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L9[00:09:39] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I’ve just made a very small OS that should work from an EEPROM
L10[00:12:10] <Sagh​etti> cool
L11[00:12:31] <Sagh​etti> also how do I download open kernel?
L12[00:13:05] <Sagh​etti> @Open Kernel Dev Guy
L13[00:31:29] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> @Saghetti Look in the readme at https://github.com/Ocawesome101/open-kernel
L14[00:31:37] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> There’s a pastebin installer
L15[00:32:34] <Corded> * <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> is shocked that someone is actually considering using Open Kernel
L16[00:32:56] <Sagh​etti> lol
L17[00:33:17] <Sagh​etti> yeah im just checking out other people's operating systems
L18[00:33:25] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> You'll need an Internet card
L19[00:33:47] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> And a booted OpenOS or Open Kernel
L20[00:34:24] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> With the `pastebin` program
L21[00:36:00] <Sagh​etti> future computercraft support??
L22[00:36:04] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Yep
L23[00:36:11] <Sagh​etti> future computercraft support?! [Edited]
L24[00:36:16] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> You already can boot Open Kernel using a couple hax I threw together
L25[00:36:22] <Sagh​etti> wow
L26[00:36:41] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> It's not pretty (no color support, not at all fully tested) but it seems to work
L27[00:36:46] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Also @Ariri I'm having difficulties connecting to your server
L28[00:37:10] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> My ping times seem fine but it keeps disconnecting me
L29[00:37:43] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Saghetti: Oh, and the emulated component system I put together is awful
L30[00:38:10] <Sagh​etti> rip
L31[00:38:41] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> (for the CC version anyway)
L32[00:38:44] <Sagh​etti> also why are all the oses structured like unix/linux?
L33[00:39:04] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Because it's the easiest given how OC filepaths work, and everyone's used to it
L34[00:39:29] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> In my case, I'm a Linux user, so it's what I'm used to
L35[00:39:50] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> That's my impression anyway
L36[00:40:03] <DaCompu​terNerd> And the presence of several linuxy commands, like mv, cp, rm, ls
L37[00:40:06] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> There's one that's structured like macOS
L38[00:40:11] <Sagh​etti> im not doing things like device files for craftbox
L39[00:40:20] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Neither am I, heh
L40[00:40:28] <Sagh​etti> who needs device files when you can just add more system calls?
L41[00:40:41] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Or APIs! Or.... however you do it!
L42[00:40:54] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I just leave the raw `component` API exposed, heh
L43[00:41:55] <Sagh​etti> my security brain is hurting right now
L44[00:42:06] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> hehehe eah
L45[00:42:09] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> yeah*
L46[00:42:15] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> It's definitely not secure
L47[00:42:25] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> but, uh, have you looked at OpenOS? 😛
L48[00:42:31] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L49[00:42:42] <Sagh​etti> all apis exposed
L50[00:42:48] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> yep
L51[00:42:59] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> None of this "system call" stuff
L52[00:43:10] <ThePi​Guy24> ive been working on a think to make openos feel something like msdos
L53[00:43:16] <ThePi​Guy24> *thing
L54[00:43:19] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> nice
L55[00:43:28] <ThePi​Guy24> it still functions the same, but feels different
L56[00:43:30] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Why not just write your own implementation of MS-DOS?
L57[00:43:37] <Sagh​etti> I've been also making a ms-dos like os
L58[00:43:45] <ThePi​Guy24> because i honestly have no clue how to make an os
L59[00:43:50] <Sagh​etti> and copying all the system calls
L60[00:43:51] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I've considered it a few times
L61[00:44:29] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> @ThePiGuy24 Look at https://raw.github.com/ocawesome101/oc-litekernel/master/init.lua
L62[00:44:30] <Sagh​etti> so you have files like command.lua, io.lua
L63[00:44:36] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> It's a tiny little thing I wrote
L64[00:44:42] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> That functions from an EEPROM
L65[00:44:48] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> when minified that is
L66[00:51:09] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ph
L67[00:51:14] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> *oh
L68[00:51:24] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> someone else has something called litekernel
L69[00:51:59] <Sagh​etti> what if someone made a FAT32 driver
L70[00:52:05] <Sagh​etti> for unmanaged drives
L71[00:52:22] <Amanda> gamax92 did that, I believe
L72[00:52:38] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i'm making a FS
L73[00:53:11] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i'll probably implement it in fennec
L74[00:53:31] <gamax92> I did fat12 and fat16
L75[00:53:52] <ThePi​Guy24> i kinda wanted to try NTFS
L76[00:54:09] <ThePi​Guy24> but i cba
L77[00:55:52] <Sagh​etti> also i remember seeing a post on Reddit where somebody booted Linux on an opencomputers machine
L78[00:57:01] <Sagh​etti> oh found it
L79[00:57:11] <Sagh​etti> https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/4cu1sc/got_linux_working_on_opencomputers/
L80[00:57:19] <Sagh​etti> apparently it's legit according to the author
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L82[00:58:43] <Sagh​etti> ntfs is annoying to work with
L83[00:58:57] <Sagh​etti> because Microsoft never posted the official specifications
L84[00:59:07] <Sagh​etti> so it's all just reverse engineering
L85[00:59:25] <gamax92> ah I remember that old mips architecture for oc
L86[01:00:08] <ThePi​Guy24> ok time to try and make a terrible os
L87[01:01:13] <ThePi​Guy24> not delibrately terrible
L88[01:06:50] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> That's ok, my first os didn't even have proper screen output
L89[01:20:21] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> anyways, my litekernel is jank and not actively maintained, except for the parts i used in zorya
L90[01:31:06] <simon816> %tonk
L91[01:31:06] <MichiBot> Fudge! simon816! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 4 hours, 55 minutes and 26 seconds (By 2 hours, 6 minutes and 57 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L92[01:31:07] <MichiBot> simon816's new record is 7 hours, 2 minutes and 24 seconds! simon816 also gained 0.0106 (0.00212 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L93[01:32:28] <Sagh​etti> %tonk
L94[01:32:49] <Sagh​etti> %tonkout
L95[01:32:49] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Saghetti, you were not able to beat simon816's record of 7 hours, 2 minutes and 24 seconds this time. 1 minute and 42 seconds were wasted! Missed by 7 hours and 42 seconds!
L96[01:32:51] <simon816> got to wait another 7 hours yet :p
L97[01:33:14] <Sagh​etti> i don't get how tonking works
L98[01:33:24] <simon816> see https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L99[01:33:50] <Sagh​etti> rules are confusing
L100[01:34:41] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Basically:
L101[01:34:51] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Someone tonks and it sets a record
L102[01:35:31] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> If someone else tonks, it checks whether the time between tonks was more or less than the record
L103[01:35:48] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> If it was more, the person who tonked gets the tonk and sets a new record
L104[01:36:01] <Sagh​etti> oh
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L106[02:12:47] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> So, uh
L107[02:13:12] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I'm trying to make a custom client/server pair using an Internet card and a Python script and TCP sockets
L108[02:13:32] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> The Python script is running on a real computer (address `tiny.xyz` for the purposes of this discussion)
L109[02:14:56] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> it is:
L110[02:14:56] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/avepulahoz
L111[02:15:42] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> The Lua script I have trying to communicate with this is:
L112[02:15:43] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/kefobuyimi
L113[02:16:13] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> It gets to `Testing connection` and writes to the socket but my server doesn't register anything
L114[02:20:19] <ThePi​Guy24> have you opened the port?
L115[02:21:08] <ThePi​Guy24> and im not entirely sure, but you may need to set HOST to "0.0.0.0"
L116[02:26:10] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I'm trying something different now and it seems to work better
L117[02:27:34] <Sagh​etti> did you get it working?
L118[02:28:44] <Elfi> oh, Linux on a MIPS kernel. Nice
L119[02:28:57] <Elfi> er, Linux kernel on MIPS.
L120[02:29:00] <Elfi> I'm tired. z.z
L121[02:29:12] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Saghetti: Not yet, I'm still puzzling things out on the Python end
L122[02:29:28] <Sagh​etti> need help?
L123[02:29:34] <Sagh​etti> i'm best at python
L124[02:29:55] <Sagh​etti> i'm much better at python than other languages [Edited]
L125[02:32:24] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Sure
L126[02:32:32] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Should I DM you with the code I've got?
L127[02:32:39] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L128[02:32:47] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> kk
L129[02:36:44] <Elfi> Come to think of it, wasn't there a Linux PS2 port?
L130[02:37:18] <Elfi> I wonder if it used the same code, even if an older version
L131[02:40:08] <ThePi​Guy24> IBM Personal System or Sony PlayStation?
L132[02:40:20] <Izaya> both :D
L133[02:40:30] <Izaya> Elfi: Soni shipped a Linux kit for the PS2
L134[02:40:35] <Izaya> Sony
L135[02:40:39] <Izaya> christ it's too early in the morning
L136[02:40:45] * Izaya shudders
L137[02:40:48] <ThePi​Guy24> wasnt that the PS3?
L138[02:40:50] <Elfi> I was gonna say
L139[02:41:07] <Elfi> There was Yellow Dog Linux for the PS3 as wel
L140[02:41:08] <Izaya> nah they were trying to license the PS2 as a personal computer rather than a games console
L141[02:41:23] <Elfi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_for_PlayStation_2 But this was totally a thing
L142[02:41:26] <Izaya> because the import taxes were lower on personal computers than games consoles
L143[02:41:28] <Izaya> yeah man
L144[02:41:35] <Izaya> shipped with Window Maker too
L145[02:41:37] <ThePi​Guy24> well i have made a functional "OS"
L146[02:41:38] <Izaya> :D
L147[02:41:45] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Sweeeet
L148[02:41:53] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> congratulations
L149[02:41:55] <ThePi​Guy24> all it does is display the gpu's adress
L150[02:42:00] <Izaya> semi-related:
L151[02:42:01] <ThePi​Guy24> and not crash
L152[02:42:01] <Izaya> > Also on the MIT archive is TRIX, the MIT Unix work alike that almost became the GNU Kernel, until Mach stole their hearts, and basically lead them on a wild goosechase.
L153[02:42:02] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> That's still something
L154[02:42:23] <DaCompu​terNerd> interesting
L155[02:42:59] <Izaya> there's your alternate universe story prompt
L156[02:45:58] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> DID SOMEONE SAY PS2 LINUX
L157[02:46:07] <Sagh​etti> gba linux
L158[02:46:16] <Sagh​etti> master race
L159[02:46:34] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i ran linux on my ps2
L160[02:46:45] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> it was kinda comfy until i wanted to browse the web
L161[02:47:32] <Izaya> yeah well modern computers struggle with web browsers it's no surprise that a MIPS box from like 2002 had a hard time
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L163[02:49:26] <AdorableCatgirl> oh yeah, IRC
L164[02:49:33] <AdorableCatgirl> i have to update my arch install
L165[02:49:42] <Izaya> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/mit/trix/TRIX_A_Communications_Oriented_OS_Aug83.pdf
L166[02:49:44] <AdorableCatgirl> so i can install kdenlive for a shitty joke
L167[02:49:52] <Izaya> man I wish my PS2 had a working disc drive
L168[02:49:56] <Izaya> I wanna install linux on it
L169[02:50:00] <Izaya> but PS2s are $$$ now
L170[02:50:34] <AdorableCatgirl> >working disc drive
L171[02:50:34] <AdorableCatgirl> imagine not using a free linux kit
L172[02:50:34] <AdorableCatgirl> like black rhino
L173[02:50:58] <Izaya> still gotta boot it somehow
L174[02:52:02] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: PsychOS3: in which I implement all functionality over RPC
L175[02:52:04] <AdorableCatgirl> ELF loader
L176[02:52:12] <AdorableCatgirl> i use it on my PS2
L177[02:52:34] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: Distributed OS when
L178[02:52:42] <Izaya> next time I have motivation
L179[02:52:43] <AdorableCatgirl> one os over an entire network
L180[02:52:50] <AdorableCatgirl> and that's a fucking mood right there
L181[02:53:01] <AdorableCatgirl> there's a reason i've not gotten any work done on Tsukinet or Fennec
L182[02:53:09] <AdorableCatgirl> ...Or Zorya
L183[02:53:17] <Izaya> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/mit/trix/TRIX_A_Communications_Oriented_OS_Aug83.pdf
L184[02:53:26] <Izaya> this paper makes me want to break out LaTeX and re-typeset it
L185[02:53:50] <Sagh​etti> CraftBox: everything is implemented over rpc (coming soon™️)
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L188[02:54:25] <Izaya> Saghetti: https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel/tree/master/RPC/OpenOS may interest you
L189[02:54:57] <Izaya> oh that reminds me
L190[02:55:03] <Izaya> what license is CraftBox gonna be under
L191[02:55:09] <Sagh​etti> probably mit
L192[02:55:39] <Izaya> fair
L193[02:55:58] * Izaya saw the © signs in some of the source files and was concerned
L194[02:56:01] <Izaya> but it's all g now
L195[02:56:33] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I wrote my own software license cause I didn't want to bother reading through any of the provided ones
L196[02:56:47] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Come to think of it that license was probably a bit harsh
L197[02:56:53] <AdorableCatgirl> >own license
L198[02:56:55] <AdorableCatgirl> bad idea
L199[02:56:57] <AdorableCatgirl> ngl
L200[02:57:03] <Izaya> legal is like crypto, you probably shouldn't do it yourself
L201[02:57:07] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> yeah
L202[02:57:29] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> If you poke around in my older CC project repos you'll probably find it
L203[02:57:31] <AdorableCatgirl> i use Apache 2.0 because I can actually understand what's going on because it wasn't formatted by a monkey with a typewriter
L204[02:57:36] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Any of mine that has a LICENSE.ms
L205[02:57:43] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> .md*
L206[02:58:07] <Amanda> I just use mit for my public shit
L207[02:58:09] * Izaya likes MPLv2
L208[02:58:30] <Izaya> maybe I should go full GPLv3 for PsychOS
L209[02:58:38] <Izaya> as operating system software should be Free
L210[02:58:49] <Amanda> Might not be enforceable
L211[02:59:20] <Izaya> would one bother for software for OC?
L212[02:59:23] <Amanda> An ex claimed that gpl wasn't enforceable for mc mods since mc itself is propitary
L213[02:59:43] <Izaya> hm
L214[03:00:01] <Izaya> interesting, but not strictly the same
L215[03:00:11] <Amanda> She was also batshit crazy and dumped me for criticizing the company she worked for, so take that with some salt
L216[03:00:23] <Izaya> as OC software doesn't actually rely on Minecraft
L217[03:00:27] <Izaya> nor does it modify Minecraft
L218[03:00:39] <Izaya> OC itself, sure, but OC just implements an environment for OC software to run inside
L219[03:00:52] <Izaya> but either way, GPL for OS software is more the principle of the thing
L220[03:00:57] <Amanda> OC's license might conflict
L221[03:01:40] <Amanda> But I chose MIT because that's what I was told was best for my ideals, and cba to look too much into that legal jungle
L222[03:03:25] <Sagh​etti> also i put the (C) because i just wanted to show that i wrote the file
L223[03:03:56] <Sagh​etti> in fact, the mit license itself even includes this line:
L224[03:04:23] <Sagh​etti> Copyright (c) <YEAR> <COPYRIGHT HOLDER>
L225[03:05:43] * Izaya nods
L226[03:05:54] <Izaya> but legally, stuff defaults to all rights reserved
L227[03:06:52] <Sagh​etti> yeah i'm updating it to say "This software is licensed under the MIT license"
L228[03:15:00] <Sagh​etti> ugh i am terrible at source control
L229[03:25:47] <Izaya> https://regularflolloping.com/posts/communication/
L230[03:27:42] <Sagh​etti> does an oc simulator for cc exist?
L231[03:27:56] <Izaya> not to my knowledge
L232[03:28:06] <Sagh​etti> ooh
L233[03:28:07] <Izaya> there was(?) a CC simulator for OC though
L234[03:28:15] <Sagh​etti> free real estate then
L235[03:28:26] <Izaya> does CC support Lua 5.2 yet
L236[03:28:31] <Izaya> or even better, 5.3
L237[03:28:34] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L238[03:28:34] <Izaya> (or soon, 5.4)
L239[03:28:41] <Sagh​etti> but not 5.3 i think
L240[03:29:49] <Izaya> OC-staging has 5.4 support and 5.4 adds some nice stuff
L241[03:30:19] <Izaya> hoping that stuff gets merged into mainline because I'd love to use some of the 5.4 features in Minitel
L242[03:30:49] <Sagh​etti> cc is kinda weird because it runs 5.2 with 5.1 features as well
L243[03:31:06] <Sagh​etti> which means you can have setfenv and _ENV in the same script
L244[03:31:18] <Sagh​etti> i confused some guys on stackoverflow with that
L245[03:31:40] <Izaya> yeah LuaJ is pretty wonky
L246[03:32:28] <Sagh​etti> agreed
L247[03:39:25] <CompanionCube> how do they interact
L248[03:43:30] <Sagh​etti> wdym
L249[03:44:05] <Sagh​etti> CompanionCube
L250[03:44:18] <CompanionCube> like, what happens when you mix them like that
L251[03:44:47] <Sagh​etti> last time i tried it hung
L252[03:46:09] <ThePi​Guy24> well my "OS" does something now
L253[03:46:40] <Sagh​etti> nice
L254[03:47:26] <Sagh​etti> what does it do?
L255[03:47:44] <ThePi​Guy24> https://pastebin.com/Qj9qAVg2
L256[03:47:51] <ThePi​Guy24> just prints uptime
L257[03:51:11] <Z​ef> I don't see anything unique in it, it just seems to use the gpu and computer componenets
L258[03:51:33] <Z​ef> What's your OS?
L259[03:51:57] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> He / she is still new to OS devving for OC
L260[03:55:35] <Z​ef> Ohh is it that that would run off an eeprom?
L261[03:56:15] <ThePi​Guy24> i am attempting to create an os
L262[03:56:20] <ThePi​Guy24> poorly
L263[03:59:09] <Sagh​etti> woah
L264[03:59:14] <Sagh​etti> tis-3d looks awesome
L265[04:01:20] <Z​ef> It's a shame it's limiting
L266[04:01:28] <Z​ef> and it's difficult to come up with ways to use it
L267[04:01:37] <Sagh​etti> just downloaded it
L268[04:02:06] <Z​ef> I'd be interested if you come up with anything to do with it
L269[04:02:45] <Z​ef> Also another mod that I feel just kinda fits with TIS-3D is redstone control because it adds control panels with redstone I/O
L270[04:02:52] <Z​ef> It just makes me think of big industrial machines
L271[04:11:02] <Izaya> RADV_PERFTEST=aco here we go
L272[04:14:22] <Sagh​etti> tis-3d is confusing
L273[04:14:57] <Z​ef> It's based of TIS-100
L274[04:15:19] <Z​ef> off*
L275[04:15:32] <Z​ef> http://www.zachtronics.com/images/TIS-100P%20Reference%20Manual.pdf
L276[04:16:21] <Izaya> ACO: Game runs better, but I can hear my GPU fan
L277[04:18:18] <The_St​argazer> ...what
L278[04:18:27] <The_St​argazer> the java 32-bit rpm is bigger than the 64-bit rpm
L279[04:18:34] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> huh
L280[04:18:41] <The_St​argazer> `Linux x64 RPM filesize: 66.95 MB `
L281[04:18:41] <The_St​argazer> `Linux RPM filesize: 67.86 MB `
L282[04:18:44] <Sagh​etti> :thonking:
L283[04:18:56] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Izaya what does Lua 5.4 add that you like?
L284[04:19:11] <Izaya> mostly the garbage collection handlers
L285[04:20:05] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> I would assume OC would disable those, like it disables the gc metatable field.
L286[04:20:10] <Izaya> being able to define a function to close a socket when it gets garbage-collected is a neat idea
L287[04:20:31] <Izaya> maybe so
L288[04:20:47] <Izaya> OC-staging doesn't but that's probably not the most representative thing ever
L289[04:20:55] <The_St​argazer> `Linux x64 filesize: 82.8 MB `
L290[04:20:56] <The_St​argazer> `Linux filesize: 83.60 MB `
L291[04:20:56] <The_St​argazer> why the fuck are the 64-bit files smaller than the 32-bit files
L292[04:21:17] <Izaya> perhaps it has support files to deal with running on a 64-bit system packaged with it
L293[04:21:22] <Izaya> perhaps it's just not optimised as hard
L294[04:21:35] <The_St​argazer> java isn't optimised at all
L295[04:21:37] <Izaya> try comparing the uncompressed sizes
L296[04:22:16] <The_St​argazer> "optimized java" is an oxymoron I'm pretty sure
L297[04:22:25] <Izaya> on the contrary
L298[04:22:30] <Izaya> Java is quite optimised
L299[04:22:33] <Izaya> the problem is Minecraft
L300[04:23:48] <The_St​argazer> ffs
L301[04:23:48] <The_St​argazer> all the examples for oxymorons online (in google images) show everyday word combinations that I'm like 90% sure aren't oxymorons
L302[04:24:02] <The_St​argazer> for example "big baby"
L303[04:24:02] <The_St​argazer> how the fuck is that an oxymoron
L304[04:24:02] <The_St​argazer> what if the baby is just above average size
L305[04:24:43] <The_St​argazer> also "seriously funny"
L306[04:24:43] <The_St​argazer> that can just mean that something was a good joke
L307[04:25:05] <The_St​argazer> google is disappoint
L308[04:25:16] <Izaya> serious and funny are often at odds
L309[04:25:20] <Izaya> or, usually
L310[04:25:26] <The_St​argazer> i guess it depends on the context
L311[04:27:03] <The_St​argazer> Izaya: so "an optimized game of Minecraft" would be an oxymoron?
L312[04:27:27] <Sagh​etti> wait how do i make a tis 100 execution module start running?
L313[04:27:40] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Hook it up to a case
L314[04:27:44] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Maybe vice versa
L315[04:29:04] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/tt6bsfo
L316[04:29:10] <Izaya> nah
L317[04:29:14] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Power the blue one
L318[04:29:15] <Sagh​etti> i don't think it's executing
L319[04:29:16] <Izaya> because Pocket Edition exists
L320[04:29:20] <Sagh​etti> oh
L321[04:29:26] <Izaya> and Pocket Edition is written by competent programmers
L322[04:29:36] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Just putting a lever on it will suffice
L323[04:29:43] <The_St​argazer> pocket edition is written in C iirc
L324[04:29:57] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Izaya: Bedrock edition wasn't started by some dude in his bedroom
L325[04:30:01] <Sagh​etti> it's alive!
L326[04:30:02] <Izaya> I'd guess C++ but I don't know
L327[04:30:08] <Sagh​etti> yeah pocket edition is written in c++
L328[04:30:13] <The_St​argazer> how was Minecraft started?
L329[04:30:18] <Izaya> Exactly, PE was written with a clear idea what it would be by competent people for a constrained system
L330[04:30:28] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Notch was working on it for a side project
L331[04:30:47] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> He had another game he wanted to focus more on, hence Minecraft's simple graphics
L332[04:30:56] <The_St​argazer> also: the AA drill mines end stone bricks way faster than end stone
L333[04:30:56] <The_St​argazer> so, of course, the big brain response is to convert the end stone to bricks with an iChisel first
L334[04:31:02] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> And Minecraft ended up becoming the main project, heh
L335[04:32:13] <Sagh​etti> yay
L336[04:32:22] <Sagh​etti> my terminal screams now
L337[04:32:24] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Yep
L338[04:32:26] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Oh neat
L339[04:32:27] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/sjxg7rd
L340[04:32:46] <Sagh​etti> screams infinitely*
L341[04:32:47] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I managed to write a program that did basic I/O to that
L342[04:32:51] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Two instructions
L343[04:33:14] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> MOV RIGHT, ACC
L344[04:33:17] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> MOV ACC, RIGHT
L345[04:33:54] <Sagh​etti> you could just do MOV RIGHT RIGHT
L346[04:34:34] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/unfmhob
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L348[04:35:12] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I thought about that too
L349[04:35:20] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> That's probably faster, isn't it?
L350[04:35:38] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L351[04:35:44] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> being only one instruction rather than 2
L352[04:36:18] <Sagh​etti> imo tis-3d is awesome, but a bit too limited
L353[04:36:43] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Working on an OpenComputers emulator, in ComputerCraft. http://tinyurl.com/v6hos4x
L354[04:36:49] <Sagh​etti> bruh
L355[04:36:49] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Yeah TIS-3D is great
L356[04:36:54] <Sagh​etti> i was just doing that lol
L357[04:36:58] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> hah
L358[04:37:00] <Sagh​etti> :(
L359[04:37:07] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> we can both do it and see whose is better, lol
L360[04:37:32] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> There are multiple OpenComputers emulators available
L361[04:38:16] <Sagh​etti> http://tinyurl.com/vlbncjp
L362[04:38:39] <Sagh​etti> msgs from like an hour ago
L363[04:38:53] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I may or may not have, uh, seen that
L364[04:39:02] <Sagh​etti> double :(
L365[04:39:22] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Go ahead and do it, yours will probably be better than mine
L366[04:39:35] <Sagh​etti> i'll do it later™️
L367[04:39:43] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Famous last words
L368[04:41:27] <Sagh​etti> and about tis-3d
L369[04:41:36] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> mhm?
L370[04:41:39] <Sagh​etti> why use it when you can get all those features and more with oc?
L371[04:41:49] <Sagh​etti> and at a lower cost
L372[04:41:58] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> If you like programming in assembly, lol
L373[04:42:00] <Sagh​etti> why use it when you can get all those features and much more with oc? [Edited]
L374[04:42:20] <Sagh​etti> count me in then
L375[04:42:59] <Sagh​etti> at least it's better than x86
L376[04:43:04] <Sagh​etti> at least it's better than x86 assembly lol [Edited]
L377[04:43:11] <Sagh​etti> at least it's better than x86 assembly [Edited]
L378[04:43:56] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> heck yeah
L379[04:44:03] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> as in you can actually understand it? lol
L380[04:45:02] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L381[04:45:10] <Sagh​etti> x86 is just a mess of legacy on top of legacy
L382[04:45:30] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Which is why we need ARM
L383[04:45:35] <Sagh​etti> with extra backwards compatibility insanity thrown in just for fun
L384[04:45:40] <Sagh​etti> arm is a breath of fresh air
L385[04:45:55] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> ARM is what I'm using Discord from right now
L386[04:46:04] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Manjaro AARCH64 on a Pinebook Pro
L387[04:46:21] <Sagh​etti> the one part that confuses me is the lack of a main architecture for arm
L388[04:46:32] <Sagh​etti> like memory lay out, device protocols, etc
L389[04:46:38] <Sagh​etti> like memory layout, device protocols, etc [Edited]
L390[04:46:39] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> yeah, well
L391[04:46:53] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I saw someone say that x86 was like that in the early days, actually
L392[04:46:59] <Sagh​etti> and also lack of widespread adoption
L393[04:47:11] <Sagh​etti> where back in the day is like 70s
L394[04:47:28] <Sagh​etti> because ibm "cleared" everything up
L395[04:47:30] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Yeah
L396[04:47:34] <Sagh​etti> because ibm "cleared" everything up after [Edited]
L397[04:47:36] <Sagh​etti> because ibm "cleared" everything up [Edited]
L398[04:58:06] <Z​ef> oh no
L399[04:58:12] <Z​ef> oc on cc
L400[05:00:36] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> yep
L401[05:23:34] <Sagh​etti> arm emulator on oc
L402[05:27:23] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I think someone was working on that, actually
L403[05:28:06] <Izaya> all architectures are like that
L404[05:28:34] <Izaya> modern x86 machines aren't "just" x86, they're IBM PC compatible
L405[05:28:43] <Izaya> (or at least, descendant of IBM PC compatible)
L406[05:30:42] <Sagh​etti> https://hackaday.com/2012/03/28/building-the-worst-linux-pc-ever/
L407[05:30:47] <Sagh​etti> this is a good article
L408[05:30:52] <Sagh​etti> https://dmitry.gr/?r=05.Projects&proj=07.%20Linux%20on%208bit
L409[05:31:12] <Sagh​etti> maybe this could be used to finally run true linux on opencomputers
L410[05:31:32] <Izaya> personally
L411[05:31:39] <Izaya> I'd like a 6809 emulator so we could run OS-9
L412[05:32:15] <Sagh​etti> what about a full blown 68k?
L413[05:32:59] <Izaya> neat enough, but all the 68k platforms had special hardware
L414[05:33:05] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> dAmn, two hours to a bash prompt
L415[05:33:08] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L416[05:33:14] <Sagh​etti> 6.8khz clock speed
L417[05:33:17] <Sagh​etti> (the pain)
L418[05:33:25] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Then again, at 6.8KHz that's pretty decent
L419[05:33:35] <Izaya> 6.8khz would be alright on a simpler system
L420[05:33:51] <Izaya> a 6.8khz PDP-8 would be vaguely usable
L421[05:34:03] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Well, yeah
L422[05:34:08] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Wait
L423[05:34:11] <Izaya> but linux is complicated
L424[05:34:14] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Wasn't the C64 even a MHz?
L425[05:34:23] <Izaya> the C64 was 2Mhz, IIRC
L426[05:34:27] <Izaya> twice as fast as the Apple ][
L427[05:34:27] <Sagh​etti> like 0.98 something megahertz
L428[05:34:48] <Izaya> oh
L429[05:34:51] <Izaya> sorry
L430[05:35:00] <Sagh​etti> @ 1.023 MHz (NTSC version)
L431[05:35:00] <Sagh​etti> @ 0.985 MHz (PAL version)
L432[05:35:03] <Izaya> 1.023 in NTSC regions, 0.985Mhz everywhere that mattered
L433[05:35:12] <Izaya> huh
L434[05:35:25] <Klea​dron> lol "everywhere that mattered"
L435[05:35:42] <Sagh​etti> agree
L436[05:35:51] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> yes
L437[05:35:54] <Izaya> aaah, it was the BBC Micro that had the 2Mhz 6502
L438[05:36:09] <Sagh​etti> 6502s are awesome
L439[05:36:15] <Izaya> they were using F A S T RAM so they could run a 2Mhz processor with a 2Mhz video chip
L440[05:36:18] <The_St​argazer> we need a 5A22 arch
L441[05:36:18] <The_St​argazer> OC-SNES when
L442[05:36:28] <Sagh​etti> 2mhz = ~8mhz intel 8086
L443[05:36:32] <Klea​dron> blame the places that mattered for using a slower electrical frequency
L444[05:36:43] <Izaya> the SNES was a 65C816
L445[05:36:55] <Izaya> which is an even neater processor
L446[05:37:07] <Sagh​etti> 65c802 master race
L447[05:37:13] <The_St​argazer> wikipedia says it uses a 5A22
L448[05:37:17] <Sagh​etti> very neat processor
L449[05:37:29] <The_St​argazer> `CPU Ricoh 5A22 @ 3.58 MHz`
L450[05:37:32] <Izaya> TMS9900 pls
L451[05:37:36] <Sagh​etti> yeah pretty sure the 5A22 was a custom version of the 65C816
L452[05:37:41] <Sagh​etti> because nintendo
L453[05:38:00] <Sagh​etti> http://www.computercraft.info/forums2/index.php?/topic/28470-6502-cpu-emulated-in-lua/
L454[05:38:02] <Sagh​etti> b r u h
L455[05:38:12] <Izaya> >for CC
L456[05:38:18] <Izaya> man it wouldn't even be using the bitwise operators
L457[05:38:21] <Izaya> impressive
L458[05:38:30] <The_St​argazer> `It was soo common, even the Terminator was programmed on it!`
L459[05:38:31] <The_St​argazer> w h a t
L460[05:38:35] <Sagh​etti> yes
L461[05:38:39] <The_St​argazer> the original terminator films never mention t hat
L462[05:38:47] <Izaya> look at the PoV views in the Terminator
L463[05:38:54] <Izaya> the code running down the side
L464[05:38:56] <Izaya> is 6502 asm
L465[05:38:59] <The_St​argazer> oh
L466[05:39:02] <The_St​argazer> i could never read that
L467[05:39:09] <The_St​argazer> my eyes are shit; i need glasses
L468[05:39:25] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> So get some?
L469[05:39:40] <The_St​argazer> I have a pair at home
L470[05:39:42] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I'm in the same boat, I've had glasses since I was a year old
L471[05:39:53] <The_St​argazer> I lost my first pair so my mother refuses to let me use the second pair; out of fear I'll lose them
L472[05:40:14] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I've got like 20/100 vision, everything is horrendously blurry without these glasses on
L473[05:40:16] <Sagh​etti> i don't wear glasses
L474[05:40:28] <Sagh​etti> 20/29 vision
L475[05:40:33] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> good for you
L476[05:40:33] <Sagh​etti> 20/20*
L477[05:41:03] <The_St​argazer> i struggle with long range vision
L478[05:41:25] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I'm actually really farsighted iirc
L479[05:45:26] <Sagh​etti> wait
L480[05:45:34] <Sagh​etti> opengl for opencomputers
L481[05:45:42] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> ?
L482[05:45:46] <The_St​argazer> ok
L483[05:45:53] <Sagh​etti> imagine tho
L484[05:45:57] <The_St​argazer> so don't put an AE2WT terminal into a ME system
L485[05:46:02] <The_St​argazer> it erases it from exist
L486[05:46:41] <Sagh​etti> huh?
L487[05:47:06] <Izaya> sounds like you need some
L488[05:47:09] <Izaya> AEn't
L489[05:47:21] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> One character is equivalent to one byte, right?
L490[05:47:33] <Izaya> yes, but also no
L491[05:47:43] <Izaya> a char as defined by C is an 8 byte unit
L492[05:47:44] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> In CC?
L493[05:47:58] <Izaya> but unicode characters can be up to 4? bytes long
L494[05:48:02] <Izaya> s/8 byte/8 bit/
L495[05:48:03] <MichiBot> <Izaya> a char as defined by C is an 8 bit unit
L496[05:48:03] <Sagh​etti> yeah
L497[05:48:19] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> ag
L498[05:48:21] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> ah*
L499[05:48:44] <Sagh​etti> s/
L500[05:48:50] <Sagh​etti> s/hello
L501[05:49:05] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Test
L502[05:49:07] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> test [Edited]
L503[05:49:12] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Oh
L504[05:49:16] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> That didn't work, heh
L505[05:49:26] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> \s/T/t
L506[05:49:30] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> s/T/t [Edited]
L507[05:49:37] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Neither did that....
L508[05:49:50] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> neither did that.... [Edited]
L509[05:49:51] <Izaya> friendly reminder that message editing is a lie
L510[05:50:01] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> DANG IT DISCORD STOP EDITING MY STUFF
L511[05:50:03] <Izaya> as is message deletion
L512[05:50:18] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I'm trying to do s/X/Y and Discord is just editing my messages
L513[05:50:23] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> It's annoying
L514[05:50:30] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Apologies, I will stop
L515[05:50:30] <Izaya> it's a misfeature
L516[05:50:40] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> tell me 'bout it
L517[05:50:50] <Izaya> just like the entirety of discord
L518[05:54:12] <Sagh​etti> irc propaganda?
L519[05:54:42] <Izaya> is it propaganda if it's true
L520[05:54:48] * Izaya taps forehead
L521[05:56:58] <Sagh​etti> good point
L522[05:58:22] <The_St​argazer> i love it when allocated RAM decides to keep hitting max so I have to restart Minecraft
L523[05:58:23] <The_St​argazer> fun times
L524[05:59:04] <Sagh​etti> dedicated wam
L525[05:59:49] <The_St​argazer> need to download more wam
L526[06:07:09] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> yes
L527[06:08:01] <Sagh​etti> https://downloadmoreram.com/
L528[06:09:38] <Sagh​etti> get the wam
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L542[07:44:48] <The_St​argazer> goodbye
L543[07:49:01] <gamax92> Izaya: opencomputers for bedrock when
L544[07:51:09] <Izaya> Never
L545[07:51:15] <Izaya> Pocket Edition can go suck an elephant
L546[07:51:36] <Klea​dron> there's apparently a version of CC for bedrock as an addon
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L548[08:03:55] <Forec​aster> @Open Kernel Dev Guy escape the s
L549[08:04:22] <Forec​aster> Or use backticks
L550[08:22:45] <The_St​argazer> java garbage collection is garbage
L551[08:25:27] <The_St​argazer> also: yay, first wither kill!
L552[08:30:14] <The_St​argazer> also also: holy shit, you can put nether stars on toast
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L554[08:46:27] <Lizzian> %tonk
L555[08:46:28] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Lizzian! You beat simon816's previous record of 7 hours, 2 minutes and 24 seconds (By 11 minutes and 14 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L556[08:46:29] <MichiBot> Lizzian's new record is 7 hours, 13 minutes and 39 seconds! Lizzian also gained 0.00152 (0.00019 x 8) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L557[08:51:03] <Kristo​pher38> For all the 6502 fans out there, there's a 6502 architecture for OC
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L560[09:12:04] <The_St​argazer> oh man I love it when MC freezecrashes
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L562[09:27:29] <Forec​aster> Dangit Lizzy
L563[09:29:36] <Lizzian> Nyahahahaha
L564[09:30:05] <The_St​argazer> >Java test failure
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L567[10:48:40] <Izaya> %p
L568[10:48:43] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Iz​aya 2.45s
L569[10:49:52] <Lizzian> %p
L570[10:49:54] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Liz​zian 0.63s
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L574[13:06:49] <Corded> * <Forec​aster> plays as sapient cat in dungeon crawl, finds scarf, can't wear scarf...
L575[13:06:50] <Forec​aster> >:
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L578[14:18:18] <The_St​argazer> love it when one of MC's threads decides to infinitely wait
L579[14:44:35] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> %p
L580[14:45:34] <Lizzian> that wont work for discord users
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L583[15:06:11] <CoxGammer33> mm
L584[15:06:31] <Totoro> that's right
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L586[15:08:57] <Totoro> it's quieter here than in #cc.ru, but the audience if definitely bigger =)
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L590[15:15:04] <Forec​aster> https://youtu.be/P_P6KDLqmIQ
L591[15:15:04] <MichiBot> 101 Love Letters for Windows: From 1995, With Love | length: 10m 26s | Likes: 295 Dislikes: 0 Views: 488 | by LGR | Published On 14/2/2020
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L597[16:15:48] <Blue_595> hey when was cutting wire removed from your mod?
L598[16:17:22] <Blue_595> ..this is weird, i have 2 tiers of wireless network card
L599[16:17:43] <Mimiru> AFAIK It wasn't. cutting wire is part of the hardcore recipe set, so make sure you have that enabled if you want it.
L600[16:17:50] <Mimiru> and yes, that's been a thing for a while
L601[16:18:47] <Blue_595> ok
L602[16:19:06] <Blue_595> im assuming tier 2 just has a longer range (judging by the textures)
L603[16:19:21] <Mimiru> Nope
L604[16:19:27] <Mimiru> t1 can't do wired, t2 can IIRC
L605[16:19:41] <Blue_595> oh so T1 is like wifi adapters irl
L606[16:19:50] <Forec​aster> t2 wireless has longer range
L607[16:19:57] <Forec​aster> 500 blocks instead of 16 or something
L608[16:19:58] <M​GR> And it can have more open ports
L609[16:20:04] <Blue_595> ok
L610[16:20:15] <Blue_595> how many open ports can a wired card have
L611[16:20:58] <Blue_595> um actually i have 2 ideas for new stuff in the mod
L612[16:21:06] <Kristo​pher38> 400 blocks instead of 16*
L613[16:21:20] <Kristo​pher38> And it's not really blocks but "range"
L614[16:21:34] <Blue_595> - 2 block server racks; place 2 on top of eachother to get 9 slots instead of 4, might make the UI really weird
L615[16:22:09] <Kristo​pher38> In practice it's only 400 or 16 blocks if there are no obstructions since blocks decrease range
L616[16:22:13] <Blue_595> - KVM switches (component bus mux) in the rack, 4 skinny buses (components for servers) and 1 big bus to a terminal server, might have a slot for a wireless network card for an integrated terminal server
L617[16:22:25] <Mimiru> wait, seriously? is that a multiplier or a hard 400 in the config?
L618[16:22:47] <Forec​aster> it's still accurate to say that the range is in blocks
L619[16:22:49] <Blue_595> KVM switch would have 4 light-up buttons, to select which bus to connect to the screen and keyboard
L620[16:23:02] <Kristo​pher38> Hard 400 afaik, I remember an option for that being there
L621[16:23:23] <Mimiru> OpenSecurity *had* KVMs.. IDK if I ever implemented them in anything newer than 1.7
L622[16:23:30] <Blue_595> oh
L623[16:23:58] <Blue_595> im assuming its short for Keyboard and Video Multiplexer ID
L624[16:24:02] <Blue_595> :D* not ID
L625[16:24:42] <Blue_595> when you say 1.7, would 1.7.10 work by any chance?
L626[16:25:16] <Lizzian> 1.7 generally referrs to any of the 1.7 versions
L627[16:25:28] <Blue_595> ok so then gtg install opensecurity
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L629[16:25:44] <Mimiru> IT..
L630[16:25:45] <Mimiru> oh
L631[16:25:50] <Mimiru> lol..
L632[16:26:02] <Mimiru> It doesn't work exactly how they described. but mkay
L633[16:29:14] <Forec​aster> it works exactly how I described!
L634[16:29:19] <Forec​aster> wait what are we talking about
L635[16:29:23] <Lizzian> %tonk
L636[16:29:25] <MichiBot> Voldemort! Lizzian! You beat your own previous record of 7 hours, 13 minutes and 39 seconds (By 29 minutes and 17 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L637[16:29:26] <MichiBot> Lizzian's new record is 7 hours, 42 minutes and 56 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00049 x 8 = 0.00392)
L638[16:29:33] <Forec​aster> nooo
L639[16:29:34] <Lizzian> wait i coulda tonked out
L640[16:29:35] <Lizzian> fak
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L642[16:31:27] <Blue_595> ok opensecurity is installed
L643[16:31:34] <Blue_595> i got a version with KVM switches
L644[16:31:40] <Blue_595> but theyre not rack mountable
L645[16:31:44] <Mimiru> As I was about to say when you left...
L646[16:31:46] <Mimiru> Yeah that
L647[16:31:51] <Blue_595> :(
L648[16:31:52] <Mimiru> they don't work *exactly* how you described lol
L649[16:31:59] <Blue_595> well i have the card writer
L650[16:32:09] <Blue_595> good for programming microcontrollers
L651[16:32:10] <Mimiru> I'm at work, so... messages will sometimes come with some delay
L652[16:32:35] <Mimiru> Yeah the card writer can write EEPROMs without yanking the one out of your computer. and if you enabled it in the config you can even write up to 8kb to them
L653[16:32:53] <Mimiru> can also do RFID and Mag cards which was the original use lol
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L656[16:34:11] <Blue_595> yeah
L657[16:34:31] <Blue_595> so then, for either oc or os, consider a rack-mount KVM
L658[16:37:15] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> gamaaaaax 😄
L659[16:39:26] <Blue_595> also a while ago i was told OpenSecurity had spoofing cards
L660[16:40:14] <M​GR> Computronics does
L661[16:40:21] <M​GR> I don't know about OS
L662[16:40:29] <Blue_595> oh
L663[16:40:33] <Blue_595> hmm
L664[16:40:39] <Blue_595> well, the more the merrier :)
L665[16:40:42] <Blue_595> gtg again
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L668[16:45:08] <Blue_595> back
L669[16:45:42] <M​GR> Welcome back
L670[16:46:06] <Blue_595> wow i cant believe i didnt get Computronics sooner!
L671[16:46:59] * Mimiru pays Blue_595 to get a real IRC client
L672[16:47:02] * Mimiru slips them $0.02
L673[16:47:33] <Blue_595> i just prefer to use a client running on a computer from your mod
L674[16:47:45] <Izaya> "I'll give you $X to go away" and "Just my two cents" in one action
L675[16:47:46] <Izaya> Impressive
L676[16:48:37] <Mimiru> Thanks Izaya :P
L677[16:48:47] <Blue_595> :D
L678[16:48:59] <Mimiru> But it was more of a I'll give you $X to actually stick around
L679[16:49:00] <Mimiru> :P
L680[16:49:15] <Blue_595> now i have a reason to use just 1 server in a rack
L681[16:49:26] <Blue_595> 4 inputs + 4 outputs + disk drive + server
L682[16:49:30] <Blue_595> thx computronics
L683[16:50:08] <Blue_595> idk why you need self-destruct though
L684[16:50:23] <Izaya> for when your espionage is discovered
L685[16:50:41] <Blue_595> and spoofing card makes network fraud as easy as 1-2-3!
L686[16:51:10] <Blue_595> i like how theres just a brick inside the spoofing card
L687[16:52:04] <Blue_595> seeing the self-destruct things blink makes me think theyre gonna blow up in the creative inventory
L688[16:52:32] <Izaya> as long as they're not beeping
L689[16:53:43] <Blue_595> Creative chat box : NSA in a box!
L690[16:54:20] <Izaya> An infuriatingly good way to connect your server to IRC.
L691[16:54:33] <Izaya> All the IRC mods suck, but you can roll your own with OC. >.>
L692[16:54:35] <Blue_595> huh?
L693[16:55:00] <M​GR> You can use the chat box hooked up to a computer as an IRC <-> MC Chat bridge
L694[16:55:21] <Blue_595> interacts with minecraft chat, and an internet card for IRC
L695[16:55:23] <The_St​argazer> so the complete deluxe bundle for Super Neptunia RPG is like $90 rn
L696[16:55:23] <The_St​argazer> and I got it for like... $20? at a steam sale
L697[16:55:24] <The_St​argazer> big stonks
L698[16:55:25] <Izaya> All the mods for connecting Minecraft chat to IRC are ... garbage, basically, but you can implement an IRC client hooked up to a chat box really easily with OC and Computronics
L699[16:55:49] <Blue_595> i need this just so i dont look at a computer to use IRC
L700[16:55:49] <The_St​argazer> actually; y'know what?
L701[16:55:50] <The_St​argazer> fuck it. i'mma go play nep.
L702[16:55:52] <A_D> or you could go to an asston of effort to do it with no mods at all!
L703[16:56:07] <Izaya> what if
L704[16:56:09] <Blue_595> which i thought of doing for some reason
L705[16:56:11] <Izaya> you parsed the log files
L706[16:56:15] <A_D> nono
L707[16:56:18] <A_D> I've seen someone do that
L708[16:56:20] <Izaya> and sent messages over rcon
L709[16:56:22] <A_D> it was poll based and gross
L710[16:56:36] <A_D> I just start and own the process myself and directly interact with stdin/out
L711[16:57:09] <A_D> liberal application of regex and you're good!
L712[16:57:29] <Izaya> see
L713[16:57:31] <Izaya> these words
L714[16:57:34] <Izaya> the ones you're using
L715[16:57:36] <Izaya> I hate them
L716[16:57:58] <A_D> https://git.ferricyanide.solutions/A_D/goGoGameBot/src/branch/master/pkg/format/transformer/minecraft/transformer.go maybe a dash of code based cleverness for some extra formatting translation
L717[16:58:06] <M​GR> I could come up with words you hate more Izaya 🙂
L718[16:58:21] <Blue_595> just to make sure
L719[16:58:28] <Izaya> I can think of 4 right now, but let's save that for another day, eh?
L720[16:58:36] <Blue_595> server destructur cant go off unless you send a command to it over component bus
L721[16:58:49] <M​GR> Blue, I believe that is correct
L722[16:58:52] <Blue_595> ok
L723[16:58:56] <M​GR> Izaya, whenever you want
L724[16:59:03] <Blue_595> does it destroy just the server or a whole bunch of stuff around it
L725[16:59:12] <Izaya> instead, check out an ENB working under Proton https://social.shadowkat.net/media/fc5d3b94760e0139a095fb152ea78f5bf5587e0cff646cef0d4bb87d42b76cbc.jpg
L726[16:59:15] <A_D> Izaya: and this way! it works with any other game you want!
L727[16:59:27] <Izaya> tfw got the game running better with a bunch of graphical mods than the base game
L728[16:59:33] <A_D> lol
L729[16:59:47] <M​GR> I don't know what ENB is
L730[16:59:54] <Blue_595> one way to find out
L731[16:59:58] <Blue_595> if i get disconnected then yes
L732[17:00:02] <Blue_595> if i say "no" then no
L733[17:00:13] <ThePi​Guy24> i just cant get fallout 4 to work on my thinkpad no matter what os i use
L734[17:00:25] <Izaya> X220 insufficiently stronk
L735[17:00:29] <A_D> lol
L736[17:00:37] <A_D> you can beat someone to death with it, just no fallout
L737[17:00:41] <Blue_595> why is my heart pounding rn
L738[17:00:45] <M​GR> Izaya, please expand ENB
L739[17:00:49] <ThePi​Guy24> yeah but ive seen worse and older systems run it
L740[17:00:54] <A_D> also fwiw Izaya it actually works very well and doesn't just do chat
L741[17:01:03] <Izaya> I don't know what the E and N stand for but B is for Boost
L742[17:01:10] <ThePi​Guy24> i guess it might be the lack of dedicated GPU
L743[17:01:12] <Izaya> it's a stability and graphics mod that hooks into various games
L744[17:01:22] <M​GR> Oh
L745[17:01:26] <Izaya> it's what's giving the colour correction and water reflections
L746[17:01:27] <M​GR> I thought it was the name of the game
L747[17:01:34] <Izaya> nah that's just Fallout 4
L748[17:01:39] <Blue_595> i have in lua 'component.server_destruct.start()'
L749[17:01:43] <Blue_595> ill press enter right now
L750[17:01:47] <A_D> bang
L751[17:01:57] <Blue_595> no
L752[17:01:58] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24: Don't worry, the X220 will be with you when the real world is Fallout
L753[17:02:04] <Blue_595> it just removes everything from the rack without any drops
L754[17:02:17] <Izaya> Perfect application of thermite.
L755[17:02:41] <Blue_595> time to test the card
L756[17:03:04] <A_D> Izaya: there's a defcon talk you may like
L757[17:03:09] <Izaya> A_D: I can't decide whether I'm more impressed or horrified
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L759[17:03:16] <Izaya> but I will say
L760[17:03:17] <A_D> Izaya: the code or the talk?
L761[17:03:19] <Izaya> >Go
L762[17:03:21] <Izaya> code
L763[17:03:28] <Izaya> the talk is about effectively destroying hard drives, right?
L764[17:03:30] <A_D> its 10kLoC of Go :D
L765[17:03:45] <ThePi​Guy24> thinkpad will be with me no matter what i do to it
L766[17:03:49] <A_D> its about safely destroying the disk and the rest of the machine without blowing up the building or people in the room
L767[17:04:05] <A_D> and this was originally python
L768[17:04:16] <A_D> but it had so many concurrency issues it was horrible
L769[17:04:25] <A_D> because this can run multiple games at once
L770[17:04:36] <A_D> doing cross chat between them and a chat platform of your choice
L771[17:04:45] <A_D> including colour and formatting transformation
L772[17:05:11] <Izaya> see
L773[17:05:18] <Izaya> if it were me I'd just get an IRC bridge for everything involved
L774[17:05:25] <Izaya> because there's an IRC bridge for everything
L775[17:05:33] <A_D> but why do that when you can do this!
L776[17:05:50] <A_D> my main objective was mod free but meh
L777[17:06:03] <Forec​aster> that reminds me, need to get an irc bridge for my microwave
L778[17:06:05] <A_D> I did end up writing optional supporting mods for both minecraft and factorio
L779[17:06:22] <Izaya> Forecaster: god, I need to write one for my coffee pot
L780[17:06:34] <A_D> why IRC when HTCPCP exists
L781[17:06:37] <Forec​aster> I don't own one of those
L782[17:07:13] <Izaya> because you live in a civilised country with electric kettles?
L783[17:07:25] <Izaya> A_D: because I much prefer IRC clients to web browsers
L784[17:07:27] <Forec​aster> because I hate coffee
L785[17:07:39] <A_D> Izaya: I'm sure I could write you an IRC based translation layer!
L786[17:07:58] * Izaya applies a "Cursed" sticker to A_D's forehead
L787[17:08:07] <A_D> :D
L788[17:08:19] <A_D> but!
L789[17:08:23] <A_D> I could do it in go!
L790[17:08:27] <A_D> and it'd be fast and concurrent!
L791[17:08:30] * Izaya applies another "Cursed" sticker to A_D's forehead
L792[17:08:52] <A_D> what about a IRC based cursed sticker applicator?
L793[17:09:06] <Izaya> I'm going to run out of stickers at this rate.
L794[17:09:06] <A_D> I could use tinygo to program the microcontroller!
L795[17:09:29] <A_D> also I feel like telling you the supporting minecraft mod is in scala wont help
L796[17:09:49] <Izaya> How much is it to buy a stamp?
L797[17:10:01] <Izaya> Because I feel like a stamp and ink will be cheaper than stickers in the long run.
L798[17:10:04] <A_D> depends on the complexity
L799[17:10:15] <A_D> simple mod! https://paste.ferricyanide.solutions/wicuwogali
L800[17:10:55] <Izaya> I hate that s" notation
L801[17:11:05] <Izaya> not as bad as python's 8 types of strings, but still
L802[17:11:15] <A_D> 8?
L803[17:11:19] <A_D> not any more
L804[17:11:20] <A_D> 3
L805[17:11:26] <A_D> normal, raw, and formatted
L806[17:11:40] <Izaya> what about utf-8
L807[17:11:48] <A_D> all strings in py3+ are unicode
L808[17:12:12] <A_D> if you need ascii bytes or what have you you use .encode()
L809[17:12:38] <Izaya> oh so sometimes it just makes me .encode to UTF-8 despite all the strings being UTF-8
L810[17:12:41] <Izaya> wonderful
L811[17:12:44] <A_D> it's better than ruby and perl's "if you use double quoted strings it makes your code slow"
L812[17:12:57] <A_D> the only time you need .encode() is to get the bytes of the string for networking etc
L813[17:13:06] <Izaya> how are all of these languages so cursed
L814[17:13:08] <Izaya> >.>
L815[17:13:11] <A_D> oh sorry 1 more type
L816[17:13:16] <A_D> b"", for bytes
L817[17:13:39] <A_D> fine Ill just write a java mod that lets me use go!
L818[17:13:44] <A_D> because go isn't cursed!
L819[17:13:58] <Izaya> "man why do you like lua so much" "because its bigest quirk is that arrays start at 1"
L820[17:14:08] <Izaya> >go isn't cursed
L821[17:14:11] <A_D> and everything is a table
L822[17:14:14] <ThePi​Guy24> i feel like making "pythonish" which is python implemented in lua, and by implemented i mean it literally just translates some of the names
L823[17:14:15] <Izaya> That one deserves a cursed stamp
L824[17:14:16] <A_D> and metatables are fucking evil magic
L825[17:14:23] <Izaya> metatables are great
L826[17:14:39] <A_D> I know someone who built an entire OOP system in and for lua using metatable magic
L827[17:14:41] <Izaya> the biggest issue with metatables is that when you use metatables as a hammer, everything looks like a nail
L828[17:14:45] <A_D> including inheritance
L829[17:14:52] <A_D> and go isn't cursed!
L830[17:14:57] <A_D> except for that whole error handling thing
L831[17:15:04] <Izaya> I'm pretty impressed with Go
L832[17:15:06] <A_D> which honestly doesn't come up as much as you'd think
L833[17:15:13] <Izaya> it managed to ignore literally all language development since 1970
L834[17:15:18] <A_D> lol
L835[17:15:21] <Izaya> and then sell it as a feature
L836[17:15:28] <A_D> but it has a GC!
L837[17:15:34] <A_D> 70s langs don't have GCs
L838[17:15:35] <Izaya> and no dynamic linking
L839[17:15:37] <Izaya> lmao
L840[17:15:41] <A_D> it does have dynamic linking?
L841[17:15:48] <A_D> both at runtime and at startup
L842[17:15:50] <Izaya> but it only makes static binaries, I thought?
L843[17:15:54] <A_D> nope
L844[17:15:59] <Izaya> is this a recent-ish change?
L845[17:16:00] <A_D> you can make dynamic binaries
L846[17:16:01] <A_D> no
L847[17:16:07] <A_D> its been a thing for a long time
L848[17:16:11] <Izaya> or is only making static binaries just a convention
L849[17:16:24] <Izaya> also,
L850[17:16:24] <A_D> the main thing is by default go binaries when it comes to go code are statically linked
L851[17:16:29] <ThePi​Guy24> go just seems like cursed c but worse
L852[17:16:32] <A_D> because they then run anywhere
L853[17:16:54] * Izaya has implemented filesystem access as a series of metatables
L854[17:16:54] <A_D> the only thing usually dynamically linked to go programs is libc, for networking
L855[17:17:19] <Izaya> I don't like statically linked programs
L856[17:17:32] <ThePi​Guy24> Izaya when are you gonna get MTRPC to work with internet cards :p
L857[17:17:33] <A_D> simple compiler switch to change it
L858[17:17:36] <Izaya> I can't replace libraries to change functionality
L859[17:17:49] <Izaya> ThePiGuy24: it already does
L860[17:17:51] <Izaya> use vtunnel
L861[17:17:51] <A_D> if it took a week to compile that would be an issue
L862[17:18:22] <A_D> ╙─╴% ldd out linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffdb93c9000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007fbf946b7000) libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007fbf944c6000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fbf94702000)
L863[17:18:22] <ThePi​Guy24> do exportcomponent and importcomponent work?
L864[17:18:27] <A_D> thats all my bot links to
L865[17:18:34] <Izaya> I mean, I rely on LD_PRELOAD to get a sane desktop environment presently so
L866[17:18:44] <A_D> why the fuck?
L867[17:18:53] <Izaya> TPG24: yeah you can export/importcomponent over vTunnel
L868[17:19:03] <Izaya> Because GTK3 is pants-on-head retarded
L869[17:19:14] <Izaya> so I have to LD_PRELOAD gtk3_nocsd.so in order to make programs behave
L870[17:19:25] <ThePi​Guy24> ok will try and get that running when citadel sorts the server out
L871[17:19:34] <A_D> why not just replace the gtk3 file directly?
L872[17:19:40] <A_D> but seriously, thats a mess
L873[17:19:47] <A_D> yes its good that you can do that, but still
L874[17:19:47] <Izaya> Because it isn't a direct replacement of the library
L875[17:20:00] <A_D> why not recompile the lib with what you need?
L876[17:20:24] <Izaya> Because it's cleaner to have a library that tricks another library than maintain patches
L877[17:20:34] <Izaya> Because I'm changing intended behavior
L878[17:20:38] <A_D> that is VERY debatable
L879[17:20:51] <Izaya> vTunnel is a virtual tunnel card you can run Minitel over it so why wouldn't MT-RPC work TPG24? :D
L880[17:20:54] <A_D> but anyway, if a go program touches gtk3 it wont be statically linked
L881[17:21:08] <A_D> cgo tends to be dynamically linked
L882[17:21:23] <ThePi​Guy24> eh
L883[17:21:33] <Izaya> all gtk3-nocsd does is make GTK3 think it's running outside of a window manager
L884[17:21:46] <Izaya> so it never requests to disable decorations
L885[17:21:57] <A_D> and why do you need that?
L886[17:22:09] <Izaya> Because CSDs are ass.
L887[17:22:31] <Izaya> And there's no native way to disable that misfeature.
L888[17:22:39] <A_D> most applications have one
L889[17:22:47] <A_D> and in general CSDs look better.
L890[17:22:56] <Izaya> Subjective, hard disagree.
L891[17:22:57] <A_D> eg my firefox doesn't have a GIANT bar on top of it
L892[17:22:58] <The_St​argazer> so.. placing down colourful lamps crashed me.
L893[17:23:02] <A_D> agreed its subjective
L894[17:23:06] <A_D> what was the crashlog?
L895[17:23:18] <The_St​argazer> hang on gimme a sec
L896[17:23:36] <The_St​argazer> this http://tinyurl.com/yx4n39fn
L897[17:23:49] <The_St​argazer> `java.util.ConcurrentModificationException`
L898[17:23:56] <Izaya> It really pisses me off when applications refuse to honour my settings.
L899[17:24:02] <A_D> sounds like someone modified something concurrently
L900[17:24:04] <Izaya> Which is basically the rationale behind most of GTK3
L901[17:24:05] <A_D> it repeatable?
L902[17:24:26] <Izaya> GNOME 3 Brand > user choice
L903[17:24:28] <The_St​argazer> the crash?
L904[17:24:38] <Izaya> anyway
L905[17:24:41] <Izaya> 0424
L906[17:24:41] <The_St​argazer> you want me to repeat the crash?
L907[17:24:43] <Izaya> I should sleep
L908[17:26:05] <A_D> always repeat crashes and then submit bug reports with steps to repeat (with no other mods present) and the stacktrace
L909[17:26:22] <A_D> night Izaya
L910[17:29:12] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> So, I've almost got my OC-emulator-for-CC to a partially working state, but, uh, when I exec the BIOS and try to boot OpenOS it errors with no bootable medium found: init:1: '=' expected near '<random unicode char>'
L911[17:30:24] <The_St​argazer> show me your init?
L912[17:30:32] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> The OpenOS one
L913[17:30:42] <The_St​argazer> copied straight from OOS?
L914[17:30:48] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> The emulator code is at https://github.com/ocawesome101/ocemu-cc
L915[17:31:05] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Yep. I just downloaded OpenOS onto my emulator's disk
L916[17:31:24] <The_St​argazer> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ufanuwawuy
L917[17:31:25] <The_St​argazer> this?
L918[17:31:29] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> yep
L919[17:31:35] <The_St​argazer> show me full error?
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L921[17:33:05] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> This http://tinyurl.com/rcnegrn
L922[17:33:24] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Yes, I am aware that there is a misplaced character in the logging xP
L923[17:34:33] <The_St​argazer> odd
L924[17:34:38] <The_St​argazer> there's no `-` anywhere I can see
L925[17:34:46] <The_St​argazer> not in line 1 anyway
L926[17:34:50] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Yes, very much so
L927[17:35:22] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> It errors with the `-` replaced with a different, random char, or sometimes `char(<number>)`, every tome
L928[17:35:26] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> time*
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L931[17:36:53] <The_St​argazer> what the heck is going on here?
L932[17:37:06] <The_St​argazer> this is the weirdest error I've seen
L933[17:37:18] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Tell me 'bout it lol
L934[17:37:20] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Same
L935[17:41:32] <The_St​argazer> unrelated: yay, tonumber() supports binary
L936[17:41:48] <The_St​argazer> now I need to write a hex -> binary converter..
L937[17:42:01] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> heh
L938[17:42:28] <Izaya> look into string.format
L939[17:42:44] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> me?
L940[17:42:53] <Izaya> no
L941[17:42:54] <Forec​aster> no you!
L942[17:42:56] <Forec​aster> wait
L943[17:43:02] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> O
L944[17:43:05] <Izaya> alternatively, use the bitshift operators
L945[17:43:07] <The_St​argazer> what does `string.format()` do?
L946[17:43:13] <Forec​aster> formats strings
L947[17:43:15] <The_St​argazer> ..bitshift sounds complicated
L948[17:49:08] <The_St​argazer> how can I concatenate a boolean
L949[17:49:17] <The_St​argazer> it doesn't like it when I just try to do it normally
L950[17:49:20] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> `tostring` it
L951[17:49:53] <The_St​argazer> ah
L952[17:49:54] <The_St​argazer> thanks
L953[17:55:01] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> no problemo
L954[18:10:53] <The_St​argazer> woo
L955[18:11:00] <The_St​argazer> got reactor field strength reporting working
L956[18:11:08] <The_St​argazer> reports every second or so
L957[18:11:21] <The_St​argazer> :D http://tinyurl.com/yxxqucx9
L958[18:11:25] <M​GR> 👍
L959[18:11:50] <The_St​argazer> next step is to implement energy saturation reporting; then do something with these values
L960[18:16:47] <The_St​argazer> yep, sat reporting works
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L962[18:16:52] <The_St​argazer> now to write up the controller
L963[18:21:33] <The_St​argazer> more screenshots http://tinyurl.com/tx433kj
L964[18:22:00] <The_St​argazer> it's in the format `name, reactorAddress, newSat, newSatPercentage, firstSat, firstSatPercentage`
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L969[18:34:04] <Forec​aster> %sip
L970[18:34:05] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy dalekanium potion (New!). As Forec​aster drinks the potion they become the target of a wad of llama spit! Forec​aster successfully evaded it!
L971[18:34:14] <Forec​aster> phew
L972[18:35:55] <Forec​aster> hm, maybe those should print the dice result and the DC...
L973[18:36:32] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> @The_Stargazer That crash comes from some mod modifying the unloaded entity list while those entities are being removed from the world. So the colorful lamp placement probably has nothing to do with it.
L974[18:36:45] <The_St​argazer> Oh
L975[18:36:46] <The_St​argazer> Thanks
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L978[18:53:27] <The_St​argazer> why does middle clicking an HDD in a creative case void it
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L981[19:19:16] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> So, apparently, the reason for my weird errors is that sometimes it opens `init` in binary mode, or something like that. Sometimes it loads the correct text, most of the time it spits out unicode characters that CC can't parse.
L982[19:20:14] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> The strange thing is, said characters are in between the characters of the file, so if I could detect them I could filter them out, but I can't do that as they're seemingly random
L983[19:21:14] <ThePi​Guy24> ah unicode, what a "wonderful" thing
L984[19:22:25] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> This is what it does http://tinyurl.com/sfwckw3
L985[19:23:03] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> And occasionally it'll print the correct thing, but with a character appended
L986[19:23:48] <CompanionCube> A_D: lol CSDs
L987[19:23:55] <ThePi​Guy24> what character encoding is the file saved as?
L988[19:24:08] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> I'm not sure
L989[19:24:27] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> UTF-8 I think
L990[19:24:44] <ThePi​Guy24> try saving as ascii just to see if that fixes it
L991[19:24:47] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> yep, utf8
L992[19:24:49] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> ok
L993[19:25:12] <ThePi​Guy24> i dont think it will, but it might as well be tried
L994[19:25:55] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> nope, didn't
L995[19:26:12] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> `file` returns `init.lua: ASCII text`
L996[19:26:26] <ThePi​Guy24> hmmm
L997[19:29:33] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> Interestingly, on CCEmuX it prints the right thing every single time
L998[19:29:52] <Open Kern​el Dev Guy> (I've been using CraftOS-PC)
L999[19:42:30] <Forecaster> %restart
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L1003[19:43:52] <Forec​aster> there, much better
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L1008[21:03:59] <A_D> Corded: CSDs <3
L1009[21:07:57] <Amanda> CSD?
L1010[21:18:17] <Forec​aster> Call Soft Duty, the new hit FPS game
L1011[21:43:19] <CompanionCube> A_D: pingfail :p
L1012[21:43:37] <A_D> well fine!
L1013[21:43:45] <A_D> don't talk to me then ;~;
L1014[21:44:03] * A_D goes back to regexing minecraft stdout
L1015[21:44:19] * CompanionCube pokes his floating/pin/ontop awesomewm buttons with a stick
L1016[21:44:42] <A_D> I shou;d try a tiling wm sometime
L1017[21:45:07] <CompanionCube> I got hooked on it via the tiling plugin in Enlightenment.
L1018[21:46:23] <A_D> how do they play with multi monitor?
L1019[21:48:11] <CompanionCube> wouldn't know, but i imagine it works well given virtual desktops
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L1023[22:49:01] <Inari> Neat
L1024[22:49:05] <Inari> Maybe we've found a way to cure cancer
L1025[22:50:00] <Forec​aster> which one?
L1026[22:50:07] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-V_MDVgISo
L1027[22:50:09] <MichiBot> Scientists May Have Found a Way to Treat All Cancers... By Accident | SciShow News | length: 7m 14s | Likes: 2,966 Dislikes: 20 Views: 23,424 | by SciShow | Published On 14/2/2020
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