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L1[00:02:38] <CompanionCube> Izaya: https://medium.com/swlh/how-to-design-for-the-web-in-2019-a0be4d6702e2 them choosing medium to post it on is a bit weird
L2[00:11:31] <Izaya> I love the old Medium ads
L3[00:11:42] <Izaya> 'no ads, no paywalls, no bullshit'
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L5[00:39:54] <Dudblockman> ...
L6[00:40:09] <Dudblockman> Using a transposer, I managed to make a donkey wear horse armor
L7[00:40:23] <Dudblockman> It does not offer protection, nor does it render
L8[00:40:39] <Dudblockman> But I managed to place the armor in the slot that is removed from the GUI
L9[00:41:52] <Dudblockman> This only happened because I was thinking about ways to increase the storage capacity of a drone for long range item logistics and thought "Wait, donkeys are entities with inventories that can be leashed"
L10[00:42:14] <Dudblockman> And was thinking about doing long range item transport via a whole load of leashed donkeys
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L12[01:25:04] <Izaya> The RSPCA would like a chat with you.
L13[01:28:01] <Dudblockman> And apparently you can also armor zombie/skeleton horses and they actually get the benefit
L14[02:44:41] <Lizzy> @Forecaster Ah, yeah i did wonder that. and wooo
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L18[04:12:16] <Forecaster> also, moar mining lasers!
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L20[04:26:16] <lopezt> Hey guys, anybody know is there a way to get the amount of energy left in a robot?
L21[04:26:29] <Forecaster> yes
L22[04:26:36] <Izaya> ~w computer
L23[04:26:36] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:computer
L24[04:26:38] <Forecaster> the computer component has that
L25[04:26:44] <Bob> ^
L26[04:27:16] <lopezt> oh nice great thanks, corded you are always there and have an answer :D
L27[04:27:32] <Forecaster> also Lizzy, re-watching the footage, the smashing sound was the limpets pushing the fragments into the shield
L28[04:27:44] <Forecaster> corded is a relay
L29[04:28:35] <Izaya> based corded
L30[04:33:54] <Forecaster> I'm not based you're based D:<
L31[04:34:00] <Forecaster> I mean what
L32[04:34:05] <Izaya> you know it
L33[04:35:37] * Lizzy pastes wallpaper onto Forecaster & Izaya
L34[04:35:48] <Lizzy> @Forecaster ah
L35[04:35:56] * Izaya becomes a moving blob of floral patterns
L36[04:36:02] <Izaya> side note goddamn I hate floral wall paper
L37[04:36:11] <Forecaster> through the shield I should say
L38[04:36:20] <Izaya> would a plain light blue be too hard ree
L39[04:36:38] <Forecaster> also, I forgot to install an abration blaster, so now I have to go back and get one xD
L40[04:37:08] <Forecaster> my current base station only has the non-turret ones
L41[04:38:18] <Forecaster> at least I don't have to go back in the type-9, I can take my ASP which has enough fuel capacity to make the 30 something jumps without stopping to refeul
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L44[04:40:03] <Forecaster> also, apparently the Elite team is looking for a vehicle AI programmer
L45[04:40:14] <Forecaster> I wonder what that means for the future of Elite
L46[04:40:28] <Forecaster> NPC ground vehicles?!
L47[04:40:36] <Inari> Would be neat
L48[04:40:37] <Izaya> More SRVs?
L49[04:40:46] <Forecaster> hopefully both
L50[04:40:50] <Izaya> I want something faster
L51[04:40:51] <Inari> Could be realted to sapce legs
L52[04:41:00] <Inari> If you walk around, summon your SRV
L53[04:41:33] <Forecaster> usually the current SRV is fast enough
L54[04:41:39] <Inari> Temia: https://imgur.com/gallery/B8kvkR7
L55[04:41:45] <Izaya> 100km/h isn't bad
L56[04:41:46] <Izaya> but
L57[04:41:54] <Izaya> why not 200? 300?
L58[04:41:55] <Forecaster> I usually end up going too fast with it and hit a rock or something and tumble
L59[04:42:03] <Inari> Same
L60[04:42:18] <Izaya> yeah but that's just the SRV having terrible suspension
L61[04:42:30] <Izaya> should be able to adjust the downward thrust level tbh
L62[04:42:45] <Forecaster> also I more want a bigger srv with more storage capacity
L63[04:42:46] <Forecaster> :P
L64[04:42:55] * Izaya once exploded due to driving over a seam in a surface outpost
L65[04:42:58] <Forecaster> or one specialized for gathering materials specifically
L66[04:43:01] <Inari> I was sort of disappointed that bigger bays just meant more SRVs instead of different ones
L67[04:43:20] <Izaya> a bigger one would be more useful, I'll admit
L68[04:43:32] <Forecaster> I'm sure they'll add more types in the future
L69[04:43:44] <Forecaster> but Frontier don't throw things out hastily
L70[04:45:26] * Lizzy goes to google if there's a way to get her flight stick's to show information on it's LCD from elite
L71[04:45:52] <Izaya> hook up a series of pipes
L72[04:46:04] <Forecaster> a series of tubes?
L73[04:46:09] <Inari> You know what would also be cool with atmospheric
L74[04:46:14] <Inari> Terraforming community events
L75[04:46:17] <Izaya> oh yeah E:D no longer requires extra config to run on proton
L76[04:46:39] <Lizzy> hmm
L77[04:46:45] <Lizzy> i'll have to try it on proton
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L79[04:52:03] <Izaya> works pretty well
L80[04:52:15] <Izaya> they should probably look into a vulkan renderer eventually though
L81[04:52:21] <Izaya> DirectX is a legacy API after all
L82[04:52:46] <Izaya> given windows that means it'll be gone in 30 years but broken in 3
L83[04:54:52] <Lizzy> think i need to free up some space on my SSD first though
L84[04:55:24] <Bob> Vulkan mm
L85[04:55:59] <Lizzy> 19GB free with compression enabled probably isn't going to cut it
L86[04:57:46] <Lizzy> hmm, i don't think i have any more M.2 ports on my board
L87[04:59:16] <Izaya> tfw board only has one
L88[04:59:26] <Izaya> you can get PCI-e to M.2 cards
L89[04:59:31] <Lizzy> i know
L90[04:59:44] <Lizzy> i'm not sure if i have enough slots free for that though
L91[05:00:09] <Lizzy> 2 dual-height cpus make it hard to fit stuff in
L92[05:00:27] <Izaya> gpus?
L93[05:00:33] <Lizzy> yes, gpus
L94[05:00:39] <Lizzy> i can't type today
L95[05:00:44] <Izaya> man GPUs are weird for me
L96[05:00:52] <Izaya> I've replaced sideways twice
L97[05:01:06] <Izaya> GTX 690 x2 -> GTX 980 4GB -> RX 580 8GB
L98[05:01:38] <Izaya> no VRAM upgrade with the 980, and the 580 isn't faster than the 980, just more VRAM
L99[05:01:41] <Izaya> weird times
L100[05:02:56] <Lizzy> hmm, okay it looks like i'd be able to either utilise one of the open-back 1x slots between the Vega64 and 980 or another full x16 sized slot (probably only running at 4x electrically though)
L101[05:03:10] <Izaya> oh that reminds me
L102[05:03:19] <Izaya> I scraped the pegs yesterday, intentionally :D
L103[05:03:27] <Lizzy> ?
L104[05:03:32] <Bob> GTX 600 sries besties
L105[05:03:33] <Forecaster> not the pegs!
L106[05:04:02] <Izaya> https://img.jpcycles.com/zoom/530-831_A.jpg
L107[05:04:04] <Izaya> those things
L108[05:04:19] <Forecaster> %tonkout
L109[05:04:20] <MichiBot> Dad-Sizzle! Forecaster! You beat Kodos's previous record of 1 hour, 24 minutes and 44 seconds (By 4 hours, 8 minutes and 17 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L110[05:04:21] <MichiBot> Forecaster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.55107
L111[05:04:39] <Izaya> scraped the right one going round a roundabout on the way to work yesterday :D
L112[05:05:06] <Lizzy> oh
L113[05:06:44] <Forecaster> %sip random
L114[05:06:44] <MichiBot> You drink a stirring chocolate potion (New!). The ghost of a plant haunts you for a while.
L115[05:06:53] <Corded> * <Forecaster> vacuums it
L116[05:07:37] <Izaya> that's illegal
L117[05:07:53] <Inari> Izaya: thats illegal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5X_OYO7Mv4
L118[05:08:20] <Izaya> cease
L119[05:08:27] <Inari> xD
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L122[05:12:11] <Lizzy> %tonk
L123[05:12:11] <MichiBot> Dogast! Lizzy! You beat Forecaster's previous record of <0 (By 7 minutes and 52 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L124[05:12:12] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 7 minutes and 52 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00013 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
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L129[05:53:27] <Lizzy> :O
L130[05:53:34] <Lizzy> I've just realised something
L131[05:53:56] <Lizzy> I can use AAI Vehicles and stuff and be able to program them with Lua Combinators
L132[05:54:43] <Lizzy> (factorio)
L133[05:55:17] <Spykiller45> oh cool
L134[05:55:54] <Lizzy> so i think I'll add AAI stuff to my current modpack playthrough and see if i can't get a super-awesome setup with it
L135[05:56:55] <Lizzy> think the main things i'll have it do is the clearing out of biter nests
L136[06:01:09] <Lizzy> I wonder if the AAI vehicles trigger the gates in the same way as players
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L139[06:08:50] <Lizzy> %remindme 40m get AAI installed in factorio instance
L140[06:08:50] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "get AAI installed in factorio instance" at 06/07/2019 06:48:50 AM
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L143[06:48:51] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER: get AAI installed in factorio instance
L144[06:49:51] * AmandaC lays on Lizzy's keyboard, demanding attention & affection
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L146[07:03:41] * Lizzy scritches AmandaC's belly
L147[07:03:49] * AmandaC purrs softly. :3
L148[07:03:54] <AmandaC> How're you doing today, Lizzy?
L149[07:06:05] <Lizzy> i am doing well, currently home for lunch and shaving bits of my legs that i missed yesterday
L150[07:06:18] <AmandaC> ah
L151[07:06:34] * AmandaC managed to get more than 5h of sleep last night, which was nice.
L152[07:06:58] <AmandaC> But the tooth pain I have has evolved into a dull, constant rawr
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L154[07:10:54] <Lizzy> :/
L155[07:18:08] <Lizzy> right, lunch is over back to work i go
L156[07:18:16] <AmandaC> safe travels. :)
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L158[07:42:25] <Lizzy> heh, thanks
L159[07:48:44] <Lizzy> hmm, apparently my gpg security key had my current stuff but also some old stuff as well that expired in april... hmm
L160[07:51:10] <Lizzy> i think i'll re-generate the secret key at some point and then work out how to distribute subkeys between devices/services
L161[07:57:33] <Lizzy> hmm, could i utilise the TPM chip i bought the other day to store the master private key...
L162[07:58:32] <stephan48> i am toying with the idea of emulating a TPM chip on my qemu VMs+a Smartcard
L163[07:59:44] <stephan48> (both would sadly need a upgrade to debian unstable qemu/libvirt)
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L167[08:51:08] <Lizzy> %remindme 12h do a security audit of SSH keys
L168[08:51:08] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "do a security audit of SSH keys" at 06/07/2019 08:51:08 PM
L169[08:57:13] <stephan48> out of interest, how do you manage your keys - do you have a central "shell" on which you have: a single ssh key for all your machines? a key for each user@machine combination? do you rather use root@ or a user with sudo & a password stored in a PW manager?
L170[08:58:20] <Lizzy> Desktop and laptop have their own keys for my user. most of my servers only have these two keys in them but some of my older stuff has older keys
L171[08:58:54] <stephan48> so basically "secure" devices which can access all machines?
L172[08:58:58] <Lizzy> my phone uses a mix of some of those older keys and my desktop's key (because when i did that i was getting pissed off trying to remote into things)
L173[08:58:59] <Lizzy> yes
L174[08:59:34] <Lizzy> with the TPM chip in my main pc and stuff for that set up across my devices, I'll probably switch to using the GPG keys for auth
L175[08:59:52] <stephan48> securing the gpg key using gpg-agen and the TPM?
L176[08:59:55] <Lizzy> (laptop can't have a tpm chip sadly)
L177[08:59:56] <stephan48> agent*
L178[09:00:03] <Lizzy> something like that, yesh
L179[09:00:24] <Lizzy> haven't fully set it up yet because i haven't installed the tpm chip
L180[09:00:46] <Lizzy> which might be a challenge in itself cause idk how much space i have left in my case to get my hand in lol
L181[09:01:03] <stephan48> interesting idea! i got several keys on different machines and a central "shell" on the root. there i have indivudal user@machine keys with own passwords.
L182[09:01:08] <stephan48> haha, mini tower?
L183[09:01:28] <Lizzy> currently using a HomeTheater PC case
L184[09:01:32] <stephan48> what chip did you get?
L185[09:01:53] <stephan48> i know my mainboard has one as does the laptop but a pluggable one?
L186[09:02:14] <Lizzy> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B075F8PXSY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 for my pc.
L187[09:02:26] <Lizzy> laptop doesn't have one built in and doesn't have any headers for one
L188[09:02:43] <stephan48> or actually does my pc has one?(pcs) mh. need to check
L189[09:02:44] <stephan48> ah
L190[09:03:50] <stephan48> nice need to check that out
L191[09:04:04] <stephan48> thanks for your time!
L192[09:04:45] <Lizzy> hmm, could have sworn i posted a pic of my case in here in the past
L193[09:04:48] <Lizzy> can't find it though
L194[09:05:38] <stephan48> :D
L195[09:08:33] <Lizzy> https://files.theender.net/newPCCase.jpg
L196[09:09:00] <Lizzy> also didn't realise my 980 was triple slot. gonna have to take that out to install the chip
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L198[09:16:01] <stephan48> cute case :D
L199[09:16:18] <Lizzy> the white one that's just in shot is what i used to use
L200[09:16:36] <Lizzy> but it was too big and was about half the total weight when all the components were inside it
L201[09:17:50] <Forecaster> gasp, naked computers
L202[09:18:10] <stephan48> cover them!
L203[09:21:53] <Forecaster> %sip random
L204[09:21:53] <MichiBot> You drink a viscous diamond potion (New!). Forecaster's toes turn invisible.
L205[09:22:00] <Forecaster> %tonk
L206[09:22:00] <MichiBot> Jeepers! Forecaster! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 7 minutes and 52 seconds (By 4 hours, 1 minute and 57 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L207[09:22:01] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 4 hours, 9 minutes and 49 seconds! Forecaster also gained 0.00403 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L208[09:35:57] <lopezt> what kind of record is he talking about?
L209[09:37:49] <Forecaster> tonk record
L210[09:40:22] * Lizzy pets MichiBot
L211[09:40:23] * MichiBot purrs
L212[09:44:39] <Z0idburg> https://i.redd.it/exwo9i6ptld21.gif
L213[09:44:59] <Forecaster> that's probably illegal
L214[09:45:28] <MGR> No, that's legit
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L217[09:51:40] <AmandaC> @Z0idburg Just Cause 4?
L218[09:51:49] <Z0idburg> Never played it
L219[09:52:01] <AmandaC> lookslike somthing that would h appen in a just cause game
L220[10:01:22] <Z0idburg> heh
L221[10:03:57] <Forecaster> I don't see any tethers though
L222[10:05:59] <AmandaC> @Forecaster I've managed to make perpetual motion machines with them in JC3, long after the thruster / teathers have been broken
L223[10:06:40] <Forecaster> :P
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L226[10:26:04] <Lizzy> right, it's get-changed-then-home-time
L227[10:26:05] <Lizzy> well
L228[10:26:11] <Lizzy> go to family time
L229[10:41:45] <Lizzy> And waiting for the train
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L235[11:34:00] <Lizzy> aand at grandparents
L236[11:42:45] <Zef> So there are insane size maps for unturned and the one I looked at had a huge warning not to host a server with it on the same PC you're playing it on
L237[11:42:54] <Zef> Guess who's gonna ignore that warning
L238[11:43:36] <Corded> * <Forecaster> glares at MichiBot
L239[11:44:36] <Bob> Unturned mmm
L240[11:44:50] <Zef> It's not a bad game by any measure
L241[11:47:24] <Bob> I know
L242[11:47:29] <Forecaster> I'm pretty sure many games are bad by a ton of measures
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L244[11:47:46] <Zef> Well unturned is not one of those
L245[11:47:53] <Bob> i can agree
L246[11:48:51] <Forecaster> no I mean as in, "I want this to be Tetris, it's not Tetris, therefore it's bad" etc :P
L247[11:49:05] <Forecaster> so saying "any measure" is false
L248[11:49:41] <Zef> "How good is unturned at being tetris? Well, disappointing to say the least"
L249[11:50:24] <Forecaster> exactly
L250[12:03:22] <Lizzy> fuck
L251[12:03:36] <Lizzy> don't think i copied the right datafiles for factorio from my pc...
L252[12:04:01] <Forecaster> no factorio for you
L253[12:05:11] <Lizzy> oh
L254[12:05:18] <Lizzy> i know where it is
L255[12:05:26] <Bob> Im making a factorio mod but all goes horribly wrong and i end up using all my system ram by introducing soem kind of unknown loop
L256[12:06:50] <Lizzy> yep, found the stuff
L257[12:06:53] <Lizzy> it's in .factorio/
L258[12:08:23] <lopezt> Hey guys, is someone familar with the minitel program which is availabe through oppm?
L259[12:09:16] <Forecaster> I dunno, maybe Izaya
L260[12:09:36] <Forecaster> it's a long shot tough
L261[12:09:41] <Bob> same goes for me i have no idea neither who did it
L262[12:10:37] <Forecaster> Izaya made it...
L263[12:10:57] <lopezt> lol
L264[12:11:02] <lopezt> where did you copy this chat from?
L265[12:11:18] <Forecaster> what?
L266[12:11:38] <lopezt> are you guys using the corded client as a proxy?
L267[12:11:45] <Forecaster> Corded is a discord relay
L268[12:11:45] <Bob> Discord IRC relay
L269[12:11:53] <Forecaster> https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel
L270[12:11:56] <lopezt> oh its discord
L271[12:12:08] <lopezt> yeah thats the minitel i am talking about
L272[12:12:35] <Lizzy> Izaya is the one who wrote that.
L273[12:12:44] <Lizzy> think hs'e sleeping at the moment though
L274[12:12:52] <Forecaster> I already said that :P
L275[12:13:11] <Lizzy> you didn't include the sleeping part!
L276[12:13:13] <lopezt> the program seems to be maintained
L277[12:13:17] <lopezt> lol
L278[12:13:19] <Forecaster> it is
L279[12:15:14] <Lizzy> there we go
L280[12:15:19] <Lizzy> got stuff
L281[12:15:26] <Lizzy> now, will my laptop handle it
L282[12:15:29] <Forecaster> yay stuff
L283[12:19:57] <Saphire> Hmph
L284[12:20:18] <Saphire> ...please tell me something horrible about gsuite so I don't get it for managing mail of my 4 domains c.c
L285[12:20:43] <Forecaster> it's called "gsuite"
L286[12:21:02] <Skye> if your normal google account is locked it deletes all gsuite stuff related to you
L287[12:21:21] <Saphire> ...wait really? V:
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L289[12:22:27] <Skye> maybe not delete
L290[12:22:28] <Skye> but like
L291[12:22:34] <Skye> if you're banned from google
L292[12:22:42] <Skye> it bans you from gsuite as well
L293[12:22:55] <Skye> it has nearly killed a startup IIRC
L294[12:23:00] <AmandaC> lots of stuff doesnt' work as well for gsuite acocunts as normal gmail ones
L295[12:23:32] <AmandaC> services are rolled out to gmail first, and slowly trickle into gsuite users
L296[12:26:04] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L297[12:26:04] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 4 hours, 9 minutes and 49 seconds this time. 3 hours, 4 minutes and 3 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 5 minutes and 45 seconds!
L298[12:26:08] <CompanionCube> damn
L299[12:28:14] <Skye> AmandaC, that's an advantage lol
L300[12:29:24] <AmandaC> co-admin who uses it for his vanity domain disagrees. :P
L301[12:40:44] <Forecaster> seems the AI is having some issues flying the type-9 http://tinyurl.com/yxp9hwmw
L302[12:41:18] <MGR> I remember once a friend and I tried to race two Anacondas into the slot, and killed a Viper trying to leave by crushing it between us
L303[12:41:47] <Forecaster> now this is all that's left of the type9 http://tinyurl.com/y3vuynkt
L304[12:44:00] <Forecaster> that almost happened to me when the docking computer tried to enter a station
L305[12:44:12] <Forecaster> with a type9
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L307[12:58:28] <Skye> Saphire, I use mailbox.org for my emails
L308[12:59:03] <Saphire> Hmm
L309[12:59:08] <Saphire> Never heard
L310[12:59:17] <Skye> very cheap
L311[13:00:20] <Skye> and they seem mostly competent
L312[13:13:08] <Z0idburg> what you playing forecaster
L313[13:13:24] <AmandaC> E:D
L314[13:13:58] <AmandaC> ( I assume )
L315[13:14:25] <Forecaster> I was yes
L316[13:18:26] <Kodos> I feel like I’m the only one to never have issues with a dc on a t9
L317[13:19:03] <Forecaster> seems there's a bug in E:D regarding that
L318[13:33:30] <Tym17> hi, do anybody knows a lua transpiler that works fine with OC? I've tried CSharp.Lua but didn't manage to make it work on the first go, i prob need more time but i was curious if yall had anything similar
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L320[13:34:50] <AmandaC> transpile to lua?
L321[13:35:04] <AmandaC> There's a couple lisp-alikes that transpile to lua
L322[13:35:12] <AmandaC> Vexatos will probably say "Selene"
L323[13:35:51] <AmandaC> You're not likely to find much in the way of compiling heavy languages like CSharp / Java to Lua
L324[13:36:09] <AmandaC> And if you do, it'll likely use too much memory under OC
L325[13:41:22] <payonel> o/
L326[13:41:41] <Vexatos> it's the payonnaise
L327[13:41:49] <Vexatos> payonel, I thought you were dead D:
L328[13:41:58] <Forecaster> and the vexatoes!
L329[13:42:13] <Vexatos> D:
L330[13:42:18] <payonel> Vexatos: work was very stressful for the first part of this year
L331[13:42:22] <payonel> i'm back
L332[13:42:38] <payonel> i really would like to retire
L333[13:42:41] <Vexatos> Cruor's coming to visit the next week so I had to do three weeks of work in two weeks
L334[13:42:48] <payonel> need a lot more money to do that, though
L335[13:42:48] <Vexatos> I know how you feel
L336[13:43:06] <Vexatos> At least you're getting paid
L337[13:43:24] <payonel> @Tym17 can i see the lua output it generated for you that didn't work?
L338[13:44:06] <payonel> Vexatos: how do you say retire in german?
L339[13:44:16] <Vexatos> payonel, formally or informally
L340[13:44:21] <payonel> informally
L341[13:44:45] <Vexatos> "in den Ruhestand treten" is the formal term
L342[13:45:13] <Vexatos> there is also a semantic difference depending on whether you were employed by a private company or the government
L343[13:45:36] <Vexatos> since civil servants get special retirement treatment
L344[13:46:27] <Forecaster> from being back? :P
L345[13:47:09] <Vexatos> payonel is secretly 67 years old and eligible for retirement
L346[13:47:21] <payonel> ha
L347[13:49:05] <payonel> i was born in 1981
L348[13:49:15] <Vexatos> not quite ready for retirement then
L349[13:49:23] <payonel> nope
L350[13:51:37] <Lizzy> update: laptop is handling factorio very well
L351[13:52:30] <payonel> with sound?
L352[13:56:45] <Bob> Factorio is good and optimized kind off sop
L353[13:56:57] <Bob> ~~unlike mc~~
L354[13:57:49] <Forecaster> it's also 2D
L355[13:58:00] <Lizzy> ^
L356[13:58:04] <Lizzy> also no sound
L357[13:58:21] <Lizzy> it has sound on my pc but for some reason not on here
L358[13:58:27] <Lizzy> not that it bothers me
L359[14:00:55] <Inari> The 2D part probably helps quite a bit hehe
L360[14:03:26] <Forecaster> you don't say :P
L361[14:09:37] <Kodos> Vex tel Cruor I said hi
L362[14:12:51] <Vexatos> Cruor: Kodos told me to tell you he said hi
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L364[14:20:08] <lopezt> Hey nos
L365[14:20:13] <nos> hai
L366[14:20:19] <lopezt> whats up?
L367[14:20:29] <nos> server banned chunkloaders
L368[14:20:43] <lopezt> oh noes
L369[14:20:45] <nos> so, will now have to think deeply
L370[14:20:51] <lopezt> what kind of server you have been?
L371[14:21:07] <nos> Kinetic network.
L372[14:21:14] <nos> Infinity modpack.
L373[14:21:18] <lopezt> sounds interesting
L374[14:21:38] <nos> Has some good people.
L375[14:21:40] <lopezt> so the infiinty modpack, is it rather a heavyweight modpack or midweight?
L376[14:21:54] <nos> Midweight.
L377[14:21:57] <nos> 1.7.10
L378[14:22:00] <lopezt> cool
L379[14:22:05] <lopezt> i might try this one
L380[14:22:26] <nos> They also had to ban renches.
L381[14:22:30] <nos> ~ wrenches
L382[14:22:47] <nos> But otherwise the claim system is pretty good.
L383[14:23:16] <nos> There have been greifers...
L384[14:23:27] <lopezt> maybe some robots with the chunkloader upgrade would sove your problem? or are these also banned?
L385[14:23:45] <nos> They just don't know those exist.
L386[14:23:52] <Bob> ahah
L387[14:23:56] <lopezt> lol
L388[14:24:10] <lopezt> so this means you can solve your problem with it?
L389[14:24:20] <nos> Only temporarily.
L390[14:24:28] <lopezt> why this?
L391[14:24:42] <nos> They will ban them when they find out about them.
L392[14:24:52] <lopezt> hmm ok
L393[14:26:25] <nos> I'll have to see about setting up redstone to output sensible defaults.
L394[14:26:38] <nos> And then override that with OC.
L395[14:27:12] <nos> I have been working on a survailance system to catch greifers.
L396[14:29:46] <nos> oh, and save the detections to disk, since I can't rely on a screenfull of text to be enough anymore
L397[14:30:03] <nos> that means log rotation and filtering... *sigh*
L398[14:32:22] <lopezt> how do you want to verride redstone and there force a chunk to beloaded?
L399[14:33:29] <nos> It's a hatch a friend uses to let people into his VIP zone.
L400[14:35:10] <nos> It was an easy edit to the motion sensor program, just making all sides of the computer output redstone when it sees someone it usually filters from the output.
L401[14:35:40] <nos> I'd like to make something that can be added as a loot disk on the server.
L402[14:35:54] <AmandaC> You don't need to force the chunk to be loaded to save data. OC computers don't get shut down when the chunk unloads
L403[14:36:21] <nos> oh...
L404[14:36:22] <nos> hm
L405[14:36:31] <nos> Then I have a different problem.
L406[14:36:52] <Inari> Chunkloaders are easy to get
L407[14:37:01] <Inari> Just costs you an MC account to load a whole bunch of chunks
L408[14:37:02] <nos> Not when they are banned.
L409[14:37:08] <nos> ah
L410[14:37:32] <nos> well no, 'idle pools' are also banned
L411[14:37:44] <nos> and you get kicked for idling
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L415[14:41:15] <Tym17> @payonel I don't have it right now but I think it's mainly my fault for messing with the paths. I didn't look too much into it because I was on my lunch break when I tried. Thanks for the answers anyway @AmandaC & @payonel
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L417[14:42:14] <payonel> @Tym17 sounds great
L418[14:43:17] <nos> https://github.com/rxi/log.lua :D
L419[14:43:32] <nos> now, log rotation...
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L422[14:47:46] <AmandaC> is `debug.getinfo` available under OC?
L423[14:47:59] <AmandaC> if not, that log library won't work
L424[14:51:35] <payonel> AmandaC: there is a getinfo wrapper
L425[14:51:44] <AmandaC> ah
L426[14:52:35] <payonel> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/lua/machine.lua#L961
L427[14:55:53] <payonel> AmandaC and nos: so, looking at the log code, looks like you take short_src and currentline. and yes, we allow BOTH of those fields in OC
L428[14:56:01] <payonel> so, it'll work
L429[14:58:30] <nos> ya, did some tests with it already :D
L430[14:58:38] <payonel> ah...
L431[14:58:42] <payonel> well, testing works too
L432[14:58:49] <nos> xD
L433[15:00:35] <CompanionCube> Izaya: https://blog.adafruit.com/2019/06/04/new-guide-python-is-in-the-latest-build-of-windows-10-adafruitlearningsystem-python-adafruit-win10-windows-adafruit/
L434[15:01:24] <lopezt> nos, the modpack you are playing is this? https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/kinetic-infinity?gameCategorySlug=modpacks&projectID=311734
L435[15:02:29] <nos> lopezt: yup
L436[15:17:43] <Forecaster> %sip random
L437[15:17:44] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating aether potion (New!). Forecaster's nails turn the color of aqua.
L438[15:20:31] <AmandaC> That language's a bit weird. "the color of <colour>" is weird
L439[15:31:59] <payonel> how do i get a potion?
L440[15:32:02] <payonel> %potion
L441[15:32:02] <MichiBot> payonel: You get a mutable rød potion (New!)
L442[15:32:10] <payonel> %drink potion
L443[15:32:10] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize...
L444[15:32:16] <payonel> how do i drink it?
L445[15:32:26] <payonel> %drink ^
L446[15:32:26] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize...
L447[15:32:37] <payonel> %drink
L448[15:32:37] <MichiBot> Drink what?
L449[15:32:44] <Forecaster> do %drink ^ or %drink <potion> or just %drink random
L450[15:33:05] <payonel> so i ruined the option to use ^ because i failed the first time?
L451[15:33:15] <payonel> %drink mutable rød potion
L452[15:33:15] <MichiBot> payonel turns into a golem.
L453[15:33:18] <payonel> NICE
L454[15:33:32] <Forecaster> she looks back for the first message that contains "potion"
L455[15:33:36] <Forecaster> then stops
L456[15:33:43] <Forecaster> if it's not a valid potion it fails
L457[15:33:48] <payonel> gotcha
L458[15:34:15] <Forecaster> if I said molten tiberium potion you could do it
L459[15:34:20] <Forecaster> probably
L460[15:35:03] <Inari> %drink salmon rød potion
L461[15:35:04] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize...
L462[15:35:20] <Forecaster> that's two "colors"
L463[15:35:23] <Inari> :P
L464[15:35:24] <Inari> Lame
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L466[15:36:07] <Inari> Lame.MP£ BUY NOW with AC+ + + ++ ++++PLUSPLUSPLUS
L467[15:36:41] * AmandaC offers Inari a mutable salmon potion instead
L468[15:36:49] <Inari> %drnink ^
L469[15:36:51] <Inari> %drink ^
L470[15:36:52] <MichiBot> Inari turns into a turtle bird.
L471[15:36:55] <Inari> ¬_¬
L472[15:37:16] <Inari> AmandaC: Whats with you and mutable potions anyway.
L473[15:37:35] <AmandaC> I like seeing what they turn you in to. :3
L474[15:37:43] <Inari> ¬_¬
L475[15:37:54] * AmandaC giggleflees to hide behind Temia
L476[15:38:06] <Inari> Temia likes me now though
L477[15:38:09] <Inari> You made a grave mistake
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L479[15:38:26] zsh sets mode: +v on Kilobyte
L480[15:38:34] <AmandaC> does she?
L481[15:38:35] <Inari> ~markov Kilobyte
L482[15:38:36] <ocdoc> a bit how a try/catch looks really nice stuff in a x86 code gen also applies possibly more made like perfect way too hot today
L483[15:38:39] <Inari> AmandaC: Yes, I'm a birb
L484[15:38:43] <Inari> Granted, a tutrle one.
L485[15:38:44] <Inari> But still
L486[15:38:44] <AmandaC> oh shi--
L487[15:39:00] * AmandaC flees to hide behind Lizzy instead
L488[15:41:18] <Meff> Hello, I have a question regarding oppm: If I add my repository to the oppm.cfg in /etc, like the example suggest i do at https://ocdoc.cil.li/tutorial:program:oppm?s[]=internet , is that everything to it and should "oppm install "package name" work ?
L489[15:42:25] <Bob> Most likely, i don't use OPPM, keep in mind that editing the config only will work for the pc you edit the config on so
L490[15:43:31] <Meff> Thank you, and yeah i'm aware of that fact. Currently I'm not getting it to work however sadly. I think i have the syntax in the cfg file right and i'm not sure where to look next for getting it to work.
L491[15:43:48] <Bob> The syntax is Lua tables so
L492[15:44:12] <Inari> Start with specifying what you mean by it not working
L493[15:44:31] <payonel> @Meff are you trying to install existing oppm packages? or are you trying to author a new one?
L494[15:45:38] <CompanionCube> %potion
L495[15:45:38] <MichiBot> CompanionCube: You get a sedimented iron potion (New!)
L496[15:45:42] <CompanionCube> %drink ^
L497[15:45:43] <MichiBot> CompanionCube gains the proportional strength of a water.
L498[15:45:48] <CompanionCube> i what
L499[15:45:57] <Forecaster> a water
L500[15:46:13] <CompanionCube> but you can't have a single 'water'
L501[15:46:22] <Inari> You absoultely can
L502[15:46:30] <Inari> People here order "a water" all the time in restaurants
L503[15:46:40] <Forecaster> ^
L504[15:46:50] <Bob> can i have a water please ?
L505[15:47:01] <Bob> even two
L506[15:47:03] <Meff> oh right, sorry somewhat new to this, not working in this sense means that after i type in "oppm install 'packagename'", it firstly hangs on "installing package to /usr..." and will then say :"package does not exist"
L507[15:47:09] <CompanionCube> so what even is the proportional strength of a glass of water?
L508[15:47:13] <Meff> it's installing existing packages fine
L509[15:47:59] <Meff> i've got a personal package hosted on github, the code all works, it's just that i've probably done something wrong somewhere which confuses oppm
L510[15:48:41] <Meff> but as long as i know it should still work according to the ocdoc tutorial i suppose i can keep digging
L511[15:49:35] <Forecaster> well, how much stronger would you be after drinking a glass of water?
L512[15:50:56] <Inari> Depends on how dehydrated you are
L513[15:51:13] <Inari> If you drink any water though
L514[15:51:15] <Inari> Drink Evian
L515[15:51:21] <Temia> Wait what
L516[15:51:34] <Inari> Temia: What what
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L518[15:51:41] <Bob> @Meff maybe it needs a dependency and doesnt find ir
L519[15:51:55] <Bob> like it installs the package but then stops at an missing dependency
L520[15:51:57] <Forecaster> I have never bought bottled water and probably never will, if I can avoid it
L521[15:52:21] <Inari> I mean
L522[15:52:32] <Inari> A pipeline straight to the source would be too expensive
L523[15:52:38] * Temia picks up Amanda and brandishes a lead pipe at Inari
L524[15:52:48] <Inari> Temia: Why D:
L525[15:52:50] <Inari> I'm a birb!
L526[15:53:09] <Temia> Because cat
L527[15:53:18] <Inari> What
L528[15:53:44] <Inari> Temia: Also did you see my hawk link?
L529[15:53:55] <Temia> Yus
L530[15:53:58] <Meff> @bob the code on there, if properly copied, should have everything it needs. Unless i'm unaware of what dependencies could also mean besides other code.
L531[15:53:59] <Temia> Birb :>
L532[15:54:12] <Inari> I wanna cuddle it
L533[15:54:13] <Meff> @Bob the code on there, if properly copied, should have everything it needs. Unless i'm unaware of what dependencies could also mean besides other code. [Edited]
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L535[16:22:37] <Lizzy> i regret telling my pc to update all packages before i restart
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L537[16:31:28] <bad at vijya> so i'm making a CPIO archiver for OpenComputers
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L541[16:58:04] <Lizzy> Yay, changed some bios stuff now my pc won't boot
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L543[17:10:44] <baschdel> %tonk
L544[17:10:44] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! baschdel! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 4 hours, 9 minutes and 49 seconds (By 34 minutes and 50 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L545[17:10:45] <MichiBot> baschdel's new record is 4 hours, 44 minutes and 40 seconds! baschdel also gained 0.0029 (0.00058 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L546[17:12:08] <Lizzy> and fixed it
L547[17:14:12] * baschdel wishes debugging equals() functions in java was that easy ...
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L549[17:20:37] <Lizzy> in other news, tpm chip is installed and so far nothing has gotten worse
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L551[17:31:13] * baschdel realizzes that he forgot to implement equals functions in 8 classes ?♂️
L552[17:32:17] * AmandaC laughs in kotlin data classes
L553[17:54:00] <baschdel> These data classes seem to be less fun and more fun at the same time ...
L554[17:56:06] <AmandaC> You can still override the various generated functions, if nessary
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L556[18:02:32] <lopezt> what kind of class construct do you guys use in oc?
L557[18:02:49] <lopezt> writing in lua reminds me to javascript
L558[18:04:24] <baschdel> AmandaC: Looks interesting, but not for this project (It's (hopefully) finshed after the thingy that reads commands from the network and call the internal API is finished)
L559[18:04:45] <lopezt> thats actually the same what i am doing
L560[18:06:35] <baschdel> Ok I have no idea what timezone you're all in but for me it's getting too late ... good night
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L565[19:27:31] <CompanionCube> lopezt: you can sort-of build an OOP system in lua
L566[19:27:36] <CompanionCube> there are libraries for such things
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L571[20:00:19] <lopezt> CompanionCube: anything you suggest?
L572[20:00:37] <CompanionCube> I don't have any specific suggestions
L573[20:00:44] <lopezt> actually i m quite happy with my construct
L574[20:01:00] <lopezt> i found some solutions, but not all were really working
L575[20:01:07] <CompanionCube> may as well show it
L576[20:01:22] <lopezt> lol, you are right
L577[20:02:26] <lopezt> and then i was afraid i would start building onto something what later aproves as fail, so i started to work with closures and metatables
L578[20:51:08] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER: do a security audit of SSH keys
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