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<Forecaster> sigh...
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<Ocawesome101> %tonk
L4[00:24:37] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
Ocawesome101! You beat Lizzian's previous record of 7 hours, 56
minutes and 25 seconds (By 24 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L5[00:24:38] <MichiBot> Ocawesome101's new
record is 8 hours, 21 minutes and 15 seconds! Ocawesome101 also
gained 0.00328 (0.00041 x 8) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #5. Need 0.11393 more points to pass simon816!
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L14[07:18:59] <CompanionCube> Izaya: here's
something i never thought about until now: is thunderbird's
relationship with firefox the same as an electron app's
relationship with chromium
L15[07:19:37] <CompanionCube> xulrunner is
dead so there's no longer a direct equivalence here but
still.
L16[08:15:27]
<Forecaster> %tonk
L17[08:15:28] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Forecaster, you were not able to beat Ocawesome101's record of 8
hours, 21 minutes and 15 seconds this time. 7 hours, 50 minutes and
50 seconds were wasted! Missed by 30 minutes and 24 seconds!
L18[08:15:43] <Michiyo> blergh...
L19[08:16:01] <Michiyo> well
L20[08:16:06] <Michiyo> I can go to bed
now
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<Forecaster> yay
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<Forecaster> %sip
L27[10:19:55] <MichiBot> You drink a shiny
aegisalt potion (New!). When Forecaster brings the bottle down
they see A Metal colored plastic flamingo. It stares into their
soul.
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<Forecaster> I wish ONI had gravity fluid
collection
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<Z0idburg>
GOOD MORNING
L39[14:24:39] <Izaya> Good ...
morning
L40[14:24:41] *
Izaya squints
L41[14:32:08]
<AdorableCatgirl> good nearly noon
L42[14:32:19]
<ThePiGuy24> good nearly evening
L43[14:34:03] <Elfi> idc what time it is,
I'm sleepy
L45[14:37:12]
<Forecaster> {time}
L46[14:48:40] ***
NovaLynxie is now known as NovaLynxie_OTG
L47[14:49:07] <Inari> Neat, we can slow
light down to 17 meters per second
L48[14:49:16]
<ThePiGuy24> cool?
L49[14:49:44] <Inari> You're cool
L50[14:50:08]
<ThePiGuy24> %lua
os.date("%H:%M:%S")
L51[14:50:08] <MichiBot> 09:50:08
L53[14:52:21]
<ThePiGuy24> %lua
os.date("%H:%M:%S", os.time()+18000)
L54[14:52:21] <MichiBot> 14:52:21
L55[14:52:28]
<ThePiGuy24> there thats correct now
L56[14:56:28]
<Ocawesome101> Ew, 24hr notation
L57[14:56:50] <Izaya> I know, right?
L58[14:56:53] <Izaya> get rid of those
:s
L59[14:56:57] <Izaya> 1452
L60[14:59:35]
<ThePiGuy24> Imagine having time repeat
itself through the day
L61[14:59:55]
<ThePiGuy24> why is 12 hour even a
thing?
L62[15:00:02] <Izaya> blame the ancient
sumerians
L63[15:02:04]
<Forecaster> because analog clocks?
L64[15:02:22] <Inari> You could divide a
circle into 24 hours
L65[15:02:41]
<Forecaster> no kidding
L66[15:02:59]
<Forecaster> but then the clock would have
to run half as fast, and maybe that was difficult
L68[15:03:33]
<Forecaster> while maintaining as much
accuracy as possible
L69[15:04:06]
<ThePiGuy24> literally just half the
rotational speed
L70[15:04:15] <Inari> I'd figure it's more
of an influence from sundials, but no clue
L71[15:04:17]
<ThePiGuy24> that would actually increase
accuracy
L72[15:05:28]
<AdorableCatgirl> imagine 12h time
L73[15:06:33] <Inari> Imagine not using
Swatch internet time
L74[15:06:55] <dequbed> ... Because
sundials can only display during half of the day so they are 12h
you guys =.=
L75[15:07:03] <Inari> See
L76[15:07:09] <Inari> Thats why I figured
it's influence from sundials
L77[15:07:10] <Inari> \o/
L78[15:07:13] <dequbed> Also why clockwise
is clockwise and not the other way around. SUNDIALS.
L79[15:07:24] <Izaya> if it's time related
I just blame the ancient sumerians unconditionally
L80[15:07:26] <Inari> I don't get that
part
L81[15:07:33] <Inari> Would'nt it depend on
the hemispehre
L82[15:07:40]
<Forecaster> I don't believe in sundials,
it's just a conspiracy
L83[15:07:44] <dequbed> Fun fact, if rome
would have been on the southern hemisphere we would now have a
reverse clock direction.
L84[15:08:08] <Inari> I wonder how well you
could adapt to Swatch internet time if you tried
L85[15:08:18] <Inari> Like, would it come
naturally to know which itme it is and such
L86[15:09:23]
<ThePiGuy24> @Forecaster Hah, you belive
in the sun?
L87[15:09:29] <dequbed> Izaya: If you want
somebody to blame for something, blame the french for the shitty
decimal system.
L88[15:09:54]
<Z0idburg>
All numbers should be in base 0
L89[15:09:55]
<ThePiGuy24> use binary or hex, fuck
anything else
L90[15:10:02] <dequbed> Duodecimal, fuck
hex.
L91[15:10:11] <dequbed> Hex is only good
for computers.
L92[15:10:12] <Izaya> 20?
L93[15:10:18] <Inari> The sun is a well
known hoax
L94[15:10:25]
<ThePiGuy24> base 0 requires an infinite
amount of data to store anything
L95[15:10:31] <dequbed> Izaya: base
12
L96[15:10:33]
<Z0idburg>
Exactly
L97[15:10:34] <Inari> What you see is
actually ligth reflected from the moon
L98[15:10:45]
<ThePiGuy24> base 1 is usually reffered to
as a tally
L99[15:10:53] <dequbed> Inari: Reflected by
.. what exactly? :p
L100[15:11:13]
<Forecaster> a giant round mirror floating
in space, duh
L101[15:11:17]
<Forecaster> :P
L102[15:11:35]
<ThePiGuy24> no the moon is cheese
L103[15:11:38] <Inari> dequbed: A silver
ball the size of the sun
L104[15:11:38]
<AdorableCatgirl> reflected by the eyes of
the moon goblins
L105[15:11:56]
<Forecaster> the cheese could be
bioluminescent
L106[15:12:04]
<ThePiGuy24> yes
L107[15:12:10] <dequbed> Inari: Now I
don't want to be too skeptical, but wouldn't a silver ball the size
of the sun just be a black hole?
L108[15:12:24]
<ThePiGuy24> no
L109[15:12:27]
<ThePiGuy24> not dense enough
L110[15:12:29]
<Forecaster> I imagined more of a
disc
L111[15:12:45] <dequbed> @ThePiGuy By how
much?
L112[15:16:27]
<Forecaster> partial names don't
ping
L113[15:16:34]
<Z0idburg>
I've been looking into some remote jobs or so
L114[15:16:55] <Izaya> hey S3
L115[15:16:57] <Izaya> get this
L116[15:17:24] <Izaya> some madlad in a
honda accord tailed me in the twisties at ludicrous speed
today
L117[15:17:42]
<Z0idburg>
so I decided to check out C# even though I don't care for OOP much.
I looked at it for a bit and said, do I even need to learn this?
Everything here is self explanatory and there's very little I'm
reading that I didn't already know or could have already typed
lol
L118[15:17:45]
<Z0idburg>
Oh?
L119[15:18:08]
<Z0idburg>
What were you driving?
L120[15:18:13] <Izaya> I was on a fuckin
ZZR250
L121[15:18:32] <Izaya> basically the ideal
vehicle for mountain pass roads
L122[15:18:35]
<Z0idburg>
lol
L123[15:18:41] <Izaya> and I couldn't pull
away
L124[15:19:39] <Izaya> and it was proper
twisty too, zero straight lines
L125[15:19:50] <Izaya> they were either a
very good driver, or a very dumb driver
L126[15:19:52] <Izaya> perhaps both
L127[15:21:52]
<DaComputerNerd> C# does have some nice
things
L128[15:21:57]
<DaComputerNerd> some lovely syntax
sugar
L129[15:22:23]
<DaComputerNerd> using blocks, null
propagation and coalescence, etc
L130[15:22:51]
<DaComputerNerd> I also like the
async/await system
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<Ocawesome101> Ah yes
L134[15:23:57] <dequbed> @ThePiGuy24 I
just did the math. Assuming the density stays at 10.49g/cm^3 (which
*is* bs tbf) the schwarzschild-radius of a silver ball the size of
the sun would be ... small. So yeah, not a black hole. Then again,
that's not how gravity works either.
L135[15:24:01]
<Ocawesome101> Microsoft Java
L136[15:24:38] <dequbed> C#'s best feature
is that you can drop it and replace it with F# and F*.
L137[15:24:57] <dequbed> Aka Microsoft
Scala & Microsoft Coq
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<Z0idburg>
lol
L139[15:25:27]
<DaComputerNerd> that's VB's best
feature
L140[15:25:42]
<Z0idburg>
They should have nuked basic in 1964
L141[15:25:56] <dequbed> They did,
together with COBOL. And FORTRAN.
L142[15:26:09]
<Z0idburg>
not enough
L143[15:26:32] <dequbed> The only way to
nuke any of those enough is by nuking ourselves into the bronze
age.
L144[15:27:33]
<DaComputerNerd> cobol is still used by
some businesses, apparently young people who know it can make quite
a lot of money
L145[15:27:56] <dequbed> Old people who
know it can too.
L146[15:28:21]
<Z0idburg>
yeah
L147[15:28:31]
<DaComputerNerd> ok
L148[15:29:01]
<DaComputerNerd> i dont know cobol and am
not a masochist so I didn't look into it beyond the conversation I
learned that much from
L149[15:29:02]
<Z0idburg>
I looked into possibly finding some jobs in Elixir, but the trouble
is a lot of Elixir jobs are Phoenix framework oriented
L150[15:29:07]
<Z0idburg>
and I don't really care about Phoenix
L151[15:29:31]
<Z0idburg>
Mostly because I don't care a lot about the web
L152[15:30:14]
<Z0idburg>
I was a web developer a few different times and I always hated
it
L153[15:31:24]
<AdorableCatgirl> i've done webdev
stuff
L154[15:31:26]
<AdorableCatgirl> it sux
L155[15:31:40]
<AdorableCatgirl> tho i've mainly used
lua
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L157[15:44:38] <dequbed> @ThePiGuy24 I'm
having way too much fun with this. So we can treat a sun-shaped
silver ball as kind of a white dwarf because there isn't much
fusion going on with an element this heavy. So considering the
Chandrasekhar limit we can see that sadly this silver ball wouldn't
exactly be stable but would collapse.
L158[15:45:12]
<ThePiGuy24> hmmm
L159[15:45:17]
<ThePiGuy24> interestinh
L160[15:45:19]
<ThePiGuy24> g
L161[15:45:25] <dequbed> This is kind of a
problem because well we want a super cool shiny mirror ball, not a
dark ghastly black hole.
L162[15:45:44] <Izaya> honeycomb structure
internally
L163[15:46:11] <dequbed> Exactly.
L164[15:47:04] <dequbed> If you manage to
get the density down a bit you can keep the core from collapsing
and taking everything with it.
L165[15:47:30] <Izaya> How much gravity
would it have?
L166[15:47:41] <dequbed> YES.
L167[15:47:55] *
Izaya notes down: "Gravity: Yes."
L168[15:47:59] <dequbed> No, seriously,
singularity level.
L169[15:48:34] <dequbed> More like
Gravity: NO. because we're in Unified Force theory area there and
gravity kinda isn't a thing anymore.
L170[15:48:55] <dequbed> Gravity: Maybe.
We don't know.
L171[15:49:18] <Izaya> Gravity: Not
specified.
L172[15:49:25] <Izaya> Or even
better
L173[15:49:27]
<ThePiGuy24> Gravity: pay $199.99/mo to
unlock this feature
L174[15:49:30] <Izaya> Gravity: Not
Applicable.
L175[15:50:01] <dequbed> If you can get
the density down an order of magnitude or so you'll end up somewhat
neutron star... ish? Probably? I haven't tried tbh. But that's okay
because neutron stars are pretty reflective considering so Inari
can have her big sky mirror thing.
L176[15:50:25] <Izaya> ... The issue being
it'll sterilize the planet orbiting it? :D
L177[15:51:05] <dequbed> Problem is sadly
that this gravity thing is hard at work taking your structure and
smashing it. And then it takes your electrons and smashes it into
the protons making everything neutron soup.
L178[15:51:15] <dequbed> And yes also
releasing a *BUNCH* of energy in the process.
L179[15:51:33] <dequbed> How does the far
side of pluto sound as a living space kinda energies.
L180[15:52:25] <dequbed> Neutron soup, aka
"drop a cubic meter of this stuff into Jupiter and we have a
backup sun"
L181[15:53:44] <dequbed> So realistically
you need to get the density of your sky mirror down a bit more, 10
or so orders of magnitude are a ballpark number to aim for. Then it
could work. Big honeycombs.
L182[15:54:42] <dequbed> I'd tell you to
just coat a large helium baloon with silver but problem is a helium
balloon of that size starts fusioning iron and messing *everything
up* :I
L183[15:55:09] <Izaya> Damn you, laws of
physics!
L184[15:55:12] *
Izaya shakes fist at sun
L185[15:55:31] *
dequbed shakes fist at weak force for being weak sauce
L186[15:55:41] *
dequbed shakes fist at gravity for making everything much more
complicated
L187[15:56:03] *
dequbed shakes fist at strong force for being the reason for human
suffering because nothing would exist w/o it.
L188[15:56:09] <Izaya> ever read Tau Zero,
dequbed?
L189[15:56:27] *
dequbed waves at electromagnetic force for being a roundabout good
fella
L190[15:56:29] <dequbed> Izaya: nope
L191[15:57:42] <Izaya> Good book. Would
recommend.
L192[15:58:01] <Izaya> Plays with what
happens when you abuse relativity a little too hard.
L193[15:58:03] <dequbed> It sounds like
the kind of book you would recommend, yeah
L194[15:59:05] <dequbed> Lol bussard
ramjet.
L195[16:01:56] <Izaya> It was written
before anyone did the maths on the limitations of em
L196[16:02:13] <dequbed> Lot's of stuff
was written that way. Still fun to read.
L197[16:02:26] <Izaya> aye
L198[16:03:13] <dequbed> I read a novel
once that did fun stuff like kugelblitz reactors fed from uranus,
not jupiter this time because they made jupiter a backup sun and
move people to titan because that sounded fun or smth
L199[16:06:06] <Inari> The sun gives you
all the energy you'd ever need
L200[16:06:13] <Inari> And materials
L201[16:06:21] <Inari> Low percentage of
them, but it's huge, so
L202[16:06:35] <dequbed> Yeah but earth
gets cold when you build a dyson sphere.
L203[16:06:46] <Inari> And if you're fancy
you can turn it into a solar system drive
L204[16:07:28] <Inari> By the time you
built a dyson swarm big enouhg to shield that much sun, you
probably don't need earth anymore :p
L205[16:07:44] <dequbed> More likely you
have ground up earth for materials.
L206[16:07:59] <Izaya> Now that's a plan I
can get behind.
L207[16:08:15] <dequbed> Then again you
could just use Jupiter, that one has enough mass by itself. But
then you have no backup sun.
L208[16:08:42] <Inari> Last I heard the
plan was to startwith grinding up Mercury
L209[16:08:46] <Inari> Since it's pretty
close and all
L210[16:08:50] <dequbed> Also just imagine
greenpeace starting a conservation efford for Jupiter. *That* would
be fun.
L211[16:09:06] <dequbed> Yeah mercury is
definitely a good start but way too small.
L212[16:09:23] <dequbed> Enough for a
dyson swarm, but not quite enough for a sphere unless it's *really*
thin.
L214[16:09:41] <Inari> I mean
L215[16:09:45] <Inari> Spheres don't work
anyway
L216[16:09:45] <dequbed> And with a dyson
swarm you can just make it not block the line from earth
L217[16:10:01] <dequbed> No, they totally
can.
L218[16:10:32] <dequbed> But swarms are
definitely *easier*.
L219[16:11:57] <Inari> But all of that is
theoretically already achievable. The real challenge is
faster-than-light stuff anyway
L220[16:12:34] <dequbed> Or alternatively,
immortality.
L221[16:12:55] <Inari> I mean, thats nice
and all, but doesn't solve basic issues
L222[16:12:59] <dequbed> That's enough if
you don't want to visit galaxies other than our direct
neighborhood
L223[16:13:09] <Inari> You can't have a
galactic society if communication times are like 200 years
L224[16:13:23] <dequbed> i.e. Andromeda,
Mangelan cluster, Milky Way.
L225[16:13:32] <dequbed> You can
L226[16:13:47] <Inari> I mean
L227[16:14:03] <dequbed> We had
civilizations before the advent of fast communication on earth. It
just looks very different than our current image of civilization
does.
L228[16:14:04] <Inari> About as much as
native americans had a soceity with europeans before meeting
L229[16:14:11] <Inari> Sure
L230[16:14:24] <Inari> But couple months
to communicate vs 200 years is kind of a difference
L231[16:15:16] <dequbed> The Chinese,
Romans and Japanese all were "unified" civilzations
despite lacking communication. It'll be like that, just way worse.
Also you start a war that your grandchildren have to fight :P
(unless immortality and all that but what are 10 years round trip
when you live millions?)
L232[16:15:55] <Izaya> Inari: you can't
have "society" but you can have culture
L233[16:16:37] <dequbed> "Latest wear
on earth!", 1950's style.
L234[16:17:48] <Izaya> Further recommended
reading: A Deepness in the Sky, by Vernor Vinge
L235[16:18:05] <Izaya> talks at length
about the futility of an interstellar civilization at light
speed
L236[16:20:18] <Izaya> notably written
after they realised you can't really do better than 0.3c with a
ramjet design
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<ThePiGuy24> %tonk
L241[16:38:12] <MichiBot> Jiminy Cricket!
ThePiGuy24! You beat Ocawesome101's previous record of 8 hours,
21 minutes and 15 seconds (By 1 minute and 29 seconds)! I hope
you're happy!
L242[16:38:13] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new
record is 8 hours, 22 minutes and 44 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also
gained 0.00018 (0.00002 x 9) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
Position #7. Need 0.08917 more points to pass
DaComputerNerd!
L243[17:07:25]
<Ocawesome101> nice
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<Forecaster> faxes are great you say
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L257[19:01:49] <Inari> No
L258[19:01:52] <Inari> Foxes are great I
soy
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L260[19:02:12] <gamax92> can confirm
L261[19:09:03]
<Brisingr
Aerowing> I met an extremely tame fox once. Probably the
cuddliest animal I've ever met. Liked pretty much everyone.
L262[19:09:12]
<Brisingr
Aerowing> Was from a local zoo.
L263[19:09:23]
<Brisingr
Aerowing> Long time ago.
L264[19:46:40] <AmandaC> not as great as
cats, though
L265[19:47:54]
<20kdc>
foxes are the cutest
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<Zef> I'd
say foxes are better than cats
L267[19:58:16] <Inari> Cause they
are
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<Forecaster> %sip
L271[20:10:54] <MichiBot> You drink a
basic chocolate potion (New!). Forecaster feels slightly
faster.
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<Ocawesome101> cats are best
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<Ocawesome101> fight me
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<ThePiGuy24> ^
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<Ocawesome101> %discord
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<AntiairPalme> Heya all o/, is there a way
to download .nbs files from a website to the HDD of a OpenComputer
- Computer on a Server, without having access to the Server
files?
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<Forecaster> internet card + wget
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<AntiairPalme> I tried it with wget but
the file seems like to be the website itself? Can you give me a
example website to use it?
L283[20:29:46]
<Ocawesome101> what file are you trying to
download?
L284[20:29:51]
<AntiairPalme> .nbs
L285[20:30:08]
<Ocawesome101> no, from where?
L286[20:30:14]
<Ocawesome101> what link are you
using?
L287[20:30:31]
<AntiairPalme> Direct link from
dropbox/google drive
L288[20:31:13]
<Forecaster> for dropbox there's a dl
parameter at the end that needs to be 1
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<Forecaster> otherwise it will point to
the webpage
L290[20:32:24]
<Forecaster> it says dl=0 at the end or
something like that
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<AntiairPalme> Like that?
L293[20:34:07]
<Forecaster> yes
L295[20:34:12]
<AntiairPalme> Like that? [Edited]
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<AntiairPalme> Gonna try it later, thx for
the help❤️
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