L1[00:12:02] <payonel> i'm having issues
building oc on a new machine, on the old it builds fine. i get a
warning: "bootstrap class path not set in conjunction with
-source 1.6", and then i get some classpath like errors during
compile
L2[00:12:10] <payonel> does anyone know
anything about this type of issue?
L3[00:14:33] <Mimiru> The warning is
"normal"
L4[00:14:48] <payonel> so unrelated to my
crappy classpath errors?
L5[00:15:14] <Mimiru> In theory
L6[00:15:17] <Mimiru> pastebin 'em
L7[00:15:24] <Izaya> -source 1.6 is telling
you to play some Counter Strike
L8[00:15:25] * Izaya
nods
L9[00:15:39] <payonel> the first of many
errors is error: package org.apache.commons.lang3.tuple does not
exist
L10[00:15:39] <payonel> import
org.apache.commons.lang3.tuple.Pair;
L11[00:15:56] <payonel> i can
pastebin...just have to scrub my personal info :)
L12[00:15:59] <Mimiru> sounds like
scala
L13[00:16:00] <Mimiru> :P
L14[00:16:18] <payonel> yeah, scala but
..
L15[00:16:29] <payonel> i thought maven
would install stuff i needed ?
L16[00:16:37] *
payonel shrugs ignorantly
L17[00:16:41] <Mimiru> maybe.. I've not
built OC on this PC
L18[00:16:44] <Mimiru> which branch?
L19[00:16:52] <payonel> 1.10
L20[00:16:57] <payonel> i'm trying to clean
up all the branches
L21[00:17:15] <Mimiru> matser-1.10?
L22[00:17:18] <Mimiru> master even
L23[00:17:25] <payonel> 1.7.10 builds
fine
L24[00:17:51] <Mimiru> Yeah, which is why I
specified master-1.10
L25[00:18:27] <payonel> forgive me, 1-10 vs
master-1.10, what's the difference of concern?
L26[00:18:43] <payonel> yeah, there are
other non-master branches but...not of relevance
L27[00:18:52] <payonel> though, maybe you
thought "all" meant all :)
L28[00:18:56] <payonel> but no, just the 4
masters
L29[00:19:10] <Mimiru> Was just confirming
I was checking out the right branch
L30[00:19:14] <payonel> i see
L31[00:20:30] <payonel> i've not uploaded
my local maven fixes to oc's maven
L32[00:20:36] <payonel> just fyi
L33[00:22:26] <Mimiru> I spent the better
part of yesterday, and today adding bluetooth to a stock stereo.
Adding the bluetooth wasn't too hard.. getting it to turn on when
the radio came on was a pain though
L34[00:26:19] <payonel> Mimiru: fixed
it
L35[00:26:35] <payonel> solution: not be a
moron
L36[00:26:36] <payonel> :)
L37[00:26:51] <payonel> this machine is a
new install of ubuntu
L38[00:26:57] <payonel> moved a bunch of
files over from the old system
L39[00:27:04] <payonel> forgot to rerun
setupDecompWorkspace
L40[00:27:09] <payonel> did that, builds
fine
L41[00:27:18] <Mimiru> lmao nice yeah I'm
stuck on that right now
L42[00:27:38] <Mimiru> "Applying
Exceptor"
L43[00:27:49] <payonel> to be fair, i'm not
a moron, i think that was a reasonable thing to look over
L44[00:52:38] <Mimiru> \o/ last week
without my family.. I'm super excited to see my girls again
:D
L45[00:52:46] <Mimiru> I should go to
bed... :/
L46[00:53:40] 
<Kleadron>
what time is it for you
<Kleadron>
what time is it for youL47[00:53:47] <Mimiru> Almost 11pm
L48[00:53:54] <Kleadron>
wow same timezone
<Kleadron>
wow same timezoneL49[00:54:24] <Mimiru> lol
L50[00:54:41] <Kleadron>
If you are a normal human that does normal human things and has a
life and has things to do, you should probably go to bed
<Kleadron>
If you are a normal human that does normal human things and has a
life and has things to do, you should probably go to bedL51[00:54:57] <Kleadron>
especialy on week days
<Kleadron>
especialy on week daysL52[00:54:59] <Mimiru> yeah, sadly I work
8:30 to 5
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L54[01:11:30] <Kodos>
Either I am inept, or Google is being useless, but I can't find
where the hell the end date/time is for the freefly on SC
<Kodos>
Either I am inept, or Google is being useless, but I can't find
where the hell the end date/time is for the freefly on SCL55[01:19:48] <Izaya> Or a third
option.
L56[01:20:06] <Izaya> It's permenant but
they don't want to piss off the people that blew thousands of
dollars on virtual space ships :^)
L57[01:28:17] <Forecaster>
but people can't get mad on the internet
<Forecaster>
but people can't get mad on the internetL58[01:31:16] <Forecaster>
@Kodos from what I can tell it's one of their "Free Fly
weekends"
<Forecaster>
@Kodos from what I can tell it's one of their "Free Fly
weekends"L59[01:32:12] <Forecaster>
it ends today
<Forecaster>
it ends todayL60[01:32:22] <Kodos> Yeah
but like what time
<Kodos> Yeah
but like what timeL61[01:32:26] <Forecaster>
it was part of a gamescom promotion
<Forecaster>
it was part of a gamescom promotionL62[01:32:41] <Kodos> I
got as far as 'today' too
<Kodos> I
got as far as 'today' tooL63[01:32:42] <Forecaster>
it doesn't say
<Forecaster>
it doesn't sayL64[01:32:45] <Kodos>
Exactly
<Kodos>
ExactlyL65[01:32:52] <Kodos>
Fucking ridiculous
<Kodos>
Fucking ridiculousL66[01:32:55] <Kodos> How
fucking hard is it to list a fucking time
<Kodos> How
fucking hard is it to list a fucking timeL67[01:32:58] <Forecaster>
it just says `Try Star Citizen for FREE (August 24-27,
2018)!`
<Forecaster>
it just says `Try Star Citizen for FREE (August 24-27,
2018)!`L68[01:33:04] <Forecaster>
presumably midnight or something
<Forecaster>
presumably midnight or somethingL69[01:34:36] <asie> no, it will almost
definitely work
L70[01:34:40] <asie> ga
L71[01:34:43] <asie> i was scrolled up
again
L72[01:36:07] <Forecaster>
how embarrassing :P
<Forecaster>
how embarrassing :PL73[01:36:09] <Forecaster>
%loot
<Forecaster>
%lootL74[01:36:10] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains a power adapter incompatible with
everything.
L75[01:44:34] <Kodos>
%loot
<Kodos>
%lootL76[01:44:34] <MichiBot> Kodos: You get a
loot box! It contains a doorknob.
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L83[05:24:47] <Lizzian>
%loot
<Lizzian>
%lootL84[05:24:47] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You get a
loot box! It contains a Magic ker-chunker! (25%)
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L86[06:22:49] <Mettaton_Fab> %loot
<Mettaton_Fab> %lootL87[06:22:49] <MichiBot> Mettaton_Fab: You
get a loot box! It contains a Shiny lego piece! (10%)
L88[06:33:02] <Inari> css can be such a
pain at times
L89[06:34:25] <Forecaster>
so can lego!
<Forecaster>
so can lego!L90[06:40:22] <Forecaster>
"We use smaller child parts that get welded
together"
<Forecaster>
"We use smaller child parts that get welded
together"L91[06:40:27] <Forecaster>
what a way to start a sentence...
<Forecaster>
what a way to start a sentence...L93[06:42:36] <AmandaC> doesn't sound that
bad
L94[06:42:43] <AmandaC> If it was
"smaller children parts" it'd be bad
L95[06:44:07] <Forecaster>
not when you keep reading, but at first it sounded very wrong
:P
<Forecaster>
not when you keep reading, but at first it sounded very wrong
:PL96[06:44:55] <AmandaC> vOv
L97[06:45:25] <Forecaster>
I don't know what that's supposed to be
<Forecaster>
I don't know what that's supposed to beL98[06:45:35] <AmandaC> poor-womans
%actualshrug output
L99[06:45:44] <Forecaster>
ah
<Forecaster>
ahL100[06:46:21] <AmandaC> I have neither
the inclination nor patience to learn the unicode one, and I saw
vOv which is close enough for me
L101[06:47:36] <AmandaC> I could use ?♀️
but then some people in here would be snarky
L102[06:47:58] <Vexatos> I have an emoji
IME
L103[06:48:03] <Vexatos> beat that
L104[06:48:16] <AmandaC> Vexatos: I have
one too, now! uniemoji?
L105[06:48:43] <Forecaster>
why not just use the command?
<Forecaster>
why not just use the command?L106[06:48:43] <Vexatos> of course
L107[06:48:48] <Forecaster>
:P
<Forecaster>
:PL108[06:49:03] <AmandaC> @Forecaster
because that only works in here, and I have to shrug elsewhere as
well
L109[06:49:18] <Forecaster>
add it to your client?
<Forecaster>
add it to your client?L110[06:49:36] <Vexatos> I have a mizuochi
Greek IME, an IPA IME, uniemoji, mozc, and my normal keyboard
,-,
L111[06:49:42] <Vexatos> ibus is pretty
nice ,-,
L112[06:49:58] <Forecaster>
I'm pretty sure I made my irssi instance replace : shrug : with the
correct characters
<Forecaster>
I'm pretty sure I made my irssi instance replace : shrug : with the
correct charactersL113[06:50:03] <Vexatos> I just ctrl+, to
switch through them :U
L114[06:50:11] <Vexatos> s?
L115[06:50:43] <Forecaster>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L116[06:50:46] <Forecaster> yep
L117[06:51:31] <Vexatos> A display of
extreme and intense indifference
L118[06:51:43] <AmandaC> Vexatos: it's
super+space for me
L119[06:52:00] <Vexatos> it's numpad , for
me so literally right next to my mouse
L120[06:52:13] <Vexatos> I basically press
it on the way to moving my hand to the kb :P
L121[06:52:33] <Vexatos> On my laptop it's
also super+space
L122[06:54:44] <Forecaster> %addcommand
neutral https://i.imgur.com/Jt71lM6.png
L123[06:54:44] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
Command Added
L124[06:55:09] <Forecaster> %addcommand
ash {actualshrug}
L125[06:55:09] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
Command Added
L126[06:55:12] <Forecaster> %ash
L127[06:55:16] <Forecaster> hm
L128[06:56:11] <Forecaster> %delcommand
ash
L129[06:56:11] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
Command deleted
L130[06:56:20] <Forecaster> %addcommand
ash %actualshrug%
L131[06:56:20] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
Command Added
L132[06:56:23] <Forecaster> %ash
L133[06:56:23] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L134[07:10:00] <AmandaC> Isn't there a
proper way to add dynamic aliases?
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L138[07:36:31] <asie> lunatic86 0.2.0 will
probably come out soon
L139[07:36:42] <asie> brings a total of
~+5% speed boost, and fixed DAA opcode emulation (not that anything
uses it)
L140[07:37:27] <asie> many of these
optimizations trickled in from the C port of it i'm developing,
heh
L141[07:37:31] <asie> C has better debug
tools
L142[07:38:55] <Vexatos> better than
Lua?
L143[07:38:56] <Vexatos> lies
L144[07:39:03] <Vexatos> Lua is the
debuggablest of all languages
L145[07:40:21] <asie> yes
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L147[08:06:32] <Forecaster>
Amanda what do you mean proper way?
<Forecaster>
Amanda what do you mean proper way?L148[08:13:28] <AmandaC> I thought there
was a way to add dynamic aliases other than just making one dynamic
import another
L149[08:13:40] <Forecaster>
no
<Forecaster>
noL150[08:17:14] <Inari> %loot
L151[08:17:14] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a
loot box! It contains a half-eaten fortune cookie.
L152[08:17:22] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L153[08:17:22] *
MichiBot brushes AmandaC with demonic laptop. 11 health
gained!
L154[08:20:57] <Forecaster>
I added that specifically because there wasn't a way to do aliases
before that
<Forecaster>
I added that specifically because there wasn't a way to do aliases
before thatL155[08:26:40] <AmandaC> IDK, I'm pretty
scatterbrained today, maybe I dreamt it
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L157[08:28:04] <AmandaC> For a second I
thought vex's host included the DVD master key, then I saw the ISP
part
L158[08:28:25] <AmandaC> Or was it
Blu-ray
L159[08:28:52] <Inari> %inv add pineapple
nut cake
L160[08:28:52] *
MichiBot summons 'pineapple nut cake' and adds to her inventory.
This seems very sturdy.
L161[08:35:52] <Lizzian>
%loot
<Lizzian>
%lootL162[08:35:52] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You get
a loot box! It contains a brick.
L163[08:36:06] <Lizzian>
pfft, not even a health and safety brick
<Lizzian>
pfft, not even a health and safety brickL164[08:36:35] <AmandaC> health and safety
brick?
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L168[08:52:34] <Lizzian>
yes, a standard brick wrapped in bubble wrap to make it safe
<Lizzian>
yes, a standard brick wrapped in bubble wrap to make it safeL169[08:53:10] <Corded> * <Lizzian>
wonders if she still has a picture of one
L170[08:53:17] <Izaya> still an excellent
universal key
L171[08:53:47] <AmandaC> I wonder if the
MAFIAA is still trying to sue it off the internet
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L174[08:58:36] <Izaya> that's how you ship
a brick
L176[09:05:07] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Hazard Symbol Posted on: 8/27/2018
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L179[09:29:53] <Forecaster>
wow
<Forecaster>
wowL180[09:30:10] <AmandaC> %choose watch or
listen
L181[09:30:10] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
Somebody once told me to roll with watch
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L183[12:10:50] <Michiyo> %test
L184[12:10:51] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
Success
L185[12:11:40] <Michiyo> aaaand
timewarp
L186[12:12:25] <Alex404>
Hi! i've checked the issue tracker on github and I've read about
the broken Gregtech support in 1.12.2. I know that effectively the
mod gregtech is a remake, so I guess It would require to work about
energy compatibility again and not simply updating It, but I've
read about the request to "fix" GT recipes too. I'm
working on it, but I don't know how to make a PR, Can I simply post
here a TXT with those fixed recipes?
<Alex404>
Hi! i've checked the issue tracker on github and I've read about
the broken Gregtech support in 1.12.2. I know that effectively the
mod gregtech is a remake, so I guess It would require to work about
energy compatibility again and not simply updating It, but I've
read about the request to "fix" GT recipes too. I'm
working on it, but I don't know how to make a PR, Can I simply post
here a TXT with those fixed recipes?L187[12:13:25] <Alex404> If
those are needed, of course. Maybe the issue is not up to
date
<Alex404> If
those are needed, of course. Maybe the issue is not up to
dateL188[12:13:39] <Michiyo> on github make a
fork of the repo, make your changes, then you'll have the option to
open a pull request with those changes back to the main OC
repo
L189[12:14:51] <Alex404>
Yeah thats like a lot of thing I don't know about and need to study
for
<Alex404>
Yeah thats like a lot of thing I don't know about and need to study
forL190[12:15:12] <Michiyo> ...
L191[12:15:50] <Alex404>
I'm not a programmer ora modder, sorry ^_^
<Alex404>
I'm not a programmer ora modder, sorry ^_^L192[12:16:37] <Alex404>
Will try
<Alex404>
Will tryL193[12:16:58] <Inari> GitHub makes it
pretty easy even
L194[12:18:06] <Forecaster>
Just search for a how-to
<Forecaster>
Just search for a how-toL195[12:20:12] <Forecaster>
And michiyo stop messing with the time stream D:
<Forecaster>
And michiyo stop messing with the time stream D:L196[12:22:46] <Michiyo> https://michi.pc-logix.com/hexchat_2018-08-27_12-22-41.png
L197[12:23:12] <Inari> Witch!
L198[12:23:30] <Michiyo> Well, yes... but
that has nothing to do with this.
L199[12:24:33] <Inari> Psh
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L210[14:39:51] <Forecaster>
%loot
<Forecaster>
%lootL211[14:39:51] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains an impossible geometric shape.
L212[14:45:45] <Kleadron>
nothing is impossible
<Kleadron>
nothing is impossibleL213[14:50:22] <Inari> %loot
L214[14:50:23] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a
loot box! It contains a tiny fork.
L215[14:50:24] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L216[14:50:24] *
MichiBot brushes AmandaC with a ball of gnomes. 5 health
gained!
L217[14:52:52] <Michiyo> %loo
L218[14:52:54] <Michiyo> ._.
L219[14:52:56] <Michiyo> %loot
L220[14:52:56] <MichiBot> Michiyo: You get
a loot box! It contains attempt to index nil value.
L221[14:53:09] <Kleadron>
%loo
<Kleadron>
%looL222[14:53:09] <Kleadron>
"you have taken a dump"
<Kleadron>
"you have taken a dump"L223[14:53:25] *
Michiyo sighs
L224[14:53:41] <Kleadron>
%loot
<Kleadron>
%lootL225[14:53:41] <MichiBot> Kleadron: You
get a loot box! It contains a Magic noot! (25%)
L226[14:53:49] <Kleadron>
the best noot
<Kleadron>
the best nootL227[15:02:11] <AmandaC> %choose computer
or not so computer
L228[15:02:11] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
Elementary dear Watson, computer is the obvious choice!
L229[15:16:47] *
AmandaC installs Elementary on WATSON
L230[15:16:58] *
AmandaC gets chased out of the IBM datacentre
L231[15:18:43] <AmandaC> %choose watch or
read
L232[15:18:43] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I sense
some read in your future!
L233[15:30:33] <ba7888b72413a16b> The
instructions must be ended with three semicolons (;;;). This a)
adds clarity to where it ends, b) beats OCaml by 1 and c) makes
your ; key weathered over time, so it will look like you work a
lot.
L234[15:30:57] <ba7888b72413a16b> https://github.com/joaomilho/Enterprise
L235[15:36:42] <Forecaster>
Enterprise dear Watson
<Forecaster>
Enterprise dear WatsonL236[15:38:31] <Inari> Meh
L237[15:38:35] <Inari> Tweetdeck is
annoying at times
L238[15:40:03] <Forecaster>
you need Silencedeck
<Forecaster>
you need SilencedeckL239[15:40:08] <Michiyo> Hmmm...
Enterprise seems neat.. :P
L240[15:40:13] <Forecaster>
(that's not an actual thing to my knowledge)
<Forecaster>
(that's not an actual thing to my knowledge)L241[15:40:34] <Inari> I need a
temiadeck
L242[15:54:48] <AmandaC> s/deck/dex/
L243[15:54:49] <MichiBot> <Inari> I
need a temiadex
L244[15:54:55] <AmandaC> Gotta catch all
the temias!
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L246[16:59:43] *
Inari throws a pokeball at Temia
L247[17:08:55] <payonel> all OC branches
on jenkins are building again
L248[17:08:57] <AmandaC> *temieball
L249[17:09:23] <payonel> and our maven
dependencies are now fully hosted on our own maven repo
L250[17:09:24] <AmandaC> hrm
L251[17:09:38] <payonel> s/our maven
dep/our dep/
L252[17:09:38] <MichiBot> <payonel>
and our dependencies are now fully hosted on our own maven
repo
L253[17:09:50] <payonel> so you can now
easily clone and build any branch
L254[17:10:11] <AmandaC> Apparently lots
of people are having good luck with playing nms under Linux with
the steam play
L255[17:10:53] <AmandaC> I'll have to look
and see if I'm missing some others part of vulkan that's preventing
3d rendering from working
L256[17:10:58] *
Temia is plonked over the head with a somethingball in quantum
superposition.
L257[17:10:59] <Temia> Ow.
L258[17:11:19] *
Temia is neither a pokémon nor a temmie so she just picks it up and
drops it into the dustbin
L259[17:11:27] <Inari> :<
L260[17:11:44] <baschdel> %choose add more
workspaces or 20 workspaces is enought
L261[17:11:44] <MichiBot> baschdel: My
grandfather always told me that 20 workspaces is enought is the way
to go!
L262[17:12:00] *
AmandaC bats playfully at Temia 's horns
L263[17:12:07] <Inari> %chhose pie or
cake
L264[17:12:08] <Kleadron>
The dustbin turns out to be a interdimensional warp machine and the
pokeball goes into another universe
<Kleadron>
The dustbin turns out to be a interdimensional warp machine and the
pokeball goes into another universeL265[17:12:16] <Inari> %choose pie or
cake
L266[17:12:16] <MichiBot> Inari: I've
heard cake is in these days
L267[17:12:21] <AmandaC> %choose read more
or try and figure out why 3d is broken
L268[17:12:22] <MichiBot> AmandaC: I spy
with my robotic eye something beginning with try and figure out why
3d is broken!
L269[17:12:29] <AmandaC> Okay
L270[17:12:38] <Inari> 3d?
L271[17:13:03] *
Temia patpats Amanda
L272[17:13:12] <Temia> %choose cake or
death
L273[17:13:12] <MichiBot> Temia: You'll
want to go with cake.
L274[17:17:24] <AmandaC> Inari: 2d
overlays such as the HUD render, 3d scenes don't
L275[17:20:14] <Inari> In what?
L276[17:25:19] <AmandaC> games using the
Steam PLay windows compat
L277[17:29:16] *
AmandaC discovers https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/blob/proton_3.7/PREREQS.md
-- follows it's AMD/Intel instructions
L278[17:37:40] <baschdel> Temia: Are you
playing portal? :D
L279[17:41:37] <Kleadron>
portal is gud game
<Kleadron>
portal is gud gameL280[17:42:28] <Temia> Portal? No.
L281[17:42:35] <Temia> I was referencing
Eddie Izzard.
L282[17:48:33] <baschdel> in any case you
should go with cake ... keeps you alife a little bit longer
L283[17:49:18] <AmandaC> Welp, the vulkan
gods are still angry, and I have no more energy, oh well
L284[17:49:37] <AmandaC> back to reading
Hundred
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L296[18:37:47] <Dudblockman> Wait.
<Dudblockman> Wait.L297[18:37:54] <Dudblockman> I feel dumb now.
<Dudblockman> I feel dumb now.L298[18:38:26] <Dudblockman> Overlooked the fact that
EEPROM has a data sector
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L305[19:16:31] <AmandaC> %choose clockwork
planet or other
L306[19:16:31] <MichiBot> AmandaC: You'll
want to go with clockwork planet.
L307[19:16:37] <AmandaC> I agree
L308[19:24:17] <AmandaC> Damm
L309[19:24:51] <AmandaC> I might wait for
the rest of volume 7 to get scannlated before reading more. That
was to quick
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L314[20:04:38] <Ragtag> this operating
system is amazing
L315[20:05:11] <Ragtag> that ide is a
godsend, though i think external and pastebin still wins
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L317[20:05:31] <Ragtag> hey
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L319[20:10:55] <Izaya> I'm still not sure
why people lose their shit over IDEs for Lua. It's not like you can
use an external debugger and beyond syntax checking I'm not sure
what more you could do.
L320[20:17:59] <AmandaC> Tab completion
can be a gods send for some projects
L321[20:19:13] <AmandaC> That said, most
of my Lua projects don't make it to that point, but I'm sure that's
just because I've got more experience with it. For a newer user
it's more helpful for wxploration
L322[20:19:34] <Izaya> That's a fair
point
L323[20:19:41] <AmandaC>
Exploration*
L324[20:19:51] <Izaya> I always found that
more annoying than helpful but few people agree with me on most
things
L325[20:20:15] <AmandaC> Depends how it's
implemented
L326[20:20:36] <AmandaC> Vim / emacs
shoehorning of it in is abysmal
L327[20:21:15] <Izaya> My experience of it
is with NP++ and Visual Molasses
L328[20:21:35] <Izaya> I didn't find
either implementation particularly pleasant
L329[20:21:36] <AmandaC> Vscode's is
pretty good, depending on the language
L330[20:22:03] <Izaya> obligatory
>running a web browser to edit text
L331[20:22:20] <AmandaC> Meh, at least
it's not an entire os
L332[20:22:28] <AmandaC> (emacs)
L333[20:22:43] <Izaya> What's the story
with vscode and normal visual studio anyway?
L334[20:23:27] <AmandaC> Vscode is pretty
much a totally separate project just using the visual studio brand
for marketing, afaik
L335[20:24:33] <AmandaC> Like, it's Linux
binary is /usr/bin/code
L336[20:25:24] <AmandaC> Mac too, though
under the .app bundle
L337[20:40:03] <Izaya> ba7888b72413a16b:
unrelated, but you were doing a ring network with minitel
right?
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L340[20:55:33] <ba7888b72413a16b> Izaya:
was screwing around with it in creative mode
L341[20:55:56] <ba7888b72413a16b> I was
gonna make it so messages are only passed one direction around the
loop
L342[20:56:13] <ba7888b72413a16b> for no
good reason other than to have cool looking blinking lights
L343[20:56:40] *
Izaya nods
L344[20:56:45] <Izaya> Well, static routes
are an option
L345[20:56:59] <Izaya> you mentioned
patching but there's already a way to set static routes
L346[20:57:30] <ba7888b72413a16b> but only
for specific destinations, right?
L347[20:58:00] <Izaya> right
L348[20:58:05] <Izaya> okay fair
point
L349[20:58:31] <Izaya> Perhaps it'd be
worthwhile to add a whitelist of network cards to use.
L350[20:59:11] <ba7888b72413a16b> I was
thinking of just completely extending minitel
L351[20:59:26] <ba7888b72413a16b> on the
rationale that "Network status packets" are already part
of the spec :P
L352[20:59:36] <ba7888b72413a16b> some
sort of traceroute protocol
L353[20:59:59] <Izaya> an interesting
idea
L354[21:00:23] <ba7888b72413a16b> the way
I thought of implementing it can be described as
"poorly"
L355[21:00:51] <ba7888b72413a16b> each
node would use this protocol to get a list of every single hostname
available to route through a network interface
L356[21:01:45] <ba7888b72413a16b> that way
there would be no guessing how to route a particular packet, and no
route cache other than the stored results of regular
traceroutes
L357[21:01:47] <Izaya> That'd be
"fun" on large networks
L358[21:03:15] <ba7888b72413a16b> see, I
don't want to recreate hierarchical ipv4/6 addresses in
minecraft
L359[21:03:25] <ba7888b72413a16b> but I
also don't want the effort of reading through the cjdns spec
L360[21:03:33] <ba7888b72413a16b> and
understanding how it would map to OC
L361[21:03:50] <Izaya> classy
networking?
L362[21:03:54] <ba7888b72413a16b> a dumb
mesh-net would be the tradeoff here
L363[21:04:39] <Izaya> also cjdns would
probably map fairly well to OC
L364[21:04:41] *
Izaya hmms
L365[21:04:49] <ba7888b72413a16b>
yeah
L366[21:05:09] <ba7888b72413a16b> the spec
is way way over my head though
L367[21:05:24] <ba7888b72413a16b> When a
packet comes in to the switch, the switch uses its Encoding Scheme
to read the least significant bits of the Route Label in order to
determine the Director and thus the Interface to send the packet
down. The Route Label is shifted to the right by the number of bits
in the Director, effectively removing the Director and exposing the
Director belonging to the next switch in the path. Before
sending
L368[21:05:27] <ba7888b72413a16b> the
packet, the switch uses its Encoding Scheme to craft a Director
representing the Interface which the packet came from, does a
bitwise reversal of this Director and places it in the empty space
at the left of the Route Label which was exposed by the previous
bit shift. In this way, the switches build a mirror image of the
return Label allowing the endpoint, or any hop along the path, to
derive the
L369[21:05:29] <ba7888b72413a16b> return
path by simple bitwise reversal without any knowledge of the
Encoding Schemes used by other nodes.
L370[21:05:35] <ba7888b72413a16b> it does
what??
L371[21:06:37] <Izaya> things
L372[21:06:59] <Izaya> I suspect you'd
have to read over the whole thing several times to get a handle on
it
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L374[21:38:22] <ba7888b72413a16b> Izaya:
yeah
L375[21:38:52] <ba7888b72413a16b>
distributed protocols are so complicated to understand because
there's state going on on every single node
L376[21:39:19] <ba7888b72413a16b> I think
I could probably tackle a simple version of tor or bitcoin
L377[21:39:56] <ba7888b72413a16b> anything
more complicated idk how much I would be able to understand without
extensive research
L378[21:54:07] <vifino> man, i love the
laser cutter at my hackerspace.
L379[21:54:44] <vifino> built an enclosure
for a programmable step down and a 48V power supply with it.
L380[21:54:54] <vifino> looks awesome,
smells awesome, feels awesome.
L381[22:12:10] <S3> How to fix ID-10T
error?
L382[22:12:34] <Izaya> S3: apply lighter
to hair
L383[22:20:50] <S3> oh
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L386[23:56:18] <Kodos>
%loot
<Kodos>
%lootL387[23:56:18] <MichiBot> Kodos: You get a
loot box! It contains a broken .7z.