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L4[00:38:44] <Izaya> %remindme finish risk assessment
L5[00:38:50] <Izaya> %remindme 2h finish risk assessment
L6[00:38:50] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "finish risk assessment" at 11/06/2019 02:38:50 AM
L7[00:57:32] <BohemianHacks> finnish risk assessment: Finland remains neutral, viking activity low in recent times, but you can never be too careful. Risk level 4/10
L8[01:03:29] <Ariri> %remind me 2d update node
L9[01:03:49] <Ariri> %remindme 2d 12h update node
L10[01:03:49] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "12h update node" at 11/08/2019 01:03:49 AM
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L13[02:22:09] <Lizzy> fuck me, only been in for 20 minutes and already had 6 people come to the office...
L14[02:38:51] <MichiBot> Izaya REMINDER: finish risk assessment
L15[02:50:19] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L16[02:50:20] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! CompanionCube! You beat Caitlyn's previous record of 11 hours, 42 minutes and 28 seconds (By 35 minutes and 33 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L17[02:50:21] <MichiBot> CompanionCube has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.012 tonk points! plus 0.011 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.66915
L18[03:27:32] <Lizzy> %tonk
L19[03:27:33] <MichiBot> Willikers! Lizzy! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of <0 (By 37 minutes and 13 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L20[03:27:34] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 37 minutes and 13 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00062 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L21[03:29:40] <Forecaster> aw dangit I was distracted by work D:
L22[04:01:30] <Forecaster> https://robocode.sourceforge.io/
L23[04:22:53] <Lizzy> https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2019/10/this-time-there-really-are-no-ipv4-internet-addresses-left.html
L24[04:23:50] <Forecaster> it's the end of the world!
L25[04:28:59] <Lizzy> %tonk
L26[04:28:59] <MichiBot> Sard! Lizzy! You beat your own previous record of 37 minutes and 13 seconds (By 24 minutes and 12 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L27[04:29:00] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 1 hour, 1 minute and 25 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.0004)
L28[04:29:16] <Lizzy> hm
L29[04:29:52] <BohemianHacks> welp, got the lighter memory version of pathfinding done.
L30[04:29:54] <Forecaster> seems Corded's avatar loading is borked again
L31[04:30:10] <Forecaster> the custom ones that is, the letter ones are working correctly
L32[04:30:14] <BohemianHacks> might do a head to head test on my maze to see how much better
L33[04:51:11] <Soni> we need more nat64
L34[05:00:31] <BohemianHacks> similar time running the maze but about 12% less memory
L35[05:00:49] <BohemianHacks> and its a fairly short path so that would scale
L36[05:01:25] <BohemianHacks> can be optimized more I think but I feel a little better about it
L37[05:11:10] <BohemianHacks> next test: disabling sanity checks and telling them to path to an impossible location. Then seeing how many nodes it can explore before running out of memory.
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L42[05:18:03] <BohemianHacks> memory lite version might actually run out of power before memory, that would be cool
L43[05:23:10] <BohemianHacks> <10% power left. Either I screwed something up or its way more memory efficient
L44[05:49:57] <BohemianHacks> lol yep
L45[05:50:10] <BohemianHacks> original: 1023 nodes scanned
L46[05:50:25] <BohemianHacks> new: 4242 nodes scanned
L47[05:50:34] <BohemianHacks> didnt even run out of memory, just power
L48[06:01:22] <asie> Soni: I forked OpenComputers because there was no reasonable way to test my changes without merging them otherwise - you might find it a good option for you to do the same
L49[06:30:08] <Lizzy> %tonkout
L50[06:30:09] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Lizzy! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 1 minute and 25 seconds (By 59 minutes and 43 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L51[06:30:10] <MichiBot> Lizzy has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.002 tonk points! plus 0.002 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.59193
L52[06:35:22] <Forecaster> %sip
L53[06:35:23] <MichiBot> You drink a light violium potion (New!). Forecaster gains an additional bone.
L54[06:41:33] <FeherNeoH> %tonk
L55[06:41:33] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! FeherNeoH! You beat Lizzy's previous record of <0 (By 11 minutes and 24 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L56[06:41:34] <MichiBot> FeherNeoH's new record is 11 minutes and 24 seconds! FeherNeoH also gained 0.00019 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L58[07:39:56] <Forecaster> https://swordscomic.com/swords/CCCXXXII/
L59[07:40:10] <Forecaster> perfectly sensible in my opinion :P
L60[07:40:56] <AmandaC> hahaha
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L63[08:13:33] <AmandaC> %choose halucinate or build a space empire
L64[08:13:34] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I received a message from future you, said to go with "halucinate".
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L66[08:30:11] <AdorableCatgirl> kono dio da
L67[08:30:49] <Lizzy> %tonk
L68[08:30:49] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! Lizzy! You beat FeherNeoH's previous record of 11 minutes and 24 seconds (By 1 hour, 37 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L69[08:30:50] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 1 hour, 49 minutes and 16 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00163 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L70[08:33:15] * Lizzy big flex
L71[08:37:07] <AmandaC> Right, that's enough halucinating. Time to expand my space empire.
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L79[10:30:51] <Caitlyn> %tonk
L80[10:30:56] <MichiBot> Willikers! Caitlyn! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 1 hour, 49 minutes and 16 seconds (By 10 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L81[10:30:57] <MichiBot> Caitlyn's new record is 2 hours and 7 seconds! Caitlyn also gained 0.00036 (0.00018 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L82[10:31:31] <Lizzy> Woah
L83[10:31:34] * Lizzy falls over
L84[10:31:52] * Lizzy then runs in circles around AmandaC
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L86[10:42:32] <polyzium> Hey everyone, I have a question to ask: will OC get LuaJIT sooner or later?
L87[10:43:47] <Bob> Minecraft is Java
L88[10:43:51] <Bob> and you can't have LuaJIT in JAva
L89[10:44:00] <Bob> since it will be against the whole concept of JIT
L90[10:44:08] <Bob> thats really silly
L91[10:44:11] <Bob> it doesnt even use Lua
L92[10:44:17] <Bob> but an JAva reimplementation of Lua
L93[10:44:30] <Bob> JNLua for the OC fork and LuaJ for original
L94[10:45:14] <polyzium> Then how does OC have access to netive libraries? JNI or something?
L95[10:45:19] <polyzium> native*
L96[10:46:48] <polyzium> If it can use native Lua 5.x libraries then it can use LuaJIT too, can it?
L97[10:47:36] <Bob> i mean you can try
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L100[10:49:10] <polyzium> Also what fork were you talking about?
L101[10:50:06] * AmandaC meows at Lizzy, getting dizzy from following her with her head
L102[10:50:41] <AmandaC> @Bob OC uses native Lua by default, where there's binaries for it.
L103[10:50:56] <AmandaC> polyzium: the real issue with luaJit would be it's stuck in 5.1, last I heard.
L104[10:51:11] <polyzium> I mean OC has been purposely made slow as a turtle, so slow that something like TI Nspire would be much faster
L105[10:52:15] <polyzium> Because I'm on a local world I tried to edit the config so I can squeeze all the performance I could get from it
L106[10:52:23] <Bob> https://charset.asie.pl/ocstaging/
L107[10:52:26] <Bob> here
L108[10:52:33] <Bob> vanilla isn't a problem at small scale
L109[10:52:33] <polyzium> unfortunately that won't work
L110[10:52:35] <Bob> its decently fast
L111[10:52:53] <Bob> and to get faster computers just increase CPU cycles in teh config
L112[10:53:00] <Bob> that will drastically change things
L113[10:53:03] <polyzium> AmandaC: LuaJIT is 5.1 with 5.2 additions.
L114[10:53:10] <Bob> yea
L115[10:53:17] <Bob> Lua but very fast since JIT
L116[10:53:17] <AmandaC> polyzium: OC is getting the beginnings of support for 5.3
L117[10:53:19] <Bob> and with FFI
L118[10:53:24] <Bob> calling C from Lua
L119[10:53:31] <Bob> the fork has Lua 5.4
L120[10:55:05] <polyzium> I'll look at the config again, maybe I missed something
L121[11:01:45] <polyzium> @Bob These are called call budgets right?
L122[11:03:02] <Bob> iirc
L123[11:03:09] <Bob> it's been quite some time ive touched to MC
L124[11:03:23] <polyzium> Me too, but came back recently
L125[11:06:37] * Lizzy stops, then pounces on AmandaC, hugs before going back to zoomie mode
L126[11:10:49] <Forecaster> sigh
L127[11:11:34] <asie> all OC uses JNLua
L128[11:11:42] <asie> LuaJ is supported but on a "you lose a lot of the fancy stuff" basis
L129[11:11:50] <Forecaster> OBS just caused my gpu to crash... playing Anarcute...
L130[11:12:01] <Forecaster> probably because it doesn't have enough power
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L132[11:36:22] <Forecaster> new 650W supply ordered, up from my current 350W
L133[11:36:24] <Forecaster> woo
L134[11:36:31] <Caitlyn> 3...50?!
L135[11:36:40] <Forecaster> mhm
L136[11:36:43] <Caitlyn> O_O
L137[11:36:51] <Forecaster> that's what it says on it
L138[11:36:59] <Caitlyn> I don't even think a 350 would run my CPU..
L139[11:37:04] <Forecaster> apparently it's been fine for my 750Ti for a number of years
L140[11:37:35] <Forecaster> and my first-gen i7
L141[11:38:21] <Caitlyn> Oh, seems my cpu alone clocks in at ~180w on full load
L142[11:38:58] <Caitlyn> i7 7740x's clock in at ~80.. lol
L143[11:40:12] <Forecaster> :P
L144[11:40:17] <Forecaster> I just ordered a Corsair VS650 V3
L145[11:43:39] <Forecaster> I have an i7-4790K according to the stats
L146[11:47:10] <Forecaster> which is at 88 W according to the spec sheet
L147[11:52:13] *** Guest49548 is now known as payonel
L148[11:52:23] zsh sets mode: +o on payonel
L149[11:52:51] <payonel> Soni: you were asking about tmpfs on ram instead of disk. i have a few minutes to discuss
L150[11:54:19] <payonel> Izaya: you asked me a month ago (i see a notification from michibot) about custom devfs nodes. yes - it's not super super simple api, but i tried to make it extendable. what do you want the file to do?
L151[11:54:59] <Lizzy> hmm, just ran my hardware through one of those psu calculator thingys, and it's recommending a psu wattach of 745W, which my current 650W unit isn't going to support...
L152[11:56:47] <Forecaster> :O
L153[11:57:11] <Lizzy> so my issues with my vega were most likely due to power fluctuations
L154[11:57:31] <Lizzy> though it is weird how soemtimes it'd crash on the desktop, sometimes in game and sometimes it'd work fine
L155[11:57:31] <Forecaster> I'm just hoping now that I can avoid recording too much until the new psu arrives
L156[11:58:12] <Forecaster> though I've streamed for several hours and it was fine
L157[11:58:43] <Lizzy> hmm, even though it's not in use, if i were to take the 980 out of my system (mainly used for passing through to a winodws vm whenever that wanted to not crash) it takes the recommended wattage down to 580W
L158[11:59:56] <Lizzy> sod it, i'm buying a 850w psu
L159[12:00:51] <Forecaster> I'll have to get that the next time I upgrade probably
L160[12:01:04] <Forecaster> for now 650 is a significant upgrade that is sufficient
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L162[12:02:14] <Inari> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309529094452936705/641429926100205581/75635949_589108048498426_3597418367511691264_o.png?width=724&height=702
L163[12:02:46] <Caitlyn> When I upgraded last I just grabed a 1kW
L164[12:03:21] <Forecaster> don't have the funds to just do that for no reason :P
L165[12:04:26] <Lizzy> i think a 1kw would be overkill for me and may also be a bit too large for the Home theater case my pc is currently in
L166[12:04:43] <Forecaster> %tonk
L167[12:04:43] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forecaster, you were not able to beat Caitlyn's record of 2 hours and 7 seconds this time. 1 hour, 33 minutes and 46 seconds were wasted! Missed by 26 minutes and 20 seconds!
L168[12:04:53] <Forecaster> Aw
L169[12:20:54] <BohemianHacks> %tonk
L170[12:20:54] <MichiBot> I'm sorry BohemianHacks, you were not able to beat Caitlyn's record of 2 hours and 7 seconds this time. 16 minutes and 10 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 43 minutes and 56 seconds!
L171[12:21:36] <BohemianHacks> Thats what I get for not scrolling properly
L172[12:23:15] <Caitlyn> ._.
L173[12:24:44] <FeherNeoH> @Forecaster I switched from 285W to 600W when I got a graphics card for my rig
L174[12:25:04] <Corded> * <BohemianHacks> flexes in intel graphics
L175[12:26:00] <FeherNeoH> > intel graphics
L176[12:26:21] <FeherNeoH> what's that? alternative name for software rendering?
L177[12:27:04] <BohemianHacks> its HD bro
L178[12:27:14] <BohemianHacks> straight in the name
L179[12:27:20] <BohemianHacks> Intel HD Graphics
L180[12:28:12] <BohemianHacks> at least my 13 inch laptop is 3200x1800
L181[12:28:24] <BohemianHacks> its honestly a confusing and amazing mix of technology
L182[12:30:36] <FeherNeoH> Dunno, anything below Vega 11 isn't integrated graphics but software rendering
L183[12:30:52] <FeherNeoH> (okay, iHD 4600 was actually great)
L184[12:39:45] <Inari> %inv add the physicists
L185[12:39:45] * MichiBot summons 'the physicists' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L186[12:40:20] <Forecaster> %sip
L187[12:40:20] <MichiBot> You drink a shining unobtanium potion (New!). Forecaster gains the ability to talk to horses for 59 seconds.
L188[12:40:48] <Forecaster> as far as I'm aware there are no horses nearby
L189[12:43:04] <Caitlyn> Neigh
L190[12:43:36] <Forecaster> did you know corded custom avatars are borked again?
L191[12:43:46] <Forecaster> the letter ones are working though
L192[12:57:03] <Caitlyn> Are they?
L193[12:57:06] <Caitlyn> Are you sure?
L194[12:57:11] *** Caitlyn is now known as Mimiru
L195[12:57:21] <Mimiru> I mean.. it's possible, but seems unlikely
L196[12:57:24] <AmandaC> %inv list
L197[12:57:24] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Here's my inventory: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/inventory
L198[12:57:46] <Mimiru> Hmm
L199[12:57:49] <Mimiru> Test
L200[12:57:53] <Mimiru> Neato.
L201[12:58:02] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot 46 copies of The Jerk on betamax
L202[12:58:03] * MichiBot accepts 46 copies of The Jerk on betamax and adds it to her inventory
L203[12:58:52] <Mimiru> https://caitlynmainer.com/discord/yuri/generateavatar.php?nick=Mimiru
L204[12:58:55] <Mimiru> Neat.
L205[13:00:20] <Elfi> I'm getting a 500
L206[13:00:27] <asie> doesn't work for me either
L207[13:00:44] <Elfi> Wait, what happened to the inventory? D:
L208[13:01:11] <Inari> RIP
L209[13:01:18] <Inari> %blame Forecaster
L210[13:01:18] * MichiBot blames Forecaster for bridge fees
L211[13:01:20] <Elfi> %inv add no tea
L212[13:01:21] * MichiBot summons 'no tea' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L213[13:01:29] <Elfi> Obligatory
L214[13:03:40] <Inari> Good news! I redsicovered a song I haven't listened to in ages!
L215[13:03:41] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UubKYqEy3s
L216[13:03:44] <MichiBot> 【東方ヴォーカルPV】WARNING×WARNING×WARNING【暁Records公式】 | length: 4m 31s | Likes: 12,249 Dislikes: 170 Views: 689,092 | by 暁Records | Published On 25/12/2017
L217[13:08:47] <Inari> Elfi: So are raisins really the favourite fairy food?
L218[13:10:32] <Mimiru> Ah.. Imagick is failing
L219[13:11:26] <Elfi> No way1
L220[13:11:36] <Elfi> Our favourite food is macaroons.
L221[13:11:39] <Elfi> Or macarons.
L222[13:11:43] <Elfi> Anything with sugar, we aren't picky
L223[13:11:45] * Elfi nom.
L224[13:12:39] <Inari> I see
L225[13:12:43] <Inari> Guess this site lied to me then
L226[13:13:19] <Mimiru> bah.. wtf
L227[13:13:30] <Mimiru> this is the headache of having 4 damn PHP installs on a server..
L228[13:13:36] <Inari> :joy:
L229[13:15:11] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L230[13:15:11] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with grandma's glass eyeball. 1 health gained!
L231[13:15:14] <Inari> Ew
L232[13:15:38] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot a vegan pasta maker
L233[13:15:38] * MichiBot accepts the vegan pasta maker and adds it to her inventory
L234[13:17:54] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L235[13:17:55] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Caitlyn's record of 2 hours and 7 seconds this time. 57 minutes were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 3 minutes and 6 seconds!
L236[13:18:06] <Mimiru> Avatars might work now?
L237[13:18:08] <Mimiru> who knows.
L238[13:18:10] <Mimiru> Also ffs.
L239[13:18:55] <Forecaster> woo avatatatars
L240[13:20:48] <AmandaC> Um... Sihoban... That's not where you should be sitting... https://nc.ddna.co/s/74P8xJZE9bZ8zY2
L241[13:25:17] <Forecaster> godammit...
L242[13:25:38] <Forecaster> any video converter doesn't work anymore because "WMVCore.dll" is missing...
L243[13:25:47] <Forecaster> :|
L244[13:26:54] <Elfi> Do you have Windows N?
L245[13:27:01] <Forecaster> yes
L246[13:27:08] <Elfi> Time to redownload the media feature pack
L247[13:27:29] <Forecaster> thing is I have... but it hasn't worked... :|
L248[13:27:43] <Elfi> Really? For the current release and everything?
L249[13:27:46] <Soni> payonel: yeah, I asked about kernel-less, pure-java in-game tmpfs, counting towards memory cap. what's wrong with that?
L250[13:28:20] <Soni> modern tmpfs is ram+swap anyway
L251[13:28:21] <Forecaster> I did one first, rebooted, didn't work, then I found an update of some kind that I installed, it hasn't worked, but I haven't rebooted yet
L252[13:28:47] <Elfi> Can you tell me which build of Windows you're on?
L253[13:29:02] <Soni> (i.e. it's already not using disk)
L254[13:29:23] <Soni> (please don't use real disk for tmpfs)
L255[13:29:30] <FeherNeoH> if you don't have WMVcore, go to settings->apps->optional features and add it from there
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L257[13:30:16] <FeherNeoH> WMFP downloaded from other sources doesn't tend to work on recent builds
L258[13:31:01] <Forecaster> Version 1903 (OS Build 18362.418)
L259[13:31:33] <FeherNeoH> yeah, you need WMFP from the settings app then
L260[13:31:48] <Elfi> And you tried the version from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/mediafeaturepack?
L261[13:32:26] <Forecaster> not sure, the download page I ended up on was a bit different
L262[13:32:29] <FeherNeoH> Elfi: tried those before, didn't work
L263[13:32:41] <Elfi> I've had success with them on my version of Win10N.
L264[13:32:49] <Forecaster> the installed I got is named `Microsoft-Windows-MediaFeaturePack-OOB-Package_x64`
L265[13:32:51] <FeherNeoH> I had to use the one from the settings app to make Wallpaper Engine and media apps work
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L267[13:33:06] <Elfi> Okay, yeah, grab the 1903 version from the page I linked instead
L268[13:33:43] <Elfi> The OOB feature pack was released back in 2016, so it's quite dated by now
L269[13:33:51] <Forecaster> ah
L270[13:34:28] <Forecaster> the "update" I tried next is named `KB3099229_x64.msu`
L271[13:35:09] <Elfi> That was for version 1511
L272[13:35:12] <Forecaster> maybe I'll get this working before D&D starts in 25 minutes :P
L273[13:35:12] <Elfi> So also quite dated
L274[13:35:52] <Forecaster> I need AVC to rip secondary audio tracks from my recordings :|
L275[13:42:47] <Lazar Kovacevic> OC for version 1.15 or 1.14?\
L276[13:43:08] <Forecaster> not yet
L277[13:46:25] <Lazar Kovacevic> Any idea when?
L278[13:49:20] <Forecaster> nope, sorry
L279[14:01:49] <Forecaster> %sip
L280[14:01:49] <MichiBot> You drink a sour adamantium potion (New!). Forecaster knows the exact location of a particular molecule of oxygen for 3 hours.
L281[14:02:04] <Forecaster> that's gonna be distracting
L282[14:03:19] <CompanionCube> %drink
L283[14:03:19] <MichiBot> You drink a fragrant blue potion (New!). CompanionCube turns into a sloth girl for 3 hours.
L284[14:03:25] <CompanionCube> :(
L285[14:03:43] <Forecaster> gonna be a loooong 3 hours xD
L286[14:21:45] <Forecaster> yay it works now
L287[14:21:53] <Forecaster> stupid outdated links
L288[14:21:58] <Forecaster> thanks Elfi
L289[14:22:09] <Corded> * <Forecaster> gives some sugary treats
L290[14:40:07] <Mimiru> It's nice not seeing a ton of (NULL) times for items..
L291[14:40:45] <Lizzy> %inv add (NULL)
L292[14:40:46] * MichiBot summons '(NULL)' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
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L294[14:41:44] <Forecaster> Lizzy do you want MichiBot to hunt you down
L295[14:42:11] <Lizzy> it's payback for the potions that turn me into stuff
L296[14:44:54] <Forecaster> %sip mutable solarium potion
L297[14:44:54] <MichiBot> Forecaster turns into a frog until Sozin's Comet returns.
L298[14:45:09] <Forecaster> ribbit...
L299[14:45:48] <Izaya> payonel: ended up working it out - got a tape drive devfs node, but it was so slow it was nigh useless
L300[14:49:24] <Soni> https://twitter.com/SoniEx2/status/1192165715610083331
L301[14:49:24] <MichiBot> Wed Nov 06 13:43:50 CST 2019 @SoniEx2: cis women are allowed to have phalloplasty too, change my mind
L302[14:52:00] <AdorableCatgirl> ok
L303[14:52:21] <CompanionCube> well that's a random topic and i'm wondering if it'd be wrong to say 'PG13' not
L304[14:54:52] <Soni> hm. depends on your views on sex ed I guess.
L305[15:05:17] <Forecaster> CompanionCube I agree that's quite random
L306[15:07:10] <Forecaster> aw yiss NMSB update
L307[15:07:14] <Forecaster> maybe now It'll run again
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L309[15:28:22] <bauen1> is there a library that allows you to access lua values / function calls over a network connection (using lua sockets, not OC) ?
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L311[15:34:00] <payonel> Soni: when i said "kernel" in the ticket, was refering to the host kernel
L312[15:34:52] <payonel> if we put a filesystem on ram, that's allocating more memory for the pc instance than we are currently requiring (see memory capacity of a oc instance)
L313[15:37:13] <payonel> Soni: you have to keep in mind, we choose implementation to reduce load on the host. performance comes second to that. sometimes we can do both, sometimes we prefer to be nice to the host at the cost of some perf
L314[15:37:36] <payonel> putting a virtual fs on a byte array, essentially ram, is increasing the memory cost of oc on the host
L315[15:38:08] <payonel> if a host kernel wants to treat io in ram, ala file cache, that's up to the kernel. but if we allocate a byte array for it, we're not letting the host balance that load
L316[15:38:10] <Izaya> bauen1: I have RPC, doesn't support values directly though
L317[15:39:27] <Vexatos> I mean you can write a struct like that in like five minutes provided you have a library for tcp connections
L318[15:39:49] <Vexatos> it might as well be a metatabled wrapped for the socket
L319[15:46:31] <polyzium> I'm doing a crazy thing similar to asie's lunatic
L320[15:46:43] <polyzium> but I bet I'm going to fail at it miserable lmao
L321[15:52:06] <asie> what are you doing?
L322[15:59:14] <polyzium> asie: some guy wrote a GameBoy emulator in Lua, trying to port it to OC
L323[16:00:14] <asie> oh that
L324[16:00:23] <polyzium> Also I forgot that just the nickname triggers someone on IRC
L325[16:00:29] <polyzium> oh well I should spend more time on it
L326[16:01:05] <Izaya> so a modified Z80...
L327[16:01:07] <Izaya> Interesting.
L328[16:01:32] <polyzium> Z80+8086
L329[16:01:33] <polyzium> weird mix
L330[16:01:55] <Izaya> the less good of two generations of processor architectures :p
L331[16:02:55] <polyzium> Does Computronics have a pulse wave? Not square wave with 50% duty cycle
L332[16:03:10] <polyzium> I tried to get it through LFSR but it's very unpredictable
L333[16:03:35] <polyzium> if you get the values just right you may get a 25% duty cycle pulse wave
L334[16:03:37] <Vexatos> what kind of pulse
L335[16:03:47] <Vexatos> if it isn't square
L336[16:03:53] <Izaya> https://static.cybre.space/media_attachments/files/006/316/367/original/60d4bb46ba5c65df.png
L337[16:03:58] <polyzium> 15, 25, 50, 75% duty cycle pulse wave
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L339[16:04:42] <Vexatos> ADSR with shorter A?
L340[16:04:54] <Vexatos> err shorter S
L341[16:05:26] <Vexatos> nah that'd force you to fire a new wave every pulse
L342[16:05:41] <polyzium> Why do we need ADSR for duty cycles
L343[16:06:00] <Vexatos> honestly I am not sure of a good way to actually do pulse waves
L344[16:06:23] <polyzium> LFSR may do the trick if you do some frequency math because this thing is unpredictable
L345[16:06:27] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7rFrc5kqOk i need an otter
L346[16:06:27] <MichiBot> カワウソコタローとハナ 父ちゃんのブラッシングでとろける Otter Kotaro&Hana So Comfy | length: 4m 3s | Likes: 165,262 Dislikes: 2,452 Views: 7,865,247 | by KOTSUMET | Published On 23/10/2019
L347[16:07:34] <Vexatos> would amplitude modulation work?
L348[16:07:36] <Soni> payonel: more than having virtual RAM?
L349[16:07:48] <Soni> payonel: I literally proposed using virtual RAM for tmpfs
L350[16:07:59] <Soni> also: swap
L351[16:08:14] <polyzium> AM may work if you use two square waves with different phases
L352[16:08:20] <Soni> so yeah, if you need tmpfs just craft more RAM
L353[16:08:27] <Soni> payonel: is that proposal unreasonable?
L354[16:10:48] <Vexatos> polyzium, like so https://quantum-chemistry.is-pretty.cool/52uuwkk.jpg
L355[16:10:53] <Vexatos> oh you already had the same idea
L356[16:11:13] <polyzium> Yea
L357[16:11:53] <payonel> Soni: interesting proposal. note that if we put a tmpfs in the vm ram space, there would be no persistance even between reboots. currently, tmpfs persists between reboots. so that would be a breaking change. i'll have to pass, but i appreciate the suggestion
L358[16:12:41] <Soni> payonel: uh, why not persist it just like tables etc?
L359[16:12:58] <Soni> payonel: or, wait, tmpfs doesn't get cleared at vm reboot?
L360[16:13:05] <payonel> tables don't persist between reboots either
L361[16:13:07] <payonel> no it doesn't
L362[16:13:09] <Izaya> if you do a warm reboot, tmpfs keeps its data
L363[16:13:12] <Izaya> I exploit this heavily
L364[16:13:17] <Soni> payonel: THE DOCS SAY IT DOES
L365[16:13:32] <payonel> :)
L366[16:13:37] <Soni> then again, tmpfs is completely undocumented
L367[16:13:40] <Izaya> rule 1 of OC: the docs lie
L368[16:13:42] <Izaya> fix em
L369[16:13:55] <Soni> Izaya: fix the implementation
L370[16:14:00] <Soni> you're relying on a bug
L371[16:14:07] <polyzium> Rule 2: speed the damn thing up and use LuaJIT already! xd
L372[16:14:11] <Izaya> the implementation is fine and intended
L373[16:14:18] <Soni> I disagree
L374[16:14:20] <Izaya> that's why there's a difference between a warm and cold reboot
L375[16:14:28] <Vexatos> polyzium, I'd gladly accept any port of LuaJIT you happen to produce
L376[16:14:47] <Izaya> at any rate
L377[16:14:50] <Soni> altho there's no particular reason why VM RAM (well VM state entirely) can't be persisted across soft reboots
L378[16:14:52] <Izaya> removing that functionality would be less fun
L379[16:14:58] <payonel> Soni: the default is to not clear it: eraseTmpOnReboot: false
L380[16:15:03] <polyzium> Vexatos: Hmm I may actually try...
L381[16:15:07] <polyzium> But nto for today
L382[16:15:10] <Vexatos> the number of times over the past months where I was writing in Lua 5.1 and like "why doesn't this work? oh right it wasn't added yet" it uncountable
L383[16:15:11] <Soni> (aka pop the call stack and re-run init)
L384[16:15:11] <Izaya> because the point of a reboot is to clear the environment? ?.?
L385[16:15:20] <Vexatos> lua 5.1 is soo bad
L386[16:15:27] <polyzium> 15 minutes and I'm gone to bed
L387[16:15:33] <Soni> Izaya: but it's supposed to be a "soft reboot"
L388[16:15:39] <Soni> on most systems those don't mess with RAM
L389[16:15:45] <Izaya> fair point
L390[16:15:54] <Soni> (e.g. sega genesis soft reset doesn't clear RAM)
L391[16:16:00] <Izaya> then, at a guess, because that's a pain in the ass and nobody wants to do the work to make that happen
L392[16:16:02] <Izaya> or even better
L393[16:16:07] <Izaya> it can be done in software already if you want it
L394[16:17:10] <Izaya> You could set it up so shutdown just kills the coroutine and tells the BIOS to re-run init, if you wanted
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L396[16:25:12] <Soni> payonel: anyway, thoughts?
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L398[16:28:48] <payonel> the lua machine is restarted on a reboot, so storing a tmpfs in the vm ram is not an option unless we always clear the tmpfs contents
L399[16:28:59] <payonel> so, no
L400[16:30:16] <Soni> payonel: I mean thoughts on not restarting the lua machine but just nuking its call stack and reinitting
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L402[16:31:13] <Izaya> again it can be done from inside the environment if that's what you want
L403[16:31:19] <payonel> that's a more significant change, and not compatible with other architectures
L404[16:31:23] <payonel> it breaks the api of "restart"
L405[16:32:31] <Soni> payonel: it adds a new "soft reset" API
L406[16:32:47] <Soni> and is compatible with other architectures, as they may wanna keep RAM around during soft reset
L407[16:33:00] <Soni> e.g. 6502 would just assert reset without clearing RAM
L408[16:33:37] <payonel> new restart api just for a faster tmpfs? that's okay :)
L409[16:33:56] <Soni> this could also be exposed in the computer case GUI as a soft reset button
L410[16:34:20] <payonel> so new gui, new api, new filesystem class, just for faster tmpfs?
L411[16:34:21] <payonel> :)
L412[16:34:26] <payonel> are you not seeing the cost?
L413[16:34:31] <Soni> no, not just for faster tmpfs
L414[16:34:42] <Soni> well, new filesystem class is just for faster tmpfs
L415[16:34:56] <Soni> but the other stuff would benefit accurate 6502 emulators
L416[16:35:17] <polyzium> Alright boys and girls
L417[16:35:26] <polyzium> It's 1:35 am and I'm heading to sleep
L418[16:35:31] <polyzium> talk to you tomorrow, cya
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L420[16:35:50] <payonel> sony: do you have a program emulating 6502 in OC that is currently blocked by this issue?
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L422[16:36:49] <Soni> no and I think you'd hit me in the head if I tried to do something like a sega genesis emulator for OC
L423[16:37:14] <payonel> i wouldn't :)
L424[16:41:07] <Forecaster> https://imgur.com/gallery/QFFv65i
L425[16:45:44] <Soni> then again the 20tps would make it kinda shitty
L426[16:46:06] <Soni> (then again... there are ways to get around that)
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L429[17:21:29] <AmandaC> %8ball dangerous?
L430[17:21:29] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Signs point to yes
L431[17:30:15] <Forecaster> %8ball risky?
L432[17:30:15] <MichiBot> Forecaster: I don't think that's a question...
L433[17:30:31] <Forecaster> no?
L434[17:30:33] <Forecaster> okay fine
L435[17:31:16] <Forecaster> that length limit is a tad strict perhaps
L436[17:35:50] <AmandaC> payonel: halp I tanked the market for easily sellable materials.
L437[17:44:33] <Forecaster> Un-tank it :D
L438[17:48:03] <AmandaC> But how?
L439[17:48:40] <CompanionCube> hoard and withold stock until the price rises high enough?
L440[17:50:53] <The_Stargazer> what are the hex colour ranges for t2 and t3 gpus?
L441[17:51:02] <The_Stargazer> t1 is either black or white iirc
L442[17:51:28] <Mimiru> Damn it Izaya... use black on black so my spoiler code works! lmao..
L443[17:52:29] <The_Stargazer> does colour depth refer to the number of bits?
L444[17:53:37] <AmandaC> Looks like the gamble didn't work out: https://nc.ddna.co/s/wwDfdtFKKEH67DX
L445[17:53:40] <CompanionCube> ....hm, now i wonder if anyone's formed a crtel in eve online
L446[17:53:43] <CompanionCube> *cartel
L447[17:54:08] <AmandaC> ( I Left X4 runing while I got a shower to let the ships do their thang while I was riding along one of those ships heading somewhere )
L448[18:02:28] <The_Stargazer> `Maximum color depth: 1/4/8.`
L449[18:02:28] <The_Stargazer> is this in bits?
L450[18:13:54] <AmandaC> yes
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L452[18:32:28] <Mimiru> %tonk
L453[18:32:29] <MichiBot> By my throth! Mimiru! You beat Caitlyn's previous record of 2 hours and 7 seconds (By 3 hours, 14 minutes and 26 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L454[18:32:30] <MichiBot> Mimiru's new record is 5 hours, 14 minutes and 33 seconds! Mimiru also gained 0.00972 (0.00324 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L455[18:33:03] <Mimiru> %tonkleaders
L456[18:33:03] <MichiBot> Mimiru: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L457[18:33:18] <Mimiru> Shit.
L458[18:33:39] <Mimiru> Caitlyn is #19.. Mimiru is #9.
L459[18:34:13] <The_Stargazer> woo
L460[18:34:14] <The_Stargazer> finally got the digital miner part of the mekanism part of my program to control things that connect to adapt(o|e)rs
L461[18:34:26] <AmandaC> adapters
L462[18:34:37] <AmandaC> adoptors would be devices who take in orphans
L463[18:35:05] <The_Stargazer> it only took like 5 hours
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L469[19:39:51] <Ariri> %logs
L470[19:39:51] <MichiBot> Ariri: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
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L474[21:32:50] <AmandaC> %8ball be responsible and tell her she can't win?
L475[21:32:51] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Signs point to yes
L476[21:32:54] <AmandaC> :(
L477[21:33:22] <AmandaC> AmandaC: The sleep goddesses will not accept a disruption, best not to tempt them with smitage.
L478[21:34:58] <AmandaC> I think it's time I buy the second 16G memory card for my gaming rig.
L479[21:35:21] <AmandaC> Riding the highway in X4 is not ideal after a couple of jumpgates
L480[22:03:12] <AmandaC> Now: Sleep. night nerds.
L481[22:47:03] <Ariri> http://tinyurl.com/yxu3sq8m
L482[22:47:07] <Ariri> oops
L483[22:47:28] <Ariri> uhhh
L484[22:56:51] * Lymia owos
L485[22:56:54] <Lymia> %tonk
L486[22:56:55] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lymia, you were not able to beat Mimiru's record of 5 hours, 14 minutes and 33 seconds this time. 4 hours, 24 minutes and 26 seconds were wasted! Missed by 50 minutes and 7 seconds!
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L489[23:44:58] <bpm140> %tonk
L490[23:44:58] <MichiBot> I'm sorry bpm140, you were not able to beat Mimiru's record of 5 hours, 14 minutes and 33 seconds this time. 48 minutes and 3 seconds were wasted! Missed by 4 hours, 26 minutes and 30 seconds!
L491[23:45:11] <bpm140> I dead
L492[23:45:14] <bpm140> %teleport
L493[23:45:21] <bpm140> %drink
L494[23:45:22] <MichiBot> You drink a warpy rubium potion (New!). bpm140's clothes turn the color of sapphire for 3 hours.
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