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L4[00:18:49] <Forecaster> oooh rimworld update
L5[00:22:43] <Forecaster> %loot
L6[00:22:43] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a paperclip, big one.
L7[00:38:08] <Dudblockman> Hmm. I started thinking about implementing my own GPS-y trilateration system for drones.
L8[00:39:06] <Dudblockman> Ideally I want to get away with using a basic wireless card for the sake of more room for upgrades
L9[00:40:45] <Dudblockman> Since there is some randomness to the distances returned by wireless packets...
L10[00:41:44] <Dudblockman> I am getting a feeling I'm gonna be cracking my ODEs & Linear Algebra textbook open again.
L11[00:42:18] <Kodos> Anything cool in that update
L12[00:46:03] <Dudblockman> *Hopefully I won't be coding a RK4 solver into a drone*
L13[00:48:12] <Izaya> %ping
L14[00:48:13] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Izaya 0.54s
L15[01:17:44] <Forecaster> there's a lot of stuff
L16[01:18:20] <Forecaster> obviously the best most important change is that hunters no longer try to shoot downed animals, instead they execute them with a knife (unless they'd explode)
L17[01:18:31] <Forecaster> it's a huge update though
L18[01:42:13] * Izaya shoots Forecaster
L19[02:05:45] <Kleadron> ?
L20[02:07:11] <Kodos> Does the developer still refuse to put the game on sale
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L22[02:21:58] <Forecaster> dunno
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L24[02:33:47] <ba7888b72413a16b> the matter of whether or not spore is evolutionist or creationist propaganda is highly controversial
L25[02:49:08] <Forecaster> Spore is a game
L26[02:49:14] <Forecaster> :D
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L29[03:41:24] <ba7888b72413a16b> to me, spore is clearly creationist propaganda, while something like conway's game of life is evolution propaganda
L30[03:41:35] <ba7888b72413a16b> or at least, conway's game of life is abiogenesis propaganda :P
L31[03:42:28] <Kleadron> are you ok
L32[03:42:47] <ba7888b72413a16b> no
L33[03:42:50] <Forecaster> I have no idea what you mean by "spore"
L34[03:42:57] <ba7888b72413a16b> the game
L35[03:43:04] <ba7888b72413a16b> I'm mostly joking
L36[03:43:23] <ba7888b72413a16b> but apparantly when spore was released, this was a real concern
L37[03:43:25] <ba7888b72413a16b> https://web.archive.org/web/20080911063425/http://antispore.com/
L38[03:43:46] <ba7888b72413a16b> "Yesterday I found out about a new game called Spore when my son asked me to buy it for him. It looked innocent enough at first and has “E for Everyone” ESRB rating. But don’t be mislead, apparently “everyone” means everyone they want to teach evolution to."
L39[03:44:24] <ba7888b72413a16b> yet... the game has intelligent design
L40[03:45:35] <ba7888b72413a16b> maybe creationists think evolution is where you can just touch a glowing pile of bones, and then have babies with a completely different mouth and body shape?
L41[03:48:13] <Izaya> what's wrong with learning about different things
L42[03:49:03] <ba7888b72413a16b> Izaya: idk ask the people who let their kids spend their money on a game, and then take it away from them after thinking it's demonic
L43[03:49:33] <ba7888b72413a16b> "just a game" is too much for some people I guess
L44[03:49:36] <ba7888b72413a16b> no no, we gotta ban it
L45[03:50:46] <Izaya> Let's ban the bible because I don't want my hypothetical children learning about creationism
L46[03:52:44] <ba7888b72413a16b> ban minecraft it's not vegan
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L53[06:34:32] * AmandaC declares Inari's lap her own land, cuddles up in it
L54[06:35:15] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L55[06:35:15] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with Bruttosozialprodukt. 7 health gained!
L56[06:35:15] <Inari> lewd
L57[06:36:00] <Forecaster> %loot
L58[06:36:00] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a paperclip, big one.
L59[06:36:15] <AmandaC> Meowning, Inari. :3 Did you bring The Package™ I asked you to bring?
L60[06:42:52] <Forecaster> sigh
L61[06:42:58] <Corded> * <Forecaster> wants to get home to play rimworld
L62[06:44:29] <AmandaC> %choose play or read
L63[06:44:29] <MichiBot> AmandaC: You'll want to go with play.
L64[06:49:22] *** Guest37951 is now known as Thog
L65[06:56:59] <Inari> AmandaC: Of course
L66[06:57:40] * AmandaC bats happily at the yarn ball she asked Inari to bring
L67[07:01:53] <Lizzian> @Forecaster i've been meaning to play rimworld again, but time has been taken up by other stuff :/
L68[07:02:27] <Forecaster> this update has a lot of neat stuff
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L75[09:08:52] <Inari> Those Hanesaki faces though
L76[09:56:27] * Inari tries to inject EXAs into AmandaC's whiskers
L77[10:05:03] <AmandaC> D:
L78[10:05:05] <AmandaC> Rude!
L79[10:05:14] <AmandaC> You already have root access, why do you need to hack!?
L80[10:05:26] <Inari> I do?
L81[10:05:30] <Corded> * <Lizzian> giggles
L82[10:05:35] <AmandaC> I just locked off my visual matrix, to stop you from turning me into foxes over and over!
L83[10:05:42] <Inari> Psh
L84[10:05:44] <Inari> But foxes are cuter
L85[10:36:53] <Michiyo> %loot
L86[10:36:53] <MichiBot> Michiyo: You get a loot box! It contains eye of newt.
L87[10:37:12] <Michiyo> awesome, almost everything I need for this potion.
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L90[10:59:36] <Lizzian> %loot
L91[10:59:36] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You get a loot box! It contains a Magic reason to be happy! (25%)
L92[10:59:53] <Corded> * <Lizzian> could do with one of thiose about now
L93[11:03:15] <Forecaster> %loot
L94[11:03:15] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a Shiny Joco223's shades! (10%)
L95[11:03:40] <Forecaster> That seems like a bit of a contradiction
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L100[11:32:44] <payonel> ide's do more than debugging (Even for lua) syntax errors, static analysis (such as use of uninitialized variables, writing to globals, variable hiding), tab completion, symbol lookup, file management (quick open of relevant files) [not intending to make a comprehensive list]
L101[11:33:13] <Forecaster> clean your house
L102[11:33:30] <Forecaster> if your IDE doesn't do that it's not worth anything!
L103[11:33:45] <payonel> i dont even have a house, i live in my ide
L104[11:38:36] <Vexatos> Integrated Domestic Environment
L105[11:38:44] <payonel> hey vex
L106[11:38:55] <payonel> do you build+run oc for 1.12 with idea?
L107[11:39:01] <Vexatos> yes .-.
L108[11:39:33] <payonel> i've been setting up my new laptop (still) getting some oc workflows working again
L109[11:39:39] <payonel> anyways, ran into a weird issue with 1.12
L110[11:39:46] <payonel> Error:scalac: 'jvm-1.8' is not a valid choice for '-target'
L111[11:39:47] <payonel> Error:scalac: bad option: '-target:jvm-1.8'
L112[11:40:25] <payonel> i might have broken it myself somehow. i can toss it and try again
L113[11:40:30] <payonel> but i was curious if you've seen that before
L114[11:40:44] <payonel> found this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29041527/jvm-1-8-is-not-a-valid-choice-for-target
L115[11:40:57] <payonel> but the other branches built fine for me
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L117[11:54:48] <Ristellise> http://tinyurl.com/yba7r6xe
L118[11:56:16] <payonel> @ristellise :) ha
L119[12:03:08] <Kleadron> it makes me upset
L120[12:15:43] <payonel> it bothers me too :) but mostly it just causes me to shake my head, not get upset
L121[12:17:18] <Izaya> tfw got the most dodgy VR setup in history
L122[12:18:20] <Lizzian> is it held together mostly by ducttape?
L123[12:18:25] <Lizzian> and/or hot glue
L124[12:18:29] <Izaya> I have Moonlight to stream Elite: Dangerous to my phone which is sitting in a broken (or inactive) GearVR headset; Elite: Dangerous itself is ever so slightly modified with ReShade and SweetFX so it's got the pincushion warping effect to make the image stretch correctly for the lenses...
L125[12:19:14] <Izaya> it's honestly pretty comfy at this point
L126[12:19:18] <Izaya> I could play E:D like this
L127[12:19:24] <Lizzian> lol
L128[12:19:35] <Izaya> oh also head tracking by relaying the phone's sensors to the computer with opentrack
L129[12:19:55] <Izaya> now I just need a proper HOTAS rather than this two-axis flight stick
L130[12:21:55] <Izaya> now I just need to wait 1 day 13 hours until the Gnosis jumps and I can do a bit of flying around
L131[12:23:19] <Kleadron> does notch approve of the notch
L132[12:23:36] <Izaya> >having a notch
L133[12:26:06] <Corded> * <Lizzian> is wondering how easilly she'd be able to pass through the vive USB devices through to her Windows VM or if she'll be able to get openVR stuff set up
L134[12:26:38] <Izaya> I'm inclined to think the easiest method would be to find a $5 USB PCI card
L135[12:26:51] <Izaya> then you just have those ports that are for USB for the VM
L136[12:27:00] <Kleadron> when you "think outloud" with cool *formatted* text just to basicly ask for help ? :GWcorbinHolyFuck:
L137[12:27:18] <Lizzian> it's just the `/me` command
L138[12:27:25] <Izaya> sometimes I'm happy none of those render to images, I don't even want to know
L139[12:27:41] <Lizzian> also i have a PCI card, but it had some weird issues when i last tried using it
L140[12:27:54] <Lizzian> the 2nd one looks like a shittier version of the happy crying face
L141[12:27:54] <Izaya> (the issue with USB PCI cards is that the ones I've tried often fuck with interrupts which means everything goes screwy)
L142[12:28:15] <Izaya> (or, even more fun, causes either high CPU usage or the kernel to just not start)
L143[12:28:53] <Lizzian> can't remember what the exact issues with mine were, but i think it was that it wasn't getting caught by the PCI stub driver properly
L144[12:29:30] <Lizzian> also to add it, i'd need to power my system off and i cba to do that
L145[12:29:52] <payonel> @kleadron :/
L146[12:30:45] <Izaya> ah yes, the ever present menace of a reboot
L147[12:30:48] <Izaya> so inconvenient x_x
L148[12:32:13] <Lizzian> tbh, linux starts up pretty quickly but i have to re-open stuff when i reboot whereas i can normally just suspend my computer
L149[12:32:23] <Izaya> yeah
L150[12:32:34] <Lizzian> though i do have to make sure my bluetooth headset is disconnected and the windows vm is off before i go into suspend
L151[12:32:36] <Izaya> like it's one thing to boot to the desktop, it's another to open all your ssh sessions and programs
L152[12:32:40] <Lizzian> cause it does fuck shit up sometimes
L153[12:33:17] <Lizzian> i somehow managed to fuck up my Xorg install about 4 days ago because i had to force my pc off due to bluetooth being weird
L154[12:33:34] <Izaya> oof
L155[12:33:48] <Lizzian> had to tell pacman to re-install the xorg stuff and ignore/overwrite existing files
L156[12:34:57] <Izaya> man I wish amdgpu-compatible cards weren't so expensive
L157[12:35:10] <Lizzian> amdgpu-compatible?
L158[12:35:20] <Izaya> yeah only the last 3 gens or so are compatible
L159[12:35:36] <Izaya> I was reading a review on the 8800GTX and they were like "eye-watering $175 price tag"
L160[12:35:44] <Izaya> now a top of the line card is like $800
L161[12:35:58] <Lizzian> yeah, they're expensive
L162[12:36:46] <Izaya> I want an AMD card for Linux and then to pass through my current GTX 980 to a Windows 8 VM but I don't really see it happening any time soon
L163[12:37:02] <Izaya> I have some OEM Radeon 8350s but they're kinda shit
L164[12:37:06] <Izaya> also no amdgpu
L165[12:37:59] <Lizzian> i think the next 'powerful' card after the 970&980 in my system currently is a GT520 that's somewhere in my room
L166[12:38:17] <Lizzian> actually, the intel gpu in my cpu might be on par with the 520
L167[12:38:21] <Lizzian> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L168[12:38:24] <Izaya> aw man a 520, so powerful!
L169[12:38:35] <Lizzian> i also have an 8400GS
L170[12:38:47] <Izaya> I have a box with a single-slot 8800GTX here
L171[12:38:53] <Izaya> that card has no business looking as good as it does
L172[12:38:54] <Lizzian> or, i did at some point, not sure where it is now
L173[12:40:53] <Izaya> https://www.ixbt.com/video3/images/g92/gf8800gt-front.jpg
L174[12:43:25] <Lizzian> wow, a card that has an svideo port
L175[12:44:17] <Izaya> I've seen S-Video ports on both displays and devices, but I've never seen a cable for it.
L176[12:44:24] <Skye> I have
L177[12:44:46] <Izaya> Europe is a bizarre place.
L178[12:45:49] <Skye> it's actually a US standard
L179[12:45:51] <Skye> it's bad
L180[12:46:01] * Izaya squints
L181[12:46:06] <Izaya> US Standard... Used for TV...
L182[12:46:12] <Skye> Europe has SCART which has full RGB support
L183[12:46:14] <Izaya> Is it also incapable of colour reproduction?
L184[12:46:39] <Skye> svideo is high quality compared to composite but low quality compared to RGB
L185[13:18:32] <Z0idburg> Izaya, I used to use s-video for a lot of things, especially my N64
L186[13:18:41] <Z0idburg> it made the picture just a hair crispier
L187[13:18:57] <Izaya> gotta love some crispy pictures
L188[13:19:15] <Z0idburg> yeah well you can't really tell from across the room
L189[13:56:53] <Kodos> %loot
L190[13:56:53] <MichiBot> Kodos: You get a loot box! It contains an empty bottle.
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L192[14:44:29] <Inari> Okay, thats cute https://twitter.com/swarmingrats/status/1033019404278292480
L193[14:44:30] <MichiBot> Fri Aug 24 10:53:13 CDT 2018 @swarmingrats: owouwurowoboworowos <https://t.co/UPOQFd2jb0&gt;
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L195[15:01:35] <Inari> https://twitter.com/archillect/status/1034531081444151297
L196[15:01:36] <MichiBot> Tue Aug 28 15:00:05 CDT 2018 @archillect: <https://t.co/73Qr3ZQost&gt;
L197[15:08:06] <Forecaster> %loot
L198[15:08:06] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a Shiny lewd skin-adherent magical rope! (10%)
L199[15:09:02] <Forecaster> I see...
L200[15:15:37] *** Tahgtahv is now known as Tahg
L201[15:18:15] <Forecaster> %restart
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L205[15:25:02] <Inari> Whats new?
L206[15:25:17] <Inari> %loot @Forecaster 's drawer
L207[15:25:17] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a loot box! It contains a doorknob.
L208[15:27:49] <Forecaster> Just added a few junk items
L209[15:28:30] <Forecaster> And added command commands in a proper structure in addition to the old command commands
L210[15:30:19] <Forecaster> like
L211[15:30:24] <Forecaster> %command print hello
L212[15:30:43] <Forecaster> or not I suppose, that works too
L213[15:31:06] <Forecaster> that worked when I tested it :|
L214[15:33:13] <Skye> %loot
L215[15:33:14] <MichiBot> Skye: You get a loot box! It contains a miraculous miracle man (mmm) #1 comic.
L216[15:33:18] <MichiBot> Skye: You get a loot box! It contains an eraser.
L217[15:33:18] <Skye> %loot
L218[15:33:20] <Skye> %loot
L219[15:33:20] <MichiBot> Skye: You get a loot box! It contains an eraser.
L220[15:33:22] <Skye> ...
L221[15:33:28] <Skye> Forecaster, how much junk did you use
L222[15:33:32] <Skye> %loot safe
L223[15:33:33] <MichiBot> Skye: You get a loot box! It contains a 20ft pole.
L224[15:33:37] <Forecaster> I'd hav eliked to see the console so I could see what went wrong
L225[15:33:38] <Skye> ...
L226[15:33:49] <Forecaster> Skye: copious amounts
L227[15:33:53] <Forecaster> recycling you know
L228[15:33:57] <Forecaster> %loot
L229[15:33:57] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a twig.
L230[15:34:04] <Forecaster> %inv count
L231[15:34:05] <MichiBot> The inventory contains 151 items.
L232[15:34:23] <Forecaster> I also added another potion slot
L233[15:34:32] <Forecaster> which means potions are *twice* as likely now! :D
L234[15:34:36] <Skye> %give MichiBot a kitten
L235[15:34:36] * MichiBot accepts the kitten and adds it to her inventory
L236[15:39:40] <Michiyo> %command print hello
L237[15:40:14] <Michiyo> http://paste.pc-logix.com/haramexila.bash @Forecaster
L238[15:40:36] <Forecaster> :|
L239[15:40:40] <Forecaster> weh
L240[15:42:53] <AmandaC> %give AmandaC a kitten
L241[15:42:53] * MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't find anything..."
L242[15:42:58] <AmandaC> D:
L243[15:43:15] <AmandaC> But I need to carry it back to it's mama!
L244[15:43:29] <Forecaster> MichiBot is it's mama now!
L245[15:43:54] <AmandaC> Inside michibot is nice to dangerous, she might decide to launch her in a shell!
L246[15:44:05] <AmandaC> S/nice/much/
L247[15:50:43] <Inari> https://twitter.com/catgirls_bot/status/1034516859213832192 hmm somthing about this feels odd, but in the same vein I find it quite cute/pretty
L248[15:50:44] <MichiBot> Tue Aug 28 14:03:34 CDT 2018 @catgirls_bot: <https://t.co/BTeGvhqjL4&gt; <https://t.co/2k96yRTJ8V&gt;
L249[15:51:36] <Forecaster> why does she have green pupils...
L250[15:53:25] <Inari> To see the world that much more positively
L251[16:09:21] <Forecaster> or jealously...
L252[16:09:22] <Forecaster> :P
L253[16:10:23] <Toothless the Dragon> is there a way to split cables? I am guessing not
L254[16:10:53] <Forecaster> what do you mean "split"?
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L256[16:11:17] <Toothless the Dragon> Split as in make them not connect to one another, but i read the wiki
L257[16:11:20] <Toothless the Dragon> you can dye cables
L258[16:11:26] <Forecaster> yes
L259[16:11:38] <Toothless the Dragon> did not know that ?
L260[16:11:44] <Toothless the Dragon> i can make more compact datacenters now lol
L261[16:11:53] <Forecaster> pre 1.12 you can also use microparts
L262[16:12:16] <Forecaster> in 1.12 that doesn't work currently
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L264[16:13:47] <Toothless the Dragon> Omg
L265[16:13:50] <Toothless the Dragon> you can dye monitors too
L266[16:13:58] <Forecaster> cases too
L267[16:14:07] <Forecaster> and disk drives I think
L268[16:14:33] <Toothless the Dragon> got damn, why did i know how this before
L269[16:16:05] <Toothless the Dragon> :D
L270[16:16:07] <Toothless the Dragon> http://tinyurl.com/y978c3aq
L271[16:30:29] <Toothless the Dragon> Ok, question, is there a way to disconnect remote terminals?
L272[16:32:17] <Forecaster> no
L273[16:32:53] <Forecaster> add a recipe that goes "remote terminal => remote terminal" to clear the meta data
L274[16:35:12] <Toothless the Dragon> Alright, got my final repeatable design
L275[16:35:14] <Toothless the Dragon> http://tinyurl.com/ybufjpcr
L276[16:36:37] <Lizzian> beware that RAIDs act as cables, meaning that the components will likely share across them all
L277[16:36:49] <Toothless the Dragon> if i dye it, will it not do that?
L278[16:37:04] <Toothless the Dragon> nevermind, it wont work
L279[16:37:28] <Kleadron> rip
L280[16:37:36] <Toothless the Dragon> well that is annoying.
L281[16:39:25] <Toothless the Dragon> anyone have any compact designs that use raid?
L282[16:40:28] <Lizzian> the only thing i could see working is leaving a 1-block gap or alternating the RAIDs between above and below and then moving the capacitors elsewhere
L283[16:42:28] <Toothless the Dragon> Hm
L284[16:42:32] <Toothless the Dragon> not all servers will use raid anyway
L285[16:43:06] <Toothless the Dragon> so i should change design to something like http://tinyurl.com/ybaz9hjn
L286[16:44:11] <Lizzian> that would work, but AFAIK capacitors also act like cables
L287[16:44:43] <Toothless the Dragon> AAAAAAA why do components do that
L288[16:45:08] <Kleadron> use capacitors in your network instead of cables to increase the power ? ?
L289[16:45:46] <Lizzian> you might be better putting Power Distributors in their place and then having a massive battery bank elsewhere (they also get more power storage when placed adjacent to each other and that also stacks by how much the neighbour capacitors have i think)
L290[16:46:35] <Toothless the Dragon> this is my backend design, 2 networks, once for inter-server communication, and one for public net http://tinyurl.com/y6uutbcl
L291[16:47:49] <Toothless the Dragon> but yeah, i guess i'll do capacitors on the whole power network
L292[16:47:51] <Toothless the Dragon> or just use cells
L293[16:48:42] <Lizzian> some time in the past i was gonna take a crack at making a "bundled cable" mod for OC cables that would work like the PRed bundled cable / AE2 multicables but that hasn't happened yet and my todo list of other stuff i need to do is quite long so learning how to mod and making one isn't likely to happen soon (by me, anyway)
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L295[16:49:20] <Toothless the Dragon> i want to learn how to make mods, but i have too many other projects going :(
L296[16:50:58] <Toothless the Dragon> anyway, got my new power design setup, i am just going to use thermal expansions cells and cables
L297[16:51:00] <Toothless the Dragon> the racks will go on top
L298[16:51:03] <Toothless the Dragon> http://tinyurl.com/y7ruvjur
L299[16:51:14] <Lizzian> that works too i guess
L300[16:51:34] <Kodos> What do you even plan to do with that many server racks
L301[16:51:46] <Toothless the Dragon> lots of things, hopefully...
L302[16:51:46] <Joco223> @Toothless the Dragon Why do you need so much storage and servers?
L303[16:51:59] <Toothless the Dragon> i am trying to program scalable databases
L304[16:52:01] <Toothless the Dragon> in OC
L305[16:52:07] <Toothless the Dragon> plus each one will do different things
L306[16:52:16] <Lizzian> though you might need to invest in a PD / power converter setup because they have a higher conversion rate than the single racks (though, if you share power between them i guess it'll be fine)
L307[16:52:25] <Joco223> Btw
L308[16:52:36] <Joco223> My suggestion is to not make them repeatable like that
L309[16:52:42] <Toothless the Dragon> I just need to find more people to use computers on my server lol
L310[16:52:46] <Joco223> Where are you going you pull cabled from
L311[16:52:51] <Toothless the Dragon> but the servers wil be for file share, power grid, databases, etc.
L312[16:53:10] <Toothless the Dragon> @Joco223 I don't understand the question, can you reword it?
L313[16:53:27] <Joco223> Nvm, you only have one server per rack
L314[16:54:11] <Toothless the Dragon> and running this many computers wont be an issue either lol, i put 24 threads available to run computers
L315[16:54:33] <Toothless the Dragon> May sound dumb, but i run the server on a threadripper 1920x
L316[16:54:34] <Lizzian> how many cpu cores do you have on the server that's hosting the world?
L317[16:54:39] <Lizzian> oh wow
L318[16:54:40] <Toothless the Dragon> 12c/24t
L319[16:55:11] <Toothless the Dragon> maybe one day i can buy the 2990wx ?
L320[16:55:14] <Lizzian> okay, you might wanna drop it to 20 (so if you have enough computers to saturate the threads it wont tank your entire system)
L321[16:55:29] <Toothless the Dragon> doubt i'll ever get enough people to do that anyway lo
L322[16:55:30] <Toothless the Dragon> doubt i'll ever get enough people to do that anyway lol [Edited]
L323[16:55:40] <Toothless the Dragon> but yeah, good idea
L324[16:55:49] <Lizzian> it's not so much the people, but the amount of active computers you have in the world
L325[16:56:06] <Toothless the Dragon> i want to heavily integrate computers into society somehow
L326[16:56:16] <Toothless the Dragon> my previous map, the power grid was handled by computers
L327[16:56:59] <Lizzian> If i had the time and patience, i could probably crank out a few good scripts for various stuff
L328[16:58:13] <AmandaC> %choose read or take over the multiverse to find a suitable wife
L329[16:58:13] <MichiBot> AmandaC: The proof is in the pudding. Definitely take over the multiverse to find a suitable wife.
L330[16:58:18] * AmandaC nods
L331[16:59:21] <Toothless the Dragon> Nice thing is, i use a private express server that all traffic is sent to from OC, and i modified the starter internet script to use the local domain, and by doing so i can change the domain whitelist without restarting server :D
L332[16:59:42] <Lizzian> err, i understood half of that
L333[16:59:54] <Joco223> Any interesting programs i can try and make in OC? Any ideas i mean?
L334[17:00:20] <Toothless the Dragon> The OC whitelist doesn't work properly all the time, for sending http reqeusts, so to fix that, i use a single domain whitelisted, edited it so all requests proxy through it
L335[17:00:45] <Lizzian> @Joco223 can't guarantee they'll be interesting, but have a look on the forums https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/forum/42-requests/
L336[17:01:09] <Joco223> Thanks
L337[17:01:33] <Toothless the Dragon> @Joco223 yeah, try making a scalable database, basically a basic-relational database that can expand its storage by simply adding more raid arrays
L338[17:01:40] <Toothless the Dragon> if you're up for a challenge lol
L339[17:03:08] <Joco223> I made a network accessible floppy disk raid if that counts :b
L340[17:03:39] <Toothless the Dragon> though i think scaling a DB over more computers with 1 raid each would be better
L341[17:03:43] <Toothless the Dragon> more cpu
L342[17:03:46] <Joco223> Right now supports 54MB but with some tweaks it can go up to 270MB
L343[17:04:22] <Joco223> I am not sure what do you mean a database that can expand its storage when adding more raids?
L344[17:04:41] <Toothless the Dragon> yeah, basically the idea is when it fills one raid array with data, you just simply add another one
L345[17:04:46] <Toothless the Dragon> and it automatically starts using it
L346[17:04:52] <Toothless the Dragon> thats the idea at least
L347[17:05:03] <Toothless the Dragon> i think sharding across more servers would be more practical
L348[17:05:03] <Joco223> And you could store files on it?
L349[17:05:08] <Toothless the Dragon> ye
L350[17:05:19] <Toothless the Dragon> well, more of a single table file
L351[17:05:26] <Toothless the Dragon> and somehow scans through it easily
L352[17:06:01] <Joco223> That is almost exactly what i am doing with floppy disks, when it fills up one ,it moves to another, and it can store as many files as you want as long as it has enough space to store it all
L353[17:06:28] <Toothless the Dragon> Hm
L354[17:06:36] <Joco223> Just using one server to control it tho
L355[17:06:50] <Joco223> But multiple can acess it
L356[17:06:54] <Joco223> But multiple can access it [Edited]
L357[17:16:43] *** MajGenRelativity_ is now known as MajGenRelativity
L358[17:19:29] <Toothless the Dragon> and so... the monster begins
L359[17:19:31] <Toothless the Dragon> http://tinyurl.com/y8pr8zmv
L360[17:19:53] <Joco223> What are those blocks between the racks?
L361[17:19:58] <Toothless the Dragon> Vents
L362[17:20:01] <Toothless the Dragon> from chisel
L363[17:20:04] <Toothless the Dragon> just decorative
L364[17:20:24] <Joco223> Ah, cool
L365[17:21:00] <Toothless the Dragon> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/toxivapuli
L366[17:21:13] <Joco223> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/259320398775189505/481030170602373141/2018-08-20_00.05.00.png A bit older pic, without the floppy raid and with shaders (i removed them)
L367[17:22:08] <Joco223> Not much :b
L368[17:22:24] <Toothless the Dragon> i wonder if the network bug with racks still exists :Thonk:
L369[17:22:30] <Joco223> which one?
L370[17:22:31] <Toothless the Dragon> where it will only receive 4 packets a second
L371[17:22:41] <Toothless the Dragon> basically racks are limited
L372[17:22:42] <Joco223> not sure
L373[17:22:45] <Toothless the Dragon> compared to normal
L374[17:22:56] <Toothless the Dragon> i'll test it shortly
L375[17:23:19] <Joco223> in my floppy raid i used tcp like connection with confirmation messages so there would be 2 sent + 2 confirmed ones per second
L376[17:23:23] <Joco223> So maybe
L377[17:23:39] <Joco223> That was rack -> rack
L378[17:24:21] <Toothless the Dragon> its possible to send on a specific modem right?
L379[17:24:24] <Toothless the Dragon> or
L380[17:24:25] <Toothless the Dragon> relay
L381[17:24:37] <Joco223> No i think?
L382[17:24:43] <Joco223> For relays idk
L383[17:24:52] <Joco223> but for modems you can have multiple ones in a server
L384[17:24:57] <Joco223> And open specific ports for each
L385[17:25:25] <MGR> You can control what modem you send from, and what modem you send to
L386[17:25:37] <Toothless the Dragon> hmm
L387[17:26:12] <Toothless the Dragon> now the joys of setting up 8 rackmount servers
L388[17:26:24] <Toothless the Dragon> I have a real rackmount server too :)
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L390[17:35:39] <Toothless the Dragon> http://tinyurl.com/yc68dr9w
L391[17:35:39] <Toothless the Dragon> good design?
L392[17:35:54] <Toothless the Dragon> or, good theme i guess
L393[17:38:02] <Toothless the Dragon> Good theme? [Edited]
L394[17:38:04] <Toothless the Dragon> http://tinyurl.com/ya63qgom
L395[17:48:57] <AmandaC> %tell Inari downside to Cross Ange -- I'm not sure if the song that's currently stuck in my head is from that or getting conflated from Symphogear
L396[17:48:58] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L397[17:49:30] <AmandaC> Anyway, that's enough computer for today, off to read more manga
L398[17:52:31] <Toothless the Dragon> OK FINAL DESIGN, promise
L399[17:52:34] <Toothless the Dragon> http://tinyurl.com/yafpbxwe
L400[17:52:35] <Toothless the Dragon> looks really nice
L401[18:12:15] <CompanionCube> achievement get: fill up /tmp by forgetting to close wireshark
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L438[18:13:14] <Kleadron> when you minding your buisness but then a net.split happens ? ?
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L452[18:22:47] <Toothless the Dragon> wow, whats with the sudden mass joining?
L453[18:23:02] <Toothless the Dragon> i am guessing the irc restarted or something
L454[18:23:34] <Michiyo> There was a netsplit, one of the IRC servers died, and dumped all of its users
L455[18:24:15] <Michiyo> so they rejoin on another. It gets REALLY spammy when one of the bigger servers drops for a second then rejoins you'll lose half the channel then they rejoin
L456[18:25:54] <Kleadron> press F to pay respects for the dead irc server
L457[18:25:56] <Kleadron> F
L458[18:33:32] <Toothless the Dragon> yep, network bug still exists, only getting 4 packets/second on racks
L459[18:37:27] <payonel> toothless. 4 packets/second on racks?
L460[18:37:35] <Toothless the Dragon> yes
L461[18:38:01] <payonel> same code works faster on boxes?
L462[18:38:57] <Toothless the Dragon> yep
L463[18:39:40] <payonel> if i spam os.time broadcast in a loop, will it repro?
L464[18:39:59] <Toothless the Dragon> ehhhh
L465[18:40:01] <Toothless the Dragon> dont think so
L466[18:40:04] <payonel> why not?
L467[18:40:05] <Toothless the Dragon> OC 1.7.2.67 on MC 1.12.2
L468[18:40:18] <Toothless the Dragon> how would that correlate with network events?
L469[18:40:58] <payonel> "packet"
L470[18:41:08] <payonel> are we not talking about network packets?
L471[18:41:16] <Toothless the Dragon> ohhh i am dumb, sorry, i read your sentence wrong
L472[18:41:24] <Toothless the Dragon> but basically, yeah
L473[18:41:33] <Toothless the Dragon> setup 1 normal computer to spam as much as possible
L474[18:41:41] <Toothless the Dragon> then setup another to listen packets on a rack
L475[18:41:45] <Toothless the Dragon> and you'll get 4 a second
L476[18:41:47] <Toothless the Dragon> no matter what
L477[18:41:53] <payonel> does it repro in reverse? rack->box?
L478[18:42:07] <Toothless the Dragon> Ye
L479[18:42:11] <Toothless the Dragon> it can only send or receive 4
L480[18:42:19] <payonel> and is it 4 or 5? :)
L481[18:42:23] <Toothless the Dragon> 4
L482[18:42:37] <Toothless the Dragon> http://tinyurl.com/yag5hswv
L483[18:42:37] <Toothless the Dragon> well 3 atm
L484[18:42:53] <payonel> ok, good to know
L485[18:43:02] <payonel> i've placed it in my mind to debug
L486[18:43:15] <Toothless the Dragon> i have some test code if you want it
L487[18:43:19] <Toothless the Dragon> to send and receive
L488[18:43:28] <payonel> oh i'm good
L489[18:48:11] <Toothless the Dragon> its definitely annoying, you'd expect "servers" to be able to handle more than normal computers, but its reverse :P
L490[18:49:20] <payonel> i'm surprised there is any difference
L491[18:49:31] <Toothless the Dragon> did you confirm it?
L492[18:49:40] <payonel> oh no, i'm at work currently
L493[18:49:46] <Toothless the Dragon> ahh
L494[18:49:55] <payonel> i've been mia for about a month, new laptop, still setting up my oc environment
L495[18:49:59] <payonel> i might poke at it tonight
L496[18:50:11] <payonel> i have a mountain of other bugs i should be working on though :)
L497[18:50:21] <payonel> but at least i fixed the jenkins builds
L498[18:50:34] <Toothless the Dragon> is it intentional to have raid blocks work like a cable?
L499[18:51:12] <payonel> i would say yes
L500[18:51:20] <payonel> our networks are simple in that regard
L501[18:51:26] <Michiyo> All components are cables, and it is intentional.
L502[18:51:42] <Toothless the Dragon> I would suggest ability to color any that have that behaviour
L503[18:53:23] <Toothless the Dragon> but at the same time, maybe i dont need compact datacenters :Thonk:
L504[18:54:29] <payonel> also, hi Michiyo o/
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L507[18:57:28] <Michiyo> \o
L508[19:00:36] <Toothless the Dragon> With a normal computer, i can handle 80 packets a second
L509[19:02:16] <payonel> Michiyo: asie updated some code in 1.12, using java 1.8 syntax and updates our build config for it
L510[19:02:46] <payonel> it broke my ability to compile the project in intellij :P finally figured out how to support the new java version while still building scala
L511[19:03:02] <payonel> i hate how it's like we have two separate build environments
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L513[19:17:22] <Toothless the Dragon> One thing i'd like to be able to do, is send on a specific relay
L514[19:17:44] <Toothless the Dragon> unless i am unable to already, but something like modem.setRelay(relayProxy), modem.broadcast ... etc.
L515[19:17:52] <Toothless the Dragon> then setRelay(nil) for all
L516[20:23:23] <Z0idburg> The solution @Toothless the Dragon is to not spam
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L518[21:27:27] <Z0idburg> Ok guys. Should I get a wind up cuckoo clock or a wind up grandfather clock for our house?
L519[21:27:29] <Z0idburg> and why
L520[21:27:47] <Z0idburg> curious why one or the other
L521[21:27:57] <Z0idburg> one over the other*
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