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L1[00:29:39] <Amanda> %8ball laptop takes a nap?
L2[00:29:40] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Outlook not so good
L3[00:34:31] <ThePi​Guy24> Indeed, Outlook is not a great email service
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L5[01:38:23] <Ja​son> hey, how do you use the rc myscript with a variable?
L6[01:38:49] <Ja​son> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/opaxuxiyas
L7[01:38:56] <Ja​son> done understand how im ment to use it
L8[01:39:05] <Ja​son> dont understand how im ment to use it [Edited]
L9[01:44:21] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Say your script is called {mysvc.lua’. You would run ‘rc mysvc enable’.
L10[01:44:36] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Say your script is called ‘mysvc.lua’. You would run ‘rc mysvc enable’. [Edited]
L11[01:45:16] <Ja​son> how would i pass through the variable? in my script i have
L12[01:45:16] <Ja​son> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ofituxutap
L13[01:46:55] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Only custom methods can have parameters, AFAICT. So start and stop can’t.
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L15[02:34:50] <Izaya> rc can take params I'm like 40% sure
L16[02:34:58] <Izaya> like, start and stop
L17[02:56:50] <ThePi​Guy24> im now trying to do full motion video on oc
L18[03:00:58] <Izaya> Does this require extra hardware much like old video-CD adventures?
L19[03:02:20] <ThePi​Guy24> no
L20[03:02:32] <ThePi​Guy24> im not gonna load from disk xd
L21[03:02:42] <ThePi​Guy24> well kinda
L22[03:02:42] <Izaya> well that works
L23[03:02:46] <Izaya> was expecting it to require a tape drive
L24[03:02:50] <Izaya> man I wish devfs was more usable
L25[03:02:56] <ThePi​Guy24> its gonna load it into ram, then play it
L26[03:03:10] <ThePi​Guy24> as directly from disk would be dreadful
L27[03:03:10] <Izaya> maybe I'm just a brainlet but I made a devfs node for the tape drive but it took literal seconds to open the file handle
L28[03:03:19] <ThePi​Guy24> hmm
L29[03:04:19] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> https://dzone.com/articles/most-popular-programming-languages-in-2020
L30[03:04:32] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Look at the C# entry.
L31[03:04:59] <Izaya> > Along with this, developers also declared it as a structured programming language.
L32[03:05:10] <Izaya> They're not wrong about it being Microsoft Java though
L33[03:05:25] <Izaya> a shame it can't do cross-platform for shit
L34[03:05:52] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Did you notice the release date?
L35[03:06:30] <ThePi​Guy24> > Android programming language Java
L36[03:06:45] <Izaya> > 2000 years ago
L37[03:06:47] <Izaya> hold up
L38[03:06:48] <ThePi​Guy24> its not like it can be used for anything else
L39[03:06:58] <Izaya> I didn't know C# ran on abacuses
L40[03:07:26] <ThePi​Guy24> t'was the 31st day, 20 years after the birth of christ.
L41[03:08:12] <Izaya> Gonna spend $40 on an SSD to cache my HDDs and it's gonna be glorious
L42[03:08:36] <ThePi​Guy24> use floppy disks to cache your hdd
L43[03:08:42] <Izaya> an array of them
L44[03:08:44] <Izaya> thousands of them
L45[03:08:46] <ThePi​Guy24> it works good i swear
L46[03:08:50] <Izaya> cover the building in floppy drives
L47[03:09:48] <ThePi​Guy24> attempts to load a file
L48[03:09:48] <ThePi​Guy24> intensely loud seeking noises
L49[03:11:34] <ThePi​Guy24> ok now to write a convertor to convert png's into an arbitrary array of data
L50[03:12:42] <Izaya> also, obligatory, there are existing OC video codecs
L51[03:13:57] <ThePi​Guy24> imma pretend they dont exist
L52[03:20:54] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi088LK9LHnAhVKgnIEHU2UAogQyCkwAHoECAwQBQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3De4Ao-iNPPUc&usg=AOvVaw2nHGXNGkK2htWsRS6vhlvQ
L53[03:21:27] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Lets try that again...
L54[03:21:37] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4Ao-iNPPUc
L55[03:21:37] <MichiBot> Thunderstruck by Steve'n'Seagulls (LIVE) | length: 4m 6s | Likes: 815,486 Dislikes: 23,389 Views: 95,968,466 | by Steve Seagulls | Published On 1/8/2014
L56[03:21:49] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> They're a Finnish band.
L57[03:31:47] <CompanionCube> Izaya: modern C# is actually rather cross-platform, particularly if you include mono
L58[03:32:28] <Izaya> It's just that nobody writes cross-platform C# then :D
L59[03:32:38] <CompanionCube> also i'm tossing the author out the window fr
L60[03:32:43] <CompanionCube> for including 'HTML'
L61[03:33:40] <CompanionCube> Izaya: the openra people seem to be doing a good job of it
L62[03:34:15] <CompanionCube> also powershell's crossplatform C# is it not? that's microsoft themselves
L63[03:34:47] <payonel> @Ocawes​ome101 and Amanda - with regards to ocvm running too fast, perhaps it would be best to add a command line arg that would impose a delay
L64[03:35:01] <payonel> could have some options that try to be oc like, or just an arbitrary ms delay per loop
L65[03:35:24] <payonel> or some combination. could have it "minecraft sleep" every 10 calls or whatever our call limit is
L66[03:35:44] * CompanionCube is reminded of mono being ported to AIX/i in 2018
L67[03:38:03] <Izaya> CompanionCube: my point is, 99% of C# is written with only Windows considered
L68[03:38:26] <CompanionCube> point
L69[03:38:39] <Izaya> Whereas with Java, Windows support is often an afterthought
L70[03:39:30] <ThePi​Guy24> also, C# has some extra "features" added by microsoft
L71[03:40:06] <Izaya> yeah half of the standard library is Windows-exclusive
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L86[09:13:31] <Forec​aster> %sip
L87[09:13:32] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy coral potion (New!). Forec​aster feels slightly more agile.
L88[09:51:14] <Amanda> Oops
L89[09:51:26] <Amanda> It's almost 0500 and I've been reading all night
L90[09:51:43] <Amanda> Guess I'll put in a couple hours of sleep now
L91[10:38:57] <Lizzian> %tonk
L92[10:38:58] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Lizzian! You beat your own previous record of 17 hours, 7 minutes and 18 seconds (By 6 hours, 35 minutes and 40 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L93[10:38:59] <MichiBot> Lizzian's new record is 23 hours, 42 minutes and 58 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00659 x 18 = 0.11862)
L94[10:39:04] <Lizzian> Oh
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L99[11:52:14] <Ete​rnie> Damnit
L100[12:47:03] <DaCompu​terNerd> Why wouldn't you tonkout at that point
L101[12:51:48] <Lizzian> because more time = more points
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L107[13:22:53] <20​kdc> Fun fact: .NET Core, the "more cross-platform" .NET, is actually less cross-platform than Mono regarding GUI stuff. That should be an indicator to anyone even considering C# that this is a massive Microsoft deathtrap.
L108[13:24:21] <20​kdc> Theoretically, it is possible to make cross-platform C# applications. Practically, it doesn't happen.
L109[13:25:09] <20​kdc> A good example of a cross-platform C# application is Mesen. It has problems both on Windows and on non-Windows platforms if the Windows custom theming is set to dark colours.
L110[13:25:40] <20​kdc> It also relies on Mono, likely because of the aforementioned glaring issues.
L111[13:26:13] <20​kdc> (Specifically, read the .NET Core System.Windows.Forms & WPF contributor guides.)
L112[13:27:30] <20​kdc> "We also do not intend to accept contributions that provide cross-platform implementations for Windows Forms or WPF." - https://github.com/dotnet/winforms/blob/master/Documentation/contributing.md
L113[13:29:43] <20​kdc> Keep in mind, this is from what people are calling 'the future of .NET'. If that doesn't make .NET Core dangerous, nothing will.
L114[13:36:50] <DaCompu​terNerd> not exactly applicable to a mod written in java where you program in scala
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L127[16:50:46] <FileD​otZip> is there an opencomputers block, or adon mod block that can detect players?
L128[16:51:04] <FileD​otZip> it would basically listen for players
L129[16:51:16] <Forec​aster> OC has a motion detector
L130[16:51:26] <Forec​aster> Computronics has a radar
L131[16:51:49] <FileD​otZip> coool thanks!
L132[16:53:02] <M​GR> OpenSecurity has a radar thing too I think
L133[17:08:04] <Elfi> Honestly, I am not surprised that .NET Core was a hamfisted attempt at 3E after all
L134[17:08:14] <Elfi> They did it out of order though.
L135[17:17:27] <Inari> E3?
L136[17:19:28] <bauen1> embrace, extend, extinguish (probably)
L137[17:24:52] <Elfi> Yep
L138[17:25:20] <Inari> I prefer embrace, ensnare, excite
L139[17:25:24] <Elfi> lewd
L140[17:25:26] <Elfi> %inari
L141[17:25:26] <MichiBot> El​fi: http://i.imgur.com/XoYgHyi.gif
L142[17:25:30] <Inari> ;D
L143[17:25:36] <Inari> %pet Elfi
L144[17:25:36] <MichiBot> Inari is brushing Elfi with a badger. Elfi regains 1d4 => 4 hit points!
L145[17:25:44] <Elfi> honey badger don't care
L146[17:26:26] <Elfi> but yeah, .NET Core tried and failed because they got it out of order
L147[17:26:43] <Elfi> You don't extend then embrace, that provides no incentive
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L150[18:14:36] <Forec​aster> https://youtu.be/sepYP_knGWc
L151[18:14:37] <MichiBot> How do cats always land on their feet? - Life in the Air: Episode 1 Preview - BBC One | length: 1m 37s | Likes: 1,208 Dislikes: 12 Views: 401,569 | by BBC | Published On 31/3/2016
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L154[18:22:18] <DSeeLP | Du​nityGamesNET> Can I run after copying the files run a command with the install command
L155[18:26:36] <B​ob> why not
L156[18:28:31] <DSeeLP | Du​nityGamesNET> i want to enable a rc file in the .install file but the file doesn't exists because the .install file are executed before the files where copied
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L166[19:30:31] <Blue_595> hey its me again
L167[19:30:40] <Blue_595> i cant find a use for the component bus
L168[19:31:09] <Forec​aster> it's for servers
L169[19:31:12] <Blue_595> ive never been in a situation where i need one, but i guess cloud storage with RAIDs and 1 server would give you a reason
L170[19:31:40] <Blue_595> also why did someone sign in with the UUID of their internet card?
L171[19:31:46] <Blue_595> lookin at you /mnt/ba7
L172[19:32:13] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> ugh i keep forgetting i need to work on OSSM
L173[19:32:23] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> to add the RAID card
L174[19:32:40] <Blue_595> :) so then whats that project
L175[19:32:50] <Blue_595> is it a storage server for OpenPrograms or smth?
L176[19:32:55] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> wut
L177[19:33:02] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> OSSM is a mod
L178[19:33:05] <Blue_595> no doesnt make sense OpenPrograms exists on github
L179[19:33:14] <Blue_595> so what does OSSM add?
L180[19:33:23] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> currently only EEPROM cards
L181[19:33:28] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> for general purpose storage
L182[19:33:30] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> *PROM cards
L183[19:33:35] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> T1 has to be manually erased
L184[19:33:38] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> with an assembler
L185[19:33:40] <Blue_595> ok
L186[19:34:11] <Blue_595> ive noticed that you can remove an EEPROM once the computer is on with no consequences; did i not look closely enough at the documentation?
L187[19:34:30] <Blue_595> although now that i think about it bootloader only loads stuff at boot :D
L188[19:34:39] <Mimiru> That is the documented way to flash new EEPROMs
L189[19:34:48] <Blue_595> for microcontrollers or efficient BIOSs
L190[19:34:51] <Mimiru> the other way is using OpenSecurity and the card writer :P
L191[19:35:11] <Blue_595> but i thought that didnt work on EEPROMs
L192[19:35:16] <Blue_595> just on their own card
L193[19:35:26] <Forec​aster> the bios is only used during boot
L194[19:35:56] <Blue_595> ok
L195[19:36:38] <Blue_595> i was setting up this mod on a custom modpack and i was having problems with power, then i remembered you can turn it off in the config file *facepalm*
L196[19:37:53] <Blue_595> im gonna try to set up cloud storage in minecraft now
L197[19:39:38] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> i got an OS to load off of an EEPROM card
L198[19:39:40] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so i'm happy
L199[19:39:53] <Blue_595> im gonna try that now, i just need to figure out proxies
L200[19:42:02] <Blue_595> searching...
L201[19:43:03] <Blue_595> you still have component, just not getPrimary() or component.<type>
L202[19:43:09] <Blue_595> good to know
L203[19:43:19] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> wut
L204[19:43:35] <Blue_595> idk
L205[19:45:36] <Blue_595> proto #1: Just put "Hello, world!" on a screen from BIOS
L206[19:47:39] <Blue_595> im gonna move this client over to a tablet, one moment
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L208[19:48:51] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> anyways, i got PsychOS to boot from an EEPROM card
L209[19:48:53] <Adorabl​eCatgirl> so that was fun
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L212[19:59:48] <Blue_595> i forgot about coroutine.yield()
L213[20:00:31] <Forec​aster> I'm sure it feels the same way about you
L214[20:01:14] <Blue_595> :D
L215[20:01:27] <Blue_595> in other news i lost my EEPROM under the couch
L216[20:02:32] <Blue_595> now hopefully it wont error out
L217[20:02:48] <Blue_595> ...
L218[20:02:57] <Blue_595> much better than before
L219[20:03:27] <Blue_595> hey does OpenOS like it when i dump the Lua BIOS?
L220[20:04:11] <Forec​aster> hm?
L221[20:05:42] <Blue_595> why am i using proxy() to bind the screen? i can use component.invoke(gpuAddress, "bind", screenAddress)
L222[20:06:01] <Blue_595> realized that poking around in the dumped BIOS (the one i use to boot the thing normally)
L223[20:06:42] <Forec​aster> invoke is lower level than proxy
L224[20:07:10] <Blue_595> yay :)
L225[20:07:38] <Blue_595> and also i noticed that literally all the stock BIOS does is load from the first disk it finds an init.lua on
L226[20:07:53] <Blue_595> in documentation, but to see that from the actual code is more convincing to me
L227[20:08:32] <Forec​aster> kay
L228[20:09:25] <Blue_595> so with components, component_invoke(address, commandName, ...) is the same as component.proxy(address).commandName(...)?
L229[20:11:34] <Forec​aster> yes
L230[20:11:51] <DaCompu​terNerd> If you do want to not need to get addresses you can use component.list("componentName")() to get the primary one of that component
L231[20:12:01] <DaCompu​terNerd> If you do want to not need to get addresses you can use `component.list("componentName")()` to get the primary one of that component [Edited]
L232[20:12:20] <Forec​aster> or just `component.componentName`
L233[20:12:28] <DaCompu​terNerd> Not outside openos
L234[20:12:48] <DaCompu​terNerd> They were working in the bios
L235[20:12:48] <Blue_595> @Forecaster im writing my own BIOS; i cant use getPrimary() or component.componentName
L236[20:13:10] <Blue_595> and i wanna go really low level so im using invoke
L237[20:13:22] <DaCompu​terNerd> But you can replace getPrimary with `component.list("componentName")()`
L238[20:13:41] <Blue_595> i think thats actually what getPrimary does :)
L239[20:13:53] <DaCompu​terNerd> Probably
L240[20:14:22] <DaCompu​terNerd> It's probably more efficient than calling invoke repeatedly on the same component and saves having to get addresses
L241[20:15:40] <Blue_595> well we do actually have component.list(componentName)() for BIOS, but im just making a GPU bind to a screen
L242[20:15:59] <H​e> very very VERY new to opencomputers, where should i start?
L243[20:16:38] <Izaya> The manual.
L244[20:16:42] <Blue_595> wait component.list() returns an address and getPrimary returns a proxy
L245[20:16:47] <Izaya> It has a "Getting Started" section.
L246[20:16:59] <Blue_595> so getPrimary is like component.proxy(component.list(componentName)())
L247[20:17:25] <H​e> i don't even know lua, and i want to use oc to learn it
L248[20:18:04] <B​ob> time to slap tutorialspoint lua tutorial
L249[20:18:06] <Izaya> Yup. The mod has a manual, and that manual has a Getting Started section
L250[20:18:20] <Izaya> After that, I suggest Programming in Lua
L251[20:18:22] <Izaya> %pil
L252[20:18:23] <MichiBot> Iz​aya: https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html#P1
L253[20:18:26] <B​ob> Yeah, just learn Lua nad how it works
L254[20:18:31] <B​ob> then OC will be easy to understand
L255[20:18:47] <Blue_595> also you dont need another mod to get power; set ignorePower=true in config (i didnt know that, tried Mekanism)
L256[20:18:53] <Blue_595> (and it still didnt power the computer)
L257[20:18:58] <B​ob> Mekanism, poor you
L258[20:19:19] <B​ob> also how does one not have Thermal
L259[20:19:27] <Izaya> ew Thermal
L260[20:19:36] <Blue_595> tried thermal, had a mod conflict (tried it before Mekanism)
L261[20:19:47] <B​ob> wat
L262[20:20:07] <B​ob> https://www.tutorialspoint.com/lua btw
L263[20:20:16] <B​ob> also yeah read PIL too
L264[20:20:22] <H​e> i like Enderio
L265[20:20:38] <B​ob> Its fine
L266[20:20:41] <B​ob> and its power works for OC
L267[20:20:46] <H​e> i like Enderio
L268[20:20:59] <Klea​dron> Ok?
L269[20:21:11] <Izaya> Immersive Engineering, with EnderIO minus power generation <3
L270[20:21:48] <Blue_595> ok i completely forgot about EnderIO
L271[20:22:25] <Forec​aster> some mods require a power converter for them to power things in OC
L272[20:23:00] <H​e> can opencomputers access outside the minecraft? (e.g; www.example.org)
L273[20:23:15] <H​e> can opencomputers access things outside minecraft? (e.g; www.example.org) [Edited]
L274[20:23:21] <Forec​aster> you can make http requests yes
L275[20:23:26] <Forec​aster> with an internet card
L276[20:23:31] <B​ob> and tcp
L277[20:23:33] <B​ob> .
L278[20:23:35] <B​ob> ?
L279[20:23:54] <DaCompu​terNerd> Blue, `component.list("name")()` directly returns the component
L280[20:23:56] <H​e> *watches youtube tutorials about how to build x in minecraft in minecraft
L281[20:23:59] <H​e> *watches youtube tutorials about how to build x in minecraft in minecraft* [Edited]
L282[20:24:59] <DaCompu​terNerd> Cuz component.list("name") returns a table containing tables containing the address and component name for the items, and has a certain metatable thing set
L283[20:25:16] <DaCompu​terNerd> I dont know all the details
L284[20:25:38] <DaCompu​terNerd> But calling on that table directly returns the first component
L285[20:26:50] <Blue_595> @DaComputerNerd component.list("name") returns a lua iterable, so putting () after it gets the address out of it
L286[20:27:22] <DaCompu​terNerd> Really? Im honestly not sure
L287[20:27:41] <Blue_595> wait nvm it is a table, but it has iterator syntax with __call
L288[20:27:50] <B​ob> yeah its this
L289[20:27:52] <DaCompu​terNerd> That's what it was called
L290[20:27:55] <B​ob> metatables
L291[20:27:59] <DaCompu​terNerd> call
L292[20:28:00] <Izaya> metatables stronk
L293[20:28:05] <B​ob> yes
L294[20:28:22] <B​ob> id smash
L295[20:28:24] <Izaya> tomorrow's OS project: metatable OS
L296[20:28:26] <H​e> i'm honestly suprised there's an irc out there that's still active
L297[20:28:38] <Izaya> There's only oh
L298[20:28:44] <Izaya> 500k people on IRC nowadays
L299[20:29:04] <Izaya> oh, 400k
L300[20:29:25] <Blue_595> @He theres also #openredstone but please dont, people will think im spamming with alts (those idiots)
L301[20:29:27] ⇨ Joins: Backslash (~Backslash@d75-156-174-126.abhsia.telus.net)
L302[20:29:32] <Blue_595> wb Backslash
L303[20:29:59] * Izaya is in about 25 channels at the moment
L304[20:30:19] <H​e> how many of them are active?
L305[20:30:40] <Blue_595> found a really cheap components function in lua
L306[20:30:51] <Blue_595> for k,v in component.list() do print(k,v) end
L307[20:30:58] <Izaya> about 25 of them
L308[20:31:27] <Blue_595> the function just returns an address and name
L309[20:31:35] <Blue_595> address and type*
L310[20:32:01] <Izaya> Some more than others, of course, because some are vanishinly niche.
L311[20:32:47] * Blue_595 is in only 1 channel at the moment
L312[20:33:09] <Izaya> man, esper really is a small place, only 3k users on at the moment
L313[20:33:19] <Izaya> and I thought it was just coincidence that I kept bumping into people I know
L314[20:34:01] <Blue_595> :)
L315[20:34:37] <Forec​aster> the obvious answer is clones
L316[20:36:10] <Blue_595> also apparently raids dont act like cables
L317[20:36:26] <Blue_595> i had 8 of them, but only 1 was visible (the one directly next to the server)
L318[20:38:58] <Blue_595> and the raid isnt even in the documentation site
L319[20:39:52] <Izaya> It's in the manual \o/
L320[20:40:13] <Blue_595> yes in the manual item but not on ocdoc.cil.li, which is the only place i look for this stuff
L321[20:40:45] <Izaya> https://oc.shadowkat.net/oc/en_US/ may interest you
L322[20:41:25] <Blue_595> k
L323[20:42:08] <Blue_595> wait do multiple raids appear as a single file system?
L324[20:42:14] <Forec​aster> "took too long to respond"
L325[20:46:46] <Blue_595> also on ocdoc.cil.li in the Custom OS page im assuming the parts in blue are provided by lua, and the parts inwhite are from the machine?
L326[20:47:33] <Izaya> ~w custom os
L327[20:47:33] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L328[20:47:53] <Izaya> nah it's just wonky syntax highlighting
L329[20:48:04] <Izaya> ~w manual
L330[20:48:04] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/item:manual
L331[20:48:09] <Izaya> close, not quite
L332[20:48:11] <Blue_595> ok
L333[20:48:13] <Izaya> ~w lua manual
L334[20:48:13] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:manual
L335[20:48:16] <Izaya> ree
L336[20:48:26] <Izaya> https://www.lua.org/manual/5.3/
L337[20:48:33] <Izaya> the standard functions are in there
L338[20:48:36] <Blue_595> im assuming ocdoc is a bot
L339[20:48:50] <Izaya> Or perhaps a series of excited gerbils.
L340[20:48:56] <Blue_595> :)
L341[20:48:57] <Forec​aster> nah, it's the resident psychic
L342[20:49:03] <Forec​aster> they love making predictions
L343[20:49:10] <Forec​aster> always a few seconds late though, a shame
L344[20:49:19] <Blue_595> :)
L345[20:49:46] <Forec​aster> %sip
L346[20:49:47] <MichiBot> You drink a mutable amethyst potion (New!). Forec​aster turns into a rock fish boy until they have an apple.
L347[20:49:57] <Corded> * <Forec​aster> sinks
L348[20:50:12] <Blue_595> i have 12MB storage on my cloud setup rn, visible through an empty RAID
L349[20:50:16] <Amanda> RIP @Forecaster
L350[20:50:54] <Amanda> He died as he lived, starving to death on the ocean floor
L351[20:51:28] <Blue_595> important question: how much data can a floppy disk store
L352[20:51:37] <Amanda> IT's set in the config
L353[20:51:41] <Blue_595> ok
L354[20:51:42] <Forec​aster> ^
L355[20:51:43] <Amanda> same as hdds
L356[20:51:56] <Forec​aster> same as almost any thing that is a number :P
L357[20:52:05] <Forec​aster> and some things that aren't numbers
L358[20:52:11] <Blue_595> so my brother managed to already use up a terabyte of storage
L359[20:52:23] <Forec​aster> fire him
L360[20:52:39] <Blue_595> ive tried that already
L361[20:52:49] <Forec​aster> out of a cannon, into the sun
L362[20:53:13] <Amanda> %8ball cereal time?
L363[20:53:14] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Ask again later
L364[20:53:56] <Forec​aster> and thus continues amanda's adventure with the 8ball that refuses to answer most of the time
L365[20:55:04] <Amanda> one day I'll get a solid answer without beating it out of her
L366[20:55:45] <DaCompu​terNerd> %8ball will you ever answer amanda
L367[20:55:45] <MichiBot> DaCompu​​terNerd: I don't think that's a question...
L368[20:55:51] <DaCompu​terNerd> Oh no ?
L369[20:56:02] <Amanda> punctuation
L370[20:56:03] <DaCompu​terNerd> %8ball will you ever answer amanda?
L371[20:56:03] <MichiBot> DaCompu​​terNerd: Signs point to yes
L372[20:56:17] <DaCompu​terNerd> Well, that's something
L373[20:56:41] <Blue_595> im kind of error-prone with lua so should i just go ahead and disable the debug card?
L374[20:57:06] <Forec​aster> it's not a danger from accidents
L375[20:57:13] <Forec​aster> it can be a danger from malicious intent
L376[20:57:58] <Blue_595> in the debug card documentation a dev said he accidentally set a vertical slice of the world to signs without text
L377[20:58:18] <Blue_595> and it turns out floppies are 512KB
L378[20:59:00] <Blue_595> a bunch more data than a 5 1/4 inch floppy, even though the discs look more like 8"
L379[20:59:09] <Forec​aster> I mean that you can't accidentally do that if you don't go to set blocks with it
L380[20:59:12] <Blue_595> or even a 12" disc
L381[20:59:29] <Forec​aster> if you think you can't keep your mitts off of it then disable it I guess :P
L382[21:00:38] <Blue_595> you can run MC commands through it, which in and of itself would make most of it unnecessary
L383[21:04:18] <Blue_595> "It'll also emit light when off, because having state-based light in MC is... painful."
L384[21:06:08] ⇦ Quits: Blue_595 (~blue_595@47.196.78.56) (Remote host closed the connection)
L385[21:59:26] <Amanda> %8ball cereal time?
L386[21:59:27] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Reply hazy, try again
L387[21:59:30] <Amanda> %8ball cereal time?
L388[21:59:30] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Outlook not so good
L389[21:59:35] <Amanda> cereal time.
L390[22:00:52] <Amanda> Michibot was right, outlook not so good -- apparently my dad ordered pizza
L391[22:03:20] <Amanda> %8ball rainbox time?
L392[22:03:21] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: Without a doubt
L393[22:22:25] <Elfi> ...pizza sounds good tbh
L394[22:22:49] <Elfi> And it might have to be what I get because I may have to go out and help my sister unbrick her 3DS tonight
L395[22:23:54] <Mimiru> Nothing brings a family together quiet like a device unbricking
L396[22:29:57] ⇦ Quits: Inari (~Pinkishu@pD9E8FEAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)
L397[22:31:56] <Elfi> I'll be honest, that's not even that inaccurate for my family in general
L398[22:34:28] <Elfi> I have made house calls to my cousin and aunt to jailbreak tablets and upgrade computers, usually for $20 and the old parts (in the latter case). My mother has a long tradition of downloading cracked software and taught me safe browsing habits, but that's nothing compared to the dread pirate my father is--his idea of a christmas gift back in the heyday of the NDS was an Acekard preloaded with a ton of ROMs.
L399[22:34:51] <Elfi> My siblings and I grew up knowing how to make things ours.
L400[22:35:03] <Elfi> And gods is that an important lesson to have learned in this day and age.
L401[22:36:07] <Elfi> Also my sister got our dad's modded PS1 and a bunch of burned discs for it, though sadly the motor crapped out, so
L402[22:36:09] <Elfi> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L403[22:40:49] <Elfi> Out of curiosity I looked up a price for a PS2 modchip for her and found something cheap and sweet, so I think that's going to be a nonissue pretty soon
L404[22:45:22] <Mimiru> Nice
L405[22:48:57] <u​li> does anyone have a list of opencomputers servers to play on? whenever I google "opencomputers servers" all that comes up are the docs for the servers in opencomputers
L406[23:09:19] ⇦ Quits: Izaya (~izaya@210-1-218-92-cpe.spintel.net.au) (Ping timeout: 204 seconds)
L407[23:22:02] ⇨ Joins: Izaya (~izaya@210-1-218-92-cpe.spintel.net.au)
L408[23:47:21] * Amanda beams a fairy-slice over to Elfi
L409[23:48:12] <Amanda> I've decided that the little piece in the middle that sometimes happen when the cuts don't line up to disect the pizza perfectly are the fairy slices. :3
L410[23:49:52] <Brisingr​ Aerowing> Got a pizza ‘slice’ at Costco today. God those things are huge.
L411[23:54:02] <Amanda> There's a place on the boardwalk my family would go to in NJ with slices as big as my head
L412[23:54:27] <Amanda> They made like 30" pizzas then cut them into 6ths instead of 8ths
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