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L1[00:04:57] <Izaya> the obligatory OC
addons I guess
L2[00:05:03] <Izaya> Computronics,
OpenSecurity, etc
L3[00:05:26]
<Zef>
~~OCdevices~~
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<The_Stargazer> @BohemianHacks
question
L6[00:06:01]
<The_Stargazer> how are the robots going to
boot?
L7[00:06:18]
<BohemianHacks> looking at mostly using
drones
L8[00:06:38]
<BohemianHacks> but thats a really broad
question, not sure what you mean
L10[00:07:04]
<Zef>
cease
L11[00:07:26]
<BohemianHacks> @The_Stargazer
L12[00:07:49] <Izaya> >cease megumin art
on the streets
L13[00:07:53] <Izaya> you, sir, are a
monster
L14[00:08:13]
<The_Stargazer> like
L15[00:08:21]
<The_Stargazer> how are you going to have
them boot?
L16[00:08:24]
<The_Stargazer> custom EEPROM?
L17[00:08:56]
<The_Stargazer> Izaya: what do you mean by
that? are you saying Zef is a monster for wanting that gone? if so,
I agree
L18[00:09:17] <Izaya> right
L19[00:09:29]
<The_Stargazer> what's wrong with megumin
art on the streets?
L20[00:09:45]
<BohemianHacks> yeah most of it will be on
eeprom, data intense stuff will be run on stationary
computers
L21[00:09:50]
<The_Stargazer> ah, okay
L22[00:09:58]
<The_Stargazer> remember:
L23[00:10:02]
<The_Stargazer> eeproms have a 4KB
limit
L24[00:10:05]
<The_Stargazer> so
L25[00:10:10]
<The_Stargazer> minify your code :)
L26[00:10:17]
<BohemianHacks> not worried about it
L27[00:10:25]
<BohemianHacks> >data intense stuff will
be run on stationary computers
L28[00:10:43] <Izaya> also >imagine
being limited to 4KB on devices without storage
L29[00:10:55]
<BohemianHacks> the actual robots and
drones only need to know how to follow basic orders
L30[00:11:23]
<BohemianHacks> the pathfinding and primary
task logic will all be on the "queen"
L31[00:11:26]
<The_Stargazer> ah
L32[00:11:32]
<The_Stargazer> will they network
connect?
L33[00:11:44]
<BohemianHacks> yeah
L34[00:11:50]
<The_Stargazer> remember: 400 block
limit
L35[00:11:58]
<BohemianHacks> lol yes, im aware
L36[00:12:01]
<The_Stargazer> so the queen will have to
stay within 400 blocks of the "swarm"
L37[00:12:03]
<The_Stargazer> ah good
L38[00:12:03] <Izaya> minitel negates that
anyway :^)
L39[00:12:05]
<BohemianHacks> naw
L40[00:12:08]
<BohemianHacks> relays are a thing
L41[00:12:11]
<The_Stargazer> minitel.. negates
that?!
L42[00:12:12]
<The_Stargazer> How?!
L43[00:12:17]
<The_Stargazer> How can I get around this
limit
L44[00:12:18]
<BohemianHacks> i assume by relaying
L46[00:12:22]
<The_Stargazer> Oh
L47[00:12:24]
<The_Stargazer> Right
L48[00:12:25] <Izaya> every node can also
route packets
L49[00:12:29]
<The_Stargazer> that's cool
L50[00:12:41]
<BohemianHacks> yeah, i made a few mesh
network experiments in computercraft
L51[00:12:42] <Izaya> with the right
network setup it's easy to avoid those issues
L52[00:12:51]
<BohemianHacks> none of that stuff is new
or scary to me ?
L53[00:13:07]
<BohemianHacks> its mostly that i need to
build up all the base functions before i can get to the fun
stuff
L54[00:13:23]
<BohemianHacks> so im going to play in
survival to take my time and have fun with it
L55[00:14:32]
<BohemianHacks> Im sure I will find a few
caveats and random things from the differences from CC
L56[00:14:51]
<BohemianHacks> OC in general seems much
more detailed and fun
L57[00:15:00]
<The_Stargazer> is there a way to implement
CC's libs in OC
L58[00:15:09]
<The_Stargazer> so that I can convince my
friend that
L59[00:15:16]
<The_Stargazer> "what does CC have
that OC doesn't"
L60[00:15:49]
<BohemianHacks> in a single word?
L61[00:15:52]
<BohemianHacks> balance
L62[00:16:03]
<The_Stargazer> well, OC is tiered
L63[00:16:08]
<The_Stargazer> CC is one-block
L64[00:16:11]
<The_Stargazer> how is CC balanced?
L65[00:16:15]
<BohemianHacks> CC is super OP if you are
even halfway competent coder
L66[00:16:23] *
Izaya shoves some redstone into a square of stone
L67[00:16:26] <Izaya> aha, a
computer!
L68[00:16:32]
<The_Stargazer> what I mean was
L69[00:16:40]
<The_Stargazer> what features does CC
have
L70[00:16:40]
<The_Stargazer> that OC does not already
have
L71[00:16:43]
<The_Stargazer> OC has balance
L72[00:16:44]
<The_Stargazer> CC doesn;t
L73[00:16:46]
<The_Stargazer> CC doesn't [Edited]
L74[00:16:56]
<BohemianHacks> oh, CC doesnt have features
that OC doesnt
L75[00:17:01]
<BohemianHacks> other than being
easier
L76[00:17:45]
<BohemianHacks> it used to have better
integration and more addons
L77[00:17:53]
<BohemianHacks> but they are all out of
date as far as i can tell
L78[00:17:56]
<BohemianHacks> so thats pretty even
L79[00:18:22]
<The_Stargazer> OC > CC in every
way
L80[00:18:38]
<The_Stargazer> OC actually has more
features.
L81[00:18:42]
<The_Stargazer> like, uh
L82[00:18:43]
<BohemianHacks> yes
L83[00:18:44]
<The_Stargazer> the data card
L84[00:18:48]
<The_Stargazer> CC doesn't have that
L85[00:19:01]
<The_Stargazer> we need a CC to OC program
converter
L86[00:19:12]
<BohemianHacks> anything that CC has that
OC doesnt, is negated by retaining state
L87[00:19:17]
<BohemianHacks> that alone makes it a
better mod imo
L88[00:19:25] <Izaya> retains state and
uses power
L89[00:19:29]
<BohemianHacks> ^
L90[00:19:31]
<The_Stargazer> rock, paper, scissors,
persistence
L91[00:19:31] <Izaya> those are why I first
looked into it tbh
L92[00:19:35]
<The_Stargazer> persistence beats
everything
L93[00:19:51]
<BohemianHacks> I first looked into it for
that, but was turned away by all the microcrafting
L94[00:20:05]
<BohemianHacks> but now that ive done a
million other modded plays
L95[00:20:11]
<BohemianHacks> the microcrafting is pretty
minimal tbh
L96[00:20:32]
<BohemianHacks> I sort of forgot it existed
and just used CC by default
L97[00:20:43]
<The_Stargazer> and then you
L98[00:20:46]
<The_Stargazer> rediscovered OC?
L99[00:20:51] *
Izaya laughs in OC 1.0
L100[00:20:57] <Izaya> hardmode recipes
were the default
L101[00:21:00] <Izaya> it was quite
painful
L102[00:21:05]
<BohemianHacks> ah, maybe thats why
L103[00:21:14] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
difference?
L104[00:21:16]
<The_Stargazer> i gtg, mdnvii has finished
downloading
L105[00:21:32] <Izaya> CompanionCube:
double the microcrafting, have to upgrade each component through
the tiers
L106[00:21:32]
<BohemianHacks> I tried to pronounce
that
L107[00:21:42]
<The_Stargazer> MDNVII?
L108[00:21:47]
<The_Stargazer> it's an acronym
L109[00:21:51]
<BohemianHacks> obviously
L110[00:21:57] <Izaya> it's like
L111[00:21:58]
<BohemianHacks> but that didnt stop my
brain from trying to read it
L112[00:22:06] <Izaya> almost valid roman
numerals
L113[00:22:16]
<BohemianHacks> ma-din-vee
L114[00:22:53]
<The_Stargazer> VII stands for Victory
II
L115[00:23:00]
<The_Stargazer> so it's
L116[00:23:03]
<The_Stargazer> vee-two
L117[00:23:07]
<BohemianHacks> anyways, im super sad it
took me so long to switch, but now that I have i need to do a
proper survival lets play before making my crazy ant farm
L118[00:23:56]
<BohemianHacks> also a good excuse to throw
in some extra mods I avoided putting in like immersive
engineering
L119[00:24:07]
<BohemianHacks> literally only use it for
the conveyor belts though ?
L120[00:24:08] <Izaya> don't forget Zetta
Industries
L121[00:24:22] <Izaya> for those sweet
IE-style OC network cables
L122[00:24:56] <CompanionCube> Izaya: ooh
i just found a promising app for android secure dns
L123[00:25:20]
<BohemianHacks> neat!
L124[00:26:20] <CompanionCube> intra looks
interesting
L125[00:26:28]
<BohemianHacks> intra?
L126[00:26:39]
<BohemianHacks> oh, not a mod
L128[00:27:43]
<BohemianHacks> to make me rely on
robots/machines for logistics and stuff more
L129[00:27:55] <Izaya> whoa, curse changed
layout again
L130[00:28:03]
<BohemianHacks> yeah, i hate it
L131[00:28:08]
<BohemianHacks> more twitch like
L132[00:28:27] <Izaya> how weird is it
that the primary purveyor for minecraft-related services is
amazon
L133[00:28:33] <Izaya> or rather, an
amazon subsidiary
L134[00:29:07]
<BohemianHacks> not that weird at all
L135[00:29:16]
<BohemianHacks> amazon is everything and
everywhere
L136[00:29:36] <Izaya> I try to avoid
them, but CurseForge is unavoidable nowadays :<
L137[00:29:42]
<BohemianHacks> someday 2 AWS servers will
go down and the whole internet will die
L138[00:30:11] <Izaya> for a distributed
system, the internet has way too many single points of
failure
L139[00:30:50]
<BohemianHacks> I miss the old
internet
L140[00:31:06]
<BohemianHacks> where people had actual
websites instead of "pages" on other websites
L141[00:31:16] <Izaya> be the change you
want to see in the world
L142[00:31:57]
<BohemianHacks> lol I have like 3 personal
servers, but most my stuff is still on "pages"
L143[00:32:20] <Izaya> I have one social
"page"
L144[00:32:29] <Izaya> but it's hosted on
my hardware
L145[00:32:35] <Izaya> so I'm not sure
that counts
L146[00:32:36]
<BohemianHacks> my blog is technically
hosted via github pages, but I can still put whatever I want on
there for the most part
L147[00:33:06] *
Izaya is @izaya@social.shadowkat.net on fedi if anyone
cares
L149[00:34:26]
<BohemianHacks> basically from may though,
ive been busy with work and minecraft. which i dont post about
much
L150[00:34:39] *
CompanionCube has a mostly-unused blog...but it's technically a set
of pages
L151[00:34:45] <Izaya> I have like 4 items
on my list to write up
L152[00:34:46] *
Izaya hmms
L153[00:34:49] <Izaya> Make that 6
L154[00:35:03] <CompanionCube> i haven't
blogged since 2017 though
L155[00:35:20]
<BohemianHacks> im really bad about
documenting projects, but im trying to get better
L156[00:35:41]
<BohemianHacks> if/when I get some cool
results from the ant farm I will probably post about that
L157[00:35:43] <Izaya> last one was
february q_q
L159[00:37:03] <CompanionCube> and iirc it
was originally supposed to be more
L160[00:37:07]
<BohemianHacks> anyone know what the angled
blocks and decorative stuff used in the opencomputers videos are
from?
L162[00:37:21] <Izaya> soon(TM)
L163[00:37:28] <CompanionCube> but hey,
it's got the tilde
L164[00:37:46] <CompanionCube> and i do
have sudo access on that server
L165[00:38:21] <CompanionCube> (as do the
other users :p)
L167[00:38:26] <Izaya> also got a bunch of
work to do with lain.church
L168[00:38:34]
<BohemianHacks> Ive had my free shell
account there for like 10 years
L169[00:38:44] <Izaya> wanna get around to
writing the script to turn gopher menus into HTML pages
L170[00:38:55]
<BohemianHacks> havnt talked to anyone
about it or recieved emails
L171[00:39:14]
<BohemianHacks> I just random ssh in and
use it when I need a terminal or whatever
L172[00:39:23] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
about that...
L173[00:39:24]
<BohemianHacks> pretty rare now that i have
my own, but it still exists
L174[00:39:32] <Izaya> CompanionCube: you
got one? :D
L175[00:40:04] <CompanionCube> Izaya: i
know someone who wrote one
L176[00:40:49]
<BohemianHacks> I really like jekyll
L177[00:41:16]
<BohemianHacks> anyways, ive gotten
distracted again
L178[00:41:18]
<BohemianHacks> MODS
L179[00:41:36]
<BohemianHacks> so I can actually play some
survival now that my derpling is asleep
L182[01:01:33]
<Zef> You
are multiple dragons
L183[01:02:26]
<Zef> I'm
going to be getting 4 powermac G5s in unknown condition
L184[01:03:15]
<Zef> They
were used for newspaper production
L185[01:03:46] <Izaya> tfw no G4 Power
Macintosh
L186[01:03:54] <Izaya> or even better, one
of the 603e based ones
L187[01:06:04]
<Zef> Hey,
they're free so I can't complain
L188[01:06:18] <Izaya> aye
L189[01:06:21] <Izaya> whatcha gonna do
with them
L190[01:14:47]
<Zef> I'm
gonna see if there's enough working stuff to get one
functional
L191[01:14:56]
<Zef> Or if
I'm lucky as many as possible
L192[01:15:04]
<Zef> And
sell off anything extra
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L195[01:48:25] <payonel> o/
L196[01:52:02] <Saphire> rar
L197[01:52:24] <payonel> hi Saphire
L198[02:08:36]
<Forecaster>
%sip random
L199[02:08:36] <MichiBot> You drink a
basic lime potion (New!). Forecaster gains knowledge about a random
useless subject.
L200[02:08:44]
<Forecaster>
woo
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<Forecaster>
!
L204[03:12:32]
<The_Stargazer> Izaya: does your password
code save it as a number or string?
L205[03:12:49]
<The_Stargazer> also, apparently the drone
isn't even sending the message back
L206[03:13:28]
<The_Stargazer> it doesn't react to correct
*or* incorrect
L207[03:13:35]
<The_Stargazer> but it flashes!
L208[03:13:44]
<The_Stargazer> is
coroutine.wrap(function)() blocking?
L209[03:13:47]
<The_Stargazer> i.e
L210[03:13:55]
<The_Stargazer> does it stop code after
that call from executing?
L211[03:14:06]
<The_Stargazer> because all it's
doing
L212[03:14:08]
<The_Stargazer> is flashing
L213[03:14:23]
<The_Stargazer> which is
L214[03:14:26]
<The_Stargazer> not very helpful
L215[03:15:18]
<The_Stargazer> yea, apparently it is
L216[03:15:25]
<The_Stargazer> if I take out
`coroutine.wrap(flash)()`
L217[03:15:30]
<The_Stargazer> it does work (but it
crashes)
L218[03:15:38]
<The_Stargazer> at least it doesn't just
flash
L219[03:15:40]
<The_Stargazer> it crash!
L220[03:15:46]
<The_Stargazer> it doesn't flash, it
crash
L221[03:15:59]
<The_Stargazer> was not intended to rhyme
but I saw the opportunity
L222[03:16:08]
<The_Stargazer> actually, better one
L223[03:16:13]
<The_Stargazer> "No flashes, just
crashes"
L224[03:19:17]
<The_Stargazer> >number expected got
string
L225[03:19:23]
<The_Stargazer> >is using tonumber
L226[03:19:30]
<The_Stargazer> what
L227[03:20:13]
<The_Stargazer> okay the password thing
isn't working
L228[03:20:19]
<The_Stargazer> i'm going to switch to
inflate/deflate
L229[03:20:32]
<The_Stargazer> atleast that should
work
L230[03:28:22]
<The_Stargazer> but I may as well implement
a simple handshake
L231[03:38:09] <Lizzy> sure is fun when
the core networking switch at one of your work sites goes
down
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<The_Stargazer> you know those moments
where you feel like you could slap yourself
L234[03:39:50]
<The_Stargazer> i just had one
L235[03:39:57]
<The_Stargazer> i forgot to pass a port to
modem.broadcast
L236[03:40:06]
<The_Stargazer> and was like "WHERE IS
IT WANTING A NUMBER"
L237[03:40:26]
<The_Stargazer> and then saw the red light
(indicating 'waiting for handshake') go on and thought 'okay it's
after that line'
L238[03:40:36]
<The_Stargazer> and then I saw that I
forgot to pass a port to modem.broadcast
L239[03:41:21]
<The_Stargazer> can inflated data be sent
over a modem?
L240[03:41:58]
<The_Stargazer> suppose there's no real
need to inflate the handshake
L241[03:43:16]
<Forecaster>
if something has the word "core" in it you probably don't
want it to go down
L242[03:44:34]
<The_Stargazer> ^
L243[03:46:22]
<The_Stargazer> i have somewhat secure
RCBios
L244[03:46:33]
<The_Stargazer> the only thing that gets
sent now is the text `RCBV1B`
L245[03:47:00]
<The_Stargazer> after that, all
computer-drone communications are `modem.send()`
L246[03:47:11]
<The_Stargazer> i have somewhat secured
RCBios [Edited]
L247[03:47:39]
<The_Stargazer> much more secure than
broadcasting everything
L248[03:48:11]
<Forecaster>
probably yeah
L249[03:48:39]
<The_Stargazer> six bytes aren't exactly
useful
L250[03:48:56]
<The_Stargazer> once a connection has been
established
L251[03:48:59]
<The_Stargazer> nothing is
broadcasted
L252[03:49:21]
<Forecaster>
is the handshake always the same?
L253[03:49:40] <Lizzy> @Forecaster yup,
bonus points is that the site that's having the issue also hosts
most of the general services people use
L254[03:50:03]
<The_Stargazer> yea
L255[03:50:05]
<The_Stargazer> but
L256[03:50:11]
<The_Stargazer> the client is started
before the drone
L257[03:50:23]
<The_Stargazer> so connection is
practically instant if you're near it
L258[03:50:31]
<The_Stargazer> is message travel time a
thing?
L259[03:50:35]
<The_Stargazer> i.e.
L260[03:50:40]
<Forecaster>
I don't think so
L261[03:50:45]
<The_Stargazer> okay
L262[03:50:52]
<The_Stargazer> so connection is basically
instantaneous
L263[03:51:14]
<Forecaster>
messages are only delayed when passing through relays, because
it'll take a tick to re-send it
L264[03:51:23]
<The_Stargazer> but yeah the handshake is
the same
L265[03:51:28]
<The_Stargazer> I tried Izaya's password
idea
L266[03:51:29]
<The_Stargazer> didn't work
L267[03:51:39]
<The_Stargazer> but a tick of time
L268[03:51:41]
<The_Stargazer> is fuckall
L269[03:52:01]
<The_Stargazer> humans cannot open a GUI
and type something in a tick
L270[03:52:08]
<The_Stargazer> unless they can slow time,
which they can't
L271[03:52:23]
<Forecaster>
I assume it stops listening to broadcasts after the connection is
made
L272[03:52:26]
<The_Stargazer> yeah
L273[03:52:29]
<The_Stargazer> no broadcasts made
L274[03:52:39]
<The_Stargazer> one event.pull() to receive
the broadcast
L275[03:53:54]
<McMaartenz>
bois in `component.invoke()` it requires a method but what are
methods xd
L276[03:54:47]
<Forecaster>
invoke is a method
L277[03:54:57]
<McMaartenz>
wat
L278[03:55:04]
<Forecaster>
in `modem.send` "send" is a method
L279[03:55:07]
<McMaartenz>
ahAh
L280[03:55:10]
<McMaartenz>
interesting
L281[03:55:12]
<Forecaster>
in `modem.send()` "send" is a method [Edited]
L282[03:55:26]
<Forecaster>
a method is a function embedded in an object, in general
terms
L283[03:55:27]
<McMaartenz>
"nO sUcH meThoD"
L284[03:55:30]
<McMaartenz>
wtf
L285[03:55:32]
<The_Stargazer> no such method
L286[03:55:39]
<The_Stargazer> means the function doesn't
exist
L287[03:55:41]
<The_Stargazer> iirc anyway
L288[03:55:44]
<Forecaster>
yes
L289[03:55:48]
<McMaartenz>
but wtf
L290[03:55:54]
<Forecaster>
what did you try to do
L291[03:55:54]
<The_Stargazer> what function are you
trying to use?
L292[03:55:59]
<McMaartenz>
uh
L293[03:56:13]
<McMaartenz>
its complicated
L294[03:56:15]
<The_Stargazer> did you `require` it's
lib
L295[03:56:24]
<The_Stargazer> or, load it's
component
L296[03:56:28]
<The_Stargazer> in the case of the
latter
L297[03:56:38]
<The_Stargazer> did you
`require("component")`?
L299[03:56:57]
<McMaartenz>
xd
L300[03:57:02]
<McMaartenz>
line 4
L301[03:57:09]
<Forecaster>
to use component invoke you do something like
L303[03:57:31]
<McMaartenz>
ah
L304[03:57:37]
<McMaartenz>
?
L305[03:57:48]
<The_Stargazer> carddock isn't an OC
component though..
L306[03:57:59]
<Forecaster>
it's from opensecurity
L307[03:57:59]
<McMaartenz>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L308[03:58:01]
<The_Stargazer> ah
L309[03:58:01]
<McMaartenz>
mhm
L310[03:58:50]
<McMaartenz>
well hold on a minute
L311[03:58:58]
<McMaartenz>
okay this is confusing
L312[03:59:13]
<McMaartenz>
Forecaster do you know how to use carddock (?)
L313[03:59:29]
<Forecaster>
the code I wrote above would be equivalent to something like
L315[03:59:37]
<McMaartenz>
ye
L316[04:00:07]
<The_Stargazer> which block is the
carddock?
L317[04:00:10]
<McMaartenz>
uhm
L318[04:00:13]
<McMaartenz>
opensecurity addon?
L319[04:00:15]
<Forecaster>
I was about to ask that
L320[04:00:23]
<Forecaster>
what's the actual block named?
L321[04:00:23]
<McMaartenz>
it's a block where you put a card inside it
L322[04:00:23]
<The_Stargazer> oh it's an opensecurity
addon
L323[04:00:26]
<The_Stargazer> an addon to an addon
L324[04:00:30]
<Forecaster>
is it the card reader?
L325[04:00:32]
<McMaartenz>
wait
L326[04:00:33]
<McMaartenz>
waht
L327[04:00:36]
<The_Stargazer> what's
L328[04:00:38]
<McMaartenz>
uhm
L329[04:00:39]
<The_Stargazer> the actual block
called?
L330[04:00:44]
<McMaartenz>
c'mon guys dont be so confusing
L331[04:00:48]
<McMaartenz>
it's just a block
L332[04:00:48]
<The_Stargazer> how is that confusing
L333[04:00:50]
<McMaartenz>
where you can put a card in
L334[04:00:52]
<McMaartenz>
a card
L335[04:00:56]
<McMaartenz>
an OC card etc
L336[04:00:58]
<Forecaster>
blocks have names...
L337[04:01:02]
<McMaartenz>
HoW?
L338[04:01:06]
<Forecaster>
tell us the name of the block
L339[04:01:12]
<The_Stargazer> yes but what's it
called
L340[04:01:14]
<Forecaster>
look at the block you placed in your inventory...
L341[04:01:22]
<McMaartenz>
`ocdevices:card_dock`
L342[04:01:25]
<The_Stargazer> no
L343[04:01:28]
<The_Stargazer> the name of the block
L344[04:01:30]
<McMaartenz>
wait no..
L345[04:01:31]
<McMaartenz>
that isnt
L346[04:01:32]
<The_Stargazer> the actual thing that you
hold
L347[04:01:33]
<McMaartenz>
or
L348[04:01:34]
<The_Stargazer> and place
L349[04:01:40]
<McMaartenz>
i a m confusing
L350[04:01:44]
<McMaartenz>
I am getting confused with two mods
L351[04:01:49]
<Forecaster>
geez
L352[04:01:57]
<McMaartenz>
the best part is that opensecurity is something I installed
too
L353[04:02:03]
<The_Stargazer> okay but
L354[04:02:03]
<McMaartenz>
?
L355[04:02:06]
<The_Stargazer> that's not what we
want
L356[04:02:12]
<The_Stargazer> i don't think this guy
should be using oc
L357[04:02:18]
<McMaartenz>
lmAo
L358[04:02:26]
<The_Stargazer> if you can't give a simple
block name to help out
L359[04:02:30]
<McMaartenz>
Whatever
L360[04:02:33]
<The_Stargazer> should you really be
programming Lua?
L361[04:02:37]
<McMaartenz>
@ben_mkiv hey boi I need some help with ya mod
L362[04:02:43]
<McMaartenz>
nevermind it im asking the dev
L363[04:02:44]
<The_Stargazer> (maybe that was a little
too harsh)
L364[04:02:47]
<McMaartenz>
It was
L365[04:02:49]
<The_Stargazer> oh, it's his mod?
L366[04:02:50]
<McMaartenz>
Too harsh
L367[04:02:56]
<Forecaster>
No
L368[04:03:17]
<Forecaster>
it was not too harsh, you should be able to know what "name of
the block" means, it's minecraft.
L369[04:03:20]
<ben_mkiv>
yo boi, whats up with it
L370[04:03:21]
<Forecaster>
and it's Mimirus mod
L371[04:03:24]
<McMaartenz>
yeh
L372[04:03:26]
<ben_mkiv>
yo boi, sup with it [Edited]
L373[04:03:27]
<McMaartenz>
So I have a carddock
L374[04:03:32]
<McMaartenz>
I put a card inside it
L375[04:03:32]
<The_Stargazer> OpenSecurity isn't
ben_mkiv's mod
L376[04:03:35]
<McMaartenz>
no
L377[04:03:37]
<McMaartenz>
not that one
L378[04:03:39]
<The_Stargazer> oh
L379[04:03:51]
<ben_mkiv>
still i've added lot of bugs to opensecurity
L380[04:03:51]
<McMaartenz>
Now that I have a card inside a carddock I want to bind the
component
L381[04:03:54]
<McMaartenz>
xd
L382[04:03:59]
<The_Stargazer> added bugs as in
L383[04:04:01]
<The_Stargazer> reported bugs
L384[04:04:03]
<ben_mkiv>
thats ocdevices
L385[04:04:04]
<The_Stargazer> or made bugs in the
code
L386[04:04:06]
<ben_mkiv>
not opensecurity
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<ben_mkiv>
so what mod are you talking about?
L389[04:04:11]
<McMaartenz>
I know how to bind the component but I have multiple
carddocks
L390[04:04:12]
<The_Stargazer> is that even your mod
L391[04:04:14]
<McMaartenz>
OpenDevices
L392[04:04:15]
<McMaartenz>
xd
L393[04:04:31]
<The_Stargazer> where tf you get that
L394[04:04:38]
<The_Stargazer> not from google
L396[04:04:48]
<McMaartenz>
ehrm
L397[04:04:51]
<ben_mkiv>
look at this reply, that also applies to carddocks and other
components
L398[04:04:58]
<McMaartenz>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L399[04:04:59]
<McMaartenz>
idk
L400[04:05:07]
<McMaartenz>
I'm talking about OCDevices' carddock
L401[04:05:14]
<The_Stargazer> we know
L402[04:05:14]
<McMaartenz>
I didn't know OCsecurity had one
L403[04:05:17]
<McMaartenz>
or
L404[04:05:24]
<McMaartenz>
**lmAo nvm**
L406[04:05:46]
<The_Stargazer> run that
L407[04:05:48]
<The_Stargazer> see if it works
L408[04:05:53]
<McMaartenz>
oh..?
L409[04:05:55]
<The_Stargazer> change docks to ducks if
you want
L410[04:06:00]
<McMaartenz>
That might work actually
L411[04:06:42]
<ben_mkiv>
That will fail
L412[04:06:49]
<The_Stargazer> it will?
L413[04:07:14]
<McMaartenz>
it looks
L414[04:07:15]
<McMaartenz>
kinda
L415[04:07:15]
<ben_mkiv>
Wrong tablename with table.insert
L416[04:07:16]
<McMaartenz>
confusing
L417[04:07:22]
<The_Stargazer> oh
L419[04:07:44]
<The_Stargazer> yes the ducks part is a
joke
L420[04:07:50]
<ben_mkiv>
That works quack
L421[04:07:56]
<The_Stargazer> programmer humor
L422[04:08:07]
<The_Stargazer> like 418 I'm a teapot
L423[04:08:08]
<Forecaster>
(the table should be local though cough)
L425[04:08:45] <Inari> Nep
L426[04:08:49]
<McMaartenz>
e h r m
L427[04:08:57]
<McMaartenz>
what does it actually do
L428[04:09:01]
<The_Stargazer> (is that what I think it
is)
L429[04:09:04]
<The_Stargazer> (is that a reference)
L430[04:09:11] <Inari> Nepnep?
L431[04:09:15]
<McMaartenz>
wait
L432[04:09:25]
<The_Stargazer> okay it's definitely a
reference
L433[04:09:50]
<The_Stargazer> nep isn't associated with
anything except neptunia
L434[04:09:50]
<The_Stargazer> (not that I know of)
L435[04:09:52]
<The_Stargazer> nep isn't associated with
anything except neptunia
L436[04:09:58] <Inari> nepophilia
L437[04:10:17]
<McMaartenz>
@ben_mkiv if I bind a carddock using functions does it get bound
forever until it's unbound using the unbind function?
L438[04:10:19]
<The_Stargazer> that's a real thing I just
googled it
L439[04:10:33]
<McMaartenz>
that would explain a lot actually
L440[04:11:20]
<The_Stargazer> Inari: when you say nep,
are you referring to Neptunia (from HDN) or nepophilia, I'm
confused.
L441[04:11:30]
<The_Stargazer> Inari: when you say nep,
are you referring to Neptune (from HDN) or nepophilia, I'm
confused. [Edited]
L442[04:11:52]
<The_Stargazer> I'm going with the
former.
L443[04:14:09]
<The_Stargazer> [no response, assuming
everyone is dead[
L444[04:14:12]
<The_Stargazer> [no response, assuming
everyone is dead] [Edited]
L445[04:14:54]
<McMaartenz>
I guess then
L446[04:16:17]
<Forecaster>
I'm alive, I've just given up on this conversation
L447[04:16:33]
<Forecaster>
%tonkout
L448[04:16:34] <MichiBot> I'm sorry
Forecaster, you were not able to beat Kodos's record of 5 hours, 30
minutes and 51 seconds this time. 5 hours, 20 minutes and 51
seconds were wasted! Missed by 10 minutes!
L449[04:16:38]
<Forecaster>
dangit
L450[04:17:01]
<McMaartenz>
ah hecc..
L451[04:17:09] <CompanionCube> screw
you
L452[04:17:15] <CompanionCube> :3
L453[04:21:17]
<ben_mkiv>
It should be bound forever. Otherwise it's a bug
L454[04:22:12] <Inari> @The_Stargazer
both? Nepophilia actually was a joke on "liking Nep"
didn't know it's a term xD
L455[04:22:27] <Inari> So Ig uess really
the HDN part
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<The_Stargazer> nepophilia is a term for
being attracted to children under 5
L460[04:38:50]
<The_Stargazer> speaking of HDN, I have
finished all four stories in the Hyperdimension part of
Megadimension Neptunia VII
L461[04:38:56]
<The_Stargazer> each one took me about two
days
L462[04:39:03]
<The_Stargazer> (because no internet at
home)
L463[04:39:40]
<BohemianHacks> apparently chose a weird
time to come back on discord
L464[04:41:54]
<The_Stargazer> how do you charge
drones?
L465[04:42:06]
<The_Stargazer> (because no internet at
home, and not a good enough computer) [Edited]
L466[05:02:08]
<The_Stargazer> i've had a thought
L467[05:02:27]
<The_Stargazer> why not make the drone's
light a different colour when RCBios is in use, to differentiate it
from other drones?
L468[05:02:31]
<The_Stargazer> I've gone with 0000FF
L469[05:22:27]
<The_Stargazer> question
L470[05:22:47]
<The_Stargazer> how many values can there
be resulting from `pcall(load(stuff))`
L471[05:23:00]
<The_Stargazer> at most 2?
L472[05:23:13]
<The_Stargazer> how many are normally
returned, 2 or 3 for a standard function call?
L473[05:23:21]
<The_Stargazer> might as well add support
for up to 6
L474[05:23:53]
<The_Stargazer> but in reality
L475[05:24:02]
<The_Stargazer> in the OpenOS
interpreter
L476[05:24:07]
<The_Stargazer> I've only EVER seen two
returned
L477[05:24:08]
<The_Stargazer> or one
L478[05:24:34] <Inari> Uh
L479[05:24:40] <Inari> Why have a limited
amount in the first place
L480[05:25:53]
<The_Stargazer> Because modem.send() takes
up to 8
L481[05:26:12] <Inari> So serialize them
or something
L482[05:26:13] <Inari> :D
L483[05:26:21]
<The_Stargazer> too big
L484[05:26:36]
<The_Stargazer> the lib is 3k for the
serialization function alone
L485[05:26:49]
<The_Stargazer> I suppose it gives me a
chance to put Crunch to the test
L486[05:27:30]
<The_Stargazer> and it's lz77
compression
L487[05:27:53] <Inari> I think pcall load
can return up to 3
L488[05:28:00] <Inari> hmm
L489[05:28:01] <Inari> Maybe not
L490[05:28:09] <Inari> Or well yeah
L491[05:28:22] <Inari> Though I think load
already does cehcking, so you don't need to pcall it
L492[05:28:33]
<The_Stargazer> Huh
L493[05:28:42] <Inari> "If there are
no syntactic errors, returns the compiled chunk as a function;
otherwise, returns nil plus the error message. "
L494[05:28:42]
<The_Stargazer> It was pcall'd in
skex-BIOS, which is where I got the code from
L495[05:29:13]
<The_Stargazer> Maybe pcall() calls the
returned function? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L496[05:29:19]
<The_Stargazer> can it do that?
L497[05:29:30] <Inari> Uh, no, unless you
tell it to
L498[05:30:53]
<The_Stargazer> holy crap
L499[05:31:05]
<The_Stargazer> crunch reduced initbig.lua
from 6.7KB to 2.8KB
L500[05:31:13]
<The_Stargazer> (with LZ77
compression)
L501[05:31:30]
<The_Stargazer> although when I run it it
yells at me
L502[05:31:43]
<The_Stargazer> so I'm unsure if lz77'll
work
L503[05:32:19]
<The_Stargazer> if I disable notree it
works
L504[05:32:27]
<The_Stargazer> if I enable notree it works
[Edited]
L505[05:32:38]
<The_Stargazer> and becomes 3.2k
L506[05:32:43]
<The_Stargazer> that's like half the
size
L507[05:35:01]
<The_Stargazer> it actually works too
L508[05:35:15]
<The_Stargazer> :/ live lua env STILL
doesn't work..
L509[05:37:20]
<Forecaster>
drones charge next to an active charger, same as robots
L510[05:38:41]
<Forecaster>
%sip random
L511[05:38:42] <MichiBot> You drink a
shimmering tan potion (New!). Once empty the potion bottle fills
with a differently colored potion.
L512[05:38:53]
<Forecaster>
%sip random
L513[05:38:53] <MichiBot> You drink a
goopy sky potion (New!). Forecaster grows slightly.
L514[05:39:01]
<Forecaster>
wup
L515[05:39:01] <fingercomp> Inari:
`load("error()")` happily returns a function, even though
it throws an error when called; `pcall` is there to catch such
non-syntactic errors
L516[05:39:29] <Inari> Yeah, but you don't
need it to call the load
L517[05:39:42] <Inari> Or what would load
error on?
L518[05:39:56]
<The_Stargazer> gah
L519[05:39:59]
<The_Stargazer> why isn't this
working
L520[05:40:07]
<The_Stargazer> it worked fine before
L521[05:40:38] <fingercomp> Inari: `load`
returns a function, which `pcall` gets and calls
L522[05:41:05] <Inari> Oh, right :p
L523[05:41:13]
<The_Stargazer> exiting it works fine
L524[05:41:52] <Inari> Well then the
answer is that it reutrns whatever the loaded retursn + 1
L525[05:45:53]
<The_Stargazer> WHY WON'T YOU WORK
L526[05:46:11]
<The_Stargazer> i am fed up with this
stupid lua interpreter
L527[05:46:43]
<The_Stargazer> it just gets stuck on
waiting for a modem message
L528[05:47:06] <Inari> Maybe because it's
waiting for a modem message
L529[05:47:07] <Inari> ;D
L530[05:47:17]
<The_Stargazer> Yeah but the drone should
send one
L531[05:47:23]
<The_Stargazer> Except it's not sending
one
L532[05:47:25] <Inari> Maybe it
doesn't
L533[05:47:29]
<The_Stargazer> Which is a big
problem
L534[05:47:32]
<The_Stargazer> No it's supposed to
L535[05:47:46]
<The_Stargazer> `s(out1, out2, out3)`
L536[05:47:50]
<The_Stargazer> s is my send function
L537[05:47:53] <Inari> Sure, but does
it?
L538[05:47:58]
<The_Stargazer> Clearly not
L539[05:48:10] <Inari> Then how's the
interpreter at fault
L540[05:48:22]
<The_Stargazer> Well because it's not
executing the command
L541[05:48:31]
<The_Stargazer> and it's not passing on the
message
L542[05:48:34] <Inari> Because it's
waiting fro the message?
L543[05:48:43]
<The_Stargazer> possible
L544[05:48:46] <Inari> xD
L545[05:49:07] <fingercomp> is the port
open on the receiving end?
L546[05:49:11]
<The_Stargazer> yea
L547[05:49:19]
<The_Stargazer> it receives regular
commands fine
L548[05:49:27]
<The_Stargazer> crashes fine too
L549[05:49:27] <Inari> I'd test it with
two PCs before doing it with a drone
L550[05:49:28] <Inari> Seems simpler
L551[05:49:43]
<The_Stargazer> the thing is
L552[05:49:46]
<The_Stargazer> it worked before
L553[05:49:48]
<The_Stargazer> and now it won't
L554[05:50:00]
<The_Stargazer> and I have NO IDEA
WHY
L555[05:50:18] <Inari> So, debug it
:D
L556[05:50:26]
<The_Stargazer> it's funny how OC
electronics can survive rain (and lightning) fine
L557[05:50:38]
<The_Stargazer> IRL, if your computer gets
struck by lightning, it dead
L558[05:50:44]
<The_Stargazer> in OC, it's fine
L559[05:51:06] <Inari> IRL trees fall and
computers don't natively run on Lua
L560[05:51:13]
<The_Stargazer> yea
L561[05:51:35]
<The_Stargazer> `resistWeather()`
L562[05:53:54]
<The_Stargazer> I think it's getting caught
on the if loop
L563[05:54:23]
<The_Stargazer> Because I can `exit` the
interpreter fine..
L564[05:56:41]
<The_Stargazer> Hmm
L565[05:56:47]
<The_Stargazer> I remove it and it still
does nothing
L566[05:56:49] <Inari> And if is not a
loop
L567[05:57:32]
<The_Stargazer> I remember that now
L568[06:00:12]
<The_Stargazer> changing pcal to pcall
might help
L569[06:00:29]
<The_Stargazer> if that's the issue i am
going to throw the computer out of the window
L570[06:00:39]
<The_Stargazer> (actually not, it's not
mine)
L571[06:01:50]
<The_Stargazer> I'm gonna remove `pcall()`
when calling the lua interpreter's function
L572[06:01:56]
<The_Stargazer> then it'll actually
crash
L573[06:01:58]
<The_Stargazer> and not hang
L574[06:02:05]
<The_Stargazer> and not hang rcb
[Edited]
L575[06:02:56]
<The_Stargazer> no, it doesn't even
crash
L576[06:02:58]
<The_Stargazer> rcb just hangs
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<The_Stargazer> okay, so it's an rcb
issue
L579[06:07:04]
<The_Stargazer> rcb isn't even sending
it
L580[06:07:12]
<The_Stargazer> it's not the interpreter's
fault after all
L581[06:07:39]
<The_Stargazer> OH I'M STUPID
L582[06:07:42]
<The_Stargazer> I FORGOT THE SEND
COMMAND
L583[06:07:45]
<The_Stargazer> ?
L584[06:07:53]
<The_Stargazer> I'M VERY STUPID
L585[06:07:54]
<The_Stargazer> GAH
L586[06:08:08]
<The_Stargazer> this is quite possibly one
of the stupidest things I've ever done
L587[06:08:32]
<The_Stargazer> Inari: fixed it
L588[06:08:45]
<The_Stargazer> it was a case of Programmer
being an idiot
L589[06:12:54] <Inari> Heh
L590[06:13:08]
<The_Stargazer> still can't get it to send
multiple values
L591[06:13:11]
<The_Stargazer> but at least it works
L592[06:14:32]
<The_Stargazer> it working is primary,
proper command output (and not just true/false) is secondary
L593[06:14:55]
<The_Stargazer> though I think the latter
is, again, an RCB thing
L594[06:16:00]
<The_Stargazer> also:
L595[06:16:10]
<The_Stargazer> implemented sender
verifying for receiving messages
L596[06:16:18]
<The_Stargazer> so it knows it's getting it
from the right place
L597[06:16:35]
<The_Stargazer> the only connection issue
now is multiple client-drone pairs within 400 blocks of
eachother
L598[06:16:47]
<The_Stargazer> and idk how to fix
that
L599[06:19:51]
<The_Stargazer> okay so the drone isn't
sending the extra values
L600[06:20:23]
<The_Stargazer> I think I know why --
`send` only takes one argument
L601[06:21:47]
<The_Stargazer> fix: add support for up to
eight values
L602[06:22:42]
<The_Stargazer> YES IT WORKS
L603[06:24:54]
<The_Stargazer> lua interpreter is complete
:D
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L605[06:29:43]
<The_Stargazer> are drones
invincible?
L606[06:29:46]
<The_Stargazer> they appear to be
L607[06:30:06]
<The_Stargazer> i've hit mine with
like
L608[06:30:09]
<The_Stargazer> twenty 40-damage hits
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L610[06:30:24]
<The_Stargazer> drone doesn't even
move
L611[06:31:21]
<The_Stargazer> are they only vunerable to
screnches?
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L614[06:42:09]
<Bob>
@Corded they are invincible, only screnches can dmg them
L615[06:42:16]
<Bob> wes
hould really have damaged drones
L616[06:42:19]
<Bob> and
not invincible
L617[06:42:20]
<Bob>
smh
L618[06:54:06]
<The_Stargazer> yeah
L619[06:54:17]
<The_Stargazer> an invincible drone could
get into a base
L620[06:54:21]
<The_Stargazer> and deploy explosives
L621[06:54:29]
<The_Stargazer> and not take a
scratch
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L623[07:13:09] <Inari> Hm
L624[07:13:14] <Inari> They are? I didn't
think they were
L625[07:25:14] <AmandaC> %8ball
computer?
L626[07:25:15] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Reply
hazy, try again
L627[07:25:23] <AmandaC> Right,
not-so-computer it is
L628[07:28:14]
<Forecaster>
they are yes
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L633[09:13:40] <AmandaC> Don't you pick up
a drone by punching it?
L634[09:14:01] <AmandaC> I just assumed it
had health from thst
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L640[10:58:02] <MichiBot>
Defusing The
Centurion | length:
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Berate | Published On 23/6/2018
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L642[11:16:26]
<Forecaster>
%tonkout
L643[11:16:27] <MichiBot> Bejabbers!
Forecaster! You beat Kodos's previous record of 5 hours, 30 minutes
and 51 seconds (By 1 hour, 29 minutes and 1 second)! I hope you're
happy!
L644[11:16:28] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.006 tonk
points! plus 0.005 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 0.628
L645[11:16:33]
<Forecaster>
Woo
L646[11:33:19] <Mimiru> huh, lots of
confusion this morning it seems.. I was wondering why HexChat was
being so flashy
L647[11:33:22] <Mimiru> :P
L648[11:35:03]
<Forecaster>
I'm not confused you're confused! wait...
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L650[12:04:28] <Zink_PvP> Всем ку
L652[12:05:46] <MichiBot>
Title:
Wireless Network Card manual entry does not exist
| Posted
by: RPMYT
| Posted: Fri Jul 05 06:28:07 CDT 2019
|
Status: open
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L654[12:07:57]
<Forecaster>
well the title indicates that the manual doesn't have an entry for
the wireless network card
L655[12:08:15]
<Forecaster>
beyond that I have no idea
L656[12:11:15]
<Bob>
^
L657[12:14:18] <payonel> OH the
manual
L658[12:14:27] <payonel> i though...
L659[12:14:36] <payonel> he was trying to
use the wireless card manually
L660[12:14:44] <payonel> like...enter data
manually into the wireless card
L661[12:14:53]
<Forecaster>
"I tried bashing a rock with it and nothing happened, what
gives"
L662[12:15:01] <payonel> basically
yeah
L663[12:24:01] <Inari> I hate when I can't
really do anything in Minecraft :P
L664[12:24:58] <Inari> Need to find a
nether fortress to make potions. But need eyes to finda nether
fortress, but barely and endermen spawn on this island. Could go
for enchanting but htat needs books, but no cows here. Could get
cows, but that needs leads, no slime here and finding it is a pain
apaprently. Could go for potion making but that again needs a
netherfortress
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L669[13:19:14] <payonel> Inari: sp or mp?
if mp, i could help
L670[13:30:50] <Inari> sp :p
L671[13:32:38]
<McMaartenz>
%tonk
L672[13:32:38] <MichiBot> Sard!
McMaartenz! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 2
hours, 16 minutes and 11 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L673[13:32:39] <MichiBot> McMaartenz's new
record is 2 hours, 16 minutes and 11 seconds! McMaartenz also
gained 0.00227 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L674[13:32:46]
<McMaartenz>
he
L675[13:32:50]
<McMaartenz>
:GWjianGodLUL:
L676[13:37:53]
<Bob> ahaha
welcome
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L681[15:32:15]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> @ben_mkiv sorry for the ping, but could a tablet be used as
the server.
L682[15:32:45]
<Forecaster>
everything in OC is a computer
L683[15:32:52]
<Forecaster>
the only thing that differs is hardware
L684[15:33:02]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> A tablet is not as powerful
L685[15:33:08]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> That's why I ask
L686[15:35:54] <ben_mkiv> ?!?
L687[15:46:59]
<Bob> uhh
all that matters is the tier of the stuff you can put in
L688[15:47:05]
<Bob> and i
dont think pinging ben was that usefull
L689[15:47:17]
<Bob> even a
microcontroller can be a network server
L691[15:48:59] <MichiBot>
The world's
worst video card? | length:
32m 47s | Likes:
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Ben Eater |
Published On 5/7/2019
L693[15:49:32] <MichiBot>
Starbase -
The Next Big Space Game? Everything We Know So Far! | length:
12m 17s | Likes:
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ObsidianAnt | Published On 5/7/2019
L694[15:49:32]
<Forecaster>
neat
L695[15:51:25] <Inari> Looks cool, release
2030?
L696[15:54:14] <Inari> Drag in space,
lame
L697[15:56:22]
<Forecaster>
why?
L698[15:56:38] <Inari> CAn't fling
something some direction and expect it to hit
L699[15:56:50]
<Forecaster>
stick and engine on it
L700[15:56:55]
<Forecaster>
stick an engine on it [Edited]
L701[15:57:00] <Inari> Costs more and
such
L702[15:57:03] <Inari> Now you need
fuel
L703[15:57:07] <Inari> And bigger
structure
L704[15:57:08] <Inari> Etc
L705[15:57:42]
<Forecaster>
so don't
L706[15:57:52] <Inari> Though I'm agains
simplification like that on a basic level. Usually just means you
have fewer creative options
L707[15:58:02]
<Forecaster>
eh
L708[15:59:42] <Inari> Seems you at least
need to put powerlines
L709[15:59:45] <Inari> Unlike Space
Engineers
L710[16:00:33]
<Forecaster>
I'd rather the devs spend time on things that actually matter
rather than bugs that appear due to people flinging rocks at each
other
L711[16:00:59] <Inari> I think attack
strategies in a PvP game do matter
L712[16:02:08]
<Forecaster>
use a different one
L713[16:02:34] <Inari> cuts out a lot of
options though as said. aMong other possible creative uses. Also
means you can't orbit somehting come to think of it
L714[16:03:07]
<Forecaster>
flinging rocks doesn't have a lot of options to begin with
L715[16:03:29] <Inari> Doesn't necessarily
have to be rocks only
L716[16:03:47] <Inari> Could be missiles
that stop their engine after a acceleration burst to be harder to
detect
L717[16:04:30] <Inari> Could be a sneaky
ship, similar ot E:D's silent running
L718[16:04:45] <Inari> But without any
actual engine on once it has accelearted
L719[16:05:24] <Inari> Plus means to stop
you have to use counter-thrust. Now you have programs that do that
for you. But also daamageable thrusters that might throw things
off
L720[16:10:43] <Inari> So you install
redundant thrusters, and software that can balance it if one side
loses more thant he other!
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L724[17:24:00]
<Lizzian>
hmmmm
L726[17:24:20]
<Lizzian> i
don't think you're supposed to be doing dns queries, tiny
switch
L727[17:25:07]
<Lizzian>
hmm
L728[17:25:36]
<Lizzian>
okay i wonder now if it's just echo'ing requests of other
things...
L729[17:26:21]
<Lizzian>
why it's doing that in the first place though i have no idea
L730[17:29:30]
<Lizzian> i
actually have a feeling that it's not a switch but some other
device that just happens to have gotten it's name
L731[17:35:42]
<Lizzian> no
wait, i think that's the spare router we use as a secondary
ap
L732[17:35:51]
<Lizzian>
can't seem to get into any of it's interfaces though
L733[17:37:03]
<Forecaster>
that's always fun
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L737[18:26:46]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> Meanwhile, my drones all broke
L738[18:28:34]
<Bob> they
are invincible
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L740[18:31:53]
<Ariri> The
graphics make me jelly, playin on the Xbox looks so bad in
comparison
L741[18:33:11] <Izaya> every day is sunny
in spaaaace
L742[18:36:12]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> I broke OpenComputers
L743[18:36:19]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> I don't know how
L744[18:36:22]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> but I did
L745[18:39:02]
<Bob>
Nah
L746[18:39:19]
<Bob> Unless
you used SSDs you cant
L747[18:40:11]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> wait
L748[18:40:18]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> no I broke console
L750[18:40:29]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> it is looping this
L751[18:40:49]
<Lizzian>
seems like a sponge issue
L752[18:40:59] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L753[18:41:00] <MichiBot> Jeepers!
CompanionCube! You beat McMaartenz's previous record of 2 hours, 16
minutes and 11 seconds (By 2 hours, 52 minutes and 9 seconds)! I
hope you're happy!
L754[18:41:01] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 5 hours, 8 minutes and 21 seconds! CompanionCube also
gained 0.00861 (0.00287 x 3) tonk points for stealing the
tonk.
L755[18:41:34]
<Bob>
SpongeForge as usual
L756[18:41:41]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> The funny thing is
L757[18:41:47]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> the server is running fime
L758[18:41:49]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> the server is running fine [Edited]
L759[18:42:06]
<Bob> Is OC
tough ?
L760[18:42:28]
<Bob> The
server wont die because of a warning, only fatal errors
L761[18:42:44]
<Bob> Youre
getting exeptions
L763[18:42:45] <MichiBot>
Title:
OpenComputers robot console spam
| Posted by: IteratorW
|
Posted: Fri Jun 28 17:19:59 CDT 2019
| Status:
open
L764[18:43:10]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> all I see is ```
L765[18:43:10]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI>
ehf4iu3hdsyugauyfagystweuhsdnixhuyshdfdgeytsdcvubhjskadguysacgxeydsgdywegsdaiuwhdfiuhwudcbewuifbweuhwuhfxuncfyhnd8fucgnweygxfysdgsnxfiousdhgoui```
L766[18:43:17]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> thats what console looks like
L767[18:43:33]
<Bob> I have
no idea what causes the issue
L768[18:43:42]
<Bob> As im
not a dev nor a java speaker
L769[18:43:46]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> I think console had some 420-J
L772[19:04:07] <ben_mkiv> guess the
mob
L773[19:11:52]
<Ariri>
bolar bear
L774[19:13:01] <ben_mkiv> good
L775[19:13:05] <ben_mkiv> thats
correct
L776[19:13:27]
<Lizzian>
chernobyl
L777[19:14:53]
<Ariri> Bad
irradiated salamander
L778[19:14:59]
<Ariri>
forbidden fish
L779[19:32:40]
<Zef> The
first of several G5s
L781[19:34:09] <ben_mkiv> nice trash
bin
L782[19:34:17] <ben_mkiv> solid 6/7
L783[19:35:50]
<Zef> Well
it's actually 1 out of however many I'm getting
L784[19:35:57]
<Zef>
Probably close to 5 or 6
L785[20:04:27]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> I have never seen an air vent on the ground
L786[20:04:39]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> Also
L787[20:05:15]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> anyone know if there is a program that monitors a players
health and stats using an item
L788[20:05:23]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> it's for the Medical Bay
L789[20:08:54] <Izaya> Which mod was it
that added an 8KB EEPROM?
L790[20:09:40] <Izaya> I thought it was
OpenSecurity, but apparently not.
L791[20:23:30] <ben_mkiv> it is
opensecurity
L792[20:23:47] <ben_mkiv> but iirc its
disabled by default in the config
L793[20:24:32] <ben_mkiv> and you got to
use the OS cardwriter
L794[20:26:02] <ben_mkiv> either edit the
config or select opensecurity from the mod options menu
ingame
L795[20:26:06] <ben_mkiv> and set
biggerEEPROM to true
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L797[20:43:13] <AmandaC> %tell Inari OFC
they turn out to be hostile
L798[20:43:14] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L799[20:43:40] <AmandaC> %8ball computer
to download new chapters?
L800[20:43:40] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Without
a doubt
L801[20:49:25]
<Ariri>
MichiBot knows whats up
L802[20:49:30]
<Ariri>
%highfive MichiBot
L803[20:49:39]
<Ariri>
darn
L804[20:49:58]
<Ariri> %pat
MichiBot
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L807[20:59:08]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> I need developers for my server
L808[20:59:14]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> who wants to be a dev
L809[20:59:39]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> We have a reactor and a nice developer lounge
L810[21:01:04] <Izaya> Hit me up if you
want someone to help with setting up networking
L811[21:01:09] <Izaya> Got a channel on
esper?
L812[21:01:22]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> no
L813[21:01:27]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> I only use Discord
L814[21:01:51] <Izaya> Ah :|
L815[21:02:21] <Izaya> Well, ping me if
you want someone to do network stuff
L816[21:03:23]
<DEMONITIZED
BOI> wait
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L818[21:04:05] <DEMONITIZED_BOI> there we
go
L819[21:19:14]
<The_Stargazer> is there a way to download
ocdoc in text format?
L820[21:19:48]
<The_Stargazer> Firefox and Minecraft
cannot be open at the same time, which disables my access to
ocdoc
L821[21:21:05] <Izaya> If you log in and
try to edit the code you should get the source text
L822[21:21:15] <Izaya> also, consider a
lightweight text only browser like links2
L823[21:21:37] <Izaya> Generally, if it
doesn't do javascript, it won't be a memory hog
L824[21:21:56]
<The_Stargazer> does it work on
Windows?
L825[21:22:03] <Izaya> never tried
L826[21:22:07] <Izaya> presumably it
does
L827[21:22:18] <Izaya> windows has like 8
different bad POSIX compatibility layers
L829[21:22:39] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L830[21:23:36] <AmandaC> payonel: ^
L831[21:23:43] <AmandaC> Anyways, night
nerds
L832[21:31:07]
<The_Stargazer> can you send inflated text
over a network?
L833[21:51:16] <Lizzy> what do you mean by
"inflated text"?
L834[21:53:49]
<The_Stargazer> data.inflate()
L835[21:58:11]
<The_Stargazer> text inflated with
that
L836[22:00:41] <Izaya> does deflating it
result with the original?
L837[22:02:38]
<The_Stargazer> should do
L838[22:03:53]
<The_Stargazer> how do I use table.insert()
to add a key-value pair?
L839[22:04:04] <Izaya> Have you tested
it?
L840[22:04:19] <Izaya> Just in case.
L841[22:04:35]
<The_Stargazer> Uhh
L842[22:04:38]
<The_Stargazer> I can't atm
L843[22:04:48]
<The_Stargazer> Minecraft takes an age to
start
L844[22:04:54]
<The_Stargazer> (and OCEmu doesn't support
the data card)
L845[22:14:40]
<Zef> Will a
powermac G5 boot without the CMOS/PRAM battery?
L846[22:14:52]
<Zef> I'm
trying to troubleshoot this one
L847[22:14:55] <Izaya> unsure, try to boot
it to OFW
L848[22:15:06] <Izaya> PRAM is pretty
important to them
L849[22:15:10] <Izaya> the boot command is
stored in it
L851[22:16:25]
<The_Stargazer> will this work? `users` is
a table containing an address-username pair (eg.
users[someModemAddress] = PrismaticYT)
L852[22:16:33]
<Zef> Well
the thing is it's not posting with the battery installed
L853[22:16:41]
<Zef> I took
it out and the behavior is identical
L854[22:17:20] <Izaya> not like that,
because PrismaticYT is not a string
L855[22:17:24]
<Zef>
However now that I'm putting more research in it might also be
ram
L856[22:17:43]
<The_Stargazer> okay
L857[22:17:54]
<The_Stargazer> if PrismaticYT is a
string
L858[22:17:56] <Izaya> looks fine
though
L859[22:18:08]
<The_Stargazer> the code or the mac?
L860[22:18:53] <Izaya> code
L861[22:19:02]
<The_Stargazer> alright
L862[22:19:09]
<The_Stargazer> thanks
L863[22:19:33]
<The_Stargazer> does io.read() always
return a string?
L864[22:24:08] <Izaya> it returns nil on
EOF
L865[22:25:36]
<The_Stargazer> ^D?
L866[22:25:41]
<The_Stargazer> or is EOF ^C?
L867[22:25:44] <Izaya> ^D
L868[22:25:47]
<The_Stargazer> ah
L869[22:25:55] <Izaya> or you know
L870[22:26:01] <Izaya> the end of the file
you have as stdin
L871[22:26:56]
<The_Stargazer> ah
L872[22:27:16]
<The_Stargazer> how do I exclude a value
from `for x in y`
L873[22:27:24]
<The_Stargazer> how do I exclude a value
from `for x in pairs(y)` [Edited]
L874[22:27:37] <Izaya> an if statement
inside the loop
L875[22:27:44]
<The_Stargazer> thanks
L876[22:33:44]
<The_Stargazer> do microcontrollers have
access to the component library, and can you put a tier 2 wireless
card and a tier 1 data card in them?
L877[22:34:22] <Izaya> all computer
instances have the component lib
L878[22:34:30] <Izaya> and unsure, don't
remember the slots
L879[22:35:15]
<The_Stargazer> according to ocdoc,
yes
L880[22:35:32]
<The_Stargazer> tier 2 microcontroller case
can take 1x t2 card and 1x t1 card
L881[22:36:05] <Izaya> why are you
obscuring the communication if you're just send()ing it
anyway?
L882[22:37:01]
<The_Stargazer> to make it smalle
L883[22:37:07]
<The_Stargazer> to make it smaller
[Edited]
L884[22:39:44]
<Zef> Well
apparently you need pairs of identical ram to use the G5
L885[22:39:51]
<Zef> Which
I have plenty of that'll fit it
L886[22:39:55]
<Zef> Just
they're ECC
L887[22:40:04]
<The_Stargazer> Will it work with
ECC?
L888[22:40:46]
<Zef> I've
read that it doesn't, and when I put it in and try the system gives
a no ram error
L889[22:41:16]
<The_Stargazer> I'm guessing the G5
predates ECC?
L890[22:41:21] <Izaya> typical Apple
L891[22:41:30]
<The_Stargazer> ^
L892[22:41:33] <Izaya> here's a
professional machine that can't handle stuff required for
professional workloads
L893[22:41:41] <Izaya> do any of their
modern machines support ECC, even?
L894[22:41:57]
<The_Stargazer> they can do that only
because they have a monopoly on their machines
L895[22:42:16]
<The_Stargazer> because only they make
them
L896[22:43:01]
<The_Stargazer> Apple's attitude is pretty
much "Use it our way or not at all"
L897[22:43:25] <Izaya> And people buy it,
and they know that's how Apple works
L898[22:43:56]
<The_Stargazer> Apple users are crazy
people
L899[22:44:10] <Izaya> Apple has top-tier
marketing.
L900[22:44:10]
<The_Stargazer> No sane person waits in
line in front of a store for hours
L901[22:44:18]
<The_Stargazer> only to possibly get a
product
L902[22:44:24]
<The_Stargazer> without a 100% chance of
success
L903[22:44:52] <CompanionCube> Izaya: hey,
that's expected considering the 'reality distortion field'
L904[22:45:13] <Izaya> Does the RDF still
exist given the lack of Jobs?
L905[22:45:15]
<The_Stargazer> apple products are also
overpriced
L906[22:45:37] <CompanionCube> which
remains up to spec, and certain apple tendencies can even be
infectious to other OS species
L907[22:45:55] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
well, the marketing helps it stay up to spec
L908[22:46:04]
<The_Stargazer> Izaya: the new iMac Pro
supports ECC
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L910[22:46:11]
<The_Stargazer> it has ECC RAM
L911[22:46:25]
<The_Stargazer> I looked it up just to see
how much it'd cost to build the same computer with the same
specs
L912[22:46:40] <CompanionCube> the one
with the $1k stand?
L914[22:46:55]
<The_Stargazer> this one
L915[22:47:18] <Izaya> Dell make some
significantly more compelling AIO machines than the iMac Pro
L916[22:47:27] <Izaya> they come with
Windows 10 but it's easy enough to fix that
L917[22:48:17] <Izaya> 24" 4K
display, Threadripper and Vega 64, 32GB of ECC(?) RAM
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L919[22:49:01]
<The_Stargazer> and how much?
L920[22:49:14] <Izaya> I think that was a
couple grand
L921[22:49:24] <Izaya> not cheap, but much
cheaper than Apple's offerings
L922[22:50:00]
<The_Stargazer> wow
L923[22:50:05]
<The_Stargazer> a max out imac pro
L924[22:50:08]
<The_Stargazer> a maxed out imac pro
[Edited]
L925[22:50:15]
<The_Stargazer> with the most expensive
options
L926[22:50:21]
<The_Stargazer> is ~$28k
L927[22:50:26] <Izaya> fuckin hell
L928[22:50:35]
<The_Stargazer> 4TB of SSD storage
L929[22:50:38]
<The_Stargazer> for an extra 4k
L930[22:50:40]
<The_Stargazer> FOUR GRAND
L931[22:50:42] <Izaya> that dell one I saw
would've been like 15k tops
L932[22:50:44]
<The_Stargazer> for FOUR TERABYTES
L933[22:50:54]
<The_Stargazer> that is as overpriced as it
gets
L934[22:51:12]
<The_Stargazer> keep in mind all of this is
in NZD
L935[22:51:21] <Izaya> so like, halve it
and you get USD
L936[22:51:25] <Izaya> :^)
L937[22:51:30]
<The_Stargazer> the 4TB SSD upgrade?
$4080
L938[22:51:38]
<The_Stargazer> $4080 for an extra
3TB
L939[22:52:21] <Izaya> hm, this site only
has SATA 4TB drives
L940[22:52:49] <Izaya> but a 2TB NVMe SSD
is 550AUD
L941[22:52:52]
<Zef> Well
I'm basically fucked until I get the other ones, no way I'm buying
ram that I don't need to
L942[22:53:08] <Izaya> Zef: tried with one
stick at a time?
L944[22:55:14]
<The_Stargazer> wonder how much power Apple
users (and employees) would generate on a carpeted capacitor
L945[22:55:18]
<Zef> It
will not work with single sticks
L946[22:55:22]
<Zef> It
*needs* pairs
L947[22:55:29] <Izaya> welp x_x
L948[22:55:33]
<Zef> It
came with a single stick of ram that I'm guessing was factory
L949[22:55:37] <Izaya> Have you confirmed
that?
L950[22:55:47] <Izaya> The 'won't work
without pairs'
L951[22:55:52] <Izaya> most DDR chipsets
work with one stick
L952[22:55:58]
<Zef> I've
seen a couple places say it
L953[22:56:02]
<The_Stargazer> but
L954[22:56:04] <Izaya> being Apple,
wouldn't surprise me if it didn't, but still
L955[22:56:05]
<The_Stargazer> have you tried it?
L956[22:56:05] <Izaya> worth a shot
L957[22:56:38]
<The_Stargazer> who in their right mind
would pay 4k for an extra 3TB
L958[22:56:40]
<Zef> Well
it doesn't support ECC ram
L959[22:56:50]
<The_Stargazer> well use the factory stick
then
L960[22:56:53]
<Zef> And
the only other stick I have is the one I've been trying
L961[22:57:07]
<Zef> The
factory one I've been trying to boot it with
L962[22:57:16]
<The_Stargazer> and it says no?
L963[22:57:28]
<Zef> I'll
double check the error
L964[22:57:48]
<Kodos>
%tonk
L965[22:57:48] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Kodos,
you were not able to beat CompanionCube's record of 5 hours, 8
minutes and 21 seconds this time. 4 hours, 16 minutes and 48
seconds were wasted! Missed by 51 minutes and 33 seconds!
L966[22:57:52]
<Zef> Yes,
it says no ram
L967[22:57:53]
<Kodos>
>.>
L968[22:58:01]
<The_Stargazer> the tables have
turned
L969[23:00:34]
<The_Stargazer> microcontrollers and drones
are really fun
L970[23:00:42] <Izaya> They are! :D
L971[23:00:44]
<The_Stargazer> programming within the 4kb
limit is fun
L972[23:00:54]
<The_Stargazer> but then that limit kind of
gets blown away with crunch's lz77
L973[23:03:52]
<The_Stargazer> the ultimate in
minification
L974[23:04:06] <Izaya> mildly OP :D
L975[23:04:10]
<The_Stargazer> yeah
L976[23:17:53]
<The_Stargazer> don't you just love it when
the desktop crashes
L977[23:18:27] <CompanionCube> ...you know
i can't remember awesomewn ever crashing
L978[23:18:42] <Izaya> never had xfwm4
crash on me
L979[23:18:57]
<The_Stargazer> have you ever ran out of
RAM
L980[23:18:58] <CompanionCube> only
bitching about errors in red notifications when i b0rked the
config
L981[23:19:09]
<The_Stargazer> have you ever run out of
RAM [Edited]
L982[23:19:23] <CompanionCube> not any
time recently
L983[23:19:34]
<The_Stargazer> how much RAM does your
computer have?
L984[23:19:40]
<The_Stargazer> how much RAM does your
computer have? [Edited]
L985[23:19:43] <CompanionCube> because 16G
RAM. And 16G swap because hibeenation.
L986[23:19:50]
<The_Stargazer> I have 4GB
L987[23:19:52] <CompanionCube>
*because
L988[23:20:07] <CompanionCube> modern
windows on 4G sounds like suffering.
L989[23:20:13]
<The_Stargazer> it does
L990[23:20:22]
<The_Stargazer> with 32GB of storage
space
L991[23:20:28]
<The_Stargazer> and Windows 10 1703
L992[23:20:47] *
CompanionCube remembers running Gentoo Linux with 2G
RAM
L993[23:20:52]
<The_Stargazer> normally, windows runs
fine
L994[23:20:56]
<The_Stargazer> but when I start
Minecraft
L995[23:21:12] <CompanionCube> i think
LLVM was the worst, taking 2-3h to build.
L996[23:21:22]
<The_Stargazer> it doesn't like it oh
no
L997[23:21:43] <CompanionCube> also,
>modern windows + minecraft java + 4G RAM = bad idea
L998[23:21:51]
<The_Stargazer> it is
L999[23:21:55]
<The_Stargazer> but I have to deal with
it
L1000[23:22:07] <CompanionCube> are you
also running chrome at the same time for extra badness
L1001[23:22:13]
<The_Stargazer> no
L1002[23:22:29]
<The_Stargazer> i don't even use
chrome
L1003[23:22:37] *
CompanionCube wonders why LZ77 and not one of the
dervivatives
L1004[23:22:43] <CompanionCube>
good.
L1005[23:22:52]
<The_Stargazer> chrome is big memory
hog
L1006[23:23:03]
<The_Stargazer> firefox not so much I
think
L1007[23:23:13] *
Izaya gives The_Stargazer an 8GB flash drive with debian on
it
L1008[23:23:22] <Izaya> That will be much
more usable.
L1009[23:23:34] <Izaya> 32GB will not be
enough storage for Windows 10 as of the latest update.
L1010[23:24:15]
<The_Stargazer> I plan to buy two 64GB
drives
L1011[23:24:22] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
hopefully not debian stable
L1012[23:24:31] <Izaya> debian
newstable
L1013[23:24:33] <Izaya> (10)
L1014[23:26:22] <CompanionCube> but hey,
two 64G drives divide nicely into / and /home
L1015[23:27:02]
<The_Stargazer> uh
L1016[23:27:08]
<The_Stargazer> what does incorrect header
check mean
L1017[23:27:17]
<The_Stargazer> data.inflate() returns
it
L1018[23:27:32] <Izaya> most likely that
the data wasn't previously inflated
L1019[23:27:32]
<Mimiru>
It means the header check, was incorrect.
L1020[23:27:47] <Izaya> uh, deflated
rather
L1021[23:27:52]
<The_Stargazer> Oh It's deflate then
inflate
L1022[23:27:57]
<The_Stargazer> thought it was
inflate/deflate
L1023[23:28:00]
<The_Stargazer> not deflate/inflase
L1024[23:28:03]
<The_Stargazer> not deflate/inflate
[Edited]
L1025[23:28:05] <Izaya> >make data
bigger, as compression
L1026[23:28:06] <Izaya> nice
L1027[23:28:14]
<The_Stargazer> yeah I realize that
now
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<DEMONITIZED BOI> my drone army decided to
break