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L2[01:16:50] <Forecaster> %tonk
L3[01:16:50] <MichiBot> Forecaster! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 1 hour, 26 minutes and 24 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L4[01:16:51] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 1 hour, 40 minutes and 48 seconds
L5[02:02:51] <Forecaster> hm
L6[02:03:39] <Forecaster> maybe I should make it so the first one to exceed a weeks worth of time gets a point on a leaderboard, and then it resets to zero, with that person as the starting point (instead of having to do the "first tonk")
L7[02:06:47] <CompanionCube> eh, there's no need for a leaderboard
L8[02:07:04] <CompanionCube> just wrap to zero after a few days
L9[02:10:02] <Forecaster> there's no need for the command at all :P
L10[02:37:18] <Lizzian> ~oc gpu
L11[02:37:18] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
L12[02:56:03] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq9ghmgqoyc
L13[02:56:04] <MichiBot> Guinea Pig Bridge at the Nagasaki Bio Park - song by Parry Gripp | length: 55s | Likes: 37,985 Dislikes: 1,286 Views: 5,965,371 | by ParryGripp | Published On 16/3/2015
L14[03:01:09] <Kodos> %tonk
L15[03:01:09] <MichiBot> You got the first Tonk Kodos, but this is only the beginning.
L16[03:01:14] <Kodos> Oh
L17[03:01:17] <Kodos> RIP
L18[03:03:00] <Lizzian> %tonk
L19[03:03:03] <MichiBot> Lizzian! You beat Kodos's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L20[03:03:04] <MichiBot> Lizzian's new record is 1 minute and 53 seconds
L21[03:08:27] <Kodos> %tonk
L22[03:08:29] <MichiBot> Kodos! You beat Lizzian's previous record of 1 minute and 53 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L23[03:08:30] <MichiBot> Kodos's new record is 5 minutes and 25 seconds
L24[03:15:30] <Izaya> %tonk
L25[03:15:30] <MichiBot> Izaya! You beat Kodos's previous record of 5 minutes and 25 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L26[03:15:31] <MichiBot> Izaya's new record is 7 minutes and 1 second
L27[03:15:36] <Izaya> bah
L28[03:17:49] <Forecaster> very fluffy cat https://imgur.com/gallery/eQh9T
L29[03:18:37] <Kleadron> i want to hug it
L30[03:26:51] <Kodos> %tonk
L31[03:26:52] <MichiBot> You got the first Tonk Kodos, but this is only the beginning.
L32[03:26:57] <Kodos> Fuck what
L33[03:27:27] <Kodos> It's `addquote nick quote` right?
L34[03:28:47] <Forecaster> no
L35[03:28:54] <Forecaster> quote add nick quote
L36[03:29:42] <Kodos> %quote add Kodos Let your kids believe in Santa Claus. After all, some people still believe in the Dallas Cowboys
L37[03:29:43] <MichiBot> Kodos: Quote added at id: 183
L38[03:35:38] <payonel> so i spent 4 days fixing and polishing our tablet code
L39[03:35:57] <payonel> trying to make it as reliable as i can, given the issues i am able to repro and predict
L40[03:36:37] <payonel> so that's nice....then i go to the next bug -- dealing with terminal servers. turns out, that bug is a LOT easier :)
L41[03:38:07] <Kodos> Neato
L42[03:47:43] <Izaya> mmmmh
L43[03:47:55] <Izaya> E:D servers are restarting in 15 minutes
L44[03:47:59] <Izaya> Krait Phantom soon
L45[03:48:02] <Izaya> %tonk
L46[03:48:02] <MichiBot> Izaya! You beat Kodos's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L47[03:48:03] <MichiBot> Izaya's new record is 21 minutes and 10 seconds
L48[03:52:23] <Kodos> New mining, too, isn't it?
L49[03:56:53] <Izaya> that's already in
L50[04:16:09] <Kodos> I just wish there were actual mining ships
L51[04:16:32] <Forecaster> every ship is a mining ship! :D
L52[04:16:39] <Izaya> get a type 9
L53[04:16:43] <Izaya> that one should mine pretty well
L54[04:17:10] <Forecaster> multi-crew mining
L55[04:19:48] <Forecaster> https://imgur.com/gallery/eQwuKB8
L56[04:19:52] <Forecaster> amanda ^
L57[04:20:58] <Lizzian> * AmandaC ^
L58[04:22:48] <Forecaster> either pings her, or so I've been told
L59[04:24:36] <Kodos> Izaya, I have like 1m cash
L60[04:24:57] <Kodos> I would love a type 9, but I'd use it for trading probably
L61[04:25:04] <Izaya> hm
L62[04:25:10] <Izaya> python or krait is more within reach then
L63[04:25:16] <Izaya> not too had to get 50mil
L64[04:27:53] <Forecaster> a bird in the hand https://imgur.com/gallery/OlZrT85
L65[04:58:42] <ZefTheFox> %tonk
L66[04:58:43] <MichiBot> ZefTheFox! You beat Izaya's previous record of 21 minutes and 10 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L67[04:58:44] <MichiBot> ZefTheFox's new record is 1 hour, 10 minutes and 40 seconds
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L70[05:04:16] <ZefTheFox> ***t o n k e d***
L71[05:04:27] <Izaya> tfw tonked
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L73[05:32:37] <Inari> Meow
L74[05:32:50] <Inari> AmandaC: haha
L75[05:34:56] <Inari> AmandaC: The hero of ages awoke to his glorious adventure. However, he seemed to take a strange preoccupation in climbing the nearest tall building - an old, temple in state of decay. And thus he promptly proceeded to fall, die, and end his journey of glory.
L76[05:36:18] <Inari> Also good news
L77[05:36:29] <Inari> I improved my Swtichs ound setup more by realizing that my Monitor's volume can also be turned up
L78[05:36:46] <Inari> Meaning less volume required on windows, soundcard, meaningl ess noise
L79[05:38:24] <Inari> arie nee, arie neeeeeeee~
L80[07:06:32] <Lizzian> Hmm, if I switch a gpu bind from one screen to another, will the stuff on screenA transfer to screenB?
L81[07:07:06] <Forecaster> I don't think so
L82[07:07:20] <Forecaster> it gets drawn on the screen and will stay there regardless of the gpu
L83[07:08:02] <Lizzian> Okay, that may be a useful way to drive lots of screens
L84[07:08:15] <Forecaster> based on the fact that if the computer stops because of a bug or anything the screen will show the last image that was drawn
L85[07:08:20] <Forecaster> because it wasn't told to clear
L86[07:16:08] <MGR> %tonk
L87[07:16:09] <MichiBot> MGR! You beat ZefTheFox's previous record of 1 hour, 10 minutes and 40 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L88[07:16:10] <MichiBot> MGR's new record is 2 hours, 17 minutes and 26 seconds
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L91[07:59:41] * AmandaC boops Inari
L92[07:59:47] <AmandaC> Melee!
L93[08:04:22] <AmandaC> ... meow even
L94[08:07:04] <Forecaster> fight!
L95[08:20:35] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L96[08:20:36] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with no tea. 4 health gained!
L97[08:20:42] <Inari> Meowl
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L100[08:45:52] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qSTcxt2t74 so good
L101[08:45:52] <MichiBot> Captain Disillusion: World's Greatest Blenderer - Live at the Blender Conference 2018 | length: 41m 44s | Likes: 30,553 Dislikes: 275 Views: 411,812 | by CaptainDisillusion | Published On 8/11/2018
L102[08:57:05] <Inari 『 おにいでれ 』> http://tinyurl.com/ybdjw97x
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L106[09:16:07] <DerDaniel> are there any creative opencomputers servers?
L107[09:17:15] <OmegaRogue> is there dotNET for OC?
L108[09:21:50] <asie> No.
L109[09:24:04] <Lizzian> @DerDaniel there probably is. you could try looking at the posts in the server section of the forums to see if anything there takes your fancy
L110[09:43:47] <Inari> A creative Oc server might be nice tbh
L111[09:44:00] <Inari> Just they don't tend to stay around all thatl ong
L112[09:46:54] <Lizzian> I think it was discussed at some point with regards as to running an "official" OC server of some kind, but we agreed that it probably wasn't worth it
L113[09:49:14] <AmandaC> Wait. Is it really only wednesday?
L114[09:49:26] <AmandaC> ... I could have sworn yesterday was thursday...
L115[09:50:29] <Forecaster> the creative Railcraft server will also have OC (for computronics) at some point in the future (when I've overhauled the platform so I can set up a small modpack)
L116[09:51:00] <Wuerfel_21> %tonk
L117[09:51:00] <MichiBot> Wuerfel_21! You beat MGR's previous record of 2 hours, 17 minutes and 26 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L118[09:51:01] <MichiBot> Wuerfel_21's new record is 2 hours, 34 minutes and 50 seconds
L119[09:51:59] <Wuerfel_21> Yes! I am now the mighty tonkster. You squirming little worms can do nothing against the power of the tonk!
L120[09:52:44] <Forecaster> yeah, people definitely weren't this into it the first time around :P
L121[09:54:31] <Inari> Cause it never reset
L122[09:54:32] <Inari> :P
L123[09:55:25] <AmandaC> Maybe once it get to the week-range it should auto-reset, then maybe people will enjoy it. :P
L124[09:56:48] <Forecaster> no, I mean hours went by between people using the command, time went up very quickly
L125[09:56:58] <Forecaster> and *then* because it didn't reset there was no reason to use it
L126[09:58:34] <Lizzian> dammit @Wuerfel_21 :<
L127[09:58:39] <Lizzian> i wanted to do that
L128[09:58:42] <Lizzian> ?
L129[10:01:34] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L130[10:01:35] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with Zuper Entertainment System. 4 health gained!
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L132[10:13:01] <simon816> the past few days in this channel has just been "tonk" lol
L133[10:13:28] <MGR> @Wuerfel_21 Darn
L134[11:14:13] <Michiyo> %restart
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L136[11:14:24] <asie> don't tonk back
L137[11:14:39] <Lizzian> %tonk
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L140[11:14:48] <Lizzian> derp
L141[11:14:50] <Lizzian> %tonk
L142[11:14:59] <Michiyo> ._.
L143[11:15:30] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Lizzian, you were not able to beat Wuerfel_21's record of 2 hours, 34 minutes and 50 seconds this time.
L144[11:15:32] <MichiBot> 1 hour, 24 minutes and 27 seconds were wasted!
L145[11:15:37] <Lizzy> lol
L146[11:17:33] <Michiyo> i've got tonk logging all of its DB calls
L147[11:17:42] <Michiyo> so maybe I can figure out what is going on
L148[11:18:20] <Michiyo> actually... I'm logging all calls into get/setJsonData.. but that's just tonk atm
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L153[11:37:22] <ZefTheFox> ***t o n k i n g i s m y r e l i g i o n***
L154[11:39:52] <ZefTheFox> If someone wants access to test the 3d cases just pm me and I'll get you links when I get home, if you're on irc then idk lol
L155[11:41:04] <Forecaster> why are they secret? :P
L156[11:41:47] <ZefTheFox> They're not secret I just want to make sure it's not going to like corrupt a world or some shit
L157[11:41:53] <ZefTheFox> You know how bad Minecraft can be
L158[11:42:23] <Forecaster> that sounds like it's the individuals responsibility :P
L159[11:43:03] <ZefTheFox> Good point but eh
L160[11:43:26] <ZefTheFox> I also don't feel like releasing it yet
L161[11:43:37] <ZefTheFox> I've got to figure out why the 1.11 version won't work
L162[11:44:03] <ZefTheFox> Actually nvm I know why it's not working, when I get home I'll work on it lol
L163[11:48:48] <OmegaRogue> is there a netdeploy program for oc?
L164[11:49:06] <Forecaster> netdeploy?
L165[11:49:36] <OmegaRogue> to deploy software on a bunch of computers
L166[11:49:51] <OmegaRogue> or is there a docker SDK for lua?
L167[11:50:01] <Forecaster> not that I'm aware
L168[11:50:08] <Forecaster> there's oppm for installing packages
L169[11:50:13] <OmegaRogue> ?
L170[11:50:48] <Compu> in order for a computer to process network stuff it has to already have an OS on it
L171[11:51:01] <Compu> which kinda defeats the purpose of netdeploy
L172[11:51:25] <Forecaster> uh, not really? you can use the raw network stuff
L173[11:51:45] <Lizzian> Omega, there's not one yet
L174[11:52:38] <OmegaRogue> or is there a docker engine for oc?
L175[11:52:47] <Forecaster> no
L176[11:52:49] <OmegaRogue> or for lua in general
L177[11:53:24] <Lizzian> i doubt there would be since Lua is mainly embedded into other stuff
L178[11:53:34] <Compu> @Forecaster my point is u need something on the computer for the computer to use the raw network stuff, u can't just start it up with a blank hard drive and a Lua bios and have it work
L179[11:55:09] <OmegaRogue> the os isnt the problem
L180[11:55:18] <OmegaRogue> there can just be open os on a floppy
L181[11:55:35] <OmegaRogue> but to deploy programs on multiple computers
L182[11:55:43] <Compu> ah
L183[11:55:51] <Compu> i thought he wanted to deploy OSes
L184[11:55:54] <OmegaRogue> no
L185[11:56:13] <OmegaRogue> i want to deploy program updates to all computers at once
L186[11:56:18] <Compu> ah
L187[11:56:32] <Compu> could have a script and have ssh servers on the computers
L188[11:56:51] <Compu> the script connects via ssh and runs the updates
L189[11:57:09] <Compu> iirc theres an ssh server for openos that works over OC networks
L190[11:57:36] <Compu> oh
L191[11:57:42] <Compu> plan9k has ssh built in
L192[11:58:01] <OmegaRogue> is it better than OpenOS?
L193[11:58:12] <Forecaster> that's subjective
L194[11:58:26] <OmegaRogue> what are the differences
L195[11:58:42] <Compu> no idea, i only ever installed it once and never really touched it after that
L196[11:58:47] <Compu> i still prefer kitten os
L197[11:58:53] <OmegaRogue> whats that
L198[11:59:02] <OmegaRogue> i can only find two oses on oc forum
L199[11:59:06] <Compu> it's kinda like the old macintosh system software
L200[11:59:07] <OmegaRogue> none of them are kitten os
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L202[11:59:22] <Compu> it's a GUI only OS really
L203[11:59:30] <OmegaRogue> so like MineOS?
L204[11:59:36] <Compu> but it doesn't run openos programs
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L206[11:59:46] <Compu> yeah kinda but kitten os is waaaaay lighter
L207[12:00:01] <OmegaRogue> only stattenos and mineos are on the oc forum
L208[12:00:07] <Compu> it can run with just 2 sticks of tier 1 RAM iirc
L209[12:00:19] <Compu> https://github.com/20kdc/OC-KittenOS
L210[12:01:01] <Compu> https://github.com/20kdc/OC-KittenOS/releases/download/neo-r6/inst.lua download this, put it on a blank hard drive, rename it to init.lua, and iirc make sure u havve an internet card, then just boot from the hard drive
L211[12:05:52] <OmegaRogue> how do i put it onto a blank hard drive?
L212[12:06:18] <OmegaRogue> and what is managed and unmanaged mode
L213[12:14:46] <Forecaster> https://youtu.be/69jO0Xr7-jY?list=WL
L214[12:14:47] <MichiBot> VANDALIZING RENAISSANCE ART!? - Timeless Masterpieces violently violated! | length: 14m 38s | Likes: 32,231 Dislikes: 969 Views: 409,631 | by Draw with Jazza | Published On 11/11/2018
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L217[12:19:34] <OmegaRogue> @Compu how do i put it onto a blank hard drive?
L218[12:20:07] <Compu> do u have a computer with open os on it?
L219[12:20:15] <OmegaRogue> yes
L220[12:20:45] <Compu> download the file to that computer, pop the hard drive into the open os computer alongside ur open os drive, and copy it over and rename it
L221[12:21:07] <OmegaRogue> how do i download it onto the computer?
L222[12:21:30] <Compu> u use wget?
L223[12:21:35] <OmegaRogue> ok
L224[12:21:51] <OmegaRogue> why doesnt ctrl v work in open os
L225[12:22:32] <Compu> middle mouse button
L226[12:22:44] <Forecaster> or the insert key
L227[12:24:51] <OmegaRogue> oh lol
L228[12:24:58] <OmegaRogue> and how do i rename files in openos
L229[12:25:11] <Forecaster> mv oldname newname
L230[12:25:29] <OmegaRogue> thx
L231[12:27:17] <Izaya> %tonk
L232[12:27:18] <MichiBot> You got the first Tonk Izaya, but this is only the beginning.
L233[12:27:22] <Izaya> oh nooooo
L234[12:27:38] <Izaya> Compu: one stick of T1 RAM
L235[12:28:05] <Michiyo> @Forecaster
L236[12:28:06] <Michiyo> 4379941 [listenerPool0-thread1268] ERROR pcl.lc.irc.IRCBot - JsonData: 1542215728209
L237[12:28:06] <Michiyo> 4379942 [listenerPool0-thread1268] ERROR pcl.lc.irc.IRCBot - JsonData: 9290904;Wuerfel_21
L238[12:28:06] <Michiyo> 4379942 [listenerPool0-thread1268] INFO pcl.lc.irc.IRCBot - Code: 0
L239[12:28:06] <Michiyo> 4379944 [listenerPool0-thread1268] ERROR pcl.lc.irc.IRCBot - JsonData try/catch failed
L240[12:28:08] <Compu> hm?
L241[12:28:21] <Michiyo> so.. it's failing and my new logging caught it
L242[12:28:36] <Forecaster> hm
L243[12:28:44] <Izaya> KittenOS works on one stick of T1 RAM
L244[12:28:55] <Izaya> sure, running stuff in that configuration is ... limited, but the OS works
L245[12:28:57] <Forecaster> well, it's probably better off resetting randomly right now
L246[12:29:04] <Michiyo> damn it and it printed the excpetion
L247[12:29:08] <Michiyo> and it scrolled off t he screen
L248[12:29:09] <Forecaster> I'll fix it when I implement a regular reset
L249[12:29:17] <OmegaRogue> there needs to be ubuntu for oc
L250[12:29:23] <OmegaRogue> ubuntu MATE
L251[12:29:28] <Michiyo> No.... just.. no
L252[12:29:35] <AmandaC> Come on, at least use GNOME
L253[12:29:38] <Izaya> ignoring the choice of distro
L254[12:29:40] <Izaya> >MATE
L255[12:29:42] <Izaya> >not superior XFCE
L256[12:29:44] * AmandaC flees from the hord of angry Izaya
L257[12:29:48] <Michiyo> XFCE ftw
L258[12:30:03] <AmandaC> %choose computer or not so computer
L259[12:30:04] <MichiBot> AmandaC: You *could* do not so computer, I guess.
L260[12:30:12] <Izaya> AmandaC: OC computers don't have 800TB of RAM, it's not even enough to worry about
L261[12:30:25] * AmandaC knocks a glass off Inari's desk, runs off
L262[12:30:31] <OmegaRogue> Ubuntu MATE is my favorite distro
L263[12:30:52] <OmegaRogue> and is there a MySQL library for oc?
L264[12:30:54] * AmandaC is currently using Pop!_OS
L265[12:31:06] <Forecaster> is there also a Ubuntu DAWG?
L266[12:31:15] <AmandaC> We'll see if I get the distro itch again, I used to have it bad, switching every couple months
L267[12:31:17] <Izaya> oof
L268[12:31:18] <Compu> omega u realize how low spec these things r right?
L269[12:31:27] <Izaya> got worried for a sec, was in witchspace for like 5 minutes
L270[12:31:34] <Compu> like in some aspects they're lower specced than old DOS only computers
L271[12:31:39] <Forecaster> which space?
L272[12:31:51] <Izaya> that's the one
L273[12:31:56] <AmandaC> E:D I assume
L274[12:31:58] <Forecaster> that space?
L275[12:32:21] <Izaya> Compu: original unix ran on a machine with 32KB of RAM
L276[12:32:37] <OmegaRogue> is there a MySQL library for interacting with MySQL servers for oc?
L277[12:32:53] <Forecaster> you can probably find something for Lua
L278[12:32:54] <Michiyo> There is a partially completed addon to do that
L279[12:32:59] <Michiyo> %restart
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L281[12:33:04] <AmandaC> original unix wasn't 32+bit, internet-connected, and running entirely on a Lua API
L282[12:33:18] <Izaya> you're right, but comparing it to DOS is unfair
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L284[12:33:31] zsh sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L285[12:33:48] <Michiyo> %test
L286[12:34:12] <Forecaster> *ticking sound*
L287[12:34:18] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Success
L288[12:34:24] <Forecaster> ding!
L289[12:34:40] <Michiyo> ok, made it print the exceptions to the logger in get/setJsonData
L290[12:34:53] <Michiyo> Which... might be a good idea to do for other exceptions.
L291[12:34:57] * Michiyo coughs
L292[12:35:04] <OmegaRogue> so whats the name of the SQL library
L293[12:35:11] <Forecaster> eh, who reads logs anyway
L294[12:35:13] <Michiyo> it's called google.
L295[12:35:29] <Forecaster> *googles "who reads logs anyway"
L296[12:35:40] <Forecaster> aw, forgot the end asterisk
L297[12:35:42] <Forecaster> >:
L298[12:37:10] <Michiyo> %tonk
L299[12:37:11] <MichiBot> Michiyo! You beat Izaya's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L300[12:37:12] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 9 minutes and 52 seconds
L301[12:40:22] <OmegaRogue> whats the install command in plan9k
L302[12:41:11] <OmegaRogue> `install` doesnt work
L303[12:41:26] <Forecaster> look for instructions on how to install plan9k
L304[12:41:36] <OmegaRogue> i installed plan9k with install
L305[12:41:36] <Michiyo> %tonk
L306[12:41:37] <MichiBot> You got the first Tonk Michiyo, but this is only the beginning.
L307[12:41:41] <OmegaRogue> but i want to install network
L308[12:41:48] <OmegaRogue> and it doesnt work for that
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L310[12:41:57] <Michiyo> erm oops
L311[12:41:59] <Michiyo> 12:41:37.626 [listenerPool0-thread254] INFO IRCBot - storeJsonData: ('tonkrecord', '0;Michiyo')
L312[12:41:59] <Michiyo> java.sql.SQLException: query does not return ResultSet
L313[12:42:06] <Michiyo> didn't mean to kill MichiBot..
L314[12:42:21] <Forecaster> uh
L315[12:42:23] <Forecaster> hm
L316[12:42:47] <Michiyo> well, I have an exception to work with now
L317[12:42:50] <Michiyo> so I'll see what I cna do
L318[12:43:19] <OmegaRogue> now it says program install not found
L319[12:43:45] <Kodos> %tonk
L320[12:43:53] <Michiyo> the bot isn't connected..
L321[12:43:53] <Forecaster> have you tried googling "how to do x with plan9k"?
L322[12:43:55] <Michiyo> I killed.
L323[12:43:55] <Kodos> ?
L324[12:45:06] <Forecaster> ah, I see
L325[12:46:05] <Michiyo> another one is java.sql.SQLException: ResultSet closed
L326[12:46:09] <Michiyo> on line 171 of database
L327[12:46:18] <Forecaster> it's using executeQuery for everything, but one of the queries should probably use executeUpdate
L328[12:46:29] <Forecaster> maybe
L329[12:47:12] <Michiyo> the select uses executeQuery but the insert uses executeUpdate properly
L330[12:48:29] <Forecaster> it might be the `create table` query
L331[12:48:32] <AmandaC> Mimiru: you probably should't admit to homocide on a logged channel.
L332[12:49:06] * AmandaC wanders back off to read moar
L333[12:51:24] <Michiyo> lol..
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L335[12:51:42] zsh sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L336[12:51:53] <Michiyo> %test
L337[12:52:29] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Success
L338[12:52:36] <Michiyo> %tonk
L339[12:52:37] <MichiBot> Michiyo! You beat Michiyo's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L340[12:52:38] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 10 minutes and 59 seconds
L341[12:52:40] <Michiyo> %tonk
L342[12:52:41] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Michiyo, you were not able to beat Michiyo's record of 10 minutes and 59 seconds this time.
L343[12:52:42] <MichiBot> 3 seconds were wasted!
L344[12:53:23] <Michiyo> %tonk
L345[12:53:24] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Michiyo, you were not able to beat Michiyo's record of 10 minutes and 59 seconds this time.
L346[12:53:25] <MichiBot> 43 seconds were wasted!
L347[12:53:30] * Michiyo sighs
L348[12:53:33] <Michiyo> ofc you work now
L349[12:53:47] <EveryOS> It's 10min, not 10s ):
L350[12:54:02] <Forecaster> %bap @EveryOS
L351[12:54:05] * MichiBot baps @EveryOS with the picture of a crudely drawn appendage
L352[12:54:08] <Michiyo> .. yes I'm quiet aware, but it was resetting randomly which you may remember...
L353[12:55:36] <Michiyo> https://drive.pc-logix.com/index.php/s/E4jYSjqDbF2nA6G fun times
L354[12:56:13] <Forecaster> like trying to beat up a waterfall
L355[12:56:30] <Forecaster> you just get really wet
L356[12:56:32] <Forecaster> wait...
L357[12:56:35] <Michiyo> So.. one thing I did was remove the create database calls..
L358[12:56:46] <Michiyo> if it stops throwing up now... we'll know why
L359[12:57:41] <Forecaster> yeah, it uses executeQuery, but probably doesn't return anything
L360[12:59:56] <Michiyo> if the table needs to be created a db update call might be a better idea
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L363[13:14:16] <McMaarten> Sooo I made a piece of code but the thread gets killed. (Is that of too long without yielding?)
L364[13:14:17] <McMaarten> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ihisewofuh
L365[13:16:00] <Forecaster> probably
L366[13:16:11] <Forecaster> put an os.sleep in there
L367[13:16:16] <Forecaster> assuming you're under openos
L368[13:16:22] <McMaarten> Well...
L369[13:16:39] <McMaarten> How does that even work...
L370[13:16:42] <payonel> i can explain
L371[13:16:42] <McMaarten> ima try somethin
L372[13:16:52] <Forecaster> sleep yields
L373[13:17:09] <Forecaster> thus no "too long without yielding" error :P
L374[13:17:16] <payonel> @McMaarten as forecaster is suggesting, you need to yield
L375[13:17:28] <payonel> we have a rule that requires yielding at least once every 5 seconds
L376[13:17:40] <payonel> os.sleep calls event.pull which calls computer.pullSignal
L377[13:17:48] <McMaarten> great.... or could i use `foo:suspend()` and `foo:resume()` (Would that yield?)
L378[13:17:52] <payonel> and you call computer.pullSignal to yield
L379[13:18:04] <payonel> @McMaarten you're using threads?
L380[13:18:08] <payonel> from /lib/thread ?
L381[13:18:14] <McMaarten> you can clearly see im using threads ?
L382[13:18:16] <Forecaster> it's right there in the snippet :P
L383[13:18:27] <payonel> i'm in irc, hadn't clicked the snippet :)
L384[13:18:31] <payonel> clicked the link
L385[13:18:40] <McMaarten> xd
L386[13:18:44] <Forecaster> you could have done that first :P
L387[13:18:59] <payonel> anywho, as i wrote in the thread doc [see, i can be passive aggressive too!] suspend() doesn't yield the computer, just the thread
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L389[13:19:18] <payonel> and our yield rules require the computer yield at least once per second
L390[13:19:21] <McMaarten> Oh well in that case
L391[13:19:27] <McMaarten> I need to yield the thread
L392[13:19:36] <Forecaster> earlier you said every 5 seconds
L393[13:19:40] <payonel> well, threat the thread like a non threaded process
L394[13:19:47] <payonel> have it yield, like you would normally
L395[13:19:54] <payonel> with a os.sleep, or event.pull, or computer.pullSignal
L396[13:20:00] <McMaarten> I'll try something with that...
L397[13:20:06] <payonel> treat*, not threat :)
L398[13:20:14] <McMaarten> lol ?
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L400[13:20:41] <Forecaster> %quote add payonel threat the thread
L401[13:20:43] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Quote added at id: 184
L402[13:20:51] <Forecaster> :S
L403[13:20:54] <Forecaster> :>
L404[13:21:03] <payonel> using suspend() and resume() are not part of typical thread designs, just fyi
L405[13:21:21] <Michiyo> %tonk
L406[13:21:21] <MichiBot> You got the first Tonk Michiyo, but this is only the beginning.
L407[13:21:25] <Michiyo> GAAAAH
L408[13:21:38] <McMaarten> u ok?
L409[13:21:48] <Michiyo> No, not really
L410[13:21:50] * Michiyo sighs
L411[13:22:05] <Forecaster> hours of fun
L412[13:22:09] <payonel> @McMaarten suspend() and resume() are for when you want a thread to not run anymore, like....not even be a "thread" anymore
L413[13:22:24] <McMaarten> but its pausing the execution right
L414[13:22:32] <Michiyo> Resultsetclosed @ 171
L415[13:22:32] <payonel> suspend() is not a "yield"
L416[13:22:41] <Michiyo> but it's not writing to the log... so it's not one we're catching..?
L417[13:23:06] <payonel> suspend() is like telling the thread to not come into work tomorrow
L418[13:23:17] <McMaarten> lol what
L419[13:23:53] <payonel> read what i wrote in the docs: https://ocdoc.cil.li/api:thread#thread_handle_api
L420[13:23:58] <payonel> read the part under t:suspend()
L421[13:24:07] <McMaarten> I had that tab already open in my browser
L422[13:24:10] <McMaarten> ?
L423[13:24:11] <Forecaster> Michiyo try naming the variable something other than "resultSet"
L424[13:24:40] <Michiyo> meh, maybe next time :P
L425[13:24:43] <Michiyo> %restart
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L427[13:24:52] <Forecaster> it might be a similar issue as I was having with the dynamic commands
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L430[13:25:08] <payonel> @McMaarten suspend does yield the thread, i'm just saying, suspend is MORE than just a yield
L431[13:25:08] <Forecaster> where it was closing resultSets which seemed to affect other hooks
L432[13:25:24] <Forecaster> which interrupted processed trying to access a resultSet
L433[13:25:32] <Forecaster> which interrupted a processes trying to access a resultSet [Edited]
L434[13:25:37] <McMaarten> ikr
L435[13:25:44] <payonel> @McMaarten a yielded thread is still alive and well, and responding to events, and all of that
L436[13:25:46] <McMaarten> how do you push a event again
L437[13:25:56] <payonel> a suspended thread is essentially on life support
L438[13:25:58] <McMaarten> how do you push an event again [Edited]
L439[13:26:09] <payonel> push a custom event?
L440[13:26:15] <payonel> event.push (or computer.pushSignal)
L441[13:26:22] <Michiyo> %test
L442[13:26:24] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Success
L443[13:26:24] <payonel> they're technically the same exact thing
L444[13:26:26] <Michiyo> %tonk
L445[13:26:27] <MichiBot> Michiyo! You beat Michiyo's previous record of <0! I hope you're happy!
L446[13:26:28] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 5 minutes and 5 seconds
L447[13:26:31] <payonel> %tonk
L448[13:26:37] <McMaarten> tanks
L449[13:26:55] <Forecaster> timeout works :>
L450[13:27:12] <McMaarten> Oh
L451[13:27:14] <Michiyo> 60 seconds! lmao
L452[13:27:15] <Michiyo> nice
L453[13:27:18] <McMaarten> It does no longer yield!!!
L454[13:27:43] <McMaarten> oops lmao i cant write
L455[13:27:56] <McMaarten> 'it does yield and it works now ' i mean
L456[13:28:08] <Forecaster> that's vastly different :P
L457[13:28:17] <McMaarten> yep... xd
L458[13:28:28] <McMaarten> It works with event.pull and event.push
L459[13:28:31] <McMaarten> very gud
L460[13:28:33] <Michiyo> %tonk
L461[13:28:34] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Michiyo, you were not able to beat Michiyo's record of 5 minutes and 5 seconds this time.
L462[13:28:35] <MichiBot> 2 minutes and 6 seconds were wasted!
L463[13:28:36] <McMaarten> Thanks for help
L464[13:28:50] <payonel> yeah!
L465[13:29:01] <Forecaster> that'll be one soul please
L466[13:29:04] <payonel> if you have any more issues with threads, let me know
L467[13:29:06] <McMaarten> xd
L468[13:29:11] <McMaarten> I will
L469[13:29:11] <Forecaster> give it to MichiBot
L470[13:29:21] <McMaarten> how
L471[13:29:41] <Forecaster> `%give MichiBot <item>`
L472[13:29:48] <McMaarten> %give MichiBot license key
L473[13:29:49] * MichiBot accepts license key and adds it to her inventory
L474[13:30:04] <McMaarten> ohhh
L475[13:30:05] <OmegaRogue> are you MineMaarten @McMaarten ?
L476[13:30:14] <McMaarten> uh
L477[13:30:17] <McMaarten> no
L478[13:30:19] <McMaarten> who's that
L479[13:30:27] <OmegaRogue> dev of pneumaticcraft
L480[13:30:33] <McMaarten> ohhh
L481[13:31:00] <payonel> @OmegaRogue you were asking about operating systems? plan9k is deprecated, just fyi
L482[13:31:12] <McMaarten> Deprecated??
L483[13:31:18] <payonel> mmhmm
L484[13:31:18] <McMaarten> What happened to it...?
L485[13:31:26] <payonel> i'll be dropping it in our next version
L486[13:31:43] <payonel> it hasn't been updated in ages, plus, openos does it better
L487[13:31:51] <McMaarten> next version? OpenOS 1.7.3?
L488[13:31:58] <payonel> no that my next patch release
L489[13:32:00] <payonel> i mean 1.8
L490[13:32:10] <McMaarten> 1.8 looks even more nice
L491[13:32:21] <payonel> plan9k was ahead of its time, but that time has passed
L492[13:32:43] <McMaarten> Are there going to be changes to OC besides the OS containing it?
L493[13:33:00] <payonel> yes, but that's still being reviewed
L494[13:33:11] <McMaarten> Ohh im excited
L495[13:33:37] <OmegaRogue> how are you chatting through a bot?
L496[13:33:39] <Forecaster> OC contains the OS :P
L497[13:33:57] <McMaarten> It's trough IRC
L498[13:33:58] <Forecaster> @OmegaRogue it's an irc bridge
L499[13:34:07] <McMaarten> I like that system
L500[13:34:12] <McMaarten> I might make it myself in OC
L501[13:34:15] <payonel> @omegarogue i could ask you the same question :P
L502[13:34:16] <McMaarten> xd
L503[13:34:23] <OmegaRogue> lol
L504[13:34:50] <OmegaRogue> so how would i ssh into multiple systems for netdeploy with openos
L505[13:35:05] <payonel> we dont have something for that
L506[13:35:13] <OmegaRogue> ?
L507[13:35:15] <McMaarten> ssh?
L508[13:35:19] <McMaarten> hmm
L509[13:35:20] <payonel> the community has built solutions
L510[13:35:21] <OmegaRogue> Secure shell
L511[13:35:29] <payonel> but nothing core
L512[13:35:39] <Forecaster> it's for creating very secure seashells
L513[13:35:53] <McMaarten> Are we able to connect a client from the PC to OpenOS?
L514[13:35:58] <McMaarten> like ssh
L515[13:36:21] <OmegaRogue> i want to update scripts from a private github repo on a lot of computers at once
L516[13:36:24] <McMaarten> It should be possible with the 'internet card' right
L517[13:36:40] <payonel> it is possible, just no program you can just 'apt get'
L518[13:36:51] <Forecaster> you don't need ssh to get text files if they're accessible from http
L519[13:37:21] <McMaarten> ma project is soo big
L520[13:37:26] <McMaarten> jk its small but it looks big
L521[13:37:29] <OmegaRogue> and how would i be able to update all of them via a button press on a webserver?
L522[13:37:55] <Forecaster> just have the program update itself on start
L523[13:38:49] <OmegaRogue> but its running pretty much 24/7
L524[13:38:58] <McMaarten> how would you do that
L525[13:39:07] <Forecaster> you'd have to stop it for any updates to apply anyway
L526[13:39:25] <OmegaRogue> yea right
L527[13:39:53] <OmegaRogue> bc i want to control my base securely either via a webserver or via a discord bot
L528[13:40:41] <OmegaRogue> and not only my base but my whole clan on a mc server is going to do that
L529[13:41:13] <Forecaster> you can't really establish a connection to an oc computer from the outside
L530[13:41:21] <McMaarten> no?
L531[13:41:22] <OmegaRogue> http
L532[13:41:28] <Forecaster> it has to establish the connection
L533[13:41:28] <OmegaRogue> internet cards
L534[13:41:36] <McMaarten> we have internet cards ?
L535[13:41:39] <Forecaster> I mean from the outside you don't see the computer
L536[13:41:47] <McMaarten> oh
L537[13:41:56] <McMaarten> custom client?
L538[13:41:56] <Forecaster> you just see the server it's in
L539[13:42:14] <OmegaRogue> ok?
L540[13:42:22] <OmegaRogue> then how does irc work on oc
L541[13:42:41] <Forecaster> the connection is established by the computer
L542[13:43:03] <OmegaRogue> and why shouldnt my program be able to do that?
L543[13:43:14] <Forecaster> ...
L544[13:43:33] <Forecaster> I'm saying you can't push something from outside without each in-game computer opening a connection first
L545[13:43:50] <OmegaRogue> yes and its doing that
L546[13:44:20] <Forecaster> so each computer is just constantly connected to your update server then?
L547[13:44:26] <OmegaRogue> yes
L548[13:44:28] <McMaarten> I hate villagers in ma way -_-
L549[13:44:33] <payonel> in other words, our internet card has only connect, not bind/listen
L550[13:44:39] <McMaarten> they get stuck in corners where i need to place somethin
L551[13:46:00] <ZefTheFox> If `os.exit(0)` is called within a program running in driver mode will it stop listening to events?
L552[13:46:28] <payonel> driver mode is just a made up term we used to help ppl understand running code in event listeners and timers
L553[13:46:37] <payonel> os.exit technically throws a special exception
L554[13:46:56] <payonel> throwing an exception in a event handler will not take down the kernel :)
L555[13:47:05] <payonel> the exception will be caught, and logged to /tmp/event.log
L556[13:47:20] <McMaarten> Well why did the thread crash now..
L557[13:47:43] <payonel> that handler will continue to "exist"
L558[13:47:57] <McMaarten> I've send a broadcast from pc1 to pc2 and it crashes lmao
L559[13:48:03] <McMaarten> pls help :/
L560[13:48:30] <Lizzian> any errors would be nice
L561[13:48:47] <McMaarten> I don't see errors...
L562[13:48:54] <McMaarten> This is by using threads
L563[13:49:02] <Lizzian> you said it crashes
L564[13:49:05] <McMaarten> yes
L565[13:49:11] <Lizzian> crashes usually mean errors
L566[13:49:12] <Forecaster> did you check the event log payo mentioned?
L567[13:49:24] <McMaarten> waht event log?
L568[13:49:31] <Forecaster> /tmp/event.log
L569[13:49:34] <McMaarten> ill look
L570[13:49:57] <McMaarten> oh uh
L571[13:50:04] <McMaarten> that wasn't really error
L572[13:50:10] <McMaarten> it was a SYNTAX error
L573[13:52:18] <ZefTheFox> Well driver mode is also easy to say
L574[13:52:41] <ZefTheFox> Rather than "I ran a program to listed to events and let it run in the background"
L575[13:53:11] <ZefTheFox> If it was a syntax error then *read the error*
L576[13:53:23] <ZefTheFox> It will tell you exactly where something went wrong in the code
L577[13:53:28] <McMaarten> ikr
L578[13:53:34] <McMaarten> dont have to tell me
L579[13:53:55] <ZefTheFox> Well you're saying it crashes and you need help
L580[13:54:01] <McMaarten> I got help
L581[13:54:06] <McMaarten> soo...
L582[13:54:14] <Forecaster> %tonk
L583[13:54:16] <MichiBot> Forecaster! You beat Michiyo's previous record of 5 minutes and 5 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L584[13:54:17] <MichiBot> Forecaster's new record is 25 minutes and 41 seconds
L585[13:54:22] <Forecaster> woo
L586[13:54:25] <McMaarten> what?
L587[13:54:28] <McMaarten> what does that do
L588[13:54:40] <McMaarten> %tonk
L589[13:56:29] <Forecaster> exactly what happened above :P
L590[14:00:06] <McMaarten> well xd
L591[14:00:30] <McMaarten> How do I write to a file what I've opened
L592[14:00:43] <McMaarten> I've tried `fs.write('test')`
L593[14:01:37] <McMaarten> oh wait it's `file:write('test')`
L594[14:10:49] <McMaarten> using the modem can i broadcast multiple data?
L595[14:11:05] <Forecaster> what do you mean
L596[14:11:10] <McMaarten> like sending multiple strings
L597[14:11:17] <McMaarten> no right?
L598[14:11:25] <Forecaster> you can serialize a table and send that
L599[14:11:29] <McMaarten> Oohh
L600[14:11:32] <Forecaster> or you can just use a delimiter
L601[14:11:40] <McMaarten> what'stat
L602[14:11:41] <ZefTheFox> No, you can send multiple strings
L603[14:11:48] <ZefTheFox> They just get added onto the event
L604[14:11:53] <Forecaster> like `string1;string2;string3`
L605[14:12:03] <Forecaster> ; is the delimiter
L606[14:12:04] <ZefTheFox> I think you can send up to 9 strings
L607[14:12:33] <McMaarten> uh
L608[14:12:40] <Forecaster> but serializing is probably easier than that given that Lua doesn't have an easy way to split the string again
L609[14:12:41] <ZefTheFox> `modem.send(100, "string1", "string2", "string3")`
L610[14:12:42] <McMaarten> stdin:1: ')' expected near ';'
L611[14:12:55] <ZefTheFox> What you originally asked works
L612[14:13:11] <McMaarten> well
L613[14:13:37] <ZefTheFox> And delimiters are much more complicated than that
L614[14:13:49] <McMaarten> I noticed it
L615[14:15:04] <payonel> use zeros for delims
L616[14:15:07] <payonel> what could go wrong!? :)
L617[14:15:16] <McMaarten> xd
L618[14:16:39] <ZefTheFox> the way I usually have my modems communicate is having the first string be a code message, like what you want it to do, and the other strings be used for additional arguments
L619[14:17:03] <Skye> %tonk
L620[14:17:04] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Skye, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 25 minutes and 41 seconds this time.
L621[14:17:05] <MichiBot> 22 minutes and 48 seconds were wasted!
L622[14:17:10] <Skye> Oops
L623[14:17:14] <ZefTheFox> and if you reply to a modem message I suggest using `modem.send` and just giving it the from address of the `modem_message` event
L624[14:17:51] <Skye> If you want quick and lazy, serialising tables works
L625[14:18:18] <ZefTheFox> That's sometimes easier to work with
L626[14:18:36] <ZefTheFox> but for simple things multiple parts of a message works better imo
L627[14:19:56] <Skye> If you know you won't have more than 7 parts
L628[14:21:07] <ZefTheFox> Yeah, but for stuff like simple confirmations or pinging and stuff it's plenty
L629[14:21:32] <ZefTheFox> usually I structure mine with a code word or instruction first, then a table with information or strings depending on the code word
L630[14:22:23] <ZefTheFox> That also ensures rouge messages won't interfere usually
L631[14:23:06] <McMaarten> %tonk
L632[14:23:07] <MichiBot> I'm sorry McMaarten, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 25 minutes and 41 seconds this time.
L633[14:23:08] <MichiBot> 6 minutes and 2 seconds were wasted!
L634[14:23:16] <McMaarten> ?
L635[14:28:54] <payonel> %tonk
L636[14:28:55] <MichiBot> I'm sorry payonel, you were not able to beat Forecaster's record of 25 minutes and 41 seconds this time.
L637[14:28:56] <MichiBot> 5 minutes and 48 seconds were wasted!
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L639[14:37:45] <ZefTheFox> so I bruised my toe
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L641[14:39:24] <Forecaster> There's an app for that
L642[14:39:37] <Kleadron> is there an app for the app too
L643[14:40:23] <Forecaster> of course
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L646[15:02:24] * Izaya gives payonel a string containing \0
L647[15:02:25] <ZefTheFox> Is there an easy way to convert an id to the key it corrosponds to?
L648[15:03:42] <Forecaster> id? id of what?
L649[15:04:04] <ZefTheFox> The ID returned from the `key_up` and `key_down` events
L650[15:04:27] <Forecaster> ah
L651[15:04:46] <Forecaster> don't those also provide the character...
L652[15:04:55] <Forecaster> or am I thinking of JS
L653[15:05:26] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/ybx53vbu
L654[15:05:26] <ZefTheFox> They don't
L655[15:07:33] <Izaya> string.char(char)
L656[15:07:55] <Forecaster> that
L657[15:08:34] <ZefTheFox> ah
L658[15:10:03] <payonel> is that a CC disk drive? https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/1761-no-bootable-medium-found/#comment-8118
L659[15:10:23] <ZefTheFox> ***FUCKING YES IT IS!***
L660[15:10:27] <Forecaster> yeah...
L661[15:10:32] <payonel> https://oc.cil.li/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=https://puu.sh/C1PlN/0085912914.png&key=ee4a7470bdbe2d93eba37b6360836e233f2334face8c4247042d446a3ed14f6e
L662[15:10:34] <ZefTheFox> That is incredible
L663[15:11:05] <Forecaster> it's so ugly...
L664[15:11:44] <ZefTheFox> *I wrote a reply and when it posted I saw payonel already replied and now I'm embarrassed*
L665[15:11:59] <ZefTheFox> I can't tell if I can delete it
L666[15:12:57] <ZefTheFox> *I shouldn't of replied*
L667[15:13:02] <gerard> "im losing my mind"
L668[15:13:56] <Forecaster> just leave it, you both posted within a minute of eachother :P
L669[15:14:19] <ZefTheFox> *this is why I lurk*
L670[15:18:15] <gerard> same, I like sometimes the messages that fly over here. especially when somebody shows what they created
L671[15:19:44] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L672[15:19:45] <MichiBot> CompanionCube! You beat Forecaster's previous record of 25 minutes and 41 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L673[15:19:46] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 50 minutes and 49 seconds
L674[15:19:51] <Forecaster> aw
L675[15:20:00] <ZefTheFox> Why do the forums have 2 seperate systems of upvoting/downvoting?
L676[15:20:19] <CompanionCube> Forecaster: did i ninja your tonk
L677[15:20:23] <Forecaster> so you can upvote/downvote more of course
L678[15:21:32] <Forecaster> actually the arrow in the lower right are "reactions"
L679[15:22:02] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/yancj9tl
L680[15:23:55] <Lizzian> @ZefTheFox eh? could you clarify what you mean about the upvoat/downvoat
L681[15:24:06] <Lizzian> voat..... _sighs_
L682[15:24:18] <ZefTheFox> There is the upvote/downvote on the left side and then there is the one on the bottom right corner
L683[15:24:37] <Lizzian> could you screenshot an example?
L684[15:26:48] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/ybefxtac
L685[15:27:15] <ZefTheFox> Thanks
L686[15:27:25] <Forecaster> the lower left is just a "reaction" and probably doesn't count towards global scores
L687[15:27:26] <Lizzian> oh
L688[15:27:35] <Forecaster> I mean right
L689[15:27:49] <Lizzian> left side one is specific to that question, right side is the global stuff
L690[15:28:03] <ZefTheFox> the lower right seems to effect the user's "score" on the sight
L691[15:29:11] <Lizzian> yeah, that's the global stuff that goes on your profile. if you look in different section that isn't set up for questions then the left ones wont be there
L692[15:29:20] <ZefTheFox> weird
L693[15:29:53] <Forecaster> ah
L694[15:31:58] <ZefTheFox> when you're so lazy you don't bother looking into it when writing example code (me btw so I'm not dissing anyone) http://tinyurl.com/y8v44lnx
L695[15:33:12] <payonel> it is seconds
L696[15:33:30] <Forecaster> *(or is it)*
L697[15:33:40] <ZefTheFox> buh buh buuuuuuuh
L698[15:35:13] <ZefTheFox> I looked in the suggestions page and some of the posts are amazing
L699[15:35:29] <payonel> Inari: https://i.imgur.com/YgSI13Y.mp4
L700[15:35:58] <Inari> The heck is that
L701[15:36:17] <Forecaster> is fish
L702[15:36:22] <Inari> I thought that
L703[15:36:32] <Inari> but it looked so oddly shaped from the sdie making it look like a sppon
L704[15:36:45] <payonel> half spoon, half fish
L705[15:36:49] <payonel> a spish
L706[15:36:55] <ZefTheFox> You know whats better than `while true do`?
L707[15:37:09] <ZefTheFox> `while 1 < math.huge`
L708[15:38:02] <Forecaster> while 1 == 1
L709[15:38:23] <payonel> nah
L710[15:38:31] <ZefTheFox> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/fakuworige
L711[15:38:42] <payonel> ::top:: --[[..]]-- goto top
L712[15:45:02] <payonel> `::top:: --[[..]]-- goto top`
L713[15:45:29] <Tesca> hey, quick question, can drones/robots use special moves of items, like the aoe attack of the red matter katar or other things that activate via keyboard button press?
L714[15:45:31] <ZefTheFox> beuty
L715[15:45:42] <ZefTheFox> wtf did I type
L716[15:45:49] <payonel> @Tesca yes
L717[15:45:51] <payonel> in 1.12 dev builds
L718[15:45:56] <payonel> in our 1.7.3 patch release
L719[15:46:09] <payonel> which is ..... imminent
L720[15:46:22] <payonel> oh wait...
L721[15:46:30] <payonel> special moves? i only read part of what you said
L722[15:46:38] <payonel> i have no idea what a special move is ?
L723[15:46:51] <payonel> i was thinking, for example, of the aoe that the tinker hammar does
L724[15:47:14] <payonel> will this work with special action XYZ with mod ABC? no idea...mods do weird crap
L725[15:47:19] <payonel> test our dev build and let me know ?
L726[15:47:23] <ZefTheFox> An example would be changing modes on tools
L727[15:47:26] <Tesca> some items require certain keys to be pressed, like 'r' to reload the rocket launcher. etc
L728[15:47:30] <ZefTheFox> in like industrialcraft
L729[15:47:39] <payonel> yeah, that ain't happening
L730[15:48:04] <ZefTheFox> That'd be pretty difficult to implement I'd imagine
L731[15:48:19] <Tesca> ok, good to know ?
L732[15:52:58] <Michiyo> %dyncmd
L733[15:52:58] <MichiBot> Michiyo: dyncmd is enabled in this channel
L734[15:54:15] <Michiyo> %addcommand payo_foo [lua] function() print("hello") end
L735[15:54:15] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Command Added
L736[15:54:22] <Michiyo> %payo_foo
L737[15:54:22] <MichiBot> Michiyo: function: 0x7f942400e4e0
L738[15:54:29] <Michiyo> IDK how that works..
L739[15:54:30] <Michiyo> :D
L740[15:55:18] <Forecaster> it apparently just prints the contents of the string
L741[15:55:42] <Forecaster> maybe?
L742[15:55:51] <Michiyo> no, it prints the value of the function :P
L743[16:03:31] <ZefTheFox> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2LLXnUdUIc
L744[16:03:31] <MichiBot> Beginning Graphic Design: Color | length: 6m 32s | Likes: 59,264 Dislikes: 261 Views: 1,362,372 | by GCFLearnFree.org | Published On 5/10/2016
L745[16:03:36] <ZefTheFox> this is actually surprisingly good
L746[16:03:43] <Inari> The memory address of it :D
L747[16:04:23] <Forecaster> and the string contains the function, which it printed
L748[16:04:25] <Forecaster> :P
L749[16:04:40] <Forecaster> as opposed to calling the function
L750[16:07:19] <Inari> %inv add Forecaster's function
L751[16:07:20] * MichiBot summons 'Forecaster's function' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L752[16:08:23] <Kleadron> special abilities: crashes the whole system when fed the wrong input
L753[16:10:07] * Inari feeds Forecaster some sushi
L754[16:11:23] <Forecaster> I don't like sushi D:
L755[16:11:33] <Inari> Guess we're crashing the system then
L756[16:11:35] <Inari> Hold onto your seats
L757[16:12:24] <Kleadron> no
L758[16:12:34] <Kleadron> i dont want to hold on to my seat
L759[16:31:40] <Michiyo> %tonk
L760[16:31:40] <MichiBot> Michiyo! You beat CompanionCube's previous record of 50 minutes and 49 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L761[16:31:41] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 1 hour, 11 minutes and 55 seconds
L762[16:33:41] <payonel> %addcommand payo_foo [lua] "test"
L763[16:33:41] <MichiBot> payonel: Can't override existing commands.
L764[16:33:48] <payonel> %removecommand payo_foo
L765[16:33:55] <payonel> %delcommand payo_foo
L766[16:33:55] <MichiBot> payonel: Command deleted
L767[16:33:59] <payonel> %addcommand payo_foo [lua] "test"
L768[16:33:59] <MichiBot> payonel: Command Added
L769[16:34:01] <payonel> %payo_foo
L770[16:34:01] <MichiBot> payonel: test
L771[16:34:08] <payonel> dope
L772[16:36:15] <Michiyo> you can use arguments with $1-$... something I think
L773[16:36:23] <Michiyo> don't ask me how that works anymore.
L774[16:36:36] <payonel> %delcommand payo_foo
L775[16:36:37] <MichiBot> payonel: Command deleted
L776[16:37:45] <payonel> %addcommand payo_foo [lua] setmetatable({},{__tostring=function() return "do this thing" end})
L777[16:37:46] <MichiBot> payonel: Command Added
L778[16:37:51] <payonel> %payo_foo
L779[16:37:52] <MichiBot> payonel: do this thing
L780[16:37:55] <payonel> WOO!
L781[16:38:09] <payonel> %editcommand
L782[16:38:09] <MichiBot> payonel: Can't add new commands with edit!
L783[16:38:21] <ZefTheFox> how was the OC font created, like that image with all the characters
L784[16:39:01] <payonel> @ZefTheFox https://git.asie.pl/asie/funscii
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L786[16:40:40] <ZefTheFox> So that created the image that is in the assets?
L787[16:41:06] <payonel> we use that project for our font.hex
L788[16:41:11] <payonel> and we render the font based on those rules
L789[16:41:17] <payonel> what image are you referring to?
L790[16:41:43] <ZefTheFox> http://tinyurl.com/ycw9qrmr
L791[16:41:46] <ZefTheFox> This one
L792[16:41:58] <ZefTheFox> in textures/font
L793[16:42:14] <Izaya> Why do you repost it to Discord rather than just link to it >.>
L794[16:42:44] <ZefTheFox> Because I have it on my hard drive?
L795[16:43:12] <ZefTheFox> like I pulled that from the source code that I have downloaded
L796[16:43:20] <payonel> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/textures/font/chars.png
L797[16:43:41] <Izaya> Oh, that's faie
L798[16:44:20] <payonel> i believe we use those font glyphs to anti alias rendering in oc
L799[16:44:30] <ZefTheFox> because I wanted to try changing the font and doing it manually would take a *ton* of work
L800[16:44:41] <payonel> i would guess they are just improved symbols of what we would render with our core font.hex
L801[16:44:54] <payonel> that might intercept our font.hex rendering? i dont know, i haven't looked into this
L802[16:45:12] <ZefTheFox> oh I didn't even think that there was a font.hex
L803[16:45:23] <ZefTheFox> but either way that image must do something?
L804[16:46:45] <payonel> perhaps :)
L805[16:47:00] <payonel> if you want to do something custom, make a custom font.hex
L806[16:47:08] <Izaya> Would not surprise me if it were a leftover
L807[16:47:11] <payonel> but use the high unicodes, not those low ones
L808[16:47:17] <payonel> it could be
L809[16:47:41] <ZefTheFox> Would something like this generate a compatible hex? http://www.eran.io/the-dot-factory-an-lcd-font-and-image-generator/
L810[16:47:56] <ZefTheFox> actually
L811[16:47:59] <ZefTheFox> nvm, probably not
L812[16:51:13] <payonel> @ZefTheFox: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/application.conf#L39
L813[16:52:12] <payonel> if falst, it'll use chars_aliased.png
L814[16:52:14] <payonel> false*
L815[16:52:54] <ZefTheFox> So by default it just uses font.hex?
L816[16:53:20] <payonel> i believe if the char code is within that range, it uses the font engine
L817[16:53:25] <payonel> the, natural font engine
L818[16:53:32] <payonel> outside that range, we render by hand
L819[16:53:35] <payonel> i believe
L820[16:53:45] <ZefTheFox> interesting
L821[16:54:18] <payonel> this is going to be detailed in our client/renderer/font/DynamicFontRenderer.scala
L822[16:55:50] <payonel> assuming my guessing is entirely accurate, i suppose we could add a config option that would essentially mean: hand draw every single glyph
L823[16:55:59] <payonel> for those that want a completely custom font.hex, including that range
L824[16:56:14] <Temia> Moop
L825[16:56:28] <Temia> Hey Gamax, did you ever release any of your sound card utilities? :o
L826[16:56:41] <payonel> hi Temia
L827[16:56:58] <Temia> Hello!
L828[16:58:17] <MGR> %tonk
L829[16:58:17] <MichiBot> I'm sorry MGR, you were not able to beat Michiyo's record of 1 hour, 11 minutes and 55 seconds this time.
L830[16:58:18] <MichiBot> 26 minutes and 37 seconds were wasted!
L831[17:07:45] <ZefTheFox> I looked it up to try and find more info on the fonts.hex and I couldn't find much
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L833[17:19:15] <Kodos> So, I have a really funny joke, but it's NSFW so I dunno if I should say it here
L834[17:22:32] <Forecaster> How nsfw?
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L836[17:23:33] <Kodos> DM Me
L837[17:25:00] <AmandaC> /kickban kodos
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L840[17:29:41] <KatsFerDays> hi
L841[17:29:57] <KatsFerDays> anyone here?
L842[17:30:05] <ZefTheFox> no
L843[17:30:10] <ZefTheFox> >:
L844[17:30:19] <Kodos> Forecaster said I shouldn't post my joke ?
L845[17:30:23] <KatsFerDays> ...
L846[17:30:40] <Kodos> %ask
L847[17:30:47] <Kodos> Ah, we need that as a thing
L848[17:30:55] <Corded> * <Kodos> baps the bot
L849[17:31:08] <KatsFerDays> holy s*it, i'm talking with people on the internet through minecraft 1.7.10 (mind blown)
L850[17:31:36] <Kodos> Welcome to the future ?
L851[17:31:59] <KatsFerDays> but the past at the same time cause this is 1.7.10
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L856[18:26:08] <Michiyo> @Kodos it was a thing once upon a time.. I thought
L857[18:26:39] <Michiyo> %tonk
L858[18:26:39] <MichiBot> Michiyo! You beat Michiyo's previous record of 1 hour, 11 minutes and 55 seconds! I hope you're happy!
L859[18:26:40] <MichiBot> Michiyo's new record is 1 hour, 28 minutes and 21 seconds
L860[18:29:35] <Michiyo> %hello
L861[18:29:36] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L862[18:29:44] <Michiyo> Oh, it's in there..
L863[18:29:45] <Michiyo> right
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L865[18:32:52] <KatsFerDays> Hello World
L866[18:33:42] <payonel> KatsFerDays: hello kats
L867[18:33:55] <KatsFerDays> lol
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L876[19:08:01] <payonel> %tonk
L877[19:08:02] <MichiBot> I'm sorry payonel, you were not able to beat Michiyo's record of 1 hour, 28 minutes and 21 seconds this time.
L878[19:08:03] <MichiBot> 41 minutes and 22 seconds were wasted!
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L883[20:04:31] <arketec> question, does anyone know when the next release will be pushed to curse/twitch?
L884[20:05:07] <Mimiru> eventually
L885[20:05:24] <arketec> haha, I mean an est timeframe? if not i understand
L886[20:06:12] <Mimiru> Soon(tm)
L887[20:07:22] <arketec> alright, thanks for the meme. Ill keep an eye out
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L891[20:32:20] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L892[20:32:21] <MichiBot> I'm sorry CompanionCube, you were not able to beat Michiyo's record of 1 hour, 28 minutes and 21 seconds this time.
L893[20:32:22] <MichiBot> 1 hour, 24 minutes and 19 seconds were wasted!
L894[20:32:24] <CompanionCube> ffs
L895[20:36:37] <Kleadron> sff
L896[20:40:02] <logan2611> This isn't annoying: `* SASL authentication failed`
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L902[21:29:43] <Compu> hey is anyone here knowledgeable about pc building? i'm putting together a parts list for someone who already has a GPU and would look a second opinion (maybe a third or fourth too) on it
L903[21:29:45] <Compu> https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xMVJP3
L904[21:29:58] <Compu> i already checked to be sure their GPU will fit just fine
L905[21:31:56] <Compu> they asked for red/black colors so i did my best to follow that
L906[21:46:44] <Izaya> no spinning HDD?
L907[21:46:59] <Compu> he has one already
L908[21:47:10] <Izaya> oh okay
L909[21:47:17] <Compu> 2 actually
L910[21:47:20] <Izaya> ez
L911[21:47:26] <Compu> good build?
L912[21:47:38] <Izaya> nothing sticks out
L913[21:47:42] <Izaya> you
L914[21:47:51] <Izaya> re not doing an APU build so RAM speed doesn't matter nearly as much
L915[21:48:47] * Izaya wouldn't bother with the Windows on there, there's like 800 legitimate ways to get Windows for free, and that's ignoring the easier non-legitimate ways
L916[21:51:34] <Compu> i know of no free windows legitimate stuff
L917[21:51:57] <Izaya> might also want to consider going for the non-X version of the 1700, then overclock it to make up the 200Mhz difference, save $50
L918[21:52:02] <Compu> also i didn't choose based on RAM speed, i chose based on RAM amount, he wanted 32 GB for video editing and such
L919[21:52:14] <Izaya> there's a few ways involving like, hardware IDs and such
L920[21:52:54] <Compu> ?
L921[21:53:05] <Compu> also i don't do overclocking
L922[21:53:21] <Izaya> can also point it at a KMS server
L923[21:53:29] <Mimiru> %tonk
L924[21:53:30] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Mimiru, you were not able to beat Michiyo's record of 1 hour, 28 minutes and 21 seconds this time.
L925[21:53:31] <MichiBot> 1 hour, 21 minutes and 9 seconds were wasted!
L926[21:53:36] <Mimiru> nooooo
L927[21:53:52] <Izaya> though that's questionably legal
L928[21:54:17] <Compu> i think it might be best to just buy it here
L929[21:54:35] <Compu> normally i would recommend linux but they want warframe and that is completely impossible to run on linux
L930[21:54:47] <Izaya> battleye?
L931[21:54:51] <Compu> trying in wine or proton will make warframe ban ur account
L932[21:54:56] <Izaya> oh, good info
L933[21:54:57] <Compu> ?
L934[21:55:00] <Izaya> I installed it to try it out
L935[21:55:04] <Izaya> I'll uh... not.
L936[21:55:24] <Compu> yeah warframe really has dumb drm that checks windows system files and such and if anything is amiss u get banned
L937[21:55:40] <Izaya> how inconvenient
L938[21:55:47] <Izaya> oh well, there's some disk space to free up I guess
L939[21:57:19] <Compu> it's not even a temp ban either
L940[21:57:59] <Compu> which is a problem because what happens when windows 10 does an update that modifies some file it checks and the drm hasn't been updated to accept the new file yet
L941[21:58:04] <Compu> lots of bans
L942[21:58:06] <Izaya> kek
L943[21:58:13] <Izaya> tfw playing Elite: Dangerous in Proton right now
L944[21:58:25] <Compu> playing minecraft right now
L945[21:59:12] <Izaya> man MultiMC is in the AUR
L946[21:59:17] <Izaya> v convenient
L947[22:00:12] <Compu> unfortunately my server box has been dead for like a year now so my desktop is running the server and i have to play on my dumb windows 10 laptop
L948[22:00:31] <Izaya> feelsbad
L949[22:00:42] <Izaya> OpenGL on Windows has been getting progressively more potato from what I hear
L950[22:00:50] <Izaya> no matter, all will be replaced with Vulkan in time
L951[22:01:58] <Izaya> tfw DirectX 12 is DOA
L952[22:03:25] <Compu> i really wanna replace my server but haven't been able to
L953[22:04:50] <Izaya> what's kill?
L954[22:07:42] <CompanionCube> Izaya: DirectX will never be DOA
L955[22:08:04] <CompanionCube> MS has the 'fuck you, Windows!' card.
L956[22:08:13] <Izaya> CompanionCube: check GitHub and Wikipedia for projects supporting Vulkan vs projects supporting DirectX
L957[22:08:31] <Izaya> there's like 3 things using DX12 and 8 bajillion using Vulkan
L958[22:08:42] <Izaya> 99% of the DX12 things are first-party
L959[22:09:29] <CompanionCube> Izaya: >implying that's the target audience for DX12
L960[22:10:04] <Izaya> hey man I'm just saying
L961[22:10:09] <Compu> well with proton's DX to vulkan thing that's not as much of an issue
L962[22:10:22] <Izaya> I'm seeing literally everyone but Microsoft using Vulkan and Microsoft using DirectX 12
L963[22:10:48] <Izaya> And considering DX12 has ... let's say few advantages over Vulkan...
L964[22:10:55] <CompanionCube> indeed
L965[22:11:17] <Izaya> and especially considering Microsoft's slow and quiet war on anyone not in the Windows store...
L966[22:11:39] <Compu> seriously how have they not killed windows off with their dumb behavior yet?
L967[22:11:39] <Izaya> they're going to alienate the fucktards that felt a need to run their own store rather than just use Steam like civilised human beings
L968[22:11:57] <Compu> with the shitty updates and everything u would think it would be really badly dying now
L969[22:12:02] <Izaya> it's happening slowly
L970[22:12:26] <Compu> some linux distro needs to start funding ads or something
L971[22:12:31] <Izaya> I'm having "gamer" friends talking about switching
L972[22:12:34] <CompanionCube> Izaya: I still think that the sheer numbers of Windows devs means DX12 is not kill.
L973[22:12:40] <Compu> ubuntu is probably in the best position to do that
L974[22:12:58] <Izaya> CompanionCube: alright, DirectX is DOA unless you're Microsoft
L975[22:13:06] <Compu> CompanionCube: but those windows devs r devving for vulkan on windows
L976[22:13:19] <Izaya> because the way I see it, nobody cares about DX12 when Vulkan exists and works everywhere
L977[22:13:21] <Compu> oh u mean windows itself
L978[22:13:32] <Compu> ye
L979[22:13:44] <Compu> and i'm noticing more and more linux games on steam too
L980[22:14:02] <Izaya> proton is definitely helping with that, but at the same time
L981[22:14:03] <Compu> and once proton hits full release it'll likely be a big boon for linux gaming
L982[22:14:09] <Izaya> proton is full release tho
L983[22:14:10] <CompanionCube> Izaya: but the cross-platformmess is irrelevant to the people who will actually ise DX12
L984[22:14:15] <Compu> it is?
L985[22:14:22] <Compu> i thought it was still kinda open beta
L986[22:14:33] <Izaya> it's opt-in but in the mainline client, IIRC
L987[22:16:04] <CompanionCube> Vulkan is the One True Future/Now. But Microsoft won't let DirectX go until even the core userbase have embraced it.
L988[22:16:13] <CompanionCube> We haven't got there yet.
L989[22:16:27] <Izaya> engines using Vulkan are still in progress
L990[22:16:38] <Izaya> id tech is the only proper Vulkan engine right now
L991[22:16:57] <Izaya> and uh, good luck getting your hands on an SDK for that
L992[22:17:20] <Izaya> everything else is kinda bolted on so we won't see the full advantages of it for a while
L993[22:17:31] <Izaya> (I will say that the Vulkan build of Mad Max runs wonderfully)
L994[22:17:33] <CompanionCube> (Any future DirectX version is likely to be DOA though, if it even happsns.)
L995[22:19:32] <Izaya> in semi-related news
L996[22:19:47] <Izaya> after a solid 9 days of no communication, the ARK update dropped for Linux
L997[22:19:49] <Izaya> how nice
L998[22:20:08] <Izaya> everyone who couldn't play on servers for that long will have nothing left, but at least they got there I guess
L999[22:20:34] <CompanionCube> so rip all your shit?
L1000[22:21:46] <Izaya> nah man
L1001[22:21:52] <Izaya> I got wiped the day before the update
L1002[22:21:54] * Izaya taps forehead
L1003[22:22:15] <CompanionCube> maybe you can play one of the candice debebe games instead
L1004[22:22:40] <Izaya> ?
L1005[22:23:20] <CompanionCube> https://store.steampowered.com/app/453790/Candice_DeBbs_Incredibly_Trick_Lifestyle/
L1006[22:24:04] <Izaya> did Jim Sterling play this at one point
L1007[22:24:58] <CompanionCube> yes
L1008[22:25:14] <CompanionCube> and recently played the sequel
L1009[22:26:29] <CompanionCube> You could play it on shrooms and not notice a difference.
L1010[22:26:43] <Izaya> my favorite sort of sequel
L1011[22:27:44] <CompanionCube> Izaya: there is a difference in the sequel
L1012[22:27:59] <CompanionCube> it adds thematically shitty platformer levels
L1013[22:28:30] <Izaya> neat
L1014[22:28:48] <Compu> dafuq even
L1015[22:29:05] <CompanionCube> dafuq even what?
L1016[22:29:34] <Compu> what even is that game
L1017[22:30:10] <CompanionCube> Not even God knows that.
L1018[22:32:05] <CompanionCube> I have half a mind to give a copy to someone as a 'gift' ala bad rats when christmas or similar rolls around.
L1019[22:32:56] <Compu> why does it have so many positive reviews?!
L1020[22:57:30] <CompanionCube> Compu: internet was briefly kill. The reviews aren't serious.
L1021[23:15:13] <Mimiru> %tonk
L1022[23:15:13] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Mimiru, you were not able to beat Michiyo's record of 1 hour, 28 minutes and 21 seconds this time.
L1023[23:15:14] <MichiBot> 1 hour, 21 minutes and 43 seconds were wasted!
L1024[23:15:20] <Mimiru> AGAIN?!
L1025[23:15:35] <Mimiru> 1 hour, 21 minutes and 9 seconds were wasted! last time...
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L1027[23:27:57] <payonel> arketec: eta for next release?
L1028[23:28:07] <payonel> very soon
L1029[23:28:15] <payonel> before xmas
L1030[23:28:24] <payonel> probably before thanksgiving
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L1032[23:28:32] <payonel> but i'm busy atm testing a few things
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L1034[23:58:28] <payonel> gamax92: what's something luaj does wrong?
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