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L2[03:04:30] * Lizzy sighs
L3[03:04:52] <Lizzy> i regret not putting the btrfs tools in the initial ram disk thing on my laptop
L4[03:04:59] <Ariri> $drink
L5[03:05:10] <Lizzy> cause btrfs managed to fuck itself and i can't fix it without booting to a live media
L6[03:05:11] <Lizzy> %sip
L7[03:05:12] <MichiBot> You drink a solid silver potion (New!). Lizzy turns into a water shark boy for 29 seconds.
L8[03:05:21] <Lizzy> hmm
L9[03:05:45] <Ariri> %drink
L10[03:05:46] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy metal potion (New!). The potion was inside you all along.
L11[03:06:15] <Ariri> closed energy system
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L13[04:10:08] <Ariri> %8ball will i sleep well?
L14[04:10:08] <MichiBot> Ariri: Without a doubt
L15[04:10:23] <Ariri> thx Michi, all nighters ftw
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L18[04:44:36] <Forecaster> %sip
L19[04:44:36] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly citrus potion (New!). Forecaster feels like one particular wasp has it out for them suddenly.
L20[04:44:42] <Forecaster> ohno
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L23[05:36:52] <BohemianHacks> pathfinding and scanning is working great now. Have enough ram + battery to geolyzer pathfind 3x3 grid of chunks, scan them all, and keep them loaded. Pathfinding with the prescanned areas is basically instant.
L24[05:37:38] <BohemianHacks> Next up: making a long range pathfinding library for chunk to chunk movement by chaining the paths.
L25[05:39:28] <BohemianHacks> will basically be a 2d version of the same a* but using the block by block path from chunk center to chunk center as the cost for each node. Generating a chunk to chunk path, then walking that path to generate a full block by block path.
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L27[05:48:07] <Soni> payonel: anyway can you reopen the issue now that you understand it better? having it open could encourage others to work on it.
L28[05:48:27] <Soni> also maybe look into using GAnarchy to encourage others to work on OC
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L30[06:23:53] <Forecaster> %tonk
L31[06:23:54] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! Forecaster! You beat Mimiru's previous record of 5 hours, 14 minutes and 33 seconds (By 1 hour, 24 minutes and 21 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L32[06:23:55] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 6 hours, 38 minutes and 55 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00846 (0.00141 x 6) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L33[06:44:52] <Inari> AmandaC: God news!
L34[06:44:58] <Inari> I can use your poop to synthesize new things
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L36[06:47:32] <AmandaC> So that's why you're always stealing my poops
L37[06:48:01] <Forecaster> that doesn't sound like god news, that's not god news at all
L38[06:48:13] <Forecaster> (literally)
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L40[06:48:25] <Inari> *good
L41[06:48:26] <Inari> Shhh
L42[06:58:59] * Lizzy is currently unsure if her laptop's m.2 port is fucked, her linux ssd is fucked or if btrfs has just fucked itself over
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L44[07:21:26] <BohemianHacks> I just lost an hour of my life because I forgot to not a check
L45[07:21:38] <BohemianHacks> if not contains()... fail
L46[07:21:40] <BohemianHacks> fml
L47[07:24:11] <AmandaC> if not not contains()
L48[07:26:55] <BohemianHacks> big brain
L49[07:31:21] <AmandaC> Any news involving Inari is, unfortunately, God news, since she's the goddess of soil fertility
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L53[08:20:51] <ben_mkiv> anyone around who messed with discord api yet?
L54[08:21:22] <ben_mkiv> wonder if theres some way to fetch the last private messages & mentions with the API for my normal user account
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L56[08:28:42] <Inari> ben_mkiv: I thought the client itself uses the API?
L57[08:31:52] <Inari> Hmm are there any anime adventure/rpg/point'n'click games?
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L61[09:45:43] <Corded> * <Forecaster> grumbles about media codecs
L62[10:31:41] <payonel> fingercomp: hi
L63[10:36:18] <asie> Soni: FYI, i was *not* hit in the head for writing a PC-compatible emulator
L64[10:36:36] <asie> I was also *not* hit in the head for working on OC outside of mainline
L65[10:37:14] <asie> Inari: yes
L66[10:37:37] <Inari> asie: Names!
L67[10:37:44] <asie> Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon: Another Story
L68[10:38:01] <asie> is an RPG
L69[10:39:58] <Inari> Hmm not really what I thought of I guess, but I'll have a look
L70[10:40:14] <asie> well it's technically one
L71[10:40:24] <Inari> Sure but does it have adventure-y parts? :D
L72[10:40:40] <asie> i never played it
L73[10:40:59] <Inari> Heh
L74[10:52:59] <Soni> asie: maybe you just don't remember it
L75[10:53:18] <asie> being hit in the head?
L76[10:53:22] <Soni> yeah
L77[10:53:31] <asie> does anyone here remember me being hit in the head?
L78[10:53:48] <Mimiru> Nope.
L79[10:53:48] <Forecaster> does being shelled by MichiBot count?
L80[10:53:53] <Mimiru> ^^
L81[10:54:01] <Soni> no, but maybe we all got hit ib the head
L82[10:54:04] <Inari> %sip
L83[10:54:04] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly diamond potion (New!). Everything Inari says is now in Wingdings until their next sip of water.
L84[10:54:05] <Soni> in*
L85[10:54:07] <asie> %sip
L86[10:54:07] <MichiBot> You drink a sour purple potion (New!). asie gets a sudden Spice infusion. asie can see the universe. [Spice Addiction +1]
L87[10:54:21] <Mimiru> The spice must flow.
L88[10:54:23] <Mimiru> %sip
L89[10:54:23] <MichiBot> You drink a shimmering caterium potion (New!). Mimiru sees the sky briefly flash solid dark blue then go back to normal.
L90[10:54:26] <Inari> ?︎♏︎●︎●︎?︎ ⧫︎♒︎♋︎⧫︎⬧︎ ♓︎■︎♍︎□︎■︎❖︎♏︎■︎♓︎♏︎■︎⧫︎
L91[10:54:35] <Mimiru> Err..
L92[10:54:36] <Mimiru> wat?
L93[10:54:45] <Soni> dingbats
L94[10:54:55] <Inari> ?︎□︎♏︎⬧︎ ♍︎□︎●︎♋︎ ♍︎□︎◆︎■︎⧫︎ ♋︎⬧︎ ⬥︎♋︎⧫︎♏︎❒︎✍︎
L95[10:54:56] <Soni> (?)
L96[10:54:58] <Forecaster> Wingdings
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L98[10:55:05] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L99[10:55:08] <Soni> ah right
L100[10:55:09] <Izaya> windings 2
L101[10:55:12] <Mimiru> I can render like 4 of those characters.. lol
L102[10:55:26] <Soni> I always get those mixed up
L103[10:56:17] <Izaya> %shell Soni
L104[10:56:17] * MichiBot loads (NULL) into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near Soni, feldim2425 and pwootage. They each take 10, 8 and 8 splash damage respectively.
L105[10:57:18] <Soni> anyway I can't read that even if you paid me
L106[10:57:31] <Forecaster> %sip
L107[10:57:31] <MichiBot> You drink a sour metal potion (New!). Everything Forecaster says is now in Comic Sans until they see a star fall.
L108[10:58:30] <Soni> tfw MichiBot makes Forecaster accessible
L109[10:59:30] <Forecaster> k
L110[11:00:17] <Lizzy> hmm, i think my laptop's issue is a random btrfs one rather than hardware. think i'll do a backup of it tonight (readonly seems to work) and then try some more stuff on it
L111[11:01:32] <Lizzy> i'm guessing BTRFS doesn't like being ontop of a LUKS volume all that much
L112[11:01:36] <fingercomp> payonel: hello
L113[11:01:43] <Lizzy> or at least not on a laptop that goes into suspend/hibernate
L114[11:02:08] <payonel> Lizzy: what kernel version? i've been running btrfs on luks (quite actively) for about 5 years. zero failures/issues
L115[11:02:38] <Lizzy> whatever the latest one in Manjaro was a few weeks back
L116[11:02:51] <Mimiru> If I didn't know any better I'd say payonel was on BTRFS's payroll... :P
L117[11:02:53] <Mimiru> <3
L118[11:03:02] <payonel> i should be
L119[11:03:16] <Izaya> only issues I've had with btrfs on LUKS is from faulty memory
L120[11:03:18] <Izaya> not a good time
L121[11:03:21] <payonel> Lizzy: 5.3.7-gentoo
L122[11:04:01] <Lizzy> i mean, there is still the possible issue of hardware errors, but this is the first time i've tried BTRFS on LUKS
L123[11:04:34] <Izaya> I will note that running btrfs on md seemed to cause weird performance issues when I tried a few years ago
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L128[11:25:28] <Lizzy> and home
L129[11:26:03] <Bob> anyone crazy and bored enough to help me understand Wave function collapse and quantic superposition that comes with it
L130[11:26:49] <Lizzy> no
L131[11:27:05] <Bob> aw man
L132[11:27:16] <Mimiru> I'm with Lizzy on this one.
L133[11:27:29] <Mimiru> Gonna be a no from me dog.
L134[11:27:50] <Bob> ill frist made a LOVE2d graphical element node system then to make links and prepare the data essentially
L135[11:41:38] <ben_mkiv> pretty sure that any FS should work on luks
L136[11:42:19] <Lizzy> it wasn't so much of it not working, just that it has errors currently and idk why
L137[12:29:04] <Forecaster> still having major issues with video encoding and decoding... :|
L138[12:29:05] <Forecaster> ugh
L139[12:31:04] <asie> what are you up to?
L140[12:31:47] <Forecaster> trying to produce a video as I've done before, after re-installing my system
L141[12:31:52] <Forecaster> things aren't working correctly...
L142[12:33:45] <Forecaster> PowerDirector cannot open a pair of mov files that used to work
L143[12:34:05] <Forecaster> trying to convert them into mp4 with another program results in files not even VLC can open
L144[12:34:24] <Forecaster> vlc can play the mov files though
L145[12:38:37] <Forecaster> ,
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L147[12:46:21] <Forecaster> hrm
L148[12:46:33] <Forecaster> these video files may have been corrupted at some point...
L149[12:47:31] <Inari> So whats something that quickly and easily lets me throw together simple software? I tried Processing3, but that seems buggy and/or weird
L150[12:47:45] <Forecaster> define software
L151[12:48:16] <Inari> STuff that does stuff and has commandline or gui elements
L152[12:48:41] <Forecaster> Python
L153[12:52:58] <ben_mkiv> c
L154[12:53:37] <Lizzy> a
L155[12:53:47] <ben_mkiv> ssembler
L156[12:54:13] <ben_mkiv> Inari, i would say it depends on your goal and os
L157[12:59:07] <Inari> Mutli OS, multi feature :D
L158[12:59:25] <Inari> @Forecaster guessed that, any recommendations for GUI libs and image-editing ones? (editing pixel values, saving to a file)
L159[12:59:46] <Forecaster> I just use a webpage as a gui
L160[13:01:43] <Inari> How does that work
L161[13:01:57] <Lizzy> PySimpleGUI is kinda nice
L162[13:02:29] <Forecaster> I just have a script that runs a webserver and a few paths that do different things
L163[13:02:52] <Inari> Hmm sounds like a pain, will try PySimpleGUI
L164[13:03:14] <Forecaster> I need it to specifically be available via the network so
L165[13:22:24] <Inari> Now to figure out how to make PySimpleGUI display a Pillow image
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L167[13:22:42] <polyzium> Good evening everyone
L168[13:22:55] <Inari> %hello
L169[13:22:56] <MichiBot> Inari: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L170[13:22:59] <Bob> henlo
L171[13:23:02] <Bob> Wb actually ?
L172[13:23:42] <polyzium> I was yesterday so yea xd
L173[13:24:14] <Bob> yes
L174[13:24:59] <polyzium> I got rid of Love2D APIs
L175[13:25:25] <Bob> wat
L176[13:25:35] <polyzium> That emulator depended on Love2D
L177[13:25:44] <Bob> what OC ?
L178[13:26:07] <polyzium> 1.7.4
L179[13:26:23] <polyzium> Love2D is an entirely separate platform, a game engine to be precise
L180[13:26:29] <Bob> framework
L181[13:26:32] <Bob> and i don't use it for games
L182[13:26:33] <Bob> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L183[13:26:52] <polyzium> What you use it for? if you ever use it
L184[13:27:14] <Bob> well things
L185[13:27:21] <Bob> now gotta get the wave function collapse done
L186[13:27:24] <Bob> ive dont HTTPS stuff
L187[13:27:31] <Bob> but faield cause i don't know shit about HTTPS actually
L188[13:27:47] <polyzium> Me neither, all these encryption operations
L189[13:27:48] <Bob> it's graphical abilities easy and fast
L190[13:27:56] <Bob> someone runs a discord bot actually
L191[13:27:57] <polyzium> Graphics are cool ngl
L192[13:28:06] <Bob> yes
L193[13:28:47] <Inari> I guess I want osmething like love2d, yeah. :P But not directly that
L194[13:29:47] <Bob> I mean you have libs and C FFI
L195[13:29:52] <polyzium> Inari: for Python these Pyxel for retro style games, not exactly like Love but does a similar thing
L196[13:29:52] <Bob> literally mutable strings in lua
L197[13:29:53] <Bob> godlike
L198[13:29:57] <polyzium> s/these/there's/
L199[13:29:57] <MichiBot> <polyzium> Inari: for Python there's Pyxel for retro style games, not exactly like Love but does a similar thing
L200[13:30:00] <Bob> Love is for anything really
L201[13:30:10] <Bob> it has 3d functions and can be used for that aswell
L202[13:30:11] <Inari> Don't need game stuff really
L203[13:30:18] <Bob> same yea
L204[13:30:21] <Bob> but its not really for games
L205[13:30:24] <Bob> until you shape it so
L206[13:30:30] <Bob> it has a good toolset really
L207[13:30:39] <Bob> i use it for random stuff so
L208[13:30:47] <Inari> Just nice since it has everythign integrated
L209[13:30:52] <Bob> yep portable
L210[13:30:54] <Bob> and cross platform
L211[13:30:55] <Inari> You don't need to install 10 packages that may or may not work together
L212[13:30:59] <Bob> ¯\(ツ)/¯
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L215[13:38:01] <Soni> love is okay for image editor
L216[13:38:24] <Soni> lack of native sctp makes me sad tho
L217[13:39:37] <polyzium> SCTP? Is that the new TCP?
L218[13:39:57] <polyzium> I've heard some people from another crew talking about it
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L220[13:50:24] <Arther> I don't know if there are anybody, however i'll ask anyway. Is there a way to allow this system to read and display png or jpg images?
L221[13:50:43] <Bob> png and jpg are far tooo complex formats
L222[13:50:52] <Bob> and OC screens far too low res
L223[13:50:58] <Bob> there are img formats and libs for that
L224[13:51:05] <Bob> i remember RPH doing one
L225[13:51:09] <Bob> or MineOS dev has one
L226[13:51:19] <Bob> he has a very sophisticated and gigantic bloaty GUI lib
L227[13:51:37] <polyzium> Arther: ^ there's a way to display ANY images though, you can use braille characters for fake bitmaps, there's the CTIF image format that you can convert your images to
L228[13:52:31] <Arther> So, i can convert a jpg to pic format?
L229[13:52:40] <polyzium> JPEG to CTIF
L230[13:52:56] <polyzium> And then use ctifview from openprograms to display them
L231[13:53:13] <Bob> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L232[13:53:20] <Bob> you will need to convert yea
L233[13:53:24] <Bob> thats defenitely required
L234[13:53:33] <Bob> braille color depth is a problem tough
L235[13:53:43] <Bob> per OC character slot you can have max 2 colors
L236[13:54:03] <polyzium> Yes
L237[13:54:05] <Arther> What do you mean?
L238[13:54:07] <polyzium> 2 colours per cell
L239[13:54:11] <Bob> yes
L240[13:54:27] <polyzium> Arther: you know how Commodore 64 handles colour? You'll get a similar thing here
L241[13:55:02] <Arther> something like 16bit color?
L242[13:55:24] <polyzium> Worse: 16 colours
L243[13:55:28] <polyzium> not even 16 bit
L244[13:55:49] <polyzium> The screen is composed out of character cells.
L245[13:56:05] <polyzium> Each character cell has a fore- and a background colour
L246[13:56:31] <polyzium> Thanks to Unicode and the funscii font, we can use Braille characters to fake bitmaps
L247[13:56:47] <Bob> yea
L248[13:57:17] <polyzium> Each chracter cell can fit 2x8 pixels
L249[13:57:21] <polyzium> and has 2 colours
L250[13:57:31] <polyzium> that can be displayed at the same time in each cell.
L251[13:58:15] <polyzium> Example of an image converted and rendered by CTIF: https://i.postimg.cc/8CkNwXGY/image.png
L252[13:59:04] <polyzium> See those blocks that resemble JPEG artifacts? This is cells' colour limitation
L253[13:59:43] <Soni> SCTP is the only way to talk to two different systems over TLS on the same connection
L254[13:59:56] <Soni> (without resorting to nested encryption, that is)
L255[14:00:02] <Arther> i'll go to see it, also, i'll return in a small amount of time...the energy grid is low right now, and this thing will shutdown in 9 minutes or so, i'll go to solve the energy issue =P
L256[14:00:32] <polyzium> Alright
L257[14:01:09] <polyzium> pssst. His English isn't that great, maybe he's Russian
L258[14:01:50] <Soni> call it a hack, call it absolutely useless, but I exploit that property quite nicely IMO.
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L260[14:04:40] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L261[14:04:40] <MichiBot> Dogast! CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 6 hours, 38 minutes and 55 seconds (By 1 hour, 1 minute and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L262[14:04:41] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 7 hours, 40 minutes and 46 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00721 (0.00103 x 7) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L263[14:04:46] <CompanionCube> oh wow
L264[14:06:30] <Forecaster> aw
L265[14:06:51] <Arther> Alright, i came back. I think the
L266[14:07:23] <CompanionCube> Forecaster:it's ok you forgot to tonkout
L267[14:08:52] <Arther> I think tcif will be enough for what i need. Also, polyzium, im from spain, so, my apologies for this low level of english...the sad thing is that i'm one of the top English students on my highschool XD
L268[14:09:13] <polyzium> Oh god
L269[14:09:20] <polyzium> Well there's nothing to stop you, keep improving!
L270[14:09:36] <Arther> I know, right? =D
L271[14:10:11] <polyzium> I'm from Russia but your English sounds like you're from Russia, turns out I was mistaken xd
L272[14:10:15] <asie> CTIF is the current state of the art but I think I can do a little better than that
L273[14:10:41] <polyzium> Well asie you're a madman you even made nadeshicodec for 320x200 videos
L274[14:10:49] <Arther> Come to spain in summer...you will hate heat forever XD
L275[14:10:51] <asie> ICE2 is better in terms of quality even if low-res
L276[14:10:54] <asie> and Nadeshicodec was terrible.
L277[14:11:01] <asie> I mostly dropped it because the hackiness of the code was... too much.
L278[14:11:17] <polyzium> ICE2?
L279[14:11:22] <polyzium> is it braille-based too?
L280[14:11:25] <asie> greaser|q's original codecs
L281[14:11:27] <asie> nope, it's not
L282[14:11:34] <asie> it uses solid blocks only, but doesn't limit itself to sets
L283[14:11:36] <asie> it also uses GPU copies
L284[14:11:37] <polyzium> Rip still 160x50
L285[14:11:47] <asie> and the encoder features motion detection
L286[14:12:01] <polyzium> ICE1's quality is horrible
L287[14:12:02] <Arther> Speaking of that...why the limit is 160x50?
L288[14:12:04] <asie> ICE1, yes
L289[14:12:26] <polyzium> Arther: because that's the screen's character resolution
L290[14:12:29] <asie> Arther: the tier 3 screen/GPU resolution limit is 160 in length and 8000 characters total
L291[14:12:31] <asie> 160 * 50 = 8000
L292[14:12:42] <asie> but a little known fact is that you can also do, say, 140 x 57
L293[14:13:04] <Inari> 1*8000
L294[14:13:07] <asie> no
L295[14:13:11] <polyzium> My friend also made a file format and a drawing library
L296[14:13:14] <asie> you still have a maximum edge length of 160
L297[14:13:22] <polyzium> The converter uses EVEN MORE DITHERING than CTIF
L298[14:13:24] <Arther> I know that, but i mean, why is that limit there when they made this mod?
L299[14:13:24] <Inari> Sad
L300[14:13:33] <asie> polyzium: CTIF lets you configure itself to use "more dithering"
L301[14:13:35] <asie> check out the command-line args
L302[14:13:45] <polyzium> The converter? I'm using the web one
L303[14:13:51] <asie> No, the Java one
L304[14:13:53] <asie> it has lots of options
L305[14:13:57] <asie> not sure how many of them are exposed on the web frontend
L306[14:14:06] <Arther> You...have the code running on eclipse?
L307[14:14:08] <asie> I didn't even remember there /was/ a web frontend
L308[14:14:11] <polyzium> Very few...
L309[14:14:15] <polyzium> asie: https://cax.no/conv/index.html
L310[14:14:27] <asie> Arther: Because of trying to limit network usage
L311[14:14:36] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L312[14:14:36] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with an old court order for a drug-related scandal. 1 health gained! The old court order for a drug-related scandal vibrates into the ground.
L313[14:14:37] <asie> polyzium: that's very few indeed
L314[14:15:22] <asie> https://paste.asie.pl/AJrw check this out
L315[14:15:47] <polyzium> Yo that's a lot
L316[14:16:07] <Arther> i'll check it out...wooden PC =(
L317[14:16:18] <Arther> i'll go back soon XD
L318[14:16:20] <polyzium> I bet the web one uses a little bit of error diffusion
L319[14:16:25] <polyzium> or whatever taht is
L320[14:16:34] <asie> the default is maximum floyd-steinberg error diffusion
L321[14:16:46] <asie> but i have always been a fan of slightly toned down (--dither-level 0.8 i think) ordered 4x4, or so.
L322[14:16:50] <polyzium> OK damn it I gotta get back to rewriting the drawing code
L323[14:16:58] <asie> :-)
L324[14:17:08] <asie> and as i said - i still want to make it a bit better quality-wise
L325[14:17:17] <asie> mostly in terms of the palette generation code, i think i can improve on what is currently there
L326[14:18:25] <polyzium> The drawing library I have can draw pixels individually
L327[14:18:32] <polyzium> i.e. braille stuff
L328[14:18:53] <polyzium> and does some calculation on colours if it encounters more than 2 colours in a char cell
L329[14:19:05] <asie> CTIF brute-forces hard, which is slow but affordable outside of OC
L330[14:19:18] <asie> lunatic86's emulator uses a far worse algorithm, but i fail to remember what it is
L331[14:19:24] <Arther> polyzium: About the cax.no, when i upload the image, what's next?
L332[14:19:33] <polyzium> I haven't tried yet but once I get rewrite the emulator drawing code I'll get it working in some way
L333[14:19:43] <asie> oh, it looks for the two most distant colors in the 2x4 area
L334[14:19:48] <asie> if there are more than two colors
L335[14:20:32] <polyzium> Arther: Copy the command it gives to you, then paste it into your PC, it downloads the image
L336[14:20:42] <polyzium> Download ctifview from oppm
L337[14:20:42] <asie> lunatic86 was fun
L338[14:21:34] <polyzium> asie: I bet you can improve LuaGB if you made Lunatic usable, the original author tried to port it to OC but it takes 1 hours to skip a game's intro
L339[14:21:43] <polyzium> 1 hour*
L340[14:22:01] <Arther> MineOS has oppm installed too or i must go to the openOS
L341[14:22:05] <asie> lunatic86 doesn't need to worry about cycle accuracy
L342[14:22:11] <asie> that's the trick
L343[14:22:41] <polyzium> You must use OpenOS, MineOS's graphics stuff will conflict with CTIF
L344[14:23:05] <polyzium> Also you need an internet card
L345[14:23:35] <polyzium> and depending on your settings, a tier2/3 screen&GPU (tier3 is the default)
L346[14:24:15] <Arther> Internet card is already installed on the other server, so it will work
L347[14:26:03] <Forecaster> sigh
L348[14:26:19] <Forecaster> have I mentioned I hate dealing with video codec garbage
L349[14:26:36] <Forecaster> I will have to continue investigating this some other time...
L350[14:27:56] <Arther> Well, i think you not...however, it's my first day with MineOS...
L351[14:28:11] <Arther> So, sorry
L352[14:30:03] <bauen1> is there any better way of dealing with ctrl+c than implementing this stupid "process is controlling the terminal" thingy ?
L353[14:30:20] <Forecaster> what?
L354[14:30:25] <polyzium> 'scuse me
L355[14:30:41] <bauen1> i'm working on my os and i'm trying to implement ctrl+c in a sane way
L356[14:31:23] <Forecaster> what's wrong with how openos does it?
L357[14:34:15] <bauen1> having actually seperated processes (that don't directly process events and only get what they need) make implementing it that way a bit hard
L358[14:35:18] <bauen1> *makes
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L362[14:53:00] <Lizzy> %inv add A Ring of Teleportation that teleports the ring - but not the wearer - to the intended location
L363[14:53:00] * MichiBot compresses the sentence into a more manageable format since it was too long.
L364[14:53:05] <Lizzy> :<
L365[14:54:18] <Lizzy> %inv add An unfortunate series of events
L366[14:54:19] * MichiBot summons 'An unfortunate series of events' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L367[14:54:58] <Lizzy> %inv add Measuring String
L368[14:54:58] * MichiBot summons 'Measuring String' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L369[14:55:55] * Lizzy grumbles
L370[14:56:00] <Lizzy> why is it already 9pm
L371[14:56:31] <Mimiru> Pffft, it's not even 1PM yet..
L372[14:57:08] <Lizzy> %inv add An Unstoppable Force
L373[14:57:09] * MichiBot summons 'An Unstoppable Force' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L374[14:57:20] <Lizzy> %inv add An Immovable Object
L375[14:57:21] * MichiBot summons 'An Immovable Object' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L376[14:57:31] <Lizzy> k, enough stuff given to MichiBot
L377[14:58:00] <Mimiru> %inv add An Immovable Force
L378[14:58:00] * MichiBot summons 'An Immovable Force' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L379[14:58:09] <Mimiru> %inv add An Unstoppable Object
L380[14:58:09] * MichiBot summons 'An Unstoppable Object' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L381[14:58:25] <polyzium> %inv add MISSINGNO.
L382[14:58:49] <Forecaster> I don't know if my computer is wonky or if my keyboard is breaking but the number row seems to not work most of the time now...
L383[15:01:00] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot an odd number of crutches
L384[15:01:01] * MichiBot accepts the odd number of crutches and adds it to her inventory
L385[15:01:27] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot a society of puffins
L386[15:01:28] * MichiBot accepts the society of puffins and adds it to her inventory
L387[15:02:07] <Forecaster> it's very annoying when I want to type quotes or other symbols...
L388[15:02:33] <AmandaC> Toggle the connection?
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L390[15:02:42] <Forecaster> what?
L391[15:02:44] * Lizzy gives MichiBot a nurder present
L392[15:02:52] <Lizzy> aww, it doesn't work that way
L393[15:02:59] <Lizzy> %give MichiBot Murder Present
L394[15:02:59] * MichiBot accepts Murder Present and adds it to her inventory
L395[15:03:15] <AmandaC> Unplug / plug or disconnect / reconnect @Forecaster
L396[15:04:06] <Forecaster> doesn't help
L397[15:05:04] <Mimiru> Have you tried C4?
L398[15:05:35] <Forecaster> if the keys are scattered all over it'll make it even more difficult to type anything
L399[15:05:59] <Lizzy> A spork?
L400[15:09:08] <Forecaster> it has to be a software issue...
L401[15:09:15] <Forecaster> alt + key always work
L402[15:09:25] <Forecaster> but key and shift + key rarely work now...
L403[15:12:20] <AmandaC> Shitty keylogger?
L404[15:14:10] <AmandaC> So, I had a realisation
L405[15:14:15] <Forecaster> the nerve D:<
L406[15:14:49] <Forecaster> how dare they install poorly coded malware on my system D:
L407[15:15:01] <Ocawesome101> Hmm
L408[15:15:07] <AmandaC> Even with michibot being unable to delete stuff, the invasion of magic magic too (25%) (25%) would have happened
L409[15:15:11] <Forecaster> well it seems to be working again now...
L410[15:17:33] <Mimiru> AmandaC, hmm?
L411[15:19:02] <AmandaC> Mimiru: unless MichiBot is doing something weird to existing rows when generating those, it'll still be getting extra entries, just with the deletion broken the old ones wouldn't be removed.
L412[15:19:16] <AmandaC> Mimiru: so eventually we may end up with magic magic foo (25%) (25%) again
L413[15:20:36] <Forecaster> it's more that items weren't removed when used, so they would remain in there forever
L414[15:21:32] <AmandaC> just without*
L415[15:21:57] <AmandaC> %8ball space empire?
L416[15:21:57] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Ask again later
L417[15:23:43] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/436555823423160320/642111945872375818/unknown.png RIP
L418[15:24:20] <Forecaster> no galactic network for you
L419[15:47:03] <Inari> Oh ffs
L420[15:47:32] <Inari> How hard can it be to just write a simple program ;-;
L421[15:47:45] <Mimiru> Impossible
L422[15:47:55] <Inari> Screw it, I'm using love2d
L423[15:48:12] <Forecaster> impawsible
L424[15:49:00] <Bob> ¯\(ツ)/¯
L425[15:49:01] <Bob> Yea
L426[15:49:02] <Forecaster> did you try to json prase html? :P
L427[15:49:05] <Bob> Love2d godlike
L428[15:49:06] <Bob> tm
L429[15:49:16] <Bob> its actually quite decent with FFI
L430[15:49:20] <Forecaster> parse*
L431[15:49:31] <Inari> No
L432[15:49:44] <Inari> I'm just trying to get a stupid UI that can display an image I can manipulate pixelwise
L433[15:49:55] <Inari> NodeJS doesn't work because node hates VS2019 or something
L434[15:50:14] <Inari> Python might work, but I can't be bothered trying to figure out how to make diffrent libs work together that apparently don't want to :P
L435[15:50:26] <Forecaster> that doesn't sound simple
L436[15:50:35] <Inari> How so?
L437[15:52:19] <Forecaster> what do you mean "how so?"
L438[15:54:08] <Inari> What about it isn't simple
L439[15:54:33] <Forecaster> image manipulation?
L440[15:54:44] <Forecaster> I said "sound"
L441[15:55:04] <Inari> It's mostly randomizing an image, so, simple
L442[15:55:04] <Inari> :D
L443[15:56:00] <Forecaster> kay
L444[16:19:40] <AmandaC> %choose halucinate or space empire
L445[16:19:40] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Elementary dear Watson, "space empire" is the obvious choice!
L446[16:19:51] <AmandaC> Yes it is. but is it maybe **too** obvious?
L447[16:19:57] <AmandaC> oh well
L448[16:20:18] <Inari> https://hastebin.com/isaparanip.lua there, simple
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L451[16:53:19] <Soni> telling my mom about the threats I received did not go well
L452[16:53:53] <AdorableCatgirl> ok
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L454[16:55:19] <Adorable-Catgirl> so!
L455[16:55:28] <Bob> ok
L456[16:55:33] <Adorable-Catgirl> in fun news
L457[16:55:53] <Adorable-Catgirl> i've successfully used luacomp with languages other than lua
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L459[16:56:21] <Adorable-Catgirl> wot
L460[16:56:50] <Adorable-Catgirl> oh that's why it wouldn't let me connect under my normal nick
L461[16:56:58] <Bob> wot
L462[16:57:07] <Adorable-Catgirl> /e nae nae
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L464[16:57:22] <AdorableCatgirl> lmao
L465[16:57:56] <Bob> eee
L466[16:58:39] <AdorableCatgirl> ea spork
L467[16:58:41] <AdorableCatgirl> it game
L468[17:02:24] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways
L469[17:02:36] <AdorableCatgirl> i should probably actually get around to making a soundcard for OC
L470[17:04:11] <polyzium> AdorableCatgirl: Computronics
L471[17:04:18] <Bob> computronics has
L472[17:04:19] <Bob> yes
L473[17:04:24] <Bob> sneaky
L474[17:04:28] <polyzium> But if you want a challenge...
L475[17:04:32] <polyzium> THen make a sampler card
L476[17:04:36] <Mimiru> https://github.com/gamax92/MassSound Also that :P
L477[17:04:52] <Mimiru> Likely not what you're shooting for, I know lol
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L479[17:09:01] <AdorableCatgirl> I'm cloning a thing
L480[17:09:11] <AdorableCatgirl> like
L481[17:09:28] <AdorableCatgirl> ym2608
L482[17:09:30] <AdorableCatgirl> sorta
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L489[18:27:41] <dooberdude> hi
L490[18:27:47] <Bob> henlo
L491[18:28:00] <dooberdude> this is so cool
L492[18:28:53] <Bob> Welcome
L493[18:28:54] <Bob> ¯\(ツ)/¯
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L499[20:12:43] <Izaya> %tell ZefTheFox If you're still taking requests for OC case models, any chance I could get a HPPA box like this one? https://nextcloud.shadowkat.net/s/WwEQH7ekWe7NLbE
L500[20:12:43] <MichiBot> Izaya: ZefTheFox will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L502[23:01:36] <{Opsimath}Shawn> woa thats neat Izaya
L503[23:01:54] <{Opsimath}Shawn> is that early 90s?
L504[23:10:44] <Ariri> grr chrome remote desktop doesn’t work outbound on my pc but fine on mobile for some reason
L505[23:10:44] <Ariri> Anyone know good alternatives ?
L506[23:13:17] <The_Stargazer> for remote desktop?
L507[23:14:22] <Ariri> yeah
L508[23:14:31] <Ariri> %tonk
L509[23:14:32] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Ariri! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 7 hours, 40 minutes and 46 seconds (By 1 hour, 29 minutes and 4 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L510[23:14:33] <MichiBot> Ariri's new record is 9 hours, 9 minutes and 50 seconds! Ariri also gained 0.01184 (0.00148 x 8) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L511[23:18:59] <The_Stargazer> teamviewer?
L512[23:22:01] <Ariri> I was thinking of it but is it good and does itrequire physical access to the remote machine?
L513[23:22:29] <Izaya> {Opsimath}Shawn: could be late 80s
L514[23:22:36] <Izaya> wouldn't be any later than 2000 though
L515[23:23:38] <{Opsimath}Shawn> yea
L516[23:23:53] <Izaya> series 400, apparently
L517[23:23:55] <Izaya> 1990
L518[23:24:04] <The_Stargazer> teamviewer is pretty good and it can run unattended
L519[23:24:19] <The_Stargazer> iirc it can also run at startup
L520[23:24:45] <Izaya> 68k machine, so technically not HPPA at all. Oh well.
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L522[23:26:41] <{Opsimath}Shawn> ooh nice motorola
L523[23:31:22] <Izaya> {Opsimath}Shawn: https://nextcloud.shadowkat.net/s/SbZ6WiAtmzem4sL
L524[23:37:01] <Ariri> i got it but idk how to disable prompt for control confirmations
L525[23:40:09] <{Opsimath}Shawn> Izaya, awesome collection!
L526[23:45:43] <Ariri> nm got it
L527[23:45:48] <Ariri> %drink
L528[23:45:50] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly weather potion (New!). Ariri's eyes glow transparent until they see a unicorn.
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