin.com/Pcx8YdSM
L617[06:27:32] <Blue_595> the Thingity Thing
L618[06:27:35] <Blue_595> i love it
L619[06:28:04] <The_St​argazer> it's the new version of the SuperThinger
L620[06:28:16] <The_St​argazer> has twice as much thing power
L621[06:28:36] <Izaya> I will admit
L622[06:28:39] <The_St​argazer> for only slightly more money
L623[06:28:48] <Izaya> the current govt's handling of the whole covid thing could be much worse
L624[06:28:51] <Izaya> I mean, look at the US
L625[06:29:09] <Izaya> It may not be ideal, but at least we're only getting burned once this year
L626[06:29:17] <The_St​argazer> i mean
L627[06:29:26] <Blue_595> you can follow me btw, @595Blue
L628[06:29:35] <The_St​argazer> isn't Donald Trump suggesting people inject disinfectant into themselves?
L629[06:29:44] <Ar​iri> what.
L630[06:29:45] <Izaya> follow me instead
L631[06:29:49] <Izaya> @izaya@social.shadowkat.net
L632[06:29:56] <Blue_595> "a cure must kill the virus without killing the host.
L633[06:30:05] <Blue_595> injecting soap into your veins would not end well."
L634[06:30:28] <The_St​argazer> injecting acidic chemicals sounds like a GREAT idea!
L635[06:30:33] <Blue_595> waie
L636[06:30:35] <Blue_595> wait
L637[06:30:43] <Izaya> soap is basic, though, not acidic
L638[06:30:44] <The_St​argazer> even better, just drink bleach!
L639[06:30:48] <Blue_595> you have your own social platform?
L640[06:30:48] <The_St​argazer> it is?
L641[06:30:51] <Blue_595> social.shadowkat.net?!
L642[06:30:53] <Ar​iri> It amazes me how detective-like people are sometimes, incredible conclusions the mind can come to.
L643[06:30:57] <The_St​argazer> it's uhh
L644[06:30:57] <Izaya> it's just a pleroma instance
L645[06:30:58] <Ar​iri> Yes^
L646[06:30:59] <The_St​argazer> what's the term
L647[06:31:01] <The_St​argazer> yeah
L648[06:31:01] <The_St​argazer> that
L649[06:31:21] <Ar​iri> It took me 4 damn tries to partition this filesystem
L650[06:31:23] <Ar​iri> Ugh.
L651[06:31:26] <The_St​argazer> ...how
L652[06:31:28] <The_St​argazer> and why
L653[06:31:38] <The_St​argazer> you doing CLI partitioning?
L654[06:31:42] <The_St​argazer> with fdisk or something?
L655[06:31:53] <Ar​iri> It didnt like my previous one, and gparted couldnt load because of another damn error
L656[06:32:00] <Ar​iri> I had to reboot the installer as well
L657[06:32:20] <The_St​argazer> are you sure you're not just in an xkcd comic?
L658[06:32:47] <Blue_595> books on amazon explaining to "cure autism by drinking bleach" yeah no fucking wonder they were taken down
L659[06:32:52] <Ar​iri> God sometimes I think I am with the amount of digital running around I do somedays.
L660[06:33:11] <The_St​argazer> hey, at least you aren't trapped in the ocean with sharks around!
L661[06:33:12] <Blue_595> bruh i am xkcd
L662[06:33:27] <The_St​argazer> not yet, atleast.
L663[06:34:08] <Ar​iri> Zzz...
L664[06:35:37] <Blue_595> so if you have a wall of server racks
L665[06:35:46] <Blue_595> one self-destructor destroys all of it? (Computronics)
L666[06:36:05] <Blue_595> but as soon as theres just a cable between the 2 racks it doesnt work anymore
L667[06:36:47] <The_St​argazer> why would it destroy all of them?
L668[06:36:58] <The_St​argazer> aren't racks isolated from others?
L669[06:37:06] <The_St​argazer> or is that just for network messages
L670[06:39:02] <Blue_595> if you have a bunch of racks next to eachother
L671[06:39:09] <Blue_595> directly next to eachother
L672[06:39:22] <Blue_595> and a self detstructing module in one
L673[06:39:27] <Blue_595> does it remove the contents from all of them
L674[06:39:36] <The_St​argazer> i have no clue
L675[06:39:49] <Blue_595> and if theyre only connected through a cable or relay or case or something, it doesnt go across?
L676[06:39:53] <The_St​argazer> but it shouldn't if it does
L677[06:40:16] <The_St​argazer> ...you do realize cables don't expose internal rack components, right? (I think?)
L678[06:40:32] <The_St​argazer> not actually sure, but i don't think they do
L679[06:40:52] <Blue_595> this is minecraft
L680[06:41:04] <Blue_595> things dont normally make sense that would make sense irl
L681[06:41:05] <Blue_595> and vice versa
L682[06:41:39] <The_St​argazer> yeah, but this is also O
L683[06:41:42] <The_St​argazer> er
L684[06:41:42] <The_St​argazer> OC
L685[06:42:04] <The_St​argazer> there's some degree of realism
L686[06:42:06] <Blue_595> today i woke up, watched tv for 2 hours, played minecraft for 90 minutes, passed out until 9:00 PM, ate 3 taco bell soft tacos, and now here i am
L687[06:42:54] <The_St​argazer> how did you pass out
L688[06:43:11] <Blue_595> thats one of the great mysteries in physics actually
L689[06:43:59] <Blue_595> again twitter @595Blue, bio just says "Some weirdo just putting up funny things"
L690[06:44:28] <Ar​iri> And we have a boot
L691[06:48:03] <Blue_595> in those 90 minutes of minecraft before i lost steam COMPLETELY FAILING TO REALIZE I COULD HAVE STARTED PLAYING SCRAP MECHANIC SINCE IT HAS A COMPLETELY NEW GAME MODE,
L692[06:48:15] <Blue_595> i designed a new redstone chip in Project Red Fabrication:
L693[06:48:27] <Blue_595> the BL2801 Integrated Mathematical Processor (IMP)
L694[06:48:46] <Blue_595> although i dont really like it and i want to change a few things:
L695[06:49:09] <Blue_595> 1. i want to be able to ignore input A altogether and set it to 0, before feeding it to the XOR gates
L696[06:49:18] <Blue_595> 2. i dont want the accumulator inside that chip anymore
L697[06:49:50] <Ar​iri> Screw this. Trying to update packages on a clean install results in conflicts that aren't even on the list.
L698[06:49:54] <Blue_595> 3. i want the output to be considered a 9-bit value, with the C flag being the extra bit
L699[06:50:03] <Blue_595> 4. i want different colors for the control signals
L700[06:50:44] <Blue_595> 5. im gonna make a Numeric Value Accumulator chip that works in conjunction with this one, acting as the Acc register and flags
L701[06:50:59] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> one session of ramming a ship out of orbit later http://tinyurl.com/y7techyg
L702[06:51:05] <Blue_595> 6. im gonna use a 32x32 die this time instead of a 32x32 die
L703[06:51:17] <The_St​argazer> Ariri: what distro is this
L704[06:51:41] <Blue_595> wait what game is that @The_Stargazer
L705[06:51:48] <Ar​iri> The user-friendly one, allegedly
L706[06:51:50] <The_St​argazer> >32x32 die instead of 32x32 die
L707[06:51:59] <Blue_595> yes another brain fart
L708[06:52:01] <The_St​argazer> Blue_595: no clue
L709[06:52:03] <Ar​iri> what
L710[06:52:03] <Blue_595> really good at this
L711[06:52:12] <Blue_595> i meant 32x32 instead of 16x32
L712[06:52:17] <The_St​argazer> ah
L713[06:52:32] <The_St​argazer> user-friendly one?
L714[06:52:34] <Blue_595> since im using a 32x32 chip might as well bring the accumulator back in
L715[06:52:45] <The_St​argazer> there are quite a few user-friendly linux distros
L716[06:52:50] <Blue_595> but with better bussing; the accumulator actually feeds back to input A now
L717[06:53:19] <Ar​iri> Im being satirical, because its being a pain in the ass atm.
L718[06:53:32] <Blue_595> wdym Ariri
L719[06:53:34] <The_St​argazer> ohhh
L720[06:53:38] <Blue_595> mint is user friendly
L721[06:53:43] <Blue_595> to install anyway
L722[06:53:52] <The_St​argazer> i mean
L723[06:53:58] <The_St​argazer> it's user-friendly after install too
L724[06:54:07] <Ar​iri> Manjaro.
L725[06:54:11] <The_St​argazer> and i would know because i used it for many years
L726[06:54:12] <Blue_595> the commands are the not-user-friendly part
L727[06:54:29] <Blue_595> you can use .deb files (as i had to do to get Minecraft since the .tgz option wasnt working)
L728[06:54:52] <The_St​argazer> Ariri: why not pure Arch?
L729[06:54:56] <Ar​iri> I went the whole nine yards to try and fix a failing package update, only to have no solve there, then fell back to cli for usage, which promptly failed too,
L730[06:55:03] <Izaya> lmao less stable arch
L731[06:55:05] <Izaya> nice
L732[06:55:18] <Blue_595> gonna figure out the pinout and block diagram of this new chip
L733[06:55:40] <Blue_595> for sure gonna have a FLAGS bus going to a single chip
L734[06:55:50] <Blue_595> (a single chip as input, all others as output)
L735[06:56:02] <Ar​iri> Because I dont know what happened to my arch installation and I didn't want to install it
L736[06:57:00] <Blue_595> the whole modem thing i was talking about when i joined
L737[06:57:40] <Blue_595> built "around" the TCM3105 but mostly built around an (also custom) 6502 computer
L738[06:58:00] <Blue_595> i picked 1200 baud because thats the fastest that chip can handle
L739[06:58:12] <Blue_595> i also have an entirely custom protocol
L740[07:06:09] <Blue_595> rip Blue_595
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L747[08:13:02] <Saghetti> ~markov 20kdc
L748[08:13:03] <ocdoc> Please wait ...
L749[08:13:24] <ocdoc> Nickname does not exist
L750[08:13:38] <Saghetti> ~markov t20kdc
L751[08:13:39] <ocdoc> O​h, this has happened to me to explain it - not knowing what it wants to do with ilasm and ildasm, you can just put
L752[08:14:15] <Saghetti> thats one way of telling if a user exists
L753[08:14:25] <Saghetti> i guess it works
L754[08:17:03] <Saghetti> %tell t20kdc there's a partially reverse engineered version of mc4k at github.com/ferdinandschober/Minecraft_4k_reverse_engineering
L755[08:17:03] <MichiBot> Saghetti: t20kdc will be notified of this message when next seen.
L756[08:17:59] <Saghetti> %tell t20kdc unfortunately, the graphics code is still undeciphered
L757[08:17:59] <MichiBot> Saghetti: t20kdc will be notified of this message when next seen.
L758[08:20:45] <Saghetti> also found a really cool version of smalltalk-80
L759[08:21:26] <Saghetti> rochus-keller/Smalltalk
L760[08:22:17] <Saghetti> ~markov saghetti
L761[08:22:17] <ocdoc> Nickname does not exist
L762[08:22:35] <Saghetti> ~markov Saghetti
L763[08:22:36] <ocdoc> man i didn't think about it, was a ghosty blurry mess around with 2kb of SRAM is irc
L764[08:23:14] <Saghetti> markov is the best command
L765[08:23:36] <Saghetti> i mean ts up there with
L766[08:23:54] <Saghetti> its up there with sip
L767[08:24:10] <Saghetti> %down water
L768[08:24:10] <MichiBot> You drink some water. Wait... this isn't water... it's A Slimy Aluminium potion!
L769[08:25:02] <Saghetti> %absorvb slimy aluminium potion
L770[08:25:30] <Saghetti> im outta here for now i guess
L771[08:25:33] <Izaya> https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/songs/song61.ogg
L772[08:25:47] <Saghetti> ooh
L773[08:26:13] <Izaya> >openbsd parody of Summer of '69
L774[08:26:40] <Saghetti> sad that icant listen to it rn
L775[08:26:46] <Izaya> pack it in boys
L776[08:26:48] <Izaya> we've hit the peak already
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L780[08:42:01] <Blue_595> ah yes, good old XÆA-12 Musk
L781[08:42:04] <Blue_595> seriously wtf
L782[08:43:38] <Ar​iri> He lives in California, and it's illegal here to name your child something like that, so whatever. I like the name anyways, the SR-71 is a marvelous plane.
L783[08:46:51] <Izaya> hm, an interesting idea would be parsing checkArg statements to determine input types for functions
L784[08:46:55] <Blue_595> better be illegal, hes using the Æ
L785[08:47:17] <Blue_595> im probably gonna start pronouncing it Zaya-12
L786[08:50:44] <Blue_595> (X -> Z similar to the word xylophone) (assuming the Æ makes the long I sound)
L787[08:52:42] <Blue_595> [Switch topic to bank 2]
L788[08:52:45] <Blue_595> about that modem
L789[08:53:14] <Blue_595> for the 5.1v TVS diode on the output of the DAA card
L790[08:53:32] <Blue_595> should i use an actual TVS diode or 2 back-to-back zener diodes?
L791[08:53:47] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/6e461093185040a0e4c4afe9441a29e9af1c3a57810104f2349570712f781a43.png
L792[08:56:50] <Blue_595> this guy definitely sounds america
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L794[09:04:46] <Blue_595> wb
L795[09:16:22] <Blue_595> imagine keeping your sons college fund
L796[09:16:27] <Blue_595> this post was made by gaming pc gang
L797[09:16:41] <Z​ef> Oh god
L798[09:19:20] <ThePi​Guy24> Imagine having money
L799[09:19:20] <ThePi​Guy24> This post was made by college gang
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L801[09:25:19] <IdotMaster1> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER IdotMaster1 vdatrrqzbbkp
L802[09:25:26] <IdotMaster1> k
L803[09:26:03] <IdotMaster1> shit
L804[09:26:15] <Izaya> gonna wanna change the password
L805[09:26:25] <IdotMaster1> HOW
L806[09:26:27] <IdotMaster1> PLZ
L807[09:26:30] <IdotMaster1> IBEG
L808[09:26:36] <IdotMaster1> SHIT
L809[09:26:40] <Izaya> /msg nickserv help
L810[09:27:20] <IdotMaster1> WHICH ONE
L811[09:27:22] <IdotMaster1> SHIT
L812[09:27:44] <Izaya> /msg nickserv help
L813[09:27:50] <Izaya> uh
L814[09:27:52] <Izaya> fuck
L815[09:27:54] <Izaya> was trying to execute it
L816[09:28:14] <IdotMaster1> BUT THERE IS ATHER COOMADCWCFWE
L817[09:28:32] <Izaya> setpass by the look
L818[09:30:02] <IdotMaster1> what key
L819[09:30:05] <IdotMaster1> it says key
L820[09:30:57] <fingercomp> IdotMaster1: don't worry about that, the crypy thing at the end is not a password and is not dervied from it
L821[09:31:02] <fingercomp> it's random
L822[09:31:16] <Izaya> presumably the current one
L823[09:31:27] <IdotMaster1> i know but how do i verify my account now
L824[09:31:38] <Blue_595> modem status update
L825[09:31:46] <IdotMaster1> what
L826[09:31:55] <Blue_595> use /msg nickserv set password <newpass>
L827[09:32:15] <fingercomp> IdotMaster1: just execute the command again and make sure to have no spaces in the beginning
L828[09:32:18] <Blue_595> thats how i made mine infinitely more confusing and taking a full 15 seconds to type in every time i turn on Weechat
L829[09:32:31] <IdotMaster1> YES
L830[09:32:31] <Blue_595> also youre missing an "i" from your name :D
L831[09:32:40] <IdotMaster1> no
L832[09:32:41] <Izaya> maybe that's the joke
L833[09:33:01] <fingercomp> Izaya: https://github.com/atheme/atheme/blob/27db1eb69a1f9d8fbf40321356079d48087ac914/modules/nickserv/register.c#L181
L834[09:33:11] <IdotMaster1> now how do i verify
L835[09:33:14] <Blue_595> modem status update: working on the DAA board (gonna be a similar form factor to Julian Ilett's vocoder)
L836[09:33:50] <IdotMaster1> thank you
L837[09:34:11] <IdotMaster1> to the people that helped me
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L843[09:38:26] <Izaya> ayy
L844[09:38:33] <Izaya> $22 for the surge 2
L845[09:38:36] <Izaya> I can afford that this week
L846[09:39:16] <IdotM​aster1> can you see thia
L847[09:39:21] <IdotM​aster1> on irc
L848[09:39:25] <Izaya> yup
L849[09:39:30] <IdotM​aster1> oke
L850[09:41:05] <Blue_595> poke
L851[09:41:20] <Blue_595> 59458
L852[09:41:31] <Blue_595> 62
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L854[09:43:59] *** Blue_595 is now known as S|h|a|w|n
L855[09:44:04] <S|h|a|w|n> yeah
L856[09:44:30] <Izaya> Knew a guy called Shawn once.
L857[09:44:35] <Izaya> Crashed his bike running from the cops.
L858[09:44:47] <Izaya> Not the smartest individual in history.
L859[09:44:55] <S|h|a|w|n> crashed my computer once running away from a windows update
L860[09:45:07] <Izaya> understandable
L861[09:45:17] <ThePi​Guy24> Izaya: sounds like a pretty shawn thing to do
L862[09:45:28] <S|h|a|w|n> i saw this guy leave
L863[09:45:32] <S|h|a|w|n> saw the chance
L864[09:45:42] <S|h|a|w|n> nick wasnt registered and hell be P|i|s|s|e|d
L865[09:46:24] <Izaya> This place is publically logged, and that's against the esper TOS or rules or something
L866[09:46:47] <S|h|a|w|n> happened all the time on #openredstone
L867[09:47:00] <S|h|a|w|n> at least until some idiot named @nickster added +m and +r
L868[09:48:36] <S|h|a|w|n> it is now a +mnrt channel
L869[09:48:43] <S|h|a|w|n> might as well add a fucking +j 5:30
L870[09:48:55] <Kristo​pher38> +rtfm channel
L871[09:49:06] <S|h|a|w|n> im serious though
L872[09:49:15] <S|h|a|w|n> @ and + users only (m)
L873[09:49:23] <S|h|a|w|n> no messages outside (n)
L874[09:49:28] <S|h|a|w|n> nickserv users only (r)
L875[09:49:34] <S|h|a|w|n> topic protected (t)
L876[09:52:47] <S|h|a|w|n> just gonna sit here now
L877[10:04:25] <S|h|a|w|n> spleen time
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L883[10:10:00] <Blue_595> im not a shawn i cant keep that name
L884[10:10:26] <Blue_595> but routing update: nearly finished with the world-side
L885[10:10:50] <Blue_595> (the side of the transformer, relay, and optocoupler that goes towards the rest of the fucking planet)
L886[10:15:50] <Blue_595> i take this as a sign of defeat for some reason: i had to add a via
L887[10:20:44] <Blue_595> left room for a sizeable expansion module
L888[10:20:59] <Blue_595> who knows maybe you want to get a bit of power from the phone line
L889[10:21:29] <Blue_595> maybe you want the DTMF generator to be on the outside section
L890[10:23:11] <Blue_595> i dont know why you would want that but sure
L891[10:26:28] <Blue_595> the expansion board is bigger and now takes up half the main board
L892[10:38:33] <Blue_595> schematic is now finished
L893[10:38:40] <Blue_595> gonna make it look cooler
L894[10:42:27] <Blue_595> this is called Project Markus and i would like a decent logo/brand picture/whatever to put on each board
L895[11:06:00] <Blue_595> the board is done
L896[11:07:33] <Blue_595> i just realized
L897[11:07:37] <Blue_595> there are a lot of diodes
L898[11:07:46] <Blue_595> 11
L899[11:18:07] <Blue_595> TIL when using JLCPCB and putting a board on your order list but not actually ordering it for a month, it disables that order, but gives you the ability to reorder
L900[11:18:18] <Blue_595> i should try that with Angry_Salmon
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L904[11:57:28] <etc> SHET
L905[11:58:02] <etc> somebody has the coffin dance lua file using computer.beep in different pitches
L906[11:58:04] <etc> ?
L907[11:58:52] <etc> exit
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L909[12:00:17] <t20kdc> ...Wha?
L910[12:02:14] <Inari> Just a bored someone
L911[12:02:18] <Inari> %splash t20kdc
L912[12:02:19] <MichiBot> You fling a salty blue potion (New!) that splashes onto t20kdc. t20kdc thinks they're being chased by an imaginary snake until they see a unicorn
L913[12:02:29] <t20kdc> Whyyyyyyyy!
L914[12:04:41] <Inari> Every game has a free Prologu enow
L915[12:05:13] <t20kdc> ...is this prologue the one where Inari throws a potion at the player?
L916[12:05:20] <Inari> yes
L917[12:11:15] <The_St​argazer> %tonk
L918[12:11:15] <MichiBot> I'm sorry The_Stargazer, you were not able to beat The_Stargazer's record of 7 hours, 56 minutes and 45 seconds this time. 6 hours, 50 minutes and 50 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 5 minutes and 54 seconds!
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L924[13:06:20] <Blue_595> the first 7 minutes of me using this computer
L925[13:06:30] <Blue_595> is always just sitting there with task manager open
L926[13:06:40] <Blue_595> waiting for disk usage to drop below 20%
L927[13:20:08] <Izaya> Windows 10?
L928[13:23:47] <Izaya> https://media.mas.to/masto-public/media_attachments/files/003/575/456/original/f2a71c5a1a334672.png
L929[13:48:44] <Kristo​pher38> neat http://tinyurl.com/ycr4zg5e
L930[13:48:54] <Kristo​pher38> visualization of motion sensor events
L931[13:51:25] <Izaya> I had a thing along those lines for tracking invisible players.
L932[13:53:26] <Kristo​pher38> I looked at the source for motion sensor, iirc it doesn't report events for invisible entities anymore (did it?)
L933[13:54:00] <Izaya> OpenSecurity player detector
L934[13:55:00] <Kristo​pher38> oh I see
L935[13:58:03] <Kristo​pher38> maybe I should make a tablet that would render ores locations with openglasses on the fly as the user is moving
L936[14:02:48] <Kristo​pher38> I've already got all the stuff required for it
L937[14:03:58] <MichiBot> Timed ban of PressALTandF4 Expired. Placed by: Forecaster
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L939[14:10:12] <Kristo​pher38> oh turns out motion sensor isn't perfect
L940[14:10:59] <Kristo​pher38> sometimes it doesn't register entities in rugged terrain
L941[14:11:15] <Kristo​pher38> even if there's a direct line of sigt
L942[14:11:18] <Kristo​pher38> even if there's a direct line of sight [Edited]
L943[14:12:17] <Kristo​pher38> oh maybe I know why, it registers only if the "feet" of the entity are visible
L944[14:12:40] <Kristo​pher38> should this be considered a bug :GWchadThonkery:
L945[14:14:47] <Blue_595> Izaya: i was focused on minecraft for a while which is why im so late
L946[14:14:54] <Blue_595> but yeah windows 10
L947[14:15:00] <Izaya> mmh
L948[14:16:03] <Blue_595> Kristopher38: go ahead and do that ore glasses thing
L949[14:16:24] <Kristo​pher38> hmm, alright let's see
L950[14:17:11] <Blue_595> i wish project red schematics had special behaviors in item frames, and worked a bit like maps
L951[14:17:44] <Kristo​pher38> tablets have their own screen? :GWchadThonkery:
L952[14:17:45] <Blue_595> well ill be damned they already do that
L953[14:17:49] <Blue_595> also yes
L954[14:21:18] <Kristo​pher38> oh right, I forgot to put in the gpu 🤦‍♂️
L955[14:21:31] <DaCompu​terNerd> I was gonna do an OpenGlasses ore detecting thing but got distracted
L956[14:22:02] <Izaya> at some point idea: including line numbers in the function documentation metadata
L957[14:22:16] <Izaya> so you can jump to function definitions in your editor
L958[14:22:51] <Kristo​pher38> aand I forgot to change the cpu arch again
L959[14:25:40] <Blue_595> right now idea: adding line numbers in the OC editor
L960[14:25:53] <Izaya> already done idea: line numbers in ced vi
L961[14:26:00] <Blue_595> you have a line indicator but
L962[14:26:08] <Izaya> I tried doing relative line numbers but it turns out I'm too smart
L963[14:26:23] <Izaya> and in avoiding redrawing every line every time
L964[14:26:32] <Izaya> I made relative line numbers difficult to implement
L965[14:27:38] <Blue_595> you know what lets pretend the BL2801 never existed
L966[14:28:35] <Blue_595> @ben_mkiv OpenPrinter suggestion: add a stapler used in the crafting table to make page bundles
L967[14:29:53] <Blue_595> the 4x7 library buildings in 1.12.2 fill up pretty fast with computer hardware
L968[14:31:11] <Blue_595> apparently you can use the printer as a photocopier, but it works best when you have a print server set up
L969[14:31:38] <Blue_595> so you just send it a PRINT command, a COPIES value, and a file
L970[14:31:48] <Blue_595> or you send it a COPY command and a COPIES value
L971[14:31:56] <Blue_595> or a SCAN command and it returns a file
L972[14:32:04] <Blue_595> fuck it im making a print server
L973[14:32:49] <Blue_595> also apparently Michi made this mod
L974[14:32:51] * Blue_595 shrugs
L975[14:34:08] <Blue_595> if you call writeln() with a \n in there, does it know and insert a new line?
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L977[14:36:03] <Blue_595> it just prints a stamp with the letters LF
L978[14:36:09] <Blue_595> so i need to do that
L979[14:37:13] <Blue_595> for now well assume its using a simple protocol where it just waits for its hostname (PrintServ) and accepts all commands
L980[14:38:09] <Blue_595> all messages are broadcast as well so...
L981[14:38:26] <Blue_595> dont print any sensitive documents with this thing
L982[14:39:38] <Blue_595> ok so bug with putting a Project Red blueprint in an item frame
L983[14:39:43] <Blue_595> you can see it through walls
L984[14:40:12] <Blue_595> "its not a bug its a feature" - microsoft
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L986[14:44:11] <Blue_595> nvm ben was involved in the printer mod
L987[14:44:16] <Blue_595> wb Izaya
L988[14:50:53] <ben_mkiv> Blue_595, i'll most likely only make bugfixes in the mods
L989[14:50:56] <ben_mkiv> 1.12.2 is dead
L990[14:51:05] <Blue_595> oh
L991[14:53:55] <B​ob> 1.12.2 still has mods released
L992[14:54:10] <ben_mkiv> so does 1.7.10 probably
L993[14:55:20] <ben_mkiv> also i haven't played minecraft in a year, so my personal interest is also pretty low
L994[14:59:50] <Blue_595> i like how the tier 1 RAM stick is j u s t enough for OpenOS to boot
L995[14:59:57] <Blue_595> but not really enough to do much of anything
L996[15:01:02] <Blue_595> at one point i said computer.getDeviceInfo() was undocumented
L997[15:01:12] <Blue_595> it either was, or im an idiot, because its documented now
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L1000[15:03:04] <Kristo​pher38> ah shit, the player position reported in the event is relative
L1001[15:04:16] <ben_mkiv|afk> which event?
L1002[15:04:51] <B​ob> yeah, it is
L1003[15:04:54] <B​ob> all is relative
L1004[15:04:59] <B​ob> motion sensor probably
L1005[15:05:15] <Blue_595> if you want absolute position
L1006[15:05:25] <Blue_595> you must specify the xyz position of the sensor
L1007[15:06:25] <Kristo​pher38> ben_mkiv|afk: your mod, incidentally, openglasses 2
L1008[15:06:43] <ben_mkiv|afk> yea, i've fixed an error few days ago related to this
L1009[15:06:55] <ben_mkiv|afk> do you have enabled absolute position in the openglasses config?
L1010[15:07:03] <Kristo​pher38> what was the error?
L1011[15:07:20] <Kristo​pher38> Yeah, I've got it enabled and I believe I set it in the code as well
L1012[15:07:23] <ben_mkiv|afk> that it didnt report absolute coords if you have absolute position enabled in the config
L1013[15:07:42] <Blue_595> [Updating Scrap Mechanic...]
L1014[15:07:50] <ben_mkiv|afk> https://ci.pc-logix.com/job/OCGlasses/57/artifact/build/libs/OpenGlasses-MC1.12.2-2.2-57.jar
L1015[15:07:51] <B​ob> http://tinyurl.com/ya2nzpxz
L1016[15:07:53] <B​ob> time to wire that up
L1017[15:07:56] <ben_mkiv|afk> that mod version has the fix
L1018[15:08:15] <Kristo​pher38> thanks, I'll update
L1019[15:08:16] <ben_mkiv|afk> so you get absolute event coords when absolute widget positioning is enabled
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L1021[15:10:01] <Kristo​pher38> does this also work that way with BLOCKPOSITIONX, BLOCKPOSITIONY, BLOCKPOSITIONZ for INTERACTWORLDBLOCK_LEFT/RIGHT events?
L1022[15:10:11] <Kristo​pher38> are they now absolute if absolute rendering is enabled?
L1023[15:10:30] <Kristo​pher38> wait they might've been to begin with
L1024[15:10:41] <ben_mkiv|afk> yea, thought that what you was talking baout
L1025[15:10:43] <ben_mkiv|afk> about*
L1026[15:10:56] <Kristo​pher38> wait, they weren't
L1027[15:11:21] <Kristo​pher38> nvm I'm just causing confusion
L1028[15:11:33] <Kristo​pher38> I was talking about PLAYERPOSITIONX, PLAYERPOSITIONY, PLAYERPOSITIONZ before
L1029[15:12:04] <ben_mkiv|afk> all coords in the events should be absolute
L1030[15:12:10] <ben_mkiv|afk> so player position and block position
L1031[15:12:22] <Kristo​pher38> alright I updated and it does work! thanks
L1032[15:17:55] <Blue_595|afk> [Loading Scrap Mechanic...]
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L1034[15:23:19] <Inari> absolute is silly
L1035[15:23:22] <Inari> Should be relative
L1036[15:23:42] <Amanda> it can be either
L1037[15:24:00] <Inari> it should be only relative :D
L1038[15:24:10] <Amanda> %bite Inari
L1039[15:24:10] <MichiBot> Ama​nda is biting In​ari for 1d6 => 5 damage!
L1040[15:24:15] <Inari> Thats the OC spirit
L1041[15:24:26] <Inari> %splash Amanda
L1042[15:24:27] <MichiBot> You fling a muddy unobtanium potion (New!) that splashes onto Amanda. Amanda's feet tingle briefly.
L1043[15:24:43] * Amanda lifts her fore-paw to look at it, tilts her head
L1044[15:24:49] <Kristo​pher38> relative only would be really limiting
L1045[15:25:14] <Inari> I mean, yes, thats the point
L1046[15:25:21] <Kristo​pher38> you couldn't reasonably have glasses cards inside anything that's moving, i.e. robots, drones and tablets
L1047[15:25:45] <Kristo​pher38> and display something usable in the world
L1048[15:26:02] <Inari> %sip
L1049[15:26:03] <MichiBot> You drink a cloudy cerulium potion (New!). The potion bottle insults Inari's haircut.
L1050[15:26:07] <ben_mkiv|afk> it defaults to relative
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L1052[15:26:28] <Inari> %fling the potion bottle angrily at Amanda
L1053[15:26:28] <MichiBot> In​ari flings the potion bottle angrily in a random direction. It hits Ama​nda right where the last item hit. They take 1d4 => 1 damage!
L1054[15:26:29] <ben_mkiv|afk> i don't like to limit users for no reason
L1055[15:26:46] <ben_mkiv|afk> lets not talk about experience points required for upgrades... xD
L1056[15:26:46] <Lizzy> %sip
L1057[15:26:47] <MichiBot> You drink a light white potion (New!). 2 nearby pebbles suddenly shift slightly in Lizzy's direction.
L1058[15:27:06] <Inari> Ah, a weight gain potion
L1059[15:32:21] <Ocawes​ome101> Blue_595|afk: yeah, I added docs for it awhile back
L1060[15:34:21] <Kristo​pher38> ben_mkiv|afk: it would be nice if I could edit the widget limit in the config, sometimes I just need more than 255 widgets, for debugging purposes
L1061[15:36:11] * Izaya deems The Surge 2: breddy gud
L1062[15:36:43] <ben_mkiv|afk> yea someone suggested that already
L1063[15:37:16] <Izaya> ~w component
L1064[15:37:16] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component
L1065[15:37:22] <ben_mkiv|afk> let me add it quick
L1066[15:37:30] <Kristo​pher38> I mean, I hacked my own solution by building OBJ string so I could display over 100k cubes if I needed to :D http://tinyurl.com/ybaod39q
L1067[15:37:50] <Kristo​pher38> but doing this with cube api would be so much easier
L1068[15:37:53] <ben_mkiv|afk> xD
L1069[15:37:56] <ben_mkiv|afk> nice
L1070[15:38:11] <ben_mkiv|afk> idk how well the syncing performs then
L1071[15:38:14] <ben_mkiv|afk> specially in multiplayer
L1072[15:38:22] <ben_mkiv|afk> thats why i just added a limit
L1073[15:38:52] <Kristo​pher38> oh I see
L1074[15:38:56] <ben_mkiv|afk> someone already managed to have a higher payload than allowed for network packages
L1075[15:39:23] * Amanda displays the complete works of Shakespear on every player's screen
L1076[15:40:23] <Izaya> Does component.doc work in ocvm?
L1077[15:40:35] <Amanda> I don't think so?
L1078[15:40:39] <Izaya> hm
L1079[15:40:49] <Izaya> that hampers my next documentation searcher
L1080[15:40:56] <Kristo​pher38> http://tinyurl.com/ybl5rc2z
L1081[15:41:02] <Kristo​pher38> http://tinyurl.com/y7cpmodp
L1082[15:41:24] <B​ob> ew
L1083[15:41:24] <Izaya> How does that work? Geolyzer?
L1084[15:41:43] <Kristo​pher38> yeah, geolyzer + openglasses
L1085[15:42:02] <Izaya> neat
L1086[15:42:40] <Kristo​pher38> when you want to rescan around you, you just right click a surface
L1087[15:43:30] <Amanda> Izaya: oh, there's code for it, it just isn't used in mostof the components it seems?
L1088[15:43:41] <Izaya> yeah the function works
L1089[15:43:44] <Izaya> it just didn't output anything
L1090[15:44:44] <ben_mkiv|afk> @Kristopher38 https://ci.pc-logix.com/job/OCGlasses/58/artifact/build/libs/OpenGlasses-MC1.12.2-2.2-58.jar
L1091[15:44:46] <Kristo​pher38> though it has a long delay, geolyzer scans are component-call hungry
L1092[15:44:48] <Amanda> Looks like components are expected to pass a third argument to "add" for documenting the functions.
L1093[15:44:58] <ben_mkiv|afk> haven't tested it, but that should work xD
L1094[15:45:05] <ben_mkiv|afk> added a config entry for the widget limit
L1095[15:45:12] <Kristo​pher38> ben_mkiv|afk: alright, what the config entry looks like
L1096[15:45:34] <Izaya> IC2 drill + drone
L1097[15:45:50] <Izaya> have it do surveys of each layer
L1098[15:46:00] <Izaya> or robot and drone I guess
L1099[15:46:05] <Izaya> and it can nerdpole its way up
L1100[15:46:10] <Izaya> ~w geolyzer
L1101[15:46:10] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:geolyzer
L1102[15:46:57] <ben_mkiv|afk> ingame press escape, then go to mod config/list however its named
L1103[15:47:05] <ben_mkiv|afk> then select openglasses, and you can configure it there
L1104[15:47:29] <ben_mkiv|afk> keyname should be general.widgetlimit or something like that
L1105[15:49:21] <Kristo​pher38> ben_mkiv|afk: I haven't installed that 58 build yet, but something broke and I got "payload may not be larger than 32K bytes"
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L1107[15:49:31] <AshleighTheCutie> henlo
L1108[15:49:48] <B​ob> henlo
L1109[15:50:05] <ben_mkiv|afk> did you load your cubetest?
L1110[15:50:16] <AshleighTheCutie> huh?
L1111[15:50:59] <Kristo​pher38> I think it's a bug on OC side, got out of memory error just before that happened
L1112[15:51:47] <ben_mkiv|afk> if you have any log that would help
L1113[15:52:12] <AshleighTheCutie> ah, i missed stuff
L1114[15:55:18] <Kristo​pher38> eh, the stack traceback doesn't give you much relevant info https://pastebin.com/N13F0z9i
L1115[15:57:09] <ben_mkiv|afk> if you cant load the world, drop your player.dat in here https://irath96.github.io/webNBT/
L1116[15:57:16] <ben_mkiv|afk> and remove the glasses from your inventory
L1117[15:57:46] <Kristo​pher38> nah, it was problem with a tablet
L1118[15:57:57] <Kristo​pher38> I guess OC tried to unpersist the state of it
L1119[15:58:04] <Kristo​pher38> and it borked
L1120[15:58:29] <Kristo​pher38> I managed to removed the tablet right after the world started loading, so it didn't happen
L1121[15:58:47] <Kristo​pher38> to remove*
L1122[15:59:20] <ben_mkiv|afk> hmmm, removing the tablet also doesnt sync to the glasses, so it still could be both
L1123[15:59:31] <ben_mkiv|afk> the other user that reported the payload issue also used a tablet
L1124[16:00:07] <Kristo​pher38> there was a discussion here lately about tablets and how they're sort of hacky and don't work as well as other parts of OC
L1125[16:01:09] <ben_mkiv|afk> but im still curious, imho the only way to reach 32kb in a openglasses packet would be to send 32kb of object data
L1126[16:01:17] <ben_mkiv|afk> as each widget is synced in its own packet
L1127[16:01:40] <Amanda> Izaya: I'm about to see if adding docs is as easy as I think, if so I'll post a MR with filesystem/eeprom documented, but I'm out of spoons for it now, but it's literally just copy-pasting
L1128[16:02:22] <ben_mkiv|afk> are you talking about docs for a minecraft mod?
L1129[16:02:31] <Izaya> shiny
L1130[16:02:35] <Izaya> ben_mkiv|afk: ocvm
L1131[16:05:09] <Amanda> payonel, Izaya: https://github.com/payonel/ocvm/pull/38
L1132[16:05:25] <Kristo​pher38> ben_mkiv|afk: I upped the widget limit, and the glasses sort of correctly report the amount ("using 400/255 widgets"), but they disappear after displaying more than 255
L1133[16:05:35] <Amanda> Izaya: It's literally just copy-pasting the doc attribute from the @Callback annotation in the scala source into a third argument to ad
L1134[16:05:44] <Amanda> add*
L1135[16:05:52] <ben_mkiv|afk> did you add more database upgrades?
L1136[16:06:00] <ben_mkiv|afk> to the glasses
L1137[16:06:09] <Kristo​pher38> no, am I supposed to?
L1138[16:06:13] <ben_mkiv|afk> yes
L1139[16:06:25] <Kristo​pher38> alright, let's see
L1140[16:06:31] <ben_mkiv|afk> until the last number is higher than the first
L1141[16:06:57] <Izaya> Amanda: hell yeah
L1142[16:07:15] <Amanda> someone else can do screen/gpu if they want, I'm out of ADHD focus for that. :P
L1143[16:07:47] <Izaya> :p
L1144[16:08:01] <Kristo​pher38> wait, how am I supposed to add those upgrades
L1145[16:08:07] <Kristo​pher38> I only played around in creative :P
L1146[16:08:21] <ben_mkiv|afk> pick opencomputers tier3 database upgrades
L1147[16:08:25] <Amanda> @Kristopher38 anvil. glasses on the left, upgrade on the right
L1148[16:08:28] <ben_mkiv|afk> and add them on an anvil, like enchanting
L1149[16:08:50] <Kristo​pher38> that's what I'm trying, it doesn't let me upgrade it
L1150[16:09:28] <ben_mkiv|afk> let me test myself what i did there
L1151[16:09:57] <Kristo​pher38> yeah, there's probably a hardcoded limit somewhere else
L1152[16:10:12] <Kristo​pher38> If i take plain glasses without upgrades it only lets me upgrade up to 255
L1153[16:11:11] <Kristo​pher38> here maybe? https://github.com/Starchasers/OCGlasses/blob/5c7f2fb40cf476cea87b9fbd74b1c0585e04aa3d/src/main/java/com/bymarcin/openglasses/OpenGlasses.java#L81
L1154[16:11:53] <ben_mkiv|afk> nope, that should be overriden by https://github.com/Starchasers/OCGlasses/blob/5c7f2fb40cf476cea87b9fbd74b1c0585e04aa3d/src/main/java/com/bymarcin/openglasses/OpenGlasses.java#L188
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L1156[16:13:50] <Kristo​pher38> you're doing math.min here https://github.com/Starchasers/OCGlasses/blob/5c7f2fb40cf476cea87b9fbd74b1c0585e04aa3d/src/main/java/com/bymarcin/openglasses/item/upgrades/UpgradeDatabase1.java#L19
L1157[16:13:51] <ben_mkiv> yea its not working -.-
L1158[16:13:53] <ben_mkiv> oh
L1159[16:14:12] <ben_mkiv> you didnt restart minecraft after changing the setting, did you?
L1160[16:14:19] <Kristo​pher38> I didn't
L1161[16:14:24] <Kristo​pher38> should I? :D
L1162[16:14:31] <ben_mkiv> yea my fault
L1163[16:14:42] <ben_mkiv> the setting only gets loaded on gamestart
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L1165[16:16:42] <Kristo​pher38> there's another bug, I tested it, you don't save that setting anywhere, don't you?
L1166[16:16:52] <Kristo​pher38> cause it get overriden to 255 on startup
L1167[16:16:56] <Kristo​pher38> gets*
L1168[16:17:33] <ben_mkiv> fml
L1169[16:17:38] <ben_mkiv> sorry for wasting your time -.-
L1170[16:17:56] <Kristo​pher38> nah no problem really
L1171[16:18:20] <ben_mkiv> well it should save actually
L1172[16:18:31] <Kristo​pher38> after all I'm one of the people that want this feature, so I'm fine with helping with it :D
L1173[16:18:39] <Kristo​pher38> those*
L1174[16:28:06] <ben_mkiv> actually i have no idea why it wont save it, but you can edit the openglasses.cfg by hand and change the value, then it works fine
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L1176[16:33:41] <Kristo​pher38> yeah, now they don't disappear anymore
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L1178[16:35:04] <Kristo​pher38> and I can hammer in more database upgrades
L1179[16:39:50] <ben_mkiv> cant even debug the config stuff in dev environment -.-
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L1181[16:42:56] <DEMONIT​IZED BOI> This still makes me laugh http://tinyurl.com/y7dct96k
L1182[16:44:17] <ben_mkiv> i prefer that one https://github.com/CoFH/CoFHLib/blob/master/README.md
L1183[16:44:26] <ben_mkiv> no idea why marcin was for zlib license tho
L1184[16:44:52] <Kristo​pher38> Anyway, thank you for implementing this
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L1186[16:49:12] <ben_mkiv> for some reason any config change isnt recognized
L1187[16:49:23] <ben_mkiv> now im wondering if it ever did
L1188[17:02:45] <ben_mkiv> i wish i was as patient as i was 3 years ago...
L1189[17:04:18] <ben_mkiv> ohhh
L1190[17:04:24] <ben_mkiv> found the issue why it didnt save
L1191[17:05:45] <Amanda> insuffident cat scritchies!
L1192[17:06:00] <Amanda> clearly thta's what was wrong.
L1193[17:10:27] <ben_mkiv> and lack of catnip
L1194[17:11:43] <ben_​mkiv> @Kristopher38 if you want a working build, https://ci.pc-logix.com/job/OCGlasses/59/artifact/build/libs/OpenGlasses-MC1.12.2-2.2-59.jar
L1195[17:12:16] <ben_mkiv> also changing stuff doesnt require a restart anymore
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L1198[17:27:07] <AshleighTheTablet> hai
L1199[17:27:12] <Kristo​pher38> thanks!
L1200[17:27:27] <Ocawes​ome101> AshleighTheTablet: Monolith has command history now
L1201[17:27:35] <AshleighTheTablet> noice
L1202[17:27:42] <AshleighTheTablet> ill try it later
L1203[17:27:52] <Ocawes​ome101> it's literally built into the vt100 emulator because that was the easiest way to do it
L1204[17:27:58] <AshleighTheTablet> lol
L1205[17:28:17] <AshleighTheTablet> how many history entries?
L1206[17:28:33] <Ocawes​ome101> unlimited currently
L1207[17:28:42] <Ocawes​ome101> I'll probably limit it to 16 or 32 though
L1208[17:28:46] <ben_mkiv> INFINITY!!!!
L1209[17:28:47] <Ocawes​ome101> for memory reasons
L1210[17:29:20] <AshleighTheTablet> makes sense
L1211[17:29:38] <AshleighTheTablet> 16 even would be okay
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L1213[17:29:57] <AshleighTheTablet> hai Izaya
L1214[17:30:26] <Ocawes​ome101> Izaya: you just missed me mentioning vt100-level command history
L1215[17:47:33] <Kristo​pher38> also ben_mkiv: I was lying about being able to render 100k cubes, I must've calculated it wrong back then, it's more like 13k cubes
L1216[17:47:49] <Kristo​pher38> with 2 megs of ram
L1217[17:47:54] <Ocawes​ome101> not bad
L1218[17:48:25] <Sagh​etti> OCGL when
L1219[17:49:41] <Ocawes​ome101> when we get GPUs that aren't equivalent to something out of the 80s
L1220[17:49:52] <Ocawes​ome101> and/or bitmap displays
L1221[17:50:01] <AshleighTheTablet> CLI id the future
L1222[17:50:06] <Kristo​pher38> I could probably do a 3D animation displayed in openglasses at few frames per second
L1223[17:50:33] <Kristo​pher38> or hell, even a game of sorts
L1224[17:50:49] <AshleighTheTablet> VR in OC when
L1225[17:50:58] <AshleighTheTablet> AR actually
L1226[17:51:08] <Kristo​pher38> yeah
L1227[17:51:20] <AshleighTheTablet> id be down to try it
L1228[17:51:36] <AshleighTheTablet> just dont use creative components
L1229[17:52:06] <AshleighTheTablet> (the server peoples dont like it when I have to use creative components)
L1230[17:52:42] <Ocawes​ome101> y e s s s
L1231[17:52:47] <Ocawes​ome101> that'd be sick
L1232[17:52:56] <B​ob> creative OC items don't give advantage ? at least not to that extend
L1233[17:53:04] <B​ob> i doubt you need 2T3 hard drives in one PC
L1234[17:53:12] <B​ob> or more that 3 T3 component bus upgardes
L1235[17:53:27] <AshleighTheTablet> except creative tablets, MCUs
L1236[18:00:50] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> pfft
L1237[18:00:51] <ben_mkiv> well openglasses has "animation" support
L1238[18:00:56] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> who needs more than a T1 CPU in an MCU
L1239[18:00:59] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> (me)
L1240[18:01:12] <ben_mkiv> so you can do rotation and such without altering the vertex data
L1241[18:02:05] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i should work on OSSM
L1242[18:02:22] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so I can make SoCs that you can shove into things
L1243[18:02:28] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> like a sort of
L1244[18:02:40] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> SBC thing, which is like a MCU+
L1245[18:03:01] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> just more expensive to build
L1246[18:04:52] <AshleighTheTablet> yee
L1247[18:05:59] <Kristo​pher38> ben_mkiv: it does?
L1248[18:06:23] <Kristo​pher38> oh it's right there, addRotation
L1249[18:06:56] <ben_mkiv> translation and scale can also be animated
L1250[18:07:45] <AshleighTheTablet> im adding OpenGlasses to my ATM3 Remix server
L1251[18:07:45] <ben_mkiv> addRotation is for static rotation iirc
L1252[18:07:51] <ben_mkiv> https://github.com/Starchasers/OCGlasses/wiki/WidgetModifiers#animation
L1253[18:08:05] <ben_mkiv> you have to add an easing, which can be linear if you dont want smooth movement
L1254[18:08:31] <ben_mkiv> https://github.com/Starchasers/OCGlasses/wiki/Examples
L1255[18:08:42] <ben_mkiv> first example, last line shows how to add animation to some modifier
L1256[18:09:48] <Kristo​pher38> I'm more interested in static rotation tbh
L1257[18:10:53] <Kristo​pher38> so I can draw "lines", that is elongated cuboids rotated to have their "endpoints" be at some specified coordinates
L1258[18:12:44] <ben_mkiv> but you could also do that by drawing the vertices at the desired positions
L1259[18:13:04] <ben_mkiv> which reminds me of another bug -.-
L1260[18:13:16] <ben_mkiv> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444952371781697547/693069992760967188/Screenshot_from_2020-03-27_13-12-22.png
L1261[18:13:45] <ben_mkiv> https://pastebin.com/raw/mTHx5Pvb
L1262[18:13:49] <ben_mkiv> thats some simple path drawing
L1263[18:17:31] <Kristo​pher38> ooh nice, does it work with angled paths as well?
L1264[18:18:10] <ben_mkiv> yea sure
L1265[18:18:21] <ben_mkiv> its kinda like the wavefront object drawing, so any shape would work
L1266[18:18:59] <Kristo​pher38> I did this as a quick and hacky solution, it doesn't look so well as you can see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW1Z0uc0Shs
L1267[18:19:00] <MichiBot> Robociki tsp | length: 35s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 13 | by Kris38 | Published On 21/3/2020
L1268[18:19:41] <Kristo​pher38> didn't bother to do it properly as it was just for debugging purposes
L1269[18:20:05] <ben_mkiv> what does it show? how the robot would go for mining?
L1270[18:22:59] <Michiyo> Going to 3d print a 2x4 HDD array mount to sit on top of my server, and connect them with SATA extension cables..
L1271[18:23:01] <Michiyo> what could go wrong?
L1272[18:23:14] <Krae​tzin> In what case does `shell.execute` return `false`? I can see that an error is occuring but it still returns `true`
L1273[18:24:05] <Krae​tzin> The docs say the "first returned value is a boolean indicating success or error"
L1274[18:26:16] <ben_mkiv> wew, someone made a whole trainstation and uses openprinter to make tickets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8byccypmjN0
L1275[18:26:16] <MichiBot> Reusable Train Ticket System - MyRail #37 [Modded Minecraft 1.10.2] OpenPrinter | length: 33m 27s | Likes: 26 Dislikes: 0 Views: 659 | by nzHook | Published On 6/10/2019
L1276[18:26:22] <ben_mkiv> @Michiyo ^^
L1277[18:26:44] <Kristo​pher38> @payonel I see you're online, I found out today that motion sensor detects entities based on the visibility of their feet, so for example if I stand on a ledge above the robot so my feet aren't visible but the rest of my player model is, it doesn't register it, but if I move closer to the edge of the ledge it registers it
L1278[18:26:51] <Kristo​pher38> is this intended?
L1279[18:27:08] <ben_mkiv> actually smart to use transposers to check for token items to open a door
L1280[18:29:45] <Krae​tzin> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/edupawazevresults in:
L1281[18:29:46] <Krae​tzin> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/fewojeleqe
L1282[18:29:51] <Krae​tzin> Should that not return false?
L1283[18:33:53] <B​ob> it executed the command without errors ?
L1284[18:33:59] <B​ob> also globals
L1285[18:34:10] <Krae​tzin> Yeah that was in a lua prompt
L1286[18:34:22] <Krae​tzin> The same happens if I execute a script and purposefully make it error with bad input
L1287[18:36:13] <B​ob> the command is still passed eh ?
L1288[18:40:39] <Krae​tzin> Okay I'll screenshot: I have a robot accepting remote commands on the modem, and running essentially `shell.execute` on what it receives
L1289[18:40:51] <Krae​tzin> This is a successful command http://tinyurl.com/y7eddht3
L1290[18:41:08] <Krae​tzin> `act.lua` is a script in `/home/bin`
L1291[18:41:56] <Krae​tzin> This is a failure, invalid input http://tinyurl.com/ybb8tvrb
L1292[18:42:10] <Krae​tzin> You can see the script errors, but `shell.execute` still returns true
L1293[18:42:26] <Krae​tzin> I'm struggling to find a way to even make `shell.execute` return anything but true
L1294[18:43:10] <pay​onel> it's because /bin/sh.lua doesn't crash
L1295[18:43:14] <pay​onel> that's why it returns true 🙂
L1296[18:43:42] <pay​onel> i suppose it would be better to invoke sh directly..
L1297[18:43:47] <pay​onel> sec
L1298[18:53:28] <murlocking6> Does a computer consume energy for 'printing' information ?
L1299[18:53:48] <murlocking6> I want to make my code more fuel efficient.
L1300[18:55:11] <Ocawes​ome101> the more lit characters a screen displays the more energy it will consume
L1301[19:01:02] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/ybhx5u8p
L1302[19:01:27] <Ocawes​ome101> nice
L1303[19:01:32] <Sagh​etti> 512mb ram?
L1304[19:01:52] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 80MiB of memory usage
L1305[19:02:01] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> holy FUCK it feels good
L1306[19:02:04] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> and yes
L1307[19:02:06] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> 512mb
L1308[19:02:07] <Sagh​etti> hOW
L1309[19:02:10] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> do you have a problem?
L1310[19:02:18] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so
L1311[19:02:29] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> here's how i got only 80mib of ram usage
L1312[19:02:33] <ben_mkiv> that reminds me of my dual cpu p3 with raid1 western raptors
L1313[19:02:34] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> - don't have a ton of shit running
L1314[19:02:37] <ben_mkiv> that was a beast back then xD
L1315[19:02:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> - literally just don't
L1316[19:02:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> - icewm is comfy
L1317[19:04:58] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> anyways
L1318[19:05:13] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i need to add Haiku to the boot menu
L1319[19:06:26] <pay​onel> @Kraetzin
L1320[19:06:37] <pay​onel> i think i can safely make a change that would help that
L1321[19:06:51] <pay​onel> are you happy using dev builds?
L1322[19:07:15] <Krae​tzin> I'm happy to use them, but I play on a server where I won't be able to use them
L1323[19:08:06] <pay​onel> you can test my change in your individual openos installs if you need to
L1324[19:08:23] <Krae​tzin> Cool, that'd work 🙂
L1325[19:15:35] <B​ob> 👀
L1326[19:15:40] <pay​onel> @Kristopher38 give this a whirl
L1327[19:15:40] <pay​onel> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/commit/f82ccc5fc423b0ebd288d64cafdf7f9ba1c89329
L1328[19:18:11] <Kristo​pher38> pinged the wrong person
L1329[19:18:23] <Kristo​pher38> Incidentally my nick also starts with "Kr"
L1330[19:18:28] <pay​onel> oh sorry 🙂
L1331[19:18:34] <pay​onel> @Kraetzin *
L1332[19:18:45] <Kristo​pher38> and here I thought you answered my question xD
L1333[19:18:47] <pay​onel> you're welcome to try that code as well, though 🙂
L1334[19:18:53] <pay​onel> haha, what was your question?
L1335[19:19:00] <Krae​tzin> Awesome, thanks. I'll give a whirl
L1336[19:19:03] <Kristo​pher38> https://discordapp.com/channels/125649403162656768/125649403162656768/709456475101200476
L1337[19:19:34] <pay​onel> oh that q
L1338[19:19:36] <pay​onel> yeah i saw that
L1339[19:19:37] <pay​onel> :/
L1340[19:19:44] <ben_mkiv> @Kristo​pher38 did you load the cube test before your payload error?
L1341[19:19:49] <ben_mkiv> or did you render lots of widgets
L1342[19:20:02] <ben_mkiv> because the issue is probably within openglasses, just reviewed my network code
L1343[19:20:11] <pay​onel> i know that code. i'll have to revisit it and review the bounding box checks
L1344[19:20:40] <pay​onel> i had to rewrite a bunch of it for >=1.11
L1345[19:20:46] <ben_mkiv> stupid kiddos telling me on forge discord that theres no more 1.12 support -.-
L1346[19:20:47] <pay​onel> you're on 1.12, right?
L1347[19:21:03] <Kristo​pher38> basically in `val target = Vec3.createVectorHelper(entity.posX, entity.posY, entity.posZ)`, I believe entity has it's position at their feet
L1348[19:21:18] <Kristo​pher38> and then you raytrace from origin (motion sensor) to target
L1349[19:21:25] <Kristo​pher38> yeah I'm on 1.12
L1350[19:21:56] <Kristo​pher38> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/cca7f202d5040156bf93a0ef687fd6447fbfd07d/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/server/component/MotionSensor.scala#L107
L1351[19:22:00] <ben_mkiv> thats not how you do it
L1352[19:22:04] <pay​onel> yep
L1353[19:22:15] <ben_mkiv> you use AABB and fetch a list of entities within it, dont you?
L1354[19:22:20] <Kristo​pher38> it doesn't take entity height into account
L1355[19:22:35] <ben_mkiv> no raycast required
L1356[19:23:26] <ben_mkiv> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/blob/203930378b8c6e681e95324e0d3868c89173d898/src/main/java/pcl/opensecurity/common/tileentity/TileEntityEntityDetector.java#L57-L68
L1357[19:24:12] <Kristo​pher38> but what if the entity is hidden from direct view by an obstacle
L1358[19:24:37] <Kristo​pher38> then it shouldn't be detected
L1359[19:24:52] <ben_mkiv> theres a cansee method for that iirc
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L1361[19:25:55] <ben_mkiv> EntityLivingBase.canEntityBeSeen()
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L1363[19:26:17] <pay​onel> @ben_mkiv i appreciate your feedback
L1364[19:26:27] <ben_mkiv> actually canEntityBeSeen(Entity entityIn)
L1365[19:26:27] <pay​onel> do you have a dev env for oc? you should make a PR 🙂
L1366[19:26:50] <ben_mkiv> my dev environments are totally screwed somehow
L1367[19:26:55] <ben_mkiv> all textures are broken for example
L1368[19:27:41] <ben_mkiv> and my scala knowledge is like 0
L1369[19:27:47] <pay​onel> yeah. i blame gradle and intellij
L1370[19:27:58] <pay​onel> i have to make a symlink in the out dir to the assets
L1371[19:28:06] <pay​onel> that fixes the resources
L1372[19:28:18] <Kristo​pher38> anyway ben_mkiv: you said that your code might break if I try to send a packet larger than 32K, or something along those lines, right?
L1373[19:28:29] <ben_mkiv> yea kristopher
L1374[19:28:41] <ben_mkiv> and on joining a game it sends all widgets in one packet
L1375[19:28:47] <ben_mkiv> i thought they are split there, too
L1376[19:28:50] <Kristo​pher38> so for example, loading very large OBJ models would work or not?
L1377[19:29:03] <ben_mkiv> so payonel before making PRs i should fix my own bugs xD
L1378[19:29:29] <ben_mkiv> anything above 32kb will probably break it
L1379[19:29:57] <Kristo​pher38> remember that screenshot I sent earlier?
L1380[19:30:01] <ben_mkiv> yes
L1381[19:30:02] <Kristo​pher38> http://tinyurl.com/y9vsgwnl
L1382[19:30:07] <ben_mkiv> that looks like something that could break it
L1383[19:30:17] <Kristo​pher38> yeah, and it works perfectly fine
L1384[19:30:35] <Kristo​pher38> well, as long as I don't run out of memory in OC for processing that
L1385[19:30:39] <ben_mkiv> as said, it could
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L1387[19:31:54] <Kristo​pher38> okay, let me try to replicate that bug doing what I was doing before
L1388[19:32:12] <Kristo​pher38> this is gonna take some setting up since I removed that tablet :D
L1389[19:32:26] <ben_mkiv> thats probably ~4k vertices with relative coords this might be an edge case where it works and where not
L1390[19:32:49] <Kristo​pher38> let me calculate this
L1391[19:33:25] <Krae​tzin> @payonel I've tested the changes and it works as expected now, thanks a lot! http://tinyurl.com/y7qc2y79
L1392[19:33:39] <Krae​tzin> I can catch the error now 🙂
L1393[19:34:01] <Krae​tzin> This was so that I could do this: http://tinyurl.com/y9quckdz
L1394[19:34:03] <Kristo​pher38> that's `121212` small cubes times 8 vertices each
L1395[19:34:14] <Kristo​pher38> that gives 13824 vertices
L1396[19:34:49] <Kristo​pher38> and 10368 faces, I use quads for them
L1397[19:34:50] <ben_mkiv> then i dont know why it works at all xD
L1398[19:34:55] <Kristo​pher38> did I mention it's inefficient :D
L1399[19:35:19] <Kristo​pher38> I'm literally loading a huge string with like what
L1400[19:35:35] <Kristo​pher38> 13824+10368=24192 lines
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L1402[19:36:18] <ben_mkiv> apparently the payload from server => client isn't that limited
L1403[19:36:20] <Kristo​pher38> and that's just one widget
L1404[19:36:38] <ben_mkiv> "It's not unlimited, but it is "large enough", as in over 200MB. "
L1405[19:37:00] <ben_mkiv> only the other side is limited, now i wonder what caused the issue
L1406[19:37:56] <ben_mkiv> then maybe its an OC bug, and not openglasses
L1407[19:38:02] <ben_mkiv> both of you used tablets
L1408[19:39:01] <ben_mkiv> tho im not sure what OC syncs to the client, if it syncs the whole NBT of the openglasses card that could be an issue
L1409[19:39:21] <Kristo​pher38> @payonel can confirm that tablets are kinda wonky
L1410[19:39:35] <ben_mkiv> payonel, do you know if tablets sync whole component NBT to the client?
L1411[19:39:54] <Kristo​pher38> oh you know what, I'm gonna try that large cube drawing on a tablet, we'll see if it breaks
L1412[19:42:48] <Kristo​pher38> I forgot to change the cpu arch again
L1413[19:42:56] <Kristo​pher38> hm, I think it was possible to change it from lua
L1414[19:44:05] <Kristo​pher38> yesss
L1415[19:44:11] <pay​onel> tablets are junk because we use a cache in the chunk of running machines
L1416[19:44:19] <pay​onel> and the items in hand use keys to that cache
L1417[19:44:32] <pay​onel> tablets are junk because we use a cache in the server of running machines [Edited]
L1418[19:44:44] <pay​onel> anyways, i really dont care for tablets
L1419[19:44:48] <pay​onel> i wish we didnt have them
L1420[19:46:20] <ben_mkiv> yea i was able to force the bug
L1421[19:46:37] <ben_mkiv> so thats tablet specific
L1422[19:46:59] <ben_mkiv> guess OC exposes the whole NBT to minecraft which then sends it forth and back on inventory syncs
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L1425[19:53:11] <Kristo​pher38> you were?
L1426[19:53:26] <ben_mkiv> just added 1k normal cubes
L1427[19:53:40] <Kristo​pher38> oh, good, so I don't have to :D
L1428[19:55:04] <ben_mkiv> i would consider to blame that on OC :P
L1429[19:55:29] <pay​onel> i recommend using remote terminals, not tablets
L1430[19:56:33] <Kristo​pher38> ben_mkiv: yeah, I said it from the beginning :P
L1431[19:57:05] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> one more day until a broken and crippled port launches
L1432[19:57:05] <Kristo​pher38> @payonel but I can't stuff the geolyzer into a remote terminall :(
L1433[19:57:46] <ben_mkiv> use a drone which follows you :P
L1434[19:58:49] <Kristo​pher38> that makes it difficult
L1435[19:59:24] <Kristo​pher38> as in, I'd have to write a solution from scratch
L1436[19:59:39] <Kristo​pher38> so it fits in an EEPROM and consumes as little memory as possible
L1437[19:59:49] <Kristo​pher38> only two 1.5 tier ram sticks can go into a drone
L1438[20:00:10] <Kristo​pher38> and it'd also have to follow you...
L1439[20:00:29] <ben_mkiv> or use openentity and attach a computer to yourself xD
L1440[20:01:09] <ben_mkiv> but that might have the same issue
L1441[20:01:27] <Kristo​pher38> well, it's not like I really want to do this :P
L1442[20:01:57] <ben_mkiv> which makes me wonder where the machines run that are used by openentity
L1443[20:02:01] <Kristo​pher38> I mean, displaying ores on openglasses as you go
L1444[20:02:09] <Kristo​pher38> ore locations* rather
L1445[20:02:20] <Kristo​pher38> It was just and idea that I thought would be fun to quickly hack together using the stuff that I've already got
L1446[20:03:29] <Kristo​pher38> 35 lines of code, it worked pretty well until it borked because it ran out of memory and because of that packet size limit :D
L1447[20:03:57] <Forec​aster> %sip
L1448[20:03:57] <MichiBot> You drink a sour quicksilver potion (New!). Forec​aster turns into a lime sloth until they eat a pie.
L1449[20:04:39] <Forec​aster> Fitting as I'm currently working by standing around doing nothing
L1450[20:05:25] <Kristo​pher38> the thing I was actually supposed to do was chasing mobs
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L1452[20:05:59] <Kristo​pher38> with a robot that is
L1453[20:08:30] <Lizzy> %tonk
L1454[20:08:31] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Li​zzy! You beat The_St​argazer's previous record of 7 hours, 56 minutes and 45 seconds (By 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L1455[20:08:32] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 7 hours, 57 minutes and 15 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00008 (0.00001 x 8) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.11 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L1456[20:10:37] <B​ob> Can i read the golden ticket form a railcraft cart using OC + Computronics ?
L1457[20:10:47] <B​ob> i just don' want to use routing tables when i can use far more superior Lua and Microcontrollers
L1458[20:16:28] <Brisingr​Aerowing> The only thing that I can see that allows that is the locomotive relay.
L1459[20:16:53] <B​ob> is it only for electric locomotives ?
L1460[20:16:59] <B​ob> and if so are there battery carts
L1461[20:17:57] <Krae​tzin> There's a config option in IR that allows for all trains to have radio cards fitted
L1462[20:18:56] <B​ob> r a i l c r a f t ?
L1463[20:19:18] <Krae​tzin> My brain farted, sorry. I'm currently working IR
L1464[20:19:20] <B​ob> should i give IR a shot ?
L1465[20:20:02] <Krae​tzin> Yeah I can recommend it. It's more work to set up than Railcraft though
L1466[20:20:03] <B​ob> models way too real
L1467[20:20:19] <B​ob> i already see the 0fps mark
L1468[20:20:23] <B​ob> lul
L1469[20:20:49] <Brisingr​Aerowing> I usually get around 55-60 FPS with IR stuff.
L1470[20:20:51] <Krae​tzin> FPS isn't bad tbh, I haven't noticed slowdowns
L1471[20:21:03] <B​ob> GTX 650 and i3 here
L1472[20:21:06] <B​ob> :GWaobloChildPepeCry:
L1473[20:21:10] <Brisingr​Aerowing> My normal FPS is around 60-70.
L1474[20:21:13] <Krae​tzin> Oof, d'no then 😛
L1475[20:21:13] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Ah.
L1476[20:21:45] <Brisingr​Aerowing> GTX 1660 here.
L1477[20:21:51] <Brisingr​Aerowing> And an i5.
L1478[20:23:21] <Ocawes​ome101> RX 560 + i5-8400
L1479[20:23:33] <B​ob> 2012 gaming beast
L1480[20:23:40] <Vexatos> @Bob you can
L1481[20:23:45] <Vexatos> of course you can
L1482[20:23:53] <Brisingr​Aerowing> My setup was a birthday gift from my uncle.
L1483[20:24:13] <Brisingr​Aerowing> I want to build my own eventually, though.
L1484[20:24:28] <Brisingr​Aerowing> I'd probably repurpose this as a personal server.
L1485[20:24:36] <Vexatos> if the locomotive is electric and only operates in a small area (up to 128 blocks in distance) you can use a locomotive relay, otherwise you can connect to a digital detector and have the train pass over it
L1486[20:25:44] <B​ob> ohhh that works
L1487[20:25:45] <B​ob> cooooool
L1488[20:25:54] <B​ob> Well then imma go do that big thanks
L1489[20:25:54] <Ocawes​ome101> I want a better GPU sometime soon, but other than that I'm pretty happy with my system
L1490[20:26:10] <B​ob> time to dive in a 4 hour scripting advencture
L1491[20:26:14] <B​ob> i will change my PC soon
L1492[20:26:22] <Vexatos> I know the railcraft stuff in computronics pretty well
L1493[20:26:28] <Vexatos> as one might imagine
L1494[20:26:43] <B​ob> full team red and i plan getting linux (pop os or manjaro probs) as main OS, heck i even need to change my peripherals and my chair
L1495[20:26:47] <B​ob> Well its good
L1496[20:26:52] <Vexatos> you can also set destinations by controlling a routing track with an adapter
L1497[20:26:58] <B​ob> i'll come here begging for help whenever it will missbehave
L1498[20:27:05] <B​ob> thats good to know too
L1499[20:27:06] <B​ob> noted
L1500[20:27:07] <Vexatos> and you can also access routing tables inside routing detectors and routing switches
L1501[20:27:28] <Forec​aster> Vexatos: I can't believe it
L1502[20:27:28] <B​ob> too much to note
L1503[20:27:45] <B​ob> he never told us how awesome he made Computronics
L1504[20:27:48] <Vexatos> just wait until you realize digital detectors exist
L1505[20:27:51] <B​ob> evil to keep all the sweet secrets
L1506[20:28:03] <Vexatos> bob the railcraft stuff is the first thing I did for computronics
L1507[20:28:12] <Vexatos> also it's not secret it's literally right in the manual
L1508[20:28:49] <B​ob> barely using the OC manual
L1509[20:28:56] <Vexatos> well that's your problem
L1510[20:29:02] <Vexatos> I am actually mega proud of the railcraft stuff in tronics
L1511[20:29:15] <Vexatos> it's the only real high-quality content I ever modded into a game
L1512[20:29:16] <B​ob> my bad
L1513[20:29:29] <Vexatos> it also makes up like 20% of computronics source code
L1514[20:29:42] <B​ob> its a gem indeed
L1515[20:29:44] <B​ob> i like it
L1516[20:29:46] <Vexatos> and I designed it in such a way that it makes no part of railcraft's own routing systems obsolete
L1517[20:29:46] <Forec​aster> But what about flamingo
L1518[20:30:03] <Vexatos> it integrates OC into Railcraft routing without replacing it
L1519[20:30:06] <B​ob> http://tinyurl.com/ya8o2c8w
L1520[20:30:16] <Vexatos> all with feedback from CJ and some other guy I forgot the name of
L1521[20:30:16] <B​ob> time to digitalize this hellize junction
L1522[20:30:19] <B​ob> hellish*
L1523[20:30:24] <Vexatos> no clue who that might be
L1524[20:30:49] <Vexatos> @Flamingo I could never have made that, I took it over from copygirl
L1525[20:30:50] <Forec​aster> Who is this person I'll destroy them
L1526[20:31:27] <Vexatos> wait bob that looks almost like a more complicated version of that one forecaster made in a video like 5 years ago
L1527[20:31:38] <Vexatos> was it the one with signal tokens?
L1528[20:32:16] <Vexatos> nope
L1529[20:32:21] <B​ob> i was just thinking of abstracting the whole process by just having the junction be told in wich cardinal direction the cart heads,
L1530[20:32:22] <Vexatos> the token one was way simpler
L1531[20:32:32] <B​ob> altough im clueless how to allow multiple carts on such a junction
L1532[20:32:49] <Vexatos> that's what you need signal blocks for
L1533[20:33:07] <Vexatos> and the magical interlock boxes
L1534[20:33:31] <Forec​aster> Someone made a video explaining all of that
L1535[20:33:53] <B​ob> i do use signal blocks
L1536[20:33:59] <B​ob> under rails and the little red box over there
L1537[20:34:06] <B​ob> i used a flip flop with nor gates
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L1539[20:34:18] <B​ob> the frist thing i did was signals really
L1540[20:34:51] <Vexatos> watch forecaster's series on signalling
L1541[20:34:53] <Vexatos> it's really good
L1542[20:34:58] <Vexatos> unlike his microphone back then
L1543[20:35:12] <B​ob> i did watch some
L1544[20:35:25] <B​ob> but i can try figuring out some of the aspects too
L1545[20:35:35] <B​ob> but i will watch the rest for neat tricks probs
L1546[20:35:43] <Vexatos> aspects aren't hard to figure out
L1547[20:35:48] <Vexatos> there are only five
L1548[20:35:49] <Vexatos> :^)
L1549[20:37:36] <B​ob> yeah, just configuring what and who triggers
L1550[20:41:17] <Forec​aster> I will re-make those at some point
L1551[20:42:50] <Vexatos> @Forecaster a full tutorial into signalling and then routing?
L1552[20:42:58] <Vexatos> your routing tutorial is a lot more recent
L1553[20:43:11] <Lizzy> if you're doing a 4-way junction like that and want all the track to be in some form of signal block (to prevent collisions), i'd recomend having as few turns as possible (i.e., the tracks that are on the diagonal corners, just make them have one bend instead of 3)
L1554[20:43:48] <B​ob> Lizzy, just allowing one cart on the whole junction lol
L1555[20:43:59] <B​ob> i have a sr latch to watch the status
L1556[20:44:06] <Lizzy> ah, okay
L1557[20:44:10] <B​ob> btw will OC 1.12.2 have A s i e's fork fixes, like VBOs (i get a big improvement form them on my poor pc if i have a lot of screens)
L1558[20:44:20] <B​ob> i'm now implementing the auto routing
L1559[20:44:28] <B​ob> using cardinal directions and not hardcoded directions
L1560[20:44:35] <B​ob> so i can just from a mster server add an entry to my junction
L1561[20:44:52] <B​ob> cause relative > absolute
L1562[20:44:55] <Lizzy> i attempted to write something like that once, but then lost motivation lol
L1563[20:45:05] <B​ob> lol even more typical of me
L1564[20:45:12] <B​ob> i have like 6 scripts open in Notepad++
L1565[20:45:15] <B​ob> but that i never came back too
L1566[20:45:21] <B​ob> i'm a lazy piece of gunk lol
L1567[20:45:42] <Lizzy> i don't think there's anything in my openprograms repo that's actually either finished or even in a working state
L1568[20:45:42] <B​ob> altough i will justify myself, my pc or rather MC sucks at being performant
L1569[20:45:59] <Vexatos> I wrote a script three weeks ago and ran it for the first time today to crunch 3GB of plaintext by running a long regex string over each line
L1570[20:46:12] <Vexatos> took 30 seconds
L1571[20:46:16] <Vexatos> very nice
L1572[20:47:06] <Lizzy> hmm, why is my home server not routing packets properly
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L1574[20:47:21] <Vexatos> because you have a typo in the routing table
L1575[20:47:32] <Vexatos> should have used forecaster's spellchecker
L1576[20:47:35] <Lizzy> tbh wouldn't suprise me
L1577[20:51:03] <B​ob> i did wrote a java application, but im now trying to add a gui
L1578[20:51:14] <B​ob> as i have no idea how to have a tree structure in a shell
L1579[20:55:30] <B​ob> eh the digital detector doesn't work ?
L1580[20:55:54] <Saphire> Rawr
L1581[20:55:58] <Lizzy> Nyaa
L1582[20:56:11] <B​ob> how do i connect a digital detector
L1583[20:56:15] <B​ob> cause it doesn't use OC cables
L1584[20:56:19] <B​ob> i need an adapter rite ?
L1585[20:56:30] <Lizzy> it should use OC cables?
L1586[20:56:40] <B​ob> nope ?
L1587[20:56:58] <B​ob> http://tinyurl.com/yd7tp3jw
L1588[20:56:58] <Lizzy> hmm, it's been a while since i used them but i thought cables were used
L1589[20:57:09] <B​ob> http://tinyurl.com/y8qq9hzo
L1590[20:57:15] <B​ob> nor cables or adapters work
L1591[20:57:25] <Lizzy> did you have the cart go over top?
L1592[20:58:00] <B​ob> i have one under the rail
L1593[20:58:09] <B​ob> and it doesn't work either
L1594[20:58:19] <B​ob> btw i use A s i e's fork
L1595[20:58:33] <B​ob> matches OC 1.7.5
L1596[20:58:37] <B​ob> idk what subbuild
L1597[20:58:50] <Vexatos> bob
L1598[20:58:56] <B​ob> oh wait
L1599[20:59:00] <Vexatos> did you connect the cable
L1600[20:59:02] <Vexatos> to the side
L1601[20:59:05] <B​ob> the little thingy is what it connects to
L1602[20:59:06] <Vexatos> that is obviously a cable connection
L1603[20:59:11] <B​ob> yeah i tough that was the detector
L1604[20:59:20] <Vexatos> ...have you ever used a railcraft detector
L1605[20:59:32] <B​ob> a while ago yes
L1606[20:59:32] <Lizzy> hah! i knew i wasn't completely crazy
L1607[20:59:36] <B​ob> the red side is the output
L1608[20:59:36] <Vexatos> on normal detectors that side is the redstone output
L1609[21:00:00] <B​ob> yeah, didn't click in my head
L1610[21:00:02] <B​ob> i need sleep
L1611[21:00:05] <B​ob> http://tinyurl.com/y7scffor
L1612[21:00:08] <B​ob> yeah it works perfectly
L1613[21:00:09] <B​ob> thanks
L1614[21:00:10] <Vexatos> imagine reading the manual
L1615[21:00:11] <Vexatos> :⁾
L1616[21:01:13] <B​ob> its booooriing
L1617[21:01:29] <B​ob> i learn Rust the same way
L1618[21:01:31] <Vexatos> would save you time compared to trying out stuff that doesn't work
L1619[21:01:33] <B​ob> 😉
L1620[21:16:26] <mout​z_626> Hi, anybody knows how to reboot a computer on server reboot automatically? After server reboot it´s still turned on and does not run the autrun file
L1621[21:20:59] <mout​z_626> Or maybe any other idea/workaround to get a program runned from start after the minecraft server has rebooted?
L1622[21:21:19] <M​GR> You want to turn a computer on whenever the MC server turns on?
L1623[21:21:32] <mout​z_626> yes something like this
L1624[21:22:07] <pay​onel> persistence means your opencomputer machine runs between mc server restarts, un-aware the world is reloaded
L1625[21:22:19] <pay​onel> why do you need it to run a script when the chunk/world reloads?
L1626[21:22:21] <mout​z_626> It would be sufficeient as well if at least one programm ist starting again after server reboot
L1627[21:22:30] <pay​onel> sure, why?
L1628[21:22:47] <pay​onel> what's the difference between a chunk reloading and a server restart?
L1629[21:22:51] <mout​z_626> I want to send an automatic message to discord after the minecraft server hast started
L1630[21:23:25] <mout​z_626> chunk loading would also be fine as the chunk is loaded constantly when the server is online
L1631[21:24:14] <pay​onel> that's breaking the 4th wall 🙂
L1632[21:24:29] <pay​onel> we try to make the computers unaware of reloading
L1633[21:24:35] <mout​z_626> With computercraft it was working but now we have changed to opencomputers
L1634[21:24:36] <pay​onel> that's...the point of persistence 🙂
L1635[21:24:40] <pay​onel> right
L1636[21:24:44] <pay​onel> bc cc doesn't have persistence
L1637[21:24:56] <pay​onel> welcome to oc 🙂 haha
L1638[21:25:03] <pay​onel> sort of a rude introduction i suppose
L1639[21:25:13] <mout​z_626> thanks but any idea for a workaround?
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L1642[21:25:45] <mout​z_626> maybe wake on some event
L1643[21:25:58] <mout​z_626> wake on lane or something
L1644[21:26:06] <pay​onel> you're missing the point
L1645[21:26:10] <pay​onel> the machine is still running
L1646[21:26:19] <pay​onel> it is unaware of server reboots
L1647[21:26:42] <mout​z_626> just brainstorming now.... yea but maybe I can turn it off by redstone and turn it again on
L1648[21:26:52] <pay​onel> when would you turn it off?
L1649[21:26:58] <pay​onel> there is no world restart event
L1650[21:27:31] <pay​onel> do you have another mod that does anything unique due to chunk load / restart?
L1651[21:28:10] <mout​z_626> I will check google for blocks taht change their state on server reboot maybe I can find something
L1652[21:28:28] <pay​onel> you could program in a timeout i suppose
L1653[21:28:42] <pay​onel> and send a message "really long tick, maybe a restart?"
L1654[21:29:12] <mout​z_626> ok sounds interesting
L1655[21:29:14] <pay​onel> if that works for you, compare computer.uptime() to os.date()
L1656[21:29:40] <mout​z_626> if the server is off for 8hours would that be cosidered as areally long tick?
L1657[21:29:52] <pay​onel> 🙂 ticks should be 1/20s
L1658[21:30:17] <pay​onel> and i would leave a huge threshold, i believe mc forge kills itself if a tick takes >= 60s
L1659[21:30:19] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> reee
L1660[21:30:25] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i wanna compile lupi2 for i686
L1661[21:30:29] <pay​onel> so i would report ticks that took longer than 60s
L1662[21:33:34] <mout​z_626> is it connected to real life time? I mean the server will be offline if my personal computer is shut off and it will keep it´s last state because of the persistence even if I turn it on the next day?
L1663[21:40:01] <pay​onel> hmm....i yeah we use the world time for offsets on that. right
L1664[21:40:20] <pay​onel> you can extrapolate tick length, but it doesn't increase when the server is offline
L1665[21:40:28] <pay​onel> you could use a modified time stamp "hack"
L1666[21:40:40] <pay​onel> if you create a file on your hard disk, you can read its last modified tiem
L1667[21:40:42] <pay​onel> if you create a file on your hard disk, you can read its last modified time [Edited]
L1668[21:40:52] <pay​onel> then you can create a second file and compare the mod times
L1669[21:40:58] <pay​onel> those are real times
L1670[21:41:01] <pay​onel> well, based on real time
L1671[21:41:21] <pay​onel> you can test that. i think that'd work
L1672[21:42:33] <mout​z_626> ok thx we´ll try that
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L1674[22:05:47] <Kristo​pher38> @moutz_626 just make it send ping periodically to some webserver
L1675[22:06:05] <Kristo​pher38> I mean, some outside app
L1676[22:06:16] <Kristo​pher38> that checks the time between pings
L1677[22:06:41] <Kristo​pher38> if it's larger than the supposed time between pings +- some tolerance it should sent a notification to discord
L1678[22:09:26] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> fiNALLY
L1679[22:09:31] <Ocawes​ome101> I made a very basic VT100 formatter which I'm using for manual pages
L1680[22:09:31] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> I CAN COMPILE LUPI2
L1681[22:09:35] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i just had to compile
L1682[22:09:39] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> literally every dependency
L1683[22:09:43] <Ocawes​ome101> o h
L1684[22:09:45] <Ocawes​ome101> yikes
L1685[22:09:53] <Ocawes​ome101> on the p3+512m RAM?
L1686[22:09:57] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> lol no
L1687[22:10:05] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> my TR 1900x
L1688[22:10:05] <Ocawes​ome101> good
L1689[22:10:11] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> OpenSSL tho
L1690[22:10:17] <Ocawes​ome101> that is much less torture
L1691[22:10:21] <Ocawes​ome101> o
L1692[22:10:39] <Ocawes​ome101> why does LuPi2 require OpenSSL?
L1693[22:12:38] <ThePi​Guy24> AC: now make OCVMOS
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L1696[22:13:59] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> because HTTPS? @Ocawesome101
L1697[22:14:50] <Ocawes​ome101> oh
L1698[22:14:50] <Ocawes​ome101> fair
L1699[22:19:57] <Ocawes​ome101> aaaaaa makefiles are terrible
L1700[22:20:18] <Ocawes​ome101> I have `all: dep`
L1701[22:20:29] <Ocawes​ome101> but is it building `dep`?
L1702[22:20:31] <Ocawes​ome101> of course not
L1703[22:21:11] <Ocawes​ome101> well, specifically, I have this
L1704[22:21:40] <Ocawes​ome101> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/avicukunuz
L1705[22:22:42] <Ocawes​ome101> but it doesn't do anything
L1706[22:24:30] <pay​onel> you should depend all on dest files
L1707[22:24:31] <pay​onel> not the src files
L1708[22:24:41] <Ocawes​ome101> ...oh
L1709[22:24:42] <Ocawes​ome101> ok
L1710[22:25:27] <Ocawes​ome101> changing to `wildcard dest/*` and `dest/%:` doesn't do anything
L1711[22:26:56] <pay​onel> are there files there already ?
L1712[22:27:07] <pay​onel> typically you infer the expected targets
L1713[22:27:25] <pay​onel> `dest/*` would work if you expect the files to exist after `make clean`, for example
L1714[22:27:45] <Ocawes​ome101> I have `src/man`, and `dest` is empty
L1715[22:27:58] <pay​onel> then you have specified an empty set
L1716[22:28:04] <pay​onel> thus, all is done for nothing 🙂
L1717[22:28:08] <Ocawes​ome101> I'm trying to do dynamic manpage generation
L1718[22:28:28] <pay​onel> that's why i said, "typically you infer the expected targets"
L1719[22:29:04] <pay​onel> so for example, if you have a `src/file` and you expect `dest/file.man` then you need to translate each filename in `src` as `dest/${filename}.man`
L1720[22:29:16] <Ocawes​ome101> mhm
L1721[22:29:30] <Ocawes​ome101> well "manpage" == "vt100-formatted manual document"
L1722[22:29:34] <Ocawes​ome101> in this case
L1723[22:29:36] <pay​onel> sure
L1724[22:29:42] <pay​onel> i'm speaking generically
L1725[22:29:59] <Ocawes​ome101> rught
L1726[22:30:04] <Ocawes​ome101> *right
L1727[22:30:19] <pay​onel> do you understand why it isn't working?
L1728[22:31:06] <Ocawes​ome101> er, no, not really
L1729[22:31:19] <Ocawes​ome101> I do very little with makefiles
L1730[22:32:00] <pay​onel> i can explain more later, in a meeting
L1731[22:32:11] <Ocawes​ome101> 👍
L1732[22:34:55] <Ocawes​ome101> I managed to get it to work... not quite ideally, but acceptably
L1733[22:35:04] <Ocawes​ome101> explanation would still be great though
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L1735[23:04:14] <pay​onel> @Ocawesome101 if i can be brief. when you specify a target for make - make follows the dep tree to the children. if a target missing (i.e. the file does not exist) XOR the file is OLDER than its deps, then it runs the command to update the target
L1736[23:04:27] <pay​onel> file.o: file.c
L1737[23:04:27] <pay​onel> gcc -o file.o file.c
L1738[23:04:34] <pay​onel> if i update file.c, it is newer than file.o
L1739[23:04:41] <pay​onel> so make will recompile file.c to update file.o
L1740[23:04:49] <pay​onel> or, if i rm file.o, make will recreate it
L1741[23:05:07] <pay​onel> if you have: `all: src/file`
L1742[23:05:18] <pay​onel> then make looks at the dep tree for `src/file`
L1743[23:05:46] <pay​onel> if there is no special target def for `src/file` then make says, ok, src/file is on disk (exists) and it has no deps, so, it is good. that means all si good
L1744[23:05:50] <pay​onel> is*
L1745[23:06:19] <pay​onel> on the other hand, `all: dest/file` is what you meant. when `dest/file` is missing, or it is older than `src/file` then make should reconsider building `dest/file`
L1746[23:06:31] <pay​onel> but you have to tell make how to build/update `dest/file`
L1747[23:07:08] <pay​onel> if you remove your `dest/` folder, then those files don't exist. if you use a wildcard to get a list of deps for `all`, but that wildcard result is an empty set, you're saying all has no deps. and make is very happy to do nothing
L1748[23:08:47] <pay​onel> if you want more dynamic behavior, where you know your expected `dest/` files based on some pattern, then you have to explain that to make
L1749[23:09:16] <pay​onel> for example, you could wildcard your `src/` folder, and then put in some string replacement code in make to build a list of `dest/${filename}` paths
L1750[23:09:21] <Brisingr​Aerowing> @moutz_626 there are some Discord integration mods that can do whay you’re trying to do in a much better manner.
L1751[23:09:30] <B​ob> any way to solve https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/3254 but monkeypatch ? i'm overwriting the copy function but its v slow
L1752[23:09:31] <MichiBot> Title: Hologram Copy isn't working at all (or im dumb) | Posted by: big-lip-bob | Posted: Thu Mar 26 20:52:58 CDT 2020 | Status: open
L1753[23:09:54] <pay​onel> @Bob i haven't had time to review/repro the bug
L1754[23:10:03] <pay​onel> are we sure it is a valid bug?
L1755[23:10:10] <B​ob> i can reretry
L1756[23:10:32] <B​ob> i just have a weird rotation matrix that shrinks the holo perfectly to teh screen maybe thats the issue
L1757[23:10:35] <B​ob> i would need a new holo
L1758[23:11:08] <B​ob> i will now try on the forked version
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L1760[23:21:45] <B​ob> ill go grab a build from teh experimental server
L1761[23:30:02] <B​ob> http://tinyurl.com/yb62cvw2
L1762[23:30:08] <B​ob> ho lee fuk it actually loaded
L1763[23:48:18] <B​ob> eww
L1764[23:48:21] <B​ob> http://tinyurl.com/ybqpc9cy
L1765[23:48:30] <B​ob> is this redish color normal on the 199 dev build ?
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L1770[23:57:34] <Ocawes​ome101> @Bob is it a T2 screen?
L1771[23:58:11] <B​ob> T3
L1772[23:58:18] <B​ob> Latest OC build 199
L1773[23:58:20] <Ocawes​ome101> hm
L1774[23:58:29] <Ocawes​ome101> do different tiers have different colors?
L1775[23:58:36] <B​ob> its gone now apparently
L1776[23:58:42] <Ocawes​ome101> ...huh
L1777[23:58:53] <B​ob> creating and getting rid of bugs lie
L1778[23:58:53] <B​ob> live
L1779[23:58:57] <Krae​tzin> You can change screen colour by right clicking with dye
L1780[23:59:01] <B​ob> never using t2 in creative
L1781[23:59:05] <B​ob> this is the screen outline color
L1782[23:59:26] <Krae​tzin> Ah of course yeah, that one shouldn't change
L1783[23:59:29] <B​ob> the outline color never changes
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