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L4[00:51:37] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24:
GloriousEggroll's fork
L5[00:57:58]
<ThePiGuy24> ah thanks
L6[00:59:07] <Izaya> oh, neat, MS is trying
to re-brand DX12 again
L7[00:59:13] <Izaya> tfw they can't compete
with Vulkan
L8[01:04:09]
<ThePiGuy24> hehe
L9[01:05:04] <Izaya> tfw DX12 emulated on
top of Vulkan is the best way to experience DX12 titles
L10[01:07:46]
<ThePiGuy24> they cant even compete in the
game they created
L11[01:11:33]
<AdorableCatgirl> ah yes
L12[01:11:42]
<AdorableCatgirl> DX12 U L T I M A T
E
L13[01:13:01] <Izaya> they've kinda painted
themselves into a corner
L14[01:13:10] <Izaya> what will they call
the NEXT irrelevant DX12 point release?
L15[01:14:53]
<ThePiGuy24> bankruptcy
L16[01:19:19]
<Kristopher38> Random idea: has anybody
ported ncurses to opencomputers?
L17[01:29:12]
<Ocawesome101> I've considered it
L18[01:29:26]
<Ocawesome101> I'll definitely be using
something similar in concept for the Proton installer
L19[01:30:25] <Izaya> the term API
implements "windowing" and you can do everything else
with enough control codes
L20[01:37:43]
<AdorableCatgirl> FUCK MY MIC IS SET UP
WRONG
L21[01:37:45]
<AdorableCatgirl> WINDOWS FUCK OFF
L22[01:38:02] <Izaya> [internal echo
continues]
L23[01:38:17]
<AdorableCatgirl> p much
L24[01:38:21] <Izaya> my favourite thing is
how my friends using windows have somehow got their computer set up
to loop the audio output back into the input
L25[01:38:29] <Izaya> so that if two of
them talk at the same time you get feedback
L26[01:40:36]
<AdorableCatgirl> i have a fuckin
L27[01:40:44]
<AdorableCatgirl> virtual audio cable sort
of deal for a soundboard
L28[01:40:56]
<Zef> god
windows cannot handle audio devices
L29[01:41:12]
<AdorableCatgirl> ^
L30[01:41:26]
<AdorableCatgirl> tbh windows can't handle
anything
L31[01:41:35]
<AdorableCatgirl> sadly, many of my games
don't run the greatest under proton
L32[01:41:40]
<AdorableCatgirl> THE FUCKING
L33[01:41:54]
<AdorableCatgirl> "HANG ON WHILE
WINDOWS REPORTS THE PROBLEM TO MICROSOFT" WINDOW IS
STUCK
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L37[01:43:10] <Izaya> I haven't had any
issues whatsoever tbh
L38[01:43:20] <Izaya> though I have no
ubisoft or EA games
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<AdorableCatgirl> neither do i
L41[01:49:30]
<AdorableCatgirl> it's just that my poor
1050 doesn't have enough vram
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L44[01:50:59] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L45[01:50:59] <MichiBot> Aw jeez!
CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 5 hours,
1 minute and 35 seconds (By 2 hours, 3 minutes and 55 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L46[01:51:00] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 7 hours, 5 minutes and 30 seconds! CompanionCube also
gained 0.01242 (0.00207 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #2. Need 0.00193 more points to pass Lizzian!
L47[01:51:26]
<ThePiGuy24> e
L48[01:51:41] <CompanionCube> ?
L49[02:12:34] <Izaya> well
L50[02:12:38] <Izaya> getty is now an
rc-style script
L51[02:12:40] <Izaya> good stat
L52[02:12:42] <Izaya> start
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L55[02:38:28] <CompanionCube> so for
reasons not gone into here i signed into my mojang account
L56[02:38:46] <CompanionCube> apparently i
obtained minecraft java a few days before my nickserv was
registered
L57[02:39:14] <CompanionCube> (though I
remember playing Classic for a good while before....)
L58[03:03:11]
<Z0idburg>
is getty an actual getty?
L59[03:03:49] <Michiyo> It's ok
CompanionCube I played MC long before I bought MC.
L60[03:04:07] <CompanionCube> i didn't
:p
L61[03:08:45] <Izaya> well tbh it's more
like consolekit
L62[03:09:58]
<The_Stargazer> i bought minecraft like
two or three years ago but i've been playing for maybe four or
five
L63[03:10:23]
<The_Stargazer> iirc notch's original
thing was "as long as you buy it at some point it's ok"
or something like that
L64[03:18:04]
<Saghetti>
minecoins
L65[03:35:58] <Izaya> turns out the reason
the serialization lib choked on functions is because I was holding
it wrong
L66[03:36:12] <Izaya> if you pass true as
the second argument, it lets you see them
L68[04:42:28] <DFrostedWang> I'm not sure
why my microcontroller errors on startup, or how to find out why.
https://pastebin.com/sZMUDy1P Any ideas where I'm
going wrong?
L69[04:42:47] <Michiyo>
componentproxy?
L70[04:43:40] <Michiyo> pretty sure you
want component.proxy(component.list("redstone")())
L71[04:46:29] <DFrostedWang> oh my god
ffs
L72[04:46:31] <DFrostedWang> thank you very
much
L73[04:46:47] <DFrostedWang> Is there any
easy way to verify that the code would actually run on a
microcontroller?
L74[04:48:25] *
Michiyo shrugs
L75[04:48:27] <DFrostedWang> Michiyo: Also
why the extra () in there?
L76[04:48:41] <DFrostedWang> I think I'm
missing something about how component.proxy works
L77[04:48:59] <Michiyo> You might be
missing something in how component.list works
L78[04:49:05] <DFrostedWang> perhaps
L79[04:49:36] <Michiyo> IDK for sure
though... I think it just returns the first component returned by
component.list if you have more than one?
L80[04:49:43] <DFrostedWang> I don't know
where I would find information about that anyway
L82[04:50:29] <DFrostedWang> but then
wouldn't component.list("redstone") be sufficient?
L84[04:51:01] <Michiyo> IDK honestly.. the
example there uses the (), and I commonly see it used here in
examples.
L85[04:51:03] <DFrostedWang> even that
doesn't seem to support a reason for the extra ()
L86[04:51:12] <Michiyo> I've not actually
played MC in close to 2 years at this point.
L87[04:51:30] <DFrostedWang> I'm about the
same tbh just getting back into it for the programming fun
honestly
L88[04:51:46] <Michiyo> the () returns the
first entry from the iterator
L89[04:52:14] <DFrostedWang> I don't
understand why that happens
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L91[04:52:29] <Michiyo> Because (tm)
L93[04:53:07] <DFrostedWang> honestly I'm a
very beginner at this, sorry if I'm being dumb here
L94[04:53:32] <Michiyo> From an example
there "local element = iter() -- calls the
iterator"
L95[04:54:10] <Michiyo> so
component.list("redstone")() calls the iterator of list,
and returns the first result
L96[04:54:15] <DFrostedWang> I see
L97[04:54:39] <DFrostedWang> so if I run
any iterator I can call it with an extra () to return the first
result?
L98[04:54:46] <Michiyo> if you have a
single component of that type, then
component.list("redstone") would work fine. if you have
more than one then it would return a table IIRC
L99[04:54:58] <DFrostedWang> I see... well
I only have one of them so it shouldn't matter, right?
L100[04:55:18] <Michiyo> sure, for now,
then you slap this code somewhere else where you havbe 2 and it
explodes.
L101[04:55:43] <DFrostedWang> it's a
porpoise built microcontroller so I doubt that will be an
issue
L102[04:56:42] <DFrostedWang> it is very
good to know though and I get why it's in the documentation -- not
everyone uses it this way
L104[05:21:20] <Michiyo> DFrostedWang,
possibly the sides api?
L105[05:21:29] <Michiyo> IDK I've never
actually used a mcu
L106[05:22:14] <DFrostedWang> yeah it is
that
L107[05:22:16] <DFrostedWang> I fixed it
\o/
L108[05:22:28] <DFrostedWang> I was still
doing sides.right instead of sides(right)
L109[05:22:31] <Michiyo> nice, I'd
wandered off to poke my 3d printer lol
L110[05:27:41] <DFrostedWang> real or in
minecraft?
L111[05:29:22] <Michiyo> real
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L114[05:34:24] <DFrostedWang> nice
L115[05:34:48] <DFrostedWang> What've you
got? I have the two earlier monoprice printers, the i3 clone and
the malyan m200 clone
L116[05:39:32] <Michiyo> I've got a Prusa
i3 Mk3s
L117[05:39:43] <Michiyo> Roommate has a
lulzbot Taz 6
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L120[05:51:48] <Izaya> DFrostedWang: copy
the firmware to /tmp/init.lua
L121[05:51:57] <Izaya> then set the boot
address to the tmpfs address and reboot
L122[05:52:22]
<The_Stargazer> uhh what
L123[05:52:27]
<The_Stargazer> microcontrollers don't
have filesystems
L124[05:52:36] <Izaya> a) they do, the
tmpfs
L125[05:52:44] <Izaya> b) do this on a
computer to verify the code
L126[05:52:57]
<The_Stargazer> wait... microcontrollers
have a tmpfs?
L127[05:53:02] <Izaya> yes?
L128[05:53:04] <Izaya> they're a
computer
L129[05:53:06] <Izaya> so they have a
tmpfs
L130[05:53:22] <Izaya> why do you think I
focus on having PsychOS bootable from the tmpfs so much? :p
L131[05:54:03]
<The_Stargazer> so wait
L132[05:54:13]
<The_Stargazer> it's possible to just have
an EEPROM that downloads all the needed files?
L133[05:54:19] <Izaya> yup
L134[05:54:27] <Izaya> the FRequest loader
does exactly that
L135[05:54:49] <Michiyo> aaaand
@"The_Stargazer" 's brain explodes.
L136[05:54:53] <Michiyo> I'll grab the
mop
L137[05:54:56] <Izaya> downloads an image
over FRequest into the tmpfs and then loads it
L138[05:55:01] <Izaya> ah shit, I'll start
filling a bucket
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L141[06:16:03] <DFrostedWang> Michiyo: So
you've actually got basically the same thing as I do. Hopefully
with auto bed leveling though, manual on mine sucks
L142[06:16:09] <DFrostedWang> and my bed
isn't quite flat lol
L144[06:17:44] <Izaya> thinking I'll
replace this with something that allows a separate init.lua
L145[06:17:47] <Izaya> so you don't need
to download it
L146[06:17:55] <Izaya> that'd free up 20KB
or so in the case of PsychOS
L147[06:18:10] <DFrostedWang> wow, how big
is PsychOS anyway?
L148[06:18:41] <Izaya> about 66KB with
everything included
L149[06:18:55] <DFrostedWang> that'd make
up a huge chunk of savings in space then
L150[06:18:57] <Izaya> most of it isn't
necessary, but I'm yet to implement a package manager
L151[06:19:36] <DFrostedWang> What's it
really good at?
L152[06:19:55] <Izaya> I find it much
easier to implement network services on, personally
L153[06:20:02] <DFrostedWang> how
so?
L154[06:20:17] <Izaya> threading is more
of an expected use-case than OpenOS
L155[06:20:23] <Izaya> admittedly, the
thread API is pretty good
L156[06:20:28] <Izaya> but I like my
implementation :p
L157[06:20:37] <Izaya> I can
os.spawn(socketHandler(socket))
L158[06:20:51] <Izaya> and then basically
never think about it again
L159[06:22:55] <Izaya> on one hand I'd
like to be able to say the kernel was less than 20KB but also if I
do that it ends up making the overall system smaller because I
don't need to implement anything for early module loading
L160[06:23:13] <Izaya> like, I could split
it into separate files but it's honestly kinda pointless to
L161[06:23:42] <Izaya> I'd end up with a
worse loadfile that I replace later anyway
L162[06:23:55] <DFrostedWang> I was
looking at the thread api yesterday and thinking of playing with it
but I have no use case for that atm
L163[06:23:58] <Izaya> whereas I can just
have a main file with a bunch of includes and that makes the
resulting system smaller overall
L164[06:24:26] <DFrostedWang> honestly I
don't know many practical applications for the more complicated
stuff you guys program but it sure seems like y'all enjoy it
:d
L166[06:24:45] <DFrostedWang> anything
that actually like... solves a problem that exists in
minecraft?
L167[06:25:01] <DFrostedWang> no offense
intended of course, just curious what you actually do with all this
cool stuff you make
L168[06:25:06] <Izaya> PsychOS is mostly
where I play with OS development ideas tbh
L169[06:25:14] <Izaya> I can do remote
login over Minitel on it though
L170[06:25:17] <Izaya> which is
convenient
L171[06:25:38] <DFrostedWang> I admit it's
interesting to have a game that is completely not about programming
become basically a server manager minigame
L172[06:25:56] <DFrostedWang> but I feel
like network sockets is a little beyond what's necessary for most
minecrafting
L173[06:26:15] <DFrostedWang> is there any
practical reason I should learn to implement/use them?
L174[06:26:25] <Izaya> implement? probably
not
L175[06:26:30] <Izaya> I was doing a
networking course at the time
L176[06:26:51] <Izaya> use? it means you
don't have to implement it yourself if you want sockets for another
application
L177[06:26:58] <DFrostedWang> but why
would I want sockets in minecraft
L178[06:27:15] <Izaya> so you can access
your OpenComputers-based inventory system
L179[06:27:23] <Izaya> from another
dimension
L180[06:27:26] <Izaya> :D
L181[06:27:41] <DFrostedWang> uh... I'd
love to hear more about that! Sounds awesome
L182[06:27:46] <DFrostedWang> how do
L183[06:28:06] <Izaya> tl;dr Storage
Drawers, a Drawer Controller, a transposer, and two chests.
L184[06:28:17] <DFrostedWang> and how does
a socket help, also?
L185[06:28:29] <Izaya> well you see
L186[06:28:37] <Izaya> when I want to use
my inventory system remotely
L187[06:28:48] <Izaya> assuming I have
network connectivity
L188[06:29:07] <Izaya> I open a socket,
type a command, and it spews item data to the program on my local
machine
L189[06:29:45] <DFrostedWang> So uh...
Hmm... Could probably do something similar with a tablet / linked
card and ender chest / pouch?
L190[06:29:56] <DFrostedWang> so you're
just asking the computer to have it spit out the item you
need
L191[06:30:19] <DFrostedWang> but the
socket makes that connection easier in the first place? You're
doing this over the internet? Or a local / in-minecraft
network?
L192[06:30:23] <Izaya> well, I have a
tablet and a bunch of dimensional transceivers
L193[06:30:28] <Izaya> in-game minitel
network
L194[06:30:46] <DFrostedWang> Right,
minitel. I haven't played with any of that yet either
L195[06:30:48] <Izaya> the sockets make it
about a trillion times easier to write the software in some sort of
performant manner
L196[06:30:54] <DFrostedWang> that sounds
good
L197[06:31:02] <Izaya> rather than either
doing my own fragmentation, or sending each item as its own
message
L198[06:31:08] <Izaya> I can send each
item as a line
L199[06:31:22] <DFrostedWang> right
L200[06:31:28] <Izaya> and the socket
library on both ends handles the fragmentation details
L201[06:31:50] <DFrostedWang> linked card
seems kind of easier
L202[06:32:06] <Izaya> sure, but you still
need something to do message fragmentation
L203[06:32:15] <DFrostedWang> hm
L204[06:32:17] <Izaya> and minitel is
quite happy to work over a linked card
L205[06:32:21] <DFrostedWang> You have a
GUI for your network?
L206[06:32:32] <Izaya> ... or vTunnel, if
you want to communicate between servers :D
L207[06:32:42] <DFrostedWang> It actually
might be really fun to make my own GUI for my AE2 system to use it
from the tablet...
L208[06:32:53] *
Izaya doesn't like magic mods like AE2
L209[06:33:01] *
Izaya prefers technology mods like Botania
L210[06:33:07] <DFrostedWang> lol
L211[06:33:20] <DFrostedWang> I prefer my
technology magical
L212[06:33:33] <Izaya> AE2: no engineering
required
L213[06:33:36] <DFrostedWang> It's
honestly a quality of life thing, with a slight challenge
L214[06:33:53] <DFrostedWang> Why do you
say that? It's *easy* network engineering, but you still have
channels to worry about when designing the network
L215[06:33:55] <DFrostedWang>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L216[06:34:21] <Izaya> I mean, now that I
have autocrafting (semi-)working, I have most of the benefits of
AE2 without a set of magic blocks that just do things by
magic
L217[06:34:33] <DFrostedWang> now
combining it with any type of deep storage unit like say... a bunch
of caches -- that makes it ludicrous
L218[06:34:33] <Izaya> it works because I
made it work
L219[06:35:00] <Izaya> this is personal
preference, of course
L220[06:35:15] <DFrostedWang> that does
sound fun
L221[06:35:24] <DFrostedWang> I could
autocraft with computers using AE2 probably
L222[06:35:28] <DFrostedWang> in fact,
definitely
L223[06:35:35] <Izaya> as for GUI, I have
a TUI for the item system
L224[06:35:37] <DFrostedWang> I think it's
just faster to do it the built-in way
L225[06:35:43] <Izaya> I use a robot with
a crafting upgrade for autocrafting
L226[06:35:43] <DFrostedWang> What's that
mean? TUI?
L227[06:35:47] <Izaya> text user
interface
L228[06:35:49] <DFrostedWang> How fast is
it?
L229[06:35:57] <DFrostedWang> Can I see
your TUI?
L230[06:36:00] <Izaya> if the system knew
how to batch things, it'd be reasonably fast
L231[06:36:05] <Izaya> it does not, so
it's pretty slow
L232[06:36:11] <DFrostedWang> batching
seems easy to implement
L233[06:36:14] <Izaya> you say that
L234[06:36:16] <Izaya> but
L235[06:36:23] <Izaya> recursing through
requirements is hard
L236[06:36:28] <DFrostedWang> hm...
L237[06:36:35] <Izaya> tgat saud
L238[06:36:36] <DFrostedWang> AE2 is open
source?
L239[06:36:37] <Izaya> that said
L240[06:36:39] <DFrostedWang> I
think
L241[06:36:41] <DFrostedWang> look at how
they do it
L242[06:36:52] <Izaya> I'm a brainlet, so
it's not like I'd be the best at implementing this
L243[06:36:56] <Izaya> AE2 has access to
magic
L244[06:37:01] <Izaya> that is, the game's
registry of recipes and such
L245[06:37:19] <DFrostedWang> perhaps you
could make a table of that and read the data from a server?
L246[06:37:33] <DFrostedWang> that way you
don't have to spend ages calculating it
L247[06:37:35] <Izaya> if I want that, I
have to use craftdumper, parse that into a format I can read easily
enough, split it up, compress each file so it fits on any storage
in the game
L248[06:37:47] <DFrostedWang> right, but
you *could* do all that
L249[06:37:51] <DFrostedWang> it'd be fun!
:D
L250[06:37:53] <Izaya> I did
L251[06:37:57] <Izaya> minus the
batching
L252[06:38:04] <DFrostedWang> oh
geez
L253[06:38:18] <DFrostedWang> but then you
have the same magic access that AE2 has, right?
L254[06:38:21] <DFrostedWang> but maybe
slower
L255[06:38:28] <CompanionCube> shitty idea
of the week: use something like prolog to see what you can craft
using given items
L256[06:38:35] <Izaya> until mods are
added or recipes change, anyway
L257[06:38:44] <Izaya> and that's only
shaped recipes for a crafting table
L258[06:38:51] <DFrostedWang> good point,
but you can probably automate the process of building the
table...
L259[06:38:56] <Izaya> probably
L260[06:39:07] <Izaya> you'd still need to
manually trigger it, but you *could*
L261[06:39:26] <Izaya> even compressed you
end up with a few hundred KB of recipes and that's not including
shapeless ones
L262[06:39:28] <Izaya> :D
L263[06:39:34] <DFrostedWang> that's
nuts
L264[06:39:41] <Izaya> on the upside,
because it's divided by first character
L265[06:39:47] <Izaya> (because otherwise
the computer choked)
L266[06:39:53] <Izaya> finding an
individual recipe is fairly fast
L267[06:40:03] <Izaya> and I got a library
that can read and write compressed files like it's nothing out of
it
L268[06:40:05] <Izaya> so
L269[06:40:07] <Izaya> neat
L270[06:40:14] <DFrostedWang> that's
good
L271[06:41:07] <DFrostedWang> can you help
with my microcontroller pls
L272[06:41:13] <Izaya> potentially
L273[06:41:15] <Izaya> whatcha doin
L275[06:41:36] <DFrostedWang> simple
input/output stuff, splitting into bundled cable
L276[06:41:50] <DFrostedWang> but nothing
comes out of the bundled side, and I think I'm doing it right
there...
L277[06:41:57] <Izaya> uuuh
L278[06:42:08] <Izaya> I haven't gone into
the logic yet, but using tables could simplify your program
greatly
L279[06:42:22] <DFrostedWang> I don't
understand tables very well, but if you can help explain it that'd
be awesome
L280[06:42:39] <Izaya> well for the
sides
L281[06:43:11] <Izaya>
sides={bottom=0,top=1,back=2,front=3,right=4,left=5}
L283[06:43:31] <Izaya> then you can use
sides.back and that will evaluate as 2
L284[06:43:42] <DFrostedWang> that sounds
useful af
L285[06:43:43] <DFrostedWang> thanks
L286[06:44:08] <Izaya> if you're fancy you
can use two-way association using metatables but
L287[06:44:22] <Izaya> that's usually not
necessary and you can use a for loop to emulate it anyway
L288[06:45:01] <Izaya> ~w redstone
L290[06:45:10] <DFrostedWang> I have
almost all of the components and APIs open atm
L291[06:45:18] <Izaya> I don't :p
L292[06:45:25] <DFrostedWang> oh lol
sorry
L293[06:45:35] <DFrostedWang> I'm really
trying to research on my own learning this stuff but it's slow
going
L294[06:46:04] <DFrostedWang> I fixed the
tables like you suggested, still that shouldn't affect the output
of the bundled cable, I don't think?
L295[06:46:11] <Izaya> probably not
L296[06:46:24] <Izaya> just trying to
reason out this
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L299[06:47:50] <DFrostedWang> Input on the
face, output on the back and right sides
L300[06:47:54] <DFrostedWang> literally
just forwarding the input
L301[06:48:03] <DFrostedWang> but to three
colors on the right side - white, orange, then blue
L303[06:48:28] <DFrostedWang> ^ updated
code
L304[06:48:51] <Izaya> orange and white
are set to 2 in colo(u)rs
L305[06:49:13] <Izaya> uh
L306[06:49:17] <Izaya> orange and
magenta
L307[06:49:22] <Izaya> I imagine orange is
meant to be 1
L308[06:49:23] <DFrostedWang> I fixed it
just now
L309[06:49:26] <DFrostedWang> yes
L310[06:49:33] <Izaya> so uh
L311[06:49:35] <Izaya> suggestion
L312[06:49:38] <Izaya> have this run on a
computer
L313[06:49:44] <Izaya> and add lots of
debugging print statements
L314[06:50:09] <DFrostedWang> The weird
part is that it outputs on the back but not the right side
L315[06:50:16] <DFrostedWang> just the
bundled ones having an issue
L316[06:50:34] <Izaya> are you using a T2
redstone card?
L317[06:50:37] <DFrostedWang> yes
L318[06:50:43] <DFrostedWang> should I
not?
L319[06:50:48] <Izaya> just checking
L320[06:51:00] <Izaya> pretty sure T1
can't do bundled I/O
L321[06:52:33] <Izaya> well
L322[06:52:36] <Izaya> dubious
suggestion
L323[06:53:06] <Izaya> use the table
version of setBundledOutput
L324[06:53:18] <DFrostedWang> again not
sure how
L325[06:53:55] <Izaya>
setBundledOutput(sides.right,{[colors.white] = 255, [colors.orange]
= 255, [colors.blue] = 255})
L326[06:54:11] <DFrostedWang> oh,
cool
L327[06:54:17] <DFrostedWang> so do they
have to be in [] ?
L328[06:54:23] <Izaya> I believe so
L329[06:54:23] <DFrostedWang> why is
that?
L330[06:54:32] <Izaya> that's the indexing
notation
L331[06:55:08] <Izaya> to get/set a table
value the notation is table[index]
L332[06:55:14] <DFrostedWang> hm... bad
argument 1, string expected got nil
L333[06:55:18] <DFrostedWang> interesting
way to start
L334[06:55:58] <Izaya> if you can't use
syntax sugar, the indexing notation is the way to go, and the
table.value notation only really works for strings
L336[06:57:27] <DFrostedWang> The thing
is, I kind of want this controller to ultimately flick these lights
on one color at a time...
L337[06:57:31] <DFrostedWang> with a
delay
L338[06:57:41] <DFrostedWang> so should I
bother changing to tables for the output?
L339[06:57:52] <DFrostedWang> that makes
them all simultaneous, doesn't it?
L340[06:58:51] <Izaya> true enough
L341[06:59:12] <Izaya> but if it's not
working, try something else
L342[06:59:18] <DFrostedWang> I enjoy my
barn and farms lighting up slowly, but the redstone timers to do
that lagged the server
L343[06:59:26] <DFrostedWang> I'm trying
to do something more efficient but still achieve the same
result
L344[06:59:34] <DFrostedWang> I was hoping
the cables would be easy to use and look nice
L345[07:00:54] <DFrostedWang> So uh...
could I just put this eeprom in a computer and boot it and have it
work the same way?
L346[07:01:05]
<The_Stargazer> you should be able
ot
L347[07:01:07]
<The_Stargazer> you should be able to
[Edited]
L348[07:01:16] <Izaya> no need to change
the EEPROM
L349[07:01:18] <Izaya> but yes
L350[07:01:30] <Izaya> cp firmware.lua
/tmp/init.lua
L351[07:01:32] <Izaya> lua
L352[07:01:40] <Izaya>
computer.setBootAddress(computer.tmpAddress())
L353[07:01:44] <Izaya>
computer.shutdown(true)
L354[07:01:50] <DFrostedWang> but assuming
I was testing using the same eeprom as was in the
microcontroller...
L355[07:01:58]
<The_Stargazer> it'd work
L356[07:02:03] <DFrostedWang> it's giving
me the error bad argument #1 (string expected, got nil)
L357[07:02:11]
<The_Stargazer> code?
L358[07:02:18] <DFrostedWang> coming, one
sec
L360[07:02:47] <Izaya> bad argument #1
eh
L361[07:02:58]
<The_Stargazer> on what line
L362[07:02:58] <Izaya> so it's not any of
the redstone calls
L363[07:03:14] <DFrostedWang> it doesn't
say
L364[07:03:18] <Izaya> and the only other
call is the component.proxy
L365[07:03:21] <DFrostedWang> it's booting
eeprom straight in a computer
L366[07:03:21]
<The_Stargazer> hmm
L367[07:03:29]
<The_Stargazer> analyzer it?
L368[07:03:30] <Izaya> it has a redstone
card/block right?
L369[07:03:31]
<The_Stargazer> idk
L370[07:03:39] <DFrostedWang> it has a
card on the end of a cable, yes
L371[07:03:48]
<The_Stargazer> you mean a block?
L372[07:03:49] <DFrostedWang> I put it
exactly where the microcontroller was
L373[07:03:50] <DFrostedWang> yes
L374[07:03:53] <DFrostedWang> sorry
L375[07:04:01] <Izaya> does it show up
when you run components?
L376[07:04:05] <DFrostedWang> uh...
L377[07:04:44] <DFrostedWang> hm, no
L378[07:05:22] <DFrostedWang> does cable
have a distance limit?
L379[07:05:41] <Izaya> I don't believe
so
L380[07:05:55]
<The_Stargazer> afaik... no
L381[07:06:31] <DFrostedWang> broke and
replaced and it fixed it
L383[07:07:38] <DFrostedWang> that is
neato
L384[07:08:07] <DFrostedWang> I was
thinking similar to that, probably touchscreen
L385[07:08:16]
<The_Stargazer> whats with the hex?
L386[07:08:22] <Izaya> I haven't figured
out how to integrate crafting into it so I don't have a good
interface for it
L387[07:08:51]
<The_Stargazer> also: why do 0x64 when you
can just do 100?
L388[07:08:59] <DFrostedWang> Well if you
have crafting *working* it seems simple to send a signal to the
crafting system saying you need more if you're out when some is
requested
L389[07:08:59] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: 0
times 64 plus 22
L390[07:09:25]
<The_Stargazer> Oh
L391[07:09:31]
<The_Stargazer> Not 0x64 as in hex?
L392[07:09:31] <DFrostedWang> I love
hearing how things I think are simple are actually stupidly
complex
L393[07:10:21] <Izaya> why would I use hex
for an item count
L394[07:10:26] <Izaya> the game presents
all of them in decimal
L395[07:10:57]
<The_Stargazer> good point
L396[07:11:06]
<The_Stargazer> i just see `0x` and assume
hex
L397[07:11:14] <Izaya> I just wanted a
nice way to get the stacks and the count mod 64
L399[07:11:34] <Izaya> same way storage
drawers does it, actually
L400[07:11:43] <DFrostedWang> This is
still not working, am confused
L401[07:11:53] <Izaya> x stacks plus y
items
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L404[07:13:12] <Izaya> is the getInput
reading properly? is the program crashing? what's happening
L405[07:13:13]
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L411[07:13:51] <DFrostedWang> okay I'm
back finally geez
L412[07:13:55] <DFrostedWang> internet is
real spotty here sometimes
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L414[07:14:20] <DFrostedWang> so any ideas
why it doesn't work now?
L415[07:15:28] <Izaya> is the getInput
reading properly? is the program crashing? what's happening
L416[07:19:40] <DFrostedWang> getInput
isn't reading properly, no front input signal found
L417[07:20:05] <DFrostedWang> is the front
the same on the redstone i/o block as on the microcontroller?
L418[07:20:27] <Izaya> front is north,
probably
L419[07:20:59] <DFrostedWang> sides api
says back is north
L420[07:21:05] <DFrostedWang> so I have to
use north instead of back then?
L421[07:21:28] <DFrostedWang> I'm not even
using sides api, I'm using a table and numbers
L422[07:22:00] <DFrostedWang> So I'm
telling it to output on side 4 but it needs to be told east
L423[07:25:48] <DFrostedWang> huh, well it
was wrong anyway
L424[07:25:54] <DFrostedWang> whatever,
north is the front you were right
L425[07:29:59]
<Saghetti>
woah
L426[07:30:17]
<Saghetti>
legit had no idea that the tmpfs was an actual component
L427[07:30:32]
<Saghetti>
just thought it was created by OpenOS
L428[07:30:46] *
Izaya sighs, re-fills the bucket
L429[07:30:54]
<Saghetti>
is it persistent between reboots (not shutdowns)?
L430[07:31:12] <Izaya> yeah between
reboots
L431[07:31:17] <Izaya> hence using it to
test embedded firmware
L432[07:31:41]
<Saghetti>
that's nice
L433[07:31:52]
<Saghetti>
does it expand to use more memory, or does it have a fixed
size
L434[07:32:02] <Izaya> it's 64KB
L435[07:32:07] <Izaya> it does not use
memory
L436[07:32:46]
<Saghetti>
jaw drops
L437[07:32:50] <DFrostedWang> Izaya: So I
don't have sides on the microcontroller, right? I have the program
working on the computer now
L438[07:32:50]
<Saghetti>
excuse me
L439[07:32:51]
<Saghetti>
WHT
L440[07:32:54]
<Saghetti>
WHAT*
L441[07:32:59]
<Saghetti>
so basically
L442[07:33:03]
<Saghetti>
free swap space if i want
L443[07:33:06] <Izaya> yes
L444[07:33:18] <Izaya> DFrostedWang:
right, you just use the sides values
L445[07:33:28] <DFrostedWang> but that
wasn't working so uh... fingers crossed it does now?
L446[07:33:30] <Izaya> so if it's working
and you know it's working
L447[07:33:35] <Izaya> port it again
:D
L448[07:33:43]
<Saghetti>
hell yeah, tmpfs sounds awesome
L449[07:33:54] <DFrostedWang> how big is
memory anyway?
L450[07:34:07] <DFrostedWang> seems like
you have under 10kb of memory in most machines right?
L451[07:34:19] <DFrostedWang> that's a
huge swap area
L452[07:34:23] <Izaya> T1 is 192K
L453[07:34:26] <Izaya> T1.5 is 256K
L454[07:34:37] <DFrostedWang> oh geez, I'm
off by just one order of magnitude, nbd
L455[07:34:38] <Izaya> 384, 512, 768,
1024, IIRC
L456[07:34:57] <Izaya> T2, 2.5, 3, 3.5,
respectively
L458[07:35:09]
<Saghetti>
etc etc
L459[07:35:13] <Izaya> so you can get 4M
of memory in a T3 server
L460[07:35:19]
<Saghetti>
basically add 64kb for every half rier
L461[07:35:32]
<Saghetti>
tier*
L463[07:36:32] <Izaya> thinking I'll add
some sort of way to hint to the shell to display tables as a
table
L464[07:36:37] <Izaya> like, Lua tables,
as a table
L465[07:36:58] <Izaya> so you can return a
2D table with values and stuff, and the shell will print them, but
it'll still be usable by other programs
L466[07:37:03] <DFrostedWang> uh... so
maybe my problem I was having is that the front side isn't the one
facing you?
L467[07:37:09] <Izaya> maybe so
L468[07:37:13] <DFrostedWang> I thought it
was
L469[07:37:15] <Izaya> also, might not be
able to interact with that side
L470[07:37:32] <DFrostedWang> On a
microcontroller? Doesn't say anything about that on the page
L471[07:37:58] <DFrostedWang> No, that
makes no sense though 'cause the output on the far side was working
before
L472[07:38:09] <DFrostedWang> it was
taking input and outputting to regular redstone, but not the
bundled stuff
L473[07:38:13] <DFrostedWang> maybe
left/right are messed up?
L474[07:38:53] <Izaya> put lights on all
sides so you can see what's being input/output
L475[07:42:08] <DFrostedWang> can I just
make the assembler instant
L476[07:42:12] <DFrostedWang> it's
literally just boring waiting on it
L477[07:42:44] <Izaya> there's probably an
option in the config
L478[07:42:50] <Izaya> but I switch to
creative to hit assemble
L479[07:44:30] <DFrostedWang> so uh...
sides.back is the side facing away from you, sides.front is the
front... but sides.left is the right side facing the machine
L480[07:44:37] <DFrostedWang> so it's the
machine's left, not stage left
L481[07:44:39] <DFrostedWang> that's weird
though
L482[07:44:40] <DFrostedWang> af
L483[07:44:49] <Izaya> but it's the left
from the machine's perspective
L484[07:44:51] <DFrostedWang> easy to fix
though, swap left and right's numbers
L485[07:45:02] <Izaya> not your left,
their left
L486[07:46:19] <DFrostedWang> it's just
weird af because you place it facing you
L487[07:46:33] <DFrostedWang> robots are
placed facing away, and it makes more sense in their case for them
to act this way lol
L488[07:47:04] <DFrostedWang> thanks for
the tip on creative btw, did not know that was a thing
L489[07:47:10] <Izaya> I just use the
north/south/east/west values
L490[07:47:17] <Izaya> then place the uC
facing north
L491[07:47:57] <DFrostedWang> well it
works now, I'm finally on my way
L492[07:48:06] <Izaya> /o/
L493[07:48:10] <DFrostedWang> the code
works, it's just a matter of programming the other 60 or so
lights
L495[07:49:23] <Izaya> :D
L496[07:59:24]
<trashkev>
what was that package manager for openOS that someone mentioned a
bit ago
L497[07:59:30] <DFrostedWang> oppm
L498[08:00:20]
<trashkev>
yes how do i get that going
L499[08:00:30] <DFrostedWang> you can make
the floppy disk, check nei for the recipe
L500[08:00:34] <DFrostedWang> disk +
interweb = oppm disk
L501[08:00:43] <DFrostedWang> the computer
needs to have internet access too
L502[08:00:46] <DFrostedWang> so an
internet card
L503[08:00:51]
<trashkev>
okay
L504[08:00:54]
<trashkev>
tyty
L505[08:02:09] <DFrostedWang> oooh, now
that I've got bundled cables I should make the wheat farm tower
taller and light it up one floor at a time
L506[08:03:31]
<trashkev>
where in the directory can i access floppy disks that are in my
machine
L507[08:03:47] <DFrostedWang> oh you just
type install oppm
L508[08:03:53]
<trashkev>
oh gotcha
L509[08:04:26] <DFrostedWang> they would
probably be in /mnt btw
L510[08:04:31] <DFrostedWang> but yeah no
need to dig through the floppy
L511[08:06:50]
<trashkev>
ty : )
L512[08:14:55] <Lizzian> %tonk
L513[08:14:56] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Lizzian, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 7
hours, 5 minutes and 30 seconds this time. 6 hours, 23 minutes and
57 seconds were wasted! Missed by 41 minutes and 33 seconds!
L514[08:15:07] *
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L517[08:34:28]
<trashkev>
whats a good and easy button API on oppm?
L520[08:36:19]
<trashkev>
was just about to ask 😉 ty!
L521[08:36:34] <DFrostedWang> obviously
you need internet on the machine for that
L522[08:36:41] <DFrostedWang> but if you
have oppm you probably got that too :p
L523[08:36:46]
<trashkev>
yup
L524[08:37:52]
<trashkev>
is it common for people to use text editors outside of minecraft
(like sublime) to write code for opencomputers?
L525[08:38:00] <DFrostedWang> I'm doing
mine in notepad++ so yeah
L526[08:38:10] <DFrostedWang> and just use
the insert key to past
L527[08:38:12] <DFrostedWang> paste*
L528[08:38:26]
<trashkev>
isnt there a character limit to that though
L529[08:38:37] <DFrostedWang> idk, but
doing 200 lines takes a good few seconds
L530[08:39:15] <DFrostedWang> some people
have experimented with editing the same files the computers were
accessing... but that leads to interesting buffer issues and isn't
supported officially iirc
L531[08:39:21] <DFrostedWang> just
remember reading the bug reports on that one
L532[08:40:04]
<trashkev>
ok then
L533[08:40:07]
<trashkev>
ty
L534[08:46:46] <Izaya> disable buffering
in the config
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L536[08:56:05] <DFrostedWang> from what I
was reading, the guy was having some intermittent issues with files
not loading at all
L537[08:56:19] <DFrostedWang> but yeah
idk, just saying it's not officially supported
L538[08:56:24] <DFrostedWang> I edit then
paste
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L546[11:02:59]
<Bob> why
can't a motion sensor detect robots ?
L547[11:03:02]
<Bob>
:GWmythicalHyperREEEE:
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L549[11:05:38] <AmandaC> Because they're
not entities
L550[11:05:44] <AmandaC> They're literally
blocks
L551[11:06:09] <dequbed> I have to use a
virtual ground in this circuit and I feel the instinctive need to
apologize to said circuit... <.<
L552[11:07:41] <Izaya> AmandaC, Inari,
Elfi, you three seem like the people to ask, does MHW have suitable
options for cute characters
L553[11:09:53] <AmandaC> Monster hunter
worlds?
L554[11:10:21] <Izaya> that's the
one
L555[11:10:40]
<Bob> i
know they're blocks but still
L556[11:12:37] <Inari> @Izaya I mean,
depends on what you mean, but generally I'd say no :P
L557[11:13:08] <Izaya> ah well
L558[11:13:13] <Izaya> I'll see what I can
do
L559[11:13:17] <Inari> For one you can't
adjust the body at all
L560[11:13:21] <Inari> Unless you use mods
to change the model
L561[11:15:09] <AmandaC> Izaya: I've not
played so
L562[11:22:18] <Elfi> I've never played
either
L563[12:33:42]
<Daark> Is
there a way to list all the files you’ve made in lua
L564[12:36:08]
<ThePiGuy24> `ls`
L565[12:36:21]
<ThePiGuy24> that lists all the files in
the current directory
L566[12:37:08]
<ThePiGuy24> or do `ls *.lua` to only list
the loa files
L567[12:37:13]
<ThePiGuy24> or do `ls *.lua` to only list
the lua files [Edited]
L568[12:40:45]
<Daark>
Sorry I wasn’t clear enough but I meant in stand-alone lua, you can
write files using io.open and I was wondering if there was a way
for me to list them
L569[12:41:58]
<ThePiGuy24> by default io.write writes
out to the terminal, so you must have had a file open to write to
to do that
L570[12:42:13]
<Daark> Yes
I did
L571[12:42:37]
<ThePiGuy24> then the lua file should be
where you set the file as
L572[12:42:52]
<ThePiGuy24> i guess check the root
directory
L573[12:43:05]
<Daark>
?
L574[12:43:22]
<Daark> I
just want to list all the existing files
L575[12:43:43]
<ThePiGuy24> to list every file, do `tree
/`
L576[12:43:55]
<Daark> Not
in OC
L577[12:43:59]
<ThePiGuy24> oh
L578[12:44:03]
<Daark> In
lua
L579[12:44:08]
<ThePiGuy24> oh okay
L580[12:44:17]
<ThePiGuy24> not too sure then
L581[12:44:49]
<Daark> I’m
using it to make an OS for OC so they can be used for general
purposes instead of coding
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L584[13:04:28] <DFrostedWang> General
porpoise computing... in minecraft?
L585[13:04:32] <DFrostedWang> neat
L586[13:09:05]
<ThePiGuy24> mmm porpoises
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L593[13:13:30]
<Daark> Do
some of those bots interact with you ?
L594[13:13:48]
<Daark>
Like DFrostedWang
L595[13:14:04] <DFrostedWang> What do you
mean?
L596[13:14:25]
<Daark>
Like talk to you lol
L597[13:14:29] <dequbed> Daark. No. Just
no.
L598[13:14:57]
<Daark>
Um
L599[13:14:58] <dequbed> This is a bridge
to IRC.
L600[13:14:59]
<MGR>
@Daark It's a Discord to IRC bridge
L601[13:15:10]
<Daark>
What’s that?
L602[13:15:17]
<MGR> IRC
is another messaging protocol
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L605[13:15:24]
<Daark>
Oh
L606[13:15:25]
<MGR> It's
sort of like text only Discord, but older
L607[13:15:31] <dequbed> And not
shitty.
L608[13:15:33] <DFrostedWang> Internet
Relay Chat is a messaging protocol older than pretty much any
surviving messaging program
L609[13:15:40] <dequbed> OR owned by a
very very shitty company.
L610[13:16:02]
<Daark> So
they can almost understand what your saying
L611[13:16:07]
<Bob> Bruh
they aren't bots
L612[13:16:17]
<Bob> they
are just ppl on the IRC chat
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L614[13:16:25]
<Daark> Oh
lmao
L615[13:16:28]
<Bob> its
discord but for surreal people
L616[13:16:49] <DFrostedWang> This guy
over here trying to reverse turing test us
L617[13:17:00]
<Bob>
👀
L618[13:17:01] <DFrostedWang> maybe we
*are* just bots
L619[13:17:12] <Izaya> watching Discord is
usually a surreal experience for sure
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L621[13:17:18]
<Daark> Ok
I’m confused now lol
L622[13:17:35] <dequbed> DFrostedWang:
Bots are prohibited by Her Majesty Lizzian unless your owner has
proper permission. So. If you're a bot, get. out.
L623[13:17:48] <DFrostedWang> Error: ID10T
Not Configured
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L625[13:18:51] <Izaya> I like the way the
steam controller can be figured to lurch really hard when you pull
the triggers in all the way
L626[13:18:54]
<Daark>
lol
L627[13:18:59] <Izaya> feels like it has a
way beefier spring than it does
L628[13:19:17] <DFrostedWang> It's a real
beefy controller
L629[13:19:44] <DFrostedWang> it's like
the DS4 is too small and the new xbone pad has all the wrong
angles
L630[13:19:50] <dequbed> Aw shit I don't
have access to the mill at work now. I wanted to mill a HOTAS grip
<.<
L631[13:20:11] <Izaya> unironically the
best controller I've used so far
L632[13:20:14] <Izaya> but also it's
fuckin weird
L633[13:20:16] <Izaya> [x] good shit
L634[13:20:23] <DFrostedWang> been using
it since 2015
L635[13:20:32] <DFrostedWang> lol actually
right around when I stopped playing MC
L636[13:20:34] <Izaya> got one after it
went on closeout sale
L637[13:20:44] <Izaya> for $50
L638[13:20:45] <DFrostedWang> unfortunate
:(
L639[13:20:46] <Izaya> from china
L640[13:20:48] <Izaya> without
dongle
L641[13:20:50] <Izaya> because
australia
L642[13:20:54] <Izaya> I'm not paying
fucking $90
L643[13:20:57] <DFrostedWang> They've
pretty much been abandoned, but we still hold out hope for a
v2
L644[13:21:13] <DFrostedWang> I paid $30 +
free game the first time, and $20 used the second time
L645[13:21:23] <DFrostedWang> they were
constantly on sale here at gamestop
L646[13:21:28] <Izaya> might have to stock
up on em tbh
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L648[13:21:39] <Izaya> I feel they're
going to get increasingly hard to find
L649[13:21:40] <DFrostedWang> yeah valve
sold out of them recently-ish
L650[13:21:48] <Izaya> and I'd really like
to be able to use them wirelessly
L651[13:21:49] <DFrostedWang> last month
or so I want to say
L652[13:22:09] <DFrostedWang> Wireless is
fantastic because you can do I think 16 controllers on one
dongle
L653[13:22:15] <DFrostedWang> it's some
ludicrous number
L654[13:22:25] <DFrostedWang> and if you
have a steam link, you don't need a dongle for it FYI
L655[13:23:26] <dequbed> NEW from Valve!
Now you can jam 16 controllers *at once*! Only here!
L656[13:23:40] <DFrostedWang> Well I think
maybe one or two games could actually use that
L657[13:24:21] <DFrostedWang> honestly
there's no reason *not* to allow the user to jam as many on one
dongle as they want, unless you're selling dongles for a
profit...
L658[13:24:39] <dequbed> Jam as in make
not work.
L659[13:24:45] <DFrostedWang> oh lol
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L661[13:25:07] <dequbed> IDFC how many you
connect via RF as long as mine is using a cable.
L662[13:25:24] <DFrostedWang> They work
very well with each other on the same dongle -- problem is any
other type of controller. If you have a dozen steam controllers
connected it's all fine, but 11 + one 360 controller and nothing
works
L663[13:25:32] <DFrostedWang> sometimes,
depending on the game anyway
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L665[13:27:02] <Elfi> I feel like there's
something a certain fox would say about jamming dozens of things in
at once
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L667[13:27:23]
<ThePiGuy24> i do love how IRC has lasted
so long
L668[13:27:32] <dequbed> If you're talking
about me that would be "jam *ALL* the things".
L669[13:27:35]
<ThePiGuy24> its unkillabke
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L671[13:27:37]
<ThePiGuy24> its unkillable [Edited]
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L674[13:28:23] <Elfi> IRC will never
die
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L677[13:28:47] <Elfi> And Discord is lucky
it found a monetization model that worked, otherwise you'd all be
here
L678[13:28:55] <DFrostedWang> Why does
this channel have such a small size limit? :(
L679[13:29:00] <DFrostedWang> name size
limit* I mean
L680[13:29:24] <Elfi> That's EsperNet
itself
L681[13:29:26] <dequbed> Because Esper is
sensible.
L682[13:29:33]
<MGR> No,
#oc sets a name limit
L683[13:29:35] <DFrostedWang> No, it's not
-- I'm in a lot of channels on esper that don't ban my alt
nick
L684[13:29:37]
<MGR>
Otherwise you get muted
L685[13:29:47] <Elfi> Ah, must be a
special ban entry
L686[13:29:48] <DFrostedWang> yeah it's
just way lower than other channels for some reason
L687[13:29:48]
<MGR> It's
because of mobile clients I believe
L688[13:29:58] <Elfi> I just pulled up the
normal mode list
L689[13:30:59] <Elfi> Either way, at least
it isn't EFnet
L690[13:31:17] <Elfi> You could barely
squeeze in an AFK without abbreviating your nick
L691[13:31:22] <DFrostedWang> I grew up on
freenode... crazy how different all of the servers are though
huh
L692[13:31:34] <DFrostedWang> esper is
pretty chill tbh compared to many places
L693[13:31:38] <Elfi> Excepting myself,
anyway c:
L694[13:31:56] <Elfi> I used to be on
Esper in the old days, before minecraft and pesterchum
L695[13:32:12] <dequbed> Elfi: Or you just
don't change your nick :P
L696[13:32:25] <DFrostedWang> I literally
have no idea what pesterchum is
L697[13:32:38] <Elfi> Back when it was
mostly roleplaying channels and the Esper part of EsperNet meant
the term in Final Fantasy
L698[13:32:57] <DFrostedWang> probably a
little before my time... didn't get internet until 2009 or so
L699[13:33:09] <Elfi> DFW, it was an MSPA
chat that brought some life into the network
L700[13:33:24] <Elfi> During the homestuck
days as it were
L701[13:34:03] <Elfi> I didn't care much
for it. Between the new crowd and the netsplits I took #cleverPun
and left for my own network >>
L702[13:34:21] <Elfi> Esper was
hilariously unstable back then
L703[13:34:35] <dequbed> Wasn't
everything?
L704[13:34:41] <Elfi> No.
L705[13:34:43] <dequbed> Compared to now
that is.
L706[13:34:53] <dequbed> Esper was in a
class of it's own, I know.
L707[13:35:16] <DFrostedWang> freenode
used to have splits last for multiple days
L708[13:35:18] <Elfi> The Minecraft crowd
brought people willing to host new, better IRC servers
L709[13:36:07] <DFrostedWang> you could
say the same for the ubuntu crowd on freenode but uh... still
annoyed they banned me for my nick being offensive. After I'd been
there two years.
L710[13:36:10] <Elfi> I think anarchy is
the oldest Esper server still online, in fact.
L711[13:36:32] <Elfi> Gone are the days of
neskaya, dream, chocobo, cosmos...
L712[13:36:34] <DFrostedWang> sometimes
"better" doesn't mean I wouldn't have preferred it the
other way y'know
L713[13:37:05] <DFrostedWang> some of the
minecraft crowd here are real uptight
L714[13:37:21] <Elfi> Gone are the days
where one of the IRCops was literally named Scarmiglion and
participated in the roleplaying channels same as anyone else
L715[13:37:43] <DFrostedWang> what do they
even do these days
L716[13:37:57] <Elfi> Scarmiglion? Or the
IRCops in general?
L717[13:38:04] <DFrostedWang> the
latter
L718[13:38:27] <DFrostedWang> it looks
like a shitty tier2 tech support job to me
L719[13:38:27] <Elfi> Sit in #dragonweyr
and stay mostly hands-off with the new crowd, I assume
L720[13:38:43] <DFrostedWang> er, wait,
sorry, am I allowed to swear
L721[13:38:56] <Elfi> Or do you mean in a
much more general sense?
L722[13:39:55] <Elfi> Because IRCops do
include moderating and enforcing codes of conduct, while netadmins
and server admins are additionally tasked with maintenance and
upkeep of the servers
L723[13:43:01] <DFrostedWang> Sorry to
change topic but what's the best way to automatically farm
sugarcane?
L724[13:43:37] <DFrostedWang> I'm
currently using redstone wire on a timer but is there a way to
detect when they actually grow?
L725[13:43:59]
<MGR>
🤔
L726[13:44:10]
<MGR> You
could maybe use a geolyzer to detect the hardness change
L727[13:44:23]
<MGR>
Depends on if air is fuzzy or not
L728[13:44:44] <Izaya> IE cloches
L729[13:45:07] <dequbed> DFrostedWang:
BUDs?
L730[13:45:25] <DFrostedWang> I haven't
played seriously since 1.7.10 was the latest update
L731[13:45:33] <dequbed> They existed back
then as well.
L732[13:45:36] <DFrostedWang> guess I
should look into how to build a BUD lol
L733[13:45:48] <dequbed> In new versions
it's a block.
L734[13:45:49] <DFrostedWang> yeah but
stuff like that changes depending on the version, as minecraft
often screws with how redstone stuff works
L735[13:45:59] <DFrostedWang> oh?
L736[13:46:19]
<MGR> It
is
L737[13:47:30]
<Bob> is
the hologram translation block based or pixelbased ?
L738[13:47:31] <DFrostedWang> can I just
program a component to be a BUD like maybe an adapter?
L739[13:47:38] <DFrostedWang> lol
component.sugarcane_plant
L740[13:47:52] <DFrostedWang> actually I
could maybe program a robot to be one...
L741[13:49:41] <Elfi> There's literally a
vanilla block called the Observer
L742[13:49:52] <DFrostedWang> oh?
L743[13:50:03] <DFrostedWang> see this is
what I mean by I haven't played since 1.7
L744[13:50:06] <Elfi> Yeah, that's the BUD
they're talking about
L745[13:50:09] <DFrostedWang> when did
this guy come around
L746[13:50:34] <Elfi> Backported from
bedrock around 1.10 I think
L747[13:50:38]
<Ocawesome101> 1.11
L748[13:50:44]
<Ocawesome101> Possibly 1.11.2
L749[13:50:45] <Elfi> Close enough
L750[13:51:54]
<Ocawesome101> I bought Minecraft at
1.10.2 and remember being hyped when 1.11 came out
L751[13:52:18] <DFrostedWang> I bought it
at 1.6.4 and have only been disappointed in updates
L752[13:52:34] <DFrostedWang> observer is
nice I guess
L753[13:53:12] <DFrostedWang> I remember
seeing andesite and diorite, etc all over the place in 1.8 and
hating how useless they were
L754[13:53:29] <DFrostedWang> now there
are mods to make them useful in crafting but they were awful out of
the gate
L755[13:54:35]
<MGR> I
bought it at 1.7.2
L756[14:08:35]
<Bob> i
just recently got an account 👀
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L760[14:35:30]
<Bob> Why
is that offset
L761[14:35:32]
<Bob> this
is so bad
L762[14:35:34]
<Bob> it
ruins everything
L763[14:35:54]
<Bob> also
translations are only by full blocks ?
L764[14:37:03]
<Bob> Y
translation can be done by not full blocks
L765[14:37:11]
<Bob> but x
and z are just utterly frickd
L766[14:43:09]
<Bob>
chess, now not a reality anymore
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L770[15:23:15]
<Bob> can
anyone tell me why the hologram is broken like that tough
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L772[15:27:45] <Izaya> well
L773[15:27:49] <Izaya> MHW: Fun.
L774[15:28:02] <Izaya> The eternal black
bars at the top and bottom of my screen? Not fun.
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L778[16:30:58] <jackie> Inari: wow
xD
L780[16:37:44] <MichiBot> Fri Mar 20
10:16:52 CDT 2020 @devolverdigital: Devolver Digital is closed
today so that employees can spend time with loved ones,
specifically @DOOM and… <
https://t.co/ifHLqsR1Il>
L781[16:45:45]
<AdorableCatgirl> yall have room
temperature IQ
L782[16:45:46]
<AdorableCatgirl> in rankine
L783[16:46:10]
<Daark>
Anyone here really experienced with OpenComputers? There is an
error which is probably OpenOS's fault and not mine
L784[16:46:10]
<Daark>
that nobody can seem to find a fix for so I am asking here.
L785[16:47:04] <Michiyo> just post the
issue, if someone knows whats up they'll answer
L786[16:47:20]
<Daark>
Yeah ik I was typing bc I realized I was asking to ask
L787[16:47:36] <Michiyo> If no one can
figure it out we'll summon the great and powerful payonel
L788[16:47:48] <Inari> Mayonel~
L789[16:48:16]
<Sketamine>
i think ive had this problem before but how do i make a file in a
script
L790[16:48:34]
<Sketamine>
id usually just io.open but that returns null if it doesnt
exist
L791[16:49:19]
<Daark> I
have a problem in my OpenOS program where if you delete a file it
still exists, it wasn't just in my one program where I realized
this, it was even in a test program I made. I made the file using
io.open(), and deleted it the first time using os.remove() and the
other time using fs.remove() to see if that would work. So far
nobody has found a fix for this, it is a really annoying
"bug" and probably (but could still be) isn't my own
error.
L792[16:50:05]
<Daark> If
tested to see if it is still there, it will return true, because it
was not deleted.
L793[16:50:23]
<Daark>
Though no errors will display, it just simply doesn't delete
it.
L794[16:51:08]
<Daark>
Please let me know if anyone knows or finds out how to fix this
issue.
L796[16:54:10]
<Daark>
?
L797[16:54:23]
<Sketamine>
unless im doing something wrong i cant even create a file
L798[16:54:42]
<Daark> you
arent writing the file
L800[16:55:06]
<Daark>
that makes a file if the file doesnt already exist
L801[16:55:13]
<Daark> oh
nvm
L802[16:55:15]
<Daark> you
are using w
L803[16:55:17]
<Daark>
huh
L804[16:55:18]
<Daark>
wth
L805[16:55:38]
<Daark> do
it in a script and not in the interactive prompt @Sketamine
L806[16:56:47]
<Sketamine>
it wasnt working in the script which is why i moved to the prompt
for testing
L807[16:56:58]
<Daark>
thats weird.
L808[16:57:03]
<Sketamine>
added a .txt extension onto the end and it seemed to work...
L809[16:57:28]
<Daark>
interesting
L810[17:01:41]
<Daark> OH
YAY
L811[17:01:43]
<Daark> I
FIXED IT
L812[17:01:44]
<Daark> IM
SO DUMB
L813[17:01:48]
<Daark> i
didnt put the path lolol
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<Ocawesome101> what kind of bird is
that?
L820[17:51:16] <Inari> An owl of some
sort?
L821[17:52:11] <Elfi> That is definitely
som emanner of horned owl
L822[17:54:13]
<AdorableCatgirl> rip the abomination
730
L823[18:15:24] <AmandaC> rip and
tear?
L824[18:17:27]
<AdorableCatgirl> wut
L827[18:51:32]
<iZero559>
hello people
L828[18:52:09]
<iZero559>
is agricraft compatibility with opencomputers now a thing?
L829[18:53:10]
<iZero559>
because i can't get it to work. and mr google says that the issue
is on agricraft's side
L830[18:57:46] <dequbed> %blame
jackie
L831[18:57:46] *
MichiBot blames jackie for ruptured tires
L832[19:01:31]
<iZero559>
Tag me if anyone knows anything
L833[19:02:03]
<AdorableCatgirl> i had a man get
extremely tilted
L834[19:02:11]
<AdorableCatgirl> over my username in gta
online
L835[19:02:17]
<AdorableCatgirl> and the fact i said i
had a "weeb car"
L836[19:02:31]
<AdorableCatgirl> so i ran him over with a
lada
L837[19:02:37]
<AdorableCatgirl> at 120mph
L838[19:02:40]
<AdorableCatgirl> blasting gas gas
gas
L839[19:02:51]
<AdorableCatgirl> and left him with
"DO YOU LIKE MY CAR"
L840[19:03:45]
<Ocawesome101> xD
L841[19:03:55]
<AdorableCatgirl> my game then
crashed
L842[19:03:56]
<AdorableCatgirl> :(
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L845[20:15:25] <simon816> %tonk
L846[20:15:26] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle!
simon816! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 7 hours, 5
minutes and 30 seconds (By 4 hours, 54 minutes and 58 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L847[20:15:27] <MichiBot> simon816's new
record is 12 hours and 29 seconds! simon816 also gained 0.03936
(0.00492 x 8) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #4. Need
0.00816 more points to pass Forecaster!
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L849[20:39:59] <samis> tfw ZNC down and
the nickserv password for this network is apparently
different.
L850[20:45:50]
<Ocawesome101> Proton's `io` library is
now actually compliant and no longer necessitates the weird hack I
had going on :D
L851[20:49:22] <Skye> samis, you're
CompanionCube right? :P
L852[20:49:31] <samis> well, yes.
L853[20:49:38] <Skye> yay I remember
L854[20:49:42] <Skye> it's been a long
time since we've talked
L855[20:49:44] <Skye> how have you
been?
L856[20:49:58] <samis> eh, not so great
recently. But not for the obvious reason.
L857[20:50:10]
<Bob>
👀
L858[20:51:26] <Skye> I presume obvious
would be the pandemic going on?
L859[20:51:30] <Skye> London is weird
right now
L860[20:51:34] <Skye> everything feels
wrong
L861[21:09:27] <samis> how weird/
L862[21:13:29]
<Ocawesome101> I just managed to crash
bash lmao
L863[21:14:24]
<Ocawesome101> type `echo \` and keep
pressing `enter` then the up arrow repeatedly. I tried piping it
into `wc` and then it crashed
L864[21:19:49] <samis> that looks very
exponentinal
L865[21:19:53] <samis> like a
forkbomb
L866[21:22:22]
<Ocawesome101> yep
L867[21:22:24]
<Ocawesome101> basically
L868[21:22:32]
<Ocawesome101> except, it's not a
forkbomb
L869[21:22:38]
<Ocawesome101> more like a processbomb
lol
L870[21:24:57] <Elfi> Nah, if you want the
classic bash forkbomb...
L871[21:25:18]
<Ocawesome101> `:(){:|:&};:`
L872[21:25:24] <Elfi> Yep
L873[21:25:50]
<Ocawesome101> who knew 11 characters
could house so much trouble?
L874[21:25:52]
<Brisingr
Aerowing> I'm rather curious as to how that works.
L875[21:26:05]
<Brisingr
Aerowing> Bash is weird.
L876[21:26:15]
<Ocawesome101> Let me type if out in
non-cryptic form
L878[21:28:33]
<Ocawesome101> there ya go
L879[21:28:47]
<Ocawesome101> that's basically how it
works
L880[21:29:22]
<20kdc>
there's some interesting tricks going on with the :
L881[21:29:51]
<Ocawesome101> does `:` not show up as a
process or smth?
L882[21:30:18]
<20kdc> no,
the : just has special syntax properties
L883[21:30:25]
<Ocawesome101> ah
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<20kdc>
...either that or the compressed version you gave doesn't work, I
can't quite tell without activating it...
L887[21:32:55]
<20kdc>
...it treats "{:" as a single token
L888[21:33:45]
<20kdc> for
some reason I can only guess is related to forkbombs
L889[21:33:51]
<Ocawesome101> oh the version I gave
works
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<Ocawesome101> I've tested it
L892[21:33:58] <jesuisgentils> hey
L893[21:34:09] <jesuisgentils> its
awesome
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L902[22:34:27] <AmandaC> %blame
@Forecaster
L903[22:34:27] *
MichiBot blames @Forecaster for Inari's lewdness!
L904[22:34:31] <AmandaC> <+MichiBot>
AmandaC: "[choice}", now with 30% fewer deaths caused by
negligence!
L905[22:59:25]
<DaComputerNerd> %sip
L906[22:59:26] <MichiBot> You drink a sour
aluminium potion (New!). As DaComputerNerd drinks the potion they
become the target of a wad of llama spit! They fail to evade it
with a 7 vs DC 12 and takes 1d4 => 1 damage.
L907[22:59:42]
<DaComputerNerd> ....
L908[23:11:32]
<Forecaster> it's pride damage
L909[23:11:52]
<Forecaster> Amanda: including the
mismatched brackets? :P
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L912[23:15:26] <Michiyo> @Forecaster yes,
that was a direct copy/paste
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L916[23:20:06]
<Forecaster> oh, I thought it was a
suggestion
L917[23:20:45]
<Forecaster> helps if you tell me it's a
bug
L918[23:23:44] <AmandaC> I thought it was
clear from the%blame beforehand, sorry
L919[23:23:59] <AmandaC> I only %blame
@Forecaster when MichiBot does something unexpected\
L920[23:24:23]
<Forecaster> yeah I don't really react to
that anymore
L921[23:24:40]
<Forecaster> also "unexpected"
is not the same as wrong
L922[23:38:50]
<The_Stargazer> %tonk
L923[23:38:52] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
The_Stargazer, you were not able to beat simon816's record of 12
hours and 29 seconds this time. 3 hours, 23 minutes and 25 seconds
were wasted! Missed by 8 hours, 37 minutes and 4 seconds!
L924[23:39:04]
<The_Stargazer> that is a large
record
L925[23:43:04]
<The_Stargazer> i wonder what kinda magic
window hacks the technic launcher uses to make it's loading window
(the logo) not be a full rectangle
L926[23:43:34]
<The_Stargazer> it's a circular window
with bits missing, basically
L927[23:44:06]
<Forecaster> windows can not display the
regular window border and controls, and just contain a transparent
image
L928[23:44:53]
<The_Stargazer> oh neat
L929[23:47:40]
<FLORANA>
is there a way to access a raid as unmanaged?
L930[23:48:34]
<FLORANA>
is there a way to access a raid as unmanaged/a drive component?
[Edited]
L931[23:48:42]
<FLORANA>
is there a way to access a raid as unmanaged(a drive component)?
[Edited]
L932[23:48:51]
<Forecaster> I believe harddrives in a
raid can be unmanaged?
L933[23:48:54]
<Forecaster> not sure though
L934[23:49:21]
<FLORANA>
they can be unmanaged but... every time i try to lookup the file
can
L935[23:49:30]
<FLORANA>
*can't find it, i only find filesystem
L936[23:50:54]
<trashkev>
hey whats that mod that lets you have colored cables that take up 1
block but have like 9 cables connected
L937[23:51:01]
<trashkev>
for redstone cables
L938[23:51:06]
<FLORANA>
projectRed
L939[23:51:09]
<trashkev>
tyty
L940[23:52:42]
<Galaxy>
1.14 uPdAtE wHeN?????????????????/
L941[23:53:46] <AmandaC> NeVeR
L942[23:53:59]
<trashkev>
okay ik this is probably very complicated and probably impossible
but
L943[23:54:13]
<Galaxy>
woah a sentient bot
L944[23:54:30]
<trashkev>
has anyone ever mixed real life Google Assistant or Alexa with
openComputers?
L945[23:54:35]
<Forecaster> %corded
L946[23:54:36] <AmandaC> Woah, a sentient
child.
L947[23:54:36] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
Corded is a relay between IRC and Discord. The user talking is
between the <>
L948[23:54:37]
<trashkev>
i wonder if there's a way to do that
L949[23:54:55]
<Forecaster> hm
L950[23:55:06]
<Galaxy>
How does the bot impersonate people then?
L951[23:55:12]
<FLORANA>
it doesn't
L952[23:55:13]
<MGR> It's
just a relay
L953[23:55:15]
<Forecaster> need a separate one of those
for webhook mode
L954[23:55:16]
<MGR>
They're not bots
L955[23:55:56]
<FLORANA>
hey MGR
L956[23:55:57] <AmandaC> Beep boop -- I
mean, what @MGR said
L957[23:56:10]
<MGR>
Hey
L958[23:56:28]
<Galaxy>
but like the bot changes the name and pfp as it goes
L959[23:56:35]
<MGR>
Yes
L960[23:56:37]
<MGR>
Because it's a relay
L961[23:56:43]
<MGR> And
webhooks can do that
L962[23:56:54]
<Galaxy>
webhooks.
L963[23:56:58]
<Galaxy>
that explains it
L964[23:57:21]
<FLORANA>
basicly you can have a program send a message to discord and it
shows up with the bot text
L965[23:57:34]
<FLORANA>
the program takes IRC chat and puts it into discord
L966[23:57:45]
<Galaxy> i
get that
L967[23:57:48]
<FLORANA>
the same goes the other way around
L968[23:58:07]
<Galaxy> i
didnt realize there were a million webhooks the bot was
adding
L969[23:58:15]
<FLORANA>
`@Corded#2460` is the bot that controls the webhooks
L970[23:58:16]
<MGR> It's
all one webhook
L971[23:58:17] <AmandaC> Just one
L972[23:58:23]
<Galaxy>
wat
L973[23:58:33] <AmandaC> Webhooks accept
avatar and names
L974[23:58:37]
<ThePiGuy24> yes
L975[23:58:51]
<Galaxy> so
you can send the name with the message and it does the thing?
L976[23:58:54]
<FLORANA> 1
webhook can be multiple different profile images and
usernames
L977[23:59:07]
<FLORANA>
but they all have no real discord ID thus bot
L978[23:59:26]
<FLORANA>
but they all have no real discord ID thus bot appears
[Edited]
L980[23:59:52]
<FLORANA>
but MGR do you know how to see a `component.drive` with a
raid