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L2[01:36:51] <The_Stargazer> oh ffs
L3[01:36:55] <The_Stargazer> `fatal error LNK1112: module machine type 'x64' conflicts with target machine type 'x86'`
L4[01:37:08] <The_Stargazer> the hell does this mean
L5[01:37:16] <The_Stargazer> does it mean i can't compile openssl 32bit on 64bit os
L6[01:45:10] <Izaya> no it means you're trying to link a 64-bit library for a 32-bit object
L7[01:45:11] <Izaya> probably
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L13[04:07:44] <Forecaster> wellp, I'm no longer stuck on the gnosis
L14[04:08:12] <Forecaster> the solution was "shoot it, get killed and respawn"
L15[04:12:25] <Izaya> ez
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L18[04:30:15] <Forecaster> gluing a piece back onto my glasses with superglue then putting them on right away = sharp pain in eye
L19[04:30:22] <Forecaster> #thingsIlearnedtoday
L20[04:37:43] <Kodos> %tonk
L21[04:37:46] <MichiBot> Willikers! Kodos! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 4 hours, 22 minutes and 52 seconds (By 1 hour, 57 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L22[04:37:47] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record is 6 hours, 20 minutes and 21 seconds! Kodos also gained 0.0098 (0.00196 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L23[04:43:35] <Forecaster> %sip random
L24[04:43:37] <MichiBot> You drink a runny amethyst potion (New!). Forecaster recovers some mana.
L25[04:43:55] <Corded> * <Forecaster> casts "Waste mana"
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L32[06:07:16] * AmandaC sulks that Inari never drank the mutable stainless steel potion she gave her yesterday
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L35[06:08:16] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L36[06:08:18] <Inari> :P
L37[06:08:33] <AmandaC> Do you have any idea how hard it is to concoct potions without thumbs!?
L38[06:27:18] <AmandaC> They don't even make sterile gloves for cats! I have to make due with human ones!
L39[06:39:51] <Vexatos> nitrile gloves are soo expensive :I
L40[06:40:06] <Vexatos> source: am professional potion concocter
L41[06:47:53] * Lizzy builds some bionic claws for AmandaC to help her brew potions
L42[07:10:11] * AmandaC meows happily at Lizzy
L43[07:14:03] <Skye> %sip random
L44[07:14:03] <MichiBot> You drink a resonating strawberry potion (New!). Skye feels like one particular wasp has it out for them suddenly.
L45[07:49:24] <Z0idburg> CompanionCube probably because big companies actually hinder innovation
L46[07:49:29] <Z0idburg> the one thing they have is money to spend
L47[07:49:40] <Z0idburg> that != innovation
L48[07:50:08] <Z0idburg> There needs to be a balance
L49[07:50:30] <Z0idburg> Might be worth it to nerf patents
L50[09:47:13] <AmandaC> %8ball start again?
L51[09:47:13] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Without a doubt
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L62[11:51:42] <Shinon> I've been toying around this idea i have, using computronic speakers to play opus audio
L63[12:01:24] <Vexatos> You'd be like the fourth person ever to use Computronics's sound card
L64[12:01:49] <Vexatos> well, assuming you want to use that and not the tape drive
L65[12:02:00] <Shinon> lol
L66[12:02:49] <Z0idburg> Vexatos you mean you don't use the sound card to transmit FSK?
L67[12:03:00] <Z0idburg> so you can transfer files to other players
L68[12:03:25] <Vexatos> The sound card works on frequencies instead of wave data so you'd have to implement FT in lua
L69[12:03:37] <Forecaster> %tonkout
L70[12:03:38] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Forecaster! You beat Kodos's previous record of 6 hours, 20 minutes and 21 seconds (By 1 hour, 5 minutes and 30 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L71[12:03:39] <MichiBot> Forecaster has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.52408
L72[12:04:13] <Forecaster> woo, back in first place
L73[12:05:53] <Z0idburg> WOAH
L74[12:06:00] <Z0idburg> the computronics sound card supports AM
L75[12:06:13] <Z0idburg> through ADSR envelopes
L76[12:06:26] <Vexatos> @Z0idburg it also supports AM
L77[12:06:27] <Vexatos> through
L78[12:06:28] <Vexatos> you know
L79[12:06:46] <Z0idburg> doAM?
L80[12:06:50] <Z0idburg> lol
L81[12:06:51] <Shinon> what is AM?
L82[12:06:54] <Z0idburg> woops
L83[12:06:58] <Z0idburg> Amplitude modulation
L84[12:07:03] <Shinon> Ah
L85[12:07:12] <Z0idburg> Please tell me you know what that is
L86[12:07:18] <Vexatos> setAM
L87[12:07:22] <Vexatos> I:
L88[12:07:29] <Shinon> Kinda
L89[12:07:46] <Z0idburg> never listened to AM signals in the car?
L90[12:07:47] <Vexatos> it also has setFM
L91[12:08:00] <Vexatos> @Z0idburg did you even ever use it >_<
L92[12:08:00] <Z0idburg> hmm
L93[12:08:02] <Z0idburg> FM is nice
L94[12:08:10] <Z0idburg> no I'm reading the docs
L95[12:08:10] <Shinon> AM doesnt really exist now a days.
L96[12:08:23] <Shinon> ...wait it has FM?
L97[12:08:28] <Z0idburg> there's a lot more AM stations here than there is FM stations
L98[12:08:33] <Z0idburg> for commercial radio
L99[12:08:42] <Shinon> There is litterally no AM stations in my country
L100[12:08:42] <Z0idburg> but people only listen to FM because they forget AM exists
L101[12:08:52] <Z0idburg> heh
L102[12:08:54] <Z0idburg> why is that
L103[12:08:55] <Vexatos> https://git.io/fjBjJ
L104[12:09:06] <Z0idburg> AM is a lot lower bandwidth
L105[12:09:18] <Vexatos> exactly, FM can transmit higher quality sound
L106[12:09:22] <Z0idburg> and with SSB its even lower
L107[12:10:03] <Z0idburg> That's only true due to the predicted nature of how noise works
L108[12:10:30] <Vexatos> but it is true either way
L109[12:10:37] <Z0idburg> in reality in an ideal world AM and FM are no better other than the fact that FM is worse in the fact that it requires more bandwidth
L110[12:10:47] <Vexatos> which is irrelevant nowadays
L111[12:11:21] <Vexatos> radio channels are always more than 0.4MHz apart
L112[12:11:38] <Shinon> how much bytes can tape data store?
L113[12:11:39] <Vexatos> and around the 100MHz area
L114[12:11:44] <Z0idburg> it is relevant when you realize how much bandwidth FM stations waste. My radio in my car I have to spin the wheel several times to escape the station and go to the next one unless I punch in the station manually
L115[12:12:07] <Vexatos> @Shinon which version of minecraft?
L116[12:12:13] <Shinon> assuming 1.12.2
L117[12:12:20] <Z0idburg> 300 Khz is actually a massive ammount of waste bandwidth.
L118[12:12:30] <Vexatos> 6000 bytes per second
L119[12:12:36] <Vexatos> the length of a tape is in its tooltip
L120[12:12:42] <Shinon> gotcha
L121[12:12:45] <Z0idburg> an AM station can use as little as a few Khz including the space between it and another station
L122[12:12:55] <Vexatos> also tape.getSize() ofc
L123[12:13:11] <Vexatos> @Z0idburg but there is no need to worry about it
L124[12:13:16] <Vexatos> there aren't that many radio stations
L125[12:13:18] <Vexatos> so why bother
L126[12:13:28] <Z0idburg> also, an AM station can decide to cut half of its entire bandwidth for twice the distance on the same ammount of power
L127[12:13:34] <Z0idburg> its called single sideband transmission
L128[12:13:35] <Vexatos> but why bother?
L129[12:14:07] <Shinon> ...i just noticed that I can fit 32kbps opus data on a 5 minute disk. the track is 3 minutes long.
L130[12:14:11] <Shinon> ...i just noticed that I can fit 32kbps opus data on a 5 minute disk the track is 3 minutes long. [Edited]
L131[12:14:13] <Z0idburg> Because I dunno about where you live but there's very little space here for stations
L132[12:14:33] <Z0idburg> it's only 20.8Mhz
L133[12:14:34] <Z0idburg> for FM
L134[12:14:42] <Vexatos> stations over here are between 80 and 110 MHz
L135[12:14:53] <Z0idburg> so about the same
L136[12:15:03] <Z0idburg> its 87 to 108 here ~
L137[12:15:05] <Vexatos> and there is still plenty of space left
L138[12:15:13] <Z0idburg> 108 is where the aircraft band comes in
L139[12:15:42] <Shinon> Vex there is no way to individually write samples?
L140[12:16:10] <Vexatos> in a sound card? heck no
L141[12:16:15] <Vexatos> it's a sound card for that reason
L142[12:16:21] <Vexatos> if you want to write samples, the tape drive exists
L143[12:16:27] <Vexatos> you can write dfpwm samples there
L144[12:16:34] <TheRealBob> tapes use DFPWM
L145[12:16:39] <Shinon> Eurgh
L146[12:16:42] <Shinon> yeah.
L147[12:16:49] <Vexatos> that's the whole reason I made the sound card
L148[12:17:02] <Vexatos> to have an audio system not based on normal sample data
L149[12:17:15] <Vexatos> it acts more like a real sound card
L150[12:17:39] <Vexatos> from back when you couldn't just store a 25MB audio file
L151[12:19:43] <Z0idburg> did you know vex
L152[12:19:53] <Z0idburg> it's dead simple to make your own high speed ADC
L153[12:19:58] <Z0idburg> er sorry
L154[12:19:59] <Z0idburg> DAC
L155[12:22:01] <Vexatos> hm?
L156[12:26:06] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/y4uau3az
L157[12:26:08] <Z0idburg> 8 bit DAC
L158[12:27:25] <Z0idburg> yes its inverted but that's a very easy fix
L159[12:27:42] <Z0idburg> I like inverted inputs because it doesnt matter to me ?
L160[12:28:08] <Z0idburg> inverted on the outputs I mean
L161[12:29:34] <Z0idburg> have you seen this?
L162[12:29:35] <Z0idburg> https://gist.github.com/Fingercomp/0773bb0714296c0cb00d70a696d39bb3#file-03-additive-synthesis-md
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L164[12:32:16] <Vexatos> ...yes?
L165[12:32:29] <Vexatos> Fingercomp is one of the three people that used the sound card in the past :^)
L166[12:32:40] <Z0idburg> but anyways, I realized it the other day since that op amp configuration is an adder
L167[12:32:42] <Z0idburg> I was like, OH
L168[12:32:46] <Z0idburg> I can use that to make a DAC
L169[12:33:04] <Z0idburg> so when I make my VGA video output I will just use 3 op amps then
L170[12:33:07] <Z0idburg> for R G B
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L172[12:36:44] <Z0idburg> it lets you make really complex ones too
L173[12:36:48] <Forecaster> "Meowtroidvania Gato Roboto pounces into stores next week"
L174[12:36:49] <Z0idburg> the DAC design
L175[12:37:00] <Z0idburg> ?
L176[12:37:08] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/yygps9xq
L177[12:37:13] <Forecaster> This looks like a gameboy game
L178[12:38:56] <Z0idburg> isnt it?
L179[12:39:08] <Forecaster> no
L180[12:39:15] <Z0idburg> how many colors does it have
L181[12:39:46] <Forecaster> what's a color?
L182[12:39:49] <Z0idburg> I can so far see 3
L183[12:39:53] <Z0idburg> gameboys had 4
L184[12:40:10] <Forecaster> https://youtu.be/MZMF41Yopy8
L185[12:40:20] <MichiBot> Gato Roboto - Release Date Trailer | length: 1m 2s | Likes: 1,483 Dislikes: 13 Views: 32,391 | by DevolverDigital | Published On 23/5/2019
L186[12:41:12] <Z0idburg> runs too smooth to be a gameboy game
L187[12:41:17] <Z0idburg> gameboys didnt play like that
L188[12:41:35] <Forecaster> cause it's not a gameboy game...
L189[13:04:09] <Temia> Not even remotely Gameboy-related.
L190[13:04:13] <Z0idburg> it should be
L191[13:04:24] <Z0idburg> I want it to be
L192[13:04:33] <Temia> Well it isn't
L193[13:04:35] <Z0idburg> I need it to be
L194[13:04:43] <Z0idburg> MAKE IT NAU
L195[13:04:45] <Temia> This is closer to a monochrome MacOS look
L196[13:05:08] <Z0idburg> I dunno my mac was green iirc
L197[13:05:20] <Z0idburg> if apple II counts as a mac
L198[13:05:23] <Z0idburg> lolol
L199[13:05:33] <Temia> :I
L200[13:05:39] <Z0idburg> I actually remember somebody who had a monochrome mac laptop actually..
L201[13:05:44] <Z0idburg> I wonder what it was..
L202[13:09:23] <Z0idburg> it looked kinda like this
L203[13:09:29] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/y3sqhrgk
L204[13:09:29] <Z0idburg> as I remember
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L207[15:17:44] <Forecaster> excellent...
L208[15:17:56] <Forecaster> my art site is sort-of-broken
L209[15:18:08] <Forecaster> the api returns a 500 error
L210[15:18:23] <Forecaster> but when I turn on display_errors there's just an empty page...
L211[15:35:37] <Forecaster> %tonk
L212[15:35:39] <MichiBot> Heckgosh! Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 3 hours and 32 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L213[15:35:40] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 hours and 32 minutes! No points gained for stealing from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00353 x 1 = 0.00353)
L214[15:36:11] <Funglee22> Does anyone else have an issue connecting to the wiki?
L215[15:36:46] <Forecaster> nope
L216[15:38:07] <Funglee22> Well rip my connection I guess
L217[15:39:46] <Corded> * <Forecaster> grumbles
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L226[17:54:35] <AmandaC> %calc 4 * 9 * 5
L227[17:54:40] <MichiBot> AmandaC: 180
L228[17:54:50] <AmandaC> damn
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L236[20:24:44] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/yxpgcvwl
L237[20:24:51] <Z0idburg> guess what that is
L238[20:27:24] <Izaya> A big fibre or phone cable
L239[20:27:27] <Izaya> One of the two
L240[20:27:41] <Izaya> For under the sea
L241[20:28:02] <Temia> A cross-section of my collagen.
L242[20:28:24] <Temia> (note: not a serious answer)
L243[20:32:20] <Izaya> Hm
L244[20:32:43] <Izaya> When I royally fuck up these fairings I might glue them back together and wrap them
L245[20:32:51] <Izaya> Itasha bike >:D
L246[20:34:12] <Z0idburg> It's an 1,800 twisted pair telephone cable from 1922
L247[20:34:44] <Z0idburg> must have been for a metropolis
L248[20:36:43] <Izaya> https://i.redd.it/4jj14nd1lfz21.jpg
L249[20:37:03] <Z0idburg> is that your fix?!
L250[20:37:16] <Z0idburg> ?
L251[20:37:53] <Izaya> Eventually it will be :D
L252[20:38:03] <Izaya> Bit more stylish than blue cloth tape, no?
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L254[20:38:18] <Doubiciou> lolilol
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L256[20:56:22] <Kodos> %tonkout
L257[20:56:23] <MichiBot> Consarn it! Kodos! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 3 hours and 32 minutes (By 1 hour, 48 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L258[20:56:25] <MichiBot> Kodos has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 0.33393
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L261[22:12:01] <Z0idburg> welp that half asleep cooking spree failed
L262[22:12:10] <Z0idburg> go to sleep hungry or order pizza and stay awake?
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L264[22:15:32] <Z0idburg> if I order a pizza now theres a chance ill only eat one sslice and go to bed
L265[22:15:38] <Z0idburg> and that one slice will take forever
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L269[22:27:39] <Z0idburg> thanks to all of those asshole idiots who want to raise minimum wage
L270[22:27:52] <Z0idburg> the US is going toward an even bigger economic crisis
L271[22:28:26] <Z0idburg> and most of the redemption centers will be closing now
L272[22:28:55] <Izaya> they're saying how they want to raise the minimum wage here
L273[22:29:02] <Izaya> given cost of living has increased
L274[22:29:15] <Z0idburg> well it was recently federally raised to $15
L275[22:29:23] <Izaya> but I feel that would most likely induce inflation
L276[22:29:31] <Izaya> they'd be better off raising NewStart
L277[22:29:36] <Izaya> given nobody can live on $70/week
L278[22:30:02] <Z0idburg> yeah see the thing is
L279[22:30:05] <The_Stargazer> I just realised
L280[22:30:11] <The_Stargazer> With my include and lib dirs...
L281[22:30:19] <The_Stargazer> I shouldn't even need to compile OpenSSL..
L282[22:30:25] <Z0idburg> when wage increases many other things don't
L283[22:30:26] <The_Stargazer> ..because if I pass them to luarocks...
L284[22:30:41] <The_Stargazer> ..it won't complain about missing headers!!!
L285[22:30:43] <Z0idburg> for exaple, my job, I make $15/hr, that hasn't changed in a long time
L286[22:30:46] <Izaya> while we're at it, discouraging underemployment would be good
L287[22:30:56] <Z0idburg> every time minimum wage increases, my wages don't
L288[22:31:02] <Izaya> the government changed the definition of employed here to working at least 1 hour a week
L289[22:31:26] <Izaya> so they can say "we've decreased unemployment!" while everyone is the working poor
L290[22:31:30] <The_Stargazer> I'm gonna set up a script to set LUA and LUA_DEV
L291[22:31:30] <Z0idburg> so now insted of being payed much more than minimum wage, people out there flipping burgers and taking meth are making as much as I do
L292[22:32:21] <Z0idburg> bottle redemption centers are closing all over because they can't afford to pay employees anymore
L293[22:32:39] <Z0idburg> do you know why bottle redemption centers were invented?
L294[22:33:23] <Z0idburg> the idea was "let's create a government program where we charge everyone a deposit for buying bottled drinks, etc which they get back if they return them, to reduce the ammount of littering
L295[22:33:31] <Z0idburg> because a long time ago here littering was REALLY bad
L296[22:33:46] <Z0idburg> so minimum wage goes up, centers close, littering will probably go back up
L297[22:34:08] <Z0idburg> and companies like clynk or whatever will form their own pseudo mini monoppolies
L298[22:34:14] <Z0idburg> of automated redemption
L299[22:34:25] <Z0idburg> which I think is subscription based I'm not sure
L300[22:34:48] <Z0idburg> and the problem with that is only people who care about recycling use those places
L301[22:35:32] <Z0idburg> there's no longer the people who go around dumpster diving for bottles and hunting bottles on the side of the street , mostly homeless to make a few pennies at the redemption centers
L302[22:35:36] <Z0idburg> that may sound bad but its good
L303[22:35:41] <Z0idburg> it gets rid of the litter, which was their goal
L304[22:36:33] <Z0idburg> yeah the fix is definitely not raise minimum wage
L305[22:36:52] <Z0idburg> the fix is to put effort into it and figure out how to reduce the cost of living
L306[22:36:55] <The_Stargazer> i don't understand any of this
L307[22:37:06] <The_Stargazer> just figured i'd say that
L308[22:37:15] <Z0idburg> understand what, your script?
L309[22:37:21] <The_Stargazer> no, your talk
L310[22:37:35] <Izaya> yeah raising minimum wage is not solving the problem it's applying somewhat of a fix to the solution
L311[22:37:36] <Z0idburg> I'm just bitching that the US is increasing minimum wages to $15 /hour
L312[22:37:43] <Izaya> s/solution/symptom/
L313[22:37:43] <MichiBot> <Izaya> yeah raising minimum wage is not solving the problem it's applying somewhat of a fix to the symptom
L314[22:38:02] <Z0idburg> there are still some states here that have a wage of like $7.50 an hour, imagine the significant ammount of impact it will make on their economies
L315[22:38:06] <Z0idburg> it will litteraly destroy them
L316[22:39:22] <The_Stargazer> okay so i wanna see if, with my include and lib dirs, i can just use `luarocks install luasec OPENSSL_DIR=C:\OpenSSL-Win64 INCLUDE=E:\include LIB=E:\lib`
L317[22:39:45] <Z0idburg> whatchya doin
L318[22:39:50] <The_Stargazer> okay so i wanna see if, with my include and lib dirs, i can just use `luarocks install luasec OPENSSL_DIR=C:\OpenSSL-Win64 INCLUDE=E:\Programming\C\include LIB=E:\lib` [Edited]
L319[22:39:59] <The_Stargazer> okay so i wanna see if, with my include and lib dirs, i can just use `luarocks install luasec OPENSSL_DIR=C:\OpenSSL-Win64 INCLUDE=E:\Programming\C\include LIB=E:\Programming\C\lib` [Edited]
L320[22:40:02] <The_Stargazer> trying to install luasec
L321[22:40:06] <Z0idburg> gross
L322[22:40:11] <The_Stargazer> what?
L323[22:40:15] <Z0idburg> libssl
L324[22:40:20] <The_Stargazer> what
L325[22:40:30] <Z0idburg> I wouldn't trust them
L326[22:40:32] <The_Stargazer> does it work on windows
L327[22:40:36] <Z0idburg> they don't know shit about security ?
L328[22:40:39] <The_Stargazer> well then
L329[22:40:46] <The_Stargazer> i'm all ears for another solution
L330[22:41:08] <Z0idburg> what are you trying to do? Because if you just want SSL compatible sockets or something then there isn't much
L331[22:41:21] <Z0idburg> but if you just want encryption don't bother with SSL
L332[22:41:28] <The_Stargazer> I ~~want~~ need LuaSEC's HTTPS functionality
L333[22:41:33] <Z0idburg> ok then
L334[22:41:36] <Z0idburg> so you don't have many options
L335[22:41:43] <Z0idburg> it's still an eww
L336[22:41:44] <Z0idburg> lol
L337[22:41:49] <The_Stargazer> eh
L338[22:42:02] <The_Stargazer> okay so all i need now
L339[22:42:08] <The_Stargazer> is the microsoft cl.exe
L340[22:42:08] <Z0idburg> is a miracle
L341[22:42:26] <The_Stargazer> i don't need the win10sdk, cl.exe doesn't find it anyway
L342[22:42:46] <Z0idburg> isn't that M$'s horrible linker?
L343[22:42:55] <The_Stargazer> It's used by luarocks
L344[22:42:55] <The_Stargazer> so
L345[22:42:57] <The_Stargazer> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L346[22:43:08] <The_Stargazer> If I give it mingw-gcc to use
L347[22:43:17] <The_Stargazer> it tries to use cl.exe's args with gcc
L348[22:43:23] <Z0idburg> WAT
L349[22:43:33] <The_Stargazer> literally
L350[22:43:37] <The_Stargazer> passes like
L351[22:43:43] <The_Stargazer> /MD and /O2 to gcc
L352[22:43:48] <Z0idburg> hmm
L353[22:43:56] <The_Stargazer> it assumes cl.exe
L354[22:44:15] <Z0idburg> silly microsoft, toy operating systems are for kids
L355[22:44:31] <The_Stargazer> i would use linux
L356[22:44:32] <The_Stargazer> but
L357[22:44:34] <The_Stargazer> two things
L358[22:44:51] <Z0idburg> Izaya would appreciate it if you use a BeOS derivative or clone.
L359[22:44:57] <Izaya> install haiku
L360[22:44:57] <The_Stargazer> 1) the computer I use at home is a windows 10 UEFI (dear god) laptop, and thus.. no boot menu
L361[22:45:01] <Z0idburg> like that
L362[22:45:03] <The_Stargazer> 2) the internet cafe PCs use windows 7
L363[22:45:10] <Izaya> sure it has a boot menu
L364[22:45:14] <Z0idburg> You know
L365[22:45:19] <Izaya> you just have to convince it to open it
L366[22:45:20] <The_Stargazer> I don't have internet at home, so I use an internet cafe.
L367[22:45:22] <Z0idburg> I'm quite tired of people talking about Windows 7
L368[22:45:25] <The_Stargazer> It's got a boot menu
L369[22:45:28] <The_Stargazer> But
L370[22:45:34] <The_Stargazer> I can't hit a key during startup
L371[22:45:35] <Z0idburg> It's been reaching EOL for how long now
L372[22:45:40] <Z0idburg> its time is almost uop
L373[22:45:41] <The_Stargazer> Gotta access it via Win 10
L374[22:45:48] <Izaya> okay no problem?
L375[22:45:52] <Z0idburg> Next January
L376[22:45:58] <Izaya> install linux with GRUB to give you a real menu
L377[22:46:08] <Z0idburg> next january Windows 7 will literally be declared shutdown
L378[22:46:15] <Izaya> S3: it's that, Windows 8, or instability, I can see why people are still using it
L379[22:46:30] <Z0idburg> meh
L380[22:46:39] <Z0idburg> I found Windows 7 to have the same problem
L381[22:46:53] <Z0idburg> thing is it's pretty much the same damn kernel
L382[22:47:06] <Z0idburg> so it's not -that- different
L383[22:47:08] <Izaya> I've found Windows 10 is more prone to spontaneously offing itself
L384[22:47:14] <Izaya> I presume because it has more moving parts
L385[22:47:16] <Z0idburg> yes
L386[22:47:30] <Z0idburg> it doesn't help that windows 10 has an extremely active development cycle atm
L387[22:48:58] <AmandaC> One day I'll remember to put in / turn on flat bedrock before I start my main save
L388[22:49:07] <AmandaC> Today is not that day
L389[22:49:39] <AmandaC> %remindme 6h INSTALL AND ENABLE FLAT BEDROCK BEFORE YOU EXPLORE MORE!
L390[22:49:41] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "INSTALL AND ENABLE FLAT BEDROCK BEFORE YOU EXPLORE MORE!" at 05/26/2019 04:49:40 AM
L391[22:50:34] <AmandaC> I wonder if there's tools to Regen all chunks not in a radius from a point
L392[22:50:47] <AmandaC> Oh well, sleep time. Night nerds
L393[22:51:03] * AmandaC curls up around Temia, dozes
L394[22:52:18] <The_Stargazer> ..
L395[22:52:26] <The_Stargazer> luasec doesn't define WAITFD_R and WAITFD_W..
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L397[22:52:32] <The_Stargazer> And I can't define them manually.
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L400[22:55:38] <Z0idburg> AmandaC: I love nonflat bedrock
L401[22:55:58] <Z0idburg> I dunno if it changed but it always used to be at level 6 every time, I'd get nice fancy randomly checkered floors
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L403[22:58:55] <Z0idburg> Izaya the one thing that I absolutely do appreciate about the $15 minimum wage however
L404[22:59:12] <Z0idburg> is that it is also going to require tipped workers to make minimum wage
L405[22:59:17] <Z0idburg> which is how it should have been
L406[22:59:29] <Z0idburg> whoever thought it was okay to pay waitresses and such $5/hr
L407[22:59:32] <Z0idburg> was an idiot
L408[22:59:40] <Z0idburg> a tip is a tip on top of your summarized wages wtf
L409[22:59:43] <Z0idburg> not part of your pay
L410[23:00:15] <Z0idburg> but again this should have been the case without the $15/hr
L411[23:00:38] <Z0idburg> Personally I think minimum wage should be $1
L412[23:00:53] <Z0idburg> that way a minimum wage worker will be paid 1 unit
L413[23:00:58] <Z0idburg> easy to do math with
L414[23:01:28] <Z0idburg> all payments / counts under $1 at this point become fractions of minimum wage
L415[23:02:09] <Z0idburg> the problem is the change of wages is what really hurts and the non-changes of everything left behind
L416[23:04:49] <The_Stargazer> Hurray! it don't complain about missing includes! ! !
L417[23:04:50] <The_Stargazer> Now..
L418[23:04:56] <Z0idburg> oh?
L419[23:05:00] <The_Stargazer> Does anyone here know how to pass a library dir to cl.exe?
L420[23:05:14] <The_Stargazer> It complains about libssl32MD.lib, but I've got it.
L421[23:05:20] <The_Stargazer> I just need to tell it where to look.
L422[23:05:21] <Z0idburg> cant use /I ?
L423[23:05:29] <Z0idburg> like lds -I
L424[23:05:30] <The_Stargazer> ill try
L425[23:05:41] <The_Stargazer> /L or /l?
L426[23:05:42] <Z0idburg> what does /? say anyways
L427[23:05:44] <The_Stargazer> lower or uppercase
L428[23:05:45] <Z0idburg> uh
L429[23:05:57] <Z0idburg> heh who knows
L430[23:07:15] <The_Stargazer> Hmm
L431[23:07:15] <Z0idburg> so I'm not going to tell you to change over
L432[23:07:23] <The_Stargazer> cl.exe /? doesn't mention -I
L433[23:07:24] <Z0idburg> but it probably would have been much easier to use WSL
L434[23:07:38] <The_Stargazer> (i, not l)
L435[23:07:43] <The_Stargazer> Uhh
L436[23:07:49] <The_Stargazer> Win 7 doesn't have WSL
L437[23:07:53] <Z0idburg> oh
L438[23:07:58] <Z0idburg> I thought this was windows 10 lol
L439[23:08:00] <The_Stargazer> And if I compile luasec on linux, the binaries won't work for windows.
L440[23:08:18] <Z0idburg> well they would in WSL ?
L441[23:08:44] <Z0idburg> or cygwin
L442[23:08:58] <Z0idburg> sorta
L443[23:09:13] <Z0idburg> cygwin is one of those scary things
L444[23:13:41] <The_Stargazer> aha
L445[23:13:49] <The_Stargazer> I can set the LIB environment variable
L446[23:16:08] <The_Stargazer> Okay, so I don't have the Windows 10 SDK C++ libs.
L447[23:16:14] <The_Stargazer> Easy fix: put them in my lib dir.
L448[23:16:28] <Corded> * <Z0idburg> put them in the recycle bin
L449[23:16:45] <Z0idburg> They belong there don't they?
L450[23:17:49] <The_Stargazer> ?
L451[23:26:33] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L452[23:26:38] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 2 hours, 30 minutes and 10 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.0025 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L453[23:26:38] <MichiBot> Fudge! CompanionCube! You beat Kodos's previous record of <0 (By 2 hours, 30 minutes and 10 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L454[23:32:11] <The_Stargazer> i give up on luasec
L455[23:32:22] <The_Stargazer> can't be bothered to compile it
L456[23:32:26] <The_Stargazer> this is why i stick to binaries
L457[23:33:21] <CompanionCube> compiling stuff on windows is a nice route to pain and sadness
L458[23:34:11] <The_Stargazer> indeed
L459[23:45:15] <Lizzy> s/compiling stuff on//
L460[23:45:15] <MichiBot> <CompanionCube> windows is a nice route to pain and sadness
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