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L1[00:00:19]
<Ariri> any
anime/manga recommendations? Esp ones with catgirls :3
L2[00:05:05]
<Mark42XLII>
Anyone willing to answer a very stupid question about
``load()``?
L3[00:05:34] <Izaya> we'll have had dumber,
I guarantee it
L4[00:05:36]
<Mark42XLII>
At this point I already got to brain meltdown
L5[00:10:44]
<Mimiru>
%tell AmandaC I.. I want that kitty... lol
L6[00:10:45] <MichiBot> Mimiru: AmandaC will
be notified of this message when next seen.
L7[01:05:20]
<Forecaster>
%tonk
L8[01:05:22] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle!
Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 2 hours, 47
minutes and 48 seconds (By 1 hour, 36 minutes and 47 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L9[01:05:23] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 4 hours, 24 minutes and 35 seconds! Forecaster also
gained 0.00483 (0.00161 x 3) tonk points for stealing the
tonk.
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L12[01:46:04] <Inari> Nep
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L15[02:00:33] <Inari> AmandaC: Haha
L16[02:00:45] <Inari> AmandaC: You and your
odd fish dislike
L17[02:01:41]
<The_Stargazer> random question
L18[02:01:47]
<The_Stargazer> are space stations
geostationary or low earth orbit?
L19[02:02:17] <Inari> I mean
L20[02:02:22] <Inari> Think about that for
a moment :P
L21[02:02:29] <Inari> Does the ISS move in
the sky?
L22[02:03:09]
<The_Stargazer> Does it?
L23[02:03:21] <Inari> It does
L25[02:03:34]
<The_Stargazer> So, low earth then?
L26[02:03:38] <Inari> I thought that was
common knowledge
L27[02:03:50] <Inari> iI think so
L28[02:05:29]
<The_Stargazer> Oh yeah
L29[02:05:37]
<The_Stargazer> IIRC there was an xkcd
about advertising
L30[02:05:40]
<The_Stargazer> and geolinks
L31[02:05:44]
<The_Stargazer> and it was low earth, not
geostationary
L32[02:05:54]
<The_Stargazer> i should read more
xkcd
L33[02:06:14]
<The_Stargazer> even made a program to
download as many images from xkcd as it could
L34[02:06:17]
<The_Stargazer> using it's JSON API
L35[02:06:26]
<The_Stargazer> and luvit's coro-http /
coro-fs
L36[02:07:11] <Inari> Audible ffs
L37[02:07:18]
<The_Stargazer> what?
L38[02:07:22] <Inari> It wont work
L40[02:07:27]
<The_Stargazer> Oh
L41[02:07:45] <Inari> Ah, for ~some~ Reason
I had to pause the player and then restart it
L42[02:07:47] <Inari> w/e
L43[02:08:03]
<The_Stargazer> the side panel on the dell
dimension 3000 is impossible to get off
L44[02:08:13]
<The_Stargazer> i'm beginning to wonder if
it's even able to come off
L45[02:08:50]
<The_Stargazer> but once I get the case
panel off I can just add more drives and use it as an OMV NAS
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L47[02:48:10] <Izaya> took me like 3 weeks
to figure out you meant OpenMediaVault
L48[02:48:13] <Izaya> carry on I
guess
L49[02:51:12]
<The_Stargazer> haha
L50[02:52:03]
<Forecaster>
I knew all along
L51[02:52:09]
<Forecaster>
(That's a lie)
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L56[05:40:47]
<The_Stargazer> hmm
L57[05:40:54]
<The_Stargazer> my program isn't outputting
anything :/
L58[05:41:16]
<The_Stargazer> it's supposed to output
debug info when it opens the logfile
L59[05:42:12]
<Forecaster>
then you've done something wrong
L60[05:42:31]
<The_Stargazer> want me to pastebin so you
can take a look? I can't see any problems :/
L61[05:42:54]
<Forecaster>
can't hurt
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L64[05:47:07]
<The_Stargazer> ok it makes the `addClient`
thread
L65[05:47:26]
<The_Stargazer> but doesn't open the
log
L66[05:50:42]
<Forecaster>
I can't see anything obvious
L67[05:50:47]
<Forecaster>
use prints to debug
L68[05:50:59]
<The_Stargazer> ? I do that
L69[05:52:07] <Izaya> if you have errors,
evidently you don't do enough of it
L70[05:52:18]
<The_Stargazer> doesn't print an
error
L71[05:52:30]
<The_Stargazer> I debug print on every
operation
L72[05:52:51]
<The_Stargazer> open logfile? print. create
thread? print. read from socket? print.
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L74[05:59:59]
<The_Stargazer> ok so it doesnt even get to
sending the message
L75[06:06:13]
<The_Stargazer> `attempt to index a nil
value (field '?')` tf does this mean
L76[06:06:17]
<The_Stargazer> i dont use `?`
anywhere
L77[06:06:47] <Izaya> most likely that
you're trying to index by nil
L78[06:06:56] <fingercomp> you define
`remsec_data` on line 65
L79[06:07:09] <fingercomp> but you access
it earlier, in all logging functions
L80[06:07:25]
<The_Stargazer> but I don't call it before
defining
L81[06:07:28]
<The_Stargazer> so it should be fine?
L82[06:07:43] <fingercomp> Lua is not
JavaScript
L83[06:08:54] <fingercomp> I mean that Lua
doesn't hoist variables
L84[06:09:00]
<The_Stargazer> the function doesnt error
when I define it
L85[06:09:06] <Vexatos> well yea
L86[06:09:16] <fingercomp> a function only
captures variables defined before it
L87[06:09:18] <Vexatos> because Lua doesn't
care what's inside the function until it's called
L88[06:09:30]
<The_Stargazer> if you redefine it
L89[06:09:37]
<The_Stargazer> will it capture variables
it previously didnt?
L90[06:09:47]
<The_Stargazer> (if you move it)
L91[06:09:51] <Vexatos> you can just define
the variable before the function you know
L92[06:09:59] <fingercomp> if you put a
definition earlier, before you define the function body, then it
will work
L93[06:10:05]
<The_Stargazer> i'm trying that in the lua
interpreter
L94[06:10:10]
<The_Stargazer> same error
L95[06:10:24] <Vexatos> just put the
variable at the start of the program
L96[06:10:33]
<The_Stargazer> I can't
L97[06:10:37] <Vexatos> you can
L98[06:10:39] <fingercomp> you don't have
to set the variable to anything
L99[06:10:44]
<The_Stargazer> it uses a table that is not
available at the start.
L100[06:10:48] <fingercomp> just put
`local remsec_data` before the function definition
L101[06:10:49] <Vexatos> then
L102[06:10:53] <Vexatos> make it available
at the start
L103[06:10:54] <Vexatos> ^ that
L104[06:10:58] <Vexatos> literally move
line 65
L105[06:10:59] <Vexatos> to the
start
L106[06:11:03] <Vexatos> that's all you
need
L107[06:11:27]
<The_Stargazer> it has to be after line
36
L109[06:11:52]
<The_Stargazer> 32 to 36
L110[06:11:52] <Vexatos> how is that
related to defining an empty table
L112[06:12:19]
<The_Stargazer> if I define the empty
table, will it work if I then fill it later?
L113[06:12:25] <Vexatos> ...yes?
L114[06:12:28] <Vexatos> of course?
L115[06:12:29]
<The_Stargazer> oh
L116[06:12:36]
<The_Stargazer> but then
L117[06:12:39]
<Forecaster>
no it will consume your soul
L118[06:12:39] <Vexatos> the function only
cares about the variable existing
L119[06:12:39]
<The_Stargazer> why is it still
erroring
L120[06:12:40] <Vexatos> not its
contents
L121[06:12:42]
<The_Stargazer> in the interpreter
L122[06:13:00] <Vexatos> the interpreter
does not like you using "local" which I assume you are
doing
L123[06:13:07]
<The_Stargazer> Nope
L124[06:13:24]
<The_Stargazer> nothing's local
L125[06:13:29] <Vexatos> you define the
variable, THEN the function, then you can fill in the table
L126[06:13:33] <Vexatos> then you can call
the function
L128[06:13:48]
<The_Stargazer> The table is filled
L129[06:13:51]
<The_Stargazer> But it still errors
L130[06:14:04] <Vexatos> uh
L131[06:14:07] <Vexatos> what is
send
L132[06:14:18] <Vexatos> oh
L133[06:15:02] <Vexatos> you sure you
defined the function after you made the table :I
L134[06:15:21] <Vexatos> and the clients
table exists too, and all the other stuff in send
L135[06:15:35] <SquidDev> clients[client]
is probably nil
L136[06:15:43] <fingercomp> `clients` is
`nil`
L137[06:15:44]
<The_Stargazer> yes, it is. I just
realized.
L138[06:16:16]
<The_Stargazer> what.
L139[06:16:18]
<The_Stargazer> it won't fill..
L141[06:16:48] <Vexatos> >GERTI
L142[06:16:50] <Vexatos> I'm out
L143[06:16:57]
<The_Stargazer> ?
L144[06:17:14] <fingercomp> `openSocket`
probably returns `nil`
L145[06:17:27]
<The_Stargazer> yep.
L146[06:17:33]
<The_Stargazer> (which, it shouldn't)
L147[06:17:46] <Izaya> (what a
surprise)
L148[06:19:45] <Izaya> do consider
checking this with a print()
L149[06:19:57]
<The_Stargazer> im stupid
L150[06:20:05]
<The_Stargazer> im tryna open a socket to
myself
L151[06:21:01] *
Lizzy slow claps
L152[06:23:06]
<The_Stargazer> okay `send()` works
now
L153[06:23:10]
<The_Stargazer> in the interpreter
L154[06:23:14]
<The_Stargazer> now, to test it in the
program
L155[06:25:28]
<The_Stargazer> NOPE.
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L162[06:51:07]
<Forecaster>
huh
L163[06:51:15]
<Forecaster>
I can't believe my Runescape account still exists
L164[06:54:15] <Vexatos> your run escape
account?
L165[06:54:29]
<Forecaster>
yes
L167[06:55:16] <MichiBot>
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L168[06:55:36]
<Forecaster>
someone wrote letters to a court in some kind of marker...
L169[06:55:37]
<Forecaster>
by hand
L170[06:55:56]
<Forecaster>
about being banned/muted in Runescape
L171[07:09:54] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L172[07:09:54] <MichiBot> Voldemort!
CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 4 hours, 24
minutes and 35 seconds (By 1 hour, 39 minutes and 57 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L173[07:09:55] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 6 hours, 4 minutes and 33 seconds! CompanionCube also
gained 0.00835 (0.00167 x 5) tonk points for stealing the
tonk.
L174[07:44:49]
<The_Stargazer> bug testing is fun
L175[07:44:56]
<The_Stargazer> (when it's not your own
code)
L176[07:45:56]
<NotBob>
obv
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L178[08:25:57]
<Soular>
hello guys
L179[08:26:13]
<The_Stargazer> Hi.
L180[08:26:49]
<Soular> Can
someone help? Seems like OC makes a lot of lag, heres profiling
log:
L182[08:27:20]
<Soular>
These 4 threads raise exponentially by time
L183[08:27:51]
<Soular>
100-200 at server start, and 30000-40000 after 1-2 hrs of
uptime
L184[08:29:18] <AmandaC> Those threads are
responsible for running the user's computers, they share the load
of the computers. Someone probably has a lot of them going at once,
and it goes up because they're getting loaded in to run
L185[08:29:28]
<NotBob> how
many computers
L186[08:29:30]
<NotBob> do
you run
L187[08:29:53]
<Soular> I
dont really know how much of them are running
L188[08:30:10]
<Soular> Any
way to know that maybe?
L189[08:30:18]
<Soular>
find out*
L190[08:30:23]
<NotBob> you
can't really fight quantity, OC isn't particaularly laggy
L191[08:30:27]
<NotBob>
well worldedit or idk
L192[08:31:01]
<Soular> May
persistence disabling help?
L193[08:31:16]
<Forecaster>
I doubt it
L194[08:31:30]
<Forecaster>
that just makes the computers restart when loaded if on
L195[08:31:37]
<Forecaster>
instead of continuing from where they were
L196[08:31:49]
<Soular>
thing is, that every world has 20.00 tps
L197[08:31:54]
<Soular> but
overall tps is 2-3
L198[08:39:25] <Lizzy> unless you're on a
dual core system, i'd say something more in-world is causing the
lag (since the main world/server thread is at 16k or so whereas the
OC threads are only at around 4k each
L199[08:58:15]
<Forecaster>
....
L200[08:58:37]
<Forecaster>
I hate how starbound can lag in singleplayer but enemies still get
to move...
L201[08:58:42]
<Forecaster>
-_-
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L204[09:50:05]
<The_Stargazer> I'm back again with Network
Problems!
L205[09:50:05]
<The_Stargazer> If I have "my"
laptop connected to mobile hotspot, and my NAS connected to usb
tethering, will they both be on the same network? The IP of the NAS
is `192.168.42.187`, and I can access it on the phone, but NOT on
the laptop.
L206[09:58:52]
<Forecaster>
what's the laptops ip?
L207[10:00:49]
<The_Stargazer> uh
L208[10:01:03]
<The_Stargazer> 192.168.43.17
L209[10:01:11]
<Forecaster>
then that's why
L210[10:01:27]
<The_Stargazer> How do I make it so the NAS
and laptop can communicate
L211[10:01:28]
<Forecaster>
the 43 needs to be a 42
L212[10:01:32]
<Forecaster>
it's on a different subnet
L213[10:01:41]
<The_Stargazer> how do I change the
subnet
L214[10:01:49]
<Forecaster>
set it's ip address
L215[10:01:52]
<The_Stargazer> how?
L216[10:02:02]
<Forecaster>
Google it.
L217[10:02:10]
<The_Stargazer> should I change the
laptop's subnet or the NAS' subnet?
L218[10:03:54]
<The_Stargazer> do I set a static ip
address @Forecaster? is that what I need to do?
L219[10:05:35] <Izaya> I mean, if you
change the subnet on the device rather than the "router"
you'll no longer be able to talk to the router
L222[10:07:08]
<The_Stargazer> I don't have a router
tho
L223[10:07:15] <Izaya> yes you do
L224[10:07:21]
<The_Stargazer> Well not a proper one
L225[10:07:21] <Lizzy> your phone is the
router in your current setup
L227[10:07:39]
<The_Stargazer> So how do I go about
allowing laptop <-> NAS communication
L228[10:07:46] <Lizzy> try asking
google
L229[10:08:03]
<The_Stargazer> I have
L230[10:08:11] <Lizzy> or, y'know. spend
like $1 or two and just get a short ethernet cable
L231[10:08:55]
<The_Stargazer> well it's like 3 am and I'd
like to get this done soon
L232[10:09:10]
<The_Stargazer> can't exactly pop down to
bunnings at 3 in the morning
L233[10:09:22] <Izaya> pretty sure they're
24h actually
L234[10:09:27]
<The_Stargazer> also: actually $4
L235[10:09:31] <Lizzy> from memory, you've
been having this issue for the past two days or so, and someone did
suggest ethernet in the past
L237[10:10:19] <Izaya> no midnight
woodwork projects for you, then
L238[10:11:00] <Izaya> at any rate
L239[10:11:10] <AmandaC> Izaya: are you
the annoying neighbor who's runnning their lathe at 3am?
L240[10:11:16] <Izaya> AmandaC:
worse
L241[10:11:33] <Izaya> I'm the annoying
neighbor revving the shit out of their bike at 3AM
L242[10:11:41] <AmandaC> scandalous
L243[10:11:53] <Izaya> an ethernet cable
so you can bridge phone -> laptop -> desktop will solve your
subnet problems
L244[10:12:21] <Izaya> I would suggest
enabling IP forwarding on the phone but you seem to already be
doing that, unless NAT works without enabling it.
L245[10:12:32]
<The_Stargazer> ip forwarding?
L246[10:12:40] <Izaya> Also Android would
likely disagree with you doing anything mildly useful.
L247[10:12:47]
<The_Stargazer> also the ethernet cable
thing is a no go anyway, my mother isn't keen on that idea :I
L248[10:13:03]
<The_Stargazer> and of course she wants the
person who gave me the desktop to sort it out
L249[10:13:06] <AmandaC> Then youy're
SOL
L250[10:13:08] <Lizzy> well, then there's
not many other things we can suggest
L251[10:13:18]
<The_Stargazer> (instead of just going to
bunnings and getting a cable)
L252[10:13:25] <Izaya> sysctl -w
net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
L253[10:13:28] <Izaya> on the phone
L254[10:13:32]
<The_Stargazer> uhhh
L255[10:13:34]
<The_Stargazer> where do I input that
L256[10:13:39] <Izaya> a root shell
L257[10:13:40]
<The_Stargazer> does it have to be
rooted?
L258[10:13:40] <Lizzy> Izaya, remember
that not everyone has rooted devices
L259[10:13:52] <Izaya> Lizzy: too many
people don't own their devices
L260[10:13:53]
<The_Stargazer> my mother does not want me
to root her phone at all
L262[10:14:13] <Lizzy> so wait, you're
using your mum's phone?
L263[10:14:25]
<The_Stargazer> yes.
L264[10:14:30]
<The_Stargazer> i don't have a phone.
L265[10:15:02] <AmandaC> TIL middle click
in Starbound is the same as an 'e' press
L266[10:15:12]
<Forecaster>
just connect the NAS to the laptop.
L267[10:15:14] <Izaya> alternative to an
ethernet cable is a wifi card
L268[10:15:21] <Izaya> which will be
several times the cost
L269[10:15:24] <Izaya> so have fun I
guess
L270[10:15:33]
<The_Stargazer> @Forecaster how
L271[10:15:40] <Izaya> you plug it
in
L272[10:15:40]
<Forecaster>
with
L273[10:15:40]
<Forecaster>
a
L274[10:15:41]
<Forecaster>
cable
L275[10:15:44]
<The_Stargazer> i
L276[10:15:45]
<The_Stargazer> dont
L277[10:15:47]
<The_Stargazer> have
L278[10:15:48]
<The_Stargazer> one
L279[10:15:54]
<The_Stargazer> no ethernet cables
here
L280[10:16:02]
<Forecaster>
I guess the NAS is just sitting there magically connected to
something then
L281[10:16:06]
<The_Stargazer> The phone
L282[10:16:11]
<The_Stargazer> It's tethered to the
phone
L283[10:16:14]
<The_Stargazer> via usb tethering
L285[10:16:33]
<The_Stargazer> Oh, and if you want to be
technical a power lead, VGA cable, and keyboard
L286[10:16:45]
<The_Stargazer> >amazon
L287[10:16:45]
<The_Stargazer> I don't have a credit
card
L288[10:16:57] <Izaya> so pay someone to
let you use theirs
L289[10:17:11] <AmandaC> Remember, they're
probably like, 12
L290[10:17:11] <Lizzy> i wasn't suggesting
you _actually_ use amazon, just something that your local tech
store _might_ have
L291[10:17:20]
<The_Stargazer> I've seen those
things
L292[10:17:37]
<The_Stargazer> in warehouse
stationary
L293[10:18:05]
<The_Stargazer> is it possible to change
the NAS' or the laptop's subnet to 42 (laptop) or 43 (NAS)?
L294[10:18:12] <Lizzy> you can
L295[10:18:18]
<The_Stargazer> Great
L296[10:18:21] <Izaya> the phone has them
separated presumably intentionally
L297[10:18:22] <Lizzy> but it wont work
how you want it to
L298[10:18:29]
<The_Stargazer> what'll it do then
L299[10:18:30] <Izaya> good luck
convincing it to do otherwise
L300[10:18:44] <Lizzy> they just wont
communicate at all
L301[10:19:05] <Lizzy> since the phone is
expecting 42 for the wifi and 43 for the usb
L302[10:19:14] <Lizzy> and you're wanting
to go through the phone
L303[10:19:19] <Lizzy> it'll just ignore
it
L304[10:20:14]
<Forecaster>
why can't you connect it to the laptop via usb
L305[10:20:42]
<The_Stargazer> the NAS?
L306[10:20:44]
<The_Stargazer> or the phone?
L307[10:20:44] <Lizzy> presumably, like
most phones, it only has 1 usb cable
L308[10:20:49]
<The_Stargazer> ^
L309[10:20:58]
<Forecaster>
the NAS...
L310[10:21:02]
<The_Stargazer> wait, what
L311[10:21:07]
<The_Stargazer> connect the NAS to the
laptop?
L312[10:21:09]
<The_Stargazer> via USB?
L313[10:21:28]
<The_Stargazer> how in the heck
L314[10:21:29]
<Forecaster>
yes...
L315[10:21:36]
<The_Stargazer> how?!
L316[10:21:54]
<The_Stargazer> all my USB cables are
microUSB cables
L317[10:21:59] <Lizzy> some NAS units also
have usb for local attachment
L318[10:22:12]
<Forecaster>
I presume that's what he's using to connect it to the
phone...
L319[10:22:15]
<The_Stargazer> it's not an actual
NAS
L321[10:22:21]
<The_Stargazer> it's just an old
desktop
L322[10:22:22]
<Forecaster>
then why are you calling it that
L323[10:22:25]
<The_Stargazer> because
L324[10:22:26]
<The_Stargazer> OMV
L325[10:22:34]
<The_Stargazer> it's a NAS desktop running
OMV
L326[10:22:40]
<The_Stargazer> so it's technically a
NAS
L327[10:22:42] <Izaya> so it's a desktop
running OMV
L328[10:22:55]
<The_Stargazer> yes.
L329[10:23:12] <Izaya> it's function is
network attached storage but does that imply the device itself is a
Network Attached Storage device?
L330[10:23:15] <Izaya> truly a question
for the ages
L331[10:25:38] <Temia> aahhh
L332[10:25:52] <Lizzy> but yeah, short of
either an ethernet cable or cheap wifi dongle, you don't have any
other options
L333[10:25:53]
<The_Stargazer> I have SSH into the phone;
does that help any
L334[10:25:54] <Temia> Turning on the fan
after getting sweaty just trying to fix it back up after it choked
is such a nice feeling
L335[10:26:21] <Lizzy> not really
L336[10:26:45] <Izaya> that reminds me I
need to look into repairing my fan
L337[10:26:53] <Izaya> if I hit it it
works for an hour or so but then it stops again
L338[10:26:56] <Izaya> probably not
sustainable
L339[10:28:14]
<Forecaster>
huh, apparently the main quest of starbound progresses across all
saves
L340[10:28:34] <Temia> The quests
themselves are character-bound, but the tangible effects are
universe-based
L341[10:28:59] <Temia> You could totally
dive headfirst through the ark gate in level 1 gear without even
saying so much as a hi to Esther
L342[10:29:15] <Temia> Your odds of
survival are minimal, but you can
L343[10:29:42] *
Lizzy isn't sure if she's ever gotten throught the first portal
gate thing
L344[10:29:47] <Temia> If you feel like
evening your odds, you can totally get that broken broadsword fixed
before you go through
L345[10:29:57] <Temia> But you're still on
a suicide mission
L346[10:30:16]
<Forecaster>
the furthest I've gotten is the first two orbs
L347[10:30:47]
<The_Stargazer> hmm, there is another
option
L348[10:32:44]
<The_Stargazer> (use hamachi)
L349[10:32:53] <Temia> also
lghfglfhg
L350[10:32:54] <Temia> help I'm gay
L351[10:33:07] <Izaya> >talk to the
internet to get routing between two devices 2m apart
L352[10:33:08] <Temia> I held my shirt
open before my fan to enjoy the air on my sweaty skin
L353[10:33:09] <Izaya> nice
L354[10:33:21] <Temia> And I immediately
imagined my hylotl Shinobu doing the same in a tank top and shorts,
showing off her cute white belly
L355[10:33:34] *
Lizzy gives Temia a rainbow
L356[10:33:34] *
Temia facedesk
L357[10:33:36] <Temia> Lizzyyyy
L358[10:33:40] <Izaya> Temia: don't worry
half the people here are
L359[10:33:44] <Temia> I mean yeah
L360[10:33:58] <Temia> But girls tho
L361[10:34:02] <Lizzy> yis
L362[10:34:04] <Temia> Why are girls so
cutge
L363[10:34:07] <Temia> why am I too gay to
type
L364[10:34:18] *
Lizzy hmms
L365[10:34:32] *
Lizzy diagnoses Temia with The Big Gay:tm:
L366[10:34:48] <Temia> dgjdsghd
L367[10:34:54] <Temia> SOMEONE ELSE GAVE
ME THAT DIAGNOSIS TOO
L368[10:35:01] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
today on the 'fuck you' list: android q!
L369[10:35:01] <Temia> ;A;
L370[10:35:07] <Izaya> CompanionCube: do
tell?
L371[10:35:08]
<Forecaster>
well, you've got a second opinion then
L372[10:35:11] <CompanionCube> not that i
have an android q devics
L373[10:35:11]
<Forecaster>
that makes it true right
L375[10:35:52] <MichiBot>
Title: No
more exec from data folder on targetAPI >= Android Q
| Posted
by: n0n3m4
| Posted: Mon Mar 18 09:46:52 CDT 2019
|
Status: open
L376[10:36:03] <Izaya> excellent
L377[10:36:09] <Izaya> >Google
continues the war on its users
L378[10:37:28] <CompanionCube> it's a 'rip
termux
L379[10:37:31] <CompanionCube> also
L380[10:37:49] <CompanionCube> that is not
what w^x means, google.
L381[10:43:45] <simon816> n-gate++
L382[10:43:49] <CompanionCube> Izaya: also
it's not like there's any non-shit competitors in the tablet
space
L383[10:44:05] <CompanionCube> %inv add a
webshit
L384[10:44:05] *
MichiBot summons 'a webshit' and adds to her inventory. I could get
some good swings in with this.
L385[10:44:57] <asie> %drink random
L386[10:44:58] <MichiBot> You drink a
smelly adamantium potion (New!). asie grows whiskers for 8
moons.
L387[10:44:59] <asie> (New!)
L388[10:45:16] <Temia> Hi Asie
L389[10:45:20]
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L390[10:45:25] *
CompanionCube tickles asie's new whiskers
L391[10:45:36]
<The_Stargazer> hamachi why are you hanging
.-.
L392[10:46:06] <CompanionCube> hamachi is
still a thing?
L394[10:46:13] <Lizzy> aparrently
L395[10:46:35] <Izaya> so I changed the
PsychOS shell to spawn executed files as their own process
now
L396[10:47:25]
<The_Stargazer> CompanionCube: yes, it
is
L397[10:48:16]
<The_Stargazer> gah
L398[10:48:21]
<The_Stargazer> what do you mean it's not
started
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L400[10:55:11]
<The_Stargazer> argh this is stupid
/tableflip
L401[10:55:14]
<The_Stargazer> fuck
L402[10:55:18]
<The_Stargazer> this is stupid (╯°□°)╯︵
┻━┻
L403[10:55:21]
<The_Stargazer> ffs
L404[10:55:22] <Lizzy> yup
L405[10:55:38]
<The_Stargazer> ofc I can't take the easy
option and buy a cable
L406[10:55:48]
<The_Stargazer> because my mother won't let
me :I
L407[10:57:03]
<The_Stargazer> screw this, I'll just wait
until I can get a cable
L408[10:57:23]
<Forecaster>
%flip
L409[10:57:23] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
(╯°□°)╯┻━┻
L410[10:57:36]
<Forecaster>
%flip The_Stargazer
L411[10:57:36] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
(╯°□°)╯ɹǝzɐɓɹɐʇS‾ǝɥ⊥
L412[10:57:44]
<Ariri>
%unflip
L413[10:57:44] <MichiBot> Ariri: ┳━┳ ノ(°
-°ノ)
L414[10:57:53]
<The_Stargazer> %flip Forecaster
L415[10:57:53] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer:
(╯°□°)╯ɹǝʇsɐɔǝɹoℲ
L416[10:57:55]
<Ariri>
Orderly
L417[10:58:05] <AmandaC> Temia: Don't
worry, you're not gay, but your girlfriend is! :P
L418[10:58:20] <Temia> No, I am pretty
hecking gay
L419[10:58:24] <AmandaC> hehe
L420[10:58:25]
<Ariri>
Ahaha
L421[10:58:27] *
AmandaC cuddles Temia
L422[10:58:30] *
Temia hugs c:
L423[10:58:42]
<Ariri>
%drink random
L424[10:58:42] <MichiBot> You drink a
salty yellow potion (New!). Ariri turns into a emerald goat robot
boy until they see a star fall.
L425[10:58:44] *
Lizzy joins in the Temia-AmandaC hug
L426[10:59:01]
<Ariri> Not
gonna see a star in this much light pollution so lol
L427[10:59:32]
<The_Stargazer> I will now proceed to power
off the OMV nas-desktop-thingy, and reconnect the cables to the
laptop
L428[10:59:33]
<Ariri>
Kawaii desu
L429[10:59:41]
<The_Stargazer> Because I can't be arsed to
deal with this at 4 am
L430[11:00:06]
<The_Stargazer> oh yeah for some reason the
PC beeps
L431[11:00:16]
<The_Stargazer> neaat
L432[11:00:18]
<The_Stargazer> neat [Edited]
L433[11:00:20] <Lizzy> they do that
L434[11:00:31]
<The_Stargazer> ive never heard one
actually beep
L435[11:00:44]
<Ariri>
Beep
L436[11:00:50]
<The_Stargazer> Beep indee
L437[11:00:53]
<The_Stargazer> ..d
L438[11:00:59]
<Ariri>
Boop
L439[11:01:02]
<Ariri>
%beepboop
L440[11:01:19]
<Ariri>
Beep: you don’t have a cpu
L441[11:01:31]
<The_Stargazer> how it do that tho
L442[11:01:39]
<Forecaster>
magic
L443[11:01:47]
<Forecaster>
and electricity
L444[11:01:52]
<The_Stargazer> motherboards probs got a
tiny cpu
L445[11:01:54]
<Ariri>
Thinking rocks
L446[11:01:55]
<The_Stargazer> or something
L447[11:02:00] <AmandaC> Piezoelectrc
speaker
L448[11:02:04]
<Ariri>
^
L449[11:02:06]
<Forecaster>
cpus don't beep
L450[11:02:08]
<Forecaster>
speakers beep
L451[11:02:11]
<The_Stargazer> Piezowhat speaker
L452[11:02:13]
<Ariri> It’s
a speaker on the mb
L453[11:02:37]
<Ariri>
%search wiki piezoelectric
L454[11:02:38] <MichiBot> Ariri:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectricity -
*Piezoelectricity - Wikipedia*: "Piezoelectricity is the
electric charge that accumulates in certain solid materials in
response to applied mechanical stress. The word piezoelectricity
means ..."
L455[11:02:48]
<The_Stargazer> afs (away from screen)
reconnecting laptop to screen + keyboard + mouse
L456[11:02:48]
<Ariri>
There
L457[11:05:57] <AmandaC> Temia: you know
what I wish existed as a starbound mod? A mod that when you beam
back up from a planet for the first time, you have to fill out an
"After action report"-type thing, where you have a place
in-game, shared with other players, to put info about the planet.
Like "Contains Hyotl village"
L458[11:06:26] <Temia> That'd be
interesting
L459[11:06:38] <Temia> Possibly as part of
a new protectorate initiative?
L460[11:06:56] <AmandaC> I'm not sure it'd
even be possible though
L461[11:07:07] <AmandaC> ISTR the
starbound scripting stuff is severly limited
L462[11:07:14] <AmandaC> but I've not
looked that hard since pre-beta
L463[11:07:22] <AmandaC> s/beta/1.0/
L464[11:07:22] <MichiBot> <AmandaC>
but I've not looked that hard since pre-1.0
L465[11:11:58] <Temia> There are potential
hooks for it.
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L470[11:45:02]
<Forecaster>
%sip random
L471[11:45:03] <MichiBot> You drink a
shimmering unobtanium potion (New!). A lava flies past that vaguely
resembles someone Forecaster knows.
L472[11:45:13]
<Forecaster>
heh
L473[11:48:31] <Lizzy> %tonk
L474[11:48:31] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy,
you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 6 hours, 4
minutes and 33 seconds this time. 4 hours, 38 minutes and 37
seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 25 minutes and 56
seconds!
L475[11:48:36] <Lizzy> :<
L476[11:49:28]
<Forecaster>
dangit lizzy
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L486[13:35:04]
<NotBob>
10000 PINGS YAY
L488[13:42:56] <Vexatos> @marcin212 you
should be able to do that, no?
L490[13:46:51]
<marcin212>
It works. Thanks!
L491[13:46:58] <Vexatos> but I did nothing
D:
L492[13:47:09]
<Forecaster>
you said stuff
L493[13:47:21] <Vexatos> did I now
L494[13:47:23] <Vexatos> do you have
prove
L495[13:47:28] <Vexatos> perhaps I was
silent the whole time
L496[13:47:49]
<Forecaster>
well I heard it
L497[13:48:21] <AmandaC> Temia: TIL you
can teleport to the racial flags. I knew there was a purpose to
them, but didn't remember until I looked it up on a whim,
L498[13:48:31]
<Forecaster>
heh
L499[14:50:51]
<AdorableCatgirl> wait
L500[14:50:56]
<AdorableCatgirl> someone had never heard a
PC beep?
L501[14:51:06]
<AdorableCatgirl> my old PC would always
give a single beep on a good boot
L502[14:51:16]
<Mimiru>
Welcome to the world of tomorrow.
L503[14:51:37]
<Mimiru>
Hell most boards don't ship with the little "speakers"
any more.
L504[14:51:48]
<Mimiru> I
had to grab one from my old board to get diag beeps on my new
one
L505[14:51:57] <CompanionCube> i know
:(
L506[14:52:04] <CompanionCube> i didn't
bother
L507[14:52:14] <CompanionCube> so now the
only sound when booting is that of my CD/DVD drive
L508[14:53:21]
<AdorableCatgirl> yeah my new mobo doesn't
have a speaker
L509[14:53:25]
<AdorableCatgirl> or a disc drive
L510[14:53:32]
<AdorableCatgirl> all i hear is my 3TB
drive spinning up
L511[14:55:24]
<NotBob> I
have the beep beep
L512[14:55:30]
<NotBob>
2012 :GWlulurdMmmYea:
L513[14:55:50]
<NotBob> But
now there are boards with digit panels things
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L517[15:42:40] <Temia> Oh boy
L518[15:42:58] <Temia> Forecaster found
Beautiful Attempt
L519[15:43:00] <Temia> This is gonna be
good
L520[15:44:39]
<Forecaster>
I had to rush out of there because I was starving
L522[16:01:41]
<NotBob>
0404_notfound
L523[16:02:07] <AmandaC> wait, what?
L524[16:02:45] <AmandaC> There's a
pseudo-dating-sim in the game? Or is that added by FU
L525[16:03:16]
<AdorableCatgirl> oh yeah
L526[16:03:25]
<AdorableCatgirl> i need to add a way to
boot from removable media
L527[16:03:32]
<Forecaster>
I don't have FU
L528[16:05:27]
<AdorableCatgirl> anyways, new naming
scheme is to fit in ProximaFS's 12.4 file name format
L529[16:05:40]
<AdorableCatgirl> and for better loading
order
L530[16:58:20]
<AdorableCatgirl> well
L531[16:58:25]
<AdorableCatgirl> proximafs is coming
along
L532[16:58:41]
<AdorableCatgirl> with read and write
capabilities
L534[17:02:40] <AdorableCatgirl> the J A N
K will be done soon
L535[17:09:44]
<NotBob>
yes
L536[17:10:16] <AdorableCatgirl> yea,
currently have sector allocation/deallocation/reserving done
L537[17:14:14] <AdorableCatgirl> also,
toptier shit here
L538[17:15:07] <AdorableCatgirl> a sector
can get dealloc'd and still be counted as part of a file unless the
preceding sector's link is set to 0
L539[17:15:30] <AdorableCatgirl>
anyways
L540[17:16:02] <AdorableCatgirl> doing
such a thing will ofc lead to undefined behavior
L541[17:24:08] <AmandaC> %8ball
computer?
L542[17:24:08] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Ask
again later
L543[17:24:21] *
AmandaC decides that means "put the computer away and veg
out"
L545[17:25:40] <AdorableCatgirl> my
favorite thing so far is `pfs:nuke_sector(sector)`
L546[17:35:20] <Temia> Ooh
L547[17:38:41] <AdorableCatgirl> i mean
all it does is write a sector of nulls but w/e
L548[17:53:48]
<Forecaster>
%tonkout
L549[17:53:49] <MichiBot> Dagnammit!
Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 6 hours, 4
minutes and 33 seconds (By 43 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L550[17:53:50] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk
points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 0.732
L551[17:54:02]
<Forecaster>
Whoof
L552[17:54:08]
<Forecaster>
That was a close call
L553[17:54:10] <asie> %tonk
L554[17:54:11] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins!
asie! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 22
seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L555[17:54:12] <MichiBot> asie's new
record is 22 seconds! asie also gained 0.00001 tonk points for
stealing the tonk.
L556[18:02:37] <AdorableCatgirl>
%tonkout
L557[18:02:37] <MichiBot> Potzblitz!
AdorableCatgirl! You beat asie's previous record of 22 seconds (By
8 minutes and 3 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L558[18:02:38] <MichiBot> AdorableCatgirl
has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0 tonk
points! Current score: 0.00075
L559[18:02:41] <AdorableCatgirl> kek
L560[18:03:03] <AdorableCatgirl>
%tonk
L561[18:03:03] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit!
AdorableCatgirl! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 26
seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L562[18:03:04] <MichiBot>
AdorableCatgirl's new record is 26 seconds! No points gained for
stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00001 x 1 = 0.00001)
L563[18:03:10] <AdorableCatgirl> :^)
L564[18:09:18] <asie> %tonk
L565[18:09:18] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! asie!
You beat AdorableCatgirl's previous record of 26 seconds (By 5
minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L566[18:09:19] <MichiBot> asie's new
record is 6 minutes and 15 seconds! asie also gained 0.0001 tonk
points for stealing the tonk.
L567[18:09:51]
<Paradoxical> %tonk
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L569[18:10:45] <ParadoxicalIRC>
%tonk
L570[18:10:45] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
ParadoxicalIRC, you were not able to beat asie's record of 6
minutes and 15 seconds this time. 1 minute and 27 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 4 minutes and 48 seconds!
L571[18:10:51] <ParadoxicalIRC> oof
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L574[18:17:26] <AdorableCatgirl>
%tonk
L575[18:17:26] <MichiBot> Bejabbers!
AdorableCatgirl! You beat asie's previous record of 6 minutes and
15 seconds (By 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L576[18:17:27] <MichiBot>
AdorableCatgirl's new record is 6 minutes and 40 seconds!
AdorableCatgirl also gained 0.00001 tonk points for stealing the
tonk.
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L578[19:05:36] <AmandaC> %8ball rain
time?
L579[19:05:36] <MichiBot> AmandaC: [ The
Bowling ball doesn't answer ]
L580[19:16:00] <AmandaC> Temia: I'm going
to be so pissed if the "romance" twg takes effect by
Hermes becoming a regular character and the blond woman dates him.
(Royal road doesn't have a LGBT tag)
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L582[19:38:45] <AmandaC> %8ball
re-computer to update?
L583[19:38:45] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Reply
hazy, try again
L584[19:41:52]
<The_Stargazer> %tonk
L585[19:41:53] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
The_Stargazer! You beat AdorableCatgirl's previous record of 6
minutes and 40 seconds (By 1 hour, 17 minutes and 45 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L586[19:41:54] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer's
new record is 1 hour, 24 minutes and 26 seconds! The_Stargazer also
gained 0.0013 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L587[19:48:18]
<The_Stargazer> %tonkout
L588[19:48:19] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
The_Stargazer, you were not able to beat The_Stargazer's record of
1 hour, 24 minutes and 26 seconds this time. 6 minutes and 26
seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 17 minutes and 59
seconds!
L589[19:48:23]
<The_Stargazer> what
L590[20:02:23] <Izaya> >OpenRCT2 builds
Discord-RPC
L591[20:02:24] <Izaya> disgusting
L592[20:02:30] <Izaya> good thing I have
it blocked at the firewall
L593[20:02:42]
<The_Stargazer> ?
L594[20:03:57] <Izaya> presumablu it's for
in-game Discord integration
L595[20:04:07] <Izaya> which is gonna be
funny when Discord inevitably folds but whatever
L596[20:05:13]
<The_Stargazer> what is OpenRCT2?
L597[20:05:37]
<The_Stargazer> also
L598[20:05:44]
<The_Stargazer> can you `pcall` a
`file:write()` call?
L599[20:05:45] <Izaya> Open RollerCoaster
Tycoon 2
L600[20:05:52]
<The_Stargazer> ah
L601[20:06:06] <Izaya> yes but it's kinda
jank
L602[20:06:11]
<The_Stargazer> but it works?
L603[20:06:23]
<The_Stargazer> I want to check if my
writes actually work
L604[20:06:26]
<The_Stargazer> and if they don't
L605[20:06:27] <Izaya> when you call a
table:function() it passes the table as the first param
L606[20:06:34]
<The_Stargazer> print an error instead of
crashing
L607[20:06:53] <Izaya> so it'd be
pcall(file.write, file, params)
L608[20:07:22]
<The_Stargazer> so would
L609[20:07:22]
<The_Stargazer> `pcall(io.write, file,
"message")` be better? would that even work?
L610[20:11:02] <Izaya> Dunno
L611[20:12:30]
<The_Stargazer> i'll OCEmu it
L612[20:14:50]
<The_Stargazer> nope.
L613[20:16:48] <Izaya> >2019
L614[20:16:52] <Izaya> >not using
ocvm
L615[20:17:03]
<The_Stargazer> >segfault
L616[20:17:39]
<Kodos>
%tonk
L617[20:17:40] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Kodos,
you were not able to beat The_Stargazer's record of 1 hour, 24
minutes and 26 seconds this time. 29 minutes and 20 seconds were
wasted! Missed by 55 minutes and 5 seconds!
L618[20:17:45]
<The_Stargazer> HA
L619[20:17:52]
<The_Stargazer> I have ruined your
plans
L620[20:18:04]
<The_Stargazer> (or was that just a blind
tonk)
L621[20:18:32] <Izaya> >2019
L622[20:18:33] <Izaya> >not being able
to run ocvm
L623[20:18:42]
<The_Stargazer> >2019
L624[20:18:42]
<The_Stargazer> >1GHz
L625[20:18:57]
<The_Stargazer> even
L626[20:18:58]
<The_Stargazer> >2017
L627[20:18:58]
<The_Stargazer> >1Ghz
L628[20:19:07]
<The_Stargazer> as iirc this is a 2017
laptop
L629[20:19:16]
<The_Stargazer> running windows 10
**17**03
L630[20:19:27]
<The_Stargazer> (I think the first two
numbers are the year?)
L631[20:19:41]
<Kodos>
Windows update version has nothing to do with the manufacturing
year of your laptop/desktop
L632[20:19:49]
<The_Stargazer> o
L633[20:19:58]
<The_Stargazer> well its got a 2016
CPU
L634[20:20:04]
<The_Stargazer> so its probably from 2016
or 2017
L635[20:20:18]
<The_Stargazer> it's, uh, never been
updated
L636[20:20:28]
<The_Stargazer> because
L637[20:20:28]
<The_Stargazer> >32GB eMMC chip as only
drive
L638[20:20:44]
<Kodos>
Err
L639[20:20:50]
<Kodos> What
kind of shitty laptop is it
L640[20:20:54]
<The_Stargazer> Acer Aspire 1
L641[20:21:05]
<Kodos> A
tiny netbook?
L642[20:21:10]
<The_Stargazer> Yes, basically
L643[20:21:11]
<Kodos> I
have one, and even it has a drive
L644[20:21:23]
<The_Stargazer> The drive is soldered to
the board.
L645[20:21:32] <Izaya> 32GB is more than
enough for a worthwhile OS
L646[20:21:40]
<The_Stargazer> the thing was like
$320
L647[20:21:49] <Izaya> so expensive for
trash
L648[20:21:59] <Izaya> Consider also:
checking if there's space for a 2.5" drive inside
L649[20:22:03]
<Kodos> I
just put ubuntu server on my AA1 and use WeeChat and nano
L650[20:22:10]
<Kodos> And
use it to dev while out and about
L651[20:22:54]
<The_Stargazer> my mother doesn't want me
to open it up (it's her laptop)
L652[20:23:04] <Izaya> Save $100
L653[20:23:07] <Izaya> Buy an X220
L654[20:23:11] <Izaya> Install Linux
L655[20:23:14] <Izaya> Be happy
L656[20:23:20]
<The_Stargazer> Yes.
L657[20:23:23]
<The_Stargazer> Except
L658[20:23:28]
<The_Stargazer> I can't afford $220
L659[20:23:36] <Izaya> I said $100
L660[20:23:40]
<The_Stargazer> Oh
L661[20:23:40] <Izaya> Not $220
L662[20:23:43]
<The_Stargazer> I thought you meant
L663[20:23:47]
<The_Stargazer> Save $100 from $320
L664[20:24:18]
<The_Stargazer> But yeah I still can't
afford $100
L665[20:24:22]
<The_Stargazer> I get $10... a week.
L666[20:24:31] <Izaya> 10 weeks of
saving
L667[20:24:40]
<The_Stargazer> How would I even buy one
anyway
L668[20:24:46]
<The_Stargazer> (and what are the specs of
the X220)
L669[20:24:55] <Izaya> give someone $100
cash and get them to get it off ebay for you
L670[20:25:05]
<The_Stargazer> >ebay
L671[20:25:05]
<The_Stargazer> what if scam
L672[20:25:15] <Izaya> that's not how ebay
works
L673[20:25:22]
<The_Stargazer> its not?
L674[20:25:48] <Izaya> no
L675[20:26:01] <Izaya> if you're dumb
enough to not check seller feedback you deserve to be scammed
L677[20:26:59] <Izaya> 1/3 the price and
several times older than yours and still kicks the shit out of
it
L679[20:29:56]
<The_Stargazer> >8GB
L680[20:29:57]
<The_Stargazer> >quad-core 3GHz
L681[20:30:00]
<The_Stargazer> X220 wins hands down
L682[20:30:49] <Izaya> also has the best
keyboard of a laptop built since
L683[20:31:03] <Izaya> and given the
keyboard is the most important part of a laptop...
L684[20:31:05]
<The_Stargazer> eh
L685[20:31:05]
<The_Stargazer> i've got a
screen/mouse/keyboard setup
L686[20:32:10] <Izaya> got a dock from my
T420 that fits my X220
L687[20:32:16]
<The_Stargazer> what's the X220's touchpad
like
L688[20:32:22] <Izaya> it's honestly
eh
L689[20:32:30] <Izaya> but the touchpad
doesn't matter when it has the TrackPoint
L690[20:32:33]
<The_Stargazer> touchpads are eh in
general
L691[20:32:38]
<The_Stargazer> trackpoint?
L692[20:32:47] <Izaya> I swear we've
talked about this before
L693[20:32:54]
<The_Stargazer> ohh, that little button
thingy?
L694[20:32:56] <Izaya> the red thing in
the middle of the keyboard that acts as a mouse
L695[20:32:57]
<The_Stargazer> on the keyboard?
L696[20:33:07]
<The_Stargazer> the laptops at school have
em
L697[20:33:13] <Izaya> if I were less lazy
I'd set the dock up on the other desk and hook up two extra
displays and a mouse up to it but it's not really worth the
effort
L698[20:33:15]
<The_Stargazer> i find it impossible to
use
L699[20:33:26] <Izaya> my
condolences
L700[20:33:35] <Izaya> doesn't matter,
mice are unnecessary
L701[20:34:31]
<The_Stargazer> a friend of a friend of my
mother's has an old laptop they might give me
L702[20:34:31]
<The_Stargazer> it'd be hilarious if it was
an X220
L703[20:34:31]
<The_Stargazer> highly unlikely but
still
L704[20:35:56] <Izaya> question
L705[20:36:05] <Izaya> do your parents
engage in helicopter parenting
L706[20:36:10]
<The_Stargazer> nope
L707[20:36:20]
<The_Stargazer> parent actually
L708[20:36:36] <Izaya> noted
L709[20:36:40] *
Izaya hmms
L710[20:37:28]
<The_Stargazer> infact she barely checks
what I'm doing *at all*
L711[20:37:36] <Izaya> >Published
23/07/2019
L712[20:37:41] <Izaya> Wonder if it'll be
on libgen
L713[20:37:42]
<The_Stargazer> i can even have the lounge
door closed
L714[20:38:06]
<The_Stargazer> ?
L715[20:38:07] <Izaya> oh hey it is
L717[20:38:41] <Izaya> apparently this
book is generating controversy
L718[20:39:42]
<The_Stargazer> whats the supposed to
be
L719[20:39:50]
<The_Stargazer> i see a big rectangle
L721[20:40:59]
<The_Stargazer> I see `catbox.moe` a lot,
care to explain what it is?
L722[20:41:17] <Izaya> it's a temporary
file storage site
L723[20:41:22]
<The_Stargazer> Ah
L724[20:41:23] <Izaya> you upload a file,
get a link
L725[20:41:30] <Izaya> you can share that
link and for a while it'll be there
L726[20:41:36] <Izaya> but after a while
the file gets deleted
L727[20:41:54] <Izaya> depending on space
constraints
L728[20:41:55]
<The_Stargazer> my cat is deciding to sit
on my OMV desktop
L729[20:44:19]
<The_Stargazer> ah
L730[20:44:20]
<The_Stargazer> I see
L731[20:44:29]
<The_Stargazer> so smaller files last
longer then?
L732[20:44:36] <Izaya> unsure
L733[20:44:59] <Izaya> in the case of
0x0.st that's the case, but it could also be deleting the oldest
files first until it has enough space
L734[20:45:00]
<The_Stargazer> but it's good if you just
wanna share a file over 8MB on discord I suppose
L735[20:45:23] <Izaya> >Discord
L736[20:45:24] *
Izaya vomits
L737[20:45:46]
<The_Stargazer> What's with your beef with
Discord
L738[20:45:48] *
Lizzy needs to set up her 'files' site properly again
L739[20:46:13] <Izaya> it's proprietary
siloed webshit that does nothing better than IRC, XMPP, Mumble,
TeamSpeak, or really anything else
L740[20:46:45]
<The_Stargazer> fair point.
L741[20:46:54] <Izaya> they make it
impractical to leave and are, if not presently selling your
information, saving it to inflate their value when they inevitably
sell off the company to Google, Amazon, Facebook, Apple or
Microsoft.
L742[20:47:12]
<The_Stargazer> what do you mean
"impractical to leave">
L743[20:47:16]
<The_Stargazer> ?*
L744[20:47:24] <Izaya> impractical to
switch to another service
L745[20:47:41]
<The_Stargazer> how so
L746[20:47:47] <Izaya> they provide no
good way to export your data, or import it for that matter, there
is no easy way to leave a "find me here instead" note,
generally, they don't want you leaving
L747[20:48:15]
<The_Stargazer> can you do that on IRC?
XMPP? Mumble? TeamSpeak?
L748[20:48:29] <Izaya> sure
L749[20:48:37] <Izaya> IRC? Doesn't bother
to keep anything.
L750[20:48:56] <Izaya> XMPP? Rip your
server-side archives and delete them on the server.
L751[20:49:09] <Izaya> Mumble? It's just
voice chat, and your identity is independent of the server.
L752[20:49:17] <Izaya> TS? Haven't used it
in about 10 years can't remember.
L753[20:49:31]
<The_Stargazer> TS is probably the same as
Mumble
L754[20:49:42] <Izaya> I don't know how
identity is handled in TS
L755[20:49:45]
<The_Stargazer> And what about the
"find me here instead" note?
L756[20:49:51] <Lizzy> TS is more-or-less
the same as mumble, but you can have the same uuid
L757[20:50:04] <Lizzy> or rather, same
identity and then use that elsewhere
L758[20:50:11] <Izaya> Mumble uses client
certificates so you can identify the same person on a different
server, hence how client-side friends lists work
L759[20:50:12] <Izaya> which is neat
L760[20:50:31] <Lizzy> if people add you
to their contacts they'll be able to identify you on other servers
and stuff
L761[20:50:58] <Izaya> IRC is less
practical about that but I mean, if you want to change servers a)
there's no reason you can't use multiple b) you can change your
name on the same network anyway
L762[20:51:06] <Izaya> and just like
L763[20:51:21] <Izaya> tell anyone you
care about knowing, chances are they're connected to whatever other
network you're moving to
L764[20:51:32] <Izaya> if you oper a
channel, set the topic or maybe even set up a bridge bot
L765[20:51:45] <Izaya> XMPP? Set a status
to say where you are.
L766[20:52:09] <Izaya> Mumble? Again,
client-side certs make it easy to identify if it's really you, just
tell people, y'know.
L767[20:52:48] <Izaya> Of course, we're
ignoring the big one here.
L768[20:52:55] <Izaya> All of these, you
can run your own server anyway.
L769[20:54:29] <Izaya> Can't do that with
Discord.
L770[20:55:34] *
Lizzy curls up next to AmandaC and falls sleep
L771[21:15:52] *
AmandaC quietly teaches Lizzy's kittens the latest viral pop
song
L772[21:19:17] <AmandaC> ... goddesses
above I'm old. All I can think of that fits that description is
Britney Spears songs.
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L774[21:29:52] <AmandaC> %8ball one more
chapter?
L775[21:29:52] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My
reply is no
L776[21:30:03] <AmandaC> %8ball two more
chapters?
L777[21:30:03] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My
reply is no
L778[21:30:13] <AmandaC> %8ball sleep
immediately?
L779[21:30:13] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Signs
point to yes
L780[21:30:16] <AmandaC> :(
L781[21:30:19] <AmandaC> Fiiiine
L782[21:30:30] *
AmandaC nestles down into the cuddle pile of Temia and Lizzy,
dozes
L783[21:30:32] <AmandaC> night nerds
L784[21:30:54] <Izaya> blergh this is
harder than I thought
L785[21:31:28] <Izaya> how am I meant to
avoid allocating multiple GPUs to one display while using two
sources of information
L786[21:31:30] <Izaya> ... unless...
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L788[22:04:12] <Izaya> the PsychOS shell
is getting more complicated :|
L789[22:04:20] <Izaya> probably because
shell builtins but anyway
L790[22:05:13] <Izaya> cd() is now a thing
so yay
L792[22:09:52]
<AdorableCatgirl> nice
L793[22:10:20] <Izaya> also you can now
statically bind a GPU to a screen
L794[22:10:29]
<AdorableCatgirl> hey, could I use PsychOS
for a "recovery shell" in Zorya? :P
L795[22:10:41] <Izaya> I mean sure but it
uses most of the tmpfs nowadays
L796[22:17:17]
<AdorableCatgirl> i mean
L797[22:17:34]
<AdorableCatgirl> zorya uses an HDD or FDD
anyways
L798[22:18:53] <Izaya> I'm just saying an
install is fairly big now
L799[22:19:16] <Izaya> though most of it
is unnecessary
L800[22:19:29] <Izaya> you could probably
drop 90% of the stuff if you don't want networking
L801[22:19:37] <Izaya> or like
L802[22:19:40] <Izaya> assorted
utilities
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L804[22:20:32] <Izaya> a lot of the kernel
is optional too
L805[22:32:15]
<AdorableCatgirl> ooo
L806[22:32:30]
<AdorableCatgirl> i only really need a
shell, and it'd have access to a lot of zorya's utilities too
L807[22:32:40]
<AdorableCatgirl> but having a faily decent
OS for the shell is nice
L808[22:34:09]
<Trainfan91>
@Z0idburg are u playing qc?
L809[22:34:21]
<AdorableCatgirl> as it means i could
include some utilities for ease of fixing
L810[22:34:26]
<AdorableCatgirl> qc?
L811[22:34:29]
<AdorableCatgirl> quake champions?
L812[22:34:34]
<Trainfan91>
yes
L813[22:34:58]
<AdorableCatgirl> ew
L814[22:35:05]
<AdorableCatgirl> >not playing Q3R
L815[22:35:08]
<AdorableCatgirl> >on the ps2
L816[22:35:13]
<AdorableCatgirl> >in 720p
L817[22:35:18]
<Trainfan91>
i THINK i saw him... lol
L818[22:35:24]
<AdorableCatgirl> get destroyed uwu
L819[22:35:58]
<AdorableCatgirl> i have UT99 on my
PS2
L820[22:36:02]
<AdorableCatgirl> tbh
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L824[22:43:12] <AdorableCatgirl>
anyways
L825[22:43:22] <AdorableCatgirl> PsychOS
is neat
L826[22:45:32]
<The_Stargazer> so im thinking of having my
logger print a message on every failed write
L827[22:45:41]
<The_Stargazer> should it only print once
if it fails?
L828[22:45:47]
<The_Stargazer> instead of printing on
every failure
L829[22:45:54]
<The_Stargazer> only print one
failure
L830[22:48:53] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: So
what all do I need for a minimum boot?
L831[22:49:46] <Izaya> well you can get
rid of all the libraries and services
L832[22:50:16] <Izaya> stuff in exec is
optional also
L833[22:50:34] <Izaya> I'll get back to
you re: kernel modules shortly
L834[22:50:39] <Izaya> Hanging out some
washing
L835[22:50:57] <AdorableCatgirl> ah
L836[22:55:27] <Izaya> actually kernel
module wise it's pretty tight
L837[22:55:34] <Izaya> I've been moving
unnecessary stuff outwards
L838[23:01:18] <AdorableCatgirl> so
L839[23:01:36] <AdorableCatgirl> what's
the minimum i can get away with and still have access to things
like unarchive and mkarchive
L840[23:01:58] <Izaya> well minitel
depends on the event library
L841[23:02:07] <Izaya> but I'm pretty sure
everything else just depends on stuff in the kernel
L842[23:02:07] <AdorableCatgirl> actually
you know what
L843[23:02:19] <AdorableCatgirl> i could
probably make my own utils tbh
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L845[23:10:09] <Izaya> you could probably
write a custom kernel module to spawn the shell as part of the
kernel
L846[23:10:16] <Izaya> and you could skip
having the init module
L847[23:10:30] <AdorableCatgirl> yea
L848[23:10:46] <AdorableCatgirl> currently
just playing with PsychOS first to get a better feel for it
L849[23:11:01] <AdorableCatgirl> also
forgot to make it boot in Zorya mode so lmao oops
L850[23:11:18] <AdorableCatgirl> it booted
in compat mode
L851[23:11:23] <Izaya> todo: move the
universal minitel build out and replace it with a PsychOS specific
one to reduce space used
L852[23:11:55] <Izaya> so I have a single
minitel build that works on OpenOS, PsychOS and KOS NEO but it
contains code for all 3 so it's kinda pigfat
L853[23:12:24] <Izaya> nice to have but
I'd prefer to just maintain 3 different ones with clearly defined
OS-specific code
L854[23:12:38] <Izaya> today's fun (dumb)
idea
L855[23:12:49] <Izaya> a program for
OpenOS that goes through all Lua files on the system and removes
the comments
L856[23:13:10] <AdorableCatgirl> perfect
for if you for some reason installed OpenOS in a ProximaFS
partition
L857[23:13:35]
<Paradoxical> is there any possible way to
make a pseudo-component (like make a driver for an unmanaged
filesystem that works like a normal component.filesystem and is
registered as one)?
L858[23:13:39] <AdorableCatgirl> just
remember to run fsck.proximafs (device address)
L859[23:13:51] <Izaya> Paradoxical: yes
look into vcomponent
L860[23:13:55] <Izaya> it's on oppm and
the forums
L861[23:14:06] <AdorableCatgirl> and zorya
has it's own impl
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L863[23:14:10] <ParadoxicalIRC>
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L866[23:14:14]
<Paradoxical> yay
L867[23:14:18] <AdorableCatgirl> as long
as you download the optional module
L868[23:14:24] <AdorableCatgirl> dunno how
fast it is tho
L869[23:14:30] <AdorableCatgirl> also
haven't tested it very much
L870[23:14:36] <AdorableCatgirl> i need to
make a basic BIOS device
L871[23:14:38] <AdorableCatgirl> for
testing
L872[23:14:54]
<Paradoxical> probably going to make my own
bios as I'm probably going to need some sort of disk or something
to load a driver for my filesystem
L873[23:14:56] <Izaya> also todo: the
ability for PsychOS to export devices over Minitel
L874[23:14:59]
<Paradoxical> unless I can cram it into one
bios
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L876[23:16:19]
<AdorableCatgirl> also do you not know how
Zorya works? @Paradoxical
L877[23:16:23]
<AdorableCatgirl> that's like
L878[23:16:27]
<AdorableCatgirl> Zorya's main deal
L879[23:16:29]
<Paradoxical> ah
L880[23:16:37]
<AdorableCatgirl> is being a super modular
BIOS/Bootloader
L881[23:16:44]
<Paradoxical> I'll look into it
L883[23:17:01]
<AdorableCatgirl> not to shill my own bios
or anything but
L884[23:17:07]
<AdorableCatgirl> it's the main meme of
it
L885[23:17:28]
<Paradoxical> I'll probably end up making
my own module for it eventually
L886[23:17:31] <AdorableCatgirl> thus why
i could so easily integrate PsychOS into it
L887[23:17:45] <AdorableCatgirl> also
Zorya v2 will keep compatibility with Zorya v1.x modules
<3
L889[23:23:02]
<Paradoxical> oh cool zorya implements
OEFI
L890[23:23:15] <Izaya> neat
L891[23:24:00]
<Paradoxical> welp, time to write a
filesystem driver for (the parts of my filesystem) that work
L892[23:24:13]
<Paradoxical> welp, time to write a
filesystem driver for the parts of my filesystem that work
[Edited]
L893[23:24:55] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: I
can run Zorya from inside PsychOS
L894[23:24:58] <AdorableCatgirl> big
think
L895[23:25:38] <AdorableCatgirl>
load(component.invoke(component.list("eeprom")(),
"get"))()
L896[23:26:49]
<AdorableCatgirl> wow
L897[23:26:59]
<AdorableCatgirl> zorya+psychos uses 121K
of memory
L898[23:27:17]
<AdorableCatgirl> lowkey surprised it's
that low, thought zorya was more of a memory hog
L899[23:27:34]
<AdorableCatgirl> maybe i should add the
memory usage thing to zorya
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L902[23:33:33]
<AdorableCatgirl> ofc that's before GC and
all
L903[23:33:45]
<AdorableCatgirl> so it may use less
L904[23:33:57]
<AdorableCatgirl> but do keep in mind
memory usage scales with loaded modules
L905[23:34:50]
<AdorableCatgirl> tbh
L906[23:35:05]
<AdorableCatgirl> there's probably a bit of
a memleak in zorya i need to fix
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L909[23:52:07]
<AdorableCatgirl> i forgot that was a
thing