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L3[00:52:55] <Zef> %tonk
L4[00:52:56] <MichiBot> Goshhawk! Zef! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 2 hours, 33 minutes and 59 seconds (By 1 minute and 55 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L5[00:52:57] <MichiBot> Zef's new record is 2 hours, 35 minutes and 54 seconds! Zef also gained 0.00009 (0.00003 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L6[00:53:12] <Zef> Haha I did the math right
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L9[02:07:19] <Izaya> >asie posting Discord invite links
L10[02:07:21] <Izaya> [concern]
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L12[02:18:58] <asie> Izaya: wrong channel
L13[02:19:06] <Izaya> right but
L14[02:19:09] <Izaya> >asie
L15[02:19:09] <asie> I do use Discord for Fabric propaganda purposes
L16[02:19:11] <Izaya> >discord
L17[02:19:12] <Izaya> [concern]
L18[02:19:15] <asie> because I don't really have a choice
L19[02:19:17] <asie> beyond that, not much
L20[02:20:43] <Izaya> feels bad
L21[02:23:16] <The_Stargazer> can you call functions defined in a lib inside that lib, that are also returned by that lib?
L22[02:32:30] <Zef> Uh I think it'd all depend on the order you do things
L23[02:33:08] <The_Stargazer> `ascii` is defined before `random` but `random` says `ascii` is a `nil value`
L24[02:34:20] <Zef> Well there's your answer
L25[02:34:32] <The_Stargazer> Why is it saying `nil`
L26[02:35:05] <asie> scope
L27[02:35:44] <The_Stargazer> how do I make it not say `nil`
L28[02:36:41] <asie> you make sure ascii is in random's variable scope
L29[02:36:59] <The_Stargazer> this is what I've got http://tinyurl.com/y2872nd2
L30[02:37:04] <asie> so that it sees the variable, and not nothing - nil means nothing
L31[02:38:08] <fingercomp> you define `core.ascii`, so you have to call `core.ascii`
L32[02:39:22] <The_Stargazer> tried that
L33[02:43:56] <fingercomp> did the error change when you tried that?
L34[02:45:25] <The_Stargazer> nope
L35[02:45:48] <fingercomp> try that again, and this time reboot the computer
L36[02:46:01] <The_Stargazer> so, reboot?
L37[02:46:13] <fingercomp> oh, I mean restart the emulator
L38[02:46:45] <fingercomp> if you `require` the library, it's cached in memory
L39[02:46:50] <The_Stargazer> oh
L40[02:46:57] <The_Stargazer> can you unrequire it?
L41[02:47:03] <fingercomp> if you `require` it again, it doesn't reload the library but uses the value from the cache
L42[02:47:08] <fingercomp> reboot
L43[02:47:15] <The_Stargazer> works, ty
L44[02:47:20] <fingercomp> or do `package.loaded[libraryName] = nil`
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L46[03:08:55] <Forecaster> %sip random
L47[03:08:56] <MichiBot> You drink a seeping radiation potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a sloth girl until they find true love.
L48[03:09:08] <Forecaster> ohno
L49[03:15:30] <NotBob> for testing libraries i always frisr use dofile
L50[03:15:42] <NotBob> require's preloadong can be annoying
L51[03:16:00] <NotBob> @The_Stargazer dofile works as good
L52[03:19:05] <Ariri> %sip random
L53[03:19:05] <MichiBot> You drink a light citrus potion (New!). Ariri gains the ability to talk to swords until the next time they hug someone.
L54[03:19:28] <Ariri> hmm...
L55[03:19:35] <Forecaster> don't hug a sword though
L56[03:20:01] <Ariri> might be a good idea but... what if its sad and asks for a hug
L57[03:20:06] <Ariri> how can i tell it no
L58[03:20:14] <Izaya> what if the sword is sentient
L59[03:20:19] <Izaya> and green and glowy
L60[03:20:23] <Ariri> %tonk
L61[03:20:23] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ariri, you were not able to beat Zef's record of 2 hours, 35 minutes and 54 seconds this time. 2 hours, 27 minutes and 27 seconds were wasted! Missed by 8 minutes and 26 seconds!
L62[03:20:31] <Ariri> shite
L63[03:20:46] <Ariri> what if its an emo excalibur
L64[03:20:52] <Ariri> i have to hug it
L65[03:23:04] <Forecaster> you can, but you might lose face, literally
L66[03:24:14] <Ariri> true...
L67[03:24:30] <Ariri> %8ball isnt it worth it tho?
L68[03:24:30] <MichiBot> Ariri: Ask again later
L69[03:24:35] <Ariri> tch
L70[03:24:53] <Ariri> ah well then
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L72[03:57:31] <Skye> %sip random
L73[03:57:32] <MichiBot> You drink a liquid transparent potion (New!). After drinking the potion you realize the bottle has your face on it.
L74[03:57:35] <payonel> o/
L75[03:57:37] <Skye> Aaaaaaa
L76[03:57:43] <payonel> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
L77[03:57:45] <payonel> :)
L78[03:57:52] <payonel> %drink random
L79[03:57:52] <MichiBot> You drink a thick radiation potion (New!). payonel turns into a golem fox boy until they say the word "Blatherskite".
L80[03:58:03] <Skye> Izaya: then you'd have to turn the sword into an anime girl. :p
L81[03:58:20] <payonel> Inari: apparently i'm a golem fox boy
L82[03:58:56] <Izaya> Skye: but the girl was carrying the sword? ?.?
L83[03:59:28] <Skye> "what if the sword is sentient"
L84[04:00:48] * Izaya gives Skye Transistor
L85[04:01:26] <Skye> Izaya: you were talking about hugging swords
L86[04:05:27] <asie> %drink random
L87[04:05:28] <MichiBot> You drink a light green potion (New!). asie feels the need to use the "shell" command.
L88[04:05:37] * asie hides into a shell
L89[04:09:54] <Inari> payonel: Heh
L90[04:10:08] <Inari> AmandaC: haha
L91[04:10:09] <payonel> Inari: i dont know how to be a fox boy
L92[04:10:46] <Izaya> Skye: is that a spoiler? :|
L93[04:11:03] <Inari> payonel: Animal stuff looks better on girls instead of boys anyway
L94[04:11:17] * payonel sighs in relief
L95[04:12:02] <payonel> asie: charset uploaded to maven.cil.li
L96[04:12:04] <payonel> testing build
L97[04:12:30] <asie> Inari: s/Animal stuff/pretty much everything clothing\/fashion-related/
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L99[04:14:08] <asie> payonel: should work fine, though if you're not in a hurry i might still add capability-based redstone input/output listening (for simplelogic wires)
L100[04:14:18] <asie> right now it can do bundled and redstone input, but only bundled output, through the charset API
L101[04:14:22] <asie> doesn't really matter much in practice, but hey
L102[04:15:14] <payonel> i'd love anything more you want to add, but i'm also happy to merge what we've got now
L103[04:15:23] <payonel> i just wanted to first get our maven ready
L104[04:15:23] <asie> hmm, let's ask differently
L105[04:15:28] <asie> is 1.7.5 coming out this year?
L106[04:15:43] <asie> if yes, the effort might still be worth it for 1.12.2 users
L107[04:15:57] <payonel> yes, 1.7.5 will be done this year
L108[04:15:59] <asie> okay
L109[04:16:14] <asie> feel free to merge it now if you want, i won't have time to do this better until next weekend at the earliest
L110[04:17:08] <payonel> sounds good, merged
L111[04:17:28] <Skye> Izaya: I'm confused
L112[04:18:46] <Izaya> transistor
L113[04:18:48] <Izaya> the game
L114[04:18:59] <Izaya> a talking sword and a singer
L115[04:20:55] <Inari> asie: Nah, theres plenty of stuff that looks great on guys
L116[04:21:48] <Kodos> Well this series looks interesting so far
L117[04:22:14] <asie> Inari: i didn't say there aren't things which look great on guys
L118[04:22:31] <Inari> I think some stuff looks better on guys even :P
L119[04:22:32] <asie> i just said that most of them often are considered to look better, or at the very least more novel, on girls anyway
L120[04:22:44] <asie> Yes, which is why I said "pretty much everything" - there is some stuff that looks better on guys
L121[04:22:50] <Inari> I guess so
L122[04:22:52] <asie> but in the whole universe of fashion/clothing it's a small bubble
L123[04:22:58] <Inari> %pet asie
L124[04:22:58] * MichiBot brushes asie with a Magic p90! (25%). 19 health gained (17+2)!
L125[04:26:44] <asie> %si prandom
L126[04:26:46] <asie> %sip random
L127[04:26:47] <MichiBot> You drink a fiery rainbow potion (New!). asie feels a strong urge to recycle the potion bottle.
L128[04:26:51] <asie> (New!)
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L131[04:48:14] <Rph> Hmm, does the Lua 5.2 or 5.3 in OC have a way to set an arbitrary environment for a coroutine?
L132[04:48:44] <Rph> I want to load arbitrary code in a non-harmful way
L133[04:49:20] <asie> you can't set an outright arbitrary env, iirc
L134[04:49:29] <asie> there's a lot of sandboxing and wizardry the deeper you go
L135[04:49:31] <NotBob> you want to sandbox
L136[04:49:32] <NotBob> yes
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L139[04:49:40] <asie> i've written a reimplementation of OC, there's a LOT of magic done in the default env
L140[04:49:52] <Rph> hmm
L141[04:50:50] <asie> like, a notable chunk of core OpenComputers API methods exist only in machine.lua, grafted onto the lower-level API
L142[04:51:05] <asie> not to mention, timeout handling
L143[04:51:16] <Rph> I wanted to make a chatbot that allows anyone to execute basic functions.
L144[04:51:32] <Rph> but I dont want people to encrypt my whole hard drive .-.
L145[04:51:32] <The_Stargazer> using?
L146[04:51:40] <Rph> using OC and computronics chatboxes
L147[04:51:45] <The_Stargazer> simple solution:
L148[04:51:56] <Rph> I need to sandbox the code I execute somehow.
L149[04:51:59] <The_Stargazer> a massive `if elseif` block.
L150[04:52:00] <fingercomp> if you `load` the code, you can pass the environment to that function
L151[04:52:10] <The_Stargazer> It works.
L152[04:52:12] <NotBob> i doubt it will would
L153[04:52:17] <NotBob> also table > esle if spam
L154[04:52:23] <fingercomp> `load(code, "=mycode", "t", customEnv)`
L155[04:52:26] <NotBob> and yea
L156[04:52:32] <Rph> hmm
L157[04:52:58] <The_Stargazer> @Rph Out of curiosity, which server are you attempting this on
L158[04:53:01] <NotBob> loadfile ([filename [, mode [, env]]])
L159[04:53:56] <Rph> this worked
L160[04:53:57] <Rph> http://tinyurl.com/y5jkcxxy
L161[04:53:57] <Rph> thanks
L162[04:54:57] <The_Stargazer> also:
L163[04:54:59] <The_Stargazer> FDE isn't possible
L164[04:55:05] <The_Stargazer> not to my knowledge atleast
L165[04:55:05] <NotBob> tables > elseifs
L166[04:55:07] <Rph> FDE?
L167[04:55:12] <The_Stargazer> full disk encryption
L168[04:55:27] <Rph> you know what
L169[04:55:29] <Rph> I now want to do that
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L171[04:55:42] <The_Stargazer> :P
L172[04:55:42] <The_Stargazer> I'm sorry.
L173[04:55:43] <Rph> the whole FDE logic would sit in init.lua
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L175[04:55:53] <Rph> so it could boot with unmodified bios
L176[04:55:57] <The_Stargazer> good idea
L177[04:56:02] <Rph> and it would overwrite the component api
L178[04:56:08] <The_Stargazer> you can't encrypt the disk but you can encrypt files
L179[04:56:15] <The_Stargazer> a simple solution would be
L180[04:56:17] <The_Stargazer> encrypt files
L181[04:56:21] <The_Stargazer> request read
L182[04:56:23] <The_Stargazer> decrypt file
L183[04:56:37] <The_Stargazer> ...someone needs to make an OS that has FDE
L184[04:56:39] <Rph> unmanaged drives
L185[04:56:46] <The_Stargazer> hmm?
L186[04:56:50] <Rph> also, with my solution you could install OpenOS normally
L187[04:56:51] <The_Stargazer> never used 'em
L188[04:56:56] <The_Stargazer> never understood 'em
L189[04:57:01] <The_Stargazer> how do they actually work?
L190[04:57:06] <Rph> unmanaged drives are essentially a 4 MB file
L191[04:57:12] <Rph> that you write to at arbitrary positions
L192[04:57:12] <The_Stargazer> Ohhh
L193[04:57:22] <The_Stargazer> It's a Unix! :D
L194[04:57:25] <Rph> they are *unmanaged* by OC
L195[04:57:40] <The_Stargazer> (kinda)
L196[04:57:46] <Rph> although for an OS with unix-style permissions, I think metafiles would work better to be honest
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L199[04:57:59] <The_Stargazer> LITERALLY EVERYTHING is a file.. in fact, it's all one big file!
L200[04:58:04] <The_Stargazer> Files within other files
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L203[04:58:47] <Izaya> >it's a unix
L204[04:58:49] <Izaya> this pains me
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L206[04:58:58] <The_Stargazer> It was a joke (mostly)
L207[04:59:13] <The_Stargazer> Because "everything is a file"
L208[04:59:49] <The_Stargazer> afk, moving screen cable to my soon-to-be OMV NAS box
L209[05:00:42] <Izaya> so you're actually away-from-screen
L210[05:01:12] <asie> it's not truly FDE if you can list the filenames, IMO
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L218[06:06:10] <Forecaster> Temia: polygon birb https://www.deviantart.com/diego1a/art/The-colorful-bird-vector-diego-campos-519998850
L219[06:06:50] <Inari> Cute
L220[06:07:51] <Inari> Anyone doing any Alexa development? :f Can't seem to get it to give me an IntentRequest, the utternace profiler recognizes it, but the testing thing just gives me SessionEndedRequest
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L222[06:10:53] <vifino> Define "Alexa development"?
L223[06:11:06] <vifino> I sorta... rooted some alexas.
L224[06:12:14] <vifino> But no, I can't help you. :D
L225[06:12:34] <Inari> vifino: Making skills for them :P
L226[06:13:51] <vifino> *shrug* I've never actually used alexas.
L227[06:19:51] <Inari> Heh
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L229[06:24:02] <The_Stargazer> OMV you stupid
L230[06:24:02] <The_Stargazer> that address is not valid
L231[06:24:15] <Lizzy> ?
L232[06:24:35] <The_Stargazer> wonder if it's because of the fact that my laptop is connected to mobile hotspot but the OMV box is using USB tethering
L233[06:25:04] <The_Stargazer> hmm
L234[06:25:18] <The_Stargazer> is it possible to connect two computers via Ethernet (direct computer-to-computer cable)
L235[06:25:23] <Lizzy> yes
L236[06:25:52] <The_Stargazer> and can you share an internet connection between them?
L237[06:26:07] <Lizzy> it requires some setup, but yes
L238[06:26:23] <The_Stargazer> is it possible on windows
L239[06:26:30] <Lizzy> see last statement
L240[06:26:35] <vifino> Assuming your NICs support auto-MDIX, you can use a plain ethernet cable. Otherwise you need a crossover cable. But since gigabit ethernet, auto MDIX is required, iirc.
L241[06:26:43] <The_Stargazer> my whats support what?
L242[06:27:09] <The_Stargazer> i have a laptop
L243[06:27:10] <The_Stargazer> and a desktop with 1GB RAM and an 80GB HDD that i want to use with OMV
L244[06:27:26] <The_Stargazer> and I want the laptop to be able to access the desktop
L245[06:27:28] <vifino> Google it. You might learn something.
L246[06:27:30] <Lizzy> a quick use of your favourite search engine will give you more information
L247[06:27:39] * vifino high-fives Lizzy
L248[06:27:47] * Lizzy high-fives vifino
L249[06:27:51] <The_Stargazer> problem with that is that I have no idea what to ask google
L250[06:28:06] <vifino> Try... entering words you don't understand.
L251[06:28:19] <vifino> Like "google" or "search engines".
L252[06:28:19] <Forecaster> google "do the thing"
L253[06:28:59] <Lizzy> https://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+how+to+share+internet+connection+with+another+pc+via+ethernet
L254[06:29:04] <The_Stargazer> ah, ICS is what I need
L255[06:29:34] <Corded> * <Forecaster> resists the urge to click the link even though he knows what it is
L256[06:32:16] <vifino> Yes and no. What you need is: The ability to figure out what knowledge you lack, searching for it, reading text describing what you were looking for and repeating that until you *know* what you are doing.
L257[06:33:38] <The_Stargazer> small problem
L258[06:33:43] <The_Stargazer> i don't have an ethernet cable
L259[06:33:46] <vifino> You can't read?
L260[06:34:11] <Forecaster> make one out of bubblegum and shoelaces
L261[06:34:16] <vifino> Well then why did you ask if you can do it via an ethernet cable if you don't have an ethernet cable..
L262[06:34:33] <The_Stargazer> because I don't want to waste money on one
L263[06:34:50] <SquidDev> %tonk
L264[06:34:50] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! SquidDev! You beat Zef's previous record of 2 hours, 35 minutes and 54 seconds (By 38 minutes and 32 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L265[06:34:51] <MichiBot> SquidDev's new record is 3 hours, 14 minutes and 26 seconds! SquidDev also gained 0.00192 (0.00064 x 3) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L266[06:35:15] <Forecaster> kind of a moot point how you can do that then isn't it
L267[06:41:19] <simon816> If you have a wifi adapter you can create a hotspot
L268[06:41:30] <The_Stargazer> But
L269[06:41:34] <The_Stargazer> The desktop dont have a wifi card
L270[06:41:35] <The_Stargazer> Because
L271[06:41:39] <The_Stargazer> Its a desktop
L272[06:41:49] <Forecaster> there are desktops with wifi cards
L273[06:41:57] <The_Stargazer> **what**
L274[06:42:18] <Forecaster> either to create hotspots, or because you can't get a cable
L275[06:42:32] <Forecaster> maybe other reasons
L276[06:42:40] <NotBob> ye
L277[06:42:45] <The_Stargazer> arent hotspots for like
L278[06:42:46] <The_Stargazer> phones
L279[06:42:50] <Forecaster> yes?
L280[06:42:58] <Forecaster> or tablets, or laptops
L281[06:43:04] <Forecaster> or anything else that can use wifi
L282[06:43:09] <The_Stargazer> no like
L283[06:43:12] <The_Stargazer> the phones make them
L284[06:43:22] <The_Stargazer> is called a **mobile** hotspot
L285[06:43:36] <simon816> most wifi adapters can (well both my laptop and desktop can)
L286[06:43:36] <Forecaster> computers can make hotspots too
L287[06:44:08] <The_Stargazer> \>desktops with wifi
L288[06:44:08] <The_Stargazer> isnt ethernet faster?
L289[06:44:17] <simon816> I like how my adapter is (theoretically) faster than ethernet https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/99445/intel-wireless-ac-9260.html
L290[06:44:30] <Forecaster> yes... but everyone might not be able to get a cable to where their computer is
L291[06:44:57] <Forecaster> well generally
L292[06:45:06] <The_Stargazer> ten-meter cables exist
L293[06:45:10] <The_Stargazer> i think?
L294[06:45:25] <Forecaster> I'm not sure why you're arguing
L295[06:45:57] <simon816> use case: I don't want to run a cable from one end of the house to the other
L296[06:46:11] <The_Stargazer> fair point.
L297[06:47:23] <The_Stargazer> also how come some phones cant hotspot wifi?
L298[06:47:26] <The_Stargazer> my laptop can
L299[06:47:44] <Lizzy> network providers will lock them down sometimes
L300[06:49:30] <The_Stargazer> which imo is stupid
L301[06:49:35] <The_Stargazer> is there a reason?
L302[06:49:57] <Lizzy> idk, go ask the phone networks
L303[06:50:14] <Lizzy> or your favourite search engine
L304[06:51:14] <simon816> money, probably. They detect it from mac addresses iirc, there are ways around it
L305[06:54:23] <Inari> I wish you could order custom ICs
L306[06:54:46] * Inari pokes 3d printing
L307[06:54:49] <Inari> Come on, get somewhere
L308[06:54:56] <Forecaster> https://www.buttersafe.com/2019/07/25/steeping/
L309[06:54:59] <Forecaster> beware
L310[06:55:54] <Inari> Heh
L311[07:03:43] <NotBob> True
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L313[07:35:34] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jfpcZtjxHg :o
L314[07:35:34] <MichiBot> Verbalase - Low Tetris Beatbox [1 HOUR EDITION][Viral] | length: 1h 42s | Likes: 60,328 Dislikes: 1,168 Views: 2,250,947 | by NiruTube | Published On 7/3/2019
L315[07:40:42] <NotBob> ded meem
L316[08:00:13] <The_Stargazer> Lizzy: ? http://tinyurl.com/y27oth82
L317[08:00:26] <Lizzy> ?
L318[08:00:39] <The_Stargazer> because it says "LizzyInSpace"
L319[08:00:41] <The_Stargazer> is joke
L320[08:00:42] <The_Stargazer> is funny
L321[08:00:47] <Lizzy> ah
L322[08:00:56] <Lizzy> well that would be a different Lizzy
L323[08:05:57] <Forecaster> We're all always in space except Lizzy who exists across many dimensions
L324[08:06:05] <Lizzy> yes
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L326[08:42:12] <alexandria> %tonk
L327[08:42:12] <MichiBot> I'm sorry alexandria, you were not able to beat SquidDev's record of 3 hours, 14 minutes and 26 seconds this time. 2 hours, 7 minutes and 22 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 7 minutes and 4 seconds!
L328[08:42:17] <alexandria> whaat
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L330[09:25:13] * Inari waaaats alexandria
L331[09:29:17] <alexandria> sigsegvuwu
L332[09:29:57] <Inari> I love it
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L334[09:43:52] * Skye headpats alexandria
L335[09:49:10] <Forecaster> %sip
L336[09:49:10] <MichiBot> Drink what?
L337[09:49:18] <Forecaster> oh right, no restart yet
L338[09:49:19] <Lizzy> %loot
L339[09:49:20] <MichiBot> Lizzy: You get a loot box! It contains a chocolate bar that was left out in the sun. (100%)
L340[09:49:24] <Forecaster> %sip random
L341[09:49:25] <MichiBot> You drink a goopy octiron potion (New!). Forecaster grows a tail from a lizard until they see a bird.
L342[09:50:07] <Lizzy> %slurp random
L343[09:50:11] <Lizzy> hmm
L344[09:50:23] <Lizzy> %chug random
L345[09:50:23] <MichiBot> You drink a salty dilithium potion (New!). The bottle turns into an axe.
L346[09:50:29] <Lizzy> ooh
L347[09:51:03] <Lizzy> %sip random
L348[09:51:03] <MichiBot> You drink a shimmering tiberium potion (New!). Lizzy's pockets suddenly contain a number of dilithium colored marbles.
L349[09:51:29] * Lizzy turns them into dilithium crystals and powers up a warp core
L350[09:52:22] <Skye> %drink random
L351[09:52:22] <MichiBot> You drink a mutable diamond potion (New!). Skye turns into a aether sheep until they eat a pie.
L352[09:52:28] <Skye> Help
L353[09:52:33] <Skye> Someone give me a pie.
L354[09:52:35] <Skye> Baa
L355[09:52:51] <Forecaster> anyone speak aether sheep?
L356[09:53:54] <Forecaster> hm, the prefix for "aether" is correctly "an", but it didn't use it
L357[09:55:42] <AmandaC> Lizzy: wait! Take me with you! I want off this hell planet too!
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L360[10:17:32] <Mimiru> Same!
L361[10:18:46] <Forecaster> but I like the planet, can't we just eject all the jerks instead
L362[10:18:53] <Inari> The planet is too hot
L363[10:22:01] <Lizzy> AmandaC, haven't actually gone anywhere yet :P
L364[10:22:28] <Forecaster> could use the warp core to power some air conditioning
L365[10:29:07] <Mimiru> Planetary AC?
L366[10:30:10] <Forecaster> yeah, what could possibly go wrong
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L368[10:32:38] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L369[10:35:30] <Forecaster> someone restart MichiBot
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L371[10:38:35] <Forecaster> for no reason... > . >
L372[10:39:09] <Mimiru> %restart
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L374[10:39:21] <Mimiru> mmhmm
L375[10:39:40] <Forecaster> I don't have ulterior motives you have ulterior motives!
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L377[10:39:41] zsh sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L378[10:39:56] <AmandaC> Just drop a giant block of ice from a comet into the ocean every year!
L379[10:40:01] <Forecaster> %slurp
L380[10:40:14] <AdorableCatgirl> %tonk
L381[10:40:27] <AdorableCatgirl> :(
L382[10:40:30] <MichiBot> I'm sorry AdorableCatgirl, you were not able to beat SquidDev's record of 3 hours, 14 minutes and 26 seconds this time. 1 hour, 58 minutes and 14 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 16 minutes and 11 seconds!
L383[10:40:35] <AdorableCatgirl> OH
L384[10:40:41] <Forecaster> MichiBot is slow just after starting
L385[10:40:44] <AdorableCatgirl> kek
L386[10:40:52] <AdorableCatgirl> i didn't see michibot left
L387[10:42:07] <Forecaster> %sip
L388[10:42:16] <Forecaster> well that's not working...
L389[10:42:19] <Forecaster> %sip random
L390[10:42:19] <MichiBot> You drink a dull orange potion (New!). For about a second Forecaster knows the location of a great treasure.
L391[10:42:21] <Mimiru> well, it looks like you may have broken it.
L392[10:42:21] <Mimiru> gg
L393[10:42:42] <Forecaster> it's just the new thing that's not working
L394[10:42:49] <Mimiru> I SAID GG.
L395[10:42:51] <Mimiru> :P
L396[10:42:57] <Forecaster> that is, assuming "random" when there's no argument
L397[10:43:12] <Forecaster> I guess I did the condition wrong
L398[10:43:27] <Forecaster> I *did* add this though
L399[10:43:32] <Forecaster> %slurp random
L400[10:43:32] <MichiBot> You drink a stirring röd potion (New!). Forecaster feels slightly more agile.
L401[10:44:06] <AdorableCatgirl> %bap Forecaster
L402[10:44:07] * MichiBot baps Forecaster with the rock rope
L403[10:44:13] <Forecaster> ow
L404[10:44:21] <AdorableCatgirl> %inv list
L405[10:44:21] <MichiBot> AdorableCatgirl: Here's my inventory: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/inventory
L406[10:44:28] <Corded> * <Forecaster> slurps angrily
L407[10:44:53] <AdorableCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/y4m7swp3
L408[10:44:57] <AdorableCatgirl> 49 years ago
L409[10:45:13] <Forecaster> that's basically "time = 0"
L410[10:45:22] <Forecaster> ie from before "time added" was a field
L411[10:45:31] <AdorableCatgirl> yeye
L412[10:45:55] <AdorableCatgirl> %rateitem
L413[10:46:06] <AdorableCatgirl> okay it does need an argument
L414[10:46:07] <AdorableCatgirl> cool
L415[10:46:14] <AdorableCatgirl> %rateitem 40 USD worth of single zimbabwe dollar bills
L416[10:46:21] <AdorableCatgirl> or i forgot the command
L417[10:46:23] <Forecaster> that's not a thing
L418[10:46:42] <AdorableCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/y29p343b
L419[10:47:11] <Inari> tinyurl dead
L420[10:47:13] <Forecaster> oh, that's part of the half-finished broken stuff
L421[10:47:16] <AdorableCatgirl> oh
L422[10:47:17] <AdorableCatgirl> lmao
L423[10:47:38] <AdorableCatgirl> %blame ifunny
L424[10:47:38] * MichiBot blames ifunny for Half-life 3 not being out
L425[10:48:11] <Inari> Also
L426[10:48:15] <Inari> RIP sad panda
L427[10:48:26] <Forecaster> what is that
L428[10:48:47] <Inari> a rather nice H site
L429[10:48:56] <Forecaster> oh
L430[10:49:37] <Inari> %pet @Forecaster
L431[10:49:38] * MichiBot pets @Forecaster with a broken .exe file. 9 health gained (11-2)!
L432[10:50:03] <Corded> * <Forecaster> is corrupted
L433[10:50:51] <Inari> You became corrupted but healed?
L434[10:51:34] <AdorableCatgirl> %inv add an ELF-format executable for another architecture
L435[10:51:35] * MichiBot summons 'an ELF-format executable for another architecture' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L436[10:52:14] <Forecaster> yes
L437[10:53:21] <AdorableCatgirl> wait i got another big brain item
L438[10:53:32] <AdorableCatgirl> %inv add the ReactOS kernel
L439[10:53:32] * MichiBot summons 'the ReactOS kernel' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
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L442[11:56:15] <Ariri> %drink random
L443[11:56:15] <MichiBot> You drink a sweet redstone potion (New!). Everything Ariri says is now in Comic Sans until they leave.
L444[11:56:25] <asie> %drink random
L445[11:56:25] <MichiBot> You drink a fragrant tomato potion (New!). asie looks up and sees the moon smile at them for a second.
L446[11:56:31] <asie> (New!)
L447[11:56:37] <Ariri> %tonk
L448[11:56:37] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ariri, you were not able to beat SquidDev's record of 3 hours, 14 minutes and 26 seconds this time. 1 hour, 16 minutes and 9 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 58 minutes and 16 seconds!
L449[11:56:44] <Ariri> nani sore
L450[11:57:43] <Paradoxical> %inv add 0x1f 0x8b 0x08 0x00 0x5D 0x3B 0x30 0xD6 0x00 0x03
L451[11:57:44] * MichiBot summons '0x1f 0x8b 0x08 0x00 0x5D 0x3B 0x30 0xD6 0x00 0x03' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L452[11:59:00] <CompanionCube> %drink random
L453[11:59:00] <MichiBot> You drink a goopy bombastium potion (New!). CompanionCube gains an additional bone.
L454[11:59:49] <Paradoxical> %drink random
L455[11:59:49] <MichiBot> You drink a sedimented bombastium potion (New!). Paradoxical's bones turn gold until they see a bird.
L456[12:00:02] <Paradoxical> two bone-related potions in a row lol
L457[12:00:05] <Paradoxical> %drink random
L458[12:00:05] <MichiBot> You drink a gloopy transparent potion (New!). Paradoxical is suddenly more aware of cute things nearby for 4 moons.
L459[12:00:10] <Ariri> MichiBot seems fascinated with bones...
L460[12:00:12] <Ariri> and moons...
L461[12:00:16] <Ariri> hmm
L462[12:00:19] <Ariri> not far of from
L463[12:00:26] <Ariri> *brains and suns*
L464[12:00:47] <Ariri> zombie doomsday apocalypse bc of MichiBot confirmed
L465[12:00:51] <Paradoxical> ᶦᵐ ᵈʳᵒʷⁿᶦⁿᵍ ᶦⁿ ˡᵉˢˢ ᵃʷᵃʳᵉⁿᵉˢˢ ᵒᶠ ᵐʸˢᵉˡᶠ
L466[12:01:16] <ayangd> Lol they put BIOS screen with custom error in it. http://tinyurl.com/y6jztj7n
L467[12:01:40] <Paradoxical> probably to emphasize the whole **ERRROR** part of it
L468[12:01:49] <ayangd> ikr
L469[12:01:53] <ayangd> But
L470[12:02:00] <ayangd> dang
L471[12:02:34] <ayangd> I laughed
L472[12:02:36] <Paradoxical> I made a bootloader BIOS that is 1,596 bytes
L473[12:02:54] <ayangd> U made it for what platform?
L474[12:02:58] <Paradoxical> Lua
L475[12:03:03] <ayangd> Oh, ok
L476[12:03:31] <ayangd> I thought u r making real bootloader
L477[12:03:32] <ayangd> nvm
L478[12:03:46] <Paradoxical> Compared to the 3,779 bytes that OpenLoader is
L479[12:03:46] <Ariri> damn shade
L480[12:04:06] <Paradoxical> 2183 byte difference
L481[12:04:11] <ayangd> Noice
L482[12:04:25] <Paradoxical> more space to fit any custom logic if you need it for some odd reason
L483[12:04:32] <ayangd> Actually it can be easily compressed by hand
L484[12:04:37] <Ariri> https://i.imgur.com/8F9qvvO.png bruh
L485[12:04:40] <Paradoxical> https://pastebin.com/ZazwseRP
L486[12:05:04] <ayangd> Basically
L487[12:05:06] <Paradoxical> I used a lua minifier after turning everything I could into functions
L488[12:05:08] <ayangd> U obfuscate it
L489[12:05:22] <ayangd> U can further make it small tho
L490[12:05:48] <ayangd> I think..
L491[12:06:08] <ayangd> Gtg just passing by
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L493[12:18:45] <NotBob> http://tinyurl.com/y6epcfvz
L494[12:18:47] <NotBob> Cat about to melt
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L496[12:37:43] <payonel> @Rph in lua > 5.2 you set the env on a code chunk when you load it. you do not set it on a coroutine nor a function directly
L497[12:38:02] <Mimiru> yay it'sa payonel
L498[12:38:11] <Forecaster> or is it > - >
L499[12:38:12] <payonel> Mimiru: o/
L500[12:38:17] * Mimiru checks
L501[12:38:19] <Mimiru> Yes, checks out
L502[12:38:20] <Mimiru> \o
L503[12:53:52] <Mimiru> bye payonel q_q
L504[12:54:15] <Forecaster> *bagpipes play*
L505[13:01:28] <Inari> Why bye
L506[13:02:31] <Mimiru> -*status- *** payonel detached
L507[13:05:24] <Inari> Tsktsktsk
L508[13:07:59] <Ariri> periodt
L509[13:10:16] <Forecaster> emeralt
L510[13:22:01] <Mimiru> attach/detach/attach/detach.. lol
L511[13:27:28] <AmandaC> He's trying to send a request for aid using morse code!
L512[13:33:18] <Lizzy> fuckit, i left my yubikey at work and it is needed to get into sudo...
L513[13:33:50] * AmandaC waits while calibre updates with https://github.com/coreyoconnor/nixpkgs/commit/b7f4e4f462960b32639db7bffe3e24c7b2a4f0f8 applied
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L515[13:39:27] <Forecaster> that's probably the biggest drawback of a physical key
L516[13:39:28] <Forecaster> :P
L517[13:39:53] <Mimiru> Implant it in your arm or something.. lol
L518[13:51:12] * Lizzy wonders if she can try and guess her root password
L519[13:51:42] <Forecaster> I don't see why you couldn't try :P
L520[13:53:55] <Lizzy> aha, got in
L521[13:54:18] <Mimiru> The downside to a software key, BTW... is what I'm dealing with with GTA currently, new phone, didn't move auth over, now I can't 2FA.
L522[13:54:54] <Mimiru> luckily... with GTA if you have a MS/Google/PSN/whatever else signin linked to your social club account you can use *it* to signin and bypass 2FA.
L523[13:55:21] <ben_mkiv> blizzard locked my account once and wanted me to confirm with my id card
L524[13:55:48] <ben_mkiv> tho i never gave them my personal info so anyone with an idcard could have "confirmed" himself as accountowner
L525[13:56:01] <Mimiru> lulz
L526[13:57:17] <ben_mkiv> yea, never going to buy a game of them again -.-
L527[13:59:38] <Lizzy> aand lego digital designer still doesn't work in wine even with the missing lib now installed... whatever
L528[14:00:53] * Inari hits head against wall repeatedly
L529[14:01:01] <Inari> You... stupid... alexa... sill.. crap...
L530[14:02:06] <Inari> *skill even
L531[14:13:23] * AmandaC boops Inari, cuddles up against her
L532[14:15:24] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L533[14:15:27] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L534[14:15:28] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with a Happy Cow brush. 7 health gained (6+1)!
L535[14:16:50] <Lizzian> but everything else works
L536[14:16:58] <Lizzian> wonderful, my pc had a kernel error
L537[14:18:49] <Inari> %flip
L538[14:18:49] <MichiBot> Inari: (╯°□°）╯┻━┻
L539[14:18:54] <Inari> So done with this for now
L540[14:19:23] * payonel rocks out to schism (tool)
L541[14:19:26] <payonel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMMz2VwbhVI
L542[14:19:28] <MichiBot> Tool - Schism (Official Music Video) | length: 7m 58s | Likes: 20,758 Dislikes: 433 Views: 1,755,674 | by OfficialTOOL | Published On 5/1/2017
L543[14:20:20] <Lizzian> oh, so two of my messages made it through
L544[14:20:25] <Lizzian> also in the wrong order
L545[14:20:27] <Lizzian> thanks discord
L546[14:21:00] <Lizzian> so yeah, the amdgpu kernel module crashed
L547[14:23:51] <Lizzian> had to REISUB reboot my pc :/
L548[14:26:58] <Temia> Oof
L549[14:27:10] <Temia> It couldn't even recover?
L550[14:27:42] <Lizzy> nope, display all locked up. i ssh'd in from my laptop and told it to reboot and it just sat there for a minute before i did the reisub
L551[14:31:30] <Lizzy> hmm, do i feel like playing space engineers or openttd...
L552[14:32:10] <Lizzy> oh wait, i said i was gonna draw tonight
L553[14:32:26] <Lizzy> or, try to
L554[14:32:32] <Lizzy> actually, i'll do that tomorrow
L555[14:33:09] <AmandaC> %choose continue waiting for Calibre to get fixed on NixOS or write a bunch of PowerShell scripts for it instead
L556[14:33:10] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Elementary dear Watson, "continue waiting for Calibre to get fixed on NixOS" is the obvious choice!
L557[14:33:46] <AmandaC> Hrm
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L562[15:04:13] <FeelsbadLemon> Fingercomp are you around?
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L565[15:12:42] <FeelsbadLemon> attempt to call field maxPacketSize (a nil value)
L566[15:13:04] <FeelsbadLemon> is this a simple error or a complex one?
L567[15:13:18] <MGR> Please post your code
L568[15:13:31] <FeelsbadLemon> It's fingercomp's net-flash code
L569[15:13:46] <MGR> Then please post how you're using it
L570[15:14:03] <FeelsbadLemon> net-flash test.lua
L571[15:14:17] <FeelsbadLemon> test.lua contains [computer.beep()]
L572[15:14:38] <FeelsbadLemon> and the receiving program running on my drone should be the correct progam
L573[15:14:41] <MGR> Is your CPU arch Lua 5.2 or Lua 5.3?
L574[15:14:51] <FeelsbadLemon> How can I check this?
L575[15:15:00] <FeelsbadLemon> nvm
L576[15:15:05] <FeelsbadLemon> it's 5,2
L577[15:15:22] <MGR> Try switching it to 5.3 by holding it in your hand and right clicking
L578[15:15:45] <SquidDev> %tonkout
L579[15:15:45] <MichiBot> Zounderkite! SquidDev! You beat your own previous record of 3 hours, 14 minutes and 26 seconds (By 4 minutes and 41 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L580[15:15:46] <MichiBot> SquidDev has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.003 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! Current score: 0.01638
L581[15:16:02] <FeelsbadLemon> No change
L582[15:16:09] <MGR> Ok
L583[15:16:30] <FeelsbadLemon> What's the major difference between 5.2 and 5.3? If it's a complicated answer then I'll wait till after to find out
L584[15:16:55] <MGR> 5.3 offers some additional operations that the code may have been calling
L585[15:16:55] <FeelsbadLemon> I'm just curious why that's even an option to change between the two and why they're not on 5.3 by default
L586[15:17:05] <MGR> In this case, it's not the problem
L587[15:17:39] <FeelsbadLemon> https://imgur.com/a/NEm1yJ8
L588[15:17:44] <FeelsbadLemon> there's the error
L589[15:23:34] <payonel> FeelsbadLemon: do you have a link to the source code?
L590[15:26:09] <FeelsbadLemon> sure thing
L591[15:27:11] <FeelsbadLemon> https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Fingercomp-Programs/blob/master/net-flash/net-flash.lua
L592[15:27:21] <FeelsbadLemon> here's a pastebin to the computer side of net-flash
L593[15:27:26] <FeelsbadLemon> tho I got mine from oppm
L594[15:35:16] <Mimiru> maxPacketSize() was removed, wasn't it?
L595[15:35:55] <Mimiru> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/8e1faa831a12c4ebcbf752947f76385e3adbf71e/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/server/component/NetworkCard.scala#L110-L112
L596[15:36:28] <payonel> huh..it was, i was tracking those changes
L597[15:36:30] <payonel> why?
L598[15:36:34] <payonel> why did i merge that?
L599[15:37:05] <Mimiru> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2562#issuecomment-349142582
L600[15:37:06] <MichiBot> Title: [Suggestion] Low-range wireless network card. | Posted by: S0ZDATEL | Posted: Sat Oct 21 05:12:25 CDT 2017 | Status: closed
L601[15:37:07] * Mimiru shrugs
L602[15:37:18] <payonel> yeah, that's where i was
L603[15:45:47] <payonel> Mimiru: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/commit/ec6356bbc38e24ab2c074de048f5d2b41e201d53#diff-0a09bab1061c75858500ec272bd00856L111
L604[15:45:56] <payonel> sangar did it
L605[15:46:02] <payonel> FeelsbadLemon: apparently...
L606[15:46:13] <payonel> we removed that method on April 1st, 2017
L607[15:46:25] <payonel> you can get that info via device info
L608[15:46:34] <payonel> i dont think we should have removed it, but...it is what it is
L609[15:47:26] <ben_mkiv> april fools to all the existing code out there
L610[15:47:31] <payonel> aye
L611[15:58:23] <FeelsbadLemon> rip
L612[16:02:53] <Forecaster> %sip random
L613[16:02:53] <MichiBot> You drink a goopy ocean potion (New!). Forecaster's hair grows 3 times longer until their next sip of water.
L614[16:03:13] <Corded> * <Forecaster> drowns in hair
L615[16:04:44] <Temia> %quaff mutable ocean potion
L616[16:04:44] <MichiBot> Temia turns into a red sloth girl for 5 moons.
L617[16:04:48] <Temia> heck
L618[16:05:57] <NotBob> FeelsbadLemon i guess its fixeable
L619[16:08:11] <Skye> %sip random
L620[16:08:11] <MichiBot> You drink a fluffy redstone potion (New!). The ghost of a plant haunts you until they eat a pie.
L621[16:08:37] <Temia> Ghosts can't eat pies though
L622[16:08:41] <Temia> Except maybe spooky pies...
L623[16:08:46] * Temia grabs a boneboo from the fridge
L624[16:12:06] <AdorableCatgirl> http://tinyurl.com/y4b6jhez
L625[16:17:17] <Inari> Are there any other sites like etsy or wish?
L626[16:18:35] <Mimiru> Well, there is Etsy, and Wish.
L627[16:18:39] <Mimiru> :P
L628[16:19:08] <Mimiru> Hi, I'm a smartass.
L629[16:21:06] <Temia> Granted, Inari said "other"
L630[16:21:17] <AmandaC> %8ball OPDS nao?
L631[16:21:17] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My reply is no
L632[16:21:20] <AmandaC> hrm
L633[16:21:30] * AmandaC considers
L634[16:22:11] <AmandaC> I think I'll go for that, actually. I'll have to figure out how to get a list of most recently changed books though
L635[16:22:12] <Inari> :p
L636[16:22:19] <Inari> I just want more Monster Hunter Merch :f
L637[16:22:28] <Inari> Like a duffelbag is cool and all, but I can't really stick my laptop in there
L638[16:22:58] <AmandaC> No Monster Hunter messenger bags?
L639[16:23:12] <Inari> I mean, theres on on wish, but it's not a laptop one for sure
L640[16:23:30] <Forecaster> Looks like I missed replacing a "you" with "{user}"
L641[16:24:02] <Inari> AmandaC: Plus messenger bag would put too much weight on one shoulder imo
L642[16:24:23] <AmandaC> I've been using a messanger bag for my laptop for years now
L643[16:24:45] <Inari> If youy laptop is small enouihg or your messenger bag large enough
L644[16:25:30] <Inari> https://www.wish.com/product/57c17f7b9ba4361c6106935a this doesn't look like it is
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L650[16:59:28] <NotBob> http://tinyurl.com/yytnf56a
L651[16:59:34] <NotBob> http://tinyurl.com/y3mejngo
L652[17:02:54] <Ariri> Tch, area 51 is planning for our attacks
L653[17:03:07] <Ariri> no matter, with the power of god and anime on our side, we will be victorius
L654[17:03:47] <Inari> I wish I could believe that was an actual presentation
L655[17:09:58] <Ariri> I wouldnt be surprised if it actually was, assuming what the time traveler said was true
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L660[17:29:48] <NotBob> Imagine being the senior employee in charge of that
L661[17:31:56] <Zef> Should I invest in like name brand thermal paste or should I just buy some cheaper stuff off ebay
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L666[17:59:11] <enbyspaghetti> hey all! need some help with the internet card
L667[17:59:50] <enbyspaghetti> i run a server, and have http requests allowed - but the internet card seems to be unable to make requests?
L668[18:00:09] <enbyspaghetti> it gives a false on .finishConnect() and a nil on .response()
L669[18:00:14] <enbyspaghetti> for any address i throw at it
L670[18:03:34] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L671[18:03:34] <MichiBot> By my throth! CompanionCube! You beat SquidDev's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 47 minutes and 48 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L672[18:03:35] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 2 hours, 47 minutes and 48 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.0028 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L673[18:34:14] <scj643> Has anyone made a vim like text editor
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L676[18:59:04] <alexandria> I've taken a stab at it
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L679[19:31:20] <paradoxical> noice
L680[19:31:23] <paradoxical> exit
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L683[19:31:51] <Paradoxical> cool
L684[19:31:51] <Paradoxical> connecting to #oc via oc irc
L685[19:37:14] <FullMetalJuggernaut> Hello..haven't been here in awile
L686[19:37:30] <FullMetalJuggernaut> How to I use open ITC again....?
L687[19:38:36] <FullMetalJuggernaut> How to I use open IRC again....? [Edited]
L688[19:40:28] <Ariri> use your IRC client program
L689[19:40:39] <Ariri> whatever it may be
L690[19:40:39] <Ariri> HexChat, IRCloud, etc
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L692[19:42:53] <FullMetalJuggernaut> Going to do it in open computers
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L695[19:51:49] <mariojug> hello
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L697[19:52:03] <mariojug> Hey I got it to work!
L698[19:52:12] <mariojug> Again
L699[19:53:28] <Kodos> Fucking hell Mechwarrior 5 Mercenaries is ***delayed*** and it's EGS exclusive now
L700[19:54:54] <mariojug> On the spic store
L701[19:55:02] <mariojug> *epic
L702[19:55:37] <mariojug> How does Epic games keep doing this shit
L703[19:55:44] <mariojug> ?
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L706[20:33:06] <The_Stargazer> I just realized something
L707[20:33:22] <The_Stargazer> Encrypting a connection you can't spy on is pointless
L708[20:33:53] <The_Stargazer> at least, to my knowledge, GERTi sockets are: Computer A -> MNC -> Computer B
L709[20:35:10] <The_Stargazer> also: can you daisychain ethernet cables?
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L711[20:40:44] <The_Stargazer> %tonk
L712[20:40:45] <MichiBot> I'm sorry The_Stargazer, you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 2 hours, 47 minutes and 48 seconds this time. 2 hours, 37 minutes and 10 seconds were wasted! Missed by 10 minutes and 38 seconds!
L713[20:40:49] <The_Stargazer> damn
L714[20:41:18] <CompanionCube> my tonk plans are ruined now :(
L715[20:41:49] <The_Stargazer> rip the tonk plans
L716[20:42:03] <The_Stargazer> Is it a good idea to allow logging to files?
L717[20:42:06] <Paradoxical> ok I'm out of the loop what the heck is %tonk and %tonkout
L718[20:42:16] <The_Stargazer> (instead of just onscreen)
L719[20:43:07] <The_Stargazer> can you have `:` and `/` in filenames?
L720[20:43:22] <The_Stargazer> don't think so
L721[20:43:34] <Paradoxical> no, I believe `:` isn't allowed, and `/` is always directory separator
L722[20:43:35] <CompanionCube> well, : maybe
L723[20:43:56] <The_Stargazer> Yes but it breaks horribly
L724[20:44:11] <CompanionCube> Windows has 'reserved' characters
L725[20:44:15] <The_Stargazer> `C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\OCEmu/[path]`
L726[20:44:17] <CompanionCube> but fuck windows
L727[20:44:33] <The_Stargazer> it saved it THERE?
L728[20:44:36] <The_Stargazer> ? weird
L729[20:44:37] <Paradoxical> ext > ntfs
L730[20:44:50] <The_Stargazer> ^
L731[20:45:22] <CompanionCube> anyway, you tonk by bestin
L732[20:45:30] <CompanionCube> *besting tne current record
L733[20:45:47] <CompanionCube> as measured by the last %tonk
L734[20:46:10] <CompanionCube> you can convert a passed record to tonkpoints with %tonkout
L735[20:46:42] <CompanionCube> you get more points from %tonkout if the record-holding %tonk is yours.
L736[20:46:45] <The_Stargazer> is it possible to build OCVM on a mac?
L737[20:47:01] <The_Stargazer> (with clang)
L738[20:47:12] <Paradoxical> well, probably
L739[20:47:19] <The_Stargazer> I mean, G++ should work as the mac has 8GB RAM
L740[20:47:34] <Paradoxical> you may need to use brew to get g++
L741[20:47:35] <The_Stargazer> compared to my VM's 1.5GiB
L742[20:47:46] <Paradoxical> and also svn
L743[20:47:57] <The_Stargazer> alright
L744[20:48:02] <The_Stargazer> because on my VM
L745[20:48:02] <CompanionCube> svn?
L746[20:48:04] <CompanionCube> lol
L747[20:48:15] <The_Stargazer> OCVM says `Segmentation fault (core dumped)`
L748[20:48:25] <Paradoxical> http://tinyurl.com/yxl4dqru
L749[20:48:27] <The_Stargazer> and I'm wondering if the same will happen on my friend's macbook
L750[20:49:01] <CompanionCube> well, it'd be a good idea to see why it's segfault
L751[20:49:08] <The_Stargazer> I don't know why
L752[20:49:11] <The_Stargazer> Nothing else is printed
L753[20:49:20] <CompanionCube> if you have gdb installed the backtrace would be useful.
L754[20:49:25] <The_Stargazer> gdb?
L755[20:49:38] <CompanionCube> standard debugger for linux
L756[20:49:41] <The_Stargazer> ah
L757[20:49:45] <The_Stargazer> works on ubuntu server?
L758[20:49:46] <CompanionCube> not great at UI
L759[20:50:06] <CompanionCube> well yes, it's primarily CLI-driven
L760[20:50:11] <The_Stargazer> ok good
L761[20:50:15] <The_Stargazer> all I have is a terminal
L762[20:50:36] <CompanionCube> (in your case 'gdb <myprog>' 'r' and wait for it to segfault and cough up a backtrace)
L763[20:50:39] <The_Stargazer> so I'll `sudo apt install gdb`
L764[20:50:55] <The_Stargazer> and then run
L765[20:51:01] <The_Stargazer> `gdb ./ocvm r`?
L766[20:51:05] <CompanionCube> no
L767[20:51:08] <CompanionCube> 'r
L768[20:51:12] <The_Stargazer> so
L769[20:51:16] <The_Stargazer> `gdb ./ocvm 'r'`?
L770[20:51:24] <CompanionCube> 'r' is a GDB command, short for 'run'
L771[20:51:47] <The_Stargazer> ah
L772[20:53:01] <The_Stargazer> >4kb/s
L773[20:53:22] <The_Stargazer> is installing
L774[20:53:26] <The_Stargazer> ran `apt install gdb`
L775[20:53:31] <The_Stargazer> before you yell at me about `sudo`
L776[20:53:37] <The_Stargazer> `apt` is an alias for `sudo apt`
L777[20:53:43] <AmandaC> CompanionCube: the makefile uses github
L778[20:53:43] <CompanionCube> neat
L779[20:53:50] <AdorableCatgirl> neat ig
L780[20:54:00] <AdorableCatgirl> oh wait
L781[20:54:02] <AdorableCatgirl> i forgot to mention
L782[20:54:03] <CompanionCube> AmandaC: yeah it's a nice trick i fuess
L783[20:54:05] <The_Stargazer> because linux mint's apt sudo's itself
L784[20:54:07] <AdorableCatgirl> ***i use arch btw***
L785[20:54:08] <AmandaC> CompanionCube: the makefile uses github's svn support to do a partial checkout of the OC repo for the loot disks
L786[20:54:11] <The_Stargazer> I tried arch
L787[20:54:15] <The_Stargazer> It seems alright
L788[20:54:36] <AdorableCatgirl> wait what
L789[20:54:37] <AmandaC> %8ball raintime?
L790[20:54:37] <MichiBot> AmandaC: My reply is no
L791[20:54:37] <The_Stargazer> you'd probably use `pacman -S gdb`
L792[20:54:38] <The_Stargazer> is that the right command?
L793[20:54:42] <AdorableCatgirl> you don't think it's the god of all distros?
L794[20:54:43] <AdorableCatgirl> wow
L795[20:54:46] <AdorableCatgirl> /s
L796[20:54:50] <The_Stargazer> haha
L797[20:54:50] <AdorableCatgirl> memes aside
L798[20:55:05] <AdorableCatgirl> yea, `sudo pacman -S(y) gdb`
L799[20:55:07] <AdorableCatgirl> iirc
L800[20:55:24] <AdorableCatgirl> speaking of `-Sy`
L801[20:55:30] <AdorableCatgirl> time to do an `-Syu`
L802[20:55:33] <AdorableCatgirl> :GWnoneMeguDed:
L803[20:55:39] <The_Stargazer> what's `-y`
L804[20:55:44] <The_Stargazer> and what's `-Syu`
L805[20:56:05] <CompanionCube> A -Syu = 'apt upgrade'
L806[20:56:15] <CompanionCube> (and also 'apt update')
L807[20:56:15] <AdorableCatgirl> `-y` is sync databases, `-Syu` is update all packages
L808[20:56:39] <The_Stargazer> the hell http://tinyurl.com/y6ovnspg
L809[20:56:42] <The_Stargazer> uh
L810[20:56:45] <The_Stargazer> goddamnit
L811[20:56:51] <AdorableCatgirl> this always makes me feel good http://tinyurl.com/y68xu8qb
L812[20:56:56] <The_Stargazer> this http://tinyurl.com/y6tf8qzj
L813[20:57:04] <AdorableCatgirl> net upgrade size is negative B)
L814[20:57:19] <The_Stargazer> what's an `FPDMA`
L815[20:57:33] <AdorableCatgirl> might be a faulty hdd cable
L816[20:57:38] <CompanionCube> apparently your disk was so slow it gave up
L817[20:57:45] <AdorableCatgirl> or vbox is shitting itself
L818[20:58:01] <The_Stargazer> `gdb ./ocvm 'r'` = `/home/prisma/ocvm/r: No such file or directory`
L819[20:58:09] <AdorableCatgirl> okay
L820[20:58:09] <AdorableCatgirl> so
L821[20:58:14] <AdorableCatgirl> here's the meme
L822[20:58:18] <CompanionCube> use 'r' *after* the first command
L823[20:58:23] <AdorableCatgirl> `gdb ./ocvm`
L824[20:58:27] <AdorableCatgirl> then `r`
L825[20:58:35] <The_Stargazer> OH
L826[20:58:53] <The_Stargazer> it prints some stuff I can't see because it goes too fast
L827[20:58:58] <The_Stargazer> and then clears the screen
L828[20:59:03] <The_Stargazer> can you pipe gdb output to a file?
L829[20:59:14] <The_Stargazer> what I do see is this http://tinyurl.com/y56vtgw2
L830[20:59:20] <The_Stargazer> GODDAMNIT
L831[20:59:25] <CompanionCube> ...wait yeah, gdb will fight with ocvm over ncurses
L832[20:59:32] <The_Stargazer> THIS http://tinyurl.com/y4djs6b8
L833[21:00:15] <Izaya> >using the console
L834[21:00:16] <Izaya> [x] ow
L835[21:00:23] <The_Stargazer> >have nothing else
L836[21:00:50] <The_Stargazer> [x] big ow
L837[21:00:57] <CompanionCube> did you not bother to setup ssh
L838[21:01:07] <The_Stargazer> isn't ssh just a console?
L839[21:01:24] <The_Stargazer> what's the point of sshing into a VM that's running on my computer
L840[21:01:35] <CompanionCube> because the linux console kinda sucks
L841[21:01:49] <The_Stargazer> but ssh is the console, no?
L842[21:01:56] <AdorableCatgirl> yeah but you can copy/paste
L843[21:01:58] <CompanionCube> compared to a nice graphical terminal emulator
L844[21:01:59] <AdorableCatgirl> from SSH
L845[21:01:59] <Izaya> copy and paste is nice to have
L846[21:02:08] <Paradoxical> @AdorableCatgirl
L847[21:02:08] <Paradoxical> just make sure to occasionally run `pacman -Scc` to clear the cache (which takes up a heck ton of space)
L848[21:02:12] <AdorableCatgirl> ...i use micro btw
L849[21:02:22] <The_Stargazer> also idk how to enable ssh on my vm :/
L850[21:02:26] <AdorableCatgirl> @Paradoxical Yea but I have 1TB of storage :P
L851[21:02:26] <The_Stargazer> well
L852[21:02:33] <The_Stargazer> how to actually ssh in
L853[21:02:36] <The_Stargazer> because it's a VM
L854[21:02:43] <The_Stargazer> and so it won't be 127.0.0.1
L855[21:02:43] <AdorableCatgirl> i've got a fuckton of HDD space on my comfy laptop
L856[21:02:46] <Paradoxical> well, still, I have 1.5TB and over a year of having this computer it's almost gone
L857[21:02:53] <CompanionCube> ifconfig for the IP
L858[21:02:56] <The_Stargazer> >laptop
L859[21:02:56] <The_Stargazer> >1tb
L860[21:03:01] <AdorableCatgirl> yeah
L861[21:03:04] <AdorableCatgirl> WD Blue
L862[21:03:04] <The_Stargazer> E N V Y
L863[21:03:13] <AdorableCatgirl> tbh i got this HDD for free
L864[21:03:13] <The_Stargazer> i have a tiny emmc chip
L865[21:03:23] <AdorableCatgirl> found it in a laptop i found in a dumpster
L866[21:03:32] <Izaya> imagine having more than 120GB in anything but servers
L867[21:03:35] <AdorableCatgirl> it was one of those dells that had bad mobos
L868[21:03:36] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: based
L869[21:03:59] <AdorableCatgirl> so i got 16GB of DDR3 and a 1TB HDD
L870[21:04:00] <The_Stargazer> oh hey I've got an old dell that was given to me
L871[21:04:00] <The_Stargazer> dimension 3000
L872[21:04:03] <The_Stargazer> so like, old old
L873[21:04:11] <AdorableCatgirl> *SODIMM DDR3
L874[21:04:20] <AdorableCatgirl> sadly, my laptop takes DDR4 so
L875[21:04:26] <Paradoxical> I have 40G on my server (which used to have arch) which when I didn't clean the cache took up a **ton** of space
L876[21:04:28] <Izaya> mail it to me
L877[21:04:35] <The_Stargazer> why
L878[21:04:40] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: dunno if it werks lmao
L879[21:04:47] <The_Stargazer> it does
L880[21:04:50] <The_Stargazer> 1GB RAM
L881[21:04:53] <AdorableCatgirl> gonna test it in my comfy L745
L882[21:05:03] <CompanionCube> https://www.fayewilliams.com/2014/11/11/debug-ncurses-with-gdb-gdbserver-and-full-input-output/
L883[21:05:05] <Izaya> bumping up my X220 to 16GB would be excellent
L884[21:05:33] <The_Stargazer> can't have browser/vm open
L885[21:05:36] <CompanionCube> Izaya: someone's part of nfsgang/smbgang?
L886[21:05:46] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: Also, what CPU should I put in my L745? I want a cheap upgrade. It's got an i3-2330M iirc
L887[21:05:56] <AdorableCatgirl> also also, it's a fuckin godtier little laptop
L888[21:06:04] <Izaya> i5-2520M should be very common
L889[21:06:20] <AdorableCatgirl> great build quality, great touchpad, good keyboard
L890[21:06:29] <CompanionCube> it boils down to somethinf more complex involving gdbserver
L891[21:06:37] <AdorableCatgirl> and the 1366x768 screen doesn't feel like ass since it's a like 12 inch laptop or some shit
L892[21:06:58] <AdorableCatgirl> i need to order a panel for the ASUS F555, then yeet it into my X555
L893[21:07:04] <AdorableCatgirl> for the 1080p panel
L894[21:07:06] <Izaya> Had a Latitude with a 3rd gen Core i3 it was breddy gud
L895[21:07:15] <Izaya> Stole the SSD before I returned it to school
L896[21:07:23] <AdorableCatgirl> i had a Dell Vostro 3700
L897[21:07:29] <AdorableCatgirl> with the i5-560M
L898[21:07:34] <AdorableCatgirl> it was a big yikes
L899[21:07:40] <AdorableCatgirl> overheated
L900[21:07:46] <AdorableCatgirl> a lot
L901[21:07:52] <Paradoxical> also here's my terminal on my server cause I can http://tinyurl.com/y4jwkhq3
L902[21:07:56] <AdorableCatgirl> oh here we go
L903[21:08:20] <AdorableCatgirl> >talking about servers
L904[21:08:21] <Izaya> First gen stuff is painful
L905[21:08:23] <AdorableCatgirl> here we go
L906[21:08:25] <AdorableCatgirl> and yea
L907[21:08:29] <Paradoxical> **SERVERS**
L908[21:08:33] <AdorableCatgirl> i5-560M puts out way to much heat
L909[21:08:46] <AdorableCatgirl> then again
L910[21:08:52] <Izaya> i3 320M or so, cooked vital organs if used as a laptop
L911[21:08:54] <AdorableCatgirl> it can't match the Celeron 900 :^)
L912[21:09:42] <AdorableCatgirl> webhosting http://tinyurl.com/y2vv75dw
L913[21:10:12] <AdorableCatgirl> gamehosting http://tinyurl.com/yylotvb4
L914[21:10:24] <AdorableCatgirl> i have another server which is only accessable through deja-vu but w/e
L915[21:11:09] <AdorableCatgirl> it's hooked up via serial so yea
L916[21:11:33] <The_Stargazer> no segfault
L917[21:11:46] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: i5-560M w/ an aluminum chassis was pain
L918[21:11:52] <AdorableCatgirl> some genius at dell thought
L919[21:11:59] <Izaya> :D
L920[21:12:05] <AdorableCatgirl> "yea, let's make the vent metal too"
L921[21:12:13] <AdorableCatgirl> "all one piece"
L922[21:12:21] <AdorableCatgirl> you touch it
L923[21:12:39] <AdorableCatgirl> it was big YOUCH
L924[21:12:44] <The_Stargazer> all I bloody want
L925[21:12:44] <The_Stargazer> is to connect two opencomputers emulators together so I can test my GERTi client/server setup
L926[21:12:49] <The_Stargazer> why is this so hard
L927[21:13:06] <AdorableCatgirl> because
L928[21:13:10] <AdorableCatgirl> you didn't install arch linux
L929[21:13:12] <AdorableCatgirl> :^)
L930[21:13:24] <The_Stargazer> I doubt that'd fix it
L931[21:13:32] <AdorableCatgirl> tbh i love how people on discord don't get the full effects of my shitposting in IRC
L932[21:13:34] <The_Stargazer> how lightweight is arch?
L933[21:13:37] <AdorableCatgirl> because i use color so much
L934[21:13:38] <Paradoxical> obligatory neofetch output http://tinyurl.com/y43edns4
L935[21:13:57] <AdorableCatgirl> >3.10
L936[21:14:01] <AdorableCatgirl> big yikes
L937[21:14:31] <AdorableCatgirl> arch is bretty good depending on how you set it up
L938[21:14:33] <The_Stargazer> *installing neofetch so I can post obligatory neofetch output as well*
L939[21:14:34] <AdorableCatgirl> i mean
L940[21:14:52] <AdorableCatgirl> you don't have to install a GUI or w/e so
L941[21:15:12] <AdorableCatgirl> >not having neofetch installed at all times
L942[21:15:15] <The_Stargazer> don't have to on ubuntu server either
L943[21:15:18] <AdorableCatgirl> smh my head
L944[21:15:34] <The_Stargazer> this might shock you guys but
L945[21:15:40] <The_Stargazer> I actually like Linux Mint
L946[21:15:45] <AdorableCatgirl> ubuntu more like ubongo
L947[21:16:10] <AdorableCatgirl> fuck
L948[21:16:14] <AdorableCatgirl> my IRC client died
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L951[21:16:36] <The_Stargazer> oh boy
L952[21:16:38] <The_Stargazer> out of disk space
L953[21:16:39] <AdorableCatgirl> big oof
L954[21:16:42] <AdorableCatgirl> HA
L955[21:16:47] <AdorableCatgirl> get a bigger disk ez
L956[21:16:59] <AdorableCatgirl> replace your disk drive with a hard drive
L957[21:17:01] <AdorableCatgirl> E Z
L958[21:17:05] <The_Stargazer> it's an eMMC chip
L959[21:17:09] <Izaya> https://nextcloud.shadowkat.net/s/dcFAWKK3RdfjmbW
L960[21:17:10] <The_Stargazer> it's soldered to the motherboard
L961[21:17:11] <AdorableCatgirl> get an expresscard solution E Z
L962[21:17:35] <AdorableCatgirl> wait does any laptop even have expresscard anymore
L963[21:17:47] <The_Stargazer> I have an SD card slot :/
L964[21:17:53] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: Nice
L965[21:17:55] <Izaya> The_Stargazer: mint is what I recommend to a lot of people new to loonix
L966[21:18:05] <The_Stargazer> neat
L967[21:18:10] <The_Stargazer> it's a meme on the discord linux server
L968[21:18:22] <AdorableCatgirl> i mean yea, linux mint is simple
L969[21:18:27] <AdorableCatgirl> thus it's a bit of a meme
L970[21:18:27] <The_Stargazer> mint's customization is good too
L971[21:18:30] <Izaya> s/server/guild/
L972[21:18:30] <MichiBot> <The_Stargazer> it's a meme on the discord linux guild
L973[21:18:36] <The_Stargazer> folder colours in windows when
L974[21:19:02] <The_Stargazer> obligatory
L975[21:19:07] <The_Stargazer> http://tinyurl.com/y6guegpe
L976[21:19:12] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: GT 220 tho
L977[21:19:13] <Paradoxical> holy shit michibot literally does sed
L978[21:19:31] <Izaya> only for display, no GUI
L979[21:19:42] <AdorableCatgirl> @The_Stargazer could you give me a few more pixels
L980[21:19:46] <Paradoxical> holy shit michibot literally does test [Edited]
L981[21:19:53] <The_Stargazer> that is as big as it will go
L982[21:20:02] <Paradoxical> holy shit michibot literally does sed [Edited]
L983[21:20:19] <AdorableCatgirl> also celeron is a big yikes
L984[21:20:26] <The_Stargazer> indeed
L985[21:20:30] <AdorableCatgirl> also i use zsh btw
L986[21:20:40] <AdorableCatgirl> /e nae nae
L987[21:20:48] <The_Stargazer> I've got a friend who uses Arch
L988[21:20:58] <The_Stargazer> he's the guy who helps me setup my arch installs
L989[21:21:05] <The_Stargazer> if I ever feel like an arch install
L990[21:21:08] <AdorableCatgirl> wait can i do the shitpost w/o a space using ^o
L991[21:21:12] <AdorableCatgirl> /e nae nae
L992[21:21:14] <AdorableCatgirl> YES
L993[21:21:26] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways
L994[21:21:29] <AdorableCatgirl> arch is ez
L995[21:21:32] <AdorableCatgirl> to install
L996[21:21:47] <The_Stargazer> virtualbox didn't support opencl so I didn't use arch
L997[21:21:51] <The_Stargazer> was gonna use it for a krist miner
L998[21:21:57] <The_Stargazer> (krist is like minecraft bitcoin)
L999[21:22:00] <AdorableCatgirl> wot
L1000[21:22:08] <AdorableCatgirl> but
L1001[21:22:08] <AdorableCatgirl> why
L1002[21:22:12] <The_Stargazer> idk
L1003[21:22:21] <AdorableCatgirl> why do we need crypto in fucking minecraft
L1004[21:22:22] <The_Stargazer> note to self: buy ethernet cable
L1005[21:22:26] <The_Stargazer> we don't/
L1006[21:22:29] <AdorableCatgirl> ***why***
L1007[21:22:31] <The_Stargazer> we don't. [Edited]
L1008[21:22:37] <The_Stargazer> ***i don't know***
L1009[21:22:38] <AdorableCatgirl> forgot IRC don't do that
L1010[21:22:44] <AdorableCatgirl> why
L1011[21:22:49] <Paradoxical> like just use a forking normal currency like resources in the game
L1012[21:22:59] <AdorableCatgirl> C R Y P T O M E M E
L1013[21:23:05] <The_Stargazer> or an economy plugin..
L1014[21:23:13] <The_Stargazer> its only used on one server iirc
L1015[21:23:23] <The_Stargazer> and that would be switchcraft
L1016[21:23:35] <AdorableCatgirl> oh speaking of minecraft servers
L1017[21:23:40] <AdorableCatgirl> my modded server is p fun
L1018[21:24:04] <The_Stargazer> note to self: buy ethernet cable today
L1019[21:24:05] <AdorableCatgirl> me and a friend are about to get B E D I N G O T S and have some godtier tools
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L1022[21:31:00] <The_Stargazer> hmm, CAT-6 or CAT-5?
L1023[21:31:14] <AdorableCatgirl> cat 69 B)
L1024[21:34:53] <Z0idburg> @The_Stargazer what are you doing?
L1025[21:35:02] <Z0idburg> I run cat6 through the house for data because it is cheap
L1026[21:35:10] <Z0idburg> but for telephones, don't use cat6
L1027[21:35:10] <The_Stargazer> connecting an old desktop with no wifi to my laptop
L1028[21:35:12] <The_Stargazer> which has wifi
L1029[21:35:20] <The_Stargazer> basically:
L1030[21:35:23] <Z0idburg> that won't matter
L1031[21:35:31] <The_Stargazer> mobile hotspot from phone -> laptop -> OMV NAS
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L1033[21:35:35] <Z0idburg> use whatever you have
L1034[21:35:51] <Z0idburg> long as its cat5e itl work fine even with gbit if it's < 50 feet
L1035[21:35:55] <The_Stargazer> I don't have any ethernet cables
L1036[21:36:07] <Z0idburg> make some
L1037[21:36:09] <The_Stargazer> (and my mobile data isn't gigabit)
L1038[21:36:12] <The_Stargazer> you can make them?
L1039[21:36:16] <The_Stargazer> ?
L1040[21:36:24] <Z0idburg> I usually have boxes of cat6 lying around
L1041[21:36:27] <Z0idburg> 500 - 1000 feet
L1042[21:36:28] <Z0idburg> per box
L1043[21:36:44] <Z0idburg> then you just use crimpers and connectors and make your own. if you do what I do get the passthrough connectors
L1044[21:36:59] <Z0idburg> so you just take the insulation off quick shove it through and beyond the crimpers will cut the ends of the wires off
L1045[21:37:05] <Z0idburg> makes cables super fast
L1046[21:37:33] <The_Stargazer> ethernet cables are RJ45 right?
L1047[21:37:44] <Z0idburg> most of the time
L1048[21:37:51] <Z0idburg> in your case yes
L1049[21:38:03] <Z0idburg> you can technically connectorize other stuff to them
L1050[21:38:44] <Z0idburg> there's tons of connectors that look like RJ45 that are not and are 8 wire
L1051[21:39:36] <Z0idburg> take a look at RJ49 and RJ61
L1052[21:40:07] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/yynz25x8
L1053[21:40:32] <Z0idburg> now RJ45
L1054[21:40:36] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/yxj4oduv
L1055[21:40:42] <Z0idburg> by the way this is what I was talking about
L1056[21:40:46] <Z0idburg> those are pass through connectors
L1057[21:40:48] <Z0idburg> they're AWESOME
L1058[21:41:24] <Z0idburg> you don't waste time shoving wires into the connector you just line them up and slip them all the way through and you get a special kind of crimper that has a razor blade on the end that just cuts it off at the end
L1059[21:41:56] <The_Stargazer> ` RJ45 to RJ45 connections 8P8C` is this what I need?
L1060[21:42:03] <Z0idburg> there's also modular plugs if you want to get really good gbit CAT-6 connections
L1061[21:42:08] <Z0idburg> but they're a pita
L1062[21:42:36] <Z0idburg> yes you need RJ45, a crimper, and one of the following: CAT3, CAT5, CAT5e, or CAT6
L1063[21:42:40] <Z0idburg> I recommend not using CAT3.
L1064[21:42:44] <Z0idburg> CAT3 is useful for phone lines.
L1065[21:43:00] <Z0idburg> I almost think they're the same guage
L1066[21:43:06] <The_Stargazer> what's a crimper?
L1067[21:43:07] <Z0idburg> cat5 and beyond are different
L1068[21:43:13] <The_Stargazer> i'd rather not make my own cable
L1069[21:43:25] <The_Stargazer> https://www.bunnings.co.nz/antsig-1m-blue-cat6-electrical-cable_p00226788
L1070[21:43:25] <The_Stargazer> will this cable work
L1071[21:43:28] <Z0idburg> heres the one I use:
L1072[21:43:29] <Z0idburg> https://www.amazon.com/connectorsProfessional-Performance-Connector-connectors-Connectors/dp/B07D3DGZ97/ref=asc_df_B07D3DGZ97/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=242037806074&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8511638061528596333&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9002654&hvtargid=pla-475726390498&psc=1
L1073[21:43:32] <Z0idburg> its cheap and works well
L1074[21:43:59] <Z0idburg> the thing about making your own ethernet cables is that sometimes you find you want a 200 foot cable
L1075[21:44:03] <Z0idburg> and you can make one fast
L1076[21:44:09] <Z0idburg> and cheap
L1077[21:44:26] <Z0idburg> 500 to 1000 feet boxes can easily be gotten for $100 aboit
L1078[21:44:28] <Z0idburg> about*
L1079[21:44:52] <The_Stargazer> distance from OMV NAS <-> laptop: a couple 30cm rulers if that
L1080[21:45:06] <The_Stargazer> so about maybe 1m
L1081[21:45:31] <Z0idburg> how do you not have spare cables to do that
L1082[21:45:50] <The_Stargazer> I don't have ANY ethernet cables.
L1083[21:45:52] <AdorableCatgirl> lol
L1084[21:46:06] <AdorableCatgirl> i have a 50ft cat5e
L1085[21:46:11] <The_Stargazer> I suppose I could try and dig around for one but i cba
L1086[21:46:51] <The_Stargazer> @Z0idburg will that cable from bunnings work
L1087[21:47:04] <Z0idburg> I find a lot of customers say they don't, and then come to find out they were idiots and used the existing cable they already had between their router and modem when they replaced their router and wondered why it wasn't working well
L1088[21:47:18] <Z0idburg> instead of using the new one, so they have a spare in some box somewhere the router came in
L1089[21:47:31] <The_Stargazer> don't have a router either.
L1090[21:47:32] <Z0idburg> bunnings?
L1091[21:47:36] <The_Stargazer> yes, bunnings.
L1092[21:47:50] <The_Stargazer> i mean there's an old router behind the fridge but idk when that was last turned on
L1093[21:47:59] <The_Stargazer> and i'd rather not cause an electrical fire
L1094[21:48:09] <AdorableCatgirl> ...
L1095[21:48:13] <The_Stargazer> from turning something covered in dust and crap on
L1096[21:48:16] <Z0idburg> I don't think I saw a cable from bunnings
L1097[21:48:20] <The_Stargazer> https://www.bunnings.co.nz/antsig-1m-blue-cat6-electrical-cable_p00226788
L1098[21:48:20] <The_Stargazer> this
L1099[21:48:26] <Z0idburg> oh that
L1100[21:48:39] <Z0idburg> why not but it is 1 meter for $5 lol
L1101[21:48:48] <Z0idburg> I guess it's not horrible
L1102[21:48:54] <Z0idburg> you can find them here for 20 USD easy
L1103[21:48:54] <AdorableCatgirl> tbh
L1104[21:48:58] <The_Stargazer> i only need about 1m
L1105[21:49:09] <Z0idburg> so I guess $5 isn't horrible
L1106[21:49:15] <Z0idburg> itl work fine
L1107[21:49:31] <The_Stargazer> theres a $9 3m cable
L1108[21:49:32] <AdorableCatgirl> i got some cheap af ethernet cable at home depot lmao
L1109[21:49:41] <The_Stargazer> and a 2m cable for ~$6
L1110[21:49:56] <The_Stargazer> $6.98... so, basically $7
L1111[21:51:56] <The_Stargazer> ethernet over HDMI? ?
L1112[21:52:56] <Z0idburg> you could
L1113[21:53:00] <Z0idburg> ethernet isn't the type of cable
L1114[21:53:28] <Z0idburg> it's just one protocol that is sometimes (and often) used going through the cable
L1115[21:53:44] <Z0idburg> I find it funny we call them ethernet cables sometimes
L1116[21:53:50] <Z0idburg> Wifi uses Ethernet
L1117[21:54:13] <The_Stargazer> wait, what
L1118[21:56:37] <Z0idburg> What is so surprising
L1119[21:56:49] <Z0idburg> Let me ask you this
L1120[21:56:54] <The_Stargazer> isn't wifi wireless and ethernet wired
L1121[21:57:11] <Z0idburg> you connect a cat5 cable to a cisco router that has rollover serial port which is RJ45 anyways last I checked
L1122[21:57:19] <Z0idburg> but it's not ethernet going over that cable
L1123[21:57:23] <The_Stargazer> a rollover what port
L1124[21:57:30] <Z0idburg> it's actually usually tether cable tbh
L1125[21:57:32] <Z0idburg> but you can use cat5
L1126[21:57:36] <The_Stargazer> (also never used cisco)
L1127[21:58:01] <The_Stargazer> iirc cat6 can carry audio (and possibly video)
L1128[21:58:07] <The_Stargazer> and cat5
L1129[21:58:07] <Z0idburg> rollover is a wiring layout
L1130[21:58:10] <The_Stargazer> ah
L1131[21:58:18] <Z0idburg> it's when you take each wire and flip it the other way
L1132[21:58:22] <The_Stargazer> oh
L1133[21:58:25] <Z0idburg> so for example if you start with blue you end with blue
L1134[21:58:28] <Z0idburg> on the other end
L1135[21:58:32] <Z0idburg> it's just backwards
L1136[21:58:36] <The_Stargazer> ohh
L1137[21:58:53] <Z0idburg> on the routers, what gets transmitted on these cables is serial data
L1138[21:59:06] <Z0idburg> Ethernet is serial too, but I'm talking like RS232 or RS45 style
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L1140[21:59:29] <The_Stargazer> so cat6 and cat5 are just data cables pretty much?
L1141[21:59:52] <Z0idburg> cat6 and cat5 regulates the wiring characteristics
L1142[22:00:08] <Z0idburg> cat6 is fairly high guage wire (it's smaller)
L1143[22:00:18] <Z0idburg> there's some other attributes
L1144[22:00:32] <Z0idburg> you will also fine some cables are UTP and some are STP, some are not TP at all
L1145[22:00:45] <Z0idburg> the U stands for unshielded, S shielded, TP is twisted pair
L1146[22:01:10] <The_Stargazer> so if you modify a CAT-5 or CAT-6 cable, it can carry anything?
L1147[22:01:17] <Z0idburg> the non twisted pair stuff is for things like rollover and usually come in flat tether cable like insulation molding
L1148[22:01:25] <AdorableCatgirl> well yeah @The_Stargazer
L1149[22:01:26] <Z0idburg> yes
L1150[22:01:28] <AdorableCatgirl> wires are wires
L1151[22:01:39] <The_Stargazer> is literally just a wire
L1152[22:01:42] <Z0idburg> whatever you do do not use cat6 for telephone cables in your house
L1153[22:01:53] <The_Stargazer> why? not that I have any need to
L1154[22:02:02] <Z0idburg> cat5 is acceptable but CAT6 is a vastly different impedence
L1155[22:02:05] <AdorableCatgirl> ^
L1156[22:02:09] <The_Stargazer> are telephone ports RJ45 too?
L1157[22:02:15] <AdorableCatgirl> phone lines are very sensitive to impedence iirc
L1158[22:02:16] <Z0idburg> I used cat5 because its what I had
L1159[22:02:23] <Z0idburg> iits close but not as perfect as CAT3
L1160[22:02:31] <AdorableCatgirl> phone lines are RJ42?
L1161[22:02:31] <Z0idburg> yes. that's because phone lines are passive
L1162[22:02:45] <Z0idburg> you're transmitting signals several miles at times
L1163[22:02:58] <Z0idburg> and the phones dont' have to be powered at all
L1164[22:02:59] <AdorableCatgirl> no i'm an idiot
L1165[22:03:05] <Z0idburg> RJ11 usually
L1166[22:03:17] <AdorableCatgirl> rj11
L1167[22:03:20] <AdorableCatgirl> yeah
L1168[22:03:32] <The_Stargazer> ok i'mma go dig around for an ethernet cable
L1169[22:03:34] <Z0idburg> I connected RJ11 to the CAT5
L1170[22:03:34] <The_Stargazer> be back in a bit
L1171[22:03:35] <Z0idburg> works fine
L1172[22:03:35] <The_Stargazer> afk
L1173[22:03:44] <Z0idburg> you just use two pairs
L1174[22:03:51] <Z0idburg> one pair if you never want to use line 2
L1175[22:04:09] <Z0idburg> and then in my basement I have cat5 going from the NID outside the house into a 66 block
L1176[22:04:22] <Z0idburg> and from the 66 block every phone jack in the house.
L1177[22:04:56] <Z0idburg> I also have a a SIP ATA feeding SIP IP phone traffic into the 66 block as well as line 2
L1178[22:05:09] <Z0idburg> so line 1 is an analog real POTS phone line but line 2 is an internet phone line
L1179[22:05:33] <Z0idburg> my old at&T phone has two phone lines so I just run the SIP ata output to it that way
L1180[22:05:40] <Z0idburg> and if you press line 2 you make a phone call over the Internet
L1181[22:05:48] <Z0idburg> using a regular old telephone
L1182[22:06:42] <AdorableCatgirl> pretty neat tbh
L1183[22:06:53] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways, i should work on my filesystems lmao
L1184[22:07:10] <AdorableCatgirl> i got one jank as fuck filesystem and one that i'm carefully planning out
L1185[22:09:46] <Z0idburg> filesystems?
L1186[22:10:03] <Z0idburg> for OC?
L1187[22:10:43] <AdorableCatgirl> yea
L1188[22:10:47] <AdorableCatgirl> unmanaged drives
L1189[22:11:17] <Z0idburg> good
L1190[22:11:21] <Z0idburg> we need more of those
L1191[22:11:26] <Z0idburg> I haven't finished the details of mine
L1192[22:11:32] <AdorableCatgirl> one is supposed to be my "boot partition"
L1193[22:11:34] <Z0idburg> but I decided to go a bit unusual
L1194[22:11:54] <AdorableCatgirl> something i can easily throw a driver of into an EEPROM
L1195[22:12:33] <Z0idburg> I came to realize how much better it was to not worry about filesystem integration as much as block access
L1196[22:12:46] <Z0idburg> so I decided to write more of a filesystem that works like a partition table instead
L1197[22:12:54] <AdorableCatgirl> lmao
L1198[22:12:58] * Izaya gives S3 Venti
L1199[22:13:00] <AdorableCatgirl> already got my partition table tbh
L1200[22:13:01] <Z0idburg> instead of using hard allocated limits however, it uses quotas
L1201[22:13:15] <Z0idburg> so for example lets say you make 5 partitions
L1202[22:13:29] <Z0idburg> and set one to like 1MB
L1203[22:13:34] <AmandaC> I never managed to remember to look into wtf Venti was, care to elaborate Izaya?
L1204[22:13:37] <Z0idburg> it doesnt take up 1MB of space at all
L1205[22:13:43] <Z0idburg> instead it sets a block quota to 1MB
L1206[22:13:45] <Izaya> sounds like classic MacOS partitions S3
L1207[22:13:51] <Z0idburg> partitions interlace eachother
L1208[22:13:55] <Izaya> AmandaC: http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/venti/
L1209[22:14:00] <Z0idburg> No idea, iIzaya
L1210[22:14:11] <AdorableCatgirl> will explain my jank partition in a bit
L1211[22:14:14] <Izaya> they were flexible as opposed to being fixed
L1212[22:14:24] <AdorableCatgirl> my planned out one is more like ext2
L1213[22:14:32] <AdorableCatgirl> but w/e
L1214[22:14:57] <AdorableCatgirl> the jank one should be simple to read but holy fuck do it be jank as fuck, not recommended for large partitions
L1215[22:15:15] <Izaya> AdorableCatgirl: just read your /boot into tmp
L1216[22:15:26] <Izaya> :^)
L1217[22:16:31] <AmandaC> Izaya: ah, interesting, just read the first couple paragraphs
L1218[22:16:41] <AdorableCatgirl> so using a 128KB partition, 1.5KB would be used already due to the J A N K
L1219[22:17:04] <AdorableCatgirl> wait
L1220[22:17:10] <AdorableCatgirl> sec i think i did my math wrong
L1221[22:17:14] <AdorableCatgirl> it'd be 1KB iirc
L1222[22:17:26] <AdorableCatgirl> yeah
L1223[22:17:28] <AdorableCatgirl> 1KB
L1224[22:17:53] <Z0idburg> heh
L1225[22:18:26] <AmandaC> %8ball computer?
L1226[22:18:26] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Outlook not so good
L1227[22:18:30] <AmandaC> I concur
L1228[22:18:30] <Z0idburg> the reason why I did what I did Izaya is because I find it important that software has block level access as low as possible
L1229[22:18:49] <Z0idburg> but still with some sort of basic abstraction even if optional
L1230[22:21:09] <Izaya> https://i.4cdn.org/o/1564128098395.jpg
L1231[22:22:03] <Z0idburg> Remember Trotwood uses the actor model and passes messages like letters , and if you have a partition driver and a filesystem driiver, that is at least two processes you have to wait for to process the data
L1232[22:22:26] <Z0idburg> so by mixing filesystem and partition functions you eliminate one IPC message
L1233[22:22:34] <Z0idburg> Trotwood has a lot of performance tweaks like that
L1234[22:22:55] <Z0idburg> The VFS especially
L1235[22:23:00] <AdorableCatgirl> actually
L1236[22:23:09] <AdorableCatgirl> i just realized
L1237[22:23:50] <AdorableCatgirl> i could probably shrink the amt of space the fs uses a bit
L1238[22:23:55] <Z0idburg> thats why when you open() a file in Trotwood you don't get a file handle, instead you get a PID to the driver process for that file
L1239[22:23:56] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways, how it works
L1240[22:25:36] <AdorableCatgirl> first of all, there's a map of all the sectors in the partition, and what entry each one points to
L1241[22:26:10] <AdorableCatgirl> 0xFFFF is free
L1242[22:26:59] <AdorableCatgirl> the first sector of an entry always contains the file metadata
L1243[22:28:46] <AdorableCatgirl> and at the end of said sector, if the entry doesn't fit, it has the number of the next sector pf the file
L1244[22:29:19] <AdorableCatgirl> none of the rest have metadata ofc, but can point to other sectors for larger files
L1245[22:29:28] <AdorableCatgirl> jank but it should™ work
L1246[22:31:59] <Z0idburg> Would you think I am evil if I said the Trotwood filesystem's filesystem table is a normal file in the filesystem itself?
L1247[22:32:10] <Z0idburg> There is no difference
L1248[22:32:23] <AdorableCatgirl> neat tbh
L1249[22:32:38] <Z0idburg> it's just the magic of having a low level filesystem design
L1250[22:32:44] <The_Stargazer> like `/etc/fstab`?
L1251[22:32:58] <Z0idburg> no.
L1252[22:32:58] <AdorableCatgirl> Tsuki's main filesystem, FoxFS, is based off of ext2 so lmao
L1253[22:33:04] <Z0idburg> the file entry table stargazer
L1254[22:33:22] <Z0idburg> the part of the hard drive that tells you what files are what and where they are all on disk, is a FILE ITSELF
L1255[22:33:29] <The_Stargazer> oh
L1256[22:33:36] <Z0idburg> because magic
L1257[22:33:47] <The_Stargazer> ARGH
L1258[22:33:51] <AdorableCatgirl> the jank filesystem is called ProximaFS, mainly to be used by Zorya on an unmanaged disk
L1259[22:33:55] <The_Stargazer> why is minecraft overlapping with my taskbar in fullscreen?!
L1260[22:34:00] <The_Stargazer> like if I click at the bottom
L1261[22:34:02] <The_Stargazer> it clicks the taskbar
L1262[22:34:15] <Z0idburg> I cheat a little. It works because the filesystem table is the first file on disk
L1263[22:34:33] <Z0idburg> and since fragmentation is wished for on purpose, it interlaces with other file data instead of being sequential
L1264[22:34:35] <The_Stargazer> windows has weird taskbar issues
L1265[22:34:39] <The_Stargazer> fullscreen videos dont hide the taskbar
L1266[22:34:44] <Z0idburg> it always has
L1267[22:34:47] <AdorableCatgirl> also
L1268[22:35:07] <Izaya> Hey S3, thoughts on getting a CT110 for when my ZZR250 is unworkable for whatever reason? They're the most common bike in Aus and are dead simple so I'm thinking it'd make a good backup given I don't have a car license and no manual to learn in.
L1269[22:35:08] <AdorableCatgirl> defragging ProximaFS shouldn't be *too* bad
L1270[22:35:27] <AdorableCatgirl> as long as your filesystem is a reasonable size (max of like 128KB)
L1271[22:35:38] <AdorableCatgirl> actually maybe 256KB
L1272[22:35:42] <Izaya> that's a pretty small fs
L1273[22:36:07] <Z0idburg> I pretend that the time it takes to read all files is always O(1) + O(n) + 1 operation
L1274[22:36:15] <Z0idburg> er take off the +1
L1275[22:36:32] <AdorableCatgirl> Izaya: Well yea, don't plan on making anything too huge for a boot FS
L1276[22:36:33] <Z0idburg> which means I also pretend that it takes the same time to locate all files
L1277[22:36:36] <Z0idburg> O(1)
L1278[22:37:01] <Z0idburg> locating file entries not the files themselves consists of hashing
L1279[22:37:26] <Z0idburg> so it always takes the same time to find every file
L1280[22:37:29] <Z0idburg> however
L1281[22:37:40] <Z0idburg> reading in a file is always O(n)
L1282[22:39:24] <AdorableCatgirl> anyways, ProximaFS+OSDI (my shitty partition table/drive library, open simple drive interface) should make loading Zorya on an unmanaged drive ez
L1283[22:39:41] <Z0idburg> how much work is it to port ProximaFS
L1284[22:40:13] <Z0idburg> Do you think it would survive running over a network?
L1285[22:41:50] <AdorableCatgirl> hm?
L1286[22:42:25] <AdorableCatgirl> i mean, FoxFS would be the better filesystem tbh
L1287[22:42:28] <Z0idburg> Well if I intended to use it
L1288[22:42:32] <AdorableCatgirl> ProximaFS is like
L1289[22:42:51] <Z0idburg> Because Trotwood likes to treat all unmanaged drives on the network as one disk
L1290[22:42:57] <AdorableCatgirl> bare minimum, really
L1291[22:42:58] <Z0idburg> across multiple nodes
L1292[22:43:15] <Z0idburg> you could be reading blocks from anywhere
L1293[22:43:20] <AdorableCatgirl> huh
L1294[22:43:41] <AdorableCatgirl> dunno how hard ProximaFS would be to port
L1295[22:44:13] <Z0idburg> however my partitioning system I'm trying to set it up so that the filesystem can be trained to put things on partitcular nodes for example I can place boot files and things on eah node they belong on so that if the other nodes arent running it will still boot
L1296[22:44:21] <AdorableCatgirl> i wanna made OSDI+ at some point, since i've actually got more than my fair share of internal projects using OSDI
L1297[22:46:31] <AdorableCatgirl> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ajufupoyob
L1298[22:47:19] <AdorableCatgirl> OSDI+ could support more partitions, variable (or non-existent) bootcode partition, and multiple drives
L1299[22:47:36] <AdorableCatgirl> *and* be backwards compatible with OSDI
L1300[22:52:00] <AdorableCatgirl> i have an idea of how i could do it too
L1301[22:52:54] <AdorableCatgirl> basically, have a partition on the master drive with an ID of `OSDI+CFG`
L1302[22:53:39] <AdorableCatgirl> and have extra metadata there
L1303[22:57:11] <AdorableCatgirl> tbh OSDI is better for normal computers, while OSDI+ would be good for servers
L1304[23:12:32] <AmandaC> %tell Inari no- tell her I said no tuna, only milk! https://i.imgur.com/MKHbVof.gifv
L1305[23:12:33] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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