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L2[00:46:19] <Rph> %tonk
L3[00:46:19] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Rph, you were not able to beat Mimiru's record of 1 hour, 27 minutes and 21 seconds this time.
L4[00:46:20] <MichiBot> 56 minutes and 36 seconds were wasted! Missed by 30 minutes and 45 seconds!
L5[00:46:28] <Rph> Agh
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L7[01:15:35] <Forecaster> Amanda: I see your screaming suns and I'll raise you suns that only sing Bieber songs
L8[01:16:00] <Forecaster> %s/sing/scream/
L9[01:16:01] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> Amanda: I see your screaming suns and I'll raise you suns that only scream Bieber songs
L10[01:22:43] <Izaya> %isup shadowkat.net
L11[01:22:44] <MichiBot> Izaya: https is UP
L12[01:22:45] <MichiBot> Izaya: http is UP
L13[01:22:55] <Izaya> huh, so just my phone can't talk to it
L14[01:22:56] <Izaya> neat
L15[01:34:26] <Forecaster> %potion
L16[01:34:26] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a freezing grass potion
L17[01:34:33] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L18[01:34:34] <MichiBot> Forecaster's shoes are now slightly too large.
L19[01:34:39] <Forecaster> aw
L20[01:43:02] <Mimiru> meh
L21[01:43:04] <Mimiru> %tonkout
L22[01:43:05] <MichiBot> Mimiru has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current score: 0.064
L23[01:43:31] <Forecaster> a stack of tonks
L24[01:44:28] <Mimiru> %inv add a stack of tonks
L25[01:44:29] * MichiBot summons 'a stack of tonks' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L26[01:53:50] <AmandaC> Temia: hello, yes, I'd like to return these sleeps? They didn't last nearly long enough.
L27[02:02:16] <Forecaster> but they're used now
L28[02:05:04] <AmandaC> Clearly they're defective if I barely got 4h out of them
L29[02:05:28] <Forecaster> do you have the receipt?
L30[02:11:47] <AmandaC> Ofc
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L32[02:32:01] <AmandaC> %8ball try sleep again?
L33[02:32:02] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Without a doubt
L34[02:32:15] <AmandaC> Sigh. Fiiinnneeee
L35[02:32:27] <AmandaC> Night again nerds
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L37[02:41:05] <Lizzian> %tonk
L38[02:41:06] <MichiBot> Waesucks! Lizzian! You beat Mimiru's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L39[02:41:07] <MichiBot> Lizzian's new record is 58 minutes and 1 second! 58 minutes and 1 second gained!
L40[02:41:14] <Lizzian> oh, yay
L41[02:41:25] <Mimiru> damn, lol.. guess I can go to bed now
L42[02:42:00] <Lizzian> yes, go to bed sleepy Mimiru. ?
L43[02:54:10] <Wattana Gaming> Almost totally this server exists lol. Been away setting up Manjaro KDE
L44[02:54:20] <Wattana Gaming> Almost totally forgot this server exists lol. Been away setting up Manjaro KDE [Edited]
L45[02:54:28] <Wattana Gaming> damn that typo :/
L46[03:04:57] <Forecaster> or does it
L47[03:05:08] <Forecaster> if you look into the #oc the #oc looks back at you
L48[03:12:45] <Wattana Gaming> Damn thats deep
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L51[03:43:21] <Lizzian> %tonk
L52[03:43:21] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Lizzian! You beat your own previous record of 58 minutes and 1 second! I hope you're happy!
L53[03:43:22] <MichiBot> Lizzian's new record is 1 hour, 2 minutes and 15 seconds! 4 minutes and 14 seconds gained!
L54[03:43:31] <Lizzian> mwahahah
L55[03:51:06] <Forecaster> aw
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L57[04:10:05] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L58[04:44:36] <Trainfan91> @gamax92 r u online?
L59[04:50:25] <Trainfan91> what does %tonk mean?
L60[04:54:30] <Lizzian> %tonk
L61[04:54:31] <MichiBot> Avada Kedavra! Lizzian! You beat your own previous record of 1 hour, 2 minutes and 15 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L62[04:54:32] <MichiBot> Lizzian's new record is 1 hour, 11 minutes and 9 seconds! 8 minutes and 54 seconds gained!
L63[04:59:57] <Trainfan91> %tonk
L64[04:59:57] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Trainfan91, you were not able to beat Lizzian's record of 1 hour, 11 minutes and 9 seconds this time.
L65[04:59:58] <MichiBot> 5 minutes and 26 seconds were wasted! Missed by 1 hour, 5 minutes and 43 seconds!
L66[04:59:58] <Trainfan91> %tonk
L67[05:00:04] <Trainfan91> %tonk
L68[05:00:18] <Lizzian> don't spam it
L69[05:00:25] <Trainfan91> srry
L70[05:00:52] <Lizzian> and the goal is to do the command at the right time and take the previous record holder's spot
L71[05:01:13] <Trainfan91> how long can it go?
L72[05:01:53] <Lizzian> i think we once got up to about a day and a half
L73[05:02:26] <Lizzian> but the current leader can do %tonkout to reset the counter back to zero and gain 0.001 points for every full hour they have
L74[05:03:01] <Trainfan91> ok, price is right rules
L75[05:03:08] <Trainfan91> i think, lol
L76[05:03:34] <Trainfan91> or rather press your luck rules
L77[05:03:49] <Trainfan91> lol im tonkered out
L78[05:04:05] <Forecaster> Highest non-glitch record is 3 weeks I think
L79[05:04:10] <Forecaster> from back when it only reset randomly
L80[05:04:30] <Trainfan91> O_o
L81[05:04:36] <Forecaster> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/view.php?chan=oc&log=2018-09-22.log#L15
L82[05:04:38] <Lizzian> ah, didn't realise we'd managed to get it that high
L83[05:05:14] <Lizzian> %leaderboard
L84[05:05:19] <Lizzian> %tonkleaderboard
L85[05:05:34] <Lizzian> there was a command to get the leaderboard.... can't remember it
L86[05:05:56] <Trainfan91> my brain is like https://media.giphy.com/media/oaPcDncoLfgjK/giphy.gif
L87[05:06:05] <Trainfan91> lol
L88[05:06:18] <Trainfan91> srry if u can't see it
L89[05:06:26] <Lizzian> I can see it
L90[05:06:42] <Forecaster> %tonkscore
L91[05:06:59] <Forecaster> %tonkleaders
L92[05:07:00] <MichiBot> Forecaster: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L93[05:07:29] <Lizzian> wait, did my Discord and IRC nicks get combined?
L94[05:07:54] <Lizzian> i saw it trainfan, you don't need to pm it to me again
L95[05:07:56] <Forecaster> probably
L96[05:08:05] <Forecaster> now what was the alias syntax for the dyncommands...
L97[05:09:34] <Forecaster> right %command%
L98[05:09:35] <Forecaster> okay
L99[05:09:51] <Forecaster> %addcommand tonkscore %tonkleaders%
L100[05:09:52] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Command Added
L101[05:09:55] <Forecaster> %tonkscore
L102[05:09:56] <MichiBot> Forecaster: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L103[05:10:22] <Forecaster> %addcommand tonkleaderboard %tonkleaders%
L104[05:10:22] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Command Added
L105[05:10:50] <Trainfan91> for something truely scary stare @ backside of a cd
L106[05:11:28] <Lizzian> a mirror serves the same purpose
L107[05:11:44] <Trainfan91> that's the joke
L108[05:11:46] <Trainfan91> lol
L109[05:12:03] <Trainfan91> also has anyone seen updog?
L110[05:12:35] <Forecaster> no
L111[05:13:04] <Forecaster> It never came to theaters
L112[05:13:28] <Lizzian> i'm guessing you were wanting someone to say "what is updog?" so then you could respond with "nothing, what about you?"
L113[05:13:38] <Forecaster> yep
L114[05:13:42] <Trainfan91> yeah.avi
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L116[05:14:50] <Trainfan91> do tonk points actually do anything?
L117[05:15:06] <stephan48> they exist
L118[05:15:47] <Trainfan91> can i exchange 4 bitcoin?
L119[05:16:04] <stephan48> can i rob you of 4 bitcoin?
L120[05:16:37] <Lizzian> nah, you can only use it in the OC store*
L121[05:16:37] <Lizzian> * store not yet ready
L122[05:17:00] <Bob> If it unlocks additional tier stuff, im in
L123[05:17:04] <stephan48> * but you may still pay. it will be treated as a donation
L124[05:18:58] <Trainfan91> now on a more programming-oriented note, midiplay.lua sounds different on linux than windows... help?
L125[05:19:33] <Bob> whut
L126[05:19:49] <Bob> it shouldn't really, depends on hte lua libraries but they arethe same
L127[05:19:53] <Bob> ingame it sholdn't even matter
L128[05:20:23] <Forecaster> talk about programming?! in #oc?! unheard of!
L129[05:20:38] <Trainfan91> well, it certainly outputs alot more transposed notes...
L130[05:20:47] <Trainfan91> on linux that is
L131[05:20:54] <Bob> OC is not a mod about programmling , i dont know what are you talking about
L132[05:21:13] <Bob> Drivers ?
L133[05:22:03] <Lizzian> %tell payonel ? (RE: https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/view?chan=oc&log=2019-02-19.log#L93 )
L134[05:22:04] <MichiBot> Lizzian: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
L135[05:25:30] <Lizzian> %tell payonel also that first video nearly killed my pc heh
L136[05:25:32] <MichiBot> Lizzian: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
L137[05:26:30] <Rph> %tonk
L138[05:26:31] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Rph, you were not able to beat Lizzian's record of 1 hour, 11 minutes and 9 seconds this time.
L139[05:26:32] <MichiBot> 26 minutes and 33 seconds were wasted! Missed by 44 minutes and 36 seconds!
L140[05:27:04] <Bob> @Z0idburg ?
L141[05:28:23] <Trainfan91> anyway, my platfom is ubuntu if that helps and i BELIEVE im running latest java
L142[05:28:39] <Trainfan91> as for drivers which ones?
L143[05:28:47] <Trainfan91> sound card?
L144[05:30:06] <Bob> I don't know how it can sound different in the frist place
L145[05:31:17] <Trainfan91> where do printscreens go on linux?
L146[05:31:37] <Trainfan91> nvm ill just google the printscreen thing
L147[05:32:16] <Forecaster> clipboard?
L148[05:32:23] <Bob> Print screen then paste
L149[05:32:53] <Bob> I use ShareX but im' on windows since i can't get Nvidia drivers work on linux for my GTX 650
L150[05:33:47] <Trainfan91> ALL THIS TEXT ISN'T HERE ON WINDOWS http://tinyurl.com/y4cqc8dm
L151[05:34:22] <Trainfan91> and it'll keep scrolling as long as the midi is playing
L152[05:35:09] <Trainfan91> @bob any ideas?
L153[05:35:53] <Bob> Youre using a different script
L154[05:36:00] <Bob> OC can't run differently depending on the OS
L155[05:36:03] <Bob> it runs of Java
L156[05:36:07] <Bob> that has a JVM so
L157[05:36:18] <Bob> i guess your script is kinda broken ?
L158[05:36:52] <Trainfan91> it's not mine though, @gamax92 is at fault
L159[05:37:27] <Trainfan91> not that i'm saying he's bad or anything...
L160[05:37:59] <Trainfan91> if it helps, im also using multimc
L161[05:39:40] <Bob> i don't think so
L162[05:40:17] <stephan48> no it won't help. its good throu
L163[05:41:43] <Bob> @Trainfan91 can i have the script or see it ?
L164[05:42:31] <dequbed> stephan48: A Solr with 512MB Heap will start to choke if you try to throw a few hundred Megabytes of log at it at once but I think part of that limit is that I'm not very efficient with batch inserting and I'm not giving Solr enough fds.
L165[05:42:45] <stephan48> ah
L166[05:43:39] <stephan48> nice :D
L167[05:43:55] <dequbed> hindsight is using about 4MB of RAM and being quite bored by the looks of it.
L168[05:44:22] <dequbed> Which is about two orders of magnitude less than Flume would use.
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L170[05:46:42] <Trainfan91> https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/tree/7985f2b8649abdb7f3fb02c25cb7349e0b97f10a/third_party/gamax92/midi-original
L171[05:46:58] <Trainfan91> @Bob
L172[05:47:08] <stephan48> i am still working on the CA server. when thats finished i wanna tackle log stuff
L173[05:47:15] <stephan48> and ansible for central management
L174[05:47:46] <Corded> * <Lizzian> is contemplating if she wants to get a phone upgrade
L175[05:49:05] <dequbed> stephan48: What are you using for CA management?
L176[05:49:42] <stephan48> currently writing an SCEP server in C. then every client gets sscep or another client for requesting certs from the internal CA.
L177[05:49:56] <stephan48> the internal CA will authenticate clients against LDAP.
L178[05:50:29] <dequbed> >authenticate >LDAP. I don't envy you :p
L179[05:50:39] <stephan48> LDAP is nice.
L180[05:50:51] <stephan48> i am thinking about adding kerberos into the mix.
L181[05:50:59] <dequbed> LDAP *is* nice. I just really don't want to use it for authentication ;)
L182[05:51:17] <stephan48> i am still looking and playing around.
L183[05:51:23] <dequbed> Use Kerberos.
L184[05:51:45] <stephan48> the problem here is that the getting a cert stage is happening in one of the earliest steps directly after host creation.
L185[05:52:05] <dequbed> So?
L186[05:53:02] <stephan48> i might indeed end up with Kerberos and a Open ID Connect based system for webapps(In turn authenticating against kerberos/external web frontend for external clients)
L187[05:53:15] <stephan48> still fleshing out all the details :)
L188[05:55:47] <dequbed> A reason for OpenID vs. Shibboleth or just haven't gotten that far yet?
L189[05:56:57] <Trainfan91> %tell @gamax92 Your MIDIplayer is in need of updates on linux and lua 5.3
L190[05:56:57] <MichiBot> Trainfan91: @gamax92 will be notified of this message when next seen.
L191[05:57:07] <stephan48> i once played with Shibboleth. no fun no fun at all. SAML and the whole protocol/encryption chain is meh tbh.
L192[05:57:27] <stephan48> played means i set it up with a user db and a few test client webapps
L193[06:02:03] <Forecaster> I don't think that's gonna work
L194[06:02:55] <Forecaster> you can't %tell an irc user and the @ will prevent it from recognizing the irc user
L195[06:03:01] <Bob> @kieran henlo
L196[06:03:07] <Forecaster> you can't %tell a discord user and the @ will prevent it from recognizing the irc user [Edited]
L197[06:03:17] <Bob> broke
L198[06:03:20] <Bob> Cat's work
L199[06:03:36] <Bob> rip
L200[06:03:51] <Bob> @kieran ?
L201[06:03:57] <Bob> i do
L202[06:04:12] <Bob> lemme get a normal headset, i can't hear anything sec
L203[06:04:33] <Bob> so ask your queston @kieran
L204[06:04:37] <Bob> im now just working on my GPU lib
L205[06:04:46] <Bob> its broke for no reason
L206[06:05:16] <Bob> yea
L207[06:05:23] <Z0idburg> wat
L208[06:05:31] <Bob> talking to @kieran i thin kwe should go dm lmao
L209[06:05:43] <Bob> we need a #nomic channel also @Z0idburg lemme uplaod my code to github sec
L210[06:06:33] <Z0idburg> fun
L211[06:06:35] <Z0idburg> I just woke up
L212[06:06:40] <Bob> good morning
L213[06:07:00] <Z0idburg> I was so tired yesterday I got home from work at like 7:30
L214[06:07:08] <Z0idburg> walked up to bed without dinner and now I just woke up
L215[06:07:17] <Z0idburg> at 7:00 AM XD
L216[06:11:55] <Bob> https://paste.dimdev.org/apekivuwik.mccrash
L217[06:12:02] <Bob> Crash from placing a colorfull lamp of top of another
L218[06:14:53] <Forecaster> %tonk
L219[06:14:53] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Forecaster, you were not able to beat Lizzian's record of 1 hour, 11 minutes and 9 seconds this time.
L220[06:14:54] <MichiBot> 48 minutes and 22 seconds were wasted! Missed by 22 minutes and 47 seconds!
L221[06:14:58] <Forecaster> dammit
L222[06:15:04] <Forecaster> miscalculated
L223[06:34:30] <Z0idburg> I need to finish my gpu lib
L224[06:34:37] <Z0idburg> its 99% done and works great
L225[06:35:10] <MGR> I look forward to seeing it
L226[06:35:28] <Trainfan91> @Z0idburg http://tinyurl.com/yyg5aupa
L227[06:35:52] <Trainfan91> srry im tired
L228[06:36:03] <MGR> Lol
L229[06:36:07] <MGR> Looks good
L230[06:36:13] <Trainfan91> i am a meme necromancer
L231[06:37:00] <Trainfan91> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQE66WA2s-A
L232[06:37:00] <MichiBot> [HD] All Your Base Are Belong To Us | length: 4m 22s | Likes: 5,886 Dislikes: 101 Views: 390,541 | by BaronTrance | Published On 3/10/2016
L233[06:39:52] <Trainfan91> like if u get the refrence
L234[06:39:59] <Trainfan91> http://tinyurl.com/y2aahoke
L235[06:41:11] <Trainfan91> oh... bleep, u can't like on discord can you?
L236[06:45:22] <MGR> You can
L237[06:45:27] <MGR> Add a thumbs up reaction
L238[06:46:23] <Rph> http://tinyurl.com/y6x3crju
L239[06:47:21] <Trainfan91> %tell @ben_mkiv is there a way to place the ibm oc case on a half-slab?
L240[06:47:22] <MichiBot> Trainfan91: @ben_mkiv will be notified of this message when next seen.
L241[06:47:36] <MGR> Yes
L242[06:47:43] <MGR> But it won't take up the other half of the block
L243[06:47:47] <Rph> Stop wasting tonks smh
L244[06:48:03] <MGR> Unless you mean some sort of add-on case
L245[06:48:23] <MGR> Not sure what "ibm oc case" means
L246[06:48:50] <Rph> Minecraft double smooth stone slab
L247[06:51:52] <Trainfan91> does the tell command cost tonks?
L248[06:52:30] <MGR> No
L249[06:52:45] <Forecaster> @Trainfan91 doing tells with an @ before the name doesn't work...
L250[06:53:00] <Forecaster> it only works if it matches an irc name
L251[06:53:07] <MGR> Well, ben does have a discord, so at least he should get the ping
L252[06:53:22] <Forecaster> yeah but adding tells is pointless
L253[06:53:28] <MGR> Yes
L254[06:53:56] <Trainfan91> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzKKjJuujSs
L255[06:53:57] <MichiBot> I HAVE NO IDEA | length: 3s | Likes: 688 Dislikes: 28 Views: 119,813 | by insanewalruz | Published On 26/6/2011
L256[06:54:10] <Trainfan91> what anything does here
L257[06:54:13] <Trainfan91> lol
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L259[06:55:57] <Trainfan91> also, how do i adjust a monitor's color depth
L260[06:56:21] <Forecaster> then ask...
L261[06:56:47] <MGR> https://ocdoc.cil.li/component:gpu
L262[06:56:50] <MGR> gpu.setDepth()
L263[06:56:57] <Trainfan91> ok, what do things do here?
L264[06:56:59] <Trainfan91> lol
L265[06:57:23] <MGR> You program computers to accomplish tasks
L266[07:00:28] <Trainfan91> i just want to see my tier 3 monitor display as many colors as tier 1 inside of openos
L267[07:00:37] <Trainfan91> how do i do that?
L268[07:00:41] <MGR> I told you
L269[07:00:44] <MGR> gpu.setDepth()
L270[07:00:53] <MGR> Please read the article I linked for more information
L271[07:06:16] <Trainfan91> so if i type gpu.setDepth(1) in openos it'll be black and white?
L272[07:08:07] <Trainfan91> am i understanding that right
L273[07:08:09] <Trainfan91> ?
L274[07:10:00] <MGR> I think so, but try it out and let me know what happens
L275[07:10:38] <Z0idburg> ok
L276[07:10:41] <Z0idburg> back
L277[07:10:53] <Trainfan91> nothing i get error
L278[07:10:56] <Z0idburg> so what are we looking at here Bob
L279[07:11:17] <MGR> What's the error?
L280[07:11:27] <Z0idburg> (;..;)
L281[07:11:34] <Trainfan91> file not found
L282[07:11:54] <Z0idburg> (V) (;..;) (V)
L283[07:11:55] <MGR> Then you're trying to run your program wrong or something
L284[07:11:56] <Z0idburg> That's cool
L285[07:12:03] <Bob> Sec
L286[07:12:19] <Trainfan91> i wanna do it directly
L287[07:12:26] <Trainfan91> no program
L288[07:12:42] <Bob> brb
L289[07:12:58] <Trainfan91> can it be done?
L290[07:13:09] <Trainfan91> with no .lua file
L291[07:13:14] <MGR> Oh
L292[07:13:16] <Z0idburg> What do you want to do now?
L293[07:13:18] <MGR> Use the lua interpreter
L294[07:13:24] <MGR> type "lua" in the console
L295[07:14:39] <Trainfan91> tried that too, err @ line 59
L296[07:15:13] <Trainfan91> http://tinyurl.com/yycxoqv3
L297[07:15:30] <Z0idburg> you guys and your stupid tier 3 screens
L298[07:15:37] <Z0idburg> you can't read that shit without a microscope
L299[07:15:45] <MGR> You need to do gpu=component.gpu first
L300[07:15:56] <MGR> @Z0idburg You can read it easily
L301[07:16:00] <Z0idburg> dude you need a component
L302[07:16:03] <Z0idburg> I can't read it at all
L303[07:16:12] <MGR> What's your monitor?
L304[07:16:20] <Z0idburg> 320x200
L305[07:16:24] <Z0idburg> lol just kidding
L306[07:16:35] <Z0idburg> This one is 1360x768
L307[07:16:45] <Z0idburg> but it's like 29"
L308[07:16:49] <MGR> Well that's your problem
L309[07:17:06] <Z0idburg> it shouldn't be a problem
L310[07:17:18] <MGR> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L311[07:17:22] <MGR> Don't use T3 screens then
L312[07:17:31] <Z0idburg> I use tier 2 screens
L313[07:17:45] <Z0idburg> but when other people paste photos of tier 3 crap
L314[07:17:50] <Z0idburg> its like wtf I can't read that for shit
L315[07:18:01] <MGR> I don't think the problem is with the Tier 3 screen ?
L316[07:18:06] <Z0idburg> I do
L317[07:18:18] <MGR> I'm pretty sure it's your terrible monitor
L318[07:18:23] <Z0idburg> nah
L319[07:18:29] <Z0idburg> its been that way with every monitor I've had
L320[07:18:36] <Z0idburg> my monitor is not terrible
L321[07:18:50] <MGR> I've used a 17" 1080p monitor and been fine, and a 27" 1440p monitor and been fine
L322[07:19:01] <Z0idburg> its too small even on the 4K
L323[07:19:18] <MGR> Then your Minecraft GUI settings are wacked or something
L324[07:19:23] <Z0idburg> nah
L325[07:19:25] <MGR> Because that definitely isn't normal
L326[07:19:28] <Z0idburg> tier 2 ftw
L327[07:19:33] <Z0idburg> that's a nice reading res
L328[07:19:40] <Z0idburg> tier 3 for graphicx
L329[07:19:47] <Z0idburg> or giant ass screens
L330[07:19:50] <MGR> I mean, if you don't even want to try to resolve the problem, ok
L331[07:20:02] <MGR> Wait, you're trying to read it without the right click?
L332[07:20:05] <Z0idburg> The problem is the scale of the font is too small
L333[07:20:20] <Z0idburg> even when right clicking the screen
L334[07:20:24] <MGR> Oh
L335[07:20:29] <MGR> Then your settings are messed up
L336[07:20:39] <Z0idburg> no I just don't like small text
L337[07:20:47] <MGR> It's not small though
L338[07:20:59] <Z0idburg> anyways
L339[07:21:07] <Z0idburg> this guy needs to figure out why he's doing gpu wrong
L340[07:21:16] <MGR> I know why he's doing it wrong
L341[07:21:22] <Z0idburg> @Trainfan91 you need to have a component
L342[07:21:27] <MGR> It's because he didn't get the component beforehand
L343[07:21:29] <MGR> I told him that
L344[07:21:36] <Trainfan91> solved ty
L345[07:21:40] <Z0idburg> lol
L346[07:21:42] <MGR> You're welcome
L347[07:21:51] <Z0idburg> O M G
L348[07:21:58] <Z0idburg> MGR used you're correctly
L349[07:22:05] <Z0idburg> first person in the last ten years I've talked tio
L350[07:22:07] <Z0idburg> to*
L351[07:22:19] <MGR> I've always used it correctly
L352[07:22:24] <Z0idburg> most people do not.
L353[07:22:25] <MGR> You've never noticed before???
L354[07:22:28] <Lizzian> your're
L355[07:22:47] <Trainfan91> mind = blown
L356[07:23:01] <Z0idburg> What happened now Trainfan
L357[07:23:40] <Trainfan91> i'm talk about what you've just said lol
L358[07:23:51] <Trainfan91> "YOU'VE"
L359[07:23:56] <Z0idburg> you're talk about?
L360[07:25:00] <Trainfan91> https://i.imgur.com/INPtsiq.png
L361[07:25:07] <Z0idburg> fork() while fork()
L362[07:25:35] <Trainfan91> fork() while fork()?
L363[07:25:53] <MGR> It's a fork bomb
L364[07:26:06] <MGR> The process self-replicates until it consumes all your RAM and crashes the system
L365[07:26:29] <Trainfan91> is that like on c64 20 goto10?
L366[07:26:32] <AmandaC> :()}{:|:&};:
L367[07:26:40] <AmandaC> oops
L368[07:26:40] <Z0idburg> THAT ONE ^
L369[07:26:41] <Z0idburg> is very fast
L370[07:27:24] <Z0idburg> @Trainfan91 no, 20 goto 10 doesn't cause an infinite loop..
L371[07:27:32] <Z0idburg> I don't know what kind of bullshit idiot told you that
L372[07:28:28] <Trainfan91> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=20%20goto%2010
L373[07:28:48] <Z0idburg> WRONG.
L374[07:29:24] <Z0idburg> First of all, BASIC was my childhood language, I had a Radio Shack TANDY TRS-80 I'll have you know growing up.
L375[07:29:26] <AmandaC> Urban Dictionary is about as reliable for true information as sitting down next to someone tweaking out on acid and listening to ther trip
L376[07:29:33] <Z0idburg> and that is not how 20 goto 10 works
L377[07:29:38] <Z0idburg> basically
L378[07:29:57] <Z0idburg> @Trainfan91 I still use it! I'll grab a picture
L379[07:30:31] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/y34jrvrz
L380[07:30:41] <Z0idburg> I took that photo maybe a year ago
L381[07:30:45] <Z0idburg> when I dug it out again
L382[07:30:49] <Trainfan91> but what if u don't know the stop command?
L383[07:31:06] <Z0idburg> 20 goto 10 does not create an infinite loop...
L384[07:31:09] <Z0idburg> what do you mean stop command
L385[07:31:28] <AmandaC> 20 goto 10 on it's own doesn't
L386[07:31:34] <Z0idburg> Ok/ you see the computer's keyboard right
L387[07:31:43] <AmandaC> `10 print "Hello"; 20 goto 10` will
L388[07:31:44] <Z0idburg> there's a red break key on it on the top right
L389[07:31:47] <Z0idburg> that's your stop key ?
L390[07:31:55] <Z0idburg> ^^ what AmandaC says
L391[07:31:58] <dequbed> stephan48: I've tuned my transport, now indexing is actually CPU-bound instead of IO-Bound. With the few MB/s I'm throwing at it and the few hundred MB currently stored in Solr it doesn't use more than 300MB RAM while indexing and querying. So running this entire setup on a RPi B should work just about. You could however easily forgo Solr and build your own tiny indexing server with Xapian or similar.
L392[07:32:13] <Z0idburg> AmandaC's solution is a proper infinite loop
L393[07:32:15] <Trainfan91> that's what i meant
L394[07:32:21] <Z0idburg> No that's not the same thing
L395[07:32:33] <AmandaC> `10 goto 10` would also work
L396[07:32:41] <Z0idburg> yes
L397[07:32:44] <MGR> Urban Dictionary did include the full example
L398[07:33:06] <dequbed> the 'and' being temporal as well as in you can query the store continously while dumping ~10MB/s into Solr without exceeding 300MB RAM usage.
L399[07:33:31] <Trainfan91> WHAT HAVE I DONE?? THIS COMMENT SECTION = INFINITE LOOP...
L400[07:33:55] <stephan48> dequbed: thanks for testing! really need to get to playing with it :(
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L402[07:34:04] <Z0idburg> 20 GOSUB 20
L403[07:34:05] <Z0idburg> ?
L404[07:34:16] <dequbed> stephan48: I'll try to have it documented by the time you have time, but no guarantees ;)
L405[07:34:17] <Z0idburg> That'l crash your box real fast
L406[07:35:03] <AmandaC> Regardless, never trust urban dictionry
L407[07:35:34] <stephan48> i thought about starting a blog. both as a documentation and because i planed that for ages. would be cool for the upcoming renovations of the infrastructure
L408[07:36:43] <dequbed> stephan48: Oh, I forgot to mention: YMMV, I'm running this on a fast SSD with high priority being given to Solrs indexing processes. You will not be able to dump MB/s of logs into *any* indexing server running on a RPi simply because the storage interfaces of that computer are not fast enough.
L409[07:36:45] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/y2hs3x4b
L410[07:36:47] <Z0idburg> hehe
L411[07:37:16] <stephan48> yea i got 7,2k rotational disks in that machine
L412[07:37:53] <Z0idburg> I might make a video of using my TRS-80
L413[07:37:56] <dequbed> Then again, my small server is generating something on the order of a KB of logs per second so you're probably not going to anyway ;)
L414[07:38:11] <Z0idburg> Who'd want to see that?
L415[07:38:37] <MGR> I'd take a look
L416[07:38:40] <stephan48> yea
L417[07:38:54] <AmandaC> for some reason I was thinking it'd be a calculator of some kind, Sophia
L418[07:39:47] <Z0idburg> no its a 64K computer
L419[07:39:57] <Z0idburg> it's not as good as the commodore imo
L420[07:40:15] <Z0idburg> It suffers some challenging hardware problems such as not having IRQ for serial IO
L421[07:41:05] <Z0idburg> I've been thinking of making a circuit that acts as an interface to the serial where you receive serial into a static RAM buffer
L422[07:41:09] <Z0idburg> and you ask when you want more data
L423[07:41:12] <Z0idburg> or just send data
L424[07:41:23] <Rph> %tonk
L425[07:41:24] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! Rph! You beat Lizzian's previous record of 1 hour, 11 minutes and 9 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L426[07:41:25] <MichiBot> Rph's new record is 1 hour, 26 minutes and 30 seconds! 15 minutes and 20 seconds gained!
L427[07:41:29] <Rph> yuss
L428[07:41:35] <Rph> %tonkout
L429[07:41:36] <MichiBot> Rph has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current score: 0.006
L430[07:42:07] <MGR> %tonk
L431[07:42:24] <Z0idburg> The chip on the color computer TRS-80 however is very nice. It's a motorola 6809E
L432[07:42:27] <Z0idburg> dual stack
L433[07:42:35] <Z0idburg> Great for Forth
L434[07:43:40] <Z0idburg> By the way
L435[07:43:48] <Z0idburg> I'm impressed how fast this is
L436[07:43:50] <Z0idburg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIOhfHGIjis
L437[07:43:51] <MichiBot> 1981 FFT Audio Spectrum Analyzer demo | length: 2m 46s | Likes: 9 Dislikes: 0 Views: 1,810 | by VironCybernet | Published On 15/11/2009
L438[07:44:18] <Z0idburg> Thats on a color computer trs-80
L439[07:45:00] <Forecaster> %tonk
L440[07:45:00] <MichiBot> Dogast! Forecaster! You beat Rph's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L441[07:45:01] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 3 minutes and 24 seconds! 3 minutes and 24 seconds gained!
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L443[07:45:31] <Z0idburg> It reads the audio information off of the audio cassette input
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L445[07:49:53] <Trainfan91> how do i list my components
L446[07:50:25] <Z0idburg> there is component.list()
L447[07:50:26] <Trainfan91> %tonk
L448[07:50:28] <MichiBot> Willikers! Trainfan91! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 3 minutes and 24 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L449[07:50:29] <MichiBot> Trainfan91's new record is 5 minutes and 27 seconds! 2 minutes and 2 seconds gained!
L450[07:50:29] <Z0idburg> you can even do stuff like.
L451[07:50:38] <Z0idburg> component.list('gpu')
L452[07:50:47] <Z0idburg> it rill return an iterator be warned
L453[07:53:46] <Trainfan91> stupid question, but y isn't there a tablet with a tier 3 screen yet?
L454[07:54:00] <Z0idburg> lol
L455[07:54:06] <Z0idburg> because its a tablet
L456[07:54:21] <Z0idburg> and tier 3 screens aren't that great ?
L457[07:54:46] <MGR> Don't listen to what he says about Tier 3
L458[07:54:51] <MGR> His settings are broken
L459[07:54:51] <Trainfan91> at LEAST let the creative version have it
L460[07:55:04] <Z0idburg> submit a PR
L461[07:55:16] <MGR> Or open an issue requesting it
L462[07:55:28] <MGR> @Z0idburg He can't submit a PR if he doesn't know how to program
L463[07:56:29] <Z0idburg> Be nice!
L464[07:56:32] <Z0idburg> ?
L465[07:56:38] <Z0idburg> I'm still right
L466[07:57:05] <MGR> What?
L467[07:57:07] <Trainfan91> another question; once ive changed my gpu bit depth, how do i force it to "stick around" outside of lua
L468[07:57:28] <Z0idburg> gpu is a stateful component
L469[07:57:49] <Z0idburg> it's independent on the code used to drive it
L470[07:58:33] <Z0idburg> if something changes the bit depth or assumes the gpu is in a particular state though and modifies it or uses it, then it may cause undefinable behavior.
L471[07:58:35] <Rph> %tonk
L472[07:58:35] <MichiBot> Fopdoodle! Rph! You beat Trainfan91's previous record of 5 minutes and 27 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L473[07:58:36] <MichiBot> Rph's new record is 8 minutes and 7 seconds! 2 minutes and 40 seconds gained!
L474[07:58:43] <Rph> :D
L475[07:58:50] <Zef> Oh wow it's only 9
L476[07:58:58] <Z0idburg> yes I gotta drive to work in a bit
L477[07:59:18] <Rph> Its 15:00 here
L478[07:59:25] <Rph> Ahh timezones
L479[07:59:38] <Z0idburg> the gpu will lose state on shutdown usually, @Trainfan91 keep that in mind
L480[08:00:02] <Z0idburg> sometimes though when you shut an OC computer down the framebuffer will remain stuck to the screen as if it is on...
L481[08:00:03] <Rph> GPU driver in my os will have the option to retain certain states
L482[08:00:23] <Rph> Like depth, resolution, palette etc
L483[08:00:40] <Z0idburg> you're going to use a pallette?
L484[08:01:07] <Z0idburg> the gpu doesn't have hardware pallette just so you know.
L485[08:05:54] <Z0idburg> I wish the gpu did have a hardware sprite system though
L486[08:06:36] <Wattana Gaming> *You played yourself* http://tinyurl.com/y4mhyn2s
L487[08:07:52] <Z0idburg> lol
L488[08:07:55] <Z0idburg> Hello @Wattana Gaming
L489[08:08:00] <Wattana Gaming> what
L490[08:08:02] <Wattana Gaming> who are you?
L491[08:08:13] <Z0idburg> ...
L492[08:08:20] <Wattana Gaming> just kidding lol
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L494[08:08:39] <Z0idburg> I got all of the bugs worked out of gtty
L495[08:09:01] <Z0idburg> the only thing it doesnt do yet is scroll and handle some escape codes because I am lazy
L496[08:09:14] <Z0idburg> I've been working more on the rest of my OS lately
L497[08:09:22] <Z0idburg> like VFS support
L498[08:09:38] <Wattana Gaming> vfs? is it a filesystem driver?
L499[08:13:02] <Trainfan91> stupid question, but could this EVER be done?
L500[08:13:03] <Trainfan91> http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-079
L501[08:14:37] <Forecaster> what?
L502[08:14:43] <MGR> Not with the hardware described
L503[08:14:44] <Forecaster> that's a lot of text
L504[08:14:56] <Wattana Gaming> If the AI know the limit of it's hardware then yes
L505[08:15:04] <Wattana Gaming> ...probably
L506[08:15:11] <MGR> What? No
L507[08:15:22] <MGR> I find it hard to believe that you can run an AI on 80s hardware
L508[08:15:37] <Trainfan91> so, super-duper compression?
L509[08:15:50] <Wattana Gaming> I think that would literally fry the CPU :/
L510[08:16:20] <MGR> No
L511[08:16:21] <MGR> and no
L512[08:16:47] <Forecaster> constantly running a casette tape would wear it out pretty quickly
L513[08:17:32] <Trainfan91> according to lore; was upgraded to 700mb hdd later for preservation
L514[08:17:55] <MGR> It still doesn't matter
L515[08:18:06] <MGR> Either one is insufficient
L516[08:18:16] <Forecaster> the tape would have worn out in those 5 years the creator forgot about it
L517[08:18:28] <Trainfan91> good point
L518[08:18:37] <Z0idburg> to be honest there are alternatives to neural networks
L519[08:18:42] <Z0idburg> that will run on 80s hardware
L520[08:18:46] <Z0idburg> they just don't work the same way
L521[08:18:51] <Z0idburg> and they're clearly not as effective
L522[08:18:56] <Trainfan91> lol really?
L523[08:19:11] <Z0idburg> neural networks are not the only way to handle AI
L524[08:19:28] <MGR> Correct
L525[08:19:36] <MGR> But they won't run well enough on 80s hardware
L526[08:20:18] <Trainfan91> also, could a human brain be used as a cpu?
L527[08:20:31] <Trainfan91> ala fallout robobrain?
L528[08:21:06] <MGR> Not without extensive cybernetics
L529[08:21:48] <Trainfan91> i personally feel the key to making decent ai is to understand natural stupidity 1st
L530[08:22:03] <Z0idburg> @Wattana Gaming we've told you this before. VFS is not a filesystem driver, it is a filesystem router.
L531[08:22:13] <Wattana Gaming> oh....
L532[08:22:15] <Wattana Gaming> ._.
L533[08:22:16] <Z0idburg> it routes file IO to the drivers
L534[08:23:13] <Trainfan91> is it possible to raid raids?
L535[08:23:28] <Trainfan91> and make a " SUPER RAID?"
L536[08:24:06] <MGR> Yes
L537[08:24:10] <MGR> IRL or OC?
L538[08:24:13] <Trainfan91> oc
L539[08:24:18] <MGR> Through software, yes
L540[08:24:29] <MGR> It won't boost performance though
L541[08:25:11] <Trainfan91> i just want my oc to "see" all my raids as 1
L542[08:25:14] <Z0idburg> Wattana, this is how my OS's VFS works
L543[08:25:36] <Wattana Gaming> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ubamoxuzix
L544[08:25:41] <Z0idburg> it has open(), mount(), umount() bind, and ubind()
L545[08:26:28] <Trainfan91> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9M1e_zxPw8
L546[08:26:28] <MichiBot> ASRIEL PLAYS HOPES & DREAMS IN MIDI | Undertale Animated Parody | length: 23s | Likes: 55,026 Dislikes: 761 Views: 1,864,666 | by ObisamAnimations | Published On 16/3/2016
L547[08:26:36] <MGR> Trainfan91, Trotwood can do that, but I wouldn't recommend it for beginners
L548[08:26:39] <Wattana Gaming> WHAT THE F__K?
L549[08:26:41] <MGR> It's also not done yet
L550[08:26:54] <Z0idburg> when you open() a new file, the VFS looks at the path of the file and finds a filesystem drivr that handles that file. If it finds one, it will give you back a table containing the filehandle and process Id of the filesystem driver, not the vfs
L551[08:27:05] <Z0idburg> the filesystem driver has read(), write(), close() and any other special operations
L552[08:27:10] <Trainfan91> hopes and dreams intensfifies
L553[08:27:18] <Z0idburg> the VFS doesn't do any reading or writing
L554[08:27:41] <Wattana Gaming> Would I be able to do this?:
L555[08:27:42] <Wattana Gaming> mount `bootFs` as `/`
L556[08:27:42] <Wattana Gaming> Access `/bin/something.lua`
L557[08:27:53] <Trainfan91> is trotwoot irl or for opencomputers?
L558[08:28:05] <Z0idburg> Trotwood is my OS
L559[08:28:14] <Z0idburg> for Open Computers and other Lua supporting platforms
L560[08:28:37] <Z0idburg> It's not ready yet. Please hang up and try again later
L561[08:29:00] <Trainfan91> any1 have a link to the old mineos that still had open os in it?
L562[08:29:15] <MGR> What?
L563[08:29:51] <Trainfan91> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/711-mineos-powerful-desktop-environment-for-openos/
L564[08:30:04] <Z0idburg> As MGR says, Trotwood is not meant for general purpose use. It's not for beginners by any means, it has a very focused model of what it is to be used for.
L565[08:30:26] <Trainfan91> but it used to have openos support; now its broke
L566[08:30:27] <Z0idburg> Trotwood is like a mainframe
L567[08:30:45] <Z0idburg> I gotta head to work early
L568[08:30:47] <Z0idburg> its snowin
L569[08:31:03] <Trainfan91> k c u l8r xd
L570[08:31:11] <Wattana Gaming> @Trainfan91 have some **REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE**
L571[08:46:35] <Trainfan91> as i was saying, any1 have a legacy copy of mineos
L572[08:46:37] <Trainfan91> ?
L573[08:47:42] <MGR> You might want to ask wherever the support for mineOS is
L574[08:47:58] <MGR> We don't directly support them exactly
L575[08:50:47] <Forecaster> %tonk
L576[08:50:47] <MichiBot> Sard! Forecaster! You beat Rph's previous record of 8 minutes and 7 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L577[08:50:48] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 52 minutes and 12 seconds! 44 minutes and 4 seconds gained!
L578[09:11:24] <Lizzian> damit forecaster
L579[09:14:55] <flappy> !g
L580[09:15:04] <flappy> ah yes
L581[09:15:11] <flappy> i love mouse shifts
L582[09:15:31] <Forecaster> I'm 40% mouse shifts
L583[09:15:51] <flappy> oh hey it's forecaster
L584[09:16:01] <flappy> have you kept up the rc yt series
L585[09:16:25] <flappy> fsr i haven't seen new eps in ages on the frontpage
L586[09:17:01] <flappy> @forecaster
L587[09:17:11] <Izaya> https://social.shadowkat.net/media/8b8bdd4f-1c5e-49c0-a854-cfebc07094d7/Screenshot_2019-02-22_02-16-31.png :3
L588[09:17:16] <Forecaster> I have not
L589[09:17:24] <flappy> aww
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L591[09:17:41] <Forecaster> I'm picking it up again when we reboot the server for 1.12+
L592[09:17:45] <flappy> Izaya: that looks old as shit
L593[09:18:01] <Izaya> well, it is Windows software :P
L594[09:18:06] <flappy> oh wait that's fitgirl
L595[09:18:11] <flappy> that's why
L596[09:18:23] <Izaya> based fitgirl
L597[09:18:42] <Temia> It doesn't look *that* old
L598[09:18:58] <Lizzian> still looks like a perfectly functional interface to me
L599[09:19:01] <Forecaster> %potion
L600[09:19:02] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a fluffy purple potion
L601[09:19:06] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L602[09:19:07] <MichiBot> Forecaster turns into a catgirl.
L603[09:19:09] <Izaya> Lizzy++
L604[09:19:10] <MichiBot> Izaya: Lizzy now has 9223372036854770002 points
L605[09:19:10] <Forecaster> dammit
L606[09:19:12] <Lizzian> %drink ^
L607[09:19:13] <MichiBot> Lizzian turns into a catgirl.
L608[09:19:21] <Lizzian> wait what
L609[09:19:29] <Lizzian> oh
L610[09:19:34] <Lizzian> i didn't see the Lizzy++ line
L611[09:19:52] <Forecaster> 9 kajillion catgirl points
L612[09:19:54] <flappy> Temia: it's old-style UI
L613[09:20:18] <Izaya> Temia: it looks almost modern with all that wasted space in the middle :p
L614[09:20:55] <Temia> It's like win2k at the absolute earliest with a custom shell
L615[09:21:03] <flappy> it's like
L616[09:21:17] <flappy> kinda openbox-y
L617[09:21:43] <Izaya> XFCE4 with the NEXT WM theme
L618[09:21:56] <Temia> Ah, WINE?
L619[09:22:04] * Izaya nods
L620[09:22:11] <Temia> Makes sense
L621[09:22:28] <Izaya> I don't have a Windows machine any more but this is actually working properly for once :P
L622[09:22:35] <Temia> %drink ^
L623[09:22:35] <MichiBot> Temia turns into a catgirl.
L624[09:22:37] <flappy> yeah it's a quasi-linux-y feel
L625[09:22:52] <Izaya> Latest WINE must cope better with FitGirl installers than earlier versions
L626[09:22:54] <Mimiru> %drink ^
L627[09:22:55] <MichiBot> Mimiru turns into a catgirl.
L628[09:22:57] <Mimiru> woo
L629[09:23:06] <Temia> Wouldn't call it quasi if it *is* Linux
L630[09:23:21] <Lizzian> Izaya: I don't think i've actually booted into my PC's windows install since about the start of november
L631[09:23:22] <flappy> yes
L632[09:23:25] <flappy> i know
L633[09:23:26] <flappy> but
L634[09:23:33] <Forecaster> everybody be stealing my potion
L635[09:23:51] <Lizzian> virtual windows is more than adiquate to handle my maybe-once-a-week use
L636[09:23:51] <flappy> i wasn't 100% on it at the time of saying it was openboxy
L637[09:23:54] * Temia offers flappy a fluffy purple potion
L638[09:24:04] <flappy> %drink ^
L639[09:24:04] <MichiBot> This doesn't seem to be a potion I recognize...
L640[09:24:14] <Temia> What
L641[09:24:22] <flappy> :think:
L642[09:24:44] <Izaya> Lizzy: only time I've booted up a windows VM since july is for work
L643[09:24:45] <Forecaster> it's probably not liking the * after the potion
L644[09:24:49] <Teris> ?
L645[09:24:52] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/bLlUnfb.png
L646[09:24:59] <Temia> It's IRC though
L647[09:25:05] <Temia> A CTCP action
L648[09:25:31] <Forecaster> oh
L649[09:25:35] <Forecaster> right
L650[09:25:42] <Forecaster> it doesn't scan those I don't think
L651[09:25:53] <Temia> Bluh
L652[09:26:01] <Forecaster> the list only has messages
L653[09:26:15] <Temia> I'll PR that in if I must
L654[09:26:16] <Lizzian> Izaya, I kinda wish my monitors wouldn't look like ass when rotated vertical
L655[09:26:29] <Temia> Ahem, have a fluffy purple potion
L656[09:26:39] <Lizzian> %s/vertical/portrait
L657[09:26:39] <MichiBot> <Lizzian> Izaya, I kinda wish my monitors wouldn't look like ass when rotated portrait
L658[09:26:56] <Temia> %s/portrait/TATE
L659[09:26:57] <MichiBot> <Lizzian> Izaya, I kinda wish my monitors wouldn't look like ass when rotated TATE
L660[09:27:06] * Temia giggleflee
L661[09:27:07] <Izaya> Lizzy: mine have terrible vertical viewing angles so I have to get em just right for where I'm sitting
L662[09:27:57] <Lizzian> ah
L663[09:28:32] <Forecaster> %potion
L664[09:28:32] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a light lime potion
L665[09:28:36] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L666[09:28:36] <MichiBot> Forecaster turns into a toad.
L667[09:28:45] <Forecaster> sigh
L668[09:29:01] <Forecaster> I had that one recently too >:
L669[09:32:30] * Temia feeds Forecaster a fluffy purple potion
L670[09:32:43] <Temia> Join the revolution
L671[09:37:12] <Forecaster> Lizzy can you restart MichiBot in a few minutes?
L672[09:43:33] <Rph> %tonk
L673[09:43:33] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Rph! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 52 minutes and 12 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L674[09:43:34] <MichiBot> Rph's new record is 52 minutes and 46 seconds! 33 seconds gained!
L675[09:43:42] <Rph> muahahaha
L676[09:46:24] <Izaya> well this is unusual
L677[09:46:31] <Izaya> the install is currently I/O-bound
L678[09:47:03] <MGR> Slap an Intel Optane 905P in your system and you'll be good to go
L679[09:47:11] <MGR> Very cost effective for your problem too /sarcasm
L680[09:47:11] <Izaya> nah man that won't help
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L682[09:47:30] <Izaya> what would help is a direct 10gbit link between my desktop and my server
L683[09:47:43] <MGR> Oh, it's network I/O-bound
L684[09:47:59] <Izaya> which would be weirdly not too terrible as far as cost goes, assuming I'm willing to rig up my own cooling
L685[09:48:07] <MGR> Clearly you need the new 400Gb Ethernet cards Micronix (i think?) is developing
L686[09:48:21] <MGR> Not Micronix
L687[09:48:24] <Izaya> what sort of cabling would that even use?
L688[09:49:02] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/nAATAXl.png
L689[09:49:04] <MGR> Mellanox
L690[09:49:10] <MGR> Mellanox is the company I was thinking of
L691[09:50:01] <MGR> Fiber Optic cables
L692[09:50:08] <Izaya> that makes sense
L693[09:50:11] <MGR> OM4 I think
L694[09:50:20] <Izaya> probably a bit past the limits of copper at that point
L695[09:52:04] <MGR> Well, I can't find the 400Gb cards I looked at 6 months ago, but Mellanox makes 100 Gb/s cards
L696[09:52:14] <MGR> And 200 Gb/s cards will be coming soon with PCIe 4
L697[09:52:21] <Izaya> ah yeah
L698[09:52:26] <Izaya> that'd go nicely with a POWER9 box :3
L699[09:52:43] <Izaya> wonder how spense a switch with 200Gbps would be
L700[09:53:01] <MGR> Probably a lot
L701[09:53:20] <Izaya> I wonder if the Blackbird does PCI-e 4 or if you need to go for a full Talos system
L702[09:53:36] <Izaya> however, I am not game to open a web browser right now given how hard this machine is being hammered
L703[09:53:49] <Izaya> note to self: add swap space some time
L704[09:57:28] <Izaya> ohey the Blackbird does have PCI-e 4
L705[09:57:31] <Izaya> neat
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L707[10:03:25] <Z0idburg> @Bob where's that github
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L709[10:27:40] <Lizzian> @Forecaster considering i don't have access to any of @Mimiru's servers, no
L710[10:28:02] <Mimiru> wait whats up?
L711[10:28:26] <Lizzian> https://discordapp.com/channels/125649403162656768/125649403162656768/548166306420228117
L712[10:28:28] <Mimiru> Oh, michibot needs restarting, theres a command for that :P
L713[10:28:37] <Mimiru> I think you have admin access
L714[10:28:40] <Mimiru> @Forecaster now?
L715[10:28:40] <Lizzian> ah
L716[10:28:56] <Mimiru> Discord users can't %restart though
L717[10:28:58] <Mimiru> %restart
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L721[10:29:26] <Lizzian> yeah, and i think my irc bouncer backlog has enough data in it to crash mibbit
L722[10:30:46] <Izaya> it only does 1000 lines at a time I'm afraid
L723[10:30:48] * Izaya tried
L724[10:31:47] <Z0idburg> 1000!
L725[10:31:50] <Z0idburg> I use like 50 lol
L726[10:32:02] <Lizzian> Yeah, and most of my buffers have a max of 3000
L727[10:32:39] <Izaya> now I just leave weechat connected >..
L728[10:32:41] <Izaya> >.>
L729[10:37:23] <Z0idburg> I find that 50 is a good number
L730[10:37:29] <Z0idburg> if somebody wants me personally they just PM me
L731[10:37:55] <Rph> >line buffers
L732[10:38:09] <Rph> here at discord we have scrolling up
L733[10:38:36] <Rph> %tonk
L734[10:38:37] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Rph! You beat your own previous record of 52 minutes and 46 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L735[10:38:38] <MichiBot> Rph's new record is 55 minutes and 3 seconds! 2 minutes and 17 seconds gained!
L736[10:38:55] <Rph> im tonking with a stopwatch
L737[10:39:05] <Temia> Cheater!
L738[10:39:13] <Temia> I mean I was tempted to do that too but
L739[10:39:17] <Rph> I mean
L740[10:39:20] <Rph> I'm not using a bot
L741[10:39:26] <Rph> and I dont look at my watch all that often
L742[10:39:34] <Rph> especially when using the computer
L743[10:39:40] <Rph> so I just look at the clock and use the calculator
L744[10:39:52] <Rph> and discord's built in search feature and timestamp feature
L745[10:39:53] <Izaya> Rph: so you have line buffers but you don't get to adjust them :^)
L746[10:40:03] <Rph> infinite line buffers
L747[10:40:09] <Rph> the client loads whatever is needed
L748[10:40:18] <Izaya> I mean, I have ~/.znc/moddata/log
L749[10:42:37] <simon816> https://puu.sh/CPDjg/b2a6222aef.png
L750[10:43:04] <Izaya> but ... does it work?
L751[10:43:43] <simon816> yeah, why wouldn't it?
L752[10:44:09] <Izaya> it let me enter numbers like that but it didn't actually keep it
L753[10:45:25] <simon816> you also need to set Maximum Buffer Size: https://puu.sh/CPDmK/cbe3e6c38d.png
L754[10:45:38] <simon816> in global settingss
L755[10:45:38] <Izaya> aha
L756[10:48:24] <Synchro> %tonk
L757[10:48:24] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Synchro, you were not able to beat Rph's record of 55 minutes and 3 seconds this time.
L758[10:48:25] <MichiBot> 9 minutes and 47 seconds were wasted! Missed by 45 minutes and 15 seconds!
L759[10:58:55] <Forecaster> %potion
L760[10:58:56] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a thick white potion
L761[10:59:00] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L762[10:59:00] <MichiBot> Forecaster realizes this was actually a copper salty potion.
L763[10:59:13] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L764[10:59:14] <MichiBot> Forecaster's toes turn invisible.
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L780[11:10:35] <Rph> e
L781[11:10:39] <Rph> what happened here
L782[11:10:44] <Forecaster> netsplit
L783[11:10:46] <Lizzian> netsplit
L784[11:10:50] <Rph> idk what that means
L785[11:10:52] <Rph> can someone enlighten me
L786[11:10:55] <Forecaster> it's an irc thing
L787[11:10:58] <MGR> It's an IRC thing
L788[11:11:02] <Izaya> it's when the network
L789[11:11:03] <Izaya> splits
L790[11:11:09] <MGR> One of the IRC servers went offline or had too many users (I think)
L791[11:11:11] <Forecaster> yes
L792[11:11:25] <Rph> does that happen often
L793[11:11:29] <Forecaster> not really
L794[11:11:36] <MGR> Once every two weeks or so maybe?
L795[11:11:37] <Izaya> either offlined or had the connection interrupted
L796[11:11:50] <Inari|2> It happens every now and then
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L798[11:12:10] <Inari|2> Temia: Temi-tan!
L799[11:12:12] <Inari|2> %pet Temia
L800[11:12:13] * MichiBot pets Temia with a Magic Inari! (25%). 37 health gained (35+2)!
L801[11:12:19] <Inari|2> !
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L803[11:12:43] <Izaya> not too many users though, the IRCds can handle millions of users happily and most networks are sitting on a few hundred thousand
L804[11:13:05] <Inari> Noones sitting on me, thanks
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L816[11:14:48] <Rph> do IRC clients have any reconnect logic?
L817[11:15:03] <MGR> Depends on the client
L818[11:15:05] <MGR> Most do
L819[11:15:14] <MGR> As you can tell from the clients rejoining
L820[11:15:20] <Rph> that would explain people rejoining in bursts
L821[11:15:24] <Izaya> I'm not aware of any clients lacking it
L822[11:15:35] <Izaya> but the re-joining is the servers reconnecting together
L823[11:16:12] <Mimiru> ^
L824[11:16:29] <Mimiru> Both servers still had their users. So when they resynced it generates joins to keep the clients in sync
L825[11:16:42] <Rph> oh okay
L826[11:16:51] <Rph> but like
L827[11:16:57] <Rph> some people seemed to remain
L828[11:17:08] <AmandaC> Because some people were on this side of the split.
L829[11:17:11] <Lizzian> There's more than 2 servers
L830[11:17:12] <AmandaC> The same side as the bot
L831[11:17:13] <Mimiru> Yes, esper has a bunch of servers, and some people are on other servers.
L832[11:17:20] <Rph> ah
L833[11:17:22] <Izaya> maybe it'd have been better to have been on the other side of the split x_x
L834[11:17:24] <Rph> its like a load balancing thing?
L835[11:17:42] <Mimiru> A links to B, B links to C, if C unlinks from B, users from A and B still exist. EXCEPT to users on server C
L836[11:17:43] <Temia> Essentially, as well as allowing people to connect to servers closer to them
L837[11:17:58] <gamax92> When did I release a midi player?
L838[11:18:18] <Mimiru> C sees parts for A and B, A and B see parts from C. When resyncing joins are generated on both sides of the split
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L840[11:18:53] <AmandaC> gamax92: you didn't, they found the one you linked to me which I mirrored into my OC repo
L841[11:19:11] <AmandaC> gamax92: I don't think they realise that it was meant for OC, not for real computers
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L848[11:19:28] <Mimiru> Oh look... again
L849[11:19:29] <Rph> another net split
L850[11:19:34] <Izaya> esper pls
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L859[11:19:39] <Lizzian> "server A locked in" "server B locked in"
L860[11:19:39] <Lizzian> (makes it sound much cooler than it is)
L861[11:19:40] <Rph> is esper having some server trouble?
L862[11:19:50] <Temia> Probably just a bit of turbulence.
L863[11:19:55] <Lizzian> It does from time to time
L864[11:19:56] <Temia> It's been pretty stable for a while.
L865[11:20:05] <Rph> buckle your seatbelts, we are about to have turbulence
L866[11:20:07] <AmandaC> Probably a rolling update for some security issue or another that's not been disclosed yet.
L867[11:20:08] <Izaya> tfw not even seeing the splits
L868[11:20:10] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/IB5XPVx.png
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L870[11:20:11] <Forecaster> it's ain internetornado
L871[11:20:15] <Mimiru> looks like Stormlight is a bit hiccupy today
L872[11:20:34] <Rph> hmmm
L873[11:20:43] <Rph> to IRC users discord people are visible as native users?
L874[11:20:44] <Izaya> oh hey
L875[11:20:47] <Izaya> it's 04:20
L876[11:20:57] <Temia> No, we see your posts as through the Corded relay
L877[11:21:12] <AmandaC> Izaya and several others have client-side scripts that convert the messages to pretend to be IRC users
L878[11:21:14] <Mimiru> @Rph not normally, I could modify my Discord script to put Discord users in my nicklist if I wanted
L879[11:21:21] <Rph> No like
L880[11:21:22] <Forecaster> only if the irc client has a plugin or something that parses cordeds messages
L881[11:21:32] <Rph> on Izaya's screenshot i see my username without anything else
L882[11:21:36] <Rph> besides a ~
L883[11:21:38] <Temia> That's a clientside mod.
L884[11:21:41] <Forecaster> see above
L885[11:21:45] <Rph> oh
L886[11:21:46] <Mimiru> And on mine Discord users are prefixed with ^
L887[11:21:47] <Izaya> we're allowed to do that on IRC
L888[11:21:54] <Rph> well
L889[11:22:05] <Mimiru> we've got scripts that see <Corded> and replace it with the discord name.
L890[11:22:06] <Rph> its not the crime you are punished for, its getting caught
L891[11:22:08] <Rph> :)
L892[11:22:11] <AmandaC> I wonder if I could make such a script for IRCCloud... The electron client-app supports userscripts.
L893[11:22:11] <Forecaster> mine does that too, but it puts a > before the message
L894[11:22:17] <Temia> Yeah, IRC is much more open to custom clients, seeing as how it's a decentralized protocol as opposed to a monolithic entity
L895[11:22:57] <Izaya> tfw still haven't gotten around to writing myself a client
L896[11:23:10] <Lizzian> http://tinyurl.com/y4tfnvk7
L897[11:23:20] <Temia> That said, in normal circumstances, all Discord posts are seen as posts made by a user called 'Corded', which trips up some newbies from time to time
L898[11:23:32] <Rph> hello corded how are you
L899[11:23:34] <Lizzy> Izaya: same
L900[11:23:44] <AmandaC> It's always amusing watching the nublets get confused at Corded's seeming MPD
L901[11:24:01] <Izaya> I'm gonna write a client with luasocket and lua-curses and it's going to be beautiful
L902[11:24:07] <Izaya> read: it's going to be a mess
L903[11:24:16] <Rph> make a client in bash
L904[11:24:17] <Mimiru> AmandaC, lol.. right?
L905[11:24:23] <Izaya> bash? bleh
L906[11:24:26] <Izaya> now, rc shell...
L907[11:24:34] <AmandaC> Izaya: and you'll love it, and pet it, and and hug it and call it george?
L908[11:24:36] <Rph> or in SQL
L909[11:24:45] <Rph> someone wrote a 3D renderer with SQL
L910[11:24:53] <MGR> Why would you write an IRC client in SQL?
L911[11:24:58] <Rph> yes
L912[11:25:07] <Izaya> Rph: http://man.cat-v.org/9front/1/ircrc
L913[11:25:27] <gamax92> oh
L914[11:25:32] <Izaya> ircrc is an IRC client written in the plan 9 native rc shell
L915[11:26:11] <AmandaC> Anyway, how've you been, @gamax92?
L916[11:26:27] <Rph> isn't plan9 basically useless as a daily driver OS?
L917[11:26:34] <Izaya> yes and no
L918[11:26:39] <Rph> I mean, there are no 3D acceleration drivers from what I know
L919[11:26:39] <Izaya> it really depends what you do
L920[11:26:51] <Izaya> do you need 3D accel, though?
L921[11:26:52] <Rph> I think there is no modern web browser
L922[11:27:00] <Izaya> the web browser situation is more of a problem
L923[11:27:11] <Rph> and it can't run crysis /s
L924[11:27:17] <Izaya> I believe the usual fix for that is to run a linux VM for firefox
L925[11:27:17] <Forecaster> everything is better in 3D
L926[11:27:20] <Forecaster> *everything*
L927[11:27:29] <Rph> at this point why not just run linux
L928[11:27:41] <Izaya> because 9front is excellent for network programming
L929[11:27:42] <AmandaC> How are you supposed to program without your 3d AR code windows!?
L930[11:27:51] <gamax92> I'mma just get on IRC instead
L931[11:27:59] <Izaya> good man
L932[11:28:20] <Rph> I am scared of irc
L933[11:28:30] <AmandaC> gamax92: sorry for the trouble with the midi thing, I'll add a disclaimer to the folder / top of the files if you'd like
L934[11:28:31] <Izaya> Lua should work on 9front, right?
L935[11:28:44] <Izaya> Maybe I should port some of my stuff to it, use it for the minitel relay
L936[11:28:44] <Temia> Don't fear the timeless wonders of the first web
L937[11:29:05] <Izaya> a Lua TCP server, without using luasocket
L938[11:29:18] <gamax92> I've never tested it with lua 5.3 but i don't imagine there'd be any 5.3 specific issues
L939[11:29:34] <gamax92> and note replacement is just running out of channels
L940[11:29:38] <AmandaC> I'm pretty sure there wasn't, I'm guessing they tried to run it on a native linux machine.
L941[11:30:54] <AmandaC> I'm pretty sure that my base intercom system had a lua 5.3 CPU anyway
L942[11:31:14] <AmandaC> And it never had any issues with the 2-3 MIDIs I threw at it
L943[11:32:20] <Zef> What are some differences between 5.2 and 5.3?
L944[11:32:35] <AmandaC> 5.3 has native bit operators, and a proper integer type
L945[11:32:42] <Rph> my mod can't read tables passed to a component in one of those
L946[11:32:43] <MGR> 5.3 has some bitshift operations
L947[11:32:45] <AmandaC> ( though the latter's mostly silently )
L948[11:32:48] <Rph> idk if its 5.2 or 5.3
L949[11:32:55] <MGR> Probably 5.2?
L950[11:33:07] <MGR> Could go either way though
L951[11:33:10] <Rph> idk, I just know that it does a bad on one architecture and works on other one
L952[11:35:22] <gamax92> I should get you a more up to date version of the player
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L954[11:46:39] <Zef> %tell ben_mkiv I get out of school in a couple hours, is the build gonna be up by then?
L955[11:46:41] <MichiBot> Zef: ben_mkiv will be notified of this message when next seen.
L956[11:47:44] <Zef> Are they given a timestamp of the message?
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L958[11:47:55] <Zef> Probably should've asked that first
L959[11:47:59] <Izaya> %tell Zef yes
L960[11:48:00] <MichiBot> Izaya: Zef will be notified of this message when next seen.
L961[11:48:24] <Zef> Lol
L962[11:48:49] <Rph> %tonk
L963[11:48:50] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! Rph! You beat your own previous record of 55 minutes and 3 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L964[11:48:51] <MichiBot> Rph's new record is 1 hour and 25 seconds! 5 minutes and 22 seconds gained!
L965[11:49:02] <Rph> %tonkout
L966[11:49:03] <MichiBot> Rph has tonked out! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.001 tonk points! Current score: 0.007
L967[11:49:05] <Zef> I WAS FUCKING CHECKING TO SEE WHEN THE LAST WAS!
L968[11:49:10] <Rph> :D
L969[11:49:16] <Izaya> just
L970[11:49:17] <Izaya> do it
L971[11:49:49] <Rph> I tonked out tho, grab your tonk no
L972[11:49:50] <Rph> I tonked out tho, grab your tonk now [Edited]
L973[11:49:56] <Zef> Every time I do I fuckin do it like 5 minutes too early and piss somebody off
L974[11:50:03] <MGR> %tonk
L975[11:50:03] <MichiBot> Gadsbudlikins! MGR! You beat Rph's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L976[11:50:04] <MichiBot> MGR's new record is 1 minute! 1 minute gained!
L977[11:50:10] <Rph> use discord's search
L978[11:50:17] <Rph> in: #oc tonk
L979[11:50:28] <Rph> look at timestamp
L980[11:50:30] <Rph> do some math
L981[11:50:31] <Zef> ***as if that's what I was doing*
L982[11:50:36] <Zef> ***as if that's what I was doing*** [Edited]
L983[11:50:51] <Zef> Literally as I typed it in the search box you tonked
L984[11:51:13] <Rph> sorry <3
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L986[12:01:44] <Trainfan91> when it comes to the computronics sound card, is higher or lower delay better?
L987[12:01:52] <Trainfan91> in the config
L988[12:02:23] <Trainfan91> %tonk
L989[12:02:24] <MichiBot> Willikers! Trainfan91! You beat MGR's previous record of 1 minute! I hope you're happy!
L990[12:02:24] <MichiBot> Trainfan91's new record is 12 minutes and 19 seconds! 11 minutes and 19 seconds gained!
L991[12:02:47] <Z0idburg> The default is probably fine
L992[12:02:57] <Z0idburg> I wouldn't play with it unless you have trouble, @Trainfan91
L993[12:03:54] <Trainfan91> what about the other setting for instruction size?
L994[12:04:32] <Z0idburg> these things can directly impact peformance..
L995[12:04:44] <Z0idburg> why are you messing with them
L996[12:04:58] <Z0idburg> these kind of settings are settings that you don't play with unless you know exactly what they do
L997[12:05:00] <Trainfan91> ok default it is then
L998[12:15:35] <Izaya> %tonk
L999[12:15:35] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Izaya! You beat Trainfan91's previous record of 12 minutes and 19 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L1000[12:15:36] <MichiBot> Izaya's new record is 13 minutes and 11 seconds! 51 seconds gained!
L1001[12:23:45] <Bob> @Z0idburg i'm here, i found out that the problem is that the gpu fill thing won't fill at all and i even set the color and everything
L1002[12:23:47] <Bob> just refuses to work
L1003[12:23:49] <Bob> stupid thing
L1004[12:23:56] <Bob> i can send the code i used
L1005[12:26:12] <Bob> https://github.com/big-lip-bob/OCMessesAndBadCode/blob/master/Scripts/NuclearCraft/indev_Fusion.lua
L1006[12:26:13] <Bob> https://github.com/big-lip-bob/OCMessesAndBadCode/blob/master/Libraries/bobs_graph.lua
L1007[12:26:17] <Bob> here are both the script and lib
L1008[12:26:28] <Bob> the if thing works but the fill wont take the color i gave it
L1009[12:26:41] <Bob> just doesnt fill
L1010[12:26:49] <Rph> I have an idea how to make my image format
L1011[12:26:53] <Rph> I have an idea how to make my image format faster [Edited]
L1012[12:27:01] <Rph> it will probably increase encode times
L1013[12:27:24] <Bob> Encode externally, decode in OC
L1014[12:27:26] <Rph> but will make drawing on OC much faster
L1015[12:27:27] <Bob> :GWpaboaWeSmart:
L1016[12:27:28] <Rph> yes I know
L1017[12:27:31] <Bob> yep
L1018[12:27:32] <Rph> I encode externally already
L1019[12:27:59] <Rph> but my idea is
L1020[12:28:02] <Rph> to reduce GPU calls
L1021[12:28:10] <Rph> by drawing multiple characters if the colors are the same for instance
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L1023[12:28:28] <Bob> yep
L1024[12:28:31] <ben_mkiv> .
L1025[12:28:38] <Rph> dot
L1026[12:28:47] <ben_mkiv> @zef no
L1027[12:28:59] <ben_mkiv> i can sent you a dev build if you want to test around
L1028[12:29:02] <ben_mkiv> send*
L1029[12:31:08] <ben_mkiv> @Trainfan91 no there isnt yet
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L1032[12:40:13] <Z0idburg> I am at work so I'll be slow at this but I can surely take a look here
L1033[12:40:21] * Mimiru sighs
L1034[12:40:33] <Mimiru> Trying to get nyancat running over telnet without user login..
L1035[12:40:37] <Mimiru> not going well
L1036[12:43:00] <Inari> %pet Mimiru's telnet port
L1037[12:43:11] <Inari> :<
L1038[12:43:46] <Mimiru> telnetting to eos.pc-logix.com works... but it only updates every 8 seconds or so
L1039[12:43:51] <Mimiru> and doesn't show the nyancat
L1040[12:45:49] <Forecaster> well, it is a cat
L1041[12:50:46] <Z0idburg> This isn't necessarily your problem Bob
L1042[12:50:48] <Z0idburg> but
L1043[12:50:48] <Z0idburg> then gpu.setResolution(40,20)
L1044[12:50:53] <Rph> %tonk
L1045[12:50:54] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Rph! You beat Izaya's previous record of 13 minutes and 11 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L1046[12:50:55] <MichiBot> Rph's new record is 35 minutes and 18 seconds! 22 minutes and 6 seconds gained!
L1047[12:50:55] <Z0idburg> you're not checking if it was successfu
L1048[12:51:06] <Z0idburg> but whatever
L1049[12:51:43] <Bob> @Z0idburg returns true
L1050[12:51:46] <Bob> it is succesfull
L1051[12:51:49] <Bob> doestn do anything
L1052[12:51:58] <Bob> i need to debug the xywh values now
L1053[12:52:05] <Bob> tf is happening i can't stop working just from that
L1054[12:52:07] <Bob> it worked so fine
L1055[12:54:54] <Z0idburg> you know sometimes this doesn't need to be set but
L1056[12:55:03] <Z0idburg> try binding the gpu to a screen manually?
L1057[12:55:16] <Z0idburg> using gpu.bind
L1058[12:55:29] <Bob> all the other functions work
L1059[12:55:30] <Z0idburg> you probably don't need to tbh
L1060[12:55:34] <Bob> only this one goes nutz for no reason
L1061[12:55:37] <Z0idburg> because OpenOS already did
L1062[12:55:39] <Bob> also it uses the only screen it has
L1063[12:55:42] <Bob> yep
L1064[12:56:17] <Z0idburg> so is it the background fill that doesn't work? on line 20
L1065[12:56:38] <Bob> the 2 fills dont do nothing , i mean it worked and suddenly stopped, i may have to review that again
L1066[13:01:59] <dequbed> Izaya: ii is a really nice tool if you want to build a stupid simple IRC client in Lua ;)
L1067[13:07:44] <Z0idburg> ii?
L1068[13:07:59] <Z0idburg> IRC BNF is incredibly simple and straightforward
L1069[13:08:07] <Z0idburg> building a BNF lib in Lua is also quite simple
L1070[13:09:05] <kieran> is bob there
L1071[13:09:12] <Z0idburg> He's around
L1072[13:16:20] <Mimiru> Ugh pretty sure everyone at home got food poisoning
L1073[13:16:45] <Lizzian> :/
L1074[13:18:51] <Z0idburg> Doing what
L1075[13:19:19] <Z0idburg> When I cook food, I use the upside side of cutting boards for raw meats
L1076[13:19:28] <Z0idburg> and I ALWAYs use the backside for anything else
L1077[13:19:36] <Z0idburg> that way there is no risk of salmonella
L1078[13:20:17] <Bob> i have alot of different cutting board fir everything
L1079[13:20:57] <Z0idburg> yeah
L1080[13:21:20] <Z0idburg> I don't reuse boards for the same thing usually either but in case I do, the upside up or upside down tells me what kind of food I cut on it
L1081[13:21:33] <Z0idburg> if it's upside up then I know not to put vegetables on it
L1082[13:22:27] <Z0idburg> whereas if I don't want to reuse an existing board for meat I can look at a board out that's upside down, flip it upside up, then put meat on it
L1083[13:23:05] <Bob> My boards are usually sized for the thing im gonna do
L1084[13:23:11] <Mimiru> We went to a burger joint we've been to a bunch of times
L1085[13:23:12] <Bob> biggest boards for big vegetables and meants
L1086[13:23:20] <Bob> all colored accordinglu
L1087[13:24:38] <Z0idburg> Mimiru but you didn't have a burger?
L1088[13:26:48] <Zef> Ah alright ben
L1089[13:27:17] <Zef> Go ahead and send me a build
L1090[13:27:42] <Zef> Should probably actually tag ben_mkiv
L1091[13:29:51] <Z0idburg> Damn that makes me mad
L1092[13:29:58] <Z0idburg> gpu.get() is shitty
L1093[13:30:05] <Zef> Yes it is
L1094[13:30:05] <Z0idburg> I want it to let me specify a box
L1095[13:30:09] <Z0idburg> a range
L1096[13:30:09] <ben_mkiv> @zef https://github.com/ben-mkiv/OCDevices/releases/tag/testBuild
L1097[13:30:14] <ben_mkiv> but requires MCMultiPart
L1098[13:30:23] <Zef> Alrighty
L1099[13:30:35] <ben_mkiv> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/mcmultipart/files/2615930
L1100[13:30:56] <Zef> Thank you
L1101[13:31:15] <Zef> I will start the download now
L1102[13:31:34] <ben_mkiv> but note on world reload the screens might disconnect from the computer
L1103[13:31:41] <ben_mkiv> and get a new address, havent fixed that yet
L1104[13:32:06] <Zef> Well that's the point of testing
L1105[13:32:31] <Zef> I don't do anything advanced enough that'd probably be effected by that
L1106[13:32:43] <Rph> %tonk
L1107[13:32:44] <MichiBot> Aw jeez! Rph! You beat your own previous record of 35 minutes and 18 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L1108[13:32:45] <MichiBot> Rph's new record is 41 minutes and 49 seconds! 6 minutes and 31 seconds gained!
L1109[13:33:03] <Rph> building up my tonk ?
L1110[13:41:15] <Z0idburg> TURTLE
L1111[13:43:38] <Zef> Cc turtle?
L1112[13:44:30] <Rph> Robot turtle
L1113[13:44:35] <Rph> Crossover episode
L1114[14:00:00] <Z0idburg> TURTLEBOT
L1115[14:00:18] <Rph> I'm not a bot
L1116[14:00:21] <Zef> Make robots and turtles do syncronized dance routines
L1117[14:00:28] <Zef> Oh fuck yes
L1118[14:00:33] <Zef> I'm trying that now
L1119[14:00:48] <Rph> I don't have cc in my pack
L1120[14:02:38] <Z0idburg> I recommend having CC in survival packs with OC
L1121[14:03:10] <Z0idburg> The reason why is that it makes it easy to get into automation with :Lua very early on the the game
L1122[14:03:13] <Z0idburg> like within a few minutes
L1123[14:03:54] <Z0idburg> I'm slow in survival because I don't care as much
L1124[14:04:06] <Z0idburg> so with OC it usually takes me a couple hours before I have my first tier 1 box
L1125[14:04:11] <Rph> I rush a project E emc maker
L1126[14:04:18] <Z0idburg> I'd rather spend more time having fun than doing work
L1127[14:04:23] <Rph> And it's smoorh sailing from there
L1128[14:04:24] <Z0idburg> but I still have fun doing some of the work
L1129[14:04:48] <Rph> I like being op and making big absurd things
L1130[14:05:07] <Izaya> I usually spend a few hours making a comf house, getting a farm going, some nice renewable power
L1131[14:05:11] <Rph> Like an ae2 powered mekanism reactor
L1132[14:05:16] <Izaya> before I do anything complicated and technical
L1133[14:05:23] <Rph> That can run at 98 injection all the time
L1134[14:05:32] <Z0idburg> How is refined storage?
L1135[14:06:09] <Rph> Idk I use Ae2
L1136[14:06:11] <Z0idburg> You know what I've been looking into?
L1137[14:06:20] <Z0idburg> storage crates with OC drones
L1138[14:06:30] <Z0idburg> and just hashing destination storage
L1139[14:07:30] <Z0idburg> I think I'm going to go with a modified merkle tree system that is recursive
L1140[14:07:43] <Izaya> S3: charset barrels may also be worth considering
L1141[14:07:48] <Izaya> 64 stacks of an item in one block
L1142[14:08:12] <Z0idburg> charset barrels?
L1143[14:08:13] <Z0idburg> hmm
L1144[14:08:19] <Izaya> if you're going to allow cleaning up the system, have that for items with more stacks than a double chest can hold maybe
L1145[14:08:46] <Z0idburg> can you interact with charset barrel data easily
L1146[14:09:37] <Z0idburg> you can't have more than one item though in a barrel can you?
L1147[14:10:29] <Z0idburg> Izaya what about a mixture of both?
L1148[14:10:38] <Izaya> aye that's what I'm saying
L1149[14:10:42] <Z0idburg> you can specify rules to hash certain things like stone into "deep storage"
L1150[14:10:45] <Izaya> one item, 64(?) stacks
L1151[14:10:45] <Z0idburg> which are charset barrels
L1152[14:11:02] <Izaya> have a row of those for dirt and cobble and apatite and such
L1153[14:11:03] <Z0idburg> then use storage crate branches for everything not specified for deep storage
L1154[14:11:13] <Z0idburg> think that'd be useful?
L1155[14:11:22] <Z0idburg> because the crates would be better for random stuff
L1156[14:12:09] <dequbed> Izaya: bytheby, who do I have to bribe to get whitelisted on your server?
L1157[14:12:29] <Izaya> step 1: be in #SKSDev
L1158[14:12:32] <AmandaC> Me! I accept payment in cash, and iTunes giftcards
L1159[14:13:15] <dequbed> AmandaC: Extortion it is.
L1160[14:24:18] <Mimiru> @Z0idburg yes, yes I did, and I'm part of Everyone in my house.
L1161[14:24:28] <Mimiru> The only ones who didn't end up sick were my kids.
L1162[14:26:26] <Z0idburg> oh you're sick too?
L1163[14:26:39] <Z0idburg> kids can be very resistant to poisoning
L1164[14:27:07] <Izaya> good to know
L1165[14:27:29] <Z0idburg> because they wipe their fingers on shelves in the store and everything else and touch their face and (this is depending how old they are usually) and generally have been exposed to so many things that'd make any grown adult sick
L1166[14:28:21] <Lizzy> %tonk
L1167[14:28:22] <MichiBot> Willikers! Lizzy! You beat Rph's previous record of 41 minutes and 49 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L1168[14:28:23] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 55 minutes and 38 seconds! 13 minutes and 48 seconds gained!
L1169[14:28:33] * Lizzy evil laughs
L1170[14:28:38] <Z0idburg> WYJ
L1171[14:28:41] <Z0idburg> wth*
L1172[14:29:03] <Mimiru> 5 and 13
L1173[14:29:07] <Mimiru> so yeah..
L1174[14:30:09] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dceyy0cX6J4
L1175[14:30:11] <MichiBot> The agony of trying to unsubscribe | James Veitch | length: 7m 41s | Likes: 318,325 Dislikes: 3,322 Views: 14,390,823 | by TED | Published On 27/9/2016
L1176[14:32:19] <Z0idburg> Mimiru I am too young to have kids
L1177[14:32:28] <Z0idburg> that's what I tell my other half it's still working at age 30
L1178[14:33:39] <Mimiru> I'm 33, lol
L1179[14:33:55] <Z0idburg> I might still use that excuse by then
L1180[14:54:06] <AmandaC> %8ball play with feature flags somehow?
L1181[14:54:07] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Without a doubt
L1182[15:17:48] <Lizzy> hmm, Earlier i was contemplating getting a new phone (probably the XZ3) whic would have been about 600gbp upfront but i'm now looking at GPUs with more than 4GB of VRAM (also a bit cheaper at least AMD side than the new phone would have been)
L1183[15:18:23] <Bob> I'm somehow surviving with 1GB Vram
L1184[15:18:44] <Bob> My card is impressively strong but has a little vram
L1185[15:18:49] <Bob> so im really limited
L1186[15:19:22] <Izaya> 4GB isn't enough to run some games under Proton
L1187[15:19:37] <Izaya> I'm kinda considering a cheap RX480 or RX580 just for the VRAM
L1188[15:19:46] <Lizzy> 4GB isn't enough to run the current mc pack i play
L1189[15:19:53] <Lizzy> well
L1190[15:19:55] <Lizzy> it works
L1191[15:20:03] <Lizzy> but stutters frequently
L1192[15:20:46] <AmandaC> It's more likely CPU bound.
L1193[15:21:09] <Lizzy> it's not
L1194[15:21:14] <Lizzy> my gpu memory is maxed out
L1195[15:22:39] <Izaya> I gather Minecraft is fucking retarded as far as GPU memory goes
L1196[15:22:50] <Izaya> it sticks shit there then replaces it next frame
L1197[15:23:17] <Lizzy> well, it probably isn't helped by me playing with Immersive Railroading and using a fair few addon packs for it
L1198[15:24:34] <Zef> Oh no I'm making the computronics chat box sing all star
L1199[15:25:37] <Bob> Minecraft is retarded
L1200[15:25:46] <Bob> i hope 1.15 graphical engine overhaul will fix all that
L1201[15:25:52] <Zef> Perhaps it is you instead
L1202[15:25:57] <Bob> 1.14 has already massive performance boosts
L1203[15:26:07] <Bob> i mean some of its parts make no sense
L1204[15:26:23] <Izaya> does it use more memory than 1.12?
L1205[15:27:05] <Bob> didn't tested
L1206[15:27:11] <Zef> It likes to say youual
L1207[15:27:16] <Zef> Instead of you'll
L1208[15:27:19] <Bob> but lighting updates and colision system are better
L1209[15:38:41] <ba7888b72413a16a> %tonk
L1210[15:38:42] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! ba7888b72413a16a! You beat Lizzy's previous record of 55 minutes and 38 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L1211[15:38:43] <MichiBot> ba7888b72413a16a's new record is 1 hour, 10 minutes and 19 seconds! 14 minutes and 41 seconds gained!
L1212[15:39:41] <Lizzy> nuu
L1213[15:41:35] <kieran> can someone help me with this error
L1214[15:42:00] <AmandaC> %hello
L1215[15:42:01] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L1216[15:51:07] <Mimiru> https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190221005804/en/Nintendo-America%E2%80%99s-Reggie-Fils-Aime-Retire-Doug-Bowser
L1217[15:51:16] <Mimiru> Bowser will soon be president of Nintendo America
L1218[15:51:35] <MGR> Mario games just got a new ending
L1219[16:06:06] <Inari> Not Bowsette?
L1220[16:21:51] <Forecaster> he doesn't have the crown on
L1221[16:23:15] <Rph> %tonk
L1222[16:23:17] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Rph, you were not able to beat ba7888b72413a16a's record of 1 hour, 10 minutes and 19 seconds this time.
L1223[16:23:18] <MichiBot> 44 minutes and 34 seconds were wasted! Missed by 25 minutes and 45 seconds!
L1224[16:23:23] <Rph> Aaaaaaaaa
L1225[16:23:26] <Rph> Damm
L1226[16:27:04] <Forecaster> ruiner!
L1227[16:27:08] <Forecaster> %potion
L1228[16:27:08] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a thick strawberry potion
L1229[16:27:12] <Forecaster> %drink ^
L1230[16:27:12] <MichiBot> It tastes salty.
L1231[16:27:19] <Forecaster> phoo
L1232[16:27:38] <Rph> Can i potion myself too?
L1233[16:27:45] <Rph> %potion
L1234[16:27:45] <MichiBot> Rph: You get a fragrant orange potion
L1235[16:27:51] <Rph> %drink ^
L1236[16:27:51] <MichiBot> Rph's clothes turn the color of rock.
L1237[16:28:03] <Inari> You know
L1238[16:28:04] <Rph> So my shell is now grey
L1239[16:28:07] <Inari> Rock ahs a lot of colours
L1240[16:28:30] <AmandaC> Oh, I thought Rock (Music)
L1241[16:28:32] <AmandaC> so, black
L1242[16:28:33] <Forecaster> you're a lot of colors D:<
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L1244[16:29:05] <Rph> Well I change colors
L1245[16:29:14] <Rph> Turtle cross bred with a chameleon
L1246[16:29:25] <Rph> (for context see my discord profile picture)
L1247[16:35:55] <Z0idburg> Bob:
L1248[16:36:02] <Z0idburg> I just tested fill and fill does work..
L1249[16:39:46] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/y25wl7bj
L1250[16:40:24] <Z0idburg> had to use an on screen keyboard to printscreen
L1251[16:40:27] <Z0idburg> stupid t530 KB
L1252[16:41:02] <kieran> hi so does any not how to make a program autorun
L1253[16:41:18] <Z0idburg> there's an rc system in OpenOS
L1254[16:41:41] <kieran> can you show me how to do it
L1255[16:41:46] <Kodos> Doesn't naming a file `autorun.lua` or `.autorun.lua` work as well?
L1256[16:41:51] <MGR> Do you want it to autorun on startup?
L1257[16:41:55] <kieran> yep
L1258[16:42:02] <MGR> Then make a file in the / (root) directory
L1259[16:42:08] <MGR> Name it autorun.lua, and you'll be set
L1260[16:42:12] <Bob> cd /
L1261[16:42:16] <Bob> edit autorun.lua
L1262[16:42:20] <Bob> put the code in so
L1263[16:42:45] <Bob> Any way to execute scripts with other scripts like call them also ?
L1264[16:42:51] <kieran> then os.exaucute(file name)
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L1266[16:43:22] <Bob> can a detached OpenOS thread run after the main script has ended
L1267[16:43:40] <Izaya> if that's all you need it to do, symlink as /autorun.lua
L1268[16:44:58] <MGR> @Bob os.execute()
L1269[16:45:29] <Bob> Also i didnt tested but a thread should be able to suspend itself right
L1270[16:45:53] <Bob> i just want to do a floppy that boots and give you soem scripts you can use
L1271[16:46:04] <Bob> a hun frist then when you choosed , executes the actual script
L1272[16:47:06] <Z0idburg> on't need threads for that
L1273[16:47:55] <MGR> Yeah, you don't need threads for that
L1274[16:48:10] <MGR> Just call os.execute(filepath) and you should be ok
L1275[16:48:37] <Z0idburg> oh wth
L1276[16:48:42] <Z0idburg> we just got a /32 IPv6
L1277[16:48:44] <Z0idburg> WTH
L1278[16:50:27] <AmandaC> Not exactly rare.
L1279[16:50:39] <AmandaC> ISTR the RFC says ISPs SHOULD give at least a /48
L1280[16:50:54] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y523xamn
L1281[16:51:24] <AmandaC> haaax
L1282[16:52:46] <Z0idburg> there's no reason we need a /32
L1283[16:53:07] <Z0idburg> we don't need 32 bits of address space for our network
L1284[16:53:19] <Z0idburg> to route ipv6
L1285[16:55:59] <AmandaC> One IPv6 for every atom in your home!
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L1289[17:04:27] <Mimiru> %ping
L1290[17:04:29] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mimiru 0.25s
L1291[17:04:30] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mimiru 0.17s
L1292[17:05:19] <Forecaster> %drink thick strawberry potion
L1293[17:05:19] <MichiBot> You briefly feel like you have just stepped out of a car.
L1294[17:05:49] <Mimiru> o_O
L1295[17:07:29] <Forecaster> :>
L1296[17:09:44] <Z0idburg> YAY
L1297[17:09:59] <Z0idburg> I'm calling Consolidated/ Fairppoint TTYL
L1298[17:10:07] <Z0idburg> I get to tell them they fucked up
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L1300[17:15:59] <Forecaster> Mimiru please restart MichBot once this build is done
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L1302[17:21:30] <Forecaster> I guess i can do it
L1303[17:21:38] <Forecaster> %restart
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L1307[17:22:34] <Forecaster> It's important, for reasons
L1308[17:23:32] <Z0idburg> ok I'm back
L1309[17:23:43] <Z0idburg> I had to bitch at fairpoint
L1310[17:24:51] <Lizzy> %tonk
L1311[17:24:52] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzy, you were not able to beat ba7888b72413a16a's record of 1 hour, 10 minutes and 19 seconds this time.
L1312[17:24:53] <MichiBot> 1 hour, 1 minute and 35 seconds were wasted! Missed by 8 minutes and 44 seconds!
L1313[17:24:57] <Lizzy> ah fuck
L1314[17:25:00] <Lizzy> oh well
L1315[17:25:03] <Lizzy> i'm going to bed
L1316[17:47:40] <AmandaC> %8ball ☔ time?
L1317[17:47:41] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Ask again later
L1318[17:48:06] <AmandaC> well, I disagree
L1319[17:51:18] <Mimiru> Hey, can someone telnet to eos.pc-logix.com for me please?
L1320[17:53:14] <CompanionCube> Mimiru: works
L1321[17:53:33] <Mimiru> \o/ Thanks CompanionCube
L1322[17:53:37] <Kodos> If I wasn't super drunk I would have
L1323[17:53:46] <Kodos> It took me a good 10 seconds to remember what telnet was
L1324[17:53:54] <Mimiru> you should anyway since you're super drunk
L1325[17:53:56] <Mimiru> :P
L1326[17:54:01] <Kodos> Fair point
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L1330[18:44:16] <Izaya> %tonk
L1331[18:44:16] <MichiBot> Dagnammit! Izaya! You beat ba7888b72413a16a's previous record of 1 hour, 10 minutes and 19 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L1332[18:44:17] <MichiBot> Izaya's new record is 1 hour, 19 minutes and 24 seconds! 9 minutes and 4 seconds gained!
L1333[18:55:54] <Z0idburg> %tink
L1334[19:04:36] <MGR> %tonkadonk
L1335[19:24:09] <AmandaC> Hello from Quassel connecting to IRCCloud's BNC
L1336[20:15:23] <Z0idburg> %tonk
L1337[20:15:24] <MichiBot> Avada Kedavra! Z0idburg! You beat Izaya's previous record of 1 hour, 19 minutes and 24 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L1338[20:15:25] <MichiBot> Z0idburg's new record is 1 hour, 31 minutes and 7 seconds! 11 minutes and 42 seconds gained!
L1339[20:15:38] <Trainfan91> %tonk
L1340[20:17:18] <Trainfan91> question, can i scroll through the text in openos if there's too much stuff in a drive?
L1341[20:19:00] <Trainfan91> hello?
L1342[20:19:19] <AmandaC> Patience, youngling
L1343[20:19:52] <Z0idburg> you mean like a pager such as more or less?
L1344[20:19:53] <AmandaC> And no, you can't scroll the terminal, you can do something like `ls | less` though
L1345[20:19:54] <Z0idburg> or most
L1346[20:20:14] <AmandaC> most?
L1347[20:20:26] <Z0idburg> most is another ancient pager more or less
L1348[20:20:37] <Z0idburg> :>
L1349[20:20:39] <AmandaC> I see
L1350[20:20:55] <Z0idburg> I still prefer less over all of them
L1351[20:21:38] <Trainfan91> basically i have 52 midis on a disk and want to scroll back to top
L1352[20:21:54] <Z0idburg> I wonder if asie is around
L1353[20:22:02] <AmandaC> You can't do that, You can do `ls /some/folder | less` though
L1354[20:22:19] <AmandaC> ( Assuming payonel ever fixed the less TLWY bug )
L1355[20:22:43] <Trainfan91> and what does less do?
L1356[20:22:50] <Z0idburg> it's a pager more or less
L1357[20:22:54] <AmandaC> Shows only a screenfull at a time
L1358[20:22:56] <Z0idburg> :>
L1359[20:23:18] <Trainfan91> thatr's kinda what i was looking for ty
L1360[20:23:26] <Z0idburg> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Less_(Unix)
L1361[20:24:11] <Z0idburg> I wouldn't use the command references for OC use but the page talks about what Less came from in general
L1362[20:24:14] <AmandaC> %8ball computer time?
L1363[20:24:14] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Outlook not so good
L1364[20:24:25] <AmandaC> Hrrrm
L1365[20:24:28] <AmandaC> Sounds good
L1366[20:24:50] <Trainfan91> can the less command hake up multiple collums or is this all?
L1367[20:25:01] <AmandaC> Going to unplug I guess, ttfn
L1368[20:25:21] <Trainfan91> bye tigger
L1369[20:25:27] <Z0idburg> tigger?
L1370[20:25:31] <Z0idburg> my cats name is tigger
L1371[20:25:36] <Z0idburg> one of them..
L1372[20:25:49] <Trainfan91> ttfn is whinnie the pooh reference
L1373[20:25:53] <AmandaC> T I DOUBLE-GEH ER
L1374[20:26:02] <Z0idburg> @ComputerEric if you are looking for an equivalent to /w
L1375[20:26:22] <Z0idburg> that's not part of less itself
L1376[20:26:41] <AmandaC> And ttfn means ta-ta For Now, I don't think it's exclusively Winnie the Pooh, so much as a generic exit
L1377[20:27:02] <Z0idburg> oh I forgot tigger said that
L1378[20:27:07] <Z0idburg> its been a looong time
L1379[20:27:21] <Z0idburg> ttfn is much older
L1380[20:28:20] <Trainfan91> @gamax92 did u get my message earlier?
L1381[20:28:38] <Z0idburg> hmm, meh WWII
L1382[20:28:49] <Z0idburg> gamax is still alive eh
L1383[20:30:13] <Trainfan91> “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” Albert Einstein
L1384[20:30:44] <Zef> I noticed the screen reconnecting whenever placing those keyboards down
L1385[20:31:20] <Trainfan91> anyone else notice shaders mess with the screens?
L1386[20:31:23] <ben_mkiv> but only when you place them in the same block
L1387[20:31:24] <Zef> Other than that I didn't see any issues, however I only messed with it for like 20 mins before going off and doing something else
L1388[20:31:31] <Zef> Yes that
L1389[20:31:40] <Zef> I knew you already knew about that
L1390[20:31:52] <Zef> Also did you change the screen thickness?
L1391[20:32:02] <ben_mkiv> well wasnt aware, but its for a reason
L1392[20:32:07] <ben_mkiv> yes
L1393[20:32:09] <Zef> I remember I always had to set it to 1 to stop clipping
L1394[20:32:20] <Zef> And now 1 is thicker
L1395[20:32:25] <ben_mkiv> huh
L1396[20:32:30] <ben_mkiv> that didnt change
L1397[20:32:41] <Zef> Maybe I'm just crazy then
L1398[20:32:46] <ben_mkiv> only the thickness when you place them is now "flat"
L1399[20:32:53] <Trainfan91> ben, did u fix the ibm case yet?
L1400[20:32:54] <Z0idburg> thickness
L1401[20:33:03] <Z0idburg> wat
L1402[20:33:04] <ben_mkiv> fix what?
L1403[20:33:09] <Zef> What was wrong with it?
L1404[20:33:12] <Z0idburg> thickness of what
L1405[20:33:18] <ben_mkiv> of the flat screen panels
L1406[20:33:21] <Zef> Of ocdevices screens
L1407[20:33:26] <Trainfan91> it floats on half slabs
L1408[20:33:31] <Z0idburg> uh
L1409[20:33:36] <Z0idburg> heh
L1410[20:33:37] <Zef> Oh that's intentional
L1411[20:33:44] <Trainfan91> so i have to put it on floor
L1412[20:33:54] <Zef> It rests on the bottom part of the block
L1413[20:33:57] <ben_mkiv> yes, you cant place it into something with another block
L1414[20:34:05] <Zef> Doesn't interact with slabs in anyway
L1415[20:34:25] <Zef> Oh ben I had an idea if you want to hear it in dms
L1416[20:34:36] <ben_mkiv> yea send it
L1417[20:34:43] <Z0idburg> Digital Multiplexing System
L1418[20:34:47] <Z0idburg> DMS.
L1419[20:35:09] <ben_mkiv> for what?
L1420[20:35:24] <Z0idburg> ?
L1421[20:35:39] <Z0idburg> That's what DMS stands for
L1422[20:36:33] <Trainfan91> i JUST want to stick monitor directly on top without this: http://tinyurl.com/y4l76l5y
L1423[20:36:50] <Zef> Put the monitor beside
L1424[20:36:56] <Z0idburg> woah
L1425[20:36:59] <Zef> Best solution as of now
L1426[20:37:04] <Z0idburg> why do I see what looks like an IBM 486
L1427[20:37:08] <Z0idburg> machine
L1428[20:37:14] <Zef> Ocdevices
L1429[20:37:16] <Z0idburg> or similar
L1430[20:37:19] <Zef> I made that model
L1431[20:37:26] <Zef> Ibm 5150 personal computer
L1432[20:37:34] <Zef> 1886 if I remember right
L1433[20:37:37] <Z0idburg> hmmm
L1434[20:37:45] <Z0idburg> 5150 yep
L1435[20:37:58] <ben_mkiv> trainfan91 i want that too, but i have to write a lot of stuff do make this happen
L1436[20:38:04] <Z0idburg> tthoise had an 8088
L1437[20:38:10] <ben_mkiv> as opencomputers wont detect the computer anymore if its multipart
L1438[20:38:10] <Z0idburg> the 8088s weren't all that great tbh
L1439[20:38:13] <Zef> It's an opencomputers case
L1440[20:38:19] <Trainfan91> @Zef would u be so kind as to give the model to a "table"
L1441[20:38:28] <Z0idburg> but those IBM 5xxx machines were nice
L1442[20:38:36] <Zef> I thought about that but it'd be innefficient
L1443[20:38:45] <Z0idburg> so how do I get this mod?
L1444[20:38:51] <Zef> S3 I'll get the link
L1445[20:39:15] <Zef> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/ocdevices
L1446[20:39:44] <Zef> I made the case models ben did everything else
L1447[20:39:51] <ben_mkiv> https://github.com/ben-mkiv/OCDevices/releases or grab that testbuild
L1448[20:40:00] <ben_mkiv> but that requires mcmultipart mod to be installed
L1449[20:40:16] <Z0idburg> I have a request
L1450[20:40:23] <Zef> For a case?
L1451[20:41:12] <Zef> Oh I just remembered I was supposed to work on an ibm ps/2
L1452[20:41:20] <Zef> I don't even think I started that..
L1453[20:41:37] <Izaya> Cute sun is cute
L1454[20:42:10] <Z0idburg> yes I have a request for a case
L1455[20:42:14] <Zef> I think the sun cube is my favorite one
L1456[20:42:23] <Z0idburg> the IBMPs/2 is hilarious know why?
L1457[20:42:34] <Z0idburg> the power switch is not a power switch
L1458[20:42:55] <Z0idburg> it is connected to a metal dowel that goes all the way from the switch in front to the poiwer switch inside the case in the back on the PSU itself
L1459[20:43:03] <Trainfan91> Make This A Case For The Love of GOD HOWARD http://tinyurl.com/y3pf85gp
L1460[20:43:08] <Z0idburg> so when you switch the front panel switch it moves the power switch on and off on the PS/2's PSU
L1461[20:43:10] <Z0idburg> XD
L1462[20:43:30] <Z0idburg> So here's my personal request
L1463[20:44:13] <Z0idburg> I would like a multiblock case modeled out of the components of a Northern Telecom DMS-10 , which my OS is built around
L1464[20:44:29] <Trainfan91> image?
L1465[20:44:37] <Z0idburg> sur eI'll grab a bunch
L1466[20:44:42] <Z0idburg> these are the machines I work with at work
L1467[20:44:58] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/y6sxaejk
L1468[20:45:12] <Trainfan91> either way, my idea is from fallout 4, hence the name
L1469[20:45:14] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/yy2xreyk
L1470[20:45:17] <Z0idburg> this is just one computer
L1471[20:45:20] <Z0idburg> they can be small
L1472[20:45:26] <Zef> Uh
L1473[20:45:27] <Z0idburg> like ythe first one
L1474[20:45:33] <Zef> How the hell would I make that
L1475[20:45:34] <Z0idburg> but I don't ewxpect the one I just pasted ?
L1476[20:45:43] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/y56jw5bj
L1477[20:45:50] <Z0idburg> well the iea is multiblock
L1478[20:45:52] <Z0idburg> 2 meters tall
L1479[20:46:11] <Trainfan91> Zef, is my idea doable at least?
L1480[20:46:13] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/y5qlbec8
L1481[20:46:15] <Zef> At that point it's up to Ben's skill
L1482[20:46:42] <Zef> First up I don't know if all in ones would be possible
L1483[20:46:45] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/y4g9o5x7
L1484[20:46:47] <Z0idburg> Ok that's enogh photos
L1485[20:46:54] <Z0idburg> so yeah this is what a DMS is
L1486[20:47:04] <Zef> Secondly you told me to make it a case at first
L1487[20:47:33] <Z0idburg> These are minicomputes.
L1488[20:47:37] <Z0idburg> minicomputers*
L1489[20:47:45] <Z0idburg> so they're made out of smaller machines
L1490[20:48:11] <Trainfan91> and if you could, PLS give it a tape drive vs floppy; remenber, no floppy's in fallout
L1491[20:48:13] <Z0idburg> IF this isn't feasible, then there's the next best, much more practical request instead:
L1492[20:48:24] <Z0idburg> a vintage IBM 2 meter tall mainframe
L1493[20:48:33] <Zef> I can't give it a tape drive
L1494[20:48:42] <Zef> Also s3 I was planning on it
L1495[20:48:46] <Z0idburg> hehe
L1496[20:49:06] <Zef> If I remember right, the system 360?
L1497[20:49:08] <Z0idburg> But DMS-10 or DMS-100 would be amazing for Trotwood's showcase in the upcoming voidcon this year
L1498[20:49:23] <ben_mkiv> well, we thought about multiblock server racks
L1499[20:49:25] <Z0idburg> because Trotwood's full name is Trotwood DMS
L1500[20:49:31] <Zef> Nope
L1501[20:49:33] <Z0idburg> and I'll be showing it off
L1502[20:49:39] <Zef> Ibm 1401
L1503[20:49:47] <Trainfan91> would a wearable pipboy be too hard?
L1504[20:50:09] <ben_mkiv> that would be just another skin for a tablet, wouldnt it?
L1505[20:50:09] <Zef> Texture pack
L1506[20:50:19] <ben_mkiv> skin/model
L1507[20:50:19] <Trainfan91> WEARABLE
L1508[20:50:23] <Zef> Change tablet texture to pipboy
L1509[20:50:27] <Zef> Profit
L1510[20:50:43] <ben_mkiv> well my other mod allows to add a computer to yourself
L1511[20:50:45] <ben_mkiv> openentity
L1512[20:50:49] <Trainfan91> but what about tape? can't do that on tablet
L1513[20:50:59] <ben_mkiv> could add the fallout thing on your playermodel as feature
L1514[20:51:33] <ben_mkiv> or make it a baubles which activates the feature, hmm
L1515[20:51:44] <Z0idburg> so this is my idea
L1516[20:51:45] <Zef> Tape is not part of opencomputers
L1517[20:51:45] <Trainfan91> make it optional
L1518[20:51:45] <Zef> It's from computronics
L1519[20:51:45] <Zef> And I don't know how ben would feel about adding another dependency just for that
L1520[20:52:36] <Zef> S3 would the ibm 1501 suit what you're looking for?
L1521[20:53:16] <Z0idburg> I think it does, though whil emy laptop ran out of battery it got me thinking
L1522[20:53:48] <Trainfan91> is THIS C64 Doable?? http://tinyurl.com/y6fa3b8c
L1523[20:54:29] <Zef> Probably not cause it's got a keyboard
L1524[20:54:37] <Zef> And could you ask nicer?
L1525[20:54:48] <Izaya> ben_mkiv: I'd totally use a mod that gives me a pipboy or whatever it's called
L1526[20:55:17] <Z0idburg> I understand that my dream of a nortel style case would be out of reach by a bit, though perhaps a multiblock minicomputer collection could be useful. What I mean is this. we have several blocks, and slabs, half a meter and 1 meter tall. You could create decorative slabs that together make just one case. you could have: 1x1x1 meter tape to tape reel, (not functional mind you), card storage, slab RAID SAN, etc
L1527[20:55:20] <CompanionCube> IBM mainframes do have sweet cases
L1528[20:55:22] <ben_mkiv> but openentity does already, without the pp visual
L1529[20:55:25] <ben_mkiv> xD
L1530[20:55:28] <Z0idburg> just decorative blocks that let you stack and build your own minicomputer
L1531[20:55:32] <CompanionCube> especially the modern zs
L1532[20:55:32] <Z0idburg> Doe sthat seem unreasonable?
L1533[20:55:52] <Zef> Well it's up to ben
L1534[20:55:59] <Zef> I'm not the programmer
L1535[20:56:02] <Z0idburg> lol
L1536[20:56:08] <Z0idburg> just throwing ideas
L1537[20:56:10] <CompanionCube> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/e0c474f8-3aad-4f01-8bca-f2c12b576ac9/resource/BLOGS_UPLOADED_IMAGES/ibm-unveils-new-z13s-mainframe_24627171620_o.jpg look at it lol
L1538[20:56:18] <Z0idburg> the mainframe is definitely a good choice.
L1539[20:56:19] <ben_mkiv> https://i.imgur.com/tAbnEG0.png
L1540[20:56:24] <ben_mkiv> like thats a computer on the player
L1541[20:56:25] <Zef> That's not what I meant
L1542[20:56:32] <Zef> Ibm 1501
L1543[20:56:32] <Z0idburg> mainframe would be simple
L1544[20:56:37] <Zef> Old mainframe
L1545[20:57:02] <CompanionCube> also
L1546[20:57:04] <CompanionCube> s/5/4/
L1547[20:57:05] <MichiBot> <Zef> Ibm 1401
L1548[20:57:35] <Zef> Yeah
L1549[20:57:39] <Zef> Messed up
L1550[20:57:40] <Trainfan91> tandy 1000 possible ? http://tinyurl.com/y5hzgcq3
L1551[20:57:56] <Zef> That one's more doable
L1552[20:58:04] <Zef> Now ask again but nicer
L1553[20:58:17] <Trainfan91> please?
L1554[20:58:26] <Zef> Come on you can do better than that
L1555[20:58:53] <Trainfan91> pretty please?
L1556[20:58:58] <Z0idburg> I would rather have an Altair
L1557[20:59:23] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/y5hd6agu
L1558[20:59:23] <Z0idburg> not for my project but
L1559[20:59:28] <Zef> aha
L1560[20:59:29] <Z0idburg> as a case idea for vintage computers
L1561[20:59:32] <Z0idburg> you can't forget that one
L1562[20:59:41] <Zef> I remember when I was obsessed with the Altair
L1563[20:59:48] <Zef> Such a cool computer
L1564[20:59:53] <Z0idburg> have you used them though
L1565[20:59:58] <Z0idburg> they're pretty neat
L1566[21:00:04] <Z0idburg> I've never used a running one
L1567[21:00:07] <Z0idburg> but I've seen them
L1568[21:00:09] <Zef> I really wanted one but just too expensive
L1569[21:00:14] <Z0idburg> or clones of them
L1570[21:00:18] <Zef> Even for a recreation
L1571[21:01:40] <Zef> I think the altair 8800 would look crap in Minecraft unless I used high res textures
L1572[21:01:44] <Z0idburg> IBm system 390 would be fairly easy
L1573[21:01:52] <Z0idburg> well you have slabs
L1574[21:02:27] <Zef> It'd literally just be a slab
L1575[21:02:51] <Z0idburg> what about a bladeserver 1 meter case
L1576[21:02:59] <Zef> Pic?
L1577[21:03:10] <Zef> My internets too slow to look myself
L1578[21:03:11] <Z0idburg> there's many bladeservers out there
L1579[21:03:14] <Z0idburg> ok hold on
L1580[21:03:34] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/y6qxwts8
L1581[21:03:46] <Z0idburg> http://tinyurl.com/y4cxqtyp
L1582[21:04:01] <Z0idburg> they're cases that hold micro server
L1583[21:04:04] <Z0idburg> servers*
L1584[21:04:13] <Z0idburg> probably not a good cause
L1585[21:04:32] <Z0idburg> I mean those are literally more than one computer so not that great for a texture
L1586[21:04:36] <Z0idburg> UNLESS
L1587[21:04:43] <Z0idburg> they held that many OC computers lol
L1588[21:04:52] <Z0idburg> if you did that I would be impressed
L1589[21:05:00] <Zef> Interesting
L1590[21:05:12] <Z0idburg> that point it would be best for Trotwood
L1591[21:05:19] <Z0idburg> because then you'd have one massive resource machine
L1592[21:05:29] <Z0idburg> combined RAM and disk, etc
L1593[21:05:33] <Z0idburg> because my OS does that
L1594[21:05:37] <Z0idburg> but, we have server racks
L1595[21:06:06] <Zef> We were considering multiblock server racks
L1596[21:06:17] <Zef> Bens got lots to do already though
L1597[21:06:36] <Z0idburg> Grueskoph made a server mod thing a while back
L1598[21:06:39] <Z0idburg> or was working on one
L1599[21:06:49] <Z0idburg> with 1Us etc
L1600[21:07:16] <Zef> Link?
L1601[21:07:28] <Z0idburg> I have no idea if he ever posted it
L1602[21:07:50] <Zef> Ah
L1603[21:08:25] <Zef> %tonk
L1604[21:08:26] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Zef, you were not able to beat Z0idburg's record of 1 hour, 31 minutes and 7 seconds this time.
L1605[21:08:27] <MichiBot> 53 minutes and 2 seconds were wasted! Missed by 38 minutes and 5 seconds!
L1606[21:08:43] <Zef> Of course
L1607[21:08:43] <Z0idburg> ...
L1608[21:10:11] <Zef> Do you think trainfan needs to ask again?
L1609[21:10:18] <Zef> Lol
L1610[21:10:22] <Z0idburg> ?
L1611[21:10:44] <Zef> I'm just messing, I added it to my todo list
L1612[21:10:54] <Zef> Just there's nicer ways to ask
L1613[21:11:00] <Trainfan91> also, can i get openos to remember commbands like plan9k does?
L1614[21:11:02] <Z0idburg> Did you see the end of my todo list?
L1615[21:11:20] <Z0idburg> https://github.com/bhodgins/trotwood/blob/master/doc/TODO.txt
L1616[21:11:26] <Z0idburg> at the very end
L1617[21:11:43] <Zef> http://tinyurl.com/y3xgr2mr
L1618[21:12:38] <Zef> The gaming case thing is shit
L1619[21:12:51] <Zef> I rushed it when I made it cause I was anxious
L1620[21:13:03] <Trainfan91> would u also add mabye a steampunk-esque compy?
L1621[21:13:27] <Zef> I'll give it a try
L1622[21:13:32] <Zef> Also
L1623[21:13:45] <Zef> %s/would/could
L1624[21:13:46] <MichiBot> <Trainfan91> could u also add mabye a steampunk-esque compy?
L1625[21:14:17] <Zef> I also have plans to try and make an alien looking case
L1626[21:14:29] <Zef> With a bunch of slants and shit
L1627[21:14:55] <Z0idburg> alienware eh
L1628[21:15:25] <Zef> No!
L1629[21:15:29] <Zef> Not Alienware
L1630[21:15:41] <Zef> Like alien as in otherworldly
L1631[21:17:01] <Z0idburg> This is the song that never ends
L1632[21:17:09] <Z0idburg> it just goes on and on my friends
L1633[21:17:12] <Trainfan91> any1 remember the IBM PC Jr? yeah... me neither, lol http://tinyurl.com/y36ryhsf
L1634[21:17:25] <Z0idburg> Some people, started singing it not knowing what it was.. and then they kept on singing it and singing it because...
L1635[21:17:30] <Zef> I wasn't alive then but I know of it
L1636[21:17:40] <Z0idburg> ROFL
L1637[21:17:43] <Z0idburg> you know what
L1638[21:17:46] <Zef> If I remember right it was aimed at education
L1639[21:17:51] <Z0idburg> uh
L1640[21:17:58] <Z0idburg> sure we'll go with that
L1641[21:17:58] <Zef> Maybe?
L1642[21:18:01] <Zef> Lol
L1643[21:18:08] <Zef> No what one was it
L1644[21:18:09] <Trainfan91> it could play king's quest 1
L1645[21:18:14] <Trainfan91> i think?
L1646[21:18:26] <Zef> Was it even ibm
L1647[21:18:33] <Z0idburg> i outgrew that TV show before the ladywho did it died
L1648[21:18:56] <Z0idburg> I don't even remember how the show really went
L1649[21:20:05] <Trainfan91> If only it were THAT EASY... http://tinyurl.com/y42rd6sh
L1650[21:22:11] <Trainfan91> also, can openos allow persistence of command history between reboots?
L1651[21:22:19] <Z0idburg> So I just have to say
L1652[21:22:26] <Z0idburg> back when lamchop was a thing
L1653[21:22:37] <Zef> Isn't plan9k depreciated?
L1654[21:22:40] <Z0idburg> educational TV shows were not like todays educational tv shows
L1655[21:22:52] <Z0idburg> today educational tv shows are really F****** STUPID
L1656[21:23:26] <Trainfan91> that's the ONE MAJOR advantage plan9k had...
L1657[21:23:44] <Zef> Why would you need command persistence?
L1658[21:24:03] <Zef> Like what are you doing that requires that many commands to be remembered
L1659[21:24:56] <Trainfan91> linux has it, can't be that hard; just make queue and purge oldest ones after so many
L1660[21:25:06] <Z0idburg> If I had kids I wouldn't let them watch half the educational shit they have on TV these days
L1661[21:25:14] <Z0idburg> it's really creepy and retarded
L1662[21:25:27] <Zef> Inb4 "todays kids have it easy!"
L1663[21:26:37] <Z0idburg> I think shit started going downhill bout the time Telletubbies came out
L1664[21:26:53] <Trainfan91> WHAT WERE THEY SMOKING?? http://tinyurl.com/yypnskyv
L1665[21:26:59] <Z0idburg> by the time that show died out it was too late
L1666[21:27:00] <Zef> I think the major thing is education shows nowadays are aimed at younger children
L1667[21:27:09] <Zef> Like 1-4 maybe 5
L1668[21:28:05] <Z0idburg> Have you seen the new inspector gadget?
L1669[21:28:08] <Z0idburg> the 3D one
L1670[21:28:08] <Zef> "educational" it's more of just entertainment that has a small chance to teach them something
L1671[21:28:10] <Zef> No
L1672[21:28:14] <Zef> And I don't even need to
L1673[21:28:17] <Z0idburg> oh it's AWFUL
L1674[21:28:21] <Z0idburg> they RUINED EVERYTHING
L1675[21:28:27] <Trainfan91> also, homestarrunner.com was originally a parady of the idea
L1676[21:28:29] <Zef> No plans to ever have children so it's not like it even matters to me
L1677[21:28:31] <Z0idburg> its all about "feelings" and shit now
L1678[21:28:50] <Zef> And by feelings?
L1679[21:28:57] <Z0idburg> You know what I mean
L1680[21:29:10] <Zef> Do I?
L1681[21:29:15] <Trainfan91> emotions?
L1682[21:29:16] <Z0idburg> when shows try to teach life lessons and that it's okay to be sensitive
L1683[21:29:31] <Zef> Inb4 toughen up
L1684[21:29:44] <Z0idburg> it promotes special snowflakes
L1685[21:29:50] <Zef> There it is
L1686[21:29:56] <Z0idburg> a world where everybody thinks they're special
L1687[21:29:59] <Zef> I was waiting for that word
L1688[21:30:02] <Zef> Lol
L1689[21:30:36] <Trainfan91> south park taught us we need to laugh even during the worst times... lol
L1690[21:31:28] <Trainfan91> lest we forget osama bin laden has farty pants
L1691[21:31:41] <Zef> How dare children get tought life lessons at like 3
L1692[21:32:16] <Zef> They should learn to toughen up and never show emotion at all through their lives resulting in depression and unrational fear of expressing their feelings
L1693[21:32:18] <Z0idburg> put them to work
L1694[21:32:24] <Z0idburg> that's where they learn shit
L1695[21:32:38] <Trainfan91> the only lession i learned is that all toasters toast toast!
L1696[21:32:56] <Z0idburg> I remember when my sister was like barely 4
L1697[21:33:08] <Z0idburg> and she learned real quick that if you spill something
L1698[21:33:10] <Z0idburg> you clean that shit up
L1699[21:33:20] <Z0idburg> now I see parents do it for their 4 year olds
L1700[21:33:31] <Z0idburg> they think their kids are stupid or something
L1701[21:33:38] <Trainfan91> i actually used to stare at spilled water
L1702[21:33:55] <Zef> There's a line to walk
L1703[21:34:40] <Zef> Between the fuck these kids make them do everything and actually having compassion
L1704[21:35:03] <Trainfan91> again, south park...
L1705[21:35:25] <Zef> South park is a comedy
L1706[21:35:50] <Trainfan91> but is adult education...
L1707[21:35:54] <Z0idburg> Oh yeah
L1708[21:35:57] <Z0idburg> that's another thing
L1709[21:36:03] <Z0idburg> I'm not claiming anything against you
L1710[21:36:17] <Z0idburg> but apparently mosyt people today don't know what a comedy actually is
L1711[21:36:56] <Zef> Fine it's an animated sitcom apparently
L1712[21:37:01] <Zef> That heavily features humor
L1713[21:37:05] <Trainfan91> ppl in arab-speaking countries love jeff dunham...
L1714[21:37:09] <Z0idburg> see that's not actually true
L1715[21:37:17] <Z0idburg> if you go back a thousand years
L1716[21:37:30] <Trainfan91> FLEENSTONES?!!?!?!!
L1717[21:37:33] <Z0idburg> you will find that a comedy is actually a story that "resolves" at its end
L1718[21:37:37] <Z0idburg> I'll giv ean example
L1719[21:37:44] <Z0idburg> and it makes sense when you think about it
L1720[21:38:00] <Zef> Look
L1721[21:38:04] <Z0idburg> you watch a movie lets say where the whole world is fun and dandy
L1722[21:38:09] <Zef> That's 1000 years ago
L1723[21:38:13] <Z0idburg> then it almost gets destroyed but you save it
L1724[21:38:19] <Zef> Words change don't they?
L1725[21:38:20] <Z0idburg> and everything works out in the end
L1726[21:38:25] <Z0idburg> that's what a comedy is
L1727[21:38:32] <Z0idburg> Dante's Inferno is a comedy
L1728[21:38:36] <Zef> "In a modern sense, comedy (from the Greek: κωμῳδία, kōmōidía) refers to any discourse or work generally intended to be humorous or amusing by inducing laughter, especially in theatre, television, film, stand-up comedy, or any other medium of entertainment."
L1729[21:38:36] <Trainfan91> BUT WAR NEVER CHANGES...
L1730[21:38:50] <Z0idburg> Yes
L1731[21:39:07] <Z0idburg> and this is because comedy's are often funny so people incorrectly assumed that they are funny
L1732[21:39:17] <Z0idburg> people don't care about where it actually comes from
L1733[21:39:22] <Z0idburg> and then people become mislead
L1734[21:39:32] <Z0idburg> and the definition somehow "changes" mistakenly
L1735[21:39:36] <Zef> The word has evolved to mean humor
L1736[21:39:37] <Z0idburg> and people accept that as the correct term
L1737[21:39:43] <Zef> Jesus
L1738[21:40:00] <Zef> Do you write in old English then?
L1739[21:40:01] <Z0idburg> this is true with a lot of things
L1740[21:40:07] <Z0idburg> no
L1741[21:40:15] <Zef> The language changed over time
L1742[21:40:18] <Z0idburg> But I do fear the overmorrow
L1743[21:40:38] <Zef> It came from many different languages
L1744[21:41:03] <Trainfan91> is it fair to say every major war boils down to "Hey! You're not me!"
L1745[21:41:12] <Z0idburg> It's okay for languages to evolve, but it's stupid to redefine things already defined because some idiots back a while ago didn't know what it actually meant
L1746[21:41:19] <Z0idburg> just come up with a new word
L1747[21:41:21] <Z0idburg> don't use the same ones
L1748[21:41:30] <Zef> It's not that one person decided it
L1749[21:41:35] <Z0idburg> no its not
L1750[21:41:38] <Z0idburg> its the bandwagon effect
L1751[21:41:46] <Trainfan91> here's my word: gi[whret,rqg]qemi[reqwgmrqe 8rvmq]hver[g8m]niqd'gfedg v]gqmi]wvimfegw
L1752[21:41:50] <Z0idburg> everybody joins in it must be "correct"
L1753[21:42:02] <Z0idburg> that's a really shitty and stupid way to go about things
L1754[21:42:32] <Z0idburg> Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.
L1755[21:42:37] <Zef> So would you rather the language never ever change at all
L1756[21:42:39] <Z0idburg> For they will change the world.
L1757[21:43:04] <Zef> All changes form because of the "band wagon" effect
L1758[21:43:12] <Z0idburg> The language can change, don't fuck up words that already exist for previous meanings
L1759[21:43:22] <Z0idburg> make up new words and be intelligent about it
L1760[21:43:27] <Zef> I don't think it would've happened overnight
L1761[21:43:33] <Z0idburg> it didn't
L1762[21:43:43] <Zef> Like over a hundred years referring to plays
L1763[21:44:00] <Zef> "oh it's like a comedy" turns into it is a comedy
L1764[21:44:02] <Z0idburg> but at some point you look back and realize, a lot of damage has been done to history
L1765[21:44:13] <Zef> What's the damage?
L1766[21:44:15] <Z0idburg> so when people actually look at historical documents and they translate them wrong
L1767[21:44:22] <Z0idburg> and people get confused af
L1768[21:44:31] <Zef> Is there any modern "comedies" then?
L1769[21:44:38] <Z0idburg> Of course
L1770[21:44:46] <Z0idburg> the majority of everything is a comedy
L1771[21:44:51] <Z0idburg> by traditional definition
L1772[21:44:52] <Zef> Exactly
L1773[21:45:01] <Zef> So it's a meaningless word in that case
L1774[21:45:13] <Z0idburg> not precisely
L1775[21:45:17] <Zef> It'd just be a synonym for story
L1776[21:45:21] <Z0idburg> there's still plenty of non comedic literature
L1777[21:46:14] <Zef> %tonk
L1778[21:46:14] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Zef, you were not able to beat Z0idburg's record of 1 hour, 31 minutes and 7 seconds this time.
L1779[21:46:15] <MichiBot> 37 minutes and 47 seconds were wasted! Missed by 53 minutes and 19 seconds!
L1780[21:46:21] <Zef> Fuck
L1781[21:46:28] <Z0idburg> lol
L1782[21:46:38] <Z0idburg> you did worse this time
L1783[21:46:53] <Zef> %tonkleaders
L1784[21:46:54] <MichiBot> Zef: https://michibot.pc-logix.com/tonk
L1785[21:47:20] <Zef> You aren't even on this list
L1786[21:49:29] <Z0idburg> No because I don't tonk out
L1787[21:59:59] <Z0idburg> People are so dumb
L1788[22:00:07] <Zef> You're telling me
L1789[22:00:29] <Z0idburg> my other half is watching a live stream of earth from th espace station right now
L1790[22:00:32] <Z0idburg> it has background music
L1791[22:00:48] <Z0idburg> some asshat said "please turn off the music" on the chat
L1792[22:01:05] <Z0idburg> ... no, you turn your video audio off, idiot.
L1793[22:05:43] <Kleadron> steam finally "stopped" working on xp
L1794[22:05:54] <Kleadron> steamui.dll throws an error now
L1795[22:06:06] <Kleadron> but i fixed the issue by copying an older version of steam to my xp computer
L1796[22:06:25] <Kleadron> the older version runs completely fine
L1797[22:08:33] <Z0idburg> lol
L1798[22:08:44] <Z0idburg> stop using XP
L1799[22:08:47] <Z0idburg> it was a shitty system
L1800[22:25:59] <Trainfan91> @Z0idburg how would i make a program return to shell on say ctrl+x?
L1801[22:27:24] <ben_mkiv> @trainfan91 https://hastebin.com/tudicunaxe.sql
L1802[22:27:56] <ben_mkiv> then you can close it with CTRL + C
L1803[22:28:25] <Trainfan91> ok, ty
L1804[22:30:44] <Trainfan91> where do i place it?
L1805[22:31:01] <Trainfan91> in the script i mean
L1806[22:31:48] <ben_mkiv> what?
L1807[22:32:03] <ben_mkiv> the event listen has to be before you start doing stuff
L1808[22:32:15] <ben_mkiv> when you press ctrl + c it will execute the stop function
L1809[22:45:09] <Dudblockman> I recall crunch still working...
L1810[22:45:14] <Dudblockman> Did I break it
L1811[22:45:17] <Dudblockman> http://tinyurl.com/yy3c9t47
L1812[22:46:18] <Dudblockman> This is using https://github.com/OpenPrograms/mpmxyz-Programs/tree/master off Open Programs
L1813[22:46:28] <Trainfan91> the program disabels keyboard input until it is finished
L1814[22:47:49] <Dudblockman> IIRC Ctrl + Alt + C is a hard interrupt
L1815[22:48:53] <Dudblockman> Ctrl + C asks your program to stop running nicely
L1816[22:48:54] <Trainfan91> ty
L1817[22:49:10] <Dudblockman> If you didn't specifically code it to listen for the polite way...
L1818[22:50:36] ⇦ Quits: ben_mkiv (ben_mkiv!~ben_mkiv@i577BC4CB.versanet.de) (Remote host closed the connection)
L1819[22:52:15] <Dudblockman> Yeah idk why crunch isn't working
L1820[22:52:17] <Dudblockman> oof
L1821[23:06:18] <Izaya> Last I tried it didn't work
L1822[23:06:38] <Izaya> You can use the one in the minitel repo if you don't mind it potentially mangling your code
L1823[23:06:54] <Izaya> It's a feature™
L1824[23:22:24] ⇦ Quits: Thutmose (Thutmose!~Patrick@host-69-59-79-181.nctv.com) (Quit: Leaving.)
L1825[23:46:34] <Dudblockman> Aha!
L1826[23:46:53] <Dudblockman> I was getting tired of reflashing this EEPROM in testing
L1827[23:47:34] <Dudblockman> So I wrote a short program that detects when I have inserted an EEPROM, checks if the name of the EEPROM matches that of a file in the home directory
L1828[23:47:58] <Dudblockman> If the file exists, crunch the file and then upload the crunched version of the file to the EEPROM
L1829[23:50:37] <Temia> Nice
L1830[23:51:28] <Dudblockman> Peak efficiency... and laziness
L1831[23:51:35] <Dudblockman> Sounds like an engineer
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