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L1[03:21:10] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L2[03:21:11] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Kodos's record of 17 hours and 40 minutes this time.
L3[03:21:12] <MichiBot> 15 hours, 57 minutes and 52 seconds were wasted!
L4[03:21:19] <CompanionCube> goddammit
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L11[08:17:45] <ZefTheFox> Somebody tried telling me that plan 9 looked like old windows, even saying that it *is* old windows
L12[08:17:59] <ZefTheFox> So I responded with pictures of every windows version
L13[08:33:41] <Izaya> Plan 9 has much better colour choices
L14[08:44:58] <ZefTheFox> "still, if it is even a bit graphical, it is has one button or line or image, it is old Windows"
L15[08:45:01] <ZefTheFox> What
L16[08:46:13] <ZefTheFox> "my point is that, if it it graphical it is Windows, if it is a sandbox game, it is a Minecraft clone and if vegan fokd is good, it is vegan meat"
L17[08:51:00] <Forecaster> so dos is not windows? :P
L18[08:52:00] <ZefTheFox> ~~iswearifyoureserious~~
L19[08:52:22] <Forecaster> according to that reasoning, it's not graphical
L20[08:52:28] <Forecaster> so it's not windows
L21[08:55:42] <ZefTheFox> It's not windows though
L22[08:56:00] <ZefTheFox> Windows originally went on top of dos
L23[09:00:08] <Compu> all the way up until windows 2000 windows was always DOS based tho
L24[09:00:42] <Compu> ie it was DOS underneath with windows still running on top, but instead of having to install windows separately and start it manually windows started automatically
L25[09:02:12] <Compu> ie it was DOS underneath with windows still running on top, but instead of having to install windows separately and start it manually, windows started automatically [Edited]
L26[09:07:09] <ZefTheFox> Dos 7
L27[09:13:25] <Compu> yeah that came with DOS 7 underneath
L28[09:13:48] <Compu> windows ME had DOS 8
L29[09:14:16] <ZefTheFox> Really?
L30[09:14:27] <ZefTheFox> I swear dos 7 was the last one
L31[09:16:26] <Compu> nope ME had DOS 8
L32[09:16:44] <Compu> u just couldn't boot the underlying DOS without modifying the OS a bit
L33[09:17:12] <Compu> oh and windows 98 also had DOS 8
L34[09:17:14] <Collateral_Damage_Man> At that point in my life all I knew how to do was start Space Cadet 2000
L35[09:19:06] <Wuerfel_21> `u just couldn't boot the underlying DOS without modifying the OS a bit` uhm you can? In the config window for DOS shortcuts, you can set it to reboot into pure DOS instead of using a DOS box. Do that for COMMAND.COM and voila! you're in DOS
L36[09:19:45] <Wuerfel_21> and if you don't properly shut down the DOS, it will boot into DOS again the next time you turn on the PC
L37[09:20:05] <Compu> in windows ME
L38[09:20:52] <Wuerfel_21> in 98, but I think ME has that feature, too
L39[09:20:56] <Compu> nope
L40[09:21:00] <Compu> ME removed that feature
L41[09:21:01] <Wuerfel_21> in 98 and 95, but I think ME has that feature, too [Edited]
L42[09:21:07] <Wuerfel_21> lolwut
L43[09:21:11] <Compu> but it can be added in again by editing registry keys
L44[09:22:24] <ZefTheFox> Well I have windows 98 installed on the computer right next to me
L45[09:23:02] <Compu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlhISICHlYo
L46[09:23:04] <MichiBot> Getting MS-DOS mode back in Windows Millennium! | length: 3m 45s | Likes: 544 Dislikes: 30 Views: 15,749 | by Enderman | Published On 29/11/2018
L47[09:24:34] <ZefTheFox> ://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/520984022650847287/20181208_102402.jpg http://tinyurl.com/y9v4c2lc&lt;ZefTheFox> ://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/520984022650847287/20181208_102402.jpg http://tinyurl.com/y7lmgbdy&lt;ZefTheFox> ://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125649403162656768/520984022650847287/20181208_102402.jpg http://tinyurl.com/yaa4ftov
L48[09:24:51] <Compu> yeah windows 98 was the last windows OS to have that feature
L49[09:25:14] <ZefTheFox> Well the dos prompt doesn't give a version
L50[09:25:21] <ZefTheFox> and why'd bother updating the dos for an os?
L51[09:25:56] <Compu> because in the DOS based windows versions some features required the underlying DOS to have support for them
L52[09:26:05] <Compu> ie more memory, larger filesystems, etc
L53[09:26:21] <ZefTheFox> yeah
L54[09:26:23] <ZefTheFox> makes sense
L55[09:27:02] <Wuerfel_21> oddly enough, LFN support is actually not part of an updated DOS
L56[09:27:05] <Compu> anyways i don't have any physical machines running windows 98
L57[09:27:08] <Compu> only VMs
L58[09:27:17] <ZefTheFox> Well me and my friend built this one
L59[09:27:32] <ZefTheFox> except the graphics card has some issues so we need to get a replacement
L60[09:28:30] <Compu> https://i.imgur.com/ngcXuDy.png
L61[09:29:11] <Compu> theres a fix that u gotta do to it so it can handle the higher CPU clock speeds but it's not difficult
L62[09:29:56] <Compu> audio works great too, no crackles or pops or anything
L63[09:30:11] <Compu> the only thing is, in virtualbox u don't get any MIDI support
L64[09:30:17] <Compu> but that's what dosbox is for
L65[09:30:58] <Compu> https://i.imgur.com/J5rAdUX.png
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L67[09:55:33] <Izaya> %remindme 12h try hurd
L68[09:55:33] <MichiBot> I'll remind you about "try hurd" at 12/08/2018 09:55:33 PM
L69[09:57:48] <Izaya> Welcome to the Gnu world.
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L71[10:07:07] <herpaderpablerp> I have to say, running an IRC program inside a computer running inside a video game is pretty crazy :P
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L74[11:16:42] <FLORANA> is there a travel limit to lan data?
L75[11:17:06] <FLORANA> if so do i need a relay like every 12 blocks or so?
L76[11:17:09] <FLORANA> *20
L77[11:19:10] <ZefTheFox> What do you mean by lan?
L78[11:19:15] <Forecaster> you mean range?
L79[11:19:16] <Forecaster> no
L80[11:19:28] <FLORANA> wired 'networking card'
L81[11:19:37] <ZefTheFox> No, you don't
L82[11:19:54] <ZefTheFox> I'm almost certain it doesn't have a limit on range as long as cables connect it
L83[11:19:57] <FLORANA> cuz i sent a message and never recived it on the other end
L84[11:20:02] <FLORANA> both are on the same port
L85[11:20:05] <ZefTheFox> You have to open a channel
L86[11:20:23] <FLORANA> they are on the same port
L87[11:20:34] <FLORANA> well channel or whatever you call it
L88[11:20:47] <Forecaster> you only have to open the port on the receiving end, as a side note
L89[11:20:52] <FLORANA> it worked when i was closr
L90[11:20:55] <Forecaster> but chunks have to be loaded between them
L91[11:20:57] <FLORANA> it worked when i was closer [Edited]
L92[11:21:11] <Compu> how close
L93[11:21:18] <FLORANA> cuz OC computers keeps the chunks loaded right?
L94[11:21:27] <Forecaster> the cables too I think
L95[11:21:48] <Forecaster> no, the computers do not chunkload anything
L96[11:22:08] <FLORANA> the first computer i had was 6 chunks away from the reciever and it worked
L97[11:22:30] <FLORANA> and this one is 14 chunks away and failed
L98[11:22:34] <Compu> if it's really that far a linked card might be more viable
L99[11:23:17] <Compu> a linked card works over any distance and also across dimensions
L100[11:23:34] <Compu> but it also uses more energy than a network card
L101[11:23:45] <FLORANA> yah i was just wondering
L102[11:23:51] <Forecaster> you have to make sure both ends and the cables are loaded
L103[11:24:03] <FLORANA> thoese are kinda expenive if you don't have EMC XD
L104[11:24:04] <Forecaster> otherwise I don't know why it'd suddenly not work
L105[11:24:15] <FLORANA> well ProjectE i should say
L106[11:24:45] <ZefTheFox> 14 chunks
L107[11:24:49] <ZefTheFox> check your render distance
L108[11:24:55] <FLORANA> 32 chunks
L109[11:24:59] <FLORANA> SinglePLayer
L110[11:25:02] <Compu> i just use AE2 stuff to autocraft pretty much everything
L111[11:25:08] <ZefTheFox> odd maybe oc has a limit on that
L112[11:25:19] <ZefTheFox> linked cards might be more usable like compu said
L113[11:25:22] <Compu> the server limits render distance
L114[11:25:57] <Compu> u should check the render distance limit on the server side
L115[11:26:08] <FLORANA> do relays give a redstone signal with comparitors?
L116[11:28:35] <Compu> why do u need the signal to go this far anyways?
L117[11:28:38] <ZefTheFox> Would you mind showing the code?
L118[11:28:52] <ZefTheFox> On pastebin
L119[11:28:56] <FLORANA> theres bearly eny code
L120[11:29:07] <ZefTheFox> alright then
L121[11:29:10] <ZefTheFox> show it here then
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L123[11:30:04] <FLORANA> just `=event.pull("modem_message")` on one side and `modem.broadcast(12,"test")` (again 12 is open for both sides)
L124[11:30:28] <ZefTheFox> So you're typing this in the lua terminal?
L125[11:30:34] <FLORANA> yes
L126[11:30:38] <ZefTheFox> It might close the port
L127[11:30:44] <Forecaster> no
L128[11:30:49] <Forecaster> it remains open until restart
L129[11:30:50] <Compu> did u open the port on the receiver?
L130[11:31:09] <Compu> hmm
L131[11:31:21] <Forecaster> it's opened in the card, not in the context of the lua prompt
L132[11:31:32] <FLORANA> ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!
L133[11:31:43] <ZefTheFox> No need to turn on caps lock
L134[11:31:45] <Compu> uh
L135[11:31:45] <FLORANA> 1 cable was missing from a turn
L136[11:31:52] <Compu> lol
L137[11:31:57] <ZefTheFox> niiiiiceee
L138[11:31:58] <Compu> that'll do it
L139[11:32:17] <Compu> what is this for tho?
L140[11:33:54] <FLORANA> nothing just testing
L141[11:34:25] <FLORANA> altho is there a limit to how meny relays you can have?
L142[11:35:08] <FLORANA> cuz i have 7 and it's not reatching to the 6th one
L143[11:35:25] <FLORANA> and it's litteraly right next to the 5th one
L144[11:37:02] <ZefTheFox> You shouldn't need relays very much
L145[11:37:31] <ZefTheFox> "The Relay allows connecting different networks to each other. Only network messages will be passed along, components will not be visible through this. Use this to separate networks while still allowing communication using Network Cards. "
L146[11:37:40] <ZefTheFox> "The Relay block also serves as a ComputerCraft peripheral, providing an interface imitating that of ComputerCraft's (wired) modems"
L147[11:38:20] <Compu> yeah it's not meant as a repeater
L148[11:38:53] <Compu> it's just to keep networks isolated so a computer on one side doesn't end up using a screen on the other side
L149[11:39:59] * Izaya boredly wonders about having a component whitelist as part of a BIOS
L150[11:41:31] <Izaya> Specify the basics, what that terminal needs to boot and run, then only access specified components
L151[11:42:41] <ZefTheFox> So I'm installing windows 7 in a vm to do some testing
L152[11:42:59] <ZefTheFox> To dual boot with 10 to make sure 10 isn't an asshole and overrides stuff
L153[11:43:19] <ZefTheFox> *because thats what happened with my factory default windows 8 install*
L154[11:44:52] <Compu> 10 is an asshole and overrides stuff
L155[11:45:16] <ZefTheFox> I know, but I need it installed to use windows mixed reality
L156[11:45:20] <Compu> it also breaks linux installs sometimes too, even linux installs that r on their own disks
L157[11:45:28] <ZefTheFox> Like it *merged* itself with windows 8
L158[11:45:42] <ZefTheFox> I installed it on a second drive and it overrode a ton of stuff from 8
L159[11:45:52] <ZefTheFox> Like the start menu was blank in 8
L160[11:46:03] <Compu> lol
L161[11:53:48] <ZefTheFox> Oh yeah, windows 10 is atrociously slow in vms
L162[11:55:17] <Compu> can't wait for steam proton to really get rolling
L163[12:00:02] <Wuerfel_21> INB4 Linux-exclusive Half Life 3
L164[12:00:38] <Compu> lol that would certainly deal a blow to windows
L165[12:09:18] <Izaya> h-hey
L166[12:09:32] <Izaya> haiku has photoshop
L167[12:09:34] <Izaya> https://0x0.st/sDuS.png
L168[12:11:02] <Compu> lol dosbox
L169[12:13:20] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/y9xw7rsk
L170[12:13:25] <ZefTheFox> I really enjoy how old this icon is
L171[12:14:46] <MichiBot> Lizzy REMINDER: switch up nginx config for oc forums to bind to new addresses
L172[12:14:56] <Lizzy> Thanks MichiBot
L173[12:52:02] <ZefTheFox> So my computer won't boot if there's a usb plugged in
L174[13:24:19] <payonel> @florana fwiw, dmesg is helpful when testing signals as well
L175[13:28:43] <ZefTheFox> https://imgur.com/eIECymj
L176[13:28:46] <ZefTheFox> have an adorable otter
L177[13:57:20] <AmandaC> %roll 1d2
L178[13:57:21] <MichiBot> AmandaC: [1]
L179[14:00:56] <Forecaster> crit fail!
L180[14:11:08] <ZefTheFox> %roll 1d1
L181[14:11:09] <MichiBot> ZefTheFox: [1]
L182[14:11:15] <ZefTheFox> wow
L183[14:11:28] <ZefTheFox> I rolled a ball
L184[14:16:21] <Forecaster> or you flipped a coin with identical faces :D
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L186[14:18:09] <AmandaC> @Forecaster how exactly does a crit fail work for selecting which of two boooks to read first?
L187[14:18:43] <Forecaster> I dunno
L188[14:18:53] <Forecaster> I didn't know what you were doing
L189[14:19:07] <AmandaC> usually me rolling a dice is picking which book to read
L190[14:20:03] <Forecaster> I had no way of knowing that, and I still don't know how that'd work :P
L191[14:20:06] <Forecaster> pizza time!
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L193[14:20:31] <AmandaC> Easy, my ereader has a list of recently added books on the front page. the number is how manu from the left (newest) to read.
L194[14:20:40] <AmandaC> ( recently added to the ereader )
L195[14:23:38] <Forecaster> Still have no way of knowing that as you're well aware :P
L196[14:23:59] <AmandaC> Well, that's why I'm telling you.
L197[14:25:39] <AmandaC> My lines are meant to be informative, not accusatory
L198[14:27:16] <AmandaC> %choose play or halucinate
L199[14:27:16] <MichiBot> AmandaC: If I've learned anything in life it's that you always pick play
L200[14:46:43] <Inari> https://github.com/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
L201[15:00:04] <AmandaC> Inari: O.o
L202[15:00:13] <AmandaC> where the hell do you find these weird things?
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L204[15:40:02] <Inari> AmandaC: Discord
L205[15:51:09] <Inari> This Katamari Switch demo is terrible
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L207[16:18:45] <AmandaC> Inari: there's a demo out?
L208[16:20:01] <Inari> AmandaC: Yeah
L209[16:20:51] <AmandaC> payonel: any ideas for where to look in seeing why a YNot connection isn't being re-established, but only with a server rack? All my components disappear from my server rack containing a computer, and I'm frankly stumped about what else to do. I thought it might be related to me not saving the node's data, but making it get saved didn't seem to fix it, or do much of anything.
L210[16:21:06] <AmandaC> s/disappear/disappear on reload/
L211[16:21:07] <MichiBot> Message too long to send to channel https://paste.pc-logix.com/ufoqisugom
L212[16:27:38] <payonel> AmandaC: so your rack is losing all the blades?
L213[16:27:38] <payonel> %ping
L214[16:27:40] <MichiBot> Ping reply from payonel 0.97s
L215[16:27:59] <AmandaC> payonel: no, the blades lose all their external components.
L216[16:28:31] <payonel> and only when you have _what_ connected on the network
L217[16:29:23] <AmandaC> payonel: I've only noticed it with the rack losing it's components on re-load, not sure if it's because of any specific external component.
L218[16:29:38] <payonel> what is a YNot connection?
L219[16:29:49] <AmandaC> OC cable via XNet
L220[16:30:05] <AmandaC> ( using asie's mod YNot, which I coded the basics of an OC connection through )
L221[16:30:14] <AmandaC> This contains most of the OC-specific logic: https://github.com/asiekierka/YNot/blob/master/src/main/java/pl/asie/ynot/oc/OCChannelSettings.java#L45-L106
L222[16:30:42] <payonel> so are you saying that when there is a ynot connected to a rack, on reload the rack's blades lose components?
L223[16:30:48] <AmandaC> yeah
L224[16:30:57] <payonel> likely an exception is thrown
L225[16:31:02] <payonel> and when that happens, we dump it all
L226[16:31:07] <payonel> which i dont like, but, it is what it is
L227[16:31:11] <AmandaC> I've not seen anything in the logs?
L228[16:31:26] <payonel> that is unexpected (lack of data in logs)
L229[16:31:42] <payonel> but that's how you lose components on load
L230[16:31:49] <payonel> i.e. an exception
L231[16:32:32] <payonel> maybe put your methods (on the ynot) in try+catches, and see if it throws on load
L232[16:34:04] <AmandaC> This appears in the log on load: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/mk0d2J3L/
L233[16:34:41] <payonel> yeah, i bet there's some exception just before that
L234[16:35:00] <payonel> it could be on save, sure, but in my personal experience, it is on load
L235[16:35:42] <payonel> AmandaC: i'm going on vacation (out of country) and won't have internets at all for about a week
L236[16:35:55] <payonel> i'll probably be cut off from the world some time mid tomorrow
L237[16:36:04] <payonel> anyways, afk for now
L238[16:43:21] <AmandaC> payonel: ... Just found what's probably wrong.
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L242[18:36:05] <Mimiru> "hello, i'm in need of a programmer to make the code for my mod, and i decided to choose you. if you want to know what the mod is about, then check out this discord server. the discord server is for my mc server, but i'll be waiting for your reply there."
L243[18:36:06] <Mimiru> ._.
L244[18:36:09] <Mimiru> I'
L245[18:36:15] <Mimiru> I'm gonna go with no...
L246[18:37:42] <Wuerfel_21> lol
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L248[18:42:48] <ZefTheFox> "hey I have a cool idea for a thing but you should do the thing and give me all the credit"
L249[18:45:48] <MGR> Pikachu, I choose you! (To mod for me)
L250[18:48:50] <Z0idburg> well
L251[18:51:55] <Z0idburg> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
L252[18:53:52] <Z0idburg> Mimiru, what next? "Hello, you have several allegations for your arrest if you do not pay us 100 bitcoin immediately because you ar ebehind your modding taxes"
L253[19:09:19] <AmandaC> okay, yeah, I'm completely out of ideas
L254[19:10:07] <AmandaC> I don't understand why I can't reproduce this bug.
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L257[19:25:27] <AmandaC> oh well, I'm done skull-walling now, going to unplug and lose myself in a book I guess
L258[19:38:42] <ZefTheFox> I can't believe it's december already
L259[19:38:50] <ZefTheFox> I'm not even used to writing 2018!
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L261[20:25:08] <AmandaC> I can't believe it's the same year. 2018 feels like it's gone on for several years now
L262[20:32:51] <ZefTheFox> like actually
L263[20:33:00] <ZefTheFox> its both at the same time
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L265[21:31:20] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/y9a4uorj
L266[21:31:25] <ZefTheFox> I just love windows 10
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L268[21:55:34] <MichiBot> Izaya REMINDER: try hurd
L269[21:56:53] <ZefTheFox> Yeah Izaya!
L270[23:35:54] <Kodos> %tonk
L271[23:35:54] <Mimiru> %p
L272[23:35:55] <MichiBot> You still hold the record Kodos, for now... 17 hours and 40 minutes
L273[23:35:56] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mimiru 0.76s
L274[23:36:13] <Kodos> Ah, can't beat your own record anymore?
L275[23:36:27] <Mimiru> %tonk
L276[23:36:28] <MichiBot> Mimiru! You beat Kodos's previous record of 17 hours and 40 minutes! I hope you're happy!
L277[23:36:29] <MichiBot> Mimiru's new record is 20 hours, 15 minutes and 16 seconds
L278[23:36:32] <Mimiru> nope
L279[23:36:38] <Kodos> That's imba ?
L280[23:37:17] <Mimiru> Thanks for reminding me to tonk though :P
L281[23:37:22] <Kodos> ?
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