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<The_Stargazer> oh ffs
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<The_Stargazer> `fatal error LNK1112:
module machine type 'x64' conflicts with target machine type
'x86'`
L4[01:37:08]
<The_Stargazer> the hell does this
mean
L5[01:37:16]
<The_Stargazer> does it mean i can't
compile openssl 32bit on 64bit os
L6[01:45:10] <Izaya> no it means you're
trying to link a 64-bit library for a 32-bit object
L7[01:45:11] <Izaya> probably
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<Forecaster>
wellp, I'm no longer stuck on the gnosis
L14[04:08:12]
<Forecaster>
the solution was "shoot it, get killed and respawn"
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<Forecaster>
gluing a piece back onto my glasses with superglue then putting
them on right away = sharp pain in eye
L19[04:30:22]
<Forecaster>
#thingsIlearnedtoday
L20[04:37:43]
<Kodos>
%tonk
L21[04:37:46] <MichiBot> Willikers! Kodos!
You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 4 hours, 22 minutes and
52 seconds (By 1 hour, 57 minutes and 29 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L22[04:37:47] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record
is 6 hours, 20 minutes and 21 seconds! Kodos also gained 0.0098
(0.00196 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L23[04:43:35]
<Forecaster>
%sip random
L24[04:43:37] <MichiBot> You drink a runny
amethyst potion (New!). Forecaster recovers some mana.
L25[04:43:55] <Corded> * <Forecaster>
casts "Waste mana"
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potion she gave her yesterday
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L35[06:08:16] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L37[06:08:33] <AmandaC> Do you have any
idea how hard it is to concoct potions without thumbs!?
L38[06:27:18] <AmandaC> They don't even
make sterile gloves for cats! I have to make due with human
ones!
L39[06:39:51] <Vexatos> nitrile gloves are
soo expensive :I
L40[06:40:06] <Vexatos> source: am
professional potion concocter
L41[06:47:53] *
Lizzy builds some bionic claws for AmandaC to help her brew
potions
L42[07:10:11] *
AmandaC meows happily at Lizzy
L43[07:14:03] <Skye> %sip random
L44[07:14:03] <MichiBot> You drink a
resonating strawberry potion (New!). Skye feels like one particular
wasp has it out for them suddenly.
L45[07:49:24]
<Z0idburg>
CompanionCube probably because big companies actually hinder
innovation
L46[07:49:29]
<Z0idburg>
the one thing they have is money to spend
L47[07:49:40]
<Z0idburg>
that != innovation
L48[07:50:08]
<Z0idburg>
There needs to be a balance
L49[07:50:30]
<Z0idburg>
Might be worth it to nerf patents
L50[09:47:13] <AmandaC> %8ball start
again?
L51[09:47:13] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Without a
doubt
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<Shinon>
I've been toying around this idea i have, using computronic
speakers to play opus audio
L63[12:01:24] <Vexatos> You'd be like the
fourth person ever to use Computronics's sound card
L64[12:01:49] <Vexatos> well, assuming you
want to use that and not the tape drive
L65[12:02:00]
<Shinon>
lol
L66[12:02:49]
<Z0idburg>
Vexatos you mean you don't use the sound card to transmit
FSK?
L67[12:03:00]
<Z0idburg>
so you can transfer files to other players
L68[12:03:25] <Vexatos> The sound card
works on frequencies instead of wave data so you'd have to
implement FT in lua
L69[12:03:37]
<Forecaster>
%tonkout
L70[12:03:38] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
Forecaster! You beat Kodos's previous record of 6 hours, 20 minutes
and 21 seconds (By 1 hour, 5 minutes and 30 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
L71[12:03:39] <MichiBot> Forecaster has
stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.007 tonk
points! plus 0.006 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to
50% because stealing) Current score: 0.52408
L72[12:04:13]
<Forecaster>
woo, back in first place
L73[12:05:53]
<Z0idburg>
WOAH
L74[12:06:00]
<Z0idburg>
the computronics sound card supports AM
L75[12:06:13]
<Z0idburg>
through ADSR envelopes
L76[12:06:26] <Vexatos> @Z0idburg it also
supports AM
L77[12:06:27] <Vexatos> through
L78[12:06:28] <Vexatos> you know
L79[12:06:46]
<Z0idburg>
doAM?
L80[12:06:50]
<Z0idburg>
lol
L81[12:06:51]
<Shinon>
what is AM?
L82[12:06:54]
<Z0idburg>
woops
L83[12:06:58]
<Z0idburg>
Amplitude modulation
L84[12:07:03]
<Shinon>
Ah
L85[12:07:12]
<Z0idburg>
Please tell me you know what that is
L86[12:07:18] <Vexatos> setAM
L87[12:07:22] <Vexatos> I:
L88[12:07:29]
<Shinon>
Kinda
L89[12:07:46]
<Z0idburg>
never listened to AM signals in the car?
L90[12:07:47] <Vexatos> it also has
setFM
L91[12:08:00] <Vexatos> @Z0idburg did you
even ever use it >_<
L92[12:08:00]
<Z0idburg>
hmm
L93[12:08:02]
<Z0idburg>
FM is nice
L94[12:08:10]
<Z0idburg>
no I'm reading the docs
L95[12:08:10]
<Shinon> AM
doesnt really exist now a days.
L96[12:08:23]
<Shinon>
...wait it has FM?
L97[12:08:28]
<Z0idburg>
there's a lot more AM stations here than there is FM stations
L98[12:08:33]
<Z0idburg>
for commercial radio
L99[12:08:42]
<Shinon>
There is litterally no AM stations in my country
L100[12:08:42]
<Z0idburg>
but people only listen to FM because they forget AM exists
L101[12:08:52]
<Z0idburg>
heh
L102[12:08:54]
<Z0idburg>
why is that
L104[12:09:06]
<Z0idburg>
AM is a lot lower bandwidth
L105[12:09:18] <Vexatos> exactly, FM can
transmit higher quality sound
L106[12:09:22]
<Z0idburg>
and with SSB its even lower
L107[12:10:03]
<Z0idburg>
That's only true due to the predicted nature of how noise
works
L108[12:10:30] <Vexatos> but it is true
either way
L109[12:10:37]
<Z0idburg>
in reality in an ideal world AM and FM are no better other than the
fact that FM is worse in the fact that it requires more
bandwidth
L110[12:10:47] <Vexatos> which is
irrelevant nowadays
L111[12:11:21] <Vexatos> radio channels
are always more than 0.4MHz apart
L112[12:11:38]
<Shinon> how
much bytes can tape data store?
L113[12:11:39] <Vexatos> and around the
100MHz area
L114[12:11:44]
<Z0idburg>
it is relevant when you realize how much bandwidth FM stations
waste. My radio in my car I have to spin the wheel several times to
escape the station and go to the next one unless I punch in the
station manually
L115[12:12:07] <Vexatos> @Shinon which
version of minecraft?
L116[12:12:13]
<Shinon>
assuming 1.12.2
L117[12:12:20]
<Z0idburg>
300 Khz is actually a massive ammount of waste bandwidth.
L118[12:12:30] <Vexatos> 6000 bytes per
second
L119[12:12:36] <Vexatos> the length of a
tape is in its tooltip
L120[12:12:42]
<Shinon>
gotcha
L121[12:12:45]
<Z0idburg>
an AM station can use as little as a few Khz including the space
between it and another station
L122[12:12:55] <Vexatos> also
tape.getSize() ofc
L123[12:13:11] <Vexatos> @Z0idburg but
there is no need to worry about it
L124[12:13:16] <Vexatos> there aren't that
many radio stations
L125[12:13:18] <Vexatos> so why
bother
L126[12:13:28]
<Z0idburg>
also, an AM station can decide to cut half of its entire bandwidth
for twice the distance on the same ammount of power
L127[12:13:34]
<Z0idburg>
its called single sideband transmission
L128[12:13:35] <Vexatos> but why
bother?
L129[12:14:07]
<Shinon>
...i just noticed that I can fit 32kbps opus data on a 5 minute
disk. the track is 3 minutes long.
L130[12:14:11]
<Shinon>
...i just noticed that I can fit 32kbps opus data on a 5 minute
disk the track is 3 minutes long. [Edited]
L131[12:14:13]
<Z0idburg>
Because I dunno about where you live but there's very little space
here for stations
L132[12:14:33]
<Z0idburg>
it's only 20.8Mhz
L133[12:14:34]
<Z0idburg>
for FM
L134[12:14:42] <Vexatos> stations over
here are between 80 and 110 MHz
L135[12:14:53]
<Z0idburg>
so about the same
L136[12:15:03]
<Z0idburg>
its 87 to 108 here ~
L137[12:15:05] <Vexatos> and there is
still plenty of space left
L138[12:15:13]
<Z0idburg>
108 is where the aircraft band comes in
L139[12:15:42]
<Shinon> Vex
there is no way to individually write samples?
L140[12:16:10] <Vexatos> in a sound card?
heck no
L141[12:16:15] <Vexatos> it's a sound card
for that reason
L142[12:16:21] <Vexatos> if you want to
write samples, the tape drive exists
L143[12:16:27] <Vexatos> you can write
dfpwm samples there
L144[12:16:34]
<TheRealBob>
tapes use DFPWM
L145[12:16:39]
<Shinon>
Eurgh
L146[12:16:42]
<Shinon>
yeah.
L147[12:16:49] <Vexatos> that's the whole
reason I made the sound card
L148[12:17:02] <Vexatos> to have an audio
system not based on normal sample data
L149[12:17:15] <Vexatos> it acts more like
a real sound card
L150[12:17:39] <Vexatos> from back when
you couldn't just store a 25MB audio file
L151[12:19:43]
<Z0idburg>
did you know vex
L152[12:19:53]
<Z0idburg>
it's dead simple to make your own high speed ADC
L153[12:19:58]
<Z0idburg>
er sorry
L154[12:19:59]
<Z0idburg>
DAC
L155[12:22:01] <Vexatos> hm?
L157[12:26:08]
<Z0idburg> 8
bit DAC
L158[12:27:25]
<Z0idburg>
yes its inverted but that's a very easy fix
L159[12:27:42]
<Z0idburg> I
like inverted inputs because it doesnt matter to me ?
L160[12:28:08]
<Z0idburg>
inverted on the outputs I mean
L161[12:29:34]
<Z0idburg>
have you seen this?
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L164[12:32:16] <Vexatos> ...yes?
L165[12:32:29] <Vexatos> Fingercomp is one
of the three people that used the sound card in the past :^)
L166[12:32:40]
<Z0idburg>
but anyways, I realized it the other day since that op amp
configuration is an adder
L167[12:32:42]
<Z0idburg> I
was like, OH
L168[12:32:46]
<Z0idburg> I
can use that to make a DAC
L169[12:33:04]
<Z0idburg>
so when I make my VGA video output I will just use 3 op amps
then
L170[12:33:07]
<Z0idburg>
for R G B
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<Z0idburg>
it lets you make really complex ones too
L173[12:36:48]
<Forecaster>
"Meowtroidvania Gato Roboto pounces into stores next
week"
L174[12:36:49]
<Z0idburg>
the DAC design
L175[12:37:00]
<Z0idburg>
?
L177[12:37:13]
<Forecaster>
This looks like a gameboy game
L178[12:38:56]
<Z0idburg>
isnt it?
L179[12:39:08]
<Forecaster>
no
L180[12:39:15]
<Z0idburg>
how many colors does it have
L181[12:39:46]
<Forecaster>
what's a color?
L182[12:39:49]
<Z0idburg> I
can so far see 3
L183[12:39:53]
<Z0idburg>
gameboys had 4
L185[12:40:20] <MichiBot>
Gato Roboto -
Release Date Trailer | length:
1m 2s | Likes:
1,483 Dislikes:
13 Views:
32,391 | by
DevolverDigital | Published On 23/5/2019
L186[12:41:12]
<Z0idburg>
runs too smooth to be a gameboy game
L187[12:41:17]
<Z0idburg>
gameboys didnt play like that
L188[12:41:35]
<Forecaster>
cause it's not a gameboy game...
L189[13:04:09] <Temia> Not even remotely
Gameboy-related.
L190[13:04:13]
<Z0idburg>
it should be
L191[13:04:24]
<Z0idburg> I
want it to be
L192[13:04:33] <Temia> Well it isn't
L193[13:04:35]
<Z0idburg> I
need it to be
L194[13:04:43]
<Z0idburg>
MAKE IT NAU
L195[13:04:45] <Temia> This is closer to a
monochrome MacOS look
L196[13:05:08]
<Z0idburg> I
dunno my mac was green iirc
L197[13:05:20]
<Z0idburg>
if apple II counts as a mac
L198[13:05:23]
<Z0idburg>
lolol
L199[13:05:33] <Temia> :I
L200[13:05:39]
<Z0idburg> I
actually remember somebody who had a monochrome mac laptop
actually..
L201[13:05:44]
<Z0idburg> I
wonder what it was..
L202[13:09:23]
<Z0idburg>
it looked kinda like this
L204[13:09:29]
<Z0idburg>
as I remember
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<Forecaster>
excellent...
L208[15:17:56]
<Forecaster>
my art site is sort-of-broken
L209[15:18:08]
<Forecaster>
the api returns a 500 error
L210[15:18:23]
<Forecaster>
but when I turn on display_errors there's just an empty
page...
L211[15:35:37]
<Forecaster>
%tonk
L212[15:35:39] <MichiBot> Heckgosh!
Forecaster! You beat your own previous record of <0 (By 3 hours
and 32 minutes)! I hope you're happy!
L213[15:35:40] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new
record is 3 hours and 32 minutes! No points gained for stealing
from yourself. (Lost out on 0.00353 x 1 = 0.00353)
L214[15:36:11]
<Funglee22>
Does anyone else have an issue connecting to the wiki?
L215[15:36:46]
<Forecaster>
nope
L216[15:38:07]
<Funglee22>
Well rip my connection I guess
L217[15:39:46] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> grumbles
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L226[17:54:35] <AmandaC> %calc 4 * 9 *
5
L227[17:54:40] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
180
L228[17:54:50] <AmandaC> damn
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<Z0idburg>
guess what that is
L238[20:27:24] <Izaya> A big fibre or
phone cable
L239[20:27:27] <Izaya> One of the
two
L240[20:27:41] <Izaya> For under the
sea
L241[20:28:02] <Temia> A cross-section of
my collagen.
L242[20:28:24] <Temia> (note: not a
serious answer)
L243[20:32:20] <Izaya> Hm
L244[20:32:43] <Izaya> When I royally fuck
up these fairings I might glue them back together and wrap
them
L245[20:32:51] <Izaya> Itasha bike
>:D
L246[20:34:12]
<Z0idburg>
It's an 1,800 twisted pair telephone cable from 1922
L247[20:34:44]
<Z0idburg>
must have been for a metropolis
L249[20:37:03]
<Z0idburg>
is that your fix?!
L250[20:37:16]
<Z0idburg>
?
L251[20:37:53] <Izaya> Eventually it will
be :D
L252[20:38:03] <Izaya> Bit more stylish
than blue cloth tape, no?
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L254[20:38:18] <Doubiciou> lolilol
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<Kodos>
%tonkout
L257[20:56:23] <MichiBot> Consarn it!
Kodos! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 3 hours and 32
minutes (By 1 hour, 48 minutes and 44 seconds)! I hope you're
happy!
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plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50%
because stealing) Current score: 0.33393
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L261[22:12:01]
<Z0idburg>
welp that half asleep cooking spree failed
L262[22:12:10]
<Z0idburg>
go to sleep hungry or order pizza and stay awake?
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<Z0idburg>
if I order a pizza now theres a chance ill only eat one sslice and
go to bed
L265[22:15:38]
<Z0idburg>
and that one slice will take forever
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L269[22:27:39]
<Z0idburg>
thanks to all of those asshole idiots who want to raise minimum
wage
L270[22:27:52]
<Z0idburg>
the US is going toward an even bigger economic crisis
L271[22:28:26]
<Z0idburg>
and most of the redemption centers will be closing now
L272[22:28:55] <Izaya> they're saying how
they want to raise the minimum wage here
L273[22:29:02] <Izaya> given cost of
living has increased
L274[22:29:15]
<Z0idburg>
well it was recently federally raised to $15
L275[22:29:23] <Izaya> but I feel that
would most likely induce inflation
L276[22:29:31] <Izaya> they'd be better
off raising NewStart
L277[22:29:36] <Izaya> given nobody can
live on $70/week
L278[22:30:02]
<Z0idburg>
yeah see the thing is
L279[22:30:05]
<The_Stargazer> I just realised
L280[22:30:11]
<The_Stargazer> With my include and lib
dirs...
L281[22:30:19]
<The_Stargazer> I shouldn't even need to
compile OpenSSL..
L282[22:30:25]
<Z0idburg>
when wage increases many other things don't
L283[22:30:26]
<The_Stargazer> ..because if I pass them to
luarocks...
L284[22:30:41]
<The_Stargazer> ..it won't complain about
missing headers!!!
L285[22:30:43]
<Z0idburg>
for exaple, my job, I make $15/hr, that hasn't changed in a long
time
L286[22:30:46] <Izaya> while we're at it,
discouraging underemployment would be good
L287[22:30:56]
<Z0idburg>
every time minimum wage increases, my wages don't
L288[22:31:02] <Izaya> the government
changed the definition of employed here to working at least 1 hour
a week
L289[22:31:26] <Izaya> so they can say
"we've decreased unemployment!" while everyone is the
working poor
L290[22:31:30]
<The_Stargazer> I'm gonna set up a script
to set LUA and LUA_DEV
L291[22:31:30]
<Z0idburg>
so now insted of being payed much more than minimum wage, people
out there flipping burgers and taking meth are making as much as I
do
L292[22:32:21]
<Z0idburg>
bottle redemption centers are closing all over because they can't
afford to pay employees anymore
L293[22:32:39]
<Z0idburg>
do you know why bottle redemption centers were invented?
L294[22:33:23]
<Z0idburg>
the idea was "let's create a government program where we
charge everyone a deposit for buying bottled drinks, etc which they
get back if they return them, to reduce the ammount of
littering
L295[22:33:31]
<Z0idburg>
because a long time ago here littering was REALLY bad
L296[22:33:46]
<Z0idburg>
so minimum wage goes up, centers close, littering will probably go
back up
L297[22:34:08]
<Z0idburg>
and companies like clynk or whatever will form their own pseudo
mini monoppolies
L298[22:34:14]
<Z0idburg>
of automated redemption
L299[22:34:25]
<Z0idburg>
which I think is subscription based I'm not sure
L300[22:34:48]
<Z0idburg>
and the problem with that is only people who care about recycling
use those places
L301[22:35:32]
<Z0idburg>
there's no longer the people who go around dumpster diving for
bottles and hunting bottles on the side of the street , mostly
homeless to make a few pennies at the redemption centers
L302[22:35:36]
<Z0idburg>
that may sound bad but its good
L303[22:35:41]
<Z0idburg>
it gets rid of the litter, which was their goal
L304[22:36:33]
<Z0idburg>
yeah the fix is definitely not raise minimum wage
L305[22:36:52]
<Z0idburg>
the fix is to put effort into it and figure out how to reduce the
cost of living
L306[22:36:55]
<The_Stargazer> i don't understand any of
this
L307[22:37:06]
<The_Stargazer> just figured i'd say
that
L308[22:37:15]
<Z0idburg>
understand what, your script?
L309[22:37:21]
<The_Stargazer> no, your talk
L310[22:37:35] <Izaya> yeah raising
minimum wage is not solving the problem it's applying somewhat of a
fix to the solution
L311[22:37:36]
<Z0idburg>
I'm just bitching that the US is increasing minimum wages to $15
/hour
L312[22:37:43] <Izaya>
s/solution/symptom/
L313[22:37:43] <MichiBot> <Izaya>
yeah raising minimum wage is not solving the problem it's applying
somewhat of a fix to the symptom
L314[22:38:02]
<Z0idburg>
there are still some states here that have a wage of like $7.50 an
hour, imagine the significant ammount of impact it will make on
their economies
L315[22:38:06]
<Z0idburg>
it will litteraly destroy them
L316[22:39:22]
<The_Stargazer> okay so i wanna see if,
with my include and lib dirs, i can just use `luarocks install
luasec OPENSSL_DIR=C:\OpenSSL-Win64 INCLUDE=E:\include
LIB=E:\lib`
L317[22:39:45]
<Z0idburg>
whatchya doin
L318[22:39:50]
<The_Stargazer> okay so i wanna see if,
with my include and lib dirs, i can just use `luarocks install
luasec OPENSSL_DIR=C:\OpenSSL-Win64
INCLUDE=E:\Programming\C\include LIB=E:\lib` [Edited]
L319[22:39:59]
<The_Stargazer> okay so i wanna see if,
with my include and lib dirs, i can just use `luarocks install
luasec OPENSSL_DIR=C:\OpenSSL-Win64
INCLUDE=E:\Programming\C\include LIB=E:\Programming\C\lib`
[Edited]
L320[22:40:02]
<The_Stargazer> trying to install
luasec
L321[22:40:06]
<Z0idburg>
gross
L322[22:40:11]
<The_Stargazer> what?
L323[22:40:15]
<Z0idburg>
libssl
L324[22:40:20]
<The_Stargazer> what
L325[22:40:30]
<Z0idburg> I
wouldn't trust them
L326[22:40:32]
<The_Stargazer> does it work on
windows
L327[22:40:36]
<Z0idburg>
they don't know shit about security ?
L328[22:40:39]
<The_Stargazer> well then
L329[22:40:46]
<The_Stargazer> i'm all ears for another
solution
L330[22:41:08]
<Z0idburg>
what are you trying to do? Because if you just want SSL compatible
sockets or something then there isn't much
L331[22:41:21]
<Z0idburg>
but if you just want encryption don't bother with SSL
L332[22:41:28]
<The_Stargazer> I ~~want~~ need LuaSEC's
HTTPS functionality
L333[22:41:33]
<Z0idburg>
ok then
L334[22:41:36]
<Z0idburg>
so you don't have many options
L335[22:41:43]
<Z0idburg>
it's still an eww
L336[22:41:44]
<Z0idburg>
lol
L337[22:41:49]
<The_Stargazer> eh
L338[22:42:02]
<The_Stargazer> okay so all i need
now
L339[22:42:08]
<The_Stargazer> is the microsoft
cl.exe
L340[22:42:08]
<Z0idburg>
is a miracle
L341[22:42:26]
<The_Stargazer> i don't need the win10sdk,
cl.exe doesn't find it anyway
L342[22:42:46]
<Z0idburg>
isn't that M$'s horrible linker?
L343[22:42:55]
<The_Stargazer> It's used by luarocks
L344[22:42:55]
<The_Stargazer> so
L345[22:42:57]
<The_Stargazer> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L346[22:43:08]
<The_Stargazer> If I give it mingw-gcc to
use
L347[22:43:17]
<The_Stargazer> it tries to use cl.exe's
args with gcc
L348[22:43:23]
<Z0idburg>
WAT
L349[22:43:33]
<The_Stargazer> literally
L350[22:43:37]
<The_Stargazer> passes like
L351[22:43:43]
<The_Stargazer> /MD and /O2 to gcc
L352[22:43:48]
<Z0idburg>
hmm
L353[22:43:56]
<The_Stargazer> it assumes cl.exe
L354[22:44:15]
<Z0idburg>
silly microsoft, toy operating systems are for kids
L355[22:44:31]
<The_Stargazer> i would use linux
L356[22:44:32]
<The_Stargazer> but
L357[22:44:34]
<The_Stargazer> two things
L358[22:44:51]
<Z0idburg>
Izaya would appreciate it if you use a BeOS derivative or
clone.
L359[22:44:57] <Izaya> install haiku
L360[22:44:57]
<The_Stargazer> 1) the computer I use at
home is a windows 10 UEFI (dear god) laptop, and thus.. no boot
menu
L361[22:45:01]
<Z0idburg>
like that
L362[22:45:03]
<The_Stargazer> 2) the internet cafe PCs
use windows 7
L363[22:45:10] <Izaya> sure it has a boot
menu
L364[22:45:14]
<Z0idburg>
You know
L365[22:45:19] <Izaya> you just have to
convince it to open it
L366[22:45:20]
<The_Stargazer> I don't have internet at
home, so I use an internet cafe.
L367[22:45:22]
<Z0idburg>
I'm quite tired of people talking about Windows 7
L368[22:45:25]
<The_Stargazer> It's got a boot menu
L369[22:45:28]
<The_Stargazer> But
L370[22:45:34]
<The_Stargazer> I can't hit a key during
startup
L371[22:45:35]
<Z0idburg>
It's been reaching EOL for how long now
L372[22:45:40]
<Z0idburg>
its time is almost uop
L373[22:45:41]
<The_Stargazer> Gotta access it via Win
10
L374[22:45:48] <Izaya> okay no
problem?
L375[22:45:52]
<Z0idburg>
Next January
L376[22:45:58] <Izaya> install linux with
GRUB to give you a real menu
L377[22:46:08]
<Z0idburg>
next january Windows 7 will literally be declared shutdown
L378[22:46:15] <Izaya> S3: it's that,
Windows 8, or instability, I can see why people are still using
it
L379[22:46:30]
<Z0idburg>
meh
L380[22:46:39]
<Z0idburg> I
found Windows 7 to have the same problem
L381[22:46:53]
<Z0idburg>
thing is it's pretty much the same damn kernel
L382[22:47:06]
<Z0idburg>
so it's not -that- different
L383[22:47:08] <Izaya> I've found Windows
10 is more prone to spontaneously offing itself
L384[22:47:14] <Izaya> I presume because
it has more moving parts
L385[22:47:16]
<Z0idburg>
yes
L386[22:47:30]
<Z0idburg>
it doesn't help that windows 10 has an extremely active development
cycle atm
L387[22:48:58] <AmandaC> One day I'll
remember to put in / turn on flat bedrock before I start my main
save
L388[22:49:07] <AmandaC> Today is not that
day
L389[22:49:39] <AmandaC> %remindme 6h
INSTALL AND ENABLE FLAT BEDROCK BEFORE YOU EXPLORE MORE!
L390[22:49:41] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about "INSTALL AND ENABLE FLAT BEDROCK BEFORE YOU EXPLORE
MORE!" at 05/26/2019 04:49:40 AM
L391[22:50:34] <AmandaC> I wonder if
there's tools to Regen all chunks not in a radius from a
point
L392[22:50:47] <AmandaC> Oh well, sleep
time. Night nerds
L393[22:51:03] *
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L394[22:52:18]
<The_Stargazer> ..
L395[22:52:26]
<The_Stargazer> luasec doesn't define
WAITFD_R and WAITFD_W..
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<The_Stargazer> And I can't define them
manually.
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<Z0idburg>
AmandaC: I love nonflat bedrock
L401[22:55:58]
<Z0idburg> I
dunno if it changed but it always used to be at level 6 every time,
I'd get nice fancy randomly checkered floors
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<Z0idburg>
Izaya the one thing that I absolutely do appreciate about the $15
minimum wage however
L404[22:59:12]
<Z0idburg>
is that it is also going to require tipped workers to make minimum
wage
L405[22:59:17]
<Z0idburg>
which is how it should have been
L406[22:59:29]
<Z0idburg>
whoever thought it was okay to pay waitresses and such $5/hr
L407[22:59:32]
<Z0idburg>
was an idiot
L408[22:59:40]
<Z0idburg> a
tip is a tip on top of your summarized wages wtf
L409[22:59:43]
<Z0idburg>
not part of your pay
L410[23:00:15]
<Z0idburg>
but again this should have been the case without the $15/hr
L411[23:00:38]
<Z0idburg>
Personally I think minimum wage should be $1
L412[23:00:53]
<Z0idburg>
that way a minimum wage worker will be paid 1 unit
L413[23:00:58]
<Z0idburg>
easy to do math with
L414[23:01:28]
<Z0idburg>
all payments / counts under $1 at this point become fractions of
minimum wage
L415[23:02:09]
<Z0idburg>
the problem is the change of wages is what really hurts and the
non-changes of everything left behind
L416[23:04:49]
<The_Stargazer> Hurray! it don't complain
about missing includes! ! !
L417[23:04:50]
<The_Stargazer> Now..
L418[23:04:56]
<Z0idburg>
oh?
L419[23:05:00]
<The_Stargazer> Does anyone here know how
to pass a library dir to cl.exe?
L420[23:05:14]
<The_Stargazer> It complains about
libssl32MD.lib, but I've got it.
L421[23:05:20]
<The_Stargazer> I just need to tell it
where to look.
L422[23:05:21]
<Z0idburg>
cant use /I ?
L423[23:05:29]
<Z0idburg>
like lds -I
L424[23:05:30]
<The_Stargazer> ill try
L425[23:05:41]
<The_Stargazer> /L or /l?
L426[23:05:42]
<Z0idburg>
what does /? say anyways
L427[23:05:44]
<The_Stargazer> lower or uppercase
L428[23:05:45]
<Z0idburg>
uh
L429[23:05:57]
<Z0idburg>
heh who knows
L430[23:07:15]
<The_Stargazer> Hmm
L431[23:07:15]
<Z0idburg>
so I'm not going to tell you to change over
L432[23:07:23]
<The_Stargazer> cl.exe /? doesn't mention
-I
L433[23:07:24]
<Z0idburg>
but it probably would have been much easier to use WSL
L434[23:07:38]
<The_Stargazer> (i, not l)
L435[23:07:43]
<The_Stargazer> Uhh
L436[23:07:49]
<The_Stargazer> Win 7 doesn't have
WSL
L437[23:07:53]
<Z0idburg>
oh
L438[23:07:58]
<Z0idburg> I
thought this was windows 10 lol
L439[23:08:00]
<The_Stargazer> And if I compile luasec on
linux, the binaries won't work for windows.
L440[23:08:18]
<Z0idburg>
well they would in WSL ?
L441[23:08:44]
<Z0idburg>
or cygwin
L442[23:08:58]
<Z0idburg>
sorta
L443[23:09:13]
<Z0idburg>
cygwin is one of those scary things
L444[23:13:41]
<The_Stargazer> aha
L445[23:13:49]
<The_Stargazer> I can set the LIB
environment variable
L446[23:16:08]
<The_Stargazer> Okay, so I don't have the
Windows 10 SDK C++ libs.
L447[23:16:14]
<The_Stargazer> Easy fix: put them in my
lib dir.
L448[23:16:28] <Corded> * <Z0idburg>
put them in the recycle bin
L449[23:16:45]
<Z0idburg>
They belong there don't they?
L450[23:17:49]
<The_Stargazer> ?
L451[23:26:33] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L452[23:26:38] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's
new record is 2 hours, 30 minutes and 10 seconds! CompanionCube
also gained 0.0025 tonk points for stealing the tonk.
L453[23:26:38] <MichiBot> Fudge!
CompanionCube! You beat Kodos's previous record of <0 (By 2
hours, 30 minutes and 10 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L454[23:32:11]
<The_Stargazer> i give up on luasec
L455[23:32:22]
<The_Stargazer> can't be bothered to
compile it
L456[23:32:26]
<The_Stargazer> this is why i stick to
binaries
L457[23:33:21] <CompanionCube> compiling
stuff on windows is a nice route to pain and sadness
L458[23:34:11]
<The_Stargazer> indeed
L459[23:45:15] <Lizzy> s/compiling stuff
on//
L460[23:45:15] <MichiBot>
<CompanionCube> windows is a nice route to pain and
sadness
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