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L1[00:33:58] <Ocawes​ome101> fair
L2[00:40:21] <Amanda> Vexatos: if you want an idea of my dad's technical level, he thought his mouse was broken, and the wifi was dead... becasse he somehow put his laptop into airplane mode.
L3[00:42:39] <pay​onel> well....anyone could make that mistake
L4[00:44:20] <Amanda> payonel: true, but he gave up on using his laptop entirely, and was watching Amazon Prime on his phone instead.
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L6[01:05:27] <AshleighTheCutie> im back
L7[01:05:39] <AshleighTheCutie> amazingly, WocChat hasn't crashed yet
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L10[01:19:27] <Amanda> %choose veg out and halucinate?
L11[01:19:28] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Hm, yeah okay.
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L13[01:31:28] <Demo__> this mod is crazy
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L18[01:48:35] <Webchat067> Hello?
L19[01:52:18] <Amanda> Sorry, chats closed
L20[01:52:38] <Amanda> Come back during business hours
L21[01:52:44] * Amanda flees
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L24[02:21:07] <CompanionCube> heh?
L25[02:28:03] <Lizzy> %tonk
L26[02:28:03] <MichiBot> Fudge! Li​zzy! You beat Squi​dDev's previous record of 4 hours, 57 minutes and 32 seconds (By 2 hours, 45 minutes and 12 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L27[02:28:04] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 7 hours, 42 minutes and 45 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.01375 (0.00275 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.14029 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L28[02:59:29] <Brisingr​Aerowing> %sip
L29[02:59:30] <MichiBot> You drink a salty caterium potion (New!). After the first sip the potion poofs away.
L30[02:59:38] <Brisingr​Aerowing> Awwwww....
L31[02:59:44] <Brisingr​Aerowing> %loot
L32[02:59:44] <MichiBot> Brisingr​​Aerowing: You get a loot box! It contains a Shiny family of quakers! (10%) (10%)
L33[03:00:18] <Brisingr​Aerowing> But do they make oats? 🤔
L34[03:06:17] <Ar​iri> Do not eats the oats, brother.
L35[03:09:23] <ThePi​Guy24> do not eat the oath or oauth either
L36[03:11:31] <AshleighTheCutie> hai
L37[03:11:35] <AshleighTheCutie> is the chat ded
L38[03:12:00] <ThePi​Guy24> no
L39[03:12:04] <Ar​iri> it has activity when relevant'
L40[03:13:22] <AshleighTheCutie> hm
L41[03:13:26] <Ar​iri> Waifu2x is slowly consuming my hard drive with its art upscaling, but it makes photoshop so much easier because it can clean up any pixel scraps I leave behind
L42[03:23:59] <AshleighTheCutie> you draw? cool
L43[03:26:17] <Ar​iri> I wish I could, but sadly I don't. I edit others artworks to make something half-original, but it varies.
L44[03:27:16] <Ar​iri> http://tinyurl.com/y7y9b5wv
L45[03:27:17] <Ar​iri> http://tinyurl.com/yaztajfr
L46[03:27:53] <Ar​iri> I just realized something that irks me about the first one.
L47[03:28:28] <AshleighTheCutie> Those aren't lewd, right?
L48[03:28:39] <Ar​iri> Nope.
L49[03:28:46] <AshleighTheCutie> oki
L50[03:30:31] <AshleighTheCutie> cute
L51[03:30:40] <AshleighTheCutie> very cute~
L52[03:30:47] <Ar​iri> Picsart stuff to pass time, graphic design is what photoshopping is actually useful for
L53[03:30:54] <Ar​iri> Yus
L54[03:31:29] <Ar​iri> I make some for people as digital gifts sometimes, either a picture of them or their waifu
L55[03:31:33] <Ar​iri> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L56[03:31:33] <ThePi​Guy24> my god PHP isnt fun
L57[03:31:56] <Ar​iri> it's plenty fun
L58[03:32:05] <ThePi​Guy24> no
L59[03:32:31] <Ar​iri> Pretty Heckin Pleasant
L60[03:32:35] <Ar​iri> PHP
L61[03:32:41] <Ar​iri> :P
L62[03:32:44] <AshleighTheCutie> hehe
L63[03:33:15] <ThePi​Guy24> P - Please, H - Help, P -
L64[03:33:58] <ThePi​Guy24> Please HelP
L65[03:33:59] <Ar​iri> And that's the last we heard of them.
L66[03:34:21] <AshleighTheCutie> oof
L67[03:34:33] <AshleighTheCutie> RIP ThePiGuy24
L68[03:35:26] <Ar​iri> RIP in PHP
L69[03:35:42] <ThePi​Guy24> PHP needs to RIP
L70[03:36:37] <AshleighTheCutie> Datbases.
L71[03:36:41] <AshleighTheCutie> databases*
L72[03:36:50] <AshleighTheCutie> Databases are, personally, fun.
L73[03:36:53] <ThePi​Guy24> batadases
L74[03:37:00] <AshleighTheCutie> ?
L75[03:37:25] <ThePi​Guy24> tasadebas
L76[03:37:30] <AshleighTheCutie> ????
L77[03:37:47] <ThePi​Guy24> databases but scrambled
L78[03:37:51] <AshleighTheCutie> oh
L79[03:37:53] <ThePi​Guy24> just like how they always are
L80[03:37:53] <Ar​iri> Corrupt
L81[03:38:58] <AshleighTheCutie> I use them on their own, withough programs.
L82[03:39:04] <AshleighTheCutie> Inventory and such.
L83[03:39:17] <AshleighTheCutie> They work great with a basic editor for that
L84[03:39:26] <Ar​iri> Which reminds me to cronjob my snapraid syncing
L85[03:39:54] <AshleighTheCutie> snapraid?
L86[03:40:39] <Ar​iri> Like normal RAID, but with varying disk sizes
L87[03:40:49] <AshleighTheCutie> hm
L88[03:41:01] <AshleighTheCutie> if only my 2005 HW raid controller supported that...
L89[03:41:02] <ThePi​Guy24> sounds cursed
L90[03:41:09] <AshleighTheCutie> it IS cursed, i love it
L91[03:41:33] <Ar​iri> Its software raid
L92[03:41:48] <Ar​iri> On my repurpose/souped-up Intel Pentium from ~2010
L93[03:41:53] <Ar​iri> HP deskop
L94[03:41:55] <Ar​iri> HP desktop [Edited]
L95[03:42:10] <AshleighTheCutie> I'm running RAID on a dedi server forom 2008
L96[03:42:18] <ThePi​Guy24> its all fun and games until you start getting errors for no explicable reason
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L98[03:42:58] <AshleighTheCutie> so the only option is craptastic 2005 HW RAID cards with very little support for anything, and only one at a time
L99[03:43:04] <AshleighTheCutie> and only 6 drives
L100[03:43:30] <AshleighTheCutie> one of which is ded and is only there for dust filtration
L101[03:43:43] <AshleighTheCutie> runs modded MC fine tho
L102[03:43:52] <AshleighTheCutie> modded MC server*
L103[03:44:15] <ThePi​Guy24> i run modded MC on my server
L104[03:44:17] <Ar​iri> CPU bottlenecks are the big issue there
L105[03:44:28] <AshleighTheCutie> dual CPU system, Intel Xeon
L106[03:44:35] <ThePi​Guy24> mostly the server, sometimes the client if im feeling fun
L107[03:44:47] <AshleighTheCutie> 32 GB RAM, DDR... 2? i thonk?
L108[03:44:57] <AshleighTheCutie> 667 MHz IIRC
L109[03:45:04] <AshleighTheCutie> ECC tho
L110[03:45:08] <ThePi​Guy24> spoody
L111[03:45:16] <Ar​iri> Not bad
L112[03:45:19] <AshleighTheCutie> sanic fast
L113[03:45:56] <Ar​iri> Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5300 @ 2.60GHz (2 cores)
L114[03:45:56] <AshleighTheCutie> crap, now i have to make a USB dongle that on startup plays sonic 1 green hil zone earrape for a second or two
L115[03:45:56] <Ar​iri> :P
L116[03:46:12] <ThePi​Guy24> yes
L117[03:46:26] <Ar​iri> Which now reminds me to get a proper heatsink for my gaming rig, so I can overclock the r5 2400g
L118[03:46:35] <AshleighTheCutie> hang on, let me get my sys specs
L119[03:46:50] <AshleighTheCutie> the command is 'neofetch', correct?
L120[03:47:07] <Ar​iri> Think so
L121[03:47:09] <ThePi​Guy24> neofetch is one way
L122[03:47:17] <ThePi​Guy24> its definitley the coolest though
L123[03:47:25] <Ar​iri> https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Pavilion-P6711F-Desktop-Pentium-E5700-3GHz-4GB-RAM-1TB-HDD-WiFi-Clean-BIOs/274240061981?hash=item3fd9fb421d:g:i1AAAOSwZgheMz5X&autorefresh=true Mine is this, but with more drives in a new case running Ubuntu-server, lol.
L124[03:47:58] <AshleighTheCutie> mine wont run ubuntu server, only ubuntu desktop with the GUI disbaled
L125[03:48:24] <AshleighTheCutie> the Broadcom shitty drivers prevent the network from working with anything but Ubuntu Desktop for some fucking reason
L126[03:48:37] <AshleighTheCutie> Thanks Dell!
L127[03:48:52] <AshleighTheCutie> brb
L128[03:48:56] <Ar​iri> Oof, Dell. Why not get a cheap network card or something?
L129[03:51:01] <AshleighTheCutie> because the internal cant be disabled, and Ubuntu's shitty installer defults to it and can't be changed
L130[03:51:14] <AshleighTheCutie> https://pastebin.com/W1PDNX6s
L131[03:51:17] <AshleighTheCutie> sys specs
L132[03:51:43] <AshleighTheCutie> neofetch doesnt mention the dual socket config
L133[03:53:00] <ThePi​Guy24> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/692408359235879042/unknown.png
L134[03:53:14] <AshleighTheCutie> i cant open that
L135[03:53:21] <AshleighTheCutie> too long to copy manually
L136[03:53:24] <Sagh​etti> ooh
L137[03:53:26] <ThePi​Guy24> oof
L138[03:53:29] <Sagh​etti> are we flexing servers?
L139[03:53:31] <Ar​iri> http://tinyurl.com/y8kscdrk
L140[03:53:34] <Ar​iri> Here
L141[03:53:43] <Ar​iri> (possibly)
L142[03:54:09] <AshleighTheCutie> huh? possibly?
L143[03:54:17] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/ycoebw4v
L144[03:54:17] <AshleighTheCutie> i wont be opening that link then
L145[03:54:17] <Sagh​etti> :dab:
L146[03:54:27] <Ar​iri> That's the same image, but I don't know if itll shortlink for you
L147[03:54:30] <Ar​iri> I just copy pasted
L148[03:54:43] <Sagh​etti> 128 gigs of ram
L149[03:54:48] <Sagh​etti> 40 cores (80 threads)
L150[03:54:56] <AshleighTheCutie> ooh
L151[03:55:09] <Sagh​etti> really nice NVMe SSDs
L152[03:55:15] <Ar​iri> If I had the cash to spend I would. Getting a 3D printer first though with my sold Switch money.
L153[03:55:21] <AshleighTheCutie> well see, mine was free sooooo
L154[03:55:46] <AshleighTheCutie> ooh 3d printing
L155[03:57:01] <Ar​iri> I hope one of my cpus can handle the ml/ai work im going to throw at it soon
L156[03:57:09] <Ar​iri> (tm)
L157[03:57:15] <ThePi​Guy24> AshleighTheCutie: is this any better: http://files.thepiguy24.net/misc/neofetch.png
L158[03:58:18] <Ar​iri> I wonder if I could make iPad a PADD for both my server and Pihole stats..
L159[03:58:28] <AshleighTheCutie> matrox is still around? O.o
L160[03:58:37] <AshleighTheCutie> but yee, very noice server
L161[03:59:23] <ThePi​Guy24> that image is a little old as i upgraded to 19.10 recently
L162[03:59:41] <AshleighTheCutie> im just amazed by the Matrox GFX card
L163[03:59:51] <AshleighTheCutie> thought they died in the 90s
L164[04:00:46] <ThePi​Guy24> from what i can tell, it was designed in 1998 or 1999
L165[04:00:56] <AshleighTheCutie> wow
L166[04:01:05] <ThePi​Guy24> whereas the server itself is from 2014
L167[04:01:08] <AshleighTheCutie> didnt think that would have support anymore
L168[04:01:17] <AshleighTheCutie> you know, because what server has PCI?
L169[04:01:44] <AshleighTheCutie> hell, even my 2008 server has to have a specialized riser with a chip on it to get PCI-64
L170[04:01:58] <AshleighTheCutie> prolly a bridge chip, if i had to guess
L171[04:02:40] <ThePi​Guy24> i get about 10 fps on the modded minecraft server i play on with it
L172[04:02:59] <AshleighTheCutie> amazed it works at all
L173[04:03:08] <ThePi​Guy24> yeah i was too
L174[04:03:38] <ThePi​Guy24> works fine for Ultimate Doom though :p
L175[04:03:48] <AshleighTheCutie> hehe
L176[04:03:53] <ThePi​Guy24> its a little overpowered of course :p
L177[04:05:34] <AshleighTheCutie> if anyone wants to join my ATM3 Remix server, let me know
L178[04:06:10] <Ar​iri> i used to host that way back when... made my own pack later though
L179[04:06:10] <Ar​iri> its been down ever since my server couldnt open terminal a week ago though
L180[04:06:58] <Ar​iri> and i wanted to play on it too... I usually leave it running all the time when people want to play on it, and I was busy on other projects, but damn terminal has some file i/o error and refuses
L181[04:07:04] <AshleighTheCutie> what happened with the server?
L182[04:07:09] <AshleighTheCutie> oh
L183[04:07:20] <AshleighTheCutie> wanna play on mine?
L184[04:07:24] <Ar​iri> I updated everything, and it broke. One time I did so too smh
L185[04:07:45] <AshleighTheCutie> i have an RS system with 34.7k redstone :3
L186[04:08:01] <Ar​iri> Nah, I already had a world with stuff to do on, about 10 days of hours on it. A few people from here were on it too but since I took a break it died down
L187[04:08:52] <Ar​iri> I have over 300 channels and 2 million items in my AE2 sys rn, and a secondary stargate network + remote outposts I wanted to set up
L188[04:09:09] <AshleighTheCutie> I wonder if I could host the world for you....
L189[04:09:12] <AshleighTheCutie> hmmmm
L190[04:09:55] <Ar​iri> The backups alone went to about 50gb lol, even compressed. World size is a few gigs.
L191[04:10:14] <AshleighTheCutie> the hardest part would be transferring the world files
L192[04:10:19] <AshleighTheCutie> and modpack itself
L193[04:10:24] <Ar​iri> I'll fix the server, tonight or tommorow, I just haven't gotten time. I have a feeling its something to do with the CUPS schedule.
L194[04:10:37] <Ar​iri> That's the easy part, I already organize all the files and cloud host them
L195[04:10:56] <AshleighTheCutie> if you ever need a backup, let me know. It'll give me something to do
L196[04:11:23] <Ar​iri> I appreciate the offer
L197[04:11:46] <AshleighTheCutie> I had a FTB Revelations server start exibiting signs of world decay?
L198[04:11:46] <Ar​iri> worst comes to worst, I off-load the server files, reinstall the os and get it back up
L199[04:11:53] <Ar​iri> Ouch
L200[04:11:57] <AshleighTheCutie> like, blocks just started going missing and corruption appeared
L201[04:12:30] <AshleighTheCutie> So I took all 8 servers down and checked the disk, no errors, and I broght the ATM3 Remix server back online
L202[04:12:42] <AshleighTheCutie> all 7 others stiull offline
L203[04:13:15] <AshleighTheCutie> still dont know what happened
L204[04:14:31] <AshleighTheCutie> It didnt start happening until people got to Draconic Evolution
L205[04:15:00] <Ar​iri> What version? 1.7.10?
L206[04:15:06] <AshleighTheCutie> 1.12.2
L207[04:15:12] <Ar​iri> I had a server with DE and i went down the whole path, no issues
L208[04:15:31] <ThePi​Guy24> DE is cursed
L209[04:15:35] <AshleighTheCutie> Either the world go old enough that world decay happened, or DE caused something
L210[04:16:50] <Ar​iri> I haven’t on 1.12 yet, but one of the players on my server has and no issues
L211[04:16:57] <AshleighTheCutie> hmmm
L212[04:16:58] <Ar​iri> has used de
L213[04:17:19] <AshleighTheCutie> may be some weird edge case
L214[04:17:22] <AshleighTheCutie> idk
L215[04:17:29] <ThePi​Guy24> imma sleep now
L216[04:17:32] <ThePi​Guy24> night all
L217[04:17:45] <AshleighTheCutie> All I know is it acts like the disk is full but it's 400 GB away from being full
L218[04:17:55] <AshleighTheCutie> and it's only FEB Revelations doing it
L219[04:18:05] <AshleighTheCutie> FTB*
L220[04:18:09] <ThePi​Guy24> some disk bottleneck?
L221[04:18:22] <AshleighTheCutie> 400 MB/s is not a bottleneck
L222[04:18:32] <AshleighTheCutie> or was it 350?
L223[04:18:41] <AshleighTheCutie> eith way, it was fine for the longest time
L224[04:18:51] <AshleighTheCutie> then in about 2 days, it went south real fast
L225[04:19:37] <ThePi​Guy24> i was more thinking along the lines of maybe a disk access timeout (probably unlikely but eh)
L226[04:19:54] <AshleighTheCutie> That would appear in the logs somwwhere
L227[04:20:05] <AshleighTheCutie> or cause a disk IO error that would appear on the terminal
L228[04:20:06] <AshleighTheCutie> nothing
L229[04:21:02] <AshleighTheCutie> Disk IO on the terminal only happened once, and that was when the RAID dropped out and failed
L230[04:21:10] <ThePi​Guy24> rip
L231[04:21:20] <AshleighTheCutie> Disk IO error*
L232[04:25:26] <AshleighTheCutie> bringing the other servers up now
L233[04:25:31] <AshleighTheCutie> sans FTB Revelations
L234[04:31:03] <AshleighTheCutie> or, apperently, it's going to start anyway, regradless of the comment markers on that line in the bash script
L235[04:33:19] <Ar​iri> Oof, my array does 350mb/s max, and my drives are almost already full after a phone backup and onedrive download
L236[04:34:22] <Ar​iri> One of the portable hdds all of a sudden wont recognize in any way, despite it being stored for much of its life and it spins up, and thats the real reason I made the server
L237[04:40:05] <AshleighTheCutie> hm
L238[04:40:18] <AshleighTheCutie> that succs
L239[04:42:26] <Ocawes​ome101> so
L240[04:42:32] <AshleighTheCutie> hm?
L241[04:42:42] <Ocawes​ome101> should I call my new OS ComputOS or Monolith?
L242[04:42:56] <AshleighTheCutie> Monolith.
L243[04:43:12] <AshleighTheCutie> reminds me of HAL
L244[04:43:15] <Ocawes​ome101> that's what I was thinking too
L245[04:43:20] <Ocawes​ome101> bingo
L246[04:43:30] <Ocawes​ome101> 2001 is back :P
L247[04:43:38] <AshleighTheCutie> yee :D
L248[04:44:42] <Ocawes​ome101> that movie is w e i r d
L249[04:45:11] <AshleighTheCutie> i need to rewatch it
L250[04:45:48] <Ocawes​ome101> I watched it about a month ago for the first time
L251[04:46:12] <Ocawes​ome101> except for one or two things it could easily have been made only a few years ago
L252[04:46:53] <Ocawes​ome101> well, not counting the fact that it drags on, and on, and on, and on...
L253[04:47:32] <AshleighTheCutie> i didnt se it as dragging on tbh
L254[04:47:56] <Ocawes​ome101> I mean
L255[04:48:12] <Ocawes​ome101> maybe drags isn't the right word
L256[04:48:21] <Ocawes​ome101> it's just really slow compared to modern movies
L257[04:48:33] <Ocawes​ome101> not necessarily a bad thing though
L258[04:49:13] <Ar​iri> Even tv series had longer runtimes, its just a change in entertainment over time
L259[04:49:17] <Ar​iri> see: Star Trek TNG
L260[04:49:26] <Ocawes​ome101> fun fact: in the entire 2:44 movie, only 40 minutes of that are dialogue
L261[04:49:32] <Ocawes​ome101> the rest is music or silence
L262[04:49:41] <Ar​iri> Interesting
L263[04:49:52] <Ocawes​ome101> also the soundtrack was great
L264[04:49:53] <CompanionCube> AshleighTheCutie: iirc these days matrox is exclusively used in the niche of server 'graphics cards' that need to have bare-minimum functionality, probably for use with the BMC or whatever
L265[04:50:04] <AshleighTheCutie> oh neat to know
L266[04:50:08] <CompanionCube> i think aspeed does it too
L267[04:50:11] <AshleighTheCutie> thank you CompanionCube
L268[04:58:00] <CompanionCube> https://tedium.co/2019/04/23/matrox-graphics-history/ apparently there's more to it than that, but it does seem that they're not dead, just invisible now
L269[04:58:54] <AshleighTheCutie> hm
L270[05:02:07] <AshleighTheCutie> brb later
L271[05:03:48] <Ocawes​ome101> k
L272[05:04:25] <Ocawes​ome101> my laptop: predicts 1:10 on 10% battery
L273[05:04:28] <Ocawes​ome101> me: :O
L274[05:17:06] <AshleighTheCutie> back
L275[05:28:04] <Corded> * <Ocawes​ome101> sighs
L276[05:28:28] <Ocawes​ome101> well, somehow, OpenOS's `event` lib breaks Monolith horribly
L277[05:28:40] <Ocawes​ome101> so did my own, to be fair
L278[05:28:45] <Ocawes​ome101> no errors, event
L279[05:28:48] <Ocawes​ome101> even*
L280[05:28:53] <Ocawes​ome101> just... halts
L281[05:29:23] <AshleighTheCutie> hm
L282[05:29:25] <AshleighTheCutie> brb
L283[05:32:32] <Ocawes​ome101> k
L284[05:32:37] <Ocawes​ome101> I think I'ma go now
L285[05:32:39] <Ocawes​ome101> good night all
L286[06:04:50] <AshleighTheCutie> back
L287[06:06:10] <Izaya> CompanionCube: additionally
L288[06:06:24] <Izaya> they make exceedingly beefy many-output graphics cards
L289[06:06:37] <Izaya> for use in digital signage and stuff
L290[06:10:09] <Izaya> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/HP-HP9000-ZX6000-Itanium2-Workstation_11.jpg
L291[06:10:15] <Izaya> that's a rather aesthetic machine
L292[06:15:25] <Klea​dron> wtf is that
L293[06:15:37] <Klea​dron> that's like 2000's design crap
L294[06:16:06] <CompanionCube> Izaya: yeah that's the other stuff I learned about in the article
L295[06:16:16] <Klea​dron> don't get me wrong some of the designs in the 2000s were cool but that looks weird
L296[06:16:30] <CompanionCube> teaming up with AMD in 2014 and this year nvidia
L297[06:17:08] <Izaya> Kleadron: it seems rather impractical
L298[06:17:12] <Izaya> but it is certainly distinct
L299[06:17:41] <CompanionCube> downside is that you have to bear the flop of itanium though
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L303[07:50:35] <Forec​aster> hm
L304[07:50:56] <Forec​aster> @payonel the installer is skipping .prop, but it's copying .install
L305[07:51:10] <Forec​aster> how do I tell --skip to skip both?
L306[07:51:20] <Forec​aster> I don't know what the separator if any is
L307[07:51:32] <pay​onel> i dont think i ever added a separator 😦
L308[07:51:35] <pay​onel> i should
L309[07:51:47] <Forec​aster> I tried adding a second --skip but it only parsed one
L310[07:52:05] <pay​onel> yeah, i'm just using shell.parse, so that doesn't see multiple named args
L311[07:52:16] <pay​onel> um, for now, i would just rm the .install
L312[07:52:19] <pay​onel> sorry
L313[07:52:30] <Forec​aster> that works I guess :P
L314[07:55:33] <Forec​aster> ugh, I need to figure out a better than than IO terminal...
L315[07:55:46] <Forec​aster> it got really confusing with the terminal server
L316[07:56:08] <Forec​aster> when I tried having someone set up factory last night
L317[07:59:33] <Forec​aster> the issue is that it's the correct term and I can't think of anything else...
L318[07:59:52] <Forec​aster> ugh, I need to figure out a better name than than IO terminal... [Edited]
L319[08:00:13] <Forec​aster> maybe "IO Manager"
L320[08:33:18] <Forec​aster> @payonel also we encountered an odd little bug last night
L321[08:33:30] <pay​onel> oh?
L322[08:33:36] <Forec​aster> if you re-name a server blade in an anvil, then put it in a rack, it gets its default name back
L323[08:34:03] <ThePi​Guy24> oh thats not intentional...
L324[08:34:07] <pay​onel> hm
L325[08:40:44] <Inari> %sip
L326[08:40:45] <MichiBot> You drink a freezing unobtanium potion (New!). Inari turns into a bear crocodile until the next time they hug someone.
L327[08:44:57] <Forec​aster> ohno, bear crocodile hugs
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L332[09:30:21] <Webchat896> https://paste.dimdev.org/agumakiqaf.mccrash
L333[09:30:30] <Webchat896> having recurring issue
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L335[09:31:00] <Webchat896> was wondering if anyone could help
L336[09:32:05] <Forec​aster> ConcurrentModificationException means two mods are trying to make changes to the same block at the same time or something like that
L337[09:33:28] <Webchat896> its seems be a problem a lot of people are having on the discord im on
L338[09:33:42] <Webchat896> the recommended reporting it here to you guys
L339[09:33:51] <Webchat896> so I nominated myself to do so
L340[09:34:28] <Forec​aster> what discord
L341[09:36:08] <Forec​aster> either way I don't know what you expect us to do, there's no indication at all in that crashlog what is causing the issue
L342[09:45:16] <Z​ef> Oh in advance
L343[09:45:37] <Z​ef> Littletiles and advanced rocketry are incompatible
L344[09:45:48] <Z​ef> You will get crashes after making a rocket
L345[09:45:56] <Z​ef> (learned the hard way)
L346[09:46:11] <Z​ef> Webchat896 ^
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L348[09:47:25] <Webchat896> even if the rocket isn't made of little tiles
L349[09:47:27] <Webchat896> ?
L350[09:47:52] <Z​ef> Yes, simply hovering over the guidance computer in the gui will crash
L351[09:49:05] <Webchat896> https://paste.dimdev.org/hefetaluzi.mccrash
L352[09:49:23] <Webchat896> not sure if this one sheds anymore light
L353[09:50:31] <Webchat896> ps will speak to advancedroketry dev
L354[09:50:37] <Webchat896> see what he can do
L355[09:51:41] <Z​ef> I've reported the issue in the littletiles discord already
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L357[09:53:46] <Z​ef> https://paste.dimdev.org/inoruqesaz.mccrash
L358[09:53:54] <Z​ef> If you're really that concerned
L359[09:54:07] <Z​ef> It's an issue on littletile's side I'm pretty sure
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L364[12:52:59] <Lizzy> %tonkout
L365[12:53:00] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! Li​zzy! You beat your own previous record of 7 hours, 42 minutes and 45 seconds (By 2 hours, 42 minutes and 11 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L366[12:53:01] <MichiBot> Li​zzy has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.01 tonk points! plus 0.018 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.64656, Position #3 Need 0.11229 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L367[12:53:04] <Lizzy> YAY
L368[12:53:10] <Forec​aster> D:
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L370[14:01:30] <Lizzy> %tonk
L371[14:01:30] <MichiBot> Dogast! Li​zzy! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 1 hour, 8 minutes and 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L372[14:01:31] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 1 hour, 8 minutes and 30 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00114)
L373[14:04:24] <Amanda> oh good, my GPU hung again. :D
L374[14:04:50] <Amanda> Oh well, guess I'm due for my weekly update
L375[14:06:11] <Kristo​pher38> %discord
L376[14:06:12] <MichiBot> Kristo​​pher38: https://discord.gg/0hVukoQ2KYm2aoXh
L377[14:08:03] <Amanda> I love when a game's community manager is humourous about their own game: https://twitter.com/SatisfactoryAF/status/1257974251623153665
L378[14:08:04] <MichiBot> Wed May 06 05:03:28 CDT 2020 @SatisfactoryAF: Satisfactory <https://t.co/2luVtbwBEm&gt;
L379[14:12:34] <Amanda> whoop, update's done, brb
L380[14:15:59] <Depres​sed Cat> Hola. I need a bit of help over here. Is this the right Channel to ask?
L381[14:16:22] <Forec​aster> we don't do people's taxes I'm afraid
L382[14:16:28] <Lizzy> if it's with OC, sure
L383[14:17:01] <Depres​sed Cat> I dont do Taxes either. Anyways. Im trying to understand the Forestry Functions.
L384[14:19:07] <Forec​aster> you're gonna have to ask a specific question
L385[14:19:55] <Depres​sed Cat> So. Im trying to see a Bees Traits and found out that a Function called "getIndividualOnDisplay" exists. How does it work and why does mine only output nil.
L386[14:20:36] <Forec​aster> check it in the lua prompt and see if it has any documentation
L387[14:20:59] <Depres​sed Cat> I've got no clue what that means.
L388[14:21:43] <Forec​aster> open the lua prompt and type `component.whateverthecomponentis.thefunction`
L389[14:22:04] <Depres​sed Cat> Yeah. Exactly that gives out nil.
L390[14:22:04] <Forec​aster> if the function has documentation it will print it
L391[14:22:24] <Forec​aster> then the function doesn't exist
L392[14:23:12] <Depres​sed Cat> But i see it in the Forestry Integration Thing..
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L394[14:27:18] <Forec​aster> take a screenshot of what you're doing
L395[14:28:13] <Depres​sed Cat> http://tinyurl.com/yao8x8qk
L396[14:28:15] <Depres​sed Cat> http://tinyurl.com/y8auqssu
L397[14:28:30] <Depres​sed Cat> http://tinyurl.com/y96byocy
L398[14:28:47] <Forec​aster> that's not what I wrote
L399[14:28:59] <Depres​sed Cat> Welp.
L400[14:29:05] <Forec​aster> type exactly what I wrote
L401[14:29:09] <Forec​aster> no ()
L402[14:29:21] <Depres​sed Cat> http://tinyurl.com/y72elflg
L403[14:29:33] <Depres​sed Cat> That?
L404[14:29:41] <Forec​aster> yeah
L405[14:30:01] <Forec​aster> I guess there isn't a bee present then
L406[14:30:06] <Forec​aster> and the middle slot is empty
L407[14:30:34] <Depres​sed Cat> The middle Slot is the Analyzing. If a Bee is analyzed, it gets moved to the right.
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L409[14:45:12] <Eve​ryOS> At some point I have to finish Ribbon
L410[14:45:12] <Eve​ryOS> Haven
L411[14:45:21] <Eve​ryOS> 't worked on it in a while
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L415[15:02:11] <anderchirke> hello
L416[15:02:25] <anderchirke> anybody here?
L417[15:04:20] <Eve​ryOS> Yea
L418[15:06:33] <murlocking> How do you see the index of entries in a table ?
L419[15:09:02] <Forec​aster> what do you mean "see"?
L420[15:09:50] <murlocking> list them
L421[15:10:14] <M​GR> You could try doing Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/figawadequ
L422[15:10:17] <murlocking> Or maybe there's a documentiation
L423[15:10:31] <Forec​aster> needs and end, but yeah, that
L424[15:10:36] <M​GR> You could try doing Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/osesiciluf [Edited]
L425[15:12:17] <anderchirke> thk
L426[15:13:11] <Forec​aster> @Depressed Cat have you tried calling the function when there's a bee in the middle slot?
L427[15:14:42] <anderchirke> Do you know aoligay?
L428[15:15:47] <Forec​aster> no
L429[15:17:57] <anderchirke> That's a superstar in Chinese
L430[15:18:39] <Forec​aster> that would be why then
L431[15:22:30] <anderchirke> hey body?
L432[15:23:00] <anderchirke> Can you here me ?
L433[15:23:24] <Depres​sed Cat> I did, it gives me atleast some info, but it can't give what i need since its not analyzed.
L434[15:24:02] <Forec​aster> maybe there's a different function to get the ones in the "done" slots
L435[15:25:47] <Depres​sed Cat> There's only 3 functions for the analyzer. isWorking, getProgress and the one I'm using.
L436[15:27:40] <anderchirke> sry my Engish is poor
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L438[15:29:58] <mid_bread> hello?
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L443[15:35:54] <Amanda> @payonel OC2 wishlist item: The component <-> arch abstraction should have some standardised representation of iterators. Lua would see them as iterator functions, and it'd let users scan through insanely-large lists of data in a memory-safe way. ( I.E., all the items in avery large AE network )
L444[15:40:40] <AshleighTheCutie> or RS network
L445[15:45:35] <B​ob> RS bad, AE2 good
L446[15:50:13] <murlocking> I'm using MC 1.7.10 and my robots and computers keeps giving me this error after a server has closed and restarted.
L447[15:50:13] <murlocking> 'Unrecoverable Error, Computer Halted'
L448[15:50:33] <Amanda> update OC to 1.7.5
L449[15:51:05] <murlocking> Alright, will try updating. :) thanks !
L450[15:51:32] <murlocking> Need to disassemble the robot now, hopefully nothing breaks.
L451[15:55:10] <Inari> OC2 wishlist item: make microcontrollers actuall yuseufl
L452[15:57:30] <Inari> %splash Amanda
L453[15:57:31] <MichiBot> You fling a salty dalekanium potion (New!) that splashes onto Amanda. A Copper spear appears next to Amanda.
L454[15:57:35] * Inari runs
L455[15:57:43] <Inari> Whats with those potions and giving weapons to people D:
L456[15:58:25] <Amanda> %fling spear at Inari
L457[15:58:25] <MichiBot> Ama​nda flings spear in a random direction. It hits In​ari on the left hand. They take 1d4 => 1 damage!
L458[15:58:33] <Inari> ouch D:
L459[15:58:52] <SquidDev> %tonk
L460[15:58:52] <MichiBot> By my throth! Squi​dDev! You beat Li​zzy's previous record of 1 hour, 8 minutes and 30 seconds (By 48 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L461[15:58:53] <MichiBot> SquidDev's new record is 1 hour, 57 minutes and 21 seconds! SquidDev also gained 0.00162 (0.00081 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #6. Need 0.04933 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
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L463[16:02:34] <collapsible> wocchat
L464[16:02:53] <collapsible> collapsible
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L467[16:05:33] <murlocking> %splash Inari
L468[16:05:34] <MichiBot> You fling a light quicksilver potion (New!) that splashes onto Inari. Inari feels slightly less agile.
L469[16:05:39] <Inari> Hey D:
L470[16:05:43] <murlocking> lol
L471[16:06:26] <Eve​ryOS> Wow, Michi has been around for quite a long time http://tinyurl.com/y889kw6d
L472[16:06:29] <murlocking> %rest
L473[16:06:38] <Eve​ryOS> http://tinyurl.com/yaofee8b
L474[16:09:30] <murlocking> %drink boiling orange potion
L475[16:09:30] <MichiBot> You drink a boiling orange potion (New!). murlocking reboots for an update for 3 minutes.
L476[16:09:49] <murlocking> Nooooo, Windows 10!! Curse you !
L477[16:11:39] <Forec​aster> certain items are from before there was a timestamp :P
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L479[16:17:44] <Forec​aster> %sip
L480[16:17:44] <MichiBot> You drink a sour quicksilver potion (New!). Forec​aster feels like one particular wasp has it out for them suddenly.
L481[16:17:52] <Forec​aster> oh dear
L482[16:19:35] <Eve​ryOS> Michi is a liar http://tinyurl.com/ybl5w3ow
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L485[16:22:05] <SquidDev> Is the bridge being flaky right now?
L486[16:22:19] <collapsible> wocchat
L487[16:22:29] <collapsible> coolasible
L488[16:22:42] <Krae​tzin> Are robots supposed to gain experience from trading with villagers? I can't seem to find a way for them to pick up the resulting experience from trades.
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L490[16:22:59] <Forec​aster> does it have an experience upgrade?
L491[16:23:06] <Krae​tzin> Of course
L492[16:23:37] <Krae​tzin> I have the experience upgrade in an upgrade containers so I can monitor it more easily from the GUI
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L495[16:24:15] <joao​adao> hello guys
L496[16:24:31] <AshleighTheTablet> henlo
L497[16:24:34] <joao​adao> long time i dont talk whit yall
L498[16:24:37] <Krae​tzin> My robot seems to have gained a TINY amount of experience from doing this (7.89e-4) but the experience orbs are all on the ground
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L500[16:24:57] <Forec​aster> I've never used the xp upgrade
L501[16:25:04] <Forec​aster> does it have a function to suck up xp orbs?
L502[16:25:11] <Krae​tzin> Calling robot.suck() does nothing either
L503[16:25:22] <Krae​tzin> No, only one function and that's to return current experience
L504[16:25:47] <Krae​tzin> I've had no problems with leveling my robots through mining
L505[16:26:00] <Krae​tzin> They change colour as expected, etc
L506[16:27:10] <Krae​tzin> It will be a shame to waste all this experience when it is doing automated trading
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L508[16:30:00] <joao​adao> > Calling robot.suck() does nothing either
L509[16:30:01] <joao​adao> that sounded very very strange xD
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L511[16:31:10] <AshleighTheCutie> henlo
L512[16:31:15] <AshleighTheCutie> im bacc
L513[16:31:24] <Krae​tzin> I'll open an issue on Github
L514[16:31:31] <joao​adao> you type wrong on purpose?
L515[16:31:47] <AshleighTheCutie> what happened that's a bug?
L516[16:32:08] <AshleighTheCutie> joaoadao: sometimes, yes.
L517[16:32:48] <Krae​tzin> Every other thing that robots do that gives experience allows them to level up, as far as I'm aware
L518[16:32:55] <Krae​tzin> So I'd guess it's a bug
L519[16:33:39] <Krae​tzin> I was hoping to rotate experience upgrades from my traders to my miners
L520[16:34:07] <AshleighTheCutie> Kraetzin: hmm
L521[16:34:59] <AshleighTheCutie> wouldnt that reset the experience gained?
L522[16:37:42] <Krae​tzin> No, the upgrade keeps the experience
L523[16:37:53] <AshleighTheCutie> hm
L524[16:37:58] <Krae​tzin> The robot "loses" its levels until you insert it back
L525[16:38:36] <AshleighTheCutie> hm
L526[16:38:38] <AshleighTheCutie> TIL
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L529[17:02:12] <B​ob> if you have EIO, it has an experience vacuum but its weird the robot doesnt store the xp
L530[17:04:19] <AshleighTheCutie> hm
L531[17:04:24] <Krae​tzin> No EIO or other experience storage in this pack unfortunately
L532[17:04:52] <Krae​tzin> It'd be nice to be able to extract stored experience from the upgrade, but that's a different issue 😛
L533[17:05:35] <B​ob> isn't xp usually stored as a liquid
L534[17:05:49] <Krae​tzin> Not in the xp upgrade
L535[17:06:10] <Krae​tzin> And not unless you have mods adding liquid xp
L536[17:06:30] <AshleighTheCutie> no, Forge has LXP if i'm not mistaken
L537[17:06:45] <AshleighTheCutie> brb
L538[17:08:25] <Ocawes​ome101> ayy, got a working minitel service (I think) in Monolith
L539[17:09:30] <AshleighTheCutie> Where can I DL Monolith?
L540[17:09:36] <AshleighTheCutie> or is it not public yet
L541[17:11:35] <Ocawes​ome101> it's not public yet
L542[17:11:42] <AshleighTheCutie> aww
L543[17:11:45] <Ocawes​ome101> I want to get the rest of the basic shell commands in place
L544[17:11:50] <AshleighTheCutie> ah
L545[17:11:54] <Ocawes​ome101> but it will be published soon(tm)
L546[17:13:56] <Ocawes​ome101> heck, I don't even have a Lua prompt yet
L547[17:14:01] <Ocawes​ome101> I've got a shell but no Lua prompt
L548[17:19:04] <SquidDev> while true do assert(loadstring(io.read"*l"))() end There you go :p.
L549[17:21:59] <Ocawes​ome101> heh
L550[17:22:04] <Ocawes​ome101> this is Lua 5.3
L551[17:22:06] <Ocawes​ome101> no loadstring
L552[17:22:18] <B​ob> load should work or ?
L553[17:22:35] <Ocawes​ome101> yeah
L554[17:22:54] <Ocawes​ome101> I want something a little bit more advanced than that :P
L555[17:23:24] <SquidDev> https://irc.squiddev.cc/uploads/36f2815201df083b/image.png Arch's build of Lua 5.3 is _weird_.
L556[17:28:33] * Inari weirds SquidDev
L557[17:28:37] <Inari> %sip
L558[17:28:38] <fingercomp> it's just compiled with LUA_COMPAT_5_1
L559[17:28:38] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy sky potion (New!). Inari turns into a pig toad boy for 4 hours.
L560[17:28:47] <Inari> Ew
L561[17:28:52] <fingercomp> much unlike OC, which doesn't even have Lua 5.2 compatibility option enabled
L562[17:29:34] <Inari> OC can switch archs, so it doesn't have to
L563[17:29:35] <Inari> :)
L564[17:30:03] <SquidDev> Yeah. Though compat with 5.1 is odd, as it's something you have to opt in to. I haven't seen other distros do it.
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L567[17:56:21] <AshleighTheCutie> hm
L568[17:56:33] <AshleighTheCutie> the tablet is full on energy, but wont start because not enough energy
L569[17:57:13] <Amanda> the durability indicator is busted in 1.12
L570[17:57:27] <AshleighTheCutie> i even have a resonant flux capicator in my inventory
L571[17:57:27] <Amanda> it doesn't update as often as it should
L572[17:57:44] <Amanda> tablets don't charge from those by default, which is why I made OpenTablets. :D
L573[17:58:00] <AshleighTheCutie> is that a serverside only mod?
L574[17:58:15] <Amanda> no idea if it'll even work with sservers yet, havn't gotten around to testing
L575[17:58:32] <AshleighTheCutie> yu should do that
L576[17:58:49] <Amanda> but no, it'll require both sides for full functionality.
L577[17:58:56] <AshleighTheCutie> i would, but cant afford the downtime
L578[17:59:02] <AshleighTheCutie> i cant use it then
L579[17:59:14] <Amanda> It also adds the ability to trigger tablet_use via middle-click
L580[17:59:49] <AshleighTheCutie> several of my people I have on the servr barely were able to import my copy of ATM3 Remix into MMC, so adding a mod is over their heads
L581[18:00:14] <AshleighTheCutie> all I need s the ability to charge from flux capicators
L582[18:01:17] <AshleighTheCutie> if it can run serverside only and give that ability, I'll add it
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L586[18:10:41] <Amanda> Let's see, if it's not that hard to do, I'll do it
L587[18:27:04] <Eve​ryOS> What's this? http://tinyurl.com/ycxjdlp6
L588[18:28:08] <Sagh​etti> all nicknames
L589[18:28:50] <Eve​ryOS> It doesn't have mine
L590[18:29:28] <Sagh​etti> you've never logged onto the IRC then
L591[18:30:00] <Eve​ryOS> I have
L592[18:30:24] <Eve​ryOS> Maybe I missed it. I don't have wordsearch
L593[18:30:35] <Michiyo> it was pulled once, it's not an active sync... it's only needed if you have multiple IRC nicks you want linked.
L594[18:31:01] <Michiyo> so if you have EveryOS and Every_OS and it doesn't link them automatically you can force it to
L595[18:31:17] <Eve​ryOS> Ah, ok
L596[18:31:25] <Amanda> What's that from?
L597[18:31:38] <Michiyo> the stats script pulls a copy of that file every time it runs to match nicks
L598[18:32:05] <Michiyo> Amanda, https://github.com/CaitlynMainer/OCNicks
L599[18:32:38] <Amanda> ah
L600[18:34:18] <SquidDev> %tonkout
L601[18:34:18] <MichiBot> Waesucks! Squi​dDev! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 57 minutes and 21 seconds (By 17 minutes and 52 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L602[18:34:19] <MichiBot> Squi​dDev has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.25924, Position #6 Need 0.04533 more points to pass ThePi​Guy24!
L603[18:34:43] <Lizzy> %tonk
L604[18:34:43] <MichiBot> By my throth! Li​zzy! You beat Squi​dDev's previous record of <0 (By 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L605[18:34:44] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 24 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00001 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.11228 more points to pass Forec​aster!
L606[18:36:06] <Eve​ryOS> %tonk
L607[18:36:40] <Eve​ryOS> Nice, can't participate in tonking no more
L608[18:37:01] <Forec​aster> there's a 15 minute cooldown on the command
L609[18:37:06] <Eve​ryOS> Oh, ok
L610[18:39:12] <Eve​ryOS> I should talk more so I can get onto the stats list
L611[18:40:18] <Amanda> Well, OpenTablets hasn't killed the dedicated server yet.
L612[18:41:43] <Forec​aster> yet...
L613[18:41:45] <Forec​aster> o3o
L614[18:44:56] <Eve​ryOS> Yesterday I was playing the new DBL server
L615[18:44:56] <Eve​ryOS> I made a Lua Bios and a few Tier 3 Microchips
L616[18:44:56] <Eve​ryOS> That was the first time I attempted to interact with OC from survival, I usually use OC in creative
L617[18:46:00] <Eve​ryOS> I need to find some green dye next, to make a printed circuit board. I have all of the other parts I need to make a teir 3 case.
L618[18:47:26] <Eve​ryOS> Oh, OpenOS is craftable, I was worried it would be a loot item
L619[18:48:21] <Amanda> every loot disk is, scrench the openos disk
L620[18:48:31] <Amanda> rather, scrench + loot disk in the crafting grid
L621[18:49:43] <Eve​ryOS> Oh, cool
L622[18:52:08] <Amanda> ... why is tcon trying to load awt!?
L623[18:54:06] * Amanda sighs, changes her launch-server.sh to use openjdk8 instead of openjdk8_headless
L624[18:57:52] <t20kdc> The whole of AWT, or just BufferedImage?
L625[18:58:03] <Amanda> Appears to be trying to get a Color class
L626[18:58:15] <Forec​aster> hm, what would be the easiest way to take a modem_message and pass on an arbitrary number of arguments
L627[18:58:19] <Eve​ryOS> I'm trying to figure out how the IRC bridge displays custom usernames and pfps
L628[18:58:19] <Eve​ryOS> My best guess is that @Corded has the "Manage Webhooks" permission, and that it creates a new webhook for each user
L629[18:58:35] <Forec​aster> no
L630[18:58:40] <Forec​aster> it uses one webhook
L631[18:58:55] <t20kdc> EveryOS: Clicking on one of the avatars of a previous message will show the avatar for the latest message.
L632[18:59:04] <Amanda> slimeknights.tconstruct.library.client.CustomFontColor.valueToColorCode(CustomFontColor.java:46)
L633[18:59:10] <Forec​aster> and name
L634[18:59:28] <Forec​aster> @payonel halp
L635[18:59:32] <Eve​ryOS> Ah, ok
L636[18:59:33] <Eve​ryOS> So it's just changing the pfp of a single webhook before sending a new message?
L637[18:59:33] <t20kdc> Amanda: Certainly odd that client code would be loaded on the server...
L638[18:59:41] <Amanda> t20kdc: yup...
L639[19:00:05] <Michiyo> @EveryOS you can specify the avatar in the webhook.
L640[19:00:10] <Michiyo> @EveryOS so... I do.
L641[19:00:19] <Eve​ryOS> Oh, ok, didn't realize that
L642[19:00:23] <Eve​ryOS> That's cool
L643[19:00:37] <Michiyo> Yeah, when you call the webhook you give PFP, Name, Message, embeds etc
L644[19:00:44] <Michiyo> so on every call I set what I need.
L645[19:01:17] <SquidDev> It's a real shame normal bots don't have support for that to.
L646[19:01:17] <Michiyo> anything you don't specify is sent as default, so if I didn't specify a pic it'd be the webhook avatar set in the server
L647[19:01:18] <SquidDev> *too.
L648[19:01:24] <Forec​aster> oh... hm
L649[19:01:34] <Forec​aster> the tunnel doesn't let you specify the port
L650[19:01:41] <Eve​ryOS> I have my own bot that links chats
L651[19:01:41] <Eve​ryOS> But it doesn't use webhooks, so everything just shows the bot's name and pfp
L652[19:02:08] <Michiyo> Corded can fall back to non webhook messaging, I usually do when Discord's API is dying
L653[19:02:14] <Michiyo> but it's ugly :p
L654[19:03:33] <Eve​ryOS> My chat system looks like this http://tinyurl.com/y9ssdhzf
L655[19:03:44] <Eve​ryOS> It doesn't use webhooks
L656[19:03:54] <Eve​ryOS> So it just has the bot pfp and nane
L657[19:03:58] <Eve​ryOS> *namw
L658[19:04:01] <Eve​ryOS> *name
L659[19:04:25] <pay​onel> @Forecaster sup
L660[19:04:57] <Forec​aster> I was wondering something, but upon further testing it seems relays don't actually pass on tunnel messages at all
L661[19:05:16] <Forec​aster> even though they flash when receiving them
L662[19:05:35] <Forec​aster> I'm not sure what is happening actually
L663[19:06:02] <Forec​aster> messages are happening in some fashion, but dmesg isn't picking up anything
L664[19:06:16] <pay​onel> tunnel messages?
L665[19:06:51] <Forec​aster> I was going to have the factories connect to the master server via a linked card tunnel
L666[19:07:14] <Forec​aster> so I stuffed a linked card into a relay, assuming it would pass on any network messages as if it was a wireless card
L667[19:07:38] <Forec​aster> and it seemed to because any linked relays were flashing when messages were sent on the networks
L668[19:08:04] <Forec​aster> but upon further inspection the relay apparently doesn't translate the tunnel message back into a network broadcast afterwards
L669[19:08:24] <Forec​aster> and I realize the tunnel doesn't let you specify the port anyway, so it'd loose that regardless
L670[19:08:36] <Forec​aster> but it's strange that they're flashing as if they're doing something isn't it
L671[19:08:43] <AshleighTheCutie> hm
L672[19:08:46] <AshleighTheCutie> good to know
L673[19:08:51] <Amanda> Well, OpenTablets got to pre-init without exploding the server...
L674[19:08:51] <AshleighTheCutie> possibly a bug
L675[19:08:58] <AshleighTheCutie> oh cool
L676[19:09:25] <AshleighTheCutie> hey, uh
L677[19:09:26] <Forec​aster> well it makes sense when the tunnel doesn't know about ports, and without a port you can't have a modem message
L678[19:09:57] <Forec​aster> I guess you meant the flashing
L679[19:10:07] <Forec​aster> but it means it has to be receiving something which is strange...
L680[19:10:21] <Forec​aster> and the queue counter goes up, then goes back down as well
L681[19:10:22] <AshleighTheCutie> thats's why I think it not working is a bug
L682[19:10:30] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so
L683[19:10:41] <pay​onel> @Forecaster i was "afk" for work, back now. ready your response
L684[19:10:45] <Amanda> oh... thta's why it's so slow. Turns out, lilac only has 3.8G of ram. :D
L685[19:10:55] <Forec​aster> and the queue size goes up to 1 and back down to 0 as well
L686[19:10:55] <AshleighTheCutie> lilac?
L687[19:11:06] <Amanda> the VM I'm trying the dedicated server on
L688[19:11:10] <AshleighTheCutie> oh
L689[19:11:14] <Forec​aster> even if it's just a lone relay with a linked card in it
L690[19:11:31] <Forec​aster> so it's receiving something from the tunnel
L691[19:11:38] <AshleighTheCutie> defo a bug of some sort
L692[19:11:56] <AshleighTheCutie> it seems like it should work fine tbh
L693[19:12:01] <Amanda> Well, I removed OpenTablets from my client, so we'll see what happens whenever the server's up.
L694[19:12:05] <Amanda> Aftr this I'mma reboot it with more RAM
L695[19:12:16] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> as it turns out
L696[19:12:21] <AshleighTheCutie> if it's flasing, there is clearly some code in OC that is interpreting something
L697[19:12:40] <AshleighTheCutie> so it not working the way you think it should may be a bug
L698[19:12:53] <pay​onel> @Forecaster so machine+relay[link] ---- relay[link]+machine, and the remote machine dmesg doesn't show the link signals? and the remote replay is flashing?
L699[19:13:24] <Forec​aster> essentially
L700[19:13:51] <Forec​aster> it's worth noting that none of the messages are directed at the tunnel or remote machine in any way
L701[19:14:02] <Forec​aster> they're just broadcasts that the first relay is forwarding
L702[19:14:31] <Forec​aster> I might have to create custom relays for this to work around this issue
L703[19:15:29] <Forec​aster> by which I mean microcontrollers of course
L704[19:15:37] <Forec​aster> dammit Vexatoast was right
L705[19:15:39] <Forec​aster> >:
L706[19:16:27] <Forec​aster> @payonel my original question was going to be "how do you capture arbitrary arguments from a table?"
L707[19:17:08] <pay​onel> `tablename[arbitraryargument]` ? 🙂
L708[19:17:11] <Forec​aster> eg I want to do `local event, receiver, sender, port, distance, data = computer.pullSignal(1)`, but I want `data` to contain "the rest of the return table" essentially
L709[19:17:17] <pay​onel> ah
L710[19:17:24] <Forec​aster> is there a way to do that without a for loop
L711[19:17:30] <pay​onel> oh definitely
L712[19:17:57] <pay​onel> i takes 2 lines though
L713[19:18:02] <Forec​aster> that's fine
L714[19:18:11] <pay​onel> `local pack = table.pack(computer.pullSignal(1))`
L715[19:18:38] <pay​onel> `local a, b, c, d = table.unpack(pack, 1, pack.n)`
L716[19:18:40] <pay​onel> ok three lines
L717[19:19:03] <AshleighTheCutie> Forecaster: if you make custom microcontroller code that uses MCUs as tunnel to modem do let me know
L718[19:19:13] <pay​onel> `pack = table.pack(select(4, table.unpack(pack, 1, pack.n))`
L719[19:19:33] <pay​onel> select(5 *
L720[19:19:42] <pay​onel> stupid 1-based arrays
L721[19:20:02] <Forec​aster> missed a ) there
L722[19:20:03] <Forec​aster> :P
L723[19:20:06] <immibis> I usually just do: local evt = {computer.pullSignal(1)}
L724[19:20:10] <pay​onel> )
L725[19:20:10] <Amanda> OC2 will use 0-based arrays, then? :P
L726[19:20:15] * Amanda flees
L727[19:20:15] <pay​onel> no
L728[19:20:17] <AshleighTheCutie> what Lua string/command do I use to check the energy in a tablet
L729[19:20:24] <pay​onel> @amanda no 🙂
L730[19:20:34] <pay​onel> @immibis i always pack because nil
L731[19:20:38] <Amanda> AshleighTheCutie: `computer.energy()~
L732[19:20:41] <Vexaton> @Forecaster not sure what exactly your setup is like, but tunnels and network cards are literally the same thing internally, and a relay treats them the same
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L734[19:21:06] <Forec​aster> Vexatos they're not though
L735[19:21:14] <Vexatos> two relays with tunnels should just work as if you had two network cards in them and a cable
L736[19:21:17] <Forec​aster> the tunnel just has ".send(data:string)
L737[19:21:20] <Forec​aster> the tunnel just has ".send(data:string)" [Edited]
L738[19:21:51] <Forec​aster> it doesn't know what a port is
L739[19:21:55] <Vexatos> well yea because it is always peer to peer
L740[19:22:04] <Vexatos> If that is your problem, then yea you'll need custom routing
L741[19:22:19] <Forec​aster> yeah... but if there's no port the remote relay can't re-broadcast the message
L742[19:22:24] <immibis> I think relays are SUPPOSED to work with tunnel cards
L743[19:22:28] <immibis> that doesn't mean they actually do
L744[19:22:51] <AshleighTheCutie> so it IS a bug
L745[19:23:47] <Forec​aster> oh wait, you can't pass a table to modem.broadcast anyway...
L746[19:24:11] <AshleighTheCutie> oooof
L747[19:24:15] <pay​onel> @Forecaster i just tested with link cards, and vex is right, this should work
L748[19:24:16] <pay​onel> and it does
L749[19:24:25] <AshleighTheCutie> hm
L750[19:24:28] <AshleighTheCutie> good to know then
L751[19:24:33] <AshleighTheCutie> i shall remember this
L752[19:24:34] <Vexatos> yea you cannot send nested packets I don't think forecaster
L753[19:24:45] <Vexatos> only strings and numbers and bools
L754[19:24:48] <AshleighTheCutie> does it work with one link card in a computer and one in a relay?
L755[19:24:50] <Vexatos> ...I think
L756[19:25:27] <Forec​aster> you are right, it errors if you pass it a table
L757[19:25:37] <Forec​aster> @payonel works how? with what setup?
L758[19:25:40] <Forec​aster> not the one I specified
L759[19:25:41] <Vexatos> openos has a serialization lib
L760[19:25:42] <Vexatos> if you want
L761[19:25:54] <Amanda> %choose wait for it to finish on <half the recommended?
L762[19:25:55] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I'd advice against "wait for it to finish on <half the recommended?" right now.
L763[19:25:58] <Vexatos> require("serialization").serialize and .unserialize
L764[19:26:03] <Amanda> sigh, brb then
L765[19:26:08] <Forec​aster> I know how serialization works
L766[19:26:16] <Forec​aster> but I can't do that if I want a generalized relay
L767[19:26:17] <pay​onel> case[network]+relay[link] <---> relay[link]+case[network]
L768[19:26:39] <AshleighTheCutie> hmmm
L769[19:26:57] <AshleighTheCutie> payonel: can you test to see if you can have one of the link cards just in a computer instead?
L770[19:27:10] <Vexatos> AshleighTheCutie, that's not what forecaster wants
L771[19:27:11] <Forec​aster> the setup is more like computer[modem]-->relay[tunnel]--->relay[tunnel]--->compute[modem]
L772[19:27:17] <AshleighTheCutie> im just curious
L773[19:27:28] <Vexatos> @Forecaster that is the same setup though?
L774[19:27:35] <pay​onel> first of all, modem is the component name for network card, wireless t1 card, and wireless t2 card
L775[19:27:36] <AshleighTheCutie> it is the same setup, i think
L776[19:27:42] <pay​onel> so i was being specific, i'm using a network card
L777[19:27:53] <Forec​aster> I know
L778[19:27:54] <pay​onel> secondly, tunnel is not a card, but is a "linked card"
L779[19:27:58] <pay​onel> again, i was trying to be specific
L780[19:28:11] <Forec​aster> I used the component names in an attempt to clarify
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L782[19:28:53] <pay​onel> anyways, what am i missing then? your setup example is the same as far as i'm reading it
L783[19:29:05] <Forec​aster> and it works for you but it's not working for me
L784[19:29:20] <Vexatos> maybe I should join your test server :^)
L785[19:29:26] <Forec​aster> like I said the relays are flashing, but the remote computer isn't receiving anything
L786[19:29:26] <Vexatos> or payo
L787[19:29:33] <pay​onel> i was going to offer to join as well
L788[19:29:40] <Forec​aster> well I'm about to start a dnd session in a minute
L789[19:29:45] <Vexatos> you're just running dmesg on the receiving server?
L790[19:29:50] <pay​onel> did you open your modem port?
L791[19:29:52] <Forec​aster> yes
L792[19:29:52] <Vexatos> and you have the port open?
L793[19:30:11] <Forec​aster> oh, that might be it xD
L794[19:30:15] <Forec​aster> I'm not sure actually
L795[19:30:15] <Vexatos> >_<
L796[19:30:21] <pay​onel> <_>
L797[19:30:35] <Forec​aster> since the factory uses the terminal addresses as ports they may not mesh with the ports I've opened
L798[19:30:38] <Vexatos> you can imagine relays with tunnels doing VPS-like stuff to transmit the package
L799[19:30:42] <Vexatos> VPN*
L800[19:30:44] <Forec​aster> I will check later
L801[19:30:53] <Vexatos> like a relay transmits a packet as is
L802[19:31:01] <Vexatos> leaving destination and port intact
L803[19:31:52] <Forec​aster> hm, but I don't know if I can do that in a mcu...
L804[19:32:07] <Vexatos> you cannot
L805[19:32:17] <Vexatos> you would need an MCU on either side
L806[19:32:17] <Forec​aster> that ruins my plan :|
L807[19:32:23] <Vexatos> one to translate and one to reverse translate
L808[19:32:33] <Vexatos> UNLESS you have a spoofing card
L809[19:32:35] <Vexatos> in the MCU
L810[19:32:35] <Vexatos> :^)
L811[19:33:56] <Vexatos> I just remembered I had that
L812[19:33:57] <Vexatos> heh
L813[19:34:05] <Vexatos> it could solve all™ your problems
L814[19:34:13] <Forec​aster> I don't care about the address
L815[19:34:24] <Vexatos> then what do you care about
L816[19:34:25] <Forec​aster> none of my networking uses addresses
L817[19:34:29] <Forec​aster> the port
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L819[19:34:37] <AshleighTheCutie> do remote terminals bounce through relays
L820[19:34:38] <Vexatos> but you can definitely do that with the MCU .-.
L821[19:35:03] <Vexatos> just have the MCU open on the port it received from, rebroadcast, then close the port again
L822[19:35:04] <Vexatos> OR
L823[19:35:08] <Vexatos> if you want to be more efficient
L824[19:35:16] <Vexatos> keep ports open until you are at max open ports
L825[19:35:22] <Vexatos> then close the least recently used one
L826[19:35:39] <max> hi i am max open ports
L827[19:35:42] <Vexatos> that way often used ports would just stay open
L828[19:35:45] <Vexatos> max pls
L829[19:35:49] <max> hweh
L830[19:36:24] <Forec​aster> well, the most annoying part is how do re-broadcast the data arguments
L831[19:36:36] <Forec​aster> I need a finite amount of variables to hold them
L832[19:36:46] <Forec​aster> but ... doesn't have a limit does it?
L833[19:37:21] <Forec​aster> which means if someone broadcast `data1, data2, data3, data4` but I only anticipated the first 2 in my code then 3 and 4 would be dropped
L834[19:37:41] <Vexatos> oh that is easy
L835[19:37:45] <Forec​aster> probably a non-issue, but it annoys me
L836[19:37:59] <Vexatos> local entireEvent = {event.pul("modem_message")}
L837[19:38:04] <Vexatos> or table.pack() whatever
L838[19:38:20] <Vexatos> something like that?
L839[19:38:38] <Vexatos> then on the other side modem.send(table.unpack(entireEvent))
L840[19:38:53] <Forec​aster> I need to look at pack/unpack
L841[19:39:05] <Forec​aster> never heard of that before payonel showed it earlier
L842[19:39:16] <pay​onel> didn't i just show you how to pack/unpack like 10min ago? 🙂
L843[19:39:19] <pay​onel> ah
L844[19:39:20] <pay​onel> 🙂
L845[19:39:26] <Ocawes​ome101> They are ridiculously useful
L846[19:39:47] <AshleighTheCutie> link cards do NOT work in relays for me
L847[19:40:12] <pay​onel> @AshleighTheCutie got a server you'd like me to join?
L848[19:40:25] <Forec​aster> did you open the right ports? :P
L849[19:40:41] <Forec​aster> I don't know what kind of idiot would forget such a thing coughs
L850[19:40:55] <Forec​aster> anyway, time for dnd
L851[19:40:57] <pay​onel> hahah
L852[19:40:57] <Vexatos> imagine having firewall by default
L853[19:41:06] * Vexatos looks at work machines that had no ufw installed when I got here
L854[19:41:14] <AshleighTheCutie> @payonel: yuukihost.bounceme.net:25575, ATM3 Remix 1.5.3
L855[19:41:17] <Vexatos> (on public IPv4)
L856[19:41:27] <AshleighTheCutie> anyone id free to join, btw
L857[19:41:31] <AshleighTheCutie> is*
L858[19:41:43] <pay​onel> vex: irl, there is no vunerability unless something is reading the packets / binds to a port
L859[19:42:09] <Vexatos> thing is it does
L860[19:42:15] <pay​onel> firewalls are way over emphasized for situations they dont provide any securiy
L861[19:42:18] <Vexatos> they are all communicating with one another over those ports
L862[19:43:02] <AshleighTheCutie> payonel: you gonna join?
L863[19:43:24] <pay​onel> i have to find the pack
L864[19:43:28] <pay​onel> i use only mmmc
L865[19:43:32] <pay​onel> i have technic here i think..
L866[19:43:38] <pay​onel> mmmmmmc
L867[19:43:46] <AshleighTheCutie> hang on a sec, IRC machine just wigged out
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L869[19:43:58] <Ocawes​ome101> I’ve never really done much with networking outside of Photon’s bad FTP protocol and the Minitel thing I implemented for Monolith
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L871[19:44:04] <AshleighTheCutie> back
L872[19:44:50] <pay​onel> downloading atm3 remix
L873[19:44:56] <Amanda> Soooo many "potentially dangerous alternative prefix..." messages in forge..
L874[19:45:02] <AshleighTheCutie> make sure you get 1.5.3, not the latest
L875[19:45:59] <pay​onel> right....
L876[19:48:21] <AshleighTheCutie> I heard there were a lot of mod rejections, so I didnt update
L877[19:48:43] <pay​onel> hm, i wonder why a mod was rejected
L878[19:49:11] <AshleighTheCutie> well, you can craft creative stuff in this modpack, sooo
L879[19:49:20] <AshleighTheCutie> proably something to do with balancing
L880[19:49:49] <AshleighTheCutie> im gonna start making you a tablet
L881[19:50:03] <pay​onel> well, fwiw, there are 301 items in both 1.5.4 as well as 1.5.3 mods dirs
L882[19:50:36] <AshleighTheCutie> fwiw?
L883[19:50:49] <AshleighTheCutie> oh, nvm
L884[19:50:49] <pay​onel> for what it is worth
L885[19:50:58] <pay​onel> it's* ? 🙂
L886[19:50:59] <AshleighTheCutie> hm
L887[19:51:56] <AshleighTheCutie> i still wont update, because the people on the server are barely aple to import the instance I had for mine inMMC, so updating them is beyond their abilities i think
L888[19:52:24] <AshleighTheCutie> (I have very little patience)
L889[19:52:26] <Ar​iri> f-wii-w
L890[19:52:26] <Ar​iri> fwheew
L891[19:52:34] <AshleighTheCutie> what?
L892[19:53:03] <Ar​iri> For What It Is Worth
L893[19:53:03] <Ar​iri> FWIIW
L894[19:53:04] <Ar​iri> Whee
L895[19:53:08] <Ar​iri> :P
L896[19:53:11] <AshleighTheCutie> oh
L897[19:53:18] <pay​onel> fwheew haha
L898[19:57:45] <pay​onel> @AshleighTheCutie i'm using 1.5.3, but joining your server says "railcraft: requires 12.0.0 but mod is not found on clinet"
L899[19:58:00] <pay​onel> i can download railcraft manually, sure, but i'm curious what i did wrong
L900[19:58:36] <AshleighTheCutie> No, I forgot i added Railcraft xD
L901[19:58:54] <AshleighTheCutie> i saw your attempt in the server console
L902[19:59:00] <AshleighTheCutie> sorry about that ;-;
L903[20:00:05] <pay​onel> no fret
L904[20:00:15] <pay​onel> so 12.0.0. specifically?
L905[20:00:36] <pay​onel> oh, look. that's the version of their latest
L906[20:05:25] <AshleighTheCutie> do tablets show up as hard drives when in a charger?
L907[20:05:49] <Amanda> yes
L908[20:05:53] <AshleighTheCutie> oh neat
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L911[20:09:32] <AshleighTheCutie> welcome
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L913[20:14:29] <Ar​iri> Damn network congestion.. I gotta figure out how to send web requests to my router when my 2.4 channel is being clustered...
L914[20:17:08] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> oh yeah
L915[20:17:15] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> scanning a 50s cookbook
L916[20:21:33] <CompanionCube> get a router that does 5Ghz? :P
L917[20:25:16] <Amanda> might need to access the web ui to enable the 5ghz channel
L918[20:26:56] <Ar​iri> I do have 5ghz, but the range is too short for where it is, and too many walls
L919[20:27:27] <Ar​iri> Not all my devices support it either, which have the main connection issues. No cheap way to run an ethernet line either
L920[20:31:00] <Ar​iri> Its not like the range is bad, it used to be way better when i got the wrt1400ac, but there was less people on my bands then, and i had less devices
L921[20:33:45] <Amanda> so, TIL. If you type "stop" in the console while the dedicated server is booting, it will continue booting... until it gets to the main loop, then immediately exit. :D
L922[20:34:21] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L923[20:34:23] <Forec​aster> that's how most of my oc programs handle interrupts :P
L924[20:34:28] <Sagh​etti> it just queues up commands
L925[20:53:26] <Amanda> AshleighTheCutie: well, it doens't let clients connect without the mod. IDK how to circumvent that, and I'm too low on spoons to investigate
L926[20:53:58] <pay​onel> there is a forge attribute you can put on the mod to indicate that it isn't required on the client
L927[20:54:22] <Amanda> acceptableRemoteVersions ?
L928[20:54:27] <pay​onel> https://www.minecraftforge.net/forum/topic/66969-modding-server-side-only/
L929[20:54:36] <pay​onel> "
L930[20:54:37] <pay​onel> In your @Mod annotation you can set serverSideOnly to true and acceptableRemoteVersions to *"
L931[20:54:53] <AshleighTheCutie> thank you payonel for trying to fix the issue
L932[20:55:03] <pay​onel> what? i did fix it 😛
L933[20:55:09] <pay​onel> you got packets on the remote machine
L934[20:55:16] <AshleighTheCutie> I'm going to delve into the code and see if it's something with the code itself
L935[20:55:18] <pay​onel> i'll let you fix the rest of your network
L936[20:55:28] <AshleighTheCutie> yes, but the remote raid wont work for some reason
L937[20:55:39] <pay​onel> yeah, well, that's a software issue 🙂
L938[20:55:47] <AshleighTheCutie> I think the program is doing something weird
L939[20:55:50] <pay​onel> and maybe some network connections
L940[20:55:56] <AshleighTheCutie> thank you dude
L941[20:55:59] <Forec​aster> %sip
L942[20:55:59] <MichiBot> You drink a warpy citrus potion (New!). Sitting down suddenly seems like a really terrible idea.
L943[20:56:05] <AshleighTheCutie> thsi was very helpful
L944[20:56:24] <AshleighTheCutie> and quite the learning experience
L945[20:56:46] <Forec​aster> %tonk
L946[20:56:47] <MichiBot> By my throth! Forec​aster! You beat Li​zzy's previous record of 24 seconds (By 2 hours, 21 minutes and 38 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L947[20:56:48] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 2 hours, 22 minutes and 3 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00236 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.04311 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L948[20:56:52] <AshleighTheCutie> sorry if im being rude ;-;
L949[20:56:53] <pay​onel> %sip
L950[20:56:54] <MichiBot> You drink a basic cerulium potion (New!). pay​onel knows the exact location of a particular molecule of oxygen until they eat a pie.
L951[20:56:57] <AshleighTheCutie> i dont mean to
L952[20:57:28] <pay​onel> i'm not sure what to do with this information
L953[20:57:37] <pay​onel> but until i figure that out, apparently pie is off the menu
L954[20:57:42] <Forec​aster> into the tentacle pit with you!
L955[20:57:59] <Forec​aster> for thinking you are being rude!
L956[20:58:42] <AshleighTheCutie> i have a very hard time reading peoples moods, im sorry
L957[20:59:26] <Amanda> let's see if that single-line change is all that was needed.
L958[20:59:33] <Ocawes​ome101> the internet uses lossy compression, moods and expressiveness get largly dropped
L959[20:59:41] <Ocawes​ome101> %s/largly/largely
L960[20:59:42] <MichiBot> <Ocawesome101> the internet uses lossy compression, moods and expressiveness get largely dropped
L961[20:59:56] <AshleighTheCutie> huh
L962[21:00:07] <AshleighTheCutie> the other server can read the remote raid, but the tablet cant?
L963[21:00:20] <AshleighTheCutie> the relay with the wireless network card is the issue
L964[21:00:57] <AshleighTheCutie> it sint relaying properly
L965[21:01:05] <AshleighTheCutie> hmmm
L966[21:12:26] <Ar​iri> tentacle pit? lewd.
L967[21:16:41] <AshleighTheCutie> yeah, nothing lewd please, it bothers me
L968[21:17:13] <Ar​iri> For JS, if I call a function multiple times in the same instance, and the function has a RNG, that number should change per call right?
L969[21:17:42] <Forec​aster> probably
L970[21:17:58] <AshleighTheCutie> i would hope so
L971[21:25:38] <CompanionCube> if not, then RNG is broken surely?
L972[21:27:23] <Ar​iri> May the RNG gods smile upon my use of it.
L973[21:32:42] <Ar​iri> Who would've thought learning a bit of JS formatting before diving in to making a full-fledge chat bot would help me make things more efficient? One array vs endless if elses is much preferable for RNG
L974[21:33:17] <Michiyo> Lizzy, are you still using my NS2?
L975[21:33:27] <Lizzy> i think so
L976[21:33:36] <Amanda> AshleighTheCutie: https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/mc-opentablets/-/jobs/11380/artifacts/browse/build/libs/
L977[21:33:52] <Michiyo> it died at some point recently, I got it back up but I think the server is having issues
L978[21:34:17] <Michiyo> Am strongly considering folding that server, and moving the site on it over to my dedi...
L979[21:34:19] <Amanda> opentablets-0.0.1.jar -- works server-only, but don't count on that being a main-stay, if I do something in the future that requires both sides, I'm removing that.
L980[21:35:04] <Amanda> Also it requires forgelin, but another mod in the pack may already have that, idk
L981[21:35:33] <Lizzy> Michiyo, just checked and yes, my server is still firing requests at yours whenever my domains update
L982[21:35:43] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> hey, if anything has OSSM :^)
L983[21:36:43] <Amanda> @AdorableCatgirl I say that because I didn't need to add forgelin for my mc-eternal dedi,at least
L984[21:36:50] <Lizzy> my server and your ns2 are the only 2 servers defined for my domains, i could probably spin up a small DO/Vultr server to be a second one for me if moving your ns is a hassle
L985[21:39:09] <Amanda> %choose rain box time?
L986[21:39:10] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Hm, yeah okay.
L987[21:40:05] <Michiyo> Hmm.. I wonder if I'll even be able to use DO for my ns 2-4 if I drop my last VM with them <_<
L988[21:40:15] <Michiyo> cause right now I'm using my NS1 and NS2-4 from them
L989[21:41:48] <Lizzy> i'd be spinning up my own VPS rather than using whatever their dns slave stuff is
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L991[21:42:16] <Lizzy> iirc your domain got a bit weird when it was reported by DO's stuff
L992[21:43:36] <Amanda> AshleighTheCutie: also it may cause lag if there's a lot of players on at once. I'm convinced there's a better way to do what doing, but haven't had the spoons to look into it
L993[21:44:00] <AshleighTheCutie> hm
L994[21:44:27] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> Amanda: hey i'll take a look at it later™️
L995[21:44:52] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i'm currently scanning a 400+ page book
L996[21:45:23] <Amanda> Maybe if I keep track of who picks it up, if there's a forge event for that. Then only scan the inventory on first load of the player? IDK.
L997[21:46:08] <Amanda> Almost anything is sure to be better than scanning every player's inventory every player tick
L998[21:46:43] <Amanda> Anyway, here be dragons.
L999[21:47:00] * Amanda slinks off to use the rain box
L1000[22:23:17] <Forec​aster> yep, am dumb
L1001[22:23:30] <Forec​aster> relay was relaying messages the server was ignoring
L1002[22:23:43] <Forec​aster> I forgot to open the output data port...
L1003[22:24:38] <AshleighTheCutie> oof
L1004[22:25:06] <Amanda> Mew?
L1005[22:25:59] <AshleighTheCutie> nyaaaa
L1006[22:26:59] <AshleighTheCutie> payonel: figured it out
L1007[22:27:09] <AshleighTheCutie> the realys arent passing along the messages
L1008[22:27:53] <AshleighTheCutie> relays
L1009[22:29:38] <AshleighTheCutie> it's a bug in OC
L1010[22:32:07] <pay​onel> i dont believe there is a bug
L1011[22:32:27] <AshleighTheCutie> MajGenRelativity found it
L1012[22:32:43] <AshleighTheCutie> it sees the messages, but only passes it along as a wired message
L1013[22:32:48] <pay​onel> but if you do, i'll need a minimal repro of the issue. like a step by step (place rack, place blade, place relay, run lua repl, run this command, .., confirm no message)
L1014[22:32:49] <AshleighTheCutie> not as a wireless message
L1015[22:33:05] <M​GR> I'm working on a minimal reproduction
L1016[22:33:13] <AshleighTheCutie> thank you MGR
L1017[22:33:18] <M​GR> Any time
L1018[22:33:26] <pay​onel> you want the receiving relay, of a ilnk card received modem message, to replay the message wirelessly?
L1019[22:33:37] <pay​onel> relays don't do that, they communicate on the wired network
L1020[22:33:48] <AshleighTheCutie> then why have a wireless card in them?
L1021[22:33:49] <Lizzy> %tonk
L1022[22:33:51] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 2 hours, 22 minutes and 3 seconds this time. 1 hour, 37 minutes and 3 seconds were wasted! Missed by 44 minutes and 59 seconds!
L1023[22:33:51] <pay​onel> unless they are relaying via a wireless card in their slot
L1024[22:34:13] <AshleighTheCutie> they have a wireless card in their slot, there are two relays on the other end
L1025[22:34:17] <pay​onel> i'm saying, if a relay receives a modem message via link card, it relays that message to its connected network
L1026[22:34:36] <AshleighTheCutie> one relay has the link card, and one has the wireless modem, and they are connected to each other
L1027[22:34:55] <AshleighTheCutie> that's why the wired devices work fine, but the wireless ones dont work
L1028[22:36:23] <pay​onel> youre saying: machine[wired]+relaya[link]+relayb[wireless} - that when relaya gets a modemmessage, relay_b should repeat that modem message on its wireless card?
L1029[22:36:32] <Forec​aster> make sure you don't have copied network cards
L1030[22:36:41] <AshleighTheCutie> netowrks cards arent copied
L1031[22:36:43] <Forec​aster> duplicate addresses have caused me problems in the past
L1032[22:37:02] <AshleighTheCutie> yes, payonel
L1033[22:37:06] <AshleighTheCutie> thats what one would expect
L1034[22:40:04] <Amanda> a relay with a wireless card in it won't relay messages relayed by another relay?
L1035[22:41:04] <Amanda> that.. would explain a lot of networking fuckery I've sseen
L1036[22:41:16] <Lizzy> isn't there a function you can call on the relay component to make it re-broadcast wireless messages it gets
L1037[22:42:01] <Amanda> I asumed that was rebroadcasting wireless to wireless, for example, for range addition
L1038[22:43:14] <AshleighTheCutie> i guess it wasnt
L1039[22:43:43] <Forec​aster> relay.setRepeater()
L1040[22:44:09] <Forec​aster> that is on by default though
L1041[22:44:58] <pay​onel> ok i found two bugs....or things that deserve more investigation
L1042[22:46:49] <Forec​aster> what bugs?
L1043[22:46:52] <Forec​aster> :O
L1044[22:46:56] <pay​onel> hrm
L1045[22:47:02] <pay​onel> nothing to report yet
L1046[22:47:16] <Forec​aster> ohno
L1047[22:47:18] <Forec​aster> deception!
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L1050[22:48:28] <Amanda> Thanks, Comcast, not like Iw as about to watch a video or anything
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L1053[22:52:42] <pay​onel> @AshleighTheCutie you're using t2 wireless cards?
L1054[22:56:17] <pay​onel> i may have a bug with T1 cards, i'll dig into that separately. T1 cards have brought me grief, and I think there is a weird relationship in network packets coming from a T1 wireless card that then try to travel through a wired relay system --
L1055[22:56:25] <pay​onel> but putting that aside, testing with t2 and link cards only
L1056[22:56:28] <pay​onel> i have this:
L1057[22:56:42] <pay​onel> 3 machines: A, B, and C
L1058[22:57:00] <pay​onel> i can send traffic between all 3
L1059[22:57:09] <pay​onel> A: T2 wireless card, no relay
L1060[22:57:23] <pay​onel> B: wired card, relay[link], relay[t2 wireless]
L1061[22:57:30] <pay​onel> C: wired card, relay[link]
L1062[22:58:59] <pay​onel> i can broadcast 'a' from A, B and C get it. i can broadcast 'b' from B, A and C get it. and I can broadcast 'c' from C, A and B get it
L1063[23:01:49] <pay​onel> note to everyone reading this
L1064[23:02:06] <pay​onel> @Forecaster @amanda @AshleighTheCutie -- the relay flashing white does NOT mean it is "working"
L1065[23:02:13] <Forec​aster> what I'm not reading anything how dare you
L1066[23:02:31] <pay​onel> a powered relay will flash white when it sees a packet
L1067[23:02:35] <Forec​aster> I assumed it meant it was receiving something
L1068[23:02:45] <pay​onel> whether or not it has a device on its "component network" that cares
L1069[23:03:03] <pay​onel> it means it got a packet, but there may not be a device/component that cares
L1070[23:03:14] <Forec​aster> I knew that
L1071[23:03:15] <Forec​aster> :P
L1072[23:03:44] <pay​onel> so, for example, if you place: in a line of block case->relayA->relayB then relayB is powered but not in the case's network
L1073[23:03:53] <pay​onel> so when relayB gets a packet, it is not shared with case
L1074[23:04:40] <pay​onel> to verify, run `components relay` on your host machine to check if it sees all the relays you think it should
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L1076[23:06:09] <pay​onel> now, on the other hand, T1 wireless cards were acting stupid. i think there are still bugs there. i'll dig into that later tonight
L1077[23:06:50] <Forec​aster> we've pointed that out before when someone had issues with those
L1078[23:07:42] <pay​onel> i should just call it a feature
L1079[23:08:00] <pay​onel> "T1 wireless cards are aftermarket hacks, and probably won't work. don't build a network on them that you expect to work reliably"
L1080[23:08:19] <pay​onel> "you get what you pay for"
L1081[23:08:24] <Forec​aster> :P
L1082[23:12:33] <Amanda> CLOSED WONTFIX WORKSFORME
L1083[23:12:34] <Amanda> :P
L1084[23:12:43] * Amanda snugsafairy, does some halucinating
L1085[23:17:46] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> oh yeah i want to do a thing with uCs since modem messages don't pass through them
L1086[23:17:59] * Elfi snugs back
L1087[23:30:46] <Forec​aster> hm
L1088[23:30:56] <Forec​aster> I last played the Stanley Parable in 2017
L1089[23:31:12] <Forec​aster> still two years left until I can get the "Don't play for 5 years" achievement
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