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L3[00:21:06] <Saphire> https://minecraft.net/en-us/article/programmers-play-minecrafts-inner-workings
L4[00:21:08] <Saphire> Holy fuck
L5[00:22:29] <Izaya> it's nothing
L6[00:22:36] <Izaya> Two libraries
L7[00:22:50] <Saphire> Yeah
L8[00:22:55] <Izaya> One simple af, the
other only useful in the context of minecraft
L9[00:22:55] <Saphire> ... Just utils
L10[00:29:37] 
<Brisingr
Aerowing> I'm having the most interesting bug: I'm in Creative
and Survival at the same time. I can fly and I don't take damage,
but I can't access the Creative inventory or place blocks, and the
various survival meters show on the screen. Running /gamemode c
puts me into proper Creative mode. I don't know what's causing
it.
<Brisingr
Aerowing> I'm having the most interesting bug: I'm in Creative
and Survival at the same time. I can fly and I don't take damage,
but I can't access the Creative inventory or place blocks, and the
various survival meters show on the screen. Running /gamemode c
puts me into proper Creative mode. I don't know what's causing
it.L11[00:30:53] <Saphire> Spectator?
L12[00:31:55] <Brisingr
Aerowing> Nope.
<Brisingr
Aerowing> Nope.L13[00:32:33] <Brisingr
Aerowing> I exist in the world, and can interact with blocks and
mobs, but hostile mobs don't attack.
<Brisingr
Aerowing> I exist in the world, and can interact with blocks and
mobs, but hostile mobs don't attack.L14[00:32:44] <Brisingr
Aerowing> It's weird.
<Brisingr
Aerowing> It's weird.L16[00:50:06] <Izaya> why do they call it a
gifv and not just a webm or mp4
L17[00:59:56] <ba7888b72413a16a> because
imgur had to be special
L18[01:00:24] <ba7888b72413a16a> you know
what they should have done
L19[01:00:38] <ba7888b72413a16a> just added
basic video settings to HTTP headers
L20[01:00:51] <ba7888b72413a16a>
Video-Options: loop, mute
L21[01:01:00] <ba7888b72413a16a> boom, no
more gifv
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L23[02:41:15] <Forecaster>
owl though
<Forecaster>
owl thoughL24[04:02:57] <Mettaton_Fab> what do oyu even use to play
gifv?
<Mettaton_Fab> what do oyu even use to play
gifv?L25[04:04:14] <Wuerfel_21>
web browser. IIRC gifv is just an HTML file with a video tag
<Wuerfel_21>
web browser. IIRC gifv is just an HTML file with a video tagL26[05:41:01] <Willy> Hey
, I am getting this error every time I get so far from my computer
that the game unloads its chunk, Is it a bug or am I doing
something wrong? http://tinyurl.com/yav7yyfq
<Willy> Hey
, I am getting this error every time I get so far from my computer
that the game unloads its chunk, Is it a bug or am I doing
something wrong? http://tinyurl.com/yav7yyfqL27[05:41:58] <Forecaster>
I think that's a bug
<Forecaster>
I think that's a bugL28[05:42:20] <Forecaster>
I've had that happen with microcontrollers in 1.7.10
<Forecaster>
I've had that happen with microcontrollers in 1.7.10L29[05:43:55] <Willy>
oh
<Willy>
ohL30[05:44:03] <Willy> did
you find any fix or workaround it?
<Willy> did
you find any fix or workaround it?L31[05:44:10] <Forecaster>
nope
<Forecaster>
nopeL32[05:44:42] <Forecaster>
the only "workaround" is "don't let the chunks
unload"
<Forecaster>
the only "workaround" is "don't let the chunks
unload"L33[05:45:08] <Willy> I
will tr to get one of those chunk loader mods hahaha
<Willy> I
will tr to get one of those chunk loader mods hahahaL34[06:10:10] ⇨
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L38[06:15:34] <Death4200> Sup
L39[06:18:00] <MichiBot> AmandaC REMINDER:
figure out what I am missing for qemu on the lappy
L40[06:20:04] <Death4200> what are you guys
doin
L41[06:23:32] <Forecaster>
chillaxing
<Forecaster>
chillaxingL42[06:28:34] <Death4200> im makin some
robots and expanding my base rn at mc
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L46[07:27:59] <Inari> https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/cardfight/images/0/0e/Moth-chan.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150719174943
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L48[07:35:11] <vifino> Izaya: did you test
the ansi output yet
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L50[07:39:03] <Bob en chaise
roulante brulante> :GWmythsBlobGlare:
<Bob en chaise
roulante brulante> :GWmythsBlobGlare:L51[07:42:02] <Temia> Cute moth c:
L52[07:42:14] <Inari> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/415/724/a75.jpg
L53[07:43:19] <Inari> Temia: https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/apmKdxM_460s.jpg
;3
L54[07:43:59] *
Temia baps :T
L55[07:44:32] <Bob en chaise
roulante brulante> :GWmythsBlobGlare:
<Bob en chaise
roulante brulante> :GWmythsBlobGlare:L56[07:49:30] <Temia> Also... wouldn't that
HURT?
L57[07:54:04] <vifino> pretty sure it
would.
L58[07:54:14] <CheeseAlmighty> Y-yes. _But I'd be mostly
concerned about an intestinal rupture and subsequent sepsis._
<CheeseAlmighty> Y-yes. _But I'd be mostly
concerned about an intestinal rupture and subsequent sepsis._L59[07:54:25] <Corded> *
<CheeseAlmighty> Delightfully followed by death.
L60[07:54:38] <CheeseAlmighty> ~~I'm very much fun at
parties, thank you~~
<CheeseAlmighty> ~~I'm very much fun at
parties, thank you~~L61[07:55:31] <vifino> are you studying the
medical field?
L62[07:57:12] <CheeseAlmighty> Was working in ER, quit me
job, now enrolling to be neurosurg
<CheeseAlmighty> Was working in ER, quit me
job, now enrolling to be neurosurgL63[07:57:35] <vifino> ah, figured the
former.
L64[07:58:06] *
Lizzy hmms, seems to have lost her raid card
L65[07:58:30] <vifino> .. how do you loose
a raid card?
L66[07:58:32] <Forecaster>
well, you're not allowed to participate in raids until you apply
for a new one then
<Forecaster>
well, you're not allowed to participate in raids until you apply
for a new one thenL67[07:58:51] <Lizzy> by putting it
somewhere when i took it out of my pc then not remembering where i
put it
L68[07:58:51] <vifino> damn, that's
harsh
L69[07:59:00] <vifino> you
L70[07:59:02] <vifino> ..
L71[07:59:05] <vifino> you're a
doofus.
L72[07:59:20] <Lizzy> it's in my room
somewhere
L73[07:59:20] <Temia> It's okay, Return to
Ivalice isn't done yet
L74[07:59:26] <Lizzy> because i haven't
taken it out
L75[08:00:50] <vifino> i also just figured
out it's lose.
L76[08:00:59] <vifino> lose vs loose, damn
you!
L77[08:01:19] <Temia> Yeah, if she loosed
it she'd have a whole other set of problems
L78[08:01:35] <vifino> ?_?
L79[08:01:54] <Temia> It's synonymous for
throwing when used as a verb
L80[08:02:04] <vifino> aaaah
L81[08:02:15] <vifino> thank you Temia
<3
L82[08:02:31] <Temia> You're welcome
c:
L83[08:02:56] <Lizzy> i have the mini-SAS
to 4x SATA connection cable, but not the raid card....
L84[08:02:57] <vifino> unrelated, but
fancy: made something https://puu.sh/BH6Bb/0c5ac158d1.png
L85[08:03:41] <vifino> made an ANSI-escape
based output for my led matrix code, so now all the fancy effects
that run on my led matrices and monitors now run on truecolor and
unicode compatible terminals
L86[08:03:57] <vifino> gotta say, it worked
out better than i thought
L87[08:06:16] <vifino> if one had a more
square text spacing, it'd probably work out really good.
L88[08:06:47] <vifino> but meh, it's a
little streched, but it works fine, so..
L89[08:06:48] <Lizzy> well, i've managed to
find some network wall port things that i thought i'd lost a while
back
L90[08:06:58] <vifino> lol
L91[08:07:07] <Forecaster>
was it in the wall?
<Forecaster>
was it in the wall?L92[08:09:28] <vifino> man, switching
window managers really isn't something that happens easily
L93[08:10:00] <vifino> i went from a tiling
one to a floating one, tags/window groups instead of
workspaces..
L94[08:10:09] <vifino> dunno if i like
it.
L95[08:10:46] <Lizzy> found it!
L96[08:11:01] <Lizzy> t'was in the very
back of my bottom drawer
L97[08:11:10] <vifino> it has it's
benefits. it is rather easy to keep things very aesthetic
L98[08:11:17] <vifino> Lizzy: woo
L99[08:12:37] <Lizzy> now, does my home
server actually have enough SATA power connectors to run any more
drives
L100[08:14:12] <Lizzy> it does
not...
L101[08:14:24] <vifino> that reminds me, i
should probably get my workstation up to speed
L102[08:15:35] <Lizzy> well, there goes my
idea to stick another drive in this thing
L103[08:15:37] <Lizzy> oh well
L104[08:16:17] <Lizzy> one day i will find
an actual use for this RAID card
L105[08:20:13] <vifino> ZFS raidz
<3
L106[08:20:28] <vifino> as an hba, those
cards are useful though
L107[08:21:47] <vifino> well, til that my
keybinds repeat, so if super+t ever gets stuck, i'll spawn a
billion terminals
L108[08:21:52] <vifino>
thisisfine.jpg
L109[08:23:33] <vifino> also, i'm pretty
sure overclocking the intel gpu in this thinkpad has brought some
issues with it
L110[08:24:09] <vifino> in an alternate
version: i don't think i need a glitching filter for my lockscreen
anymore
L111[08:25:45] <vifino> wtf, it is taking
a screenshot of things aren't on the screen anymore
L112[08:25:47] <vifino> uuuuuh
L113[08:26:03] <vifino> THIS IS FINE
L114[08:26:13] <Lizzy> lol
L115[08:27:21] <vifino> i'm sure the gpu
doesn't care running at like 666MHz instead of 500, right?
L116[08:27:48] <vifino> (yep it's
literally 666 MHz now on my hellishly modded thinkpad)
L117[08:31:58] <vifino> well, maybe it is
that.
L118[08:32:28] <vifino> maybe it's the
fact that i run 8gb ram in a laptop with a manufacturer maximum of
4gb.
L119[08:32:35] <vifino> and, well,
overclocked my ram.
L120[08:32:51] <vifino> or the quadcore in
a dualcore laptop. undervolted and overclocked..
L121[08:33:07] <vifino> yeah ok literally
everything about this is sketchy as fuck.
L122[08:33:15] <vifino> who needs
screenshots anyways.
L123[08:36:55] <vifino> oh. huh. man, i
overclocked things by a lot.
L124[08:40:58] <vifino> normal ram speed:
333MHz, mine is ~+107MHz. normal gpu speed: 500/XXX, mine is
+166MHz/+110MHz..
L125[08:41:25] <vifino> i'm surprised it
hasn't lit itself on fire, actually.
L126[08:42:04] <vifino> 35W TDP cpu, plus
13W gpu.. now 45W TDP cpu and i think a little more for the
gpu
L127[08:42:26] <vifino> this is
fine.
L128[08:42:48] <Temia> Overclocked *and*
undervolted? That's crazy
L129[08:42:53] <vifino> yeah.
L130[08:43:10] <vifino> it's a QX9300, the
top of the line core2extreme, too..
L131[08:44:57] <vifino> i never stopped to
think if i should, i just knew i could.
L132[08:45:12] <Lizzy> and there, home
server back in it's place under the stairs and back online. now i
can go and turn off the dhcp on the router
L133[08:45:18] <vifino> it's pretty
fucking awesome though, so i'm glad i went through the insane
sketchiness.
L134[08:50:21] <Lizzy> though speaking of
maintenance on stuff, i need to update my pc (because it's about
224 packages out of date) and also restart it because i've managed
to get wine/proton/steamplay stuck in a weird state where discord
thinks i'm playing "wine-preloader"
L135[08:58:38] <vifino> hmmm, should i get
an led backlight for this thinkpad?
L136[08:58:48] <vifino> the ccfl seems to
be slowly dying..
L137[08:59:06] <Lizzy> why do i have
apache on my pc...
L138[08:59:12] <Lizzy> when did i install
that
L139[08:59:13] <vifino> remooove it
L140[09:02:17] <Lizzy> it is gone!
L141[09:02:30] <vifino> good girl
L142[09:02:32] <Lizzy> along with
mod_dnssd which seemed to just be an apache mod
L143[09:02:33] <Inari> Temia: Thats why
she went to the dcotro
L144[09:03:03] <Lizzy> ahh, i love my
internet, downloading a package at 40M/s
L145[09:03:44] <Lizzy> heh, some are even
faster because my home server has them
L146[09:04:18] <Inari> Always care for
your significant sibling
L147[09:04:19] <Inari> :3
L148[09:04:34] <Temia> Well, also the fact
that it's stuck, I assume
L149[09:04:44] <Temia> Also
L150[09:04:46] *
Temia spraybottles Inari
L151[09:04:48] <Inari> D:
L152[09:04:50] <Inari> Hey!
L153[09:04:53] <Inari> I'm a fox, not a
cat
L154[09:05:00] <Temia> oh, right
L155[09:05:06] *
Temia rolls up a newspaper and swats Inari on the nose
L156[09:05:10] <Inari> D:
L157[09:05:12] <Inari> Mean :p
L158[09:05:16] <Temia> c:
L159[09:05:50] <Temia> Good foxes don't
post horny on main
L160[09:06:05] <Inari>
"main"
L161[09:06:17] <Inari> Also, not horny
:f
L162[09:07:09] <Temia> The new slang
doesn't work well with the old tools, give me a break :T
L163[09:07:26] <Temia> Not my fault
everyone prefers shouting into the void
L164[09:08:55] <Inari> I'm
confuzzled
L165[09:09:05] <Lizzy> dkms why are you
still trying to install the nvidia module into a kernel that i
nolonger have?
L166[09:09:26] <Lizzy> i'm actually
suprised that it didn't error
L167[09:13:40] <Temia> Well, it doesn't
have to patch the kernel, just extract the modules into a directory
o: But that is very silly, yes
L168[09:15:32] <vifino> it does need the
kernel headers
L169[09:15:52] *
Lizzy goes to check if she has the headers still installed or
something
L170[09:16:35] <Lizzy> nope, don't have
any of the ck kernel installed anymore
L171[09:16:43] <vifino> mmm.. i'm really
tempted to spend the 40 bucks on an led backlight mod, it'd tripple
the brightness..
L172[09:20:57] *
Saphire sighs
L173[09:35:44] <Temia> Huh, weird.
L174[09:35:51] *
Temia snuggles a sad dragon
L175[09:36:13] <Temia> Speaking of mods, I
need to stick a resistor in series for my case's power LEDs because
they are so damn bright
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L177[09:38:20] <Lizzy> i just unplugged my
case leds
L178[09:47:19] <Lizzy> \o/ kernel
compiled, now to reboot because stuff that isn't yett loaded wont
work
L179[09:53:29] <Lizzy> hmm, seems i broke
some ipv6 stuff somewhere... will fix later
L180[10:08:41] <vifino> woo, i boosted my
volume on my thinkpad using alsa only
L181[10:08:57] <vifino> softvol
<3
L182[10:09:34] <vifino> (in case someone
is interested, https://puu.sh/BH9sC/31c0244e66.conf
/etc/asound.conf)
L183[10:10:08] <vifino> softvol, dmix and
dsnoop. excellent combo.
L184[10:11:01] <vifino> also, i figured
out that having a drop down terminal/mixer/whatever is really
simple in a tag/group based window manager.
L185[10:11:17] <vifino> i can just toggle
the group on/off to have any window show/hide
L186[10:12:04] <vifino> another cool thing
is that when a window opens, it spawns under my cursor :3
L187[10:12:21] <vifino> centered and
everything.
L188[10:13:39] <Forecaster>
um
<Forecaster>
umL190[10:13:46] <Forecaster>
are those my only options
<Forecaster>
are those my only optionsL191[10:14:01] <Forecaster>
and which is better xD
<Forecaster>
and which is better xDL192[10:40:10]
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L195[11:02:20] <Mettaton_Fab> which program has such
graphics settings
<Mettaton_Fab> which program has such
graphics settingsL196[11:06:42] <Inari> Ah yes, anime.
Where a loli who weighs 40kg eats a 13kg cake
L197[11:14:15] <Forecaster>
@Mettaton_Fab Diaries of a Space Janitor
<Forecaster>
@Mettaton_Fab Diaries of a Space JanitorL198[11:15:16] <Inari> @Forecaster I
wanted to like the game
L199[11:15:25] <Inari> But the HUGE
FLICKERING SCREEENS all over the place made it annoying
L200[11:15:26] <Inari> :P
L201[11:37:31] <vifino> grr, firejail
breaks firefox sound.
L202[11:37:45] <vifino> though it might be
apparmor..
L203[11:38:01] <vifino> actually, no, it's
not. apparmor doesn't complain.
L204[11:38:10] <vifino> it would, it's in
enforce mode.
L205[11:38:17] <vifino> but firejail
doesn't like alsa.
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L207[11:42:57] <Kleadron> i
know how to get inari to stay away from my games now
<Kleadron> i
know how to get inari to stay away from my games nowL208[11:43:08] <Kleadron>
or anything
<Kleadron>
or anythingL209[11:43:14] <Inari> Heh :p
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L211[13:44:54] <Mettaton_Fab> there is this 64x64 pixel
game called meteorite
<Mettaton_Fab> there is this 64x64 pixel
game called meteoriteL212[14:40:24] <CompanionCube> update on
the interpol thing: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-45777681
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L214[15:20:34] <Lizzy> hello and welcom
back to "Will windows on Lizzy's laptop manage to upgrade
itself this time?"
L215[15:20:55] <Izaya> find out next time
*reboots*
L216[15:21:12] <Lizzy> i think this is
attempt #20 of windows wanting to upgrade itself from 1607
L217[15:21:48] <Lizzy> and it's taking
longer to potentially fail this time if it does end up
failing
L218[15:22:25] <Izaya> how convenient
/s
L219[15:22:53] <Lizzy> tbh i only booted
windows on my laptop just to check whether some home ssl certs
would work
L220[15:22:56] <Lizzy> and they did
L221[15:24:49] <Lizzy> tbh i don't
actually care if windows manages to upgrade itself on my laptop or
not
L222[15:25:11] <Lizzy> i don't use it at
all and i am contemplating just getting rid of it
L223[15:28:23] <CompanionCube> Izaya: did
you hear about the apple repair killswitch?
L224[15:29:18] <Izaya> yeah
L225[15:29:37] <Izaya> I mean, not the
details but suffice to say I'm not surprised
L226[15:30:40] <Compu>
suprised they didn't try it sooner
<Compu>
suprised they didn't try it soonerL227[15:31:01] <Compu> but
doesn't it break right to repair laws in some states?
<Compu> but
doesn't it break right to repair laws in some states?L228[15:31:38] <Izaya> I mean,
technically, voiding the warranty with a broken sticker is illegal
so uh
L229[15:32:35] <Compu>
apple might be getting into some legal trouble with this
<Compu>
apple might be getting into some legal trouble with thisL230[15:32:54] <Compu> did
u guys here about the windows 10 update that deleted files?
<Compu> did
u guys here about the windows 10 update that deleted files?L231[15:33:00] <gamax92> vifino: hey
L232[15:33:35] <Izaya> yeah
L233[15:33:54] <Izaya> Windows 10 is
hardly quality but I expected a little more than that
L234[15:34:03] <Compu>
lol
<Compu>
lolL235[15:34:13] <Compu> ye
i'll stick with linux as much as possible
<Compu> ye
i'll stick with linux as much as possibleL236[15:34:46] <Izaya> I only use Windows
at work and it would not be good if stuff got deleted
L237[15:35:34] <Lizzy> it's up to
84%!
L238[15:35:44] <Izaya> [BSOD ensues]
L239[15:35:54] <Lizzy> lol
L240[15:36:00] <Compu> i
only use windows on my laptop for certain windows only games
(mainly star trek online)
<Compu> i
only use windows on my laptop for certain windows only games
(mainly star trek online)L241[15:36:20] <Compu> if
steam's proton thing takes off and does well i'm likely gonna leave
windows behind altogether
<Compu> if
steam's proton thing takes off and does well i'm likely gonna leave
windows behind altogetherL242[15:36:28] <Izaya> moving away from
Windows on my home machines has got me hunting for a better
processor
L243[15:36:42] <Izaya> Everything *runs*
but my i3 is struggling with translating DX11 to Vulkan
L244[15:36:45] <Temia> I might do so as
well, if Proton is usable with non-Steam shortcuts
L245[15:36:47] <Compu> the
amount of idle RAM usage in windows 10 is very annoying because my
laptop only has 6 GB of RAM
<Compu> the
amount of idle RAM usage in windows 10 is very annoying because my
laptop only has 6 GB of RAML246[15:36:53] <Izaya> making GPU-bound
games CPU bound
L247[15:37:04] <CompanionCube> time to go
AMD? :P
L248[15:37:11] <Izaya> I looked at
that
L249[15:37:36] <Compu> like
windows 10 uses over 1 GB of RAM on it's own, that's way too
much
<Compu> like
windows 10 uses over 1 GB of RAM on it's own, that's way too
muchL250[15:37:36] <Izaya> for a 1%
improvement I can get an ATX B350 board, 16GB of DDR4 and an Athlon
200GE
L251[15:38:00] <gamax92> I would be in
Linux atm but a Windows only game I play not only has degraded
performance in DXVK but needs stream output stuff
L252[15:38:03] <Temia> I can manage to get
away with just 8GBs devoted to my Windows VM, but I only ever run
games in it anyway
L253[15:38:06] <Izaya> but for the same
price I can get an Optiplex 9020 with an i7 4770, 16GB of DDR3, a
500GB HDD and a decent motherboard
L254[15:38:21] <Izaya> and they're so
cute
L255[15:38:42] <Izaya> so I'll probably
end up doing that first, then in a couple of years getting whatever
the equivelant of a ryzen 5 is
L256[15:38:45] <Temia> How cute?
L257[15:38:47] <Temia> Show us, show us
c:
L258[15:39:00] <Izaya> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/kp4AAOSwwKNbKdl6/s-l1600.jpg
L259[15:39:11] <Compu> my
desktop is an old custom build i built a few years ago
<Compu> my
desktop is an old custom build i built a few years agoL260[15:39:26] <CompanionCube> so the
0.5TB disk would be for your OS and stuffS?
L261[15:39:26] <Temia> Aw, that's not
bad.
L262[15:39:45] <Izaya> CompanionCube: I'm
gonna rip the processor out and stick it in my current machine to
replace my i3
L263[15:39:49] <Compu> a
core i3 4170, 8 GB of RAM, and a GTX 1050 mini
<Compu> a
core i3 4170, 8 GB of RAM, and a GTX 1050 miniL264[15:40:00] <vifino> gamax92:
hey!
L265[15:40:00] <Izaya> then turn the 9020
into either a LAN party machine or a server
L266[15:40:10] <Izaya> ayyyy
L267[15:40:11] <Temia> And I got a
refurbish of one of my father's old computers as a stipulation for
moving to Guelph, simply because the alternative meant hauling a
steel fulltower across country lines
L268[15:40:13] <Izaya> Compu: got a 4160
here
L269[15:40:22] <gamax92> vifino: you ever
have wifi issues with your thinkpads?
L270[15:40:25] <Izaya> it's killing
me
L271[15:40:30] <Temia> And it probably
would've sunk the wheels of the car.
L272[15:40:35] <Compu> i
used to have a machine i used as a server until it was killed by
the neighbors messing with out breaker box
<Compu> i
used to have a machine i used as a server until it was killed by
the neighbors messing with out breaker boxL273[15:40:39] <Compu> i
used to have a machine i used as a server until it was killed by
the neighbors messing with our breaker box [Edited]
<Compu> i
used to have a machine i used as a server until it was killed by
the neighbors messing with our breaker box [Edited]L274[15:40:51] <Temia> Shit :<
L275[15:41:19] <Compu>
still haven't been able to replace it and it's been nearly a
year
<Compu>
still haven't been able to replace it and it's been nearly a
yearL276[15:41:26] <Compu> just
no money to do it
<Compu> just
no money to do itL277[15:41:43] <CompanionCube>
specs?
L278[15:42:02] <Compu> my
old server was just an old emachines box
<Compu> my
old server was just an old emachines boxL279[15:42:15] <Compu> 4 GB
of RAM, some budget AMD processor, etc
<Compu> 4 GB
of RAM, some budget AMD processor, etcL280[15:42:21] <CompanionCube> ah
L281[15:42:29] <Compu> it
was originally used as a desktop until it's graphics chip
died
<Compu> it
was originally used as a desktop until it's graphics chip
diedL282[15:42:30] <vifino> gamax92: not
really, but that's because i throw all the shitty wifi cards built
into them in a drawer and forget about them.
L283[15:42:40] <Compu> i
had already set up SSH so i just started using it as a server
<Compu> i
had already set up SSH so i just started using it as a serverL284[15:42:45] <CompanionCube> if it was
sufficiently old an rpi3 wouldn't be that much worse save for the
RAM and I/O
L285[15:42:51] <vifino> i only have old
thinkpads though
L286[15:42:56] <Temia> I haven't been able
to gather a good stock of spare hardware since moving so I feel
you, Compu .w.
L287[15:43:01] <vifino> my x230t is the
newest i ever had
L288[15:43:13] <vifino> the oldest being a
t42p
L289[15:43:15] <Compu> my
desktop needs upgrades too
<Compu> my
desktop needs upgrades tooL290[15:43:18] <Temia> (Doesn't help that
I've moved twice more in little more than a year since...)
L291[15:43:25] <Compu> 8 GB
of RAM is getting cramped
<Compu> 8 GB
of RAM is getting crampedL292[15:43:45] <vifino> stop using windows
and you'll find it's plenty.
L293[15:43:50] <Compu> i'm
not
<Compu> i'm
notL294[15:43:56] <CompanionCube> 16G
<3
L295[15:43:59] <Compu> i'm
using ubuntu 14.04 on the desktop
<Compu> i'm
using ubuntu 14.04 on the desktopL296[15:44:06] <gamax92> why so old of
ubuntu
L297[15:44:10] <Temia> Well, for a
Minecraft player, 8GBs really isn't much.
L298[15:44:10] <vifino> start using a
better linux?
L299[15:44:14] <CompanionCube> gamax92:
because LTS?
L300[15:44:15] <Temia> It's a hungry
game.
L301[15:44:20] <Compu>
because the machine is that old
<Compu>
because the machine is that oldL302[15:44:27] <vifino> pfft, games.
L303[15:44:28] <Compu> i
set this all up years ago
<Compu> i
set this all up years agoL304[15:44:30] <gamax92> there have been
newer LTS though
L305[15:44:41] <vifino> nobody needs
games. fun is overrated.
L306[15:44:55] <Compu> yes
but a drive to back everything up to for a reinstall requires
money
<Compu> yes
but a drive to back everything up to for a reinstall requires
moneyL307[15:45:01] *
Temia dangles a cat toy over Vifino
L308[15:45:08] <vifino> .. NOT FAIR.
L309[15:45:12] <Temia> c:
L310[15:45:15] <CompanionCube> do you not
have enough disk for a in-place upgrade?
L311[15:45:21] *
Temia wiggles it. *jingle jingle*
L312[15:45:21] *
vifino grabbyhands
L313[15:45:28] <Temia> Heee <3
L314[15:45:29] <Compu> u
have never tried an in place upgrade, have u
<Compu> u
have never tried an in place upgrade, have uL315[15:45:32] <gamax92> yes
L316[15:45:34] <CompanionCube> yes
L317[15:45:35] <Compu> it's
a bad idea
<Compu> it's
a bad ideaL318[15:45:35] <Temia> Yep.
L319[15:45:36] <gamax92> they usually
work
L320[15:45:37] <CompanionCube> i run
gentoo :p
L321[15:45:37] <Compu> a
really bad idea
<Compu> a
really bad ideaL322[15:45:39] <Temia> I run Arch.
L323[15:45:40] <gamax92> no not
really
L324[15:45:44] <Temia> Life is an in-place
upgrade.
L325[15:45:52] <Compu> in
my experience it breaks things pretty consistently
<Compu> in
my experience it breaks things pretty consistentlyL326[15:46:03] <CompanionCube> (well,
actually bedrock linux mostly made up of gentoo)
L327[15:46:12] <Compu>
besides i want to switch to Kubuntu anyways
<Compu>
besides i want to switch to Kubuntu anywaysL328[15:46:26] <Temia> Install Arch
:V
L329[15:46:31] <gamax92> good thing that's
just a package you can install
L330[15:46:33] <Compu> i
don't like gnome, it's idle RAM usage is comparable to windows
10
<Compu> i
don't like gnome, it's idle RAM usage is comparable to windows
10L331[15:46:33] <vifino> CompanionCube:
glad to know you still do. have you had trouble with the profile
upgrade?
L332[15:46:43] <Temia> Learn to stop
worrying and love the rolling release
L333[15:46:47] <vifino> ^
L334[15:46:51] <Compu>
nu
<Compu>
nuL335[15:46:54] <CompanionCube> vifino:
which profile upgrade?
L336[15:46:54] <Temia> yas
L337[15:46:58] <Temia> :>
L338[15:47:05] <gamax92> I really do like
rolling release though, it's been a lot less hassle than bi-annual
updating
L339[15:47:06] <Compu> i
don't wanna deal with a broken system every once in a while
<Compu> i
don't wanna deal with a broken system every once in a whileL340[15:47:11] <Lizzy> there's nothing
more fun than trying to work out what's broke when you blindly
upgrade all at once
L341[15:47:17] <vifino> CompanionCube: the
one in 2018? the first one in years iirc?
L342[15:47:28] <Compu> it
would be way too much stress for me
<Compu> it
would be way too much stress for meL343[15:47:31] <CompanionCube> vifino:
17.0?
L344[15:47:33] <vifino> do you not
`eselect news read`
L345[15:47:36] <Compu> i
already have panic attacks as is
<Compu> i
already have panic attacks as isL346[15:47:36] <CompanionCube> nothing
difficult about that :p
L347[15:47:42] <gamax92> You are creating
your own stress off of things that don't really exist
L348[15:47:43] *
Lizzy might not upgrade in the "proper" way and just does
`pacaur -Syu`
L349[15:47:52] <vifino> it's the arch way,
Lizzy.
L350[15:48:13] <Compu> i'm
pretty sure my computer does really exist
<Compu> i'm
pretty sure my computer does really existL351[15:48:23] <vifino> on my frankenpad,
i am running the musl variant of void linux.
L352[15:48:25] <Lizzy> just doing pacaur
-Syu or doing that eselect command?
L353[15:48:28] <vifino> it's pretty neat
so far.
L354[15:48:29] <gamax92> the thing that I
was referring to was issues on upgrading a rolling release
distro
L355[15:48:48] <Compu>
those tend to break every once in a while
<Compu>
those tend to break every once in a whileL356[15:48:57] <gamax92> experience says
otherwise
L357[15:49:02] <vifino> yep
L358[15:49:05] <vifino> same here.
L359[15:49:12] <Compu> i'll
stick with ubuntu based distros
<Compu> i'll
stick with ubuntu based distrosL360[15:49:21] <CompanionCube> Lizzy:
eselect doesn't do upgrades
L361[15:49:35] <CompanionCube> you mean
emerge --update --deep --changed-use (optional --with-bdeps=y)
@world
L362[15:49:42] <CompanionCube> oh, forgot
--ask
L363[15:49:45] <vifino> pls
L364[15:50:09] <vifino> Lizzy: i meant
pac{man,aur} -Syu, it's the arch way.
L365[15:50:18] <Lizzy> ah
L366[15:50:22] <vifino> emerge -auvDN
@world works for gentoo
L367[15:50:23] <Compu>
anyways anyone have any spare DDR3 RAM sticks?
<Compu>
anyways anyone have any spare DDR3 RAM sticks?L368[15:50:30] <Lizzy> but yeah, that's
basically what i do to upgrade
L369[15:50:51] <vifino> nothing more
should be required, really.
L370[15:51:12] <CompanionCube> vifino:
what was more ~fun~ was setting up a hardened gentoo musl
stratum
L371[15:51:15] <vifino> unless you tweaked
configs and they can't be merged, in which case you might have to
update them.
L372[15:51:22] <Lizzy> (though i generally
upgrade the keyring package first if it's there, just because i had
some weird stuff in the past)
L373[15:51:25] <CompanionCube> which i
still have a blogpost to write for
L374[15:51:49] <Compu> 2
more 4 GB DDR3 sticks would bring my desktop to 16 GB
<Compu> 2
more 4 GB DDR3 sticks would bring my desktop to 16 GBL375[15:51:56] <Lizzy> most of the config
changes i make are in the *.d folders so they're not too much of an
issue
L376[15:52:19] <CompanionCube> vifino:
when i do etc-update i nearly always end up discarding the new
config :p
L377[15:52:52] <Lizzy> in other news,
laptop is at 88% and also running low on batttery
L378[15:53:01] <CompanionCube> f
L379[15:53:56] <Lizzy> and it failed
L380[15:54:29] <Compu> 88%
of what?
<Compu> 88%
of what?L381[15:54:44] <gamax92> windows
update
L382[15:54:47] <Lizzy> ^
L383[15:54:57] <Compu>
pff
<Compu>
pffL384[15:55:03] <Lizzy> from 1607 to
whatever version
L385[15:56:57] <Lizzy> failed with a
0x8007001f error code which after a very quick google search
suggests that some system files may be corrupted
L386[15:57:12] <Compu>
anyways my plan for the move to Kubuntu 18.04 is likely to backup
my steam library to a portable hard drive, then copy my home folder
to that drive too, then install Kubuntu on the new drive and
install the things i need, copying whatever i need from the
portable hard drive
<Compu>
anyways my plan for the move to Kubuntu 18.04 is likely to backup
my steam library to a portable hard drive, then copy my home folder
to that drive too, then install Kubuntu on the new drive and
install the things i need, copying whatever i need from the
portable hard driveL387[15:57:33] <Compu> and
then the portable hard drive doubles as a backup of my stuff
<Compu> and
then the portable hard drive doubles as a backup of my stuffL388[15:58:02] <CompanionCube> why backup
your steam library first
L389[15:58:10] <CompanionCube> do the home
folder first :p
L390[15:58:30] <Lizzy> which is not
suprising since the windows install on the laptop went from 8.1 to
10, back to 8.1 then back to windows 10 again. I think it did
manage to do at least 1 update to the 1607 version but after that
i've managed to cause enough damage to the windows system files to
make it so that it can't upgrade
L391[15:58:31] <Compu>
because u can't just copy ur steam library because of the way steam
does all it's linked folders and such
<Compu>
because u can't just copy ur steam library because of the way steam
does all it's linked folders and suchL392[15:58:51] <CompanionCube> 'course you
can
L393[15:58:57] <Compu> well
u can copy ti
<Compu> well
u can copy tiL394[15:58:58] <Compu> well
u can copy it [Edited]
<Compu> well
u can copy it [Edited]L395[15:59:06] <Compu> but
it won't be useable without a lot of work
<Compu> but
it won't be useable without a lot of workL396[15:59:20] <Compu> so
it'd be better to use steam's built in library backup tool
<Compu> so
it'd be better to use steam's built in library backup toolL397[15:59:21] <Izaya> Copy the dir
L398[15:59:24] <CompanionCube> cp -r
~/.local/share/steam to another disk
L399[15:59:26] <CompanionCube> copy it
back
L400[15:59:27] <CompanionCube> done
L401[15:59:28] <Izaya> Then install
it
L402[15:59:34] <Izaya> And it'll see the
files
L403[15:59:45] <Compu>
eh
<Compu>
ehL404[16:00:09] <Lizzy> that process works
on windows
L405[16:00:17] <Lizzy> so no reason it
shouldn't on linux
L406[16:00:22] <Compu> what
about the game stuff in ~/.local/American Truck Simulator/ and
such
<Compu> what
about the game stuff in ~/.local/American Truck Simulator/ and
suchL407[16:00:28] <Compu>
gotta get all that too
<Compu>
gotta get all that tooL408[16:00:30] <Lizzy> just copy that over
too
L409[16:00:38] <Izaya> Also
L410[16:00:42] <Izaya> mksquashfs
L411[16:00:50] <Compu> on
windows steam installs games to the program files folder
<Compu> on
windows steam installs games to the program files folderL412[16:00:53] <Izaya> Compressed archive
you can mount to the filesystem
L413[16:00:58] <CompanionCube> won't the
other stuff be copied with your ~
L414[16:01:00] <Izaya> v useful for
backups
L415[16:01:07] <CompanionCube> in fact why
do you need to copy the thing seperately at all
L416[16:01:10] <CompanionCube> just copy
all of ~
L417[16:01:10] <Lizzy> but if you're
backing up your entire home dir, it'll get your steam library, save
files and anything else in ~
L418[16:01:18] <Compu> i
know
<Compu> i
knowL419[16:01:27] <Compu> i
still wanna use the library backup tool anyways
<Compu> i
still wanna use the library backup tool anywaysL420[16:01:45] <Compu>
rather be overly cautious
<Compu>
rather be overly cautiousL421[16:02:14] <Lizzy> right, what the
fuck have i done to my pc... libvirt crashed and now thunderbird
wont load up...
L422[16:02:22] *
Lizzy sighs
L423[16:02:26] <Lizzy> i'll deal with it
later
L424[16:02:51] <Compu>
ded
<Compu>
dedL425[16:03:20] <Compu> why
do windows updates take so long anyways?
<Compu> why
do windows updates take so long anyways?L426[16:03:26] <Compu> is
there any real reason?
<Compu> is
there any real reason?L427[16:03:44] <Compu> no
other OS takes as long as windows does
<Compu> no
other OS takes as long as windows doesL428[16:03:51] <Lizzy> probably scanning
your files and then deciding what ones it wants to fuck up
L429[16:03:54] <Izaya> Technical
debt
L430[16:04:34] <Compu>
lol
<Compu>
lolL431[16:04:44] <Compu> but
even on OSes like windows 7
<Compu> but
even on OSes like windows 7L432[16:04:47] <Compu> it
took so long
<Compu> it
took so longL433[16:05:41] <Izaya> Yup.
L434[16:05:48] <Izaya> Technical
debt.
L435[16:05:58] <Izaya> There was less of
it back then.
L436[16:07:46] <Izaya> >includes
support for 800 different versions of stuff, in full, because
Windows never solved DLL hell
L437[16:08:08] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlV7-gQbRVU
L438[16:08:08] <MichiBot> So I
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L439[16:08:16] <Izaya> >includes
support files for remaining compatible with different versions of
Windows
L440[16:08:52] <Izaya> >includes a
bunch of random BS features that were added once because it seemed
cool and 15 years later they have to keep them because *someone*
still uses it
L441[16:09:55] <Izaya> Around Windows XP
they changed install method from copying files to extracting from a
disk image because copying files was slower due to the million
small files
L442[16:10:27] <Compu>
linux installs take under 10 minutes on average
<Compu>
linux installs take under 10 minutes on averageL443[16:10:37] <Compu> and
kernel updates don't make u wait forever
<Compu> and
kernel updates don't make u wait foreverL444[16:11:17] <Izaya> ascendance: haiku
installs in under 2 minutes on a spinning disk
L445[16:21:07] <Izaya> Temia: I'll update
you on my cute 9020 when I get it
L446[16:30:30] <vifino> i think every day
i loose my sanity a bit more.
L447[16:30:42] <vifino> i'm now writing a
very fast emoji utility.
L448[16:31:01] <vifino> why? because
emojify is written in shell and the data is part of the source and
it's probably slow.
L449[16:31:36] <vifino> so i'm utilizing
json files, jq and awk to generate a gperf table and have a fast
hash lookup in C.
L450[16:33:32] <Izaya> >emoji
L451[16:33:48] *
Izaya grumbles about pictures in text encoding
L452[16:34:29] <vifino> yep.
L453[16:34:52] <vifino> but i need to post
some :fire: emojis for comedic value.
L454[16:48:14] *
Temia patpats Izaya
L455[16:48:34] <Temia> I too griped but
they placated me with a fairy emoji
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L457[16:55:16] <Bafton> Hey guys!
L458[16:56:25] <Bafton> Testing
L459[16:56:34] <Temia> Moo
L460[16:56:37] <Lizzy> your testing seems
successful
L461[16:56:39] <Bafton> IT WORKS!
L462[16:56:45] <Bafton> This is S3
L463[16:56:56] <Bafton> I am connected via
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L464[16:57:07] <Lizzy> lol
L465[16:57:20] <Bafton> Okay I don't want
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L467[16:59:36] <S3> Ok
L468[16:59:41] <S3> so that works
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L473[17:19:16] <Vexatos>
hello from Norway, by the way
<Vexatos>
hello from Norway, by the wayL474[17:19:24] <Vexatos>
How many explosions have I missed
<Vexatos>
How many explosions have I missedL475[17:21:10] <Izaya> S3: neat
L476[17:24:01] <Vexatos>
??
<Vexatos>
??L477[17:24:03] <Vexatos>
hah
<Vexatos>
hahL478[17:24:23] <Vexatos>
unicode on mobile keyboard is weird
<Vexatos>
unicode on mobile keyboard is weirdL479[17:25:35] <Forecaster>
Don't they have explosions in Norway?
<Forecaster>
Don't they have explosions in Norway?L480[17:26:10] <Vexatos>
They certainly have surprisingly little rain
<Vexatos>
They certainly have surprisingly little rainL481[17:26:21] <Vexatos> It
only rained less than half the time I spent in Bergen so far
<Vexatos> It
only rained less than half the time I spent in Bergen so farL482[17:26:30] <Vexatos>
That's not what I expected
<Vexatos>
That's not what I expectedL483[17:26:51] <Forecaster>
It's about the same as here I imagine
<Forecaster>
It's about the same as here I imagineL484[17:27:11] <Vexatos>
Well supposedly it should rain about 280 days a year
<Vexatos>
Well supposedly it should rain about 280 days a yearL485[17:27:28] <Vexatos> so
basically all autumn and winter, plus extra
<Vexatos> so
basically all autumn and winter, plus extraL486[17:27:57]
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L488[17:28:47] <Vexatos> I
also learnt that a person who hasn't had any real physical activity
to keep. themselves fit with for over 7 years is still capable of
15km hikes across mountains
<Vexatos> I
also learnt that a person who hasn't had any real physical activity
to keep. themselves fit with for over 7 years is still capable of
15km hikes across mountainsL489[17:28:56] <Vexatos> I
also learnt that a person who hasn't had any real physical activity
to keep themselves fit with for over 7 years is still capable of
15km hikes across mountains [Edited]
<Vexatos> I
also learnt that a person who hasn't had any real physical activity
to keep themselves fit with for over 7 years is still capable of
15km hikes across mountains [Edited]L490[17:29:21]
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L493[17:34:26] <Lizzian>
oh, that's nice
<Lizzian>
oh, that's niceL494[17:34:54] <Lizzian>
one of the child libvirtd processes became detached, is eating up
cpu cycles and i can't kill it
<Lizzian>
one of the child libvirtd processes became detached, is eating up
cpu cycles and i can't kill itL495[17:34:58] <Corded> * <Lizzian>
sighs
L496[17:35:04] <Lizzian>
looks like i'ma have to reoobt
<Lizzian>
looks like i'ma have to reoobtL497[17:38:06] <S3> reoobt!
L498[17:43:52] <S3> oh wth
L499[17:43:59] <S3> trying to download a
file from a BBS
L500[17:44:11] <S3> and all is well all of
a sudden ABORT ABORT ABORT FILE
L501[17:44:19] <S3> then the bbs hung up
on me
L502[17:46:47] <S3> calling back
L503[17:50:02] <S3> kermit eems to be
working
L504[17:50:15] <S3> 1oK
L505[17:50:24] <S3> 20K
L506[17:50:27] <S3> bklazing speed
L507[17:50:54] <Wuerfel_21>
`ABORT ABORT ABORT FILE` maybe the operator noticed you downloding
their DIY hardcöre pr0n collection that they accidentially chmod
744'd
<Wuerfel_21>
`ABORT ABORT ABORT FILE` maybe the operator noticed you downloding
their DIY hardcöre pr0n collection that they accidentially chmod
744'dL508[17:51:29] <S3> 60K
L509[17:51:36] <S3> im downloading a
file
L510[17:51:48] <S3> that is not porn
L511[17:51:53] <S3> I hope
L512[17:53:13] <S3> I can
L513[17:53:21] <S3> can't remember if
kermit verifies integrity
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kermit
<Kleadron>
kermitL516[18:03:11] <S3> You don't remember
Kermit?
L517[19:11:08] <vifino> wowza.
L518[19:11:13] <vifino> i wrote my emoji
thing.
L519[19:11:42] <vifino> gperf for looking
up the names and getting a reference number, because it doesn't
handle strings
L520[19:12:08] <vifino> and then an array
of string pointers for the actual emojis
L521[19:12:20] <vifino> god i hate every
bit of this.
L522[19:12:29] <vifino> but it's gonna get
some hipster attraction.
L523[19:21:19] <S3> you know what a great
game is
L524[19:21:39] <S3> but I dont think this
system would support it with its current specs
L525[19:23:46] <S3> wait maybe I can
L526[19:25:10] <S3> no
L527[19:25:18] <S3> I would have to get
win 3.1 working in freedos
L528[19:37:19] <Izaya> Hahahahahahaha
gl
L529[20:03:44] <vifino> so, my stupid
emoji utility got a sales pitch now.
L530[20:03:48] <vifino> it's called
moj.
L531[20:04:00] <vifino> only 3 letters(!),
huge reduction compared to 7 of emojify.
L532[20:05:17] <vifino> well, at least i
know what gperf does now.
L533[20:05:20] <vifino> and how badly it
sucks.
L534[20:14:37] <vifino> well, at least it
performs much better than emojify.
L535[20:15:34] <vifino> considering it
takes 0.002 seconds to look up a single emoji and it takes longer
to run bash -c "echo hi"..
L536[20:16:34] <vifino> guess using gperf
has it's benefits. it's fast.
L537[20:17:57] <vifino> well, everything's
marked constant, there is one or two little overheads involved, but
other than that, it's pretty fast..
L538[20:18:08] <vifino> er,
efficient*
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L546[23:45:08] <S3> vifino: Why wouldn't
it take longer
L547[23:46:27] <S3> as in, why wouldn't
bash -c
L548[23:46:34] <S3> "echo hi"
take longer, there's a lot more shit to do