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L6[04:31:24] <MichiBot> Izaya REMINDER:
enable logging in znc
L7[05:21:46] <dequbed> Izaya: RADIUS is a
surprisingly complex protocol that becomes even more useful if you
want it to be even remotely useful. Look at something like SASL
(RFC2222). Simpler concepts lead to simpler implementation.
L8[05:21:57] <dequbed> even more
complex*
L9[05:22:20] <Izaya> dequbed: it looks
simple on the surface but then you realise that there's like 200
different attributes defined and a bunch of challenge methods
L10[05:23:34] <dequbed> Izaya: And you need
to implement 5 extensions before it actually even does
authentication. Or TCP. Or Proxying.
L11[05:25:22] <Izaya> Quality.
L12[05:27:04] <dequbed> No, it's a result
of how generic and extensible RADIUS was meant to be. But in
reality very few people use it that way.
L13[05:38:35] <Lizzian>
lol, you guys talking about RADIUS and i was just explaining stuff
about it to a colleague
<Lizzian>
lol, you guys talking about RADIUS and i was just explaining stuff
about it to a colleagueL14[05:39:17] <Lizzian>
%loot
<Lizzian>
%lootL15[05:39:18] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You get a
loot box! It contains a tiny packet of rubber bands.
L16[05:39:36] <Izaya> are you going to use
those
L17[05:39:47] <Izaya> dequbed: "it was
a great idea I swear"
L18[05:39:49] <dequbed> Yeah, despite all
the flak I like to give RADIUS it's pretty much the only EAP wire
protocol that's supported by major AP manufacturers.
L19[05:52:18] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> are there any good tools for finding lua
script errors
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> are there any good tools for finding lua
script errorsL20[05:52:30] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> are there any good tools for finding the
location of lua script errors [Edited]
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> are there any good tools for finding the
location of lua script errors [Edited]L21[05:52:44] <Izaya> the error lua gives
you is usually pretty useful
L22[05:53:35] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> yeah but It sometimes does not tell me the
line
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> yeah but It sometimes does not tell me the
lineL23[05:53:51] <Izaya> oh?
L24[05:54:25] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> like it says error after then
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> like it says error after thenL25[05:54:25] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> and I have multiple else if statements
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> and I have multiple else if statementsL26[05:55:37] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> like it says unexpected symbol near
'then'
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> like it says unexpected symbol near
'then'L27[05:55:38] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> and I have multiple else if statements
[Edited]
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> and I have multiple else if statements
[Edited]L28[05:55:57] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> so its hard to find out which one its talking
about
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> so its hard to find out which one its talking
aboutL29[05:57:05] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> nevermind fixed it
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> nevermind fixed itL30[05:59:24] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> I was able to add the printer functions to my
stargate code
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> I was able to add the printer functions to my
stargate codeL31[06:09:58] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> I have not seem much done with the drone in
this mod is it worth setting up
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> I have not seem much done with the drone in
this mod is it worth setting upL32[06:10:50] <MGR>
Depends on what you want to use it for
<MGR>
Depends on what you want to use it forL33[06:15:01] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> remote control how hard would that be
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> remote control how hard would that beL34[06:17:33] <MGR> Not
terribly hard
<MGR> Not
terribly hardL35[06:17:50] <MGR> You
can set up a dynamic command interpreter on the drone, and send
commands to it from a computer
<MGR> You
can set up a dynamic command interpreter on the drone, and send
commands to it from a computerL36[06:20:09] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> is there a way that I could see the drone in
a perspective view
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> is there a way that I could see the drone in
a perspective viewL37[06:20:22] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> I mean I doubt it but
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> I mean I doubt it butL38[06:20:38] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> that would make it more useful
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> that would make it more usefulL39[06:21:03] <MGR> You
attach your MC display to a drone?
<MGR> You
attach your MC display to a drone?L40[06:21:10] <MGR> So you
could see from its POV?
<MGR> So you
could see from its POV?L41[06:21:38] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> that could work
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> that could workL42[06:21:40] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> thanks
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> thanksL43[06:21:50] <MGR> Well,
you can't do that unfortunately ?
<MGR> Well,
you can't do that unfortunately ?L44[06:21:56] <Izaya> you could probably
use the Computronics camera and have it scanning and sending data
to a display
L45[06:22:01] <MGR> I was
just trying to confirm what you were looking at
<MGR> I was
just trying to confirm what you were looking atL46[06:22:20] <MGR> I
mean, technically that'd work, but it'd be slow
<MGR> I
mean, technically that'd work, but it'd be slowL47[06:22:44] <Izaya> quite
L48[06:24:25] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> sounds a bit difficult for a beginner
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> sounds a bit difficult for a beginnerL49[06:24:35] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> sounds a bit difficult for a beginner like me
[Edited]
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> sounds a bit difficult for a beginner like me
[Edited]L50[06:24:52] <MGR> Yeah,
seeing as how you'd have to store a render of every block in the
game
<MGR> Yeah,
seeing as how you'd have to store a render of every block in the
gameL51[06:27:09] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> yeah
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> yeahL52[06:27:19] <Izaya> you don't know what
the block is though
L53[06:27:21] <Izaya> just the
distance
L54[06:27:22] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> what about the drone bios
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> what about the drone biosL55[06:27:49] <MGR> Oh,
that both makes it simpler and worse
<MGR> Oh,
that both makes it simpler and worseL56[06:27:56] <MGR> Drone
BIOS?
<MGR> Drone
BIOS?L57[06:27:57] <Izaya> the one you're going
to write?
L58[06:28:16] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> what about the drone eeprom [Edited]
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> what about the drone eeprom [Edited]L59[06:28:35] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> dont you need one
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> dont you need oneL60[06:28:48] <MGR> You
have to write one yourself
<MGR> You
have to write one yourselfL61[06:29:17] <MGR> The
EEPROM is the sole source of programming for a drone. It has no
hard drive and OS
<MGR> The
EEPROM is the sole source of programming for a drone. It has no
hard drive and OSL62[06:30:27] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> ok
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> okL63[06:31:49] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> where is the drone api
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> where is the drone apiL64[06:32:11] <Izaya> ~w drone
L65[06:32:11] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:drone
L66[06:32:14] <Izaya> ~w custom os
L67[06:32:14] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L68[06:33:09] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> thanks
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> thanksL69[06:57:25] ⇨
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L70[07:06:19] <AmandaC> %choose try and
automate or meh
L71[07:06:19] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I
received a message from future you, said to go with meh.
L72[07:06:33] <AmandaC> %choose halucinate
or waves first or irradiate all day
L73[07:06:33] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I'm 40%
halucinate!
L74[07:06:58] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> how
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> howL75[07:06:58] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> can I set up this event to display the
message recieved
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> can I set up this event to display the
message recievedL76[07:06:58] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> sgMessageReceived
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> sgMessageReceivedL77[07:07:23] <MGR> You
can call a print statement with the arguments of the event
<MGR> You
can call a print statement with the arguments of the eventL78[07:07:37] <MGR>
print("Arg 1 is "..arg1.." Arg 2 is
"..arg2)
<MGR>
print("Arg 1 is "..arg1.." Arg 2 is
"..arg2)L79[07:07:42] <AmandaC> @"TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)" Your nick is back to being obnoxious
L80[07:08:02] <TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> right its cause I left and rejoined the
server
<TheAvPman
(CarbonFiber Mod)> right its cause I left and rejoined the
serverL81[07:09:28] <AvP>
here
<AvP>
hereL82[07:09:54] <MGR> Does
my suggestion do what you want?
<MGR> Does
my suggestion do what you want?L83[07:10:00] <MGR> Or are
you asking for something different?
<MGR> Or are
you asking for something different?L84[07:10:16] <AvP> I
think it does
<AvP> I
think it doesL85[07:10:33] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L86[07:17:19] <AvP> so
something like this
<AvP> so
something like thisL87[07:17:23] <AvP>
Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/isinayohiq
<AvP>
Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/isinayohiqL88[07:17:55] <MGR> I
believe so
<MGR> I
believe soL89[07:18:16] <AvP> its
erroring though
<AvP> its
erroring thoughL90[07:18:46] <AvP> syntax
error near sgMessageRecieved
<AvP> syntax
error near sgMessageRecievedL91[07:19:37] <MGR> Well,
that's not valid lua
<MGR> Well,
that's not valid luaL92[07:19:47] <MGR> I
didn't realize that was your actual code
<MGR> I
didn't realize that was your actual codeL93[07:20:06] <MGR> Is
printing the event going to be the only thing your program
does?
<MGR> Is
printing the event going to be the only thing your program
does?L94[07:20:15] <AvP>
yeah
<AvP>
yeahL95[07:20:23] <MGR>
Ok
<MGR>
OkL96[07:20:25] <AvP> I have
another to send the message
<AvP> I have
another to send the messageL97[07:20:30] <AvP> and do
other things
<AvP> and do
other thingsL98[07:20:34] <MGR> Then
you'd probably be best off using event.listen
<MGR> Then
you'd probably be best off using event.listenL99[07:20:42] <AvP>
ok
<AvP>
okL100[07:21:05] <MGR> Have a
function that takes the returned values of the event, and then
prints them
<MGR> Have a
function that takes the returned values of the event, and then
prints themL101[07:21:17] <MGR> Then
event.listen("sgMessageReceived", myfunction)
<MGR> Then
event.listen("sgMessageReceived", myfunction)L102[07:21:21] <MGR> And
you're good to go
<MGR> And
you're good to goL103[07:22:26] <Izaya> today in #oc:
"I didn't realise that was your actual code"
L104[07:22:32] <Izaya> it's happened like
4x today with different people
L105[07:23:58] <AvP> could
not find events in the docs
<AvP> could
not find events in the docsL106[07:24:06] <Izaya> ~w signals
L107[07:24:07] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:signals
L108[07:24:08] <Izaya> ~w event api
L109[07:24:09] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
L110[07:24:22] <AvP> found
it now
<AvP> found
it nowL111[07:24:23] <AvP>
but
<AvP>
butL112[07:29:30] <MGR>
"Under $Sup1’s orders, $Selben reported the company vehicle
stolen to $Gruntled’s local police department, updated his notes,
and closed the ticket. Within a couple days, $Gruntled was pulled
over by the police at gunpoint." --- Quote 1/2
<MGR>
"Under $Sup1’s orders, $Selben reported the company vehicle
stolen to $Gruntled’s local police department, updated his notes,
and closed the ticket. Within a couple days, $Gruntled was pulled
over by the police at gunpoint." --- Quote 1/2L113[07:40:05] ⇦
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L114[07:45:34] <AvP> @MGR
im a bit confused
<AvP> @MGR
im a bit confusedL115[07:46:00] <AvP> on the
subject of signals
<AvP> on the
subject of signalsL116[07:46:55] <AvP> im a
bit confused [Edited]
<AvP> im a
bit confused [Edited]L117[07:47:59] <MGR> What
confuses you?
<MGR> What
confuses you?L118[07:50:17] <AvP> I want
the payload right?
<AvP> I want
the payload right?L119[07:50:28] <Izaya> %remindme 12w
>
L120[07:50:29] <MichiBot> I'll remind you
about ">" at 01/08/2019 06:50:28 AM
L121[07:51:27] <MGR>
Yes?
<MGR>
Yes?L122[07:51:42] <AvP> is
this the right Idea
<AvP> is
this the right IdeaL123[07:51:45] <MGR> If
you're trying to print the details of the event, you'll need to
grab all the details
<MGR> If
you're trying to print the details of the event, you'll need to
grab all the detailsL125[07:52:11] <MGR>
No.
<MGR>
No.L126[07:52:36] <MGR> You're
listening to a Stargate message and a modem message???
<MGR> You're
listening to a Stargate message and a modem message???L127[07:52:50] <MGR> What
exactly is supposed to be happening?
<MGR> What
exactly is supposed to be happening?L128[07:53:21] <AvP> I knew
I was completely messing this up
<AvP> I knew
I was completely messing this upL129[07:53:44] <AvP> I am
trying to send a message between two open stargate
<AvP> I am
trying to send a message between two open stargateL130[07:53:50] <AvP> I am
trying to send a message between two open stargates [Edited]
<AvP> I am
trying to send a message between two open stargates [Edited]L131[07:55:16] <MGR>
Ok
<MGR>
OkL132[07:55:23] <MGR> How
does that work.
<MGR> How
does that work.L133[07:55:29] <AvP> I am
trying to send a message between two open stargates
<AvP> I am
trying to send a message between two open stargatesL134[07:55:29] <AvP> I got
the sending end now Im trying to make the recieving end
[Edited]
<AvP> I got
the sending end now Im trying to make the recieving end
[Edited]L135[07:55:30] <MGR> How
does that work? [Edited]
<MGR> How
does that work? [Edited]L136[07:55:43] <MGR> What
event comes out the other end?
<MGR> What
event comes out the other end?L137[07:56:01] <AvP> a
string
<AvP> a
stringL138[07:56:05] <AvP> I
think
<AvP> I
thinkL139[07:56:47] <AvP> a
string with a text message from the other end [Edited]
<AvP> a
string with a text message from the other end [Edited]L140[07:57:21] <AvP> the
stargate mod website kind of explains it
<AvP> the
stargate mod website kind of explains itL141[07:58:34] <MGR>
What?
<MGR>
What?L142[07:59:15] <AvP> sorry
I am terrible at explaining things
<AvP> sorry
I am terrible at explaining thingsL143[07:59:42] <AvP> the
event is
<AvP> the
event isL144[07:59:44] <AvP>
sgMessageReceived, source, arg, ...
<AvP>
sgMessageReceived, source, arg, ...L145[07:59:44] <AvP> A
message was sent from the connected stargate using the sendMessage
method
<AvP> A
message was sent from the connected stargate using the sendMessage
methodL146[08:01:09] <Izaya> does the stargate
need to be open to send a message
L147[08:01:37] <AvP>
yes
<AvP>
yesL148[08:02:18] <MGR>
Alright, so you don't need to listen to modem messages
<MGR>
Alright, so you don't need to listen to modem messagesL149[08:02:27] <AvP>
ok
<AvP>
okL150[08:04:31] <MGR> Part
of your code will look like this:
<MGR> Part
of your code will look like this:L152[08:05:08] <AvP>
oh
<AvP>
ohL153[08:05:16] <AvP> I get
it now
<AvP> I get
it nowL154[08:06:17] <MGR>
Great!
<MGR>
Great!L155[08:19:08] <MGR>
"He slowly turned to see $BadIntern attempting to secretly eat
a hoagie—the hoagie was half hiding in his sleeve—he froze upon
being spotted. $Snicker’s stomach rumbled in response, but he
ignored it and turned back to continue working. After a few minutes
his senses were again hit with a similar, yet different
overwhelming smell, and turned to see $BadIntern eating another
hoagie, from his other shirt sleeve." --- Quote 2/2
<MGR>
"He slowly turned to see $BadIntern attempting to secretly eat
a hoagie—the hoagie was half hiding in his sleeve—he froze upon
being spotted. $Snicker’s stomach rumbled in response, but he
ignored it and turned back to continue working. After a few minutes
his senses were again hit with a similar, yet different
overwhelming smell, and turned to see $BadIntern eating another
hoagie, from his other shirt sleeve." --- Quote 2/2L156[08:26:44] <AvP> wait
what event would I use
<AvP> wait
what event would I useL157[08:27:00] <AvP> wait
what event arg would I use [Edited]
<AvP> wait
what event arg would I use [Edited]L158[08:27:08] <AvP> to
receive the message
<AvP> to
receive the messageL159[08:27:12] <MGR> All of
the ones provided by sgMessageReceived
<MGR> All of
the ones provided by sgMessageReceivedL160[08:27:17] <MGR> I
don't know what those are
<MGR> I
don't know what those areL161[08:27:40] <MGR> just
type them as a comma separated list in the myFunction
declaration
<MGR> just
type them as a comma separated list in the myFunction
declarationL163[08:29:57] <MGR>
There's a ... afterwards ?
<MGR>
There's a ... afterwards ?L164[08:30:02] <MGR> Where
are you getting the docs from?
<MGR> Where
are you getting the docs from?L165[08:30:12] <AvP>
http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/greg.ewing/minecraft/mods/SGCraft/doc/ComputerCraft.html
<AvP>
http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/greg.ewing/minecraft/mods/SGCraft/doc/ComputerCraft.htmlL166[08:30:18] <MGR>
Because that's not listing all the arguments
<MGR>
Because that's not listing all the argumentsL167[08:31:21] <AvP>
yeah
<AvP>
yeahL168[08:32:10] <AvP> maybe
I am supposed to use name
<AvP> maybe
I am supposed to use nameL169[08:32:17] <AvP> do you
think that could work
<AvP> do you
think that could workL170[08:32:40] <MGR>
Alright, so, looking at it, it looks like you don't have to bother
with that interface at all
<MGR>
Alright, so, looking at it, it looks like you don't have to bother
with that interface at allL171[08:33:00] <MGR> Hook a
computer up with a wired network card on either end, and you can
just pass modem messages through the stargate
<MGR> Hook a
computer up with a wired network card on either end, and you can
just pass modem messages through the stargateL172[08:33:21] <MGR> And if
you want to do that, I can easily help you
<MGR> And if
you want to do that, I can easily help youL173[08:35:34] <AvP> so you
are saying that if I send a message from one end using my other
code It should automatically appear on the computer
<AvP> so you
are saying that if I send a message from one end using my other
code It should automatically appear on the computerL174[08:35:48] <AvP> so you
are saying that if I send a message from one end using my other
code It should automatically appear on the computer I am using now
[Edited]
<AvP> so you
are saying that if I send a message from one end using my other
code It should automatically appear on the computer I am using now
[Edited]L175[08:36:01] <MGR> I'm
not sure what your other code is, but normal networking code will
work fine
<MGR> I'm
not sure what your other code is, but normal networking code will
work fineL176[08:36:18] <MGR> The
stargate acts like a relay block when it is open
<MGR> The
stargate acts like a relay block when it is openL177[08:47:01] <Skye> I know Michiyo did
stuff with the stargate mod
L178[08:54:49] <Temia> On my way to my
consultation. I'm so nervous...
L179[08:55:19] <Forecaster>
good luck
<Forecaster>
good luckL180[08:56:48] *
vifino hugs Temia and does a double thumbsup
L181[08:56:51] <vifino> you got
this.
L182[09:04:45] <dequbed> Izaya: You
have/had a Moto X4, didn't you?
L183[09:04:57] <Izaya> G3
L184[09:05:35] <dequbed> Oh okay nvm
L185[09:06:47] <Temia> I'll do my
best
L186[09:11:00] <Mimiru> Skye, not *that*
Stargate mod.
L187[09:11:40] <Lizzian>
Temia You can do it!
<Lizzian>
Temia You can do it!L188[09:11:41] <Skye> Mimiru, ah
L189[09:12:32] <Corded> * <Lizzian>
wants to try reviving one of the stargate mods but doesn't have the
time or patience to learn how to make mods and then how to port
them
L190[09:12:56] <Mimiru> I really wish
Lochi hadn't over complicated LanteaCraft
L191[09:13:06] <Mimiru> cause I don't
understand any of it now.. lol
L192[09:13:11] <Lizzian>
:/
<Lizzian>
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servers
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L200[13:04:20] <Inari> .
L201[13:04:47] *
AmandaC meows at Inari
L202[13:04:55] <Inari> AmandaC: And yet
you claim all that catnip isn't an issue
L203[13:05:29] <AmandaC> Inari: but halp
,I'm out of story to halucinate
L204[13:05:44] <AmandaC> I'm now current
on two stories
L205[13:08:17] <AmandaC> also, it's
amazing what happens when you download the full chapter of a book.
This ebook went from ~90 pages to 421 according to my
ereader.
L206[13:08:46] <AmandaC> Turns out, the
old code only downloaded the first "page" of each
chapter. :D
L207[13:08:47] <Inari> You really seemt o
like reading
L208[13:08:53] <AmandaC> It
L209[13:08:59] <AmandaC> 's a nice
distraction when I'm in the mood for it
L210[13:09:14] <Inari> A 36 hour day
distraction
L211[13:10:24] <AmandaC> meow?
L212[13:10:30] <AmandaC> Failed to parse
that
L213[13:10:41] <Inari> As in. It's a
distraction that eats 36 hours of your 24 hour day
L214[13:10:42] <Inari> :p
L215[13:11:08] <AmandaC> I see
L216[13:11:28] <AmandaC> I suppose it
could work, if you assume the time in the story is faster, with my
reading speed
L217[13:11:28] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L218[13:11:28] *
MichiBot pets AmandaC with 50 petting units. 6 health
gained!
L219[13:11:56] <Inari> Hm
L220[13:12:00] <Inari> I wanted to do
something
L221[13:12:02] <Inari> But i forgot
what
L222[13:45:50] <payonel> o/
L223[13:56:00] <rashy>
\o
<rashy>
\oL224[14:25:50] <Inari> %pet @rashy
L225[14:25:50] *
MichiBot brushes @rashy with nep. 8 health gained!
L226[14:26:00] <rashy>
❤
<rashy>
❤L227[15:40:31] <AmandaC> %choose
halucinate more or mlemp mlemp mlemp
L228[15:40:32] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I
received a message from future you, said to go with mlemp mlemp
mlemp.
L229[15:41:27] <AmandaC> Hrm. Actually,
I'll do it later. I'm not in the mood to sit in the rain
L230[15:42:33] <Lizzian>
lol, on discord those arrived in the wrong order
<Lizzian>
lol, on discord those arrived in the wrong orderL231[16:41:04] <Brisingr
Aerowing> Happens a lot.
<Brisingr
Aerowing> Happens a lot.L233[17:40:04] <Kleadron>
whats that
<Kleadron>
whats thatL234[17:40:10] <Kleadron>
it looks cool
<Kleadron>
it looks coolL235[17:40:33] ⇦
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L236[17:43:07] <ZefTheFox>
My attempt at a gui based "operating system"
<ZefTheFox>
My attempt at a gui based "operating system"L237[17:43:16] <ZefTheFox>
it'd be better described as a shell for openos
<ZefTheFox>
it'd be better described as a shell for openosL238[17:49:36] <ZefTheFox>
Is there a way to copy files from the command line without it
asking you if you want to override files?
<ZefTheFox>
Is there a way to copy files from the command line without it
asking you if you want to override files?L239[17:50:13] <MGR>
There's an option for that
<MGR>
There's an option for thatL240[17:50:26] <MGR> Type
cp by itself and it'll say what that option is
<MGR> Type
cp by itself and it'll say what that option isL242[17:52:03] ⇦
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L243[17:52:37] <Kleadron>
use -n i think
<Kleadron>
use -n i thinkL244[17:52:55] <ZefTheFox>
I want it to override files though
<ZefTheFox>
I want it to override files thoughL245[17:53:19] <Kleadron>
oh wait
<Kleadron>
oh waitL246[17:53:27] <Kleadron>
that isnt what i thought it was
<Kleadron>
that isnt what i thought it wasL247[17:53:29] <Kleadron>
nvm
<Kleadron>
nvmL248[17:55:54] <Izaya> -u would probably
work
L249[17:55:59] <Izaya> on a real system
you'd use -f
L250[17:59:49] <ZefTheFox>
It still prompts
<ZefTheFox>
It still promptsL251[17:59:56] <ZefTheFox>
eh it's close enough
<ZefTheFox>
eh it's close enoughL253[18:03:31] <ZefTheFox>
The top right of the shutdown window is a secret button to close
the shell
<ZefTheFox>
The top right of the shutdown window is a secret button to close
the shellL254[18:03:35] <ZefTheFox>
and return to openos
<ZefTheFox>
and return to openosL255[18:03:57] <ZefTheFox>
just so I don't have to terminate it
<ZefTheFox>
just so I don't have to terminate itL256[18:31:16] <payonel> cp -f ...
L257[18:31:19] <payonel> won't ask for
confirmation
L258[18:39:59] <ZefTheFox>
Yes it does
<ZefTheFox>
Yes it doesL259[18:40:15] <ZefTheFox>
In 1.7.10 open computers -f does nothing
<ZefTheFox>
In 1.7.10 open computers -f does nothingL260[18:47:16] <payonel> first of all, i
don't do openos features based on the mc version. so saying
"in 1.7.10" doesn't mean anything
L261[18:47:43] <payonel> secondly, unless
you are using our dev builds, you're arguing in the wrong context
:)
L262[18:48:30] <payonel> thirdly...it does
work :) i just tested it again
L264[18:57:53] <ZefTheFox>
If you can't view that image I will post it to imgur
<ZefTheFox>
If you can't view that image I will post it to imgurL266[18:59:22] <ZefTheFox>
posted it there anyways
<ZefTheFox>
posted it there anywaysL267[19:00:18] <Compu>
maybe -y?
<Compu>
maybe -y?L268[19:00:26] <ZefTheFox>
I tried it, doesn't change it
<ZefTheFox>
I tried it, doesn't change itL269[19:00:48] <Compu>
hmm
<Compu>
hmmL270[19:01:03] <ZefTheFox>
The 1.7.10 version of open computers, at least the one I'm running
(which should be the latest) has openos 1.7.2
<ZefTheFox>
The 1.7.10 version of open computers, at least the one I'm running
(which should be the latest) has openos 1.7.2L271[19:01:20] <ZefTheFox>
Which has different features than the 1.10 version, which I don't
remember right now
<ZefTheFox>
Which has different features than the 1.10 version, which I don't
remember right nowL272[19:01:31] <ZefTheFox>
I'm not innept
<ZefTheFox>
I'm not inneptL273[19:01:40] <payonel> dev builds
L274[19:01:48] <payonel> https://ci.cil.li/
L275[19:02:01] <payonel> also, what
feature do you have in 1.10 that you dont have in 1.7.10?
L276[19:02:07] <payonel> that would be a
bug
L277[19:02:42] <Compu>
according to the docs in the cp file itself it's supposedly
supposed to overwrite by default?
<Compu>
according to the docs in the cp file itself it's supposedly
supposed to overwrite by default?L278[19:02:54] <Compu> cuz
theres a -i option that's supposed to be prompt to overwrite
<Compu> cuz
theres a -i option that's supposed to be prompt to overwriteL279[19:02:56] <ZefTheFox>
It prompts to
<ZefTheFox>
It prompts toL280[19:03:05] <Compu> what
does -i do?
<Compu> what
does -i do?L281[19:03:08] <payonel> compu: cp is
aliased to cp -i
L282[19:03:21] <payonel> /bin/cp would not
use -i
L283[19:03:34] <payonel> it prompts
to...because you're not using dev builds
L284[19:03:38] <payonel> Izaya: halp
L285[19:04:06] <Izaya> Huh?
L286[19:04:14] <ZefTheFox>
interesting
<ZefTheFox>
interestingL287[19:04:28] <Compu> try
plan9kos? it seems to have a more elaborate copy command
<Compu> try
plan9kos? it seems to have a more elaborate copy commandL288[19:04:32] <payonel> Izaya: i've tried
to explain the difference in release builds and dev builds
L289[19:04:34] <Compu> try
plan9k os? it seems to have a more elaborate copy command
[Edited]
<Compu> try
plan9k os? it seems to have a more elaborate copy command
[Edited]L290[19:04:38] <payonel> ....
L291[19:05:01] <ZefTheFox>
You said "dev builds" and that's it
<ZefTheFox>
You said "dev builds" and that's itL292[19:05:15] <ZefTheFox>
afterwards you said it's because I'm not using dev builds
<ZefTheFox>
afterwards you said it's because I'm not using dev buildsL293[19:05:16] <payonel> if you are using
our release builds from curseforge, you cannot expect the things i
say to match up
L294[19:05:23] <Izaya> dev builds are
automatically built and may be unstable but have the latest
features
L295[19:05:27] <ZefTheFox>
Alright, thank you
<ZefTheFox>
Alright, thank youL296[19:05:36] <Izaya> Release builds are
stable ones that may be out of date
L297[19:06:03] <ZefTheFox>
Well I'm using release builds because they're more stable and
because its easier to tell my friends which version to
download
<ZefTheFox>
Well I'm using release builds because they're more stable and
because its easier to tell my friends which version to
downloadL298[19:06:23] <Compu>
@ZefTheFox does plank9k os have the force option>
<Compu>
@ZefTheFox does plank9k os have the force option>L299[19:06:25] <Compu>
@ZefTheFox does plank9k os have the force option? [Edited]
<Compu>
@ZefTheFox does plank9k os have the force option? [Edited]L300[19:06:39] <ZefTheFox>
I'm not designing this for plan9k
<ZefTheFox>
I'm not designing this for plan9kL301[19:06:42] <payonel> plan9k is
horribly outdated, and we're going to drop it in 1.8
L302[19:06:48] <payonel> just...fyi
L303[19:06:51] <ZefTheFox>
I *think* plan9k has different apis
<ZefTheFox>
I *think* plan9k has different apisL304[19:06:53] <payonel> it is also very
slow
L305[19:07:08] <payonel> sangar added `-i`
to the cp alias ages ago
L306[19:07:11] <payonel> and i didn't want
to remove that
L307[19:07:20] <ZefTheFox>
I mean it's a cool idea having 2 operating systems by default
<ZefTheFox>
I mean it's a cool idea having 2 operating systems by defaultL308[19:07:36] <payonel> irl, and i know
this is weird, `cp -i -f arg1 arg2` still prompts
L309[19:07:38] <payonel> which is
lame
L310[19:07:46] <payonel> but...i try to
make openos do irl things
L311[19:08:02] <ZefTheFox>
openos is pretty good I'd say
<ZefTheFox>
openos is pretty good I'd sayL312[19:08:02] <payonel> anyways, there
was enough people asking for -f to REALLY force it, AND i didn't
want to remove the -i from the alias
L313[19:08:04] <payonel> so i made an
exception
L314[19:08:21] <payonel> and now, in
openos (dev builds), `cp -i -f ...` does not prompt
L315[19:09:38] <payonel> plan9k was ahead
of its time, and is now abandon-ware
L316[19:09:47] <payonel> also, openos does
everything plan9k added, plus more
L317[19:09:49] <payonel> plus faster
L318[19:09:53] <payonel> plus lower
mem
L319[19:10:11] <payonel> also, a lot of
people are making their own os's or flavors of openos
L320[19:10:28] <payonel> so i think there
are plenty from the community to help people see that you can do
your own thing
L321[19:10:29] <ZefTheFox>
I tried using plan9k at one point, imo it just isn't as good
<ZefTheFox>
I tried using plan9k at one point, imo it just isn't as goodL322[19:10:36] <payonel> plan9k came at a
time when that was much less obvious
L323[19:11:03] <ZefTheFox>
I'm nowhere close to being capable of making a true os for it, so
for now I'm making a gui
<ZefTheFox>
I'm nowhere close to being capable of making a true os for it, so
for now I'm making a guiL324[19:13:11] <ZefTheFox>
I've been trying to convince my friends to try programming with
it
<ZefTheFox>
I've been trying to convince my friends to try programming with
itL325[19:15:43] <AvP> What
are the best open computers addons or mods that are compatible with
open computers
<AvP> What
are the best open computers addons or mods that are compatible with
open computersL326[19:16:07] <ZefTheFox>
I personally love computronics
<ZefTheFox>
I personally love computronicsL327[19:16:22] <payonel> @ZefTheFox well,
for what it is worth :) i learned lua to let me make openos
:)
L328[19:16:54] <ZefTheFox>
I originally learned lua with computercraft, was reluctant to
switch to opencomputers until I saw how much better it was
<ZefTheFox>
I originally learned lua with computercraft, was reluctant to
switch to opencomputers until I saw how much better it wasL329[19:16:57] <payonel> also...i didn't
make openos <= 1.5
L330[19:17:20] <ZefTheFox>
I still believe computercraft is better for begginers but
opencomputers is amazing if you know what you're doing
<ZefTheFox>
I still believe computercraft is better for begginers but
opencomputers is amazing if you know what you're doingL331[19:17:25] <payonel> but >= 1.6 is
different enough that i tend to take a bit of extra credit
L332[19:17:49] <payonel> also, sangar is
okay with me saying that :) heh
L333[19:18:01] <payonel> AvP: kind of
depends on the mc version
L334[19:18:16] <payonel> in 1.7.10 we had
a lot of mod support
L335[19:18:23] <payonel> it got shaky or
removed in 1.10 and 1.11
L336[19:18:31] <payonel> but i've fixed a
ton of things in 1.12 (dev builds)
L337[19:18:36] <ZefTheFox>
Computronics is for 1.7.10 through to 1.12.1
<ZefTheFox>
Computronics is for 1.7.10 through to 1.12.1L338[19:19:04] <payonel> oh i have to run
(/afk)
L339[19:19:20] <AvP>
1.10.2
<AvP>
1.10.2L340[19:19:31] <AvP> I have
my server on
<AvP> I have
my server onL341[19:19:34] <ZefTheFox>
Yes it includes that version
<ZefTheFox>
Yes it includes that versionL342[19:19:43] <AvP>
Link
<AvP>
LinkL343[19:19:53] <ZefTheFox>
already ahead of you
<ZefTheFox>
already ahead of youL344[19:20:51] <AmandaC> %choose yes or
later
L345[19:20:52] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Once
you get a taste of later you can't stop.
L346[19:27:36] <AvP> I was
looking for open computers mods and found this
<AvP> I was
looking for open computers mods and found thisL347[19:27:37] <AvP>
https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/discraft-the-unofficial-minecraft-discord?gameCategorySlug=mc-mods&projectID=296568
<AvP>
https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/discraft-the-unofficial-minecraft-discord?gameCategorySlug=mc-mods&projectID=296568L348[19:27:37] <AvP> I did
not even know something like that was possible
<AvP> I did
not even know something like that was possibleL349[19:30:30] <Izaya> We've had IRC mods
and plugins for years, what's new?
L350[19:30:47] <Izaya> Besides the shitty
platform that one talks to, anyway
L351[19:32:28] <AvP> Hey
its still cool
<AvP> Hey
its still coolL352[19:33:55] <ZefTheFox>
If I push a key event will openos think that a key was
pushed?
<ZefTheFox>
If I push a key event will openos think that a key was
pushed?L353[19:34:08] <ZefTheFox>
I couldn't get that to work from what I've tried so far
<ZefTheFox>
I couldn't get that to work from what I've tried so farL354[19:35:33] <Izaya> That said, last I
checked, the options for an IRC mod for 1.12 were ... lacking
L355[19:56:16] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> micropython (WIP)
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> micropython (WIP)L356[20:04:24] <Kleadron>
Why don't you make an IRC mod yourself?
<Kleadron>
Why don't you make an IRC mod yourself?L357[20:10:21] <Izaya> I'm allergic to
java
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you should be alergic to minecraft then
<Kleadron>
you should be alergic to minecraft thenL360[20:11:04] ⇦
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L361[20:12:07] <Izaya> probably
L362[20:12:07] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> nope
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> nopeL363[20:12:41] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> Minecraft (Bedrock edition)
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> Minecraft (Bedrock edition)L364[20:13:25] <Izaya>
s/Bedrock/Pocket/
L365[20:13:25] <MichiBot> <EcmaXp (SkyBox)> Minecraft (Pocket
edition)
<EcmaXp (SkyBox)> Minecraft (Pocket
edition)L366[20:13:29] <Izaya> trash
L367[20:13:30] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> wow
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> wowL368[20:13:34] <Izaya> and doesn't run on
any worthwhile platform
L369[20:16:46] <ZefTheFox>
Well technically android is a branch of linux
<ZefTheFox>
Well technically android is a branch of linuxL370[20:16:51] <ZefTheFox>
So linux?
<ZefTheFox>
So linux?L371[20:17:06] <Izaya> android is not
GNU/Linux
L372[20:17:32] <Izaya> I do not think very
highly of Android, even though it's the most reasonable mobile OS
presently
L373[20:18:50] <ZefTheFox>
Alright, well that's what I heard of it
<ZefTheFox>
Alright, well that's what I heard of itL374[20:20:03] <Izaya> (that is to say,
Android is linux-based, for now, but it's not the same as desktop
linux at all)
L375[20:27:05] <CompanionCube> apparently
youtube is presently kill.
L376[20:27:12] <Izaya> Oh okay
L377[20:27:23] <Izaya> Was wondering why
mpv was having a hard time
L378[20:27:36] <CompanionCube> (500s and
weird refreshes level of kill.)
L379[20:28:12] *
Izaya tries again
L380[20:28:14] <Izaya> mpv works fine
now
L381[20:28:43] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> wow
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> wowL382[20:28:44] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> Bots talk to each other.
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> Bots talk to each other.L383[20:29:03] <CompanionCube> huh?
L384[20:29:03] <Izaya> yeah it's odd to
watch Corded talk to Corded
L385[20:29:10] <Izaya> isn't it,
CompanionCube? :P
L386[20:29:17] <CompanionCube> ikr
L387[20:29:33] <CompanionCube> maybe it's
become sapient :3
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L390[20:32:35] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> here is some python
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> here is some pythonL391[20:33:04] ⇦
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L392[20:33:33] <CompanionCube> I believed
you for a second there :P
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L394[21:17:20] <payonel> @ZefTheFox yes
you can fake events with push
L395[21:17:31] <payonel> in fact, openos
has no real way of knowing it is faked
L396[21:17:50] <payonel> when you push, it
is pushed to the underlying machine, and the machine then queues
and said signal is pulled
L397[21:17:52] <ZefTheFox>
alright good, I'll try making an onscreen keyboard then
sometime
<ZefTheFox>
alright good, I'll try making an onscreen keyboard then
sometimeL398[21:18:07] <payonel> so, this is not
openos specific
L399[21:18:13] <ZefTheFox>
and then I can sell tablets without keyboards
<ZefTheFox>
and then I can sell tablets without keyboardsL400[21:18:26] <payonel> @ZefTheFox also,
you mentioned earlier that some features in openos are not the same
between mc versions. do you have an example?
L401[21:19:02] <ZefTheFox>
Not a specific example that I can remember, but I tried moving a
program I had made in 1.7.10 to 1.10 and it errored out
<ZefTheFox>
Not a specific example that I can remember, but I tried moving a
program I had made in 1.7.10 to 1.10 and it errored outL402[21:19:20] <payonel> unless it was mod
specific, that should not be the case
L403[21:19:21] <ZefTheFox>
That was awhile ago though
<ZefTheFox>
That was awhile ago thoughL404[21:19:28] <payonel> i merge
everything in openos over all versions
L405[21:19:31] <ZefTheFox>
I wouldn't know
<ZefTheFox>
I wouldn't knowL406[21:19:56] <payonel> well, you should
be able to expect it to be the same
L407[21:20:00] <payonel> otherwise, it is
a bug
L408[21:20:18] <ZefTheFox>
The way my title bars are set up makes the file manager look like
"X-File manager" http://tinyurl.com/yd29ef7v
<ZefTheFox>
The way my title bars are set up makes the file manager look like
"X-File manager" http://tinyurl.com/yd29ef7vL409[21:20:22] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> ?
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> ?L410[21:20:54] <Kleadron>
X-File
<Kleadron>
X-FileL411[21:21:03] <Kleadron>
The X Files
<Kleadron>
The X FilesL412[21:21:41] <ZefTheFox>
Now I've got no idea how I'm going to do scrolling
<ZefTheFox>
Now I've got no idea how I'm going to do scrollingL413[21:21:57] <ZefTheFox>
I've been programming for over 5 hours
<ZefTheFox>
I've been programming for over 5 hoursL414[21:33:23] <Z0idburg> i
never thought I'd see the day youtube went down
<Z0idburg> i
never thought I'd see the day youtube went downL415[21:34:12] <Z0idburg>
@ZefTheFox I'd use the IBM code page
<Z0idburg>
@ZefTheFox I'd use the IBM code pageL416[21:34:12] <Z0idburg>
?
<Z0idburg>
?L417[21:34:18] <Z0idburg>
if I were doing a GUI
<Z0idburg>
if I were doing a GUIL418[21:34:27] <Z0idburg>
code page 437
<Z0idburg>
code page 437L419[21:34:31] <Z0idburg>
it's available on unicode
<Z0idburg>
it's available on unicodeL420[21:34:39] <Z0idburg>
parts of it
<Z0idburg>
parts of itL421[21:35:04] <ZefTheFox>
I can barely deal with standard keyboard characters
<ZefTheFox>
I can barely deal with standard keyboard charactersL422[21:35:08] <ZefTheFox>
maybe later
<ZefTheFox>
maybe laterL423[21:35:27] <Z0idburg>
OC takes unicode
<Z0idburg>
OC takes unicodeL424[21:35:41] <ZefTheFox>
I know
<ZefTheFox>
I knowL425[21:36:01] <Z0idburg>
But anyways the reason I'd use 437
<Z0idburg>
But anyways the reason I'd use 437L426[21:36:09] <Z0idburg>
is so that the windows actually looked like DOS
<Z0idburg>
is so that the windows actually looked like DOSL427[21:36:39] <ZefTheFox>
maybe later
<ZefTheFox>
maybe laterL428[21:37:00] <Izaya> google is freaking
out
L429[21:37:04] <Izaya> post independent
thought
L430[21:39:16] <Z0idburg>
yay back up
<Z0idburg>
yay back upL431[21:39:25] <Z0idburg>
that was like an hour of downtime unbelievable for google
<Z0idburg>
that was like an hour of downtime unbelievable for googleL432[21:39:35] <Izaya> I hope it happens a
few more times
L433[21:39:56] <Z0idburg>
hahaha
<Z0idburg>
hahahaL434[21:40:06] <Z0idburg>
well I work at a telephone company
<Z0idburg>
well I work at a telephone companyL435[21:40:14] <Z0idburg>
and I say it's going to happen again
<Z0idburg>
and I say it's going to happen againL436[21:40:18] <Izaya> the less people
believe the constant-ness of their google overlords the
better
L437[21:40:59] <Z0idburg>
WHY did everything break today
<Z0idburg>
WHY did everything break todayL438[21:41:04] <Z0idburg>
you know what I did today?
<Z0idburg>
you know what I did today?L439[21:41:32] <Z0idburg> I
walked into work, coworker says, hey we got some power outages
genmerator is up small wind storm no big deal
<Z0idburg> I
walked into work, coworker says, hey we got some power outages
genmerator is up small wind storm no big dealL440[21:41:35] <Z0idburg>
he leaves
<Z0idburg>
he leavesL441[21:41:40] <Z0idburg>
2.5 minutes later
<Z0idburg>
2.5 minutes laterL442[21:41:54] <Z0idburg>
HOLY SHIT WE JUST LOST HALF THE INTERNET
<Z0idburg>
HOLY SHIT WE JUST LOST HALF THE INTERNETL443[21:42:09] <Z0idburg>
least that's what it felt like
<Z0idburg>
least that's what it felt likeL444[21:42:27] <Z0idburg>
phone calls to tech support start rolling in
<Z0idburg>
phone calls to tech support start rolling inL445[21:42:32] <Z0idburg>
while other shit is breaking
<Z0idburg>
while other shit is breakingL446[21:43:12] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> WHAT
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> WHATL447[21:43:21] <Izaya> oof
L448[21:46:08] <Z0idburg>
yeah, so then things get quiet at the end of the day
<Z0idburg>
yeah, so then things get quiet at the end of the dayL449[21:46:19] <Z0idburg> I
have errands to do today, get home, youtube is broke
<Z0idburg> I
have errands to do today, get home, youtube is brokeL450[21:46:21] <Z0idburg>
XD
<Z0idburg>
XDL451[21:46:30] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> sad
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> sadL452[21:46:39] <Z0idburg>
but it looks up now
<Z0idburg>
but it looks up nowL453[21:46:42] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> now i can't listen touhou music
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> now i can't listen touhou musicL454[21:47:12] <Z0idburg>
yeah so here's the thing
<Z0idburg>
yeah so here's the thingL455[21:47:29] <Z0idburg>
you should never trust anybody with a hammer or an escavator
<Z0idburg>
you should never trust anybody with a hammer or an escavatorL456[21:47:39] <Z0idburg>
know why?
<Z0idburg>
know why?L457[21:47:45] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> cut the wire?
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> cut the wire?L458[21:47:54] <Z0idburg>
yeah that happens all the time
<Z0idburg>
yeah that happens all the timeL459[21:48:45] <Z0idburg>
"Hi my name is foobar from the department of transportation we
just hit somebody's NID with an excavator and it tore the phone
line right out of the side of the house
<Z0idburg>
"Hi my name is foobar from the department of transportation we
just hit somebody's NID with an excavator and it tore the phone
line right out of the side of the houseL460[21:50:08] <Z0idburg>
or "Hey look no Internet or phone service in an entire area.
goes out to look.. oh hey, seems like there's a cable cut at 10,000
feet down the wire according to my readings... oh hey look there's
a speed limiit sign that wasn't here before RIGHT AT THAT
SPOT
<Z0idburg>
or "Hey look no Internet or phone service in an entire area.
goes out to look.. oh hey, seems like there's a cable cut at 10,000
feet down the wire according to my readings... oh hey look there's
a speed limiit sign that wasn't here before RIGHT AT THAT
SPOTL461[21:50:18] <Z0idburg> I
wonder who did it? ?
<Z0idburg> I
wonder who did it? ?L462[21:50:35] <Z0idburg> I
wonder what happened... ? [Edited]
<Z0idburg> I
wonder what happened... ? [Edited]L463[21:50:45] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> (Edited)
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> (Edited)L464[21:51:03] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL465[21:51:36] <Z0idburg> I
hear a lot of stories
<Z0idburg> I
hear a lot of storiesL466[21:51:51] <Z0idburg>
"Hey I just ran over the underground wiring pedestal in a dump
truck"
<Z0idburg>
"Hey I just ran over the underground wiring pedestal in a dump
truck"L467[21:52:47] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> Sharkkkkk
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> SharkkkkkL468[21:53:11] <Z0idburg>
Guess who gets blamed every time
<Z0idburg>
Guess who gets blamed every timeL469[21:53:26] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> Service provider
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> Service providerL470[21:53:28] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> always
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> alwaysL471[21:53:29] <Z0idburg>
yep
<Z0idburg>
yepL472[21:53:33] <Z0idburg>
we do
<Z0idburg>
we doL473[21:53:42] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> or ISP
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> or ISPL474[21:53:58] <Kodos>
Ecma, what do you think SP stands for in ISP
<Kodos>
Ecma, what do you think SP stands for in ISPL475[21:54:17] <Z0idburg>
today we got blamed because they were able to access porn and it
wasnt blocked
<Z0idburg>
today we got blamed because they were able to access porn and it
wasnt blockedL476[21:54:22] <Z0idburg>
they said they wanted to call the police
<Z0idburg>
they said they wanted to call the policeL477[21:54:34] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> ehh
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> ehhL478[21:54:36] <EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> .
<EcmaXp
(SkyBox)> .L479[21:54:39] <Kodos> Did
you tell them to go ahead?
<Kodos> Did
you tell them to go ahead?L480[21:54:45] <Z0idburg> I
didn't talk to them
<Z0idburg> I
didn't talk to themL481[21:54:52] <Kodos>
Ah
<Kodos>
AhL482[21:54:56] <Z0idburg>
But I'm sure
<Z0idburg>
But I'm sureL483[21:55:03] <Kodos>
Where i'm from, filing a false report is heavily punishable
<Kodos>
Where i'm from, filing a false report is heavily punishableL484[21:55:18] <Z0idburg> I
don't think that's a false report
<Z0idburg> I
don't think that's a false reportL485[21:55:49] <Z0idburg>
that was probably somebody legitimately thinking that all porn is
ilegal
<Z0idburg>
that was probably somebody legitimately thinking that all porn is
ilegalL486[21:56:02] <Z0idburg>
and didn't understand why they were able to access it
<Z0idburg>
and didn't understand why they were able to access itL487[21:56:25] <Z0idburg>
little did they know if we blocked porn on the Internet we'd
probably get more calls about it than calls like theirs.
<Z0idburg>
little did they know if we blocked porn on the Internet we'd
probably get more calls about it than calls like theirs.L488[21:56:43] <Z0idburg>
and they would probably be hilariously awkward
<Z0idburg>
and they would probably be hilariously awkwardL489[21:57:07] <Izaya> can't block all the
porn anyway
L490[21:57:19] <Izaya> do they intend to
block
L491[21:57:26] <Z0idburg>
"Oh, you're having truble accessing a website? whats the
website URL, what did you search for in google?"
<Z0idburg>
"Oh, you're having truble accessing a website? whats the
website URL, what did you search for in google?"L492[21:57:27] <Izaya> facebook? twitter?
tumblr? deviantart?
L493[21:58:30] <Z0idburg>
there's porn on youtube
<Z0idburg>
there's porn on youtubeL494[21:58:40] <Z0idburg>
some of it is encoded in slow scan TV
<Z0idburg>
some of it is encoded in slow scan TVL495[21:58:45] <Z0idburg>
apparently
<Z0idburg>
apparentlyL496[21:59:10] <Izaya> neat
L497[21:59:25] <Izaya> also
L498[21:59:30] <Izaya> >every file
sharing site ever
L499[21:59:35] <Z0idburg>
either way, its up to the customer to block shit
<Z0idburg>
either way, its up to the customer to block shitL500[21:59:37] <Z0idburg>
not the ISP
<Z0idburg>
not the ISPL501[21:59:44] <Izaya> yeah exactly
L502[22:00:07] <AmandaC> don't forget sexy
stories, better block all of unicode and ansi as well
L503[22:00:13] <Izaya> ^
L504[22:00:14] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL505[22:00:25] <Izaya> what about ASCII
art
L506[22:00:27] <Izaya> better block
ASCII
L507[22:00:35] <AmandaC> er, ASCII is what
I meant
L508[22:00:37] <Z0idburg>
?
<Z0idburg>
?L509[22:00:43] <Kleadron>
does dial up have net neutrality
<Kleadron>
does dial up have net neutralityL510[22:00:47] <Z0idburg>
ascii porn is dialup friendly
<Z0idburg>
ascii porn is dialup friendlyL511[22:00:56] <Izaya> do phones,
S3?
L512[22:00:59] <Z0idburg>
speaking of dialup
<Z0idburg>
speaking of dialupL513[22:01:22] <Kleadron>
dial up modems in opencomputers when
<Kleadron>
dial up modems in opencomputers whenL514[22:01:36] <Z0idburg> I
saw an ilegal copyright infringment alarm come in today on somebody
torrenting movies on dialup
<Z0idburg> I
saw an ilegal copyright infringment alarm come in today on somebody
torrenting movies on dialupL515[22:01:38] <Z0idburg>
...
<Z0idburg>
...L516[22:01:45] <Kleadron>
lmao
<Kleadron>
lmaoL517[22:01:49] <Izaya> what
L518[22:01:59] <Z0idburg>
funny thing is, a guy like that can't easily say "my friends
did it on my wifi"
<Z0idburg>
funny thing is, a guy like that can't easily say "my friends
did it on my wifi"L519[22:02:03] <Izaya> did they seed 300
bits of a movie?
L520[22:02:13] <Z0idburg>
probably
<Z0idburg>
probablyL521[22:02:22] <AmandaC>
"alarm"
L522[22:02:22] <Z0idburg> I
didn't investigate it
<Z0idburg> I
didn't investigate itL523[22:03:09] <CompanionCube> if you
blocked porn by default you'd just be the same as most UK
ISPs
L524[22:03:14] *
AmandaC imagines a klaxon, red flashing lights, men pouring out of
the wiring closet to mobilise to arrest the person downloading
The_Little_Mermaid.320p.blueray
L525[22:03:15] <Z0idburg>
Yes AmandaC, every time you download shit and you get caught, we
receive an alarm from an email from the people that caught
you
<Z0idburg>
Yes AmandaC, every time you download shit and you get caught, we
receive an alarm from an email from the people that caught
youL526[22:03:26] <Z0idburg>
for example, MGM records might email us
<Z0idburg>
for example, MGM records might email usL527[22:03:30] <Izaya>
s/blueray/VHSRip/
L528[22:03:30] <MichiBot> * AmandaC
imagines a klaxon, red flashing lights, men pouring out of the
wiring closet to mobilise to arrest the person downloading
The_Little_Mermaid.320p.VHSRip
L529[22:03:30] <Z0idburg>
or some agent oif
<Z0idburg>
or some agent oifL530[22:03:37] <Z0idburg>
or some agent of [Edited]
<Z0idburg>
or some agent of [Edited]L531[22:03:50] *
AmandaC likes her imagination's version better
L532[22:04:14] <Z0idburg>
there's no way to catch you live and we don't care
<Z0idburg>
there's no way to catch you live and we don't careL533[22:04:26] <Z0idburg>
but if somebody reports it we see all of it
<Z0idburg>
but if somebody reports it we see all of itL534[22:04:48] <CompanionCube> isn't that
only for torrents
L535[22:04:51] <Z0idburg>
"Says here you downloaded backdoor sluts IX.fmv..."
<Z0idburg>
"Says here you downloaded backdoor sluts IX.fmv..."L536[22:05:02] <Z0idburg>
no it is for anything but most of them are torrents
<Z0idburg>
no it is for anything but most of them are torrentsL537[22:05:21] <CompanionCube> htf do you
detect random http downloads
L538[22:05:31] <Z0idburg>
some companies will have people sit in a peer group
<Z0idburg>
some companies will have people sit in a peer groupL539[22:05:33] <Izaya> torrents are fairly
easy to trace
L540[22:05:41] <Izaya> if you're watching
trackers
L541[22:05:45] <Z0idburg>
and reocrd people who are seeding, lookup information and then send
some email to abuse@ or something
<Z0idburg>
and reocrd people who are seeding, lookup information and then send
some email to abuse@ or somethingL542[22:06:06] <Z0idburg>
they don't care if you're seeding or downloading
<Z0idburg>
they don't care if you're seeding or downloadingL543[22:06:55] <CompanionCube> Izaya: so
is anything p2p if you poison the swarm as above
L544[22:06:58] <Z0idburg> I
used to handle this crap two jobs ago
<Z0idburg> I
used to handle this crap two jobs agoL545[22:07:01] *
Izaya nods
L546[22:07:09] <CompanionCube> but glhf
detecting non-p2p shit
L547[22:07:28] <Z0idburg> I
had one person from another country (NZ I think) argue with me that
in their country popcorn time is legal
<Z0idburg> I
had one person from another country (NZ I think) argue with me that
in their country popcorn time is legalL548[22:07:41] <Z0idburg>
"Yeah well you're in the US and you need to abide by US
law.."
<Z0idburg>
"Yeah well you're in the US and you need to abide by US
law.."L549[22:07:48] <Z0idburg>
she kept arguing
<Z0idburg>
she kept arguingL550[22:08:09] <Izaya> kek
L551[22:08:13] <AmandaC> if you know of a
ip/dns name for some major repository of some copywritten material,
you can easily detect that too
L552[22:08:35] <CompanionCube> AmandaC:
only if you can mitm and/or pwn things
L553[22:08:41] <AmandaC> I'm convinced
that Comcast is mitm-ing dns
L554[22:08:51] <AmandaC> I have no idea
how to test it though
L555[22:09:14] <Z0idburg>
amandaC I have an idea
<Z0idburg>
amandaC I have an ideaL556[22:09:46] <Z0idburg>
wait no it wouldn't do shit
<Z0idburg>
wait no it wouldn't do shitL557[22:09:50] <CompanionCube> it's a
shame transparent proxies for DNS are possible and not very
detectable
L558[22:09:56] <Kodos> Holy
shit that wasabi is good
<Kodos> Holy
shit that wasabi is goodL559[22:10:01] <Z0idburg> I
was going to say could you fingerprint / sign the data
<Z0idburg> I
was going to say could you fingerprint / sign the dataL560[22:10:06] <Izaya> dnssec?
L561[22:10:10] <Z0idburg>
but then again if it's an MITM for them it may not do shit
<Z0idburg>
but then again if it's an MITM for them it may not do shitL562[22:10:20] <CompanionCube> you could
do dnscrypt
L563[22:10:28] <CompanionCube> or
dns-over-tls
L564[22:10:30] <Z0idburg>
true
<Z0idburg>
trueL565[22:10:43] <Z0idburg>
but that doesn't help her prove that comcast is mitming dns
<Z0idburg>
but that doesn't help her prove that comcast is mitming dnsL566[22:10:53] <Z0idburg>
that just circumvents it
<Z0idburg>
that just circumvents itL567[22:11:02] <AmandaC> That's not
widespread yet, is it?
L568[22:11:11] <CompanionCube> cloudflare
has a resolver for it
L569[22:11:18] <CompanionCube> i
think
L570[22:11:21] <Izaya> pick your
poison
L571[22:11:21] <Brisingr
Aerowing> Nom.
<Brisingr
Aerowing> Nom.L572[22:11:21] <Brisingr
Aerowing> I love double chocolate muffins.
<Brisingr
Aerowing> I love double chocolate muffins.L573[22:11:30] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
unbound can do it too
L574[22:11:57] <Z0idburg>
I'm assuming comcast wouldn't ever alter DNS
<Z0idburg>
I'm assuming comcast wouldn't ever alter DNSL575[22:12:05] <CompanionCube> haha
lol
L576[22:12:07] <Collateral_Damage_Man> Hey fellow
OCers
<Collateral_Damage_Man> Hey fellow
OCersL577[22:12:08] <Z0idburg>
just use the data for its own purposes
<Z0idburg>
just use the data for its own purposesL578[22:12:14] <Collateral_Damage_Man> Need a hand if
someone could spare me one
<Collateral_Damage_Man> Need a hand if
someone could spare me oneL579[22:12:32] <CompanionCube> They've
done http code injection before
L580[22:12:35] <Izaya> I'm pretty sure
it's required for australian ISPs to log all DNS requests through
their servers for 3 years
L581[22:12:53] <Izaya> Collateral:
"Don't ask to ask, just ask"
L582[22:12:55] <Mimiru>
@Collateral_Damage_Man don't ask to ask, just ask
L583[22:12:58] <Collateral_Damage_Man> Playing FTB
Revelation 2.5.0. I built a drone with a configured EEPROM and it's
telling me that there is no bootable medium
<Collateral_Damage_Man> Playing FTB
Revelation 2.5.0. I built a drone with a configured EEPROM and it's
telling me that there is no bootable mediumL584[22:13:07] <Collateral_Damage_Man> Same for servers in
racks
<Collateral_Damage_Man> Same for servers in
racksL585[22:13:23] <CompanionCube> Izaya: in
the UK ISPs may or may not be required to store a list of the
domains you connect to for 1yr
L586[22:13:28] <Izaya> Well, if you're
using the Lua BIOS there's no devices to boot from in a drone
L587[22:13:30] <AmandaC> @Z0idburg they
have (had?) an option for some bullshit like "INternet
Improvement" where they override NXDOMAIN to their shitty
search engine which we had to call to turn off when we first
switched to them like... gods 8-9 years ago now
L588[22:13:41] <Z0idburg>
@Collateral_Damage_Man usually that means there's an error in the
program
<Z0idburg>
@Collateral_Damage_Man usually that means there's an error in the
programL589[22:13:47] <Izaya> and in a server I
imagine you haven't put any drives with an OS installed in
L590[22:13:49] <Collateral_Damage_Man> I had to format a
hard drive from a working computer and put it into the server to
get it to run
<Collateral_Damage_Man> I had to format a
hard drive from a working computer and put it into the server to
get it to runL591[22:13:51] <CompanionCube> shit's
gonna happen when the inevitable leak occurs
L592[22:13:56] <Izaya> yup
L593[22:13:59] <Izaya> that's how it
works
L594[22:14:24] <Collateral_Damage_Man> Even if I copy a
configured EEPROM?
<Collateral_Damage_Man> Even if I copy a
configured EEPROM?L595[22:14:31] <CompanionCube> (Especially
considering that one major ISP had a notable breach via sqli)
L596[22:14:49] <CompanionCube> by a
teenager iirc
L597[22:14:50] <Izaya> the EEPROM just has
the bootloader
L598[22:14:57] <Collateral_Damage_Man> Seems kind of odd
that the EEPROM configured with the manual and connected to a disk
drive wouldn't load
<Collateral_Damage_Man> Seems kind of odd
that the EEPROM configured with the manual and connected to a disk
drive wouldn't loadL599[22:15:05] <Collateral_Damage_Man> I dunno
<Collateral_Damage_Man> I dunnoL600[22:15:09] <Collateral_Damage_Man> Maybe I missed
something
<Collateral_Damage_Man> Maybe I missed
somethingL601[22:15:26] <Collateral_Damage_Man> And now I have a
dead drone on the floor and no way to remove him
<Collateral_Damage_Man> And now I have a
dead drone on the floor and no way to remove himL602[22:15:40] <Z0idburg>
lol
<Z0idburg>
lolL603[22:15:43] <Izaya> shift-rightclick
(with a scrench?) to pick up the drone
L604[22:15:53] <Izaya> once you write some
firmware for it you can craft it with a new EEPROM to replace
it
L605[22:16:02] <Collateral_Damage_Man> I need a
drink...
<Collateral_Damage_Man> I need a
drink...L606[22:16:17] <CompanionCube> qotd circa
2016: 'TalkTalk's chief executive was blackmailed after a
17-year-old boy boasted about hacking its website'
L607[22:16:20] <Z0idburg>
AmandaC, I think one of the problem with many of the fundamental
network tools is that they are too gullable
<Z0idburg>
AmandaC, I think one of the problem with many of the fundamental
network tools is that they are too gullableL608[22:16:35] <Z0idburg>
it's too easy to MITM them.
<Z0idburg>
it's too easy to MITM them.L609[22:16:58] <Z0idburg> I
think it'd be call to have a DNS server sign your queries
<Z0idburg> I
think it'd be call to have a DNS server sign your queriesL610[22:17:11] <CompanionCube> is that not
dnssec\/
L611[22:17:18] <Z0idburg>
No idea.
<Z0idburg>
No idea.L612[22:17:22] <Z0idburg> I
don't know anything about dnssec
<Z0idburg> I
don't know anything about dnssecL613[22:17:29] <AmandaC> dnssec is just
"I'm the authority for this domain, and my word is
law"
L614[22:17:45] <AmandaC> nothing to do
with preventing MITM monitoring at least
L615[22:18:00] <Z0idburg>
signing wouldn't prevent monitoring either
<Z0idburg>
signing wouldn't prevent monitoring eitherL616[22:18:06] <Z0idburg>
it would only prevent tampering
<Z0idburg>
it would only prevent tamperingL617[22:18:15] <Z0idburg>
if you want to prevent monitoring I'd suggest encrypting it
<Z0idburg>
if you want to prevent monitoring I'd suggest encrypting itL618[22:18:32] <Z0idburg> I
care more about preventing tampering than monitoring
<Z0idburg> I
care more about preventing tampering than monitoringL619[22:19:22] <Z0idburg>
if you ask the ISP to access something your ISP shoul dbe
honest
<Z0idburg>
if you ask the ISP to access something your ISP shoul dbe
honestL620[22:25:02] <ZefTheFox>
So I spent a couple hours making a file explorer
<ZefTheFox>
So I spent a couple hours making a file explorerL621[22:25:10] <ZefTheFox>
It works for the most part
<ZefTheFox>
It works for the most partL622[22:25:32] <ZefTheFox>
It's slow and the directory up feature doesn't work
<ZefTheFox>
It's slow and the directory up feature doesn't workL623[22:25:44] <Izaya> ~w fs
L624[22:25:44] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem
L625[22:25:45] <ZefTheFox>
You can only run files with it
<ZefTheFox>
You can only run files with itL626[22:26:02] <Izaya>
filesystem.segments
L627[22:26:18] <Izaya> remove the last
item, reassemble it, you have one folder up
L628[22:26:46] <ZefTheFox>
That will probably work better
<ZefTheFox>
That will probably work betterL629[22:26:59] <ZefTheFox>
I was trying filesystem.path
<ZefTheFox>
I was trying filesystem.pathL630[22:29:17] <Compu>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/218782891558174720/501953429548171265/IMG_20181016_210247.jpg
<Compu>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/218782891558174720/501953429548171265/IMG_20181016_210247.jpgL631[22:43:55] <ZefTheFox>
oh
<ZefTheFox>
ohL632[22:45:41] <Z0idburg>
b
<Z0idburg>
bL633[23:00:53] <AmandaC> %choose be good
or don't
L634[23:00:53] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I spy
with my robotic eye something beginning with don't!
L635[23:37:47] <AmandaC> %tell inari I
blame you if I lose my sanity. I've had one of those like
7second-loopimg-songs-repeated-for-10h stuck in my head for like,
half of today
L636[23:37:47] <MichiBot> AmandaC: inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
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