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L1[00:00:19] <Ariri> any anime/manga recommendations? Esp ones with catgirls :3
L2[00:05:05] <Mark42XLII> Anyone willing to answer a very stupid question about ``load()``?
L3[00:05:34] <Izaya> we'll have had dumber, I guarantee it
L4[00:05:36] <Mark42XLII> At this point I already got to brain meltdown
L5[00:10:44] <Mimiru> %tell AmandaC I.. I want that kitty... lol
L6[00:10:45] <MichiBot> Mimiru: AmandaC will be notified of this message when next seen.
L7[01:05:20] <Forecaster> %tonk
L8[01:05:22] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 2 hours, 47 minutes and 48 seconds (By 1 hour, 36 minutes and 47 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L9[01:05:23] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 4 hours, 24 minutes and 35 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00483 (0.00161 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L12[01:46:04] <Inari> Nep
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L15[02:00:33] <Inari> AmandaC: Haha
L16[02:00:45] <Inari> AmandaC: You and your odd fish dislike
L17[02:01:41] <The_Stargazer> random question
L18[02:01:47] <The_Stargazer> are space stations geostationary or low earth orbit?
L19[02:02:17] <Inari> I mean
L20[02:02:22] <Inari> Think about that for a moment :P
L21[02:02:29] <Inari> Does the ISS move in the sky?
L22[02:03:09] <The_Stargazer> Does it?
L23[02:03:21] <Inari> It does
L24[02:03:22] <Inari> :P
L25[02:03:34] <The_Stargazer> So, low earth then?
L26[02:03:38] <Inari> I thought that was common knowledge
L27[02:03:50] <Inari> iI think so
L28[02:05:29] <The_Stargazer> Oh yeah
L29[02:05:37] <The_Stargazer> IIRC there was an xkcd about advertising
L30[02:05:40] <The_Stargazer> and geolinks
L31[02:05:44] <The_Stargazer> and it was low earth, not geostationary
L32[02:05:54] <The_Stargazer> i should read more xkcd
L33[02:06:14] <The_Stargazer> even made a program to download as many images from xkcd as it could
L34[02:06:17] <The_Stargazer> using it's JSON API
L35[02:06:26] <The_Stargazer> and luvit's coro-http / coro-fs
L36[02:07:11] <Inari> Audible ffs
L37[02:07:18] <The_Stargazer> what?
L38[02:07:22] <Inari> It wont work
L39[02:07:22] <Inari> :P
L40[02:07:27] <The_Stargazer> Oh
L41[02:07:45] <Inari> Ah, for ~some~ Reason I had to pause the player and then restart it
L42[02:07:47] <Inari> w/e
L43[02:08:03] <The_Stargazer> the side panel on the dell dimension 3000 is impossible to get off
L44[02:08:13] <The_Stargazer> i'm beginning to wonder if it's even able to come off
L45[02:08:50] <The_Stargazer> but once I get the case panel off I can just add more drives and use it as an OMV NAS
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L47[02:48:10] <Izaya> took me like 3 weeks to figure out you meant OpenMediaVault
L48[02:48:13] <Izaya> carry on I guess
L49[02:51:12] <The_Stargazer> haha
L50[02:52:03] <Forecaster> I knew all along
L51[02:52:09] <Forecaster> (That's a lie)
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L56[05:40:47] <The_Stargazer> hmm
L57[05:40:54] <The_Stargazer> my program isn't outputting anything :/
L58[05:41:16] <The_Stargazer> it's supposed to output debug info when it opens the logfile
L59[05:42:12] <Forecaster> then you've done something wrong
L60[05:42:31] <The_Stargazer> want me to pastebin so you can take a look? I can't see any problems :/
L61[05:42:54] <Forecaster> can't hurt
L62[05:43:02] <The_Stargazer> https://pastebin.com/uDP9Cv9a
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L64[05:47:07] <The_Stargazer> ok it makes the `addClient` thread
L65[05:47:26] <The_Stargazer> but doesn't open the log
L66[05:50:42] <Forecaster> I can't see anything obvious
L67[05:50:47] <Forecaster> use prints to debug
L68[05:50:59] <The_Stargazer> ? I do that
L69[05:52:07] <Izaya> if you have errors, evidently you don't do enough of it
L70[05:52:18] <The_Stargazer> doesn't print an error
L71[05:52:30] <The_Stargazer> I debug print on every operation
L72[05:52:51] <The_Stargazer> open logfile? print. create thread? print. read from socket? print.
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L74[05:59:59] <The_Stargazer> ok so it doesnt even get to sending the message
L75[06:06:13] <The_Stargazer> `attempt to index a nil value (field '?')` tf does this mean
L76[06:06:17] <The_Stargazer> i dont use `?` anywhere
L77[06:06:47] <Izaya> most likely that you're trying to index by nil
L78[06:06:56] <fingercomp> you define `remsec_data` on line 65
L79[06:07:09] <fingercomp> but you access it earlier, in all logging functions
L80[06:07:25] <The_Stargazer> but I don't call it before defining
L81[06:07:28] <The_Stargazer> so it should be fine?
L82[06:07:43] <fingercomp> Lua is not JavaScript
L83[06:08:54] <fingercomp> I mean that Lua doesn't hoist variables
L84[06:09:00] <The_Stargazer> the function doesnt error when I define it
L85[06:09:06] <Vexatos> well yea
L86[06:09:16] <fingercomp> a function only captures variables defined before it
L87[06:09:18] <Vexatos> because Lua doesn't care what's inside the function until it's called
L88[06:09:30] <The_Stargazer> if you redefine it
L89[06:09:37] <The_Stargazer> will it capture variables it previously didnt?
L90[06:09:47] <The_Stargazer> (if you move it)
L91[06:09:51] <Vexatos> you can just define the variable before the function you know
L92[06:09:59] <fingercomp> if you put a definition earlier, before you define the function body, then it will work
L93[06:10:05] <The_Stargazer> i'm trying that in the lua interpreter
L94[06:10:10] <The_Stargazer> same error
L95[06:10:24] <Vexatos> just put the variable at the start of the program
L96[06:10:33] <The_Stargazer> I can't
L97[06:10:37] <Vexatos> you can
L98[06:10:39] <fingercomp> you don't have to set the variable to anything
L99[06:10:44] <The_Stargazer> it uses a table that is not available at the start.
L100[06:10:48] <fingercomp> just put `local remsec_data` before the function definition
L101[06:10:49] <Vexatos> then
L102[06:10:53] <Vexatos> make it available at the start
L103[06:10:54] <Vexatos> ^ that
L104[06:10:58] <Vexatos> literally move line 65
L105[06:10:59] <Vexatos> to the start
L106[06:11:03] <Vexatos> that's all you need
L107[06:11:27] <The_Stargazer> it has to be after line 36
L108[06:11:37] <The_Stargazer> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ifuxoxusoz
L109[06:11:52] <The_Stargazer> 32 to 36
L110[06:11:52] <Vexatos> how is that related to defining an empty table
L111[06:12:19] <The_Stargazer> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/soyelejozo
L112[06:12:19] <The_Stargazer> if I define the empty table, will it work if I then fill it later?
L113[06:12:25] <Vexatos> ...yes?
L114[06:12:28] <Vexatos> of course?
L115[06:12:29] <The_Stargazer> oh
L116[06:12:36] <The_Stargazer> but then
L117[06:12:39] <Forecaster> no it will consume your soul
L118[06:12:39] <Vexatos> the function only cares about the variable existing
L119[06:12:39] <The_Stargazer> why is it still erroring
L120[06:12:40] <Vexatos> not its contents
L121[06:12:42] <The_Stargazer> in the interpreter
L122[06:13:00] <Vexatos> the interpreter does not like you using "local" which I assume you are doing
L123[06:13:07] <The_Stargazer> Nope
L124[06:13:24] <The_Stargazer> nothing's local
L125[06:13:29] <Vexatos> you define the variable, THEN the function, then you can fill in the table
L126[06:13:33] <Vexatos> then you can call the function
L127[06:13:45] <The_Stargazer> I'm confused http://tinyurl.com/y6c8owjk
L128[06:13:48] <The_Stargazer> The table is filled
L129[06:13:51] <The_Stargazer> But it still errors
L130[06:14:04] <Vexatos> uh
L131[06:14:07] <Vexatos> what is send
L132[06:14:18] <Vexatos> oh
L133[06:15:02] <Vexatos> you sure you defined the function after you made the table :I
L134[06:15:21] <Vexatos> and the clients table exists too, and all the other stuff in send
L135[06:15:35] <SquidDev> clients[client] is probably nil
L136[06:15:43] <fingercomp> `clients` is `nil`
L137[06:15:44] <The_Stargazer> yes, it is. I just realized.
L138[06:16:16] <The_Stargazer> what.
L139[06:16:18] <The_Stargazer> it won't fill..
L140[06:16:27] <The_Stargazer> http://tinyurl.com/y36w98yu
L141[06:16:48] <Vexatos> >GERTI
L142[06:16:50] <Vexatos> I'm out
L143[06:16:57] <The_Stargazer> ?
L144[06:17:14] <fingercomp> `openSocket` probably returns `nil`
L145[06:17:27] <The_Stargazer> yep.
L146[06:17:33] <The_Stargazer> (which, it shouldn't)
L147[06:17:46] <Izaya> (what a surprise)
L148[06:19:45] <Izaya> do consider checking this with a print()
L149[06:19:57] <The_Stargazer> im stupid
L150[06:20:05] <The_Stargazer> im tryna open a socket to myself
L151[06:21:01] * Lizzy slow claps
L152[06:23:06] <The_Stargazer> okay `send()` works now
L153[06:23:10] <The_Stargazer> in the interpreter
L154[06:23:14] <The_Stargazer> now, to test it in the program
L155[06:25:28] <The_Stargazer> NOPE.
L156[06:32:42] <Forecaster> https://imgur.com/gallery/qUhMIa9
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L162[06:51:07] <Forecaster> huh
L163[06:51:15] <Forecaster> I can't believe my Runescape account still exists
L164[06:54:15] <Vexatos> your run escape account?
L165[06:54:29] <Forecaster> yes
L166[06:55:15] <Forecaster> the reason is this video https://youtu.be/-j_lbNEZ0do
L167[06:55:16] <MichiBot> The Short Life of the Ridiculous Runescape Lawsuit - Part 1 | length: 20m 3s | Likes: 52 Dislikes: 0 Views: 380 | by Lawful Masses with Leonard French | Published On 27/7/2019
L168[06:55:36] <Forecaster> someone wrote letters to a court in some kind of marker...
L169[06:55:37] <Forecaster> by hand
L170[06:55:56] <Forecaster> about being banned/muted in Runescape
L171[07:09:54] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L172[07:09:54] <MichiBot> Voldemort! CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 4 hours, 24 minutes and 35 seconds (By 1 hour, 39 minutes and 57 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L173[07:09:55] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 6 hours, 4 minutes and 33 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00835 (0.00167 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L174[07:44:49] <The_Stargazer> bug testing is fun
L175[07:44:56] <The_Stargazer> (when it's not your own code)
L176[07:45:56] <NotBob> obv
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L178[08:25:57] <Soular> hello guys
L179[08:26:13] <The_Stargazer> Hi.
L180[08:26:49] <Soular> Can someone help? Seems like OC makes a lot of lag, heres profiling log:
L181[08:26:57] <Soular> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/rejageziqo
L182[08:27:20] <Soular> These 4 threads raise exponentially by time
L183[08:27:51] <Soular> 100-200 at server start, and 30000-40000 after 1-2 hrs of uptime
L184[08:29:18] <AmandaC> Those threads are responsible for running the user's computers, they share the load of the computers. Someone probably has a lot of them going at once, and it goes up because they're getting loaded in to run
L185[08:29:28] <NotBob> how many computers
L186[08:29:30] <NotBob> do you run
L187[08:29:53] <Soular> I dont really know how much of them are running
L188[08:30:10] <Soular> Any way to know that maybe?
L189[08:30:18] <Soular> find out*
L190[08:30:23] <NotBob> you can't really fight quantity, OC isn't particaularly laggy
L191[08:30:27] <NotBob> well worldedit or idk
L192[08:31:01] <Soular> May persistence disabling help?
L193[08:31:16] <Forecaster> I doubt it
L194[08:31:30] <Forecaster> that just makes the computers restart when loaded if on
L195[08:31:37] <Forecaster> instead of continuing from where they were
L196[08:31:49] <Soular> thing is, that every world has 20.00 tps
L197[08:31:54] <Soular> but overall tps is 2-3
L198[08:39:25] <Lizzy> unless you're on a dual core system, i'd say something more in-world is causing the lag (since the main world/server thread is at 16k or so whereas the OC threads are only at around 4k each
L199[08:58:15] <Forecaster> ....
L200[08:58:37] <Forecaster> I hate how starbound can lag in singleplayer but enemies still get to move...
L201[08:58:42] <Forecaster> -_-
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L203[09:26:51] <AmandaC> H... Has ssomebody been giving him old ones? https://nc.ddna.co/s/Z7cAN5oqbTHZ8mD
L204[09:50:05] <The_Stargazer> I'm back again with Network Problems!
L205[09:50:05] <The_Stargazer> If I have "my" laptop connected to mobile hotspot, and my NAS connected to usb tethering, will they both be on the same network? The IP of the NAS is `192.168.42.187`, and I can access it on the phone, but NOT on the laptop.
L206[09:58:52] <Forecaster> what's the laptops ip?
L207[10:00:49] <The_Stargazer> uh
L208[10:01:03] <The_Stargazer> 192.168.43.17
L209[10:01:11] <Forecaster> then that's why
L210[10:01:27] <The_Stargazer> How do I make it so the NAS and laptop can communicate
L211[10:01:28] <Forecaster> the 43 needs to be a 42
L212[10:01:32] <Forecaster> it's on a different subnet
L213[10:01:41] <The_Stargazer> how do I change the subnet
L214[10:01:49] <Forecaster> set it's ip address
L215[10:01:52] <The_Stargazer> how?
L216[10:02:02] <Forecaster> Google it.
L217[10:02:10] <The_Stargazer> should I change the laptop's subnet or the NAS' subnet?
L218[10:03:54] <The_Stargazer> do I set a static ip address @Forecaster? is that what I need to do?
L219[10:05:35] <Izaya> I mean, if you change the subnet on the device rather than the "router" you'll no longer be able to talk to the router
L220[10:06:36] <Lizzy> ^
L221[10:06:48] <Izaya> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Alibaba-RISC-V-16-Core-2.5GHz
L222[10:07:08] <The_Stargazer> I don't have a router tho
L223[10:07:15] <Izaya> yes you do
L224[10:07:21] <The_Stargazer> Well not a proper one
L225[10:07:21] <Lizzy> your phone is the router in your current setup
L226[10:07:25] <Izaya> ^
L227[10:07:39] <The_Stargazer> So how do I go about allowing laptop <-> NAS communication
L228[10:07:46] <Lizzy> try asking google
L229[10:08:03] <The_Stargazer> I have
L230[10:08:11] <Lizzy> or, y'know. spend like $1 or two and just get a short ethernet cable
L231[10:08:55] <The_Stargazer> well it's like 3 am and I'd like to get this done soon
L232[10:09:10] <The_Stargazer> can't exactly pop down to bunnings at 3 in the morning
L233[10:09:22] <Izaya> pretty sure they're 24h actually
L234[10:09:27] <The_Stargazer> also: actually $4
L235[10:09:31] <Lizzy> from memory, you've been having this issue for the past two days or so, and someone did suggest ethernet in the past
L236[10:09:54] <The_Stargazer> Izaya: nope http://tinyurl.com/y5qrk75v
L237[10:10:19] <Izaya> no midnight woodwork projects for you, then
L238[10:11:00] <Izaya> at any rate
L239[10:11:10] <AmandaC> Izaya: are you the annoying neighbor who's runnning their lathe at 3am?
L240[10:11:16] <Izaya> AmandaC: worse
L241[10:11:33] <Izaya> I'm the annoying neighbor revving the shit out of their bike at 3AM
L242[10:11:41] <AmandaC> scandalous
L243[10:11:53] <Izaya> an ethernet cable so you can bridge phone -> laptop -> desktop will solve your subnet problems
L244[10:12:21] <Izaya> I would suggest enabling IP forwarding on the phone but you seem to already be doing that, unless NAT works without enabling it.
L245[10:12:32] <The_Stargazer> ip forwarding?
L246[10:12:40] <Izaya> Also Android would likely disagree with you doing anything mildly useful.
L247[10:12:47] <The_Stargazer> also the ethernet cable thing is a no go anyway, my mother isn't keen on that idea :I
L248[10:13:03] <The_Stargazer> and of course she wants the person who gave me the desktop to sort it out
L249[10:13:06] <AmandaC> Then youy're SOL
L250[10:13:08] <Lizzy> well, then there's not many other things we can suggest
L251[10:13:18] <The_Stargazer> (instead of just going to bunnings and getting a cable)
L252[10:13:25] <Izaya> sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
L253[10:13:28] <Izaya> on the phone
L254[10:13:32] <The_Stargazer> uhhh
L255[10:13:34] <The_Stargazer> where do I input that
L256[10:13:39] <Izaya> a root shell
L257[10:13:40] <The_Stargazer> does it have to be rooted?
L258[10:13:40] <Lizzy> Izaya, remember that not everyone has rooted devices
L259[10:13:52] <Izaya> Lizzy: too many people don't own their devices
L260[10:13:53] <The_Stargazer> my mother does not want me to root her phone at all
L261[10:13:54] <AmandaC> http://www.poorlydrawnlines.com/comic/mad/
L262[10:14:13] <Lizzy> so wait, you're using your mum's phone?
L263[10:14:25] <The_Stargazer> yes.
L264[10:14:30] <The_Stargazer> i don't have a phone.
L265[10:15:02] <AmandaC> TIL middle click in Starbound is the same as an 'e' press
L266[10:15:12] <Forecaster> just connect the NAS to the laptop.
L267[10:15:14] <Izaya> alternative to an ethernet cable is a wifi card
L268[10:15:21] <Izaya> which will be several times the cost
L269[10:15:24] <Izaya> so have fun I guess
L270[10:15:33] <The_Stargazer> @Forecaster how
L271[10:15:40] <Izaya> you plug it in
L272[10:15:40] <Forecaster> with
L273[10:15:40] <Forecaster> a
L274[10:15:41] <Forecaster> cable
L275[10:15:44] <The_Stargazer> i
L276[10:15:45] <The_Stargazer> dont
L277[10:15:47] <The_Stargazer> have
L278[10:15:48] <The_Stargazer> one
L279[10:15:54] <The_Stargazer> no ethernet cables here
L280[10:16:02] <Forecaster> I guess the NAS is just sitting there magically connected to something then
L281[10:16:06] <The_Stargazer> The phone
L282[10:16:11] <The_Stargazer> It's tethered to the phone
L283[10:16:14] <The_Stargazer> via usb tethering
L284[10:16:31] <Lizzy> something like https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-WN823N-Wireless-Supports-10-9-10-13/dp/B0088TKTY2/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=wifi+usb+dongle&qid=1564240538&s=gateway&sr=8-4 will allow you to also have your "nas" connected to the phone hotspot
L285[10:16:33] <The_Stargazer> Oh, and if you want to be technical a power lead, VGA cable, and keyboard
L286[10:16:45] <The_Stargazer> >amazon
L287[10:16:45] <The_Stargazer> I don't have a credit card
L288[10:16:57] <Izaya> so pay someone to let you use theirs
L289[10:17:11] <AmandaC> Remember, they're probably like, 12
L290[10:17:11] <Lizzy> i wasn't suggesting you _actually_ use amazon, just something that your local tech store _might_ have
L291[10:17:20] <The_Stargazer> I've seen those things
L292[10:17:37] <The_Stargazer> in warehouse stationary
L293[10:18:05] <The_Stargazer> is it possible to change the NAS' or the laptop's subnet to 42 (laptop) or 43 (NAS)?
L294[10:18:12] <Lizzy> you can
L295[10:18:18] <The_Stargazer> Great
L296[10:18:21] <Izaya> the phone has them separated presumably intentionally
L297[10:18:22] <Lizzy> but it wont work how you want it to
L298[10:18:29] <The_Stargazer> what'll it do then
L299[10:18:30] <Izaya> good luck convincing it to do otherwise
L300[10:18:44] <Lizzy> they just wont communicate at all
L301[10:19:05] <Lizzy> since the phone is expecting 42 for the wifi and 43 for the usb
L302[10:19:14] <Lizzy> and you're wanting to go through the phone
L303[10:19:19] <Lizzy> it'll just ignore it
L304[10:20:14] <Forecaster> why can't you connect it to the laptop via usb
L305[10:20:42] <The_Stargazer> the NAS?
L306[10:20:44] <The_Stargazer> or the phone?
L307[10:20:44] <Lizzy> presumably, like most phones, it only has 1 usb cable
L308[10:20:49] <The_Stargazer> ^
L309[10:20:58] <Forecaster> the NAS...
L310[10:21:02] <The_Stargazer> wait, what
L311[10:21:07] <The_Stargazer> connect the NAS to the laptop?
L312[10:21:09] <The_Stargazer> via USB?
L313[10:21:28] <The_Stargazer> how in the heck
L314[10:21:29] <Forecaster> yes...
L315[10:21:36] <The_Stargazer> how?!
L316[10:21:54] <The_Stargazer> all my USB cables are microUSB cables
L317[10:21:59] <Lizzy> some NAS units also have usb for local attachment
L318[10:22:12] <Forecaster> I presume that's what he's using to connect it to the phone...
L319[10:22:15] <The_Stargazer> it's not an actual NAS
L320[10:22:18] <Izaya> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_USB
L321[10:22:21] <The_Stargazer> it's just an old desktop
L322[10:22:22] <Forecaster> then why are you calling it that
L323[10:22:25] <The_Stargazer> because
L324[10:22:26] <The_Stargazer> OMV
L325[10:22:34] <The_Stargazer> it's a NAS desktop running OMV
L326[10:22:40] <The_Stargazer> so it's technically a NAS
L327[10:22:42] <Izaya> so it's a desktop running OMV
L328[10:22:55] <The_Stargazer> yes.
L329[10:23:12] <Izaya> it's function is network attached storage but does that imply the device itself is a Network Attached Storage device?
L330[10:23:15] <Izaya> truly a question for the ages
L331[10:25:38] <Temia> aahhh
L332[10:25:52] <Lizzy> but yeah, short of either an ethernet cable or cheap wifi dongle, you don't have any other options
L333[10:25:53] <The_Stargazer> I have SSH into the phone; does that help any
L334[10:25:54] <Temia> Turning on the fan after getting sweaty just trying to fix it back up after it choked is such a nice feeling
L335[10:26:21] <Lizzy> not really
L336[10:26:45] <Izaya> that reminds me I need to look into repairing my fan
L337[10:26:53] <Izaya> if I hit it it works for an hour or so but then it stops again
L338[10:26:56] <Izaya> probably not sustainable
L339[10:28:14] <Forecaster> huh, apparently the main quest of starbound progresses across all saves
L340[10:28:34] <Temia> The quests themselves are character-bound, but the tangible effects are universe-based
L341[10:28:59] <Temia> You could totally dive headfirst through the ark gate in level 1 gear without even saying so much as a hi to Esther
L342[10:29:15] <Temia> Your odds of survival are minimal, but you can
L343[10:29:42] * Lizzy isn't sure if she's ever gotten throught the first portal gate thing
L344[10:29:47] <Temia> If you feel like evening your odds, you can totally get that broken broadsword fixed before you go through
L345[10:29:57] <Temia> But you're still on a suicide mission
L346[10:30:16] <Forecaster> the furthest I've gotten is the first two orbs
L347[10:30:47] <The_Stargazer> hmm, there is another option
L348[10:32:44] <The_Stargazer> (use hamachi)
L349[10:32:53] <Temia> also lghfglfhg
L350[10:32:54] <Temia> help I'm gay
L351[10:33:07] <Izaya> >talk to the internet to get routing between two devices 2m apart
L352[10:33:08] <Temia> I held my shirt open before my fan to enjoy the air on my sweaty skin
L353[10:33:09] <Izaya> nice
L354[10:33:21] <Temia> And I immediately imagined my hylotl Shinobu doing the same in a tank top and shorts, showing off her cute white belly
L355[10:33:34] * Lizzy gives Temia a rainbow
L356[10:33:34] * Temia facedesk
L357[10:33:36] <Temia> Lizzyyyy
L358[10:33:40] <Izaya> Temia: don't worry half the people here are
L359[10:33:44] <Temia> I mean yeah
L360[10:33:58] <Temia> But girls tho
L361[10:34:02] <Lizzy> yis
L362[10:34:04] <Temia> Why are girls so cutge
L363[10:34:07] <Temia> why am I too gay to type
L364[10:34:18] * Lizzy hmms
L365[10:34:32] * Lizzy diagnoses Temia with The Big Gay:tm:
L366[10:34:48] <Temia> dgjdsghd
L367[10:34:54] <Temia> SOMEONE ELSE GAVE ME THAT DIAGNOSIS TOO
L368[10:35:01] <CompanionCube> Izaya: today on the 'fuck you' list: android q!
L369[10:35:01] <Temia> ;A;
L370[10:35:07] <Izaya> CompanionCube: do tell?
L371[10:35:08] <Forecaster> well, you've got a second opinion then
L372[10:35:11] <CompanionCube> not that i have an android q devics
L373[10:35:11] <Forecaster> that makes it true right
L374[10:35:51] <CompanionCube> Izaya: https://github.com/termux/termux-app/issues/1072 i noticed this while looking at termux bugs
L375[10:35:52] <MichiBot> Title: No more exec from data folder on targetAPI >= Android Q | Posted by: n0n3m4 | Posted: Mon Mar 18 09:46:52 CDT 2019 | Status: open
L376[10:36:03] <Izaya> excellent
L377[10:36:09] <Izaya> >Google continues the war on its users
L378[10:37:28] <CompanionCube> it's a 'rip termux
L379[10:37:31] <CompanionCube> also
L380[10:37:49] <CompanionCube> that is not what w^x means, google.
L381[10:43:45] <simon816> n-gate++
L382[10:43:49] <CompanionCube> Izaya: also it's not like there's any non-shit competitors in the tablet space
L383[10:44:05] <CompanionCube> %inv add a webshit
L384[10:44:05] * MichiBot summons 'a webshit' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L385[10:44:57] <asie> %drink random
L386[10:44:58] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly adamantium potion (New!). asie grows whiskers for 8 moons.
L387[10:44:59] <asie> (New!)
L388[10:45:16] <Temia> Hi Asie
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L390[10:45:25] * CompanionCube tickles asie's new whiskers
L391[10:45:36] <The_Stargazer> hamachi why are you hanging .-.
L392[10:46:06] <CompanionCube> hamachi is still a thing?
L393[10:46:12] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/BdXC9cP.png
L394[10:46:13] <Lizzy> aparrently
L395[10:46:35] <Izaya> so I changed the PsychOS shell to spawn executed files as their own process now
L396[10:47:25] <The_Stargazer> CompanionCube: yes, it is
L397[10:48:16] <The_Stargazer> gah
L398[10:48:21] <The_Stargazer> what do you mean it's not started
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L400[10:55:11] <The_Stargazer> argh this is stupid /tableflip
L401[10:55:14] <The_Stargazer> fuck
L402[10:55:18] <The_Stargazer> this is stupid (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
L403[10:55:21] <The_Stargazer> ffs
L404[10:55:22] <Lizzy> yup
L405[10:55:38] <The_Stargazer> ofc I can't take the easy option and buy a cable
L406[10:55:48] <The_Stargazer> because my mother won't let me :I
L407[10:57:03] <The_Stargazer> screw this, I'll just wait until I can get a cable
L408[10:57:23] <Forecaster> %flip
L409[10:57:23] <MichiBot> Forecaster: (╯°□°)╯┻━┻
L410[10:57:36] <Forecaster> %flip The_Stargazer
L411[10:57:36] <MichiBot> Forecaster: (╯°□°)╯ɹǝzɐɓɹɐʇS‾ǝɥ⊥
L412[10:57:44] <Ariri> %unflip
L413[10:57:44] <MichiBot> Ariri: ┳━┳ ノ(° -°ノ)
L414[10:57:53] <The_Stargazer> %flip Forecaster
L415[10:57:53] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer: (╯°□°)╯ɹǝʇsɐɔǝɹoℲ
L416[10:57:55] <Ariri> Orderly
L417[10:58:05] <AmandaC> Temia: Don't worry, you're not gay, but your girlfriend is! :P
L418[10:58:20] <Temia> No, I am pretty hecking gay
L419[10:58:24] <AmandaC> hehe
L420[10:58:25] <Ariri> Ahaha
L421[10:58:27] * AmandaC cuddles Temia
L422[10:58:30] * Temia hugs c:
L423[10:58:42] <Ariri> %drink random
L424[10:58:42] <MichiBot> You drink a salty yellow potion (New!). Ariri turns into a emerald goat robot boy until they see a star fall.
L425[10:58:44] * Lizzy joins in the Temia-AmandaC hug
L426[10:59:01] <Ariri> Not gonna see a star in this much light pollution so lol
L427[10:59:32] <The_Stargazer> I will now proceed to power off the OMV nas-desktop-thingy, and reconnect the cables to the laptop
L428[10:59:33] <Ariri> Kawaii desu
L429[10:59:41] <The_Stargazer> Because I can't be arsed to deal with this at 4 am
L430[11:00:06] <The_Stargazer> oh yeah for some reason the PC beeps
L431[11:00:16] <The_Stargazer> neaat
L432[11:00:18] <The_Stargazer> neat [Edited]
L433[11:00:20] <Lizzy> they do that
L434[11:00:31] <The_Stargazer> ive never heard one actually beep
L435[11:00:44] <Ariri> Beep
L436[11:00:50] <The_Stargazer> Beep indee
L437[11:00:53] <The_Stargazer> ..d
L438[11:00:59] <Ariri> Boop
L439[11:01:02] <Ariri> %beepboop
L440[11:01:19] <Ariri> Beep: you don’t have a cpu
L441[11:01:31] <The_Stargazer> how it do that tho
L442[11:01:39] <Forecaster> magic
L443[11:01:47] <Forecaster> and electricity
L444[11:01:52] <The_Stargazer> motherboards probs got a tiny cpu
L445[11:01:54] <Ariri> Thinking rocks
L446[11:01:55] <The_Stargazer> or something
L447[11:02:00] <AmandaC> Piezoelectrc speaker
L448[11:02:04] <Ariri> ^
L449[11:02:06] <Forecaster> cpus don't beep
L450[11:02:08] <Forecaster> speakers beep
L451[11:02:11] <The_Stargazer> Piezowhat speaker
L452[11:02:13] <Ariri> It’s a speaker on the mb
L453[11:02:37] <Ariri> %search wiki piezoelectric
L454[11:02:38] <MichiBot> Ariri: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectricity - *Piezoelectricity - Wikipedia*: "Piezoelectricity is the electric charge that accumulates in certain solid materials in response to applied mechanical stress. The word piezoelectricity means ..."
L455[11:02:48] <The_Stargazer> afs (away from screen) reconnecting laptop to screen + keyboard + mouse
L456[11:02:48] <Ariri> There
L457[11:05:57] <AmandaC> Temia: you know what I wish existed as a starbound mod? A mod that when you beam back up from a planet for the first time, you have to fill out an "After action report"-type thing, where you have a place in-game, shared with other players, to put info about the planet. Like "Contains Hyotl village"
L458[11:06:26] <Temia> That'd be interesting
L459[11:06:38] <Temia> Possibly as part of a new protectorate initiative?
L460[11:06:56] <AmandaC> I'm not sure it'd even be possible though
L461[11:07:07] <AmandaC> ISTR the starbound scripting stuff is severly limited
L462[11:07:14] <AmandaC> but I've not looked that hard since pre-beta
L463[11:07:22] <AmandaC> s/beta/1.0/
L464[11:07:22] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> but I've not looked that hard since pre-1.0
L465[11:11:58] <Temia> There are potential hooks for it.
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L470[11:45:02] <Forecaster> %sip random
L471[11:45:03] <MichiBot> You drink a shimmering unobtanium potion (New!). A lava flies past that vaguely resembles someone Forecaster knows.
L472[11:45:13] <Forecaster> heh
L473[11:48:31] <Lizzy> %tonk
L474[11:48:31] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 6 hours, 4 minutes and 33 seconds this time. 4 hours, 38 minutes and 37 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 25 minutes and 56 seconds!
L475[11:48:36] <Lizzy> :<
L476[11:49:28] <Forecaster> dangit lizzy
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L486[13:35:04] <NotBob> 10000 PINGS YAY
L487[13:41:59] <marcin212> @Vexatos Could you add KocproZ to https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Starchasers-Programs ?
L488[13:42:56] <Vexatos> @marcin212 you should be able to do that, no?
L489[13:44:54] <Vexatos> in https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Starchasers-Programs/settings/collaboration
L490[13:46:51] <marcin212> It works. Thanks!
L491[13:46:58] <Vexatos> but I did nothing D:
L492[13:47:09] <Forecaster> you said stuff
L493[13:47:21] <Vexatos> did I now
L494[13:47:23] <Vexatos> do you have prove
L495[13:47:28] <Vexatos> perhaps I was silent the whole time
L496[13:47:49] <Forecaster> well I heard it
L497[13:48:21] <AmandaC> Temia: TIL you can teleport to the racial flags. I knew there was a purpose to them, but didn't remember until I looked it up on a whim,
L498[13:48:31] <Forecaster> heh
L499[14:50:51] <AdorableCatgirl> wait
L500[14:50:56] <AdorableCatgirl> someone had never heard a PC beep?
L501[14:51:06] <AdorableCatgirl> my old PC would always give a single beep on a good boot
L502[14:51:16] <Mimiru> Welcome to the world of tomorrow.
L503[14:51:37] <Mimiru> Hell most boards don't ship with the little "speakers" any more.
L504[14:51:48] <Mimiru> I had to grab one from my old board to get diag beeps on my new one
L505[14:51:57] <CompanionCube> i know :(
L506[14:52:04] <CompanionCube> i didn't bother
L507[14:52:14] <CompanionCube> so now the only sound when booting is that of my CD/DVD drive
L508[14:53:21] <AdorableCatgirl> yeah my new mobo doesn't have a speaker
L509[14:53:25] <AdorableCatgirl> or a disc drive
L510[14:53:32] <AdorableCatgirl> all i hear is my 3TB drive spinning up
L511[14:55:24] <NotBob> I have the beep beep
L512[14:55:30] <NotBob> 2012 :GWlulurdMmmYea:
L513[14:55:50] <NotBob> But now there are boards with digit panels things
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L515[15:40:48] <Forecaster> huh http://tinyurl.com/y5j4v74j
L516[15:41:20] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/yxptuujk
L517[15:42:40] <Temia> Oh boy
L518[15:42:58] <Temia> Forecaster found Beautiful Attempt
L519[15:43:00] <Temia> This is gonna be good
L520[15:44:39] <Forecaster> I had to rush out of there because I was starving
L521[16:00:49] <AdorableCatgirl> new zorya module naming scheme http://tinyurl.com/y3uzvuho
L522[16:01:41] <NotBob> 0404_notfound
L523[16:02:07] <AmandaC> wait, what?
L524[16:02:45] <AmandaC> There's a pseudo-dating-sim in the game? Or is that added by FU
L525[16:03:16] <AdorableCatgirl> oh yeah
L526[16:03:25] <AdorableCatgirl> i need to add a way to boot from removable media
L527[16:03:32] <Forecaster> I don't have FU
L528[16:05:27] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways, new naming scheme is to fit in ProximaFS's 12.4 file name format
L529[16:05:40] <AdorableCatgirl> and for better loading order
L530[16:58:20] <AdorableCatgirl> well
L531[16:58:25] <AdorableCatgirl> proximafs is coming along
L532[16:58:41] <AdorableCatgirl> with read and write capabilities
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L534[17:02:40] <AdorableCatgirl> the J A N K will be done soon
L535[17:09:44] <NotBob> yes
L536[17:10:16] <AdorableCatgirl> yea, currently have sector allocation/deallocation/reserving done
L537[17:14:14] <AdorableCatgirl> also, toptier shit here
L538[17:15:07] <AdorableCatgirl> a sector can get dealloc'd and still be counted as part of a file unless the preceding sector's link is set to 0
L539[17:15:30] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways
L540[17:16:02] <AdorableCatgirl> doing such a thing will ofc lead to undefined behavior
L541[17:24:08] <AmandaC> %8ball computer?
L542[17:24:08] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Ask again later
L543[17:24:21] * AmandaC decides that means "put the computer away and veg out"
L544[17:24:52] * AmandaC cuddles up against Temia, loads up this story with the tag "Romance" titled "Medusa and the Blind Woman" ( https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/21063/medusa-and-the-blind-woman )
L545[17:25:40] <AdorableCatgirl> my favorite thing so far is `pfs:nuke_sector(sector)`
L546[17:35:20] <Temia> Ooh
L547[17:38:41] <AdorableCatgirl> i mean all it does is write a sector of nulls but w/e
L548[17:53:48] <Forecaster> %tonkout
L549[17:53:49] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 6 hours, 4 minutes and 33 seconds (By 43 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L550[17:53:50] <MichiBot> Forecaster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.732
L551[17:54:02] <Forecaster> Whoof
L552[17:54:08] <Forecaster> That was a close call
L553[17:54:10] <asie> %tonk
L554[17:54:11] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! asie! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 22 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L555[17:54:12] <MichiBot> asie's new record is 22 seconds! asie also gained 0.00001 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L556[18:02:37] <AdorableCatgirl> %tonkout
L557[18:02:37] <MichiBot> Potzblitz! AdorableCatgirl! You beat asie's previous record of 22 seconds (By 8 minutes and 3 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L558[18:02:38] <MichiBot> AdorableCatgirl has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0 tonk points! Current score: 0.00075
L559[18:02:41] <AdorableCatgirl> kek
L560[18:03:03] <AdorableCatgirl> %tonk
L561[18:03:03] <MichiBot> Dagnabbit! AdorableCatgirl! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 26 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L562[18:03:04] <MichiBot> AdorableCatgirl's new record is 26 seconds! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00001 x 1 = 0.00001)
L563[18:03:10] <AdorableCatgirl> :^)
L564[18:09:18] <asie> %tonk
L565[18:09:18] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! asie! You beat AdorableCatgirl's previous record of 26 seconds (By 5 minutes and 49 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L566[18:09:19] <MichiBot> asie's new record is 6 minutes and 15 seconds! asie also gained 0.0001 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L567[18:09:51] <Paradoxical> %tonk
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L569[18:10:45] <ParadoxicalIRC> %tonk
L570[18:10:45] <MichiBot> I'm sorry ParadoxicalIRC, you were not able to beat asie's record of 6 minutes and 15 seconds this time. 1 minute and 27 seconds were wasted! Missed by 4 minutes and 48 seconds!
L571[18:10:51] <ParadoxicalIRC> oof
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L574[18:17:26] <AdorableCatgirl> %tonk
L575[18:17:26] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! AdorableCatgirl! You beat asie's previous record of 6 minutes and 15 seconds (By 25 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L576[18:17:27] <MichiBot> AdorableCatgirl's new record is 6 minutes and 40 seconds! AdorableCatgirl also gained 0.00001 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L578[19:05:36] <AmandaC> %8ball rain time?
L579[19:05:36] <MichiBot> AmandaC: [ The Bowling ball doesn't answer ]
L580[19:16:00] <AmandaC> Temia: I'm going to be so pissed if the "romance" twg takes effect by Hermes becoming a regular character and the blond woman dates him. (Royal road doesn't have a LGBT tag)
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L582[19:38:45] <AmandaC> %8ball re-computer to update?
L583[19:38:45] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Reply hazy, try again
L584[19:41:52] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
L585[19:41:53] <MichiBot> Consarn it! The_Stargazer! You beat AdorableCatgirl's previous record of 6 minutes and 40 seconds (By 1 hour, 17 minutes and 45 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L586[19:41:54] <MichiBot> The_Stargazer's new record is 1 hour, 24 minutes and 26 seconds! The_Stargazer also gained 0.0013 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L587[19:48:18] <The_Stargazer> %tonkout
L588[19:48:19] <MichiBot> I'm sorry The_Stargazer, you were not able to beat The_Stargazer's record of 1 hour, 24 minutes and 26 seconds this time. 6 minutes and 26 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 17 minutes and 59 seconds!
L589[19:48:23] <The_Stargazer> what
L590[20:02:23] <Izaya> >OpenRCT2 builds Discord-RPC
L591[20:02:24] <Izaya> disgusting
L592[20:02:30] <Izaya> good thing I have it blocked at the firewall
L593[20:02:42] <The_Stargazer> ?
L594[20:03:57] <Izaya> presumablu it's for in-game Discord integration
L595[20:04:07] <Izaya> which is gonna be funny when Discord inevitably folds but whatever
L596[20:05:13] <The_Stargazer> what is OpenRCT2?
L597[20:05:37] <The_Stargazer> also
L598[20:05:44] <The_Stargazer> can you `pcall` a `file:write()` call?
L599[20:05:45] <Izaya> Open RollerCoaster Tycoon 2
L600[20:05:52] <The_Stargazer> ah
L601[20:06:06] <Izaya> yes but it's kinda jank
L602[20:06:11] <The_Stargazer> but it works?
L603[20:06:23] <The_Stargazer> I want to check if my writes actually work
L604[20:06:26] <The_Stargazer> and if they don't
L605[20:06:27] <Izaya> when you call a table:function() it passes the table as the first param
L606[20:06:34] <The_Stargazer> print an error instead of crashing
L607[20:06:53] <Izaya> so it'd be pcall(file.write, file, params)
L608[20:07:22] <The_Stargazer> so would
L609[20:07:22] <The_Stargazer> `pcall(io.write, file, "message")` be better? would that even work?
L610[20:11:02] <Izaya> Dunno
L611[20:12:30] <The_Stargazer> i'll OCEmu it
L612[20:14:50] <The_Stargazer> nope.
L613[20:16:48] <Izaya> >2019
L614[20:16:52] <Izaya> >not using ocvm
L615[20:17:03] <The_Stargazer> >segfault
L616[20:17:39] <Kodos> %tonk
L617[20:17:40] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Kodos, you were not able to beat The_Stargazer's record of 1 hour, 24 minutes and 26 seconds this time. 29 minutes and 20 seconds were wasted! Missed by 55 minutes and 5 seconds!
L618[20:17:45] <The_Stargazer> HA
L619[20:17:52] <The_Stargazer> I have ruined your plans
L620[20:18:04] <The_Stargazer> (or was that just a blind tonk)
L621[20:18:32] <Izaya> >2019
L622[20:18:33] <Izaya> >not being able to run ocvm
L623[20:18:42] <The_Stargazer> >2019
L624[20:18:42] <The_Stargazer> >1GHz
L625[20:18:57] <The_Stargazer> even
L626[20:18:58] <The_Stargazer> >2017
L627[20:18:58] <The_Stargazer> >1Ghz
L628[20:19:07] <The_Stargazer> as iirc this is a 2017 laptop
L629[20:19:16] <The_Stargazer> running windows 10 **17**03
L630[20:19:27] <The_Stargazer> (I think the first two numbers are the year?)
L631[20:19:41] <Kodos> Windows update version has nothing to do with the manufacturing year of your laptop/desktop
L632[20:19:49] <The_Stargazer> o
L633[20:19:58] <The_Stargazer> well its got a 2016 CPU
L634[20:20:04] <The_Stargazer> so its probably from 2016 or 2017
L635[20:20:18] <The_Stargazer> it's, uh, never been updated
L636[20:20:28] <The_Stargazer> because
L637[20:20:28] <The_Stargazer> >32GB eMMC chip as only drive
L638[20:20:44] <Kodos> Err
L639[20:20:50] <Kodos> What kind of shitty laptop is it
L640[20:20:54] <The_Stargazer> Acer Aspire 1
L641[20:21:05] <Kodos> A tiny netbook?
L642[20:21:10] <The_Stargazer> Yes, basically
L643[20:21:11] <Kodos> I have one, and even it has a drive
L644[20:21:23] <The_Stargazer> The drive is soldered to the board.
L645[20:21:32] <Izaya> 32GB is more than enough for a worthwhile OS
L646[20:21:40] <The_Stargazer> the thing was like $320
L647[20:21:49] <Izaya> so expensive for trash
L648[20:21:59] <Izaya> Consider also: checking if there's space for a 2.5" drive inside
L649[20:22:03] <Kodos> I just put ubuntu server on my AA1 and use WeeChat and nano
L650[20:22:10] <Kodos> And use it to dev while out and about
L651[20:22:54] <The_Stargazer> my mother doesn't want me to open it up (it's her laptop)
L652[20:23:04] <Izaya> Save $100
L653[20:23:07] <Izaya> Buy an X220
L654[20:23:11] <Izaya> Install Linux
L655[20:23:14] <Izaya> Be happy
L656[20:23:20] <The_Stargazer> Yes.
L657[20:23:23] <The_Stargazer> Except
L658[20:23:28] <The_Stargazer> I can't afford $220
L659[20:23:36] <Izaya> I said $100
L660[20:23:40] <The_Stargazer> Oh
L661[20:23:40] <Izaya> Not $220
L662[20:23:43] <The_Stargazer> I thought you meant
L663[20:23:47] <The_Stargazer> Save $100 from $320
L664[20:24:18] <The_Stargazer> But yeah I still can't afford $100
L665[20:24:22] <The_Stargazer> I get $10... a week.
L666[20:24:31] <Izaya> 10 weeks of saving
L667[20:24:40] <The_Stargazer> How would I even buy one anyway
L668[20:24:46] <The_Stargazer> (and what are the specs of the X220)
L669[20:24:55] <Izaya> give someone $100 cash and get them to get it off ebay for you
L670[20:25:05] <The_Stargazer> >ebay
L671[20:25:05] <The_Stargazer> what if scam
L672[20:25:15] <Izaya> that's not how ebay works
L673[20:25:22] <The_Stargazer> its not?
L674[20:25:48] <Izaya> no
L675[20:26:01] <Izaya> if you're dumb enough to not check seller feedback you deserve to be scammed
L676[20:26:10] <Izaya> behold, an X220: https://imgur.com/V96NFZo.png
L677[20:26:59] <Izaya> 1/3 the price and several times older than yours and still kicks the shit out of it
L678[20:27:32] <Izaya> https://nextcloud.shadowkat.net/s/AHHDoa84gk2kaiq
L679[20:29:56] <The_Stargazer> >8GB
L680[20:29:57] <The_Stargazer> >quad-core 3GHz
L681[20:30:00] <The_Stargazer> X220 wins hands down
L682[20:30:49] <Izaya> also has the best keyboard of a laptop built since
L683[20:31:03] <Izaya> and given the keyboard is the most important part of a laptop...
L684[20:31:05] <The_Stargazer> eh
L685[20:31:05] <The_Stargazer> i've got a screen/mouse/keyboard setup
L686[20:32:10] <Izaya> got a dock from my T420 that fits my X220
L687[20:32:16] <The_Stargazer> what's the X220's touchpad like
L688[20:32:22] <Izaya> it's honestly eh
L689[20:32:30] <Izaya> but the touchpad doesn't matter when it has the TrackPoint
L690[20:32:33] <The_Stargazer> touchpads are eh in general
L691[20:32:38] <The_Stargazer> trackpoint?
L692[20:32:47] <Izaya> I swear we've talked about this before
L693[20:32:54] <The_Stargazer> ohh, that little button thingy?
L694[20:32:56] <Izaya> the red thing in the middle of the keyboard that acts as a mouse
L695[20:32:57] <The_Stargazer> on the keyboard?
L696[20:33:07] <The_Stargazer> the laptops at school have em
L697[20:33:13] <Izaya> if I were less lazy I'd set the dock up on the other desk and hook up two extra displays and a mouse up to it but it's not really worth the effort
L698[20:33:15] <The_Stargazer> i find it impossible to use
L699[20:33:26] <Izaya> my condolences
L700[20:33:35] <Izaya> doesn't matter, mice are unnecessary
L701[20:34:31] <The_Stargazer> a friend of a friend of my mother's has an old laptop they might give me
L702[20:34:31] <The_Stargazer> it'd be hilarious if it was an X220
L703[20:34:31] <The_Stargazer> highly unlikely but still
L704[20:35:56] <Izaya> question
L705[20:36:05] <Izaya> do your parents engage in helicopter parenting
L706[20:36:10] <The_Stargazer> nope
L707[20:36:20] <The_Stargazer> parent actually
L708[20:36:36] <Izaya> noted
L709[20:36:40] * Izaya hmms
L710[20:37:28] <The_Stargazer> infact she barely checks what I'm doing *at all*
L711[20:37:36] <Izaya> >Published 23/07/2019
L712[20:37:41] <Izaya> Wonder if it'll be on libgen
L713[20:37:42] <The_Stargazer> i can even have the lounge door closed
L714[20:38:06] <The_Stargazer> ?
L715[20:38:07] <Izaya> oh hey it is
L716[20:38:33] <Izaya> http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=88CA058DE1CBF0D867198D949C98AB54
L717[20:38:41] <Izaya> apparently this book is generating controversy
L718[20:39:42] <The_Stargazer> whats the supposed to be
L719[20:39:50] <The_Stargazer> i see a big rectangle
L720[20:40:24] <Izaya> https://files.catbox.moe/hf1udu.png
L721[20:40:59] <The_Stargazer> I see `catbox.moe` a lot, care to explain what it is?
L722[20:41:17] <Izaya> it's a temporary file storage site
L723[20:41:22] <The_Stargazer> Ah
L724[20:41:23] <Izaya> you upload a file, get a link
L725[20:41:30] <Izaya> you can share that link and for a while it'll be there
L726[20:41:36] <Izaya> but after a while the file gets deleted
L727[20:41:54] <Izaya> depending on space constraints
L728[20:41:55] <The_Stargazer> my cat is deciding to sit on my OMV desktop
L729[20:44:19] <The_Stargazer> ah
L730[20:44:20] <The_Stargazer> I see
L731[20:44:29] <The_Stargazer> so smaller files last longer then?
L732[20:44:36] <Izaya> unsure
L733[20:44:59] <Izaya> in the case of 0x0.st that's the case, but it could also be deleting the oldest files first until it has enough space
L734[20:45:00] <The_Stargazer> but it's good if you just wanna share a file over 8MB on discord I suppose
L735[20:45:23] <Izaya> >Discord
L736[20:45:24] * Izaya vomits
L737[20:45:46] <The_Stargazer> What's with your beef with Discord
L738[20:45:48] * Lizzy needs to set up her 'files' site properly again
L739[20:46:13] <Izaya> it's proprietary siloed webshit that does nothing better than IRC, XMPP, Mumble, TeamSpeak, or really anything else
L740[20:46:45] <The_Stargazer> fair point.
L741[20:46:54] <Izaya> they make it impractical to leave and are, if not presently selling your information, saving it to inflate their value when they inevitably sell off the company to Google, Amazon, Facebook, Apple or Microsoft.
L742[20:47:12] <The_Stargazer> what do you mean "impractical to leave">
L743[20:47:16] <The_Stargazer> ?*
L744[20:47:24] <Izaya> impractical to switch to another service
L745[20:47:41] <The_Stargazer> how so
L746[20:47:47] <Izaya> they provide no good way to export your data, or import it for that matter, there is no easy way to leave a "find me here instead" note, generally, they don't want you leaving
L747[20:48:15] <The_Stargazer> can you do that on IRC? XMPP? Mumble? TeamSpeak?
L748[20:48:29] <Izaya> sure
L749[20:48:37] <Izaya> IRC? Doesn't bother to keep anything.
L750[20:48:56] <Izaya> XMPP? Rip your server-side archives and delete them on the server.
L751[20:49:09] <Izaya> Mumble? It's just voice chat, and your identity is independent of the server.
L752[20:49:17] <Izaya> TS? Haven't used it in about 10 years can't remember.
L753[20:49:31] <The_Stargazer> TS is probably the same as Mumble
L754[20:49:42] <Izaya> I don't know how identity is handled in TS
L755[20:49:45] <The_Stargazer> And what about the "find me here instead" note?
L756[20:49:51] <Lizzy> TS is more-or-less the same as mumble, but you can have the same uuid
L757[20:50:04] <Lizzy> or rather, same identity and then use that elsewhere
L758[20:50:11] <Izaya> Mumble uses client certificates so you can identify the same person on a different server, hence how client-side friends lists work
L759[20:50:12] <Izaya> which is neat
L760[20:50:31] <Lizzy> if people add you to their contacts they'll be able to identify you on other servers and stuff
L761[20:50:58] <Izaya> IRC is less practical about that but I mean, if you want to change servers a) there's no reason you can't use multiple b) you can change your name on the same network anyway
L762[20:51:06] <Izaya> and just like
L763[20:51:21] <Izaya> tell anyone you care about knowing, chances are they're connected to whatever other network you're moving to
L764[20:51:32] <Izaya> if you oper a channel, set the topic or maybe even set up a bridge bot
L765[20:51:45] <Izaya> XMPP? Set a status to say where you are.
L766[20:52:09] <Izaya> Mumble? Again, client-side certs make it easy to identify if it's really you, just tell people, y'know.
L767[20:52:48] <Izaya> Of course, we're ignoring the big one here.
L768[20:52:55] <Izaya> All of these, you can run your own server anyway.
L769[20:54:29] <Izaya> Can't do that with Discord.
L770[20:55:34] * Lizzy curls up next to AmandaC and falls sleep
L771[21:15:52] * AmandaC quietly teaches Lizzy's kittens the latest viral pop song
L772[21:19:17] <AmandaC> ... goddesses above I'm old. All I can think of that fits that description is Britney Spears songs.
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L774[21:29:52] <AmandaC> %8ball one more chapter?
L775[21:29:52] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My reply is no
L776[21:30:03] <AmandaC> %8ball two more chapters?
L777[21:30:03] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My reply is no
L778[21:30:13] <AmandaC> %8ball sleep immediately?
L779[21:30:13] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Signs point to yes
L780[21:30:16] <AmandaC> :(
L781[21:30:19] <AmandaC> Fiiiine
L782[21:30:30] * AmandaC nestles down into the cuddle pile of Temia and Lizzy, dozes
L783[21:30:32] <AmandaC> night nerds
L784[21:30:54] <Izaya> blergh this is harder than I thought
L785[21:31:28] <Izaya> how am I meant to avoid allocating multiple GPUs to one display while using two sources of information
L786[21:31:30] <Izaya> ... unless...
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L788[22:04:12] <Izaya> the PsychOS shell is getting more complicated :|
L789[22:04:20] <Izaya> probably because shell builtins but anyway
L790[22:05:13] <Izaya> cd() is now a thing so yay
L791[22:06:32] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/EtdlBVq.png
L792[22:09:52] <AdorableCatgirl> nice
L793[22:10:20] <Izaya> also you can now statically bind a GPU to a screen
L794[22:10:29] <AdorableCatgirl> hey, could I use PsychOS for a "recovery shell" in Zorya? :P
L795[22:10:41] <Izaya> I mean sure but it uses most of the tmpfs nowadays
L796[22:17:17] <AdorableCatgirl> i mean
L797[22:17:34] <AdorableCatgirl> zorya uses an HDD or FDD anyways
L798[22:18:53] <Izaya> I'm just saying an install is fairly big now
L799[22:19:16] <Izaya> though most of it is unnecessary
L800[22:19:29] <Izaya> you could probably drop 90% of the stuff if you don't want networking
L801[22:19:37] <Izaya> or like
L802[22:19:40] <Izaya> assorted utilities
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L804[22:20:32] <Izaya> a lot of the kernel is optional too
L805[22:32:15] <AdorableCatgirl> ooo
L806[22:32:30] <AdorableCatgirl> i only really need a shell, and it'd have access to a lot of zorya's utilities too
L807[22:32:40] <AdorableCatgirl> but having a faily decent OS for the shell is nice
L808[22:34:09] <Trainfan91> @Z0idburg are u playing qc?
L809[22:34:21] <AdorableCatgirl> as it means i could include some utilities for ease of fixing
L810[22:34:26] <AdorableCatgirl> qc?
L811[22:34:29] <AdorableCatgirl> quake champions?
L812[22:34:34] <Trainfan91> yes
L813[22:34:58] <AdorableCatgirl> ew
L814[22:35:05] <AdorableCatgirl> >not playing Q3R
L815[22:35:08] <AdorableCatgirl> >on the ps2
L816[22:35:13] <AdorableCatgirl> >in 720p
L817[22:35:18] <Trainfan91> i THINK i saw him... lol
L818[22:35:24] <AdorableCatgirl> get destroyed uwu
L819[22:35:58] <AdorableCatgirl> i have UT99 on my PS2
L820[22:36:02] <AdorableCatgirl> tbh
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L824[22:43:12] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways
L825[22:43:22] <AdorableCatgirl> PsychOS is neat
L826[22:45:32] <The_Stargazer> so im thinking of having my logger print a message on every failed write
L827[22:45:41] <The_Stargazer> should it only print once if it fails?
L828[22:45:47] <The_Stargazer> instead of printing on every failure
L829[22:45:54] <The_Stargazer> only print one failure
L830[22:48:53] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: So what all do I need for a minimum boot?
L831[22:49:46] <Izaya> well you can get rid of all the libraries and services
L832[22:50:16] <Izaya> stuff in exec is optional also
L833[22:50:34] <Izaya> I'll get back to you re: kernel modules shortly
L834[22:50:39] <Izaya> Hanging out some washing
L835[22:50:57] <AdorableCatgirl> ah
L836[22:55:27] <Izaya> actually kernel module wise it's pretty tight
L837[22:55:34] <Izaya> I've been moving unnecessary stuff outwards
L838[23:01:18] <AdorableCatgirl> so
L839[23:01:36] <AdorableCatgirl> what's the minimum i can get away with and still have access to things like unarchive and mkarchive
L840[23:01:58] <Izaya> well minitel depends on the event library
L841[23:02:07] <Izaya> but I'm pretty sure everything else just depends on stuff in the kernel
L842[23:02:07] <AdorableCatgirl> actually you know what
L843[23:02:19] <AdorableCatgirl> i could probably make my own utils tbh
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L845[23:10:09] <Izaya> you could probably write a custom kernel module to spawn the shell as part of the kernel
L846[23:10:16] <Izaya> and you could skip having the init module
L847[23:10:30] <AdorableCatgirl> yea
L848[23:10:46] <AdorableCatgirl> currently just playing with PsychOS first to get a better feel for it
L849[23:11:01] <AdorableCatgirl> also forgot to make it boot in Zorya mode so lmao oops
L850[23:11:18] <AdorableCatgirl> it booted in compat mode
L851[23:11:23] <Izaya> todo: move the universal minitel build out and replace it with a PsychOS specific one to reduce space used
L852[23:11:55] <Izaya> so I have a single minitel build that works on OpenOS, PsychOS and KOS NEO but it contains code for all 3 so it's kinda pigfat
L853[23:12:24] <Izaya> nice to have but I'd prefer to just maintain 3 different ones with clearly defined OS-specific code
L854[23:12:38] <Izaya> today's fun (dumb) idea
L855[23:12:49] <Izaya> a program for OpenOS that goes through all Lua files on the system and removes the comments
L856[23:13:10] <AdorableCatgirl> perfect for if you for some reason installed OpenOS in a ProximaFS partition
L857[23:13:35] <Paradoxical> is there any possible way to make a pseudo-component (like make a driver for an unmanaged filesystem that works like a normal component.filesystem and is registered as one)?
L858[23:13:39] <AdorableCatgirl> just remember to run fsck.proximafs (device address)
L859[23:13:51] <Izaya> Paradoxical: yes look into vcomponent
L860[23:13:55] <Izaya> it's on oppm and the forums
L861[23:14:06] <AdorableCatgirl> and zorya has it's own impl
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L863[23:14:10] <ParadoxicalIRC> %tonk
L864[23:14:10] <MichiBot> Dogast! ParadoxicalIRC! You beat The_Stargazer's previous record of 1 hour, 24 minutes and 26 seconds (By 1 hour, 32 minutes and 3 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L865[23:14:11] <MichiBot> ParadoxicalIRC's new record is 2 hours, 56 minutes and 30 seconds! ParadoxicalIRC also gained 0.00306 (0.00153 x 2) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L866[23:14:14] <Paradoxical> yay
L867[23:14:18] <AdorableCatgirl> as long as you download the optional module
L868[23:14:24] <AdorableCatgirl> dunno how fast it is tho
L869[23:14:30] <AdorableCatgirl> also haven't tested it very much
L870[23:14:36] <AdorableCatgirl> i need to make a basic BIOS device
L871[23:14:38] <AdorableCatgirl> for testing
L872[23:14:54] <Paradoxical> probably going to make my own bios as I'm probably going to need some sort of disk or something to load a driver for my filesystem
L873[23:14:56] <Izaya> also todo: the ability for PsychOS to export devices over Minitel
L874[23:14:59] <Paradoxical> unless I can cram it into one bios
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L876[23:16:19] <AdorableCatgirl> also do you not know how Zorya works? @Paradoxical
L877[23:16:23] <AdorableCatgirl> that's like
L878[23:16:27] <AdorableCatgirl> Zorya's main deal
L879[23:16:29] <Paradoxical> ah
L880[23:16:37] <AdorableCatgirl> is being a super modular BIOS/Bootloader
L881[23:16:44] <Paradoxical> I'll look into it
L882[23:16:52] <AdorableCatgirl> https://github.com/Adorable-Catgirl/Zorya-BIOS
L883[23:17:01] <AdorableCatgirl> not to shill my own bios or anything but
L884[23:17:07] <AdorableCatgirl> it's the main meme of it
L885[23:17:28] <Paradoxical> I'll probably end up making my own module for it eventually
L886[23:17:31] <AdorableCatgirl> thus why i could so easily integrate PsychOS into it
L887[23:17:45] <AdorableCatgirl> also Zorya v2 will keep compatibility with Zorya v1.x modules <3
L888[23:22:34] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: how to easily let psychos access zorya's APIs http://tinyurl.com/y56az6mm
L889[23:23:02] <Paradoxical> oh cool zorya implements OEFI
L890[23:23:15] <Izaya> neat
L891[23:24:00] <Paradoxical> welp, time to write a filesystem driver for (the parts of my filesystem) that work
L892[23:24:13] <Paradoxical> welp, time to write a filesystem driver for the parts of my filesystem that work [Edited]
L893[23:24:55] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: I can run Zorya from inside PsychOS
L894[23:24:58] <AdorableCatgirl> big think
L895[23:25:38] <AdorableCatgirl> load(component.invoke(component.list("eeprom")(), "get"))()
L896[23:26:49] <AdorableCatgirl> wow
L897[23:26:59] <AdorableCatgirl> zorya+psychos uses 121K of memory
L898[23:27:17] <AdorableCatgirl> lowkey surprised it's that low, thought zorya was more of a memory hog
L899[23:27:34] <AdorableCatgirl> maybe i should add the memory usage thing to zorya
L900[23:30:53] <AdorableCatgirl> yea, zorya uses ~120K of memory it seems http://tinyurl.com/yyuq2tna
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L902[23:33:33] <AdorableCatgirl> ofc that's before GC and all
L903[23:33:45] <AdorableCatgirl> so it may use less
L904[23:33:57] <AdorableCatgirl> but do keep in mind memory usage scales with loaded modules
L905[23:34:50] <AdorableCatgirl> tbh
L906[23:35:05] <AdorableCatgirl> there's probably a bit of a memleak in zorya i need to fix
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L908[23:52:04] <AdorableCatgirl> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/okumolitez
L909[23:52:07] <AdorableCatgirl> i forgot that was a thing
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